WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.840 --> 00:00:04.160 All right, let's get a drivetime Wednesday afternoon, seven minutes 2 00:00:04.200 --> 00:00:07.240 past the hour of two o'clock. Beautiful day, lovely day. 3 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:09.240 We've had such a great week of weather. It's about 4 00:00:09.279 --> 00:00:13.640 seventy degrees, flat and sunny here in downtown Slid City, Utah. 5 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:15.960 Not too warm at all, not too cold. Feels more 6 00:00:16.039 --> 00:00:19.079 like spring, even though it's June time now, and as 7 00:00:19.120 --> 00:00:20.839 it is every single day, it's going to have you 8 00:00:20.920 --> 00:00:24.079 along for the ride. Spence checket's beyond my porter Larson 9 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:26.760 behind the glass. Happy Wednesday to you. You are halfway 10 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:29.239 through your work week, you're one day closer to the weekends. 11 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:31.160 And we got a lot to do. We got a 12 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:33.039 busy show, got a good guest list with a bunch 13 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:37.520 of different topics. The NBA Finals get rolling tomorrow on 14 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:40.079 ABC six thirty Mountain Time, and of course you can 15 00:00:40.119 --> 00:00:43.799 hear it on our radio station. The Indiana Pacers and 16 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:47.840 the Oklahoma City thunder will do battle. Tonight is Game 17 00:00:47.880 --> 00:00:50.960 one of the Stanley Cup Finals. The Battle for Lord 18 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:55.240 Stanley's Cup gets rolled tonight between Edmonton and Florida, a 19 00:00:55.359 --> 00:00:58.039 rematch of the Stanley Cup Finals a year ago. It 20 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:01.719 is such a grueling tournament that you just don't see 21 00:01:01.840 --> 00:01:06.200 very many Stanley Cup rematches, but we have it starting tonight. 22 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:09.280 A seven games Stanley Cup finals last year saw Florida 23 00:01:09.319 --> 00:01:13.760 win the first three games, Edmonton rolled back to win 24 00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:17.920 three straight, and then Florida be able to grab that 25 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:22.359 game seven. So we'll see if we get another unbelievable 26 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:27.120 Stanley Cup final starting tonight. Hopefully we get seven games. 27 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:30.319 I don't think we're getting seven games. On the basketball 28 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:32.239 side of things, we'll talk about it today is the 29 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:36.719 Pacers are just up against a juggernaut. Shay reigning MVP 30 00:01:37.159 --> 00:01:40.359 has elevated his game to the points where. 31 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:42.200 He can kind of dictate. 32 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:44.239 Things in a way that really nobody on Indiana can, 33 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:48.239 even though Tyree Saliburton is an excellent, excellent league guard. 34 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:53.159 So some interesting storylines and topics surrounding the NBA Finals 35 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:57.480 we'll get to today. The world of the professional golf, 36 00:01:58.280 --> 00:02:01.159 as far as the PGA Tour goes. The RBC Canadian 37 00:02:01.239 --> 00:02:04.680 opens this weekend, and then I speeded to the US Open, 38 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:09.439 where Phil Mickelson will try to complete his Grand Slam, 39 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:11.840 potentially for the final top Phil has a five year 40 00:02:11.879 --> 00:02:14.520 exemption after he won the tournament five years ago became 41 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:18.719 the oldest winner of the tournaments, and so this will 42 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:21.560 be his last chance to win that Grand Slam. It's 43 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:25.000 the only major championship Phil Mickelson does not have. Rory 44 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:28.400 mcelroyd continues to be grumpy despite his incredible year, so 45 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:29.039 little golf. 46 00:02:29.120 --> 00:02:29.520 Of course. 47 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:31.360 Top of mind this time of year is the summer 48 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:34.919 is upon us RSL with an interesting June. They only 49 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:38.639 have two games. They're off until June the fourteenth. The 50 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:41.280 LA Galaxy game will be moved. I believe that's because 51 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:44.319 of Leake's Cup stuff. It's only two games for RSEL 52 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:47.199 this month, not a lot of opportunities for Raal saw 53 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:50.599 Lake to get points that they badly, badly need. The 54 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:54.120 summer window opens next month and that's the next opportunity 55 00:02:54.159 --> 00:02:58.800 for OURSEL to add some talent to this roster. Offseason 56 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:02.479 college football converercetion continues to be pretty interesting. Ryan Day, 57 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:04.680 of course, comes out today and says the Big Ten 58 00:03:04.719 --> 00:03:08.919 deserves four automatic spots in the CFP Color me shocks. 59 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:10.800 I still think we're moving ahead to the five plus 60 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:14.560 eleven model. University of Utah continues to piece together their 61 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:18.599 twenty twenty six recruiting class doesn't look like Andre Miller 62 00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:21.919 is on his way to join Alex Jensen's staff. Speaking 63 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:24.960 of former You to our coaches, what's next for Johnny Bryant? 64 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:29.360 The Phoenix Suns decided on Jared Ott today. Jared Ott, 65 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:33.879 an assistant coach for Kenny Atkinson coaching alongside Johnny Bryant 66 00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:37.719 last year, takes over the Phoenix Suns after they moved. 67 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:38.879 On from Mike Budenholzer. 68 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:45.000 Devin Booker has now had seven coaches in his career 69 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:48.159 with the Phoenix Suns. Pretty whild, of course. Ladies with 70 00:03:48.159 --> 00:03:50.560 the Necks fire in Tom Thibodeau after the best run 71 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:53.560 in franchise, well not in franchise history. They actually have 72 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:56.240 won championships. Just very few of us were alive when 73 00:03:56.280 --> 00:03:56.759 that happened. 74 00:03:57.639 --> 00:03:59.479 So what's next in New York? Is that a stop 75 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:00.000 for Johnny? 76 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:00.280 Right? 77 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:03.240 We'll get into it a lot of and this is 78 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:06.719 kind of how these things go. When a coach gets 79 00:04:06.719 --> 00:04:11.080 fired or a player gets traded. It's like a relationship 80 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:14.280 with friends of yours, right, Like you don't really know 81 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:16.839 what actually happened until the breakup, and then everybody wants 82 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:17.680 to dish and spill. 83 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:20.480 So now that Tom Thibodau has been fired. There are 84 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:22.560 rumors this was player driven. 85 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:25.800 Miquel Bridges apparently doesn't like playing a lot of minutes. 86 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:29.439 I hate it when players bitch and moan about playing, man, 87 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:32.920 it's so exhausting. And Karl Anthony Towns apparently does not 88 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:35.279 want to play for Tom Thibodeau anymore either. 89 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:38.199 This is such a player's driven league. 90 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:41.199 And of course the Utah Jazz are in a scenario 91 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:43.519 where their coaching staff in front office appears to be 92 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:45.800 solidified and solid but the problem is they do not 93 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:48.959 have good basketball players. So we'll get into it on 94 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:51.360 the show today. A lot of different topics going on 95 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:53.720 on the program. Our first guest will be Josh Furlong. 96 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:58.279 Josh covers the University of Utah for our friends at KSL. 97 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:02.800 We'll do some Utah football and some Utah basketball with Josh. 98 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:06.439 Right out of the gates. Neil Smith stops by on 99 00:05:06.519 --> 00:05:10.319 this Wednesday afternoon to preview the Stanley Cup Finals which 100 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:12.920 begins tonight, and of course we're high speed ahead to 101 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:16.040 the NHL Draft. Neil was one of the best pro 102 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:18.759 hockey roster constructors in the nineties, so we'll get his 103 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:22.040 take on some Utah Mammoth offseason and get a preview 104 00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:25.439 of the Stanley Cup Finals tonight. Andy Larson stops by 105 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:27.240 a little bit later on as well. We'll look forward 106 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:29.920 to catching up with Andy about the Utah Jazz, the 107 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:33.639 Austin Ange news, some NBA draft stuff, and maybe a 108 00:05:33.639 --> 00:05:36.120 little RSL with Andy. Of time allows, but again, only 109 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:39.959 two matches for oursel this month and not a lot 110 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:42.800 of momentum at least in the positive direction, and then 111 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:44.279 we'll go from there. We got some other guests at 112 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:45.879 a little bit fluid on the show today. We'll kind 113 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:47.079 of keep you in the loop. But it is a 114 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:50.079 Wednesday edition of the radio show and we appreciate you 115 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:52.519 making us a part of your day. Josh fur Long, 116 00:05:52.680 --> 00:05:56.120 Neil Smith, Andy Larson, he spends check ats all of 117 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:58.759 you the great listeners, and that guy Porter Larson. We 118 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:02.079 have two Larsons, Andy and Order on the show today. Porter, Hello, 119 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:02.800 Happy Wednesday. 120 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:03.480 How are you good? 121 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:03.920 How are you? 122 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:04.879 I'm good. 123 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:08.959 I always go through this weird playoff withdrawal where for 124 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:11.079 weeks and weeks and weeks we have well, first we 125 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:13.800 have multiple games every night and then we move over 126 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:17.000 to the conference finals, which is every other night. So 127 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:18.759 or at least we have our game every other night. 128 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:22.199 And yeah, for the past I'm all cut up on 129 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:26.920 our friends and neighbors, Apple TV, John Hamm, great television show. 130 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:29.839 I've basically just been binging television shows waiting for the 131 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:30.639 finals to start. 132 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:35.839 Yeah, I've just been like outside, wandering around aimlessly, which 133 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:39.439 is you know, fine with me, to be perfectly clear. 134 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:46.920 But yeah, when the break kind of starts and you 135 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:51.800 realize that sports are slowing down, especially if you're like us, 136 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:55.759 you're a little what probably football, basketball centric, some soccer, hockey. 137 00:06:55.800 --> 00:07:00.439 We'll throw our guys in there. But yeah, man, it 138 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:02.800 really starts to seep in when you have several days 139 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:06.800 off in between games. When going back months now, if 140 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:09.519 you're a college hoops watcher, you had games every night, 141 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:11.600 you had multiple games going on at the same time. 142 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:16.360 You basically were overdosing on basketball for two months, and 143 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:19.600 then you have this come down. To use that analogy, 144 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:22.839 I will say Spence. Also, it is technically still spring. 145 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:26.839 Yeah, but it's June and it feels like April. I'm 146 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:27.399 here for it. 147 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:27.800 I'm here. 148 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:30.480 Last last weekend, it was I was playing golf and 149 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:31.639 it was ninety two degrees. 150 00:07:31.720 --> 00:07:33.439 It was it was much. It was a bit much. 151 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:35.959 But yeah, the solstice is I think the twentieth. 152 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:38.839 Okay, mary Anne Williamson, nobody's impressed with your knowledge of 153 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:39.399 the stars. 154 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:40.120 We've been over this. 155 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:40.800 Oh no, I know. 156 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:42.800 I'm just keeping you in the loop. Is do you 157 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:44.040 see the northern lights this weekend? 158 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:45.639 Is mercury and retrograde? 159 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:45.839 Yet? 160 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:46.399 Really pretty? 161 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:47.720 Is it in retrograde yet? 162 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:48.959 I don't know about that one. 163 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:50.800 Okay, because if it is, if it is, white women 164 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:52.920 are about to make a bunch of different decisions that 165 00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:54.279 will badly affect their relationship. 166 00:07:54.319 --> 00:07:57.480 I have seen like to get way down this rabbit hole. 167 00:07:57.600 --> 00:07:58.759 How deep are we going here? 168 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:01.279 We've gott like there's certain guys that think the tilt 169 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:03.920 of the earth is about to like shift and change everything. 170 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:07.000 You got to stop listening to Joe Rogan podcast. 171 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:10.120 Bro, you know it's entertaining, just to be clear, okay, 172 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:12.079 not informational, all right? 173 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:16.519 Yeah, you know, uh Joe Rogan somehow five years ago 174 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:19.399 his job was to convince humans to eat animal uh 175 00:08:19.560 --> 00:08:21.959 FECs on television, and now he's where people go to 176 00:08:21.959 --> 00:08:23.600 get like a legitimate medical and signs. 177 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:24.800 And also where'd fear factor go? 178 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:26.920 Just because Joe Rogan's not doing it can't doesn't mean 179 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:29.040 we can't make people do that on television anymore. 180 00:08:29.079 --> 00:08:31.439 That's that's fair. That's fair. You could do it, Okay, 181 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:33.360 all right, Hey. 182 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:36.480 I'll host Fear Factor, and then in five years maybe 183 00:08:36.519 --> 00:08:37.799 I'll have a podcast where I. 184 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:40.519 Give people horrible medical advice. 185 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:43.440 What's your podcast? Uh check? Reality check? 186 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:45.000 There you go, may rest in peace. 187 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:45.799 We could bring it back. 188 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:49.720 We could bring it back, and I'll have irresponsible people 189 00:08:49.799 --> 00:08:52.799 on my podcast to spread misinformation and conspiracy. 190 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:54.799 You should bring me up for like five hours. 191 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:55.240 I should. 192 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:57.440 Well, apparently that's how people are making their way through 193 00:08:57.480 --> 00:08:57.759 the world. 194 00:08:57.840 --> 00:08:58.000 Now. 195 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:00.279 It doesn't matter what you say, whether it's it's true 196 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:01.200 or not is irrelevant. 197 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:02.679 As long as people are engaged. 198 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:05.159 The problem is then they listen, then they spread the 199 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:07.960 information of their friends, and suddenly nobody knows which way 200 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:08.919 is up and which way is down. 201 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:11.559 Yeah, I'm I mean, if you're interested, I'm here. 202 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:13.600 Okay, I appreciate it. 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They're gonna hook 237 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:42.799 you up with fifty dollars on the house Prize Picks. 238 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:45.559 You can run your game all season long, all right. 239 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:49.679 So friend of the program, co creator of the program, 240 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:53.200 original producer of the program JP John Paul Schangar, a 241 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:54.919 guy who joins the show at the time to time, 242 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:58.799 had a chance to sit down with Austin Ah after 243 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:02.279 Austin's press conference that we played on the show and 244 00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:04.960 has made the rounds with local media both TV and radio. 245 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:07.679 I would encourage you and of course we support our 246 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:10.840 guy jpus Now over with the Utah Jazz and voice 247 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:12.159 of the Stars and Voice of the Royals. 248 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:13.279 Very busy young man. 249 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:15.720 I would encourage you to go listen to JP's latest 250 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:19.440 episode of Roundball Roundups, sitting down with Austin Age, who 251 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:22.480 by all accounts is now the lead decision maker and 252 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:25.759 loudest voice in the Utah Jazz front office. So, of 253 00:11:25.799 --> 00:11:28.840 course the SoundBite that has made the rounds not just 254 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:32.279 locally but nationally. A lot of our NBA guys actually 255 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:35.360 that are on the show. Dave mcmanmon sent Porter and 256 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:37.879 I a text with that sound bite. He's like, oh interesting, 257 00:11:38.360 --> 00:11:40.960 Like it resonated with a lot of people. So our 258 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:43.000 very own Sean O'Connell, as you guys know by now, 259 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:47.080 asked Austin the question about his philosophy on manipulating minutes 260 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:50.240 in tanking, and Austin simply said it was a great SoundBite. 261 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:52.879 You will not see that this year. Well, he went 262 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:56.480 on JP's pod and elaborated essentially on what he meant, 263 00:11:56.480 --> 00:12:00.240 and instead of trying to accurately represent those comments, I'll 264 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:02.960 encourage you to go to the Utah Jazz podcast page 265 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:07.240 and find JP's interview with Austin Ahe essentially the gist 266 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:10.360 of it was, yes, I mean what he said continues 267 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:14.080 to be true. But basically, what you won't see this 268 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:18.240 year if Austin is being forthcoming and fourth ride with 269 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:20.600 his comments, and if, by the way, if he is 270 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:25.279 the loudest voice in the front office, If Justin Zanik 271 00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:29.200 and his father Danny, and Will Hardy and everybody else, 272 00:12:29.320 --> 00:12:32.679 if they're reporting to Austin, okay, If Austin is calling 273 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:35.600 the shots, and if we take Ryan Smith at his words, 274 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:38.639 he very much is, then the edict to how this 275 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:42.240 will transpire will come from Austin himself. And if that's 276 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:46.240 a direct line between Austin and Will Hardy, who worked 277 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:49.159 together in Boston when Austin was there and Will was 278 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:53.440 Emi Udoka's lead assistant coach. If it's a direct line 279 00:12:53.480 --> 00:12:56.600 from Austin to Will, and Will has to essentially follow 280 00:12:56.639 --> 00:12:59.720 marching orders from Austin ange What we won't see this 281 00:12:59.799 --> 00:13:03.279 year are the lengthy injury reports that we all see 282 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:06.279 on social media every single Jazz, every single time the 283 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:09.120 Jazz played game. What we won't see this year is 284 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:12.519 a healthy Walker Kessler sitting on the sidelines. What we 285 00:13:12.559 --> 00:13:14.879 won't see this year is a healthy lowry market and 286 00:13:14.960 --> 00:13:17.759 sitting on the sidelines or an invented injury for Colin 287 00:13:17.840 --> 00:13:20.919 Sexton or John Collins or Jordan Clarkson, et cetera, et cetera, 288 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:24.559 et cetera. Okay, and so as we've discussed and will 289 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:27.679 continue to discuss throughout the course of what is shaping 290 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:30.879 up to be a very fascinating offseason in pro basketball, 291 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:34.159 what does that look like? What does it look like 292 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:38.080 for the Utah Jazz as they're presently constituted now side note, 293 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:41.879 I do not believe the way they're presently constituted will 294 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:44.039 be the way that they are constituted come fall. 295 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:46.679 But only time will tell, because. 296 00:13:46.360 --> 00:13:48.559 There is part of me that does believe some of 297 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:51.039 the veteran players you have on the rost are actually 298 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:54.600 perfect fits for a team that should not be serious 299 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:58.360 about winning this year, should not be serious about putting 300 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:00.679 their best foot forward as far as trying to win games. 301 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:02.000 Now you can be. 302 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:07.039 Serious about competing, and you can actually approach the thing 303 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:09.279 with integrity in a way that they didn't last year 304 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:12.039 and still lose a lot of basketball games. Certainly with 305 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:16.799 the current landscape of the Western Conference, where you know, 306 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:20.879 it's interesting the walking line is thirteen teams in the 307 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:23.759 West next year believe that their at least playoff or 308 00:14:23.759 --> 00:14:25.840 playing teams. I don't know how many believe their top 309 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:28.759 four for that home court advantage. But when you look 310 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:31.639 at the way the Blazers kind of evolved this year, 311 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:35.240 like Portland did a really good job of actual player 312 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:38.480 development this year, not fake player development like that. Like 313 00:14:38.519 --> 00:14:41.879 the Jazz did not lean into player development this year. 314 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:43.440 They're going to tell you they did, but they didn't 315 00:14:44.279 --> 00:14:48.080 because they were unseerious about competing, they were unseious about winning. 316 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:50.399 They did not approach this thing with integrity as it 317 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:53.159 pertains to the way you should treat the game and 318 00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:56.080 the sport and this league where you're lucky to be 319 00:14:56.120 --> 00:14:58.879 a part of it, and part of being a professional 320 00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:01.240 is showing up up and doing your job to the 321 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:04.759 best of your ability every single day. And yes, sometimes 322 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:06.759 when you're a little bit injured, I still, you know, 323 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:09.759 I still will die on. 324 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:10.600 The hill that way. 325 00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:15.559 Too many NBA players don't play basketball even when they're 326 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:16.639 healthy enough to do it. 327 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:19.399 I don't love the load management. I never will. 328 00:15:19.480 --> 00:15:22.320 And by the way, there's no data that indicate indicates 329 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:22.879 it works. 330 00:15:23.600 --> 00:15:25.200 Did you watch the playoffs this year? 331 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:29.440 It was it was a bloodbath of injuries for some 332 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:31.840 of the best players in the game, and some of 333 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:34.320 the best players in the game that actually do take 334 00:15:34.360 --> 00:15:38.960 time off were hurt in the postseason that allowed the 335 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:43.200 pathway forward for certain teams to continue to play on, 336 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:46.559 namely the Indiana Pacers, who ran into a Cleveland Cavalier 337 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:51.519 team whose health was compromised. The Golden State Warriors lost 338 00:15:51.559 --> 00:15:56.039 Stephen Curry obviously, the Blazers had to compromise Dame Lillard. 339 00:15:56.519 --> 00:15:59.440 The Boston Celtics lost Jason Tatum. There's no Dubta and 340 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:01.519 Tatum play. By the way, I should be clear, Tatum 341 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:02.960 is not one of these guys that wants to sit. 342 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:07.399 There's no data that indicates sitting players actually helps them 343 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:09.720 stay healthy throughout the course of the year. This is 344 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:13.720 a initiative that has always been driven by powerful agents 345 00:16:13.799 --> 00:16:16.799 behind the scenes that want their young clients to get 346 00:16:16.840 --> 00:16:19.600 to their second contract as fully healthy as possible so 347 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:21.799 they can make a bunch of money. That's what load 348 00:16:21.840 --> 00:16:25.960 management is not about teams and players and the league 349 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:28.120 trying to protect the health of these guys for the 350 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:31.080 sanctity of anything. It's money driven, like everything else in 351 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:34.120 this league right now, it's why so many great coaches 352 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:37.960 continue to lose jobs because this is a player driven league, 353 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:41.080 has been for a while, and Lebron is kind of 354 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:43.879 the guy that started this player empowerment movement, which is 355 00:16:43.879 --> 00:16:45.840 why a lot of people are anti Lebron right, And 356 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:49.039 I understand that because it has jumped the shark a 357 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:52.159 little bit. When great head coaches like Michael Malone who 358 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:55.639 won a championship just two years ago, and Tom Thibodeau 359 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:57.679 who took the next to the Eastern Conference Finals for 360 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:00.960 the first time in thirty years, back to back fifty 361 00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:03.799 fifty win seasons for the first time since the mid nineties. 362 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:07.200 Taylor Jenkins, excellent young coach that did a great job 363 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:07.640 in Memphis. 364 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:08.839 These guys lose their jobs. 365 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:11.400 Mike Butenholzer is a champion, an NBA Coach of the 366 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:14.519 Year multiple times out of a job, and it's because 367 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:18.359 the league is player driven and the players deserve their compensation, 368 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:20.920 their share of the basketball related income and the revenue 369 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:23.559 that comes their way because they're the product. But it 370 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:25.839 really has kind of gone overboard just a little bit 371 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:29.400 as it pertains how much power they have. But ultimately, 372 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:32.519 back to the point, before we catch a break, it 373 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:35.960 is going to be fascinating to see what this offseason 374 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:38.200 looks like for the Jazz, because if we take Austin 375 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:41.240 at his word and he says they will be serious 376 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:46.359 about competing again, the Western Conference is deep enough and 377 00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:49.920 talented enough and good enough that the Jazz could put 378 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:51.119 their best foot forward and. 379 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:54.160 Still only win eighteen to twenty games. 380 00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:57.319 And I'm here to tell you that's okay, because to me, 381 00:17:57.759 --> 00:18:00.599 the number one priority for a team that is this young, 382 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:02.400 and for a team that, if we're honest, is this 383 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:07.359 bad and this far behind everybody else in their peer group, 384 00:18:08.079 --> 00:18:10.440 that first round pick next year is something you cannot 385 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:12.480 convey to Oklahoma City. You have to keep it in 386 00:18:12.519 --> 00:18:17.200 your back pockets. And then finally, there's this starting in 387 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:20.359 just a few weeks for the NBA Draft. This front office. Okay, 388 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:26.119 if we're expected to believe that Justin Zanik and Danny 389 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:29.119 Ainge and Austin Age and the talent evaluators over there 390 00:18:29.160 --> 00:18:32.000 are good at their job, they need to start hitting 391 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:34.119 on their draft picks in a way that they haven't 392 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:37.039 so far. This is the fourth year since the Mitchell 393 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:41.240 Gobert Quinn Sider Dennis Lindsay teardown and there's some things 394 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:46.160 to like about Kyle Philipalskip, There's some things to kind 395 00:18:46.240 --> 00:18:50.160 of like about Isaiah Collier. There's really not a lot 396 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:52.279 to like about Cody Williams right now. And we need 397 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:55.119 to see Taylor Hendrick Selty and I am not a 398 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:58.440 huge keyante George guy. The draft picks they've made so 399 00:18:58.559 --> 00:19:01.480 far have been mixed at best, and if we're honest, 400 00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:04.440 they have not hit on them. They've got a top 401 00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:07.640 five pick. You got to hit on that pick, or 402 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:11.000 you got to utilize it to make some sort of 403 00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:15.839 maneuver to add a legitimately talented player to the roster 404 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:16.839 that can play right away. 405 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:18.480 They can step in and play right away. 406 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:21.680 Because I do think we will see player movement with 407 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:25.240 some of the veteran pieces. Now that Collins and Sexton 408 00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:29.960 and Clarkson are on expiring deals John Collins too, they 409 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:32.079 will be easier to move than they have been over 410 00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:34.720 the past couple of years. And there is part of 411 00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:38.319 me that believes we are going to simply see what 412 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:41.880 Washington did last year. Washington actually tried to win games. 413 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:46.599 They just played all young players, like all young players. 414 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:49.119 They had very few veteran players, even on the roster 415 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:53.720 and almost zero veteran players in the rotation. So when 416 00:19:53.720 --> 00:19:58.000 Austin Ainge says we will be serious about competing, and 417 00:19:58.039 --> 00:20:00.559 we all understand that, yes, okay, that's great, but on 418 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:02.480 the back end of next season you still have to 419 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:06.960 maintain your draft capital. It probably means both on the 420 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:12.720 roster and in Will's rotation is maybe entirely comprised of 421 00:20:12.759 --> 00:20:16.119 the young players they have now and two or potentially 422 00:20:16.160 --> 00:20:18.000 four young players that are gonna add coming up on 423 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:20.319 June the twenty fifth. And if you just have a 424 00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:23.440 grip of young players that are unproven, you can approach 425 00:20:23.480 --> 00:20:25.839 this thing with some integrity and you can't actually be 426 00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:29.480 serious about competing and still lose enough games to hold 427 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:30.240 onto your draft pick. 428 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:31.799 Which has to be the name of the game this 429 00:20:31.880 --> 00:20:32.880 year for the Utah Jazz. 430 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:34.640 In a preview. 431 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:39.400 Tonight's Stanley Cup final game one Edmonton taking on Florida. 432 00:20:39.559 --> 00:20:43.160 It is a rematch which we do not see very often. 433 00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:47.200 It's such a grueling tournament. Soneil Smith, former general manager 434 00:20:47.319 --> 00:20:49.759 of the Rangers and the Islanders, high level scout for 435 00:20:49.839 --> 00:20:53.279 the Detroit Red Wings, a Stanley Cup champion himself, will 436 00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:56.119 stop by gonna bring in Andy Larson from the Salt 437 00:20:56.160 --> 00:20:59.799 Lake Tribune, and how about Eric Weddle will join the program. 438 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:03.119 Potential Hall of Famer guy, Eric Weddle's gonna stop by 439 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:05.960 but on a Wednesday, starting things out. Josh for Long 440 00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:08.640 covers the Utes board, KSL Josh, Happy Wednesday. 441 00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:08.759 Man. 442 00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:09.240 How we doing. 443 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:11.680 I'm doing well. How about yourself, Fence. 444 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:12.519 I'm good, man, I'm good. 445 00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:15.240 So, since we're gonna have you at on your reaction 446 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:17.880 to the College Football Hall of Fame news, I think 447 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:19.440 that dropped about a week ago or so. 448 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:22.960 Yeah, yeah, well no, I was actually I think. 449 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:26.039 Monday, Monday gotcha. So what do you think? 450 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:28.759 I mean? I think this is a no brainer. 451 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:32.240 Quite honestly, I'm I'm part of that committee that helps 452 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:34.559 select some of these guys, and he was a no 453 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:36.359 brainer to me as I was looking at some of 454 00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:39.759 these these individuals who are the greats of college football 455 00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:42.920 and then there's you know, no question that the Alex Smith, 456 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:45.680 the Eric Weddles are the greats of U tough football. 457 00:21:46.559 --> 00:21:48.640 I was I was not in the state during the 458 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:50.480 time that Eric Weddle played, so I don't I wasn't 459 00:21:50.519 --> 00:21:53.240 familiar with his college game, but just watching kind of 460 00:21:53.240 --> 00:21:55.920 the ambassador of the DAS to the program as. 461 00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:58.039 Well as kind of what he did in the NFL, Like, 462 00:21:58.119 --> 00:21:58.880 this is a guy. 463 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:01.559 That truly cares about football being played the right way, 464 00:22:01.720 --> 00:22:04.640 play the physical, but also more just trying to help 465 00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:07.480 people grow. So I think there's there's no better person 466 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:11.279 to be kind of a candidate for that. Knowing kind 467 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:13.359 of who he is on and off the field, that 468 00:22:13.880 --> 00:22:16.440 really kind of specifies like the types of people that 469 00:22:16.519 --> 00:22:19.519 the Hall of Fame wants to represent and bring forward. 470 00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:22.000 So I think it's a great opportunity for him. 471 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:23.960 I didn't know that you were a part of that 472 00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:25.240 that committee. That's really cool. 473 00:22:25.319 --> 00:22:28.680 Illuminate us on the process, like how did these things 474 00:22:28.759 --> 00:22:31.440 kind of work and ultimately how did it end with 475 00:22:31.799 --> 00:22:33.079 Eric Weddle on the ballot. 476 00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:36.720 So it's I'm only a part of it. 477 00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:39.960 So what happens is is they have different regions and 478 00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:42.640 you have to select a certain number of players from 479 00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:45.799 each region that get brought up to the larger committee, 480 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:49.000 which I'm not a part of, but you basically rank 481 00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:51.240 the number of players that you think should be presented 482 00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:55.119 to that larger committee from your region. This is dating 483 00:22:55.160 --> 00:22:58.480 back to guys you know, well before I was even born. 484 00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:01.799 But it's it's looking at a bunch of these guys 485 00:23:01.799 --> 00:23:04.240 that you know, have had great careers. They look at 486 00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:07.759 their on the field, you know how they did, you know, 487 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:09.519 what they did at the NFL, if that's what they 488 00:23:09.559 --> 00:23:11.359 were able to do, as well as. 489 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:13.759 Kind of what they do now nowadays. 490 00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:15.000 And kind of like the service that they provide and 491 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:17.240 other stuff like that. So it's kind of cool to 492 00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:20.880 kind of put these names that you've seen forever and 493 00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:24.359 compare them to one another. I mean, for example, like 494 00:23:24.440 --> 00:23:28.000 Eric the Enemy, you know, obviously a great coach out there, 495 00:23:28.599 --> 00:23:31.720 he's involved in that kind of situations and being presented 496 00:23:31.720 --> 00:23:36.039 as somebody. So you get a wide range of college 497 00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:39.680 football players and trying to see, you know, if it's 498 00:23:39.720 --> 00:23:41.079 their time to be in the Hall of Fame. And 499 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:42.680 you know, some of them are on this list for 500 00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:45.440 quite a while. Others are on their for a shorter time, 501 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:47.079 and I think Eric's going to be on their first 502 00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:48.279 shorter time quite honestly. 503 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:50.559 All right, Well, good for our guy. It'd be fun 504 00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:53.240 to catch up with him today. All right, let's do 505 00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:55.920 some off season college football storyline. Since you and I 506 00:23:56.039 --> 00:23:59.160 last spoke, certain things have kind of come down the 507 00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:02.160 straight ced So we'll start with what's in front of us, 508 00:24:02.200 --> 00:24:04.839 and then we'll get to the expanded sixteen team CFP, 509 00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:08.440 but that's not until next year. The straight seating seemed 510 00:24:08.440 --> 00:24:10.519 to be one of those things that was such common 511 00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:12.839 sense that I have no clue why they didn't do 512 00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:15.880 it to begin with. So now we do have straight 513 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:18.559 seeding coming up for the twelve team expanded CFP coming 514 00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:22.400 up just simply this year. Do you agree with this 515 00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:24.720 endeavor and do you think it's probably something they should 516 00:24:24.720 --> 00:24:25.680 have done right out the gates. 517 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:29.119 Yeah, I honestly don't know why they wanted to do 518 00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:29.759 it the other way. 519 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:32.039 I mean, I get it from the standpoint they're trying 520 00:24:32.079 --> 00:24:35.039 to do whatever they can to eliminate the selection committee 521 00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:38.119 really having full control over it. But I think you 522 00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:40.480 look at a lot of people seeing Boise State and 523 00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:44.079 Arizona State being a three and four seed and not 524 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:46.960 being that highly ranked compared to some of the other peers, 525 00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:48.799 what it could do to Oregon, that. 526 00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:49.400 Kind of stuff. 527 00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:51.759 I mean, I think there's just a lot of unintended 528 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:55.200 consequences as part of it, and just you know, a 529 00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:57.240 straight seating seems to be the easiest. This is the 530 00:24:57.240 --> 00:25:00.079 thing that everybody's familiar with, whether you're playing you know, 531 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:02.880 Little League baseball all the way up to you know football, 532 00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:05.559 whatever it may be. That's how tournaments are, you know, 533 00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:08.480 one play sixteen or whatever it may be, and you're 534 00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:10.920 used to that. So I think this seemed like the 535 00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:13.279 easiest way. But college football obviously have to try to 536 00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:16.440 overcomplicate things and make things a little bit more complex 537 00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:19.839 and entertaining. So we'll see. I think this will be 538 00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:20.599 a better system. 539 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:23.519 So now we move over to what's on the table 540 00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:27.359 for twenty twenty six, which is an expanded sixteen team CFP. 541 00:25:28.200 --> 00:25:29.759 And it depends on who you talk to. 542 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:33.240 I think, well, most people out this way with the 543 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:35.680 big twelve foot print, we'll say the eleven plus five 544 00:25:35.799 --> 00:25:38.839 or whatever model is the way to go. I also 545 00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:42.240 think it's probably difficult to deny that the SEC and 546 00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:46.720 the Big ten, you know, Josh, in any negotiation, it's 547 00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:49.599 pretty simple, whoever has the leverage is going to come 548 00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:51.599 out on top. And I think it would be a 549 00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:53.880 fool's errand to pretend the SEC and the Big ten 550 00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:56.440 don't have some leverage. I don't know how much, but 551 00:25:56.559 --> 00:26:00.720 probably enough to push this for AQ for each conference 552 00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:02.640 thing through. Of course, Ryan Day comes out with his 553 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:06.319 comments today when the dust settles. Two part question, what 554 00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:08.920 do you think the sixteen team model will look like? 555 00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:10.960 And what do you want it Josh to look like? 556 00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:14.720 Ooh, those are two really interesting questions. 557 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:15.200 You know. 558 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:18.119 I've gone back and forth on this five plus eleven 559 00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:21.200 versus the four four two two one plan. I can 560 00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:25.079 see benefits and consequences of each. Honestly, though, like I 561 00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:27.599 think there's some undercurrent of all of this right where 562 00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:30.599 I think it's it's more political play where you have 563 00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:32.880 the ACC and the Big twelve saying hey, we want 564 00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:34.880 to earn it on the field, which kind of is 565 00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:36.920 a nod to the Big or the Big ten, and 566 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:39.359 the SEC kind of saying hey, look we're going to 567 00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:41.680 give you that, and we may take less because of it, 568 00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:43.920 but we don't want to give you all the power, 569 00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:47.160 you know, getting four automatic bids. But then on the 570 00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:50.559 other hand, like you're giving up two straight guarantees that 571 00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:53.559 you're going to get plus a potential maybe third if 572 00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:55.960 you managed to get in that high. You know, I 573 00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:58.480 think this is a really tricky situation. I think it's 574 00:26:58.480 --> 00:27:00.839 probably going to land somewhere closer to the five versus 575 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:04.599 eleven guarantee the top five conferences a spot and then 576 00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:09.720 straight seed from there. I just, you know, I don't know, 577 00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:10.440 this is hard. 578 00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:13.240 I feel like we're over complicating it for something that 579 00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:14.480 doesn't need to be that way. 580 00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:16.759 If you want to say it's sixteen teams, just the 581 00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:19.400 best sixteen teams are in there. If you're really that 582 00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:22.839 worried about a selection committee that you've put together, you know, 583 00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:24.400 that's that's the bigger problem. 584 00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:26.279 But the reality is is they all complain about the. 585 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:29.680 Selection committee when these are former coaches and these are 586 00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:32.319 former administrators. These are people that understand this at a 587 00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:34.960 high level. This isn't just like you and I going 588 00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:37.240 out there and trying to select the sixteen best teams. 589 00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:41.240 These are people with well intentioned, you know, reasons behind 590 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:44.000 all this stuff. And we're doing everything we can to 591 00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:46.480 kind of avoid the selection committee, and we're going to 592 00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:49.599 try to give certain conferences a number just the sixteen 593 00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:51.240 best teams need to go in there. Like, to me, 594 00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:53.920 that would be the best approach. I think that's what 595 00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:57.359 it is. You see disparity between one versus sixteen. Can 596 00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:00.519 a sixteen seed? You know make a run or upset. Sure, 597 00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:03.759 you know, any given days something can happen, But I 598 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:07.240 think it gets really tricky trying to maneuver and finagle 599 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:09.880 certain things to try to get a certain number of 600 00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:12.720 teams in there. And I just don't love that approach, 601 00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:15.720 even if it is a guarantee just straight seated go 602 00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:16.200 from there. 603 00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:20.119 So it's been a really wild news cycle over the 604 00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:21.200 past couple of months. 605 00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:23.880 As we all were awaiting the. 606 00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:28.960 House the NCAA settlement to simply provide guidelines and guardrails, 607 00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:30.759 and just we kind of all thought that would be 608 00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:34.319 across the line, and there have been a tremendous amount 609 00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:36.519 of things that have stopped the progress, a lot of 610 00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:41.000 red tape, roster number restrictions, and then what nobody saw coming. 611 00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:43.000 I certainly didn't. I don't think anybody. 612 00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:45.920 The Ross Dellingers of the world didn't seem to see 613 00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:49.440 this coming. Are a couple of states, including Tennessee and others, 614 00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:54.279 actually passing legislation telling their member institutions that reside in 615 00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:56.240 their state, like, hey, just so you know, you don't 616 00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:59.920 have to adhere to what the NCUBA House Settlement Act 617 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:02.880 actually tells you to do with nil funds. 618 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:04.519 And distributions. So good news. 619 00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:07.319 If you're in our state, you do not have to 620 00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:10.920 adhere to the guidelines that you will receive from this settlement. 621 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:17.279 And then the P four conferences draft contracts and disseminate 622 00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:21.119 those contracts to all their member institutions, saying, hey, regardless 623 00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.279 of what your state law says, if you want to 624 00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:25.559 be in one of our conferences, you do have to 625 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:29.880 adhere to what the House VNCAA settlement says about nil 626 00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.440 distributions and such. And you know, Josh, at this point, 627 00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:36.079 I just wonder if it's time for all of us 628 00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:38.920 that love this sport, cover this sport, and consume this 629 00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:42.319 sport just to say like this is the new normal, 630 00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:44.960 and it's just going to be a scenario where every 631 00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:49.160 off season essentially the only people that are enjoying it 632 00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:51.240 are the attorneys because they're going to make the money. 633 00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:55.279 And I don't know if we're still high speed ahead 634 00:29:55.839 --> 00:30:00.920 to this pro football model hybrid AF the NFC two 635 00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:05.200 conference college football reality anymore. I just think we're kind 636 00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:07.920 of in this space, and we'll be in the space 637 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:11.039 where quite some time where it's just kind of continued 638 00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.920 chaos and lawsuits and filings and state legislation, and I 639 00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:19.000 don't really see an endgame. I've just kind of accepted 640 00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:21.640 that from the standpoint of people to do the job 641 00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:24.759 that you and I do. We're just in for these 642 00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:30.319 lawsuits to be filed and then ultimately, you know, you 643 00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:33.039 have these lawyers over here deciding they want to look 644 00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:35.160 at this, and then they're going to push back on that, 645 00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:39.680 and I just think we're kind of in for reshuffling 646 00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:42.960 deck chairs and the Titanic in college football for the 647 00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:45.799 foreseeable future. I don't know that I really see an 648 00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:48.599 endgame anymore, based off the chaos we've seen this offseason. 649 00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:51.079 No, I completely agree with that. 650 00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:54.559 I mean, I think that's the frustration about a sport 651 00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:58.400 that everybody loves because it seemed more pure, right It 652 00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:01.680 seemed like you had your agencies based on you know, 653 00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:04.079 whether it be your family has always been you know 654 00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:07.240 this this fan or you went to that school. There 655 00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:09.039 was a lot of pride that went into that more 656 00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:11.279 than just a professional team, right, Like, there's different types 657 00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:14.759 of pride for that, And now that's really chipping away 658 00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:17.160 at the core of what college sports is. And I 659 00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:20.599 think that's you know, you're getting more of the hardcore fans, 660 00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:22.839 the ones that are paying attention to it every single day. 661 00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:25.559 They're the ones getting riled up, especially because they're the 662 00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:28.000 ones that understand the nuances. They're the ones that don't 663 00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:30.920 tune in suddenly in August and wonder, Okay, what's happening. 664 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:33.160 Who's on the roster. These are the people that are 665 00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:35.359 looking every single day. These are the ones that are 666 00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:38.799 paying attention. These are the ones generally probably maybe the boosters, 667 00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:41.000 the ones that are putting in the money. When you 668 00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:45.079 start disenfranchising that group, I think you lose the effect 669 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:47.759 of what college sports can be, especially in college football. 670 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:50.960 We all understand that it did shift it away, especially 671 00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:54.240 from an amateur model. It was always a mass amateur model. 672 00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:56.640 There was always a lot of different things that the 673 00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.839 NCAA screwed up. But now we're sitting in a quasi 674 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:05.440 professional realm where there's no you know, no straight understanding 675 00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:08.279 of how it's supposed to be. There's no collective bargaining agreement. There's, 676 00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:10.799 like you said, state laws that are trumping the NCAA, 677 00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:13.880 which really doesn't have any legal power anyway, and it's 678 00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:18.039 just this big cluster that doesn't really make sense for anything. 679 00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:20.880 And I think that, you know, I don't know what 680 00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:23.759 the endgame here is, right like, unless there's some sort 681 00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:27.000 of binding contracts, which will still get challenged in court. 682 00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:29.440 But unless there's some sort of binding contracts or certain 683 00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:32.319 things that kind of pull everyone together, this is going 684 00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:34.319 to continue to be the cycle every single year. And 685 00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:37.480 it's frustrating because most people, they just want to tune 686 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:39.920 into the games. They want to show up on a Saturday, 687 00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:42.559 kind of relax from all the stresses of the regular 688 00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:44.039 work week and just. 689 00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:44.839 Enjoy their team. 690 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:50.000 And now it's becoming much more professionalized, much more complicated, 691 00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:52.359 and it just doesn't feel like the sport that we 692 00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:52.799 used to know. 693 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:54.200 I mean, it's still fun, don't get me wrong. 694 00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:57.119 Ratings are still high, everybody's still excited to watch it, 695 00:32:57.200 --> 00:32:59.400 and come August September, you know, we're all going to 696 00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:02.160 forget what's happening in the summer. But there's still that 697 00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:04.759 in the background that frustrates people, that makes them not 698 00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.480 want to, you know, donate to the programs or or 699 00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:09.599 invest in in the same way, because one, you don't 700 00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:11.240 know if the players are going to be there, you 701 00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:13.079 don't know what it's going to look like. Your team 702 00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.559 may be relegated suddenly and you have no clue, and 703 00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:18.759 so it's just kind of this complicated system and nobody 704 00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:21.160 really has any standing to be able to make it work. 705 00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:24.079 One follow up here, because you're plugged into this stuff 706 00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:26.039 in a way that I probably am not, because we've 707 00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:29.480 been pretty basketball and hockey centric with the Stanley Cup 708 00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:33.319 and NBA Finals draft coming up. But in twenty seven days, 709 00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:37.920 D one athletic departments are scheduled to begin paying out 710 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:42.920 more than one billion dollars to athletes. And as of now, 711 00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:47.359 without housing the NCUBA being settled, there are no rules, 712 00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:51.559 there's no enforcement because the nc DOUBLEA has been told, 713 00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:52.599 oh hey, by the way, you. 714 00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:53.599 Can't enforce anything. 715 00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:58.319 So there's conference by conference enforcement and very little regulation 716 00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:02.640 and we're all all waiting for this settlement to take place, 717 00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:06.759 and they have twenty seven days before the more than 718 00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:09.920 one billion dollars is set to be distributed to these 719 00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:12.039 young people that play sports at schools. 720 00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:13.639 Are you hearing. 721 00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:16.000 Anything about a finished line in sight? I can't believe 722 00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:18.199 it's June fourth and we're still talking about this thing 723 00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:19.199 not being done. 724 00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:22.679 Yeah, I mean, everything has to be settled by July fifth. 725 00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:23.800 If there is a settlement. 726 00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:27.840 Obviously Claudia Wilkins could extend it beyond that, but July 727 00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:30.920 first was the date that everybody has given that everything 728 00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:32.639 has to be in. July first is the date that 729 00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:34.760 schools have to say, hey, are you in the settlement 730 00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:36.679 or not? And if you opt out, you don't have 731 00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:38.679 to pay athletes. There's a lot of other rules, but 732 00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:41.320 you know you're not tied to it. But most of 733 00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:44.599 these schools, especially at the powerflow level, have prepared for 734 00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:46.880 the last year plus to opt in. 735 00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:47.559 They're ready. 736 00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:50.159 Most of them at the very least are throwing one 737 00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:52.519 year's worth of cash into this program to see how 738 00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:54.079 it works, to try to make sure that they can 739 00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:58.320 pay players, remain competitive in this landscape that nobody really understands, 740 00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:01.360 and then kind of go from And so I think 741 00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:04.440 whether the settlement passes or not, I really think most 742 00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:07.280 schools are probably going to be moving forward that way 743 00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:09.920 because to that point, the NCAA has nothing to do 744 00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:12.360 with it, right, Like, they can't say no because what 745 00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:13.880 are you gonna how are you going to stop them? 746 00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:16.079 Right And at the end of the day, the NCAA 747 00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:18.239 is there to do the bidding of the NCAA pre 748 00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:22.079 or the college presidents and kind of put it all together. 749 00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:25.400 But when there's no framework and nothing there, it's going 750 00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:27.679 to be chaos. So I don't know that there's going 751 00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:29.400 to be a ton of change. I think the real 752 00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:34.039 problem though, comes with roster limits and scholarships, because there's 753 00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:36.920 always been this this other end where Okay, you can 754 00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:39.960 offer walk ons and you can still have your scholarships. Well, 755 00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:43.639 now everybody essentially is a scholarship player proportionally, and you 756 00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:45.880 have to be able to have a certain roster limit, 757 00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:48.440 you have to have certain things that's not going. 758 00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:50.159 To be equal if this settlement doesn't pass. 759 00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:52.920 So there's so much to go into this, and obviously 760 00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:54.320 I don't want to get into the weeds of it, 761 00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:57.679 but I think there's going to be mass chaos. But 762 00:35:57.719 --> 00:35:59.239 at the same time, I don't think it's gonna be 763 00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:02.039 To me. As I'm saying this, it reminds me of 764 00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:04.320 like if you remember, like when Y two K was 765 00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:06.599 coming and everybody's like and your milk is going into 766 00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:08.920 explode and everything, Like, I feel like we're kind of 767 00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:12.039 getting to that level where no, it'll be fine. You know, 768 00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:14.159 we'll figure it out. But I think it's kind of 769 00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:16.679 getting to that mass hysteria, to a certain settle, like 770 00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:18.079 we don't know what's going to happen, and so you 771 00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:21.280 kind of start going down to the worst case scenario situation. 772 00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:24.840 All right, Josh, let's move off of it and talk 773 00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:28.000 about some storyline surrounding Utah football. And of course the 774 00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:31.679 storyline that everybody loves every year is the schedule release 775 00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:34.599 when we actually get kick times. Let's start with the opener. 776 00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:39.599 It's at UCLA. It's nine pm Mountain time on Fox. 777 00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:43.599 I'll look, I'm single, I'm chilling, you know, like I've 778 00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:45.599 got one son. He's twenty four. He lives in New York, 779 00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:48.559 so it doesn't really affect somebody like me. But I 780 00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:51.559 can't imagine very many people out there with kids or 781 00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:55.440 deadlines or actual lives in a way that I don't 782 00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:59.159 are thrilled about a nine pm kickoff for the opener. 783 00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:02.199 Let's start there. Your thoughts, you'd tell you sala nine pm. 784 00:37:03.239 --> 00:37:05.519 Yeah, I mean it's not ideal, especially for a game 785 00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:07.199 that a lot of people thought could have at least 786 00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:11.000 a little bit more national relevance just with Nikolayamilavia. 787 00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:14.079 But I think, look that. 788 00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:16.920 First day of college football people are so excited to 789 00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:18.920 have it back that I think you're still going to 790 00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:21.000 get a lot of people tune into this game. It's 791 00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:23.159 going to be on network TV, and so it's going 792 00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:25.760 to be something that people can find readily. You know, 793 00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:28.480 maybe you've heard about this Tennessee quarterback that went to 794 00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:31.280 UCLA and you want to check it out. So you know, 795 00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:33.360 I still think you're going to get the die hards. 796 00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:36.800 The hard part here is I mean, like even here 797 00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:38.920 in Utah, that's a nine o'clock game, right, I mean, 798 00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:40.960 that's really hard for a lot of people to stay 799 00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:43.000 up for. You know, some of these people are going 800 00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:45.039 to church in the morning. Some of these people, you know, 801 00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:48.119 have different things on Sunday that they do. That becomes 802 00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:51.079 a really difficult thing. And so it's not the best. 803 00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:52.519 But at the end of the. 804 00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:54.199 Day, it's college football and we're going to watch it 805 00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:55.719 whenever it is. I mean, if the game is at 806 00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:57.719 two AM, I guarantee you people would tune in and 807 00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:01.000 watch it. So I you know, I don't get too 808 00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:03.559 caught up on it. I do like earlier games, and 809 00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.280 I think for a team like Utah, they want to 810 00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:08.679 be more on the national spotlight. But the last two 811 00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:11.760 years haven't afford to them that, and so I think 812 00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:13.960 you get the break where you are on Fox, you 813 00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:16.599 get that national line, but you're not going to get 814 00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:18.440 it in the exact prime time that you were thinking of. 815 00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:19.760 So it still works. 816 00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:21.480 It's still something that people are going to be excited 817 00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.519 for most you know, a lot of fans are going 818 00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:25.679 to go out to the Rose Bowl and check this 819 00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:27.360 game out and have fun. 820 00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:28.760 So it'll still be a good time. 821 00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:31.039 I'm opener cal Poly four o'clock. 822 00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:34.000 That feels like a really really solid time then at 823 00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:37.320 Wyoming six o'clock CBS Sports Network. But I'll ask you 824 00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:40.800 about the final game of the regular season at least 825 00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:45.440 and will you be spending Thanksgiving in Kansas, as it's 826 00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:48.320 the day after Thanksgiving and it is a ten to 827 00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:51.280 a m kick, which is aggressively early. 828 00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:54.840 Your thoughts on that, Yeah, the ten AM one. 829 00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:58.079 That one I'm more frustrated with because nobody likes that game. 830 00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:01.480 I mean, it's nice in the sense that it's it's early, 831 00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:03.280 and it's it's one of those things that people can 832 00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:06.840 wake up after Thanksgiving and enjoy. But you know, covering 833 00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:09.320 games like that, it's tough. Last year, I had to 834 00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:12.400 travel on Thanksgiving, miss you know, spending time with my 835 00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.199 family to go out to UCF to be able to 836 00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:17.199 have the Black Friday game, and that was a little 837 00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:18.960 later in the night. But you know, you have to 838 00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:21.840 take them the flights you're given this one. You know 839 00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:23.679 this is tough. I mean, you know, I'm gonna be 840 00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:26.079 once again on a plane on Thanksgiving ready for a 841 00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:29.239 ten am game. For me, I don't love it just 842 00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:30.719 because of the travel, but I'm not going to have 843 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:31.840 anybody worry about me. 844 00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:34.039 That's not my issue. I just think ten. 845 00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:37.800 Am games are just a real testing, right Like I 846 00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:40.239 think you don't want to have that at the end 847 00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:42.519 of the day. If this is on ABC, I think 848 00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:45.960 fans will be happy. If not, it's on ESPN, which 849 00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:47.599 is still good. But I think, you know, if you 850 00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:51.079 can get that ABC Utah's doing well, suddenly that becomes 851 00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:54.199 a great showing for your program and maybe you're in 852 00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:55.519 a position to be able to be in the Big 853 00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:58.119 twelve Championship. I don't know, We'll see how this team goes, 854 00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:01.119 but there's there's ten there where it could be good. 855 00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:03.119 You're gonna have a lot of eyeballs on you, but 856 00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:05.960 at the same time. That's usually the rivalry weekend, and 857 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:08.320 a lot of other teams are going to be paying 858 00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:11.599 attention to that week more than Utah Kansas. 859 00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:14.440 Tell our listeners, Josh, you guys have been covering this 860 00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:17.519 and I obviously read the stuff you write about, you know, 861 00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:20.119 anything pertaining to the you it's the twenty twenty six 862 00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:24.440 visits in the twenty twenty six recruiting class. Obviously that's 863 00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:26.719 not top of mind right now. We have a season 864 00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:30.440 prior to. But how that's kind of the main you know, 865 00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:33.079 you know, point of emphasis for this program currently, in 866 00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:36.239 this coaching staff currently. Any insight on how these visits 867 00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:37.920 went and any names you want to throw out there 868 00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:39.559 commits that our listeners should know about. 869 00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:43.199 Yeah, so Utah has two commits right now, Preston Pitts 870 00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:46.000 and Lagary Mitchell, two two good guys that I think 871 00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:48.400 are more of the underrated guys that Utah tried to 872 00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:51.719 go for and hope that they can be stars. But 873 00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:55.159 you know, starting last weekend, there's a you know, a 874 00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:58.199 large group I think it was twelve players that came 875 00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:01.159 in for an official visit. This begins a one month 876 00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:03.599 period where there's going to be something like forty five 877 00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:06.760 or more athletes coming through Utah on official visits where 878 00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:09.559 they whine and dynam really try to show how it 879 00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:16.320 is one of the prospective, you know, recruits. He showed 880 00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:20.079 video of the Utah offensive line really working through plays 881 00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:21.880 with him so that they could kind of get a 882 00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:24.559 vibe with it. So this is this is really Utah 883 00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:27.360 trying to showcase themselves to all of these kids that 884 00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:30.000 have a lot of talent, that have a lot of buyers, 885 00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:32.039 that are going to be visiting a lot of other places. 886 00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:35.280 The biggest name there, at least locally, is Celesi Mooa. 887 00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:38.199 This is an athlete who can play both sides of 888 00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:40.400 the ball. I mean, he is probably the closest that 889 00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:42.320 we've seen in a while to probably like a Travis 890 00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:45.039 Hunter style where he can play wide receiver, he can 891 00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:48.480 be on the other sides of the dB. Really talented kid, 892 00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:51.079 number one kid in the state of Utah, and so 893 00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:53.119 there's a lot of emphasis to try to get him 894 00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:56.360 to Utah. The other kid that I'll mentioned is Kelvin Obot. 895 00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:59.639 This is the number one recruit out of Idaho, you know, 896 00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:02.840 with Spencer Fano and Caleb Lomu potentially moving on to 897 00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:05.679 the NFL this next year as potential first round pigs. 898 00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:09.280 This becomes a great opportunity to get a new offensive tackled. 899 00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:11.880 And Utah has shown that they're willing to put freshmen 900 00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:13.800 in there, just like they did with Spencer Fanos, So 901 00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:17.000 that's that's the big selling point for for those And 902 00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:19.960 if you can get those two guys alone, I think 903 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.639 that really improves your chances on what this recruiting class 904 00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:24.760 can be. So this next month is going to be 905 00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:26.679 really busy for Utah. There's gonna be a lot of 906 00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:28.559 kids coming in and out of the state of Utah 907 00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:30.639 to try to kind of see what they're all about. 908 00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:32.320 And you're gonna start seeing a lot more commits here 909 00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:32.760 coming soon. 910 00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:35.960 Since you and I last spoke, Bill Conley released his 911 00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:40.000 post Spring sp plus for ESPN dot Com, and I 912 00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:42.760 like Bill and this model seems to make a lot 913 00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:45.360 of sense to me. And of course, a post Spring 914 00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:50.079 sp plus ranking certainly will not tell the entire story 915 00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:52.639 what we could see come fall, and we still have 916 00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:55.840 a number of months until we actually see these teams play. 917 00:42:56.440 --> 00:42:59.239 But when you look at the post Spring sp plus ranking, 918 00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:03.079 the highest rated Big twelve team is Case State at eighteen, 919 00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:05.760 and then it goes like this, Arizona State is twenty 920 00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:10.440 two BYU ere exeated Texas Texas twenty six BYU IS 921 00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:13.159 twenty seven, and we'll see what the rets last stuffed, 922 00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:16.039 you know, as far as how that plays out. Then 923 00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:19.559 it is TCU twenty nine in Utah thirty one, and 924 00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:22.760 Utah's right ahead of Iowa State, who's at thirty two. 925 00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:27.199 So that puts Utah at five in the Big twelve 926 00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:31.320 on Bill Conley's sp plus Vegas over under a seven 927 00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:35.079 point five, and that also puts Utah about five six seven. 928 00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:38.639 It seems like most everything I read for Big twelve 929 00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:41.840 predictions and previews has Utah kind of middle of the 930 00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:44.039 pack as opposed at the top of the pack this year. 931 00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:45.480 Does that drive with your understanding? 932 00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:47.320 Yeah, no for sure. 933 00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:49.519 And I think you know, Bill Conley does a great 934 00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:51.880 job of being able to put those things together. He 935 00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:54.920 fine tunes his data to really make sure that it 936 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:57.480 fits with the current you know, ages of the transit 937 00:43:57.559 --> 00:43:59.840 portal stuff like that. But I think that's that's really 938 00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:02.599 where Utah is going to fit, right. I think based 939 00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:05.719 on their potential on paper, they have what it takes 940 00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:07.519 to kind of be in the mix right, and I 941 00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:11.159 think you're going to see them, you know, at least 942 00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:13.679 be competitive, and people think that they can be competitive, 943 00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.000 but the real question is just canad all come together 944 00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:18.639 with so many players coming over from the transfer portal 945 00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:21.199 on the offensive side, especially, you know, it takes. 946 00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:21.480 Time to jail. 947 00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:24.760 I mean, I think there's there's you know, positions that 948 00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:27.519 help Utah in the sense that the offensive line. 949 00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:29.239 Works together, they've played together. 950 00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:31.400 That one's going to be connected, and then you've got 951 00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:34.320 a quarterback that has seemingly done really well at Jason 952 00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:37.119 Beck's offense. I think those things can work well, but 953 00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:40.199 it's still unsure how that will go against, you know, 954 00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:41.280 teams in the Big twelve. 955 00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:43.360 So I think it's a good spot for Utah. 956 00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:45.440 You know, you're not going to get this preseason polled 957 00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:48.039 where you're a top twenty five team, but you're lurking, 958 00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:48.559 we'll say. 959 00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:50.840 And so I think whether you're you know, the second. 960 00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:53.119 Tier, third tier type team and the Big twelve, I 961 00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:54.679 think that's good for Utah and I think they can 962 00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:56.679 do some damage if they live up to the potential 963 00:44:56.679 --> 00:44:57.880 that they have for themselves. 964 00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:00.920 I hate to make the rets last off a football 965 00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:04.199 story I really do. But this is a sports talk 966 00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:07.400 radio show, and so I will ask you while we're 967 00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:09.480 all kind of a waiting word about how this is 968 00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:10.199 going to play out. 969 00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:12.239 Brian Santiago made his first comments. 970 00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:13.960 I think to you, guys, is where I saw that 971 00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:17.039 since taking over as a d and he said, what 972 00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:19.360 you would expect, They're going to let the process play out. 973 00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:21.519 He has confidence it will work out. Blah blah blah 974 00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:25.119 blah blah. If if the rets last stuff comes to 975 00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:27.599 the point where they just have decided they've got to 976 00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:31.000 move on from him, what does that make BYU's football 977 00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:31.880 season look like? 978 00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:33.760 And do they have good depth in that room? 979 00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:38.280 Yeah? That one that was the real tricky question there 980 00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:41.360 because coming into spring camp they had three quarterbacks including 981 00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:44.920 rets Lass and you have experienced the k Hills, did 982 00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:47.599 you know it was up at Utah State had obviously 983 00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:50.880 started for them and had some success, but they're you know, 984 00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:54.960 it would be a definite drop off from that. They 985 00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:58.119 didn't get some in the transfer portal and stuff that way. 986 00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:01.719 But I think that becomes probably the biggest worry for 987 00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:04.480 this team, where they're predicted that seven and a half 988 00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.320 wins as well, and obviously coming off the season that 989 00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:09.679 they had. There's a lot of expectations for this team 990 00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:11.920 to be good. But if you don't get a good 991 00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:15.280 quarterback that knows the system and has that chemistry, you know, 992 00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:18.280 especially if there is this off the field drama with 993 00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:20.880 you know, I don't know if players are frustrated with this, 994 00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:23.559 you know what their feelings are, it has a real 995 00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:26.320 chance to distract, even if you have a good quarterback 996 00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:30.159 in place, to distract from kind of what you built 997 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:32.599 last year, right, And I think coming into lat from 998 00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:35.320 last year, this is a team that was overlooked. They 999 00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:38.000 kind of believed in themselves, They rallied around themselves and 1000 00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:40.840 really just kind of insulated themselves from the world. 1001 00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:43.400 And when it started to work, things gibed. 1002 00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:46.679 Right Now, you've got this huge off season hurdle that 1003 00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:49.400 you have to manage, and whether you have red left 1004 00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:52.599 back or not, that becomes a real distraction to just 1005 00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:53.199 what you're trying to. 1006 00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:54.039 Do as a team. Right. 1007 00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:58.199 Obviously, the things that are being alleged are way more serious. 1008 00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:01.639 Of what football is. But at the same time time, when. 1009 00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:04.400 We're just speaking about the football, that becomes a very 1010 00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:07.079 massive distraction, as it should, right, I mean, I think 1011 00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:09.880 if there's something serious that happens like that, it should 1012 00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:12.719 be a distraction. But I think that's unfortunate to these 1013 00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:15.400 guys that have put in their hard work and effort 1014 00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:17.719 to be able to get there, to suddenly have something 1015 00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:20.800 that didn't even impact them now distract them from kind 1016 00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:22.199 of the success that they were hoping to build. 1017 00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:26.239 All right, Josh, before I set you loose, Look, I 1018 00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:30.800 don't know if the narrative, a narrative of alex Is 1019 00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:33.840 going to hire Andre Miller was just something that we 1020 00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:36.519 created out of thin air, or maybe it was people 1021 00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:39.800 pining for Utah basketball the past and believing that one 1022 00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:43.320 two punch would be really dynamic. And I maintain, as 1023 00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:45.800 somebody who was there in the nineties that Andre has 1024 00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:48.840 a level of cachet for my generation that is hard 1025 00:47:48.880 --> 00:47:51.599 to find. But it looks like it's not going to 1026 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:54.679 be anything that we'll see, at least not anytime soon. 1027 00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:56.239 Do you have any insight here? 1028 00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:59.480 Do you know whether or not it was ever really discussed, 1029 00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:01.480 or it was ever really close And maybe is there 1030 00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:03.320 a chance that could happen at some point even though 1031 00:48:03.320 --> 00:48:04.719 it doesn't look like it's gonna happen now. 1032 00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:08.639 Yeah, there was definitely some real conversations about that. I mean, 1033 00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:12.480 there was mutual interest between Alex and Andrea to be 1034 00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:14.840 able to bring him on staff. I think with what 1035 00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:17.800 Alex was trying to build for his first year and 1036 00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:19.960 just kind of the output that he was expecting, I 1037 00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:21.719 just don't know that there was a you know, the 1038 00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:25.320 right fit right. Obviously, andre is a great ambassador of 1039 00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:27.840 the program, he was going to be a great salesman. 1040 00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:27.960 For the you. 1041 00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:30.840 He was going to bring a lot of excitement. Those 1042 00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:33.280 weren't the questions. I think it was more just with 1043 00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:36.599 what Alex was trying to do this year, what kind 1044 00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:38.440 of commitment level it would take, And I just don't 1045 00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:41.840 think they were able to agree on that. So you know, 1046 00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:44.000 whether that whether he's able to circle back to that 1047 00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:46.320 in the future time, you know, remains to be seen. 1048 00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:48.840 I think, you know, there's definitely not a door closed there, 1049 00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:51.760 but I think there, you know, Alex is trying to 1050 00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:53.760 do the best that he can to bring his model 1051 00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:55.239 and not necessarily bring back. 1052 00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:57.440 The Vick and Jarris era. He's still going to play. 1053 00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:00.719 Homage to it, try to bring in that kind of 1054 00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:02.559 era and kind of get people excited. 1055 00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:03.840 But at the end of the day. 1056 00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:06.519 This is the Alex Smith or Alex Jenson era, excuse me, 1057 00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:08.679 and you know he's got to do what he can 1058 00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:10.760 to be able to be the guy and not live 1059 00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:12.320 off the cotails of somebody else. 1060 00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:15.480 All right, Josh, good to catch up. Man, Appreciate the 1061 00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:17.519 time is always have a great week and we'll chat soon. 1062 00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:18.920 That great. 1063 00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:20.800 Appreciate it, Josh for a long. 1064 00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:23.400 Stops by today courtesy of our good friends at IFA 1065 00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:24.280 Country Stores. 1066 00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:26.079 When the seasons change. 1067 00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:28.159 Like right about now, if you're like any good coach, 1068 00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:30.199 you'll put together your game plan for a healthy, green 1069 00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:33.320 lawn and you'll turn to the experts at IFA. Check 1070 00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:36.079 out there four plus long care program everything you need 1071 00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:38.239 to make your yard a hit. It's the ultimate lawn 1072 00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:41.079 owner power move at IFA and IFA dot co Op. 1073 00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:43.840 We are your home of the Stanley Cup Finals. 1074 00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:46.800 Here in Salt Lake City, Utah and the surrounding areas. 1075 00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:50.320 We have a rematch of the Stanley Cup Final from 1076 00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:54.280 a year ago that went seven games. Florida won the 1077 00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:56.599 first three, Edmonton came back and nearly pulled off one 1078 00:49:56.599 --> 00:49:59.159 of the greatest comebacks in Stanley Cup history, and then 1079 00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:02.159 Florida was able to get it done. Game seven, so 1080 00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:05.199 tonight you can hear game one on our radio station. 1081 00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:08.119 And Neil Smith stops by to talk some hockey on 1082 00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:10.239 a Wednesday. Neil, Happy Wednesday, sir. 1083 00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:10.519 How are you? 1084 00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:13.559 I'm very good spence about yourself. 1085 00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:17.639 I'm great, appreciate the time. First question, randomly, did you 1086 00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:18.960 ever work for Jim Dolan? 1087 00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:20.760 Oh? 1088 00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:21.559 Yeah, I did. 1089 00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:23.079 Okay, Okay, that's what I thought. 1090 00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:25.840 I think I thought that you did, so I as 1091 00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:29.079 somebody who worked for the current, you know, still the 1092 00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:32.840 guy that owns the Rangers and the Knicks. We exchanged 1093 00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:35.280 a few texts, and I exchanged a few texts with 1094 00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:37.960 some other people as well. And I'm biased because you know, 1095 00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:40.760 Tom Thibodeau was Jeff's assistant and we got to know him. 1096 00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:43.079 And oh also, by the way, he's a great coach 1097 00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:45.159 that just did something for you that nobody's done in 1098 00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:49.599 thirty years. And look, you you handle it however you want. 1099 00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:52.159 You know, you're a very nice guy. You're a gentleman. 1100 00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:54.840 I'm sure not asking you to rip anybody to shreds, 1101 00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:58.119 But what was it like working for him? Shed some 1102 00:50:58.280 --> 00:51:01.639 insight into you know, listeners that maybe don't really have 1103 00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:03.760 a full picture and your thoughts on him moving on 1104 00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:05.400 from coach Sibida. 1105 00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:10.760 Well, you know, Jim is his own guy. I mean, 1106 00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:13.920 he's different than all the other people that I've run 1107 00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:18.760 into in that kind of position. He obviously inherited a 1108 00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:21.199 good deal of his wealth from Cable Vision, who was 1109 00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:26.880 able to buy the Madison Square Garden from Paramount and 1110 00:51:26.920 --> 00:51:30.719 they've had it ever since. Jim was he was a 1111 00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:34.360 little bit unpredictable when I was there, and you really, 1112 00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:36.840 you know, you weren't sure what you were going to 1113 00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:39.280 get from day to day or how he was going 1114 00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:44.400 to feel about certain things. And sometimes the view that 1115 00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:47.119 he took of things were a view that you hadn't 1116 00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:51.599 heard of before. So it was difficult, let me say, 1117 00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:54.360 it was very difficult. 1118 00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:57.840 One follow up question, we'll move away from Dolan specifically 1119 00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:00.599 because you know, as my mother off and says, if 1120 00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:02.800 you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all, 1121 00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:05.840 advice that I probably should hear to you more. But 1122 00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:07.800 just how and this is going to sound like a 1123 00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:11.639 simp question, and maybe it is, But just how important 1124 00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:18.199 is viable, balanced, consistent ownership when it comes to the 1125 00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:20.719 success of a professional sports team. 1126 00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.000 There's nothing more valuable than that You can have all 1127 00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:27.960 the great players, all the great coaches, all the great gms, 1128 00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:32.679 all the great everything. But if you have somebody at 1129 00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:36.800 the very top who owns it and who you ultimately 1130 00:52:36.840 --> 00:52:41.920 everybody reports to, that's unstable or that you that doesn't 1131 00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:46.239 let the people below, who are knowledgeable and have been 1132 00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:50.079 doing the sport their whole life, if they don't let 1133 00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:54.039 them run that business, that's sports business, You've got no 1134 00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:58.800 chance none whatsoever. You've got to allow your people to 1135 00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:02.119 do it. They do, and if you don't, you won't 1136 00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:03.159 get the result you want. 1137 00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:07.320 What have been your early impressions with the Smith Entertainment 1138 00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:09.360 Group and Ryan and Ashley in the way they've kind 1139 00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:12.960 of been able to conduct their business to support Bill 1140 00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:17.159 Armstrong his staff, Coach Torny, coach Torny and his staff 1141 00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:19.039 after only one year here in Salt Lake. 1142 00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:23.000 Well, the one thing that I can say from a 1143 00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:26.000 long ways away is that the Smith family stays out 1144 00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:30.719 of the limelight. They stay out of the They seem 1145 00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:32.880 to stay out of the operational part of it. You 1146 00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:37.159 don't hear their name coming up saying that, well, you know, 1147 00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:39.639 they wanted to do this or wanted to do that. 1148 00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:43.679 They're very much in the background, which is what a 1149 00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:46.679 really smart owner does. They stay in the background. They 1150 00:53:46.840 --> 00:53:51.039 oversee the professional people that have got a background in 1151 00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:53.960 the sport, but they stay in the background and just 1152 00:53:56.280 --> 00:54:00.159 have leadership skills to lead those people that know the 1153 00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:02.920 sport really well and know how to work in the environment, 1154 00:54:03.400 --> 00:54:05.480 but they don't interfere with the way they've got to 1155 00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:07.840 work in the environment. And I think that the Smiths, 1156 00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:12.159 from what I understand, have done really good, really well 1157 00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:15.079 at that and a point to one thing. You know, 1158 00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:18.159 would have been easy for the new owner to fire 1159 00:54:18.199 --> 00:54:21.559 everybody coming from Phoenix. You'd had no success there, What 1160 00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:23.599 makes you think they're going to have any success here. 1161 00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:26.400 Let's get a whole new management group. But he didn't 1162 00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:29.199 do that. He gave them all a chance to prove themselves. 1163 00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:32.280 Obviously to this point, he likes what he's seen and 1164 00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:36.800 he's staying steadfast with Bill Armstrong and his group. And 1165 00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:39.440 I think I really believe that's the way you lead. 1166 00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:43.760 You make your observations, you give people enough time, you 1167 00:54:44.679 --> 00:54:47.079 see how they work, and then you make your decision 1168 00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:47.559 from there. 1169 00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:51.599 Were you ever strongly encouraged or straight up forced to 1170 00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:54.039 go see a JD in the straight shot show. 1171 00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:54.400 In New York. 1172 00:54:57.079 --> 00:54:59.360 No, that never happened back then. 1173 00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:03.800 Okay, fair enough, fair enough, all right, Macro thirty thousand 1174 00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:04.800 foot view question. 1175 00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:06.360 Neil's a proud Canadian. 1176 00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:12.119 Look, you know, whether it's Edmonton or any other Canadian team, 1177 00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:15.599 But what would it mean thirty two years since the 1178 00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:18.679 Stanley Cup was won by a Canadian team, which is 1179 00:55:18.679 --> 00:55:21.880 pretty wild because y'all are the best hockey country and 1180 00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:23.719 have been for quite some time. What would it mean 1181 00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:27.119 to just the country of Canada for Edmonton to pull 1182 00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:27.559 this off? 1183 00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:31.679 You know, I think it would mean a lot only 1184 00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:34.320 because Canada is, you know, compared to the United States, 1185 00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:37.800 is a very small population wise, compared to the US, 1186 00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:39.920 and they've got the big elephants sitting next door being 1187 00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:42.559 the US that seems to be good at everything and 1188 00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:45.920 win everything, and you know, Hollywood and all the rest 1189 00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:49.559 of it. So for a Canadian team to win the 1190 00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:53.440 Cup after all these years, and it does mean a 1191 00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:56.280 lot to a lot of Canadians. Now, the people in 1192 00:55:56.320 --> 00:56:00.320 Calgary aren't cheering for Edmonton because that's their bitter rivalry. 1193 00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:04.519 So Jessica, as you know, there wasn't a lot of 1194 00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:07.400 Toronto maype Leafs fans hoping that Montreal would win in 1195 00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:10.559 ninety three against La that's the last Stanley Cup they got. 1196 00:56:11.000 --> 00:56:15.360 But for the majority of Canadians, I do think that 1197 00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:19.119 you know, if it's Edmonton versus Florida and you're living 1198 00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:24.840 in Manitoba or you're living in Ontario, I think you're 1199 00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:28.039 probably going to cheer for the Canadian based team over 1200 00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:33.760 the American based team only because it's in Canada. But 1201 00:56:33.920 --> 00:56:35.920 you know what makes me laugh about the whole thing 1202 00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:38.400 is all of the all of all of these teams 1203 00:56:38.440 --> 00:56:43.000 in the NHL are divided up amongst many nationalities, Canadian 1204 00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:46.400 and American being two of them. And so you might 1205 00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:48.800 be cheering for Edmonton, but you might be cheering for 1206 00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:51.760 a lot of American players and a lot of Russian 1207 00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:56.760 players and so on. So it's you know, you cheer 1208 00:56:56.760 --> 00:56:59.039 for your city where you're from, and then I guess 1209 00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:02.800 once your city's gone if you're in Canada, And again 1210 00:57:03.079 --> 00:57:06.400 I stressed it's a smaller country each year for the country. 1211 00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:10.519 Before we get to the game tonight, excuse me and 1212 00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:13.679 this iteration of the series. What are your memories of 1213 00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:15.719 this seven game barn burner from last year? 1214 00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:16.519 Between these two. 1215 00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:21.559 Well, I had predicted Florida to win since the regular 1216 00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:24.679 season last year, and so when they got after that 1217 00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:28.559 three nothing lead on Edmonton, it didn't surprise me. But 1218 00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:31.159 when Edmonton came roaring back and won three straight, that 1219 00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:34.119 did surprise me. And that's set up for a Game 1220 00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:38.119 seven that was spectacular. Florida, of course, as you mentioned 1221 00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:39.960 in the open winning it. I think it was two 1222 00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:45.000 to one. You know, they're both great teams, they're both 1223 00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:47.880 a notch above everybody else, and they're deserving it being 1224 00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:52.000 in the final. And this is a great final for 1225 00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:55.239 the National Hockey League because you don't have a Cinderella 1226 00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:58.800 team going in against a favorite. That happened sometimes some 1227 00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:03.239 team that has a wild card spot ends up, you know, 1228 00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:05.119 by hooker by crook, getting all the way to the 1229 00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:08.119 final and then they face the you know, the best 1230 00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:13.199 team from the other conference. And so this year you've 1231 00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:15.480 got the two teams that as the playoffs went on, 1232 00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:19.960 you could clearly see that Florida was a notch above 1233 00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:23.039 the rest of the East and Edmonton a notch above 1234 00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:25.239 the rest of the West. Now one could point out, well, 1235 00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:28.400 they both ended in third place in their division. Yeah, 1236 00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:32.119 that happens, you know it does happen. Not everybody that 1237 00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:35.519 wins the President's Trophy, which is the first overall which 1238 00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:38.760 Winnipeg won, ends up in the final. In fact, very 1239 00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:42.320 few do. So you know, they've gotten healthy at the 1240 00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:46.400 right time, They've got all their their their gears in 1241 00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:49.480 order at the right time, and I'm really excited about 1242 00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:50.079 this series. 1243 00:58:50.639 --> 00:58:53.880 So let's let's attack this individually before we get to 1244 00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:57.519 the matchup, and let's start with Edmonton. You know, they 1245 00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:01.440 just have been able to respond to adversity throughout this 1246 00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:04.880 run in a very impressive way, comebacks left and right, 1247 00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:08.639 like they almost pulled off last year in the Stanley 1248 00:59:08.679 --> 00:59:10.960 Cup Final. But they lose the first two games of 1249 00:59:11.039 --> 00:59:13.519 their first series against the Kings, they win four straight. 1250 00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:16.400 They opened game one of the second round series against 1251 00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:18.679 the Golden Knights by giving up the first two goals 1252 00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:21.880 before setting in a Stanley Cup playoff record where their 1253 00:59:21.880 --> 00:59:27.480 fifth consecutive comeback victory. And then against the Stars, the 1254 00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.840 Stars scores six straight goals to take game one, and 1255 00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:33.840 then they gave up five goals total over the next 1256 00:59:33.880 --> 00:59:35.719 four games to advance to the final. So it's this 1257 00:59:35.840 --> 00:59:39.599 interesting thing where all of their series they don't start 1258 00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:41.880 out all that well, but then they figure something out 1259 00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:45.000 and then they're just ruthless. So let's start with the 1260 00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:47.719 Oilers' takeaways and then we'll get to the Panthers and 1261 00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:50.039 we'll talk about the matchup. What stands out most about 1262 00:59:50.039 --> 00:59:51.559 this run from Edmonton, Neil. 1263 00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:56.280 Well, the obvious is the most important thing, and that's 1264 00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:58.719 Connor McDavid number ninety seven. I mean, he leads the 1265 00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:02.880 playoffs again this year, scoring and when he gets the opportunity, 1266 01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:05.119 which she won't get a lot of them against Florida, 1267 01:00:05.320 --> 01:00:08.159 but when he gets the opportunity to dance and go 1268 01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:11.039 at that high speed, he can go at and he 1269 01:00:11.159 --> 01:00:14.360 is marvelous to watch and can do crazy good things 1270 01:00:14.719 --> 01:00:17.840 for the Oilers. So you know, he plays on the 1271 01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:21.000 line with NuGen Hopkins, who's having the best playoff of 1272 01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:23.639 his life, and then forty year old Corey Perry is 1273 01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:27.280 on his other side that won the MVP of the 1274 01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:29.480 league way back when he was with the Ducks in 1275 01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:34.960 seven or eight and and so, and that's a formidable 1276 01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:39.800 line because Corey Perry takes no prisoners physically and and 1277 01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:43.679 NuGen Hopkins is a first overall pick, and Connor McDavid 1278 01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:46.519 is McDavid there's nobody else even like him. And then 1279 01:00:46.559 --> 01:00:50.079 on the second line, this is your second line has 1280 01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:52.679 Drive Cydle in the middle, who's you know, leading the 1281 01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:57.559 league and goals again this year. And you've got again 1282 01:00:57.599 --> 01:00:59.880 a tough guy with him and Evander Kaine and then 1283 01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:03.920 Casbury Cappening on his other side. So their first two 1284 01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:07.840 lines are really good. They've got a bomb of a 1285 01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:10.800 shot on the point on the power plane, Evan Bouchard. 1286 01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:15.280 Mattias Ekolm, who plays on his left side, is a 1287 01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:18.639 really good defenseman, puck moving defenseman. And then I'll just 1288 01:01:18.679 --> 01:01:20.679 skip the goal. And the goal is the one place 1289 01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:23.880 where they definitely take a back seat to Florida because 1290 01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:27.119 Stuart Skinner all always played really well in these playoffs, 1291 01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:30.760 and so is Kelvin Pickard his backup. He's always going 1292 01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:32.880 to be a question mark until he can get it done. 1293 01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:36.000 Is he going to be able to play to the 1294 01:01:36.039 --> 01:01:39.239 Paprowski level that he needs to play at to be 1295 01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:41.440 able to beat the Panthers. 1296 01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:43.599 Now over to the Panthers. 1297 01:01:44.039 --> 01:01:46.239 What stands out most to me, Neils, I'm kind of 1298 01:01:46.239 --> 01:01:49.239 looking at some of these numbers here, Nineteen different players 1299 01:01:49.400 --> 01:01:54.199 have lit the lamp this postseason, so clearly tremendous depth. 1300 01:01:54.239 --> 01:01:57.800 They're averaging more goals per game than they were last year, 1301 01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:00.639 they're giving up fewer goals per game than they did 1302 01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:03.159 last year as well. Their power play has been better, 1303 01:02:03.679 --> 01:02:06.079 and their penalty killer is the best in the playoffs. 1304 01:02:06.159 --> 01:02:08.760 So clearly there's a lot to like and there's not 1305 01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:10.480 a lot to nitpick about the Panthers. 1306 01:02:10.519 --> 01:02:13.039 What we know about them prior to Game one tonight. 1307 01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:15.480 Well, what's really going to be interesting and may be 1308 01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:17.880 on the first base off if the two coaches, or 1309 01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:20.159 let's say the visitors have to put their lineup in 1310 01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:24.000 first and if they put in Barkoff's line Barkoff, Reinhart 1311 01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:27.519 and Rodriguez, maybe it's amazing is they'll go up against 1312 01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:32.239 Connor McDavid and Nuten, Hopkins and Perry. But Barkoff won 1313 01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:34.800 this year for the second year in a row, the 1314 01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:38.880 Selke Trophy, which is the best defensive forward in the league, 1315 01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:41.719 and he's he is terrific at that, so he'll go 1316 01:02:41.800 --> 01:02:44.920 head to head against McDavid to try to shut him down. 1317 01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:50.440 But here's the other part. Out of the three finalists 1318 01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:53.440 for the Selky Trophy, Sam Reinhart was the other one 1319 01:02:54.239 --> 01:02:56.639 and he plays on that line. And then you've got 1320 01:02:56.679 --> 01:02:58.960 Evan Rodriguez, who did a lot of damage in last 1321 01:02:59.039 --> 01:03:02.239 year's playoffs and score. Their second line can score with 1322 01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:05.559 their Hagi and Bennett and Kachuck, and of course Bennett 1323 01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:10.480 and Kachuck are most known for irritating the living heck 1324 01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:13.480 out of the visiting team and whoever they play against. 1325 01:03:14.239 --> 01:03:16.960 That we haven't even mentioned Brad marsha On yet, the 1326 01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:19.320 former captain of the Bruins, who plays on the line 1327 01:03:19.320 --> 01:03:23.360 with Lundell and Listerina. They got a terrific top three 1328 01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:27.360 lines there, and maybe not the star studded McDavid dry 1329 01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:31.679 Sidle type of name that everybody's heard of, but guys 1330 01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:33.800 that can all put the puck in the net. And 1331 01:03:33.800 --> 01:03:36.360 that's why you say so many different players have scored 1332 01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:40.199 for the Panthers, and I like their defense. Aaron Actlat 1333 01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:44.960 has been good offensively this playoff and Forestling was great 1334 01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:47.480 last year. But Seth Jones that they got into trade 1335 01:03:47.480 --> 01:03:52.639 from Chicago before the deadline has really added some great 1336 01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:55.800 one B depth. So if Aaron Ecklad is one A 1337 01:03:56.360 --> 01:03:59.119 Seth Jones is at least one B, and then you've 1338 01:03:59.159 --> 01:04:02.360 got Pubrowski, who pretty much a household name now if 1339 01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:04.840 you watch hockey, because they he won it all for 1340 01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:05.719 them last year. 1341 01:04:06.119 --> 01:04:09.360 All right, now that we've learned about both these teams individually, 1342 01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:13.000 right now, the money as far as betting goes on 1343 01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:18.000 sportsbooks going towards Edmonton pretty overwhelmingly. How do they match 1344 01:04:18.119 --> 01:04:21.280 up and X factors for both sides as far as 1345 01:04:21.280 --> 01:04:25.280 how you think this thing is going to go, you. 1346 01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:30.880 Know, they match up extremely well. I think that the 1347 01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:33.679 Oilers are not going to get the opportunities that they 1348 01:04:33.719 --> 01:04:37.280 got against Dallas Vegas or in the first round against 1349 01:04:37.320 --> 01:04:40.079 the La Kings. They're not going to get those because 1350 01:04:40.079 --> 01:04:43.400 they're going to be Florida is a very good shutdown team. 1351 01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:46.639 Florida is going to have to capitalize on a few 1352 01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:49.280 chances they get. And again I think it goes back 1353 01:04:49.519 --> 01:04:54.599 Spence to Stuart Skinner versus Sergey Brabrovski. If one of 1354 01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:56.840 them let's in a bad goal, it's going to be huge. 1355 01:04:56.880 --> 01:04:58.440 And when I say a bad goal, it doesn't mean 1356 01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:01.159 they should score from center. Means a shot that they 1357 01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:04.599 should have had that they somehow didn't get and the 1358 01:05:04.679 --> 01:05:08.519 other team takes a lead. So I would expect tonight 1359 01:05:08.519 --> 01:05:11.599 that Edmonton would start out slow. They seem to always 1360 01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:16.880 do that at home for some reason. And Florida. Florida's 1361 01:05:16.920 --> 01:05:19.280 ready for them. I mean, they've had more rest. Both 1362 01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:22.800 teams are very well rested. The other thing I should 1363 01:05:22.840 --> 01:05:28.400 mention is that Zach Hyman dislocated his wrist against Mason 1364 01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:31.800 Marchmont on the Dallas Stars in that series, and he's 1365 01:05:31.800 --> 01:05:35.920 a huge part of the Edmonton oilers. If he was playing, 1366 01:05:36.159 --> 01:05:37.599 he would have been one of the names I would 1367 01:05:37.639 --> 01:05:39.719 have brought up when we talked about Edmonton. But he's 1368 01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:41.840 out of the lineup. That's a bit of a blow. 1369 01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:43.920 You know. 1370 01:05:44.039 --> 01:05:46.719 If you asked me to pick a peck of winter, 1371 01:05:46.840 --> 01:05:49.079 and we do it on our podcast all the time, 1372 01:05:49.719 --> 01:05:52.440 I don't know where which way to go. I've been 1373 01:05:52.480 --> 01:05:55.679 calling Florida for a lot of long time now, so 1374 01:05:56.000 --> 01:05:59.000 I would stick with that. But nothing would surprise me 1375 01:05:59.039 --> 01:05:59.559 in this series. 1376 01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:00.719 Nothing. 1377 01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:03.960 Yeah, I was going to ask you because based off. 1378 01:06:03.800 --> 01:06:07.039 Of everything that I've been reading and watching, I've heard 1379 01:06:07.199 --> 01:06:08.800 a lot of people straight up say this is a 1380 01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:10.519 pick them and it could go one way or the other. 1381 01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:13.599 Are you surprised that the majority of the public money 1382 01:06:13.639 --> 01:06:17.920 is going the way of the Edmonton Oilers. 1383 01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:21.119 I am, and I think that they might, you know 1384 01:06:21.159 --> 01:06:25.280 that they might just be in love with the Connor 1385 01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:27.920 McDavid factor and the Leon dry Sidle factor and the 1386 01:06:28.559 --> 01:06:31.320 new guys on the block. And this is a revenge 1387 01:06:32.039 --> 01:06:36.960 Cup and that has favored the team that didn't win 1388 01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:40.679 the year before in a lot of times. I can 1389 01:06:40.760 --> 01:06:43.719 tell you that for sure, Florida is not as sexy 1390 01:06:43.719 --> 01:06:46.920 as Edmonton because they don't have Connor McDavid and Leon 1391 01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:49.519 Drye Sidle on these guys, so they're not as sexy, 1392 01:06:49.559 --> 01:06:52.599 but they're boy, they're a hard working team. You should 1393 01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:56.159 compare to two great coaches. Chris knob Block for the 1394 01:06:56.320 --> 01:06:59.760 Edmonton Oilers has done a fantastic job. He came in 1395 01:06:59.760 --> 01:07:02.440 part way through last season, led them to the final, 1396 01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:04.760 and now he's leading them to the Final again. And 1397 01:07:04.800 --> 01:07:07.719 then of course Paul Maurice Shu's in his fourth year 1398 01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:15.199 with the Florida Panthers and has done a terrific job there. 1399 01:07:15.239 --> 01:07:20.920 Their first year, the upset the record breaking Boston Bruins 1400 01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:24.840 in the first round, and then last year we know 1401 01:07:24.880 --> 01:07:26.840 what they did and now here they are again this year, 1402 01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:30.599 so they're terrific well prepared teams. The coaches are going 1403 01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:35.400 to have them really going hard. And again I think 1404 01:07:35.800 --> 01:07:37.840 it is a Pickham thing. I don't know why all 1405 01:07:37.840 --> 01:07:41.760 the money would be going towards Edmonton other than if people, 1406 01:07:41.880 --> 01:07:44.119 just as I said, just think, well, it's their turn, 1407 01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:45.280 so I'm going with them. 1408 01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:49.239 Fourteen of the twenty three quote unquote experts AUDIESPN dot 1409 01:07:49.239 --> 01:07:53.199 COM's hockey page as Edmonton winning the series. Tell me 1410 01:07:53.199 --> 01:07:57.960 about these two coaches, Neil and then Attendant to that question. Oftentimes, 1411 01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:00.880 when you get this late into the season in and 1412 01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:04.639 you're playing for a trophy, yeah you do make adjustments 1413 01:08:04.840 --> 01:08:07.159 here there game to game, but more often than not, 1414 01:08:07.239 --> 01:08:08.960 you kind of are who you are this late in 1415 01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:10.920 the season and we're just going to do what we do. 1416 01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:13.119 But tell me about these two coaches and what sort 1417 01:08:13.119 --> 01:08:15.639 of adjustments you think will be necessary for one or the. 1418 01:08:15.599 --> 01:08:16.720 Other to come out on top. 1419 01:08:18.119 --> 01:08:21.159 Well, Chris Knoblock with the Oilers has to get that 1420 01:08:21.239 --> 01:08:24.279 power play going. Their power play hasn't been nearly what 1421 01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:27.239 it was last year and their penalty killing either, but 1422 01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:30.920 especially their power play. He's got to get when when 1423 01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:34.119 the Panthers take up that penalty or take a penalty. 1424 01:08:34.399 --> 01:08:36.840 They've got to be able to threaten to take advantage 1425 01:08:36.840 --> 01:08:39.600 of that, because one of the things about the Panthers 1426 01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:42.680 is they play that dirty, grimy game where they want 1427 01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:45.239 to get in your face all the time. On the 1428 01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:48.199 other side, you know they're they're going to have to 1429 01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:52.439 lock down McDavid and dry Sidle and that's a hard job. 1430 01:08:52.520 --> 01:08:54.640 But they've got two of the best guys for that 1431 01:08:54.760 --> 01:08:57.840 in Barkoff and Ryan Hard and as I said, backed 1432 01:08:57.920 --> 01:09:02.520 up by two guys Bennett and Kachuk. But Paul Maurice 1433 01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:06.159 has been around for a long, long long time, a 1434 01:09:06.199 --> 01:09:09.800 really good coach, and I don't think they'll be a 1435 01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:14.319 better prepared team than the Florida Panthers. But Chris Knoblock, 1436 01:09:14.359 --> 01:09:16.560 who's assistant that, by the way, is Paul Coffee, the 1437 01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:19.279 great Paul Coffee. He runs a defense for them, and 1438 01:09:19.319 --> 01:09:21.960 he's won a few Stanley Cups, So they're going to 1439 01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:25.640 be well prepared too. It's hard to you might hear 1440 01:09:25.680 --> 01:09:28.680 it in my voice. I can't give the edge to anybody. 1441 01:09:29.079 --> 01:09:31.079 They're both great and they're both deserving. 1442 01:09:31.560 --> 01:09:35.680 Is there kind of a mini rivalry budding here? I mean, 1443 01:09:35.800 --> 01:09:38.520 you reference Bennett and Kachuk, who are just irritants no 1444 01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:42.199 matter what. And maybe it's because Mick David is Canadian 1445 01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:44.720 and you're nicer than we are. But I listened to 1446 01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:48.319 interview with him and he didn't indicate there was very 1447 01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:50.479 much bad blood. But these two teams saw each other 1448 01:09:50.600 --> 01:09:53.319 year ago in a seven game series. Does it feel 1449 01:09:53.399 --> 01:09:58.039 like there's an underlying dislike sports hatred kind of brewing. 1450 01:09:58.079 --> 01:10:01.159 Here are these two teams that are maybe not necessarily 1451 01:10:02.199 --> 01:10:05.600 in a space where they have bad feelings for one another, 1452 01:10:05.640 --> 01:10:07.800 even though this is the second straight Stanley Cup final 1453 01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:08.720 they'll be battling for. 1454 01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:12.640 I think if they don't have bad feelings for each other, 1455 01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:15.199 they will have about ten minutes into the game, because 1456 01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:18.560 that's how intense this thing will be. Yeah, and they do. 1457 01:10:18.920 --> 01:10:21.359 They do have negative feelings. I mean, one team walked 1458 01:10:21.399 --> 01:10:24.760 off with the cup, the other team walked off in tears. 1459 01:10:26.119 --> 01:10:30.439 And so Connor McDavid wants to cement his legacy by 1460 01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:32.239 winning a Stanley Cup. It's one thing to be the 1461 01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:35.439 greatest player in the league's that's all good and well, 1462 01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:37.520 but you've got to win a cup to really cement 1463 01:10:37.760 --> 01:10:40.239 how good you are. And that's what Connor McDavid really 1464 01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:42.479 wants to do. At the other end, they're going to 1465 01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:44.760 try to stop them from they want to win their 1466 01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:47.560 second in a row as their cross state rival that 1467 01:10:47.640 --> 01:10:50.479 Tampa Bay Lightning did just not too long ago. So 1468 01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:56.199 it's again it's going to be a battle. And you know, 1469 01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:58.279 I think that dry Cidle and McDavid are going to 1470 01:10:58.359 --> 01:11:01.359 want the one thing they have never had and that 1471 01:11:01.520 --> 01:11:04.600 is a Stanley Cup. And we'll see, I mean, you'll 1472 01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:07.279 know some stuff. Five to ten minutes into the game, 1473 01:11:07.800 --> 01:11:12.159 you're already gonna see some things happening. And as I said, 1474 01:11:12.600 --> 01:11:15.840 you sit down right from the opening face, I don't 1475 01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:17.199 miss a minute of this one. 1476 01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:20.319 So before I do have one more Utah man with 1477 01:11:20.319 --> 01:11:22.199 a question for you before I set you loose. 1478 01:11:22.319 --> 01:11:24.199 But it sounds like, based off. 1479 01:11:24.039 --> 01:11:26.319 Of the way you've been breaking down the potential of 1480 01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:28.680 this series and everything I'm kind of reading and watching, 1481 01:11:29.720 --> 01:11:32.920 you know, there's nothing better than a Game seven and 1482 01:11:33.039 --> 01:11:35.279 the Stanley Cup playoffs and we didn't get one of 1483 01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:36.159 the conference finals. 1484 01:11:36.199 --> 01:11:37.920 Does it feel like this has a good chance to 1485 01:11:37.920 --> 01:11:38.600 go the distance? 1486 01:11:40.119 --> 01:11:43.000 Absolutely? Absolutely. And I've always said, and you could hear 1487 01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:46.600 me say this on the podcast. Sometimes when i'm picking 1488 01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:49.920 projecting who's going to win the series. I say I 1489 01:11:49.960 --> 01:11:53.479 go full chicken leaning, I go game seven, because I 1490 01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:56.399 feel that's the chicken chicken's way out is to say 1491 01:11:56.399 --> 01:11:59.199 it will go seven. You're really hedging your bets. But 1492 01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:01.920 in this one, just from watching them last year, just 1493 01:12:01.960 --> 01:12:04.199 from watching how great they are this year, just from 1494 01:12:04.439 --> 01:12:09.000 knowing the type of you know, thirst and hunger that 1495 01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:12.239 these two teams have to win the Cup. They know 1496 01:12:12.319 --> 01:12:15.680 they are four wins away from, you know, the great 1497 01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:19.479 trophy of the Stanley Cups. So I would not at 1498 01:12:19.520 --> 01:12:22.319 all be surprised if it didn't go seven. And as fact, 1499 01:12:22.359 --> 01:12:23.880 if you made me name how many games is going 1500 01:12:23.920 --> 01:12:26.079 to go, that's the only one I would say is seven. 1501 01:12:26.520 --> 01:12:30.119 Let's move over to a couple of offseason initiatives and 1502 01:12:30.159 --> 01:12:33.279 potentials for the Utah Mammoth dads and pieces, and we'll 1503 01:12:33.319 --> 01:12:37.039 start with the draft where the Utah Mammoth jumped from 1504 01:12:37.039 --> 01:12:38.039 fourteen to four. 1505 01:12:39.239 --> 01:12:40.239 Here's my question. 1506 01:12:40.279 --> 01:12:43.399 It's just more of a big picture, general type question 1507 01:12:44.159 --> 01:12:46.560 because I've seen a bunch of mock drafts. I think 1508 01:12:46.600 --> 01:12:48.840 a lot of people believe the Mammoth need dad to 1509 01:12:49.199 --> 01:12:52.560 the defensive portion of their team. But for according to 1510 01:12:52.600 --> 01:12:54.800 what I've read feels like a stretch for even the 1511 01:12:54.840 --> 01:12:59.479 best defensive players in this draft. How often, and look, 1512 01:12:59.520 --> 01:13:03.760 they're all unicorns and there are always opportunities that sometimes 1513 01:13:03.800 --> 01:13:07.800 we don't see. But how often are these young kids 1514 01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:09.079 ready to play right away? 1515 01:13:09.199 --> 01:13:11.439 When you're drafting at four that's very high? 1516 01:13:11.479 --> 01:13:14.600 Is it realistic for Bill Armstrong and his staff to 1517 01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:18.039 bring an instant help to the hockey club? Or will 1518 01:13:18.119 --> 01:13:20.600 be a situation where they draft a young prospect and 1519 01:13:20.640 --> 01:13:23.119 watch them grow Internashley or and juniors and such. 1520 01:13:24.319 --> 01:13:29.039 It will probably be a case of drafting a young 1521 01:13:29.079 --> 01:13:34.239 player and watching him get better in junior. Right now, 1522 01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:38.960 Jcobrien has rated number four in the draft, who's a 1523 01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:43.199 six' to two center playing In, Branford. Ontario and right 1524 01:13:43.239 --> 01:13:47.640 behind him Is Raddick, murca who's a six foot five 1525 01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:52.239 defenseman playing In. Seattle so you, KNOW i don't know 1526 01:13:52.239 --> 01:13:55.239 how close those two guys are on The mammoths rating 1527 01:13:55.319 --> 01:14:00.800 of their, scouts but you know you've probably fall in around, 1528 01:14:00.840 --> 01:14:05.600 there and who, knows maybe they could Play defenceman usually 1529 01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:09.399 don't play the first year because defense is a much 1530 01:14:09.399 --> 01:14:13.039 harder position to, learn because one mistake and it could 1531 01:14:13.039 --> 01:14:16.000 be in your net so a defenseman is it takes 1532 01:14:16.039 --> 01:14:20.079 more time than a. Forward but it's possible the kid 1533 01:14:20.079 --> 01:14:24.880 could play this. Year more than likely they'll put him 1534 01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:26.479 back to give him more time to. 1535 01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:29.840 Develop let me ask you about your former, club The 1536 01:14:29.880 --> 01:14:33.319 New York, islanders as the lottery delivered a franchise altering 1537 01:14:33.399 --> 01:14:35.800 opportunity to them with the number one overall, pick and 1538 01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:38.840 it seems like people debate The Matthew schaeffer kid against 1539 01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:41.359 The Michael misa. Kid i'm not going to sit, Here 1540 01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:43.520 neil tell. You i've been grinding tape on either of 1541 01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:45.960 these two. PLAYERS i don't know anything about. Them do 1542 01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:47.720 you have a? Preference and who do you think The 1543 01:14:47.720 --> 01:14:48.840 islanders land on and? 1544 01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:54.000 Why, well first of, all there's a kid From Long 1545 01:14:54.039 --> 01:14:56.960 island in this, draft rated THIRD i Think James haygenes 1546 01:14:57.159 --> 01:15:02.039 and plays At Boston, college and so it'll be interesting 1547 01:15:02.039 --> 01:15:05.199 to see if The islanders are swayed at all by 1548 01:15:05.279 --> 01:15:07.840 the fact that he's From Long island that they would 1549 01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:12.960 go that. Direction but you, KNOW i Just shafer And 1550 01:15:13.840 --> 01:15:16.560 mesa are not that far, APART i. GUESS i, MEAN 1551 01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:20.680 i would think that usually the guy that was ranked 1552 01:15:20.760 --> 01:15:22.960 number one in the middle of the season Was Matthew 1553 01:15:22.960 --> 01:15:25.039 shafer and he's still ranked number one at the end 1554 01:15:25.079 --> 01:15:27.960 of the. Season that tells me that he's probably going 1555 01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:32.119 to be number. One but, AGAIN i haven't been grinding tape. 1556 01:15:32.159 --> 01:15:35.199 Either spend a few how he's, playing all? 1557 01:15:35.279 --> 01:15:37.720 Right BEFORE i say you, lose you, know last week 1558 01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:40.199 we went over the free agent. List we will not 1559 01:15:40.279 --> 01:15:42.680 do that again this. Week i'll just ask you this 1560 01:15:42.760 --> 01:15:46.479 before set you. Lose the projected cap space for The 1561 01:15:46.560 --> 01:15:49.479 Utah mammoth is about twenty one. Mili they have all 1562 01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:53.600 their picks and so they have. Optionality is that's the 1563 01:15:53.640 --> 01:15:56.920 new buzzword in roster construction and pro sports these. Days 1564 01:15:57.680 --> 01:15:59.600 prior to the start of the, season what would you 1565 01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:01.760 say to the fan base about what you'd like to 1566 01:16:01.800 --> 01:16:05.359 See bill and the staff, do just generally, speaking whether 1567 01:16:05.479 --> 01:16:08.319 it is a continued brick by brick build or maybe 1568 01:16:08.319 --> 01:16:10.720 expedite the growth of the young players with some veteran. 1569 01:16:10.720 --> 01:16:12.439 Pieces what do you what do you think the. 1570 01:16:12.720 --> 01:16:15.640 Boxes that need to be checked for this hockey team 1571 01:16:15.840 --> 01:16:18.520 next year to take that proverbial next step and maybe 1572 01:16:18.560 --> 01:16:19.000 even make the. 1573 01:16:19.039 --> 01:16:23.199 Playoffs, well two Things i'd really like to see them 1574 01:16:23.239 --> 01:16:27.520 get a player that has a lot of experience maybe 1575 01:16:27.800 --> 01:16:30.479 a little bit longer in the tooth than the people 1576 01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:32.880 that they've got there right, now but can bring some 1577 01:16:32.960 --> 01:16:37.359 pedigree that had been. Winning not a forty year, old 1578 01:16:37.399 --> 01:16:41.079 BUT i mean certainly somebody that has been around is 1579 01:16:41.159 --> 01:16:43.800 one and that can help younger. Players eddie And cole 1580 01:16:43.840 --> 01:16:48.560 there for that very reason. Already So i'd love to 1581 01:16:48.600 --> 01:16:50.159 see it if they could do. That and then if 1582 01:16:50.279 --> 01:16:52.840 if they, could and if it fits with their, program 1583 01:16:52.840 --> 01:16:55.199 AND i know they have the money to get one 1584 01:16:55.239 --> 01:16:58.520 of these top, guys you, know if they can A, 1585 01:16:58.640 --> 01:17:04.680 marner A, Besser Nikolai eelers that played In, winnipeg those 1586 01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:07.279 three seem to be the top three. NAMES i, mean 1587 01:17:07.359 --> 01:17:10.039 that would give some star power also to The mammoth 1588 01:17:10.079 --> 01:17:16.560 and perhaps raise them up another notch in the another 1589 01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:19.119 notch up in the standings and be able to get 1590 01:17:19.159 --> 01:17:20.079 into the playoffs next. 1591 01:17:20.159 --> 01:17:23.479 Year is there like a Cool Neil Smith Stanley cup 1592 01:17:23.520 --> 01:17:25.560 final watch party THAT i did get invited? 1593 01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:26.640 To how are you going to be watching the? 1594 01:17:26.680 --> 01:17:29.640 Game, No i'm going to be. Swell the watch party 1595 01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:33.720 is going to be. Me my eight month old yellow 1596 01:17:33.760 --> 01:17:36.319 Lab sammy will be sitting on one side of, me 1597 01:17:36.720 --> 01:17:39.479 and my twelve year old chocolate. LAB aj will be 1598 01:17:39.479 --> 01:17:41.520 sitting on the other side of. Me we will be 1599 01:17:41.560 --> 01:17:43.960 staring at an eighty six inch screen THAT i have 1600 01:17:44.039 --> 01:17:48.880 above my, mantle and we might even have a few beverages. 1601 01:17:49.279 --> 01:17:52.520 Together i'll bring out their bowl and pour some butt 1602 01:17:52.600 --> 01:17:53.000 light in their. 1603 01:17:53.039 --> 01:17:57.279 Bowl dogs, welcome people. Tolerated neil is my personal. Philosophy 1604 01:17:57.279 --> 01:17:59.640 that sounds like a good. Time, hey BEFORE i say 1605 01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:01.439 you lose our, listeners where they can? Go get that 1606 01:18:01.479 --> 01:18:02.039 podcast to? 1607 01:18:02.119 --> 01:18:02.640 Yours? 1608 01:18:03.399 --> 01:18:03.600 Well. 1609 01:18:03.640 --> 01:18:07.079 Apple Apple podcasts platform is. Great you can get it On, 1610 01:18:07.119 --> 01:18:12.680 spotify you can watch us on. YouTube it's on every 1611 01:18:12.720 --> 01:18:16.000 platform you can think. Of so whatever platform you use for, 1612 01:18:17.039 --> 01:18:21.680 podcasts we're on there AT Nhl Wrap, Around and As 1613 01:18:21.680 --> 01:18:24.560 i've said every, WEEK i think that anybody that listens 1614 01:18:24.640 --> 01:18:27.920 or watches will learn. Something we've always got entertaining guests 1615 01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:29.479 and we have a lot. 1616 01:18:29.319 --> 01:18:29.880 Of fun doing. 1617 01:18:29.920 --> 01:18:32.039 It, neil thank, you my. FRIEND i appreciate. 1618 01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:34.399 It excited to get going, tonight so enjoy it with 1619 01:18:34.479 --> 01:18:35.560 the doggos and we'll chat. 1620 01:18:35.600 --> 01:18:38.159 Soon, Okay, hey did you tell your DAD i was 1621 01:18:38.199 --> 01:18:40.560 on last? Week remember he was in. TOWN i think 1622 01:18:40.600 --> 01:18:41.680 WHEN i talked to, YOU i. 1623 01:18:41.720 --> 01:18:43.720 Did, Yeah, NO i let him know AND i sent 1624 01:18:43.800 --> 01:18:46.199 him the link to our listening to the, interview so 1625 01:18:46.239 --> 01:18:48.399 hopefully he. Did But i'm gonna let you check in 1626 01:18:48.399 --> 01:18:50.079 with him on that because he'll lie to me and 1627 01:18:50.079 --> 01:18:52.119 says he listens every, Day so that's gonna. 1628 01:18:51.920 --> 01:18:52.399 Be up to, you. 1629 01:18:54.159 --> 01:18:55.199 All, Right stay. 1630 01:18:55.239 --> 01:18:56.199 Here thank, You, Neil. 1631 01:18:56.079 --> 01:18:58.760 Neil, smith The Great Neil, smith helping us learn about 1632 01:18:58.760 --> 01:19:00.560 this pro sport that we now have in this. 1633 01:19:00.720 --> 01:19:02.000 Market always appreciate his. 1634 01:19:02.119 --> 01:19:05.880 Time stops by today courtesy of our friends AT Ifa Country. 1635 01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:08.880 Stores summer vacations and warmer weather are just beyond the. 1636 01:19:08.920 --> 01:19:12.479 Horizon as the days grow longer and brightly colored flowers 1637 01:19:12.520 --> 01:19:14.920 begin making their, Appearance it's time to start planning and 1638 01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:18.600 Applying step two OF I phase four plus annual long 1639 01:19:18.640 --> 01:19:21.199 care program that's designed with a blend of vital macro 1640 01:19:21.479 --> 01:19:25.399 and micro. 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Nut it's the best. 1653 01:19:57.600 --> 01:20:01.399 NUT i shout out In nicole in our. Office Love. 1654 01:20:01.520 --> 01:20:05.520 Nicole she has a lovely basket of. Snacks so if 1655 01:20:05.520 --> 01:20:07.399 you're not in the mood to spend seven bucks on 1656 01:20:07.640 --> 01:20:10.279 snickers in our little canteen or whatever the hell it, 1657 01:20:10.359 --> 01:20:12.640 is you can always walk back and say hello To. 1658 01:20:12.720 --> 01:20:13.680 Nicole she's got some. 1659 01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:16.920 Pistachios she's got some cereal bars and some oatmeal if 1660 01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:21.800 you'd like, SO i grab some. Pistachios. Pistachios that's got 1661 01:20:21.840 --> 01:20:23.159 to be on the short list of the best. 1662 01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:23.640 Nut it. 1663 01:20:23.680 --> 01:20:25.479 Does it might be the best. 1664 01:20:25.560 --> 01:20:29.920 Nut but the the caveat on that is that to 1665 01:20:29.960 --> 01:20:31.800 get to it unless. 1666 01:20:31.479 --> 01:20:34.680 You're, no these are. Shellless that's the, thing you. Know 1667 01:20:34.800 --> 01:20:37.039 if you're a shellless pistaschio, guy. 1668 01:20:38.560 --> 01:20:38.960 You call me. 1669 01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:42.479 Lazy, no it's just, uh it's it's a it's a. 1670 01:20:42.479 --> 01:20:44.279 Privilege what are you talking? 1671 01:20:44.319 --> 01:20:45.920 About you, know? 1672 01:20:48.079 --> 01:20:50.399 Peanuts are you SAYING i have white privilege Because i'm eating? 1673 01:20:50.920 --> 01:20:55.159 Pistachios without. Shows you have pistachio PRIVILEGE a new, thing you. 1674 01:20:55.159 --> 01:20:58.800 KNOW i like a good CASHIW i like a good salted. 1675 01:20:58.840 --> 01:21:03.800 Peanut almonds are almonds are? Underrated like smoked. Almonds have 1676 01:21:03.840 --> 01:21:04.960 you ever tried the wasabi? 1677 01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:06.159 Almonds those are? Good are. 1678 01:21:06.159 --> 01:21:09.439 Lovely i'm a big nut. GUY i LIKE i. Like 1679 01:21:09.479 --> 01:21:12.840 i'm a trail. Mix it doesn't surprise. YOU a lot 1680 01:21:12.880 --> 01:21:15.560 of oats and nuts and granola bars and such. 1681 01:21:17.319 --> 01:21:19.840 Best. Nuts shelled pistachios usually. 1682 01:21:19.640 --> 01:21:22.319 Text in eight seven seven three five three. Zero see 1683 01:21:22.319 --> 01:21:26.239 here's this is a really interesting radio. LESSON i could 1684 01:21:26.239 --> 01:21:29.000 ask our listeners, like text in who's gonna Win edmonton Or? 1685 01:21:29.039 --> 01:21:29.960 Florida we get two. 1686 01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:33.520 TEXTS i bet right now eight seven seven three five 1687 01:21:33.600 --> 01:21:35.800 three zero seven hundred texts in your favorite, Nut we're 1688 01:21:35.840 --> 01:21:36.640 about to get fifty. 1689 01:21:36.680 --> 01:21:37.479 Texts you're probably. 1690 01:21:37.560 --> 01:21:41.279 Right that's just how kind of sports talk radio. Works Eric, 1691 01:21:41.319 --> 01:21:44.560 Weddle College Football hall Of. Famer he's a. Nut he 1692 01:21:44.680 --> 01:21:46.640 is a nut in a good. Way just to be, 1693 01:21:46.720 --> 01:21:48.600 clear in a good. WAY i mean this feels, like you, 1694 01:21:48.680 --> 01:21:53.039 know brainer interesting here From Josh furlong with his breakdout 1695 01:21:53.039 --> 01:21:53.199 of that. 1696 01:21:53.279 --> 01:21:55.760 EARLIER i did not Know josh was involved with that. Committee. 1697 01:21:56.279 --> 01:21:58.720 Uh, anyway he does not get the votes he needs 1698 01:21:58.760 --> 01:21:59.800 to make The College Football hall Of. 1699 01:21:59.840 --> 01:22:00.560 Fame there is a. 1700 01:22:00.560 --> 01:22:02.159 Way there's a lot of, ways just because of how 1701 01:22:02.159 --> 01:22:05.039 it's set up and how many people there are kind of. 1702 01:22:05.039 --> 01:22:08.039 Eligible you, know he's one of a bunch of different, 1703 01:22:08.119 --> 01:22:11.479 candidates and some of these, guys Like josh, mentioned are 1704 01:22:11.960 --> 01:22:14.479 candidates that have been on the ballot for like one hundred. Years, 1705 01:22:14.680 --> 01:22:19.239 Right so there's quite a few scenarios Which eric doesn't 1706 01:22:19.319 --> 01:22:23.880 land on The College Football hall Of. Fame BUT i 1707 01:22:23.880 --> 01:22:27.039 think he's a guy who very much should be. There 1708 01:22:27.079 --> 01:22:30.960 i'll be, Honest and maybe this is a hot take 1709 01:22:31.079 --> 01:22:35.640 until you really dive into the. Numbers Eric weddle may 1710 01:22:35.760 --> 01:22:39.560 have as good or better a case for The Pro 1711 01:22:39.600 --> 01:22:42.399 Football hall Of fame than he does for the one 1712 01:22:42.439 --> 01:22:45.479 he just got. Nominated for a guy, that let's be, 1713 01:22:45.479 --> 01:22:47.880 clear was really good in college played both sides of the, 1714 01:22:47.880 --> 01:22:51.600 ball but he did leave early and went and started 1715 01:22:51.600 --> 01:22:55.520 HIS nfl career and is one of like five defensive 1716 01:22:55.600 --> 01:23:01.680 backs to reach the amount of tackles. Interceptions it's just 1717 01:23:01.720 --> 01:23:05.159 a remarkable career for a guy, who you, KNOW i 1718 01:23:05.199 --> 01:23:08.640 think is A hall Of Famer college Pro whichever way you. 1719 01:23:08.600 --> 01:23:11.520 Slice, it we'll get to you at coming up in 1720 01:23:11.560 --> 01:23:14.960 the four o'clock, hour random, question non secut are you 1721 01:23:14.960 --> 01:23:15.319 ready for? 1722 01:23:15.359 --> 01:23:22.520 It and the answer may be, simply it's THE. 1723 01:23:22.640 --> 01:23:26.359 Nfl the answer may be, simply it's, football And america loves. 1724 01:23:26.359 --> 01:23:33.199 Football but it's an interesting dynamic all the. Time for 1725 01:23:33.239 --> 01:23:37.199 me WHEN i hear people break down AT Nba finals 1726 01:23:37.239 --> 01:23:41.960 between two teams that play in small. Markets if The 1727 01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:45.439 Super bowl this year was The steelers and The, packers 1728 01:23:46.039 --> 01:23:50.960 it would not affect viewership a single. Iota and you 1729 01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:53.920 don't hear people, say, well The steelers play In pittsburgh 1730 01:23:53.920 --> 01:23:56.640 and The packers are In Green. Bay yet every time 1731 01:23:56.640 --> 01:23:59.359 there's AN Nba, finals it doesn't feature The lakers or 1732 01:23:59.399 --> 01:24:02.159 The celtic Or i'll say the next even though it's been. 1733 01:24:02.239 --> 01:24:06.000 Years i, mean, hell they almost got there and they 1734 01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:08.000 fired their coach or the heat or The bulls or. 1735 01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:12.439 Whatever every time there's AN Nba finals that feature two 1736 01:24:12.479 --> 01:24:15.880 teams that aren't in big, markets all of the debate 1737 01:24:15.960 --> 01:24:20.439 shows just hammer. It and you, know we've had some 1738 01:24:20.560 --> 01:24:23.640 fun with OUR espn, guests guys like mcminnimon and, McMahon 1739 01:24:23.760 --> 01:24:28.079 those dudes about you, know the fact that they've got 1740 01:24:28.079 --> 01:24:30.119 to spend the next couple of weeks in Either Oklahoma 1741 01:24:30.119 --> 01:24:32.760 city Or. Indianapolis by the, Way indianapolis is a very nice. 1742 01:24:32.800 --> 01:24:35.399 City i've been there several. Times, okay see not so. 1743 01:24:35.520 --> 01:24:39.279 Much but you never hear this discourse when THE nfl 1744 01:24:39.319 --> 01:24:42.319 has A Super bowl with two teams that play in smaller. 1745 01:24:42.359 --> 01:24:45.399 Markets is the answer simply because football is? Football is 1746 01:24:45.439 --> 01:24:46.199 there something deeper? 1747 01:24:46.199 --> 01:24:49.319 There there's a few ways you can cut that, up 1748 01:24:49.359 --> 01:24:54.479 because THE nfl is, different. Right number, one when you 1749 01:24:54.520 --> 01:24:56.920 talk about a small, market Green bay And pittsburgh are 1750 01:24:57.239 --> 01:24:59.439 not huge, markets but those are also like two of 1751 01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:02.479 the most historical team like those that's The lakers And. 1752 01:25:02.479 --> 01:25:06.039 Celtics when you TALK nfl, right when you're talking about historical, 1753 01:25:06.359 --> 01:25:09.960 relevance when you're talking about it's almost flipped where even 1754 01:25:09.960 --> 01:25:12.119 though they're not in huge markets In Green bay and In, 1755 01:25:12.800 --> 01:25:17.399 pittsburgh they kind of flip the script on who's. Notable 1756 01:25:20.199 --> 01:25:22.319 AND i think there's some truth to the fact that 1757 01:25:22.359 --> 01:25:25.920 it is THE. Nfl you, know you play sixteen to 1758 01:25:25.960 --> 01:25:28.279 twenty games every year and you really don't have any 1759 01:25:28.279 --> 01:25:32.039 trouble selling those games on site ON. Tv there's really 1760 01:25:32.039 --> 01:25:36.439 there's nothing that's going to hold you back in that. 1761 01:25:36.479 --> 01:25:41.520 REGARD I i don't, know, MAN i just think that 1762 01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:47.319 there is there's a little bit more paid attention to number. 1763 01:25:47.359 --> 01:25:50.760 One the Super bowl is always on its own, place, 1764 01:25:50.840 --> 01:25:52.640 Right it's always a neutral, Event. 1765 01:25:52.399 --> 01:25:55.560 So that's a, different different. Scenario BUT. 1766 01:25:58.000 --> 01:25:58.279 I don't. 1767 01:25:58.319 --> 01:26:01.359 Know for, me that's that's something THAT i think that 1768 01:26:01.399 --> 01:26:04.520 they you just got to get. Over in the sports, 1769 01:26:04.560 --> 01:26:09.079 world these are all we're talking about small. Markets they're 1770 01:26:09.119 --> 01:26:11.520 still like when you're talking about global. Scale these are, 1771 01:26:11.640 --> 01:26:16.479 huge giant cities that are more than capable of putting 1772 01:26:16.520 --> 01:26:20.960 on an, event putting on a. Showcase and you know 1773 01:26:21.359 --> 01:26:26.000 when THE nba starts to have players that are not 1774 01:26:26.079 --> 01:26:28.319 excited to go to certain cities and not excited to 1775 01:26:28.319 --> 01:26:31.640 play here and there there's media members covering. IT i 1776 01:26:31.640 --> 01:26:34.800 think there's kind of a culture around. Basketball maybe, that 1777 01:26:35.239 --> 01:26:38.399 as you, mentioned is something, deeper because to, me it's 1778 01:26:39.399 --> 01:26:41.159 it doesn't hit the, radar but it does seem to 1779 01:26:41.199 --> 01:26:45.479 be a conversation on basketball spheres really. 1780 01:26:45.520 --> 01:26:48.720 Often and there are the there's a little apples and oranges. 1781 01:26:48.760 --> 01:26:50.880 Here the Super bowl is a one. Off it's a. 1782 01:26:50.960 --> 01:26:55.159 Game it's one, game, right and so these media members 1783 01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:59.039 and by the, way AND i don't mean this disrespectfully 1784 01:26:59.079 --> 01:27:00.439 To Green. 1785 01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:03.039 Bay i've never been To. Lambeau it's on my bucket. 1786 01:27:03.039 --> 01:27:07.800 List don't mean this disrespectfully To pittsburgh Or buffalo or. 1787 01:27:07.840 --> 01:27:14.840 Wherever the conversation might sound different if media, members fans or. 1788 01:27:14.840 --> 01:27:19.319 Whatever and The Super bowl changes, venues and oftentimes the 1789 01:27:19.399 --> 01:27:23.199 venues in the cities are cool cities and destination. Places 1790 01:27:23.800 --> 01:27:26.920 so you're not necessarily going to live In Green bay 1791 01:27:26.960 --> 01:27:29.000 for the next two weeks to Watch Green bay Play. 1792 01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:33.800 Pittsburgh you're not going to live In buffalo respectfully In, 1793 01:27:34.119 --> 01:27:37.319 February january And, february where it is miserable in Western 1794 01:27:37.359 --> 01:27:41.119 New york to watch The bills play. Whoever for the 1795 01:27:41.159 --> 01:27:44.159 course of it really probably does boil down to. 1796 01:27:44.159 --> 01:27:45.800 The Super bowls a one. Off it's one. 1797 01:27:45.840 --> 01:27:50.479 Game it is an event where people that oftentimes don't 1798 01:27:50.520 --> 01:27:54.159 know anything about football or THE nfl go To Super 1799 01:27:54.159 --> 01:27:56.760 bowl parties or have people at their house and you 1800 01:27:56.840 --> 01:27:59.439 have dinner and you play the square, game and you 1801 01:27:59.479 --> 01:28:01.600 have some fun side things going, on and the kids 1802 01:28:01.600 --> 01:28:03.880 are out like it's an event in the way THE 1803 01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:07.560 Nba finals is. Not and if this thing goes seven, 1804 01:28:07.640 --> 01:28:12.079 Games Oklahoma city And indianapolis if it goes seven, games 1805 01:28:12.640 --> 01:28:15.439 media members and. Fans if you're AN nba fan and 1806 01:28:15.479 --> 01:28:18.279 you have the means and the time on your hands 1807 01:28:18.319 --> 01:28:21.000 to go to THE Nba, finals you will exist In 1808 01:28:21.079 --> 01:28:24.039 Oklahoma city In indiana for the better part of two. 1809 01:28:24.079 --> 01:28:24.920 Weeks that's a different. 1810 01:28:24.960 --> 01:28:28.239 Ask so maybe it's as reductive as The Super bowl 1811 01:28:28.319 --> 01:28:31.520 is one, game it's one. Day it's IN la it's In, 1812 01:28:31.720 --> 01:28:34.960 glendale it's In, florida it's wherever In New york one, 1813 01:28:35.039 --> 01:28:36.840 year so you only have to go there for one. 1814 01:28:36.880 --> 01:28:38.479 Day you don't have to go exist in the city 1815 01:28:39.520 --> 01:28:42.119 or in the cities that you don't necessarily necessarily want 1816 01:28:42.119 --> 01:28:43.560 to be in for longer than just a few. 1817 01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:44.880 Hours so there's probably something. 1818 01:28:44.880 --> 01:28:49.359 There and it is interesting when it comes to viewership and. 1819 01:28:49.399 --> 01:28:52.960 Eyeballs nothing adversely affects in THE. 1820 01:28:53.079 --> 01:28:53.439 Nfl. 1821 01:28:53.800 --> 01:28:59.119 Nothing sunday night football is the highest watched television show 1822 01:28:59.399 --> 01:29:04.079 period in The United. States there's not a higher watched, 1823 01:29:04.119 --> 01:29:07.279 show not an award, show not a finale of. 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US e wed is a finals for The 1882 01:32:08.319 --> 01:32:11.039 College Football hall Of fame Former Youth, legend so stay 1883 01:32:11.079 --> 01:32:13.920 tuned for. That but we'll start out the four o'clock 1884 01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:18.000 hour of the program With Andy, Larson Salt Lake. 1885 01:32:18.119 --> 01:32:20.000 Tribune, Andy Happy. Wednesday how are we? 1886 01:32:20.039 --> 01:32:21.920 Doing i'm good, Man how are you? 1887 01:32:22.119 --> 01:32:22.800 Good give me. 1888 01:32:22.720 --> 01:32:27.760 A bucket list destination geographically somewhere in the world that 1889 01:32:27.840 --> 01:32:29.119 you've never been to that you'd like to. 1890 01:32:29.199 --> 01:32:32.159 VISIT i sell them Into italy AND i need to do. 1891 01:32:32.239 --> 01:32:35.319 That and then Like i've been trying to figure out 1892 01:32:35.359 --> 01:32:40.079 like where and how to do A japan Or korea 1893 01:32:40.239 --> 01:32:41.720 or something like that trip. 1894 01:32:41.520 --> 01:32:42.560 Given the language. 1895 01:32:42.600 --> 01:32:45.119 Barrier LIKE i don't know if it's a tour guide 1896 01:32:45.119 --> 01:32:47.920 situation or, what but Probably italy is my nuber one. 1897 01:32:47.960 --> 01:32:51.760 Answer solf can highly Recommend. Tokyo i've decided my next 1898 01:32:51.760 --> 01:32:53.760 stop is going to Be. Australia i've never been To. 1899 01:32:53.760 --> 01:32:54.319 Australia have you? 1900 01:32:54.439 --> 01:32:59.159 BEEN i Have in twenty, nineteen right before the world set, 1901 01:32:59.199 --> 01:33:03.319 DOWN i did as around The world, tour which was. 1902 01:33:03.359 --> 01:33:07.600 Awesome spent two weeks, there bounced around different, cities went 1903 01:33:07.680 --> 01:33:12.319 to The Great Barrier. Reefs it was truly. Awesome you Won't, 1904 01:33:12.479 --> 01:33:13.960 yeah you need to go as through as you. 1905 01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:15.840 Can what's your? Favorite what's your favorite? 1906 01:33:15.920 --> 01:33:20.319 NUT i WAS i was munching on some pistachios. EARLIER 1907 01:33:20.359 --> 01:33:22.760 i feel like pistachios has to be high on anyone's. 1908 01:33:22.800 --> 01:33:24.319 List that's a good. 1909 01:33:24.359 --> 01:33:27.039 Question i've been feeling Like cashew's. 1910 01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:31.520 Right right recently was really really. Good, Nice So i'll 1911 01:33:31.560 --> 01:33:31.760 go with. 1912 01:33:31.800 --> 01:33:33.840 That where do you get your Frid, Rise? Sandy? 1913 01:33:34.960 --> 01:33:36.479 SO i used to get it from this place called 1914 01:33:36.560 --> 01:33:40.800 My tie on thirteenth and Third, west but it just 1915 01:33:40.840 --> 01:33:43.920 closed about a month, ago So i'm kind of on 1916 01:33:43.960 --> 01:33:47.279 the lookout for new. Spots you, know that place was 1917 01:33:47.359 --> 01:33:49.520 right by the jazz practice, facility so it's, perfect you, 1918 01:33:49.520 --> 01:33:52.119 know after, practice go and get Some Frida rice and 1919 01:33:52.159 --> 01:33:55.359 it was. Awesome and they the owner retired after seventeen 1920 01:33:55.439 --> 01:33:58.640 years just you, know she was time and so, YEAH 1921 01:33:58.640 --> 01:34:00.239 i got to, Say i'm certain if you haven't good, 1922 01:34:00.239 --> 01:34:00.760 ideas let. 1923 01:34:00.680 --> 01:34:02.680 Me, know watching ANY tv shows these? 1924 01:34:02.720 --> 01:34:05.600 Days, Andy, OH i don't think. 1925 01:34:05.640 --> 01:34:11.000 So i'm watching the. Sports i'm, sorry it's it's important. 1926 01:34:11.039 --> 01:34:12.159 Sports then you dating? 1927 01:34:12.199 --> 01:34:14.640 Anyone uh, no. 1928 01:34:17.239 --> 01:34:17.359 All? 1929 01:34:17.439 --> 01:34:17.600 Right? 1930 01:34:17.680 --> 01:34:22.760 Movie oh, yeah you gotta be. Careful you gotta be, Careful. 1931 01:34:22.800 --> 01:34:25.520 Andy all, right we can move. ON i, mean kind 1932 01:34:25.520 --> 01:34:28.119 of a weird mood on A. Wednesday several reasons, why 1933 01:34:28.199 --> 01:34:29.039 but let's move. 1934 01:34:29.079 --> 01:34:29.600 On all. 1935 01:34:29.680 --> 01:34:32.920 Right let me ask you. This did you catch wind 1936 01:34:33.039 --> 01:34:36.119 of This Austin ange? Situation did you know this was 1937 01:34:36.319 --> 01:34:38.159 in the pipeline or did it catch you off guard 1938 01:34:38.199 --> 01:34:40.520 the way that it seems to have got everybody off? 1939 01:34:40.560 --> 01:34:43.159 Guard, YEAH i, mean, yeah it caught me off. GUARD 1940 01:34:43.239 --> 01:34:43.560 i did not. 1941 01:34:43.680 --> 01:34:45.319 KNOW i knew that there were changes in the front, 1942 01:34:45.319 --> 01:34:47.840 office AND i knew that and we reported some of, them, 1943 01:34:47.920 --> 01:34:51.399 right like The Carlos boozer. Thing there are a couple 1944 01:34:51.479 --> 01:34:54.520 of Other jazz staffers who are no longer going to 1945 01:34:54.560 --> 01:34:58.399 be with the team moving, forward and now in the 1946 01:34:58.439 --> 01:35:01.359 wake Of Austin ange being, hired looking like maybe there 1947 01:35:01.359 --> 01:35:03.800 could be more. CHANGES i, truly you, KNOW i don't 1948 01:35:03.800 --> 01:35:06.680 want to say anything without having that confirmed for multiple, 1949 01:35:06.720 --> 01:35:10.439 sources because obviously this is people's. Livelihoods BUT i knew 1950 01:35:10.479 --> 01:35:12.600 that there were changes being. MADE i thought they were 1951 01:35:12.600 --> 01:35:16.399 happening at lower, levels, Right LIKE i thought essentially the 1952 01:35:17.560 --> 01:35:23.039 team was upset with kind of their scouting and player player, 1953 01:35:23.079 --> 01:35:28.279 development not player development player scouting, setup so that you, 1954 01:35:28.279 --> 01:35:31.520 know they made SOME i think some kind of weird 1955 01:35:31.600 --> 01:35:33.800 draft choices of the last couple of. Years they haven't 1956 01:35:33.840 --> 01:35:38.000 really identified that star and so just talent RECOGNITION i 1957 01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:40.319 think was kind of lacking Since Dennis lindsay was let, 1958 01:35:40.399 --> 01:35:44.680 go and SO i do think there was room to hire. 1959 01:35:44.800 --> 01:35:48.520 Someone But i'm surprised that it was at the president 1960 01:35:48.560 --> 01:35:51.920 of basketball operations. Level i'm Surprised Austin angel is the 1961 01:35:51.960 --> 01:35:54.520 number one. Guy and, YEAH i had no idea that 1962 01:35:54.560 --> 01:35:56.720 it was going to be often moving moving over. 1963 01:35:56.720 --> 01:36:00.000 Here what other changes AND i may have missed. 1964 01:36:00.119 --> 01:36:03.119 Something so for our, Listeners Carlos boozer has been added 1965 01:36:03.119 --> 01:36:06.079 to the staff as a. Scout AND i know you 1966 01:36:06.119 --> 01:36:09.399 said you did not want to pontificate on, possibilities AND 1967 01:36:09.439 --> 01:36:12.439 i respect that because people's jobs are important to. Them 1968 01:36:12.439 --> 01:36:15.520 but what other changes are you alluding to THAT i 1969 01:36:15.680 --> 01:36:16.279 may have missed? 1970 01:36:17.479 --> 01:36:21.399 Changes so, Again i'm trying to not use names here 1971 01:36:21.439 --> 01:36:24.319 and until it's, announced until they find new jobs and 1972 01:36:24.319 --> 01:36:26.479 stuff like. That but, yeah it seems like in the 1973 01:36:26.880 --> 01:36:31.119 fourth or fifth level of the organization maybe names that 1974 01:36:31.119 --> 01:36:34.920 aren't familiar to fans but are names more familiar TO 1975 01:36:35.600 --> 01:36:39.159 jevb writers and you, know obviously people my people in 1976 01:36:39.199 --> 01:36:40.439 the day to day workings of THE. 1977 01:36:40.880 --> 01:36:42.720 Orc all, right ten ten? 1978 01:36:42.800 --> 01:36:45.119 Four how do you THINK I i asked a couple 1979 01:36:45.159 --> 01:36:47.039 of guests, this And i'll preface. 1980 01:36:46.640 --> 01:36:48.439 It with you the same WAY i have with. 1981 01:36:48.479 --> 01:36:53.239 Them there are THIRTY nba general manager jobs and if 1982 01:36:53.239 --> 01:36:55.760 you have, one you are very happy to have one 1983 01:36:56.600 --> 01:37:00.520 despite these circumstances around. You And Justin zander is coming 1984 01:37:00.560 --> 01:37:03.920 off a very trying year where he had some serious health, 1985 01:37:03.960 --> 01:37:06.840 complications and you, Know i've seen him a couple of 1986 01:37:06.840 --> 01:37:09.439 times since and seeing him interviewed since seems like he's doing. 1987 01:37:09.439 --> 01:37:13.800 Well So i'm not implying anything at all with the, 1988 01:37:13.880 --> 01:37:16.359 question nor AM i leading the. WITNESS i am wondering 1989 01:37:17.560 --> 01:37:20.680 what you believe to be Jay z's reaction to kind 1990 01:37:20.720 --> 01:37:24.560 of the changes around him in his place in this new, ecosystem. 1991 01:37:25.000 --> 01:37:27.680 Look publicly and privately from all. 1992 01:37:29.039 --> 01:37:31.039 All reports That i've heard about, THIS i haven't talked 1993 01:37:31.079 --> 01:37:32.159 to JAY z about, it but like. 1994 01:37:33.720 --> 01:37:36.159 Is that he is taking this positively right like he, 1995 01:37:36.279 --> 01:37:40.640 is you, know saying all the right. Things he, is you, know. 1996 01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:43.760 Saying, hey, look you know That austin will be added 1997 01:37:43.840 --> 01:37:47.039 it to our, department and you know what's best for 1998 01:37:47.079 --> 01:37:48.560 The jazz is what's best for, me and all that 1999 01:37:48.600 --> 01:37:52.520 kind of good. STUFF i also know how general managers, 2000 01:37:52.560 --> 01:37:54.800 think AND i know how executives, think AND i know 2001 01:37:55.239 --> 01:37:59.000 how does people. Think and the truth, is if you 2002 01:37:59.079 --> 01:38:02.680 were general manager a, team you if they go to 2003 01:38:02.760 --> 01:38:06.640 somebody else to hire the president of basketball, operations and 2004 01:38:06.720 --> 01:38:10.119 not only just another teams general, manager but another team's 2005 01:38:10.159 --> 01:38:13.279 assistant general, manager a person lower on the totem pole 2006 01:38:13.359 --> 01:38:16.000 than you, are then you probably don't feel great about. 2007 01:38:16.039 --> 01:38:18.640 It and it is probably the kind of thing that 2008 01:38:18.680 --> 01:38:20.560 makes you want to look. Around, now look Like justin 2009 01:38:20.560 --> 01:38:23.039 has a, contract and you, KNOW i think is well 2010 01:38:23.079 --> 01:38:25.479 respected AND i think does have a lot to add 2011 01:38:25.520 --> 01:38:27.840 to this. Organization BUT i did think it was interesting 2012 01:38:27.920 --> 01:38:30.880 That Ryan smith made it extremely clear who was in 2013 01:38:31.000 --> 01:38:33.640 charge when he did not do that in The Danny aingecrest. 2014 01:38:33.640 --> 01:38:35.840 Conference AND i. 2015 01:38:35.920 --> 01:38:38.520 Think it was interesting that he drew such a dividing 2016 01:38:38.560 --> 01:38:42.039 line Between austening just skills And Justin vennox, skills where you, 2017 01:38:42.079 --> 01:38:45.560 know he, said, hey, Look justin's you, know came up 2018 01:38:45.560 --> 01:38:47.560 through the agency, space and as good as that is 2019 01:38:47.960 --> 01:38:50.279 good at dealing with players and that sort of, Thing 2020 01:38:50.399 --> 01:38:53.960 whereas they feel That austin came up through the scouting and, 2021 01:38:54.000 --> 01:38:58.199 coaching it has that experience and so we'll be able 2022 01:38:58.199 --> 01:39:02.199 to add kind of those, again, players valuation and talent 2023 01:39:02.279 --> 01:39:06.640 and scout talent scouting to the. Organization and kind of 2024 01:39:06.680 --> 01:39:09.800 the implicit statement there is they don't feel Like justin 2025 01:39:09.880 --> 01:39:12.600 has done a great job of. That, now, look you, 2026 01:39:12.640 --> 01:39:15.119 Know justin hasn't been totally in charge over the last three. 2027 01:39:15.159 --> 01:39:18.199 Years it's Been Danny ainge, too and Mostly Danny. Inge 2028 01:39:19.119 --> 01:39:21.000 there was a period of time Where justin was the 2029 01:39:21.119 --> 01:39:23.680 number one guy after they've Fired Dennis lindsay and you 2030 01:39:23.800 --> 01:39:25.840 ended up with The Rudy gay, summer, Right so it 2031 01:39:25.960 --> 01:39:29.399 wasn't like a unadulterated. Success BUT i do think you, 2032 01:39:29.439 --> 01:39:32.359 Know justin sent some good things as well and made 2033 01:39:32.439 --> 01:39:35.359 them smart. MOVES i think fIF year's trade, deadline, frankly 2034 01:39:35.479 --> 01:39:38.119 was really well, handled and so you want that kind 2035 01:39:38.159 --> 01:39:40.479 of guy. Around it's just whether or not he wants 2036 01:39:40.520 --> 01:39:43.000 to be, around AND i think, that's you, know still 2037 01:39:43.079 --> 01:39:46.479 kind of an open. Question if he can get another 2038 01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:49.199 better job from ANOTHER nba, team it wouldn't be super 2039 01:39:49.239 --> 01:39:51.039 surprising to see him take it so. 2040 01:39:51.119 --> 01:39:53.880 Andy as a nineteen year, old between my freshman and 2041 01:39:53.920 --> 01:39:55.960 sophomore year at The university of You tai did an 2042 01:39:56.000 --> 01:39:57.760 internship At Madison Square. 2043 01:39:57.520 --> 01:40:00.359 Garden WHERE i had a connection, loosely. 2044 01:40:01.560 --> 01:40:05.399 And my internship that summer was in the customer relations, 2045 01:40:05.439 --> 01:40:08.039 department where my job was to answer phone calls from 2046 01:40:08.079 --> 01:40:10.800 Angry New yorkers that didn't Enjoy Billy joel the night 2047 01:40:10.840 --> 01:40:11.279 before or. 2048 01:40:11.319 --> 01:40:14.279 Whatever it was very, interesting AND. 2049 01:40:14.239 --> 01:40:17.479 I worked in a department of people and a lot 2050 01:40:17.520 --> 01:40:20.600 of them were almost nervous to have me around and 2051 01:40:20.760 --> 01:40:22.000 didn't really like to talk to. 2052 01:40:22.039 --> 01:40:22.279 Me very. 2053 01:40:22.359 --> 01:40:24.399 MUCH i really had one. Friend his name Was Dave. 2054 01:40:24.399 --> 01:40:28.000 Snowden ironically, enough he's still. There he founded The wheelchair 2055 01:40:28.039 --> 01:40:30.880 next and he's the sweetest. Guy and went to dinner one, 2056 01:40:30.960 --> 01:40:33.359 night And i'm, like, dude why don't these people just 2057 01:40:33.399 --> 01:40:35.560 feel like they. Can i'm a normal. Person you can 2058 01:40:35.600 --> 01:40:37.960 come talk to me And i'll talk to. You and 2059 01:40:38.199 --> 01:40:40.000 he'd laid a line on me at the age of 2060 01:40:40.079 --> 01:40:42.479 nineteen THAT i still talk about and think about to this. 2061 01:40:42.560 --> 01:40:45.359 Day and he, Said, spence it's important that at this 2062 01:40:45.399 --> 01:40:47.840 point in your life you understand one very simple, truth 2063 01:40:47.840 --> 01:40:50.399 and that is nobody cheers for the son of a famous. 2064 01:40:50.399 --> 01:40:52.880 Father so thank. You, okay there you. 2065 01:40:52.920 --> 01:40:56.079 Go so we move into this space WHERE i feel 2066 01:40:56.119 --> 01:40:58.600 like it's easy to have a conversation where two things 2067 01:40:58.640 --> 01:41:02.279 can be. True That austin benefited greatly from his last 2068 01:41:02.399 --> 01:41:06.640 name and who his father, was And austin has put 2069 01:41:06.680 --> 01:41:09.760 in the groundwork and as the resume to qualify himself 2070 01:41:09.800 --> 01:41:11.960 for a hire such as, this is that fair to? 2071 01:41:12.000 --> 01:41:12.239 Say? 2072 01:41:13.399 --> 01:41:14.439 Yeah he, LOOKED i think. 2073 01:41:14.439 --> 01:41:14.920 SO i. 2074 01:41:15.520 --> 01:41:18.920 Think you, know if you look at another team and 2075 01:41:18.960 --> 01:41:21.000 they higher off, nnge it's a little bit of a 2076 01:41:21.039 --> 01:41:23.840 stretch because he's an ASSISTANT, gm not A, gm, right, 2077 01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:27.720 like but given The celtics success over the last, decade, 2078 01:41:27.800 --> 01:41:32.039 like it does make, sense, Right and so that's the 2079 01:41:32.159 --> 01:41:34.039 thing that The jazz can stand on on this is 2080 01:41:34.039 --> 01:41:37.600 that look, like, hey it's you, know he does have 2081 01:41:38.079 --> 01:41:39.800 he is well, respected he does have a ton of. 2082 01:41:39.840 --> 01:41:42.359 Success and it's hard to, know you know, exactly you, 2083 01:41:42.399 --> 01:41:45.760 know who Drafted Jason tatum instead Of Markel, foltz and 2084 01:41:45.800 --> 01:41:48.600 who Drafted Jalen brown and who you, know but like 2085 01:41:48.960 --> 01:41:51.960 Clearly austin was at least a round during those times 2086 01:41:52.039 --> 01:41:55.800 and helped make good. Choices so you, know it's hard to, say, like, 2087 01:41:55.880 --> 01:41:58.960 hey this is a. Catastrophe BUT i do think you, 2088 01:41:58.960 --> 01:42:02.640 know like this is kind of a nepotism, thing is you, 2089 01:42:02.680 --> 01:42:06.279 know maybe it prevents you from opening up the job 2090 01:42:06.399 --> 01:42:09.600 to other. Names AND i think that's WHERE i think 2091 01:42:09.640 --> 01:42:12.199 you can have some real criticism for The. Jazz is, 2092 01:42:12.239 --> 01:42:15.920 like if you are trying to compete in a thirty TEAM, 2093 01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:20.039 mba you want to know as much about your competition as, 2094 01:42:20.079 --> 01:42:22.680 possible and one of the easiest ways to do that 2095 01:42:22.920 --> 01:42:25.960 is by having a round of significant and serious interviews 2096 01:42:26.199 --> 01:42:29.079 for A president Of Basketball OPERATION, slot, right like learn 2097 01:42:29.119 --> 01:42:31.279 how these guys, think learn what they would do with your, 2098 01:42:31.399 --> 01:42:36.239 roster get some free, consulting frankly, right and for them 2099 01:42:36.319 --> 01:42:39.960 to kind of have bypass that in order to, hire you, 2100 01:42:40.000 --> 01:42:43.199 know the son of THE ceo and the guy who's 2101 01:42:43.319 --> 01:42:48.399 friends with the. Owner, like, look it, is it's, sketchy 2102 01:42:48.479 --> 01:42:50.560 it's it's not. Great it's a really bad. Look AND 2103 01:42:50.600 --> 01:42:53.079 i think the rest of THE nba was talking all 2104 01:42:53.119 --> 01:42:56.119 about it this. Week SO i think that's WHERE i 2105 01:42:56.119 --> 01:42:58.760 think you can have significant. Criticism is, like, look if 2106 01:42:58.800 --> 01:43:01.239 you do it an overall search of the whole market and, say, 2107 01:43:01.279 --> 01:43:04.319 Hey Austin ange is the best. Guy, cool but you 2108 01:43:04.399 --> 01:43:08.079 should really have again serious and significant interviews with other 2109 01:43:08.119 --> 01:43:10.439 candidates in order to make that in order to make that, 2110 01:43:10.520 --> 01:43:14.319 determination rather than, Well danny Thinks Atin age is. Great 2111 01:43:15.199 --> 01:43:17.680 Ryan smith Says Austin age is. Great Will hardy Says 2112 01:43:17.680 --> 01:43:20.199 Austin ange is. Great it's, like, well you, know, yes for, 2113 01:43:20.319 --> 01:43:24.000 Sure LIKE i think the reality is probably The Atome 2114 01:43:24.039 --> 01:43:27.239 ange is. Great and yet also there are a gazillion 2115 01:43:27.319 --> 01:43:31.079 other very smart men and, WOMEN i, guess covering and 2116 01:43:31.199 --> 01:43:33.920 LEADING nba franchises right now that you also could have 2117 01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:36.439 talked to for this. Role and chose not. To AND 2118 01:43:36.479 --> 01:43:39.640 i think that's the disappointing part of. IT i think 2119 01:43:40.119 --> 01:43:41.640 from a jazz, perspective. 2120 01:43:41.399 --> 01:43:43.039 Did it feel like to? 2121 01:43:43.159 --> 01:43:47.359 You AND i guess i'll use a gen z, saying 2122 01:43:47.720 --> 01:43:50.720 as the kids would, say doing too much or extra or. 2123 01:43:50.760 --> 01:43:54.760 Whatever did it feel like to you in the statements 2124 01:43:54.800 --> 01:43:59.560 that were released and the comments mainly By ryan that 2125 01:43:59.640 --> 01:44:05.199 they just overcooked the qualifications That austin, has that they 2126 01:44:05.279 --> 01:44:08.560 just overcooked the whole like without really saying the quiet 2127 01:44:08.560 --> 01:44:11.439 part out, loud Like danny wasn't even, quoted and it 2128 01:44:11.479 --> 01:44:13.720 was never even acknowledging any of the. Statements did it 2129 01:44:13.760 --> 01:44:16.439 feel like to you that they were making a little 2130 01:44:16.439 --> 01:44:19.000 bit too much of an, effort being a little extra 2131 01:44:19.279 --> 01:44:21.920 when it came to just pointing out all of the 2132 01:44:21.960 --> 01:44:24.359 Things austin has done in the? Statements and were you 2133 01:44:24.399 --> 01:44:27.079 surprised That danny was not quoted nor was he available 2134 01:44:27.079 --> 01:44:27.600 at the media? 2135 01:44:28.159 --> 01:44:28.880 Availability? 2136 01:44:30.039 --> 01:44:32.199 No AND i, MEAN i GUESS i don't think they're 2137 01:44:32.199 --> 01:44:35.039 doing like you kind of have to if you're if 2138 01:44:35.079 --> 01:44:36.680 you are The Pierre department of The jazz and you're 2139 01:44:36.680 --> 01:44:39.399 put in this position right like that's the thing you 2140 01:44:39.399 --> 01:44:40.800 have to. Do you have to Say, hey you, know 2141 01:44:40.880 --> 01:44:41.640 this Is. 2142 01:44:41.640 --> 01:44:44.359 Danny ings hiring his. Son it's, like look at all 2143 01:44:44.439 --> 01:44:45.239 the things off the names of. 2144 01:44:45.279 --> 01:44:46.960 Son you have to give the fans the reason to, 2145 01:44:46.960 --> 01:44:48.960 believe because if you do, that the fans are gonna 2146 01:44:48.960 --> 01:44:52.159 believe because they're. FANS i. 2147 01:44:52.239 --> 01:44:54.840 DID i was skeptical with. 2148 01:44:54.920 --> 01:44:59.239 The idea That ryan just Told danny Called danny up 2149 01:44:59.239 --> 01:45:01.039 One dan said HE i want to hire your son 2150 01:45:01.079 --> 01:45:02.800 to be president of basketball, operations, right you, KNOW i 2151 01:45:02.800 --> 01:45:05.880 Think bryan And danny talk more often than that for 2152 01:45:06.000 --> 01:45:07.880 it to have just been, like, hey. 2153 01:45:07.920 --> 01:45:10.439 Got some bad or weird news That i'm hiring your, kid. 2154 01:45:10.479 --> 01:45:14.079 You, Know LIKE I i just am skeptical that that's 2155 01:45:14.079 --> 01:45:18.600 how that went. Down but, yeah, LOOK i, mean if 2156 01:45:18.640 --> 01:45:21.399 you are if you're trying to spend as any if 2157 01:45:21.439 --> 01:45:23.239 you are at all, professional you're trying to spend it 2158 01:45:23.279 --> 01:45:25.840 at least a little, bit and the only way to 2159 01:45:25.840 --> 01:45:28.520 spend it is by saying That austen is, qualified you. 2160 01:45:28.560 --> 01:45:31.159 Know but you know in terms of he is going 2161 01:45:31.199 --> 01:45:34.079 to be a relatively young general manager OR i guess 2162 01:45:34.239 --> 01:45:40.279 relatively young professional president of basketball, operations and you, know 2163 01:45:40.439 --> 01:45:42.800 like while he does have fourteen years of experience in 2164 01:45:42.800 --> 01:45:47.039 The Boston celtics organization or whatever it, is. Seventeen, like you, 2165 01:45:47.079 --> 01:45:49.359 know it's not all that has been as assistant general. 2166 01:45:49.359 --> 01:45:51.319 Manager it's also been at like the scouting level and 2167 01:45:51.359 --> 01:45:54.119 stuff like. That, Right, like so, again it's a reasonable 2168 01:45:54.520 --> 01:45:57.760 resume and a relatively good, one especially given how good 2169 01:45:57.760 --> 01:46:00.600 The celtics has. Been but that's what you had to. 2170 01:46:00.600 --> 01:46:02.239 Do if you're The. Jazz you can't just, say, well 2171 01:46:02.279 --> 01:46:04.880 there's A Danny angels kid and and try to spend 2172 01:46:04.880 --> 01:46:05.039 it that. 2173 01:46:05.159 --> 01:46:10.239 Way skeptical That ryan didn't talk to there's no shot 2174 01:46:10.319 --> 01:46:13.359 in hell are you? Kidding that was the most insulting 2175 01:46:13.439 --> 01:46:17.199 part of the entire, Scenario, like, Hey danny's been completely 2176 01:46:17.279 --> 01:46:19.399 kept out of The he had no IDEA i was doing. 2177 01:46:19.399 --> 01:46:21.760 THIS i just told him like, dude, like what do you, Mean, 2178 01:46:21.800 --> 01:46:25.119 Andy there's no chance that was the. Case almost insulting 2179 01:46:25.239 --> 01:46:25.960 that that was said out. 2180 01:46:26.000 --> 01:46:30.920 Loud, yeah, LOOK i Mean ryan likes to tell a 2181 01:46:31.000 --> 01:46:33.920 yarn that's probably not super based in. 2182 01:46:33.960 --> 01:46:36.119 Reality Sometimes i've. 2183 01:46:36.000 --> 01:46:37.119 Done it at press conferences. 2184 01:46:37.159 --> 01:46:39.840 BEFORE i, mean even Katz to copied like the Old 2185 01:46:39.840 --> 01:46:44.279 Greg miller gas station, story, right, LIKE i am you 2186 01:46:44.319 --> 01:46:45.680 know that's That's Ryan. 2187 01:46:45.680 --> 01:46:49.640 Smith yes it, Is, yes it is and you, KNOW 2188 01:46:49.720 --> 01:46:52.119 i guess if it's working for, you just keep rolling with. 2189 01:46:52.159 --> 01:46:52.960 It but, yeah there's no. 2190 01:46:53.079 --> 01:46:55.479 Shot but when it comes to The danny angle, Here 2191 01:46:56.520 --> 01:47:03.760 i've always been skeptical personally of really just how for 2192 01:47:03.880 --> 01:47:07.720 lack of a better, term invested in the day to 2193 01:47:07.800 --> 01:47:10.479 day process That danny is with the entire. Thing, NOW 2194 01:47:10.520 --> 01:47:13.640 i want to be very, Fair danny retired when he 2195 01:47:13.720 --> 01:47:16.560 left The. Celtics he. Retired he didn't move out here 2196 01:47:17.239 --> 01:47:19.680 to work for The. Jazz, okay that wasn't the reason 2197 01:47:19.680 --> 01:47:21.600 he moved To. Utah he moved To utah to be 2198 01:47:21.640 --> 01:47:25.279 around his. Family And i've never believed, now, look he's 2199 01:47:25.279 --> 01:47:27.199 at the. GAMES i see him at, GAMES i see 2200 01:47:27.239 --> 01:47:30.720 him at. Events i'm not saying he's never. There but 2201 01:47:31.239 --> 01:47:34.439 you reference kind of the original ambiguity When danny was 2202 01:47:34.479 --> 01:47:37.840 hired in the messaging From jazz ownership about Like i've 2203 01:47:37.840 --> 01:47:41.079 always drawn the parallel between The Jim, Halpert Michael scott 2204 01:47:41.119 --> 01:47:42.960 off his, stuff big picture of day to day and 2205 01:47:43.079 --> 01:47:44.840 was kind of, like who's doing what all? Right and 2206 01:47:44.840 --> 01:47:47.199 it's kind of get you, know does this to you 2207 01:47:47.319 --> 01:47:49.680 indicate That danny might even be a little bit further 2208 01:47:50.039 --> 01:47:54.319 removed in valuing his riverside tea times and hanging out 2209 01:47:54.319 --> 01:47:56.960 with his. Grandkids now That austin is in place and 2210 01:47:57.000 --> 01:47:58.239 will be in place for a, while do you Think 2211 01:47:58.319 --> 01:47:59.960 danny's going to be even a little bit further removed 2212 01:48:00.039 --> 01:48:00.239 from the. 2213 01:48:00.239 --> 01:48:03.600 Scenario i'll say, this like over the last couple of, 2214 01:48:03.640 --> 01:48:07.960 years If danny was truly, removed like he was way 2215 01:48:07.960 --> 01:48:10.159 more involved THAN i thought he would be from that press, 2216 01:48:10.159 --> 01:48:13.720 conference right like he was at random stars games THAT 2217 01:48:13.800 --> 01:48:16.039 i was at that you, know THE G League College City, 2218 01:48:16.079 --> 01:48:18.520 stars but he had no reason to be at, whatsoever, 2219 01:48:18.720 --> 01:48:23.840 Right like you can successfully delegate the tense man role 2220 01:48:23.920 --> 01:48:26.680 on The Coalege City stars and feel pretty good about 2221 01:48:26.720 --> 01:48:28.720 it if You're Danny, inge and he, didn't like he 2222 01:48:29.279 --> 01:48:32.560 was involved in that kind of weird stuff like and 2223 01:48:32.600 --> 01:48:35.399 so and was involved like was that morning shoot arounds 2224 01:48:35.399 --> 01:48:39.079 again for games that did not matter and just was 2225 01:48:39.079 --> 01:48:43.279 was around again more than it did scouting trips to 2226 01:48:43.640 --> 01:48:45.840 the middle of the country on the for. Players you 2227 01:48:45.880 --> 01:48:48.840 wouldn't think That Danny ainge if he were truly you, 2228 01:48:48.840 --> 01:48:52.119 know like just doing the golf tea time thing that 2229 01:48:52.600 --> 01:48:54.039 he would have been involved. IN i think he. Was 2230 01:48:54.439 --> 01:48:57.439 that being, SAID i also had that same thought that you, 2231 01:48:57.479 --> 01:49:00.399 did like, That, hey maybe this is a way to 2232 01:49:00.479 --> 01:49:02.840 Get danny to where he wants to, be where he 2233 01:49:02.840 --> 01:49:07.119 feels comfortable golfing more and being with his grandkids more 2234 01:49:07.159 --> 01:49:07.720 and all. 2235 01:49:07.640 --> 01:49:07.920 That kind of. 2236 01:49:07.960 --> 01:49:11.640 STUFF i could absolutely. See, hey that's why the jazz 2237 01:49:11.680 --> 01:49:15.600 decided to add another the louder voice of the. Room 2238 01:49:15.600 --> 01:49:17.600 and of course you can Get danny on board by 2239 01:49:17.600 --> 01:49:21.880 making It. Austin, so you, KNOW i think that's it's 2240 01:49:21.960 --> 01:49:23.960 very plausible that that's what. Happened but we'll see over 2241 01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:25.520 the next course a couple of. Years you, know LIKE 2242 01:49:25.560 --> 01:49:28.359 i was surprised at how involved he was, before now 2243 01:49:28.600 --> 01:49:30.880 it could be surprised, again all. 2244 01:49:30.840 --> 01:49:34.159 Right in the spirit of listening to what these people 2245 01:49:34.319 --> 01:49:37.319 say and then trying to understand what actually is. Real 2246 01:49:37.600 --> 01:49:40.199 let's move over to the response That austin gave to 2247 01:49:40.239 --> 01:49:43.680 the question that our very Own SEAN i'llcdda asked about 2248 01:49:43.680 --> 01:49:48.159 his personal philosophy on tanking and manipulating, lineups to Which austin, 2249 01:49:48.199 --> 01:49:51.279 responded you will not see that this. Year austin went 2250 01:49:51.399 --> 01:49:54.479 on our Guy John paul's, PODCAST i would encourage people 2251 01:49:54.520 --> 01:49:58.439 to go check Out Roundball roundup and expanded on the 2252 01:49:58.520 --> 01:50:02.640 Answer so, Look, andy we know the deal. Here it's 2253 01:50:02.680 --> 01:50:05.399 a top eight protected pick that goes To Oklahoma, city 2254 01:50:05.680 --> 01:50:08.239 who most likely is about to win A world, championship 2255 01:50:08.239 --> 01:50:10.720 and then over the next week or, so AND i 2256 01:50:10.760 --> 01:50:14.479 would view it as an epic failure if that pick 2257 01:50:14.560 --> 01:50:17.640 had to be conveyed TO. Okc if The jazz win 2258 01:50:17.760 --> 01:50:20.600 thirty four to thirty five games and end up drafting 2259 01:50:20.720 --> 01:50:22.840 ninth in the lottery and that goes To Oklahoma, CITY 2260 01:50:23.199 --> 01:50:26.399 i view holding on to that asset as important as 2261 01:50:26.439 --> 01:50:29.720 anything else this. Year so if we Take austin at 2262 01:50:29.760 --> 01:50:32.439 his word that they will approach this season with more 2263 01:50:32.439 --> 01:50:35.520 integrity than they did in years past and front facing 2264 01:50:35.560 --> 01:50:40.439 about injuries and availability and not wait to get fined 2265 01:50:40.520 --> 01:50:42.880 and then Have walker shoot seven threes a game and 2266 01:50:42.920 --> 01:50:46.159 we actually see a serious basketball team this. Year can 2267 01:50:46.199 --> 01:50:50.000 they do that while also maintaining the spot they need 2268 01:50:50.039 --> 01:50:51.479 to maintain to hold onto their draft. 2269 01:50:51.479 --> 01:50:56.520 Capital it becomes, really really, hard even if you trade the, Veterans, 2270 01:50:56.720 --> 01:51:02.159 like that's the tricky spot for. Me so you, know 2271 01:51:02.560 --> 01:51:04.720 you can trade lowerry, marketing you could probably trade Toll in, 2272 01:51:04.800 --> 01:51:07.199 zests and you can probably Trade John. COLLINS i don't 2273 01:51:07.239 --> 01:51:09.760 think you can Trade Jordan, clarkson unless it's packaged in 2274 01:51:09.840 --> 01:51:13.399 a deal where you're giving up. VALUES i don't think 2275 01:51:13.399 --> 01:51:14.920 they're going to get a lot for those, guys BUT 2276 01:51:14.960 --> 01:51:17.359 i think you can move them if you'd. Like but 2277 01:51:17.560 --> 01:51:19.920 how whoever you get back is at least going to 2278 01:51:20.000 --> 01:51:22.399 have salaries and at least it's going to be on the, 2279 01:51:22.479 --> 01:51:25.079 roster and you, know like you'll have to play those guys. 2280 01:51:25.079 --> 01:51:26.399 Too you can't get you know. 2281 01:51:26.560 --> 01:51:30.319 What's got a combined eighty million dollars in money off 2282 01:51:30.359 --> 01:51:33.880 your books without taking some veteran contract. Back who, then, 2283 01:51:34.079 --> 01:51:36.119 yes under kind of the often names we won't tank, 2284 01:51:36.520 --> 01:51:39.720 rule that you would have to. Play and if you 2285 01:51:39.840 --> 01:51:42.960 look at the bottom eight of last Year's Draft pree, 2286 01:51:43.079 --> 01:51:47.359 lottery all of those teams tanked to some. Degree none 2287 01:51:47.680 --> 01:51:51.119 were as you know extreme as The, jazz but Like 2288 01:51:51.640 --> 01:51:53.439 washington definitely thinks at the end of the Year New 2289 01:51:53.560 --> 01:51:56.239 orleans Did brooklyn tank from the beginning of the, year 2290 01:51:56.279 --> 01:51:58.399 Trading Dennis ruder a year in. 2291 01:51:58.079 --> 01:51:58.800 A month into the. 2292 01:51:58.840 --> 01:52:02.880 Season you, know let's, See philadelphia definitely thanks at the 2293 01:52:02.960 --> 01:52:05.159 end of the. Year The spurs even tanked Once Webben 2294 01:52:05.239 --> 01:52:09.520 yama got. Hurt like everyone actually was tanking. 2295 01:52:09.199 --> 01:52:09.680 By the end of the. 2296 01:52:09.760 --> 01:52:13.760 Year SO i find it difficult to imagine that the 2297 01:52:13.880 --> 01:52:17.760 Jazz i won't have to do that to some degree 2298 01:52:17.800 --> 01:52:19.920 In march And april in order to stay quote unquote 2299 01:52:19.920 --> 01:52:23.199 competitive or really anti. Competitive, Right, like there's a real 2300 01:52:23.279 --> 01:52:25.520 chance that if they try their hardest in all eighty 2301 01:52:25.520 --> 01:52:28.079 two games next, year that they end up, with, yeah 2302 01:52:28.119 --> 01:52:31.159 that ninth pick and then you just give it away. 2303 01:52:30.960 --> 01:52:31.760 To The Olahoma City. 2304 01:52:31.760 --> 01:52:32.279 Thunder SO. 2305 01:52:33.760 --> 01:52:36.199 I think you have to be really careful about how 2306 01:52:36.199 --> 01:52:40.119 that plays, out and you, know and then if you 2307 01:52:40.319 --> 01:52:42.880 do keep one Of lowry Or Collin sexton Or John, 2308 01:52:42.920 --> 01:52:45.159 collins then all of a sudden you add more wins 2309 01:52:45.199 --> 01:52:47.720 and get even closer to that. Line so it's a 2310 01:52:47.760 --> 01:52:50.680 really fine line that they're kind of dropt to. Get 2311 01:52:50.720 --> 01:52:54.119 AND i think ultimately what's gonna end up happening is you, say, hey, 2312 01:52:54.479 --> 01:52:55.960 no we're not going to tank it all this, year 2313 01:52:55.960 --> 01:52:57.720 and then you, know you end up just tanking In, March, 2314 01:52:57.840 --> 01:52:59.119 rapril or maybe somebody gets. 2315 01:52:58.960 --> 01:53:00.439 Hurt and you get a little bit luck that. 2316 01:53:00.479 --> 01:53:03.000 Way but from WHAT i, hear it is much more 2317 01:53:03.079 --> 01:53:05.520 likely that the jazz are bad next year and kind 2318 01:53:05.560 --> 01:53:07.720 of embrace that from just a player talent point of 2319 01:53:07.800 --> 01:53:11.039 view than that they like try to be good and 2320 01:53:11.079 --> 01:53:12.680 trade for three stars or something like. 2321 01:53:12.680 --> 01:53:16.920 That so The washington model is something That i've been 2322 01:53:16.960 --> 01:53:20.199 considering over the past twenty four or forty eight hours or, whatever. 2323 01:53:19.960 --> 01:53:22.720 Because washington actually did. 2324 01:53:23.039 --> 01:53:28.000 Try but what they Did Billel kolabali Bub carrington And 2325 01:53:28.079 --> 01:53:30.479 Jordan poole is just a perfect vet to tank on your. 2326 01:53:30.560 --> 01:53:35.840 Roster they traded, kus they Played Alex, sar they Played Kaishawan, 2327 01:53:35.920 --> 01:53:39.600 george they Played Corey. Kisbert so What washington did, is, 2328 01:53:39.880 --> 01:53:42.239 yeah technically they traded For, middleton but he didn't really 2329 01:53:42.239 --> 01:53:45.159 play much for, them neither Did Malcolm, brogden and they 2330 01:53:45.199 --> 01:53:48.159 moved on From kuzma and, Again pools the type of 2331 01:53:48.239 --> 01:53:49.840 vet you want on your team if you're trying to, 2332 01:53:49.840 --> 01:53:52.760 lose because he doesn't necessarily play winning basketball when he's 2333 01:53:52.760 --> 01:53:56.199 a main. Cog so they essentially played all young guys 2334 01:53:56.399 --> 01:53:59.680 And Jordan. Poole so is there a world where the 2335 01:53:59.760 --> 01:54:04.199 Jazz as Jettison lowry and maybe Even walker And collins 2336 01:54:04.239 --> 01:54:07.600 And section or whoever they, can and they add the 2337 01:54:07.600 --> 01:54:09.920 two first rounders this year and maybe even the two 2338 01:54:09.960 --> 01:54:13.119 second rounders to the group of young players and we 2339 01:54:13.199 --> 01:54:16.560 see something LIKE i don't, Know John collins playing the 2340 01:54:16.640 --> 01:54:18.960 role Of Jordan, poole surrounded by a bunch of, kids 2341 01:54:19.439 --> 01:54:21.159 and then they do go try and play, hard but 2342 01:54:21.159 --> 01:54:22.800 they're not good enough and they win twenty. 2343 01:54:22.840 --> 01:54:24.760 Games, again is that a scenario you could? 2344 01:54:24.760 --> 01:54:27.760 See, YEAH i think that's the most likely. SCENARIO i 2345 01:54:27.760 --> 01:54:30.279 would just also say that That washington team is, tanked 2346 01:54:30.399 --> 01:54:33.359 like they you pointed out they didn't Play Chris middleton 2347 01:54:33.399 --> 01:54:34.640 at the end of the, year like they didn't Play 2348 01:54:34.640 --> 01:54:38.520 Marcus marit very. Much you, know like they were making 2349 01:54:38.560 --> 01:54:42.520 decisions in the fourth quarter of games that meant that 2350 01:54:42.560 --> 01:54:45.840 they were trying to lose, them, Right LIKE i watched 2351 01:54:45.880 --> 01:54:48.159 The wizards BECAUSE i cared about whether or not The 2352 01:54:48.199 --> 01:54:50.600 jazz got the first or second seat in THE nba draft, 2353 01:54:50.600 --> 01:54:54.000 Standings like they were trying to lose. Games, now, look 2354 01:54:54.039 --> 01:54:57.239 they probably would have finished bottom eight kind of, regardless, Right, 2355 01:54:57.319 --> 01:54:59.760 like they probably end up in that bottom five. Spot 2356 01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:03.199 but if you, again you want to actually compete in 2357 01:55:03.439 --> 01:55:06.600 the in the tank rates to be a bottom eight, 2358 01:55:06.680 --> 01:55:08.720 TEAM i do think you have to tank even to 2359 01:55:08.880 --> 01:55:13.159 like That wizard's degree of you, know, yeah sitting In, 2360 01:55:13.199 --> 01:55:17.720 middleton for, example so, look, YEAH i think that is 2361 01:55:17.800 --> 01:55:20.840 probably the most likely outcome for The jazz this, year 2362 01:55:21.800 --> 01:55:24.159 which is not going to be super fun, basketball but 2363 01:55:24.399 --> 01:55:29.239 at least we'll like feel a little bit less gross opening. 2364 01:55:29.399 --> 01:55:33.880 Night which vets on the roster now are on the. 2365 01:55:33.960 --> 01:55:34.680 Roster THEN. 2366 01:55:37.399 --> 01:55:41.680 I don't, KNOW i, MEAN i, YEAH i don't. 2367 01:55:41.720 --> 01:55:43.520 Know they're going to try to trade all of, THEM. 2368 01:55:45.840 --> 01:55:45.920 I. 2369 01:55:45.960 --> 01:55:48.000 Think, SO i, mean, look you you at least have 2370 01:55:48.079 --> 01:55:48.319 to have the. 2371 01:55:48.319 --> 01:55:52.159 Conversation you if you Bring lowery in with the you, 2372 01:55:52.159 --> 01:55:55.279 know and LET'S i don't Think Walker caster is a vet. 2373 01:55:55.399 --> 01:55:58.359 Yet so if you Bring lowry And walker into the, 2374 01:55:58.399 --> 01:56:02.119 season AND i think that's like a twenty five win, 2375 01:56:02.199 --> 01:56:05.720 team you, know, like AND i think that is again 2376 01:56:05.800 --> 01:56:08.680 really close to that eighth spot where you're giving up 2377 01:56:09.520 --> 01:56:11.319 giving up the pick of The Oclaba City. Thunder so 2378 01:56:11.399 --> 01:56:14.159 you at least have to have the. Conversations and our 2379 01:56:14.159 --> 01:56:17.119 Guy Tony jones is On twitter today telling everyone That 2380 01:56:17.239 --> 01:56:19.479 lowry has remained retained. 2381 01:56:19.159 --> 01:56:19.399 All of his. 2382 01:56:19.560 --> 01:56:22.159 Value So i've never been more convinced that The jazz 2383 01:56:22.159 --> 01:56:22.800 are going to try. 2384 01:56:22.640 --> 01:56:27.119 To Trade oh, dear oh, dear what would be? Okay, 2385 01:56:27.439 --> 01:56:31.279 so AND i tend to agree with, you what would 2386 01:56:31.279 --> 01:56:35.000 be the type of return you, Think, WELL i Guess 2387 01:56:35.039 --> 01:56:38.640 i'll Say, Austin, now what sort of return does An 2388 01:56:38.640 --> 01:56:40.920 Austin ainge look for while shopping lowry? 2389 01:56:40.960 --> 01:56:41.720 Marketing is it? 2390 01:56:41.840 --> 01:56:44.680 STRAIGHT i, mean there are rules, here and The jazz 2391 01:56:44.720 --> 01:56:47.520 don't have cap. Space they can't just absorb, contracts so 2392 01:56:47.560 --> 01:56:50.640 you do have to match money Unless John collins shocks 2393 01:56:50.720 --> 01:56:52.479 us all and walks away from the player option and 2394 01:56:52.560 --> 01:56:55.520 we have a different. Conversation but when you get there 2395 01:56:55.600 --> 01:56:58.000 and if you get a, release if we all get a, release, like, 2396 01:56:58.039 --> 01:57:00.039 hey The jazz have traded of lowry market and what 2397 01:57:00.079 --> 01:57:01.720 type of return you Think austin's looking? 2398 01:57:01.760 --> 01:57:03.239 For, YEAH i. 2399 01:57:03.239 --> 01:57:05.760 Mean you're you're looking for salary, Release you're hoping for 2400 01:57:05.880 --> 01:57:09.159 an interesting young, player and then you're hoping for a 2401 01:57:09.199 --> 01:57:11.840 pick or. TWO i, MEAN i think last. 2402 01:57:11.680 --> 01:57:14.720 Year that was essentially The warriors, trade. 2403 01:57:14.520 --> 01:57:16.920 Right like was a couple of first round picks And 2404 01:57:17.000 --> 01:57:22.199 jonathan cominga was kind of the, hope and you, know 2405 01:57:22.239 --> 01:57:24.640 you're kind of hoping for that same thing as last. 2406 01:57:24.720 --> 01:57:26.800 YEAR i made fun Of tony in the last, answer, 2407 01:57:26.880 --> 01:57:30.439 LIKE i do think you can get something semi similar 2408 01:57:30.520 --> 01:57:32.880 to what you were. OFFERED i just think that it 2409 01:57:32.920 --> 01:57:38.920 can come from fewer. Teams it's it's tricky because you, 2410 01:57:38.920 --> 01:57:42.000 know The, WARRIORS i think you can worry about them 2411 01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:43.920 in the long, term but they also have so much 2412 01:57:43.960 --> 01:57:45.640 money that they can kind of play it like The 2413 01:57:45.720 --> 01:57:47.960 lakers a little bit and just kind of stay in 2414 01:57:47.960 --> 01:57:52.119 that seventh to tenth spot for a. While so you 2415 01:57:52.119 --> 01:57:55.119 don't love getting their. Picks but it's hard to, know you, 2416 01:57:55.159 --> 01:57:57.439 KNOW i don't know that there's a team that you're 2417 01:57:57.479 --> 01:57:59.800 really excited on betting on their picks that are going 2418 01:57:59.880 --> 01:58:02.760 to be trading for lowry. Either SO i do anticipate 2419 01:58:02.800 --> 01:58:04.760 a ton of player movement this, year AND i think 2420 01:58:04.920 --> 01:58:07.960 just like being part of a three or fourteen trade 2421 01:58:08.119 --> 01:58:11.479 could be the outcome. Here and that's you know where 2422 01:58:11.520 --> 01:58:13.840 like a guy Like Justin zanik is actually really useful 2423 01:58:13.840 --> 01:58:15.880 because he does have those connections around the. League so, 2424 01:58:17.439 --> 01:58:20.840 YEAH i, MEAN i don't know exactly how that plays, 2425 01:58:20.840 --> 01:58:24.359 out but that's my guess is like some salary release 2426 01:58:25.159 --> 01:58:28.520 pick or two and an interesting young, player. 2427 01:58:29.039 --> 01:58:31.000 All, right we're going to revisit it every. Week can 2428 01:58:31.119 --> 01:58:33.159 tell the. Draft luckily it's only a couple of. Weeks 2429 01:58:33.159 --> 01:58:36.039 but BEFORE i, set you loose the Current Andy larson 2430 01:58:36.119 --> 01:58:38.600 opinion of best case scenario at five for The jazz 2431 01:58:38.680 --> 01:58:39.239 is who and? 2432 01:58:39.319 --> 01:58:44.520 Why probably V jay income right, now AND i don't know. 2433 01:58:44.560 --> 01:58:46.520 THAT i think it's unlikely that he falls to, five 2434 01:58:46.600 --> 01:58:49.199 but if he, DOES i think that's probably best case 2435 01:58:49.239 --> 01:58:52.359 BECAUSE i LIKE i like his, TOOLS i like his 2436 01:58:52.359 --> 01:58:55.680 production as a. Freshman his stats are actually better THAN 2437 01:58:55.680 --> 01:58:58.359 i think he's given credit. FOR i thought he measured 2438 01:58:58.359 --> 01:59:01.560 out well at the combine AND i think he's the 2439 01:59:01.720 --> 01:59:05.640 kind of tough minded defensive. Type the off name said 2440 01:59:05.640 --> 01:59:08.600 that he was interested in right, LIKE i think that 2441 01:59:08.880 --> 01:59:11.159 you can question that with other guys at the top 2442 01:59:11.199 --> 01:59:14.439 of this, Draft Ace, Bailey i'm just going to say the, 2443 01:59:14.520 --> 01:59:16.960 name AND i don't think you have to worry about 2444 01:59:16.960 --> 01:59:18.159 that very much with, me Jas. 2445 01:59:17.960 --> 01:59:20.760 Come we don't have time to talk about oursel and, 2446 01:59:20.800 --> 01:59:22.439 HONESTLY i don't want To, Andy So i'm going to 2447 01:59:22.479 --> 01:59:24.079 set you loose on A wednesday and we'll chat. 2448 01:59:24.119 --> 01:59:25.880 Soon but, okay sounds. 2449 01:59:25.920 --> 01:59:26.039 Good. 2450 01:59:26.079 --> 01:59:28.399 Thanks then get to the five o'clock. 2451 01:59:28.079 --> 01:59:30.239 Hour the program tonight and get you ready For game 2452 01:59:30.279 --> 01:59:33.600 one of The Stanley Cup finals With edmonton And, florida 2453 01:59:33.680 --> 01:59:36.479 rematch of last Year's Stanley cup matchup to win seven 2454 01:59:36.560 --> 01:59:40.000 Games Neil smith will roll. By good stuff From Josh 2455 01:59:40.000 --> 01:59:43.960 furlong And Andy larson so far, today but let's bring 2456 01:59:44.000 --> 01:59:48.920 in our, Guy Youte legends and Future hall Of Famer 2457 01:59:49.359 --> 01:59:52.159 Eric weddle on A wednesday. Afternoon, Ewent Happy, wednesday, man 2458 01:59:52.199 --> 01:59:54.239 how you doing doing? 2459 01:59:54.359 --> 01:59:55.720 Amazing thanks for having me. 2460 01:59:55.720 --> 01:59:58.920 On we can't say Future all Of famer yet because 2461 01:59:59.039 --> 02:00:01.600 we don't, know you, know voting can get, crazy so 2462 02:00:02.560 --> 02:00:08.359 we'll say maybe soon to Be hall Of famer would 2463 02:00:08.359 --> 02:00:09.479 have a nice ring to. 2464 02:00:09.520 --> 02:00:12.960 It, okay fair, enough fair, Enough i'm, optimistic you, wed 2465 02:00:12.960 --> 02:00:14.920 BUT i am not. You SO i will ask you 2466 02:00:15.359 --> 02:00:19.239 where were you when you found out this news and 2467 02:00:19.319 --> 02:00:21.840 what was your? Reaction BECAUSE i always find it interesting 2468 02:00:22.159 --> 02:00:24.760 talking to people like you that have achieved something like, 2469 02:00:24.840 --> 02:00:28.039 this and you, know you hear a lot of musicians 2470 02:00:28.119 --> 02:00:30.880 or athletes or the people that have achieved say things 2471 02:00:30.920 --> 02:00:33.800 like my dreams never got, There LIKE i never really 2472 02:00:33.920 --> 02:00:35.079 dreamed to be A hall Of. 2473 02:00:35.079 --> 02:00:36.800 Famer was this a goal of? 2474 02:00:36.840 --> 02:00:39.439 Yours or is this one of those things like a 2475 02:00:39.479 --> 02:00:42.399 potential accomplishment that you didn't even allow your mind to get. 2476 02:00:42.399 --> 02:00:46.239 To, YEAH i MEAN i don't think. 2477 02:00:48.159 --> 02:00:48.880 You're playing a team. 2478 02:00:48.960 --> 02:00:52.039 SPORT i don't think anyone goes in thinking they want 2479 02:00:52.039 --> 02:00:54.159 to end up A hall Of, famer it's just kind 2480 02:00:54.159 --> 02:00:57.000 of you, KNOW i could be. Wrong maybe it's Like 2481 02:00:57.079 --> 02:01:00.640 Deon sanders might have thought that because he was just 2482 02:01:00.720 --> 02:01:05.600 that incredibly talented and knew that of himself early. On 2483 02:01:06.119 --> 02:01:09.600 but for, myself it was just man living, living living 2484 02:01:09.640 --> 02:01:13.319 it up and having an opportunity to play college ball 2485 02:01:13.760 --> 02:01:16.159 is where few and far between get. That SO i 2486 02:01:16.199 --> 02:01:20.039 was trying to make the most every, day and then you, 2487 02:01:20.079 --> 02:01:22.479 know those things kind of fall into place when you're 2488 02:01:22.560 --> 02:01:28.079 around good, people great, coaches great, university great. Teammates like 2489 02:01:28.199 --> 02:01:33.199 it never happens by, yourself especially in. Football so if 2490 02:01:33.199 --> 02:01:35.479 something like this ever does happen for, me it's it's 2491 02:01:35.520 --> 02:01:36.199 definitely a group. 2492 02:01:36.239 --> 02:01:38.399 Effort where were you when you heard the news and 2493 02:01:38.399 --> 02:01:38.840 what was your? 2494 02:01:38.880 --> 02:01:43.159 Reaction he, went, Well Mark harlan actually reached out to, 2495 02:01:43.199 --> 02:01:45.319 me shot me a text, like, oh this is great 2496 02:01:45.359 --> 02:01:47.479 first step and getting into the College Football hall Of, 2497 02:01:47.560 --> 02:01:49.800 Fame AND i. DIDN'T i didn't know what he was talking. 2498 02:01:49.840 --> 02:01:52.800 About SO i was doing some other things AND i 2499 02:01:52.840 --> 02:01:55.000 didn't responded back BECAUSE i didn't know if it was 2500 02:01:55.199 --> 02:01:57.600 meant for me or someone. Else BECAUSE i DIDN'T i 2501 02:01:57.640 --> 02:02:00.399 didn't have like there was no news that the, time 2502 02:02:00.439 --> 02:02:03.319 and then of course the post started coming out in 2503 02:02:03.359 --> 02:02:07.800 the news stating THAT i was a finalist for. It 2504 02:02:07.960 --> 02:02:11.640 SO i was just out at the high school with 2505 02:02:11.680 --> 02:02:14.039 the football. Team we just finished up spring, ball so 2506 02:02:14.760 --> 02:02:17.279 just coaching these kids up AND i got the, news 2507 02:02:17.319 --> 02:02:23.520 and you, know it's, humbling, obviously it's, exciting and again 2508 02:02:23.600 --> 02:02:27.960 it's not not ever. Done no success on the football 2509 02:02:28.000 --> 02:02:30.680 that happens because of the. Individual it's always about the. 2510 02:02:30.680 --> 02:02:33.600 Team SO i just think about my teammates and think 2511 02:02:33.600 --> 02:02:36.600 about the. TEAM i think about the love Of utah 2512 02:02:36.640 --> 02:02:39.560 THAT i have in that, university and just thankful THAT 2513 02:02:39.880 --> 02:02:42.199 i ended up at the place THAT i was meant 2514 02:02:42.199 --> 02:02:42.359 to be. 2515 02:02:42.439 --> 02:02:46.000 At have you allowed yourself to think about what that 2516 02:02:46.119 --> 02:02:48.039 phone call would be like if you hear that you 2517 02:02:48.119 --> 02:02:50.560 have indeed been. Inducted have you allowed your mind to go? 2518 02:02:50.600 --> 02:02:50.840 There? 2519 02:02:52.000 --> 02:02:52.960 Nah, NAH i. 2520 02:02:53.000 --> 02:02:54.479 DON'T i. 2521 02:02:54.520 --> 02:02:55.600 DON'T i don't think too far. 2522 02:02:55.640 --> 02:02:56.159 Ahead And. 2523 02:02:58.199 --> 02:03:00.479 I'm a guy that hopes for the but. 2524 02:03:00.520 --> 02:03:03.800 Prepared for the. Worst SO i don't let myself get 2525 02:03:03.800 --> 02:03:06.560 too far down that road. 2526 02:03:08.279 --> 02:03:09.479 Because it's just it's not my. 2527 02:03:09.560 --> 02:03:12.520 Mentality when it, happens it'll, be it'll be fresh and 2528 02:03:12.560 --> 02:03:15.840 it'll be, new And i'll enjoy it if it, happens 2529 02:03:15.840 --> 02:03:17.720 and if, not Then i'll just go about my day 2530 02:03:17.800 --> 02:03:18.279 LIKE i always. 2531 02:03:18.359 --> 02:03:19.159 Do that's a great. 2532 02:03:19.199 --> 02:03:21.600 Attitude BUT i will follow up with what would it 2533 02:03:21.720 --> 02:03:24.239 mean to you if you do get that call and 2534 02:03:24.359 --> 02:03:26.560 the news is you're in, man what would that mean to? 2535 02:03:26.600 --> 02:03:34.439 You, well you, know it's it's A it means you're 2536 02:03:35.119 --> 02:03:40.279 you're an all time, Great you're you're you less lasting. 2537 02:03:41.039 --> 02:03:45.159 Impression on the field and off. Of very few do 2538 02:03:45.479 --> 02:03:48.000 AND i THINK i don't. KNOW i think the numbers 2539 02:03:48.000 --> 02:03:51.720 around thirteen hundred College Football hall Of. Famer so to 2540 02:03:51.760 --> 02:03:54.079 be in that mix and to be said and looked 2541 02:03:54.119 --> 02:03:56.600 at as A hall Of famer is a very very. 2542 02:03:56.520 --> 02:03:58.720 Unique and humbling. 2543 02:03:59.119 --> 02:04:03.479 Proposition it's to really wrap your head around it is 2544 02:04:03.600 --> 02:04:06.520 kind of. Hard it's kind of hard to do BECAUSE i, 2545 02:04:06.520 --> 02:04:09.920 don't you, know people know. ME i don't look at 2546 02:04:09.920 --> 02:04:13.479 myself in that. INSTANCE i THINK i put it all out, 2547 02:04:13.520 --> 02:04:15.840 there AND i think in the COLLEGE i said this 2548 02:04:16.000 --> 02:04:18.119 a couple of days. AGO i think The College Football 2549 02:04:18.159 --> 02:04:19.800 hall Of FAME i could sit there and, say, YEAH 2550 02:04:19.840 --> 02:04:22.920 i THINK i was one of the best in that 2551 02:04:23.079 --> 02:04:24.800 sense WHERE i could be labeled. 2552 02:04:24.439 --> 02:04:24.800 As A hall Of. 2553 02:04:24.840 --> 02:04:27.239 Fame, now THE nfl is a whole different, animal WHICH 2554 02:04:27.279 --> 02:04:31.079 i don't think in my, opinion but the college, football 2555 02:04:31.119 --> 02:04:32.880 LIKE i could sit there and, say, YEAH i belong 2556 02:04:33.359 --> 02:04:36.640 with one of the best in those names that are, 2557 02:04:36.720 --> 02:04:41.840 Enshrined so it would be incredible and, humbling and TRULY 2558 02:04:43.520 --> 02:04:45.640 i would probably be lost for, words If i'm being. 2559 02:04:45.680 --> 02:04:48.439 Honest, Okay i'm glad you said what you just, said 2560 02:04:48.439 --> 02:04:50.920 BECAUSE i was going to follow up with, this like 2561 02:04:51.000 --> 02:04:53.920 you do know that you are an all time, great, 2562 02:04:54.039 --> 02:04:57.079 right like you're aware of exactly what you mean to 2563 02:04:57.159 --> 02:04:58.119 the program around? 2564 02:04:58.119 --> 02:05:06.079 Here, Correct, WELL i mean, YEAH i know, it And 2565 02:05:06.399 --> 02:05:10.560 i'm loved and you know that place is a very 2566 02:05:10.600 --> 02:05:11.439 special place in my. 2567 02:05:11.479 --> 02:05:17.000 Heart so IT'S i. Know, now there are so many great, 2568 02:05:17.039 --> 02:05:21.600 Players so where do you rank? THEM i kind of 2569 02:05:21.600 --> 02:05:25.119 in the old adage Of jordan of you, know rank 2570 02:05:25.199 --> 02:05:26.960 me where you rank, Them but you can't put me 2571 02:05:27.000 --> 02:05:30.319 ahead of people that played twenty years before, me thirty 2572 02:05:30.359 --> 02:05:32.600 forty fifty. Years LIKE i respect the game way too, 2573 02:05:32.680 --> 02:05:35.600 much BUT i do Know i'm loved and. APPRECIATED i 2574 02:05:36.479 --> 02:05:37.199 know that around the. 2575 02:05:37.319 --> 02:05:40.560 University, okay, okay fair, enough fair, enough BECAUSE i MEAN 2576 02:05:40.560 --> 02:05:43.279 i appreciate the. ATTITUDE i respect the, Endeavor but as a, 2577 02:05:43.359 --> 02:05:47.479 player you were a. Killer you know you, Were SO 2578 02:05:47.680 --> 02:05:49.960 i wonder how you balance out being such a killer 2579 02:05:50.000 --> 02:05:52.560 on the field while maintaining more of a balanced approach 2580 02:05:52.640 --> 02:05:53.000 just as a. 2581 02:05:53.079 --> 02:05:57.800 Human, WELL i mean that you cross that white. Line 2582 02:05:59.000 --> 02:06:01.680 at any point in my, career WHETHER i was a 2583 02:06:01.680 --> 02:06:05.760 true freshman at The university Of utah or fourteenth year 2584 02:06:05.960 --> 02:06:10.880 coming off the street two years, retired my goal in mindset, 2585 02:06:11.119 --> 02:06:17.000 Was I'm i'm here to annihilate my. Opposition i'm not 2586 02:06:17.079 --> 02:06:20.359 here to make. Friends i'm not here when it's my 2587 02:06:20.520 --> 02:06:22.800 job is on the. Line, yes WHEN i get off 2588 02:06:22.800 --> 02:06:26.640 the white, Line i'm a great, teammate AND i love 2589 02:06:26.720 --> 02:06:28.960 my teammates and this and. That but MY i have 2590 02:06:29.000 --> 02:06:32.039 a job to, do and it's every rep is a 2591 02:06:32.159 --> 02:06:34.880 chance to prove THAT i belong on this, field leading this. 2592 02:06:35.000 --> 02:06:39.079 Team so it's a very easy switch to turn on and, 2593 02:06:39.119 --> 02:06:41.319 off AS i learned to do over the course of 2594 02:06:41.359 --> 02:06:45.000 my college years and then in THE. Nfl but it's 2595 02:06:45.479 --> 02:06:48.159 a doggy dog, world and if you don't have that, 2596 02:06:48.239 --> 02:06:50.880 mindset you will get eaten up and spit. Out and 2597 02:06:50.920 --> 02:06:53.720 So i'd rather be on the other side of eating 2598 02:06:53.800 --> 02:06:54.680 than getting spit. 2599 02:06:54.800 --> 02:06:58.359 OUT i WONDER i wanted to ask this today BECAUSE 2600 02:06:58.399 --> 02:07:01.600 i come from the family eric WHERE i am the 2601 02:07:01.640 --> 02:07:04.399 oldest of six AND i am the only one of 2602 02:07:04.439 --> 02:07:05.960 the six that went to The university Of. 2603 02:07:06.039 --> 02:07:09.600 Utah the other five all went TO, byu. 2604 02:07:09.079 --> 02:07:12.399 And they all, Married they all married spouses they met 2605 02:07:12.399 --> 02:07:15.159 AT byu and they, all, sure. 2606 02:07:15.159 --> 02:07:17.720 You're you're, outnumbered my. 2607 02:07:17.800 --> 02:07:20.359 Friend OH i y, ah my chose. Truth ewett is 2608 02:07:20.399 --> 02:07:21.159 HOW i like to put. 2609 02:07:21.199 --> 02:07:23.720 It, uh you, know OBVIOUSLY i like to rid, them 2610 02:07:23.760 --> 02:07:25.880 AND i, mean, look it's all, love it's all. Good 2611 02:07:26.960 --> 02:07:29.720 and you, know a lot of the coaches down there 2612 02:07:30.359 --> 02:07:32.399 and they are all of my, brothers they went TO. 2613 02:07:32.439 --> 02:07:35.960 Byu they always say you're the ute that they wish 2614 02:07:36.479 --> 02:07:38.800 was a, cougar and you're the ute that they just 2615 02:07:38.880 --> 02:07:40.439 cannot say anything negative. 2616 02:07:40.439 --> 02:07:42.399 About does that jive with your? 2617 02:07:42.439 --> 02:07:45.880 Experience does it feel like you have that universal respect 2618 02:07:45.920 --> 02:07:47.520 from both these fan bases up. 2619 02:07:47.560 --> 02:07:53.880 Here, WELL i think it's it's you, know to hear 2620 02:07:53.960 --> 02:07:55.840 that is really it makes me. 2621 02:07:55.920 --> 02:07:57.199 Smile it makes ME. 2622 02:07:58.720 --> 02:08:00.880 I don't like to say it like and moments where 2623 02:08:00.880 --> 02:08:03.880 you're proud of, yourself BUT i truly am proud of 2624 02:08:03.960 --> 02:08:07.119 HOW i try to represent myself and my family and my, 2625 02:08:07.279 --> 02:08:10.279 name my last, name and even more so in the 2626 02:08:10.279 --> 02:08:12.359 grand scheme of. Things we're all here for a, purpose 2627 02:08:12.479 --> 02:08:14.000 and we can get all riled, up and at the 2628 02:08:14.079 --> 02:08:17.560 end of the, day it's about respecting your opponent no matter, 2629 02:08:17.600 --> 02:08:23.079 what and speaking and treating your opponent in that type of. 2630 02:08:23.119 --> 02:08:26.560 FASHION i want to be treated as how others treat, 2631 02:08:26.600 --> 02:08:30.039 me and so to hear THAT i do smile AND 2632 02:08:30.600 --> 02:08:35.119 i am proud of that BECAUSE i tried to represent 2633 02:08:35.159 --> 02:08:38.199 myself in a way that most people will be proud 2634 02:08:38.239 --> 02:08:41.199 to have me on their, team regardless of the. Rivalry and, 2635 02:08:42.039 --> 02:08:45.039 SHOOT i am so close with coaches on both, sides 2636 02:08:46.239 --> 02:08:50.680 even AT byu talk to those guys right just as. 2637 02:08:50.760 --> 02:08:55.840 Much and those men that are in those leadership roles mentoring. 2638 02:08:55.960 --> 02:08:59.680 ROLES i tip my hat to all of, them especially 2639 02:08:59.680 --> 02:09:03.119 the one THAT i love and care, for because they 2640 02:09:03.159 --> 02:09:06.039 are men THAT i look up to and that are 2641 02:09:06.159 --> 02:09:11.159 changing the trajectory of these young. Men and so both 2642 02:09:11.239 --> 02:09:14.239 programs have great men that are lead them and women 2643 02:09:14.279 --> 02:09:16.279 that are in within the facility and doing all the 2644 02:09:16.319 --> 02:09:19.439 great things like they're really top notch programs THAT i 2645 02:09:19.479 --> 02:09:23.760 am awesome to be affiliated with through friendships and. 2646 02:09:23.800 --> 02:09:28.680 FAMILY i wonder if you feel comfortable because the relationships 2647 02:09:28.680 --> 02:09:31.800 you have with your former coaches and, teammates, that's you, 2648 02:09:31.840 --> 02:09:35.319 know that's a sacred. Space AND i have been close 2649 02:09:35.439 --> 02:09:38.039 enough in in locker rooms and around teams THAT i 2650 02:09:38.119 --> 02:09:40.640 respect that. Space BUT i wonder if you'd feel comfortable 2651 02:09:40.680 --> 02:09:44.119 sharing whether or not you heard From morgan Or Coach 2652 02:09:44.159 --> 02:09:46.399 witt Or klani when the news came down that you're 2653 02:09:46.439 --> 02:09:47.479 on The hall Of fame. 2654 02:09:47.520 --> 02:09:49.399 Ballot what other phone calls did you? Receive. 2655 02:09:49.439 --> 02:09:55.840 You, Yeah Coach wit of course reached out and congratulated, 2656 02:09:55.920 --> 02:10:01.199 me and on both, sides anyone that knows me or 2657 02:10:01.640 --> 02:10:08.159 or is close with me reached. Out but they also 2658 02:10:08.239 --> 02:10:10.319 know me as well that it's not a done, deal 2659 02:10:10.399 --> 02:10:15.840 so they'll probably want to save the congratulateary the congratulations 2660 02:10:16.439 --> 02:10:19.000 to when it's a final set and. Done so they 2661 02:10:19.319 --> 02:10:21.119 know me as well That i'm probably not missing a 2662 02:10:21.199 --> 02:10:23.399 beat until it becomes. 2663 02:10:23.439 --> 02:10:25.880 Final tell me how the coaching stuff is. 2664 02:10:25.920 --> 02:10:28.960 Going last time we talked to, you, you you, know 2665 02:10:29.000 --> 02:10:32.279 you kind of outlined the early returns of this new 2666 02:10:32.359 --> 02:10:35.520 endeavor of. Yours AND i wonder if any of these 2667 02:10:35.560 --> 02:10:38.439 young men who you are coaching have any idea what 2668 02:10:38.560 --> 02:10:40.079 sort of killer you really were as a. 2669 02:10:40.079 --> 02:10:46.840 PLAYER i think the younger, generation each year that goes, 2670 02:10:46.840 --> 02:10:49.039 BY i could care less about who their head coaches 2671 02:10:49.359 --> 02:10:53.319 and what he used to. Be and SOMETIMES i have 2672 02:10:53.439 --> 02:10:58.560 to remind them in a positive way That i'm here 2673 02:10:58.600 --> 02:11:01.199 to help them and guys them and take it for 2674 02:11:01.319 --> 02:11:04.359 what it's worth some, pole some of them goes one 2675 02:11:04.399 --> 02:11:08.560 year out the. Other but the few that actually take 2676 02:11:08.640 --> 02:11:11.680 it and will be better from, it and those are 2677 02:11:11.720 --> 02:11:14.239 the those are the ones that you're really gonna. Impact 2678 02:11:14.359 --> 02:11:17.760 can't impact them, all you try, to but the few 2679 02:11:17.840 --> 02:11:20.640 that want it on and off the, field and and 2680 02:11:20.760 --> 02:11:24.800 try to build these young men into future fathers and 2681 02:11:24.920 --> 02:11:28.920 husbands of the. Future that's really the ultimate. Goal and, 2682 02:11:29.800 --> 02:11:34.279 uh you, know these these kids, nowadays they got so 2683 02:11:34.359 --> 02:11:37.920 much going on that football and or the history of 2684 02:11:38.279 --> 02:11:43.079 who their coach maybe is way down the list of prioritizing. 2685 02:11:43.119 --> 02:11:48.680 Things your your boy Is, gauge, correct that's your, Son, yes, 2686 02:11:48.760 --> 02:11:49.960 sir you still have him in the. 2687 02:11:50.000 --> 02:11:51.279 Program and if, so how's that. 2688 02:11:51.319 --> 02:11:56.279 Going, yeah he's, uh he's gonna be a sophomore coming. 2689 02:11:56.359 --> 02:11:57.199 Up oh he's only a. 2690 02:11:57.199 --> 02:12:03.119 Sofa, yeah, yeah he's, uh he is a, fun fun 2691 02:12:04.239 --> 02:12:09.000 kid to be, around his, passion his work, ethic how he, 2692 02:12:09.159 --> 02:12:12.920 leads he's, uh he's got a chance to be, special 2693 02:12:13.359 --> 02:12:16.079 And i'm just along for the ride and trying to 2694 02:12:16.119 --> 02:12:20.000 help guide him as BEST i, can and excited for 2695 02:12:20.159 --> 02:12:23.399 this year to lead our. Team and he's put in 2696 02:12:23.439 --> 02:12:26.920 the work on and off the field and really put 2697 02:12:26.920 --> 02:12:29.279 his best foot foot forward to have a great. 2698 02:12:29.119 --> 02:12:29.880 Year on offensive. 2699 02:12:30.000 --> 02:12:33.319 Defense so, uh we got we got a good group 2700 02:12:33.359 --> 02:12:38.039 coming back in the, uh connected. Unit gotta stay, healthy, 2701 02:12:38.079 --> 02:12:40.319 obviously but we have a chance to be really good 2702 02:12:40.399 --> 02:12:45.079 and we'll see where his, uh his journey takes him 2703 02:12:45.600 --> 02:12:46.319 over the next few. 2704 02:12:46.399 --> 02:12:48.239 Years you play like his dad at. 2705 02:12:48.279 --> 02:12:52.840 All he's better than me WHEN i was at this 2706 02:12:52.960 --> 02:12:59.079 point in high. School so, uh he's a, bigger probably 2707 02:12:59.079 --> 02:13:02.479 more physical verse. Myself you, know he's he's six to, 2708 02:13:02.479 --> 02:13:04.439 two he's one hundred and eighty five pounds now and 2709 02:13:04.680 --> 02:13:06.359 getting big and. Strong so. 2710 02:13:07.840 --> 02:13:08.079 He's. 2711 02:13:08.199 --> 02:13:11.279 UH i can only hope and dream that he'll have 2712 02:13:11.359 --> 02:13:15.319 a better high school college and if he could ever 2713 02:13:15.399 --> 02:13:17.359 make it better career THAN i ever, did. 2714 02:13:18.279 --> 02:13:21.079 What sort of, see it's such a delicate. BALANCE i, 2715 02:13:21.119 --> 02:13:25.399 mean what sort of advice do you give? Him what 2716 02:13:25.560 --> 02:13:27.680 sort OF i, mean Because i'm a parent, too and 2717 02:13:27.880 --> 02:13:30.359 you really learn as they grow the best thing you 2718 02:13:30.399 --> 02:13:33.640 can do is be. Guardrails and you, know it's like 2719 02:13:33.720 --> 02:13:36.199 bumper lanes and bowling and they're the. Ball you're there 2720 02:13:36.239 --> 02:13:38.680 to make sure they kind of stay in the, lane 2721 02:13:38.720 --> 02:13:40.960 but you can't roll the ball down the middle for. 2722 02:13:41.159 --> 02:13:44.000 Them so what's it been like to watch this young 2723 02:13:44.079 --> 02:13:46.279 man grow and evolve as a, Player and how do 2724 02:13:46.319 --> 02:13:49.319 you balance that as somebody that played and won at 2725 02:13:49.359 --> 02:13:51.520 the highest of. Levels when it comes to the advice 2726 02:13:51.600 --> 02:13:52.680 you dispensed to, him. 2727 02:13:54.279 --> 02:13:57.199 WELL i just try to remind them that no matter, 2728 02:13:57.239 --> 02:14:00.399 what if you don't have fun and you don't love 2729 02:14:01.359 --> 02:14:04.600 the game and everything that, entails and what's the. Point 2730 02:14:05.319 --> 02:14:10.520 the game is beautiful when it's purest. Form so trying 2731 02:14:10.560 --> 02:14:12.880 to remind him, that AND i think he does a 2732 02:14:12.880 --> 02:14:17.079 good job of, that but he just he wants to 2733 02:14:17.119 --> 02:14:19.199 be so good AND i think he puts a lot 2734 02:14:19.199 --> 02:14:22.760 of pressure on himself That reminding him that it's it's 2735 02:14:22.800 --> 02:14:26.920 about managing the, misapps the negative plays and how you 2736 02:14:26.960 --> 02:14:31.079 rebound from that and how you control your emotions from 2737 02:14:31.079 --> 02:14:33.159 a play to play basis is something THAT i think 2738 02:14:33.199 --> 02:14:36.239 he's going to grow to be able to handle and 2739 02:14:36.319 --> 02:14:43.800 really make that. Strength but you, know he's it's just, 2740 02:14:43.880 --> 02:14:47.520 that you, know last year was a delicate situation being 2741 02:14:47.520 --> 02:14:52.439 a freshman and being the head. Coach But i'm not 2742 02:14:52.520 --> 02:14:57.479 going to be apologetic for one of my best, players 2743 02:14:58.520 --> 02:15:00.640 and it just so happens to be my. Son, Like 2744 02:15:00.840 --> 02:15:04.000 i'm not gonna sit here and not give him positive 2745 02:15:04.039 --> 02:15:06.359 feedback or be excited when he makes a great play 2746 02:15:06.399 --> 02:15:09.640 on the, field or do this and that because of the. 2747 02:15:09.680 --> 02:15:12.960 Optics i'm not doing that. Anymore So i'm gonna be. 2748 02:15:13.000 --> 02:15:15.960 Proud AND i only get to coach him three more, 2749 02:15:16.039 --> 02:15:18.359 years And i'm gonna enjoy every second of it Because 2750 02:15:18.880 --> 02:15:21.359 i'm not doing this for anything other than trying to 2751 02:15:21.359 --> 02:15:24.159 get back to the. Kids and he just happens to 2752 02:15:24.199 --> 02:15:26.680 be one of our better players that does everything. RIGHT 2753 02:15:26.680 --> 02:15:28.000 i shouldn't have to apologize for. 2754 02:15:28.039 --> 02:15:28.760 That, no you. 2755 02:15:28.760 --> 02:15:31.399 Shouldn't you should never have Put you should revel in, 2756 02:15:31.479 --> 02:15:33.920 it you should be proud of. It you should enjoy 2757 02:15:34.000 --> 02:15:37.319 the entire. Situation i've got his socials, up AND i 2758 02:15:37.359 --> 02:15:39.680 see as a, freshman he was your starting quarterback and 2759 02:15:39.720 --> 02:15:43.560 also starting, safety and he has schools calling. Already, right 2760 02:15:43.640 --> 02:15:45.640 looks like he's got some offers in his back pocket, 2761 02:15:45.680 --> 02:15:46.720 already even only as a. 2762 02:15:46.720 --> 02:15:52.199 Freshman, YEAH i, mean it's it's it kind of came 2763 02:15:52.520 --> 02:15:58.279 came at a. Whirlwind you. Know the recruiting starts way early. 2764 02:15:58.359 --> 02:16:02.039 Nowadays especially if you know if you're a freshman playing 2765 02:16:02.079 --> 02:16:04.800 on varsity and then you play, well schools are gonna 2766 02:16:04.840 --> 02:16:08.720 find you and they're gonna they're gonna start getting their 2767 02:16:08.760 --> 02:16:11.880 feelers out and let you know that that you're on 2768 02:16:11.960 --> 02:16:15.319 their on their. Radar so he's got a long ways to, 2769 02:16:15.319 --> 02:16:18.640 go and he understands that that this these offers are 2770 02:16:18.680 --> 02:16:21.720 basically saying, like we're interested in, you and if you 2771 02:16:21.800 --> 02:16:24.800 keep developing and keep getting better and improving over the 2772 02:16:24.840 --> 02:16:26.920 next couple of, years then these this could be a. 2773 02:16:26.960 --> 02:16:32.440 Reality but oftentimes the attention comes with these young, kids 2774 02:16:32.920 --> 02:16:35.559 they go the other way and they they don't stay, 2775 02:16:35.639 --> 02:16:38.959 humble and they don't stay, hungry and they become entitled 2776 02:16:39.239 --> 02:16:42.760 and they feel like they've arrived when that's not. Reality 2777 02:16:42.799 --> 02:16:44.680 you have a bullseeye in your. Back even more so 2778 02:16:44.840 --> 02:16:47.479 for him for who his dad, is that he's got 2779 02:16:47.479 --> 02:16:51.440 to outwork and outplay everyone every. Day you can't ever 2780 02:16:51.520 --> 02:16:54.799 let up because that'll be the opportunity that that someone 2781 02:16:54.840 --> 02:16:57.840 comes and takes your, job or takes your takes your playing, 2782 02:16:57.879 --> 02:17:01.479 time and or takes that. Scholarship so, oh he has 2783 02:17:01.520 --> 02:17:07.360 a good sense of, that and he appreciates the love per, 2784 02:17:07.440 --> 02:17:09.719 se but he knows he has a long way to go. 2785 02:17:09.600 --> 02:17:10.079 To make it a. 2786 02:17:10.120 --> 02:17:15.600 REALITY i noticed, EARLIER, ewd you recently turned, forty so 2787 02:17:15.719 --> 02:17:19.200 welcome to our. CLUB i, am, again a little more 2788 02:17:19.200 --> 02:17:21.840 advanced than you, are But i'm still in the forties, 2789 02:17:22.280 --> 02:17:25.920 Area so welcome to the. Forties and it's been a 2790 02:17:25.959 --> 02:17:29.079 minute since you went through the recruiting. STUFF i wonder 2791 02:17:29.120 --> 02:17:32.200 what the main differences are that you've, noticed because college 2792 02:17:32.200 --> 02:17:35.360 football is much different now than it was in two 2793 02:17:35.399 --> 02:17:37.520 thousand and, one two thousand and two when you were being. 2794 02:17:37.559 --> 02:17:40.719 Recruited what are the main differences between what you See 2795 02:17:40.799 --> 02:17:43.479 gauge and his teammates going through and what you went through. 2796 02:17:43.319 --> 02:17:43.680 Back in the. 2797 02:17:43.760 --> 02:17:47.680 Day, YEAH i, mean that's a great. QUESTION i crce 2798 02:17:47.719 --> 02:17:51.280 s been quite an hour talking about the differences and 2799 02:17:51.360 --> 02:17:55.639 trying to navigate the landscape of recruiting. NOW i, MEAN 2800 02:17:56.440 --> 02:17:59.360 i took my official visit to The university Of utah 2801 02:17:59.399 --> 02:18:03.559 and descend and ended up committing that week a month 2802 02:18:03.639 --> 02:18:10.120 before signing, day where now a lot of times these these, 2803 02:18:10.120 --> 02:18:13.120 players depending on, positions depending on, need et, cetera et, 2804 02:18:13.159 --> 02:18:19.600 cetera can be committing sophomore junior. Season so it's it's definitely. 2805 02:18:20.719 --> 02:18:24.680 Changed and with THE, nil you, know the programs that 2806 02:18:25.440 --> 02:18:30.879 emphasize culture and loyalty and being a part of the 2807 02:18:30.920 --> 02:18:35.079 community and the university is much more appealing to me 2808 02:18:35.520 --> 02:18:38.280 Because i'm a little old. School but you, know some 2809 02:18:38.360 --> 02:18:42.040 schools aren't that. Way so it's it's, hey we need, 2810 02:18:42.159 --> 02:18:44.360 you we want, you how much CAN i pay? 2811 02:18:44.399 --> 02:18:44.559 You? 2812 02:18:44.600 --> 02:18:47.399 Where in the grand scheme of, things this is a 2813 02:18:47.520 --> 02:18:52.719 huge decision on not only what happens on the, field 2814 02:18:52.760 --> 02:18:56.559 but the relationships and connections you make off the field 2815 02:18:56.680 --> 02:18:59.280 and how you represent. Yourself and it goes both, ways 2816 02:18:59.399 --> 02:19:02.399 right like your year the school may tell you that 2817 02:19:02.440 --> 02:19:03.799 you're never going to play, it so you want to 2818 02:19:03.840 --> 02:19:06.680 hit the, portal and then other cases that you want 2819 02:19:06.719 --> 02:19:08.559 more money and this and. That so it's just so 2820 02:19:08.639 --> 02:19:12.680 many different. DYNAMICS i just try to remind all my 2821 02:19:12.840 --> 02:19:15.040 kids engage when he gets to that. Point it's just 2822 02:19:16.040 --> 02:19:20.280 the connection and where do you see yourself for four? Years, Right, 2823 02:19:20.440 --> 02:19:25.159 like where do you want to build the relationships and 2824 02:19:25.440 --> 02:19:30.520 build a legacy on this, endeavor, Right, like it's not 2825 02:19:30.600 --> 02:19:33.680 about the, money it's not about WHERE i can get, 2826 02:19:33.719 --> 02:19:37.000 this so that obviously it's it's it's about the you, 2827 02:19:37.040 --> 02:19:41.479 know DEXes and o's and systems and offense and defense 2828 02:19:41.559 --> 02:19:43.360 and the staff and who's going to be coaching me 2829 02:19:43.399 --> 02:19:45.639 and the culture and this and that blah blah. Blah 2830 02:19:45.680 --> 02:19:49.000 but outside, that it's what do you? Want what is 2831 02:19:49.040 --> 02:19:52.200 your last impression on? You, like what do you want 2832 02:19:52.239 --> 02:19:55.520 to be represented? By and what do you want to 2833 02:19:55.559 --> 02:19:57.959 be remembered? By you want to be a remembered by 2834 02:19:58.319 --> 02:20:01.399 chasing the next best thing or staying where your feet 2835 02:20:01.440 --> 02:20:04.680 are and growing and dealing with adversity and dealing with 2836 02:20:04.760 --> 02:20:08.559 competition and maybe falling, down are you going to get back? 2837 02:20:08.639 --> 02:20:10.760 Up or are you going to run to the next best? Thing, 2838 02:20:11.079 --> 02:20:14.600 Like so those are the things THAT i try to 2839 02:20:14.600 --> 02:20:18.040 look at and try to educate our. Kids and it's 2840 02:20:18.040 --> 02:20:20.959 not me, though It's gauge's decision and his. Journey i'm 2841 02:20:21.000 --> 02:20:22.319 just trying to help. Him at the end of the, 2842 02:20:22.399 --> 02:20:24.840 day it's going to be him and what he. Wants 2843 02:20:24.879 --> 02:20:28.760 BUT i know deep down that whatever, decision when if 2844 02:20:28.799 --> 02:20:31.959 it comes to that if he's fortunate enough to have a, 2845 02:20:31.959 --> 02:20:34.319 decision then he'll do it for the right. 2846 02:20:34.319 --> 02:20:36.840 Reasons i'm quite sure. 2847 02:20:36.959 --> 02:20:40.040 That are you fans listening after they heard you Say 2848 02:20:40.360 --> 02:20:43.760 gage is a, bigger stronger version of, me are waiting 2849 02:20:43.760 --> 02:20:46.159 for me to ask you if that's the. Case is 2850 02:20:46.200 --> 02:20:49.040 there any chance this young man plays his college ball 2851 02:20:49.079 --> 02:20:49.639 In Salt Lake? 2852 02:20:49.680 --> 02:20:51.159 City and if, so what would that mean to? 2853 02:20:51.200 --> 02:20:51.360 You? 2854 02:20:54.399 --> 02:21:00.200 YEAH i Mean gade is a gauge is he's a 2855 02:21:00.200 --> 02:21:03.680 big thinker in the sense that he wants to be 2856 02:21:03.680 --> 02:21:06.399 better THAN i, was and he he wants to make 2857 02:21:06.399 --> 02:21:11.600 his own. Mark, now he obviously has a deep love For, 2858 02:21:11.760 --> 02:21:17.479 Utah BUT i would be, HONESTLY i would be happy 2859 02:21:17.719 --> 02:21:20.040 if he gets to play college. Football i'm not really 2860 02:21:20.079 --> 02:21:25.360 pigeonholed on Where i'm more just would be so proud 2861 02:21:25.399 --> 02:21:27.639 if he even gets a, chance because it's it's, tough. 2862 02:21:27.719 --> 02:21:31.319 Man there's amazing players across the board that do things 2863 02:21:31.360 --> 02:21:35.040 the right, way and sometimes it just is. Luck sometimes 2864 02:21:35.079 --> 02:21:38.680 it's staying injury. Free sometimes it's just seeing a coach 2865 02:21:39.319 --> 02:21:42.399 that believes in. You like there's so many different. Factors so, 2866 02:21:42.840 --> 02:21:45.280 YES i would be honored and proud if he went 2867 02:21:45.319 --> 02:21:48.159 to THE. U but he's gonna carve out his own, 2868 02:21:48.200 --> 02:21:52.719 journey and obviously he will when he gets to that 2869 02:21:53.000 --> 02:21:56.200 if he has. Choices but there's gonna be there's a 2870 02:21:56.200 --> 02:22:00.360 lot of great schools out there that have showed that 2871 02:22:00.440 --> 02:22:03.440 they like, him and if he continues on the trajectory, that, 2872 02:22:04.559 --> 02:22:07.360 well he'll have his, choice which was just pretty insane 2873 02:22:07.360 --> 02:22:07.840 to even think. 2874 02:22:07.840 --> 02:22:09.799 ABOUT i think it's. AWESOME i think it's. 2875 02:22:09.840 --> 02:22:12.639 Great as a father of his, SON i know what 2876 02:22:12.680 --> 02:22:15.000 that must feel like for. You BEFORE i set, You Lucy, 2877 02:22:15.079 --> 02:22:17.440 wed we all know that you're one of The Big. 2878 02:22:17.479 --> 02:22:20.399 Twelve was not what we were hoping for any of 2879 02:22:20.440 --> 02:22:21.520 us expected at. 2880 02:22:21.600 --> 02:22:24.200 All some new, coaches some new. 2881 02:22:24.280 --> 02:22:28.079 Transfers what's your confidence level The utah football year two 2882 02:22:28.159 --> 02:22:30.600 in The big twelve will look better than it did year? 2883 02:22:30.639 --> 02:22:35.040 One, well, YEAH i Mean i've Been i've been fortunate 2884 02:22:35.159 --> 02:22:39.319 enough That Coach wit And scally and Even Coach lued 2885 02:22:40.200 --> 02:22:43.600 before he, left allowed myself and some coaches to come 2886 02:22:43.600 --> 02:22:45.959 out for two three days at a. Time being all the, 2887 02:22:46.040 --> 02:22:50.559 meetings position, meetings coaches meetings obviously be at the, practices 2888 02:22:50.680 --> 02:22:55.000 So i'm pretty intimate with what's going on and seeing 2889 02:22:55.040 --> 02:23:03.000 the guys And I'm i'm, optimistic, ecstatic excited for the. 2890 02:23:03.040 --> 02:23:06.200 TEAM i think it's a it's a more connected. UNIT 2891 02:23:07.040 --> 02:23:11.399 i believe with the change, offensively change is good if you're. 2892 02:23:11.399 --> 02:23:14.959 Willing and obviously we need to stay, healthy we know, 2893 02:23:15.040 --> 02:23:19.360 that but the groundwork is, there AND i think the 2894 02:23:19.799 --> 02:23:22.799 changes offensively are going to bring a fresh new, start 2895 02:23:22.920 --> 02:23:28.159 a fresh new vibe and energy and. BELIEF i think 2896 02:23:28.200 --> 02:23:31.120 with our offensive, line with those tackles and in the 2897 02:23:31.200 --> 02:23:33.799 guards and just the whole unit is going to be 2898 02:23:33.840 --> 02:23:37.079 the best in the country potentially two first round picks 2899 02:23:37.079 --> 02:23:40.559 on the edges tackle. Wise SO i, mean we got 2900 02:23:40.600 --> 02:23:43.600 a lot of great things that are that are coming 2901 02:23:43.639 --> 02:23:48.159 out for this season that, yes our last year was not, 2902 02:23:48.399 --> 02:23:51.360 us but, hey that that stuff, happens, Right and how 2903 02:23:51.360 --> 02:23:53.799 are we going to? Rebound how are we going to 2904 02:23:53.840 --> 02:23:56.200 come back from? That with Coach wit leading the leading 2905 02:23:56.200 --> 02:24:00.319 the charge And scalley on, defense and you, know with 2906 02:24:00.360 --> 02:24:04.520 the new, offense you, Know i'm drawing a blink of 2907 02:24:04.559 --> 02:24:07.600 the offensive, coordinator Which I'm i'll have to apologize. For, 2908 02:24:09.760 --> 02:24:13.239 Yes Coach beck who was obviously gracius enough to let 2909 02:24:13.280 --> 02:24:15.639 me be in the meetings and whatnot learn from, them 2910 02:24:15.719 --> 02:24:19.440 and you, KNOW i. AM i think we could be 2911 02:24:20.159 --> 02:24:25.399 an outstanding team and as long as we. Can it 2912 02:24:25.520 --> 02:24:28.440 just comes back to team, football, right protect the, football 2913 02:24:29.040 --> 02:24:31.719 be explosive on. OFFENSE i think that's going to happen 2914 02:24:32.319 --> 02:24:35.959 naturally with the quarterback with the element of running but 2915 02:24:36.040 --> 02:24:40.040 also extending, plays but just making sure that we're no matter, 2916 02:24:40.079 --> 02:24:42.159 what we protect the, football we score in the red. 2917 02:24:42.239 --> 02:24:46.040 Zone and we played great, defense which we. Will we 2918 02:24:46.040 --> 02:24:47.680 were going to be better than we were last year 2919 02:24:47.719 --> 02:24:50.879 on defense With scalley and the system and the guys 2920 02:24:50.879 --> 02:24:54.479 playing together and being. Healthy so, listen nobody on the 2921 02:24:54.520 --> 02:24:58.639 on the on the on the schedule worries me and 2922 02:24:58.840 --> 02:25:01.639 or tells and we can't beat if we go play great. 2923 02:25:01.680 --> 02:25:05.040 Football is there great teams on our, Schedule, yes but 2924 02:25:06.000 --> 02:25:07.959 we go play our style of, football we should be 2925 02:25:07.959 --> 02:25:09.040 able to be anyone on. 2926 02:25:09.120 --> 02:25:13.079 There all, right my, Guy, well thrilled for you and 2927 02:25:13.239 --> 02:25:16.200 we are optimistic about your chances and when that goes, 2928 02:25:16.239 --> 02:25:17.920 down we'd love to get you back on if not, 2929 02:25:18.000 --> 02:25:19.920 Sooner so enjoy the rest of the. 2930 02:25:19.920 --> 02:25:21.920 Week, Eric thanks for the, time, buddy be, well, okay 2931 02:25:23.159 --> 02:25:23.600 you got it. 2932 02:25:23.639 --> 02:25:24.840 Anytime thanks for having me, on. 2933 02:25:24.799 --> 02:25:28.360 Brother all, Right Eric Weddle Future hall Of, famer not 2934 02:25:28.479 --> 02:25:31.600 just in. 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Clue i've never heard of this. Person that 3007 02:28:59.319 --> 02:29:01.120 is a unique spell of a last. Name he's facing 3008 02:29:01.159 --> 02:29:04.120 three counts of, rape two counts of forcible, sodomy and 3009 02:29:04.159 --> 02:29:07.440 one count of object. Rape the alleged assault took Place 3010 02:29:07.520 --> 02:29:11.399 november sixteenth of last. Year the victim in the case 3011 02:29:11.440 --> 02:29:14.840 told police that she And bugaric that's How i'm gonna roll. 3012 02:29:14.879 --> 02:29:16.319 With we're at a bar with a group of. Friends 3013 02:29:16.799 --> 02:29:19.079 they went to his. House she did not want to 3014 02:29:19.120 --> 02:29:24.680 do the things that he. Initiated he has been. Suspended was. 3015 02:29:24.879 --> 02:29:28.479 Suspended so here's a statement from the athletic department at 3016 02:29:28.479 --> 02:29:31.159 THE u, quote we are aware of the criminal charges 3017 02:29:31.159 --> 02:29:34.399 filed against a men's tennis student. Athlete upon initially learning 3018 02:29:34.440 --> 02:29:37.799 In november of twenty twenty four of an accusation against 3019 02:29:37.840 --> 02:29:41.239 the student, athlete the athletics department immediately suspended the student. 3020 02:29:41.280 --> 02:29:44.639 Athlete In january of twenty twenty. Five when no charges 3021 02:29:44.680 --> 02:29:47.600 have been filed against the student, athlete the suspension was, 3022 02:29:47.639 --> 02:29:50.680 lifted with the condition that it would be reapplied should 3023 02:29:50.719 --> 02:29:53.479 the charges be. Filed in the, case we treat allegations 3024 02:29:54.079 --> 02:29:57.920 of significant misconduct very, seriously and the student athlete has been. 3025 02:29:58.200 --> 02:30:00.239 Suspended there you. 3026 02:30:00.280 --> 02:30:04.959 GO i guess was something that was public knowledge, earlier 3027 02:30:04.959 --> 02:30:07.319 But i'm just seeing it as we're wrapping up the. 3028 02:30:07.319 --> 02:30:11.000 Program All, right we got a Little Stanley cup playoffs 3029 02:30:11.000 --> 02:30:14.760 coming your way With edmonton And, florida a rematch of 3030 02:30:14.959 --> 02:30:17.840 last year's. Series if you are new to sport of, 3031 02:30:17.920 --> 02:30:23.840 hockey let me encourage you to, watch, listen. CONSUME i 3032 02:30:23.879 --> 02:30:27.239 think it's the best playoffs format that we. Have the 3033 02:30:27.239 --> 02:30:31.719 intensity is something that simply just is. Unmatched And i'm 3034 02:30:31.760 --> 02:30:34.479 hoping for a long, series And i'm hoping for some 3035 02:30:34.600 --> 02:30:37.600 game sevens because we didn't get many at, all in 3036 02:30:37.639 --> 02:30:41.799 fact zero in the conference finals Of pro basketball And pro. 3037 02:30:41.840 --> 02:30:47.040 Hockey would you Trade Karl Anthony towns For Kevin durant. 3038 02:30:49.840 --> 02:30:55.239 In twenty twenty, five twenty, Six, no almost any other 3039 02:30:55.799 --> 02:31:00.079 situation if you would have asked, me like last year. 3040 02:31:00.079 --> 02:31:01.879 Year or the year, before or the year before or 3041 02:31:01.920 --> 02:31:03.319 the year, before the year before the year. 3042 02:31:03.319 --> 02:31:08.079 Before, yes BUT i JUST i love me SOME. KD 3043 02:31:09.440 --> 02:31:13.000 i think he may have some good basketball. Left but 3044 02:31:13.399 --> 02:31:16.200 As Karl Anthony town, showed he's still a really good 3045 02:31:16.200 --> 02:31:19.479 piece on a really good. Team there are things about 3046 02:31:19.479 --> 02:31:24.760 his game that make him prone to match up issue 3047 02:31:24.799 --> 02:31:27.040 sometimes mainly on the defensive side of the. 3048 02:31:27.040 --> 02:31:28.159 Ball he doesn't guard at. 3049 02:31:28.159 --> 02:31:32.959 All, yeah it's, bad But Kevin durant's also not the 3050 02:31:34.040 --> 02:31:36.600 let's be, clear the kind of Defensive player of The 3051 02:31:36.639 --> 02:31:39.239 year candidate he was back In Golden. 3052 02:31:39.239 --> 02:31:43.799 State you know, what MAN i might do, THAT i 3053 02:31:43.879 --> 02:31:45.159 might Trade Ken cat For. 3054 02:31:45.239 --> 02:31:47.760 Durant, listen if you think you have one year to 3055 02:31:47.840 --> 02:31:51.280 go for, it like go for a, title go for. 3056 02:31:51.360 --> 02:31:55.840 IT i don't know that the roster The knicks have right, 3057 02:31:55.879 --> 02:32:02.239 now ADDING kd to, it you, know you probably make 3058 02:32:02.280 --> 02:32:05.680 a run next, year but that's. It it's over after, 3059 02:32:05.719 --> 02:32:09.239 that at least is that core is is, constructed and 3060 02:32:09.280 --> 02:32:12.120 then you're probably dealing with A kdi that maybe wants 3061 02:32:12.159 --> 02:32:14.840 another year or two on that, deal wants to drag it. 3062 02:32:14.879 --> 02:32:19.360 Out it seems and feels like to, me If Kevin 3063 02:32:19.440 --> 02:32:22.319 durant was with The, knicks he'd want an, extension and 3064 02:32:22.360 --> 02:32:25.120 then you're in a situation that's not just a you, 3065 02:32:25.120 --> 02:32:27.040 know one year rental to try to make a. 3066 02:32:27.120 --> 02:32:30.399 Run this is shaping up to be a wild off 3067 02:32:30.440 --> 02:32:33.760 season in THE. Nba, Dude, yes wild off. Season, yes 3068 02:32:33.760 --> 02:32:36.159 it is all. Right let's get out of. 3069 02:32:36.159 --> 02:32:39.079 Here hockey coming, Up Stanley cup finals coming, up don't 3070 02:32:39.079 --> 02:32:41.479 FORGET Nba finals, Tomorrow, porter what comes our way on 3071 02:32:41.559 --> 02:32:43.000 A thursday edition of the. 3072 02:32:43.040 --> 02:32:45.159 Show as you, mentioned we got some hockey coming up 3073 02:32:45.159 --> 02:32:48.239 on the show. Next we'll recap that tomorrow with our 3074 02:32:48.280 --> 02:32:52.639 Friend Belle, frasier talk a Little Utah mammoth offseason as, 3075 02:32:52.840 --> 02:32:56.159 well of, course the the top five pick in THE 3076 02:32:56.280 --> 02:32:57.520 Nhl draft. 3077 02:32:57.200 --> 02:32:58.159 And, more. 3078 02:32:59.799 --> 02:33:03.920 AND Nba Daily assist With dave. Mcminnimon we may double 3079 02:33:04.000 --> 02:33:08.159 up on OUR Nba Daily assist, tomorrow STILL tbd on 3080 02:33:08.159 --> 02:33:11.520 One Tim Bond. Temps hoping to chat with your guy 3081 02:33:11.680 --> 02:33:14.000 Mad Dog russo as. Well that may happen, Tomorrow that 3082 02:33:14.040 --> 02:33:17.159 may Happen. Friday some still some things in the works. 3083 02:33:17.280 --> 02:33:20.239 There we'll Have Sports court. Tomorrow Busy, thursday. 3084 02:33:19.920 --> 02:33:21.760 So join us for. That we'll say good night for 3085 02:33:21.840 --> 02:33:23.680 A wednesday. Show get out of the way for Some 3086 02:33:23.719 --> 02:33:26.520 Stanley Cup finals hockey. Special thank you today To Josh, 3087 02:33:26.559 --> 02:33:30.239 Furlong Andy, Larson Eric. Weddle you'd fans if you missed 3088 02:33:30.239 --> 02:33:32.920 THE ewb, interview it was really. Fun definitely check that 3089 02:33:32.959 --> 02:33:34.719 out and of course the Great Neil smith if you 3090 02:33:34.760 --> 02:33:37.799 missed any of the sound from the. SHOW espn seven 3091 02:33:37.879 --> 02:33:39.799 Hundred sports Dot com is where you. 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