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Speaker 2: Thank you, Love you, Blain.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk some college football in this segment with a

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Speaker 2: Let's get out to the Hotline.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in Jake Crane to the show from the Crane

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and Company, Jake.

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Speaker 2: How you live it?

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Speaker 6: Oh Man doing fantastic Actually got out of Nashville and

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fled to a little bit of a better place because, man,

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I don't think we're gonna have power for another week,

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so I had had to get out of there.

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Speaker 2: So then, what have you been doing with like the show?

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Speaker 3: Obviously, you know recently for people don't know, you were

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up with Daily Wire before. ON three just picked up

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your show and you guys have been broadcasting from where

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through this process?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know ON three has a elite studio

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that's almost done, so we'll be doing it out of

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But we've really kind of been doing just our remote setup,

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waiting on that to get done. And then obviously the

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power goes out where we're at in Nashville, so I

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had to drive three hours south. I'm gonna be doing

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the show here for the next couple days, but we'll

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week and a half and we're fired up about it.

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Speaker 3: Love it man, Well, appreciate all that you do. I

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want to just kind of level set here. College football

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season is done right. We got a national champion Indiana,

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one of the best stories ever, comebacks, breakthroughs, underestimated stories

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in college football history. How would you describe the twenty

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twenty five season in the state of college football right now?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think the state of college football is two

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things can be true at once. That's the way I

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put it. Obviously, the popularity of the sport when you

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look at the viewership numbers including the National Championship game,

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are through the roof. But let's be honest, I think

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the only thing that could kill the love for college

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football is an asteroid are the aliens, So it's kind

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of hard to screw that up. But you know, at

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some point, and again I'm not an anti nil person.

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I'm not an anti having the ability to transfer person,

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but it's gotten to the point I think where it's

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out of control in that there's no guidelines, there's no

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real precedent, and you know, I feel like I'm basically

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capitulating to the fact that they've got to be employees,

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to fix this, because they're not two sided contracts. There's

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really no consequence for one party on the contract, and

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you can't really in a financial agreement if they are

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not employees and it's an employment agreement. So as much

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as it makes me nervous and as much as I

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wish we weren't to this point, I don't want to

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let perfect get in the way of better. They need

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to go ahead and be made employees so they can

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go through the same type of contract situation that we

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Speaker 7: I just think reached that point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, it's hard because the the fact that

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Indiana won the national championship right would speak to and

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that that Miami at ten seed made it to the

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national championship as well in the expanded playoff format, who

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hasn't won a national championship in a long time.

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Speaker 2: In the coming out of the ACC would let lead

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some people to believe, hey, this is good for the sport.

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Speaker 3: We are in a better state now than we've ever

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been because the college football called cabal, the cartel no

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longer reigns uh with with power right and uh corruption right,

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limiting the little guy, uh, the outsider from getting into

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the big boys club.

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Speaker 2: But on the other hand, there is a lot of chaos.

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Speaker 3: There is a lot of of craziness that's going on

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that it goes unchecked, and so, uh, there's definitely chaos.

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But also having the the underdo story of Indiana, I

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mean that has to make you optimistic about the future.

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Speaker 6: Right well, I mean from a parody standpoint, you're you're

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getting the parody. I mean, we had two group of

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five teams make a twelve team playoff, which I've got

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problems with. But the parody argument is, and I look,

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the South think that football is ours. I love football enough.

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I want it to be everybody's. I want people to

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love it like we love it in the South, on

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the West Coast and in the North and these other places.

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I want that and you can achieve that through parody.

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So that part of it I've got absolutely no problem with.

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I actually encourage it. But as far as as the

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nil stuff we were talking about, that's a total mess.

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I will say though. As crazy as the nil stuff

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and the transfer portal is what's even crazier is everybody

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keeps arguing about the number of teams that should be

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in the postseason. And I get it, but that's not

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even the biggest problem. The way we pick the teams

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is a disaster. So it's like if there's a car

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wreck and somebody who's got a broken hand and to

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collapse lungs, you don't work on the broken hand first.

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You take care of the most catastrophic injury.

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Speaker 7: And for some reason.

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Speaker 6: We're not taking care of that. People just they talk

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about it during the season and then forget about it.

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where people are making fun of Notre Name because Notre

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Dame got a piece of paper sign that said, if

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we finish in the top twelve, we should make the

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twelve team playoffs. Well that's how it should be for everybody.

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What are we doing, Like, I don't understand how it's

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crazy we don't do that.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot to really evaluate in the selection process.

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There's objective to the points, there's subjective committee points like

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you know, how much it should should it be based

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off of analytics, almost like a BCS algorithmic structure, and

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how much of it should be human nature committee based

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voting and decision making.

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Speaker 6: So, and I'm going to try not to be too

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long winded here, but I think I fixed it. To

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be honest, I think what we need to have is

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you need to have half objective, and I've got a

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formula for that. It's pretty easy and half subjective on

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the objective part. And we can argue about the variables

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that go into strength of schedule and strength of record.

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But let's say that you take strength of and I'm

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no mathematician, believe me, ben ask any teacher I ever had.

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Once they start putting letters in it, I'm screwed. But

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you take strength of schedule plus strength of record and

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you divide it by the number of games you played,

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and the lower number that it gets spit out the better.

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Like in golf. That does two things. It gives you

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a formula that we all know that, the coaches know that,

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the ads know that, the commissioners know, so you know

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out of schedule. The second thing it does it incentivizes

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playing in the conference championship game because you don't have

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to be goodwill hunting to figure out that if you

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divide something by thirteen, it's going to be less than

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if you divide it by twelve, therefore making your objective

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ranking higher regardless of what happens in that game. The

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second thing we need to do is have a committee,

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but not a committee made up of people that are

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getting paid currently by institutions that are eligible for the postseason.

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That you cannot. That's a conflict of interest. So the

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only reason North Carolina got into the men's basketball tournament

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last year for being honest, because Bubba Cunningham's ahead of

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the committee. You cannot be getting paid by a school

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that is eligible and be on the committee. So you

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pick whoever you want, but you can't be affiliated with that.

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They have a ranking that is made public and in

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the meetings and the ranking reveals are live streamed. You

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take one through fourteen because fourteen teams should make the playoff.

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then there's our twelve team tournament. We can rock and roll.

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But whatever ranking you have by your name, so BYU

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is nine, that is nine. And remember the lower the

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number the better. So the higher you are ranked and aggregate,

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the better you are ranked, the lower your number will be.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you know, would you have rather had the expansion

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to like sixteen, or did you like the fact that

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Speaker 6: I'm I know that when we go to sixteen, we're

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gonna go to twenty four. And what wordes me is

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everybody talks about watering down the regular season, but they

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talk about it in the wrong way because you can't

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advocate for player safety and then add seven playoff games like,

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you just can't do that. So if you go past sixteen,

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now we're talking about having to eliminate a regular season game,

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and their reasoning will be, well, we played eleven games

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I don't want that. I like the twelve game regular

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College Football segment brought to you by Dental Pros of

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Utah Dentalprosiutah dot Com. I want to ask you because

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Indiana obviously one of the most underrated teams in the

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ap Pole era, meaning you know, look they I mean,

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they've been one of the worst P four teams in

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college football playoff history, college football history. I was looking

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at some of the data here though, in the last

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six years, the teams that started outside of the Ape

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Pole and entered and State fixated in the top twenty

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five at the end of the season.

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Speaker 2: You know, who are they and why are they underrated?

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Speaker 3: BYU is the number one most underrated team in the

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modern era and even in the ap pole era if

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starting outside of the top twenty five but ends up

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inside the twenty five at the end of the season.

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top ten and wins in the last fifty years, and

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the top ten in wins. They had eleven in twenty twenty, ten,

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in twenty twenty one, eight in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: They had a dip in twenty twenty three. First year Big.

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Speaker 3: Twelve, they went five and seven. Then they had eleven

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they're underrated?

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Speaker 6: Do you think, well, you know, the ap poles it's

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it's a joke. Half the people in there couldn't wouldn't

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know a football.

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Speaker 7: If you see what Adam that happened.

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Speaker 6: But way too many people and the wrong people vote

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in the ap pole, so that polls disasters. Thank god,

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it has no technical bearing. Even though I think the

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rankings look at the apeople because they marror themselves a lot.

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That's what worries me. The problem I think when it

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comes to BYU is not enough national people are people

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that love this sport because I know BYU fans and

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the State of Utah y'all are nuts about But I

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got so much respect, and I would say this if

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I didn't come on the show. I've got a ton

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of respect for the State of Utah's love for and

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knowledge of football. But again, nationally, even though BYU's got

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a ton of tradition, I don't think they get the

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same brand bump Man.

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Speaker 7: I don't.

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Speaker 6: I think BYU has to prove it before anybody believes,

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as opposed to other teams. People just believe without them

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having to prove it. That's what I think the problem

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lies in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're spot on in that regard, And

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would you include in your algorithm your subjective and algorithmic methodology.

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Would you include the A people into the subjective or

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the objective component?

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Speaker 2: Because it is a metric, right, it isn't ranking.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you'd have to put it in the subjective,

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but I'd put it in the stupid subjective part of subjective.

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Speaker 2: I love it, man, crazy.

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Speaker 6: Joch like me, I was an I coached high school

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for one year as a substitute teacher. That you think

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I knew half the stuff they were telling the seniors

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in high school?

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Speaker 8: Like you didn't need me teaching the.

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Speaker 6: Class like some of these people. We don't need you

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teaching the class. We just need you to show up

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to the class and shut up and listen and maybe

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we'll ask you something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. Hey, best way to support you

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how you do it?

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Speaker 3: And in on the platforms, like let's promote you a

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little bit for those that are tuning into our show

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Speaker 6: Yeah, man, Well, you know we talk about a BYU.

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To be honest, the Big twelve stuff doesn't do great

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in the algorithm compared to the SEC in the Big ten.

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And I want to help change that. Want to help

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change that. That's why we taught Big twelve stuff. But look,

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if you the best way to support if you can

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make a checkout to Now I'm kidding, just go to

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Speaker 3: Love it well, you do, great word Jake and your crew,

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And congratulations on the move to ON three. Was that

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a long time coming? How did this all come about? Man,

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let's highlight that as well.

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Speaker 6: Man, you know, we were happy at the Daily Wire.

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It's just, you know, it's kind of a natural evolution

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for a sports show to be at a sports media company.

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We were kind of on an island a little bit

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over there, but we had watched ON three. We knew

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some people over there and they had shown a lot

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of interest in us, and it kind of blossom from

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there and it's it's been great so far. We're just

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ready to get in that new studio.

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Speaker 3: Hey Man, excited for your congratulations. Love talking ball with you. Well,

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who's your way too early team or top maybe top

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four teams to win the national championship next year?

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Speaker 6: Jake, Well, I tell you it's hard not to put

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LSU in there after what they got and you can look.

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I don't like the way Lane does a lot of stuff,

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But when I like my offense being a run by

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a guy like Lane Kiffin, like I like the chef

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at my restaurant to be overweight, I need him to

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really love what he's doing. So yeah, yeah, so I

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would put LSU in there. You're gonna have some of

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the same teams. I'm interesting to see with Indiana if

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the culture can continue with bringing in higher profile guys.

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I want to see that. It's hard for me not

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to believe in Signetti though. You know, I Ohio State's

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gonna be tough, dude. I mean, they're gonna be really,

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really good. They just reload, and I would say, looking

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at the sec outside of LSU, I'm really George is

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gonna come back with a vengeance now, and they're I

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think they're gonna be even better upfront defensively than they were.

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So those are the four I put in there.

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Speaker 3: Love that breakdown, Jake, We salute you, We appreciate you man.

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Thanks for joining us once again.

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Speaker 6: Hey, thank you guys for having me.

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representing BYU Athletics. We got Matt ya Monte on the line. Matt,

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how you living, brother?

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Speaker 7: I'm living, good Man. How are you doing, Ben?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good Man, just living the dream.

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Speaker 3: Look, there was some weeping, wailing and national teeth obviously

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live last night. I thought that BYU could possibly get

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blown out, but the Cardiac Koogs made it a close one.

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Speaker 2: There are silver linings.

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Speaker 3: What were your silver linings from the matchup last night

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at the Mary Center.

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Speaker 7: Well, the most obvious silver lining is MoU Canard Davis

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finally breaking out of one of the chilliest slumps I've

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ever seen through the first half in conference play.

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Speaker 8: This is before in the.

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Speaker 7: Second half where he went five or five, hit seventeen points,

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and he was red hot. But at the end of

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the first half his streak had ballooned. The four of

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thirty from three, which if you're doing your math at home,

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that's below fourteen percent.

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Speaker 8: And we all know how critical it is for.

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Speaker 7: Mood Davis and others, not just MOO but others to

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compliment the Big three. So I think it is a

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huge silver lining to have him go five to five

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from three in the second half, and then you get

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a couple of triples from postitch off the bench. Maybe

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that's someone you can sprinkle in from here to there,

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and then I think AJ alluded to this post game,

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but I do think another silver lining is in those

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final six minutes, in particular to Final four. It's felt

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like you saw the style of play that we all

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want to see, which is sharing the ball, getting up

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and down, being a little more deliberate, and running plays

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rather than your.

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Speaker 6: Turn, my turn.

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Speaker 7: And there's a place for that. I'm not saying there's not.

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Speaker 8: When someone's cooking, whether it's.

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Speaker 7: The AJ or Rob or Ritchie, see the hot player

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of the ball. There's always going to be a place

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for isolation, but your identity needs to be based on

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moving without the basketball. Sharing the ball might just be

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a personal preference fan, but I don't love possessions where

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someone dribbles it down, backs into a corner, or gets

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a pick and roll, and the ball never moves, it's

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never passed to anyone. And I felt like there was

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too many of those possessions when Arizona was getting that

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lead of nineteen where the ball wasn't moving, And then

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Three's moves hitting three. So there were a lot of

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silver linings and I think there's a lot to build

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you wonder if the first half is almost like a

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an NBA style schematic, you know, Foray, you know where

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there's a lot of ISoP and BYU you know has struggled.

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I mean, look from an efficiency standpoint, there's seventieth in

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the in the nation in the first half. They're number

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one in the nation in the second half. So my

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it's the schematics and the approach offensively that is determining

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that in the first half.

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Speaker 2: Give me your thoughts on this on this theory that

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Speaker 7: It's not a bad theory. I think if I wanted

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the poke holes in the theory, I would say, if AJ,

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you know, shot the ball better, then maybe we wouldn't

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even be having this discussion. Because AJ was inefficient and

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Rob was inefficient. Those are two performances from two of

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your three best players that you don't normally get. They're

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normally a lot better than that. Rob, in particular, he

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had been unbelievable in conference play. His scoring was up

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in conference play, and from a three point percentage perspective,

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he's the best three point percentage shooter on the team.

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So what happened to Rob against Arizona is not indicative

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of the way that he's played in league play at all.

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is just, hey, you know, to quote AJ, we just

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missed shots. But at the same time, I think.

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Speaker 2: That we're getting though, right, Matt, right.

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Speaker 7: Well, And that's what I was gonna say then, which was, Okay,

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isolation ball can work, and you have great players, but

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because they go multiple possessions without touching the basketball, not

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being involved There's a play in the first half where

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Aj had it in the right corner down by the

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rock and he was waiting for movement and there was

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no movement. And you know, was that a byproduct of

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ISO ball or was that the play? I'm who knows

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for sure, but I do think it is very clear

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from that second half and that this team has got

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to find ways to spread the ball around more. We

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saw it in the Utah game two to one assists,

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turnover ratio seventeen assists. There just wasn't quite that flow

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for the majority of the Arizona game, and I think

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it hurt him.

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Speaker 3: Matt, you mentioned some of the silver linings. What is

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the identity of this BAU men's basketball team. I mean, look,

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they have three losses.

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Speaker 2: This is a.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic team, right This is an awesome team, maybe an

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elite A team, maybe better than that.

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Speaker 2: But what's the identity of this team? Would you say?

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Speaker 7: To be honest, Ben, I don't know that there is

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an identity right now, and I think that's to come

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back to the silver lining.

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Speaker 8: I think that's what is.

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Speaker 7: So encouraging about that second half surge is maybe you

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ratchet up the pressure defensively maybe you get up tempo

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a little bit more and you spread the ball around

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and maybe shoot a few more threes. You know, you

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don't need to become reliant on the threes, and that's not.

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Speaker 8: To say you don't get Aj the ball in.

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Speaker 7: The mid range, where he's been deadly all season. But

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from game to game, I'm not sure that this team

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has the style or an identity. And in a lot

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of ways, Ben, I think that's to be expected. When

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you bring in three new starters, you bring in new

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role players, there's a lot of change. And I think

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that's something to remember with this group is Rob is

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a new point guard, and he's a vastly different point

501
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guard than Jegor was last year. And then you throw

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in AJ. You know you did not have an AJ

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in talent or style last year. And then on top

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of that, you bring in Canard mood Davis to play

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a specific role that he's.

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Speaker 8: Never played before.

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Speaker 7: I know that Kay why and the staff wasn't to

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be more free in d but at Southern Illinois he

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was more of a well balanced scorer. So I still

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think that this team needs to find that identity if

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they're going to round into a Final four. Team. The

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good news is we were having the same conversation last

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year in January. We'll see identity, what's going to happen

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Ky and the team that figured it out. But as

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of right now, I still think they are trying to

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lock in on what that identity is and hopefully yesterday

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revealed exactly what the identity can be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, It's something that I brought up early in the show.

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It's like, look, we were saying the same things about

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free throw shooting and identity in late januaryly February, and

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then somehow, some way they got back on the right track.

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They started hitting free throws down the stretch and started

523
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playing their best basketball in late February. So I feel

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like that trend, that trajectory is going to be that's

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going to occur once again this season.

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Speaker 2: You got to trust in this coaching staff.

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Speaker 7: Right Oh No, I mean this coaching staff is an

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elite coaching staff.

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Speaker 8: I thought there were several.

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Speaker 7: Moments at the end of that game that highlighted just

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how special this group is, whether it be Kevin Young

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calling timeouts at the right time to dial up plays.

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Speaker 8: To even get them in the position they were in.

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Speaker 7: And I thought too in the second half, but he decided,

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you know what, we're throwing out Boskovic, We're throwing out Postitch.

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I mean, there was a lineup at one point where

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it looked like AG was the five.

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Speaker 8: I know it's positionless.

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Speaker 7: Basketball, but it was Aj, Rob Voskovic, Coastitch, and Richie

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and you're like, man, this is a start. Contrast to

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what we saw in the first half and against Utah,

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where you had lineups with Aj Poskovich on med and.

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Speaker 8: I'm forgetting another tall dude, but they were all It.

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Speaker 7: Felt like there was four guys that were six nine

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or above and then they go small.

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Speaker 8: I thought that was a beautiful wrinkle.

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Speaker 7: In that second half. Comeback to say, you know what,

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we haven't run this group very much, but we need

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to spread the floor, we need to get up and down,

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and we need to shoot the ball. And then they

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go fifty percent from three and they have the most

552
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success they had in that game. So this coaching staff

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is elite. They're going to figure it out. And now

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it's it's really up to some of the role players

555
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to show that they can be consistent, that being can

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move build on this. Can he stay out of the

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slump and become a thirty five to forty three point shooter.

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Does coast Itch become a that you fill in may

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to maybe take some of those shots that you wanted

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Dawson Baker to.

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Speaker 8: Have earlier in the year.

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Speaker 7: If he's taking three or fourth three the game and

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hitting at a thirty five percent clup, that's a big addition.

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So I have full support and belief that this staff

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will figure it out. You've got the penal it, you've

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got the staff, and now the players just need to

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make it happen.

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Speaker 3: Matt bayam on to hear on your Utah ESPN Radio

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network one of the play by play voices for BYU

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Athletics Stockings and BYU Basketball, you mentioned coach Stick. I

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called him Alexi Coastick curry Man.

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Speaker 2: He was in fuego. Were you hoping for a heat check?

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 3: I was hoping for a heat check and he never

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touched the ball again.

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Speaker 2: Why use that?

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Speaker 3: Is that more of a player isher or a coaching

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issue in Coastick, who has the hot end, never gets

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another look within the offense.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I guess you'd have to maybe put on

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the players because because I feel like in that second

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half you know there was not enough ball to go around.

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Richie was playing his best basketball of the night. Cannard

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Davis went five to five. You can make the case

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he didn't get the ball enough. Maybe he should have

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been the recipient of the final shot on a kickout

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for a three point. Of the way he had played

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in the second even he had the whole team in

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scoring in the second half and seventeen Coastitch deserves some

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more looks. So I think it's I think it's difficult

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in some of those stases when as a team you're

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really hot, what do you do if you were Rob Wright?

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Because he still has that elite skill set to get

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to the rim. Wasn't his night, as we discussed, But yeah,

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I think there's a case where I would have liked

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to see him get a few more shots. But also

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what was Arizona doing potentially on the defensive end to

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take that away? And there was a careless turnover in

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the second half involving Coastch that lost to a possession.

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Who knows if that played into it as well. But

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regardless of how many attempts he had, the fact that

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he came in and made shots and was a positive

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contri read against the number one team in the nation.

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That's something you can build on as you go to

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Kansas on Saturday. Sprinkle in a little more coastitch. Can

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he ride that? Continue to get Moo Davis some looks

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because you need those threes. That's why I think as

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painful as it was to not get a quality look

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at the rim, and I don't want to just that

610
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is painful. There's no if fans or butts about it.

611
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Ben to not get a better look in the final shot,

612
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that hurts, But that doesn't disparage all the good and

613
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some of the answers you found in the test in

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the second.

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Speaker 3: Half, Matt, I do want to transition here a little segue.

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Are you most optimistic about basketball? The trajectory of basketball

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or football? Which one are you more optimistic about? The

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you know, and I'm talking like five years down the road,

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like you know, you're looking at like the trajectory of

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both these brands, Both of these programs they look maybe

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on equivalent pass But which one are you more more

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optimistic about in a future?

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Speaker 7: Well, I am optimistic about both. I do want to

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put that out there, but if I had to pick one,

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I am more optimistic about basketball for a couple of reasons.

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Number one, this is completely out of control of anyone

627
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at BYU, but basketball, the sport of basketball, the organization

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00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:29,119
of NCAA basketball. It is more conducive to winning because

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other teams in a BYU position have been able to

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make that. I don't want to call it a turnaround,

631
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because bo has been good for a long time, but

632
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you can kind of spring up out of nowhere and

633
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become a power. We saw it with Gonzaga. We've seen

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it with Butler. I know they've kind of fallen backed off,

635
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but there was a period of time where Butler was

636
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going to the Final Four. The way that college basketball

637
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has been put into a framework makes it easier to

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compete because there is a net rating system that is

639
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equal to all. It can benefit the top conference and

640
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it can benefit a mid major conference. The net ranking

641
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system Quad one, Quad two, Quad three, Quad four, it

642
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helps us contextualize a lot of these games. College football

643
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doesn't have that. And then on top of that, you

644
00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:25,640
have a fair tournament where there is equal opportunity for

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everyone to qualify. And I love in college basketball how

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you're not penalized for a close loss, like what's happened

647
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last night. In a lot of ways, that might be

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a positive that you went toe to toe and had

649
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a comeback against an Arizona team. So the framework of

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college basketball allows for a BYU to bring in a

651
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Kevin Young and just vault to the top, whereas college

652
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football you can put all the money in the world

653
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in there, the rosters are so much bigger that doesn't

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guarantee chemistry. And then on top of that, you've got

655
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a system with the committee that is very clearly biased

656
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and unfair in the way that they evaluate teams, even

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amongst the power conferences. The fact that BYU was never

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even considered this past season is a travesty and a crime,

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because they deserve to be in the conversation. Ben. You

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can make the case that they didn't have the resume

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to be in front of Miami or Notre Dame, which

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I believe is ridiculous, But they weren't even in the conversation.

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Their practic was taken off the show on ESPN's show.

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For Evin's sakes, what else can you do. There's already prognostications,

665
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to use one of your favorite words, Ben, for next

666
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season that if BOU doesn't go undefeated and win the

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Big Twelve, they won't be considered Are you kidding me?

668
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That is to me, that's ridiculous. So that just makes

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it incredibly hard. Look a lot of the football program,

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they're doing all the right things. The player attention is great,

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their recruiting is great, but the system itself doesn't allow

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for a BYU to get in a in a fair

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way that makes sense. And so for that reason alone,

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I have to give the nod to the basketball program.

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Speaker 3: What's your theory on why the Big twelve isn't getting

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the respect that it could deserve?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: You know, some people feel, you know, both the ACC

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and the Big Twelve are kind of on equal footing.

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Look at what Miami did though this year, and maybe

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that's swaying in their direction. But what's your theory on

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on why maybe the Big twelve is on the outside

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looking in a little bit as far as respect preseason

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rankings is concerned, et cetera.

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Speaker 8: It's very simple. Then they are missing.

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Speaker 7: Texas and Oklahoma. And even though Texas and Oklahoma they've

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had some highs of late, but they have not been

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perennial powers in terms of postseason success for quite some time.

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Doesn't matter because that's this sport, college football. I love it,

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but it's so frustrating. They value the name, the logo,

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and the brand cachet, which ironically, Boy has all those

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things and you have. They're left out way more than quality.

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The ACC, in my opinion, was far superior than the

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Big Twelve this past season, even though Miami made a

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nice run and went to the National Championship Game. From

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top to bottom, there was teams in that league that

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were way down.

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Speaker 8: I mean there's teams that have been good in.

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Speaker 7: That league that are really bad. Virginia Tech historically has

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been a good football program. They stink. I don't know

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if they could beat, you know, some of the lower

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teams in the Big Twelve. They stink. Florida State, they

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had that little glow up for a minute. They're back

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down and trying to figure it out. But the difference

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is the ACC does have those names. You know, Miami,

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the U.

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Speaker 8: Florida State a huge name in college football.

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Speaker 7: Clemson of recent years has turned into a really nice program.

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It doesn't matter if they are bad. Those are still

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names that you know and love and that you want

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to be. At the top of college football. The Big

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twelve unfortunately does not have any names like that, and

713
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I think they're being penalized for that. Even though you

714
00:36:18,559 --> 00:36:21,519
look at let's say, teams ten to one in the

715
00:36:21,519 --> 00:36:23,679
Big twelve, I think that they could go toe to toe,

716
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,599
if not beat their counterparts in the ACC. But you

717
00:36:26,599 --> 00:36:28,719
don't look at a BIU or a Texas Tech and

718
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,199
consider them on the same historical plane as the Florida

719
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,119
State in Miami. I think it's unfair. To my previous point,

720
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,000
I hate it about college football, even though I love

721
00:36:38,039 --> 00:36:40,639
the sports so much and every Saturday is incredible. In

722
00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:44,320
college football, it's not judged fairly and it's not judge

723
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,480
off merit, and to me, it is simply because you

724
00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:51,280
do not have a historical quote unquote blue blood at

725
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,599
the top to promote.

726
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,119
Speaker 3: If you could have one or two things, expansion of

727
00:36:56,199 --> 00:37:01,119
the playoff right with the subjective human commies still making

728
00:37:01,159 --> 00:37:05,119
the decision. Let's say it's sixteen teams that they expand

729
00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:10,440
to or having a you know, you can still have

730
00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:14,760
the committee, but it's weighted equally with an algorithm, so

731
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,280
you get a metric. Maybe it's sp plus combined with

732
00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:25,519
AP combined with Sagarin combined with you know whatever metric

733
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,920
right that you're going to utilize to give the objective

734
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,280
data point, but you also have the human elements still

735
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,480
in place with the committee. They weighted equally, but you

736
00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:36,599
only get twelve team, Which one would you rather happen?

737
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 7: Why it's a no brainer, Ben, And then it's an

738
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,760
expanded playoff because these corrupt is not the right word,

739
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,400
that's probably too harsh of a word. But these committee members,

740
00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:52,800
these high ranking officials that determine college football, they'll just

741
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,719
move the goalpost.

742
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 6: Ben.

743
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,119
Speaker 7: We've already seen it, like the fact that there are

744
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,800
recruiting rankings that factor into this, and you just say, oh,

745
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:03,960
Michigan signs this kid from Utah, let's elevate into five star.

746
00:38:04,119 --> 00:38:08,360
Oh buyu, you bring in Walker Lyons and four star.

747
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,440
They'll just move the goalpost. We've seen it in the

748
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,400
recruiting rankings for years with BYU and they'll just do

749
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,440
that with algorithms. So to me, the only thing that's

750
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,039
fair is to expand this playoffs as far out as

751
00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:24,480
you can to include as many teams. And that's why

752
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,159
this doesn't happen in college basketball, because when you have

753
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,480
sixty plus team, sixty eight teams, in the field. You

754
00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:34,400
can't really have a gripe if you're team sixty nine,

755
00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:39,519
because there's everyone that is truly deserving is getting into

756
00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:42,519
the NCAA tournament. If you want to do twelve and

757
00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:45,039
have all these metrics, well, they'll just find ways to

758
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:48,119
have the metrics benefit the schools.

759
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 8: That they want to be in.

760
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 7: So, to me, the only way to solve some of

761
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,400
that is to actually take significantly less power away from

762
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,880
the committee. I hate them even saying this, Ben, but

763
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,760
maybe you give two automatic qualifiers to every conference and

764
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,280
then a few more than the others to guarantee that

765
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,840
the team's playing in the championship. Get in to me

766
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,239
that that's the only way to get some level of

767
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,639
fairness in college football, because whether it be the BCS

768
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,599
rankings or the A voter twos of the National Championship,

769
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,400
there's been a history in this sport of moving the

770
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,920
gold posts to benefit the blue bloods, and that would

771
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,800
just continue if you had a twelve team playoff. But

772
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,880
you found a way to put in these algorithms, and

773
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,360
it wouldn't result in what we want, and what we

774
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,000
want is fairness and an opportunity for teams that deserve

775
00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:38,320
it to compete for a national championship.

776
00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does.

777
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,119
Speaker 3: It make you optimistic though the trajectory of college football.

778
00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:49,599
Knowing that Indiana won the Natty, that Miami was the

779
00:39:49,679 --> 00:39:50,480
runner up.

780
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 7: Yes, that does make it optimistic for sure. Because Indiana,

781
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,840
it's well documented how poor they were, and you know,

782
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,000
they built a culture, and they mined the transfer portal,

783
00:40:05,039 --> 00:40:08,079
and they built a team and I had a great

784
00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:10,800
chemistry and they.

785
00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 8: Did everything the right way.

786
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 7: So that is an optimistic piece of it. But what's

787
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,960
gonna happen to the Indianas of the world when they've

788
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,440
got Biu's resume and they get blown out in a

789
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,000
conference championship game and they're ten and two. Are they

790
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,000
gonna get the benefit of the doubt? Or is a

791
00:40:26,039 --> 00:40:30,920
blue blood of an equal record gonna get put in

792
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,880
front of them because they're gonna draw maybe a better

793
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,119
TV rating, or they're gonna.

794
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 8: Have a little sexy year of a matchup.

795
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:38,639
Speaker 7: And you put the logos on the screen.

796
00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:41,159
Speaker 8: That wasn't something that we can answer this year.

797
00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 7: Because Indiana won every game, so they were never in

798
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,400
that position. But I'd be very curious to see if

799
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,360
they were ten and two and went to the big

800
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,719
ten and got hammered. If they would still get in

801
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,159
when you've got another ten and two Notre Dame behind

802
00:40:54,159 --> 00:40:56,039
them one spot, what do you think would happen?

803
00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:56,199
Speaker 1: Then?

804
00:40:56,559 --> 00:40:59,159
Speaker 7: I think Notre Dame would get in in that scenario, right.

805
00:40:59,159 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, Unfortunately the quitting Irish. Uh, they just have

806
00:41:04,119 --> 00:41:07,400
more cachet, They have more they have more power. You know,

807
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,320
people were asking me like, how is it that they

808
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,000
backdoored that deal? How is it that they got that

809
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:15,360
deal done with the committee? If anyone asked you that question.

810
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,039
We were ideating a little bit on how they got

811
00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:23,880
the exemption, the the the you know, the ticket punched

812
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,840
essentially if they're in the top twelve.

813
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,159
Speaker 2: Do you have a theory on.

814
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,159
Speaker 7: A great question? I mean, I don't think you have

815
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:35,000
to theorize much. I just think that when you know, look,

816
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,320
at the end of the day, this playoff is a

817
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,159
TV show. There is an entity that owns the college

818
00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:43,960
football Playoffs, and it is a for profit event. And

819
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:46,760
would you have rather had if you were running that

820
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,679
tournament Notre Dame or James Madison.

821
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, James Madison would have been bounced because contractually they

822
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,360
have to. They had to at the time put in

823
00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:04,920
what was it, the top six conference highest rate of

824
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,159
conference champions at that time, so like they were.

825
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 2: Obligating at the time.

826
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,119
Speaker 7: Yeah, at the time, there was nothing that can be done.

827
00:42:12,159 --> 00:42:14,199
But that's no longer the current circumstance.

828
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, if that we're going to play.

829
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,119
Speaker 7: If that were to play out now, Notre Dame's getting in.

830
00:42:18,159 --> 00:42:19,880
And I don't think you have to look any further

831
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,039
than the entity putting on the tournament saying how do

832
00:42:24,119 --> 00:42:26,159
we get the most how do we get the most

833
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:32,840
ROI and unfortunately James Madison, they competed against Oregon, but

834
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,119
it wasn't that close of a game. I hate to

835
00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:37,760
admit this, but Notre Dame would have put up a

836
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,360
better fight against Oregon then James Madison. And so I

837
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,519
think the thinking is, how do we make the best

838
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,880
product possible for a tournament? And I'd be shocked if

839
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,719
Notre Dame even had to fight that hard to get

840
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,639
that exemption. You want them in if they're in the

841
00:42:53,639 --> 00:42:55,440
top twelve because they're a huge draw.

842
00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say this.

843
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,079
Speaker 3: You know, let's turn it back to attitude here BYU

844
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:03,519
football is in the Glory era, right, this is.

845
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: In you know what I mean? It's crazy to me.

846
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 3: I was looking at the winnings eras in BYU football history,

847
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:16,239
and you look at seventy nine to eighty five glory days, Right.

848
00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:17,079
Speaker 2: That's the true glory.

849
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 6: Yeah.

850
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,079
Speaker 3: But the second winning era up until you know, the

851
00:43:21,159 --> 00:43:25,639
current one was essentially six to twenty eleven. You had

852
00:43:25,679 --> 00:43:30,559
double digit wins every season minus one. Kind of interesting, like,

853
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,079
you know, kind of in the middle of it all

854
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,000
in from six to twenty eleven. And now you have

855
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,800
from twenty twenty to two thousand and twenty five, you

856
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,239
got eleven wins, you have ten wins, you have eight,

857
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,480
you got five, you got eleven, you got twelve.

858
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:46,519
Speaker 2: These are the glory days once again.

859
00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:49,639
Speaker 3: Like it's pretty crazy to see, you know, and it

860
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,719
kind of realized that you're a part of the glory

861
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:52,519
days once again.

862
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 7: Right, you're absolutely right, Like this is a this is

863
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,320
an amazing era of THEU football To to retain Kilane,

864
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:04,800
to retain these players, to retain a lot of the staff,

865
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,320
there is so much to be excited about. And they

866
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,960
could very well win the Big twelve next year. And

867
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,079
if they go to the playoffs, and we'll celebrate and

868
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:18,519
we'll root on the team, and it will be phenomenal.

869
00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:22,159
It's just I think it's just unfortunate that it feels

870
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:24,880
like that's what it has to be for Rea football

871
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,199
and for a lot of other schools. But to bring

872
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,440
it back to gratitude to your point, then the fact

873
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,760
that they're in this position so quickly in the Big

874
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,280
Twelve is a testament to Kilane, It's a testament to

875
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,719
President Reese. It's a testament to what Tom Holmo did

876
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,760
and now Brian Santiago that they have been able to

877
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:48,559
galvanize this alumni base to support this program led by

878
00:44:48,639 --> 00:44:49,760
Klani and that.

879
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:54,039
Speaker 8: You're in a place, you're in position to be in position,

880
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:55,199
and there's a lot.

881
00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:58,679
Speaker 7: Of schools that you're not in position to compete to

882
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,199
even have an opportunity, and that is a beautiful, beautiful thing.

883
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,719
So I love Boa football and I think I think

884
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,880
the sky's the limit for Bou football. But it is

885
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,440
gonna require a Big Twelve championship to break into the

886
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:12,400
playoff ultimately.

887
00:45:13,639 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 3: Matt Baya, Monte Ladies and gentlemen, Matt, best way to

888
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,679
support you, what you do, how you do it.

889
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,559
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us today for a Cougar beat.

890
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, listen in to football season's over, but now basketball

891
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,280
pre game listen to Greg marked around.

892
00:45:28,039 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 8: La Cole and then pretty soon I'll.

893
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,039
Speaker 7: Be heading out with with men's baseball and doing play

894
00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:34,559
by play for BOU Radio. So that's coming up in

895
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,559
mid February. So if you like baseball, tune on in

896
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,320
and I'll take you along in non conference play.

897
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 2: Were you I imagine you were at the first Pitch dinner?

898
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,280
What would happened there? Give us a little synopsis.

899
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, there was just great recognition of former Cougars that

900
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,480
have made it to the big leagues. Schneam in with

901
00:45:54,599 --> 00:46:01,599
the with the Guardians. His story is incredible and it's

902
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:06,719
truly actually remarkable that Coach Pratt and this baseball staff

903
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,920
had so many players during his time as an assistant

904
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,719
coach and a head coach getting them in a position

905
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,960
to play professional baseball. So I think just a celebration

906
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:20,519
of what the program has done to put guys into

907
00:46:20,559 --> 00:46:21,079
the league.

908
00:46:21,159 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 8: And look, it's.

909
00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:25,039
Speaker 7: Gonna be a really exciting team. They returned so much

910
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:25,920
offensive production.

911
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,119
Speaker 8: They made a late push.

912
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,079
Speaker 7: Last year to get into the Big twelve Championship down

913
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:33,320
in Arlington, Texas. I know they didn't make it the

914
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,119
championship game data. They had a nice little run there

915
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,760
as the last team in to the tournament, and you

916
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,360
bring back so much production. They have a new pitching coach,

917
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,440
probably need to see some improvement there on the mound,

918
00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:48,840
but there's a lot of excitement for this baseball season

919
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,639
that they can build upon what they did to finish

920
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:52,400
off last year.

921
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: Love to break down, Matt Baia, Monte, Ladies and Gentlem.

922
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,679
Make sure you're following him on X and listening to

923
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,639
him on BYU Radio. Thanks so much, Matt. We'll catch

924
00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:01,239
up with again.

925
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 7: Soon, brother, Take care, guys. Thank you there go.

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