Speaker 1: Hi everyone, Tony here with some bonus audio. Some of
Speaker 1: you might have seen that on Video Villa's podcast. Last week,
Speaker 1: I did Death Wish Too with Logan. That's right, Boys
Speaker 1: Month is expanding to other channels now, So yeah, me
Speaker 1: and Logan did Death Wish Too, and you should go
Speaker 1: and you should listen to that episode. But if you
Speaker 1: never heard video Villa before, I decided to upload the
Speaker 1: review we did for The Edge, which is very manly.
Speaker 1: It has Anthony Hopkins and Alec Baldwin in the wilderness
Speaker 1: fighting bears and stuff. It's pretty awesome. Probably my favorite
Speaker 1: survival thriller of all time. So yeah, this is a
Speaker 1: Boys Month bonus. Listen to this older episode I did
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Speaker 1: to that Death Wish Too episode.
Speaker 2: It's a good one. All right, on with the show.
Speaker 3: You're listening to episode sixty seven The Edge, directed by
Speaker 3: Lee Toma Horri. In today's episode, we're gonna ask can
Speaker 3: one man do really what another can do? On today's
Speaker 3: episode Video Villa Podcast, Welcome back to the channel, everybody.
Speaker 3: Today you are talking about the Edge and we have
Speaker 3: a special guest. Introduce yourself. Mister Tony.
Speaker 1: I am Tony from Hack the Movies, and I am
Speaker 1: excited to talk about the Edge.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Anthony Hopkins, dude.
Speaker 3: This movie rules. This movie is so freaking good.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny. I've only seen this movie like
Speaker 2: a handful of times, and it's so good that it
Speaker 2: sticks with me. I think about this movie a lot.
Speaker 3: This movie. Okay, so it's fun because this movie is
Speaker 3: right up there with another movie that y'all just did
Speaker 3: with movie Dumpster and his Ghost of the Darkness. Yes,
Speaker 3: this is my up there these this I watched this
Speaker 3: movie with my mom when I was little. Same thing
Speaker 3: I watched Ghost in the Darkness with my mom when
Speaker 3: I was little. And ever since I saw those two movies,
Speaker 3: I'm like, these movies are incredible.
Speaker 1: I remember seeing a preview for this on like a tape,
Speaker 1: and then my grandfather rented it like right when it
Speaker 1: came out, and we all watched it together and we
Speaker 1: were like, this is all I think.
Speaker 2: At this time? What is this? Ninety ninety seven? Ninety seven?
Speaker 2: All right, so i'd done some care.
Speaker 1: This is right before I did, like boy Scouts, I
Speaker 1: would end up Becoming a Boy scout afterwards, probably because
Speaker 1: I liked this movie, but I liked like camping and
Speaker 1: everything and like being in the woods, so this was
Speaker 1: cool to see. I'm like, oh, wow, in the woods
Speaker 1: and they're fighting bears, and it's like, what would I
Speaker 1: do if I was out there?
Speaker 2: It's it's awesome. It's awesome.
Speaker 3: This movie is so good. If you haven't seen it, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if everyone out there has seen this movie,
Speaker 3: but if you haven't seen it, good God, do yourself
Speaker 3: a favor and watch it and come back to this
Speaker 3: review because this movie I love.
Speaker 2: You don't want to lose retention. Keep this review playing
Speaker 2: on mute.
Speaker 1: There you go, and then watch it and then come
Speaker 1: back like time right when you stopped watching, and come back,
Speaker 1: come on exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: It's it's one of those movies.
Speaker 3: Were like, also The Rewatch because it is one of
Speaker 3: those animal survival movies. I think at this time, like
Speaker 3: was it Born to Be Wild? The documentary movie with
Speaker 3: the family that was based on a true story. Who
Speaker 3: did the Super eight films of the animals? I think
Speaker 3: one of the one of the kid from the Lawrence Kid.
Speaker 2: Oh no, not Born to Be wild that. I know
Speaker 2: what you're talking about. Is it?
Speaker 3: It's something wild in it?
Speaker 2: Right, yo? God, give me one second. Wor to be Wild?
Speaker 1: I think is a movie where a kid becomes friends
Speaker 1: with a gorilla. I know what movie you're talking about,
Speaker 1: this one, Jonathan Taylor, Tom, Yeah, hold on, give me
Speaker 1: one second.
Speaker 2: I will find it. I will find it for you.
Speaker 1: Wild America, Wild America, Wild America with Devin so Yes yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and uh Scott Byerstow Yes, that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was another one of those movies were like
Speaker 3: you just like there's something about videotaping real animals that
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's like a car crash to me.
Speaker 3: I love fucking car crashes. I love movies with car
Speaker 3: crashes in them. Yeah, I get excited.
Speaker 2: Uh you get a plane crash in this one? Fucked.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, dude, that scene alone is worth the
Speaker 3: price of a mission right there. This movie just like
Speaker 3: it stuck with me ever since I was little and
Speaker 3: I watched it. It was just like one of those movies.
Speaker 3: Was just like it was burned in my brain and
Speaker 3: I remember you did old like I think, like a
Speaker 3: like a haul like I think you went. It was
Speaker 3: on the Patreon or something like that, and you like
Speaker 3: you went to your local thrift store.
Speaker 2: Yeah, The Edge.
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, someone else has seen this movie.
Speaker 3: And then I brought it up to you and you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: I fucking love that movie.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: And I remember when years ago and lean Neeson's The
Speaker 1: Gray came out great. I saw that because it reminded
Speaker 1: me a lot of The Edge. I like The Edge more,
Speaker 1: but I remember seeing that because I'm like, wait, a
Speaker 1: plane crash, animals tracking.
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is basically the Edge again. I'm on
Speaker 2: board with Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: This movie is It's It's one of those things where
Speaker 3: like this is that time of like thrillers were the shit. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like like like I mean, we were stepping back from
Speaker 3: horror and really focusing on thrillers. You know, you've got
Speaker 3: breakdown with like cart.
Speaker 2: Russell and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: And I would still since this is like things are
Speaker 3: dying and it is like people are fear for life,
Speaker 3: I would still consider this a thriller.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you got this is Anthony Hopkins like when
Speaker 1: he's on fire post Oscar, like a nineteen ninety one
Speaker 1: was on fire for that.
Speaker 3: Whole decade and you got anything, you got Alec Baldwin,
Speaker 3: which is he. It's so funny because from.
Speaker 2: The Shadow Alex Baalds went from the Shaft.
Speaker 3: I have not rewatched it, but I love The Shadow
Speaker 3: growing up, loved it, loved it, had the action figures.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's probably not a good movie. I
Speaker 3: don't probably need to rewatch it. I especially remember the
Speaker 3: scene with him in the long hair and his long
Speaker 3: nasty fingernails. I remember I did see I've watched that
Speaker 3: scene in the CGI and Dagger does not hold it up.
Speaker 3: I don't think it held up back then either.
Speaker 2: Non't really worked back then either.
Speaker 3: But yeah, this movie is I don't know, like it's
Speaker 3: it's crazy because it's funny because at one point in
Speaker 3: time after you start looking into film and you start
Speaker 3: like getting into like the like what could have been? Uh,
Speaker 3: it's funny because this movie is so memorable to me
Speaker 3: with these two u two actors, it's crazy to even
Speaker 3: think that, like this could have been Harris Ford or
Speaker 3: Dustin Hoffman as Bob's character. Yeah, it's weird because I
Speaker 3: don't see them as that character.
Speaker 2: It could have worked, It could have worked.
Speaker 3: I don't know something I would and bring somebody that's like.
Speaker 2: Like, Alec Baldwin is a better asshole. Yes, there you go.
Speaker 2: He is a real asshole. Yes, oh god.
Speaker 1: Him and his wife they have an Instagram and it's
Speaker 1: the most annoying Instagram on Earth.
Speaker 2: They're doing these dumb skits and stuff.
Speaker 3: And it's just like the wife that pretended to be Yeah, the.
Speaker 1: Wife that pretended to be Spanish and did the fake accident.
Speaker 3: I remember watching his COVID videos of him like talking
Speaker 3: about how it was so hard living in COVID. I'm like,
Speaker 3: you're I'm like.
Speaker 2: Why is he so good at playing an asshole? No
Speaker 2: kind of is one? Speaking of people with fake stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm still not I'm still not over Johannah pretending to
Speaker 1: the Italian her whole life.
Speaker 2: Have you been have you heard.
Speaker 3: About this ancestry?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, she did a DNA tests out turns out whatever
Speaker 1: relative she had lied about them being Italian, she's like
Speaker 1: actually part black.
Speaker 2: And like eight percent, like a very small percent. I'm like, wait,
Speaker 2: what decided Balian? But at least she was unknowing, unlike Alec.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's you made a conscience when it was your
Speaker 3: Like I just woke up. You're like, you know what,
Speaker 3: I want to be Hispanic.
Speaker 1: It's like Tommy Whissou saying he's from New Orleans. He's like, no,
Speaker 1: you're not, come on. But anyway, Yeah, Alec Paul went
Speaker 1: real big asshole in this. But I could have seen
Speaker 1: I mean not so much. I can see Dustin Hoffman
Speaker 1: doing it. Uh, but Harrison No, I could see Harrison
Speaker 1: Ford in this part.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's played a bad guy a few times.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, he's a pretty good I mean, I mean
Speaker 3: Han Solo's asshole. Yeah, I mean what's called but like
Speaker 3: something that like Alec Balber definitely brings something to this.
Speaker 3: And then uh, Anthony Hopkins was all his role as
Speaker 3: Charley's talls Chiles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, al Aleck Paul went the whole movie Chiles, Charles,
Speaker 1: Charles Chiles.
Speaker 3: And there's even one point where he says lure. He's like,
Speaker 3: what are we gonna do?
Speaker 2: Charles?
Speaker 3: So how are we gonnaure? But apparently Robert de Niro
Speaker 3: was odd at the beginning stages to do uh, to
Speaker 3: play that character Robert Denier who worked too, Yeah worked,
Speaker 3: but I think they got lucky with alcohola yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: It's so it's also funny too, because we earlier, were
Speaker 3: we just talking about Bart the Bear, which is the
Speaker 3: famous video, the famous bear actor. Yes, you would call him, yes, Uh,
Speaker 3: it's funny the fact that like he had worked I
Speaker 3: found out he had worked with Anthony Hopkins before and
Speaker 3: Legends of the Fall there was a bear in there too,
Speaker 3: and apparently, uh, there was a there's a book written
Speaker 3: about the makers of this film, and there's a part
Speaker 3: in the book that it talks about the Edge and
Speaker 3: then it was turned into a movie as well.
Speaker 2: And in that book.
Speaker 3: They were talking about how working with Bart the Bear
Speaker 3: was just like one of like the craziest things in
Speaker 3: the world because he was such a docile bear and
Speaker 3: such just like he it's weird, like you forgot that
Speaker 3: he was this giant, seventeen hundred pound bear that could
Speaker 3: kill you in one second.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were they were worried he did it well. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And they were worried, like they were worried that.
Speaker 3: He would not be right for the role because he
Speaker 3: was so docile. But they were able to train him
Speaker 3: in a way to actually not hurt people, but look
Speaker 3: like he was hurting people.
Speaker 2: I mean, you just put a bear on camera and
Speaker 2: it's like that's terrifying.
Speaker 3: Well, it's crazy because like ninety percent of this movie
Speaker 3: is Bart the bear.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Literally, there's only a couple of scenes and you can
Speaker 3: kind of tell like where it's just like to anytime
Speaker 3: the actor you're seeing the actor engage at the bear,
Speaker 3: usually where it's the actors in the background and the
Speaker 3: bears in the foreground. You're just seeing from the back
Speaker 3: of the head. That is those scenes where it is
Speaker 3: just like either a stuffed animal or animatronic somewhat because
Speaker 3: they they weren't trained to work with Bart, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, So you need the actual trainers to
Speaker 3: work with the bear. All those other scenes where you
Speaker 3: see like Alet Baldwin and Anthony Hopkins, but you can't
Speaker 3: you just see them in the back of their head,
Speaker 3: that's the actual trainers. That's actually Bart. Which is crazy
Speaker 3: because I think this movie is so good because the
Speaker 3: scenes with the bear feel so realistic. It's not CGI.
Speaker 3: There's only like one use there's well not you want use,
Speaker 3: but there's like only a couple uses of CGI.
Speaker 2: If you I could.
Speaker 1: Tell a couple of them where when it's running, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's one Shaw much like the Lion and goes to
Speaker 1: the darkness.
Speaker 2: There's like one.
Speaker 1: Scene where you're like, that's either CGI or they got
Speaker 1: footage of it running and like rotoscoped it and it
Speaker 1: looks weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the scene where he's breaking through the branches, yes,
Speaker 3: because it's not those aren't real branches.
Speaker 1: And I think when it attacks the guy at night
Speaker 1: in the rain, when it runs up to him, I
Speaker 1: think like that might be one of the scenes where
Speaker 1: it's a little digital. Other than that, You're right, it's
Speaker 1: Bart the bear on camera, so you get a lot.
Speaker 2: Of a bear.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and he also he's the bear in A
Speaker 3: Great Outdoors too as well.
Speaker 1: But it's funny when, like now, when you watch a
Speaker 1: movie with a bear like it was a Prey, it's
Speaker 1: just always a CGI bear.
Speaker 3: Which was which is crazy because they literally recreated the
Speaker 3: exact same screen scene in Prey in this Sorry they
Speaker 3: redid this scene in this movie in Prey. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: they used a real bear.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, it's going like like I think it's it's crazy
Speaker 3: because that scene where Anthony Hopkins is underneath the tree
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, that's the same scene and pray, Yeah,
Speaker 3: but what's one's a CGI bear, one's a real bear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess we're in shorts reasons. It's probably easier
Speaker 1: to have.
Speaker 2: A cgi bears. I can't knock it too much. Yeah,
Speaker 2: animals are a little unpredictable.
Speaker 3: Ye, But yeah, So it's crazy because like with this movie,
Speaker 3: it's it's one of those movies where it's it does
Speaker 3: and get talked about a lot. But I feel like
Speaker 3: there's this one little pocket of films that were just
Speaker 3: like I guess I would call it just popcorn movies.
Speaker 3: Just they weren't gonna win any awards or anything like that,
Speaker 3: but they were just enjoyable and which is fun to watch.
Speaker 2: Shocking is what this is.
Speaker 1: David Mammott, right, David, Yes, David, I was Glenning writer
Speaker 1: David Mammont who did Glengarry, Glenn Ross and The Untouchables.
Speaker 1: So it's actually shocking it didn't get any awards or anything. Uh,
Speaker 1: probably not out of the three movies. That's probably the
Speaker 1: weakest out of those three. Oh yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean it's my favorite out of the three, although Glengary
Speaker 1: Glenn Ross is pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah neat brass balls anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I wonder why it didn't do better, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know why it's not remembered as much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean made forty three million dollars at the
Speaker 3: box office, which I mean that's okay.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I mean for ninety seven, I didn't look up like
Speaker 3: what movies they like went after, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: like like Lolo was also playing at the same time.
Speaker 3: I mean, the director had like he's worked on some stuff,
Speaker 3: but like he didn't go off to do anything crazy
Speaker 3: and he did Mholland Falls. Did you see that one? No,
Speaker 3: with Nick Nolty and Jennifer Jennifer Conley. That one's kind
Speaker 3: of like like a crime you Are detective movie.
Speaker 2: That's where he hooks up with her.
Speaker 1: Because I brought it up in the whole movie and
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, now she's sleepingever but the
Speaker 1: dead she hooked up with a different movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those uh tho not nas scenes. If you want
Speaker 3: to see Jennifer Conley and all of Jennifer Conley he did.
Speaker 3: Along came Spider at oh.
Speaker 1: That I've seen because that's uh, that's based off the
Speaker 1: series of books, like what was it? Kiss the Girls
Speaker 1: was the first one, and then along came Morgan Freeman's Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's that character's name? Tyler Perry ended up playing him
Speaker 1: Alex Cross. Yeah, that's one of the Alex Cross movies.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, Spider, Yeah right, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: And then uh and then he did uh Die Another Day,
Speaker 3: the one with halle Berry.
Speaker 1: You're gonna Joey C's favorite James Bond movie. Really yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a classic, apparently, I.
Speaker 3: Will say I will say during this timeframe, uh, like
Speaker 3: I feel like the nineties were really big on like
Speaker 3: the double cross. I mean because like you got it,
Speaker 3: like uh, I like got Mission I possible double cross
Speaker 3: happens in Mission of Ball Golden Eye, Broken Arrow right
Speaker 3: at the beginning. You you don't know, you don't know.
Speaker 3: John Travoltz is the bad guy, and it's just and
Speaker 3: it just flips on you and then you you get
Speaker 3: a nicely at this one is at the very end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like, although you see it coming, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's like advertised early that there will be a betrayal.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: But the thing is is like as of rewatch, I
Speaker 3: completely forgot that aspect And I'm like, okay, well maybe
Speaker 3: like it's so auto left ball field when He's like, so,
Speaker 3: how do you plan on killing me?
Speaker 2: He's like, what the fun?
Speaker 3: Who says he's trying to kill you? I mean, we'll
Speaker 3: get more into when we started breaking down the movie.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean it's and I did. There's not
Speaker 3: a lot of background behind it. We're just I'm just
Speaker 3: going all over the place right now. But I did
Speaker 3: see that Bartha Bear was given a million dollars for
Speaker 3: this failed real quick the director.
Speaker 1: Did he end up directing Next with Nicholas Cage, Yes,
Speaker 1: he did, which actually I've seen scenario.
Speaker 2: None of them turn out good for you.
Speaker 3: That movie is crazy because that movie, I think at
Speaker 3: one point, if I can remember correctly, because I was
Speaker 3: working the movie, you, I'm sure ghost Rider and Next
Speaker 3: were playing all at the exact same I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I remember watching Next on like cable with friends that
Speaker 1: were just making fun.
Speaker 2: Oh no, he's gonna get shot and then he goes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, watching him watching Nick Kay's with his really bad
Speaker 3: hair plugs jogging through the woods and then doing that backwards.
Speaker 2: It's it's not the best, fuddy, It's no the edge,
Speaker 2: but I think it's so.
Speaker 3: And then another cool thing about the movie, what's called it?
Speaker 3: Has a nice Jerry Goldsmith's score.
Speaker 1: Yes, and he's another one was on fire around the
Speaker 1: time he did Like The Mummy like.
Speaker 2: A year later. Yeah, yeah, ghost in the Darkness and
Speaker 2: Ghosts in the Darkness. While other than.
Speaker 1: That one score, that one was annoying with the high Hi,
Speaker 1: there's nothing that There's not a lot of that.
Speaker 2: And well I remember, like he's got that ever since.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about even since like freaking first Blood, Like
Speaker 3: First Blood is like has got one of my favorite
Speaker 3: like score scenes when he's just walking through the woods
Speaker 3: and he sees he like you just see this as
Speaker 3: like autumn like wintry, like uh foolage and you just
Speaker 3: see still alone with that backpack on, and it just
Speaker 3: that plays is just well performed orchestra. I don't know,
Speaker 3: it really does sound. He puts you in the movie
Speaker 3: without you being in the movie. That makes sense do
Speaker 3: his music.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's got it's got a great score. The
Speaker 1: whole like opening with them like flying and stuff.
Speaker 2: Is it's great. It's great.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, is there anything else that you
Speaker 3: want to add about the You know, I got it?
Speaker 3: When was the first time you saw it? Do you
Speaker 3: remember I.
Speaker 2: Said earlier my grandfather. I can say it again there.
Speaker 1: I can tell you the last time I watched it
Speaker 1: this morning on VHS.
Speaker 3: You know what, I know what happened. I think it's
Speaker 3: because we've this is our second review back to back,
Speaker 3: and I think I just like, in my head, I
Speaker 3: was just thinking of what you said from the previous review,
Speaker 3: and I was like, that's.
Speaker 2: Fine, that's fine. You just getting into it, all right?
Speaker 3: Uh, all right, I'm gonna have Tony read the back
Speaker 3: of the VHS.
Speaker 2: Yes, let's do this. Okay, all the wait, what the hell?
Speaker 1: Uh huh Okay, this tape has just a random fact
Speaker 1: Toyd at the top. Although set in the Alaskan Wilderness,
Speaker 1: The Edge was actually filmed in the Rocky Mountains in Alberta, Canada.
Speaker 1: Some areas were so steep and perilous to reach that
Speaker 1: helicopters had to fly equipment into shooting locations.
Speaker 3: Is that really going to sell the movie?
Speaker 1: That's the twentieth century Fox Selections tape. I gotta check
Speaker 1: my view justin it has that same one. Uh, an
Speaker 1: action film that celebrates survival of the smartest. There's a
Speaker 1: dought that ot in there. So I don't know what
Speaker 1: was in between them.
Speaker 2: It's jaws with claws. That's great.
Speaker 1: A plane crash in the freezing Alaskan wilderness pits intellectual
Speaker 1: billionaire Charles Morse Anthony Hopkins against hot shot fashion photographer
Speaker 1: Robert Green Alec Baldwin in.
Speaker 2: A brutal struggle for survival. Each soon discovers that the
Speaker 2: greatest danger resides not in nature, but from human fear, treachery, and.
Speaker 1: Quite possibly murder. Filled with non stop action and grippin' suspense.
Speaker 2: David Anson, Newsweek.
Speaker 1: This harrowing tale is from Pultzer Prize. Pulitzer Prize. When
Speaker 1: I wasn't pointing, I was David Mammick Clean Garry Glenn Ross,
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven, color, approximately one hundred twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: Get didn't get out good time length? Uh yeah, there you.
Speaker 3: Go, perfect, all right, So let's go right into it.
Speaker 3: So the movie opens up at a small like airport.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 3: We get introduced to Charles, Robert, Mickey, and Steven. Those
Speaker 3: are the main characters. There's some other people there, but
Speaker 3: those are the really the people who are going to
Speaker 3: focus on throughout the Manda his wife. Yeah that's Mickey.
Speaker 2: Oh that's make this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I forget who the other guy is Stephen Stephen,
Speaker 1: that's Harold Parano's character.
Speaker 2: Wait, which one the black guy? Yes, yes, yes, I
Speaker 2: was saying his real name. I say it's hard for now.
Speaker 2: Yes he was.
Speaker 3: He was on a lost It was in Romeo Juliet too,
Speaker 3: and Romeo and Juliet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: But whenever I think of when when he crashed in here,
Speaker 1: I expected him to start going wa w from us
Speaker 1: because that was like the big thing the first season.
Speaker 2: He was always looking for a wall.
Speaker 3: Well, he's on that news show too, that uh, that
Speaker 3: weird horror style Sciphi show. Is that one called from
Speaker 3: something like that actor.
Speaker 2: Who looks like him? So I wonder, Yeah, so he's Steve, right.
Speaker 3: He's Steven Steve. Yeah, yeah, he's Stephen.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: So we basically find out that we meet Charles is
Speaker 3: a billionaire yeah uh, and Mickey is his lovely uh
Speaker 3: model wife?
Speaker 2: Who is uh? Who's the actress?
Speaker 3: It's she's a she's actually really yeah.
Speaker 1: Elle McPherson, El McPherson, Uh, keep talking. I want to
Speaker 1: look up what she was in.
Speaker 3: This is a wonderful This is like the movie that
Speaker 3: really got her into acting, like this movie is like
Speaker 3: when she kind of like I never thought about being
Speaker 3: after she got kicked rolled into this film, and that's
Speaker 3: when she actually turned out to actually, like, you know what,
Speaker 3: I actually kind of liked this kind of stuff, which,
Speaker 3: by the way, for someone who's not an actor, she
Speaker 3: doesn't do a bad job.
Speaker 1: I mean, was she got lucky with this one because
Speaker 1: she playing a model? That's what I know her from.
Speaker 1: She's a famous Batman girlfriend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wullie Madison. What a year for her? The Edge
Speaker 2: and Batman and Robin.
Speaker 3: Yeah they so I think Batman Robin came out first
Speaker 3: and then The Edge came out. But she I think
Speaker 3: like filmed The Edge first. Yeah, I mean, like I
Speaker 3: think within weeks that movies came.
Speaker 1: By the way, she's not bad in either, but also
Speaker 1: she doesn't really have a much to do it either,
Speaker 1: so it.
Speaker 2: Kind of works out.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so they're heading the other way to uh
Speaker 3: do like Alaskan style photo shoot and this cabin in
Speaker 3: the woods. We like I said, Charles is very wealthy
Speaker 3: and Bob is his wife's photographer, and I guess Stephen
Speaker 3: is what was Stephen? Technically I don't remember.
Speaker 2: Stephen worked for Bob.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like he's like I don't know, you know
Speaker 3: about like photo shoots and stuff like that, but like
Speaker 3: he always had like the he's set up the shots for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that's called.
Speaker 1: I don't know the specific job title. But they worked together.
Speaker 1: But I like Charles.
Speaker 2: Because like you can tell, like something's up with him.
Speaker 1: He is a billionaire and everything, but you could tell
Speaker 1: he yearns to do more, Like he missed out on
Speaker 1: a venture in his life and he's trying to make
Speaker 1: up with it by marrying a way younger woman.
Speaker 3: Uh apparently so. The original title of the movie was
Speaker 3: called Bookworm because he's all about reading, yeah, and learn.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing is, like he likes to learn
Speaker 3: new things. In this movie puts on a scenario where
Speaker 3: he needs to do those put those things that he
Speaker 3: learned to yes, read about that's his whole thing.
Speaker 1: Like he missed the life of adventure building up his
Speaker 1: wealth and everything is fortune, but he read about it
Speaker 1: a lot as much as he could.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think billionaires take trips and stuff. I don't know
Speaker 1: why he didn't do any of the stuff earlier. I
Speaker 1: don't he could have afforded like a week away and
Speaker 1: a survival thing.
Speaker 2: And this is another thing.
Speaker 3: He's a very interesting character. Like I'm like, what all
Speaker 3: the stuff that you're doing is that in the script
Speaker 3: or is that something that Anthony Hopkins brought to the table,
Speaker 3: because he's very just his mannerisms and how he acts,
Speaker 3: it's just like it's not like a normal person.
Speaker 1: Well, Anthony Hopkins always, even when he's playing a good guy,
Speaker 1: seems like a bad guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe that's just my first exposure was
Speaker 1: Hannibal Lecter, But whenever I watch him, like, I know,
Speaker 1: you're a good guy, but you really feel like a
Speaker 1: bad guy, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So basically, uh, they're on their way to this
Speaker 3: little small cabin uh and Charles Hays Uh he's filling
Speaker 3: with his book on survival and stuff like that. And
Speaker 3: it's it's funny because he's, like I said, he's like
Speaker 3: he's a kind of man that likes.
Speaker 2: To learn things.
Speaker 3: And then uh, like you know people that always like
Speaker 3: go to like school and stuff like that, Like some
Speaker 3: people like we'll just love going to school and shit,
Speaker 3: while we're on this plane, we get a little bit
Speaker 3: of like some setups for later in the film, we
Speaker 3: we find out that Bob has gotten new watch. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's bragging about it and oh my.
Speaker 1: Watch yeah for different time zones, so he didn't have
Speaker 1: to add oh my god.
Speaker 3: He he's so pretentious. Yeah, this movie and all clear
Speaker 3: he's doing on purpose. There's definitely a scene where he
Speaker 3: just like he's going on a rant and it is
Speaker 3: like he sounds so like.
Speaker 2: God, you hate him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh my god, he's so like when we talk
Speaker 3: about trying to find the shoes and just shine the shoes,
Speaker 3: and then Charles just like, you know, a banana pil
Speaker 3: coon shoes, which I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 2: I don't know every survival.
Speaker 1: Thing in this I'm like, I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 1: Like if you were to look it up, he was like,
Speaker 1: none of this makes sense. I did see there was
Speaker 1: a video. I didn't have time to watch it, but
Speaker 1: there is a video that's like a survivalist debunks the edge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw it was there, I just didn't have time.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, so maybe I'll watch it afterwards. But
Speaker 1: I'm guessing this movie takes a lot of liberties with
Speaker 1: all the facts that he's throwing oh, I'm sure.
Speaker 3: Like to play with like, like, that's only nine times
Speaker 3: out ten. Would you watch a movie that says based
Speaker 3: on true events a lot? Like I would say a
Speaker 3: lot of it it's not true? Yeah, Like I mean
Speaker 3: it's And it's funny when you watch a movie where
Speaker 3: it's like based on true events and it's like there's
Speaker 3: Ashley clips so you can go back and watch, You're like, oh,
Speaker 3: that it didn't happen that way. Why would you Why
Speaker 3: would you change? I can watch the video exactly how
Speaker 3: that event happened. Why are you changing it?
Speaker 1: Well, this one isn't based on true events, but it
Speaker 1: is represented. It is like saying like, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: what you could do in the wild.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm like I feel like if I ever crashed in
Speaker 1: the Alaskan wilderness or or the rocky mountains in Alberta,
Speaker 1: I feel like I would be like, I know, I
Speaker 1: saw the edge and I'd probably die in five minutes
Speaker 1: trying to learn everything I did from this movie.
Speaker 2: Who has a needle in some silk? I can get
Speaker 2: us out of here, all right.
Speaker 3: So they end up landing on the plane and we
Speaker 3: meet styles. This is kind of another character that's introduced
Speaker 3: and he is the owner of the cabin in the
Speaker 3: land that they're staying at. Yeah, he basically lets them know,
Speaker 3: you know, let me know if you need any help.
Speaker 3: But one thing I gotta tell you, there are bears
Speaker 3: around here and they're very dangerous and that what's called
Speaker 3: uh they have been said to like the flesh of men.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so once they eat the flesh and man, they
Speaker 1: can't have anything else.
Speaker 2: They crave it.
Speaker 3: Apparently. I did google fact check that apparently once a
Speaker 3: bear does eat a person, they do see them as
Speaker 3: a food source. They're not curious anymore after they've eaten
Speaker 3: the meat, because I was like, is that true?
Speaker 2: And they're like, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know if they'll go out of their way to
Speaker 1: look for human but they will.
Speaker 3: But they're like, they're not curious anymore.
Speaker 2: They know it's meat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, once they know they can eat it, But like,
Speaker 1: I feel like they prefer other things.
Speaker 2: I'm sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the that's the thing
Speaker 2: with this movie. The bear is hunting the I'm like,
Speaker 2: I feel like the bear would be like.
Speaker 1: All right, well, let's go to the stream and get
Speaker 1: some fish you eat.
Speaker 2: Like an elk or something.
Speaker 1: It was like we were joking with like anaconda where
Speaker 1: like eats the panther and like that anaconda should just
Speaker 1: sit still for a week and die us that panther.
Speaker 2: More. It's like there's so many more things in the jungles.
Speaker 2: Stop going after the boat.
Speaker 3: So we get to the scene where we get this
Speaker 3: really good moment where like Bob is walking around looking
Speaker 3: inside the cabin and he looks at this photo of
Speaker 3: this this Native American that it's black and white, and
Speaker 3: he's like, you know what to go and actually capture
Speaker 3: true moment like that you need to go back to
Speaker 3: the nineteenth century and stuff. And he's like he's like
Speaker 3: to really get the true ess photo like that, Sir, sir,
Speaker 3: when was this Do you know when this photo was taken?
Speaker 3: It was takeing two weeks ago?
Speaker 2: Yeah, two weeks ago. That's my friend.
Speaker 1: He's out hunting right now. I'd be hunting with him
Speaker 1: right now if you weren't here. He's like hmm okay, But.
Speaker 3: It's one of those moments where you're like, Okay, this
Speaker 3: guy's got his head up his own ends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, legit. So they end up.
Speaker 3: It's so now after they get nice and like settled,
Speaker 3: he goes to like later that night, and we see that.
Speaker 3: We get a little bit into a conversation back and
Speaker 3: forth with Charles and his wife. It looks like clearly
Speaker 3: their marriage is going great and stuff like that. He's
Speaker 3: in love with her. He's still's acting pretty fucking weird
Speaker 3: about the whole trip in general. Well, we learned later
Speaker 3: on he knows something's up, and I'm guessing, like, is
Speaker 3: that why this feels like that?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 3: Because like at this point, like I said, we've learned
Speaker 3: that later, But I'm like, is this like foreshadowing? Like no,
Speaker 3: he's kind of uneasy about this whole scenario.
Speaker 1: Yeah, however, this scene that is why I didn't include
Speaker 1: in Him Boys Month. I was like, this feels like
Speaker 1: a Good Boys Month episode. She asked him to make
Speaker 1: a sandwich.
Speaker 2: I was thinking. I was thinking she asked him to
Speaker 2: make a.
Speaker 1: Sandwich, and I went, I can't leave the Boys astray
Speaker 1: with this, Like I love this movie, but this is
Speaker 1: not Boy's Mouth fruit.
Speaker 2: So yeah, he's just like, go make me a sandwich.
Speaker 2: He's like, Okay, it's like he's the billionaire lady.
Speaker 3: Come on, I don't you think she asks him? She goes,
Speaker 3: She's like I'm hungry. I like a sandwich, like or
Speaker 3: like a sandwich or so, why am I saying sandwich?
Speaker 3: You're samwich.
Speaker 2: You're saying sandwich.
Speaker 3: She's like, she's like, I'm hungry. I would like a sandwich.
Speaker 3: I do it again, I would like a sandwich. And
Speaker 3: he's like, okay, I'll go make you one.
Speaker 2: He didn't. She didn't ask him. It's like weird, but
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, then he's flying.
Speaker 1: Then he's flying that he's better at make okay, never mind,
Speaker 1: boy's abanut to proof now.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I like that. He goes down and like,
Speaker 2: the door's open. What's the thing?
Speaker 3: Is like, okay, so the door's open. He sees the
Speaker 3: move meat setting out there, and he's just like, they
Speaker 3: told us to pack up all this food. Why the
Speaker 3: hell is this sitting out here? And I'm like, why
Speaker 3: is there so much tension in this? You think there's
Speaker 3: a bear?
Speaker 2: You can't hear it? Yeah, well, little do we know.
Speaker 3: He's starting to look around. He shuts the door and
Speaker 3: then Bob comes out in a bear suit, stares the
Speaker 3: shit out the ship out, almost kills him and it's
Speaker 3: the thing. He's like, And then they're like, oh, surprise,
Speaker 3: happy our day. It's like, what the fuck is what
Speaker 3: can you not be normal and just have a normal birthday?
Speaker 1: Surpris in like the middle of the night, like what
Speaker 1: the fuck? Everyone was about to go to bed and
Speaker 1: suddenly it's a big surprise. Part It makes no fucking sense,
Speaker 1: and he's like, I thought you forgot. Oh that's why
Speaker 1: he was weird, Like I thought you forgot it was
Speaker 1: my birthday. And then we see, uh, I think, I'm sorry, billionaire,
Speaker 1: I think your wife will remember your birthday. I feel
Speaker 1: like like that's how and then that's how she guarantees
Speaker 1: she stays your wife.
Speaker 3: It's crazy because it's like it really is that that
Speaker 3: it is that oh but like Mary for money kind
Speaker 3: of scenario. And later we find out that just fucking
Speaker 3: destroy that brought. But sorry, Bob cannot can't fathom the
Speaker 3: idea of like why when she choose you, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like he's just like it just gets
Speaker 3: to his core. But we find out that she has
Speaker 3: got him a very nice watch yes for his birthday,
Speaker 3: and then uh, he gets handed a really nice knife
Speaker 3: from Bob uh to celebrate his birthday. So now it's
Speaker 3: the next morning we wake up and they are on
Speaker 3: the like the dock or whatever, shooting his wife's and
Speaker 3: her all get out and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So dressed like a Native American, and I said, cancel
Speaker 1: the edge.
Speaker 3: I will not have this slander, this cultural appropriation.
Speaker 1: Although the movie kind of agrees that his alcohol was like,
Speaker 1: you know, the hot blonde over there, I don't think
Speaker 1: she's really representing Native Americans.
Speaker 2: We got to find a real Native American. And he goes,
Speaker 2: who's that guy? Hey, where's that guy? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So apparently I have another model that's supposed to be
Speaker 3: their name James and Stephen Basically, well, James is sick.
Speaker 3: He's like, what do you mean James is sick? He's like, like,
Speaker 3: how sick is he? He's like, well, you'll have to
Speaker 3: get better to die.
Speaker 2: In my head, I'm like, does.
Speaker 3: That mean he's dead? So yeah, they he is needing that.
Speaker 3: That second person, he's like, Okay, well how about this guy?
Speaker 3: How about this guy in this photo? Do you know
Speaker 3: you said you know this guy? Where's he yet? He's like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, he's like eighty miles X, Y and Z. Yeah,
Speaker 3: is all right? Can we get there by playing?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Of course, He's like alkay, all right, and then they
Speaker 3: they sync it up together like, hey, Charles, you want
Speaker 3: to go on an adventure?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I like this because Charles like is starting to
Speaker 1: relate to the guy who owns the cabin because he
Speaker 1: knows a lot of stuff. They have like same knowledge,
Speaker 1: like when he had the knife, he gave the coin
Speaker 1: to the thing through the story of like the rabbit and.
Speaker 2: The panther or whatever.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And they're so they're like really bonding. And then the
Speaker 2: guy's like.
Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, I was thinking of developing this
Speaker 1: area and for an investment of thirty million. And it's
Speaker 1: like and that's another thing, like Charles like everyone just
Speaker 1: wants me for my money.
Speaker 2: It's like a part that like kind of like upsets him.
Speaker 3: It's funny because also it's like, no fence man, but really,
Speaker 3: do you really think you're so smoking hot? Wife really
Speaker 3: wants you not for your money.
Speaker 1: I mean there's also I mean there's plenty of women
Speaker 1: who will date older men just because they have daddy issues.
Speaker 2: But it's not always about money. Okay, sometimes they just
Speaker 2: have daddy issues.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a blessing when it's both that works
Speaker 1: out both ways.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: But Yeah, he was like that one like really hurt
Speaker 1: like him. He's like I thought I had a friend
Speaker 1: that I related.
Speaker 2: To, but they just wanted my money him at that moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I I can see that, Like, I
Speaker 3: mean I can I agree if like, you know, we
Speaker 3: don't really understand how to be in that how it
Speaker 3: would feel to be in that situation. But and I
Speaker 3: guess that's probably why, like he seems like he's more
Speaker 3: just not self involved, but he's just more of.
Speaker 2: Like keeps to himself. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now he's not like all like I only care about myself.
Speaker 3: He's just like I know everybody what everyone else wants,
Speaker 3: so I only just basically do my thing because I
Speaker 3: don't I don't want to be put in those scenarios.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he agrees to go on the trip the
Speaker 3: Finely guy, well, because that's another thing is that's that's
Speaker 3: he's got his book with him, he's got his how
Speaker 3: to Survive in the wild. So he ends up getting
Speaker 3: on the plane with him. Uh they end up flying
Speaker 3: to uh Barneck Like, uh, well sorry, they get to
Speaker 3: his cabin, he's not there.
Speaker 2: He's not there. He went hunting. Yeah, he went hunting
Speaker 2: at Bareneck Lake.
Speaker 3: And that is when uh, they're okay, well, let's get
Speaker 3: back on the plane and let's go fly to Bareneck Lake.
Speaker 1: They should probably have radioed and told people where they
Speaker 1: were going, right, right, I would have right.
Speaker 2: Like, hey, going to bear whatever Lake.
Speaker 1: And if the plane goes down, check every area around here.
Speaker 3: And also, you know, this is ninety seven. I'm pretty
Speaker 3: sure there's still devices in planes.
Speaker 2: There's a radio exactly. AnyWho.
Speaker 3: They end up taking off and he starts having, you know,
Speaker 3: a conversation with Bob and he's like, Bob, what do
Speaker 3: you value me for? Like what is this that we have?
Speaker 3: And he's like, well, like your sense of style and
Speaker 3: I think your wife's pretty cute, yeah, and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: And he's like, uh, I like you you're you're a
Speaker 3: man's man and you made your own wealth and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. He's all right, all right, so when do
Speaker 3: you plan on killing me? And he's like what and
Speaker 3: then prove.
Speaker 2: Bunch of birth.
Speaker 1: The pilots goes, oh fuck, and I'm just a bunch
Speaker 1: of slamming into them, which they mentioned earlier, like hey,
Speaker 1: we're having like ours, yeah, and they just freaking crash.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: That scene is so blood's fucking everywhere, feathers and blood
Speaker 3: and are like, ah.
Speaker 2: There's the intense scene of him like I can't pull
Speaker 2: it up, and they just crash.
Speaker 3: So they end up hitting a mountain. One of the
Speaker 3: legs breaks off and they just keep on going down.
Speaker 3: They go right into the water, crash, fucking sinks into
Speaker 3: the ground.
Speaker 2: They just crashed.
Speaker 1: Into the Alaskan Wilderness, which again was actually the Rocky
Speaker 1: Mountains in Alberta.
Speaker 2: Uh. Sorry, it was just a really important fact. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm can't get over that.
Speaker 1: It just starts with the random like IMDb trivia fact
Speaker 1: on the tape, like okay.
Speaker 3: So they start, they start sinking, and you get this
Speaker 3: moment where like, I don't really I don't know why,
Speaker 3: maybe that they maybe like you know, uh, the pots
Speaker 3: passed out and then he drowns because he's passed out. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but you know, for some goddamn reason, h Steven doesn't
Speaker 3: know how to use a fucking buckle and can't unbuckle
Speaker 3: himself al ball, which is like fuck this, I only
Speaker 3: carry about myself. I'm getting the fuck out here. He
Speaker 3: swims to the surface. Andy Hopkins Charles ends up saving
Speaker 3: Steven by cutting his belt loop with the knife, and
Speaker 3: they end up making their way back up to the top.
Speaker 3: They swim into shore and stuff like that. We get
Speaker 3: this one really big scene where it's just like, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, like they ask for their watch by watch
Speaker 3: his bust and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: They uh.
Speaker 3: One thing that uh and Top does does he does
Speaker 3: grab the bag of flares, which you know he plays
Speaker 3: in it's a big point in like survival. Uh, and
Speaker 3: he got his book. So they end up setting up
Speaker 3: a fire trying to keep warm and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: They should just not leave the river, like they're always
Speaker 1: going into the woods where no one can see them, Like.
Speaker 2: Follow the river, what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's the thing is. It's like also like
Speaker 3: at one point, like because they the one thing that
Speaker 3: they come up with, they're like, Okay, we're going to
Speaker 3: do a smoke fire because that's gonna make more that's
Speaker 3: gonna be more noticeable for everybody. And He's like, because
Speaker 3: they know if we went to the guy's cabin and
Speaker 3: he was hunting, we know we they would assume we
Speaker 3: went to the lake, And well why would they assume that?
Speaker 3: Like because the letter, the note He's like, you mean this,
Speaker 3: It's like, why the fuck would you take that?
Speaker 2: Why do you need that? Why do you need that?
Speaker 3: Why would you take that off the fucking cannet?
Speaker 2: There's literally no reason, Jay.
Speaker 3: I guess maybe a cheap I keepsake or something, or
Speaker 3: literally because a plot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's literally it. That's literally there's no reason for
Speaker 2: him to take that note.
Speaker 3: So since that is all happening, they end up like, Okay,
Speaker 3: well we do know we crashed over here, so if
Speaker 3: we make our way we were we were going north,
Speaker 3: we make our way south, we'll make our way back
Speaker 3: to where we were supposed to be.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: And that's where Charles comes up with the idea. He's like, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do a compassy. Why are you freaking to do?
Speaker 2: The companies?
Speaker 3: He's like, I need a needle and he's like, well,
Speaker 3: do you ever travel with a needle? He's like, and
Speaker 3: he pulls out a paper He.
Speaker 2: Pulls out a paper clip.
Speaker 1: He puts it on a leaf, rubs it on silk,
Speaker 1: and the magnetization will point at north.
Speaker 2: So he figures out south is by this peak and
Speaker 2: he's like, I got it. We're gonna go there. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be great. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So they end up basically starting on their their hike,
Speaker 3: which will last a couple of days or so, but
Speaker 3: about a day or a day and a half or whatever.
Speaker 2: Body.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they end up doing it on their hike. While
Speaker 3: they're hiking, Charles wants to bring up the conversation they
Speaker 3: had on the plane. You know, it's called uh, well sorry,
Speaker 3: I think it's Bob who brings up and he's like,
Speaker 3: so is it do you did I hear you're right?
Speaker 3: Did you ask me how I plan on killing you?
Speaker 3: And he was like, yeah, I want to know how
Speaker 3: you plan on killing me because it's it is pretty
Speaker 3: crazy because it's a pretty off the wall question to ask.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, I don't think Alec Baldwin was planning on
Speaker 2: killing him anytime soon. No, this is all like I
Speaker 2: could tell, like in the back of his head. He's
Speaker 2: just like I could get it out of the way now,
Speaker 2: but I gotta make sure I get out of this
Speaker 2: situation first.
Speaker 3: Well almost, it's like all like, was he even planning
Speaker 3: on killing him in the first place, because like, why
Speaker 3: would he automatically?
Speaker 1: I feel like he wanted to kill him eventually, but
Speaker 1: he couldn't figure out how, and getting lost in the
Speaker 1: wilderness is a pretty good way to get rid of someone.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but I don't think like this trip was
Speaker 1: meant to kill him. I think it's just something that
Speaker 1: was on his mind and he might have the possibility
Speaker 1: to do it soon, but he also need Charles to
Speaker 1: live so he can't.
Speaker 3: Feel Yeah, well, yeah, that's because that's the big part
Speaker 3: of the movie is they set that up as far
Speaker 3: as like he's going to try to you know, he's
Speaker 3: going to try to kill him, but then throughout the
Speaker 3: entire movie they dismiss it, like, well, it's just Charles
Speaker 3: being paranoid because of how everything is going on with
Speaker 3: his life, and you know, he's got this beautiful wife
Speaker 3: and people always want something from him and they want
Speaker 3: to take it from him.
Speaker 2: So he's like, you know you could.
Speaker 3: Bob is kind of playing off like that's just you
Speaker 3: being rich, that's just your thought process because you're rich,
Speaker 3: and that's why that's why you're thinking this. And uh,
Speaker 3: even he breaks up to he's like, he's like, how
Speaker 3: about this, how do we just get out of the way.
Speaker 3: We'll go home together. When we say all this is
Speaker 3: you know, wall you know, we'll experience some homosexuality. We'll
Speaker 3: get a hotel or whatever express our feelings.
Speaker 2: He does his gay voice. You could do that in
Speaker 2: the nineties you were allowed to do a gay voice.
Speaker 1: But you know what those days are back all future episodes,
Speaker 1: I'll be doing a game.
Speaker 3: You've seen the New Naked Gun, right, Yes, the one
Speaker 3: part where it's like like the black Eye piece. I
Speaker 3: don't think you can say anymore my clubby can, my
Speaker 3: clubby can?
Speaker 2: By the way, you I'm not gonna say, but you
Speaker 2: can't say that. I learned.
Speaker 1: It's like everyone just stopped caring, and the people who
Speaker 1: complain complained too much, so no one takes some serious anywhere.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, it's just everyone's just going nuts right now,
Speaker 2: like I'm back in high school.
Speaker 3: So all right, So they continue on after the conversation
Speaker 3: stop there. They're still hiking, and then all of a
Speaker 3: sudden they hear something in the woods and there's a bear. Yes,
Speaker 3: there's a bear, and you know what's called They're trying
Speaker 3: to remember the exact same thing that they said what
Speaker 3: because at the beginning of the movie, Style says, you
Speaker 3: ever see a bear, look at it? And well that slowly.
Speaker 3: Then they also fucking take off running. Does that when
Speaker 3: it starts to charge them or are they running before
Speaker 3: it even starts to charge.
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly, however, I mean it's hit or
Speaker 1: missed with bears. I feel like in the wild you
Speaker 1: might not be as lucky. If they're in a residential area,
Speaker 1: they're like more scared.
Speaker 2: Like there's that one video where the guy like opens
Speaker 2: up his door. He's like, go way, the bears lease.
Speaker 1: But I love that one video where like it's the
Speaker 1: old couple. This is like a real video in their camera,
Speaker 1: their security cameras on. They have no idea that there's
Speaker 1: a bear, like a black bear outside, and they walk
Speaker 1: out and the bear freezes and then they walk away
Speaker 1: and the bear just there was a.
Speaker 2: Bear in my neighborhood a few months ago.
Speaker 3: I have shit, really, I totally missed it.
Speaker 1: Prison Mike, who just happened to be in my neighborhood,
Speaker 1: sends me a snapchat. I'm like, what's that And it's
Speaker 1: a bear just two blocks away, just running through neighbors
Speaker 1: and I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, what the hell. He's like, I just saw a bear.
Speaker 2: And then like later that day it was like it
Speaker 2: made it one town over. They caught it, they tranked
Speaker 2: it and put it back in the wild.
Speaker 3: Well, that was like, I'm not gonna lie. So I
Speaker 3: live in Tennessee. I lived in Tennessee. My parents still
Speaker 3: lived there. Last time I even Becka went back to visit.
Speaker 3: My mom was like, it was like, now you gotta
Speaker 3: be careful outside and night. There's bears. I'm like, MoMA,
Speaker 3: there ain't no bears, and he say, no, no, they're
Speaker 3: sighting of bears now, like we have bears in these woods. Now,
Speaker 3: I'm like, what are you fucking kidding me like that?
Speaker 3: They no, no, no, I'm me seriously, you know what's
Speaker 3: called you You gotta be careful when you go out
Speaker 3: if you want to go outside and night. I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: first off, why am I going out side night wherever
Speaker 3: we go, I'm coming back and just staying at the house.
Speaker 3: I'm not going I don't need to go outside.
Speaker 1: I don't just frolic in the woods. I do all
Speaker 1: the time, not now because there's so many bears.
Speaker 3: But so back to the movie, Bear starts chasing them.
Speaker 3: They start running across the woods. They come across almost
Speaker 3: like a waterfall area, and they're like Okay, Well we
Speaker 3: do is we'll take this dead tree, we'll build a bridge,
Speaker 3: we'll get over the bridge. Yeah, and then what's called
Speaker 3: and then we'll the bear won't be able to follow us.
Speaker 3: And so first off, you get Bob goes.
Speaker 1: Bears never go into water, caver, they're not I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, the bears they hate the water. They don't stay,
Speaker 1: they don't stand in streams of rivers all day long
Speaker 1: eating fish.
Speaker 3: Also, I'm not too sure, but I do remember seeing
Speaker 3: a bear riding a tricycle over a type rope once,
Speaker 3: so I'm pretty sure he could walk over the rock,
Speaker 3: over the dead tree.
Speaker 1: And this is this is the King Kong moment where
Speaker 1: the bear comes. That's great shaking the lot.
Speaker 3: So yeah, we got Steven gets over, Bob gets over.
Speaker 3: Then it's Charles's time. Charles ends up falling and he's
Speaker 3: holding on by a satchel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with the flares in him. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And so we end up getting this epic scene where Bob,
Speaker 3: who's trying to kill Charles, saves Charles's life. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: that's a big scene where he's like you saved me
Speaker 3: back there, He's like, well, yeah, well you know what
Speaker 3: would you expect me to He's like, He's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: but but you saved me. I owe you my life.
Speaker 3: He's like, well, yeah, I can't kill yet. You gotta
Speaker 3: get us out of this place.
Speaker 2: He's gotta put again. I I think he just wanted
Speaker 2: to murder Charles.
Speaker 1: I don't think he ever took it seriously until a
Speaker 1: point in the story where he's like, I can get
Speaker 1: away with it now.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I love you, Tony, but I feel like Bob is
Speaker 3: a does a lot of Tony moments.
Speaker 2: Yeah I need you right now, but later.
Speaker 1: No, this, if this was the end of the movie,
Speaker 1: if this was a Tony thing, I would have never
Speaker 1: even gotten on the plane.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, no, I'm not photographed.
Speaker 3: Uh so yeah, So Charles ends up saving what's hard.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Sorry, Tony, I'm talking to girl as a
Speaker 1: billionaire husband.
Speaker 2: I'm like, she's not leaving him for me. I'm done
Speaker 2: with sorry. Go.
Speaker 3: So Bob ends up saving Charles's life. They lose the
Speaker 3: satchel with the flares, but they still got the matches,
Speaker 3: so we're still okay at some point where we can
Speaker 3: still start fires and keep ourselves warm. They hide all
Speaker 3: the way through.
Speaker 2: The night into the morning.
Speaker 3: Uh. They they, you know, they they do stop at
Speaker 3: some points time because we see some like cool like
Speaker 3: transitions where it's like cold and they're up higher on
Speaker 3: the mountains and stuff like that. But they are walking
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden they see a fire that's
Speaker 3: been put out and they've literally just done a circle.
Speaker 2: Yeah. His uh what we're called his compass didn't work perfectly.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, well but here's the thing though, if
Speaker 3: it pointed them in a direction, if they just kept
Speaker 3: on walking straight, they wouldn't have turned into a circle.
Speaker 2: Once again in the woods.
Speaker 1: Though sometimes you don't know what way is true because
Speaker 1: trails aren't even and whatnot.
Speaker 3: So I can't just follow the river, yeah, really, to
Speaker 3: be honest, because that that is the whole point, Like
Speaker 3: after that fails, right, we just got to follow the river.
Speaker 3: It's like a bunch of.
Speaker 2: Always followed the river.
Speaker 1: There's a clearing, you hear a plane you can get
Speaker 1: in a clearing so they can see you, and said,
Speaker 1: they're like, well, time to go into the woods.
Speaker 3: Like no, and then so everyone's freaking out, you know,
Speaker 3: Bob's pissed. Steven is really freaking out. He's starting to
Speaker 3: lose it because he's put everyone so far has been
Speaker 3: putt all their confidence in Charles. Okay, well Charles knows
Speaker 3: a lot, so I guess we'll just listen to Charles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's also like he's never really practiced this exactly.
Speaker 2: Difference between that exactly, so.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know it's called in order to keep everyone calm.
Speaker 3: He's like, you know what, hey, Stephen, you know what
Speaker 3: I need. I need you to do me something. I
Speaker 3: need you to make spears. We need spears.
Speaker 2: Send off killing Stephen.
Speaker 3: He gives him the knife. He's like, you could do that, right,
Speaker 3: He's like whatever.
Speaker 2: And so, uh he should have said do you know
Speaker 2: how to whittle or carve?
Speaker 3: First off?
Speaker 2: How like was he doing like this? He's probably putting
Speaker 2: it on his leg again. I was a boy scout.
Speaker 2: Don't do that.
Speaker 3: No, it's always do it away, away, away and not
Speaker 3: like against no, no, no no, it's always away, always away.
Speaker 3: I went to one one boy scout meeting and that
Speaker 3: was one thing that I learned. Yeah, but yeah, so
Speaker 3: he ends up fucking gouging his thigh, yeah, straight open.
Speaker 3: Charles gets the bleeding to stop. He starts mending getting
Speaker 3: stuff like that, and he.
Speaker 2: Tells him, hey, this bloody thing, throw it away, bury it,
Speaker 2: bury it.
Speaker 3: Yes, Barry bury it, And for some goddamn reason, Bob
Speaker 3: just throws it and it gets stuck in the tree. Uh.
Speaker 3: And that's very important because that night, while they're all
Speaker 3: relaxing in the rain and trying to calm down and
Speaker 3: chill out, uh, we end up getting another bear attack.
Speaker 3: And this one is amazing.
Speaker 2: I love the reveal when he sees the things, like.
Speaker 3: Oh, and the thing is it's another reculting like it's
Speaker 3: it's like it's also good because when you see Bart
Speaker 3: the bear go to we don't get a lot of music,
Speaker 3: and it's just like kind of like silent, like it's
Speaker 3: just like bam, he's there.
Speaker 2: You just here like just rips him apart and it's
Speaker 2: just shaking him all over.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this this scene alone is worth like
Speaker 3: this scene alone is worth people watching, Like just that
Speaker 3: clip alone, Like you need to fut out what happens
Speaker 3: in the movie because I mean that I'm that's gotta
Speaker 3: be a dummy, right, that has to.
Speaker 2: I think sometimes it is a stunt man. It sweet
Speaker 2: because I feel like I saw a guy moving and
Speaker 2: well that was another thing.
Speaker 3: It is like I know, they can make really realistic
Speaker 3: dummies and stuff like that, like like I like, it's
Speaker 3: it's and they like the dummies can end up weighing like,
Speaker 3: you know, like fifty pounds.
Speaker 2: I mean they do.
Speaker 1: They've taught bears how to box and wrestle, so they
Speaker 1: probably got barta bear to just shake.
Speaker 2: A stunt man back, not like attacking true shake. Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because his arms are front. I mean, he's going
Speaker 3: everywhere and it's it's great because then he throws him
Speaker 3: and then it cuts back to him laying down and
Speaker 3: he's looking at his like blood is eric, there's just
Speaker 3: chunks of meat on his thigh. That now that scene
Speaker 3: was burned into my brain. I was little because that's
Speaker 3: and I always, you know, I make that joke a
Speaker 3: lot where like when like someone just can't catch a
Speaker 3: fucking break, I always make reference to.
Speaker 2: This movie.
Speaker 3: Steven just can't catch him break and it just straights
Speaker 3: up murders him. Yeah, just murders him. So Charles and
Speaker 3: Bob are able to get away. All right, it's next morning,
Speaker 3: and that's when, like I said, we get to the
Speaker 3: thing it's like, all right, where we need to find
Speaker 3: the river. Uh, that is our only way to get
Speaker 3: out of here. But we get this moment where like
Speaker 3: Bob's like I understand that, but we need to eat,
Speaker 3: like we we we've been going on a couple of
Speaker 3: days without food.
Speaker 2: We need to do something. So Uh.
Speaker 3: Charles ends up making a little like basket to catch
Speaker 3: a squirrel.
Speaker 2: And also like luckily there just happened to be a
Speaker 2: squirrel on that log that one day, and he's he
Speaker 2: uses like.
Speaker 3: I guess, like a nut or something. I don't know,
Speaker 3: a walnut or something. I don't know what he uses
Speaker 3: the lure the squirrel. But we get this great moment
Speaker 3: of him in his little makeshift box and he captures
Speaker 3: the squirrel.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And right as they celebrate, we hear a helicopter. Yes,
Speaker 3: a helicopter shows up and they are like, all right,
Speaker 3: fuck this, let's go where the helicopter is going. They
Speaker 3: run out to this giant, beautiful clearing waving down the helicopter.
Speaker 3: And it was always funny when like when a helicopter
Speaker 3: goes by and people are yelling at it, like you know,
Speaker 3: that thing can't fuck.
Speaker 2: They can't hear you no way, No, no, you get
Speaker 2: you get even.
Speaker 3: Really once you're on a helicopter, can you have conversations
Speaker 3: back and forth with him? No, you need like the
Speaker 3: radio exactly exactly. So unfortunately it flies right past them. Uh,
Speaker 3: and Ballot Bawlin's like, well, they got to come back.
Speaker 3: He's like nope, and he's like, basal protocol. They already
Speaker 3: cleared this area, they didn't find anything. They won't be
Speaker 3: coming back, so we have to make our way to
Speaker 3: the river. So after this point we basically uh see
Speaker 3: them head off and they head back to their their uh,
Speaker 3: their path to the river. They lost the squirrels, so
Speaker 3: now we're gonna try to find another way to catch
Speaker 3: some food. They're gonna use some kind of like uh
Speaker 3: they use a link of the chain of the watch
Speaker 3: that he got, And it's kind of fun. I like
Speaker 3: seeing this part of the movie with them using things
Speaker 3: on them to do the survival that nothing else, nothing else,
Speaker 3: nothing else. This is like which one was, uh, which
Speaker 3: one was literally was it man versus while he was
Speaker 3: just dropped with nothing or was that survival man? Which
Speaker 3: one was the tea?
Speaker 2: I can't remember.
Speaker 3: One of them was like he was just completely dropped.
Speaker 3: I think it was man verse will with nothing but
Speaker 3: this close on his I.
Speaker 2: Remember one, Yeah, I remember one of the guys faked something.
Speaker 1: That was that, the one with the He's like, there's
Speaker 1: this path lay of this rock and it's fun. It's
Speaker 1: like made out of buck and it's very very uh unstable,
Speaker 1: and you can collapse and he jumps on.
Speaker 2: He's like, okay, I'm okay, that would have been bad.
Speaker 1: And then it cuts like a real guy who went
Speaker 1: to the same place and he just walks on it
Speaker 1: normally and the caravan's over there's like a huge highway.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That that was man versus.
Speaker 3: What was his whole thing was teach you how to
Speaker 3: survive in those scenarios. He wasn't actually surviving in those scenarios. Uh.
Speaker 3: The survival man went into a scenario with a camera
Speaker 3: and was trying to actually stay the night and live
Speaker 3: man versuall, which is they would film on location and
Speaker 3: then he would just stay at a like holiday.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Not that you should expect any of those to
Speaker 2: be real, no, no, But so.
Speaker 3: He ends up creating a fishing lure from the chain
Speaker 3: and a like thorn or some shit like that from
Speaker 3: a from a tree branch or whatever, and they're in
Speaker 3: their way and they're trying to catch a fish. Uh
Speaker 3: and I be damn it, that bear don't show up again. Yea,
Speaker 3: that goddamn bear.
Speaker 2: It just won't leave them alone.
Speaker 3: Now, no, Lotan, this monster won't.
Speaker 2: It's like jewels. It's jewels with clothes. Apparently.
Speaker 3: I will say this movie like it's funny, like you
Speaker 3: could low key like you know how like uh like
Speaker 3: the Italians or like with like like the LaCosta series.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like not like La Costa.
Speaker 3: One, LaCosta two is evil Dead one evil that too,
Speaker 3: and then La Costa three is not anything to do
Speaker 3: with it. You can definitely like another Cony rebrand. This
Speaker 3: is like Grizzly three, because there is a Grizzly too
Speaker 3: with Martin Sheen. But you can definitely like pull this
Speaker 3: off as like in another country this could be called
Speaker 3: Grizzly three. But yeah, so they end up the bear
Speaker 3: comes right back and he basically chases Anthony Hopkins. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: this is when we get the branch c g I
Speaker 3: scenes where it's clearly not branches. But I mean it's
Speaker 3: not too bad.
Speaker 2: It's fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you know what's called it like, if you're
Speaker 3: watching it in like a really good version of it
Speaker 3: on VHS, you probably wouldn't pople tell the.
Speaker 1: Different I couldn't tell my VHS blown up onto a
Speaker 1: big four K TV look fine, look.
Speaker 2: Fine to me.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we get there this scene where it's really
Speaker 3: like we said earlier, like when prey, where like he's
Speaker 3: literally trapped down by the bear uh and he ends
Speaker 3: up breaking free, uh and he ends up running down
Speaker 3: uh to meet what with Bob And he's there right yeah,
Speaker 3: he's like, hey, mon Kella, because a mind kell he's
Speaker 3: got taste for flesh. Yes, he's been hunting us the
Speaker 3: whole time.
Speaker 1: That asshole at the bars or the cabin said, is
Speaker 1: coming true. God damn it, everything is coming true.
Speaker 3: So they do they do the whole big fire scene
Speaker 3: with like basically their campuses with fire all around it,
Speaker 3: so like to lure off the bear. So the next
Speaker 3: morning they're gonna basically they're they have this big scene
Speaker 3: where they're gonna be like, all right, well, what are
Speaker 3: we gonna do, Charles? We can't hunt? Well, what's called
Speaker 3: we can't We can't feed ourselves. It's it's hunting us.
Speaker 3: What are we gonna do And then that's when he
Speaker 3: comes up with like, we're gonna kill it.
Speaker 2: We're gonna kill it. Tell me you're gonna kill the math. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're gonna go. Well, one man could do an nothing
Speaker 2: can do. Well, I'm not gonna do another can do
Speaker 2: kill a bear?
Speaker 1: And I love one of my favorite quotes of all time,
Speaker 1: my favorite Anthony Hopkins quote of all time.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna kill the motherfucker. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I watched that as a seven year old. I'm like that,
Speaker 1: it's the coolest guy in the world.
Speaker 2: Boy, he said there.
Speaker 3: He's like, He's liked, well, what are we gonna do, Charles,
Speaker 3: how are you gonna kill this bear? We're gonna LuSE him.
Speaker 3: He's like, we're gonna what, We're gonna louse him? Well,
Speaker 3: how are we gonna lure him? He said there, He's like,
Speaker 3: he's like, in Africa, what's called they used to the
Speaker 3: pygmy kids used to smack the bears in the face
Speaker 3: and then they would bring them in to attack, to
Speaker 3: to tack them with a dead fall. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's how they did it.
Speaker 2: We gotta do it because they don't have a dead fall.
Speaker 3: So they come up with the idea. It's like, we're
Speaker 3: gonna create spears, We're gonna lure the bear into us,
Speaker 3: and then we're gonna kill it. Instead of it hunting us,
Speaker 3: we're gonna try to get it. Uh, we're trying to
Speaker 3: get it to like actually hunt us, but set a
Speaker 3: trap for it. So Charles and Bob end up creating
Speaker 3: this dead fall, like like the scenario where the bear.
Speaker 3: They're waiting for the bear to show up. He does
Speaker 3: show up as just like as I promise, they create
Speaker 3: this pendulum swing style like staked ball, which ends up
Speaker 3: setting off the trap. It goes right past the bear,
Speaker 3: but on the on the comeback actually follows through and
Speaker 3: hits the bear.
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 3: They send the bear down throughout the woods on this
Speaker 3: like little like path that they've already planned out to
Speaker 3: the point where they're going to then put be like
Speaker 3: their backs up against a big branch and that's where
Speaker 3: their spears are at, and you're ready for it before
Speaker 3: he can get there. Uh, Charles and Bob start fighting
Speaker 3: it and the bear gets Bob really good one. Yeah,
Speaker 3: which is crazy because like I don't like it's weird
Speaker 3: when you find out like how much damage a bear
Speaker 3: can actually do persons like actually bear videos like being attacked.
Speaker 3: It's like murder machine.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's it's weird.
Speaker 3: Literally, their claws literally go through skin like butter. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're so fucking strong, dude. I was looking at bear
Speaker 3: facts and like yeah, because Bart was like, that's grizzly
Speaker 3: Man after this. Oh no, I can't, I can't.
Speaker 2: You can't wait.
Speaker 3: Grizzly Man?
Speaker 2: Is that the is that the documentary? At the documentary? Now,
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 3: Why not because the video at the end they don't
Speaker 3: play it. Oh okay, Oh wait, do you think they
Speaker 3: actually played the murder? I've listened to it because it's
Speaker 3: only audio, it's not video.
Speaker 2: Well that's no.
Speaker 1: In the the audio is released ever, yeah, the documentary
Speaker 1: Sorry spoiler for grizzly Man, but the guy died.
Speaker 2: Uh No.
Speaker 1: The the documentary ends with Brener Herzog playing the audio
Speaker 1: for his girlfriend. But it's in her spit only she
Speaker 1: can hear it. You don't actually hear any of the
Speaker 1: audio or anything.
Speaker 3: No, the audios because we're of the audios, man, rease,
Speaker 3: I listened to it. It's been released by not in
Speaker 3: the documentary.
Speaker 1: No, the documentary, like we'ren't a Herzog literally in the
Speaker 1: documentary is like you should destroy this tape and never
Speaker 1: and then she released it anyway, but the actual documentary
Speaker 1: doesn't happen.
Speaker 3: Well, that's one thing. Is like some of the audio
Speaker 3: that they play in the movie where the bear's attacking
Speaker 3: Steve and it sounds like it sounds like fucking Reale.
Speaker 1: I think we're crizly Man is like when he keeps
Speaker 1: videotaping the bear that does eventually kill him, and you
Speaker 1: tell that bear is like not cool like the other bears,
Speaker 1: and it's just like that bear doesn't like you. You
Speaker 1: better like fuck off with that bear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 3: What's the dude, what was that movie? What's the movie
Speaker 3: with the family and all the fucking lines in their house?
Speaker 1: Oh roar, Yeah, with the famous actors they try to
Speaker 1: make up a and like there were so many on
Speaker 1: set injury.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they started filming the movie without actually having a
Speaker 3: script or anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was just like U rasonally.
Speaker 1: Man's good though, because you get to see like footage
Speaker 1: like the bears fighting and stuff, and they are they're
Speaker 1: pretty brutal.
Speaker 3: No, it's crazy, and like I think it h bart
Speaker 3: stood at twelve feet tall on his hind legs. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like I said, he's seventeen hundred pounds. I mean, it's ridiculous,
Speaker 3: and it's like it I was like this movie, like
Speaker 3: if you did do this today, there's no way they
Speaker 3: would have a real bear.
Speaker 2: No, no, no.
Speaker 3: But that's the reason why this movie is.
Speaker 1: Good is because they have a screened yeah yeah, and
Speaker 1: then poorly photo show poorly like cropped into the scene.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be a whole thing, but they would
Speaker 2: just motion capture it anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't know, it's it's just one of
Speaker 3: those things where it's like it's the that like this
Speaker 3: movie is exciting and fun, but I think when you
Speaker 3: think about those pivotal scenes in this especially this scene
Speaker 3: at the very end where we see a lot of
Speaker 3: bart and bright daylight with them attacking them and them
Speaker 3: fighting them off, Like those scenes are so beautifully shot,
Speaker 3: and yeah, it's it's a silly movie, but like that
Speaker 3: scene alone is like it's still a cool scene, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I mean, like the overall concept
Speaker 3: of the movie is funny and ridiculous, but that scene
Speaker 3: alone is like, oh no, there's some actually good shit here.
Speaker 3: But yeah, So Bob's down and a bear starts going
Speaker 3: after Charles, and Charles is able to complete the plan,
Speaker 3: stabs them right through the chan lands right on the spear,
Speaker 3: right on the spear. Bob gets up, thanks, Charles is dead, uh,
Speaker 3: because he's just sitting there. And then he finds out
Speaker 3: you know, Charles killed the bear. Yeah, which is you know,
Speaker 3: a really fun scene.
Speaker 2: I mean cut to them wearing the bear skin and
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, do they have the tools to do
Speaker 2: that in the knife? They have the knife, but don't
Speaker 2: you have to do something to the skin underneath, right you?
Speaker 2: What do they call it? Well?
Speaker 3: You have to you Well, first off, you have really
Speaker 3: to be able to wear it without it smelling and
Speaker 3: be stinky. You have to dry it out first. You
Speaker 3: can't just wear a carcass, a bear's carcass on you.
Speaker 3: I mean you five flies all over you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they like you have to skin it, but they
Speaker 2: have to you have to do something to it. But
Speaker 2: I don't think they have the materials.
Speaker 3: No, you would definitely the skin itself has to dry. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And to be honest, I don't know if that knife
Speaker 3: could do everything that they did. They really don't, or
Speaker 3: if they did or if they could, they are not
Speaker 3: equipped to knowing how to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. And they're eating the
Speaker 2: bear too, right, Yeah, well that's.
Speaker 3: You know, what's a really good Okay, a movie that
Speaker 3: does it really good? Is uh uh the was it
Speaker 3: the Wild?
Speaker 1: Just about the Christopher mccandles. Yeah, that's how he died.
Speaker 1: He tried to eat an elk or a moose or something.
Speaker 3: Well, he ate a plant and miss apparently misread the plant.
Speaker 3: He ate a poisonous plant that was not okay, But
Speaker 3: he tried.
Speaker 2: He tried to kill like an elk or kill it,
Speaker 2: but he.
Speaker 3: Couldn't salvage the meat before the flies got to and
Speaker 3: which was tainted. Because Zach Galanakis is in that who
Speaker 3: teaches it, Like I said, that's real, like that would happen.
Speaker 3: Like these guys are not hunters. They they aren't like
Speaker 3: they've never hunted anything in their life. But anyway, so yeah,
Speaker 3: they end up making new jackets.
Speaker 2: You kind of think unrealistic with the time frame, but
Speaker 2: we'll go with it. We'll just go with it. We'll
Speaker 2: go with it.
Speaker 3: They bear, they bear at the end, And it's funny
Speaker 3: because at one point where he's like, he's like, I
Speaker 3: really wish I had some salt. And he's like, you
Speaker 3: know what, you can season your food with gunpowder. I'm like,
Speaker 3: usually they give that to dogs to make them go crazy.
Speaker 3: I'm not too sure you can season your food with gunpowder.
Speaker 2: I mean you can, should you probably not? You can. Look,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of things you can do. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of things you should do. Well. The funny thing
Speaker 2: is all of Charles is saying you can jump over
Speaker 2: that railing right now. I'm not going to. Well.
Speaker 3: The thing is all the things that Charles, all of
Speaker 3: his sayings throughout this film, are completely useless for this
Speaker 3: scenario they're in, Like what my side hurts, go spit
Speaker 3: underneath the rock?
Speaker 2: What you know? You can make fire from ice? It's like,
Speaker 2: can you fuck you? Yeah you can?
Speaker 3: But like, I don't got any fucking ice right now? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Shut up?
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Read like a trivia book relaxed.
Speaker 3: So they end up making their way through the woods
Speaker 3: and they come across the cabin. Yeah there's a cabin.
Speaker 2: Was it the hunter's cabin?
Speaker 3: That I assumed that because the canoe it was new,
Speaker 3: it wasn't old canoe. Yeah, it didn't say it was,
Speaker 3: but I assumed that that was bear.
Speaker 2: Like I think, so I forget if it was that
Speaker 2: guy's cabin, that thing they never.
Speaker 3: Can I rewatched this morning. Nothing was confirmed, like there's
Speaker 3: no like in England, like actually he finds something that
Speaker 3: would have that person. But they did have a gun
Speaker 3: that was relatively like in good shape, two guns that
Speaker 3: were in good shape. So clearly it is somebody's cabin. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I think it was just maybe implied that was
Speaker 3: the bear the bear like cabin.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So they end up going in there and they start around.
Speaker 3: They start getting like the supplies and.
Speaker 2: Stuff like no phone or anything is no, no, no.
Speaker 3: There's no phone. There's a I mean, there's some medical stuff.
Speaker 3: There's a map. So they're able to find the actual
Speaker 3: lake that they need to get onto, and they find, oh,
Speaker 3: the lake will take us right to where we need
Speaker 3: to go. And we get the scene where Bob's like, well,
Speaker 3: how about we check make sure the canoe floats first.
Speaker 3: They go outside, they check the canoe and this is
Speaker 3: when Charles goes back inside and we get this weird
Speaker 3: look from Bob who looks.
Speaker 2: Back and you're like, are you then?
Speaker 3: And this is that the moviego, You're like, are you
Speaker 3: really going to try to fucking kill him? Yeah, you're
Speaker 3: really going to try to fucking kill them or something
Speaker 3: with the watch, right, we haven't met that yet. That's
Speaker 3: right before we find out about the watch. But we
Speaker 3: just first we get this weird look from Bob. They
Speaker 3: go inside, and then we get the watch scene where
Speaker 3: he he's opening up. I guess he's trying to use
Speaker 3: a Oh. I think he's gonna try to make some tea,
Speaker 3: so he need to burn something. So he's gonna burn
Speaker 3: the paper from the uh, from inside the case that
Speaker 3: held the knife. It's the receipt from the watch. Yeah,
Speaker 3: both watches, Bob's new watch and it and it says,
Speaker 3: uh to Bob from Mickey for.
Speaker 2: All the nights, lady, don't.
Speaker 3: You're just trying to get called.
Speaker 2: Don't get your husband and your like side piece, Uh
Speaker 2: the same. Why what are you doing? What are you doing? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Not a good plan.
Speaker 3: That's like people that cheat on like Facebook Messenger and
Speaker 3: just don't delete them because like they'll never go my
Speaker 3: Facebook Messenger.
Speaker 2: They're kind of going. College Tony ran into this issue.
Speaker 1: College Tony ran into like they're not gonna go through
Speaker 1: my Facebook message spoilers.
Speaker 2: So that's what we learn.
Speaker 1: Don't engrave your watch when you're having an affair and
Speaker 1: lock out a Facebook messenger.
Speaker 2: So Bob comes back in. He's drinking.
Speaker 3: He finds a thing of whiskey or something. He starts
Speaker 3: drinking it, pounding it back kind of fast, and the
Speaker 3: gears are turning and Charles is like, hey, uh, Bob,
Speaker 3: let me see your watch. He's like, I told you
Speaker 3: it's busted.
Speaker 2: And then.
Speaker 3: It's like Bob just starts going on this weird little
Speaker 3: tangent for like no reason, like he's irritated about something,
Speaker 3: and it is kind of cool. Like I will say,
Speaker 3: this movie is is ridiculous, but they did do good
Speaker 3: job at editing because we see Bob put two bullets
Speaker 3: into the gunyah at the end when he anthiopics discharges
Speaker 3: the gun, he really just discharges two bullets. That's pretty
Speaker 3: good call for a movie like this, Like they did
Speaker 3: pay it a little bit attention to detail. But he's like,
Speaker 3: let me see your watch, he's like, and then that's
Speaker 3: when he goes off and he's like, I don't even
Speaker 3: know why she's with you.
Speaker 2: How did you get her? How did you get her?
Speaker 2: And I would not be thinking about any of this shit.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Two men just died. I just got a fucking bear.
Speaker 2: I want to go home.
Speaker 3: And well, this is when he gets the balls and
Speaker 3: he's like, he's like, he's gonna kill him. He's loading
Speaker 3: the gun and fucking Charles just like he's like, what,
Speaker 3: you can't do it? Sober? He's like, all right, Charles,
Speaker 3: gots on, got.
Speaker 2: So on, don't look at me, don't look at me.
Speaker 3: And he takes him outside and he goes to fucking
Speaker 3: fucking kill Charles with the gun.
Speaker 1: You had so many opportunities to like kill him in
Speaker 1: the wilderness, and you already do the gun, which will
Speaker 1: be whoever owns that gun will be like, yeah, it
Speaker 1: did fire off around I wasn't here though, so it
Speaker 1: must have been those guys. Well.
Speaker 3: He also, if you notice, he takes all of his
Speaker 3: clothes off and puts that jacket on that's in there,
Speaker 3: So I don't know if he like, I don't know
Speaker 3: why he takes all his bear skin stuff off and
Speaker 3: to put that jacket on, like maybe like like like
Speaker 3: he wasn't there. I don't know, so, but yeah, and
Speaker 3: it's funny because before this we did see Anthony Hopkins
Speaker 3: like look at the ground. For some reason, we don't
Speaker 3: know what he was looking and he's just staring at
Speaker 3: the ground. Well, uh, I guess while Charles is too
Speaker 3: busy pussy footing around on actually killing sorry, while Bob,
Speaker 3: while Bob is actually worried about like killing Charles. He
Speaker 3: backs up and falls right into the death trap.
Speaker 2: Yep, there was a dead fall there. He's like, oh, Charles,
Speaker 2: oh god, cha can't take my legs broken. You can't
Speaker 2: ask for help for the guy you were just trying
Speaker 2: to kill. Like Luckily, Anthony Hopkins is nice, child is nice. Fine,
Speaker 2: He like, ah, like I'd be like, okay, this one's on.
Speaker 2: They Oh my Chiles.
Speaker 3: It's so funny because it's just like really, dude, like
Speaker 3: you just tried to kill him. But yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3: Anthony Hopkins is like, you know, all right, we're gonna
Speaker 3: get out here. We're gonna get out of here. He
Speaker 3: goes down there, pulls him out, He suites his wound.
Speaker 3: I mean, he is clearly well he.
Speaker 2: Pulls the thing out of him, right, Yeah, don't do that.
Speaker 3: Now you're supposed to that and you can break it off.
Speaker 3: I know you're supposed to leave because once you pull
Speaker 3: it out, whatever is keeping some of the bloody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that leaks out like arrows and stuff like,
Speaker 1: you can cut the arrow, but don't pull it out because.
Speaker 2: You're in it.
Speaker 1: You have to be in a hospital. They need to
Speaker 1: clamp sat down. You can't just be like, oh, let
Speaker 1: me just pull this out. Actually, the clown in the
Speaker 1: Cornfield movie did that pretty funny recently where he gets
Speaker 1: stabbed in the neck of the docks, like, no, don't
Speaker 1: pull it out.
Speaker 3: He's like, come on, So he is like saving him.
Speaker 3: He gets he sutures his wound or whatever. Uh, and
Speaker 3: he puts them on the canoe and he ends up
Speaker 3: basically trying to survive, you know, serve continue to survive
Speaker 3: and save both of them and end up heading down
Speaker 3: the river and they get to this like little clearing
Speaker 3: area where uh we see a helicopter. The helicopter shows
Speaker 3: up and you know, we get Charles. He's basically he's like, Bob,
Speaker 3: we made it, we got it. Hold on one second,
Speaker 3: I'll be right back. Runs after the helicopter and he's
Speaker 3: almost going to fly away, but it turns right back around,
Speaker 3: comes down. He goes back to get Charles. Uh, sorry,
Speaker 3: Charles going back to get Bob.
Speaker 2: Bob's dead.
Speaker 3: Bob's dead, Bob is dead. This this scene reminds me
Speaker 3: of like, oh my god, have you ever seen Midnight Cowboy?
Speaker 3: I think I have, but I'm not enough to recall
Speaker 3: with Dustin Hoffman. Yeah, what's ANTHONYA. Jolie? What's her death name?
Speaker 2: John boy John boyd. Yeah, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: There's a scene where, like at the end of that movie,
Speaker 3: it's the same thing, like they're trying to get somewhere.
Speaker 3: So because Dustin Hoffman's sick with the flu.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he dies it. Seinfeld made fun of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where Cramer gets the nose fleet again and he's
Speaker 1: hugging it.
Speaker 3: Oh but yeah, so the helicopter comes back around, we
Speaker 3: get Charles. One thing Bob does say before he dies,
Speaker 3: he tells Charles, I want you to know Mickey had
Speaker 3: nothing to do with any this.
Speaker 2: This is all on me. And uh, we get Charles.
Speaker 3: He goes back to he goes into back to the
Speaker 3: lake and everybody's there, news is fucking there and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, and they're all asking him, you know, well,
Speaker 3: how do you survive?
Speaker 2: How did you how did you survive.
Speaker 3: And he basically does a good person thing and he's
Speaker 3: just like says, like, you know, I survived because they
Speaker 3: saved me. Yeah, they saved me. That's how I survive
Speaker 3: the ones that are you know, dead, Yeah, oh whatever,
Speaker 3: And the movie ends, cut credits.
Speaker 2: Beautiful. Great movie. Great movie. Maybe not the most realistic.
Speaker 2: Don't take any advice for this movie if you're stuck
Speaker 2: in the wild Uh, but no, per I love this movie.
Speaker 2: Every time we put it on, I have a good time.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 2: It's a great movie because he is as a man.
Speaker 3: You're like, I want to be out in the wilderness
Speaker 3: and stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm stuck inside all day. I want to go fight
Speaker 2: a bear.
Speaker 3: Well, like I said, this movie and Ghosts in the Darkness, Uh,
Speaker 3: Ghosts and the Darkness ghost Yeah, and the Darkness.
Speaker 2: Don't worry. I made the same mistake. Don't worry. I
Speaker 2: kept saying Ghosts in the Darkness.
Speaker 3: Those two movies are so fun. Yeah, it's it's just
Speaker 3: like it's like I said, you put it on and
Speaker 3: you're gonna have a good time. Yes, it's it does
Speaker 3: have like a crazy, like high brow plot, but it's
Speaker 3: just fun.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: It's it's and I oh see.
Speaker 3: You know this movie didn't really make a lot of
Speaker 3: money when they made it. Then if they remade it,
Speaker 3: well did did the great?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 3: Did that go to theaters?
Speaker 2: So that was great on the theaters. I saw it
Speaker 2: in theaters. Great is really good. I was disappointed with
Speaker 2: the ending.
Speaker 1: M hm. Did one of those like it ended like
Speaker 1: right when a big fight was about to happen. It
Speaker 1: it makes sense for the story, the story they were telling,
Speaker 1: like I understood it. But when all the advertisements were
Speaker 1: Nikola uh yeah, Liam Neeson, yeah getting ready you thought
Speaker 1: you were getting That's the problem with the advertisement. If
Speaker 1: I never saw the advertisements in I'd be like, beautiful movie,
Speaker 1: great ambiguous ending. But the advertisers just like he's gonna
Speaker 1: fight that wolf, like yeah that he get there, like
Speaker 1: there's no fight, damn damn.
Speaker 2: But it's a similar idea.
Speaker 1: Uh they crash, wolves are hunting them. So I mean
Speaker 1: they do fight some of the wolves and killed the
Speaker 1: wolves and it's picking.
Speaker 2: Them off one by one. Uh so yeah, that's probably
Speaker 2: the closest thing I've seen to the edge. Yeah in
Speaker 2: modern time. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean these like I I would say
Speaker 3: it like these movies, these kind of thrillers are just there.
Speaker 3: There's a lot in the nineties that I really want
Speaker 3: to do and like not that and not that aren't
Speaker 3: like Animal really like I love Single White Female, That
Speaker 3: Moyvie's fantastic. That's a really good movie. Yeah, Fatal Attraction,
Speaker 3: Basic inst All, those are good. Uh, those kind of
Speaker 3: just like like good like even like, uh, this is
Speaker 3: like two thousands ish, but like you know, Unfaithful that's.
Speaker 2: A great man. That was a good one, great one.
Speaker 3: Thrillers just it sucks because like I don't know how
Speaker 3: this movie will do as far on the channel. But like,
Speaker 3: movies like this are really fun to talk about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're great, They're great, and I feel like we
Speaker 2: need more of them. I agree.
Speaker 3: I like, like I love my horror, but really a
Speaker 3: good thriller, Like the last really good thriller I saw
Speaker 3: was the Liam Neilson one, The Head Above the Tombstones
Speaker 3: or something like that.
Speaker 1: Oh, Walk Amongst the Tumbes amongst Yeah, I watched that once.
Speaker 1: I remember liking it. I can't remember too much about it.
Speaker 3: It's basically him trying to find a serial killer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's trying to find a serial killer. He's got
Speaker 1: like a little black kid that he's helping. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: remember that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, great, David Harbor.
Speaker 3: Was he the bad guy?
Speaker 2: He was? He was?
Speaker 3: I think it was two bad guys. I think because
Speaker 3: he was one of them. In order for the murders
Speaker 3: to happen, they needed two people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's I don't know. I just feel like,
Speaker 3: like I agree with you, like we need we need
Speaker 3: more of these kind of style movies.
Speaker 2: And I'm like man versus Nature ones. I like them.
Speaker 3: They're fun. Yeah, And I mean really, that's all I say.
Speaker 3: You have any closing comments you want to.
Speaker 1: Make, I just you know, I really relate to the
Speaker 1: scene in the movie where he thinks everyone forgot his birthday,
Speaker 1: and I'm feeling it now.
Speaker 2: I just feel like you forgot this episode from you
Speaker 2: know what, Tony?
Speaker 3: What the crazy thing about that it is September nineteenth? Yes,
Speaker 3: and that is your birthday?
Speaker 2: Uh huh?
Speaker 3: And you know what, although you did not forget your birthday?
Speaker 3: WHOA what better way to spend your birthday on talking
Speaker 3: about one of your favorite movies.
Speaker 1: I can't, but I was wondering what those candles burning
Speaker 1: were the whole time. Underneath the table. I thought you
Speaker 1: were just very unsafe and enjoy fire hazards. I didn't
Speaker 1: know all this is amazing.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Happy birthday, Tony. You know, thank you.
Speaker 1: On my birthday, people usually hijack my channel or anything,
Speaker 1: so I have to escape to someone else's channel to
Speaker 1: actually do a birthday for few.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Okay, I made a wish hold
Speaker 2: on Sydney. I was I wish for Cidney Swaeney. Maybe
Speaker 2: it don't come true later, we don't know when they're
Speaker 2: supposed to go.
Speaker 3: I think there's a time limit.
Speaker 2: I think fate is putting the wheels in motion for
Speaker 2: me to meet her. And that's it. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: I wish just take a lot of energy so the
Speaker 3: University's did like he's a like you know, like like
Speaker 3: pull all that energy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it'll work out. But no, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: And this is great to hang out with you talking
Speaker 2: about the Edge. I fucking love the Edge.
Speaker 3: All right, Tony, Tell everybody where they can find it.
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Speaker 3: All right, that's it for today's episode sixty seven The Edge,
Speaker 3: directed by Lee Tomilhorre. Thanks for stopping by hanging out
Speaker 3: with us. Let us know in the comments. Have you
Speaker 3: seen the movie?
Speaker 2: Did you like it?
Speaker 3: And maybe what new Man versus Nature movie you want
Speaker 3: to see us review next. But until next time, I'm logan,
Speaker 3: I'm turning from hacking movies and thanks for renting from
Speaker 3: the villa year