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to the show.
Speaker 2: Ho.
Speaker 1: Hey, okay, how.
Speaker 2: You doing doing well? Alex? Thank you very much for
inviting me.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you so much for coming on the show. Sir,
you are the first Cuban I've had on the show.
You are the very first. Give I have a six
hundred and something episodes. You are the first Cuban other
than me, of course, being on the show in every episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm the second one. You're the first one.
Speaker 1: I'm the first giving you are.
Speaker 3: You are second generation. I'm actually fresh Cuban, made and
assembling in Cuba itself.
Speaker 1: But I am purebread, so I have both my parents
cure pure bread.
Speaker 2: Yes, I am a pup.
Speaker 1: I'm a pure bread. I'm not a mix so but
I am. Yes, I'm first, I'm first generation a year,
born a year, but uh, but raised in Miami, so
it's kind of close, right.
Speaker 3: So Miami is like Havannah, North Havana. You know, it's
like it's like most popular or most Cuban city in
the world. Besides how yes, it's definitely important for us.
Speaker 1: But my friend, I'm so glad you here. You're here.
I wanted to I wanted to have you one because
I've had another astrologers on, but I have not had
an astrologer from your perspective, from the Latin American kind
of angle of it, what kind of astrology do you
actually practice or study?
Speaker 3: Okay, so within the astrology we have different schools, and uh,
within that school there are specializations like for example, my
school is called Hellenistic or traditional astrology, so it's basically, uh,
it's more rooted into second century till the seventh century
type of astrology, the traditional, very conservative astrology. And within
that school I have my specialty is actually elective astrology.
You know, I'm a little bit nervous right now. Okay,
so this is a big deal to be in your show.
So I'm kind of struggling because of that because I'm
excited to.
Speaker 1: Trunk. Relax. It's all good, brother, don't worry about it. Here,
you're with family, my friend.
Speaker 2: You're.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. So Elective astrology is basically a branch. No,
it's not a branch, it's actually a practice or a
technique where we find of specious time to schedule things
to do, things to close a business, to open a business. Also,
I specialize in astro cartography, which is relocational astrology, finding
the best places in the world where you can actually
take advantage of the energy depending on the area of
your life that you want to improve. That's actually more
like a falls more into the modern type of astrology,
a modern technique more than anything, and electional astrology, which
is finding auspicious time for anything. You know, from the
very beginning of astrology, one of the main purpose of
astrologery is actually forecasting, you know, kings and the powerful.
The powerful in the world. They wanted to know if
we're going to be able to win a war, or
make an important decision or avoid certain things. So the
astrology job at that time was actually forecasting finding the
right time and also the right the right people to
feed in for whatever project, the powerful, the novel, the king,
whatever was was about to start.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: So, electional astrology is basically preparing for for the best
time to start or to stop doing something that was
also the exit is also very important. Now Hellenistic astrology. Uh,
the difference between the Hellenistic astrology and the modern school
is basically that we we give to the aspects of
the planet. We give in certain occasions we give a
very narrow orb, which is a distance of one planet
to another to form an angle. At the same time,
we also have another you know, we have an ample
option because the degrees was was actually something implemented later on.
But we are more conservative in the way that we
treat the angles, and we consider with certain skepticism the
modern planets like Pluto, Pluto, Neptune, and Uranus. So those
are planets that we do pay attention to, but we
don't give them the importance the weight of the traditional planets,
or for example, we don't provide we don't give them
a rulership to a specific sign like I'll give you
an example, a Neptune. The modern austrology call it the
ruler of Pizis. For example. We do consider Neptune, but
we don't give them rulership or Uranus is the rule
of Aquarius. But we respect that, we observe that, but
there is not enough time to give the enough weight
that we assigned to Saturn as the traditional ruler of
Aquarius like for example, or another example will be uh brutal.
It's a new planet is recently discovered. We're talking about
three hundred years. Astrology is a millionary uh uh millionary science.
And and that's another thing that we we pay more
attention to Mars as the rule of Scorpion instead of Plu.
Speaker 2: Now we do keep him in check.
Speaker 3: We do pay attention to those planets, but again as
a psychic to to provide context, not necessarily to give
the full weight regarding also, for example, one of the
things that we differentiate maybe from the traditional or the
modern astrologers is that although other practices like the road
and other divine or occultest practices, we see more astrology
as a scientific or as a science. If you if
you google it or you check and chudgept whatever you
want use. What would be the definition of a science
is basically the study through time, through our senses of
an object. Those findings must be documented and they have
to be reproducible. And I always explain that that astrology
feed that criteria perfectly well. Because history is actually like
a blockchain for us. You can quote any war, any
any any any problems in the world, or any great event.
And we're always going to find a similar pattern with
planets and and and the different type of relationship with
between these planets malefical benefics that that confirm that astrology
is actually reproducible, that is actually real. As a matter
of fact, that's another thing that I always explained, we
are not psychics.
Speaker 2: We are actually like a musician reading.
Speaker 3: A chart, like like a like a party of musical notes,
and that those notes or that bulletin board is actually
published by the creator on the on the heavens and
on the sky, and we read that chart. And the
reason why we can predict what is going to happen
is because we have seen the same part and repeating
in the past, producing those results over and over and over.
And because of that, we can actually say, hey, coming
this year or this month or whatever time period, something
similar is going to happen. Now, yes, there are.
Speaker 2: You know. I think that astrology also.
Speaker 3: Brings a perspective that there is a creator, And probably
that's why other practices, spiritual practices or cult practices include astrology,
because one of the key things that astrology has.
Speaker 2: Is that it proves.
Speaker 3: By amazement that there is a creator.
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Speaker 3: And one of the wonderful things about that is that
you can see that there is a synchronicity, a relationship
between charts, like for example, events are happening for the
life of a child is reflected on the parents' chart,
and vice versa, and with your spouse. So how come
we can see that connectivity or that synchronicity between the
charts of the relatives if there is no a supreme
intelligence coordinating everything. I think that that's the reason why
the late eighteen seventeen hundreds Australia was Buddha side. You know,
there's in Europe the rationalism and giving more importance to
the to free will and and the reason Buddhasia astrology
because one of the things that that science does is
actually that confirms that it has to be a creator.
There is no random thing. Our life is actually very
well coordinated and arrange in a way that has a purpose.
That's another point of Hellenistic astrology astrology. We do a
lot of emphasis in the eternal argument of free will
or fate. What is the real thing you know, hellenistic
astrology will be more fatalistic in the sense that we
don't believe in random or that you have the option
to overcome or take that as a challenge and you
can turn it into a complete turnaround. We're more fatalistic
in the sense that what we see in a chart
basically describe your potentiality and also your capacities and your
free will is limited by your ability, the one that
is reflected on the chart, so there is no deviation
that you you can actually become yourself. Let's say a
sport start a sport a start when you actually are
not built for that. One of the things that I
actually I actually explaining my in my YouTube channel is
that when you are born, that NATO charge uh that
is reflected on the sky, that at that moment that
is reflected on the sky is like a software configuration
or a software that is done load or firmware that
is injected into you, and that gives you all the
potentiality or capacity that you have to become whatever you are.
Speaker 2: The more you.
Speaker 3: Become acquainted, comfortable accept your true nature, the one that
you were designed for, the happier you become and the
more successful you become. Instead of fighting what you don't
like about your life, you just use what works and
then try to understand the reasons on why you were
conditioned maybe not to perform as well in another areas.
It's sometimes I even use movies. I like to use
a lot of metaphors to explain how that works. For example,
I don't know if you remember, have you watched The
Matrix the first part?
Speaker 1: Stop insulting me, sir, please stop insulting me. I talk
about The Matrix on this show constantly. Of course, I've
seen that.
Speaker 2: It's my favorite movie.
Speaker 3: Well, I watch it over and over because the more
I watch it, the more I discover things. But there
is a there is an important thing that I connect
with astrology, and I'll tell you what it is. The
moment that Neil goes and talks to the oracle and
she takes out of the out of her persont candy
and tells him do you want candy?
Speaker 1: And that would be the That would be part two,
by the way, just so it's part too. That's part
two on the bench right before they start fighting with
mister Smith. Sorry, you're walking you're walking into my world now,
my friend. Movies, Oh, yes, that's part two. It's very
clear and a very important scene in his right.
Speaker 3: Neil told her, listen, if you really if you're an oracle,
you know why? I mean, you know if if I
will take the candidate or not? And she als, of
course I know, otherwise I wouldn't be a good oracle.
But you didn't come here to know whether you will
make a decision to take it or not. You came
here to understand why you made that decision. The same
thing happens with Australia, and that's the perspective of Hellenistic astrology.
We don't come over here to try to be different,
but to understand why we are designed the way we
were designed.
Speaker 2: And he has a connection with yeah, let me stop.
Speaker 1: Let me stop you there for a second. It because
when you're saying you're designed the way you're designed is
an idea that I talk about on the show a lot,
which is like you and I are not going to
play in the NFL or in the NBA. We weren't
designed to do that. That's that physically we don't have
the attributes to do that. I'm not gonna be an
astronautic because I can't do math. Basically, you know, it's
not something I was done, But what I am designed
to do is what I'm doing, whether it be this
show or movies or content or you know, creating media
or things like that. That is what I was designed
to communication, exact mass communication. That's kind of what I
was designed to do, and I was given skill sets
to do that. Could I try to do those other things, sure,
but I'm not gonna get far because I'm just not
built that way. I'm never gonna be Arnold Schwarzenegger. You know,
I'm never gonna be a bodybuilder because my genetics doesn't
carry that. I could probably do as far as I can,
but there is a limit. So when you're saying fatalistic
in regards to your chart, what I find fascinating about
that is that we all have this blueprint that we're
laid out with and there things that will and this
kind of goes into the near death experience sole blueprint
idea where on the other side, you choose I'm going
to be this person. I'm gonna be that person, I'm
gonna have this parent, I'm gonna be born in this
culture at this specific time in history because I'm getting
ready for whatever I want to experience that And I
kind of understand that idea because just looking back at history,
I'm like, well, I wonder what it would have been
like to be in Rome. I wonder what it would
have been like to be growing up in the fifties.
You know, these kind of these kinds of ideas. So
I kind of understand that. But the idea is that
you're thrown into these in this environment, and certain things
you have no choice over. There's because we all have
free will, but there's certain things. So I didn't have
quote unquote a choice once I got here, where I lived,
who my parents were in this world. On the other side,
I had the choice of what I wanted, but once
I got here, It's exactly what you're just saying with
Neo and the Oracle. You now have to understand why
you chose this path and why these things are happening
to you. So a lot of things that have up
to you, whether they be relationships, whether they be accidents,
whether they be trauma, whether they be super you know
you're super wealthy, you're born into a super billionaire family,
or you're born dirt poor. You have to understand why
you were put in those scenarios and then kind of
just the only thing we have control of is how
we react to these situations and circumstances that life gives us.
And I do believe that we can overcome certain things.
But I can overcome my parents, parents are my parents.
I can't overcome that I was born in you know,
in South Florida. That's just what I want. There's nothing
I can overcome there. Those are just facts. But could
I change things? There is there's in my opinion, and
please correct me, there is kind of a a little
bit of guardrails up, but there is space for you
to bump around within that scenario. Does that make sense
to you?
Speaker 3: It makes sense, And later on we're going to connect
it also with life experience, instance and diagnosis. But yes,
the reason, yes, there are things that you cannot and
there are all the things that become actually a super
power after you become a stronger. I give you an example, Cairn.
In your chart, it might it might reflected the wound
that you might be fighting your whole life to fifty.
But then when you become fifteen, you have your first
and your last hole as you become a vampire or
something like that. But once you become fifty, that actually
that return of Cairo becomes your superpower. Is like before
it was something to what is hurting you very much,
and then it becomes the greatest gift that the God
assigned to your life. Yes, you have to work it
out and become a master in that area. That's one
example I like to explain that. The point is that
in this life astrology astrology cannot describe what is happening
before your life, this present life, and in the future
in another plan, you know, another life after this one
as surely it is about this world right now. And
I totally agree with you that before we are incarnated,
we have absolute free will, well not absolute, but more
like absolute free will. And I will explain why I say,
I don't think this is absolute. But once you come
down here, you have to work your contract. So that's
that's another thing that I always this like. For example,
I use names or metaphors to describe what is a
natal chart, Like I call it the the script that
you're about to perform, your your contract for this life,
the software that was installed, a letter that is opening
opening up a little but a little.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: The the older you become, I want to connect that
to past life. For example, one of the things that
I always explain is that astrology cannot uh describe anything
else from another world because there is no confirmation that
is actually reality.
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Speaker 3: You know, it's black and white. There is no connection,
a real connection between astrology and another philosophy of life
or religion. That's something that we add on later on
because it's black and white. But there are answers that
are not in a chart. And then we need to justify.
You're trying to find out why, for example, a person
is not born with a lot more luck, why his
life or her life is so challenging. Well, that might
be coming from another life, but astrology itself cannot show
you that. Now, there is another school of astrology called
evolutionary astrology that actually tries to find those missing links
with all the lives, but we don't have a real
scientific information. When I say scientific is that it has
to be really documented and reproduced through time. So evolutionary
astronomy we have to assume that what they're saying is true.
But nobody had come from another life to come from
you right, you are having these aspects in your chart
because you carrying on some duties from the previous life.
Now regarding the other life experiences, one of the things
that happened to me before I actually became became public
as an astrologer is that I passed past a year
long in a therapy course or and my last class,
my last three months was actually trans personal hypnosis. And
it took me completely by surprise, because by nature I
am very skeptical. You know, I have mercury in aquarius.
I need to find out everything before I actually accept
it as a fact. So I'm like Saint Thomas, I
need to test in order to believe. And one of
the things that happened in one of those experiences is
that I actually had the opportunity, and that's the most
beautiful memory that I have from my past live regression
to plan my life in the in the in that
time of between lives, right, I had the experience of planning,
and I remember that I actually was selecting or trying
to argue with that light being that was actually instructing me.
Speaker 2: I called that light being.
Speaker 3: Uh, my master. I was actually to select some experiences
that I didn't want to live, and some of them
were allowed me to skip, but some of them basically
this being told me, no, you have to go through it.
Speaker 2: So in a.
Speaker 3: Previous life or in between lives you have I can
say that, based on my personal experience, you have the
freedom to choose some of the things that are the
themes that you're going to experience in.
Speaker 2: In this uh, in this time. But once you get in,
once you come.
Speaker 3: Back here, uh, the condition is already set up. And
I believe that the chart is actually uh the software
that is install of the contract that you signed before
you were born. Then to perform here, to to develop
it over here makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes it.
Speaker 3: I see it like like over here, we are limited
by the abilities and the contract that we signed before
we came here, before we came Astrology itself doesn't tell
you that. I'm assuming that that's the way, because I
also had another experience where I can actually saw that
we have some some level of choosing, some some capacity
of choosing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask you how old is this version
of astrology, because this is a this is an arm
of it that I have not I've not heard of.
Speaker 3: It is actually the oldest version of astrology. Hellenistic astrology
is the blend of Babylonian, Egyptian and Greek traditions and
it developed between the second century before Christ till seventh
centuries after Christ. You know our era, but it's actually
the most documented, well known uh, and the oldest form
of astrology from there, from those roots, at least in
the Western world. Because there is another type of astrology
which is obviously connected to us, but their brand child
with their own flavor, which is a vertic astrology.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: In our astrology, Yeah, Butanese astrology is not connected to ours.
Speaker 2: Like vertic astrology is very similar. It's the same.
Speaker 3: Root, but they have different different perspectives, like for example,
they we give more importance to the ascendant. They give
more importance to the to the moon, to the moon sign.
They have all the things that probably we lost because
of the Christian in positions through the culture. Like for example,
we have a technique that was recently, very recently discovered
or translated into the modern world which is actually very antique.
It's called so diaker releasing is a technique of timing
where basically they we can actually see important events that
are happening in your life like a schedule day by day,
week by week, month by month, or year by year.
They're very castralogy because they did not have this problem
with Christianity. They've flourished and they have something similar to
what we call so diaker releasing, but it's a lot
more developed and.
Speaker 2: More accurate.
Speaker 3: If you want, I don't, I don't record right now
the name of that technique.
Speaker 2: I know the name is just right now.
Speaker 3: It doesn't come to my mind, but it's similar to that,
so that I a releasing and and I think that
it was lost or they gradated a lot because of
the burning of libraries and persecutions, so anyone that thought
differently through throughout the two thousand years of Christianity. But
astrology itself, that the Hellenistic astrology is actually the more
the oldest version of austrology that we have, and from
there we have new branches like psychological astrology, we have
evolutionary astrology, astro cartography. All those are techniques or a
school of austrology that are actually more recent. You know,
it's more it's more in tune to the New Age
type of world. And it's also mixed up sometimes a
lot of times with more spiritual disciplines. Hellenistic tends to be,
although it does not reject the spiritual world and other disciplines.
Hele Anistic Australia had to be more into the more pure.
If you want, it's not a we our best. That
doesn't mean that. It means that we are more like
restrictive in what we include, more conservative. Put it the
way for a planet or anything as surely to be
considered respected, we have to have a lot of centuries evidence,
a lot of a study and observation through our many
centric antic astrology is a millionary discipline. The modern Australia
and the modern disciplines are more like maybe two hundred,
three hundred years, maybe less.
Speaker 1: But I asked this to other astrologers. I wanted to
ask you, have you ever gone back to a master
and followed their charts. So obviously we don't know exactly
when Jesus was born, okay, I use him, or Buddha
was born. We don't have those numes. But we have
someone like Yoga Nanda or many of these other yogic
you know, being that were masters while they were year
but they were in recent times, within the last hundred years.
They were alive, so there is actual records of when
they were born. Have you ever just done the exercise
to go back to a master and kind of got
see what the stars were saying and if it like.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, specifically Jesus Christ or Jesus.
Speaker 1: Because we don't what's the day, what's the date?
Speaker 3: Well, the exact day we don't have, but for example,
we have an important date, which is the day of
the crucifixion. And that's the reason why we can actually
go back to the date is because the Gospels has
actually described what happened. You know, there was an eclipse,
it was before passover. There are clues and science Israel
they use a moon calendar. We can see which one
was the date or the time that this was happening.
I don't recall exactly the time because that is study.
Actually did it a couple of years ago and haven't
touched it again. But I remember when I actually was
reading the chart of the time of the moment of
the crucifixion, I had a mixed reaction of excitement, euphoria, laughed, laughter,
I was laughing like crazy and crying at the same
time of excitement. Because my background is actually Christian dogmatic.
I started to be a Catholic priest. That's another thing
which is connected from astrology. As a matter of fact,
one of the modern systems house systems that we use Placidus.
It was actually popularized by a Catholic priest and in
Italy classically carries his name. But I remembered that because
I couldn't understand the theological and biblical.
Speaker 2: Part of it.
Speaker 3: When I was actually seeing the chart of the moment
of the crucifixion and the eclipse that was happening at
the time, and all and everything that was going on,
and all the positions. I remember the key points that
I was telling me the combination, uh, you know that
the Son, the aspect that the Son was doing to Jupiter. Uh,
the opposition to Saturn. Uh. I don't remember all the details,
but the position with the with Virgo, what was happening
in the sound of Virgo reflecting the sorrow of Mary
at the mother at the moment at the foot of
the cross. I mean, it was a combination of things
that was telling me definitely, definitely there was something divine
going on with this guy.
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Speaker 3: I wish I can recall more details of that chart
is a is a very clear uh, but I don't
recall right now all the details. If you want, we
can actually do a second part just for that chart itself.
Speaker 2: But I remember that it.
Speaker 3: Was an explosion of joy and amazement and I laughed
because God has a sense of humor. That's one of
the things that I actually learned, the sense of humor
of the Creator. And my mind exploded at the moment
in many emotions, like I couldn't hold it. He was
very strong. But yes, it is an impactful, an impactful thing.
And if you actually go back to thirty three years before,
and that's another thing that we had to fight with
the calendar when actually Jesus was born, it seems that
he was born actually in the second century before Christ.
So when we look at the chart of Christ itself,
although we don't have a completely defined date of his birth,
the slow planets positions at the time that possibly the
time that he was born was well described in an
important person. One key point that we do have about
his birth is actually the conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter.
Uh sat on the wise by experience that represents also
the evil side of the divine forces and Jupiter the
wise by divine inspiration, the magnificent Jupiter. And that's one
of the things that actually was followed by by the
Three Kings, the famous tream magic magis. They were not kings,
they were not magis. There were actually three astrologers. Matthew
two actually reflects that as well. There is actually literally
in Matthew two, Chapter two, there is actually a description
of what would be uh a transit, a transits a
consultation when Herold the King asked the three Magi, tell,
you know, check really well stands when you're seeing you're
watching the start and we know that Jupiter takes about
a year to move from one side to another, their
Saturn takes about two years and a half. And noticed
that a few verses down the keen order to kill
anyone under two years old, you know, born within a
period of two years, because that's the time frame of
the conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter. So that was that
is you know, I don't have all the details in
my head.
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, that's fascinating.
Speaker 3: Definitely in that chart, that a proximity that the proximity
of that his bird chart, and specifically that's the one
that I studied. The chart of the data of the
crossifixion is mind blowing and definitely confirms that there was
something divine about that person, something very special.
Speaker 1: That's very that's actually fascinating. It would be an interesting
example exercise to kind of go back to different masters
that walked around at certain times in history just to
see what their charts are like. But I'm assuming you've
also gone back to just recent history and see if
the charts lined up, so like when World War One
starts wor World War two starts with you know this
happened or that happened, the Civil War, these kind of
I'm just using American wars vers as references because those
are very large things that happened to humanity, especially the
World wars. Did you have you done that exercise and
have you gone back and do things lined up?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: And that's one of the reason why I move out
of the United States to Spain and now planning to
move to Argentina.
Speaker 2: So let me explain that.
Speaker 3: So we are right now in a cycle that is
repeating science the French Revolution. So we have, for example,
a planet like Pluto, a modern planet that moves or
does a revolution every two hundred and forty eight years
and now has returned to our aquarius, which is the
signed that inspires freedom and rebellion from the people, from
the chains, from the oppression of of the powerful. There
is also another aspect of that planet. Plual is out
of bounds. I mean there is a road like like
expressway or a road that the planet should go right
in order to be considered in a normal position. Let's
put it away in a in aspect to the sun.
But when that planet goes above or beyond those boundaries,
we call that they.
Speaker 2: Are out of bounds.
Speaker 3: And in this case, for example, the one that we
are right now, like in the times of the French Revolution,
Pluto is out of bounds to the south, which means
that the long, slow moving planet, the energy that this
planet is actually bringing to the world is actually a
time of freedom from oppression, freedom from control.
Speaker 2: And you see what.
Speaker 3: Is happening right now, You say, how can that be
happening when we see a lot more control building up.
Speaker 2: Yes, there is.
Speaker 3: Another planet, a slow planet. It's a modern planet as
well that was discovered recently Uranus that was actually line
up or returning into.
Speaker 2: Gemini. Right, So let's go back to the French Revolution.
Speaker 3: At that time, we had a Pluto in Aquarius and
we also had Uranus in Gemini, and that's what gave
birth not only to the French Revolution but also to
the American Revolution Independence War. Right now, after two hundred
and forty years, now we are two hundred and fifty.
Pluto is back in Aquarius, bringing the same theme of
a liberation from oppression. But there is a cycle that
is repeating it for specifically for the United States, that
happens every eighty four year, which is the return of
Uranus into Gemini. The first time that it happened was
the Independence War. Eighty four years later we have in
eighteen sixty one, we have the Civil War. Eighty four
years later we have World War Two, and guess what,
twenty twenty six, we're gonna have again the return without
going back of Uranus into Germani. And that's gonna be
a long period like eight years that is going to
be working, but it's gonna be coinciding or touching or
doing a conjunction with the native position of Uranus in
the native chart of the United States, and later on
by twenty eight. It's twenty twenty eight is going to
be touching the native mars of the United States. So yes,
the partent that we had during the Civil War, during
the Independence and French Revolution, Civil War, World War two,
we have it right now. And you can see it
reflected in the environment that we have within the United States.
Not only because the United States kind of like approaching
or or playing with the possibilities with the international war,
but there is also domestic like for example, all Another
similarity is that during the Civil War we had a
Neptune transiting in areas, right and that Neptune was actually
doing an aspect of opposition with Saturn. Right now, what
we have is actually, in my opinion, worse than that opposition.
Speaker 2: That we had during the Civil War.
Speaker 3: We actually had the union the conjunction of Saturn and
Neptune inside of the of areas, which is similar to
what happened during the Civil War. So I expect that
because of that, uh, the tensions within the United States
are going to grow even stronger and stronger. But it's
gonna be even more expanded beyond the borders of the
United States.
Speaker 2: Actually, it's going to be I think it's.
Speaker 3: Going to be becoming a global conflict worse than what
we have ever seen before. And that's the reason why
we're pointing down or looking considered in moving down to Argentina,
because you see in the modern war and this is
not astrology. Remember I don't have psychic powers, but if
you see the modern war, the modern wars, like for example,
in Ukraine, you can see that today's war are not
based on tanks and a lot of soldiers, you know,
we see more like, uh, the buzzing of the what
is it called the the the drones, the bossing of
the dolls drop dropping bombs and finding artificial intelligence being
used to detect and find the enemy and execute an attack.
Speaker 2: And it could be even worse.
Speaker 3: Remember Pluto is a planet that we also associated with
atomic energy and it was actually discovered when men actually
started playing with the energy for that purpose for military use.
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Speaker 3: And we have it also in a sign that is
actually doing that has a relationship with motor energies, is
also forming a trind with Uranus, another planet that has
to do with these type of energies in Gemini. So
We're going to see an explosion of energies that are
more focused or connected to military military use. Just because
we have the same repetitions of our parties that we
have in previous war, I can say that the North
Heavi sphere, which has been basically the scenario of all
the by wars in our history and basically in the
last two thousand and three thousand years, I can foresee
that something big is I mean, where United States is
going to be may a mayor player. And that's the
reason why we move out of the United States a
year before even we had the president administration, because I
saw I told my family, listen, things are going to
get worse and worse in the United States. It's time
to move out. I always said that I'd like to
be early, a year before than a day late, because
I knew what is coming. Now from Spain, we're actually
watching what is going on in the United States and
we I'm not amazed. I'm just confirming that things are
just warming up for a lot more tensions that will
start specifically next year after you know, twenty twenty six,
after April twenty twenty six. From that, Uranus finally move
into areas and we have the conjunction of Saturn and
and a Neptune getting strong within areas and Uranus in Gemini.
We're going to see that the tensions, the social thing
and the problem that we're we're gonna have within the
United States are going to be increasing and getting more more.
Speaker 2: Difficult to tolerate.
Speaker 3: It's in my opinion, it's going to be an archaotic
than that we really want or expect.
Speaker 1: Now with all of this, you know again, I had
I talked to so many different people for so many
different walks of life that psychics, channelers, mediums, astrologers. Nothing
that you're saying is surprising. It's all kind of like
twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven, It kind of it
starts to cool off around twenty thirty two, is what
I'm hearing. Is that what you see as well.
Speaker 3: Yes, twenty thirty three will be the day or the
year that you might hope to return back to the
United States, which is not going to be the same
after that, because it does another thing that I've been
analyzing for the next ten years.
Speaker 2: We're going to see a complete decline of the United
States as a world superpower.
Speaker 3: And I see another empire of power rising up, which
is China. I was actually analysed in China's charge, and
I see that all the events that are actually creating
the decline the United States are becoming an opportunity to
rise up even more powerful for China.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I'll give you an example, the return of Pluto. Pluto
when the United States was created, a creator or born
in nine seventeen seventy six was in Aquarius. And usually
the empires fall when we have a return of Pluto,
or we have at least the second return or the
third return, the most right, the same happy with the
British Empire, with the Roman Empire.
Speaker 2: Well, guess what the.
Speaker 3: United States already had because the retrogation retrogressions, we had
actually two returns of Pluto. We have Pluto coming to
the axcept point of Earth, which is twenty seven degrees
of Capricorn, and then later on we had another retrograd
Pluto into that degree, which it signals to me that
the times for America to be great again is a
long time passed. And this is not a political estatement,
it's an astrological observation period. So we're going to see
the decline of the United States like any other empire
with their footprint and power in the world.
Speaker 1: So with that said, so something like the British Empire obviously,
and for people listening that might be freaking out a
little bit in regards to you saying that. And again,
nothing of this is surprising. This is other astrologers have
said the exact same thing, that in the way the
cycle is running, that the US Empire will weaken while
the Chinese Empire will strengthen. That but the British Empire,
which was a world power at a time, they're still
fairly powerful as a country in this on this planet
you and so is France, and so is many of
the older empires that were world empires have have weakened,
but there's still, you know, something to be reckoned with.
So it's not like tomorrow that the United States is
going to turn into a third world country by any stretch.
That's not happened. Maintain a certain amount of strength and power.
But it seems like they're eating we're eating ourselves from
the inside essentially.
Speaker 2: I see it this way.
Speaker 3: No, the United States is not going it's not going
to become a third world country. That's not what I meant,
you know, the empires. Once they lose their power to
submit and control others, they become legacy type of empires.
Like I'll give you an example right now, for example,
the United States, because they might of.
Speaker 2: The of the army or the of the of the military.
Speaker 3: Military weapons, they can super word a baseless currency called dollar,
which is the FIA dollar, which has not whatsoever backup
of any kind but the full credit and good will
by fear by force of the of the military of
the United States. I think that is going to change
big time, like the dollar will have to find a
backup with a real money like goal or something else
in order to survive the new world, or we can
actually become use another type of currency, but definitely something
The capacity of the United States to impose sanctions financially
in other countries is going to completely disappear. But the power,
the military power probably also will be not as determinant
as dominant in the world like it is today that
you can actually impose a lot of fears or control
or have basis all over the world. That is going
to diminish, like for example, give an example, the British Empire.
The British Empire is not any more what it used
to be. But it's a legacy empire that has a
common wealth, a common wealth that a lot of people share, culture, share,
share self interest or history with that empire. Or I
give you the example of the Spanish Empire that has
no meaning whatsoever military or or economically to any part
of the world, but there is a strong connection with
any country that expects Spanish and anything that was actually
produced by the Spanish Empire during those centuries.
Speaker 2: You can see it.
Speaker 3: For example, when any of us hispanic returned to Spain
our motherland, our mother or country land. We call it
a way, you know, we can see the similarity of
the culture.
Speaker 2: The fools, the religions there that connects.
Speaker 3: So we have that empire like type of connection. They
have a strong voice because it's our mother but it's
not anymore what it used to be. I see United
States transition into something like that, maybe another power of
second degree or third degree, let's say second degree at first.
But China is becoming what the United States is today,
Dominant in technology, dominant in the financial world, even dominant militarily,
so they will be the ones imposing sanctions another when
things don't go their way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the other thing I wanted to ask you is
the cyclical aspect of what you were talking about, like
empires falling and you know every three hundred years or
something like that, you can kind of see what was
going on. But there was an empire that ran, and
there's many empires that ran for longer, but the one
that's in the most recent history is Rome. So the
Roman Empire, to my understanding, wasn't power for over almost
a thousand years if history serves me correct. So cyclically,
a lot of the things that you're talking about would
have happened during the run of the Roman Empire. But
yet the Roman Empire didn't fall. It might have faltered
in you know, year three hundred, a year six hundred,
if it's a cycle that goes in. So what happened
there was it just lack of other powers, And that's
why I just stayed there. There wasn't a China, there
wasn't a Britain, or there wasn't a France that could
jump in and take over the world power because Rome
was a world power in the most recent years of
the last two thousand years. There were obviously longer with
the Byzantine and.
Speaker 3: Aria West, the eastern part of the empire. Well, don't
expect that it will fall overnight.
Speaker 2: It's not going to be that way. It's going to be.
Speaker 3: A transition into another level or another degree, and then
the other one takes over. But I'm talking about it
a range of fifteen years. For the next fifteen years,
it's going to be a lot more. It's going to
be sooner faster than what we actually want. But it's
going to happen gradually.
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Speaker 2: Roman Empire.
Speaker 3: Yes, disappear as an empire, but actually whatever they left
it didn't actually completely was it raised from history or
from you know, all the cultures, the barbarians and the
different cultures that invader destroyed that unity that we call
Roman Empire. They actually accepted and adopted and actually in
a way they tried to rescue it later on by
calling you know, the new Holy Roman Empire and creating
new ways of reviving that new empire, that empire.
Speaker 1: So isn't it Isn't it true though, that the Roman
Empire never actually fell. It just turned into the Vatican.
It turned into the all that wealth, All all that
wealth went somewhere. All that gold went somewhere. So the
Roman that and I don't want to get into the
go down the rabbit hole of the Vatican and the Roman,
the Roman Roman Catholic Church and all that, but a
lot of it went into Rome. And because I was
standing at when I was standing in the Vatican, and
I've said this before and I'll say it again, it
was the stupidest thing I've ever thought of. I've been
a Roman, I was a Roman raised, Roman Catholic all
my life, went to Catholic school, the whole ball away.
I still feel guilty about it.
Speaker 2: So Catholic.
Speaker 1: I am a recovering Catholic. But the thing is that
when I was in Rome, standing at the Vatican, at
Saint Peter's at St. Peter's Basilica, I'm sitting there and
I'm looking at it, and I go, oh, my god, Rome,
Roman Catholic Church. I never connected the Roman Empire with
the Catholic Church, but that's what it was. It was
the Rome exactly. Of course, I was a little slow
on the uptake for me, but it was it was like,
oh my god, Rome turned into the Catholic Church, and
then all of this stuff, and then and then you
start going into the council and you obviously studied or
were going to become a priest. So but how the
Bible was written, the Council of Nicee Constantine and all
of that. Then I was just like, oh my god,
this is this is so that's where Rome went. The
British Empire has turned into what it is today. Very powerful,
very powerful country, but it's not a world power. It
is a very I mean, you don't want to mess
with with Britain, you know. But if China wanted with Britain, Britain.
Speaker 2: Really couldn't they themselves.
Speaker 1: They couldn't, you know, they would need the help of
the United States and pretty much the rest of Europe.
And even then I'm not quite sure what would happen.
We might blow ourselves up up at that point.
Speaker 3: Right, right, yeah, Well, the Catholic Church basically, yes, it's
the continuation of the Roman Empire, but more as a
political cultural part of the empire. Right still has the
persuasion from a political perspective and historical perspective and psychological
perspective that the Roman Empire has, and as a matter
of fact, it has the power of unity that the
Roman Empire had around all the cultures that were within
the Roman Empire. The same thing happened with the Catholic Church.
You can go anywhere, whether it's a Catholic church or
a Catholic community, you're going to see a very common
team pointing to Rome, right, with their own distinctive but
very very much Roman, very much like the Italian Church.
I mean it's not far yes in that sense, yes,
but I don't think the United States has the rich
and the power that the Catholic or the Roman Empire has.
For example, Spain, Spain was actually a country that was
actually conquered by Roma, right, But today the Spaniers they
feel proud to be descendant or or share the Latin culture,
the culture of the Roman Empire. Uh, you know, the
conquerors suddenly became not the enemy, but they became actually
something to be proud of. Again, it didn't happen overnight,
because I'm pretty sure that when Romans came into into
the Peninsula, into into Spain, the native were not that happy.
But the transition progressively was turning that culture into a
new era. The same thing probably will happen with the
world in general. The United States will uh will lose
up a little bit there if you want their pride
of being the greatest and the best country in the world,
which is not.
Speaker 1: Listen, we're number one where listen, we're thirty second in math,
you know, twenty seventh in science, but number one in confidence.
That's right, that's right, But that's but that's the that's
the propaganda. I mean when I was I was raised here,
so you got here at seventeen. I was raised so
I was pretty insulated for most of my life until
I started to travel the world. And when I started
to travel the world, I started seeing other cultures, start
seeing other countries, and then looking back at the United
States and the propaganda, not the propaganda, but the media,
the Hollywood. I come from from that world. That's what
we exported our culture. And for a long time, the
US culture, American culture. Everybody wanted KFC, everybody wanted blue jeans,
everybody wanted everything that was America. Where now other countries,
I mean, look at Korea, for God's sake, South Korea,
the k pop revolution. You know, it's insane in Spain,
sending out, sending over you know, amazing content on Netflix
and things so all these kind of thing. Now other
cultures are starting to take over popular culture. When the
Americans had it locked down for I'd argue probably from
the fifties on. Yeah, I'd say from the fifties on,
they had a run about fifty sixty years that everybody
was all about American culture. But now there's this mixture
of so many other different different countries that are starting
to put their culture out in the world place as well.
Speaker 3: And I see that happening in the United States after
year t one thirty three, where America is gonna it's
going to open up to older cultures, languages, and be
more tolerant. And I actually celebrate like Spain now celebrates
the conquerors Rome. Eventually Spain, I mean, the United States
will be also like for example, when you see, even
though the American has a lot of influence too with
Hollywood and music and all that in the world, when
you see, for example, from the perspective of Europe, that
America is only is so focused on English only, when
the beauty of speaking more than one language is such
an amazing improvement for your mind and your soul. I mean,
it's laughable when you see that America or English only
like for example. That's another thing. I think that America
is also going to evolve into being more like Europe,
more tolerant and open. The reason why I think that
way because the new society that is coming after these,
the our times that is approaching, is going to be
more focused on the value of humanity, not on the
value of might or power, things like that. Plural in
a quir is going to bring, like in the French Revolution,
going back to astrology, it's going to bring a sense
of freedom from whatever is oppressing the world.
Speaker 2: You know, I say, you know people, they see a.
Speaker 3: Lot of control digital id uh CB, you know, the
digital currency, to control how you spend your money, social credit,
that kind of stuff. Yes, that is gonna to a point,
is gonna bring the world to a point of I
can't take it anymore, and then we're gonna become free
of that. Why because Pluto out of bound to the
south in Aquarius is gonna turn all the technical oppression
and the oppression from the world, from the from the
superpowers or the governments into a revolution where we're gonna
be inclined more into respecting our fellow human looking for
something more transcendental in our life, not necessarily just this.
Speaker 2: Life, or or being only very individualistic.
Speaker 3: That's another thing that I actually experience when I moved
to Spain, uh, walking away from thirty five years of
mindset in the United States that you have to be
successful only for you and by your own effort, and
then you understand the world from a different perspective. Not
necessarily communists, no, no, no, but having compassion and having
a consideration or all all everyone around you. I think
the world is moving into that direction. But before we
had to go through this process of transformation, not necessarily
through a good means. Remember that, unfortunately history have proven them.
We men do not change onto something drastic really happened,
like a war, like a mayor pandemic, something major has
to trigger that we become more sensitive. I'll give you
an example that two thousand and one, when ninety eleven
people went to the churches and everyone became more American
and more civilized with everyone and more connected with the divine.
Something like that is going to happen in the world.
There is a transition. We're going to be more tolern
The United State is not gonna appear, it's just going
to transform into something less. Less ultra nationalists and close
minded to one language, one form of way of being
to consider everything else that is out there. That's what
I see is coming.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show. And the funny thing
is that this country was built. It's an experiment the
United States. It's an experiment of every culture around the
world that built this country. All cultures built this country,
as opposed to Spain or France or England, which were
very native, you know, specific kind of language and country
and people. We have. We're a melting pot. That's what
we were built on. That's how that's why we became
as powerful as we are because we opened our doors
to everybody and we worked with everybody, and that's how
we were able to this scrappy little country built up
into a world power. And after World War Two, when
Europe was just devastated, we were fine, and we were
able to build an economic engine that my parents' generation
took advantage of, you know, and then my generation has
taken advantage of it to a certain extent. And then
but it's gotten weaker and weaker to the kids who
are coming up today, I feel habit a little bit
tougher in many ways than we did growing up and
have stresses that we couldn't even comprehend. Then. God, social
media wasn't around when I was growing up. I can't
even imagine, you know, just for the evidence alone of
the things I did in high school. So to make
sure that there's none of those videos out there, but
it's it's I think we all we all can agree
the things that we would not want to see shown
that we were like in he what we were wearing.
Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of things wouldn't be tolerated
today's day, for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh No, And you can kind of go back and
look at I was talking to someone today this morning.
I'm like, I was like, I saw a clip from
All in the Family, from the seventies show All in
the Families was the number one show in America for years.
Very oh my god, the stuff that was coming out
of his mouth. I was like, oh my and I
remember watching that show growing up, and it was just like,
oh my god. Things have changed so radically, Hodie, I
want to ask you, with all of these changes that
are coming, and obviously we're kind of going through a
Dark Knight of the Soul as as a species, as
a consciousness. That's what these next set and eight years
are going to be. I've been talking about it for
a few years now, kind of not scaring people, but
trying to let people know, Look, this is coming, and
it's It's not that it's good or bad. It's just
going to be what it is. Kind of like when
you know, you go through a heartbreak, when you lose
your job, when you you know, when you get divorced,
when you have a breakup. Those are very painful things
that happen to you, but those are the things that
you grow from. Those are the things that elevate you
and push you forward. Without those extremes, you might just
keep coasting through life. So that's what we all kind
of need that wake up call as a society. But
with all of the all of the kind of negative
stuff that we've been talking about, I also want to
put a spotlight on the positive. There are large amounts
of people awakening around the world. This show is a
perfect example of it. I've said it before and I'll
say it again. Ten years ago this show doesn't get
these numbers. You know, the years ago I would have
been laughed out. You know, I couldn't have a conversation
with an astrologer, a Cuban astrologer who's in Spain talking
about craziness, you know, or a psychic medium or a
channeler channeling higher beings like those conversations would not be allowed.
But now, for whatever reason it is, it is something
that people are looking for. They're leaving the traditional paths
that are not serving them the same way, the more
dogmatic religion, the more fear based religions, and now they're
starting to look for more spiritual, looking for answers within themselves,
looking for paths to go on. You yourself, we were talking
a little bit about that. Can you tell a little bit.
Can you just tell people what the show did for
you as an example of to illustrate what we're talking about.
Speaker 3: Right, I had to go a little bit back, like, Okay,
I when I was a teenager, back Inqua, I actually
enter a seminary to start to be a catlibrist.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I thought I was going to be a Catholic priest.
Even when I moved to the United States, immgrated with
my parents. My father was a political prisoner, so we
looked from Havana to Miami, and I thought that I
was going to continue, no problems, no big deal.
Speaker 2: It didn't happen. Somehow I got.
Speaker 3: Involved into working making money things and started doing well
for me, and uh, life in the United States took
over and I was able to excel financially. I started
to be an it guy, and I, you know, I
was very happy with everything knew that I was discovering,
but I also was moving away from my original vocation.
I remember that the reason why I wanted to be
a priest is because I wanted to be like an
embassy of freedom, an escape of freedom, and a powerful
weapon to help my people that were dying in drying
and dryness.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So when I came over here, I dried up becoming
successful by myself.
Speaker 2: But I got a like.
Speaker 3: A big stop in twenty twenty. That was something that
really like completely shook me to the point that where
I've been going, Why do I keep doing things just
to paying money when I know that I'm not happy.
My life has no meaning whatsoever. My original vocation is
not in use at all. And I feel horrible because
then guys started to read take more time and one
of the things that I did is actually I got
involved into hymnosis, you know, learning more about my mind
and the superpower of power mind, which is I call it.
Speaker 2: He knows, is a superpower.
Speaker 3: So I got enrolled into a school in Tampa that
they were doing a program for a whole year and
we have a you know, different courses, and I specialized
in clinical and then later on transpersonal. But at the
same time, during that time, I was actually dealing with
my father.
Speaker 2: He had a.
Speaker 3: Very strong health condition, you know, heart condition, heart failure, condition,
congest her failure, he was going through dialysis, and at
the same time I was having a tough relationship with him.
Speaker 2: He knows. This was actually helped me to.
Speaker 3: Finish brush up all the bad aspects of that relationship
to the point that I took over and created for
the last few months of his life, a wonderful relationship
with my father. I was so grateful about that. Then
I got into transpersonal and my father, my father already
died and I got into this trans personal I was
like always a very skeptical person that doesn't going to
happen to me. Nothing is going to happen to me.
I'm not a Napoleon or Cleopatra. I'm not an a
special guy. I'm not going to be seized Roman Roman Emperor.
Speaker 2: That's yes. Well let's take the class. Let's see what happens.
Speaker 3: So I remember doing my first regression, you know, me
being the subject in class, and it took me by surprise.
I only visited one time, one life, one past life
several times.
Speaker 2: But there is one particular.
Speaker 3: Regression which is the most treasure delightful memory that I have,
which is the time between life and life, between one
life and the other life, in between, a lot in
between and in between a lot of things happened in
that regression, and I remember that one of the things
that happened to me there is actually that I was
able to telepathelictly talk to a light being that was
right in front of me. I couldn't define whether it
was a male or female or their name. When I
was asked, I knew that that being was my master
or the Master. I didn't see Jesus or angels. I
just saw this bright light that it was so bright
that in this world we could never resist. But in
that experience, I could see through the light without being
affected in a negative way, and I was able to
actually see plan together with that person my present life.
I remember discussing some of the things that I wanted
to do or not But at the same time, I
was shown the last few moments or years perhaps of
this current life that I'm living, and I noticed that
what I was doing was great, was actually impacting many people.
I remember seeing, like, for example, I was on a
stage and I had a lot of people around and
they had like a light on, like when you turn
on the flashlights of your cell phone, and they were
waving from the stage. I was actually able to feel it,
the collective gratitude and enjoy because of whatever I was done,
I was doing in that future life that was going
to incarnate, and I felt a rush of aphoria and
I started screaming, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, because
I wanted to be the moment. And then I was
lay I fell back and I was laid into my
mother's room.
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Speaker 3: There is a lot of things that happened in that
a lot more details. Remember that, Like a month after
I had that experience, I found your channel, specifically a
video about one of your guests that he was for
forty five minutes. He had a near death experience, and
here recounts what happened in the afterlife. A lot of
the things that he was describing, I actually experienced it,
and I never read about her or actually checked into it.
At the same time that I was watching that video
and that I was battling with the big question, So
we reincarnate, there are other lives, so there is no
heaven and hell, so we have a continuous progression of
our life. Remember, and coming from a dog Mardy background,
very strong dog Mardy background, So I have so much
pain in my mind and fear because at the same
time that I wanted to believe that experience, my dog
Mandy background that was so rooted into my mind was
fighting a strong what if the devil was actually taking
over your mind and making you feel or imaginable things.
Why this is all crap and you're just being full
into something new that you know you can't believe that.
But then when I watched that video in particular, and
then some others in your channel, I started losing up.
How can that person have the same experience that I have?
How can I know what he lived when I never
read or watched a video like this before, but we
have common details about the experience, and mine was only
was only a regression. His was actually a real thing,
you know, like in the ear the experience and also
the other videos that I that I watch, they start
softening up my or down my soul, the rebellious part
of my soul. And then I start realizing our lives
on my life has a bigger meaning than just this
eighty sixty whatever years we're going to live in this plane.
There is more than that. Our life is actually eternal.
I start realizing that our live is actually eternal, but
we just in a continued learning process to understand why
we are who we are while we do the things
that we do, what is our real true vocation. And
that's what actually happened. And that completely started changing not
only my theology which was completely wiped out, most of
it was actually wiped out, but also turned or change
the way that I also relate to people around me,
Like for example, I became more tolerant. I was very
obsessive of vehement with whatever I believed, you know, like
a like a whole inquisitor. But my truth was the
truth but now because of this transition and these videos
and the testimony that you were reflecting in your channel,
my soul was actually souftening out with the sweetness. Or
actually I stopped and listen and consider others and instead
of seeing seeing them opposing parts that I had to rebottl,
now I can actually see that there was a compliment,
that something was fitting in that we were actually pieces
of apostle, that it was not you or me black
and white, it's actually we together. A lot of things
it changed. All combined with astrology, of course, as surely
also is very revealing, but your channel was instrumental to
make me uh be more tolerant and understanding with my wife,
my children, their transitions in life, there, their moods or whatever,
all the people in general.
Speaker 2: Uh Like.
Speaker 3: For example, one of the things that uh that that
happened to me because of the things that I saw,
my experiences and also the compliment of the videos that
I saw on your channel, is stopping bottling or fighting
with other people about my truth or what is a
defined truth. Suddenly I became more like observant and respectful
of together. Combined with the swingness, another thing is guilt.
Speaker 2: The guilt and fear.
Speaker 3: I had a lot of gear because fear and guilt
combined because I had to be a certain ways. I
don't behave a certain way. Then I am evil health
and I got to help. Then I realized that actually
even my because of your shows and some books that
I also read, even the bad things that I can
describe as evil or uncomfortable or not good at all
in my personality was actually mechanism or defense or simple
tools that was actually used for good, to form me,
to bring me to awareness. A lot of things change
the respect to myself, the consideration to myself, Like I
became a lot more embold and and and fearless. One
of the by products of your show and the hymnos
it he knows this was the confrontation.
Speaker 2: With reality which brought me to a crisis.
Speaker 3: Your show Easy Down, Easy up my attention my sphere
and made me relax. Because of that, I actually was
able to open or there to start my astrology channel Astrogia,
which I started in June twenty twenty three, June twenty third,
twenty twenty three. Before that, I wasn't there to do it.
Why because you know, the high school friendships are like
forever friendships, right, well, my friendships are friars, frist Diackens, nuns,
and one bishop. On top of that, I actually taught leaders,
Catholic leaders about Old Testament evangelization for the actually diss
of Miami. So coming in public as an astrologer was
a social It was a social cost that I was
not willing to pay. I couldn't I couldn't dare to
go above that because of your show, Because of all
these experiences that happened in twenty twenty three, specifically that
that video of your guest that was I had an
experience for forty five minutes near that experience. For forty
five minutes, I was actually I found the boldness.
Speaker 2: And the.
Speaker 3: Valor to say, I'm gonna talk what I know is true.
I'm gonna start coming out instead of conforming. I'm going
to start doing my thing. At the beginning was rough
and difficult, and I have to learn how to talk
to a camera and how to do anything in YouTube
because I never done that before. But it was a
challenge that I couldn't do before this experience that happened
is especially when I was able to lose up from
the guilt and the fear from religion coming from you know, the.
Speaker 1: Catholic Yeah, the Catholic dogmatic background. Thank you so much
for that. That's so beautiful to hear. I mean, I
do the show, and you know, I put it out
in the world, and I have no idea sometimes what
it does to people watching, but it is service that
I'd like to do. But the reason I wanted to
bring that up is because it's an example of you awakening.
It's an example of millions around the world who are
starting to awaken. And that is the hope for all
of this, because what you're seeing in twenty thirty two
of an America that's a little bit more open and
a little bit more kind and a little bit this
or that. It needs people who are awakened to start
doing it, very similar to you. So with and this
is something that and I'd love to hear your thoughts
on this, but this is something I've always found when
there is a great negative, one of the laws of
the universe is a great positive will go up to
balance it. So World War two, a great negative came up,
but then the ally forces came up to meet it.
It's never, it's never. Darth Vader completely knocking you out.
There's always a look, there is always a Yoda, there's
always another force to balance that out, and this is
another example of it. Yeah it's gonna look dark. Yeah,
there's gonna be some rough patches over the next seven
or eight years, but there is a very positive force
coming up at the same time. We might not see
it all the time, but it's there underneath it all.
Kind of like the negative is. Over the last twenty years,
say twenty twelve. From twenty twelve on, which is a
very significant year, from twenty twelve on, all the things
that were underneath, all the anger and the resentment and
the racism and all of that stuff started to bubble
up and started to come up. So it's always this balance.
It's always these cycles that keep going around and around.
That's the universe. I mean, the solar system itself. Our
solar system is an example of reincarnation. Every so many years.
The planets come back around every you know Haley's comment,
I was alive. You were alive when Haley's comic came.
Now most people here don't. I got to see Haley's camera.
I was in sixth grade. My teacher told me to
go outside and look, and I saw Haley's comment. So
I actually saw Haley's COMPA Haley comic comes around every
seventy five years, right, and I might see it, who knows,
I might see it in my lifetime again. But it's cyclical,
and there's so many things in our universe that are cyclical.
This is one of those cycles. Is that all coincide
with what you're seeing. Will be right back after a
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Speaker 3: And not only that I agree with you, but in
addition to that, it is necessary because coming out actually
makes people later on realize what I have done. If
you look at your past past years, when I look
at mine, I can see that everything that we're now
seeing the collective right now, the rage and the hatred
or the intolerance that we see right now very much
reflected in the American society.
Speaker 1: And around the world too, by the way, and around.
Speaker 3: The world as well, but we're talking about United States
specifically now. I mean I can see that in a
bigger or smaller degree. I also have done it in
my own personal experiences. So because I had done those
horrible things, or say those horrible things that I said
in the past or I heard someone. The memory of that,
or becoming aware of what I did and said was
actually made me realize, and then a change in my
soul was produced, more to be to become a more sensible,
more tolerant, more respectful, and also more forgiven with myself
and others, just because I remember I also was there.
I also did similar things in the biggers or smaller degree.
So the thin things, the same happens with this society.
You know, whatever is happening right now in the world,
America or any part of the world that is negative,
it is necessary for the collective to wake up, to
see their darkness and say, there has to be a
better way.
Speaker 2: Yep, how can I be like this? Like World War
Two was actually a big wake up for the whole world.
But we have enjoyed.
Speaker 3: We had the generation that actually enjoy a lot of
years of peace and a more a society, more focused
on education and multiculturalism, understanding other nations. You nighting also
becoming a more global world just because of that ultraannationalism
that was an in tournagance that was as a theme
of the World War two. Well, the same thing will
have it over again. We will be better because whatever
is going on right now. Same in the personal life.
Speaker 1: Hodie, Where can people find out more about you and
the amazing work you're doing in the world, My friend.
Speaker 3: My website is Astrogia or astrogia sometimes people pronounce that
like that is astrogia dot net and the YouTube channel.
I have the same name Astrogia in YouTube, Astrogia in Instagram.
I'm also opening now the English channel, which would be
astrogia end. And that's another thing that was a challenge
for me. You know, let's let's take over now, let's
start to bring this to the English.
Speaker 2: World as well.
Speaker 3: I know there are many out there that do Australia
in English, but I kind of felt that I had
the confidence now to say, you know what, I also
have a lot of a lot to give in in
this language, even when I have my Antonio's Mandera accent.
That's a that's a defense that I use against my
fear of my own accent.
Speaker 2: But it's very nice.
Speaker 1: It's very nice about it.
Speaker 2: I laugh about it, Okay, I I'm Antonio. But yes,
as Trogia do net, that will be the website. Holda.
Speaker 1: It has been a pleasure speaking to you my friend.
I love your energy. I love the work that you're
doing and what you're trying to do to help awaken
this planet. So I appreciate you, brother and uh mucho
Mucco Veneciones, and you may you continue to do the
world the work that you're doing, my friend, So thank
you again for being on the show. Thank you for
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