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Speaker 1: Here's your hosts, Jesse Severe and Victor Nuno Fantasy Hockey.

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Speaker 3: Lied once again. Victor Nuno VP Rinkside is joined by

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Jesse Severe. That's me from fan Tracks to talk fantasy hockey. Victor,

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I am neither fun nor productive, Victor, But but that's okay.

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Speaker 4: In just a moment, we've got a big name guest

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today coming right back to talk Detroit revenue. We welcome

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back to the show this guy and Max Bollman of

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the Athletic talking Detroit Red Wings hockey.

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Speaker 5: How you doing, Max doing very good, guys, Thanks for

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having me on Man.

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Speaker 3: We love talking Red Wings hockey with you. And here's

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the deal with Detroit. They made real progress this year.

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I don't know whether we're ready to start doubting the

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plan or whether this is the way it's supposed to go.

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They tied in standing's points with the last playoff team

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this year, scoring the ninth most goals, six most power

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play points power play goals in the league, on the

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third best shooting percentage. That's not bad for a team

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that finished twelve points out of the running last year.

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Twenty sixth year before that, they made key editions last

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year they made more of this offseason. They've got some

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prospects on the way. The team that once had the

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third longest playoff streak in NHL history has now followed

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it up with the sixth longest drought and counting in

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NHL history. Looked it up hopefully Wikipedia's right. Can we

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expect the Wings will finally pay off their fans and

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bring the playoffs to Little Caesars Arena this year? It's

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Speaker 5: I would say no, but I don't think it's out

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of the question for them. I think that they there's

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a little bit of turnover this year that they're gonna

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have a little bit less salary cap space to go

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around because they have raises due for Mortsider and Lucas Raymond.

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bargain entry level deals for the last three are now

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gonna start making some real money here, and that leaves

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a little bit less to go around. They replaced a

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lot of the guys that dead left, and I think

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there's some guys that are maybe better fits for their

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roles than they had last year. Certainly the Steve Eisman

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has believes that, and that's why maybe they made those moves.

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But I see a team that's probably in pretty similar

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territory to where they were last year, and I would

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maybe take the low end of that they finished last year.

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I think with ninety one, I'd take them right in

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that same range eighty eight to ninety two, but I

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probably pick them eighty eight eighty nine.

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Speaker 3: The team starts with Dylan Larkin, the Wings captain. He's

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still in a prime and for the first time in

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his career, Dylan Markin nudged over a point per game.

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injury in December, a lower body injury in March, and

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then he dealt with an offseason surgery that hopefully doesn't

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delay the start of his season. Despite missing fourteen games,

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he nearly led the team in goals above replacement in

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offensive goals above replacement. In fact, he was in the

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top twenty five of the NHL top ten in power

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play points power play goals above replacement. With yet another

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elite winger coming to the team, we'll get to him

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in a minute. Could Larkin jump to his career year

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this year as he do for maybe the ninety five

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point season. I think that we're all hoping he gets

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Speaker 5: Ninety five is probably a little aggressive, but I think

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he's in the eighties, possibly well into the eighties, maybe

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around eighty five eighty six, if he can stay healthy.

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a given in the past couple of seasons. He only

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missed two games in twenty two twenty so that's what

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you're hoping for. If he can play eighty games, yeah,

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I think he's somewhere to run that eighty five point marker.

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He's had the more talent around him. When the Red

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Wings were going through the bottom out years of their rebuild,

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there was a lot of question around is this guy

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at number one center? And my feeling at that time

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was yes, he just needs the pieces around him that

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will get him too. The point totals that show that

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he's in the number one center that has now happened.

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You got Alex Dabrinkt, you got Lucas Raymond, you got

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Patrick Kye not you allude to Vladimir Tarasenko. A lot

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of different combinations they can throw in there with Dylan

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Larkin that I think will work. The question is the health.

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things over the last year, so that's what you're watching.

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But I am a believer in Dylan Larkin and hip

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for fantasy players that are wondering about his health, I

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think that's really the only question of whether or not

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he was on my team. Last year. I've played for

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the first first time a really involved league. I had

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played casually like a draft the team and forget about it.

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had him on mine and it went pretty well.

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Speaker 3: Nice. Welcome Max, come on in, come into the DF clutter, sir,

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You're welcome here. Let's talk about Patrick Kane the new

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edition last year, and boy, anybody who thought the King

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might be washed up after the surgeries that he had

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was proven pretty wrong last year. In another tough offensive context.

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circumstances he was coming into in this team, he put

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up a ton of points forty seven and fifty games.

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His standing points above replacement for sixty was about as

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good as it's been any year since his art ross

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and heart winning twenty fifteen and sixteen in terms of

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that RAID stat Will Patrick Kean put up another great

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late career year. Who will be a center? And could

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we please have him play eighty two games or more

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this year? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: So I did a lot of questions there. So I

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don't know about the center right. My gut going in

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would be that he would probably play with JT. Komfor

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of time when the Red Wings were really pushing late

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last season. I think that their best line is to

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brink a Lark and Raymond, but we never see the

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same line for eighty two games. Obviously, they're going to

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want to unite to brink it in Kane at certain

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points to get one of the other going sometimes there's

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going to be injuries. I think you'll see Kane with

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Larkin at times. I think that worked well, but I

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think it's probably not going to be one guy the

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entire year. And obviously there is a drop off in

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offensive ability from Larkin to their number two centers. JT.

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Kom for really good player, he's not the offensive driver

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that Dylan Larkin is obviously. As for Kane, I think

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he does have another strong year, and he probably even

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has a better year in him than he had last year.

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really come to where it was when he was in

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his prime, and it probably won't. And he's obviously not

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going to be in the corner winning a ton of battles.

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But for fantasy purposes, unless you're in those bangers leagues

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kind of thing, I don't think you care about that.

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I think you care about the point totals. And there

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was no reason to believe last year that Patrick Kane

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is not capable of putting up near point per game numbers. Again,

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he actually the goal scoring actually outpaced what I was

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expecting of him, and he had twenty goals in fifty

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games last year. That's outstanding. It's not that far up

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a forty goal pace. I don't know that I see

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a forty goal season for him, but if he can

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be around thirty again for them and he can put

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up forty plus assists, which I think is totally possible,

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PP one. I think there's another really productive year in

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Starkip Patrick Kaydan, with a full year of training. It

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may even be at a higher rate than last year.

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Speaker 2: Nice, so I'd love to see that looking forward to that.

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game Lucas Raymond. He had a career year back to

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back fifty to fifty seven point paces previously. Then he

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shot up to seventy two. His time on ice was similar,

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as was his powerfully time on ice. He did shoot

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seven percent higher than his previous average. The rest of

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his percentages were about right. Back in October, I wrote

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this piece three p ring side trying to figure out

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where Raymond would end up, and at the time we're

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thinking would he be seventy closer to seventy or seventy

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point per game. Now we see him at seventy two,

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so we have a little bit more data. What do

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we think now, Max? Is this kind of where we

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think he'll live in the seventy point range or did

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we think he can be point per game ish next

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season and beyond?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I think he's got another step in him. The

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question is that shooting percentage that you allude to, right,

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that's the key to all this. He shot nineteen percent.

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I think we could agree that's probably not happening two

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years in a row, so that's the key. But I

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think he can make up for that with more volume.

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one hundred and sixty three shots on goal. Yeah, it's

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a little more than he had the year before, but

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it's still less than he had as a rookie when

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he had one hundred and eighty four shots on goal.

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you're really happy with him. I think the talent wise,

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he is still scratching the surface of what he can become.

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was outstanding in those last two games against Montreal. He

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the ability to take over games when he needed to.

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but I think this is going to be a potential

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star player in the NHL, and you just want to

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see him get those shot totals up to maintain the production.

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But I think it's within range for sure. You look

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at Larkin, Dylan Larkin in the last three years two

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twelve forty four, two twenty one shots shots on goal

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per game. Lucas Raymond gets there. He's keeping up his numbers,

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and I think he's probably adding a little bit to

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that certainly, that I think is the path. It has

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to come with shot volume, and I would imagine that's

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going to be an emphasis for him.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, we love to see it, and yeah, we're hoping

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for it. Let's move on to the other guy, Alex

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to brink It. Just as we are getting used to

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seeing point per game, Alex to Brink it in Chicago.

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He went to Ottawa and then Detroit, and he sagged

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back to that sixty five ish point guy. His ice

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time drops substantially in Detroit compared to his previous stops,

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and I'm not sure how much that had to do

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with it, but his power play IPP was really low,

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so maybe he could get a little bit more luck

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on the power play. The rest of his numbers were

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sort of in line, so it might have just been

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related to the lower ice time. I'm not sure, Max,

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what do you think about to brink it in Detroit?

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Can he get back to his power point per game

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ways or do you think he's more just this sixty

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five to seventy is point player.

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Speaker 3: So the answer to both your.

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Speaker 5: Questions is going to come down to the same thing.

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Does he get the power play one usage now that

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David Peran's gone. I think that's the minute. The lost

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minute that you're looking for from Ottawa to Detroit is

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the being power play two instead of power Play one.

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I think that's the individual powerplay points that you're alluding to.

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That's the key.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: I do think he probably lives in the sixty five

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to seventy point range, but maybe with that extra power

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play time you get a little bit of those points back,

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maybe you would like to see him tick up and

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be a thirty plus goal scorer. He certainly has that ability.

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And if he's playing with Dylan Market and Lucas Raymond

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for a good chunk of the year, which is how

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I would do it, I don't know if that's how

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they will do it, then I think there's a room

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for more than that. I think it's a room for

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seventy plus seventy five point kind of guy, thirty plus

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goals and forty plus assists. But we'll have to see,

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right I think he was the guy who had a

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little bit of a shooting percentage dip last season, not

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from the year before, but relative to his career average,

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like his career evers fourteen he was at a eleven

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point four. I think the Red Wings will tell you

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hit a lot of posts. Some of that's just the

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way it is. And I also think he's a guy

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that scoring wise, you're just going to set your watch

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between twenty seven and thirty five goals from here on out,

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thirty five in the great years, twenty five in the

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tougher years. So we'll see where it goes. I think

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he's which is what you get player, and I think

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that's a good player. It's probably not a guy you're

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targeting in the first two three rounds of a fantasy draft,

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but he's a really nice piece who will score goals.

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And I do think we'll get more power play usage

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this year than he got last year, which certainly helps

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you in fantasy.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about the new guy. Vladimir Tersenko has long

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since kind of moved from that offensive center of attention

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role that he had at times at Saint Louis to

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really a very strong, complimentary scorer role. He's a very

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good converter nearly fifteen percent shooting on a relatively low

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expected goal count last year. He's good with hits, generally

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over a hit per game, but his shot rate has

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declined from four or three shots per game earlier in

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his career. Last year he was down to about two.

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All that said, Florida really didn't need him to be

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a major offensive driver for that team. They're just so

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loaded on offense. How does Tarasenko fit now into the

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Wings context? And you see him more or less than

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maybe a sixty point year this year. Sixty would be

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a little ambitious for me.

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Speaker 5: I think I probably see him in that middle six role.

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Maybe he gets some time in the top six, but

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I think you're more likely to see him probably as

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a classic second line scorer type playing with Kane. That's

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usually good for scorers, So that's your path to it there.

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I think it's worth noting that you mentioned the volume stuff.

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He did shoot at a pretty good clip last season

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above fourteen percent at both Ottawa and Florida, so you

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always wonder about that. I know he was playing his

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off or his true side. I guess it would be

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he's used to playing on his off side on the right.

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He played it last year in Florida and Ottawa a

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good amount on his left side, and I think that's

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most likely what he'll have to do in Detroit. Maybe

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we see some experimentation, but if he is playing with Caine,

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you expect Kane to be on the right side and

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Tarysnko maybe on the left. I wonder if that's maybe

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a little bit of the lack of shooting that not

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being on that one time or trigger side. And then

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we'll see what the power play usage is for him too.

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My gut would be probably power play two but we

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haven't seen them rep anything in camp yet. We're still

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six weeks from that, thank god, need a little bit

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of downtime, but that I think will be revealing too.

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If they see him as a guy that they are

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playing on power Play one anywhere, then maybe you have

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a little more room to approach that territory you were

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talking about, Jesse. So we'll see. My guess is he's

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somewhere in that kind of fifty to fifty five range again,

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but we will we'll see what the role looks like,

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with the deployment looks like to figure out more.

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Speaker 3: We've mentioned him already a little bit. JT. Komper. He

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comes in with the fourth most points or Detroit among

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the returning players to the team, and last year he's

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skated the most minutes of any forward on the Detroit

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Red Wings. His first year in Detroit roughly matched his

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last one in college. He actually got Silkie votes that

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year for people who don't recall, he definitely had a

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big role with the Red Wings, though has helped the

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fantasy players. Tends to be rather minimal. That's he doesn't

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tend to put up a lot of the counting stats

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we're looking for and he bounced around a little bit

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between different line mates. You talked about how they were

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a bit flexible with some of those top lines, but

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he was mostly a top six guy. It would appear

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last year. What is jt. Kopfor going to be doing

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or what will his part be on the twenty four

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to twenty five Wings.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I certainly expect him to stay in a top

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six role. He is their number two center. The big

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question I think you're going to circle if you're considering

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him for fantasy, which is probably more like the later rounds,

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like you said, is the shooting percentage. It was seventeen

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point six percent last year, above his career high. That's

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really true of the Red Wings as a whole, and

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something that fantasy managers are probably well aware of that

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they have the third highest team shooting percentage last year

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eleven point six percent. We've referenced it on a few

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individual guys that this year for fans who don't know,

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usually the meetiing of the league is right around ten percent,

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So you do expect a little bit of a dip

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in their conversion rate. That doesn't just affect the individual

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guys we're talking about. It affects the assist numbers. Even

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if there's a guy like Alex to Breakhet who's not

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shooting quite his career average, maybe he's getting a few

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less assists. Even if he so, it probably washes out

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for him there too, So comfer I think though, is

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one of the guys on the goal side. You had

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a career high in goals last year with nineteen. You'd

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love it if you're Detroit if he can do that again.

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But I think probably safer to expect somewhere more like

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twelve to fifteen goals from And if you continue to

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get more with the high ice time, that's great, but

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probably don't plan on getting twenty goals from and plan

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on more like fifteen. And like you said, you're not

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building your team around to JT komfor. But he has

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a guy that I think you can stream depending on

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your league format. You can stream on one of those

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Sunday games that you're just looking for something, and he

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gives you a chance at a couple points because he

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is going to play with really good players in the

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top six, and that usually gives you a chance to

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din assists, maybe even a goal.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we've reached the depth part of the forwards.

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So I'm going to give these guys too as a

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pick them, but also feel free to spand on their

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role a little bit. But between these three, who do

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you think will score more Jonathan Bergran, Joe Valeno and

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Michael Rasmussen. So Bergran scored over a point per game

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in the AHL last season and has just about since

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he arrived, but only at twelve NHL games this season.

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He's also currently in RFA, so I'm not sure those

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twelve games help us understand any better who he can

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be in the NHL. That was a little interesting to me.

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Valano has two more years at two point two seventy

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five million, He's been no more than a thirty point

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paced guy and has paid play two hundred thirty two

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games in the NHL, so he might be who he

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is at this point. And Rasmussen has the best point

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pace of the three, but it's still only forty two

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and not that great. So between these three, who do

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you think is going to get the most next season

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and what kind of role do you think they'll play?

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Speaker 5: I would take Rasmussen for this reason. Bergran is the

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most offensively talented player of the ones you just mentioned,

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but I think he's going to get the least minutes.

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He's probably got the most work to do to earn

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the trust of the coaching staff. He does have a

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path to power play time, so that is one thing

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to watch. I think there's a pretty decent path actually

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to him getting second power play time. But I think

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he's the one who's also the most liable to lose

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his spot or be a scratch on a given night.

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I think Rasmussen has the most trust from the coaches.

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I think he's got the clearest path to a fifteen

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to sixteen minute a night roll. Like you said, he's

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got the track record of having done it. I still

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think there's maybe even a little more offense in him

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than what we've seen so far, especially around the net.

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I don't know that he's going to get power play time.

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It seems like that ship may have sailed for him,

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But he's the one that you know, other than injury,

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you can set your watch to him getting consistent fifteen

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plus minutes in a night that that line is really trusted,

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especially if he plays with cop and maybe it's Christian

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Fisher again, maybe one of these rookies, Marco Kasper, Carter

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Maser comes up and they add a little bit to

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that line too. I would go with Rasmussen for the

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high floor. I think there's maybe a little more than

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what he's shown so far, and just knowing that he's

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going to be in the lineup like that, that's probably

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how I would work it out. Even though if you

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could guarantee me that Berger was going to get the

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same ice time as rast, you'd take him. But I don't.

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You can't guarantee that, and I actually would bet against it.

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So I'd go with Rasmussen for that reason, especially if

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you do play in a league that cares about hits, block, shots,

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and penalty because he's definitely gonna rack up a few

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extra points for you there.

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Speaker 3: Moving to the blue line, first up, we've got most sidier.

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He is still in the negotiations for contract. Oh please,

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let's hope we get this out before that happens, so

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we don't end up sound as silly for whatever we

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do here. But he basically repeated his stat line last year.

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He played every game, He's a little under two shots

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a game, close to three hits and three blocks, exactly

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forty two points two years in a row. I guess

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that's good. It's a very good season. But if you're

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looking for the superstar potential, I don't know where is

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the cement dry on this guy. How is his game

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trajectory going and what is this role in a team

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that now has a vacancy on powerplay one.

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Speaker 5: That's the question. So you talk about the identical production

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two years in a row, it's more impressive than he

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did it last year because he did it without power

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play one. Shane Gossip spear ran that power play last

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year to very great effect, and Cider doing what he

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00:21:07,799 --> 00:21:09,680
did was a the result again of a little bit

480
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,079
higher shooting percentage. I think it was nearly double what

481
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,319
it had been the year before, but be also just

482
00:21:14,559 --> 00:21:17,440
more evolution I think than and part of was just

483
00:21:17,599 --> 00:21:20,400
better team context. Then it always get credit for it.

484
00:21:20,519 --> 00:21:22,759
He plays the toughest minutes in the NHL, and that

485
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,000
is not what you want to hear for fantasy necessarily.

486
00:21:26,599 --> 00:21:29,400
But I think they do need to probably make life

487
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,119
a little bit easier on him than what they did

488
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,279
last year. Even if he's still playing the hardest minutes

489
00:21:33,279 --> 00:21:35,160
in the league. It doesn't need to be by the

490
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,960
wide margin that it was, although maybe it does for

491
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,200
them to win and that's what it is. But I

492
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,039
think you'll see a little more comfort in that. I

493
00:21:42,079 --> 00:21:44,680
think you'll see probably a little more power play one

494
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,759
time than he got this year, even if Eric Gustafson

495
00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:50,000
maybe stands to inherit that a little more. Obviously, it

496
00:21:50,039 --> 00:21:52,200
certainly as familiar with Kanaan not to brink it from

497
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,400
their time in Chicago together.

498
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 3: So is the cement dry?

499
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 5: I would say no, I think Cider's gotten better every

500
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,400
single year, even if the point totals and some of

501
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,119
those cute little stat cards people love to float around

502
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,799
on Twitter might not tell you that. I think he's

503
00:22:03,799 --> 00:22:05,880
gotten better every single year, and I think he'll continue

504
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,519
to get better for the next couple. I don't think

505
00:22:07,519 --> 00:22:09,480
he's going to be a Kel mccarr a Quinn Hughes.

506
00:22:09,519 --> 00:22:11,319
I think we could probably say that at this point,

507
00:22:11,519 --> 00:22:12,920
but I still think there's a world where he can

508
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,200
evolve into's kind of a Charlie macavoy type for the

509
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,279
Red Wings, and I think that's what you're looking for

510
00:22:17,279 --> 00:22:17,640
from him.

511
00:22:18,039 --> 00:22:22,079
Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned Eric Gustason, and that's interesting. Yeah, power

512
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,839
play opportunity I suppose for him. You know, over the years,

513
00:22:25,839 --> 00:22:27,519
if you look at kind of some of his stats.

514
00:22:27,559 --> 00:22:30,480
He's a he's experienced, he's solid. He's not a sieve

515
00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:34,119
on defense, He's not a nothing on offense. He's been

516
00:22:34,279 --> 00:22:37,000
on a wide variety of teams and had different levels

517
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,039
of deployment at his different stops. If you were just

518
00:22:40,079 --> 00:22:42,119
looking at the history, I mean, my first guest would

519
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,680
be he'd be just a steady second pair guy who

520
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,319
wouldn't put up a ton of stats, but would fill

521
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,960
an important role for Detroit. But is that where he

522
00:22:50,039 --> 00:22:52,160
turns out or is he going to have an opportunity

523
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,079
maybe to step into a more offensive role.

524
00:22:54,799 --> 00:22:56,559
Speaker 5: I think he's going to be in a sheltered third

525
00:22:56,599 --> 00:22:58,839
pair role, like similar to what Gossip Bear was in

526
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,400
last year, and that is tend to be good for offense,

527
00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:04,200
and I think he will get some power play time.

528
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,319
We'll see who ends up getting more power play one

529
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,799
between him and more Excider. That's the big question that

530
00:23:09,799 --> 00:23:12,000
we're not going to really know until the season begins,

531
00:23:12,039 --> 00:23:14,200
and possibly until two to three months into the season.

532
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,000
But I think he's going to be in a similar

533
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,119
position to what Gossip Spear was in, playing with oly

534
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,759
Mada most likely on that third pair, maybe a little

535
00:23:21,759 --> 00:23:23,920
bit of Albert Johansson if they work him in, And

536
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,720
obviously injuries can change anything, but my guess would be

537
00:23:27,759 --> 00:23:30,119
at five on five he's the third pair, and then

538
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,400
he does get at least a healthy amount of PP one.

539
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,519
I talked about the familiarity with Canaan to Brinkt. I

540
00:23:34,519 --> 00:23:36,960
think he had seventy points that season when he was

541
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,319
with those two guys in Chicago, and so that tells

542
00:23:39,319 --> 00:23:42,000
you that there was something working about that power play

543
00:23:42,039 --> 00:23:44,440
chemistry that those guys had. I don't expect seventy points

544
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,480
from him, I'll say that, but would it shock me

545
00:23:46,519 --> 00:23:48,799
if he's back into the forty plus territory with the

546
00:23:48,839 --> 00:23:50,759
Red Wings getting a good amount of power play time.

547
00:23:50,759 --> 00:23:51,920
That would not surprise me at all.

548
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 2: And then we're going to talk about Simo and Edmonson.

549
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,519
And I said before the end of the season debacle

550
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,440
that if Edmondson had been in the Red Wings lineup

551
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,519
from day one, they would have made the playoffs. Obviously

552
00:24:01,559 --> 00:24:03,720
we don't know if that would have happened, but his

553
00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:07,119
defensive impacts were easily better than just about every other

554
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,920
defender except First Polimata, and way better than Ben Schrod,

555
00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:14,759
Jeff Petrie and Justin Hull, and we've seen him excel

556
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,240
in the AHL as well. I think it's pretty he's

557
00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:20,799
done excellent there and he's so far the small sample

558
00:24:20,839 --> 00:24:22,960
size results in the NHL have been great. Max. Are

559
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,279
we finally going to see Edmonson full time in the

560
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,440
NHL this season and what can we expect from him?

561
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:28,319
Speaker 3: Yes?

562
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 5: And I agree with you. I think that they missed

563
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,759
the playoffs by a point. I think he was worth

564
00:24:31,799 --> 00:24:34,319
at least a point to that team last year. I

565
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,960
was equally surprised that he didn't get more run with

566
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,119
them fantasy wise. That's the thing. I think people have

567
00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:43,960
an idea about Edvonson as being one of these offensive defensemen,

568
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,079
and I understand where it comes from. He's highly mobile,

569
00:24:46,079 --> 00:24:48,599
he's very good with his stick. He can score, But

570
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,480
I think his role is going to be more of

571
00:24:50,519 --> 00:24:53,480
that being that big six to six defensive stopper that

572
00:24:53,559 --> 00:24:56,680
I think he is so uniquely suited to being. He's

573
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,480
got a really good defensive stick. Obviously, there's always going

574
00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:01,079
to be a tie in place for him to use

575
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,359
his skill, to use his instincts to activate and be aggressive.

576
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:05,960
He scored a great goal in Toronto late in the

577
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,319
year that I think was indicative of what he can

578
00:25:08,319 --> 00:25:10,000
do off the give and go, and he's got a

579
00:25:10,039 --> 00:25:12,519
good shot and all that, but I think he's more

580
00:25:12,599 --> 00:25:14,160
the type that's going to be in that kind of

581
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,319
thirty to forty point range for most of his career.

582
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,279
Does he get there right away?

583
00:25:18,279 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 3: I don't know.

584
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,319
Speaker 5: I think he's got some power play too ability, but

585
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,400
I wouldn't put him ahead of gust of center Sider

586
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,400
if both of those guys are healthy, and I wouldn't

587
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,279
expect that Detroit's going to do that. I'm a big

588
00:25:27,319 --> 00:25:29,960
believer in Simon Edvanson as like a twenty two plus

589
00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:32,480
minute a night defenseman for a really long time. I

590
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,119
think he's going to be an excellent player, and because

591
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,680
of the puck skills in the skating, there is that

592
00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:40,480
upside to be way more productive than what I just said.

593
00:25:40,519 --> 00:25:43,680
But I think where he's most valuable is by just

594
00:25:43,839 --> 00:25:47,240
using his skating to kill transition to crush guys behind

595
00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:49,359
the net. He showed more physicality than he has before

596
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,359
and really to a skate pressure behind the net be

597
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,640
a breakout machine for them. I think he's going to

598
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,519
be an exceptionally valuable defenseman in the NHL, probably not

599
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,079
quite as much, especially right away in fantasy hockey, but

600
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,160
we'll see over time how that progresses. Because he's got

601
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,160
really all the talent I think that you could want

602
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,599
in the defenseman. I just think he's probably best suited

603
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,759
to play a little more of that five on five

604
00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:15,039
play driver role more so than the point tallying role.

605
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,559
Speaker 2: Very true. Often in fantasy we say guy like that

606
00:26:18,599 --> 00:26:21,240
are too good for their own good, they get put

607
00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:23,200
in the defensive roles, And I agree with you there.

608
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,759
So let's move over to the goalies now. The Red

609
00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:28,480
Wings were twenty fourth and expected goal against for sixty

610
00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:32,480
conceded the twenty seventh actual goals against. Neither of these

611
00:26:32,519 --> 00:26:36,160
are good playoff team numbers. Raymer played twenty five games.

612
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,079
He's gone, we don't need to spend much time on him,

613
00:26:38,079 --> 00:26:40,039
but he easily had the worst of the goal save

614
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,839
above expected. Alex Lyon played the most goals, and his

615
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,200
goals save above expected was the second worst. He also

616
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,400
has one more year at nine hundred thousand, who's only

617
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,400
played nineteen games. The number these game numbers have been

618
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,440
limited by injury for him, but he had pretty decent

619
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:54,519
numbers when he did play.

620
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 5: Then to confuse.

621
00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: The issue Isierman acquired Jack Campbell probably not a factor,

622
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,319
and Cam tal it to crowd the crease even more.

623
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,440
I'm really confused as of what's going to happen in Detroit,

624
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,160
maxus Year. I know you've mentioned it previously on other shows,

625
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,200
but it just seems like this is a very crowded

626
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,519
net and who is going to emerge and what do

627
00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:14,880
we expect from these guys going into the six season.

628
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the biggest complicating factor is Whoso's health

629
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,400
right like that he's getting paid the most money, and

630
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,039
I think they paid him that money because they did

631
00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:24,519
believe that he had a path to becoming like a

632
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:27,160
good starter for them, and I think he was for

633
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,119
the first half of his first season, and then he

634
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,720
got overworked and then some injury stuff has popped up

635
00:27:31,759 --> 00:27:35,200
and it's gotten a little away from him, and that's

636
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,960
where you see them bring in a guy like Cam Talbot, who,

637
00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:40,440
as we stand here today, would be my pick to

638
00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:42,680
get the Lion's share of the games for them, not

639
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,279
in a heavy way. I don't even know if it

640
00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:47,440
will be the majority of the games, but in terms

641
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,119
of the plurality, he would be my guess I'm curious

642
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,839
how he will respond to going from an excellent defensive

643
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,119
environment in Los Angeles to a less than excellent defensive

644
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,400
environment in Detroit. We've seen that bite people before, and

645
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,400
I think there's a real candidate, He is a real

646
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,240
candidate to have that happen this season. Alex Lyon, I

647
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,880
think you know what you're getting with him. I think

648
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,920
he's a really good kind of one B goalie, best

649
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,519
suited to play thirty to forty games for you, and

650
00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:14,519
he can be really good, he can get really hot

651
00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:16,880
for you. He can also have quieter stretches. But it's

652
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,480
not quite as much of a discrepancy as a guy

653
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,480
like Alex Nadalkovich, who is either going to be on

654
00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:25,079
fire and stealing you two weeks of games or potentially

655
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,039
costing you a week of games kind of thing. And

656
00:28:27,079 --> 00:28:29,359
so there's a little higher floor with Lyon, and I

657
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,440
don't think you sacrifice that much on the ceiling with

658
00:28:31,519 --> 00:28:33,559
him compared to a guy like Nadelkovic. It's just the

659
00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:36,920
workload is never going to be like a sixty game guy.

660
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,839
I don't think for him. I think he's just best

661
00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:41,359
suited as that one bee and that's a really good

662
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,160
valuable piece for an NHL team, Probably again not what

663
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,079
you're building your fantasy team around, but if you're streaming

664
00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:48,759
a guy and you just want a guy who you know, Hey,

665
00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:50,920
this guy might get two starts this week, and if

666
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,400
they come on the right days, that can help me.

667
00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:55,640
I do think Lion's a nice option who sows the

668
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,680
wild card because I think they like his style of goaltending.

669
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,799
It's just the healthcare question. And could I confidently tell

670
00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:04,079
you he's starting more than twenty games this year. No,

671
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,480
but I think there's also a pathroom to start forty

672
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:08,839
five and if he stays healthy and gives him really

673
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,960
steady technical goaltending. So I'd stay away from the Red

674
00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:14,599
Wings goalie room. I think maybe i'd take a late

675
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,440
rounder online just because I think he's got the easiest,

676
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,599
cleanest path to twenty five to thirty good starts. But

677
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,720
I think it's going to be a frustrating goalie room

678
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,480
to try and fantasy manage for fantasy managers.

679
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: Well, tremendous, Max, This has been some great info on

680
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,519
the Red Wings. I think people know how to find you,

681
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,799
But just in case they don't, where should they check

682
00:29:35,839 --> 00:29:36,359
out their work?

683
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 5: Your work yeah, I'm on the Athletic at Theathletic dot com.

684
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,599
You can follow me on Twitter at m Underscore Boltman.

685
00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:44,680
Like you said, I'm not that hard to find and

686
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:47,759
always happy to help people out if they've got fantasy questions.

687
00:29:47,359 --> 00:29:50,759
You guys definitely keep the interest going in our sport

688
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:52,240
in some of the dog days of it when other

689
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,119
people tune out. So always appreciative of the fantasy players,

690
00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:56,880
and that's one of the reasons I wanted to give

691
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,519
it a whirl last year. It was a pretty good time.

692
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,920
I cannot say that I was particular successful, so I

693
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,359
will give you that caveat, but.

694
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,319
Speaker 3: It's a matter of time. Thank you so much for

695
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,200
coming on. Max.

696
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 5: Absolutely, guys, Thanks than Wolf.

697
00:30:20,519 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: Then well that's good. Fire past up. Oh my goodness,

698
00:30:23,759 --> 00:30:30,720
long long go with a cat quick grab. Now it's

699
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,559
your wingley goalie talk. But Kat Silverman, Kat's instincts.

700
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: Time once again for Kat's instincts. With Kat Silverman and

701
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,039
gold mag we're talking at Red Wings prospect goalies, which means,

702
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:43,960
of course we have to start with Sebastian Kosa, who

703
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,680
was picked ahead of Jasper Wallstad our favorite, but he

704
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:51,039
is still in his own right a very good goalie,

705
00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:54,000
and he was twenty twenty one first round pick, fifteenth overall,

706
00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:56,319
six foot six two and nine pounds. He spent most

707
00:30:56,359 --> 00:30:58,720
of last season in the EHL, which we agreed was

708
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,640
probably best for him, just to get a lot of reps,

709
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,640
not necessarily meaning anything bad for him. And he was

710
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,839
in the AHL full time this season and went really

711
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,039
well two point four one GA nine to thirteen SA percent.

712
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,119
Is also strong in the playoffs, which is something we

713
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,720
talked about earlier was not true for a scar Off.

714
00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:18,640
He should be back in the HL next season. Plus,

715
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,920
the Red Wings have brought in give or take twenty

716
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,279
seven goalies on their roster, so there's a lot of

717
00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:26,440
guys ahead of him. Actually, Jack Campbell in the HL

718
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,559
might be a good thing for COSA. I'm not sure.

719
00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:32,200
Maybe there's some good mentorship there, maybe there's some help

720
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,559
on and off the ice. Last year we talked about

721
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:38,079
how we liked both Walsteat. We liked Walstet better than

722
00:31:38,119 --> 00:31:41,799
Cosa and may have looked especially good and that dominant

723
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:45,880
admitton Oil Kings team. And you also talked previously about

724
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,319
how Cosa is kind of below that walstat at scar

725
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,720
Off night tier so looking at the hockey prospecting now

726
00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:55,720
his equivalencies and the kind of thirty five percent range.

727
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,480
There's a couple of guys in this range, but cam

728
00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:00,440
Ward is one that kind of sticks out as a

729
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,039
camp for him ended up being an average starter after

730
00:32:03,079 --> 00:32:05,400
that first season where he won the Cup. So, kay,

731
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,680
what are your things to tell us about Spashian Kosa now?

732
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 6: So I did watch a handful of games for him,

733
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,559
just trying to I went in with the most open

734
00:32:18,599 --> 00:32:20,640
of hearts, just because I've been a little hard on

735
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,039
him in the past, and I think it was a

736
00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:27,559
really good thing that he spent that full year in

737
00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:30,759
the ECHL before making his way to the AHL, because

738
00:32:30,759 --> 00:32:32,680
one of the things that we in the past have

739
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:36,160
talked about with him was that he looked a little slow.

740
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:39,680
He looked like he had decent positioning. He's obviously got

741
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,160
the size, but just didn't seem like he was able

742
00:32:42,279 --> 00:32:48,400
to adapt and move during higher pressure situations if there

743
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,759
was a defensive breakdown in front of him. And that

744
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,319
made me a little nervous that if they threw him

745
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,720
directly into the AHL, we'd see him get lit up.

746
00:32:56,759 --> 00:33:01,559
It would almost cause a problem with his with his

747
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,400
overall development trajectory set him back a little bit and

748
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,759
then keep him in the minors for a little too long,

749
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:09,680
which I know Red Wings fans were hoping they would

750
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,759
get to see him jump to the pros immediately, But

751
00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:16,359
it looks like he did a good job using his

752
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,960
reps in the ECCHL to just get in that gameplay,

753
00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:23,039
get those extra reps, work on solidifying his technique while

754
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,839
working on his conditioning a ton, because he looked a

755
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,400
lot faster in essentially every clip I saw of him

756
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,960
from this past season. He looked like he's got some

757
00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:39,240
faster movement, his skating looks a little bit stronger. I

758
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:42,160
love the facts that he'll likely have Jack Campbell in

759
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,640
the Age felt with him next year because if there

760
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,319
is a goaltender who knows how to get through the

761
00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:55,039
grind and both mentally improve your game and physically improve

762
00:33:55,079 --> 00:34:00,839
it without getting lost, it's Jack Campbell. Be He has

763
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,599
been very open in the past about how he spent

764
00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:07,559
so much time when he hit the pros, spent a

765
00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:09,079
little too long in the Age al he was a

766
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:15,000
highly touted prospect. Felt like seeing some of his former

767
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:20,440
Team USA teammates making it to the pros before him,

768
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,239
like he needed to try and mimic their games, pulled

769
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,000
too much from too many goaltenders, lost any sense of

770
00:34:27,079 --> 00:34:29,480
self that he had in his game, and then had

771
00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:33,400
to really just clean house and start from scratch. And

772
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:38,840
so I think that having someone like that around to

773
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,360
help COSN remind him if he does get antsy or frustrated,

774
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,320
if he feels like he's not getting the opportunity he wants,

775
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,480
or he feels like his game needs to adapt even faster,

776
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,840
even further, you know, have someone there who says, I've

777
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,079
been through this, and this is how to remain patient.

778
00:34:58,119 --> 00:35:00,480
This is how to stay true to your time technique

779
00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:04,480
while allowing your game to improve organically. This is how

780
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:08,400
to help with your conditioning without trying to change up

781
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,000
your entire style to quote unquote seem more like in

782
00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:16,400
NHL or so, I think that could be really good

783
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:22,079
for him. I think we are still ways away from

784
00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:24,519
looking at the Red Wings as a powerhouse team. Again,

785
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,000
no offense to the Detroit Red Wings, but I think

786
00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:30,239
he's a good goaltender to have in their system. I

787
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,559
don't think that means he should have been their first pick,

788
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,480
since famously there were other goaltenders right there that we

789
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:41,199
probably would have picked instead. But I think he is

790
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,079
at the very least going to be a successful goaltender

791
00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:47,360
for them as long as he continues to look like

792
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,719
he has the last couple of years.

793
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,159
Speaker 2: Here A nice that's great stuff on Kosa. Let's move

794
00:35:53,199 --> 00:35:55,920
on to the next guy. Kenneth Augustine the third or

795
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,840
you might know him as Trey Augustine. Everyone else now

796
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,079
you cat, I know you knew that. Drafted by the

797
00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:04,800
Red Wings forty first overall in twenty twenty three, six foot,

798
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,440
one hundred and ninety pounds, had a fantastic season at

799
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,239
Michigan State. They battle to Michigan in the second round

800
00:36:10,679 --> 00:36:13,440
overtime classic game could have gone either way, could have

801
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,079
been in the frozen four. Stellar numbers for US as

802
00:36:16,119 --> 00:36:18,480
they won the U twenty World Junior Championship. He also

803
00:36:18,519 --> 00:36:21,239
played for USA at the World the Men's Championship and

804
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,719
had pretty stellar numbers there. Last season.

805
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,159
Speaker 5: You talked about how it's really good having two goalies.

806
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: With such different styles between Augustine and Kosa, and that's

807
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:32,559
still true, and they're one year older. He will be

808
00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:35,800
back at Michigan State next season. He's still you know,

809
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,199
nineteen so he's got a ways to go. His equivalency

810
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,280
looking really good though he's he actually currently compares really

811
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,079
nicely to Spencer Night. And what do your instincts tell

812
00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:47,119
us about Augustine.

813
00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 6: I think he's still really Like we've said, it's nice

814
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,280
having two promising goaltenders in your system who played very

815
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,880
different styles of game. I think that Augustine realize a

816
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,199
little more in situational awareness and positioning within the crease

817
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:10,559
because obviously he's not afforded the same net coverage that

818
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:13,960
Sebastian Kosa has. He's a much more nimble skater, a

819
00:37:14,039 --> 00:37:17,039
much more agile goaltender. It was really nice getting to

820
00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:21,159
see him essentially goes through three different tiers within the

821
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,559
last year. He played the collegiate level, looked great, played

822
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,280
the World Juniors looked great, played at World looked great.

823
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,920
That's like you mentioned Spencer Knight, someone who pomps well

824
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,920
to him statistically. I think that's something that Spencer Knight

825
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,119
had in his favor when we were looking at him

826
00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:48,119
as a developing goaltender. He was someone who you could

827
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,320
look at him play at the USHL level, the National

828
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,159
Development Program level, against collegiate players, against other U twenty

829
00:37:57,199 --> 00:38:03,360
players against World Championship players, and his game adapted really

830
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,639
well regardless of the quality of competition he was going

831
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,360
up against. And that's what we see from Trea Augustine

832
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,519
as well. He's a little bit more mobile than Spencer

833
00:38:12,599 --> 00:38:15,760
Knight is almost more of a Drew Kameso type player.

834
00:38:16,599 --> 00:38:20,760
But that's not necessarily a bad thing, and it's nice

835
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,000
having these two different styles within the Red Wings system

836
00:38:24,199 --> 00:38:27,119
because they're a team in transition. So this is a

837
00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:32,639
team that theoretically, by the time either Augustine or Sebastian

838
00:38:32,679 --> 00:38:36,360
Coosa is ready for the NHL, we're going to see

839
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,039
a more distinct identity from the team, and we'll probably

840
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:45,199
see one of them emerges a slightly better fit for

841
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,239
the team's overall system. And we don't necessarily need to

842
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,840
know who that is right now. We just we have

843
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,639
two really good goaltenders in the system that regardless of

844
00:38:55,679 --> 00:38:57,760
what the team's identity looks like in the next couple

845
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,880
of years, chances are they have a prospect goaltender who

846
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,519
fits up pretty well, which is not something that I

847
00:39:05,559 --> 00:39:07,039
think every team.

848
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,199
Speaker 2: Right now can say definitely not. It seems like some

849
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,599
of the goalies in the system might not actually fit

850
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,840
there NTL system very well, even though they might be

851
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,280
a good prospect. So that's always something interesting to keep

852
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,840
in mind. Thanks Kat for giving us your instincts on

853
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,039
the Detroit Red Wings.

854
00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 5: Goalies dig.

855
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:43,119
Speaker 3: Good dynasty dig Troy Bred Wings. Addition, this is a

856
00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:46,079
pretty good system victory. You ranked them tied for tenth

857
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,719
in the National Hockey League in your system rankings. It

858
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,280
starts out with a man who we were just hearing

859
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,039
about in the twenty twenty three draft. I do believe

860
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,679
you're no brainer. Who is it?

861
00:39:58,559 --> 00:40:02,599
Speaker 2: That's right? Axel Soun Pelika twenty twenty three, seventeenth overall

862
00:40:02,639 --> 00:40:05,000
pick five to eleven, one hundred and eighty five pounds,

863
00:40:05,079 --> 00:40:08,800
right handed d After playing twenty two SHL games last season,

864
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,000
Asp played all thirty nine regular season games with Schalleftia

865
00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:16,800
Aik in the SHL and put up eighteen points not bad,

866
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,559
then another seven and fourteen playoff games en route to

867
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,440
in SHL championship. That is pretty fantastic stuff for a

868
00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:29,400
very young defenseman, and so very impressed with XL Sindy

869
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:34,360
and Pelika in that in that perspective. Along the way,

870
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,039
he helped Sweden win the silver medal at the U

871
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:40,199
twenty World Junior Championship and was named the best defenseman

872
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,679
in the tournament. So all of that is pretty great stuff.

873
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,719
Looking at Mitch Brown's tracking data at the World Junior Championship,

874
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:51,880
this was the perspective for ASP. He had a ninetieth

875
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,639
percentile overall. His transition game was also ninety. Defense was

876
00:40:56,639 --> 00:40:59,239
a little bit lower at seventy six. Percentile on offense

877
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,400
was an eighty five four, so overall really good numbers.

878
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,400
Expected goals per sixty were was one of his best features,

879
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,039
and he shoots a lot, so that offense is great.

880
00:41:09,079 --> 00:41:12,320
The expected primary assists and slot passes was definitely a

881
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,679
little bit lower, closer to average. Then his transition data

882
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,639
is just incredible, entries, exits, all of that very successful.

883
00:41:20,159 --> 00:41:23,480
So overall the primary point involvement and the game score

884
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:26,599
very good. Not as good as getting plays to the middle,

885
00:41:26,639 --> 00:41:30,159
but overall the advantages created were very high. And I

886
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,880
was looking at some of the offensive build up and

887
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:38,239
playmaking that he tracked, and it's interesting because according to

888
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,440
this data, ASP was much closer to Drew Fordesku an

889
00:41:41,559 --> 00:41:45,559
R two Karku than he was to Dentimittachuck, and Lane Hudson,

890
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,639
so that was interesting. So Hudson Mataichuk were way better

891
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,320
than a lot than pretty much everyone else, and ASP

892
00:41:53,519 --> 00:41:58,119
was closer to that average and like almost replacement level defenseman,

893
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,920
so that was interesting. Kind of depends on how you

894
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:02,159
look at the data, I guess, and of course very

895
00:42:02,159 --> 00:42:05,840
small sample size. Looking at the FHL player card for ASP,

896
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,039
you can see that his shots are really high, his

897
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:12,360
hits are average, and his blocks are really low. His

898
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,000
goals for sixty really high, his assists closer to average.

899
00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:19,840
So I'm always worried about players like this because you

900
00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:22,119
love to see the goals, but from a defenseman that

901
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:26,360
tends to be not very reproducible and maybe have more variants.

902
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,920
So I hope that he builds up more of his

903
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:33,559
assists because that's easier for defenseman to replicate. All in all,

904
00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:36,800
though pretty decent profile for a young defenseman on a

905
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,840
very the most successful SHL team this season, some of

906
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,960
his underlying numbers aren't quite as flattering. He had some

907
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,880
pretty good corsi in Fenwick, but his transition game in

908
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,800
the SHL, his high dangered chances in puck movement was

909
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,760
below average, So those disappointing. But let's find out a

910
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,639
little bit more about ASP from our FHL scout.

911
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,679
Speaker 3: It's our scout, Tony, my good buddy. Tony talking about

912
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,599
Axel Sanding Pelica, he says asks of the skating excellent, skating,

913
00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:09,159
good edges, quick change of direction, passing and handling great

914
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,719
getting the puck out or passing to a teammate in

915
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:16,840
the offensive zone. Axel can do it all. Shooting not Axl. Sanding.

916
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,480
Pelica's strong suit mostly wrist or snap shots, but can

917
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:25,159
be effective. The IQ all far above average, no panic,

918
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,079
even fighting off a bigger player in front of the net.

919
00:43:28,519 --> 00:43:31,760
Forard checking, Axl's usually in position, so not a lot

920
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,360
of Ford checking needed. According to Tony defense, he's positionally sound,

921
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,440
not a body style defense, but between skating, passing and

922
00:43:40,519 --> 00:43:43,440
IQ able to keep the puck away from offensive players.

923
00:43:44,119 --> 00:43:46,840
The best asset then for Tony is the skating and

924
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,239
the IQ. The biggest concern shooting, and maybe Size needs

925
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,519
to work on getting his shot on his own and

926
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:58,920
developing a harder shot. The top tier outcome here tier one,

927
00:43:59,079 --> 00:44:02,320
number one, pair, number power play. Tony says, the sky's

928
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,480
a limit here. That's because the IQ is skating that

929
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:07,719
allows him to move along the blue line to find

930
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,119
an open lane or pass to get the puck into

931
00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:14,199
the net. The median outcome let's say, maybe more of

932
00:44:14,199 --> 00:44:16,880
a Tier three type guy spot power play duty six

933
00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:21,679
seventh y somewhere in there. That's because if he loses

934
00:44:22,519 --> 00:44:24,719
some of his skating an advantage as he goes up

935
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,320
in competition or does not improve shooting, this could happen.

936
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,039
Stylistic comparable. Tony goes with Quinn Hughes on this one

937
00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:35,119
and finally says he really likes Saxel's game and hopes

938
00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:38,280
everything works out so selfishly Tony can watch him for

939
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,079
years to come. At Little Caesar's Arena, Victor the Mason

940
00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:46,760
Black NHL Rank King Pole puts Axel, Sandy and Pelica

941
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,840
against other recent high first round defenseman Kevin Korchinski of

942
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,199
the Chicago Blackhawks, and Korchinsky wins this one handily, sixty

943
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,880
three to thirty seven percent. Victor, is that the way

944
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:02,800
you rank him? Wow?

945
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,079
Speaker 2: This is a really hard one.

946
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:04,519
Speaker 5: Actually.

947
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: Obviously we're seeing Korcchyinsky play now in the NHL. You're

948
00:45:09,519 --> 00:45:13,760
excited about that. He's not necessarily getting the best opportunity.

949
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,320
There's Seth Jones there, there's some other competition internally, and

950
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,079
obviously lift Shunoff being there. Now Muddy's the waters a

951
00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:25,840
little bit. But we have seen Korcchyinsky play really well internationally.

952
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,440
We've seen him play for that Seattle Thunderbirds team. He

953
00:45:29,559 --> 00:45:32,760
was excellent, but I was always a little bit skeptical

954
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,480
of the high end output of the offense For Koorcchyinsky,

955
00:45:35,519 --> 00:45:38,800
I think some of his other tools are really good. ASP,

956
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,440
on the other hand, we've seen him now play more

957
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,239
of a primary role on a really good team, but

958
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,280
he has I think more offensive acumen than does Korchynsky.

959
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,239
So I think I would take ASP here. We've also

960
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,719
heard from Max about just what's happening. We see most

961
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,760
Cider playing the most difficult minutes in the NHL. We're

962
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,760
seeing Simon Edvanson likely being cast into more of a

963
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,360
two way role. I think ASP is the one who

964
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,719
is destined to be this power play quarterback of the future,

965
00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:09,639
So I think I would take I think I would

966
00:46:09,639 --> 00:46:12,400
go against the grain here and take ASP. I really

967
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:17,000
like his his abilities and what he's shown internationally and

968
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,280
on the SHL, so I think I would take him.

969
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,800
I like his trajectory a little bit better his looking

970
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,760
at hockey prospecting, though it's hilarious because Korchynski up in

971
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,679
the seventy eight to sixty nine percent chance of being

972
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,880
a star of the last two seasons. That's really high.

973
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:36,960
ASP started at nine and went up to twenty percent.

974
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,360
But I think the fact that what he's doing in

975
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,760
the SHL to me is just much more impressive, So

976
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,519
I think I would still go with that. But just

977
00:46:44,559 --> 00:46:48,559
to mention the hockey prospecting for ASP, some of his

978
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,280
what looked more like reasonable outcomes for him. Pavel Minschikov

979
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,119
is on here. Rasmus Sandin is another Swede who he

980
00:46:56,159 --> 00:46:59,760
looks a lot alike, and we've seen what's happened with Sandin.

981
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,280
Think the biggest issue with Sandean is that all around

982
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,360
play that has been maybe not quite as good, and

983
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,880
he also didn't necessarily get the opportunity which may happen

984
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,880
to ASP. But I think San Dean's sending Pelika's all

985
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,320
around game is a little bit better than Rasmus Sandein's.

986
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,599
Looking at the j fresh card, ASP has eleven percent

987
00:47:17,679 --> 00:47:19,679
chance of being a sart ninety eight percent chance of

988
00:47:19,679 --> 00:47:22,719
being an NHL or so pretty much a lock there. Overall,

989
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,920
I think this is a really exciting prospect and they're

990
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,280
going to be lucky to be watching him for years

991
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,079
to come in Detroit.

992
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,159
Speaker 3: Very good. Next up, who's your need to know prospect picture?

993
00:47:34,519 --> 00:47:37,519
Speaker 2: We already talked about Simon and Edvnson in the main

994
00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:40,119
part of the show, because he's most likely going to

995
00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:42,400
be in the NHL twenty twenty one sixth overall pick,

996
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,480
six six, two hundred sixteen pound left handed d back

997
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,440
to back over half point per game performances in the

998
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,440
AHL sixteen NHL games this season, as Max and I

999
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:54,800
talked about, he probably should have gotten more would have

1000
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,880
been good for the team. Looking at his FHL player card,

1001
00:47:58,199 --> 00:48:02,400
you can see that his BASH was before he got

1002
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,880
to the AHL. His BASH projected to be elite. In

1003
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,039
the AHL, it looks like it's more average, so that's disappointing.

1004
00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:11,039
His shots, hits, and blocks are all right around average,

1005
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,639
and actually his combined total is a little bit less,

1006
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,519
so that's really disappointing. His goals and assists though much

1007
00:48:18,519 --> 00:48:21,639
better than they were previously and before he came to

1008
00:48:21,679 --> 00:48:24,679
the AHL. He's at eightieth percentile for both, so maybe

1009
00:48:24,679 --> 00:48:26,960
he can boost that up a little bit. His pims

1010
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,159
are actually relatively high, so if you like that sort

1011
00:48:29,199 --> 00:48:31,559
of thing, that could be good. Well, let's hear a

1012
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:34,840
little bit more about Sewan Evanson from our FRASL scout.

1013
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 3: Scouting report today is from Tony Simone edmanson skating. Smooth,

1014
00:48:39,519 --> 00:48:44,679
efficient skater looks effortless, passing and handling very good both

1015
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,360
getting puck out of de zone to get teammate in

1016
00:48:48,199 --> 00:48:52,039
or pass shot toward the net. Shooting is decent. Needs

1017
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:55,039
to work on this, but Tony thinks it'll come in time.

1018
00:48:55,159 --> 00:48:58,880
The IQ above average. Vision is excellent. Sometimes a little panic,

1019
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:03,360
but he can usually recover for checking. Tony's seen him

1020
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,280
for check when he has went deep into the offensive zone,

1021
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,400
but usually he'll be responsible and not go to deep

1022
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,800
get back to the D zone. Defense not a lot

1023
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,920
of hits, but uses size well and tight and a

1024
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,159
lot of stick work to take the puck away from

1025
00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:22,280
the opponent. So the best asset the size and the

1026
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,920
hockey IQ. Skating would be third on the list. Biggest

1027
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,760
concern knowing when to go into the deep O zone

1028
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,480
or stay back. He can get beat going back to

1029
00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:34,599
the D zone. That will come with confidence and time.

1030
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,679
He improved during the stretch Tony watched him, so the

1031
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,400
top tier potential Tier two points wise, top four defenseman,

1032
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:49,599
power play and penalty kill two. Justification is he has

1033
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:51,840
the skill and ability, but still has to learn timing,

1034
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,840
maybe a matter of slotting. Considers other departners being further

1035
00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:00,519
along like Morerit Cider, and if he he hits the

1036
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,599
median outcome, it'll be a Tier three third pair. Maybe

1037
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,119
a little bit of time on the power plane PK.

1038
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,840
That's because he's got some inconsistencies, but again with confidence

1039
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:15,280
in learning, hopefully he'll overcome that projection. The stylistic comparable

1040
00:50:15,559 --> 00:50:18,800
offensive side kil mccarr not as fast, but he makes

1041
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,079
up for it with long, smooth strides and a defense

1042
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:27,079
maybe a young Nick Lidstrom's let's call that a lower

1043
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,480
lower rank based on Tony's assessment here, he's got a

1044
00:50:30,519 --> 00:50:32,840
chance to be a stalwart on the Wings blue line

1045
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,400
for years to come and solidify the Wings Top two

1046
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:40,079
de pair Mason Black, the NHL ranking sent out the poll.

1047
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,000
It's going to be Simone Evanson versus our Jim Love Schoenoff.

1048
00:50:43,519 --> 00:50:47,079
My goodness, Simone Edmonson gets wiped off the map. Love

1049
00:50:47,079 --> 00:50:52,239
Schuonov seventy two point five percent, Edmonson twenty seven point

1050
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,880
five percent. Victor, is that the way you would rank

1051
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:56,280
these two?

1052
00:50:56,679 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 2: That's hard to go against the recent number two. Overall,

1053
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,199
he does look very impressive, and yeah, I think I

1054
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,559
probably would go with liftch you Enoff. I also really

1055
00:51:06,599 --> 00:51:08,559
agree with what Max said in the earlier part of

1056
00:51:08,599 --> 00:51:12,159
the show. I think that Edvonson where he is right now,

1057
00:51:12,519 --> 00:51:16,559
is going to be cast more as this shutdown kind

1058
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:21,239
of defenseman, and I think that's possible for Lift Schoonov too,

1059
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,159
but we don't know yet. And I think, as we

1060
00:51:23,199 --> 00:51:25,880
talk about with the funnel, there's more range of outcomes

1061
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,159
for Lift Shoonoff right now, and it is still possible

1062
00:51:28,199 --> 00:51:32,239
that he ends up becoming a really excellent offensive defenceman,

1063
00:51:32,639 --> 00:51:35,159
but he might also end up getting cast more in

1064
00:51:35,159 --> 00:51:39,199
that two way role. So we just don't really know yet.

1065
00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:41,360
But I'll give it to Lift Schoenoff because the range

1066
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,719
of outcomes are wider, and I think he could end

1067
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,119
up flexing a lot more of his offensive ability, and

1068
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,960
so I would give it that. Plus he has a

1069
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,960
really high draft pedigree. He's going into this system where yeah,

1070
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,480
there are a couple guys there that might be ahead

1071
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,480
of him in terms of having more experience, but I

1072
00:51:59,519 --> 00:52:01,760
think he's the kind of cream that could push himself

1073
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,639
to the top. So I could see Lift Suonoff being

1074
00:52:03,639 --> 00:52:06,519
a top pair defenseman and he could end up being

1075
00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:10,280
more like most cider and valuable, but not a ton

1076
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,920
of power play time, maybe more like average or splitting time.

1077
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,320
But I think it's more questionable for Lift Shoonoff, actually

1078
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,800
for Edvonson. So I would take Lift shuon Off here. Yeah,

1079
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,239
I would take Lift shoon Off here, and I think

1080
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,400
that his points, his pnhly is maybe a little aggressive,

1081
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,119
though like over eighty, I think that's probably a little unrealistic.

1082
00:52:29,159 --> 00:52:31,760
I think he's probably more like a fifty to sixty

1083
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,880
point guy is pretty reasonable with upside for more. So, Yeah,

1084
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,480
I like that. Looking at the hockey prospecting between these two,

1085
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,000
Liftchuenoff has a seventy three percent chance of being a

1086
00:52:41,039 --> 00:52:44,440
star and Edvonson has always been in the teens because

1087
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,920
of his early low production and before he got to

1088
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,840
the SHL, he is a little bit lower. Looking at

1089
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,800
Lift Shunoff, it seems pretty obvious from this model that

1090
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,000
he's better also from the pn HLE model and looking

1091
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,159
at some other reasonable comps for Edvonson Darnell Nurse, and

1092
00:53:01,159 --> 00:53:04,320
I think that's actually pretty realistic, especially based on what

1093
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,440
Max was saying and thinking about the role, that he's

1094
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,480
going to settle into being more of a matchup, being

1095
00:53:08,519 --> 00:53:11,079
more this physical guy who really like bangs in the

1096
00:53:11,079 --> 00:53:13,559
corner and gets the puck out. I think that he

1097
00:53:13,559 --> 00:53:15,760
could end up being pretty valuable in that sense if

1098
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,800
he ends up bumping up those pririffs, which he did

1099
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,440
show a predilection for in the SHL and part of

1100
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,360
what made me so excited about him in the first place.

1101
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,400
So I think Donald Nurse is actually a pretty good

1102
00:53:26,519 --> 00:53:28,400
comparable of who Edmondson could be.

1103
00:53:28,519 --> 00:53:28,639
Speaker 3: Like.

1104
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 2: The j Fresh card is pretty pessimistic on Edmondson has

1105
00:53:33,519 --> 00:53:35,480
m just two percent chance of being a star ninety

1106
00:53:35,519 --> 00:53:38,159
eight percent chance of being an nhller, so that's a

1107
00:53:38,199 --> 00:53:41,159
little bit down on him. But overall I like Edmondson

1108
00:53:41,159 --> 00:53:42,920
a lot, but I do think he's going to settle

1109
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,760
into being more of a priffs guy without so much

1110
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,840
of the power play points and Victor.

1111
00:53:49,079 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 3: Lastly, who's your keep your eye on prospect.

1112
00:53:52,519 --> 00:53:55,519
Speaker 2: Keep your eye on is Nate Danielson twenty twenty three,

1113
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,760
ninth overall pick six, two hundred and eighty seven pound,

1114
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,360
right center. He's pretty old for his draft class. He

1115
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,559
was on nineteen most of the season. He'll be in

1116
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:09,199
the AHL next season. He's graduated from junior and looking

1117
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,159
at last season that this was his last junior season.

1118
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,679
He had forty one points in twenty eight games for

1119
00:54:15,679 --> 00:54:18,320
the Portland Winterhawks after he got traded from the Brandon

1120
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:19,719
wie Kings, where he was about.

1121
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 5: A point per game.

1122
00:54:20,639 --> 00:54:23,159
Speaker 2: So this is the thing with Danielson is that he's

1123
00:54:23,199 --> 00:54:26,239
been stagnant around just over that point per game mark

1124
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,039
the last three seasons, and so you'd expect a little

1125
00:54:29,079 --> 00:54:31,519
bit more improvement from him season to season. It didn't

1126
00:54:31,559 --> 00:54:33,920
quite happen. Although he was great for Portland in their

1127
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,360
playoffs and he did get a couple of HL games

1128
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,599
and for the Grand Rapid Griffins, which was nice to see,

1129
00:54:39,639 --> 00:54:41,840
and he didn't he looked okay, they didn't use him

1130
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,400
too much. He was also at the World Juniors for

1131
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:48,360
Canada three points in five games. That was pretty good

1132
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,840
when you look at actually some of the tracking data

1133
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,199
though it's like he was definitely one of the better

1134
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,679
players in terms of expected primary points per sixty. He

1135
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:03,039
was actually been the Will Smith territory, not too far

1136
00:55:03,119 --> 00:55:06,360
behind Ryan Leonard and some of the other high point producers,

1137
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,360
so he was generating a lot it, just a lot

1138
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,679
of it wasn't going in, so that was good for

1139
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,199
Nate Danielson. Looking at his tracking data for Mitch Brown

1140
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,480
from the World Juniors, his overall was a ninety second percentile.

1141
00:55:18,599 --> 00:55:22,119
Defense was the best part of his game, ninety fourth percentile,

1142
00:55:22,199 --> 00:55:25,039
transition game was good at eighty two, and offense at

1143
00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:28,519
ninetieth percentile, So some really good numbers there. I also

1144
00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:31,119
pulled all his tracking data from back in twenty twenty

1145
00:55:31,159 --> 00:55:34,519
twenty one, where his offense was really not great, but

1146
00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:36,760
his defense has always been one of the best things

1147
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:40,440
about his game until this season. Actually, for some reason,

1148
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,719
I'm not really sure why, but he was up in

1149
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,920
the ninety fourth percentile last year with Brandon In this season,

1150
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,119
his defense fell to the thirty second percentile, So I'm

1151
00:55:49,159 --> 00:55:52,079
not really sure what happened there. Maybe the team around him,

1152
00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:54,559
the context was just a little bit different, but it

1153
00:55:54,639 --> 00:55:57,199
seemed like his defensive game I actually got worse. According

1154
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,800
to these charts. I'm sure there's some more contexts there

1155
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,159
that's a little bit concerning. The other interesting thing is

1156
00:56:02,159 --> 00:56:05,360
that typically you see the offense trend in a better direction,

1157
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,599
and it also got worse this season, still seventy six percentile,

1158
00:56:08,639 --> 00:56:12,159
but for a very old player, for his draft class,

1159
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,880
you'd expect it to be much better. He's a September

1160
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,360
twenty seventh, so just a couple weeks away from being

1161
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,239
eligible for the previous draft. Looking at Nate Danielson's FHL card,

1162
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,800
his shots are really high ninetieth percentile, and his hits

1163
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,920
and blocks are also pretty good, making him a ninetieth

1164
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,800
percentile overall for his bash, so that's really exciting. His

1165
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,519
assists for sixty are also really high. Some of his

1166
00:56:34,599 --> 00:56:37,000
other play driving numbers are all really good, so even

1167
00:56:37,039 --> 00:56:39,480
though maybe some of his other numbers didn't look so good,

1168
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,280
he was driving play and getting pucked to the hid

1169
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,840
danger areas really well. Well, let's hear a little bit

1170
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,679
more about Nate Danielson from her EVERHL scout, Jesse he.

1171
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 3: Hl scout Tony has this to say about Nate Danielson.

1172
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,880
He's a powerful skater with speed and agility passing and handled,

1173
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:59,559
very good passer, puck handler, especially off the rush. Shooting

1174
00:56:59,639 --> 00:57:02,360
is as well, with ability to create his own shot

1175
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,599
and score off the rush. IQ he sees the ice

1176
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,159
very well, very very good. IQ seems to be in

1177
00:57:09,199 --> 00:57:12,960
the right place at the right time for checking somewhat

1178
00:57:13,039 --> 00:57:15,880
well four check responsible on both ends of the ice.

1179
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,639
Defense great, anticipates well, is willing to for check give

1180
00:57:20,679 --> 00:57:24,239
his own opportunity to make a smart play. So the

1181
00:57:24,239 --> 00:57:27,760
best asset was the skating. Also the IQ passing right

1182
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,280
up there. Biggest concern. Not a lot of bash, but

1183
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:34,159
as he gets stronger, that could change top tier potential,

1184
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Tier one, top six for sure, plus power play and

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penalty kill. That's because of well, everything Tony says, the skating,

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the passing, the reading in the zone or on the rush,

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all points to that possible outcome the fiftieth percentile, tier three,

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third line defensive specialist and PK not power play. That's

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if his good skills don't develop to the level that

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they might otherwise stylistic comparable maybe a John Tavares and

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Tony's final thought could be a really good player for

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the Wings and seems to do everything pretty well. And

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our friend Mason Black the NHL ranking sets out the poll.

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It is the karate Kid versus the Champagne Nate Danielson

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versus Andrew Christall, and Christall of the Washington Capitals comes

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out ahead fifty six to forty four percent over Danielson.

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Doesn't sound like a surprise given what you have just

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been saying. You're victor. But is that the way that

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you would order these.

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Speaker 2: Two in fantasy? Definitely, I'm taking the Christal every day

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of the week. I think he has much more upside.

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He definitely has a lot more work to do to

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round out his game. But Danielsen just strikes me as

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a middle six center that I'm not sure is going

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to be too exciting in the NHL, so that would

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be my concern with him. Christall having a PNCHLI of

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above eighty is really solid. He had a great season

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with Kolowna, so I'm definitely taking Christall. Looking at the

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hockey prospecting between these two, Danielsen trended down to just

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ten percent chance of being a star and Christall remained

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in the fifties, so from fifty eight to fifty four

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percent chance of being a star, both of them around

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a sixty to seventy percent chance of being in NHLer.

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Looking at some other comps for Danielson, who seems realistic,

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I pulled Matthew Perrot. I think Matthew pro is probably

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a reasonable pick. He's an average producer, a middle six

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guy who could move up and down your lineup. I

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think that's probably who Danielson is. I'm not sure that

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he dictates being at the top, but he is definitely

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someone who is could be reliable to stick in the

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lineup wherever is needed. And in terms of his j

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Fresh card, eight percent chance of being a star, thirty

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three percent chance of being in NHLer. So yeah, not

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that exciting and overall, I think that's who Nate Danielson is.

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But there is potential for more he could impress in

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the AHL. It could be someone who does better with

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more talent around him, So we'll have to wait and see.

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But that's it for the Detroit Red Wings dig. If

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you want to hear more, you can listen to my

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top ten prospect recap on Patreon. If you're inteed some

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scotting with us, you can shoot me a dam on Twitter, discord,

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or email us.

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Speaker 3: That's right and we'll be right back when cloths up.

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it's really the only place to be because you can

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do all the rookie stuff you want to do there,

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not to mention all the customizations for scoring, for settings,

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whatever you want to do. Believe me, anything you've dreamed of,

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there's probably a way to do it. You know, it

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might be a bit of a hack, but you'll find

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a way. Fan traks HQ as fantasy content articles about

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but I know I behind the scene that the gang

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is getting back together. There's going to be more fantasy

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hockey content coming there. Fahl has a whole team. Content

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curator Kevin Adams helps out a ton with our show prep.

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You hear his work behind the scenes on episodes like

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this one. The growing tidy leagues are in the capable

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hands of a commission team including Tim Craftzer, Ryan and Simone.

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Jeremy Vee is our lead scout who gets these scouting

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reports together for the Dynasty Dig. Jason helps with our

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prospect ranks. Brandon is a website guru, a scout helping

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with the prospect ranks and visualizations. Ever going to Fantasyhockeylife

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probably picked that up, but still if you have some

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skills you'd like to lend the show. Hit Victor up

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in the discord on email or on X. We're brought

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to you by Daber Hockey and Dauber Prospects. Victor is

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other podcast, Prospects Report with Peter Harlan. Be sure to

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check out Victor's articles at ep Ringside, where he's part

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I do a solo show what's called Dynasty Sports Life.

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I talk four different dynasty sports sometimes multiple at the

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same time. It's all about the strategy, the bigger game

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within the game, and I go to multiple sports to

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