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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? Come on, let's have a talk. This

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<v Speaker 1>is one of my favorite programs that I've been thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about and waiting to unveil to you. This is another

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<v Speaker 1>series in the Biohacking Basics program, and today we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about fasting and fasting. Fasting has been known about for

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<v Speaker 1>centuries and you can go back to the Greeks and

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<v Speaker 1>even the Egyptians write about the benefits of fasting. That's

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<v Speaker 1>abstaining from eating. And what is important about this is

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<v Speaker 1>that when we don't eat, we're not starving ourselves. We're

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<v Speaker 1>caught stopping from consuming food. We're basically allowing the body

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<v Speaker 1>to quiet itself, the digestive system to stop digesting foods,

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<v Speaker 1>and in doing so, there's a number of processes to

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<v Speaker 1>go to work that we will be discussing today now.

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<v Speaker 1>Intermitute fasting has been all the rage for well almost

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<v Speaker 1>ten years now, and this is where you take a

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<v Speaker 1>day and you don't eat. You don't eat from say

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<v Speaker 1>six o'clock the night before until perhaps nine am the

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<v Speaker 1>next day, fifteen sixteen hours of non eating. That's very beneficial.

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<v Speaker 1>But what we're going to talk about today is much

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<v Speaker 1>more lengthied fast of two to five in some cases

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks of just drinking fluids. In the case we're

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<v Speaker 1>discussing today, just water fast. I do a quarterly fast

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<v Speaker 1>every change of season winter, fall, summer, autumn. I try

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<v Speaker 1>to do between three and five days, depending on what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of work my work week is, because when you're

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<v Speaker 1>working and you have a lot of mental stress, it

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<v Speaker 1>can really knock you down because your body is basically

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<v Speaker 1>shutting off and releasing a bunch of toxins. So but

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<v Speaker 1>when you're doing a longer fast, you're allowing your digestive

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<v Speaker 1>system and your body as a whole to sweep out

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<v Speaker 1>various disease processes, various inflammation processes, and inflammation is a

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<v Speaker 1>real problem for most of us right now because when

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<v Speaker 1>you're internal organs and your brain has inflammation, it can

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<v Speaker 1>cause havoc on your body. In fact, they have discovered

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<v Speaker 1>people who have dementia have chronic inflammation of the brain,

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<v Speaker 1>and this also goes for various organs. If your organs

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<v Speaker 1>are dealing with inflammation, this is a real issue. So

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<v Speaker 1>short flat fast are fine, they're great for maintenance. But

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<v Speaker 1>again I try to do four lengthy fast during times

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<v Speaker 1>of the year, usually the changing of the seasons, the

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<v Speaker 1>solstice or the equinoxes, where it's a seasonal change, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's surprising when you do them during that time of year,

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<v Speaker 1>they actually feel a little bit better. But I'll tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>when you've been abusing yourself, eating a lot of sugars,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of carbohydrates, a lot of gluten, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a challenge for the body to sweep it out.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll tell you when you do a lengthy fast

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<v Speaker 1>of a few days or more, I think the max

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten now is five days without eating. It is

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful the results, and you're stopping the various disease processes.

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<v Speaker 1>You are in some ways you're writing the ship, You're

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<v Speaker 1>helping your digestion, you're helping your elimination. And I've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing fast for probably, I want to say, thirty plus years,

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<v Speaker 1>and I try to do like I said, I try

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<v Speaker 1>to do one every seasonal change. And I'm starting to

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<v Speaker 1>get back to intermitute fasting now. My guest today is

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<v Speaker 1>an expert and he runs a clinic here in northern California,

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<v Speaker 1>and the the book we're going to talk about today

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<v Speaker 1>is called can Fasting Save Your Life? And he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to actually talk about the twenty four thousand people who

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<v Speaker 1>have come through his clinic and the various issues that

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<v Speaker 1>people have been dealing with, everything from chronic pain, arthritis,

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<v Speaker 1>to ms and in some cases he is gonna say this,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's pretty shocking people that have various forms of cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you can apply a self healing technique that

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<v Speaker 1>begins to tear down the disease process known as cancer,

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about miracle healing. And we don't hear enough

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<v Speaker 1>about long term fasting because it's not comfortable. It's uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>And the beauty of this clinic we're talking about today

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<v Speaker 1>is that it's a supervised fast and he'll also present

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<v Speaker 1>a series of suggestions for those who don't live in

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<v Speaker 1>California as to where you can go and have these

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<v Speaker 1>I again, have been following fasting for many, many years,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I was younger, fasting was a rage of

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the Hippie movement, the New Age movement,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were sanitariums in various parts of California. If

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<v Speaker 1>you go back to the turn of the Central Tree,

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<v Speaker 1>there were actual healing sanitariums that suggested obstination of food,

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<v Speaker 1>not eating, just drinking fluids. Now when I fast, I

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<v Speaker 1>have coffee, tea and water for five days or more.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also breaking the fast, it's called refeeding is

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<v Speaker 1>critically important. You don't want to eat any cooked food,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to have meats, you want to have

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<v Speaker 1>raw foods if you can, no breads, no gluten. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to slowly re enter the feeding phase without stressing

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<v Speaker 1>out the body. So the refeeding post fasting is just

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<v Speaker 1>as important as the actual fast itself. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be amazed at our guests today. And

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<v Speaker 1>this biohacking basic program is really really important because it's

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<v Speaker 1>again not discussed a great deal. It's very very simple

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<v Speaker 1>to do because you're just substaining from food and the

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<v Speaker 1>benefits are just amazing. And one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>we don't hear enough about is how fasting can remove

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<v Speaker 1>what they call these sinescent cells, otherwise known as zombie cells.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you have an accumulation of these zombie cells,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what the beginning of illnesses and your body

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<v Speaker 1>can't get rid of them, so they just store these

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<v Speaker 1>zombie cells and you want to use fasting and other

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<v Speaker 1>nutritional programs to get rid of sinescent cells, because that

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<v Speaker 1>is the beginning again, it's the beginning of disease. So

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<v Speaker 1>today's biohacking Basics program is the miracle of fasting. And

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<v Speaker 1>my guest is doctor Alan Goldhammer. We're featuring an incredible

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to visit one of the real enigmas of the

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<v Speaker 1>ancient world, and that is Easter Island in the Pacific Ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a new tour that we're doing. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>like this will probably be the only chance we get

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<v Speaker 1>to go. But we're lucky because doctor Edwin Barnhardt, our

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<v Speaker 1>host and our tour leader, has been surveying this island

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<v Speaker 1>for a number of years and has some really amazing

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<v Speaker 1>insights on just how detailed and how complicated and how

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<v Speaker 1>mysterious this island is going to be. March fifteenth through

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<v Speaker 1>twenty third, I wanted to ask just a brief question

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<v Speaker 1>or two because I obviously have never been there. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really excited to be a part of this. It's a highlight.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about the moai. There's a number of them, aren't there.

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<v Speaker 2>There are so many moai there. It's out you see

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<v Speaker 2>from coffee table books that there's lines of them, but

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<v Speaker 2>in point of fact, there's over one thousand moi and

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<v Speaker 2>they're spread all over the island. They're where ancient villages

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<v Speaker 2>used to be. So we're going to go visit a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of those. There's also the quarry. There's one quarry

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<v Speaker 2>where almost all of them were made, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of them are still half made lying in the quarry.

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<v Speaker 2>That thing is just a sight to see how.

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<v Speaker 1>Grew up briefly, and I didn't realize they have an

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<v Speaker 1>observatory there. Is it a planetarium or is it more

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<v Speaker 1>of a setup for evening sites.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a planetarium. It's a passion project by a man

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<v Speaker 2>named EDMUNDO Edwards who's been studying the archaeo astronomy of

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<v Speaker 2>the island for his entire life, I think almost fifty

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<v Speaker 2>years now. He knows more than anyone and he put

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<v Speaker 2>together this planetarium to share this lifetime of knowledge with

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<v Speaker 2>the visitors that come to the place.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic. So March fifteenth to the twenty third, that is

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<v Speaker 1>a week, and it sounds like we've really packed a

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<v Speaker 1>lot in during those seven days, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you, For an island that's only twelve miles across.

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<v Speaker 2>There is an endless amount of things to see there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to it. Fantastic, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>For more information, go to Earth Ancients dot com forward

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<v Speaker 1>slash tours, look for the photo of Ed standing next

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<v Speaker 1>to one of the big Mai sculptures and registered as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as you can. Again go to Earthnchients dot com

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<v Speaker 1>forward slash tours. Thanks Ed, Thank you, Cliff. As we

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<v Speaker 1>continue our series biohic Hacking Basics, we're talking on fasting

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<v Speaker 1>this week, a subject that I've been very interested in

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<v Speaker 1>for probably thirty or more years, simply because I realized

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<v Speaker 1>at a younger age that when you stop eating, the

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<v Speaker 1>body goes to work and becomes a what they consider

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a broom, sweeping away problems and helping the

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<v Speaker 1>body heal. And my guest today is doctor Alan Goldhammer.

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<v Speaker 1>He has just released a new book called Can Fasting

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<v Speaker 1>Save Your Life? What a great title, and he is

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<v Speaker 1>the director of the True North Health Clinicians in Santa

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<v Speaker 1>Rosas just north of me, and would you believe he's

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<v Speaker 1>been doing this for four four decades, so it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're going to talk about this new book and

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<v Speaker 1>the benefits and the power of fasting. So Alan, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Destiny. Great to have you on the program.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 3>your own journey, your own perhaps you know understanding of

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<v Speaker 3>the benefits of fasting and how you developed this clinic.

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<v Speaker 4>I started very young. I was a teenager, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>kind of being on the spectrum, got interested in something

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<v Speaker 4>and never lost focus. It happened to be fasting and diet.

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<v Speaker 4>I read a book by Shelton who said that health

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<v Speaker 4>had causes, just like disease had causes. So if you

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to be healthy, you had to do the things

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<v Speaker 4>that cause health, and that was diet, sleep, exercise, and fasting,

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<v Speaker 4>and so that kind of got me interested. I was

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<v Speaker 4>motivated also by my uncle, who was a medical doctor,

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<v Speaker 4>and he said that there was nothing worse than doctors

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<v Speaker 4>that did alternative medicine. And when I mentioned I was

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<v Speaker 4>interested in going into alternate medicine, he said I would

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<v Speaker 4>not go into alternate medicine, that nobody in our family

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<v Speaker 4>would go to a doctor like that, let alone become

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<v Speaker 4>a doctor like that, and that better I should be

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<v Speaker 4>a communist spy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>He was really upset. I remember screaming at me, and

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<v Speaker 4>my dad took me aside after he left me said, son,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know anything about this alternative business, but anything

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<v Speaker 4>that makes him that angry and mad, it can't be bad.

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<v Speaker 4>So you stick to your guns in good luck.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, I had later became one of my

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<v Speaker 4>first patients when I got out of school. He was

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<v Speaker 4>having transing Nashimi attacks that had gotten into serious trouble.

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<v Speaker 4>Ended up fasting for twenty six days, made a remarkable

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<v Speaker 4>recovery twenty years later, helped us our edit our first book,

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<v Speaker 4>which was The Pleasure Trap, and then you know, ended

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<v Speaker 4>up doing very well.

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<v Speaker 1>So so as a young person, you're into it. So

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<v Speaker 1>are you saying, as a teenager you are actually doing

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of day fast.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I not only did some occasional fasting, but more importantly,

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<v Speaker 4>I adopted a whole plant food SOS free diet, so

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I began eating healthily and really could experience

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<v Speaker 4>the changes that that happened. And I did some periodic

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<v Speaker 4>fasting as well. I'd have to see the diet, the sleep,

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<v Speaker 4>the exercise seemed to be the most critical components in

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<v Speaker 4>long term. Hell. Fasting is a great tool, as we'll

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<v Speaker 4>talk about today, but without the diet's, sleep and exercise,

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<v Speaker 4>fasting alone is not going to get you where you

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<v Speaker 1>Go, right. It's a wellness therapy that you need to follow.

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<v Speaker 1>So talk a little bit about your experience as a

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<v Speaker 1>young faster and how that carried it so forward into

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Well, I went to Chiropractic College at Western States

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<v Speaker 4>Burton who was the world's leading authority in the use

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<v Speaker 4>of fasting and human beings. So when I came back

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<v Speaker 4>from Australia in nineteen eighty four, my wife, doctor Jennifer Morano,

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<v Speaker 4>and I open the True North Health Center and we've

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<v Speaker 4>five thousand patients come through and do medically supervised water

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<v Speaker 4>only fasten and as you said, we just came out

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<v Speaker 4>with a book. Recently, we've published twenty two papers in

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<v Speaker 4>the scientific literature case supports and studies, and this book

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<v Speaker 4>is largely built on our own original research that deals

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<v Speaker 4>but also to give people's doctors an understanding that fast

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's an important book. It's certainly the first

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<v Speaker 4>how fasting worked.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a good primer for those who are interested

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<v Speaker 1>in learning about fasting in the different types of fasting

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<v Speaker 1>that are available. Let's talk briefly historically what we know

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<v Speaker 1>about fasting. You write in the in your book that

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese were fasting as far back as twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years ago. Who else of our ancestors were documenting

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<v Speaker 1>the results of their fasting? I think you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Fasting itself, when you think about it, is what's called

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<v Speaker 4>a biological adaptation. Every single human being that couldn't fast died,

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<v Speaker 4>and what's fasting is essentially the conversion of our largest

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<v Speaker 4>to burning fat. That's essentially what fasting comes down to,

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<v Speaker 4>the brain changes fuels. If your brain kept burning glucose,

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<v Speaker 4>enter starvation. Human being, because of fasting, can go seventy

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<v Speaker 4>days or more before entering starvation. That's why you'll never

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<v Speaker 4>see chimps wandering away from the tropics, because they don't

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<v Speaker 4>constant source of redla available food. Human beings wandered away

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<v Speaker 4>from the tropics, and everybody that couldn't convert their bulboustereronal

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<v Speaker 4>bringing a different fuel dyed. That's what a biological adaptation means.

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<v Speaker 4>That was so critical. All the ones that didn't have

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<v Speaker 4>around the world right now of almost what eight billion people,

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<v Speaker 4>all of which if you take food away, they go

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<v Speaker 4>into ketosis and begin this fasting process. So all we've

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<v Speaker 4>done is taken this very ancient biological adaptation and applied

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<v Speaker 4>it in a very unusual situation that never occurred before,

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<v Speaker 4>which is where people had consistent dietary excess. In the

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<v Speaker 4>old days, there was no cardiovascid disease, there was no diabetes,

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<v Speaker 4>there was very little of these chronic the general diseases.

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<v Speaker 4>As a consequence, we they used to be called the

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<v Speaker 4>diseases of kings because it was only the wealthy, elite

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<v Speaker 4>kings that could get the gout and get these conditions

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<v Speaker 4>that were right, and now they're abiquitous because we got

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<v Speaker 4>ultra processed foods. Seventy percent of calories come from multiprocessed

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<v Speaker 4>foods now, and so people are getting fat. And when

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<v Speaker 4>you get fat, you get visceral fat. And the visceral

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<v Speaker 4>fat is pro It acts like a tumor, it's hyper metabolic,

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<v Speaker 4>it gives off inflammatory products. So if you have extra

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<v Speaker 4>average is going to be visceral fat. The fat that

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<v Speaker 4>accumulates are on the organs that it's like having a

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<v Speaker 4>two pound tumor in your abdomen. And so when you

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<v Speaker 4>the body not only gets rid of fat, but it

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<v Speaker 4>preferentially mobilizes visceral fat. So if you go on to

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<v Speaker 4>which you would say in two week fast, you'll not

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<v Speaker 4>lose just ten percent of your tumor, but possibly fifty

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<v Speaker 4>or one hundred percent of your tumor. For example, in

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<v Speaker 4>a study we did on fasting and body composition using

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<v Speaker 4>a dex scanner, these people fasted an average of about

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<v Speaker 4>two weeks. They lost ten percent of their body fat,

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<v Speaker 4>twenty percent of their total or ten percent of their

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<v Speaker 4>body weight, twenty percent of their total fat, and forty

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<v Speaker 4>percent of their visceral fat, only six percent of lean tissue,

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<v Speaker 4>and that was fully recovered at six week follow up,

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<v Speaker 4>and the fat loss continues. So this is the way

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<v Speaker 4>of giving the body a chance to reformulate its body composition.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you suggesting that our ancestors would fast periodically out

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<v Speaker 1>of necessity or that it was just something they did seasonally.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it was always by choice. Spring came late, there

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<v Speaker 4>was nothing to eat, they would fast, and those that

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't fast died. It would never do it by choice,

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<v Speaker 4>it was always by force. But the reality is spring

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<v Speaker 4>comes late, and we evolved in an environment of scarcity.

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<v Speaker 4>Most people didn't live to reproduce. Most people died from

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<v Speaker 4>starvation and predation, and it was a tough world. The

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<v Speaker 4>people that survived were the ones that could store enough

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<v Speaker 4>fat to survive those periods of deprivation. And so you

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<v Speaker 4>know today, if you get fat easily, that's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 4>a bad thing. Biologically, that means you have good plummet

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<v Speaker 4>you absorb what you eat. The problem is, up till

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<v Speaker 4>two hundred year years ago, these mechanisms were great because

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<v Speaker 4>people rarely got too much to eat because it was

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<v Speaker 4>so difficult just getting enough. But since the Industrial Revolution,

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<v Speaker 4>we began to process foods, and now if you have

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<v Speaker 4>good biological genes, the problem is in the modern worlds,

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<v Speaker 4>you're screwed because if you eat those highly process foods,

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna get fat. If you get fat, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>get viceral fat, and it's gonna produce inflammation, and then

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna get heart disease, diabetes cancer, not immune disease. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>what's interesting is those diseases are treated as if they're unrelated,

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<v Speaker 4>independent conditions. You have to go to different kinds of

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<v Speaker 4>doctors even to be diagnosed with those different diseases. But

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<v Speaker 4>they have something in common. They're all associated with the

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<v Speaker 4>inflammation that's coming from excess visceral fat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't want to slam allopathy too hard today,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're gonna come up a lot. Currently in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, it's a Western culture. Allopathic medicine is the

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<v Speaker 1>dominant treatment of wellness. And they don't even understand fasting

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<v Speaker 1>you're diagnosed and you're giving a medicine.

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<v Speaker 4>What they do understand is disease though, and they will

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<v Speaker 4>tell you if you go to a doctor today and

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<v Speaker 4>you say have high blood pressure or diabetes, they will

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<v Speaker 4>tell you, listen, you take these drugs, and I promise

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<v Speaker 4>you you'll never get well. You'll be sick forever, and

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<v Speaker 4>you'll be on the drugs the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 4>So they will honestly tell you that what they're doing

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<v Speaker 4>for you has nothing to do with you getting well.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. They won't say that, but or they will.

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<v Speaker 4>They will tell you you'll be on these drugs for

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<v Speaker 4>how long? Two weeks, two months? No, they'll tell you you'll

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<v Speaker 4>be on these drugs the rest of your life. Why

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<v Speaker 4>because you'll never recover. If you're a drug addict and

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<v Speaker 4>you go to the impatient program for thirty days. Say

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<v Speaker 4>be back to using heroin in a year. If you're

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<v Speaker 4>thirty days and ninety visits in ninety days, to a

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<v Speaker 4>twelve step program, and you have family support, there's an

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<v Speaker 4>eighty three percent chance you'll be drinking within a year.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're overweight and you want to lose five percent

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<v Speaker 4>of your body weight, there's a ninety five percent chance

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<v Speaker 4>if you follow your doctor's advice, you will be have

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<v Speaker 4>regained your obesity within a year. There's only a five

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<v Speaker 4>percent chance that you'll lose your weight and keep it off.

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<v Speaker 4>And if your BMI is over forty, there's a ninety

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<v Speaker 4>nine percent chance you will not lose that weight and

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<v Speaker 4>develop a healthy weight ever, because treating a weight loss

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<v Speaker 4>is less successful than treating drug addiction. Because at least

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<v Speaker 4>with drug addicts, we tell them the truth. They have

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<v Speaker 4>to stop drinking completely. What we tell overweight people is

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<v Speaker 4>eat less and it doesn't work very well. Or change

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<v Speaker 4>the color of your meat from red to white, or

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<v Speaker 4>put your food on a smaller plate and chop your

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<v Speaker 4>food and put your fork down between each bite and

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<v Speaker 4>you won't be overweight anymore. We lie to them instead

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<v Speaker 4>of saying you're overweight because you're fooling the tiding mechanisms

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<v Speaker 4>you will bring with chemicals called salt oil and sugar.

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<v Speaker 4>If you don't remove the SOS, it's very difficult to

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<v Speaker 4>remove the weight loss. So what we advocate is a

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<v Speaker 4>whole plant food diet that's SOS free. SOS, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>is the international symbol of danger, but it also stands

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<v Speaker 4>for the chemicals we put in our food that fool

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<v Speaker 4>Now those chemicals are salt, oil and sugar.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to remind our listeners that a document

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<v Speaker 1>just came out, a worldwide study that showed the America,

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, is the tenth worst country for healthcare

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<v Speaker 1>among the industrial nations. That's the last on the list.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not that's not a good thing to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>given the multi trillions of dollars that we spend on

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<v Speaker 4>But that's because we spend our money treating the leading

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<v Speaker 4>cause of depth, which are hard tosease, cancer, diabetes, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 4>instead of treating the actual causes of death. The reason

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<v Speaker 4>people get heart disease, cancer and diabetes, which is a

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<v Speaker 4>high fat, high protein diet, and smoking and alcohol consumption.

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<v Speaker 4>If we focused on treating the actual causes of disease drinking, smoking,

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<v Speaker 4>and eating a poor diet rather than waiting until people

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<v Speaker 4>develop diseases and then ineffectively treating them with drugs and

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<v Speaker 4>stents and bypass procedures, we might be able to get

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<v Speaker 4>more bang for our buck.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it has to do with the education. When

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<v Speaker 1>you say alan, I mean we're talking about physicians that

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<v Speaker 1>are graduating that get maybe one class of nutrition and

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<v Speaker 1>everything else is pharmacology.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's because medicine has nothing to do with healthcare.

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<v Speaker 4>It's got to do with the management of the symptoms

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<v Speaker 4>of disease using drugs and surgery. And frankly, they do

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<v Speaker 4>a rather impressive job. They figured out more drugs that

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<v Speaker 4>you can take for the rest of your life than

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<v Speaker 4>ever before, and so the industry has never been more

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<v Speaker 4>profitable or lucrative. It's working great as far as that's concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but there's more sick people. That doesn't help.

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<v Speaker 4>As long as they're on drugs the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not a good statement for our country. You

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<v Speaker 1>define fasting than your book as pro long fast can

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<v Speaker 1>you define interminute fasting with the other types of fasting

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<v Speaker 1>that you promote.

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<v Speaker 4>So one thing we've promoted for the last forty years

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<v Speaker 4>is let's call it time restrictive feeding, which, as we suggest,

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<v Speaker 4>people do not eat three to four hours before they

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<v Speaker 4>go to bed every night, and that's going to give

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<v Speaker 4>them a period of twelve to sixteen hours of fasting

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<v Speaker 4>every day. So you don't eat, say let's see, you

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<v Speaker 4>have dinner at five o'clock or six o'clock, you don't

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<v Speaker 4>even do some exercise before you start eating in the morning.

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<v Speaker 4>And during that eight hour feeding window, you limit yourself

420
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<v Speaker 4>to whole plant foods that are free of salt, oil,

421
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<v Speaker 4>and sugar. If you do that and you're a male,

422
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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna lose three pounds a week down to optimum weight.

423
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<v Speaker 4>If you're a female, you're gonna lose about two pounds

424
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<v Speaker 4>a week down doctium weight. We're gonna lose about fifty

425
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<v Speaker 4>percent less weight, everything else being equal, because essentially females

426
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<v Speaker 4>are in that you're conserving fat storage devices. Biologically speaking,

427
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<v Speaker 4>they're full of estrogen, which is a fat storage hormone

428
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<v Speaker 4>that allows them to adapt a period of biological mobility

429
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<v Speaker 4>called pregnancy. So males are going to lose weight easier

430
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<v Speaker 4>than females are. Everything else being equal, and if you

431
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<v Speaker 4>ask any husband and wife, they'll agree that. You know,

432
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<v Speaker 4>when they go on a diet together, it doesn't work

433
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<v Speaker 4>the same. So it doesn't mean we can't be overweight

434
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<v Speaker 4>as males. We do have to work harder at it

435
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<v Speaker 4>than females do.

436
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So that's intermittent fasting. What's the other alternative?

437
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<v Speaker 4>There's the other there's also that's time restricted feeding. There's

438
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<v Speaker 4>other times of fasting when people fast for two days

439
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<v Speaker 4>a week, or you know, on and off and different things.

440
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<v Speaker 4>But what we've been advocating is time restricted feeding for

441
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<v Speaker 4>everybody every day and then as needed. It curred a

442
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<v Speaker 4>prolonged water only fasting where you're in a controlled environment,

443
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<v Speaker 4>under rest and you're doing nothing but water, and we

444
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<v Speaker 4>do that for up to forty days with patients at

445
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<v Speaker 4>a time. Good So Moses, David, Elijah Jesus and our

446
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<v Speaker 4>patients have been able to do long term fast and

447
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<v Speaker 4>we tell them they're in good company.

448
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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's funny. What's the benefit of water only

449
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<v Speaker 1>because I do a fast and I'll have water tea.

450
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<v Speaker 1>I think the longest fast I've done so far is

451
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<v Speaker 1>five days.

452
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So if those other modified forms of fasting where

453
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<v Speaker 4>people include juices or teas or boss with things and

454
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<v Speaker 4>they're fine and they have utility, they can be a

455
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<v Speaker 4>safe and you know, useful tool. But water only fasting

456
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<v Speaker 4>is what is the is the focus of the studies

457
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<v Speaker 4>that we've published, the book that we've written, and it's

458
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<v Speaker 4>where the research is. And when you have a person

459
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<v Speaker 4>that's really sick, there's nothing like water only fasting when

460
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<v Speaker 4>it comes to say, reversing diabetes, hypertension, automine disease, or cancer.

461
00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:45.160
<v Speaker 4>Modified fasting and healthy eating and diet and life cell

462
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<v Speaker 4>can be great, and there's lots of people advocating that.

463
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<v Speaker 4>Vaulter Longo has published a lot of work on Internet

464
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<v Speaker 4>and fasting. They have products like prol on and other things.

465
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<v Speaker 4>The advantage to that is it's it's a gentler, slower,

466
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<v Speaker 4>safer kind of approach that people can do that doesn't

467
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<v Speaker 4>require our history exam lab and monitoring that water fasting does.

468
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<v Speaker 4>In order to do a long term water fast first

469
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<v Speaker 4>you have to make sure you're a good candidate for

470
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<v Speaker 4>a fasting, not everybody is, and the way you do

471
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<v Speaker 4>that is by medical history, physical examine, some lab testing.

472
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<v Speaker 4>And then if you are a good candidate for fasting,

473
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<v Speaker 4>you have to make sure you rest during fasting and

474
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<v Speaker 4>you stay hydrated so you avoid dehydration and debilitation. And

475
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<v Speaker 4>then you have to carefully refeed after fasting to avoid

476
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<v Speaker 4>post fasting a demo or potentially fatal refeeding syndrome. So

477
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<v Speaker 4>if you take a person in fast and for say

478
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<v Speaker 4>thirty days, and you too too rapidly refeed them, they

479
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<v Speaker 4>can get really sick. And so it's important that there's

480
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<v Speaker 4>a protocol that's fauled. That's what we've laid out in

481
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<v Speaker 4>our book Can Fastening Save Your Life? It tells people

482
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<v Speaker 4>how to determine are they a candidate for fasting, if

483
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<v Speaker 4>they're going to fast, how to do it, and if

484
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<v Speaker 4>they're doing it, once they're done doing it, how to

485
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<v Speaker 4>refeed and how to eat after fasting so that you

486
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<v Speaker 4>can maintain a good long term success.

487
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, give us a couple of examples of someone who

488
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<v Speaker 1>would not be a good candidate for fast So.

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<v Speaker 4>A person, for example, that's on certain types of medications

490
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<v Speaker 4>like antiquagulant therapy or story therapy. You can't just stop

491
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<v Speaker 4>those medications. The rapid withdrawal of those medications can result

492
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<v Speaker 4>in a stroke or problem. But you can't fast on

493
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:18.200
<v Speaker 4>medications because drugs become greatly potentiated during fasting. As toxic

494
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:21.000
<v Speaker 4>as drugs are in the fed state, in the fasting state,

495
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:23.960
<v Speaker 4>they could become greatly potentiated. So a medication you might

496
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<v Speaker 4>be able to take in the feeding state and get

497
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<v Speaker 4>away with it, a non stralian inflammatory, for example, in

498
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<v Speaker 4>the fasting state, could shut down your kidneys to deliver

499
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<v Speaker 4>and create all kinds of problems. So we don't fast

500
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<v Speaker 4>on medications, but you can't just arbitrarily discontinue all medications.

501
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<v Speaker 4>That's why you need to work with a position that's

502
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<v Speaker 4>not an idiot to help you figure out how to

503
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<v Speaker 4>transition into a state where you can't fasting. Or if

504
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<v Speaker 4>you can't do that, let's say you're on a medication

505
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<v Speaker 4>that can't be conveniently withdrawn, then we would modify the

506
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<v Speaker 4>protocol into more of like what you mentioned to juice

507
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:54.759
<v Speaker 4>fast or modified fast and see where you'd be able

508
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<v Speaker 4>to do that safely and continue to take your medications

509
00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:01.519
<v Speaker 4>to do water only. Fasting does work, that you take

510
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<v Speaker 4>some time to make sure that you're a good candidate

511
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<v Speaker 4>and that it be done properly, or it can be

512
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<v Speaker 4>really become a mess.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, everybody seems to be on some kind of

514
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<v Speaker 1>drug because of the allopathic model that we're all facing with.

515
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<v Speaker 1>If someone's on statins, is that a drug that would

516
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<v Speaker 1>be compromising for a fast.

517
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<v Speaker 4>Well, you wouldn't fast on status. But there's absolutely no

518
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<v Speaker 4>reason you can't discontinue statum medications. Statum medications don't work

519
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<v Speaker 4>very well if you actually look at you know the

520
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<v Speaker 4>number of people that benefit versus those that are damaged

521
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<v Speaker 4>from statu medications that with the withdrawal of statum medications

522
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<v Speaker 4>is normally not one of those complicating factors. In fact,

523
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<v Speaker 4>some medications like bloo pressure medications, you have to withdraw

524
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<v Speaker 4>even in preparation for fasting, because just going on a

525
00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:50.039
<v Speaker 4>healthy diet reduces your needs for medications. Your blood pressure

526
00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:52.240
<v Speaker 4>comes down, you don't get off the medications, you'll be

527
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<v Speaker 4>having people passing out and having all kinds of problems

528
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<v Speaker 4>because people are not being medicated for their high blood pressure.

529
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<v Speaker 4>They're being medicated for the diet that causes the high

530
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<v Speaker 4>blood pressure, and the moment you change the cause, which

531
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<v Speaker 4>is the diet, you have to start appropriately withdrawing the medication. Yeah,

532
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<v Speaker 4>but obviously you monitor the situation. You do want to

533
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<v Speaker 4>have rebound hypertensive prices or something like that. But that's

534
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<v Speaker 4>why we're saying if people are going to do long

535
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:17.000
<v Speaker 4>term fasting, there's one or two ways to do it.

536
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<v Speaker 4>You can work with people like us that provide remote

537
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:23.319
<v Speaker 4>support in conjunction with your local doctor, and they can

538
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:25.920
<v Speaker 4>use the information in the book to educate themselves as

539
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:28.079
<v Speaker 4>well as their doctor. Where they come to toe in

540
00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:30.680
<v Speaker 4>our health center where that's what we do. We put

541
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<v Speaker 4>people in an inpatient setting. They get examined twice a day,

542
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:36.720
<v Speaker 4>they're carefully monitored, and we've done it with twenty five

543
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<v Speaker 4>thousand people in a row and everybody that's walked in

544
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<v Speaker 4>is walked out.

545
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<v Speaker 1>And that was one of my questions. You haven't lost anybody.

546
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<v Speaker 4>No, not only have we not had anybody die, but

547
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:48.720
<v Speaker 4>we've actually published the only long term water fast and

548
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<v Speaker 4>safety study where we've actually looked at all cause mortality complications,

549
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:55.680
<v Speaker 4>what happens, and all of that's detailed in our book.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to talk real briefly about chapter three,

551
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<v Speaker 1>which you just highlighted, called is fasting safe? Give us

552
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<v Speaker 1>the basics of somebody who might be concerned, especially with.

553
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<v Speaker 4>Prolonged fast well again, people that are on medications where

554
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<v Speaker 4>you can't be stabilized, people that have antirex or nevosa,

555
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:16.119
<v Speaker 4>people that are in a cataxic state, may not be

556
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<v Speaker 4>caochandists for fasting. If you're pregnant or lactating, that wouldn't

557
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<v Speaker 4>be a good time. Yeah, long wild only fastening. If

558
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<v Speaker 4>you're lactating, your illusion real production, that's not desirable. There

559
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<v Speaker 4>are problems atrial fibrillation, recent stroke am I. Again, if

560
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<v Speaker 4>you're on any coagulant therapy, those are medications you have

561
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<v Speaker 4>to be exquisitely careful about withdrawing. People that are on neuropsychmads. Again,

562
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<v Speaker 4>we're happy to help people get off these medications, but

563
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:46.359
<v Speaker 4>you have to do it slowly and carefully, a lot

564
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<v Speaker 4>of times we have doctors that work remotely for people

565
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<v Speaker 4>through telemedicine, and they'll work with them sometimes for weeks

566
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<v Speaker 4>or months excellent before they actually come out to the center.

567
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<v Speaker 4>The only annoying thing about that is, like I've been

568
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<v Speaker 4>enrolling these patients in the study, like the one we

569
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<v Speaker 4>did with the Male Clinic looking at hyper and we'll

570
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<v Speaker 4>enroll people in these studies because they're good candidates, and

571
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<v Speaker 4>then they'll work with our doctors remotely, and oftentimes they

572
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<v Speaker 4>do so well that they no longer qualified for the

573
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<v Speaker 4>study by the time they come in. It's so annoying.

574
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<v Speaker 1>You're just too good, fella.

575
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<v Speaker 4>So you know, the reality is it helps results in

576
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<v Speaker 4>healthical living. It's diets, sleep, and exercise. If you can

577
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:23.440
<v Speaker 4>do the diet, sleep and exercise, often you'll do so well.

578
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:28.079
<v Speaker 4>Fastening becomes secondary. But some people have trouble implementing the

579
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:30.440
<v Speaker 4>diet and lifestyle changes, and so if fasting could be

580
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<v Speaker 4>a hopeful tool at adjusting their palate, correcting their got microwium,

581
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:37.279
<v Speaker 4>helping them get off medications, there's a lot of people

582
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<v Speaker 4>that once they feel better, their capacity that fast improves

583
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<v Speaker 4>a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a short commercial break to allow

585
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<v Speaker 1>our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly

586
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<v Speaker 1>with my guest today, doctor Allan Goldhammer discussing his latest book,

587
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<v Speaker 1>Can Fasting Save Your Life? We'll be right back. My

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<v Speaker 1>guest today is doctor Allan Goldhammer. He is the director

589
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<v Speaker 1>of True North Health Clinic, a fasting clinic in Santa Rosa, California,

590
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<v Speaker 1>and we're discussing his latest book just came out called

591
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<v Speaker 1>Can fast Save Your Life? Inflammation has come around to

592
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:14.239
<v Speaker 1>be well studied now and when you have an inflammated brain,

593
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<v Speaker 1>apparently this is the beginning of dementia and other problems.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have a section in your book where you

595
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<v Speaker 1>describe fasting to balance metabolism. Why is that important? I

596
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<v Speaker 1>understand why it is, but talk a little bit for

597
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<v Speaker 1>our listeners.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, I mean there's a number of things there.

599
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<v Speaker 4>When we talk about tables, we also talk about got microbiomas.

600
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<v Speaker 4>It relates to it. And also you mentioned this brain information.

601
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<v Speaker 4>This is really important. There's some great studies done on

602
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<v Speaker 4>a rodents initially where they had thirty rats. These are

603
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:51.280
<v Speaker 4>genetically bred animals are identical. So you have thirty rodents

604
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<v Speaker 4>and another thirty romans. Each of them are identical, and

605
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<v Speaker 4>they're fed identically, and they're in the same identical cage.

606
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<v Speaker 4>It's the only difference was they gave half of the wheel,

607
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:03.760
<v Speaker 4>and the rats with the wheel would run on the

608
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:08.079
<v Speaker 4>wheel and they wouldn't develop Alzheimer's disease. And people said,

609
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:11.559
<v Speaker 4>what the heck, how is it that exercise is preventing

610
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<v Speaker 4>Alzheimer's disease? And they analyzed the rats and they realized

611
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<v Speaker 4>that what was happening is the exercise induced BDNF brain

612
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:22.320
<v Speaker 4>drive neutrophic factor, which is a chemical that prevents Alzheimer's

613
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:25.800
<v Speaker 4>disease by neutralizing the effect of inflammation in the brain.

614
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<v Speaker 4>And so it turns out that if you exercise, your

615
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:35.400
<v Speaker 4>incidence of brain inflammation goes down a lot. Well, one

616
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<v Speaker 4>of the other things that dramatically increases BDNF brain drive

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<v Speaker 4>neutrophic factor is fast And so if you take rats,

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<v Speaker 4>for example, again matched rats, and you feed them identically,

619
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<v Speaker 4>do everything the same, but you periodically fast after the

620
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<v Speaker 4>rats you double their lifespan. Wow, they live twice as long.

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<v Speaker 4>And part of it is BDNF goes up and other

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<v Speaker 4>biomarker changes. In fact, if you look at all the

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<v Speaker 4>biome marker changes that occur with exercise, almost all of

624
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<v Speaker 4>them also improve with fasting. And that's weird when you

625
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:09.480
<v Speaker 4>think about it. It's not intuitively obvious because in exercise

626
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<v Speaker 4>you're vigorous and active. In fasting, you're resting. Why would

627
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:17.199
<v Speaker 4>both of these completely unrelated activities avoid and cause the

628
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:20.719
<v Speaker 4>same biochemical improvements? And I think the reason is that

629
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:22.920
<v Speaker 4>both of these things have one thing in common. They

630
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:26.519
<v Speaker 4>both undo the consequence of dietary access. They both get

631
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:29.039
<v Speaker 4>rid of the fat and the visceral fat that produces

632
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:32.320
<v Speaker 4>the inflammation that causes all these diseases. These are not

633
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:37.719
<v Speaker 4>unrelated conditions. These are all common conditions but manifesting in

634
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:41.960
<v Speaker 4>different ways. And that's why these different conditions respond to fasting.

635
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<v Speaker 4>Whether it's high blood pressure. If you look at high

636
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:48.039
<v Speaker 4>blood pssure, the believing contribute causes death and disability. We

637
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:50.199
<v Speaker 4>have the largest effects that they've ever been shown in

638
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:52.719
<v Speaker 4>treating high blood pressure. We took one hundred and seventy

639
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:55.679
<v Speaker 4>four consecutive patients with high blood pressure, and one hundred

640
00:37:55.679 --> 00:37:58.679
<v Speaker 4>and seventy four people normalize the pressure enough to eliminate

641
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:00.880
<v Speaker 4>the need for medication. We have a law ourgest effects

642
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:03.960
<v Speaker 4>ever shown with a sixty point dropping in sistelic blood

643
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:05.400
<v Speaker 4>pressure and stage WE hypertension.

644
00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:07.840
<v Speaker 1>They all fast at the same time period.

645
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:10.119
<v Speaker 4>No, it ranges from five to forty days. The need

646
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:13.960
<v Speaker 4>for fasting various on the circumstance of the patient. We

647
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:16.599
<v Speaker 4>recently did a study with our colleague from the male clinic.

648
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:20.599
<v Speaker 4>Twenty seven patients with hypertension on medications. Twenty six were

649
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:23.880
<v Speaker 4>able to normalize their pressure entirely without medication. One required

650
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:26.559
<v Speaker 4>half dosing at six We follow up. Then we followed

651
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:30.920
<v Speaker 4>those patients for one year and we said what percentage

652
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:33.559
<v Speaker 4>of those people would have maintained their weight loss and

653
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:35.760
<v Speaker 4>what percentage of them would still be off drugs and

654
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:39.079
<v Speaker 4>have normal blood pressure. Seventy six percent of those patients

655
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:42.360
<v Speaker 4>on follow up had maintained their weight loss and the

656
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:45.960
<v Speaker 4>majority had normal blood pressure without medication even a year later.

657
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:48.960
<v Speaker 4>So what it shows you was highly motivated people that

658
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:51.480
<v Speaker 4>are willing to do dangerous and radical things like eat

659
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:54.880
<v Speaker 4>well and exercise and go to bebon on and maybe

660
00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:58.559
<v Speaker 4>do some fasting can not only overcome this disease but

661
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:01.480
<v Speaker 4>maintain it long term. And this is a disease that

662
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:03.679
<v Speaker 4>almost every doctor in the country will tell you you'll

663
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:05.079
<v Speaker 4>be on the drugs for the rest of your life

664
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<v Speaker 4>because they don't see people get well.

665
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:08.800
<v Speaker 1>HM. That's fascinating.

666
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<v Speaker 4>I was in Texas. I gave a talk to a

667
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:14.719
<v Speaker 4>group of medical doctors diamatologists, and we talked about my

668
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:18.719
<v Speaker 4>experience treating diabetes. And one of the doctors came up

669
00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:21.719
<v Speaker 4>and these doctors were almost all overweight. They were serving

670
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:25.000
<v Speaker 4>a pulled pork sandwiches and chocolate cake. And there was

671
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:28.199
<v Speaker 4>nothing to eat at this conference for me except there

672
00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:30.920
<v Speaker 4>were some decorations on the table, some bell peppers, they

673
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:33.559
<v Speaker 4>put some Brits. I have to say they were delicious.

674
00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:36.320
<v Speaker 4>But anyway, that afterwards, one of the doctors came up

675
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:37.719
<v Speaker 4>to me and he said, you know, I've been treating

676
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:40.880
<v Speaker 4>diabegs for twenty five years. I've never seen one get well.

677
00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:44.000
<v Speaker 4>He says, maybe I should try this diet stuff myself.

678
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:47.360
<v Speaker 4>And I'm thinking, you know, if I'd been treating somebody

679
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:49.360
<v Speaker 4>for twenty five years and nobody ever get well, I'd

680
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:51.800
<v Speaker 4>start thinking maybe it's me. But you know, maybe that's

681
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:52.119
<v Speaker 4>just me.

682
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Hey, are there any studies on the effects of

683
00:39:56.000 --> 00:40:01.760
<v Speaker 1>fasting with the pre onset of dementia or any of

684
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:08.440
<v Speaker 1>these brain fog conditions that are just overwhelming us right now?

685
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:12.320
<v Speaker 4>So there's no conditions showing the reversal of established dementia

686
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:15.400
<v Speaker 4>with fasting. But there is some excellent data coming out

687
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:18.480
<v Speaker 4>from Dean Ornish, the guy who's been famous for his

688
00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:21.920
<v Speaker 4>work on cardiavastuo disease, and he's looking at He's looked

689
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:24.360
<v Speaker 4>at prostate cancer, and now he's looking at Alzheimer's disease.

690
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:27.000
<v Speaker 4>And so I would defer to his work. We haven't

691
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:29.440
<v Speaker 4>published anything on Alzheimer's. You know, it's a very difficult

692
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:31.719
<v Speaker 4>to study. You have to do really long term follow up.

693
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:34.239
<v Speaker 4>It's hard to objectify. We tend to focus on the

694
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:37.079
<v Speaker 4>low hanging fruit, the people that are dooming success that

695
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:39.719
<v Speaker 4>have fabulous results and make us look good because we're

696
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:42.800
<v Speaker 4>still doing something that's considered very controversial. I don't know

697
00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:45.679
<v Speaker 4>that we're still up there being equated with Jim Jones

698
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:49.679
<v Speaker 4>or something. But you know, fasting long term still seems

699
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:51.719
<v Speaker 4>kind of radical. I mean, most people think if they

700
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:53.239
<v Speaker 4>got on a plane in New York and they flew

701
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:55.519
<v Speaker 4>all the way to California, they'd die over Colorado if

702
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:58.280
<v Speaker 4>they didn't eat those pretzels. You know, that's pretty sure.

703
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:00.119
<v Speaker 4>The pretzels saved their life.

704
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:01.519
<v Speaker 1>That's funny.

705
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:04.280
<v Speaker 4>But he is doing work on Alzheimer's and diet, and

706
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:06.800
<v Speaker 4>so I'd looked at him for research on Alzheimer's. It's

707
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:09.280
<v Speaker 4>not a condition that we've had success reversing.

708
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's funny because we were just talking about the

709
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:15.960
<v Speaker 1>reduction of inflammation, which is the big problem with dementia,

710
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:20.079
<v Speaker 1>and if fasting reduces it or perhaps limits it with

711
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:25.039
<v Speaker 1>a follow up refeeding as you call it, and lifestyle change,

712
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:27.599
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if there is a chance to reduce it

713
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:31.599
<v Speaker 1>or I'm not sure you can reduce or eliminate the.

714
00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:34.960
<v Speaker 4>Damaged to stop it. We know that you can stop it.

715
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:38.400
<v Speaker 4>Like I said, exercise helps prevent Alzheimer's disease, and rats

716
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:41.760
<v Speaker 4>and human beings that by increasing BDNF and fasting definitely

717
00:41:41.800 --> 00:41:44.800
<v Speaker 4>increased b D and F. But remember, inflammation isn't the enemy.

718
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:47.519
<v Speaker 4>Inflammation is the process of the body uses to get well.

719
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:50.920
<v Speaker 4>It's just when the inflammation doesn't work, when it's limited

720
00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:54.360
<v Speaker 4>because of the greasy, fatty, slimy, dead, decaying flesh, you know,

721
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:57.360
<v Speaker 4>disease state, it never gets a chance to help the

722
00:41:57.360 --> 00:41:59.960
<v Speaker 4>body resolve the problem. It becomes damaging in and of itself.

723
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:03.800
<v Speaker 4>So like in fasting, inflammation actually goes up. But then

724
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:07.480
<v Speaker 4>it resolves the problem and comes down dramatically. So it's

725
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:09.599
<v Speaker 4>not that the inflammation is the problem, it's just the

726
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:12.079
<v Speaker 4>medical management is seeing inflammation as the problem, so they

727
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.400
<v Speaker 4>give you drugs the suppression inflammation, and the problem is

728
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:18.880
<v Speaker 4>at first, it's like if you treat umatron arthritis and

729
00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:20.840
<v Speaker 4>you get pregnice on it. First it's like a dream

730
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:23.199
<v Speaker 4>because the pain goes away. But then it becomes a

731
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:25.559
<v Speaker 4>nightmare because it turns out the way it works is

732
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:28.320
<v Speaker 4>turning off the immune system if you need your immune system,

733
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:31.599
<v Speaker 4>and so long term it's a nightmare. It's like these

734
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:35.119
<v Speaker 4>new drugs they're using for weight loss, so zepic ANDJP inhibitors.

735
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:39.559
<v Speaker 4>People are eating ultra processed foods. They can't regulate the quantity,

736
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:41.920
<v Speaker 4>so they get fat. You give these drugs to people,

737
00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:43.920
<v Speaker 4>they get sick enough that they eat less of that

738
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:47.159
<v Speaker 4>highly processed food. They lose some of their appetite, and

739
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:48.840
<v Speaker 4>so they get a little bit less fat. On the

740
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:52.039
<v Speaker 4>long run, it's a complete nightmare because you know, all

741
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:54.400
<v Speaker 4>you're doing is giving people the ability to keep doing

742
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:57.639
<v Speaker 4>the thing that causes the problem, but making them sick

743
00:42:57.719 --> 00:42:59.599
<v Speaker 4>enough that they don't eat as much of it. That's

744
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:02.519
<v Speaker 4>not a good long term solution. Yeah, a short term though,

745
00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:04.519
<v Speaker 4>they lose some weight. But if you just are interested

746
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:06.480
<v Speaker 4>in short from weight loss, I tell patients just get

747
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:08.639
<v Speaker 4>a chainsaw, cut your leg off at the hip. It's

748
00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:12.639
<v Speaker 4>forty pounds overnight, no messing around, Eat whatever you want.

749
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Jesus duck. That's pretty radical. That's pretty extreme. About all.

750
00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:20.159
<v Speaker 4>Radical means radical, root rut, or cause. So yeah, everything

751
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:21.960
<v Speaker 4>we do is pretty radical or trying to get the

752
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:25.400
<v Speaker 4>root cause, which is, instead of trying to suppress your

753
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:28.960
<v Speaker 4>satiety mechanism so you can keep eating crap, what we

754
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:31.599
<v Speaker 4>would say is, let's stop eating crap. It's like trying

755
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:34.440
<v Speaker 4>to treat alcoholics by telling them to drink beer and wine.

756
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:36.920
<v Speaker 4>It's not going to work long term. R Okay, what

757
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:39.119
<v Speaker 4>works is to stop drinking. You want to lose weight,

758
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:41.239
<v Speaker 4>stop eating the sugar, oil, and salt that full your

759
00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:43.320
<v Speaker 4>society mechanisms, and you will lose weight.

760
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:47.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I want you to address a portion of the

761
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:51.760
<v Speaker 1>book that I thought was pretty enlightening, which is fasting

762
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:55.599
<v Speaker 1>for the reduction of obesity. This is a huge problem

763
00:43:55.599 --> 00:44:00.199
<v Speaker 1>in America because not only our diet but sedentary life

764
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:06.320
<v Speaker 1>styles that creep up and then you're given the drugs

765
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:12.400
<v Speaker 1>for cholesterol, you're given blood thinners for perhaps a heart condition,

766
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.599
<v Speaker 1>and it's an ugly cycle that people fall into.

767
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:18.239
<v Speaker 4>It's a very lucrative cycle though it's working great and

768
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:20.079
<v Speaker 4>especially now the new drugs you have to take for

769
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:22.400
<v Speaker 4>the rest of your life, that's what they're looking at.

770
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:26.960
<v Speaker 4>Drugs you take or inject forever. Becomes a great profit center.

771
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:30.719
<v Speaker 4>And also it means you don't have to give up

772
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:34.159
<v Speaker 4>your addiction. You know. Again, alcoholics don't like being told

773
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:37.079
<v Speaker 4>they have to stop drinking. It seems so radical. I mean,

774
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:41.119
<v Speaker 4>no drinking at all. But you know, overweight people don't

775
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:42.320
<v Speaker 4>want to be told they have to give up the

776
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:45.079
<v Speaker 4>hyperprocess foods, which makes us up to seventy percent of

777
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:47.840
<v Speaker 4>the calories that people eat. As we're talking about going

778
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:51.239
<v Speaker 4>really radical back to a whole plant food diet, the

779
00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:53.519
<v Speaker 4>kind of foods people ate for two hundred thousand years

780
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:56.679
<v Speaker 4>until the Industrial Revolution two hundred years ago. A lot

781
00:44:56.679 --> 00:45:00.079
<v Speaker 4>of us to strut transitioning to ultra process foods. Well,

782
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.119
<v Speaker 4>that's the diet of people eat. When you go into

783
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:04.320
<v Speaker 4>a grocery store, Like I made a comment that ninety

784
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:06.280
<v Speaker 4>five percent of the foods and Whole Foods have nothing

785
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:08.800
<v Speaker 4>to do with Whole Foods. And the owner of Whole

786
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:11.119
<v Speaker 4>Foods who was at our facility at the time before

787
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:13.280
<v Speaker 4>it got bought by Amazon, so that was not true.

788
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:17.519
<v Speaker 4>It was ninety nine percent the ninety nine percent of

789
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:19.400
<v Speaker 4>the food and ninety nine percent of the profit had

790
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:20.639
<v Speaker 4>nothing to do with Whole Foods.

791
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:21.320
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

792
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:23.559
<v Speaker 4>And so you know, and I and they explained to me,

793
00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:26.519
<v Speaker 4>you should be grateful to those people buying the meat, fish, fowl, eggs,

794
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:30.519
<v Speaker 4>dairy products of oil, AsSalt, sugar, chocolate, because they're all

795
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:32.880
<v Speaker 4>the profit was. If it wasn't for them, there'd be

796
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:35.039
<v Speaker 4>no Whole Foods. And so now when I go into

797
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:37.199
<v Speaker 4>Whole Foods, like I was just in New York and

798
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:38.840
<v Speaker 4>there was a huge Whole Foods. There were like one

799
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:41.480
<v Speaker 4>hundred checkouts, and I saw all these people filling up

800
00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:44.000
<v Speaker 4>their carts with all this highly processed, help compromising food.

801
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:46.360
<v Speaker 4>But my attitude's very different. I went around and thanked

802
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:51.440
<v Speaker 4>them for their support. You know, it's like, you know, you're.

803
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Fuddy come to my clinic. You suggest in your book

804
00:45:55.039 --> 00:46:01.119
<v Speaker 1>prolonged water fast can reverse obesity. All is how that works.

805
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:04.440
<v Speaker 4>So what happens in water fasting is I mentioned in

806
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:07.519
<v Speaker 4>a study we did recently where people in what two

807
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:09.599
<v Speaker 4>weeks are fasting, they would lose ten percent of fat,

808
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:12.239
<v Speaker 4>twenty percent of the ten percent of their body weight,

809
00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:15.199
<v Speaker 4>twenty percent of their fat, forty percent of their visceral fat.

810
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:18.159
<v Speaker 4>You lose this weight, and the fat loss continues even

811
00:46:18.199 --> 00:46:21.320
<v Speaker 4>as you replenish protein, water, fiber, and glycogen. And then,

812
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:23.360
<v Speaker 4>assuming you're willing to eat a whole plant food diet,

813
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:25.280
<v Speaker 4>you'll continue to lose weight. And that's exactly what our

814
00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:27.519
<v Speaker 4>patients do. So and if you're a male, you can

815
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:29.639
<v Speaker 4>expect an average or three pounds a week, a female

816
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:32.840
<v Speaker 4>about two pounds a week, and that's with moderate activity.

817
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:35.159
<v Speaker 4>That's not being an Olympic athlete. It's not doing anything,

818
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:38.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, outrageous, and so you will see these transformations.

819
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:40.840
<v Speaker 4>More importantly, we've got lots of people that are able

820
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:43.320
<v Speaker 4>to lose that fifty one hundred pounds, but years later

821
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:45.880
<v Speaker 4>they've kept it off. And so even though we know

822
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:48.440
<v Speaker 4>the chance of a male ever doing that is one

823
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:50.719
<v Speaker 4>in one two hundred and eighty in the United States,

824
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.719
<v Speaker 4>you know our numbers are completely different. But it's because

825
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:57.760
<v Speaker 4>we're getting people to fundamentally change their diet lifestyle. You

826
00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:00.159
<v Speaker 4>have to change what you put in your mouth, and

827
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:01.880
<v Speaker 4>if you want it to be effective, it also helps

828
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:03.639
<v Speaker 4>to get enough sleep and do enough exercise.

829
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:07.639
<v Speaker 1>So plant based diet it means no meat whatsoever. Are

830
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:08.199
<v Speaker 1>you saying no.

831
00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:11.800
<v Speaker 4>Beef, but we're saying exclusively whole plant food diet that's

832
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:16.119
<v Speaker 4>SOS free. Basically, here's what you tell patients. Close your

833
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:20.039
<v Speaker 4>eyes and go inside yourself and ask yourself any food

834
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:22.679
<v Speaker 4>that could possibly give you joy or comfort and get

835
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:30.320
<v Speaker 4>rid of it, So no more hand get nothing. Fruits

836
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:33.599
<v Speaker 4>and vegetables, grains and humes, nuts and seeds, no meat, fish, fowl, eggs,

837
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:35.920
<v Speaker 4>dry proucts, oil, salt or sugar. And we say it

838
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:38.440
<v Speaker 4>really quickly. What you give up is meat, fish, fally stairy,

839
00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:40.760
<v Speaker 4>parks of ol, salt, sugar. By saying it quickly, you

840
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:42.840
<v Speaker 4>don't seem like you're giving up so much. And then

841
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:44.400
<v Speaker 4>when you talk about what you can have, you say

842
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:49.239
<v Speaker 4>it really slowly. Fruit and then name them all apples, bananas, pea, juice.

843
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:52.840
<v Speaker 4>Pair the whole food, though we're not talking about juicing

844
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:55.760
<v Speaker 4>so much and processing and drying, talking about whole So

845
00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:58.760
<v Speaker 4>for breakfast, for example, you might have fruits and some grains.

846
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:02.320
<v Speaker 4>You might have a grain like oatmeal at lunch, big salads,

847
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:04.280
<v Speaker 4>and how do you know if you have enough salad?

848
00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:05.880
<v Speaker 4>If you don't have a scale way out a pound

849
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:07.880
<v Speaker 4>of salad, you just put your salad down and wait

850
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:09.280
<v Speaker 4>for the people that work to walk in the room

851
00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:12.239
<v Speaker 4>and they go, oh my gosh, you're not gonna eat

852
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:14.480
<v Speaker 4>all that, are you? You know you're okay if they

853
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:16.719
<v Speaker 4>don't react with shock and awe. You've got the wrong

854
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:19.840
<v Speaker 4>size bull. Get yourself a bucket. You got to eat

855
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:20.199
<v Speaker 4>a lot.

856
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:20.840
<v Speaker 1>You eat so.

857
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:24.679
<v Speaker 4>Much low chloric density, high nutrition density food. There's no

858
00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:27.199
<v Speaker 4>room left for the highly processed foods. It's making everybody

859
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:29.480
<v Speaker 4>fat for they So you got to eat more, and

860
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:31.920
<v Speaker 4>you gotta sleep more. Get the bet on time so

861
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:34.719
<v Speaker 4>you can wake up feeling refreshed, getting some exercise. These

862
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:37.719
<v Speaker 4>are critically important issues, but it's exactly what people don't do.

863
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:41.719
<v Speaker 4>They deprive themselves asleep, They get over stimulated, they get angry,

864
00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:44.239
<v Speaker 4>mad and frustrated, so they use drugs like a food

865
00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:47.159
<v Speaker 4>to deal with their emotional issues. They don't dissipate their

866
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:50.519
<v Speaker 4>stress with exercise. They surround themselves with what I call

867
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:53.440
<v Speaker 4>energy vampires, and those are people that do what they

868
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:55.320
<v Speaker 4>do best, and that's make other people as sick and

869
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:57.320
<v Speaker 4>miserable as they are, so by comparison, they don't have

870
00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:00.639
<v Speaker 4>to feel so bad. And so if you're of those loving,

871
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:03.320
<v Speaker 4>caring kind people that worries about what other people feel,

872
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:06.679
<v Speaker 4>it's even harder because you know, even as you lose weight,

873
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:09.440
<v Speaker 4>they start getting upset. You ask women what happens when

874
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:11.400
<v Speaker 4>they lose fifty pounds. They go back to work. The

875
00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:14.360
<v Speaker 4>other women aren't going like, Oh, we're so proud of you.

876
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:16.320
<v Speaker 4>You must have adopted a whole plant food diet. What

877
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:17.679
<v Speaker 4>can we do to help? No, you walk in the

878
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:20.639
<v Speaker 4>room and they're going like, oh, here she comes that bit.

879
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:23.159
<v Speaker 4>You know, they're all over the Where are you going

880
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:25.519
<v Speaker 4>to get your protein from? It's no good to be

881
00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:28.519
<v Speaker 4>a fanatic though, there's nothing but fortunately men, it's not

882
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:30.679
<v Speaker 4>so bad. Men lose fifty pounds, they go back to

883
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:34.599
<v Speaker 4>what the other men don't notice, and if they do notice,

884
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:37.480
<v Speaker 4>they don't care. So a little bit easier for the males,

885
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:39.360
<v Speaker 4>a little bit harder for the females. That's just how

886
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:39.679
<v Speaker 4>it is.

887
00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:46.599
<v Speaker 1>Interesting talk about the state someone's physiology is in as

888
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:50.360
<v Speaker 1>they're fit fasting and you actually talk about reversing obesity,

889
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:54.719
<v Speaker 1>but you also talked about the refeeding process and how

890
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:59.559
<v Speaker 1>that adds to the continual weight loss. I think that's fascinating.

891
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Is there a trigger point and a mechanism in the

892
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:05.320
<v Speaker 1>system that is turned on at a certain point when

893
00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:07.239
<v Speaker 1>somebody is trying to reduce the body fat.

894
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:11.400
<v Speaker 4>Well, one of the things that's unique about fasting is

895
00:50:11.400 --> 00:50:14.840
<v Speaker 4>that not only preferentially mobilizes fat, but it particularly targets

896
00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:19.800
<v Speaker 4>this visceral fat, this tumor like material that's hypermetabolic, that's

897
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:23.639
<v Speaker 4>giving off inflammatory products. Once you lose the fat, if

898
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:25.679
<v Speaker 4>you're on a whole plant food sus free diet, you're

899
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:28.159
<v Speaker 4>not getting the chlored density necessary to put on the

900
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:31.239
<v Speaker 4>excess fat. So your body will continue to mobilize fat

901
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:34.960
<v Speaker 4>as it regains protein, water, fiber, and glycogen. So let's

902
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:37.119
<v Speaker 4>say you lose twenty pounds in faster, you're going to

903
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:40.599
<v Speaker 4>regain ten pounds, but it's not that it's water fiber

904
00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:43.679
<v Speaker 4>doing protein, and the fat loss will continue even if

905
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:46.239
<v Speaker 4>the scale is up initially, then you're gonna stabilize and

906
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:48.599
<v Speaker 4>then you're going to lose weight. You know, we've proven

907
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:50.599
<v Speaker 4>this over and over again. But more importantly, you're going

908
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:52.840
<v Speaker 4>to normalize your blood pressure, you're going to normalize your

909
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:55.679
<v Speaker 4>blood sugar levels. You're going to reboot the gut microbiome.

910
00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:58.400
<v Speaker 4>Think about this. You got maybe a trillion creatures of

911
00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:02.360
<v Speaker 4>more five pounds of organs living in your gut, little

912
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:08.079
<v Speaker 4>creatures swimming around, protozoa bacteria eating, swimming and dedicating inside you.

913
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:11.880
<v Speaker 4>Right now today you have five pounds of creatures deficating

914
00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:15.199
<v Speaker 4>inside your xestinal time and what they pooing you depends

915
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:17.880
<v Speaker 4>on what you feed them. If you feed them meat, fish,

916
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:20.800
<v Speaker 4>valleys and diary parks, they're going to be pooing things

917
00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:24.079
<v Speaker 4>like TMA trimethylaminoxidacent to you, which is why mediators get

918
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:26.280
<v Speaker 4>so much color cancer and prompts. On the other hand,

919
00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:29.719
<v Speaker 4>if you feed them plants, you get different organisms and

920
00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:32.559
<v Speaker 4>different pooh. You're going to be getting vitamin K and

921
00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:35.079
<v Speaker 4>fertilizer things you actually need. So if you want to

922
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:39.840
<v Speaker 4>have fertilizers to the TMA, feed your organisms plants. Think

923
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:43.079
<v Speaker 4>about this. If you took your body and separated whole

924
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, human cells from non human cells, like you

925
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:48.280
<v Speaker 4>know your skin is teeming with bacteria, your guts teeming

926
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:52.840
<v Speaker 4>with vecteria. There's actually more quantitative numbers of non human

927
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:56.239
<v Speaker 4>cells than human cells making up your body right now. Wow,

928
00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:59.480
<v Speaker 4>there are more non human cells in that mass you

929
00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:03.400
<v Speaker 4>carrier out than human cells. So it's very important that

930
00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:05.360
<v Speaker 4>we get along with these organisms. And the way you

931
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:07.159
<v Speaker 4>do that is to feed them the diet they're designed

932
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:11.960
<v Speaker 4>to eat, which is high amounts of vegetable sailos, not greasy, fatty, slimy, dead,

933
00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:13.559
<v Speaker 4>decaying flesh.

934
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Talk about real briefly about these this new term sinessence

935
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:22.199
<v Speaker 1>cells or zombie cells. This is a big thing right now.

936
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:25.360
<v Speaker 1>People are trying to rid themselves of these zombie cells.

937
00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:27.679
<v Speaker 1>How does fasting work with that?

938
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:30.760
<v Speaker 4>Well, the thing what's really exciting is that the Nobel

939
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:34.880
<v Speaker 4>Prize actually for medicine twenty eighteen Yocenary assuming was about autophogy.

940
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:38.239
<v Speaker 4>How the immune system eats up these old decrepit cells

941
00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:40.559
<v Speaker 4>and cancer cells and gets rid of them. And it

942
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:44.599
<v Speaker 4>turns out that one of the things that dramatically increases

943
00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:49.360
<v Speaker 4>autopogy is fast. Really, the reasons why we see the

944
00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:51.840
<v Speaker 4>results in some of the tumor cases like lymphoem and whatnot,

945
00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:56.480
<v Speaker 4>maybe because increased autoplogy is one of the consequences of

946
00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:02.960
<v Speaker 4>excuse me faster, And so, for example, we published a

947
00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:05.400
<v Speaker 4>pace in the British Medical Journal on a woman with

948
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:09.199
<v Speaker 4>Flicker lymphoma type of lymph cancer was stage three confirmed

949
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:13.480
<v Speaker 4>by excisional biopsy. Her doctor told her that diet didn't matter,

950
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:15.480
<v Speaker 4>she'd eat whatever she wanted. Diet had nothing to do

951
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:20.079
<v Speaker 4>with the condition, that fasting was criminal quackery, but she

952
00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:21.920
<v Speaker 4>decided to come in and do a fast anyway. She

953
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:24.480
<v Speaker 4>fasted for twenty one days, during which time her tumors disappeared.

954
00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:28.239
<v Speaker 4>Couldn't find her tumors anymore, sent her back to oncologist

955
00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:30.639
<v Speaker 4>who examined her, and she said it was funny. He

956
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:33.239
<v Speaker 4>was examining her, but he couldn't find the tumors and

957
00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:34.960
<v Speaker 4>he looked at the chart. He looked at her and

958
00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:38.159
<v Speaker 4>he asked her finally what happened, and she said, well,

959
00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:40.000
<v Speaker 4>I went to the criminal quacks and I did the

960
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:43.119
<v Speaker 4>fasting and the tumors went away, and he said, oh my,

961
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:48.000
<v Speaker 4>you know. And so we followed this patient and at

962
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:50.719
<v Speaker 4>one year we published this case report in the British

963
00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:56.039
<v Speaker 4>Medical Journal on the reversal of lymphoma with fasting, and

964
00:53:56.079 --> 00:54:00.920
<v Speaker 4>then we followed her three years and ten years and

965
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:03.400
<v Speaker 4>she continues to be cancer free well. And then since

966
00:54:03.400 --> 00:54:05.440
<v Speaker 4>then we did what's called a KSE series. We had

967
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:07.679
<v Speaker 4>a series of patients with the limp foam, including somebody

968
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:12.360
<v Speaker 4>that had failed chemotherapy and had recurrent returned, another one

969
00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:15.280
<v Speaker 4>that had actually metastasizing you as bones was very severe,

970
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:18.000
<v Speaker 4>and all of them have done well. We publish this

971
00:54:18.239 --> 00:54:20.320
<v Speaker 4>case series, and now what we'd like to do as

972
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:23.039
<v Speaker 4>a clinical trial random assignment to condition half of them

973
00:54:23.079 --> 00:54:26.280
<v Speaker 4>divided into standard care where they stay sick, and half

974
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:28.039
<v Speaker 4>of them where they do fasting and diet and get well,

975
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:30.760
<v Speaker 4>and they compare them long term to see what's preferable.

976
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:34.280
<v Speaker 4>And so you know, part of that mechanism of what

977
00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:37.519
<v Speaker 4>we're seeing there is probably this increased autopogy that's associated

978
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:38.800
<v Speaker 4>with fasting and improved diet.

979
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:42.440
<v Speaker 1>What would be a maintenance level of fasting for sinescent

980
00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:44.320
<v Speaker 1>cell reduction or elimination.

981
00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:47.400
<v Speaker 4>So your constantly cells are constantly dying off, you're constantly

982
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:50.199
<v Speaker 4>forming cancer cells. If you managed to kill the cancer cells,

983
00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:52.119
<v Speaker 4>get rid of them faster than you form them, you

984
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:54.280
<v Speaker 4>stay healthy. If they've formed faster than you get rid

985
00:54:54.280 --> 00:54:55.760
<v Speaker 4>of me, you grow tumors, and then you get sick

986
00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:58.840
<v Speaker 4>and die. Right, so there's a several things you can

987
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:02.599
<v Speaker 4>do to improve your body natural atopogenic components. Number one

988
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:05.760
<v Speaker 4>is you can get enough sleep. Slip deprivation is immune suppressive.

989
00:55:06.119 --> 00:55:10.800
<v Speaker 4>Number two, you can avoid the chemicals that inhibit atophagy,

990
00:55:11.559 --> 00:55:14.039
<v Speaker 4>which includes most of the drugs that are given to people.

991
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:16.440
<v Speaker 4>Number three, you can go on a whole plant food

992
00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:19.400
<v Speaker 4>sus free diet, huge difference compared to a greasy, faty

993
00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:23.159
<v Speaker 4>SLIMI processed food diet. And number four you can use fasting.

994
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:29.199
<v Speaker 4>And I suggest people fast every day sixteen hours, so later,

995
00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:31.719
<v Speaker 4>don't eat three to four hours before you go to bed. Right,

996
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:33.800
<v Speaker 4>you'll get a twelve to sixteen hour fast every day.

997
00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:36.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, what would be the breakfast time, Well, you skip.

998
00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:38.960
<v Speaker 4>Bros, try to lose weight. We want to go sixteen hours.

999
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:41.079
<v Speaker 4>So let's say your dinner is at five or six o'clock.

1000
00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:44.480
<v Speaker 4>You don't eat again until maybe nine or ten o'clock

1001
00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:47.519
<v Speaker 4>the next day, okay, and before breakfast you get a

1002
00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:50.480
<v Speaker 4>chance maybe do some exercise preferentially mobilize your fat stores.

1003
00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:53.880
<v Speaker 4>And so if you're trying to gain weight or just stabilize.

1004
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:55.559
<v Speaker 4>Where you're a kid and you need to have more

1005
00:55:55.920 --> 00:55:57.840
<v Speaker 4>hours of eating, then what you would do is you

1006
00:55:57.920 --> 00:55:59.440
<v Speaker 4>do the same thing. You don't eat three to four

1007
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:00.800
<v Speaker 4>hours before you go to bet, but you might have

1008
00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:01.800
<v Speaker 4>an earlier breakfast.

1009
00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, And this is in essence of what you're suggesting,

1010
00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:12.159
<v Speaker 1>is this is doing a clean sweep of these sinessence cells.

1011
00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:15.400
<v Speaker 4>Well not just the SINESSA cells, but also all of

1012
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:17.559
<v Speaker 4>these immunological factors of the body as.

1013
00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:19.480
<v Speaker 1>The body needs to reveewerate.

1014
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:23.760
<v Speaker 4>Okay, that occasionally we would do a longer medically supervised

1015
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:26.159
<v Speaker 4>fast depending on the person. If they're healthy, we do

1016
00:56:26.280 --> 00:56:28.599
<v Speaker 4>relatively short fast five to ten days once a year.

1017
00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:30.840
<v Speaker 4>If they're sick, we do as long as it takes

1018
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:34.239
<v Speaker 4>up to forty days. However often it takes to get

1019
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:37.079
<v Speaker 4>the problems solved. For example, we had a dentist at

1020
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:38.840
<v Speaker 4>our facility. We talk about this in the book. She

1021
00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:41.400
<v Speaker 4>had been to a dental a conference that got hit

1022
00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:43.079
<v Speaker 4>in the head by a tent polar all right, I

1023
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:45.119
<v Speaker 4>read that one and God on dural tear and had

1024
00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:47.840
<v Speaker 4>constant daily headache for you know, eight out of ten

1025
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:49.960
<v Speaker 4>to ten out of ten every minute of every day

1026
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:53.400
<v Speaker 4>for sixteen years, was completely disabled around it. And she

1027
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:55.360
<v Speaker 4>came in and did a water only fast We faster

1028
00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:58.360
<v Speaker 4>forty one days the first time, and then we refet

1029
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:00.480
<v Speaker 4>her for six months and then did forty days is

1030
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:03.079
<v Speaker 4>the second time. And now it's been almost fifteen years.

1031
00:57:03.079 --> 00:57:05.480
<v Speaker 4>She has no headache. So she got a resolution after

1032
00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:09.920
<v Speaker 4>a life long of hell and probably because of the inflammation,

1033
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:12.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, negative inflammator effects of long term water only fasting.

1034
00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1035
00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:15.599
<v Speaker 4>So we treat a lot of people with chronic syphalgia,

1036
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:19.159
<v Speaker 4>chronic migraines. It's not just the fasting, but the fasting

1037
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:23.480
<v Speaker 4>the diet. We'll use therapies like manipular therapy, physical therapy, exercise,

1038
00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:25.960
<v Speaker 4>and you know, large percentage of these people that we

1039
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:28.599
<v Speaker 4>see and these are the chronic chronics, are able to

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<v Speaker 4>get well. Thank goodness, because I mean, if you put

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00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:32.599
<v Speaker 4>people through the hell we put people through with diet

1042
00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:35.800
<v Speaker 4>change and exercise and having to fast, if you didn't

1043
00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:37.400
<v Speaker 4>get good results, I'm telling you they get in, alum

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<v Speaker 4>in a baseball bat, they beat your head in.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you have a sense of humor about this,

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00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:46.639
<v Speaker 1>because we're making a challenge. Let's talk real briefly, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I want to move on. I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about another condition that is a mainstay of allopathic medicine,

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00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:57.800
<v Speaker 1>and this is hypertension. And high blood pressure is a

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00:57:57.800 --> 00:58:00.280
<v Speaker 1>a condition that people seem to get at all ages,

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00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:04.000
<v Speaker 1>but most likely most prominently in their fifties and sixties,

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00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:08.679
<v Speaker 1>and the medication for this is just deadly. Talk about

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00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:12.519
<v Speaker 1>the FAST and how to reduce hypertension.

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00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:15.599
<v Speaker 4>Well, hypertension is great because the drugs cause chronic coff,

1055
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:19.000
<v Speaker 4>the tee impotence, and premature deaths. The drugs are so dangerous,

1056
00:58:19.039 --> 00:58:20.440
<v Speaker 4>in fact, they won't give them to you until your

1057
00:58:20.440 --> 00:58:22.639
<v Speaker 4>blood pressure is quite high. Yes, it seems to be

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00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:24.800
<v Speaker 4>so high that the risk of dying from the stroke

1059
00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:28.360
<v Speaker 4>is at reduction from blood pressure that its outweighs the

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00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:31.199
<v Speaker 4>increased death rate from taking the drugs. Fifty percent of

1061
00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:32.840
<v Speaker 4>people won't take the drugs because they don't like the

1062
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:35.679
<v Speaker 4>chronic coff, the tea, infetits, and other side effects. The

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00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:38.800
<v Speaker 4>good news is, as I mentioned earlier, virtually everybody with

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00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:42.440
<v Speaker 4>essentral hypertension normalist is their blood pressure with FAST. So

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00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:44.559
<v Speaker 4>we've had hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of patients and

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00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:46.599
<v Speaker 4>in fact we hade hundreds of patients who documented and

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00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:51.159
<v Speaker 4>research studies. Of the twenty five thousand people that we've threated,

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00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:54.320
<v Speaker 4>we've probably had close to ten thousand people with elevated

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00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:54.840
<v Speaker 4>blood pressure.

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00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:56.800
<v Speaker 1>So it's a high percentage of your patient.

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00:58:56.880 --> 00:58:58.840
<v Speaker 4>Sixty two percent of all of the population you have

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00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:02.719
<v Speaker 4>high bloo pressure by the time reach sixty right, okay,

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00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:05.039
<v Speaker 4>So and you know, a significan percent even as young

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00:59:05.079 --> 00:59:09.039
<v Speaker 4>as twenty five now significant percentage of people hypertension. So

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00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:12.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's it's ubiquitous because of the greasy, fatty,

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00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:16.360
<v Speaker 4>high salt diets. When you feed people, and essentially all

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00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:19.239
<v Speaker 4>of those people will normalize their blood pressure if they're

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00:59:19.239 --> 00:59:20.760
<v Speaker 4>willing to do the fast, and then if they're willing

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00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:22.719
<v Speaker 4>to stick on the diet, they can usually maintain it.

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00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:25.400
<v Speaker 4>In fact, you know they'll come in two twenty over

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00:59:25.440 --> 00:59:28.199
<v Speaker 4>one twenty capped on medications and still normalize their pressure

1082
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:31.679
<v Speaker 4>eliminate the needs for drugs. It's unbelievably how consistent blood

1083
00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:34.920
<v Speaker 4>pressure is. It's just one of the most responsive conditions,

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00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:36.639
<v Speaker 4>and we've published the most papers on it. If you

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00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:39.440
<v Speaker 4>go to our website tunorthout dot com, you can see

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00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:43.960
<v Speaker 4>all of the papers we publish different studies, including prospective studies. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>as I mentioned, we did a paper with our colleague

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00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:48.159
<v Speaker 4>at the Mail Clinic and they's been published in per

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00:59:48.280 --> 00:59:51.880
<v Speaker 4>view journals. There's no question it works. The problem is

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00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:54.599
<v Speaker 4>not everybody wants to take time off and fast. Not

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00:59:54.639 --> 00:59:57.320
<v Speaker 4>everybody wants to make diet lifestyle changes. It's just like

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00:59:57.320 --> 00:59:59.960
<v Speaker 4>if you go up to your people, you know their alcohol,

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01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:01.840
<v Speaker 4>and you say, hey, you know how your life sucks.

1094
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:04.320
<v Speaker 4>It's because of the booze. They don't go, oh, it's

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01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:08.719
<v Speaker 4>the alcohol. I had no idea. Oh, thank you so much.

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01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:11.679
<v Speaker 4>I just won't drink anymore. It's tell you to mind

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01:00:11.719 --> 01:00:13.679
<v Speaker 4>your own f and business because you know they don't

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01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:15.599
<v Speaker 4>want to hear it. And that's true with blood pressure.

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<v Speaker 4>If you drop up to a patient with the high

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01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:19.840
<v Speaker 4>blood pressure and say, look, you can completely normalize your

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01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:23.840
<v Speaker 4>blood pressure, eliminate the medications and these side effects and

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01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:27.000
<v Speaker 4>just cut that completely out of your life, It's like, oh, great,

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01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:29.880
<v Speaker 4>what do I have to do? Well, you have to

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01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:33.000
<v Speaker 4>get enough rest, you have to do moderate exercise, and

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01:00:33.039 --> 01:00:36.719
<v Speaker 4>you have to eat a whole plant food sus free diet. No, no, no,

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01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:39.039
<v Speaker 4>I could never do that. Give up my boke and

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01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:42.119
<v Speaker 4>my coffee and my alcohol and my pot and my

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01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:46.039
<v Speaker 4>you know, processed foods and my No then no, no,

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01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:47.480
<v Speaker 4>it's not possi.

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<v Speaker 1>That we're going to take a brief break to allow

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01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:56.840
<v Speaker 1>our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly

1112
01:00:56.880 --> 01:01:01.360
<v Speaker 1>with my guest today, Alan gold Hammer, discussing his new book,

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01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:13.719
<v Speaker 1>Can Fasting Save Your Life?

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<v Speaker 4>M Wild.

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<v Speaker 1>All the memories are on replay. I read for you.

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01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:39.000
<v Speaker 4>Bunch a thousands of miles away, ever re hardy ever

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01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:42.559
<v Speaker 4>read fields thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>My guest today is doctor Alan Goldhammer, the director of

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01:01:49.039 --> 01:01:52.519
<v Speaker 1>True North Health Clinic, and he's describing some of the

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01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:59.519
<v Speaker 1>techniques that they use for water fasting here in northern California.

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01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Talk real briefly, Alan about what you call refeeding, which

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01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:12.320
<v Speaker 1>is the beginning to eat food following along diet fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, this is critical, isn't it, Because if you

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01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:17.679
<v Speaker 1>start eating the crap that you were eating before, you're

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<v Speaker 1>just going to throw the whole thing into reverse.

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01:02:19.559 --> 01:02:21.880
<v Speaker 4>Well, not only in reverse, can actually create what's called

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01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:25.639
<v Speaker 4>post fastening, a demo or even potentially fatal refeeding syndrome.

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<v Speaker 1>Give us a sample of what you would suggest to

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01:02:28.440 --> 01:02:32.320
<v Speaker 1>somebody to say who just came off of two weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>So two week fast. Just here's the general rules, and

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01:02:34.360 --> 01:02:35.960
<v Speaker 4>we talked about this in the book Can Fasten and

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01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:37.679
<v Speaker 4>Save Your Life as a whole. You know, it's all

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01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:42.800
<v Speaker 4>laid out, but it takes about one day of juice

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01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:44.599
<v Speaker 4>for every week of fasting, one day of raw food

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01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:46.679
<v Speaker 4>for every week of fasting, and one day of steam

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01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:49.000
<v Speaker 4>starts your food. So two week fast, we know it's

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01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:51.800
<v Speaker 4>going to take seven days to recover from that. The

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01:02:51.840 --> 01:02:53.719
<v Speaker 4>first day or two is going to be fresh vegetable

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01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:56.559
<v Speaker 4>based juices and broth. Then we're going to introduce raw

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01:02:56.599 --> 01:02:59.119
<v Speaker 4>fruit and vegetables. Then we're going to introduce some steam

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01:02:59.199 --> 01:03:01.679
<v Speaker 4>vegetables in addition to the raw for vegetables. Then we're

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01:03:01.679 --> 01:03:04.039
<v Speaker 4>going to introduce some starchy vegetables. So by the day seven,

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01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:06.360
<v Speaker 4>you're going to be an exclusively whole plant food ass

1144
01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:10.639
<v Speaker 4>free diet. And if you do that properly, you avoid

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01:03:10.719 --> 01:03:13.239
<v Speaker 4>all of the problems of twenty five thousand people. We've

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01:03:13.280 --> 01:03:15.880
<v Speaker 4>never had refeting syndrome.

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01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:18.400
<v Speaker 1>What is refeeding syndrome.

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01:03:18.039 --> 01:03:21.880
<v Speaker 4>Where electro white balance can become O you refinek into

1149
01:03:21.920 --> 01:03:24.400
<v Speaker 4>cardiac arrass and death. So your blood, your blood shirt

1150
01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:27.440
<v Speaker 4>look reft too quickly. They saw a lot of problems

1151
01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:30.679
<v Speaker 4>in World War two, and they elaborate bread people from

1152
01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:32.960
<v Speaker 4>the concentration camps and they try to build them up

1153
01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:34.760
<v Speaker 4>too quickly, and then they end up killing some people

1154
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:37.239
<v Speaker 4>and creating problems. So you have to kind of come

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01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:39.280
<v Speaker 4>off of it slowly and get really sick otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's why we advocate when you're going to fast,

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01:03:43.559 --> 01:03:45.199
<v Speaker 4>you got to do it right or you end up

1159
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:47.559
<v Speaker 4>with a mess. The horror stories you hear are always

1160
01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:51.119
<v Speaker 4>people that just maybe didn't understand, you know, the principles

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01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:53.679
<v Speaker 4>are fasting. That's why we wrote this book.

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01:03:54.039 --> 01:03:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's great, and that's a very big key. And

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01:03:57.119 --> 01:03:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I've always been taught that the returning to the food

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01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:03.599
<v Speaker 1>is just as important as the fact more important.

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01:04:03.599 --> 01:04:05.559
<v Speaker 4>I think that's the key. That's where people make the

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01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:08.559
<v Speaker 4>mistakes really fast. Okay, it's they oh, if they're gonna

1167
01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:11.199
<v Speaker 4>screw it up, it's they screwed up with the refeeding.

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01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Because you can reintroduce the wrong foods too soon and just.

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01:04:14.719 --> 01:04:16.559
<v Speaker 4>Be and you know, people are coming off of fast

1170
01:04:16.599 --> 01:04:18.079
<v Speaker 4>and the brain is saying, hey, let's get to it,

1171
01:04:18.119 --> 01:04:20.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, let's go the other way and the people

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01:04:20.800 --> 01:04:22.280
<v Speaker 4>that have the most trouble, the very people that have

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01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:24.519
<v Speaker 4>the most trouble giving up those foods anyway, because their addicts.

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<v Speaker 4>To begin with, people don't like to think of themselves

1175
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:29.320
<v Speaker 4>as addictive, but they are. They're addicted to the artificial

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01:04:29.360 --> 01:04:31.800
<v Speaker 4>stimulation of doping in their brain from the chemicals. Whether

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01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:35.639
<v Speaker 4>it's alcohol, cocaine, methamphetamines, or salt, oil and sugar. They

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01:04:35.679 --> 01:04:38.880
<v Speaker 4>all work on the same pathways. Now, granted, you know

1179
01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:40.760
<v Speaker 4>there are also a lot of these are white powders

1180
01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:44.639
<v Speaker 4>to you notice that, like cocaine, like sugar, there's a

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01:04:44.639 --> 01:04:46.159
<v Speaker 4>lot of these salt. You know, a lot of these

1182
01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:48.159
<v Speaker 4>white powders. You got to watch out for white powders.

1183
01:04:48.199 --> 01:04:48.920
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying.

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01:04:52.039 --> 01:04:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Talk briefly about uh emeo uh compromise people people who

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01:04:57.280 --> 01:05:00.239
<v Speaker 1>have immunity problems. I read a little bit of your

1186
01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:03.599
<v Speaker 1>book at fasting is just a huge benefit to kickstart

1187
01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:05.119
<v Speaker 1>the humanity Tuckay.

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01:05:05.159 --> 01:05:07.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what's really remarkable. A lot of people that we

1189
01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:10.239
<v Speaker 4>come in and have suppressed immune responses, usually from the

1190
01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:14.239
<v Speaker 4>medications given to treat autoimmune diseases, or they have HIV

1191
01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:17.840
<v Speaker 4>and they've been on you know, disease modifying medications, and

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01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:21.000
<v Speaker 4>these patients often do dramatically better. You'll see objective changes

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01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:24.320
<v Speaker 4>in their white counts in their acute phase, erectro proteins

1194
01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:27.119
<v Speaker 4>go down. There's a lot of research that we've cited

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01:05:27.159 --> 01:05:30.639
<v Speaker 4>and we're doing now to objectify objectively the change that

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01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:33.559
<v Speaker 4>occur with fasting there, and it is really quite impressive.

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01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:38.280
<v Speaker 4>And that's why what's happened now is Falter Longo did

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01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:41.360
<v Speaker 4>some intertween research. They had rats that they had induced cancer,

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01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:43.880
<v Speaker 4>and so these are genetically bred rats two separate groups.

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01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:46.480
<v Speaker 4>With the first group, they would give them enough chemotherapy

1201
01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:48.400
<v Speaker 4>to kill all the cancer cells, but unfortunately all the

1202
01:05:48.480 --> 01:05:51.000
<v Speaker 4>rats would die from poisoning from the chemotherapy. It's right,

1203
01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:53.559
<v Speaker 4>therapy is pretty poisonous, but you have to kill all

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01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:56.480
<v Speaker 4>the cancer cells that it comes back. So then they

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01:05:56.480 --> 01:05:59.039
<v Speaker 4>took the same rats with the same cancer and the

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01:05:59.119 --> 01:06:02.199
<v Speaker 4>same chemotherapy, but the faster the rats before and after treatment,

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01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:07.000
<v Speaker 4>all thirty routes survive dramatically, enhancing cancer free survival. And

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01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:10.880
<v Speaker 4>the reason is of something called differential stress sensitization and

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01:06:10.960 --> 01:06:13.920
<v Speaker 4>differential stress sensitivity. It turns out in the fasting state,

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01:06:14.679 --> 01:06:18.199
<v Speaker 4>cancer cells have a biological disadvantage. Cancer cells have higher

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01:06:18.239 --> 01:06:21.159
<v Speaker 4>metabolic rates. They don't do well in a ketogenic environment.

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01:06:21.400 --> 01:06:25.320
<v Speaker 4>In a fat based environment, their primary philosophy glucose, so

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01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:27.440
<v Speaker 4>when you put them in a fat based environment, they

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01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:30.559
<v Speaker 4>have a selective disadvantage. But the human cells and the

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01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:33.960
<v Speaker 4>immune cells have an advantage because fastenings a biological adaptation.

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<v Speaker 4>They do fine in the suppressed in the low glucose state,

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01:06:37.760 --> 01:06:39.880
<v Speaker 4>they do fine in the high ketone state, and so

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01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:42.039
<v Speaker 4>it gives them a chance for the chemotherapy to be

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01:06:42.039 --> 01:06:44.599
<v Speaker 4>more effective. It also protects the healthy cells from the

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01:06:44.679 --> 01:06:48.360
<v Speaker 4>damaging effects of chemotherapy. And so as soon as Walter

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01:06:48.599 --> 01:06:51.920
<v Speaker 4>Longo published that paper, the pharmaceutical companies went, oh wait

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01:06:51.960 --> 01:06:55.599
<v Speaker 4>a second, fasting is doing something to the body to

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01:06:55.639 --> 01:06:59.639
<v Speaker 4>make our therapy work better. Fasting transformed from being criminal

1224
01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:03.920
<v Speaker 4>quack to cutting edge research, and now they're desperately trying

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01:07:03.960 --> 01:07:07.119
<v Speaker 4>to come up with what we're called fasting mimicking drugs.

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01:07:08.199 --> 01:07:10.400
<v Speaker 4>So they want drugs that will do to the body

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01:07:10.440 --> 01:07:13.320
<v Speaker 4>what fasting does, but without that nasty fasting, and in

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01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:16.679
<v Speaker 4>a form that they can sell. Oh my god, it's

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01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:19.000
<v Speaker 4>been great because now that all this research going on,

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01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:21.440
<v Speaker 4>how is the fasting doing that so that they can

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01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:24.000
<v Speaker 4>reproduce it and sell you a drug to do it

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01:07:24.079 --> 01:07:25.360
<v Speaker 4>better and make more money.

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<v Speaker 1>That shows the pharmaceutical companies are running the show there.

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01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:31.119
<v Speaker 4>The pharmaceutical companies are doing better than ever before if

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01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:33.599
<v Speaker 4>you look at like just who's making the most money.

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01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:36.239
<v Speaker 4>And again they've got this model. Now, don't give you

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01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:39.159
<v Speaker 4>antibiotics for ten days and then you're better. No, no, no, no,

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01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:42.119
<v Speaker 4>You do this drug and you'll be on misdrunic the

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01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:45.239
<v Speaker 4>rest of your life. You can't stop it ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's terrible, Alan, I want to do it.

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01:07:49.320 --> 01:07:54.159
<v Speaker 1>For instance, you've been your doctors and you've been complaining

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01:07:54.239 --> 01:07:57.800
<v Speaker 1>about a sore hip no excuse me, a sore stomach,

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<v Speaker 1>and the doctor is just giving you the news that

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<v Speaker 1>you have stage two cancer. What would you do?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, there's two things you do. First of all, you

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<v Speaker 4>get properly worked up. You go to the latest, greatest

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<v Speaker 4>oncologists and you ask them in a very important question,

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<v Speaker 4>are there any therapies like ammuno therapies or whatever that

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<v Speaker 4>are appropriate for me? And can you share them with

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<v Speaker 4>me any information that if I do those therapies I

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<v Speaker 4>might live longer or better. So that's number one. Okay,

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01:08:26.239 --> 01:08:28.520
<v Speaker 4>so you're all worked up, you have good evaluation, You

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<v Speaker 4>look at your medical options, and then in addition, you say,

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<v Speaker 4>what do I have to do to get healthier? Boost

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<v Speaker 4>my immune system in order to ad to give the

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<v Speaker 4>body a chance to fight off the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the outpath's not going to be able to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that.

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, you're going to go to a different kind

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<v Speaker 4>of doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, go to a Chinese medical doctor.

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<v Speaker 4>If you come to the that are, you go to

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<v Speaker 4>one of our telemedicine doctors and will help you evaluate.

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<v Speaker 4>And we have some medical doctors that are unique because

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<v Speaker 4>they're not idiots. I know that's hard to believe. Nobody

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<v Speaker 4>ever believes those people exist, but they're like unicorns. And

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<v Speaker 4>so or you go to lifestyle medicine doctors. The doctors

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<v Speaker 4>out now they're interested in trying to help you get healthy.

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<v Speaker 4>And so then you're gonna look at diets, sleep and

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01:09:05.560 --> 01:09:07.800
<v Speaker 4>exercise and then see whether or not maybe fasting might

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<v Speaker 4>help speed the process up. So you look at your

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<v Speaker 4>medical options, you get fully informed. Some forms of cancer,

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<v Speaker 4>for example, there are like immunotherapy options that are maybe

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<v Speaker 4>helpful and people might live longer and better if they

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<v Speaker 4>do it than if they don't. There's other types of

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<v Speaker 4>cancer that it's hard to find medical evidence that people

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01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:28.760
<v Speaker 4>are living longer better a lot of the more common cancers.

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<v Speaker 4>And you can read The Emperor of All Maladies by Mukaraji,

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01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:34.760
<v Speaker 4>who got the Poetzer Prize for his book on the

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<v Speaker 4>history of cancer and its treatment and you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>he goes through and talks about, you know, medical treatment

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01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:42.039
<v Speaker 4>and the limitations and do people live longer or not?

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<v Speaker 4>And it's sometimes a little shocking and disappointing to find

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01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:47.920
<v Speaker 4>out how in effect of many of these very aggressive

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01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:52.399
<v Speaker 4>and expensive and devastating treatments are. But that's the basic

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01:09:52.479 --> 01:09:54.600
<v Speaker 4>model is first find out is there any medical treatment

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01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:57.680
<v Speaker 4>that actually is shown to be helpful, See whether that's relevant,

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<v Speaker 4>See what you can do with diet and lifestyle change,

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<v Speaker 4>and then consider whether fasting might have some utility for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think fasting would be just a way to

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<v Speaker 1>reorganize the physiology of the body which is fighting the cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't that be a problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Because fasting is a way to reorganize the physiology of

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<v Speaker 4>the body and help improve the it's just when it's

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<v Speaker 4>fighting the cancer. Yeah, but it's important for us that

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<v Speaker 4>people be worked out first, though, because then we can

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<v Speaker 4>take full credit when they get resolution. If these patients

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<v Speaker 4>that we couldn't publish these case reports, if we didn't

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<v Speaker 4>have good objective baselines, and then when they get well,

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01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:37.039
<v Speaker 4>we can rub their success in their our college's face,

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<v Speaker 4>which is the fun part.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean I have a lot of friends that

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<v Speaker 1>are all a pass and my grandfather was an alopathic doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think of the new I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say byproduct, but it's called functional medicine where they're

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<v Speaker 1>actually I have doc friends that are actually taking credentials

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<v Speaker 1>to add this to their practice, and I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>some positive space.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, I just came from doing the continuing ed

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01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:05.039
<v Speaker 4>seminar I contribu so you did in Los Angeles to

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<v Speaker 4>the lastile Medicine. They had, you know, one hundred of

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<v Speaker 4>the plantation group. They have hundreds of doctors. I've spoken

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01:11:09.760 --> 01:11:12.520
<v Speaker 4>to many of these conferences and I'm usually the odd

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01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:15.800
<v Speaker 4>person out because I'm not a medical doctor and they're

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01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:19.199
<v Speaker 4>virtually all medical doctors. But as a chiropractor, you know,

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01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:22.600
<v Speaker 4>it's always fine going in and pissing everybody off, you know,

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01:11:22.760 --> 01:11:25.239
<v Speaker 4>just having the wrong credentials, in the wrong background, on

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01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:27.000
<v Speaker 4>the wrong training, and saying the wrong things. But the

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<v Speaker 4>reality is this is what works. Diet, sleep, exercise, and fasting.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what actually works. And the lifestyle medicine doctors understand that,

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01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:36.439
<v Speaker 4>and they're trying to implement in their practice. But they

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<v Speaker 4>tell me their biggest frustration is it's hard to find

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<v Speaker 4>patients willing to make those lifestyle changes. It's like asking

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<v Speaker 4>a person to quit smoking. People don't want to quit smoking.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's a different animal.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't want to quit drinking, and they and they

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01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:51.439
<v Speaker 4>certainly don't want to give up all their highly processed foes,

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<v Speaker 4>their addicts, and they don't want to give it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Even with a really detrimental diagnosis.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, do you think smokers don't know that they're going

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<v Speaker 4>to start coughing up chunks their lung at some point? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Are they shocked? Oh my god, it's not good for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought it was good to call my nerves, which

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<v Speaker 4>is what their medical doctor might have started, you know,

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01:12:13.279 --> 01:12:16.720
<v Speaker 4>told them when they first started smoking forty years ago. No,

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<v Speaker 4>they know it's not good for him. Drinking, You think

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<v Speaker 4>most drunks are thinking, oh, I'm taking it for the

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01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:24.439
<v Speaker 4>big wirenment. You know, it's like, you know, no, they

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01:12:24.479 --> 01:12:26.319
<v Speaker 4>know it's not good for him. And do you think

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01:12:26.359 --> 01:12:29.720
<v Speaker 4>people munching down on that greasy, fatty, slimy process food

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01:12:29.760 --> 01:12:32.720
<v Speaker 4>don't think that they're probably not doing themselves any favor.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they know, but it's hard to quit when

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<v Speaker 4>you're an ad.

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<v Speaker 1>Itt Well, Tolly, you didn't answer my question. You talked

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01:12:38.600 --> 01:12:41.279
<v Speaker 1>about other types of medicine, but are you familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>this new credential that only alapas can get called functional medicine.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the functional medicine is really displacing highly toxic allopathic

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<v Speaker 4>drugs for pills, potions, and powders of another color. Mostly.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, So I really advocate the plantition people the

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01:12:57.239 --> 01:12:59.800
<v Speaker 4>lifestyle medicine because they're focusing on that and lifstyle functional

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01:12:59.800 --> 01:13:03.000
<v Speaker 4>meta doctors are doing. You know, here's the thing. Something

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01:13:03.039 --> 01:13:04.840
<v Speaker 4>that's way less bad doesn't mean it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're saying, and I haven't looked at it as

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01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:11.920
<v Speaker 1>closely as you have. They're still advocating drugs.

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<v Speaker 4>It's mostly still seeing things from a deficiency model, which pill,

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<v Speaker 4>potion or powers.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, they're not looking at the holistic views.

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<v Speaker 4>Have some functional messad doctors do a great job. You're

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<v Speaker 4>including diet lifestyle issue and there are okay, so, but

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<v Speaker 4>functional medicine and lifestyle medicine are different. Lifestyle is changing

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<v Speaker 4>the lifestyle, Functional is changing the chemistry using less toxic substances.

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<v Speaker 4>That's my gross oversimplication, oversimplification. I'm sure i'll get some

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01:13:35.880 --> 01:13:38.279
<v Speaker 4>nasty letters from functional messa doctors say oh no, we're

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<v Speaker 4>we're doing much more than just that.

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<v Speaker 1>But well, it's funny because you said you were down

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<v Speaker 1>in LA with lifetocks. What's the metaline doctors?

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<v Speaker 4>The ones that invite me are usually the lifestyle medicine

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<v Speaker 4>doctors that are advocating diet and lifestyle change. Functional medicine

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01:13:55.479 --> 01:13:57.960
<v Speaker 4>doctors are usually the ones that will be You'll have

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<v Speaker 4>definitely bland there who says, you know, don't do fasting

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<v Speaker 4>because it's too dangerous unless you take their proprietary products.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, then it's okay. So I'll tell you how

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01:14:07.359 --> 01:14:10.920
<v Speaker 4>I think. I evaluate other scientists' intelligence based on how

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01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:13.920
<v Speaker 4>much they agree with me. So when Walter Longo published

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01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:16.079
<v Speaker 4>his book and said don't do long turn and fasting

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01:14:16.399 --> 01:14:18.279
<v Speaker 4>unless you do it at the Tune North Health Center,

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<v Speaker 4>I said, hey, This guy's a genius. You know, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Funny, so funny. The book's called Ken Fasting You Save

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01:14:26.359 --> 01:14:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Your Life. My guest today has been doctor Allan Goldhammer.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you what is a supervised fast?

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<v Speaker 1>Give us the overview when somebody wants to look at

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01:14:37.479 --> 01:14:38.079
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, so a supervised fast, whether you're doing it at

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01:14:40.279 --> 01:14:43.239
<v Speaker 4>home or at the Tuneuth Health Center, a doctor will

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01:14:43.279 --> 01:14:45.279
<v Speaker 4>review your history, examine lab to make sure you're a

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01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:47.800
<v Speaker 4>good candidate for fasting. There's no country indication to help you.

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<v Speaker 4>Wean off mat it's all that stuff. And then at

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01:14:50.479 --> 01:14:52.920
<v Speaker 4>this tune North Health Center or at home, there's going

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01:14:52.960 --> 01:14:54.960
<v Speaker 4>to be at the Turn of Thought Center, our doctor

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01:14:55.039 --> 01:14:57.319
<v Speaker 4>see patients twice a day. We collect vitals, we answer

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01:14:57.359 --> 01:15:00.399
<v Speaker 4>their questions, make sure they're doing okay, do appropriate lab testing,

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01:15:00.439 --> 01:15:02.960
<v Speaker 4>blend and urine testing, and then we provide We call

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01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:05.960
<v Speaker 4>it education. It's actually kind of brainwashing. But it's classes

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01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:08.119
<v Speaker 4>and videos and all kinds of stuff so that when

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01:15:08.119 --> 01:15:10.920
<v Speaker 4>people go home they have the skill sets needed to

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01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:13.479
<v Speaker 4>be successful. But even if a person's fasting at home,

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01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:17.199
<v Speaker 4>we offer live streaming of all of our classes. I

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01:15:17.279 --> 01:15:19.479
<v Speaker 4>wonder if people can freely see they don't need to

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01:15:19.560 --> 01:15:21.800
<v Speaker 4>pay anything. They just go to our website. Anybody that

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01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:24.159
<v Speaker 4>wants to watch our classes can do that. We have

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01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:26.920
<v Speaker 4>a Roku channel with a lot of video that's all free.

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01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:29.640
<v Speaker 4>They can watch the video. So even if they're doing

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01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:32.119
<v Speaker 4>at home, they can still get the education just by

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01:15:32.279 --> 01:15:34.439
<v Speaker 4>going through our website. But they still need to have

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01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:37.000
<v Speaker 4>and then our doctors will provide remote support to them

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01:15:37.039 --> 01:15:39.199
<v Speaker 4>if they're doing it at home or obviously if they're

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01:15:39.239 --> 01:15:41.239
<v Speaker 4>the center, we're able to hold their hand go through

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01:15:41.239 --> 01:15:44.760
<v Speaker 4>the reefeeding process carefully. There's also companies like Whole Harvest

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<v Speaker 4>Now that are out there making SOS free foods available

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01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:49.720
<v Speaker 4>that they can deliver for people that haven't moved up

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01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:53.479
<v Speaker 4>to learning curve on the food. There's also well your World,

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01:15:54.119 --> 01:15:56.600
<v Speaker 4>there's leaf Side, so there's a number of companies offering

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01:15:56.680 --> 01:16:00.279
<v Speaker 4>SOS free options now, which is great. So we're I

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01:16:00.359 --> 01:16:02.880
<v Speaker 4>just want to mention no to your listeners. We offer

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01:16:02.920 --> 01:16:05.760
<v Speaker 4>a free service that they might be interested in. If

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01:16:05.800 --> 01:16:08.119
<v Speaker 4>they go to our website at tuneoorthhealth dot com and

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01:16:08.159 --> 01:16:10.920
<v Speaker 4>fill out their registration forms, I will review their medical

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01:16:10.960 --> 01:16:13.840
<v Speaker 4>history and offer them a phone conversation for free.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh dude, watch out they're.

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<v Speaker 4>A candidate for fasting, point them in the direction maybe

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01:16:18.880 --> 01:16:20.520
<v Speaker 4>of a doctor that might be able to help them.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no cost for that, and I would be happy

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01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:25.680
<v Speaker 4>to talk to them if they go to the website

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01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:27.399
<v Speaker 4>and fill out the forums first, because it allows me

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01:16:27.439 --> 01:16:29.840
<v Speaker 4>to efficiently review their medical history, make sure that they

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01:16:29.840 --> 01:16:32.560
<v Speaker 4>don't do something stupid, and you know, maybe they need

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01:16:32.600 --> 01:16:34.359
<v Speaker 4>to do a modified version of it or something. We

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01:16:34.399 --> 01:16:36.520
<v Speaker 4>can certainly give them that advice. If they are at

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01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:39.199
<v Speaker 4>the candidate, I can either hook them up with a

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01:16:39.239 --> 01:16:41.560
<v Speaker 4>telemedicine person or try to refer them to somebody that

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01:16:41.640 --> 01:16:43.880
<v Speaker 4>might be helpful to them closer to where they are,

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<v Speaker 4>or if they decide they want to come to the center,

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01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:47.720
<v Speaker 4>that's fine. We're happy to lock them up. But you know,

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01:16:47.960 --> 01:16:50.079
<v Speaker 4>that service is nice because they can at least get

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01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:52.920
<v Speaker 4>their fundamental questions answered. Obviously, I would like them if

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<v Speaker 4>they can read our book Can Fast and Save Your Life.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a great thing. It has a lot of information

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<v Speaker 4>in there. But at least they have a way to

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01:16:59.039 --> 01:17:02.880
<v Speaker 4>get up their personal questions answered where an email. They

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01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:04.680
<v Speaker 4>can email me as well. I'm happy to you know,

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01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:07.880
<v Speaker 4>I try to answer all those emails in a timely manner.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're very very generous alan to take all

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<v Speaker 1>the oh.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, my pleasure. That's what I do, though, is try

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01:17:16.840 --> 01:17:19.560
<v Speaker 4>to provide the generalification. I do this kind of these

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01:17:19.600 --> 01:17:21.359
<v Speaker 4>podcasts and this kind of stuff. That's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you for that. That's fantastic. Finally, who did

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01:17:28.520 --> 01:17:30.279
<v Speaker 1>you write the book for? I mean, was it kind

1449
01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:33.199
<v Speaker 1>of just your history because you have forty years behind

1450
01:17:33.279 --> 01:17:34.760
<v Speaker 1>this clinic? But who did the book?

1451
01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:36.920
<v Speaker 4>Who is the target? Was the person that was thinking

1452
01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:38.800
<v Speaker 4>about they want to know about fast and should they

1453
01:17:38.800 --> 01:17:41.520
<v Speaker 4>fast and how would they do that right? And also

1454
01:17:41.680 --> 01:17:44.239
<v Speaker 4>their doctor because if they go to their doctor and

1455
01:17:44.279 --> 01:17:45.600
<v Speaker 4>say I want to do it fast, many of the

1456
01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:47.960
<v Speaker 4>doctors would say, well, you're just crazy. We're gonna you know,

1457
01:17:48.119 --> 01:17:50.840
<v Speaker 4>it's ridiculous. But if they read this book it's so

1458
01:17:51.039 --> 01:17:53.319
<v Speaker 4>based well, as you saw, it's really based on the

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01:17:53.319 --> 01:17:55.920
<v Speaker 4>twenty two papers we published in the periity literature, most

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01:17:55.920 --> 01:17:59.119
<v Speaker 4>doctors will think, oh, maybe this isn't actually crazy. There

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01:17:59.159 --> 01:18:01.319
<v Speaker 4>looks like there might be something to it. Okay, if

1462
01:18:01.359 --> 01:18:03.199
<v Speaker 4>you're going to do it, here's the parameters we need

1463
01:18:03.239 --> 01:18:05.880
<v Speaker 4>to make sure you do it safely. Okay. So it

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01:18:05.960 --> 01:18:08.239
<v Speaker 4>was written for the patient but also for their doctor

1465
01:18:08.600 --> 01:18:10.479
<v Speaker 4>so that if somebody was going to because white problems.

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01:18:10.479 --> 01:18:13.039
<v Speaker 4>I get calls from people, well intentioned people that are

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01:18:13.079 --> 01:18:15.119
<v Speaker 4>trying to do fasting and they totally f it up,

1468
01:18:15.600 --> 01:18:18.399
<v Speaker 4>and so they create a mass unnecessarily and it just

1469
01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:20.720
<v Speaker 4>sometimes they didn't understand they had to rest when they're faster.

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01:18:21.199 --> 01:18:23.560
<v Speaker 4>They can't be driving to work, there can't be can't

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01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:25.800
<v Speaker 4>do so they can't take the igroprof and there's a

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01:18:25.800 --> 01:18:28.920
<v Speaker 4>different way to deal with it. And so we wanted

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01:18:28.920 --> 01:18:30.800
<v Speaker 4>to make sure those people that were trying to do

1474
01:18:30.840 --> 01:18:33.319
<v Speaker 4>the right thing, but you know, we're having serious problems,

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01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:35.880
<v Speaker 4>and that fasting didn't get made to look bad even

1476
01:18:35.880 --> 01:18:38.119
<v Speaker 4>when it isn't bad, it's a good thing. And also

1477
01:18:38.159 --> 01:18:40.000
<v Speaker 4>so that physicians would be able to see it. And

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01:18:40.039 --> 01:18:43.079
<v Speaker 4>what we found is many doctors once they see somebody

1479
01:18:43.119 --> 01:18:46.000
<v Speaker 4>get well, sometimes it's the only time in their practice

1480
01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:48.760
<v Speaker 4>they've ever seen anybody get well, and then they get

1481
01:18:48.760 --> 01:18:50.560
<v Speaker 4>all enthused about it, and many of them actually come

1482
01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:52.399
<v Speaker 4>in as patients and they do it fast at the center.

1483
01:18:52.720 --> 01:18:56.159
<v Speaker 4>And now we've added people to our base physicians that

1484
01:18:56.199 --> 01:19:00.680
<v Speaker 4>are now enthusiastic supporters because they've seen, oh, people can

1485
01:19:00.760 --> 01:19:02.920
<v Speaker 4>get well with that. I just saw a cardiologist who

1486
01:19:02.960 --> 01:19:05.119
<v Speaker 4>told me the biggest frustration he's had is he has

1487
01:19:05.159 --> 01:19:08.159
<v Speaker 4>trouble getting people to do the diet and lifestyle change. Yeah,

1488
01:19:08.199 --> 01:19:10.680
<v Speaker 4>he knows it works, he does in himself, but even

1489
01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:13.479
<v Speaker 4>with his patients that are looking at bypasses, it's still

1490
01:19:13.600 --> 01:19:16.359
<v Speaker 4>so hard to beat addiction, you know, and you know

1491
01:19:16.399 --> 01:19:18.600
<v Speaker 4>they know. It's hard to get him quit smoking, it's

1492
01:19:18.640 --> 01:19:20.760
<v Speaker 4>hard to get him quit drinking, and it's hard to

1493
01:19:20.760 --> 01:19:23.600
<v Speaker 4>get him to make diet lifestyle changes. It's just statistically

1494
01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:26.000
<v Speaker 4>less likely to make diet mustyle genus than it is

1495
01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:26.560
<v Speaker 4>to quit.

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01:19:26.720 --> 01:19:34.279
<v Speaker 1>Hero Yeah, I really wish that the dominant health modality,

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01:19:34.279 --> 01:19:38.479
<v Speaker 1>which is allopathic medicine, would begin incorporating a little more

1498
01:19:38.840 --> 01:19:42.680
<v Speaker 1>of these alternative I won't even call it alternative, fundamental

1499
01:19:42.720 --> 01:19:45.319
<v Speaker 1>health traditions like fasting in their PA.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think it is. The lifestyle medicine is an

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01:19:47.479 --> 01:19:48.840
<v Speaker 4>example of thousands of dogtars.

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01:19:48.840 --> 01:19:50.640
<v Speaker 1>But that's a minor portion.

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01:19:50.920 --> 01:19:54.079
<v Speaker 4>But there's fifteen hundred. I mean that conference between the

1504
01:19:54.119 --> 01:19:56.560
<v Speaker 4>live and the remote is I think fifteen hundred doctors.

1505
01:19:57.000 --> 01:19:59.680
<v Speaker 4>So I mean, granted that's there's sixty eight, you know, hour.

1506
01:19:59.600 --> 01:20:01.399
<v Speaker 1>Mean all California docs.

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01:20:01.479 --> 01:20:02.840
<v Speaker 4>No no, these are all across the nation.

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01:20:03.079 --> 01:20:04.079
<v Speaker 1>Spoke in Florida.

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01:20:04.159 --> 01:20:06.600
<v Speaker 4>I spoken if this happened to be California. But remember

1510
01:20:06.640 --> 01:20:09.520
<v Speaker 4>it's broadcast and it's broadcast all over the world. So

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01:20:09.760 --> 01:20:12.079
<v Speaker 4>I mean they have, however, many hundred doctors they have

1512
01:20:12.920 --> 01:20:15.439
<v Speaker 4>at the events, but it's there's thousands of people watching

1513
01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:18.479
<v Speaker 4>it remotely. You know, I did a show with Rich

1514
01:20:18.600 --> 01:20:22.600
<v Speaker 4>Roll has four point five million views. I mean, you

1515
01:20:22.680 --> 01:20:25.800
<v Speaker 4>realize how many people four point five It's enough that

1516
01:20:25.880 --> 01:20:29.239
<v Speaker 4>I was walking down the street in Las Vegas, just

1517
01:20:29.359 --> 01:20:31.079
<v Speaker 4>minding my own business on the street, and some guy

1518
01:20:31.119 --> 01:20:32.800
<v Speaker 4>came up to me and goes, oh, I know you.

1519
01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:38.840
<v Speaker 4>You're doctor Calipus. That's what you remember because I called

1520
01:20:38.920 --> 01:20:40.119
<v Speaker 4>milk Calapus or something.

1521
01:20:40.239 --> 01:20:42.079
<v Speaker 1>Even God, it's so funny.

1522
01:20:42.520 --> 01:20:44.800
<v Speaker 4>So it's interesting. If I go in Costco now, people

1523
01:20:44.840 --> 01:20:47.359
<v Speaker 4>come over, they want to take photos of the cart

1524
01:20:47.439 --> 01:20:50.640
<v Speaker 4>and stuff. You know, they've got questions. That's interesting, and

1525
01:20:50.720 --> 01:20:52.680
<v Speaker 4>so that would never have happened in the old days.

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01:20:52.680 --> 01:20:55.319
<v Speaker 4>I always speak to, you know, fifty people, five hundred people,

1527
01:20:55.359 --> 01:20:57.680
<v Speaker 4>whatever it is, speak to millions of people like you

1528
01:20:57.840 --> 01:21:01.399
<v Speaker 4>probably have tens of thousands of people that watch your podcast.

1529
01:21:01.640 --> 01:21:03.800
<v Speaker 4>If I were to go do live lectures. It would

1530
01:21:03.800 --> 01:21:06.119
<v Speaker 4>take me four hundred and fifty years to reach as

1531
01:21:06.119 --> 01:21:08.600
<v Speaker 4>many people as we'll reach with this show today.

1532
01:21:09.159 --> 01:21:11.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, social media is great.

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01:21:11.199 --> 01:21:15.680
<v Speaker 4>It's unbelievable. It's unbelivable. How can there be thousands and

1534
01:21:15.760 --> 01:21:19.560
<v Speaker 4>thousands and thousands of people that you can you can reach,

1535
01:21:19.880 --> 01:21:22.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, without having to like fly across the country.

1536
01:21:22.880 --> 01:21:24.560
<v Speaker 4>And it's a big This is such a miracle. I

1537
01:21:24.600 --> 01:21:25.880
<v Speaker 4>can't even imagine it.

1538
01:21:25.960 --> 01:21:29.720
<v Speaker 1>And it's fantastic. As we continue, as we close, I

1539
01:21:29.760 --> 01:21:32.199
<v Speaker 1>should say, Alan, let's give us to the contact, give

1540
01:21:32.279 --> 01:21:35.399
<v Speaker 1>us your website and all the other details.

1541
01:21:34.920 --> 01:21:37.319
<v Speaker 4>Of so the website's real simple, it's true North Health

1542
01:21:37.359 --> 01:21:40.880
<v Speaker 4>dot com. Okay, And if you go to the website,

1543
01:21:40.920 --> 01:21:43.600
<v Speaker 4>you get everything you need, phone numbers, direct contact to me,

1544
01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:46.279
<v Speaker 4>websites you can do the registration.

1545
01:21:46.319 --> 01:21:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Is there a wedding list for the clinic.

1546
01:21:48.359 --> 01:21:50.640
<v Speaker 4>There is a little waitlist on the clinic, but it's

1547
01:21:50.680 --> 01:21:52.359
<v Speaker 4>not terribly We have a big clinic.

1548
01:21:52.479 --> 01:21:52.640
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1549
01:21:52.680 --> 01:21:56.119
<v Speaker 4>We have eighty two patient beds, oh, eighty two beds

1550
01:21:56.279 --> 01:21:58.720
<v Speaker 4>beds for patients. We have about twenty for staff. So

1551
01:21:58.880 --> 01:22:01.720
<v Speaker 4>we had we had a fifteen hundred admissions a year,

1552
01:22:02.279 --> 01:22:04.680
<v Speaker 4>and you know, there's only so many people that are

1553
01:22:04.680 --> 01:22:07.399
<v Speaker 4>willing to fast and make lifestyle changes. It's not like

1554
01:22:07.680 --> 01:22:10.159
<v Speaker 4>everybody out there wants to do it. It's a small percentage

1555
01:22:10.199 --> 01:22:12.920
<v Speaker 4>of the you know, I find the biggest motivator is

1556
01:22:12.960 --> 01:22:15.720
<v Speaker 4>pained ability and fear of death. So people that are

1557
01:22:15.720 --> 01:22:18.560
<v Speaker 4>really suffering, they're their best patience because they'll do anything.

1558
01:22:18.600 --> 01:22:22.239
<v Speaker 4>They'll even change their diet and lifestyle. You may. The

1559
01:22:22.319 --> 01:22:24.840
<v Speaker 4>other group is the healthy people that do it premitively

1560
01:22:24.880 --> 01:22:27.600
<v Speaker 4>to stay well. And we've actually shown in a study

1561
01:22:27.600 --> 01:22:31.680
<v Speaker 4>we published recently that the cardio metabolic changes in healthy

1562
01:22:31.680 --> 01:22:34.960
<v Speaker 4>people actually are even bigger than sick people. The people

1563
01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:37.439
<v Speaker 4>that make it the most benefit of fasting are the

1564
01:22:37.479 --> 01:22:39.840
<v Speaker 4>healthy people that do you know, relatively short periods of

1565
01:22:39.880 --> 01:22:43.279
<v Speaker 4>fast and preventively, rather than even just the sick people

1566
01:22:43.319 --> 01:22:46.199
<v Speaker 4>who obviously get benefit that the healthy people may really

1567
01:22:46.239 --> 01:22:48.279
<v Speaker 4>be where the best long term changes are going to

1568
01:22:48.319 --> 01:22:48.800
<v Speaker 4>turn out to be.

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01:22:49.239 --> 01:22:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Wow, fantastic, Hey, my success in this new book it

1570
01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:55.640
<v Speaker 1>just came out, Can Fast Save Your Life? I think

1571
01:22:55.680 --> 01:22:57.239
<v Speaker 1>what just came out this week?

1572
01:22:57.359 --> 01:22:59.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well it's yeah, a few weeks ago it was

1573
01:22:59.640 --> 01:23:01.760
<v Speaker 4>released and so it's brand new there.

1574
01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:04.880
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, much successed about it. Yeah, I enjoyed it.

1575
01:23:04.880 --> 01:23:08.159
<v Speaker 1>It's a good Bremmer and I hope that more people

1576
01:23:08.399 --> 01:23:10.960
<v Speaker 1>hear about it. Hey, Alan, I really appreciate your time.

1577
01:23:10.960 --> 01:23:17.000
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, absolutely, it's nice to meet you.

1578
01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:20.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not so sure on one hundred percent

1579
01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:24.640
<v Speaker 1>water fast because that's really kind of brutal. I ease

1580
01:23:24.680 --> 01:23:27.760
<v Speaker 1>into it with, you know, a cup of coffee on

1581
01:23:27.880 --> 01:23:31.520
<v Speaker 1>the first Monday, So the night before I'm doing a

1582
01:23:31.800 --> 01:23:37.319
<v Speaker 1>elongated fast, I will stop eating at like six o'clock

1583
01:23:38.439 --> 01:23:41.920
<v Speaker 1>on a Sunday, and then I'll make coffee. I drink

1584
01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:46.479
<v Speaker 1>decaf ground roast decaf, uh, and then I'll have a

1585
01:23:46.520 --> 01:23:50.880
<v Speaker 1>cup of coffee. On Monday. I'll have another cup of

1586
01:23:50.880 --> 01:23:54.439
<v Speaker 1>coffee coffee in the afternoon, and then tea and water

1587
01:23:54.520 --> 01:23:57.880
<v Speaker 1>for the evening. And that kind of sets the tone.

1588
01:23:58.039 --> 01:24:01.760
<v Speaker 1>And I really worked hard to to schedule my week

1589
01:24:02.439 --> 01:24:08.720
<v Speaker 1>with less stress, and that means taking less meetings. You know.

1590
01:24:09.079 --> 01:24:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I do research for all my interviews, so I'm gonna

1591
01:24:11.960 --> 01:24:15.239
<v Speaker 1>be reading the book and coming up with notations and

1592
01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:19.279
<v Speaker 1>questions and so forth. So that's that. Can't I can't

1593
01:24:19.319 --> 01:24:23.079
<v Speaker 1>stop that, but I try to reduce my travel. I

1594
01:24:23.119 --> 01:24:25.479
<v Speaker 1>try to give myself time to get out in the

1595
01:24:25.520 --> 01:24:29.000
<v Speaker 1>air during the day. And if I do that and

1596
01:24:29.039 --> 01:24:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not too stressed up, and I go to bed

1597
01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:34.359
<v Speaker 1>a little bit earlier, I find that the fasts are

1598
01:24:34.880 --> 01:24:38.840
<v Speaker 1>easier to do and you can stretch them out. All

1599
01:24:38.840 --> 01:24:42.039
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, you're into the second day. Your days

1600
01:24:42.079 --> 01:24:44.960
<v Speaker 1>gone on the second day, you got your third day,

1601
01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:49.399
<v Speaker 1>and after the For me, the third day is where

1602
01:24:50.439 --> 01:24:54.239
<v Speaker 1>the body is releasing toxins and junk into the system,

1603
01:24:54.279 --> 01:24:57.079
<v Speaker 1>and that's where you can feel a little weak and uncomfortable.

1604
01:24:57.560 --> 01:25:00.119
<v Speaker 1>But it's minor. It's really really minor. Now, if if

1605
01:25:00.159 --> 01:25:04.159
<v Speaker 1>you have a major disease process, if you're dealing with

1606
01:25:04.199 --> 01:25:09.239
<v Speaker 1>a diagnosis of cancer or MS, or rheumatoid arthritis or diabetes,

1607
01:25:10.039 --> 01:25:13.279
<v Speaker 1>you've allowed your body you haven't been paying attention to

1608
01:25:13.319 --> 01:25:16.319
<v Speaker 1>your signals. The body's been telling you've probably for years

1609
01:25:16.600 --> 01:25:18.840
<v Speaker 1>that you've got a problem, and you haven't been paying attention.

1610
01:25:19.479 --> 01:25:22.359
<v Speaker 1>You have to be careful about those kinds of fast

1611
01:25:22.399 --> 01:25:26.680
<v Speaker 1>because you can release a lot of poison and really

1612
01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:28.720
<v Speaker 1>shut your body down, and you don't want to do that.

1613
01:25:28.880 --> 01:25:33.199
<v Speaker 1>So if you've been diagnosed with an illness, first of all,

1614
01:25:33.399 --> 01:25:37.880
<v Speaker 1>go to doctor Goldhammer's website and see what the recommendations are.

1615
01:25:37.920 --> 01:25:40.439
<v Speaker 1>For somebody in your area, and maybe start off with

1616
01:25:40.439 --> 01:25:44.039
<v Speaker 1>a twenty four hour fast and then move on to

1617
01:25:44.640 --> 01:25:48.000
<v Speaker 1>a two day and so forth every other month or

1618
01:25:48.039 --> 01:25:51.760
<v Speaker 1>every second month or whatever. But you know what, it's

1619
01:25:51.800 --> 01:25:54.039
<v Speaker 1>not just fasting. You've got to think about your diet.

1620
01:25:54.479 --> 01:25:58.840
<v Speaker 1>No more deep fried food, no more alcohol, and God

1621
01:25:58.920 --> 01:26:02.399
<v Speaker 1>forbid you smoke, because if you're smoking, you're really making

1622
01:26:02.399 --> 01:26:09.119
<v Speaker 1>a mess of things. So anyhow, everybody's different. Ticket, slow ticket,

1623
01:26:09.199 --> 01:26:12.239
<v Speaker 1>one day at a time, and I guarantee you you'll

1624
01:26:12.279 --> 01:26:19.560
<v Speaker 1>feel so rejuvenated. It's really a rejuvenating technique, just fantastic

1625
01:26:19.680 --> 01:26:25.239
<v Speaker 1>for rehelping regain your health. So again, the books available

1626
01:26:25.399 --> 01:26:29.079
<v Speaker 1>on Amazon, it's called Can Fasting Save Your Life? Is

1627
01:26:29.119 --> 01:26:31.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit clinical. I mean he gets into the

1628
01:26:31.560 --> 01:26:35.800
<v Speaker 1>prop the positives of it. But you know, it's a starter.

1629
01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:38.640
<v Speaker 1>It's not a very expensive book. You know, you can

1630
01:26:38.680 --> 01:26:42.279
<v Speaker 1>start with that and then go and find other books.

1631
01:26:42.399 --> 01:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Bernard Jensen is a good one. Paul Bragg on fasting.

1632
01:26:48.079 --> 01:26:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Bernard Jensen is one that I followed. He's been around.

1633
01:26:51.960 --> 01:26:55.479
<v Speaker 1>He passed away god twenty years ago, if not more.

1634
01:26:56.000 --> 01:26:58.319
<v Speaker 1>And then you might, you know, do a search for

1635
01:26:59.159 --> 01:27:03.159
<v Speaker 1>doing a two day fast or four day fast now

1636
01:27:03.199 --> 01:27:07.760
<v Speaker 1>I highly recommend doctor Jason fung Fu and g. He

1637
01:27:07.840 --> 01:27:09.600
<v Speaker 1>wrote a book a couple of years ago called The

1638
01:27:09.680 --> 01:27:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Complete Guide to Fasting, and he describes how to do

1639
01:27:14.079 --> 01:27:17.479
<v Speaker 1>a short fast couple of days, and how to also

1640
01:27:17.600 --> 01:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>do an extended fast. And he has been around for

1641
01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:24.439
<v Speaker 1>a while. You can see his videos on YouTube. They're

1642
01:27:24.439 --> 01:27:27.760
<v Speaker 1>all free, and he is an expert. And he is

1643
01:27:27.920 --> 01:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>somebody who has helped people with type two diabetes and

1644
01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:36.680
<v Speaker 1>help them reverse it. And it's funny how the body

1645
01:27:36.720 --> 01:27:41.760
<v Speaker 1>will correct itself from these degenerative types of diseases like diabetes,

1646
01:27:41.880 --> 01:27:48.279
<v Speaker 1>chronic fatigue, arthritis, even certain types of cancer. When you

1647
01:27:48.600 --> 01:27:50.880
<v Speaker 1>do a fast, now you just don't do the fast

1648
01:27:50.880 --> 01:27:53.520
<v Speaker 1>and go back to eating your regular food. You got

1649
01:27:53.520 --> 01:27:56.119
<v Speaker 1>to really keep an eye on your diet. You had

1650
01:27:56.119 --> 01:28:00.920
<v Speaker 1>to eliminate fatty foods, foods that are deep fried, and alcohol.

1651
01:28:01.159 --> 01:28:02.960
<v Speaker 1>If you're if you have a chronic illness, you can

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<v Speaker 1>just need to eliminate them if you're serious about getting well.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not serious and you're you have a problem

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<v Speaker 1>with addictions in your you know, obese, then you got

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<v Speaker 1>to start somewhere and start eliminating the problem areas of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, over eating fried food, alcohol, cigarettes, so forth

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<v Speaker 1>and so on, or else you're gonna die young. You

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of people do in America. People pass

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<v Speaker 1>away in their fifties and the sixties. But you need

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<v Speaker 1>to consider feeling well and being well and fasting this

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<v Speaker 1>one area again. Check check out Jason Fong. All these

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<v Speaker 1>books I'm mentioning you can see on Amazon, or you

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<v Speaker 1>can go to Jason Fong j A s O N

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<v Speaker 1>f U n G. He's an MD. He's in Canada,

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<v Speaker 1>The Complete Guide to Fasting two Days to one week

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<v Speaker 1>and longer. I think he's got a forty day fast

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<v Speaker 1>in there, and that's I can't imagine. I'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>go on a retreat. And you know that's why Alan

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<v Speaker 1>Goldhammer's retreat, the True North Health Clinic in northern California

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<v Speaker 1>is a place you go for two weeks supervised, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you break your fast, you start refeeding. So anyhow,

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<v Speaker 1>I am fascinated with fasting. I plan to live to

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<v Speaker 1>be one hundred plus. My mother right now is ninety four.

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<v Speaker 1>She's slowed down quite a bit. She hasn't really ever fasted.

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<v Speaker 1>She's taken really good care of her health though, but

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<v Speaker 1>she's got issues everyone. You get into your nineties, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have issues, but hey, you want to live

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<v Speaker 1>as long and as comfortably and as healthily as you can.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hope you enjoyed that program. Okay, that's it

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<v Speaker 1>for this program, and I think my guest today, Alan Goldhammer,

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<v Speaker 1>coming to us from True North Health Clinic in Santa Rosa, California.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's always a team of Guilt tour Mark Foster

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone who makes this thing happen. I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>your help. All right, take care and be well, and

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<v Speaker 1>we will talk to you next time.
