1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:05,519 Speaker 1: Hello, ladies, gentlemen, and welcome to the first episode of 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,919 our four episode series, The GV ten Year Retrospectives. I 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,240 am the Dirty Hard Drive tras. Now I'm joined by. 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,679 Speaker 2: I am that day review fucking interns. Man never know 5 00:00:20,719 --> 00:00:23,960 when to speak. I am the waiter in training. 6 00:00:23,679 --> 00:00:27,199 Speaker 3: No less, I am the computer virus state of Field. 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Yes, ladies, Jones. So what we're doing for the next 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,679 four to five weeks, there's a little break in between 9 00:00:31,719 --> 00:00:33,640 for the candidate Halliday when you're listening to but for 10 00:00:33,719 --> 00:00:35,759 the over the next month or so, you're going to 11 00:00:35,799 --> 00:00:38,719 be getting a retrospector that each of us have chosen. 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,679 As far as just to celebrate ten year, you know, 13 00:00:40,719 --> 00:00:43,200 we take requests. We do one time for series, thought, 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,039 oh let's do something fun. It's ten years. It's all 15 00:00:45,079 --> 00:00:47,359 picked some and we're going to watch on the coming weeks. 16 00:00:47,399 --> 00:00:49,799 We got Wrong Turned dead End Taylor's pick, we got 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,840 the Big Lebowski, Del Mussa's pick, we got The Game, 18 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,479 Kirklan's pick, but today we got my pick. Twenty eleven's 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,280 the directors or from a director Steve mc queen shame. 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,920 I mentioned this on the cast. We talked about it 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,319 there's a multitude of reasons why I picked it. Because 22 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:09,480 Tya did ask he's he's saying, He's like, oh, I 23 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,799 feel like these retros say something about us all, and 24 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,760 I will talk about what it says about me, but 25 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,640 I'm gonna let these gentlemen go first. But I will 26 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,799 say it definitely was primarily picked because if people are 27 00:01:18,879 --> 00:01:20,760 newer listeners who are only run in the first half 28 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,760 because geek first. I guess it's still started four years 29 00:01:23,799 --> 00:01:25,640 after the movie came out, but I can't remember how 30 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,640 became like a little meme for a while and shame 31 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,840 would always come up, but never had a reason to 32 00:01:29,879 --> 00:01:32,280 watch anything like that. So I had to take the 33 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,879 opportunity of Okay, we've talked about it. Muned about it, 34 00:01:35,079 --> 00:01:37,920 I think meaned about just Michael Fastbender being nakeing stuff. 35 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,599 I have a big man crushed on Fastbender. He's fantastic. 36 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,799 Even watching this, I'm taking back to twenty eleven. So 37 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,200 I'll start with you, Taylor, because I was the most curious. 38 00:01:48,239 --> 00:01:50,599 I said to Emily, I'm like, Mahn, Taylor had to 39 00:01:50,599 --> 00:01:52,840 watch this movie, and I feel like, luckily now, I 40 00:01:52,879 --> 00:01:56,000 feel like since the podcast started, you've watched a lot 41 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,519 of weird stuff. But I feel like I could not 42 00:01:57,599 --> 00:02:00,359 have pictured you back in twenty fifteen watching it anything 43 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,280 remotely close to this. And uh, I me asure you 44 00:02:03,319 --> 00:02:05,120 watched it alone, right, you didn't put that mass and 45 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,719 through uh this ordeal. 46 00:02:06,879 --> 00:02:10,159 Speaker 3: I watched it alone. She she messed around with me 47 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:15,719 because well she watched the back She watched the back half. 48 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:16,199 Speaker 4: Of this movie. 49 00:02:16,319 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: I should say, but when I'm not the start of 50 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,360 the back halp, because when we were driving the other 51 00:02:23,439 --> 00:02:25,280 day and I was like, oh, you've never yeah, you 52 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,759 never seen this movie before, right, so I know I 53 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,000 watched it before. Like what, she was just fucking with me. 54 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 4: She didn't watch it. She didn't watch it. 55 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 3: But anyways, another life ago, me. 56 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: And my last boyfriend reenacted all those scenes. 57 00:02:39,039 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 4: He was the back christ. 58 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 2: Oh. 59 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,439 Speaker 3: But yeah, this is not a movie I would have 60 00:02:44,479 --> 00:02:50,199 been rushing to go watch back in the day. It's just, yeah, 61 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:52,520 do I like this movie? 62 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:53,199 Speaker 1: No? 63 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 4: Not really? 64 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: It just it to sum it up, it feels like, 65 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,360 you know, you're you're singing guy, you feel like shit, 66 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,120 and you you beat one off and you feel like 67 00:03:05,159 --> 00:03:06,159 shit afterwards. 68 00:03:06,159 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 4: You know that sounds up this movie. So I just, yeah, 69 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:11,280 I know, I don't know. 70 00:03:11,719 --> 00:03:14,479 Speaker 3: There's some moments in here where I chuckled, But at 71 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,680 the end of the day, I really felt like it was. 72 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 4: I don't know, it didn't didn't do anything. 73 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: I had to go online and see, like, why are 74 00:03:23,039 --> 00:03:25,000 people raving about this? Like oh, the camera work and 75 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,319 certain other things this and that, this and that. I'm like, 76 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,759 people are really raving about. 77 00:03:29,759 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 4: This these things in this movie. It's just going over. 78 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,879 Speaker 3: My head because I just I think, what the fuck, 79 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,879 Like you can get better camera work angles and stuff 80 00:03:37,879 --> 00:03:38,599 and other movies. 81 00:03:38,639 --> 00:03:40,919 Speaker 4: And like the guy just wanders off. 82 00:03:40,759 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: The street into a club and you know, buddy just 83 00:03:44,599 --> 00:03:48,479 starts going ham on him and like, okay, like I guess, 84 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:53,439 let's just okay, Well geez, Like I don't know, it's 85 00:03:53,479 --> 00:03:55,120 just there. I didn't feel like there's really much of 86 00:03:55,159 --> 00:03:58,080 a story. It's just a guy feeling like shit. 87 00:03:58,199 --> 00:03:59,319 Speaker 5: And that was it. 88 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:00,919 Speaker 4: Like but just sex in there. 89 00:04:00,919 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to if you want to 90 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,199 watch sex, just watch porn. You know, this story might 91 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,039 be a bit better. 92 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying the wow okay, and I just 93 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,360 wait till I get the wrong turn. My friend I 94 00:04:11,479 --> 00:04:12,479 jumped to that series. 95 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: I'm worried for when we get to Big Lebowski, just 96 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,519 a guy doing nothing is like that whole movie. I'm 97 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,199 worried for what you're gonna think of the plot of 98 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:19,560 that one. 99 00:04:19,879 --> 00:04:21,879 Speaker 1: Not that it will change because you like it, just 100 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,199 like that's all right, But do you do you know, like, 101 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,600 do you understand what the character's arc is? Like I don't. 102 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:27,800 Do you understand how. 103 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 4: How they's a sex addict? 104 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: Right? No, that's that's about then yes, you want to 105 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,040 correct what Why do you think the character comes to 106 00:04:37,079 --> 00:04:38,839 a realization by the end of this movie? 107 00:04:38,879 --> 00:04:39,639 Speaker 4: Oh, he's alone? 108 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: Okay, kind of but there there's some there, so we'll wait. 109 00:04:43,639 --> 00:04:45,879 But there there's I feel like he's he knows he's 110 00:04:45,879 --> 00:04:49,000 alone to begin But okay, Taylor, not a fan, not surprised. 111 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,040 I'm glad you've now watched it. So, uh, where are you, 112 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,279 mister muss On? Michael Fastpender's shame. 113 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: Fast Meader's shame. Yeah, I yeah, it's it's funny. Recently, 114 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,279 I was listening back to our top ten movie ranking 115 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,680 that we did in year one, and of course this 116 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,560 came up on your list at that point in time, 117 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:07,879 which is I don't know if that was the first 118 00:05:07,879 --> 00:05:09,519 time I came up on the podcast. I think it 119 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,199 was because I think we were all like, what, what 120 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,439 movie is this when you were describing it. But yeah, 121 00:05:13,439 --> 00:05:15,240 obviously it has been one that's kind of building up 122 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:16,879 the hype for it over the years, and I don't 123 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,160 know why I haven't actually gone to watch it sooner 124 00:05:19,199 --> 00:05:22,600 than this, because I very much trust your opinions on movies, 125 00:05:22,759 --> 00:05:25,600 like usually, you know if I'm gonna like something or 126 00:05:25,639 --> 00:05:27,120 I like a lot of the movies that you like. 127 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,279 It's a good movie. I think it's solid. I think 128 00:05:31,319 --> 00:05:33,920 I maybe had my expectations perhaps a bit too high. 129 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,040 I think there's some points where there's a few scenes 130 00:05:37,079 --> 00:05:38,800 that just didn't really affect me in any way, and 131 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,360 I think that they were supposed to. Like I'm wondering. 132 00:05:41,759 --> 00:05:44,199 I guess, well, I don't want to spoil your thoughts, Travis, 133 00:05:44,199 --> 00:05:46,839 but I'm wondering if this hits differently on a different 134 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,000 on a second watch, that kind of thing. I think 135 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,720 some sequences are really good. I really like the ending. 136 00:05:51,759 --> 00:05:54,879 I think that's really well done. I found that this 137 00:05:54,879 --> 00:05:56,639 this movie's not very funny. It's not trying to be, 138 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,079 but the moments where it is doing funny stuff, I 139 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,439 found really funny. So I think that like it somehow, 140 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,319 even though I wasn't trying to do that, just like 141 00:06:04,319 --> 00:06:07,120 really nailed some of the comedy stuff, like the waiter scene. 142 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,360 I fucking love that secret. That is like one of 143 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,600 the funniest scenes ever. But there's still a lot of 144 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,319 other stuff going on there. So yeah, I think it's 145 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:16,480 I think it's a good story. There's some really good 146 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,399 character stuff going on there. But yeah, I think I 147 00:06:19,439 --> 00:06:22,839 think I was not even disappointed. I just think it's, like, yeah, 148 00:06:22,879 --> 00:06:24,600 this is a solid movie. But I guess I was 149 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,519 maybe expecting a touch more than when I got here. 150 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I probably should have talked about for ten years, 151 00:06:29,759 --> 00:06:30,399 you know, kind of. 152 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 2: I probably should have watched it ten years ago. It's 153 00:06:33,319 --> 00:06:34,319 waiting ten years. 154 00:06:34,399 --> 00:06:37,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, mister Pats you how about me? 155 00:06:39,319 --> 00:06:43,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, this was an interesting one, obviously much lee anticipated. 156 00:06:44,439 --> 00:06:47,360 I I like thought I knew what I was getting into, 157 00:06:47,519 --> 00:06:53,279 but I definitely didn't I could watch it, no, okay, 158 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:55,959 I watched it in this room. I didn't even watch 159 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,120 it in my my full screen. 160 00:06:59,199 --> 00:07:02,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 161 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,519 Speaker 5: I can definitely appreciate like the crafts ship in this film, 162 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,600 and I feel like it is a different way of 163 00:07:09,759 --> 00:07:11,879 storytelling than like other films I've seen in the past. 164 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,079 So for that reason, it's like a breath of fresh 165 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,920 air of it just doesn't follow like a common formula. 166 00:07:17,959 --> 00:07:20,879 I think I was expecting like fucking aliens to come in. 167 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,399 At some point, I'm like, Okay, when are we gonna 168 00:07:22,399 --> 00:07:23,879 be getting into the meat and potatoes? And then I 169 00:07:23,879 --> 00:07:25,839 see there's like twenty minutes left. I'm like, oh wow, 170 00:07:25,879 --> 00:07:26,879 that was the advantage. 171 00:07:28,439 --> 00:07:29,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then. 172 00:07:29,519 --> 00:07:31,199 Speaker 5: There's just a montage at the end that's the real 173 00:07:32,079 --> 00:07:32,959 bangers and mash. 174 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,519 Speaker 1: But that's your reward for making it through in the 175 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,360 Life of Brandon, you know. 176 00:07:40,519 --> 00:07:40,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. 177 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 5: I mean Fastbender's fantastic. It's not a feel good movie. 178 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,319 I think Dylan nailed it with like it's not trying 179 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,279 to be funny, but like the scenes where it does 180 00:07:49,319 --> 00:07:51,600 have humor, I think it really works. And the reason 181 00:07:51,639 --> 00:07:54,120 why is because it's not like a comedy. I feel 182 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,199 like I'm like uneasy watching this, and then stuff like 183 00:07:57,199 --> 00:07:59,360 that will happen. I'm like, oh, thank god, Okay, there's 184 00:07:59,399 --> 00:08:04,160 there's some realism. Maybe that's the wrong word. Some just 185 00:08:04,199 --> 00:08:07,279 like pull back into like reality of like there is 186 00:08:07,319 --> 00:08:12,959 like just a regular world in this world of just 187 00:08:12,959 --> 00:08:18,639 just a sex addict. Definitely like similar feelings to I 188 00:08:18,639 --> 00:08:21,040 don't think as extreme, but like how I felt watching 189 00:08:21,079 --> 00:08:23,680 Uncut Gems, where like our character just does things were 190 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,199 like oh, man, like I want to root for this 191 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,720 guy and like like think that he'll make the right choice, 192 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,679 but it just doesn't go that way. And then yeah, 193 00:08:32,759 --> 00:08:36,759 it just at the end definitely made me not feel great. 194 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,879 But that's kind of its purpose. So it definitely brought 195 00:08:39,879 --> 00:08:43,720 that emotion out so well executed there. But in terms 196 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,360 of enjoyment, yeah, I didn't really enjoy my time watching this. 197 00:08:48,399 --> 00:08:50,799 I am glad I saw it for just it being 198 00:08:50,879 --> 00:08:56,879 a long anticipated watch for the last ten years. And 199 00:08:57,799 --> 00:09:00,720 what was the female is Carrie Mulligame. I thought she 200 00:09:00,799 --> 00:09:03,000 was great. I thought she was really fantastic a face 201 00:09:03,039 --> 00:09:05,159 that I recognized, so it's like, okay, see, yeah she's 202 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,879 gonna do in here. And I thought she was yeah 203 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,200 really just just well done. 204 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 4: And did you watch it in the morning or at night? 205 00:09:14,639 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 5: I watched it in the am probably ten thirty if 206 00:09:18,039 --> 00:09:20,399 you're ten thirty Sunday, I think it would have been 207 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:24,559 the slot good three three pm, three pm. 208 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,399 Speaker 3: Well, I so I started in the evening and then. 209 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: I watched evening like a one am or like. 210 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 3: No no, no, like eleven pm, eleven pm. 211 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 4: Then when did you finished? 212 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,759 Speaker 1: You didn't see now of this movie? He didn't, he 213 00:09:38,879 --> 00:09:41,240 just woke. I watched. He saw the jerk and in 214 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:43,320 the washroom and then the three way, and that's all 215 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:43,600 he saw. 216 00:09:44,799 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 3: I watched the next part of it in the morning 217 00:09:47,799 --> 00:09:50,600 from like six thirty seven thirty before work, and then 218 00:09:50,639 --> 00:09:54,440 the last bit before with Madison in the evening. Let's 219 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,039 set you up for your I not feel great going 220 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:57,480 to work. 221 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,799 Speaker 1: He used to talk you just like pull one out, 222 00:10:00,879 --> 00:10:01,000 you know. 223 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to the bathroom on his break. 224 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: It's filthy. It's not a long movie too, and he 225 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,440 took three sessions to me, three sessions. 226 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Trevis, you have to watch Wrong. I'm sure you've 227 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,080 already seen Wrong Turn too, but you have to watch 228 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,200 it in that same just cryptic way of just chunk 229 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,159 it up in the most gross chunks. You should watch 230 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:24,440 a movie. 231 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: Funny enough. I did watch the first twenty minutes and 232 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,639 then I pause it and I haven't gone back to ye. 233 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:30,840 I needed a break after Wrong. 234 00:10:30,799 --> 00:10:32,159 Speaker 2: And then watch the ending and then go back to 235 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,039 the middle just to with Taylor. 236 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,519 Speaker 1: So luckily mean Taylor's wretchress are gonna be pretty in 237 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,240 line there. So I don't know what that says. But 238 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:41,759 what that says about me, which open the way he 239 00:10:41,799 --> 00:10:43,960 opened up is what does it say about me? We 240 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,080 were chatting, is you're a sex attic? And then oh no, 241 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,840 of course, and then Kirk is like, yeah, it's because 242 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,679 you're a sex attic, which one two things. One children, 243 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,039 if you ever listen to this, don't listen. This is 244 00:10:54,159 --> 00:10:56,559 cas not listen to about now. Never need to listen 245 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,559 to it too. I want them did take an exam 246 00:10:58,639 --> 00:11:00,639 because Emily would say that I did take a zambline 247 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,200 because like no, like I consider like an insult. And 248 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,080 then when I took the exam, it did say it 249 00:11:05,159 --> 00:11:07,799 was a sex attic. But I will say that I 250 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,600 don't think that's what me and Emily with joke when 251 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,039 watches nothing like brand in here because brand like those 252 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,320 bags that he has. And I'm not at work. 253 00:11:16,759 --> 00:11:17,879 Speaker 2: Spent in nightclock. 254 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm not rushing in the washer at the most mere inconvenience, 255 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,720 like if they if a bird of shits on Brandon's scar, 256 00:11:24,799 --> 00:11:26,559 He's like, oh fuck, I gotta go jerk went out 257 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,200 and everything like that. But uh no, there's probably a 258 00:11:29,279 --> 00:11:31,879 longer cast this one day on a trestle or something 259 00:11:31,879 --> 00:11:33,399 like that. I don't know, maybe in a twenty year, 260 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,759 But like the shorter version was this just came out 261 00:11:35,799 --> 00:11:38,600 at a time where I kind of needed it and 262 00:11:38,639 --> 00:11:42,360 where I kind of interlinked with his not like his 263 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,639 work life and not with the sister life, because that's 264 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,840 like I got nothing going on there. Me and my 265 00:11:46,919 --> 00:11:49,679 sisters have a good relationship, Like nothing there. I think 266 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,200 it was the fact of alone, and I think the 267 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,519 the scene most in general, which we'll get into, but 268 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,840 it's the scene where you know he throughout the movie 269 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,519 there's this lady he likes, he's flooring with a they're talking. 270 00:12:00,519 --> 00:12:02,720 You think there might be some opening. And this is 271 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,720 not a story of my personal either, but when he 272 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,639 goes to do the act, like he can't get hard 273 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,120 all right, he can't get involved into it. But then 274 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,759 when there's like a meanlessly hook up, he can just 275 00:12:11,799 --> 00:12:13,879 do that, no issue, right, And that that's where I 276 00:12:13,879 --> 00:12:15,639 feel like there was a time in my life where 277 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,039 when I saw this, it was like a light bulb 278 00:12:18,159 --> 00:12:20,120 of like, oh man, like you need to like one 279 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,600 felt very lone in at a certain time, never to 280 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:24,360 the amount of brand. Luckily I got a good fan 281 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,320 of life. But then two it's just like I was 282 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,039 going through like a lot of meaningless dating, which was like, 283 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:31,759 because I've told the story before, I was very overweight 284 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,360 from like elementary school to like grade eleven. I graduated 285 00:12:35,399 --> 00:12:37,440 early and I lost away. I bought a treadmill, I 286 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,559 went landscaping, came back, graduated, looked different. So I think 287 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,600 I had like a lot of catching up to do 288 00:12:42,799 --> 00:12:44,840 on the dating scene. Like I didn't date much in 289 00:12:44,879 --> 00:12:47,480 high school because it was a combo of I didn't 290 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,240 like the people that were available or they didn't like me. 291 00:12:50,399 --> 00:12:52,639 Went over this as the fat, funny guy, and whenever 292 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,840 you're funny and fat, you get passed over all the 293 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,600 time because like, oh, they like you for your jokes. 294 00:12:56,639 --> 00:12:58,759 You know, you kiss the most paupular girl in school, 295 00:12:58,759 --> 00:13:00,480 which I did, but then two weeks later, like, ah, 296 00:13:00,519 --> 00:13:02,559 she's dating this guy now, you know, like always the 297 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,840 second option. So for when that happened, I was very 298 00:13:05,879 --> 00:13:08,799 much in like a ketchup mode. And there's like another 299 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,399 I don't know, there was a time in life where 300 00:13:12,399 --> 00:13:14,759 I saw him moving to the States, and that was 301 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,159 a plan and this was not the whole plan. Kirklan 302 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,039 Taylor know about this because of like a not because 303 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,600 dil was cut out from but just because we were 304 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:24,840 talking about this. But not too many people know about this. 305 00:13:25,159 --> 00:13:28,519 When I was younger and the first person I you know, 306 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,639 had the relations with and whatnot, they lived in America, 307 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,919 and my plan was moved to America, not to be 308 00:13:34,039 --> 00:13:35,960 with them, but the idea was that was gonna be 309 00:13:36,039 --> 00:13:38,639 hopefully something that happened down the line. And you know, 310 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,440 I didn't move and met Emily and stuff like that, 311 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,399 and here's another longer store and people ask me why 312 00:13:43,399 --> 00:13:45,879 I don't drink that person we were in a relationship. 313 00:13:45,919 --> 00:13:48,519 There's just like a casual thing. But that person passed 314 00:13:48,519 --> 00:13:50,840 away because they were hit by a drunk driver. And 315 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,000 that was something where you're like young and you're like 316 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,519 sixteen seventeen, I had this idea of like, oh, the 317 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,679 States and this person I've known since I've twelve, we're 318 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,120 gonna you know, we, like I said, had been together 319 00:14:02,159 --> 00:14:03,639 a few times, like oh it's gonna work out, move 320 00:14:03,639 --> 00:14:05,679 out there, I'll be together. So I just felt like 321 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,960 I was very directionless for a time. Of I didn't 322 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,720 know the States. That wasn't the core reason, but that 323 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,559 was one of the big reasons why I didn't go. 324 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,519 And then I just couldn't connect with anybody and just 325 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,799 felt and again this is very I'm still younger, so 326 00:14:18,919 --> 00:14:20,559 at that time, it's like, you know how it is 327 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,440 when you're after high schoolor high school, It's like, oh, 328 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,440 that's the and that obviously that loss was a lot, 329 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,600 but just everything else feels like it's the be all 330 00:14:26,679 --> 00:14:29,279 and all left. You're never gonna Like you're eighteen, You're like, 331 00:14:29,279 --> 00:14:31,200 I'm never gonna meet anybody. I'm never gonna love anybody, 332 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,360 you know, like it's all bad luck. And had many 333 00:14:33,399 --> 00:14:36,600 times were same thing. Even when I was like, uh, 334 00:14:36,879 --> 00:14:38,600 lost all the way, It's like I'd meet a bunch 335 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,240 of people and it's like, oh no, they actually have 336 00:14:40,279 --> 00:14:41,919 a boyfriend. They lied to hear all this stuff. So 337 00:14:42,279 --> 00:14:44,720 there was this time where I definitely just did not 338 00:14:44,799 --> 00:14:46,879 connect with people in that way. And I've joked about 339 00:14:46,879 --> 00:14:48,879 it by saying scumbag Travis. But that's where it was 340 00:14:48,879 --> 00:14:51,120 where I saw this movie and one I love the 341 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,080 actual movie, which I'll talk about that that stuff, but 342 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,240 the those moments was just like, oh man, like, you 343 00:14:56,279 --> 00:14:59,519 don't want to be anything like this. Luckily, again that's 344 00:14:59,559 --> 00:15:02,399 a dram but there's certain things in life, whether there 345 00:15:02,399 --> 00:15:04,720 moments or art the impact you go, Okay, it's like 346 00:15:04,759 --> 00:15:07,559 a little light bulb moment. Not that twenty twelve when 347 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,720 any better for me? Near the back half. It did 348 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,360 because I did meet Emily and then things changed. And 349 00:15:12,399 --> 00:15:14,159 even then when I met Emily, I've said that story before. 350 00:15:14,159 --> 00:15:16,080 I was not looking for a girlfriend because I had 351 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,320 so many bad experiences, like I was done. But luckily, 352 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:19,759 you know, she changed a lot of things for me. 353 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,399 So that was where the life part of why that's 354 00:15:22,399 --> 00:15:23,879 what it says about me. It is just a light 355 00:15:23,919 --> 00:15:26,960 bulb moment of oh man, like, there's certain aspects of yeah, 356 00:15:27,039 --> 00:15:30,200 you're alone, you're making these bad choices, you're with people 357 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,440 that you don't really even like, but you're just like 358 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,759 fulfilling and urge. But again, I'm not Russian. In bathrooms, 359 00:15:35,799 --> 00:15:37,720 I never had. I still lived in my parents, so 360 00:15:37,759 --> 00:15:40,000 I didn't have like ten bags and a bowl of 361 00:15:40,039 --> 00:15:43,240 spaghetti to throw out. And no, this movie, I can't 362 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,840 remember what came out first. It was X Men or 363 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,799 x Men First Class. Let me just see here, because 364 00:15:49,799 --> 00:15:52,679 I'll say that's when he was Magneto. That was two thousand, 365 00:15:52,679 --> 00:15:54,399 so it was the exact same time, and I would 366 00:15:54,399 --> 00:15:57,039 have saw this after all I saw was that, and 367 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,480 this came out like December Oscar season, so I don't 368 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,799 think I saw it to like the end of twenty 369 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,159 eleven or the beginning at twenty twelve. But I just 370 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,320 remember there was a lot of like like scuttle but 371 00:16:08,519 --> 00:16:10,720 about this movie because of the full nudity, and it 372 00:16:10,759 --> 00:16:12,919 got X rating and that's somebody got on the trivia 373 00:16:12,919 --> 00:16:14,559 where they were very proud of that. We're back in 374 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:15,720 that day. It's like, oh, you don't want to ever 375 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,440 get X ray and that's gonna shoot your shots of 376 00:16:17,519 --> 00:16:19,759 like the Oscar which they didn't win any but like 377 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,960 box office all that stuff, but it got X rays. 378 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,519 Remember the festivals was all like, oh, there's this movie 379 00:16:24,559 --> 00:16:27,039 shame and there's like lots of nudy and like Terry 380 00:16:27,039 --> 00:16:29,039 said's pretty much a poor know this and that, And 381 00:16:29,399 --> 00:16:30,840 you know, I don't know what that said about me, 382 00:16:30,879 --> 00:16:33,279 but I like Fastbender in first class. It's like, okay, 383 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,279 I'm interested. Carrie Mulligan, I don't think i'd seen really 384 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,399 much and up until Promisteny young woman. This was my 385 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,559 favorite role of hers. But no, I love everything about 386 00:16:42,559 --> 00:16:45,879 this movie. I've said this before, American Psycho parts of 387 00:16:45,879 --> 00:16:49,440 Breaking Bad. I love the just the single character journey 388 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,840 that's kind of into the darkness and how far they 389 00:16:51,879 --> 00:16:53,200 can go. I like when it is just you know, 390 00:16:53,279 --> 00:16:56,039 the wrestler you talked about black Swan, the newscast, stuff 391 00:16:56,039 --> 00:16:58,759 like that, where it's someone's going through it and they're alone. 392 00:16:58,799 --> 00:17:00,279 I think just because that's where there was a time 393 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,080 where I was just felt like I was going through 394 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,960 it right. And I love all that. I love the 395 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,039 colors in this movie, like the dark blues and the greens. 396 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,240 I love all the acting, the score by Henry Escott 397 00:17:11,319 --> 00:17:14,519 or Harry Ascott, Oh my god, like the Brandon theme 398 00:17:14,759 --> 00:17:17,960 at the beginning. I just love the piano and those cuts. 399 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,480 Everything Steve McQueen, great director. And some of the shots 400 00:17:21,519 --> 00:17:23,599 we'll talk about Taylor. I know it might just be 401 00:17:23,599 --> 00:17:27,359 seeing some junk, but just little stuff of the ending 402 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,519 of this movie when that girl walks up and then 403 00:17:29,599 --> 00:17:31,480 it's just a shot that rerail the hand comes around 404 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,079 and that ring may well be a fucking new because 405 00:17:34,079 --> 00:17:37,160 it's just like puts Brandon in such a particular situation 406 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,119 of now he's trying to be better, and that's what 407 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,480 the theme is Taylor, where he realizes all his selfish 408 00:17:42,519 --> 00:17:45,599 choices led him to possibly losing the only person in 409 00:17:45,599 --> 00:17:48,359 his life he actually cares about. And that's where, Okay, 410 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,240 he has to try and be a better person, even 411 00:17:50,279 --> 00:17:52,359 if these urges are even these are the things that 412 00:17:52,799 --> 00:17:54,960 might kind of pull them back to the darkness. He 413 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,000 has to get back there. So having a fair with 414 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,599 a married woman is not a good idea, but that's 415 00:17:59,599 --> 00:18:02,480 what And I love these type of endings where it's 416 00:18:02,519 --> 00:18:04,440 just like, man, I always wonder it's like, man, what 417 00:18:04,519 --> 00:18:06,440 did Brandon get up to? Did he get off that train? 418 00:18:06,559 --> 00:18:08,359 Did he fall her? And because you look at the 419 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,640 beginning of that movie, he's he And that's where like, 420 00:18:10,839 --> 00:18:14,880 this guy's like very messed up. He's like aggressively following 421 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,039 her through the subway, like he needs to sleep with 422 00:18:17,079 --> 00:18:19,519 this woman. And now the question at the end is, Okay, 423 00:18:19,559 --> 00:18:21,480 you're trying to be a better person, you're trying to 424 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,599 be there for your sister, You're trying to make these changes, 425 00:18:23,599 --> 00:18:25,400 but now that old life is calling you back, which 426 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,039 you feel like we all have those moments, whether it's 427 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,960 bad friendships or relationships or jobs, whatever it may be. 428 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:33,519 But I know everything about this movie. I love the pacing, 429 00:18:33,599 --> 00:18:36,839 right amount of time. But yeah, that's that's how I 430 00:18:36,839 --> 00:18:39,279 feel about Shame. It's when I watch quite often and 431 00:18:39,319 --> 00:18:42,559 it's a it's a great picture, but I do understand. 432 00:18:42,599 --> 00:18:44,720 This is not one where it is like cloud Atlet's 433 00:18:44,759 --> 00:18:46,160 like when we did Golden Geeks and you guys like 434 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:47,880 I don't really like this movie. I was like, yeah, 435 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,680 I can get that. This is not like when people 436 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,599 say I don't like The Dark Night. I'm like, okay, 437 00:18:51,599 --> 00:18:53,599 you need to be checked into a mental facility. We 438 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,799 need to talk I need to talk to you about X, 439 00:18:55,839 --> 00:18:57,640 Y and Z. Shame. I'm like, yeah, this is definitely 440 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,440 not everyone's cup of even the pacing, it's like very 441 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,119 It's just like sometimes feel like just a day in 442 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,400 the life of a guy and you're just watching him 443 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,119 like there's it's not it's slow at times. There's three 444 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,039 nights in a row where it is Michael Fasts been like, oh, 445 00:19:11,079 --> 00:19:12,839 he's just gonna go back out to the bar, like 446 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,359 that's all you're doing. But I love the situations I 447 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,839 love his terrible friend, like he's just does James badger 448 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,920 Dale whatever his name is, he has a weird fucking name, 449 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,920 Like such a good job being an asshole. I'm rambling, 450 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,680 but yeah, so that's why I picked Shames. 451 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 2: Hey, No, I mean, that is a lot to share, 452 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,759 especially in like a public way that this podcast is. 453 00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:37,400 So thank you for sharing all that because obviously that's 454 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,920 like the context of why this movie means so much 455 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,440 more than above it just being like a solid movie. 456 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,319 But damn, dude, like that, Yeah, that's a lot of 457 00:19:45,799 --> 00:19:48,000 of course, darkness in your past, and it sounds like most, 458 00:19:48,039 --> 00:19:50,359 if not all that is is well in your past 459 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,279 there and you've moved past all that, but like obviously 460 00:19:52,279 --> 00:19:54,440 the movie is still gonna like it takes you back 461 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,319 to those times in a little bit, right, So I'm 462 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,559 sure it's very emotional watching every time. But yeah, thank 463 00:19:58,559 --> 00:20:00,519 you for sharing that, because that's it's hard to be 464 00:20:00,599 --> 00:20:02,359 that open on a podcast. I don't know if I've 465 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,400 ever shared that much about myself on these things. 466 00:20:04,599 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: It's my problem. I just talk too much. But no, 467 00:20:06,319 --> 00:20:09,000 I wanted to explain why because hopefully it helps anybody. 468 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,599 Like obviously most some people say, hey, our podcast is 469 00:20:11,599 --> 00:20:13,799 good for like, oh, I'm at work doing something, but 470 00:20:13,799 --> 00:20:16,039 hopefully if anybody has those times, like, it always gets better, 471 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,079 you know. So I'm also very curious when we get 472 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,839 the wrong turn, what Taylor's back life was, you know, like. 473 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, what kind of wrong turns were you take? 474 00:20:23,599 --> 00:20:23,799 Speaker 3: Yeah? 475 00:20:24,319 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, always the phantom people get help and appreciate 476 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,039 people all they're around. But yeah, I guess we can 477 00:20:31,079 --> 00:20:32,359 get into this. Where do you want to start? We 478 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,759 want to start in a particular scene, character moment, you. 479 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,799 Speaker 2: Know, I would love to uh once, like I already 480 00:20:39,799 --> 00:20:42,359 mentioned it, but my favorite scene in here is the 481 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,200 date that he goes on with his coworker there when 482 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,200 they're at the restaurant, which I feel like most, if 483 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,680 not the whole scene is like a one take thing, 484 00:20:50,759 --> 00:20:52,559 so that helps appreciate it a bit more. But I 485 00:20:52,559 --> 00:20:54,160 think it's a classic thing I've seen in so many 486 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,519 movies now where it's just like it starts out a 487 00:20:56,559 --> 00:20:59,039 pretty wide shot and then just like overtime, it's slowly 488 00:20:59,519 --> 00:21:01,240 zooming in. It's one thing you don't you don't really 489 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,960 notice it at the moment, but then when you're at 490 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,359 like the very end of the day before we transition 491 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,480 out of it, and it's like very like zoomed in 492 00:21:07,519 --> 00:21:09,119 on them at that point, which I think is a 493 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,440 great way of showing how they're getting closer to each other, 494 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,200 so like, and then even like the transition out of 495 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,319 that scene is just like then it just hardcuts to 496 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,880 a shot outside the restaurant, as if someone's like stalking 497 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,200 them or watching them of like outside, and then they're 498 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,680 walking outside. I think that was like it's camera work there, 499 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,599 you know, Taylor shitting on the camera work here. But 500 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,640 I think this movie had some really great moments, and 501 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,480 that one in particular stood out. But man, I fucking 502 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,480 love this waiter at like this what seems like a 503 00:21:32,519 --> 00:21:35,599 really bougie, high end restaurant, but this guy just seems 504 00:21:35,599 --> 00:21:37,920 like first day on the job, just like interrupting them, 505 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,759 just like forgetting their order, coming up with suggestions, and 506 00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:43,079 like not taking a hint that he's like clearly being annoying. 507 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,200 And then like the way it starts and stops their 508 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,039 conversation when they're like talking about deeper stuff but they 509 00:21:48,039 --> 00:21:49,559 don't want to talk about when he's right there. But 510 00:21:49,559 --> 00:21:51,880 then over time they don't even they cease to care 511 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,960 about that stuff. Anymore. I thought that's that scene was 512 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,400 like just super duper fun. 513 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: I love that. I imagine I feel like maybe it's 514 00:21:59,759 --> 00:22:02,440 just the I feel like that waiter is something pulled 515 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,400 from a writer or director's just a specific thing they 516 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:06,519 had at that time. 517 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 5: Or they like worked in the service industry. Because that 518 00:22:08,519 --> 00:22:10,680 like reminded me of the first time that I actually 519 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,240 had to like deal with customers. I'm like, I just 520 00:22:12,279 --> 00:22:15,839 feel like a fucking bumbling buffoon. But uh, it seemed 521 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,079 like a nice restaurant. I'm like, man, like, this guy 522 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,440 needs a little bit more training before being thrown in 523 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,359 this in or rush setting. But yeah, it just felt 524 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,880 so authentic and real, and like you said, Travis, like 525 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,279 definitely felt like something someone had pulled. Like maybe they 526 00:22:29,279 --> 00:22:31,960 were the ones that were like experiencing the rude waiter 527 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,240 or like I don't think it was trying to be rude, 528 00:22:34,279 --> 00:22:37,319 but like fuck, man like training wheels like he definitely 529 00:22:37,319 --> 00:22:39,880 needs a little bit more training to be thrown this 530 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,559 situation of just knowing the cues of when to actually 531 00:22:42,759 --> 00:22:46,200 you know, interject, and it's it's it's a common thing 532 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,599 where like you're you're taking your first bite and waiters, 533 00:22:49,599 --> 00:22:52,559 you know, it's like, oh, how's everything going, like fucking 534 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,359 come back and like three bites, Like Jesus Christ, I'm 535 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,359 like getting my forks out. I haven't even touched anything, 536 00:22:58,319 --> 00:23:02,160 dumb dumbs. But yeah, no, I shuts out the service industry. 537 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, being a server can suck. I did it for 538 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,440 a couple of years, and that's not. 539 00:23:06,599 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 2: You serve me. 540 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:08,279 Speaker 1: I did serve. 541 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 4: He's not your experience Kirkling. 542 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, but even little stuff when they're like, oh, 543 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,680 I can't remember what he's getting. He's like in the 544 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,599 steak or whatever. He's like, I'm gonna have meeting him 545 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,039 Rare and the where he's like, well, we suggest you 546 00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:24,440 have a pink and fast as well, then I'll have 547 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,319 a pink. He's like, oh, well pink it is. Then 548 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,519 sirt like you make it sound like it's Fastpenner's idea, 549 00:23:28,519 --> 00:23:29,720 but it's like you kind of made him feel like 550 00:23:29,759 --> 00:23:31,279 an idiot for not getting it. 551 00:23:31,519 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 5: Like Rare and the wine. The wine is the best. 552 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,240 When he's like he like says like the perfect thing 553 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,039 and they're all like oh yeah, right on, and he 554 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,799 comes back it's like did you sign on the wine? 555 00:23:39,839 --> 00:23:41,599 It's like, yeah, I don't know which one, did you 556 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,640 say the pino pino like it just yeah, it seemed 557 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,400 like he wasn't picking up on just whatever like the 558 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,039 common cue would have been. So yeah, I love that. 559 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,599 Speaker 2: I feel like there's even like some I mean, the 560 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,599 movie obviously deals a lot with like misogyny and stuff, 561 00:23:56,599 --> 00:23:58,119 and I feel like there's some subtle misogyny in that 562 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,039 where like the waiter like always directing his gaze and 563 00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:03,839 like his questions too fastpen even she orders first, and 564 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,640 then Fast Matter just like follows it up. Then he 565 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,119 like goes to Fastpender first asks like what he wants 566 00:24:08,279 --> 00:24:10,240 when he's asking about the wine, he's like asking like 567 00:24:10,279 --> 00:24:13,200 Fastbender specifically. So I feel like that's an angle to 568 00:24:13,279 --> 00:24:15,359 it of what maybe he's just a bumbling buffoon of 569 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:16,799 a waiter, but I don't know, I feel like there 570 00:24:16,839 --> 00:24:18,680 was maybe a little bit of a double angle to that. 571 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: No, that's a good point because yeah, he is always 572 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,319 just kind of addressing him, and it feels like she's 573 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,559 just kind of there and even then like to obviously 574 00:24:25,559 --> 00:24:27,759 fast Better does that a lot. But I love that 575 00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:30,119 when she shows he shows up and she's like, oh 576 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,039 you find the place, okayeh, I did you? Oh? Sawy 577 00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:34,480 him a little late. He never actually explains why he's late. 578 00:24:34,519 --> 00:24:36,240 He never actually apologized for being late. 579 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: He doesn't explain much. 580 00:24:38,519 --> 00:24:42,039 Speaker 1: He just acknowledges that, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm late. Eh, 581 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,839 and that's it, like, no no apology whatsoever. But uh, 582 00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:48,359 why do you like that scene though, is because I 583 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,000 think with the pacing and with some of the material, 584 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,559 there's very few moments where you get to kind of 585 00:24:53,559 --> 00:24:55,720 breathe or have some fun. And I think they have 586 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,559 a fun time. I didn't put in my trivia, but 587 00:24:57,599 --> 00:24:59,000 I'll say now that they were I guess dating at 588 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,960 the time. This was movie film, so that always helps 589 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,599 with some chemistry stuff. But I just feel like it's 590 00:25:05,039 --> 00:25:07,319 it's a nice picking up because even their conversation, it 591 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,480 does kind of get more serious about like, oh, oh, 592 00:25:09,519 --> 00:25:12,440 it's your longst relationship four months, Like oh, that's trying. Yeah, 593 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,240 I tried real hard for four months. Like the concept 594 00:25:16,279 --> 00:25:18,319 of longer than four months, right, Like he just feels 595 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,480 like that's like an adequate amount of time. But I 596 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,279 feel like it's still even like a fun, jokey kind 597 00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:26,119 of barb even when she's feeling I skim some weird 598 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,480 answers because Fastpenner's being charming. It stills kind of funny, 599 00:25:29,519 --> 00:25:31,759 even when they leave and he's like, oh, touch, touch 600 00:25:31,839 --> 00:25:33,519 the back of my head, and she does and he 601 00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:36,079 like pretends to bite her or whatnot. I'm glad the 602 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,920 scene's in the movie because if you take that out 603 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,200 and it's just, oh, let's say they just meet for 604 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,279 a quick dinner and then go right to the hotel scene, 605 00:25:43,319 --> 00:25:46,359 and I think you're kind of hopefully rude at least 606 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,119 I am your rooting for them because it's like, oh, 607 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,799 she seems nice, and it seems like this could be 608 00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:51,880 a good fit for him, and maybe he could like 609 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,759 find something, you know, with some meaningful connection here. But 610 00:25:56,799 --> 00:26:00,359 obviously it doesn't happen. The hotel goes extremely wrong for him. 611 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 5: So I and like that scene already kind of mentioned 612 00:26:04,319 --> 00:26:06,720 earlier on, but I thought that was a really powerful 613 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,920 scene also just showing like what he attributes like getting 614 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,359 off on and like like how it's so artificial compared 615 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,359 to like like you know, he has someone that's like 616 00:26:18,039 --> 00:26:22,359 actually like giving him everything for just just making the 617 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,200 love making authentic and real as opposed to just just 618 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,039 just doing it as like an action, like like just 619 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,200 like whether he's paying like courtizonts or whatnot, going rough 620 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,559 doggy style like no eye contact really like there's just 621 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,680 no what's the word I'm looking for, like an affection 622 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,400 like in the actual act supports it's just like just 623 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,119 get my nut off. More so, it's like what he 624 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,680 is always used to so and even just like what 625 00:26:46,839 --> 00:26:49,759 turns him on right, like like it's just so and 626 00:26:49,799 --> 00:26:52,279 he feels that shame afterwards of like this is someone 627 00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:56,359 that's actually like liking him for supposedly who he is. 628 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,599 I don't think she maybe would be thinking that if 629 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,000 she knows fully what he's like. But uh, I thought 630 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,240 it was also just a good like uh representation of 631 00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:10,440 how like like disassociated like especially like young males with 632 00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:13,039 the with the the internet porn and like how you 633 00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:16,720 can just think that is what, yeah, sex is, you know, 634 00:27:16,759 --> 00:27:19,720 and if like that is your sexual education, like when 635 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,599 you actually get into that situation, you're so ill prepared. 636 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,559 So uh yeah, I thought it was. 637 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: Ex video videos, you know, it's not. That's not how 638 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,680 it goes down. And still he's watching those constantly as 639 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,039 we talk about like his hard drive and even then 640 00:27:33,079 --> 00:27:34,880 like that's that's what I always love about the movie 641 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,759 he they show him pick up women constantly, but he's still, 642 00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:39,640 like he said, he's still paying for prostituts. He's still 643 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,720 paying for online people. Like it's not like, oh, he's 644 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,400 super lonely because he can't connect with anybody, so he's 645 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,240 paying this way. So that's why that would still make 646 00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:49,200 sense as far as oh, when he meets someone really 647 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,480 doesn't act. But it's like he still meets people real 648 00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:54,279 that are still also not doing you know, they're not 649 00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:56,480 there for a genuine connection. But still he can meet 650 00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:59,880 real people, but that's not what he's uses those people for, 651 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:00,279 you know. 652 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,079 Speaker 3: So a scene when his sister sat down at his 653 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,000 desk and you just hear the girl, Oh, Brandon. 654 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 4: What do you want me to do next? 655 00:28:09,799 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 3: I will laugh because you just you don't even see 656 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,640 the frame change. You just see his hand going the laptop. 657 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: Thanks. That's a good shot, right, Taylor. 658 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,559 Speaker 4: Like that was good. I'll give you that. 659 00:28:19,839 --> 00:28:21,559 Speaker 1: I feel like that's a good reveal because they don't 660 00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:23,519 set up that he's on the computer. It's just that 661 00:28:23,519 --> 00:28:25,519 they're arguing. And then when she just goes to sit 662 00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:28,839 down like two D talks, it's like, well, what's going 663 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,960 on here? Honestly, later on the movie, she kind of 664 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,319 reveals that she knows more about like he, you know, 665 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,880 probably his afflictions and stuff happening. But I've always loved 666 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,519 that moment when she sits down and it's just like, 667 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,079 what is going on? Because again, what does he do? 668 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,759 Like I get his point of view. It's his boss 669 00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:46,680 and somebody works with so maybe for some people that 670 00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:49,839 might be an itchy situation, but he can't. That's the 671 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,279 whole conversation pep have had for decades, Right, how come 672 00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:55,119 a woman could sleep with you know, a bunch of 673 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,359 guys and be labeled you know, uh, you know someone 674 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,640 beneath but a man it's like a bad on right, 675 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,880 So fastbender. There's that whole scene on the Couch, which 676 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,680 is another just seven minutes of them one shot going dialogue. 677 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,799 They did that sixty times. That scene. They did that 678 00:29:09,839 --> 00:29:11,559 sixty times just to get it right. 679 00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 3: But so did like because that's that's them having this 680 00:29:16,079 --> 00:29:18,160 show is playing the background the sister and him were talking. 681 00:29:18,319 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 4: That's that's the scene you're talking about. 682 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,839 Speaker 1: Yes, on the couch. Yeah, when he's like, oh you're 683 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,359 he calls her a you know, filthy s word and stuff. 684 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,160 Like that, and then so let's talk about your sex life. 685 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,000 And that's when he's like just gonna move out. You're 686 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,119 moving out, like right right when she brings up his 687 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,599 sex life, he kicks her out and she has nowhere 688 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,039 to go, no money. You know, they were they. 689 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,119 Speaker 3: Were getting that scene and a few others. They were 690 00:29:37,119 --> 00:29:39,039 just getting closer and closer and closer. I thought it 691 00:29:39,079 --> 00:29:40,319 was going to come to the point where they're going 692 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,359 to start fucking hing there. 693 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 5: When he like straddles her with his fucking towel. 694 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: Yes, that that's where I'll say, there's there. I don't 695 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,799 relate or have any uh, nothing's going on with I 696 00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:55,680 have no family issues that way. That's been a debate 697 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,200 for years. Karen Mulligan said, like that's not a thing. 698 00:29:58,319 --> 00:30:01,599 The directors just always refused to ad answer that. They definitely 699 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,839 on purpose have many like incestuous like type of like 700 00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:09,799 did something happen in the past, is he attracted to 701 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,599 or is it a weird thing where he's attracted to women? 702 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,680 But he can't have this one because it's his sister. 703 00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:18,960 Like even the first time she's in the movie, they're 704 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,279 playing the song I Want Your Love, you know, and 705 00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:24,519 she's fully nude and stuff like, there's all these little 706 00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:27,519 things that are very odd, and I think they do 707 00:30:27,599 --> 00:30:29,279 put that in there. Again, they talk about their past. 708 00:30:29,319 --> 00:30:31,200 Some people don't like that because they want That's always 709 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,400 been a knock Fiel against the film that oh I 710 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,880 need more, But I think that's kind of like the 711 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,279 ending for me. I like that there's not and even 712 00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:39,319 the director said like, I'm purposely not going to answer 713 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,920 certain questions. So I don't know. I don't think anything 714 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,160 did sexually happen. But I think just because he is 715 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,759 a confused individual with that relationship and some of his 716 00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:51,680 emotional stuff, that's where those I'm not saying those thoughts 717 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,319 cross his mind, but it's just it's like he doesn't 718 00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:56,839 want to have the thought of sex and his sister 719 00:30:57,079 --> 00:30:59,319 at all. Like when him and is with his sister 720 00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:02,920 and his boss, he's having like a full on panic attack. 721 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,559 He's pacing around, he's punching the walls like and some 722 00:31:05,559 --> 00:31:07,279 people say, oh, it's because he's like jealousy. Way, I 723 00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:08,880 don't think it's that. I think it's just like it's 724 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,240 a maybe he doesn't want to fall down his path. 725 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,319 I don't know if that's why I love about that dynamic. 726 00:31:13,359 --> 00:31:15,000 There's so many kind of routes you can look at it. 727 00:31:15,079 --> 00:31:18,279 Speaker 2: So yeah, I definitely because you know, this whole movie, 728 00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:20,400 it's like you don't know exactly what's gonna end. I 729 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,079 did not expect that she was gonna kill herself, but 730 00:31:23,319 --> 00:31:25,720 you know you feel like, Okay, this movie's gonna lead 731 00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:28,559 to a rock bottom moment for this character, and what 732 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,759 is that gonna be? And I definitely felt like they 733 00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:33,079 were at least yeah, hinting that like maybe he's gonna 734 00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:34,599 look up with his sister and that would be his 735 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,880 rock bottom moment because like for me, when I was 736 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,680 watching that scene when he's in the apartment, which really 737 00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:42,480 so fucked up from the Boss like in that sequel, 738 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,119 like in his own apartment in his bed, like super weird. 739 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,960 But like that when he's in the living room and 740 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,759 he starts taking his clothes off, I thought, is he 741 00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:52,079 gonna like start wanking into like the sounds of his 742 00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:54,400 sister getting banged over there? And like obviously the first 743 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,960 thing you see her, she's like naked in the in 744 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,839 the the shower, and then when she like comes to 745 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,799 join him in bed that one time, he just immediately 746 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,359 goes to spooning him, like, you know, nothing wrong with 747 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,240 like a sibling, like simbling sleeping in a bed together. 748 00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:06,799 You know it's a bed whatever. But like if you 749 00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:09,920 go immediately for spooning, that's like a bit different of 750 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,839 a line too. 751 00:32:12,119 --> 00:32:14,599 Speaker 1: That's the same night as the stuff with the boss, right, 752 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,799 and same thing. Not that he handled well, but he 753 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,839 just asked her to go at several times. 754 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: And just go scared the shit out of it the rage. 755 00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:24,039 Speaker 1: That's why after this movie I was like, oh I 756 00:32:24,039 --> 00:32:25,480 could see fast when I was Badman. He was my 757 00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:27,359 fancast for well because when he gets that level and 758 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,400 he just yells, he's just he's scared. Yeah, yeah he did. 759 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,400 It's like later on too, like there's an uncomfortable scene, 760 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,759 like it's to me in a good way when she's 761 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,200 very when she catches him masturbating, and for her it's 762 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,480 like no big deal. And that's why I think you 763 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,160 see the differences, and that's why I don't think that 764 00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:46,079 actually anything sexual has happened, because it's such like a 765 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,359 joke to of like she's just walking on her brother 766 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,039 in an embarrassing situation, but for him that's like a 767 00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:53,279 sacred thing of like, how dare you. It's like, well, 768 00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:55,319 you didn't lock the door. But it starts with them 769 00:32:55,319 --> 00:32:57,559 wrestling and she's like laughing about having good time. But 770 00:32:57,599 --> 00:33:00,000 then it gets very serious when he's like yelling at 771 00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:02,160 about ruining her life. And that's where I think it's 772 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,839 but it's funny you bring that uphen Danie were wondering 773 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,039 that was gonna be ending, you know, I was shout 774 00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:09,839 out back to the IMDb boards. That was the huge 775 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,960 debate before the movie came out. Everyone was like, it 776 00:33:12,039 --> 00:33:14,160 is Michael fastpering to sleep with his sister in his movie, 777 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,079 Like that was a big talk tobout and I thought 778 00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:18,240 that's why it was gonna go too. But no, it's 779 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,680 the route we go and I'm not sure if you 780 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,279 guys call it then the I'll say, talk about her arm. 781 00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:24,799 But even stuff of the first time they're on the 782 00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:27,599 train track, she's like standing really close to side and 783 00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:30,240 he like pulls her away right away. That's where it's 784 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,279 like there's like multiple kind of layups to show that 785 00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:34,640 whether it's a cry of help or whether it's this 786 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,599 person that has actually tried to take their life that 787 00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:38,880 multiple times in the movie, they kind of set you 788 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,480 up for that, even though they do that fake out 789 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,559 of when the train stops, Yeah, and that's like a 790 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,839 really but that clicks into the hole, Oh I should 791 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,880 return her call and you know, obviously bad stuff's going on. 792 00:33:48,119 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I think that's an interesting choice 793 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,160 for this movie overall, is like some of it is 794 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,599 very over but I also feel like a lot of 795 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,799 it is subtle, because you could have this being like 796 00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:00,920 Fastbender and Killer where he's like constantly of narrating or 797 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,160 like you know, talking through his thoughts, or you could 798 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,640 have like him having a single friend that he talks 799 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,440 to about this stuff, but you don't get any of that, 800 00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:10,239 so it's just through like facial reactions. And I think 801 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,599 by the like the third act, it's like very more 802 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,760 more overt. You can see the emotions obviously like the 803 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,199 three way scene into like everything with the ending, Like 804 00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:19,800 obviously that's pretty over the top, but like other than that, 805 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,800 it's like little reactions like even when sometimes when he's 806 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,719 on the train looking at a girl or yeah, like 807 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,880 in the in the apartment, like before he you know, 808 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,760 storms out there and goes for a run, like I'm 809 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,280 trying to read his face and like I don't know 810 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,960 what he's thinking here, and I think it does a 811 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,039 good job of that, like and really builds up throughout 812 00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:37,280 the movie before it kind of leads to that rock 813 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,360 bottom moment and then it's a little more over the top. 814 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,960 But yeah, I think for the most part, like this 815 00:34:41,039 --> 00:34:44,079 movie is pretty subtle in what it's doing. I feel like, 816 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,440 and I like that part of it. I'm curious how 817 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,800 you feel about that angle of at Travis scene that 818 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,440 you've watched this movie a bunch of times now and 819 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,800 you're like know exactly what's happening and you're kind of 820 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,920 analyzing his acting in every scene, Like, how you feel 821 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,400 about that that kind of subtlety. 822 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,599 Speaker 1: I think the because obviously got is the background. I 823 00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:02,920 think that's the only way that final scene works because 824 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,239 you see, other than the anger, not really much emotion. 825 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,920 You get just it. That's why it reminds me a 826 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,519 lot of like American psychle where it feels like he 827 00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:13,079 has this mask up the whole time, and even when 828 00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:15,800 he sees his sister sing, he starts to cry, but 829 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,280 when she sits down, he's like playing it off. He's like, 830 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,960 I'm gonna go get us some drinks. But his boss 831 00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:21,239 kind of sells them out, like, oh no, he was 832 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,880 getting really upset and emotional here, but he doesn't talk 833 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,840 about that. He doesn't want to share that with her. 834 00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:29,440 So that's why I, for me, I love all that 835 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,199 stuff because I think there's one of just some hiding 836 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,000 his emotions and also just hiding at work. Like we 837 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,079 joke about the hard drive stuff, but that moment when 838 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,079 the very first scene they start talking about it and 839 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,599 the boss is talking about someone being filthy or something 840 00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:44,119 like that investment, and like he like looks up right 841 00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:45,920 away and then like he's talking about something else, Like 842 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,639 every time he looks like he's about to be caught. 843 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,320 You Just like I feel like all those that that 844 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,280 emotion would come out of him, which I think happens 845 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,360 at the end because it's something he's just pent up. 846 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,159 So I think you kind of need that. And that's 847 00:35:56,199 --> 00:35:58,719 also another reason why not only is the connection thing 848 00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:01,320 I sometimes one of that's another reason why he couldn't 849 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,519 sleep with that girl that he works with, because like 850 00:36:04,039 --> 00:36:07,000 he would show some of that sexual side to someone 851 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,000 else that he knows, like that's someone that knows him 852 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,960 at work or that he'd have to see again and 853 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,800 he almos doesn't want to show that like raw side 854 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,000 of him. You know, I don't think I don't think 855 00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:18,760 anything David or not David. I got screwed up because 856 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,000 his boss is named David, and of course he's named David, 857 00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:24,960 and the aliens stuff I can mess me up today 858 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,960 for some reason. But I don't think like any point 859 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,599 in this movie he's making love or he's like, that's 860 00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:34,719 not the situation. Like I think the sexual actor masturbations 861 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,519 like the exact same thing for him. 862 00:36:36,559 --> 00:36:40,559 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I feel like that's because most 863 00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:42,840 of the times that he's hooking up with people, it's 864 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,880 like that you know, it's a basement scene that Taylor 865 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,360 was talking about, or it's like him hooking up with 866 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,199 like a sex worker or like masturbating. But then there 867 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,079 is that sequence with like the when I go when 868 00:36:54,119 --> 00:36:56,480 he goes to the bar with his with his boss, 869 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,760 and like that seems like, you know, that's that's a 870 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,039 very different situation than those other ones. But it is 871 00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:04,400 the fact that it's a game for him, and a 872 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,920 big part of it is that he's kind of like 873 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,320 taking this girl who, like his boss, wasn't able to 874 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,119 hook up with, right, And that's like part of it 875 00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:13,480 for him. And that's where I find like that first 876 00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:15,440 date that he goes on with his coworker so interesting. 877 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,639 When they finally get to the subway and he's kind 878 00:37:18,639 --> 00:37:20,599 of waiting for her to like invite him and like 879 00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:22,360 continue this game, and I feel like in that moment, 880 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,320 he's still like on the chase and it's still a 881 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,000 game for him, and that's where he's like, you know, 882 00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:29,039 he probably would be able to get hard in that 883 00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:30,559 moment and have sex with her and do all that, 884 00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:33,119 but because there's like that one delay or like it 885 00:37:33,159 --> 00:37:34,800 could even be the next day when he you know, 886 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,119 pulls her into the office and starts kissing her and stuff. 887 00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:39,400 But I feel like, because that's already like changed the 888 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,159 dynamic a little bit, that's why he's like, I don't know, 889 00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:44,239 it looks at it differently than he normally does. 890 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: And with the subway scene, that's why I love the 891 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,480 beginning in the end, because clearly this woman she's like 892 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,840 looks pretty upset and emotional. In the first subway, she's 893 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,280 like pretty much in tears, and he's just like staring 894 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,079 at her creepy, and he's ready to do this. We're 895 00:37:57,119 --> 00:37:58,360 when you get to the end of the movie. He's 896 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,440 the one that's in an emotional state, doesn't really know 897 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,920 what's going on. But when she sees him, she's like 898 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,000 ray pounds. Clearly she's decided, Oh, I should have screwed 899 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,239 that guy on the subway she sees him. Yet, Oh, 900 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,320 I'm gonna do it this time where he is not 901 00:38:10,559 --> 00:38:12,199 in that type of state. And that's why I said, 902 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,679 I love the train stops then cut to black right away. 903 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:16,880 I love that. But I just love that kind of 904 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,599 flip of their I don't know what journey she's going on. 905 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,400 I don't know that. You know, we didn't get shame too, 906 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,880 but like clearly that's where just the dichotomy of the 907 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,079 switcheroo between. 908 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,639 Speaker 2: That, yeah, perfect ending you you mentioned a couple times now, 909 00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:30,599 but yeah, it is. It is the perfect way to 910 00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:32,719 end end something like this. Did he break the cycle 911 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,360 or is he gonna go right back to it? It's 912 00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:35,400 it's fantastic. 913 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I love the Indian. Yeah. I don't really 914 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,000 have anything more to say beyond that. I was really 915 00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:47,840 shocked that the sister survived. I don't know how I 916 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,079 feel about obviously, you know, no, no death is good, but. 917 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 1: It's for believability is good, he said, like a politician, 918 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,840 it's good to stop. 919 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 5: I yeah, just believability wise. I don't know. I'm not 920 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,920 an expert in medical science or anything, but like, fuck man, 921 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,280 she lost a lot of blood before he got there, 922 00:39:12,159 --> 00:39:14,480 like unless she fast traveled to the hospital, Like I 923 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,880 don't even know. Maybe maybe he donated a lot of 924 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,400 blood to save her life. But yeah, it was definitely 925 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,360 like got wrenching though of a reveal. I just found 926 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,000 like like, oh my god, I can't believe that happened. 927 00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:28,920 That's the worst case scenario. And then she lived and 928 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,480 I'm like, oh, okay, there you go. Shame too. Can't 929 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,920 wait to follow up on what happens here. 930 00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: I think as if she doesn't live, then I think 931 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,599 he's like he's done, done, he's done on the streets. 932 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 5: The bread crumbs kind of left there to make you 933 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,719 hopeful because like you guys already pointed out, like I 934 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,840 do love how the ending is left kind of unanswered 935 00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:51,559 because she makes that. 936 00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: Point too, and she when they have that conversation on 937 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,639 the couch, which I love, and that's like some of 938 00:39:54,639 --> 00:39:56,440 my figure out like later on life, She's like, oh, 939 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,880 if I get up and leave, I'm never gonna hear 940 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,320 from you again? Is that? How sad is that? And 941 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,800 I feel like that's how I like, I'm not as 942 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,639 a dramatic, but with friendship, it's like there's certain friends 943 00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:09,159 I still talk with and it's definitely like I'll message 944 00:40:09,159 --> 00:40:11,239 them or they'll message me. But there are friends where 945 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,039 it's like, thought you're good friends, but if you're not 946 00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:15,239 the person that message, never heard back from that person 947 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,280 ever again, you know, And that's where we should not be. 948 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,760 The situation with a brother sister situation especially right should 949 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,679 not be a one way and that's why, like in 950 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,360 the first act, it's like she leaves three different messages 951 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,760 of trying to get a hold and he's like, why 952 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,719 didn't you call me before you show it up? She's like, 953 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,880 I've been calling you every fucking day, like you're not 954 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,360 doing anything. But obviously he's just I think also trying 955 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,000 to protect her in away because he's not in a 956 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,360 good state. But it's just, you know, I like it. 957 00:40:41,199 --> 00:40:44,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, Carry Mulligan is fantastic here. I don't know if 958 00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:47,320 we talked about it on Promising Young Woman retro, but 959 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,119 I wonder if I feel like this must have been 960 00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:50,719 like Emerald finnl watch this movie and be like, oh, 961 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,599 I gotta get Carry Mulligan in this role, because I 962 00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:55,119 feel like there's a lot of comparisons there in terms 963 00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:59,320 of the eccentric neess of the character, someone with the 964 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,960 liveliness of it and like, you know, like the playfulness 965 00:41:02,199 --> 00:41:04,519 to some extent. So I don't know, I feel like, yeah, 966 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,360 this is like a very specific type cast that I 967 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,519 can't think of anyone else who like gets roles like this, 968 00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:12,199 but she's like kind of perfect for it. So yeah, 969 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,760 this is a surprised because I, you know, over the 970 00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:18,440 decade that we've talked about this movie, I it's just Fastbender. 971 00:41:18,519 --> 00:41:20,440 That's the only name I associate with this, like even 972 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,280 the director, which I want to talk about at some 973 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,440 point here. But yeah, it was kind of surprised as 974 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,159 here in here. And yeah she does a great job 975 00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:26,639 as usual. 976 00:41:27,039 --> 00:41:30,679 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's fantastic. She did audition, but she like 977 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,280 at somehow where it's just like she wasn't the first pick, 978 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,320 but she got the script and she flew out and 979 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,239 talked to the director and said like she needed to 980 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,360 play this role. She even said like, oh, if you 981 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,480 give me this role, we'll get a tattoo and he's like, oh, 982 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:43,840 you don't got to get a tattooed. 983 00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:45,079 Speaker 2: Leaving voicemails on his uh. 984 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,679 Speaker 1: If you get the tattoo. Absolutely got this role as 985 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,320 like a joking way. But yeah, no, she's she's fantastic. 986 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,159 I guess I always do forget about her because like 987 00:41:54,639 --> 00:41:57,360 she is in the back half like a lot, but 988 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,920 at the same time not like she kind of goes 989 00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:03,239 in and out right, she's off somewhere. And another scene 990 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,880 I really love is the subway scene between those two 991 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,920 because at first when they meet, it's like contentious. It 992 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,880 seems like he doesn't want her there. But that's just 993 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,599 the scene of them joking around where he has the 994 00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:16,000 fluff on his jacket and he takes her hat and 995 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,639 there's lots of you know. She says like, oh, I'm singing, 996 00:42:18,679 --> 00:42:20,360 and he's like, oh, I'll come out to see your show. 997 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,440 And that's what's interesting is he finds out about it 998 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,320 and he's he's gonna go, you know that, That's what's 999 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,280 so odd. 1000 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 5: Seems like he was initially going to though, and then 1001 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,599 she's like I really want you to come, like yeah, really, 1002 00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:34,599 really you got to be there. Then he's like okay, 1003 00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:37,039 I'll be there. Like more so of like, okay, you 1004 00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:39,239 caught me. I was an action you would. 1005 00:42:39,079 --> 00:42:42,079 Speaker 2: Have gone without the boss kind of inviting himself. 1006 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 1: I think he would have. I think the Boss was 1007 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,239 just a great mistake that, Yeah, it would. 1008 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 5: Have been better if if you didn't accept David Taylor. 1009 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: You got any bosses like that, you know? Yeah, it 1010 00:42:51,639 --> 00:42:53,920 seems like I caught you laughing a couple times when 1011 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,639 we talk about him and the hard drive stuff. So 1012 00:42:56,519 --> 00:42:57,320 I just cause you like. 1013 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 3: All that stuff, I didn't know the context before when 1014 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,840 you used to send that, uh like that gift of 1015 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,039 just Fastbender setting in the doorway and just his look 1016 00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:08,519 of disbelief, just like he. 1017 00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: Thinks it's over for him when he's just his face. 1018 00:43:11,199 --> 00:43:14,079 Speaker 3: Is amazing and oh yeah that that was really really funny, 1019 00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:20,639 and so seeing that, Yeah. 1020 00:43:18,599 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 2: That's when the boss is like I don't even know 1021 00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:21,239 what a cream bay is. 1022 00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:25,280 Speaker 1: Like just ainal double a durational, it's. 1023 00:43:25,199 --> 00:43:26,039 Speaker 2: Like a double adele. 1024 00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 5: That was like, oh man, that's some categories I've never saw. 1025 00:43:29,679 --> 00:43:31,519 Speaker 1: And that's just so good. Like he gets so many 1026 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,159 accidental outs, right, He's like Al must have been your intern. 1027 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,519 He's like my fucking intern, Like like he didn't even 1028 00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:39,559 say that. He just was like and it almost suddens 1029 00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:41,679 feel like a killer that kind of wants to get 1030 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,159 caught but like doesn't. Like that's it's interesting because he 1031 00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:46,719 didn't make an excuse, but his boss gave him the intern, 1032 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:46,960 you know. 1033 00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:49,679 Speaker 2: So yeah, question question I had about the sequence because 1034 00:43:49,679 --> 00:43:51,920 I feel like the timing was he really convenient or 1035 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,400 just kind of weird of that being a reveal and 1036 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,000 then like very shortly after is when the coworker kind 1037 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,639 of goes up to him and and like flirt with 1038 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,559 him a little bit, or like one asked, like gone 1039 00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:03,440 and dating sugar? 1040 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 1: Yeah there's yeah, windows Yeah. 1041 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 2: So like did she did she like did she find 1042 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,880 out about this porn thing? And then like ooh, maybe 1043 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,320 he'd be into it, because like that would be a 1044 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,760 weird thing. But also the timing of it seemed like 1045 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,800 that would have been the reason for her to do that. Finally, 1046 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,320 I don't know, it seemed off to me. 1047 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,199 Speaker 1: I don't think so, because I think only he would 1048 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,599 have I would hope the boss wouldn't have shared that 1049 00:44:25,639 --> 00:44:27,320 with a bunch of other people. Obviously she could have 1050 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,800 found out, but I think it was just the timing 1051 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,119 of Fastbenner gets away with one thing and then like, Okay, 1052 00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:35,039 we're gonna throw like another curveball at him, Like, Oh, 1053 00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:36,840 here's this girl from work. But I don't think she 1054 00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:39,360 I don't think she knew, because. 1055 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,639 Speaker 2: That would be confirm that would probably be not a 1056 00:44:42,679 --> 00:44:45,239 turn on for I'm gonna say ninety nine percent of people. 1057 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,639 Speaker 4: But I don't know. 1058 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:47,679 Speaker 2: It was interesting. 1059 00:44:48,199 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, Taylor, any pauses or negatives you want to talk. 1060 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:59,559 Speaker 3: About, Oh, my goodness, I don't know where my positives 1061 00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:02,599 are becau. I feel like it's just it's repetition, repetition 1062 00:45:02,679 --> 00:45:04,719 where he's just he's having sex with this person. He's 1063 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,920 beaten off and he's having sex with this person. I mean, 1064 00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:09,760 you guys highlighted some things that I will I will 1065 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,639 say are positives, like some of the moments where he 1066 00:45:14,639 --> 00:45:17,039 tries to save his sister and realizing, you know, him's 1067 00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:19,920 the only one that is ever consistent in his life, 1068 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,119 and the idea like oh if she goes, then yeah, 1069 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,280 he's got no one left, like then never talk to 1070 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,840 each other again. That is some pretty heavy stuff for 1071 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:33,199 the story. But I guess I do feel bad for 1072 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,199 him that he kind of wanted to try with this 1073 00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:40,519 co worker, but that it didn't work out, and that 1074 00:45:40,639 --> 00:45:44,719 and the ultimately I interpreted it as he didn't want 1075 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,960 to use her or make her feel like shit, rather 1076 00:45:49,039 --> 00:45:51,800 than how he would feel with that coming into the workplace. 1077 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,719 I feel like he kind of felt like how he 1078 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,599 didn't want to like alienate her or do anything weird 1079 00:45:55,639 --> 00:45:58,280 with her. But ultimately, like after she leaves, which if 1080 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,119 that ever happens, you do that with a girl, like 1081 00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:02,000 it's fucking done. Like I don't know how you ever 1082 00:46:02,039 --> 00:46:04,480 come back from that if you're going down having fun 1083 00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:08,719 and then like you know, just you stop and then 1084 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,239 they leave, Like I don't know how you come back 1085 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:11,559 from that. 1086 00:46:11,639 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 4: But I was the. 1087 00:46:12,679 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 1: Boner, I see, Yeah, yeah, I thought you meant the 1088 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,079 lady right after, because that's probably a deal breaker too, 1089 00:46:18,199 --> 00:46:19,800 you know, the window lady. 1090 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 4: So the window lady, Yeah. 1091 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 1: The same lady from the bar, which always that threw 1092 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,679 me off because it's like similar body type in their 1093 00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:30,280 blonde hair. But it's not the boss that he like, 1094 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,440 the business lady he meets up with in the alley 1095 00:46:33,519 --> 00:46:36,320 or whatever. I assumed it was just another process, just 1096 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,519 another prot. 1097 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 3: That scene in the other bar that kind of cracked 1098 00:46:41,039 --> 00:46:44,639 me up when the girl walked over and he's just 1099 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,119 like just laying it down hard, like i'll you and 1100 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:49,760 just like gets his hands. 1101 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,039 Speaker 4: She was in there, she. 1102 00:46:51,079 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 5: Was getting into it. 1103 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 3: Then he walks over and then I'm in a paraphrase, 1104 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,840 but he's like, yeah, I will, I'll fuck her in 1105 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:01,400 the ass. 1106 00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 4: And then he was. 1107 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 3: Just like, you won't even let me do that, Like 1108 00:47:04,039 --> 00:47:06,039 he looks and says to his correct. 1109 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 1: And the the laughs that Fastpenner gives, like he it's 1110 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,280 only that he's arrogant. There's he's just like almost evil 1111 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,480 in that scene the whey he's just like he's just 1112 00:47:17,519 --> 00:47:20,280 picking anybody to kind of ruin their life or ruin 1113 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,400 their day, or he doesn't care about this person this situation, 1114 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,400 like he and obviously he probably has a couple of 1115 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:26,960 drinks in him too, but he's just in such a 1116 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,519 self destructive mode. And then he gets his ass kicked 1117 00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:32,320 right outside. But yeah, he's that's where and then like 1118 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,400 that's why I like that montage because he goes there, 1119 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,880 he tries to go in this nightclub, which again that's 1120 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,119 where some people go back and forth of how much 1121 00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:41,199 they like the subtext or not. I like that they 1122 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,159 won't let him in and he tries to get into 1123 00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:45,000 like not tonight, man. So it's like they say that 1124 00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:48,880 away where it's like they know whatever he's I don't 1125 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,559 know what he's doing in this club. Like I'm not 1126 00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:52,440 saying he's doing anything illegal. I don't think that, but 1127 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,960 it just like he has a reputation in other places 1128 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,639 where he'm like, we're not letting you in tonight. 1129 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,559 Speaker 2: For maybe like sneaks him a fifty a bunch of 1130 00:47:58,599 --> 00:47:59,920 times to get into, yeah. 1131 00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:02,199 Speaker 1: Or even that situation. Maybe he's done that same thing 1132 00:48:02,199 --> 00:48:03,519 that girl did in the bar. Maybe he's done in 1133 00:48:03,559 --> 00:48:05,360 the club where he's done that somebody in the fights 1134 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,480 broke out like clearly, and that's where he has to 1135 00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:10,360 go to this like red light district, you know, with 1136 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,639 a bunch of people he really doesn't know, and I 1137 00:48:12,639 --> 00:48:15,159 don't know. They don't confirm it he was with men 1138 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,840 or not before, but like I feel like they kind 1139 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,800 of make it like it's his first time and that 1140 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,880 shows that maybe like the whole movie, he's been with women, 1141 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,280 but like that's where he is where either whether he's 1142 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,239 discovering a new sexuality or he doesn't even care who, 1143 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,920 like the vessel is he just needs somebody there to 1144 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,800 please him and whatnot. And then right after that he 1145 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,440 like gets to prostatous and does a three way like 1146 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,000 he's just like onto, like he's on like a side 1147 00:48:37,039 --> 00:48:47,079 quest of just like shameful. Uh yeah, that's episode which 1148 00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:48,880 I did find out. It was funny enough about me 1149 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,599 and Emily. I well, I had to do it. Emily 1150 00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:52,599 had a good left, but I so we're going through. 1151 00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:54,519 I have the blu ray of this and I had 1152 00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:57,159 to turn the subtitles on because the baby's luckily they're 1153 00:48:57,159 --> 00:48:59,320 not seeing this, but there's sometimes loud. But I saw 1154 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,800 a different thing and it was English French and then 1155 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,840 it was English three. I was like, oh, what's that. 1156 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,920 It's descriptive video. So we did go back and watch 1157 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,800 the three way. With the scriptive video. It is like 1158 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,800 a romance novel when you're especially with the music, but 1159 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,199 the way the descriptive narrators just like he takes his 1160 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,320 powerful hands on her smooth bottom and like, oh, my 1161 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,920 favorite term is the girl licks her out. That was 1162 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,320 a term that thinks, yeah, licks her out. So the 1163 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,280 whole other experience for shame there. But one thing I 1164 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:36,119 will say too is like jokes aside. I really like 1165 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,719 the way the Three Way shot, like it's like how 1166 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,679 bright it is with the score. There's no sound like 1167 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,440 there's no sound of like the moaning or brand or 1168 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,320 anything like that. It's just like sterile. And it's just 1169 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,199 because I feel like they're trying to make you really 1170 00:49:52,199 --> 00:49:54,719 sit with like, yeah, this guy is just doing anything 1171 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,679 to get his rocks off, and instead she's like, oh, 1172 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,280 he goes in a hotel room with three women. She's like, yeah, 1173 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,639 you're gonna sit at this scene for two minutes and 1174 00:50:01,679 --> 00:50:05,159 you're gonna see the full act of this. 1175 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:10,320 Speaker 6: Then you scared me. 1176 00:50:11,079 --> 00:50:12,840 Speaker 1: But then all's the act of all this is happening, 1177 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,960 is like you know, his sister's like phony, im costantly 1178 00:50:15,039 --> 00:50:16,599 trying to get a hold of this right and even 1179 00:50:16,639 --> 00:50:19,000 at the end of that, he's like almost crying at 1180 00:50:19,039 --> 00:50:20,599 the end of Three Way, like he's going through all 1181 00:50:20,639 --> 00:50:23,199 this stuff. So and again, kudos to those actors. And 1182 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,679 I'm sure that was not an easy day to ish, 1183 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,519 Like I'm sure that's not like a fun because everyone 1184 00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:29,400 says sex scene sucks, So I imagine that was like 1185 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,000 a that's probably like a four to five hour day 1186 00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:35,280 of you're just naked together, and because it's not even 1187 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,239 like a quick sex scene, it's like a two minute 1188 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,920 slow motion not also much but just like hard zoom 1189 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,760 in on private areas and again show I got a 1190 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,639 intribute it but showed a fastbener who's just naked costly 1191 00:50:46,679 --> 00:50:48,599 in this movie. You know he has a reason for 1192 00:50:48,679 --> 00:50:52,480 doing it. But uh yeah, I like cinematically how they. 1193 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,360 Speaker 4: Just having fun man making movies. 1194 00:50:57,199 --> 00:50:59,079 Speaker 5: Set him on the red carpet, just just talk. 1195 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,679 Speaker 2: It's like, how was this experience fun man? 1196 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:02,519 Speaker 4: Big adventure? 1197 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 2: Yeah going? 1198 00:51:05,079 --> 00:51:05,360 Speaker 4: Uh. 1199 00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 2: I wanted to mention after after that bar scene when 1200 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,480 he's kind of flirting with that girl and then the 1201 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,760 boyfriend beats him up in the alley way and then 1202 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,920 he's kind of that's not not quite as rock Bottom, 1203 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,320 but he's like pretty damn close to it. The music 1204 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,639 and that sequence is amazing. It's very it's very much 1205 00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:23,800 like the ending of Inception when like they've finished the 1206 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,519 heist and like you know, they're crawling out of the water, 1207 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,119 when like out of the van sequence when they're doing 1208 00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:31,360 the kicks, and it's just like that slow like to 1209 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,840 me is like a very melancholy, real like nostalgic sort 1210 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,519 of tone to it. Yeah, mixed really well with that 1211 00:51:37,519 --> 00:51:39,039 that kind of sequence. So I don't know if this 1212 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,199 I don't know if the composer was inspired by I've 1213 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,360 seen it all, but it felt very very similar to me. 1214 00:51:44,599 --> 00:51:46,920 But it worked. It worked really well, and like, yeah, 1215 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,199 I feel like, as you mentioned, Travis, like these scenes 1216 00:51:49,199 --> 00:51:51,800 could be very different were it not for like the 1217 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,000 score choice here, like it really it really changes the 1218 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,639 tone of a lot of stuff. And yeah, sometimes the 1219 00:51:57,679 --> 00:52:00,800 silence is powerful too, so it is it goes good music. 1220 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,280 But that was definitely the height for me on the 1221 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,320 soundtrack side of things. 1222 00:52:03,519 --> 00:52:06,039 Speaker 1: And he's not done much too for other films when 1223 00:52:06,039 --> 00:52:08,119 he's on a lot of the TV shows, so he's 1224 00:52:08,119 --> 00:52:10,800 still working. But it just it's a score that I 1225 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,920 I remember hearing back then and just being like, oh man, 1226 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,280 I bet I'm missing this kind a bunch of other 1227 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,000 places and I didn't. But Tay, you like score stuff, 1228 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,639 did you like the music here? Is that's still negative 1229 00:52:18,639 --> 00:52:19,079 for you too. 1230 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,679 Speaker 3: I was trying to remember some of the score because 1231 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,000 I can't. I can't recall really. I feel like it 1232 00:52:25,039 --> 00:52:28,400 was more more or less just a quiet film. I 1233 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,239 don't remember. 1234 00:52:29,159 --> 00:52:32,639 Speaker 1: Much of the score kind of like don't set. It's 1235 00:52:32,679 --> 00:52:36,960 more melancholl. It's not big like's going on on top 1236 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,960 of that's like the quietness of the score too. 1237 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 4: I feel like there really wasn't. 1238 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 3: A lot of dialogue in here, and I think I'm 1239 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,679 curious at what point, like how many minutes in is 1240 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,559 like the first actual line spoken, because I feel like 1241 00:52:48,599 --> 00:52:52,480 it's just silent and it's just like body language really, 1242 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:53,519 and I think it's. 1243 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,119 Speaker 2: In that bed for a couple of minutes before we 1244 00:52:55,159 --> 00:52:56,440 can get up and go anywhere. 1245 00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, I guess it's actually I think it just 1246 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,960 be him when he's talking in the prostitute, the first prostitute, 1247 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,000 and he asks her for a drink and she che 1248 00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:07,760 denies them and stuff and then they go and slowly 1249 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:12,440 slowly and you know, all that stuff going on. But yeah, uh, 1250 00:53:12,639 --> 00:53:15,440 and then and the thing that's always curious for me too, 1251 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,480 is he That's where if I could have a little 1252 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,480 bit more time, that moment in the middle when he 1253 00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:25,440 does throw at everything, and again it's just stupid, but 1254 00:53:25,559 --> 00:53:28,360 I just find it so hilarious when he's throwing everything 1255 00:53:28,679 --> 00:53:30,800 and then there's just a smash cut to like a 1256 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,320 massive bowl pasta and he throws it out too, like 1257 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,440 I don't know why. It just breaks the tension for 1258 00:53:35,519 --> 00:53:38,039 me that moment, like it's a traumatic moment. But there's 1259 00:53:38,119 --> 00:53:40,639 a few just smash cuts, same thing of when he's 1260 00:53:40,679 --> 00:53:43,400 when his boss and you can see his boss being slimey, 1261 00:53:43,559 --> 00:53:45,280 just like, oh, I gotta see you again, all that stuff, 1262 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,960 And then the next smash cut is they're the back 1263 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,320 of the taxi cab. They're making out and it's a 1264 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,719 hard zoom like he's looking out the window wishing to 1265 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,960 be anywhere else, like he's as close to the glass 1266 00:53:56,079 --> 00:53:58,400 as could be. Uh So there's a couple of those 1267 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,239 in the movie, just like this just smash cut. But 1268 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,559 uh yeah, if anything for like more I wanted. It's 1269 00:54:04,599 --> 00:54:07,599 kind of like why he like, for a moment wanted 1270 00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:08,800 to get rid of all that stuff. I know why 1271 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,480 because he feels like a little shame of himself. But 1272 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,559 then he kind of I guess maybe it has to 1273 00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:14,920 do with peaks and valleys because like he it's almost like, okay, 1274 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,639 I could change, but then when it comes back, it's 1275 00:54:16,639 --> 00:54:18,599 like much worse because that's when he's doing his like 1276 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,519 Joe Goldberg thing. He is the hood up and he's 1277 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,840 look very ominous and the subways and whatnot. But yeah, 1278 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,559 lots of bags and whoever picked that up garbage man 1279 00:54:27,679 --> 00:54:29,599 must have had a lot of a lot of questions 1280 00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:32,079 going on because that's especially in the digital age, that's 1281 00:54:32,119 --> 00:54:34,239 a lot of a lot of material there. 1282 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,880 Speaker 5: So it reminded me of the sequence and substance when 1283 00:54:39,639 --> 00:54:41,760 I can't remember what their names were, but the one 1284 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,199 version comes back and it's just a mess and just 1285 00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:50,480 like a mass clean up. No I I did like that. 1286 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,960 That just sequence of him just it's like it's like 1287 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,920 a drug addict being like I got to change right now, 1288 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,559 and he just flushes all the drugs and it's like 1289 00:54:57,559 --> 00:54:59,639 this is how I'm going to change, like make these steps, 1290 00:54:59,679 --> 00:55:02,159 and it like, it just perplexed me that he threw 1291 00:55:02,159 --> 00:55:07,159 out the entire laptop like it was so dirty that 1292 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,199 like he can't he can't even just wipe it and 1293 00:55:09,199 --> 00:55:11,000 go back to the factory settings. 1294 00:55:11,039 --> 00:55:11,400 Speaker 2: It is. 1295 00:55:11,559 --> 00:55:15,599 Speaker 5: It is so dirty that whole laptop just garbage bagged it, 1296 00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:17,519 which is not how you're supposed to throw it electronics. 1297 00:55:17,519 --> 00:55:19,079 So that's definitely illegal the way he did that. 1298 00:55:19,159 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 1: But tire straights, Yeah, I don't think he was in 1299 00:55:22,039 --> 00:55:23,920 his uh right mind there when that happened. 1300 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 2: Do they even recycle in New York? I don't know. 1301 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,760 Speaker 5: I feel like it's just the rats take it and 1302 00:55:30,159 --> 00:55:32,280 start working on there. 1303 00:55:36,079 --> 00:55:38,800 Speaker 2: Random thing I just found funny in this movie. You know, 1304 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,800 like so much of it is because you know, again 1305 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,639 like an internal monologue. You're like trying to get into 1306 00:55:43,679 --> 00:55:45,079 his head a little bit, trying to figure out what 1307 00:55:45,079 --> 00:55:47,360 he's thinking in these moments, and it's funny. Just like 1308 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,519 different scenes in this like he'll just open door for 1309 00:55:49,559 --> 00:55:51,480 a girl and then he'll like check her out, and 1310 00:55:51,519 --> 00:55:52,920 it might be like a little scene, but then there's 1311 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,239 moments there's a couple I feel like he opens a 1312 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,480 door for an old lady or at one point on 1313 00:55:57,519 --> 00:56:00,440 the subway, yeah, or at one point he like getting 1314 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,199 off the subway and then an old lady's like getting 1315 00:56:02,199 --> 00:56:04,480 off the subway and it's like, Okay, see, is this 1316 00:56:04,599 --> 00:56:06,400 like his next to fix? He's gonna go for like 1317 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,440 an old lady, Like that's the next thing he wants 1318 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,159 to do here. But I feel like I started to 1319 00:56:10,199 --> 00:56:13,239 overthink that of like every interaction that he was having, 1320 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,360 like what is he thinking here? And is this somebody 1321 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,719 he's gonna try in court to get his rocks off. 1322 00:56:19,199 --> 00:56:21,079 Speaker 1: Well, and that's what's interesting. Like I think at the 1323 00:56:21,199 --> 00:56:23,280 end he's seeking out. But in a lot of the things, 1324 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,000 like with the date with the co worker, like I said, 1325 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,519 there's lots of weird things people talk about, like when 1326 00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:30,519 the sister asks, like will you come to the show? 1327 00:56:30,559 --> 00:56:32,719 Of course was that the coworker when she asked, do 1328 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,079 you want some sugar? And like, clearly she's talking about coffee, 1329 00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:38,039 But there's multiple there's something too about oh, it's when 1330 00:56:38,039 --> 00:56:40,719 the waiter's asking him if he likes it pink. There's 1331 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,599 there's multiple things throughout the film. They're all like indu 1332 00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:46,599 windows and with the coworker and even the beginning with 1333 00:56:46,639 --> 00:56:50,400 that lady, he doesn't initialize that like flirtation. He doesn't 1334 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,280 go after she pulls the side like oh do you 1335 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,280 need a ride? And he doesn't fight he's, oh yeah absolutely. 1336 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,119 But there's multiple times in the film where he is 1337 00:56:58,159 --> 00:57:00,199 looking for that stuff, but he's still like getting like 1338 00:57:00,599 --> 00:57:03,599 almost it's like it's the trouble's still kind of finding him. 1339 00:57:03,639 --> 00:57:06,920 It's presenting himself. And but like I said, I really 1340 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,119 like how the Boss actor James delle badgerly he just 1341 00:57:10,159 --> 00:57:12,199 plays he's such a good asshole or such a good 1342 00:57:12,199 --> 00:57:14,920 idiot when he's doing the whole flirting with them and 1343 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,079 like oh, what's your eye color and all this stuff 1344 00:57:17,119 --> 00:57:19,480 and they make fast been a very smooth also in 1345 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:20,920 that bar scene, that's when like this guy could be 1346 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,559 bond because he's like, oh, it's brown and stuff. But 1347 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,320 they just each time, And I love the back and 1348 00:57:25,559 --> 00:57:28,079 or the kind of one two where that scene happens 1349 00:57:28,119 --> 00:57:29,880 with Sissy and then the next day he's like on 1350 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:31,840 a zoom call with his kid and his fucking wife, 1351 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,920 So like you're right away and you're like, oh, not 1352 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,599 only is he just kind of like every night just 1353 00:57:35,639 --> 00:57:37,599 trying to like get some ass, he also has like 1354 00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:40,000 a family at home, so like the boss just continually 1355 00:57:40,519 --> 00:57:42,320 he is like a worse and worse character. We never 1356 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:42,960 really turned back. 1357 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,119 Speaker 4: They're not divorced. I assume that they were. 1358 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 1: I don't think so. No. I I could be wrong, 1359 00:57:48,039 --> 00:57:50,280 but I think that's what that's kind of trying to imploy, 1360 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,239 because the way he kind of has the back and 1361 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,800 forth with his son, it feels like he's still relatively 1362 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,199 close with the mom there, like it just felt like 1363 00:57:58,239 --> 00:58:02,599 a call and I can't remember her. No, he what's 1364 00:58:02,599 --> 00:58:05,079 his brand? Says that about because he has his wedding ring. 1365 00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:07,559 He tells us about that, and he's my married boss, 1366 00:58:07,559 --> 00:58:11,800 so he does confirm that. Yeah, he's just out there. 1367 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,320 And then they actressis you never see that boss guy again? 1368 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:21,079 He's just going through hard drives. Yeah, anything else. 1369 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 5: With the business lady in that that sequence of course 1370 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,840 fast he ends up hooking up with her in the 1371 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:37,159 in the dirty alleyway uh later on that evening. I 1372 00:58:37,239 --> 00:58:40,159 just I just couldn't believe how immature it was that 1373 00:58:40,239 --> 00:58:43,159 she drove him home after just doing shots and like 1374 00:58:43,199 --> 00:58:46,079 partying up all night and she's just like driving this man. 1375 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:51,039 Uh definitely big no, no, a big red flag. Maybe 1376 00:58:51,239 --> 00:58:53,480 we didn't see them get out of the car. 1377 00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:54,639 Speaker 2: You never again. 1378 00:58:54,760 --> 00:59:02,079 Speaker 6: So yeah, and then the when when Brendan comes home, 1379 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,199 Sissy's in the in the bathroom, but he just thinks 1380 00:59:05,199 --> 00:59:07,239 a burglar or something there and he grabs his trusty 1381 00:59:07,239 --> 00:59:08,920 baseball bat you know in the closet. 1382 00:59:09,599 --> 00:59:11,599 Speaker 5: I got that same home defense weapon right in the 1383 00:59:11,599 --> 00:59:14,159 same location, ready to go. So I like to see 1384 00:59:14,199 --> 00:59:17,000 the slugger, the uh, the slugger ready to go. 1385 00:59:17,079 --> 00:59:19,199 Speaker 1: I would say where mine is just for in cases. 1386 00:59:19,199 --> 00:59:20,960 But I got a police it's. 1387 00:59:20,559 --> 00:59:23,599 Speaker 5: Not my last one. It's my it's one of my I. 1388 00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:25,559 Speaker 1: Should get too. Yeah, that's a good call. I should 1389 00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:27,199 get another one. But yeah, I got a police baton. 1390 00:59:27,239 --> 00:59:29,199 That's what I got, So I should. 1391 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 2: I should get that figured out. I don't think I 1392 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:32,559 have enough self defense. 1393 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 1: I should. 1394 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:34,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, booby traps. 1395 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 1: Mine has a risk thing, so if people were to 1396 00:59:36,519 --> 00:59:41,440 try to grab it, it's a wrist blayeet that too 1397 00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,679 get them. 1398 00:59:44,679 --> 00:59:47,920 Speaker 2: Watched camp Bit style just chucking playing cards with people. 1399 00:59:48,159 --> 00:59:53,719 Speaker 1: You remember the name one of me that shot at 1400 00:59:53,719 --> 00:59:55,599 the baseball that when he picks up like her scarf 1401 00:59:55,639 --> 00:59:57,239 and it's this weird like red leg it has a 1402 00:59:57,239 --> 00:59:59,599 bunch of balls and she's again there's little moments of 1403 00:59:59,679 --> 01:00:02,000 the kind of break the tension. But again they set 1404 01:00:02,039 --> 01:00:03,719 you up right away because she's just falling naked and 1405 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,360 they're throwing that cowl back and forth and no issues 1406 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:10,039 whatsoever with it. Like most time you see your sibling naked, 1407 01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:12,599 you're gonna run away in fear or try to avoid 1408 01:00:12,639 --> 01:00:15,400 that situation. But they're completely just kind of calm and 1409 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,000 cool with it. And again they just kind of talk 1410 01:00:17,039 --> 01:00:19,440 about where they came from. We don't know what that means. 1411 01:00:19,519 --> 01:00:22,760 Speaker 2: But mm hmm, Travis, I wanted to ask you about 1412 01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:26,280 so Steve McQueen. I'm sure I've heard this guy's name before, 1413 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,519 but like I truly couldn't recall, even though you know, 1414 01:00:29,679 --> 01:00:31,280 Twelve Years of Slave is a big movie, and like 1415 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,400 I've heard of some of his other movies, but I 1416 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,920 want to ask you about this because like specifically I 1417 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,239 looked this up and like, looks like him and Fastpender 1418 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,679 kind of did three movies back to back together, Twelve 1419 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,559 Years of Slave, where I don't think he was the star, 1420 01:00:42,599 --> 01:00:44,440 and then Hunger I think he maybe was the star, 1421 01:00:44,559 --> 01:00:47,159 so messed up it was. Yeah, yeah, but obviously, like 1422 01:00:47,199 --> 01:00:49,519 this movie means a lot too, like outside of whoever 1423 01:00:49,519 --> 01:00:51,400 the director is, whoever the actor is, like because of 1424 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,239 its time and place. But yeah, what what do you 1425 01:00:53,239 --> 01:00:55,519 think of those other movies and are they up there 1426 01:00:55,559 --> 01:00:57,559 for you as like favorites or was this kind of 1427 01:00:57,599 --> 01:00:58,719 just like a one off special. 1428 01:00:59,239 --> 01:01:01,239 Speaker 1: I think it's a one special. Hunger is like a 1429 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,360 really tough watch, but it's really good. But I need 1430 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:07,599 to watch that because I watched that directly after this, 1431 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,599 like not too far back. But then I've never returned 1432 01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:11,320 back to it, so I should have, like an older age, 1433 01:01:11,679 --> 01:01:14,280 twelve years of Slave I think is probably a ten 1434 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,320 and ten movie. It's just I've watched that once and 1435 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,159 that's one of those where it's like that's a tough 1436 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,400 that's a very tough watch. And obviously it's you know, 1437 01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:24,440 it's not the greatest world because he's a slave owner. 1438 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,280 But like I'm so I should have won the Oscar 1439 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,480 over Jared Letto. I thought fast, but I was grand there. 1440 01:01:29,559 --> 01:01:31,599 Lapita won an Oscar for that, and Truetail Edge of 1441 01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:33,800 four is great. So that for like, if we're talking 1442 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,280 about when you talk like the favorites versus the best 1443 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,960 of like in a best category, if you're talking about 1444 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,719 that like very important films, I put it up there. 1445 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,559 Actually I did see it twice one time it was 1446 01:01:43,599 --> 01:01:46,119 on Netflix, but it's not up there as a favorite 1447 01:01:46,119 --> 01:01:48,639 just because I couldn't. It's not like Jangle, where it's 1448 01:01:48,639 --> 01:01:51,199 like you got that slap sticky spaghetti western where you 1449 01:01:51,239 --> 01:01:53,559 can have a lot of fun while covering some tough 1450 01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:56,440 stuff like I can't shame for some reason, I could 1451 01:01:56,519 --> 01:01:58,800 watch every day for multiple reasons because I like the 1452 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,000 movie and the meaning but twelve year slaves alls they 1453 01:02:01,039 --> 01:02:04,440 couldn't and then Windows, I remember thinking was fine. And 1454 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:08,679 I haven't seen his newest one with Schircy Ronan, which 1455 01:02:08,719 --> 01:02:10,719 I think I heard was kind of also just kind 1456 01:02:10,719 --> 01:02:14,599 of fine as well, but I still would There's rumor 1457 01:02:14,679 --> 01:02:16,679 that he's tookn Mean for bonds, and I would like 1458 01:02:17,239 --> 01:02:19,480 some of that stuff. I obviously couldn't have a shame. 1459 01:02:19,559 --> 01:02:22,360 Bond would have to be a bit more snappier, and 1460 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,760 I don't think fast Spenders young enough now to be bond, 1461 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,039 but I wish that happened. And yeah, I don't know 1462 01:02:27,039 --> 01:02:29,519 why they haven't worked together. It's kind of like Nolan 1463 01:02:29,599 --> 01:02:31,960 and Bail. They did four movies together and they've never 1464 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,119 worked together again. I don't understand. Maybe it's just they 1465 01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:37,480 feel they've done enough together. But like every time there's 1466 01:02:37,519 --> 01:02:39,719 an old movie, I'm like, Okay, is him and Bail 1467 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,760 back together? And Nope, it's not. It's not there. And 1468 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,199 same thing that's felt like a Denaro Squersse where oh 1469 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,480 they're gonna be together forever, and then after twelve years 1470 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,760 of slave, it's just they haven't done anything. So I 1471 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:49,119 don't know. 1472 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know much about him. But 1473 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,639 obviously I was like looking him up a little bit, 1474 01:02:53,679 --> 01:02:55,800 and it seems like he's a big advocate for just 1475 01:02:56,039 --> 01:02:59,679 more diversity and trying to uplift, you know, like people 1476 01:02:59,679 --> 01:03:02,599 of color stuff. So maybe maybe he's like putting just 1477 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,800 more black people in like the leading role and not 1478 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,960 looking for like the Fastbender to fill in a role 1479 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,519 like that. But I don't know. I haven't looked at 1480 01:03:08,719 --> 01:03:11,159 the things he's doing. But maybe that's no part of 1481 01:03:11,199 --> 01:03:11,679 the reason why. 1482 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:16,159 Speaker 1: Y yeah, it could be it anything else in particular, 1483 01:03:16,239 --> 01:03:21,760 before I do trivia and we do our our overall thoughts. 1484 01:03:22,599 --> 01:03:25,320 Speaker 2: I think I'm empty like Fastbender many times. 1485 01:03:27,159 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 5: He was really empty. 1486 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:33,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he has an ever flowing I'll stop there. 1487 01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,360 Speaker 1: So he was thinking of that train. Am I empty? 1488 01:03:35,519 --> 01:03:35,719 Speaker 4: You know? 1489 01:03:36,239 --> 01:03:38,039 Speaker 1: The last scene I really like. I think I have 1490 01:03:38,119 --> 01:03:41,360 it in Trivia somewhere. Yeah. I love the sissy singing 1491 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,599 scene the cover of New York, New York. It's a 1492 01:03:43,599 --> 01:03:46,519 great thing, just the times of Trivia, the scene where 1493 01:03:46,519 --> 01:03:49,519 Brandon here's his sister singing. It was the first time. Sorry, 1494 01:03:49,519 --> 01:03:52,119 the guy's name is James Badge Dale. What a what 1495 01:03:52,239 --> 01:03:56,400 a name? Michael Fastbard ever heard Carrie Milligan sing this 1496 01:03:56,519 --> 01:03:59,199 was shot three am in some bar, so that was 1497 01:03:59,239 --> 01:04:02,360 a probably probably it's probably like a popular bar in 1498 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,719 New York that they could only get at that time. 1499 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:06,559 Or maybe it's just that fill at three am. I 1500 01:04:06,559 --> 01:04:09,280 don't know, but Kirkland tear anything else. 1501 01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:13,079 Speaker 2: That was the only do you want trivia? 1502 01:04:13,519 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, sorry, I just tied that to Okay. I 1503 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,679 just really like the scene. I like it is a 1504 01:04:19,679 --> 01:04:22,039 longer scene, but I like the pacing of her singing 1505 01:04:22,039 --> 01:04:25,000 you back to Fastbender. It's just this moment of kind 1506 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,559 of you know, realize, you know, kind of seeing his 1507 01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:30,239 system in that light. Don't don't go to give a 1508 01:04:30,239 --> 01:04:33,400 long explanation quick answer for Fastbender's question on the date, 1509 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,320 would you rather go back in the past or in 1510 01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,719 the future? Dull muss He said he wants he wants 1511 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,039 me a sixties jazz singer. Remember he's talking about that. 1512 01:04:42,559 --> 01:04:44,280 Speaker 2: So how far in the past, how far in the 1513 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:45,719 future for this day? 1514 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:47,960 Speaker 1: You just in the past the future? 1515 01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:52,039 Speaker 4: Okay, Taylor, they're gonna go past? 1516 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,519 Speaker 5: Okay, Kirkland, is it like a visit or like this 1517 01:04:55,599 --> 01:04:56,159 is my new. 1518 01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,400 Speaker 1: Brandon just threw this question out there. 1519 01:04:59,679 --> 01:05:00,519 Speaker 4: I'm go past. 1520 01:05:00,679 --> 01:05:03,920 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go, yeah, see how the Pyramids were made 1521 01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:04,800 and then come back. 1522 01:05:06,239 --> 01:05:08,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would go past unless they told me you 1523 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,559 could like butterfly flex stuff. Then I'm not going because 1524 01:05:11,559 --> 01:05:12,079 I don't want to. 1525 01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 5: Make it come back with stubs or something. 1526 01:05:15,639 --> 01:05:17,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to find out how the Pyramids 1527 01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:19,920 were made, you just got to watch a very particular 1528 01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,760 movie from the year nineteen ninety four. Cool. 1529 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,280 Speaker 5: I haven't come across that one yet. I haven't come 1530 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,400 across that one yet. I'm excited Tria. 1531 01:05:29,639 --> 01:05:31,719 Speaker 1: The first time Michael Fastmaner saw this film was with 1532 01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:39,920 his father. Both revealed. Both were revealed that cock I 1533 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,360 gave him that cock just say hey again God credits 1534 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,800 in the first full that was all the jokes. You're 1535 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,719 in Oscar, this man just walking around looking like a 1536 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,920 near alpha. They should get him in twenty days later 1537 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,679 the third one, My god, uh luckily or they were 1538 01:05:55,719 --> 01:05:58,039 revealed that the mother could not make the screaming. So yeah, 1539 01:05:58,119 --> 01:05:59,519 I don't think you should have. 1540 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,679 Speaker 4: What about you guys taking your dad to this? Oh yeah, 1541 01:06:04,039 --> 01:06:04,800 you acted in it. 1542 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm taking I've had enough a thought of telling certain 1543 01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,159 people for our second film, like hey, don't watch this, 1544 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,119 Like I don't care, I got some nudity in the 1545 01:06:12,159 --> 01:06:14,559 second Taylor and I both got nudy in the second film, 1546 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,880 And I'm like, I'm especially the context of my nudy, 1547 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,760 your nudy, Taylor, yours is I think funny? Mine is 1548 01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:23,679 Mine is funny. But I just don't know if my 1549 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,400 mom needs to see me in that particular situation. So, 1550 01:06:27,519 --> 01:06:30,119 which is funny because talking about shame, there's some stuff 1551 01:06:30,119 --> 01:06:30,400 in there. 1552 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:31,960 Speaker 2: But so, yeah, I think you got to watch this 1553 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,400 movie alone for it to hit. 1554 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. Commenting on the full front of Nudi, 1555 01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,679 Michael Fastman said in a twenty eleven interview, it just 1556 01:06:40,719 --> 01:06:43,039 baffles me. Woman can parade around naked all the time, 1557 01:06:43,039 --> 01:06:44,800 but the guy could only has his pants on. I 1558 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,199 remember my mom always complaining about that to me, saying, 1559 01:06:47,199 --> 01:06:49,960 this is such bullshit. It's always the women that are naked. 1560 01:06:50,039 --> 01:06:53,159 So I did this one for my mom, so I didn't. 1561 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,840 Speaker 4: Walk around the house naked for my mom. 1562 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,920 Speaker 1: It's something we've joked about for years, right, It's like, oh, 1563 01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,880 we gotta get more talk on screen, you know, because 1564 01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:01,880 twenty days later check all that one. 1565 01:07:02,079 --> 01:07:03,800 Speaker 2: Twenty o'cock hashtag o'clock. 1566 01:07:04,039 --> 01:07:06,480 Speaker 1: Fastbener was the first and only choice to play the 1567 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:10,360 sleeves There You Go. During a twenty twelve magazine or 1568 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,840 New Yorker magazine, Michael Fastmener said that he really urinated 1569 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,719 on camera during the scene in which his character was 1570 01:07:15,719 --> 01:07:19,480 seen urinating. Usually these are sort of bolly function scenes 1571 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:23,280 assimilated during filming movie, if only because it's difficulty to replicating. 1572 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,000 George Clooney, who also was participating the around to ask 1573 01:07:26,079 --> 01:07:27,800 for them fast matter how many takes he had to do, 1574 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,920 he said three, so he had to, I guess, fill 1575 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,320 up that tank and do. 1576 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:36,320 Speaker 2: Three separate tay. I. I thought it was real because 1577 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,760 in most movies you go to the toilet instantly peen, 1578 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,719 but this it took him like ten to fifteen seconds 1579 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,000 to get the get the flow going, and to me, 1580 01:07:45,079 --> 01:07:47,719 that felt realistic. I was immersed in the toilet experience. 1581 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:48,760 Speaker 3: There you Go. 1582 01:07:49,559 --> 01:07:51,920 Speaker 1: This movie was only shown twenty five days, so you know, 1583 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:53,519 for me making mach in twenty. 1584 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,920 Speaker 2: Five that's why you're recording the scene see at three am, 1585 01:07:57,119 --> 01:07:58,199 working long as days. 1586 01:07:58,559 --> 01:08:01,280 Speaker 1: We gotta go. The Hungary poster was banned as it 1587 01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,440 showed the title end Semen, which I will bring it 1588 01:08:03,519 --> 01:08:05,400 up here if I get rid of us all for 1589 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:12,519 a second. Look you that right there? So and that's 1590 01:08:12,519 --> 01:08:13,440 how I thought, is that real? 1591 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:14,760 Speaker 2: Is that a real load? 1592 01:08:16,239 --> 01:08:18,399 Speaker 1: Fastbenner's like, yeah, I gotta pee, I gotta do this. 1593 01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,600 I doubt it's a real load, but you know so. 1594 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,119 But yeah, that's a that was banned, but great poster. 1595 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,800 Usually a film company, h Fox search Light did not sorry. 1596 01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,680 Unusually for a film company, Fox search Light did not 1597 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:35,079 appeal the NC seventeen rating. I guess I missmoke not X, 1598 01:08:35,119 --> 01:08:38,039 but NC seventeen raining awesome view as box office disaster 1599 01:08:38,079 --> 01:08:39,920 for any film. In this case, the company proceved it 1600 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:43,159 as a badge of honor. Let's see. And then finally 1601 01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:45,960 the sex scene with Michael Fastbenner and Amy Hargraves. It's 1602 01:08:46,039 --> 01:08:48,000 like the worker or no, no, that's the one that's 1603 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:52,039 after the lady where Preskin's the glassroom window in Manhattan's 1604 01:08:52,079 --> 01:08:55,560 The Standard Hotel was actually filmed above a busy film 1605 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,600 or busy street during the day. Spectators watch while the 1606 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,039 two actors in the nude smile and waved at them 1607 01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:04,479 from the hotel room from above in between takes. Since 1608 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,359 the Standard Hotel opened in New York in two thousand 1609 01:09:07,359 --> 01:09:09,800 and nine, it has become notorious for guests engaging public 1610 01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:13,000 sexual activity in front of their room windows, sometimes for 1611 01:09:13,159 --> 01:09:16,000 entertainment of audiences on the street or in the Highline 1612 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:20,800 park below. The phenomenon has been documented in articles well. 1613 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,800 In June twenty thirteen, in China, the same type of hotel, 1614 01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,000 a Chinese couple fell to their desk while performing a 1615 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:28,840 similar act when the window gave way. 1616 01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,239 Speaker 4: So they were going. 1617 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,239 Speaker 2: But if I feel like that should be illegal, wouldn't. 1618 01:09:35,119 --> 01:09:37,319 Speaker 5: I was gonna ask, Yeah, well, if there's like a 1619 01:09:37,399 --> 01:09:38,359 child out there or. 1620 01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:41,840 Speaker 2: Something like non consenting like sexual I think if. 1621 01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:44,159 Speaker 1: You look, because I did look this up yesterday, because 1622 01:09:44,199 --> 01:09:46,520 there's still articles about this, like I found one twenty 1623 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:50,119 twenty three, this stuff' still happening. The building is so tall, 1624 01:09:50,279 --> 01:09:53,319 it's very it's very just shapely, like you could you 1625 01:09:53,359 --> 01:09:55,680 could not I don't think actually looking be like I 1626 01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:57,960 guess unless it was an alpha but like that's but 1627 01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,680 there's other tall buildings like I agree, I agree, but 1628 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,600 that's I guess this is what happens. And it's just 1629 01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,479 a hotel known for then I guess you're just known 1630 01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,600 to hey, if you're with a family, don't look up 1631 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:08,920 at the Standard Hotel because. 1632 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:26,000 Speaker 7: Holy fuck, one of those trouts we've had there. 1633 01:10:26,039 --> 01:10:31,239 Speaker 1: But mister Field, you'll never have to talk about shame 1634 01:10:31,279 --> 01:10:34,560 ever again, hopefully unless we I don't come up, my god, 1635 01:10:35,199 --> 01:10:37,760 but no, what is your rating at a ten? Yere? 1636 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:45,159 Speaker 3: You know, conversing with you guys like you've we had 1637 01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:47,439 some good conversation and some good points. So it definitely 1638 01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,640 raised my score up a little bit, like a little bit. 1639 01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,239 I oh, it's around stimulated. I'm gonna give it a 1640 01:10:53,279 --> 01:10:56,399 fully erect six point five out of ten. I thought 1641 01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:00,399 I thought I was gonna as best. 1642 01:11:02,279 --> 01:11:03,000 Speaker 7: That's what the work. 1643 01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a six point five down here. I'm 1644 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,520 looking for the ten, which again we didn't talk about. 1645 01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,680 He randomly, I don't know why they introduce this Radmily 1646 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,600 just says a line of coke right before he goes 1647 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,600 in there, so I don't Yeah, the nervous thing where 1648 01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,439 it's like I'm just trying to get fired up for 1649 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,920 this lady here, but yeah, he just just does it 1650 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:20,119 and didn't work out for him. 1651 01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:22,159 Speaker 2: So that was crazy. Yeah, I forgot about that. 1652 01:11:23,199 --> 01:11:27,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, mister Patzer, Uh yeah, I think I'm a little 1653 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,359 bit firmer than Taylor on here. 1654 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:32,920 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna. 1655 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:39,119 Speaker 1: Give it a system that's based on the chubber. Yeah, 1656 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,079 you should bring that back for the twenty eight years 1657 01:11:41,159 --> 01:11:44,520 later sequel. You know, how hard is your score here? 1658 01:11:45,199 --> 01:11:47,000 Speaker 5: I'm gonna send point five here. I'm gonna go send 1659 01:11:47,039 --> 01:11:51,800 poyt five here. I do think it's a well crafted film. 1660 01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:55,239 Some like minor believability things that don't really affect the score, 1661 01:11:55,319 --> 01:11:57,000 but I feel the need to point them out because 1662 01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:00,279 that's who I am. But yeah, not one. I'm seek 1663 01:12:00,319 --> 01:12:04,239 it out and returning to so so definitely, my like 1664 01:12:04,319 --> 01:12:08,039 total rating is a combination of like enjoyment as well 1665 01:12:08,079 --> 01:12:11,680 as is like critiquing it, and uh, that's where it lies. 1666 01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:16,279 So I don't foresee myself ever rewatching this one. I 1667 01:12:16,319 --> 01:12:19,960 don't think she is gonna pick this one for h No. 1668 01:12:21,399 --> 01:12:23,279 Speaker 1: Watch it with your dad and Shaye like you guys 1669 01:12:23,279 --> 01:12:24,000 did with Midsimmar. 1670 01:12:24,079 --> 01:12:27,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, take your dad, Yeah, put it in imax. 1671 01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,560 Speaker 1: When Bernie says a screening, we'll go to Bernie's and 1672 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:31,039 watch that. 1673 01:12:31,079 --> 01:12:34,039 Speaker 5: With some food, you know, some spaghetti. 1674 01:12:34,119 --> 01:12:36,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no way they play that at Bernie's. 1675 01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,199 Speaker 1: They played American Psycho, which is not as bad as this, 1676 01:12:39,319 --> 01:12:41,079 but like that is a lot of say there's a 1677 01:12:41,079 --> 01:12:42,920 three way sex scene in there, you know, the whole 1678 01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,680 like and like there's and he's like herding girls at 1679 01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,720 so but I wish, I wish I got to see 1680 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,279 this in the theater because again, jokes aside, I love 1681 01:12:51,359 --> 01:12:54,119 the color, like the color palette of this I used 1682 01:12:54,119 --> 01:12:55,960 to have. I haven't put them up. Remember those movie 1683 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,479 pal posters I had when I had all this stuff. 1684 01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,199 I should request them to shame. It costs a little more, 1685 01:13:01,239 --> 01:13:04,319 but I just love those those blues and greens. You know, 1686 01:13:04,359 --> 01:13:05,680 it's just there's something about it. 1687 01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:12,279 Speaker 2: So yeah, definitely, mister Muss. Yeah, I'm not throbbing, but 1688 01:13:12,319 --> 01:13:13,760 I'll give this a nice stiff eight. 1689 01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:19,479 Speaker 1: Nice what a scale there? Well, then I'll just have 1690 01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,760 to close off with a rock hard ten. That's the 1691 01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,600 route we're gonna have to go there, because that was inevitable. 1692 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,720 But yeah, we'll see. It's gonna be tough when we 1693 01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:29,159 were visit because we're doing our top ten films, and 1694 01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,479 I'll definitely say like because it's for favorites, and I'll 1695 01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,199 definitely say this is all in the bubble because I 1696 01:13:34,239 --> 01:13:36,079 love this. But it's also been ten years and there's 1697 01:13:36,079 --> 01:13:38,640 been tons of stuff that's come out that's been you know, 1698 01:13:39,039 --> 01:13:42,199 really great too. So again, I love this film, but 1699 01:13:42,239 --> 01:13:44,439 I also would not be trusted making like the hundred 1700 01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,960 gray films all time. Shame's not gonna be on there, 1701 01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,359 but you know for Traslas, who knows. But yeah, I'm 1702 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:53,039 big struggle the last that movie cast and the game cast, 1703 01:13:53,119 --> 01:13:55,840 the TV show one. I'm having a struggle getting to ten. 1704 01:13:56,039 --> 01:13:59,359 But the movie and video game one, those last like 1705 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,560 two saws have been really tough for me of oh, man, 1706 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,960 what do I keep? What do I don't? Yes? 1707 01:14:06,359 --> 01:14:09,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, should we do that cast the one hundred greatest 1708 01:14:09,279 --> 01:14:10,000 movies of all time? 1709 01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:13,640 Speaker 1: I'd be down one time when we get to a 1710 01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,319 GV one hundred, when we go around one hundred years, no, 1711 01:14:16,319 --> 01:14:24,680 I think no, Yeah, I mean it's like one hundred years. 1712 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,800 But you know, if I'll put them docket for the 1713 01:14:28,159 --> 01:14:30,399 for a bread and butter, that that'd be fun to 1714 01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,720 find out what the like the critique like is it 1715 01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,960 our list or is it what we think like has 1716 01:14:35,039 --> 01:14:37,760 impacted film or like big films. 1717 01:14:37,359 --> 01:14:39,279 Speaker 2: You know, like I have to find out later. 1718 01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah we will, So, ladies, gentlemen, thank you very much 1719 01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,239 for going to this journey. I'm glad it's crossed off finally, 1720 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,119 all the ten years of talking about it meaning about shames. 1721 01:14:49,159 --> 01:14:51,840 Here I'm glad there's some other more memes. I'm glad 1722 01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,880 I can say dirty hard Drive and these guys will 1723 01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,199 understand what I'm talking about. Uh, And then yeah, next up? 1724 01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:59,439 Who'se are we do? Is it Taylor that I have? 1725 01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,560 Next up? The doctor there for it is the next 1726 01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:06,279 one wrong turn dead and I have had to do. 1727 01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,880 I never thought I'd be doing looking up trivia for 1728 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,439 wrong term, but here I am. And we'll find out 1729 01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,399 why Taylor picked in what means to him on the 1730 01:15:13,399 --> 01:15:16,520 next episode of the GV ten retrospective. Until then, and 1731 01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:17,920 we'll be boring b