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let's dive in to today's episode. I like to welcome

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to the show.

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Speaker 2: Ho.

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Speaker 1: Hey, okay, how.

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Speaker 2: You doing doing well? Alex? Thank you very much for

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inviting me.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you so much for coming on the show. Sir,

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you are the first Cuban I've had on the show.

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You are the very first. Give I have a six

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hundred and something episodes. You are the first Cuban other

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than me, of course, being on the show in every episode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm the second one. You're the first one.

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Speaker 1: I'm the first giving you are.

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Speaker 3: You are second generation. I'm actually fresh Cuban, made and

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assembling in Cuba itself.

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Speaker 1: But I am purebread, so I have both my parents

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cure pure bread.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I am a pup.

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Speaker 1: I'm a pure bread. I'm not a mix so but

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I am. Yes, I'm first, I'm first generation a year,

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born a year, but uh, but raised in Miami, so

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it's kind of close, right.

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Speaker 3: So Miami is like Havannah, North Havana. You know, it's

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like it's like most popular or most Cuban city in

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the world. Besides how yes, it's definitely important for us.

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Speaker 1: But my friend, I'm so glad you here. You're here.

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I wanted to I wanted to have you one because

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I've had another astrologers on, but I have not had

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an astrologer from your perspective, from the Latin American kind

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of angle of it, what kind of astrology do you

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actually practice or study?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so within the astrology we have different schools, and uh,

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within that school there are specializations like for example, my

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school is called Hellenistic or traditional astrology, so it's basically, uh,

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it's more rooted into second century till the seventh century

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type of astrology, the traditional, very conservative astrology. And within

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that school I have my specialty is actually elective astrology.

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You know, I'm a little bit nervous right now. Okay,

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so this is a big deal to be in your show.

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So I'm kind of struggling because of that because I'm

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excited to.

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Speaker 1: Trunk. Relax. It's all good, brother, don't worry about it. Here,

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you're with family, my friend.

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Speaker 2: You're.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. So Elective astrology is basically a branch. No,

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it's not a branch, it's actually a practice or a

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technique where we find of specious time to schedule things

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to do, things to close a business, to open a business. Also,

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I specialize in astro cartography, which is relocational astrology, finding

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the best places in the world where you can actually

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take advantage of the energy depending on the area of

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your life that you want to improve. That's actually more

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like a falls more into the modern type of astrology,

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a modern technique more than anything, and electional astrology, which

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is finding auspicious time for anything. You know, from the

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very beginning of astrology, one of the main purpose of

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astrologery is actually forecasting, you know, kings and the powerful.

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we're going to be able to win a war, or

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make an important decision or avoid certain things. So the

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astrology job at that time was actually forecasting finding the

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right time and also the right the right people to

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feed in for whatever project, the powerful, the novel, the king,

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whatever was was about to start.

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Speaker 3: So, electional astrology is basically preparing for for the best

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time to start or to stop doing something that was

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also the exit is also very important. Now Hellenistic astrology. Uh,

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the difference between the Hellenistic astrology and the modern school

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is basically that we we give to the aspects of

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the planet. We give in certain occasions we give a

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very narrow orb, which is a distance of one planet

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to another to form an angle. At the same time,

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we also have another you know, we have an ample

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option because the degrees was was actually something implemented later on.

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treat the angles, and we consider with certain skepticism the

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modern planets like Pluto, Pluto, Neptune, and Uranus. So those

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are planets that we do pay attention to, but we

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don't give them the importance the weight of the traditional planets,

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or for example, we don't provide we don't give them

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a rulership to a specific sign like I'll give you

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an example, a Neptune. The modern austrology call it the

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ruler of Pizis. For example. We do consider Neptune, but

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we don't give them rulership or Uranus is the rule

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of Aquarius. But we respect that, we observe that, but

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there is not enough time to give the enough weight

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that we assigned to Saturn as the traditional ruler of

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Aquarius like for example, or another example will be uh brutal.

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three hundred years. Astrology is a millionary uh uh millionary science.

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attention to Mars as the rule of Scorpion instead of Plu.

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Speaker 2: Now we do keep him in check.

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Speaker 3: We do pay attention to those planets, but again as

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a psychic to to provide context, not necessarily to give

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the full weight regarding also, for example, one of the

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things that we differentiate maybe from the traditional or the

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modern astrologers is that although other practices like the road

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and other divine or occultest practices, we see more astrology

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as a scientific or as a science. If you if

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you google it or you check and chudgept whatever you

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want use. What would be the definition of a science

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is basically the study through time, through our senses of

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an object. Those findings must be documented and they have

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to be reproducible. And I always explain that that astrology

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feed that criteria perfectly well. Because history is actually like

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a blockchain for us. You can quote any war, any

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any any any problems in the world, or any great event.

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And we're always going to find a similar pattern with

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planets and and and the different type of relationship with

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between these planets malefical benefics that that confirm that astrology

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is actually reproducible, that is actually real. As a matter

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of fact, that's another thing that I always explained, we

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are not psychics.

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Speaker 2: We are actually like a musician reading.

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Speaker 3: A chart, like like a like a party of musical notes,

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and that those notes or that bulletin board is actually

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published by the creator on the on the heavens and

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on the sky, and we read that chart. And the

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reason why we can predict what is going to happen

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is because we have seen the same part and repeating

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in the past, producing those results over and over and over.

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this year or this month or whatever time period, something

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similar is going to happen. Now, yes, there are.

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Speaker 2: You know. I think that astrology also.

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Speaker 3: Brings a perspective that there is a creator, And probably

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that's why other practices, spiritual practices or cult practices include astrology,

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because one of the key things that astrology has.

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Speaker 2: Is that it proves.

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Speaker 3: By amazement that there is a creator.

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Speaker 3: And one of the wonderful things about that is that

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you can see that there is a synchronicity, a relationship

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between charts, like for example, events are happening for the

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life of a child is reflected on the parents' chart,

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and vice versa, and with your spouse. So how come

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we can see that connectivity or that synchronicity between the

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charts of the relatives if there is no a supreme

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intelligence coordinating everything. I think that that's the reason why

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the late eighteen seventeen hundreds Australia was Buddha side. You know,

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there's in Europe the rationalism and giving more importance to

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the to free will and and the reason Buddhasia astrology

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because one of the things that that science does is

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actually that confirms that it has to be a creator.

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There is no random thing. Our life is actually very

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well coordinated and arrange in a way that has a purpose.

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That's another point of Hellenistic astrology astrology. We do a

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lot of emphasis in the eternal argument of free will

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or fate. What is the real thing you know, hellenistic

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astrology will be more fatalistic in the sense that we

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don't believe in random or that you have the option

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to overcome or take that as a challenge and you

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can turn it into a complete turnaround. We're more fatalistic

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in the sense that what we see in a chart

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basically describe your potentiality and also your capacities and your

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free will is limited by your ability, the one that

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is reflected on the chart, so there is no deviation

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that you you can actually become yourself. Let's say a

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sport start a sport a start when you actually are

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not built for that. One of the things that I

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actually I actually explaining my in my YouTube channel is

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that when you are born, that NATO charge uh that

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is reflected on the sky, that at that moment that

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is reflected on the sky is like a software configuration

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or a software that is done load or firmware that

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is injected into you, and that gives you all the

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potentiality or capacity that you have to become whatever you are.

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Speaker 2: The more you.

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Speaker 3: Become acquainted, comfortable accept your true nature, the one that

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you were designed for, the happier you become and the

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more successful you become. Instead of fighting what you don't

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like about your life, you just use what works and

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then try to understand the reasons on why you were

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conditioned maybe not to perform as well in another areas.

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It's sometimes I even use movies. I like to use

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a lot of metaphors to explain how that works. For example,

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Matrix the first part?

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Speaker 1: Stop insulting me, sir, please stop insulting me. I talk

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about The Matrix on this show constantly. Of course, I've

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seen that.

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Speaker 2: It's my favorite movie.

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Speaker 3: Well, I watch it over and over because the more

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I watch it, the more I discover things. But there

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is a there is an important thing that I connect

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with astrology, and I'll tell you what it is. The

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moment that Neil goes and talks to the oracle and

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she takes out of the out of her persont candy

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and tells him do you want candy?

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Speaker 1: And that would be the That would be part two,

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by the way, just so it's part too. That's part

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two on the bench right before they start fighting with

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mister Smith. Sorry, you're walking you're walking into my world now,

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my friend. Movies, Oh, yes, that's part two. It's very

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clear and a very important scene in his right.

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Speaker 3: Neil told her, listen, if you really if you're an oracle,

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you know why? I mean, you know if if I

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will take the candidate or not? And she als, of

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course I know, otherwise I wouldn't be a good oracle.

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make a decision to take it or not. You came

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here to understand why you made that decision. The same

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thing happens with Australia, and that's the perspective of Hellenistic astrology.

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but to understand why we are designed the way we

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Speaker 2: And he has a connection with yeah, let me stop.

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Speaker 1: Let me stop you there for a second. It because

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when you're saying you're designed the way you're designed is

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an idea that I talk about on the show a lot,

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which is like you and I are not going to

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play in the NFL or in the NBA. We weren't

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designed to do that. That's that physically we don't have

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the attributes to do that. I'm not gonna be an

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astronautic because I can't do math. Basically, you know, it's

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not something I was done, But what I am designed

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to do is what I'm doing, whether it be this

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show or movies or content or you know, creating media

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or things like that. That is what I was designed

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to communication, exact mass communication. That's kind of what I

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was designed to do, and I was given skill sets

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to do that. Could I try to do those other things, sure,

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but I'm not gonna get far because I'm just not

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built that way. I'm never gonna be Arnold Schwarzenegger. You know,

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I'm never gonna be a bodybuilder because my genetics doesn't

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carry that. I could probably do as far as I can,

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but there is a limit. So when you're saying fatalistic

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in regards to your chart, what I find fascinating about

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that is that we all have this blueprint that we're

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laid out with and there things that will and this

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kind of goes into the near death experience sole blueprint

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idea where on the other side, you choose I'm going

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to be this person. I'm gonna be that person, I'm

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gonna have this parent, I'm gonna be born in this

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culture at this specific time in history because I'm getting

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ready for whatever I want to experience that And I

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kind of understand that idea because just looking back at history,

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I'm like, well, I wonder what it would have been

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like to be in Rome. I wonder what it would

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have been like to be growing up in the fifties.

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You know, these kind of these kinds of ideas. So

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I kind of understand that. But the idea is that

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you're thrown into these in this environment, and certain things

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you have no choice over. There's because we all have

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free will, but there's certain things. So I didn't have

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quote unquote a choice once I got here, where I lived,

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who my parents were in this world. On the other side,

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I had the choice of what I wanted, but once

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I got here, It's exactly what you're just saying with

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Neo and the Oracle. You now have to understand why

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you chose this path and why these things are happening

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to you. So a lot of things that have up

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to you, whether they be relationships, whether they be accidents,

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whether they be trauma, whether they be super you know

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you're super wealthy, you're born into a super billionaire family,

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or you're born dirt poor. You have to understand why

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you were put in those scenarios and then kind of

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just the only thing we have control of is how

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we react to these situations and circumstances that life gives us.

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And I do believe that we can overcome certain things.

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But I can overcome my parents, parents are my parents.

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I can't overcome that I was born in you know,

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in South Florida. That's just what I want. There's nothing

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I can overcome there. Those are just facts. But could

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I change things? There is there's in my opinion, and

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please correct me, there is kind of a a little

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bit of guardrails up, but there is space for you

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to bump around within that scenario. Does that make sense

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to you?

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Speaker 3: It makes sense, And later on we're going to connect

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it also with life experience, instance and diagnosis. But yes,

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the reason, yes, there are things that you cannot and

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there are all the things that become actually a super

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power after you become a stronger. I give you an example, Cairn.

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In your chart, it might it might reflected the wound

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that you might be fighting your whole life to fifty.

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But then when you become fifteen, you have your first

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and your last hole as you become a vampire or

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something like that. But once you become fifty, that actually

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that return of Cairo becomes your superpower. Is like before

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it was something to what is hurting you very much,

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and then it becomes the greatest gift that the God

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assigned to your life. Yes, you have to work it

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out and become a master in that area. That's one

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example I like to explain that. The point is that

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in this life astrology astrology cannot describe what is happening

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before your life, this present life, and in the future

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in another plan, you know, another life after this one

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as surely it is about this world right now. And

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I totally agree with you that before we are incarnated,

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we have absolute free will, well not absolute, but more

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like absolute free will. And I will explain why I say,

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I don't think this is absolute. But once you come

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down here, you have to work your contract. So that's

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that's another thing that I always this like. For example,

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I use names or metaphors to describe what is a

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natal chart, Like I call it the the script that

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you're about to perform, your your contract for this life,

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the software that was installed, a letter that is opening

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opening up a little but a little.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: The the older you become, I want to connect that

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to past life. For example, one of the things that

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I always explain is that astrology cannot uh describe anything

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else from another world because there is no confirmation that

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is actually reality.

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Speaker 1: Will be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's black and white. There is no connection,

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a real connection between astrology and another philosophy of life

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or religion. That's something that we add on later on

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because it's black and white. But there are answers that

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are not in a chart. And then we need to justify.

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You're trying to find out why, for example, a person

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is not born with a lot more luck, why his

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life or her life is so challenging. Well, that might

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be coming from another life, but astrology itself cannot show

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you that. Now, there is another school of astrology called

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evolutionary astrology that actually tries to find those missing links

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with all the lives, but we don't have a real

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scientific information. When I say scientific is that it has

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to be really documented and reproduced through time. So evolutionary

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astronomy we have to assume that what they're saying is true.

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But nobody had come from another life to come from

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you right, you are having these aspects in your chart

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because you carrying on some duties from the previous life.

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Now regarding the other life experiences, one of the things

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that happened to me before I actually became became public

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as an astrologer is that I passed past a year

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long in a therapy course or and my last class,

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my last three months was actually trans personal hypnosis. And

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it took me completely by surprise, because by nature I

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am very skeptical. You know, I have mercury in aquarius.

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I need to find out everything before I actually accept

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it as a fact. So I'm like Saint Thomas, I

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need to test in order to believe. And one of

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the things that happened in one of those experiences is

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that I actually had the opportunity, and that's the most

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beautiful memory that I have from my past live regression

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to plan my life in the in the in that

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time of between lives, right, I had the experience of planning,

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and I remember that I actually was selecting or trying

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to argue with that light being that was actually instructing me.

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Speaker 2: I called that light being.

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Speaker 3: Uh, my master. I was actually to select some experiences

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that I didn't want to live, and some of them

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were allowed me to skip, but some of them basically

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this being told me, no, you have to go through it.

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Speaker 2: So in a.

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Speaker 3: Previous life or in between lives you have I can

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say that, based on my personal experience, you have the

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freedom to choose some of the things that are the

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themes that you're going to experience in.

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Speaker 2: In this uh, in this time. But once you get in,

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once you come.

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Speaker 3: Back here, uh, the condition is already set up. And

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I believe that the chart is actually uh the software

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that is install of the contract that you signed before

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you were born. Then to perform here, to to develop

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it over here makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes it.

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Speaker 3: I see it like like over here, we are limited

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by the abilities and the contract that we signed before

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we came here, before we came Astrology itself doesn't tell

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you that. I'm assuming that that's the way, because I

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also had another experience where I can actually saw that

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we have some some level of choosing, some some capacity

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of choosing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask you how old is this version

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of astrology, because this is a this is an arm

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of it that I have not I've not heard of.

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Speaker 3: It is actually the oldest version of astrology. Hellenistic astrology

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is the blend of Babylonian, Egyptian and Greek traditions and

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it developed between the second century before Christ till seventh

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centuries after Christ. You know our era, but it's actually

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the most documented, well known uh, and the oldest form

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of astrology from there, from those roots, at least in

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the Western world. Because there is another type of astrology

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which is obviously connected to us, but their brand child

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with their own flavor, which is a vertic astrology.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: In our astrology, Yeah, Butanese astrology is not connected to ours.

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Speaker 2: Like vertic astrology is very similar. It's the same.

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Speaker 3: Root, but they have different different perspectives, like for example,

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they we give more importance to the ascendant. They give

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more importance to the to the moon, to the moon sign.

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They have all the things that probably we lost because

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of the Christian in positions through the culture. Like for example,

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we have a technique that was recently, very recently discovered

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or translated into the modern world which is actually very antique.

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It's called so diaker releasing is a technique of timing

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where basically they we can actually see important events that

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are happening in your life like a schedule day by day,

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week by week, month by month, or year by year.

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They're very castralogy because they did not have this problem

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with Christianity. They've flourished and they have something similar to

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what we call so diaker releasing, but it's a lot

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more developed and.

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Speaker 2: More accurate.

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Speaker 3: If you want, I don't, I don't record right now

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the name of that technique.

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Speaker 2: I know the name is just right now.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't come to my mind, but it's similar to that,

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so that I a releasing and and I think that

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it was lost or they gradated a lot because of

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the burning of libraries and persecutions, so anyone that thought

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differently through throughout the two thousand years of Christianity. But

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astrology itself, that the Hellenistic astrology is actually the more

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the oldest version of austrology that we have, and from

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there we have new branches like psychological astrology, we have

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evolutionary astrology, astro cartography. All those are techniques or a

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school of austrology that are actually more recent. You know,

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it's more it's more in tune to the New Age

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type of world. And it's also mixed up sometimes a

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lot of times with more spiritual disciplines. Hellenistic tends to be,

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although it does not reject the spiritual world and other disciplines.

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Hele Anistic Australia had to be more into the more pure.

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If you want, it's not a we our best. That

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doesn't mean that. It means that we are more like

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restrictive in what we include, more conservative. Put it the

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way for a planet or anything as surely to be

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considered respected, we have to have a lot of centuries evidence,

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a lot of a study and observation through our many

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centric antic astrology is a millionary discipline. The modern Australia

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and the modern disciplines are more like maybe two hundred,

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three hundred years, maybe less.

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Speaker 1: But I asked this to other astrologers. I wanted to

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ask you, have you ever gone back to a master

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and followed their charts. So obviously we don't know exactly

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when Jesus was born, okay, I use him, or Buddha

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was born. We don't have those numes. But we have

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someone like Yoga Nanda or many of these other yogic

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you know, being that were masters while they were year

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but they were in recent times, within the last hundred years.

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They were alive, so there is actual records of when

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they were born. Have you ever just done the exercise

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to go back to a master and kind of got

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see what the stars were saying and if it like.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, specifically Jesus Christ or Jesus.

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Speaker 1: Because we don't what's the day, what's the date?

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Speaker 3: Well, the exact day we don't have, but for example,

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we have an important date, which is the day of

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the crucifixion. And that's the reason why we can actually

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go back to the date is because the Gospels has

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actually described what happened. You know, there was an eclipse,

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it was before passover. There are clues and science Israel

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they use a moon calendar. We can see which one

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was the date or the time that this was happening.

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I don't recall exactly the time because that is study.

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Actually did it a couple of years ago and haven't

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touched it again. But I remember when I actually was

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reading the chart of the time of the moment of

478
00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:11,359
the crucifixion, I had a mixed reaction of excitement, euphoria, laughed, laughter,

479
00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:14,480
I was laughing like crazy and crying at the same

480
00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:20,079
time of excitement. Because my background is actually Christian dogmatic.

481
00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:22,359
I started to be a Catholic priest. That's another thing

482
00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:25,920
which is connected from astrology. As a matter of fact,

483
00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:29,759
one of the modern systems house systems that we use Placidus.

484
00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:35,599
It was actually popularized by a Catholic priest and in

485
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,720
Italy classically carries his name. But I remembered that because

486
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,200
I couldn't understand the theological and biblical.

487
00:29:43,759 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: Part of it.

488
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: When I was actually seeing the chart of the moment

489
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,640
of the crucifixion and the eclipse that was happening at

490
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,839
the time, and all and everything that was going on,

491
00:29:54,359 --> 00:29:58,359
and all the positions. I remember the key points that

492
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,200
I was telling me the combination, uh, you know that

493
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,880
the Son, the aspect that the Son was doing to Jupiter. Uh,

494
00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:11,759
the opposition to Saturn. Uh. I don't remember all the details,

495
00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:16,119
but the position with the with Virgo, what was happening

496
00:30:16,119 --> 00:30:19,799
in the sound of Virgo reflecting the sorrow of Mary

497
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,119
at the mother at the moment at the foot of

498
00:30:22,119 --> 00:30:24,480
the cross. I mean, it was a combination of things

499
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,319
that was telling me definitely, definitely there was something divine

500
00:30:28,519 --> 00:30:30,319
going on with this guy.

501
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: Will be right back after a word from our sponsor,

502
00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:38,599
and now back to the show.

503
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 3: I wish I can recall more details of that chart

504
00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:47,000
is a is a very clear uh, but I don't

505
00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:49,119
recall right now all the details. If you want, we

506
00:30:49,119 --> 00:30:51,799
can actually do a second part just for that chart itself.

507
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: But I remember that it.

508
00:30:55,359 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: Was an explosion of joy and amazement and I laughed

509
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,680
because God has a sense of humor. That's one of

510
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,519
the things that I actually learned, the sense of humor

511
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,440
of the Creator. And my mind exploded at the moment

512
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:16,440
in many emotions, like I couldn't hold it. He was

513
00:31:16,599 --> 00:31:20,160
very strong. But yes, it is an impactful, an impactful thing.

514
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,599
And if you actually go back to thirty three years before,

515
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,000
and that's another thing that we had to fight with

516
00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:32,799
the calendar when actually Jesus was born, it seems that

517
00:31:32,839 --> 00:31:35,839
he was born actually in the second century before Christ.

518
00:31:37,119 --> 00:31:40,559
So when we look at the chart of Christ itself,

519
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,720
although we don't have a completely defined date of his birth,

520
00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:53,039
the slow planets positions at the time that possibly the

521
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:56,039
time that he was born was well described in an

522
00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:59,240
important person. One key point that we do have about

523
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,200
his birth is actually the conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter.

524
00:32:04,759 --> 00:32:08,680
Uh sat on the wise by experience that represents also

525
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,960
the evil side of the divine forces and Jupiter the

526
00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:18,319
wise by divine inspiration, the magnificent Jupiter. And that's one

527
00:32:18,359 --> 00:32:21,440
of the things that actually was followed by by the

528
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,680
Three Kings, the famous tream magic magis. They were not kings,

529
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,160
they were not magis. There were actually three astrologers. Matthew

530
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,079
two actually reflects that as well. There is actually literally

531
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,920
in Matthew two, Chapter two, there is actually a description

532
00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:45,000
of what would be uh a transit, a transits a

533
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:49,839
consultation when Herold the King asked the three Magi, tell,

534
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,519
you know, check really well stands when you're seeing you're

535
00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:58,039
watching the start and we know that Jupiter takes about

536
00:32:58,039 --> 00:33:00,279
a year to move from one side to another, their

537
00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:03,319
Saturn takes about two years and a half. And noticed

538
00:33:03,359 --> 00:33:06,559
that a few verses down the keen order to kill

539
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:12,440
anyone under two years old, you know, born within a

540
00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:14,640
period of two years, because that's the time frame of

541
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,599
the conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter. So that was that

542
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:20,680
is you know, I don't have all the details in

543
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,240
my head.

544
00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:23,559
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, that's fascinating.

545
00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:28,599
Speaker 3: Definitely in that chart, that a proximity that the proximity

546
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,759
of that his bird chart, and specifically that's the one

547
00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:34,160
that I studied. The chart of the data of the

548
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,960
crossifixion is mind blowing and definitely confirms that there was

549
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,279
something divine about that person, something very special.

550
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: That's very that's actually fascinating. It would be an interesting

551
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:49,519
example exercise to kind of go back to different masters

552
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,160
that walked around at certain times in history just to

553
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,880
see what their charts are like. But I'm assuming you've

554
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,759
also gone back to just recent history and see if

555
00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:02,839
the charts lined up, so like when World War One

556
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,920
starts wor World War two starts with you know this

557
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,119
happened or that happened, the Civil War, these kind of

558
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:13,360
I'm just using American wars vers as references because those

559
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:19,079
are very large things that happened to humanity, especially the

560
00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:21,559
World wars. Did you have you done that exercise and

561
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:23,239
have you gone back and do things lined up?

562
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: Yes?

563
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,079
Speaker 3: And that's one of the reason why I move out

564
00:34:26,119 --> 00:34:29,880
of the United States to Spain and now planning to

565
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,840
move to Argentina.

566
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,519
Speaker 2: So let me explain that.

567
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,519
Speaker 3: So we are right now in a cycle that is

568
00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:43,559
repeating science the French Revolution. So we have, for example,

569
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,840
a planet like Pluto, a modern planet that moves or

570
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,079
does a revolution every two hundred and forty eight years

571
00:34:50,599 --> 00:34:53,960
and now has returned to our aquarius, which is the

572
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,920
signed that inspires freedom and rebellion from the people, from

573
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:06,280
the chains, from the oppression of of the powerful. There

574
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,559
is also another aspect of that planet. Plual is out

575
00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:13,760
of bounds. I mean there is a road like like

576
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,320
expressway or a road that the planet should go right

577
00:35:18,639 --> 00:35:21,400
in order to be considered in a normal position. Let's

578
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,320
put it away in a in aspect to the sun.

579
00:35:24,639 --> 00:35:27,960
But when that planet goes above or beyond those boundaries,

580
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:28,719
we call that they.

581
00:35:28,639 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 2: Are out of bounds.

582
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: And in this case, for example, the one that we

583
00:35:33,039 --> 00:35:36,119
are right now, like in the times of the French Revolution,

584
00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:40,920
Pluto is out of bounds to the south, which means

585
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:47,599
that the long, slow moving planet, the energy that this

586
00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:51,519
planet is actually bringing to the world is actually a

587
00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:56,360
time of freedom from oppression, freedom from control.

588
00:35:56,639 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: And you see what.

589
00:35:58,039 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 3: Is happening right now, You say, how can that be

590
00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:03,440
happening when we see a lot more control building up.

591
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,559
Speaker 2: Yes, there is.

592
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,039
Speaker 3: Another planet, a slow planet. It's a modern planet as

593
00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:12,559
well that was discovered recently Uranus that was actually line

594
00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:14,800
up or returning into.

595
00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: Gemini. Right, So let's go back to the French Revolution.

596
00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 3: At that time, we had a Pluto in Aquarius and

597
00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:29,400
we also had Uranus in Gemini, and that's what gave

598
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,199
birth not only to the French Revolution but also to

599
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:37,400
the American Revolution Independence War. Right now, after two hundred

600
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,519
and forty years, now we are two hundred and fifty.

601
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:43,840
Pluto is back in Aquarius, bringing the same theme of

602
00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:47,519
a liberation from oppression. But there is a cycle that

603
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:50,719
is repeating it for specifically for the United States, that

604
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,880
happens every eighty four year, which is the return of

605
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:57,880
Uranus into Gemini. The first time that it happened was

606
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,159
the Independence War. Eighty four years later we have in

607
00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:04,719
eighteen sixty one, we have the Civil War. Eighty four

608
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,119
years later we have World War Two, and guess what,

609
00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:14,000
twenty twenty six, we're gonna have again the return without

610
00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:19,239
going back of Uranus into Germani. And that's gonna be

611
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,599
a long period like eight years that is going to

612
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:24,840
be working, but it's gonna be coinciding or touching or

613
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:30,119
doing a conjunction with the native position of Uranus in

614
00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:33,000
the native chart of the United States, and later on

615
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:35,440
by twenty eight. It's twenty twenty eight is going to

616
00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:40,119
be touching the native mars of the United States. So yes,

617
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,079
the partent that we had during the Civil War, during

618
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:48,920
the Independence and French Revolution, Civil War, World War two,

619
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,599
we have it right now. And you can see it

620
00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:55,920
reflected in the environment that we have within the United States.

621
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,719
Not only because the United States kind of like approaching

622
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,760
or or playing with the possibilities with the international war,

623
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,199
but there is also domestic like for example, all Another

624
00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:12,000
similarity is that during the Civil War we had a

625
00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:16,639
Neptune transiting in areas, right and that Neptune was actually

626
00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:21,360
doing an aspect of opposition with Saturn. Right now, what

627
00:38:21,519 --> 00:38:26,639
we have is actually, in my opinion, worse than that opposition.

628
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: That we had during the Civil War.

629
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 3: We actually had the union the conjunction of Saturn and

630
00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:41,039
Neptune inside of the of areas, which is similar to

631
00:38:41,079 --> 00:38:44,400
what happened during the Civil War. So I expect that

632
00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:48,639
because of that, uh, the tensions within the United States

633
00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:51,400
are going to grow even stronger and stronger. But it's

634
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:57,159
gonna be even more expanded beyond the borders of the

635
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:57,840
United States.

636
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,639
Speaker 2: Actually, it's going to be I think it's.

637
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: Going to be becoming a global conflict worse than what

638
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,599
we have ever seen before. And that's the reason why

639
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:12,840
we're pointing down or looking considered in moving down to Argentina,

640
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,599
because you see in the modern war and this is

641
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:19,159
not astrology. Remember I don't have psychic powers, but if

642
00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:21,920
you see the modern war, the modern wars, like for example,

643
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,400
in Ukraine, you can see that today's war are not

644
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,320
based on tanks and a lot of soldiers, you know,

645
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:36,800
we see more like, uh, the buzzing of the what

646
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:42,239
is it called the the the drones, the bossing of

647
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,800
the dolls drop dropping bombs and finding artificial intelligence being

648
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,480
used to detect and find the enemy and execute an attack.

649
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: And it could be even worse.

650
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 3: Remember Pluto is a planet that we also associated with

651
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,000
atomic energy and it was actually discovered when men actually

652
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,599
started playing with the energy for that purpose for military use.

653
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: Will be right back after a word from our sponsor,

654
00:40:11,519 --> 00:40:12,800
and now back to the show.

655
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,559
Speaker 3: And we have it also in a sign that is

656
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:23,039
actually doing that has a relationship with motor energies, is

657
00:40:23,079 --> 00:40:28,360
also forming a trind with Uranus, another planet that has

658
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,480
to do with these type of energies in Gemini. So

659
00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:34,159
We're going to see an explosion of energies that are

660
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:41,440
more focused or connected to military military use. Just because

661
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:44,440
we have the same repetitions of our parties that we

662
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:47,280
have in previous war, I can say that the North

663
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,440
Heavi sphere, which has been basically the scenario of all

664
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,199
the by wars in our history and basically in the

665
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,360
last two thousand and three thousand years, I can foresee

666
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,280
that something big is I mean, where United States is

667
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,079
going to be may a mayor player. And that's the

668
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:08,159
reason why we move out of the United States a

669
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,400
year before even we had the president administration, because I

670
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,199
saw I told my family, listen, things are going to

671
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,920
get worse and worse in the United States. It's time

672
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,719
to move out. I always said that I'd like to

673
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:24,519
be early, a year before than a day late, because

674
00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:26,880
I knew what is coming. Now from Spain, we're actually

675
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,119
watching what is going on in the United States and

676
00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:32,800
we I'm not amazed. I'm just confirming that things are

677
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,440
just warming up for a lot more tensions that will

678
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:42,800
start specifically next year after you know, twenty twenty six,

679
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,159
after April twenty twenty six. From that, Uranus finally move

680
00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:50,199
into areas and we have the conjunction of Saturn and

681
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:57,039
and a Neptune getting strong within areas and Uranus in Gemini.

682
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,920
We're going to see that the tensions, the social thing

683
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,239
and the problem that we're we're gonna have within the

684
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,679
United States are going to be increasing and getting more more.

685
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,159
Speaker 2: Difficult to tolerate.

686
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,559
Speaker 3: It's in my opinion, it's going to be an archaotic

687
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,039
than that we really want or expect.

688
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: Now with all of this, you know again, I had

689
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,320
I talked to so many different people for so many

690
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:30,159
different walks of life that psychics, channelers, mediums, astrologers. Nothing

691
00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:33,639
that you're saying is surprising. It's all kind of like

692
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,440
twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven, It kind of it

693
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,159
starts to cool off around twenty thirty two, is what

694
00:42:41,199 --> 00:42:43,599
I'm hearing. Is that what you see as well.

695
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,679
Speaker 3: Yes, twenty thirty three will be the day or the

696
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,440
year that you might hope to return back to the

697
00:42:49,559 --> 00:42:51,280
United States, which is not going to be the same

698
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,840
after that, because it does another thing that I've been

699
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,360
analyzing for the next ten years.

700
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 2: We're going to see a complete decline of the United

701
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,280
States as a world superpower.

702
00:43:03,559 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 3: And I see another empire of power rising up, which

703
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,760
is China. I was actually analysed in China's charge, and

704
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,119
I see that all the events that are actually creating

705
00:43:15,199 --> 00:43:19,440
the decline the United States are becoming an opportunity to

706
00:43:19,559 --> 00:43:22,159
rise up even more powerful for China.

707
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: You know.

708
00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:26,079
Speaker 3: I'll give you an example, the return of Pluto. Pluto

709
00:43:26,199 --> 00:43:28,760
when the United States was created, a creator or born

710
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:34,199
in nine seventeen seventy six was in Aquarius. And usually

711
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,440
the empires fall when we have a return of Pluto,

712
00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:41,559
or we have at least the second return or the

713
00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:44,440
third return, the most right, the same happy with the

714
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,760
British Empire, with the Roman Empire.

715
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,039
Speaker 2: Well, guess what the.

716
00:43:48,119 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 3: United States already had because the retrogation retrogressions, we had

717
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actually two returns of Pluto. We have Pluto coming to

718
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,599
the axcept point of Earth, which is twenty seven degrees

719
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,880
of Capricorn, and then later on we had another retrograd

720
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Pluto into that degree, which it signals to me that

721
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:17,440
the times for America to be great again is a

722
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,360
long time passed. And this is not a political estatement,

723
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,400
it's an astrological observation period. So we're going to see

724
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,920
the decline of the United States like any other empire

725
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,039
with their footprint and power in the world.

726
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Speaker 1: So with that said, so something like the British Empire obviously,

727
00:44:35,559 --> 00:44:38,199
and for people listening that might be freaking out a

728
00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:40,559
little bit in regards to you saying that. And again,

729
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,199
nothing of this is surprising. This is other astrologers have

730
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,039
said the exact same thing, that in the way the

731
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cycle is running, that the US Empire will weaken while

732
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the Chinese Empire will strengthen. That but the British Empire,

733
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,400
which was a world power at a time, they're still

734
00:45:01,559 --> 00:45:04,960
fairly powerful as a country in this on this planet

735
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,719
you and so is France, and so is many of

736
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:13,400
the older empires that were world empires have have weakened,

737
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,519
but there's still, you know, something to be reckoned with.

738
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,960
So it's not like tomorrow that the United States is

739
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,559
going to turn into a third world country by any stretch.

740
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:26,519
That's not happened. Maintain a certain amount of strength and power.

741
00:45:26,559 --> 00:45:29,559
But it seems like they're eating we're eating ourselves from

742
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:31,119
the inside essentially.

743
00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:32,079
Speaker 2: I see it this way.

744
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 3: No, the United States is not going it's not going

745
00:45:35,519 --> 00:45:38,079
to become a third world country. That's not what I meant,

746
00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:44,159
you know, the empires. Once they lose their power to

747
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:48,920
submit and control others, they become legacy type of empires.

748
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,360
Like I'll give you an example right now, for example,

749
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,039
the United States, because they might of.

750
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,519
Speaker 2: The of the army or the of the of the military.

751
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 3: Military weapons, they can super word a baseless currency called dollar,

752
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,159
which is the FIA dollar, which has not whatsoever backup

753
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,920
of any kind but the full credit and good will

754
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,639
by fear by force of the of the military of

755
00:46:15,679 --> 00:46:18,159
the United States. I think that is going to change

756
00:46:18,199 --> 00:46:21,000
big time, like the dollar will have to find a

757
00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:26,360
backup with a real money like goal or something else

758
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,800
in order to survive the new world, or we can

759
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:34,239
actually become use another type of currency, but definitely something

760
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,320
The capacity of the United States to impose sanctions financially

761
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,920
in other countries is going to completely disappear. But the power,

762
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,599
the military power probably also will be not as determinant

763
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,760
as dominant in the world like it is today that

764
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:57,400
you can actually impose a lot of fears or control

765
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,599
or have basis all over the world. That is going

766
00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:04,280
to diminish, like for example, give an example, the British Empire.

767
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,960
The British Empire is not any more what it used

768
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,360
to be. But it's a legacy empire that has a

769
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common wealth, a common wealth that a lot of people share, culture, share,

770
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,079
share self interest or history with that empire. Or I

771
00:47:19,119 --> 00:47:22,840
give you the example of the Spanish Empire that has

772
00:47:23,039 --> 00:47:28,880
no meaning whatsoever military or or economically to any part

773
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,360
of the world, but there is a strong connection with

774
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,679
any country that expects Spanish and anything that was actually

775
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:42,159
produced by the Spanish Empire during those centuries.

776
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Speaker 2: You can see it.

777
00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 3: For example, when any of us hispanic returned to Spain

778
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,960
our motherland, our mother or country land. We call it

779
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,800
a way, you know, we can see the similarity of

780
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:54,880
the culture.

781
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,159
Speaker 2: The fools, the religions there that connects.

782
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Speaker 3: So we have that empire like type of connection. They

783
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,239
have a strong voice because it's our mother but it's

784
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,039
not anymore what it used to be. I see United

785
00:48:10,119 --> 00:48:14,400
States transition into something like that, maybe another power of

786
00:48:14,519 --> 00:48:18,320
second degree or third degree, let's say second degree at first.

787
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,840
But China is becoming what the United States is today,

788
00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:29,039
Dominant in technology, dominant in the financial world, even dominant militarily,

789
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:34,000
so they will be the ones imposing sanctions another when

790
00:48:34,039 --> 00:48:35,199
things don't go their way.

791
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

792
00:48:35,639 --> 00:48:38,119
Speaker 1: So the other thing I wanted to ask you is

793
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,960
the cyclical aspect of what you were talking about, like

794
00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:45,480
empires falling and you know every three hundred years or

795
00:48:45,519 --> 00:48:47,719
something like that, you can kind of see what was

796
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,840
going on. But there was an empire that ran, and

797
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,639
there's many empires that ran for longer, but the one

798
00:48:53,679 --> 00:48:56,480
that's in the most recent history is Rome. So the

799
00:48:56,559 --> 00:49:01,000
Roman Empire, to my understanding, wasn't power for over almost

800
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,719
a thousand years if history serves me correct. So cyclically,

801
00:49:06,159 --> 00:49:08,280
a lot of the things that you're talking about would

802
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,639
have happened during the run of the Roman Empire. But

803
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,760
yet the Roman Empire didn't fall. It might have faltered

804
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,519
in you know, year three hundred, a year six hundred,

805
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,400
if it's a cycle that goes in. So what happened

806
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,960
there was it just lack of other powers, And that's

807
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,760
why I just stayed there. There wasn't a China, there

808
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,840
wasn't a Britain, or there wasn't a France that could

809
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,719
jump in and take over the world power because Rome

810
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,039
was a world power in the most recent years of

811
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,559
the last two thousand years. There were obviously longer with

812
00:49:40,679 --> 00:49:41,840
the Byzantine and.

813
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 3: Aria West, the eastern part of the empire. Well, don't

814
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,880
expect that it will fall overnight.

815
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 2: It's not going to be that way. It's going to be.

816
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 3: A transition into another level or another degree, and then

817
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,000
the other one takes over. But I'm talking about it

818
00:50:00,039 --> 00:50:02,960
a range of fifteen years. For the next fifteen years,

819
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,519
it's going to be a lot more. It's going to

820
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:10,239
be sooner faster than what we actually want. But it's

821
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:11,679
going to happen gradually.

822
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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

823
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,000
And now back to the show.

824
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Speaker 2: Roman Empire.

825
00:50:24,039 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 3: Yes, disappear as an empire, but actually whatever they left

826
00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:34,320
it didn't actually completely was it raised from history or

827
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,559
from you know, all the cultures, the barbarians and the

828
00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:41,920
different cultures that invader destroyed that unity that we call

829
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:47,280
Roman Empire. They actually accepted and adopted and actually in

830
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,679
a way they tried to rescue it later on by

831
00:50:49,679 --> 00:50:53,199
calling you know, the new Holy Roman Empire and creating

832
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:59,280
new ways of reviving that new empire, that empire.

833
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: So isn't it Isn't it true though, that the Roman

834
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,440
Empire never actually fell. It just turned into the Vatican.

835
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,119
It turned into the all that wealth, All all that

836
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,320
wealth went somewhere. All that gold went somewhere. So the

837
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,719
Roman that and I don't want to get into the

838
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,920
go down the rabbit hole of the Vatican and the Roman,

839
00:51:18,199 --> 00:51:20,719
the Roman Roman Catholic Church and all that, but a

840
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,519
lot of it went into Rome. And because I was

841
00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:27,960
standing at when I was standing in the Vatican, and

842
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,679
I've said this before and I'll say it again, it

843
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,800
was the stupidest thing I've ever thought of. I've been

844
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,639
a Roman, I was a Roman raised, Roman Catholic all

845
00:51:34,679 --> 00:51:37,639
my life, went to Catholic school, the whole ball away.

846
00:51:37,679 --> 00:51:38,880
I still feel guilty about it.

847
00:51:41,199 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 2: So Catholic.

848
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: I am a recovering Catholic. But the thing is that

849
00:51:46,159 --> 00:51:50,440
when I was in Rome, standing at the Vatican, at

850
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,039
Saint Peter's at St. Peter's Basilica, I'm sitting there and

851
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:57,360
I'm looking at it, and I go, oh, my god, Rome,

852
00:51:58,079 --> 00:52:01,559
Roman Catholic Church. I never connected the Roman Empire with

853
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:04,159
the Catholic Church, but that's what it was. It was

854
00:52:04,199 --> 00:52:07,400
the Rome exactly. Of course, I was a little slow

855
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,000
on the uptake for me, but it was it was like,

856
00:52:11,079 --> 00:52:14,239
oh my god, Rome turned into the Catholic Church, and

857
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:15,880
then all of this stuff, and then and then you

858
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,239
start going into the council and you obviously studied or

859
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,159
were going to become a priest. So but how the

860
00:52:22,199 --> 00:52:26,239
Bible was written, the Council of Nicee Constantine and all

861
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,440
of that. Then I was just like, oh my god,

862
00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:32,239
this is this is so that's where Rome went. The

863
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,199
British Empire has turned into what it is today. Very powerful,

864
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,840
very powerful country, but it's not a world power. It

865
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,760
is a very I mean, you don't want to mess

866
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:48,280
with with Britain, you know. But if China wanted with Britain, Britain.

867
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 2: Really couldn't they themselves.

868
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,639
Speaker 1: They couldn't, you know, they would need the help of

869
00:52:52,679 --> 00:52:55,039
the United States and pretty much the rest of Europe.

870
00:52:55,519 --> 00:52:58,639
And even then I'm not quite sure what would happen.

871
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,079
We might blow ourselves up up at that point.

872
00:53:01,199 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 3: Right, right, yeah, Well, the Catholic Church basically, yes, it's

873
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,679
the continuation of the Roman Empire, but more as a

874
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,639
political cultural part of the empire. Right still has the

875
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:19,440
persuasion from a political perspective and historical perspective and psychological

876
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,679
perspective that the Roman Empire has, and as a matter

877
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,880
of fact, it has the power of unity that the

878
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,920
Roman Empire had around all the cultures that were within

879
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,800
the Roman Empire. The same thing happened with the Catholic Church.

880
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,960
You can go anywhere, whether it's a Catholic church or

881
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,880
a Catholic community, you're going to see a very common

882
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:45,880
team pointing to Rome, right, with their own distinctive but

883
00:53:46,199 --> 00:53:50,440
very very much Roman, very much like the Italian Church.

884
00:53:50,519 --> 00:53:53,519
I mean it's not far yes in that sense, yes,

885
00:53:53,559 --> 00:53:56,079
but I don't think the United States has the rich

886
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,880
and the power that the Catholic or the Roman Empire has.

887
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:05,920
For example, Spain, Spain was actually a country that was

888
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:10,440
actually conquered by Roma, right, But today the Spaniers they

889
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:16,880
feel proud to be descendant or or share the Latin culture,

890
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,199
the culture of the Roman Empire. Uh, you know, the

891
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,840
conquerors suddenly became not the enemy, but they became actually

892
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,199
something to be proud of. Again, it didn't happen overnight,

893
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,599
because I'm pretty sure that when Romans came into into

894
00:54:29,679 --> 00:54:35,679
the Peninsula, into into Spain, the native were not that happy.

895
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:40,800
But the transition progressively was turning that culture into a

896
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,719
new era. The same thing probably will happen with the

897
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:48,519
world in general. The United States will uh will lose

898
00:54:48,599 --> 00:54:51,760
up a little bit there if you want their pride

899
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,280
of being the greatest and the best country in the world,

900
00:54:54,639 --> 00:54:55,559
which is not.

901
00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: Listen, we're number one where listen, we're thirty second in math,

902
00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:06,519
you know, twenty seventh in science, but number one in confidence.

903
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,800
That's right, that's right, But that's but that's the that's

904
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,039
the propaganda. I mean when I was I was raised here,

905
00:55:14,159 --> 00:55:17,159
so you got here at seventeen. I was raised so

906
00:55:17,199 --> 00:55:20,519
I was pretty insulated for most of my life until

907
00:55:20,519 --> 00:55:22,920
I started to travel the world. And when I started

908
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,800
to travel the world, I started seeing other cultures, start

909
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,199
seeing other countries, and then looking back at the United

910
00:55:29,199 --> 00:55:32,920
States and the propaganda, not the propaganda, but the media,

911
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,360
the Hollywood. I come from from that world. That's what

912
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:41,840
we exported our culture. And for a long time, the

913
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:46,679
US culture, American culture. Everybody wanted KFC, everybody wanted blue jeans,

914
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:51,159
everybody wanted everything that was America. Where now other countries,

915
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,400
I mean, look at Korea, for God's sake, South Korea,

916
00:55:54,039 --> 00:55:57,320
the k pop revolution. You know, it's insane in Spain,

917
00:55:58,079 --> 00:56:02,480
sending out, sending over you know, amazing content on Netflix

918
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,159
and things so all these kind of thing. Now other

919
00:56:04,199 --> 00:56:07,239
cultures are starting to take over popular culture. When the

920
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:12,400
Americans had it locked down for I'd argue probably from

921
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,639
the fifties on. Yeah, I'd say from the fifties on,

922
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,400
they had a run about fifty sixty years that everybody

923
00:56:19,639 --> 00:56:24,679
was all about American culture. But now there's this mixture

924
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,639
of so many other different different countries that are starting

925
00:56:28,679 --> 00:56:30,639
to put their culture out in the world place as well.

926
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 3: And I see that happening in the United States after

927
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,920
year t one thirty three, where America is gonna it's

928
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,280
going to open up to older cultures, languages, and be

929
00:56:42,519 --> 00:56:47,480
more tolerant. And I actually celebrate like Spain now celebrates

930
00:56:48,119 --> 00:56:52,960
the conquerors Rome. Eventually Spain, I mean, the United States

931
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,159
will be also like for example, when you see, even

932
00:56:56,159 --> 00:56:58,519
though the American has a lot of influence too with

933
00:56:58,639 --> 00:57:01,360
Hollywood and music and all that in the world, when

934
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,719
you see, for example, from the perspective of Europe, that

935
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:08,639
America is only is so focused on English only, when

936
00:57:09,519 --> 00:57:14,519
the beauty of speaking more than one language is such

937
00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:19,960
an amazing improvement for your mind and your soul. I mean,

938
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,400
it's laughable when you see that America or English only

939
00:57:23,519 --> 00:57:25,679
like for example. That's another thing. I think that America

940
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:30,239
is also going to evolve into being more like Europe,

941
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,119
more tolerant and open. The reason why I think that

942
00:57:34,159 --> 00:57:38,719
way because the new society that is coming after these,

943
00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:42,440
the our times that is approaching, is going to be

944
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,239
more focused on the value of humanity, not on the

945
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,320
value of might or power, things like that. Plural in

946
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,719
a quir is going to bring, like in the French Revolution,

947
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,000
going back to astrology, it's going to bring a sense

948
00:57:56,039 --> 00:57:58,960
of freedom from whatever is oppressing the world.

949
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 2: You know, I say, you know people, they see a.

950
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:08,039
Speaker 3: Lot of control digital id uh CB, you know, the

951
00:58:08,119 --> 00:58:12,039
digital currency, to control how you spend your money, social credit,

952
00:58:12,119 --> 00:58:15,840
that kind of stuff. Yes, that is gonna to a point,

953
00:58:16,119 --> 00:58:19,800
is gonna bring the world to a point of I

954
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,400
can't take it anymore, and then we're gonna become free

955
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,920
of that. Why because Pluto out of bound to the

956
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:30,599
south in Aquarius is gonna turn all the technical oppression

957
00:58:30,639 --> 00:58:33,320
and the oppression from the world, from the from the

958
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:37,920
superpowers or the governments into a revolution where we're gonna

959
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:43,039
be inclined more into respecting our fellow human looking for

960
00:58:43,639 --> 00:58:48,639
something more transcendental in our life, not necessarily just this.

961
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: Life, or or being only very individualistic.

962
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,559
Speaker 3: That's another thing that I actually experience when I moved

963
00:58:58,599 --> 00:59:03,199
to Spain, uh, walking away from thirty five years of

964
00:59:04,239 --> 00:59:06,320
mindset in the United States that you have to be

965
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,599
successful only for you and by your own effort, and

966
00:59:10,639 --> 00:59:15,960
then you understand the world from a different perspective. Not

967
00:59:16,159 --> 00:59:22,159
necessarily communists, no, no, no, but having compassion and having

968
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:27,199
a consideration or all all everyone around you. I think

969
00:59:27,239 --> 00:59:30,880
the world is moving into that direction. But before we

970
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:35,480
had to go through this process of transformation, not necessarily

971
00:59:35,519 --> 00:59:41,119
through a good means. Remember that, unfortunately history have proven them.

972
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:46,719
We men do not change onto something drastic really happened,

973
00:59:47,239 --> 00:59:53,079
like a war, like a mayor pandemic, something major has

974
00:59:53,119 --> 00:59:56,920
to trigger that we become more sensitive. I'll give you

975
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,800
an example that two thousand and one, when ninety eleven

976
01:00:01,239 --> 01:00:04,920
people went to the churches and everyone became more American

977
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:09,920
and more civilized with everyone and more connected with the divine.

978
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,960
Something like that is going to happen in the world.

979
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,440
There is a transition. We're going to be more tolern

980
01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:16,679
The United State is not gonna appear, it's just going

981
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:24,000
to transform into something less. Less ultra nationalists and close

982
01:00:24,159 --> 01:00:27,880
minded to one language, one form of way of being

983
01:00:28,239 --> 01:00:33,079
to consider everything else that is out there. That's what

984
01:00:33,159 --> 01:00:33,920
I see is coming.

985
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

986
01:00:41,519 --> 01:00:45,679
and now back to the show. And the funny thing

987
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,719
is that this country was built. It's an experiment the

988
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,360
United States. It's an experiment of every culture around the

989
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,280
world that built this country. All cultures built this country,

990
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,599
as opposed to Spain or France or England, which were

991
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,880
very native, you know, specific kind of language and country

992
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:08,360
and people. We have. We're a melting pot. That's what

993
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,920
we were built on. That's how that's why we became

994
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,400
as powerful as we are because we opened our doors

995
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,440
to everybody and we worked with everybody, and that's how

996
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,239
we were able to this scrappy little country built up

997
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:24,800
into a world power. And after World War Two, when

998
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:29,719
Europe was just devastated, we were fine, and we were

999
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:34,599
able to build an economic engine that my parents' generation

1000
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,159
took advantage of, you know, and then my generation has

1001
01:01:38,199 --> 01:01:40,960
taken advantage of it to a certain extent. And then

1002
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,679
but it's gotten weaker and weaker to the kids who

1003
01:01:44,679 --> 01:01:47,760
are coming up today, I feel habit a little bit

1004
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,599
tougher in many ways than we did growing up and

1005
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,639
have stresses that we couldn't even comprehend. Then. God, social

1006
01:01:55,679 --> 01:01:57,800
media wasn't around when I was growing up. I can't

1007
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,840
even imagine, you know, just for the evidence alone of

1008
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:05,239
the things I did in high school. So to make

1009
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,280
sure that there's none of those videos out there, but

1010
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,599
it's it's I think we all we all can agree

1011
01:02:12,639 --> 01:02:15,079
the things that we would not want to see shown

1012
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,119
that we were like in he what we were wearing.

1013
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of things wouldn't be tolerated

1014
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:22,320
today's day, for sure.

1015
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: Oh No, And you can kind of go back and

1016
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,480
look at I was talking to someone today this morning.

1017
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,679
I'm like, I was like, I saw a clip from

1018
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,559
All in the Family, from the seventies show All in

1019
01:02:31,559 --> 01:02:35,519
the Families was the number one show in America for years.

1020
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,639
Very oh my god, the stuff that was coming out

1021
01:02:39,679 --> 01:02:41,840
of his mouth. I was like, oh my and I

1022
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,119
remember watching that show growing up, and it was just like,

1023
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:49,159
oh my god. Things have changed so radically, Hodie, I

1024
01:02:49,199 --> 01:02:51,320
want to ask you, with all of these changes that

1025
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,400
are coming, and obviously we're kind of going through a

1026
01:02:54,599 --> 01:02:57,079
Dark Knight of the Soul as as a species, as

1027
01:02:57,199 --> 01:03:00,800
a consciousness. That's what these next set and eight years

1028
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,599
are going to be. I've been talking about it for

1029
01:03:03,679 --> 01:03:06,519
a few years now, kind of not scaring people, but

1030
01:03:06,599 --> 01:03:08,840
trying to let people know, Look, this is coming, and

1031
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,280
it's It's not that it's good or bad. It's just

1032
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,480
going to be what it is. Kind of like when

1033
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,199
you know, you go through a heartbreak, when you lose

1034
01:03:16,199 --> 01:03:18,920
your job, when you you know, when you get divorced,

1035
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,920
when you have a breakup. Those are very painful things

1036
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,639
that happen to you, but those are the things that

1037
01:03:25,079 --> 01:03:27,760
you grow from. Those are the things that elevate you

1038
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:32,519
and push you forward. Without those extremes, you might just

1039
01:03:32,639 --> 01:03:35,360
keep coasting through life. So that's what we all kind

1040
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,960
of need that wake up call as a society. But

1041
01:03:38,039 --> 01:03:41,360
with all of the all of the kind of negative

1042
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,960
stuff that we've been talking about, I also want to

1043
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:49,159
put a spotlight on the positive. There are large amounts

1044
01:03:49,199 --> 01:03:52,760
of people awakening around the world. This show is a

1045
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,599
perfect example of it. I've said it before and I'll

1046
01:03:55,599 --> 01:03:57,800
say it again. Ten years ago this show doesn't get

1047
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:02,039
these numbers. You know, the years ago I would have

1048
01:04:02,079 --> 01:04:04,360
been laughed out. You know, I couldn't have a conversation

1049
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,320
with an astrologer, a Cuban astrologer who's in Spain talking

1050
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,039
about craziness, you know, or a psychic medium or a

1051
01:04:11,119 --> 01:04:15,239
channeler channeling higher beings like those conversations would not be allowed.

1052
01:04:15,239 --> 01:04:19,920
But now, for whatever reason it is, it is something

1053
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:24,000
that people are looking for. They're leaving the traditional paths

1054
01:04:24,039 --> 01:04:26,519
that are not serving them the same way, the more

1055
01:04:26,559 --> 01:04:29,840
dogmatic religion, the more fear based religions, and now they're

1056
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,199
starting to look for more spiritual, looking for answers within themselves,

1057
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,599
looking for paths to go on. You yourself, we were talking

1058
01:04:36,599 --> 01:04:38,760
a little bit about that. Can you tell a little bit.

1059
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,880
Can you just tell people what the show did for

1060
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,760
you as an example of to illustrate what we're talking about.

1061
01:04:45,719 --> 01:04:48,519
Speaker 3: Right, I had to go a little bit back, like, Okay,

1062
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:54,920
I when I was a teenager, back Inqua, I actually

1063
01:04:55,719 --> 01:04:58,400
enter a seminary to start to be a catlibrist.

1064
01:04:58,719 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 2: Right.

1065
01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 3: I thought I was going to be a Catholic priest.

1066
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,639
Even when I moved to the United States, immgrated with

1067
01:05:04,679 --> 01:05:07,000
my parents. My father was a political prisoner, so we

1068
01:05:07,119 --> 01:05:09,480
looked from Havana to Miami, and I thought that I

1069
01:05:09,519 --> 01:05:12,079
was going to continue, no problems, no big deal.

1070
01:05:13,719 --> 01:05:16,239
Speaker 2: It didn't happen. Somehow I got.

1071
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,719
Speaker 3: Involved into working making money things and started doing well

1072
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:23,519
for me, and uh, life in the United States took

1073
01:05:23,559 --> 01:05:28,800
over and I was able to excel financially. I started

1074
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,039
to be an it guy, and I, you know, I

1075
01:05:31,079 --> 01:05:34,400
was very happy with everything knew that I was discovering,

1076
01:05:34,639 --> 01:05:37,800
but I also was moving away from my original vocation.

1077
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,599
I remember that the reason why I wanted to be

1078
01:05:41,639 --> 01:05:43,679
a priest is because I wanted to be like an

1079
01:05:43,679 --> 01:05:48,000
embassy of freedom, an escape of freedom, and a powerful

1080
01:05:48,079 --> 01:05:51,880
weapon to help my people that were dying in drying

1081
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,320
and dryness.

1082
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:53,519
Speaker 2: You know.

1083
01:05:54,079 --> 01:05:57,559
Speaker 3: So when I came over here, I dried up becoming

1084
01:05:57,679 --> 01:05:59,280
successful by myself.

1085
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,199
Speaker 2: But I got a like.

1086
01:06:03,239 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 3: A big stop in twenty twenty. That was something that

1087
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,840
really like completely shook me to the point that where

1088
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,000
I've been going, Why do I keep doing things just

1089
01:06:15,039 --> 01:06:17,760
to paying money when I know that I'm not happy.

1090
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:24,559
My life has no meaning whatsoever. My original vocation is

1091
01:06:24,639 --> 01:06:30,079
not in use at all. And I feel horrible because

1092
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:34,079
then guys started to read take more time and one

1093
01:06:34,119 --> 01:06:35,800
of the things that I did is actually I got

1094
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:40,920
involved into hymnosis, you know, learning more about my mind

1095
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:44,719
and the superpower of power mind, which is I call it.

1096
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 2: He knows, is a superpower.

1097
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 3: So I got enrolled into a school in Tampa that

1098
01:06:50,039 --> 01:06:52,679
they were doing a program for a whole year and

1099
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:56,559
we have a you know, different courses, and I specialized

1100
01:06:56,599 --> 01:07:00,239
in clinical and then later on transpersonal. But at the

1101
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:04,639
same time, during that time, I was actually dealing with

1102
01:07:04,639 --> 01:07:05,239
my father.

1103
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 2: He had a.

1104
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 3: Very strong health condition, you know, heart condition, heart failure, condition,

1105
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,280
congest her failure, he was going through dialysis, and at

1106
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:19,800
the same time I was having a tough relationship with him.

1107
01:07:20,719 --> 01:07:26,079
Speaker 2: He knows. This was actually helped me to.

1108
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:29,119
Speaker 3: Finish brush up all the bad aspects of that relationship

1109
01:07:29,199 --> 01:07:31,880
to the point that I took over and created for

1110
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,320
the last few months of his life, a wonderful relationship

1111
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,760
with my father. I was so grateful about that. Then

1112
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:43,440
I got into transpersonal and my father, my father already

1113
01:07:43,599 --> 01:07:46,840
died and I got into this trans personal I was

1114
01:07:47,159 --> 01:07:50,039
like always a very skeptical person that doesn't going to

1115
01:07:50,079 --> 01:07:51,920
happen to me. Nothing is going to happen to me.

1116
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:56,039
I'm not a Napoleon or Cleopatra. I'm not an a

1117
01:07:56,079 --> 01:07:59,280
special guy. I'm not going to be seized Roman Roman Emperor.

1118
01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:02,519
Speaker 2: That's yes. Well let's take the class. Let's see what happens.

1119
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:07,639
Speaker 3: So I remember doing my first regression, you know, me

1120
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:12,039
being the subject in class, and it took me by surprise.

1121
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,840
I only visited one time, one life, one past life

1122
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:16,880
several times.

1123
01:08:17,159 --> 01:08:19,359
Speaker 2: But there is one particular.

1124
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:25,199
Speaker 3: Regression which is the most treasure delightful memory that I have,

1125
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,720
which is the time between life and life, between one

1126
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,439
life and the other life, in between, a lot in

1127
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,640
between and in between a lot of things happened in

1128
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:38,720
that regression, and I remember that one of the things

1129
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,720
that happened to me there is actually that I was

1130
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:45,800
able to telepathelictly talk to a light being that was

1131
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:47,840
right in front of me. I couldn't define whether it

1132
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:51,239
was a male or female or their name. When I

1133
01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:55,119
was asked, I knew that that being was my master

1134
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,800
or the Master. I didn't see Jesus or angels. I

1135
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,680
just saw this bright light that it was so bright

1136
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,359
that in this world we could never resist. But in

1137
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:10,079
that experience, I could see through the light without being

1138
01:09:10,119 --> 01:09:13,119
affected in a negative way, and I was able to

1139
01:09:13,199 --> 01:09:20,319
actually see plan together with that person my present life.

1140
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:24,239
I remember discussing some of the things that I wanted

1141
01:09:24,279 --> 01:09:26,680
to do or not But at the same time, I

1142
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:31,600
was shown the last few moments or years perhaps of

1143
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:35,199
this current life that I'm living, and I noticed that

1144
01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:39,680
what I was doing was great, was actually impacting many people.

1145
01:09:40,079 --> 01:09:42,600
I remember seeing, like, for example, I was on a

1146
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,479
stage and I had a lot of people around and

1147
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,439
they had like a light on, like when you turn

1148
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,680
on the flashlights of your cell phone, and they were

1149
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:54,359
waving from the stage. I was actually able to feel it,

1150
01:09:54,479 --> 01:10:00,239
the collective gratitude and enjoy because of whatever I was done,

1151
01:10:00,359 --> 01:10:02,479
I was doing in that future life that was going

1152
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:07,000
to incarnate, and I felt a rush of aphoria and

1153
01:10:07,039 --> 01:10:10,039
I started screaming, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, because

1154
01:10:10,079 --> 01:10:12,359
I wanted to be the moment. And then I was

1155
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,119
lay I fell back and I was laid into my

1156
01:10:15,239 --> 01:10:17,279
mother's room.

1157
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,039
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1158
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:24,920
and now back to the show.

1159
01:10:27,119 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 3: There is a lot of things that happened in that

1160
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,680
a lot more details. Remember that, Like a month after

1161
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:38,880
I had that experience, I found your channel, specifically a

1162
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:43,439
video about one of your guests that he was for

1163
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,800
forty five minutes. He had a near death experience, and

1164
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:52,600
here recounts what happened in the afterlife. A lot of

1165
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:56,159
the things that he was describing, I actually experienced it,

1166
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,439
and I never read about her or actually checked into it.

1167
01:11:00,119 --> 01:11:02,479
At the same time that I was watching that video

1168
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:06,560
and that I was battling with the big question, So

1169
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:10,000
we reincarnate, there are other lives, so there is no

1170
01:11:10,119 --> 01:11:13,720
heaven and hell, so we have a continuous progression of

1171
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,640
our life. Remember, and coming from a dog Mardy background,

1172
01:11:17,239 --> 01:11:21,680
very strong dog Mardy background, So I have so much

1173
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:26,800
pain in my mind and fear because at the same

1174
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:31,279
time that I wanted to believe that experience, my dog

1175
01:11:31,359 --> 01:11:35,960
Mandy background that was so rooted into my mind was

1176
01:11:36,039 --> 01:11:39,199
fighting a strong what if the devil was actually taking

1177
01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:42,399
over your mind and making you feel or imaginable things.

1178
01:11:43,239 --> 01:11:46,000
Why this is all crap and you're just being full

1179
01:11:46,039 --> 01:11:49,960
into something new that you know you can't believe that.

1180
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:54,520
But then when I watched that video in particular, and

1181
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,920
then some others in your channel, I started losing up.

1182
01:12:00,039 --> 01:12:03,279
How can that person have the same experience that I have?

1183
01:12:04,039 --> 01:12:07,119
How can I know what he lived when I never

1184
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,680
read or watched a video like this before, but we

1185
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:15,680
have common details about the experience, and mine was only

1186
01:12:16,039 --> 01:12:18,760
was only a regression. His was actually a real thing,

1187
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:22,479
you know, like in the ear the experience and also

1188
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:27,359
the other videos that I that I watch, they start

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softening up my or down my soul, the rebellious part

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of my soul. And then I start realizing our lives

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on my life has a bigger meaning than just this

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eighty sixty whatever years we're going to live in this plane.

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There is more than that. Our life is actually eternal.

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I start realizing that our live is actually eternal, but

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we just in a continued learning process to understand why

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we are who we are while we do the things

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that we do, what is our real true vocation. And

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that's what actually happened. And that completely started changing not

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only my theology which was completely wiped out, most of

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it was actually wiped out, but also turned or change

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the way that I also relate to people around me,

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Like for example, I became more tolerant. I was very

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01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,399
obsessive of vehement with whatever I believed, you know, like

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01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:36,720
a like a whole inquisitor. But my truth was the

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truth but now because of this transition and these videos

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01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,399
and the testimony that you were reflecting in your channel,

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my soul was actually souftening out with the sweetness. Or

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actually I stopped and listen and consider others and instead

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of seeing seeing them opposing parts that I had to rebottl,

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now I can actually see that there was a compliment,

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that something was fitting in that we were actually pieces

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of apostle, that it was not you or me black

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and white, it's actually we together. A lot of things

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01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:15,720
it changed. All combined with astrology, of course, as surely

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also is very revealing, but your channel was instrumental to

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01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:24,079
make me uh be more tolerant and understanding with my wife,

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01:14:24,199 --> 01:14:28,159
my children, their transitions in life, there, their moods or whatever,

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all the people in general.

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Speaker 2: Uh Like.

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Speaker 3: For example, one of the things that uh that that

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happened to me because of the things that I saw,

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my experiences and also the compliment of the videos that

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I saw on your channel, is stopping bottling or fighting

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01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,479
with other people about my truth or what is a

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01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:59,319
defined truth. Suddenly I became more like observant and respectful

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of together. Combined with the swingness, another thing is guilt.

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Speaker 2: The guilt and fear.

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Speaker 3: I had a lot of gear because fear and guilt

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01:15:10,079 --> 01:15:12,399
combined because I had to be a certain ways. I

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don't behave a certain way. Then I am evil health

1231
01:15:17,079 --> 01:15:20,319
and I got to help. Then I realized that actually

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even my because of your shows and some books that

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01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:29,159
I also read, even the bad things that I can

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01:15:29,199 --> 01:15:33,760
describe as evil or uncomfortable or not good at all

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01:15:34,239 --> 01:15:41,520
in my personality was actually mechanism or defense or simple

1236
01:15:42,079 --> 01:15:48,239
tools that was actually used for good, to form me,

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01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:52,319
to bring me to awareness. A lot of things change

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01:15:53,119 --> 01:15:57,039
the respect to myself, the consideration to myself, Like I

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01:15:57,079 --> 01:16:02,479
became a lot more embold and and and fearless. One

1240
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of the by products of your show and the hymnos

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it he knows this was the confrontation.

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Speaker 2: With reality which brought me to a crisis.

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01:16:11,159 --> 01:16:16,520
Speaker 3: Your show Easy Down, Easy up my attention my sphere

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01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:20,319
and made me relax. Because of that, I actually was

1245
01:16:20,359 --> 01:16:26,239
able to open or there to start my astrology channel Astrogia,

1246
01:16:26,239 --> 01:16:30,359
which I started in June twenty twenty three, June twenty third,

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01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:35,680
twenty twenty three. Before that, I wasn't there to do it.

1248
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Why because you know, the high school friendships are like

1249
01:16:39,279 --> 01:16:46,800
forever friendships, right, well, my friendships are friars, frist Diackens, nuns,

1250
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:51,680
and one bishop. On top of that, I actually taught leaders,

1251
01:16:52,399 --> 01:16:59,159
Catholic leaders about Old Testament evangelization for the actually diss

1252
01:16:59,199 --> 01:17:02,800
of Miami. So coming in public as an astrologer was

1253
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:06,239
a social It was a social cost that I was

1254
01:17:06,399 --> 01:17:12,479
not willing to pay. I couldn't I couldn't dare to

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go above that because of your show, Because of all

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01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:19,199
these experiences that happened in twenty twenty three, specifically that

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01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:23,520
that video of your guest that was I had an

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experience for forty five minutes near that experience. For forty

1259
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five minutes, I was actually I found the boldness.

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Speaker 2: And the.

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Speaker 3: Valor to say, I'm gonna talk what I know is true.

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01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:43,319
I'm gonna start coming out instead of conforming. I'm going

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01:17:43,399 --> 01:17:45,720
to start doing my thing. At the beginning was rough

1264
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,680
and difficult, and I have to learn how to talk

1265
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:51,680
to a camera and how to do anything in YouTube

1266
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,680
because I never done that before. But it was a

1267
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:59,840
challenge that I couldn't do before this experience that happened

1268
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:02,720
is especially when I was able to lose up from

1269
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:10,920
the guilt and the fear from religion coming from you know, the.

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Speaker 1: Catholic Yeah, the Catholic dogmatic background. Thank you so much

1271
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for that. That's so beautiful to hear. I mean, I

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do the show, and you know, I put it out

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01:18:18,079 --> 01:18:20,000
in the world, and I have no idea sometimes what

1274
01:18:20,079 --> 01:18:23,359
it does to people watching, but it is service that

1275
01:18:23,399 --> 01:18:25,520
I'd like to do. But the reason I wanted to

1276
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bring that up is because it's an example of you awakening.

1277
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,279
It's an example of millions around the world who are

1278
01:18:32,319 --> 01:18:35,720
starting to awaken. And that is the hope for all

1279
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,479
of this, because what you're seeing in twenty thirty two

1280
01:18:39,359 --> 01:18:41,439
of an America that's a little bit more open and

1281
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:43,439
a little bit more kind and a little bit this

1282
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:48,479
or that. It needs people who are awakened to start

1283
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:51,720
doing it, very similar to you. So with and this

1284
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,079
is something that and I'd love to hear your thoughts

1285
01:18:54,119 --> 01:18:56,920
on this, but this is something I've always found when

1286
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:01,239
there is a great negative, one of the laws of

1287
01:19:01,279 --> 01:19:04,479
the universe is a great positive will go up to

1288
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:08,640
balance it. So World War two, a great negative came up,

1289
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but then the ally forces came up to meet it.

1290
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:15,760
It's never, it's never. Darth Vader completely knocking you out.

1291
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:19,039
There's always a look, there is always a Yoda, there's

1292
01:19:19,079 --> 01:19:23,840
always another force to balance that out, and this is

1293
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,359
another example of it. Yeah it's gonna look dark. Yeah,

1294
01:19:26,399 --> 01:19:29,600
there's gonna be some rough patches over the next seven

1295
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,920
or eight years, but there is a very positive force

1296
01:19:33,399 --> 01:19:36,520
coming up at the same time. We might not see

1297
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,920
it all the time, but it's there underneath it all.

1298
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:44,920
Kind of like the negative is. Over the last twenty years,

1299
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:49,119
say twenty twelve. From twenty twelve on, which is a

1300
01:19:49,199 --> 01:19:53,359
very significant year, from twenty twelve on, all the things

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01:19:53,399 --> 01:19:57,239
that were underneath, all the anger and the resentment and

1302
01:19:57,279 --> 01:20:01,279
the racism and all of that stuff started to bubble

1303
01:20:01,359 --> 01:20:05,640
up and started to come up. So it's always this balance.

1304
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,680
It's always these cycles that keep going around and around.

1305
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:13,159
That's the universe. I mean, the solar system itself. Our

1306
01:20:13,159 --> 01:20:18,359
solar system is an example of reincarnation. Every so many years.

1307
01:20:19,079 --> 01:20:23,119
The planets come back around every you know Haley's comment,

1308
01:20:23,239 --> 01:20:25,520
I was alive. You were alive when Haley's comic came.

1309
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,880
Now most people here don't. I got to see Haley's camera.

1310
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,079
I was in sixth grade. My teacher told me to

1311
01:20:30,079 --> 01:20:32,720
go outside and look, and I saw Haley's comment. So

1312
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,520
I actually saw Haley's COMPA Haley comic comes around every

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01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:39,760
seventy five years, right, and I might see it, who knows,

1314
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:43,880
I might see it in my lifetime again. But it's cyclical,

1315
01:20:44,279 --> 01:20:47,000
and there's so many things in our universe that are cyclical.

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This is one of those cycles. Is that all coincide

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with what you're seeing. Will be right back after a

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Speaker 3: And not only that I agree with you, but in

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addition to that, it is necessary because coming out actually

1321
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:15,199
makes people later on realize what I have done. If

1322
01:21:15,239 --> 01:21:18,079
you look at your past past years, when I look

1323
01:21:18,119 --> 01:21:20,960
at mine, I can see that everything that we're now

1324
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:24,560
seeing the collective right now, the rage and the hatred

1325
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,520
or the intolerance that we see right now very much

1326
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,560
reflected in the American society.

1327
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Speaker 1: And around the world too, by the way, and around.

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Speaker 3: The world as well, but we're talking about United States

1329
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specifically now. I mean I can see that in a

1330
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bigger or smaller degree. I also have done it in

1331
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:46,359
my own personal experiences. So because I had done those

1332
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,640
horrible things, or say those horrible things that I said

1333
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in the past or I heard someone. The memory of that,

1334
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:57,399
or becoming aware of what I did and said was

1335
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:03,000
actually made me realize, and then a change in my

1336
01:22:03,159 --> 01:22:07,039
soul was produced, more to be to become a more sensible,

1337
01:22:07,159 --> 01:22:13,359
more tolerant, more respectful, and also more forgiven with myself

1338
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and others, just because I remember I also was there.

1339
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I also did similar things in the biggers or smaller degree.

1340
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So the thin things, the same happens with this society.

1341
01:22:24,399 --> 01:22:26,359
You know, whatever is happening right now in the world,

1342
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:30,199
America or any part of the world that is negative,

1343
01:22:30,399 --> 01:22:34,279
it is necessary for the collective to wake up, to

1344
01:22:34,359 --> 01:22:36,880
see their darkness and say, there has to be a

1345
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:37,359
better way.

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01:22:38,039 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 2: Yep, how can I be like this? Like World War

1347
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Two was actually a big wake up for the whole world.

1348
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But we have enjoyed.

1349
01:22:47,199 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 3: We had the generation that actually enjoy a lot of

1350
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:53,560
years of peace and a more a society, more focused

1351
01:22:53,600 --> 01:23:01,079
on education and multiculturalism, understanding other nations. You nighting also

1352
01:23:01,119 --> 01:23:05,439
becoming a more global world just because of that ultraannationalism

1353
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:09,159
that was an in tournagance that was as a theme

1354
01:23:09,239 --> 01:23:11,359
of the World War two. Well, the same thing will

1355
01:23:11,359 --> 01:23:15,640
have it over again. We will be better because whatever

1356
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:20,239
is going on right now. Same in the personal life.

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Speaker 1: Hodie, Where can people find out more about you and

1358
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,119
the amazing work you're doing in the world, My friend.

1359
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:31,239
Speaker 3: My website is Astrogia or astrogia sometimes people pronounce that

1360
01:23:31,399 --> 01:23:35,359
like that is astrogia dot net and the YouTube channel.

1361
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:43,359
I have the same name Astrogia in YouTube, Astrogia in Instagram.

1362
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:47,359
I'm also opening now the English channel, which would be

1363
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:51,920
astrogia end. And that's another thing that was a challenge

1364
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,520
for me. You know, let's let's take over now, let's

1365
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:56,560
start to bring this to the English.

1366
01:23:56,239 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 2: World as well.

1367
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 3: I know there are many out there that do Australia

1368
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,439
in English, but I kind of felt that I had

1369
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:05,279
the confidence now to say, you know what, I also

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01:24:05,359 --> 01:24:07,640
have a lot of a lot to give in in

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this language, even when I have my Antonio's Mandera accent.

1372
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,119
That's a that's a defense that I use against my

1373
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:16,720
fear of my own accent.

1374
01:24:17,359 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 2: But it's very nice.

1375
01:24:19,159 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 1: It's very nice about it.

1376
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:24,600
Speaker 2: I laugh about it, Okay, I I'm Antonio. But yes,

1377
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as Trogia do net, that will be the website. Holda.

1378
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Speaker 1: It has been a pleasure speaking to you my friend.

1379
01:24:32,279 --> 01:24:34,439
I love your energy. I love the work that you're

1380
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,840
doing and what you're trying to do to help awaken

1381
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:41,039
this planet. So I appreciate you, brother and uh mucho

1382
01:24:41,119 --> 01:24:45,199
Mucco Veneciones, and you may you continue to do the

1383
01:24:45,199 --> 01:24:47,319
world the work that you're doing, my friend, So thank

1384
01:24:47,359 --> 01:24:52,199
you again for being on the show. Thank you for

1385
01:24:52,239 --> 01:24:55,439
spending this sacred time with us today. If you feel

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01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,479
called to explore this conversation further, you'll find the show

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