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Speaker 2: By good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In
Speaker 2: today with me is Troy Hutchinson from goezycats dot Com.
Speaker 2: And now we have Kobe with a more veteran Kobe,
Speaker 2: I'll say, after a few games right now, you got
Speaker 2: a little more confidence. Yeah, just don't just don't shoot
Speaker 2: miss Nope, like you kill have an assister too, no turnovers,
Speaker 2: So okay, thank you, Kobe. I think we can be
Speaker 2: able to take some calls today. We figured out what
Speaker 2: could have been the problem yesterday the day before, So
Speaker 2: if you want to call us five to two zero
Speaker 2: four one, six seventy four forty. We had a pretty
Speaker 2: good show yesterday on a lot of levels. Talked to
Speaker 2: Bob Elliott and talk to Eric Rhodes from the Arizona
Speaker 2: Ball So if you'd like to give us a call
Speaker 2: on any of that, and then today we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about a few things. Still, basketball, women's basketball. You
Speaker 2: didn't go to the game, did you? Women's best. No, no,
Speaker 2: I didn't cads, you betteran what are you doing? You've
Speaker 2: given other simus to other people. Are you can like
Speaker 2: some interns that that get to go to some games?
Speaker 2: You know? Okay, cool, go cool? And the women won
Speaker 2: last night? It played well? What ten point victory? I
Speaker 2: guess yeah, yeah, did they play well? Or is it
Speaker 2: one of those Cincinnati games? Not really any city team
Speaker 2: to anything. It wins to win win. Thanks for the answer.
Speaker 2: That didn't answer my question. But okay, you know you
Speaker 2: left to right handed? Yes? What what?
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I mean, we'll see, we'll see how they
Speaker 3: said stack up the Big twelve.
Speaker 2: To be honest, it isn't what the packball.
Speaker 3: Was in the women's in the women's league, especially men's,
Speaker 3: it's better than what it was in the packwall. But
Speaker 3: arizonather gritty team, and can you stack up the wins
Speaker 3: that you need to and get those those wins that
Speaker 3: your favorite and because the teams that they've gone against
Speaker 3: where they were the underdog, it hasn't been close, so
Speaker 3: you need to stack up those victories.
Speaker 2: When the picked, do you remember where they we picked?
Speaker 2: They were fish nice, eighth or ninth? Okay, yeah, all right, well,
Speaker 2: so good, good for them. The one and win is
Speaker 2: a win, as to quote you, and that's good. That's fine.
Speaker 2: If you want to talk about them, we can call
Speaker 2: get a ticket call from from you guys if you
Speaker 2: want five to two O four six four forty men's basketball.
Speaker 2: Obviously either could play Saturday afternoon. WHEI ish one o'clock
Speaker 2: gives Colorado should win that game? Right? Oh? I think so.
Speaker 3: I mean Colorado when you look at it, Uh, they
Speaker 3: have some pieces, but they're clearly missing guys from last year.
Speaker 3: They're kind of in a rebuild. Red tool Arow of
Speaker 3: Colorado basketball. Dad Oil is a very good coach, but
Speaker 3: just that's.
Speaker 2: That's funny when you said that, because I was gonna
Speaker 2: throw the tag Boyle's name out there. He's a pretty
Speaker 2: good coach, but he hasn't really done much because he.
Speaker 3: I think he's done more than what people expected you
Speaker 3: could do at Colorado. Well that's why he's holding his jobs.
Speaker 3: I mean, what what what was there before him? I
Speaker 3: think they probably haven't been really good since John slips.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I just want to play they just
Speaker 2: want to play them in the tournament. I think they did. Uh,
Speaker 2: you toested it maybe not. Maybe they played Utah, they
Speaker 2: played you just take a round something there. They were
Speaker 2: halfway decent. I guess they're halfway decent now halfway decent,
Speaker 2: halfway decent.
Speaker 3: I mean they're usually consist in eighteen twenty one. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the tournament, Yeah, maybe you make a Sweet sixteen, right
Speaker 3: matchup Colorado? Maybe where did.
Speaker 2: You go to Pollyanna School? Yuh?
Speaker 3: The schedule, you know, but we haven't even gone through
Speaker 3: most of it. No, and I think some teams kind
Speaker 3: of underwhelmed that. Yeah, maybe we're a little bit better
Speaker 3: than what they were.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the first one really that was halfway decent
Speaker 2: was Baylor. Did they win last night or they would lose?
Speaker 2: I think they came back and won, came and yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, there's been a lot of really strange outcomes.
Speaker 2: Arkansas finally won one last night after going zero five
Speaker 2: in the league. Your guy Coler Parry tell Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I've been saying this, you know, I've been saying this
Speaker 2: for like a decade now, that he's the most overrated
Speaker 2: college coach in a round. And your guys Sean had
Speaker 2: a nice lead and then lost to Patino in overtime.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, It's kind of Sean's own entire coaching career.
Speaker 3: You have the lead, get a little conservative. The better
Speaker 3: coach that knows how to coach in game out coaches
Speaker 3: you and man and you're mad at the end of
Speaker 3: the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you see the post I didn't see anything.
Speaker 3: I did not I did not see the post game,
Speaker 3: but I saw the way that they played down that
Speaker 3: stretch and then the way that they played the overtime.
Speaker 2: Yeah did it?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, did it remind you of the
Speaker 2: Xavier game when they lost and they had that lead?
Speaker 3: And it reminds me of Xavier, kind of reminds me
Speaker 3: of Yukon, kind of reminds me of other games throughout
Speaker 3: Arizona's time with Sean Miller.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they've been so well. Tommy's done that a
Speaker 2: couple of times already for sure. Yeah, with maybe more
Speaker 2: talent early on than Sean had early I don't look
Speaker 2: this good all the time, Troy. I go to bed
Speaker 2: and wake up of looking at crap. So that's my
Speaker 2: my giving up ten to fifteen points. I don't know
Speaker 2: if that analogy fits, but that's what I used. Okay,
Speaker 2: So that's on our schedule. Today, I have Troy with me,
Speaker 2: have our guy Kobe, and at three fifteen we're not
Speaker 2: gonna do with three fifteen. We had a change. So
Speaker 2: at three point thirty, we're gonna have coach O'Brien from
Speaker 2: the Sunnyside soccer team boys soccer team with a fifteenth
Speaker 2: rank soccer team in the country, probably the best team
Speaker 2: in the state at any level. We'll see they were
Speaker 2: that way that last year. They fell in the semis
Speaker 2: or the quarterfinals last year. We'll see what he's up
Speaker 2: to this year because they're that good again. You know,
Speaker 2: heavy is the head, The heavy is the head. Where's
Speaker 2: the ground?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it seems like you're in and you're
Speaker 3: out there one of the premier soccer programs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do a great job over there. Yeah. Now
Speaker 2: guess what you get to win? Yeah, you gotta win.
Speaker 2: Great jobs are great jobs, but you gotta win or
Speaker 2: do deep beast like Arizona. You could go twenty five
Speaker 2: and five and whatever it is and not get deep
Speaker 2: into the tournament. What does it mean? Not a damn
Speaker 2: thing of the day, not a damn thing.
Speaker 3: And honestly, you kind of go through a season and
Speaker 3: I think Arizona fans are experiencing this right now. You're
Speaker 3: getting these we have some top twenty five wins. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: who cares?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What are you going to do come March? I
Speaker 2: think I talked about this a day or so ago. Uh,
Speaker 2: and you've been around long enough. Now where where Okay
Speaker 2: and Seana slot you win the PAC twelve tournament, You
Speaker 2: get a nice seed in the tournament, and then do
Speaker 2: halfway decent or not decent at all? And people, at
Speaker 2: least we want the PAC tweal tournament. I'm thinking, you're Arizona.
Speaker 2: Is that good? Is that what you want? No? No,
Speaker 2: of course not. You don't measure yourself by that. No.
Speaker 3: And you know what, It's funny early on this year
Speaker 3: I heard somebody say, well, now now a number one seed,
Speaker 3: the number two. See, we're not even I'm close to that,
Speaker 3: And so I asked some doesn't matter?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it done for you? Yeah? What is
Speaker 2: it done for Arizona? You sound like, are you my son? That?
Speaker 2: So you been listening to me? What's up with that? Well?
Speaker 3: I mean it's just like you're right, So you're right,
Speaker 3: I mean for seed, Houston kicks the crap out of Arizona.
Speaker 3: Then you have Exavier with the Shawn Miller area beats Arizona.
Speaker 3: Well Princeton, Princeton was whatever an eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, seeds don't really matter. If you're really good,
Speaker 2: you're really good and you'll find a way. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Uh they're bitching about seats. Yeah, well you have a
Speaker 2: do you have at your site? Do you have a
Speaker 2: which is go easy catch to come? Do you have
Speaker 2: a message board? We do have a message is active?
Speaker 2: It's active for football, a little bit less active for basketball.
Speaker 3: I think everybody's excited about Joe Salavea and then he
Speaker 3: assistant coaches coming in. You have all these offers going
Speaker 3: out in the state of Texas, California.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know Polynesian community.
Speaker 3: They're really excited about the football side of things right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's it's people can go to the board.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's active, but not that, not that.
Speaker 2: Not a lot of talk in the basketball A lot
Speaker 2: of talk in the floor. That's strange to me because
Speaker 2: basketball is the king in this time. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's just a weird thing where if the basketball team
Speaker 3: isn't doing what you want them to do, be it
Speaker 3: in top ten team. People are like this season is
Speaker 3: the disappointment?
Speaker 2: Who cares well? So I was just gonna ask you,
Speaker 2: what's the chatter and is there a lot of complaining
Speaker 2: going on?
Speaker 3: I think there's always complaining game in and game out.
Speaker 3: And the two complaints we hear most about our Caleb
Speaker 3: Love that he's not doing enough. Why did we recruit this?
Speaker 3: Play number two? And I think everybody gets this across
Speaker 3: the board is Trey Townsend? Where was that guy from
Speaker 3: Oakland again? Why did they recruit him? And what are
Speaker 3: we going to do in March at the end of
Speaker 3: the day. And I think a lot of Arizona fans
Speaker 3: that are on these websites understand that is what you
Speaker 3: do during the regular season doesn't matter in the postseason.
Speaker 3: Get to an elite eight with a shot to get
Speaker 3: to a Final four or legitimate shot if you have that.
Speaker 2: That's whereas in a basketball really should be Yeah, no
Speaker 2: question anything this year anything less than a what is
Speaker 2: a disappoint sweet sixteen? So if they get Sweet sixteen,
Speaker 2: lose and it'll be considered okay. No, I don't think
Speaker 2: it'll be considered okay. But given where they start, how
Speaker 2: they started the year in terms of four and five,
Speaker 2: and how discombobulated the team looked. I think that's a
Speaker 2: surprise that they were able to get that far. Show
Speaker 2: you that point, you're saying that the expectations were kind
Speaker 2: of lowered or I think calibrated.
Speaker 3: I think at the beginning of the excitations are lead
Speaker 3: a final four, but the roster you have their top
Speaker 3: ten team. But given the four and five start and
Speaker 3: how bad they looked offensively and how discombobulated they looked defensively,
Speaker 3: there are some people saying they're not going to make
Speaker 3: the tournament.
Speaker 2: So there was a time the.
Speaker 3: Way I said it, I mean, if you get to
Speaker 3: a sweet sixteen at that point, okay, they kind of
Speaker 3: figured it out.
Speaker 2: Let's se what they could do the following year. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: we'll see. We got two months from now. You know,
Speaker 2: they'll be in the second week or so, first week
Speaker 2: of the tournament by now. And I talked to you
Speaker 2: know you, I think I don't think you were there
Speaker 2: when to ask the question, you've spent two months watching
Speaker 2: what you have and saw what you have, What do
Speaker 2: you think is gonna happen next two months? Because it's
Speaker 2: that it was, And he said, I don't want to speculate.
Speaker 2: I'm not want to speculate. I said, okay, but but
Speaker 2: it is what it is. I mean, you've got to
Speaker 2: get better. They've got to get better. They look good
Speaker 2: in other days and some days. No. In fact, my
Speaker 2: guy Kobe said, what did you say to me when
Speaker 2: we first started the show? So they look good? And
Speaker 2: what I take the competition? Yeah, that they're playing was
Speaker 2: not great. Right, you played ball, did you? Yeah? Did
Speaker 2: you beat teams that you were supposed to beat? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Did you beat them bad? Yeah? What did you lose
Speaker 2: to teams you were supposed to That's that's what they are.
Speaker 2: And I don't know how far Oklahoma State is on
Speaker 2: the bottom of the league. I'd say the other the bottom.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, so of a very competitive league, but still
Speaker 3: nonetheless yeah, no, no, that's said.
Speaker 2: It beats the alternative. Yeah, yeah, where I think.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you have the wins against West Virginia and
Speaker 3: West Virginia's being Kansas, and ioway, stay, you have to
Speaker 3: win against Cincinnati. Cincinnati has gotten off on the slow start.
Speaker 3: I think in a traditional back twelve, Arizona sitting at
Speaker 3: the top of the back twelve. Right now, you are
Speaker 3: clearly behind Houston and Iowa State and it's not even close.
Speaker 3: And you can even though they're ahead of them, Kansas
Speaker 3: is a better basketball team.
Speaker 2: Right now, right, and they're kind of sketchy. I'm sure
Speaker 2: people if this show was in Kansas, people would be saying, Steve,
Speaker 2: what the hell is going on with this team? You
Speaker 2: know what? Oh? Yeah, this is now where are you
Speaker 2: used to I'm sure. I'm sure the fans, they're and
Speaker 2: everywhere else that follow a good team are up in arms,
Speaker 2: just like people here yeah and here there. They're up
Speaker 2: in arms when they losing. They're you know, their best
Speaker 2: friends when they're not losing. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But I think the difference is you're talking about teams
Speaker 3: that have won national championships within the last five years. Imagine, yeah, Kansas,
Speaker 3: North Carolina or Duke as in one in twenty years, right,
Speaker 3: and this is going on, Well you're saying twenty seven years,
Speaker 3: twenty seven but you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I totally agree, totally agree, because those are the blue bloods.
Speaker 2: Those are the guys that are normally they're chasing the title.
Speaker 2: There was one of kind of jabs that efforts with
Speaker 2: it every now and again. Yeah, Okay, we got about
Speaker 2: a minute or so, Kobe. Yeah, we're not gonna have
Speaker 2: a We're not gonna have our guests. At three fifteen,
Speaker 2: we're gonna go directly to our Quebec do our show.
Speaker 2: And then at the three forty hour we'll talk to
Speaker 2: coach O'Brian from from Sunnyside. And then at the four
Speaker 2: fifteen hour, four to seventeen hour, we're gonna talk to PJ.
Speaker 2: Brown talk about women's Basketball's covers the team for a
Speaker 2: long time. We'll see her Pollyanna approach to this team
Speaker 2: because she's very she's very positive about what she sees.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, looking at women's basketball, I think it's
Speaker 3: clear that there are these top teams in the Big twelve.
Speaker 3: I always state Kansas State, you know, TCU top top teams,
Speaker 3: and then there's the fall off and Arizon. This in
Speaker 3: that falloff group where they're near you know, Cincinnati, they're near,
Speaker 3: they're near the middle of the bottom. In the middle
Speaker 3: that the top of the bottom, the.
Speaker 2: Twelve of the twelve, the twelve.
Speaker 3: That's six seven eight, that's not bad, but the ones
Speaker 3: above them are super Utah. I always state West Virginia,
Speaker 3: Kansas State, you know, Yeah, that they have difference makers TCU.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there as one as young you know they are,
Speaker 2: but they're kind of the same problems that they've have
Speaker 2: yearn and you're out. We'll talk to her about that.
Speaker 2: We'll see kind of her response to that and see
Speaker 2: what you know, idea has to go through and or
Speaker 2: deals with because you know, there's a lot of things
Speaker 2: going on, people coming on, coming off the roster. Okay, cool,
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Speaker 2: Well here on Fox Sport fifty, I'm Steve Rivera. You're
Speaker 2: Troy Hutchinson. Hi, Yes, goasy Cats, And we have Kobe
Speaker 2: with us handling the mics for us. Thank you, Kobe. Hey,
Speaker 2: if you want to call fire two four, one, six,
Speaker 2: seventour forty, if you had a chance, give us a call,
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Speaker 2: today and this will be the time that we can
Speaker 2: have open phones. We have a guest here after this
Speaker 2: next segment, just go back to talking about basketball. Uh,
Speaker 2: do you how would you how would you grade Caleb
Speaker 2: season to this point? And see the go ahead answer that,
Speaker 2: and then I'll ask you that the next question.
Speaker 3: You know, if you had to think of a guy
Speaker 3: that needed to be the guy on the team, it
Speaker 3: would probably be Caleb Love with this roster and they
Speaker 3: kind of built it for him and he's had his
Speaker 3: ups and downs, and to be honest, I would give
Speaker 3: him a C plus a minus, yeah.
Speaker 2: Because because you expect more from him.
Speaker 3: You expect more from a guy that's been a Conference
Speaker 3: Player of the Year, has played how much basketball he
Speaker 3: has and has been a consistent score throughout his career,
Speaker 3: where his scoring numbers have dropped this season.
Speaker 2: Right right, I wonder, I wonder, well, he scored more
Speaker 2: than twenty four hundred points. So there goes to yours.
Speaker 2: Can I see Rosinari, mister I love, mister Love, and
Speaker 2: sure you've scored twenty four hundred points, you ust have
Speaker 2: a pretty good score percentage? Well, yes, yes, just not
Speaker 2: this year because he's scored a lot of points obviously,
Speaker 2: but they come in weird sequences. What before the last
Speaker 2: five six games, a few and double figures maybe four,
Speaker 2: but the ones when he's got five or six, it's
Speaker 2: kind of like, what the hell, what did this happen?
Speaker 3: And if he doesn't start off the game hot, scored
Speaker 3: in the first you know, I want to say, eight
Speaker 3: of the first fifteen points something like that, you probably
Speaker 3: won't see him the rest of the game.
Speaker 2: And it's an issue. He disappears physically and mentally.
Speaker 3: He stands in the corner, which I think is one
Speaker 3: thing that they've been trying to solve, is having him
Speaker 3: play off the ball and moving without the basketball. I
Speaker 3: think he's gotten better throughout the season at that, but
Speaker 3: you're still seeing times where hey, he only has six
Speaker 3: points and he took thirteen shots to get to those
Speaker 3: six points.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, And then you see those great games, you think, oh,
Speaker 2: that's the guy, and you don't hear anybody complaining, Oh,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, here he is finally well.
Speaker 3: And you know, we've seen Arizona fans on the message
Speaker 3: board to go like, oh, that's that's a great game,
Speaker 3: But what is he going to do next time?
Speaker 2: Out right?
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, why doesn't matter? You need to do this consistently. Sure,
Speaker 3: And I think that's I think that's the most frustrating barner,
Speaker 3: not only for Arizona fans, but college basketball fans going
Speaker 3: back to North Carolina. This guy can be a star
Speaker 3: on the court when he when he's locked when he can't, Yeah,
Speaker 3: when he can be, But when it's going bad, it's
Speaker 3: going really.
Speaker 2: Right, right, I would assume that, I would assume. I
Speaker 2: don't know, because I haven't talked to any of the
Speaker 2: NBA guys, but that's the issue. It's one of the
Speaker 2: issues that he has. He's not locked in, you know
Speaker 2: for forty minutes, and I uh, and.
Speaker 3: That's an issue, and I think one of one of
Speaker 3: the major issues too, is when he's not going well
Speaker 3: and you're seeing those six points of thirteen shots, seven
Speaker 3: of those thirteen shots are from beyond the arc. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's over seven, oh for six. Stop shooting it well.
Speaker 3: And then if you're not shooting it, you need to
Speaker 3: do other things.
Speaker 2: Attack the bucket, attack it, do the assist passes and
Speaker 2: all that other stuff. It's because to me, uh, and
Speaker 2: I've court the team for a long time, and I
Speaker 2: don't remember a guy like him. Maybe Trier a little
Speaker 2: who had the ball in his hands a lot, but
Speaker 2: he's pose Trier, which, okay, how that go not very
Speaker 2: least he played in the NBA, Well we won't know. Well,
Speaker 2: we we won't know. And but he almost didn't play
Speaker 2: in the NBA. He impressed one team and they signed
Speaker 2: him and then he was in for a year and
Speaker 2: then he was gone because he didn't know how to
Speaker 2: share the ball.
Speaker 3: But I think that goes to it's not an opinion
Speaker 3: of love, just his realisticness of playing that I don't
Speaker 3: think he will play in them.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I get that. I think he'll get
Speaker 2: a nice summer job with them, and maybe if he
Speaker 2: gets hot, can do it. But to me. And when
Speaker 2: he's the I guess maybe a month or so ago
Speaker 2: he was the eighty fourth best team player in the NBA,
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, okay, and then you have who Carter
Speaker 2: Bryant is probably the better one, best one, kJ Lewis,
Speaker 2: Henry Vasar maybe drawing more interests maybe yeah, maybe, and
Speaker 2: then JB. There's there's four, right, And I think that's
Speaker 2: about it. But it's no surprise. It's no surprise. He
Speaker 2: just has to be Caleb Love, you know, fifteen to twenty,
Speaker 2: no stupid turnovers, five rebounds, six assists, yeah something like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: three is this whatever? But just kind of get close
Speaker 2: to twenty efficiently. Do you think that the requirements that
Speaker 2: Tommy put on him, whatever they were, you know, because
Speaker 2: you know he said, we always talk, we always talk,
Speaker 2: and they wanted to change his game before this season started.
Speaker 2: Not so many shots, you know, be be efficient, don't
Speaker 2: you know, throw up a bunch of twenty twenty shut games,
Speaker 2: move without the basketball in your hand. Do you think
Speaker 2: that affected him? Oh? For sure.
Speaker 3: You're you're asking somebody to do something that they don't do. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're asking him to play more light. So for me,
Speaker 3: the comparison would be a if you asked a Derrick
Speaker 3: Rose type of player where he always has the ball
Speaker 3: in his hands, to play like Klay Thompson, to play
Speaker 3: without the ball ball trying trying to move around screens
Speaker 3: and get open and stay active without the basketball in
Speaker 3: your hands.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think Derrek Ors could do that, and I
Speaker 3: don't think Caleb Love could do that. He's getting better
Speaker 3: at it, Yeah, but it's still a struggle.
Speaker 2: Well, you're running out of time. You agree with that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I agree with that.
Speaker 10: I think ca Love's best when he has the ball
Speaker 10: in his hands and driving to the rim.
Speaker 2: He's not an off the ball type player.
Speaker 3: No, but I think for the better man of the team,
Speaker 3: you needed him off the ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course that's who he is. It should be.
Speaker 2: You don't need twenty five shots.
Speaker 4: No, no.
Speaker 2: No. The guy that that's good and bad a lot
Speaker 2: of there's a lot of guys on this team that
Speaker 2: are good and then bad and then good again is
Speaker 2: Dolorso he's kind of he's the catch and shoot guy
Speaker 2: if he has to kind of dribble and shoot, dribble,
Speaker 2: stop shot. He's not very good, but he's a he's
Speaker 2: a catch and shoot guy, and when he does that
Speaker 2: more often hes shooting in little less than fifty percent
Speaker 2: I think it is. But but when he doesn't do
Speaker 2: the catch and shoot, he's not gonna make this shot. No,
Speaker 2: it's kind of just having a body out there. If
Speaker 2: he's not if he's not.
Speaker 3: Catching shooting, yeah, it's kind having a Okay, somebody kind
Speaker 3: of compared him to the other day Dylan Uh not
Speaker 3: Dylan Anderson, Dylan Smith kind of catch and shoot. But
Speaker 3: if he's Jill Smith from uh the transfer that Sean
Speaker 3: got his last.
Speaker 2: Couple of years.
Speaker 3: God, Okay, Well, if if you don't remember him, you
Speaker 3: don't remember no Dylan, No, No, they called him Anaheim Dylan.
Speaker 3: He had that big, big tournament in non conference in Anaheim.
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm getting old. I don't remember.
Speaker 3: But anyway, if he's dribbling, you're worried. It's not just
Speaker 3: a catching. It's like, what did you how did you
Speaker 3: describe him before this? He's that guy that's another body
Speaker 3: or what.
Speaker 2: Do you say if he's not shooting, he's just another
Speaker 2: Well okay, okay, Now Townsend was like that. More often
Speaker 2: they have a lot of dudes like that. Yeah, if
Speaker 2: you're not doing well, you're just another body and they
Speaker 2: have only eight nine bodies.
Speaker 3: If you're not doing what you're specifically good at doing,
Speaker 3: you can't give me more outside of that.
Speaker 2: Well, Townsend was that guy until this last game. Townsend's
Speaker 2: been that guy.
Speaker 3: Waka has been that guy, Caleb Love has been that guy.
Speaker 2: Del Rosso has been that guy, and to a degree,
Speaker 2: kJ Lewis has been that guy because he disappears too.
Speaker 2: I mean you need him to be who he is. Yes,
Speaker 2: athletic dude gets the basket and does a lot of things.
Speaker 3: That starts everything on the defensive end. I think when
Speaker 3: he's going right defensively, that's when kJ Lewis starts playing
Speaker 3: well offensively, when you get him ramped up on the
Speaker 3: defensive end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I already got my senior moment in text. I
Speaker 2: don't know who you're talking about, Dylan, Dylan whomever, Anaheim whomever,
Speaker 2: Tucson Steve. I have no idea you can come out
Speaker 2: to google him out to break. Yeah, so you agree
Speaker 2: with all that, Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 10: Dolorso is great for stretching the floor, which helps a
Speaker 10: lot actually, but.
Speaker 2: He's got to hit shots.
Speaker 3: And he's got to take shots. I think there's been
Speaker 3: a couple of games this year where it's been like
Speaker 3: three shots one for three from deep for three points,
Speaker 3: maybe five points, and a remount throw up some shot.
Speaker 2: Well, here's another thing. On the other side of the ball.
Speaker 2: You have to defend. He's not a good defender, neither
Speaker 2: is a Townsend. Yeah. So there you lose what you
Speaker 2: gain on offense, maybe you lose a lot on defense
Speaker 2: for sure. True, very true.
Speaker 3: And you know that's that's one thing about Tommy Lloyd
Speaker 3: that he gets criticized for as the head coach is
Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball isn't always stellar. I
Speaker 3: think he's Their defenses have been solid, but it's not
Speaker 3: that same Sean miller As style defensively. So if you're
Speaker 3: not getting anything offensively from that side of the ball,
Speaker 3: then what are you doing right?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: And then Tommy and Tommy obviously needs that, but he's
Speaker 2: more of an offensive guy.
Speaker 3: I mean, so, for example, Steve Nash, if he's not
Speaker 3: dropping dimes and shooting the basketball, well, well you're not
Speaker 3: having Steve Nash out there to play defense.
Speaker 2: So no, yeah, you better do what you do well
Speaker 2: or or your liability. Yeah, yeah, no question. What else?
Speaker 2: And this team is full of that. There's no real
Speaker 2: I don't know this year, there's no real superstar.
Speaker 3: There's no Ben Mathern out there and to a degree,
Speaker 3: and I always thought when he was the best player
Speaker 3: on the court, it wasn't. I had a problem because
Speaker 3: I think if your big is the best player, you
Speaker 3: have an issue. Is there's no Zuela Stabellas either. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and he disappeared in the later half of that season
Speaker 3: as well. But who I mean if there was a game,
Speaker 3: I mean it would be Caleb Love. But there's a
Speaker 3: game trailing or up by one possession, who's all going to?
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know if I'd go him, but I'll
Speaker 2: go with him or to whatever. There's not that one
Speaker 2: guy that you trust, No, no, But if there's a
Speaker 2: guy that I would trust more than anybody, it would
Speaker 2: be Jaden.
Speaker 3: I agree, get get him and clear cleared out. But
Speaker 3: do you really think Caleb Loves gonna give James and
Speaker 3: the ball?
Speaker 2: Well, it's me would maybe maybe maybe it's like a
Speaker 2: twenty chance. Maybe because if Caleb is not shooting the ball,
Speaker 2: well you saying get out of there and get out
Speaker 2: of his way, because he could create, get to the
Speaker 2: basket or stop and pop or find, you know, do
Speaker 2: the things that you and I sat next to each
Speaker 2: other last year's thay. No, you know he's got his
Speaker 2: head down to go to the basket and hopefully he
Speaker 2: gets bolved. Yeah, and most of the time that happened,
Speaker 2: but he didn't know that he had dudes on the piphery.
Speaker 2: He's gotten better at that, well, no question. No, I
Speaker 2: don't know where this team would be without him as
Speaker 2: a point guard. Yah, because they he's kind of had
Speaker 2: a he's had a very good season without having a
Speaker 2: very good season. And I know that makes no sense,
Speaker 2: but he's exactly what this team needs because it needs
Speaker 2: him blown off age, right, But but but he's great
Speaker 2: for this team. Not very efficient.
Speaker 3: Yeah, every night you look, he has around eleven to
Speaker 3: fourteen points. Yeah, six or seven shots, four or five
Speaker 3: assists with like one turnover.
Speaker 2: Well, here here's the thing. You have kJ you have Jaden,
Speaker 2: you have you have Caleb. If if I'm not saying
Speaker 2: it will happen, but I think it could happen the
Speaker 2: next maybe two times, the next ten twelve games where
Speaker 2: they all play together. Well, and you were saying holdly
Speaker 2: crap and then everyone get all happy again. I mean
Speaker 2: you a had and I said this before the season,
Speaker 2: and maybe I was guilty of being over zealous, Uh, Bibby, Simon,
Speaker 2: Terry Dickerson, And you can put just three of those
Speaker 2: in interchangem because they're all interchangeable. And you had kJ,
Speaker 2: jb and and Caleb pretty good three, not not to
Speaker 2: the level of those guys, but the best three some
Speaker 2: probably since that time where you could you know, saying
Speaker 2: since And I'm just because Seawn's time to me was
Speaker 2: just whatever he had. He had Johnson, and he had
Speaker 2: McConnell and who's your three guy, Gordon?
Speaker 3: In terms of offensively, yeah, I agree, I agree, But yeah,
Speaker 3: I because I was thinking of the five or the
Speaker 3: Salim style or Hassan, Adams, Shannon and Fry that No.
Speaker 2: Because Hassan was what he was, he was more of
Speaker 2: before than he was or three, and and McClellan was not.
Speaker 2: Who's not that guy? But he used to be the
Speaker 2: guy that he got hurt. So no, I still stand
Speaker 2: by that that offensively and defensive because that Miles and
Speaker 2: Bibby and and JT. And they were not defenders, they
Speaker 2: were creators and this team could have that. The thing
Speaker 2: about it is what if they get hot at that
Speaker 2: right time and you're thinking, you know where everyone's gonna say, oh,
Speaker 2: we knew this, it was possible all the time, and
Speaker 2: kind of except that you got to start showing it
Speaker 2: at East in glimpses.
Speaker 3: And again, this is across college basketball. The main issue
Speaker 3: is those guys had time to develop throughout the years together.
Speaker 3: Outside of Bibby, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right where
Speaker 3: these guys okay, two years and that's considered a veteran group.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so yeah, no, you're right. They spent a
Speaker 2: lot of time together, a lot of basketball. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: Bibby was kind of like the catalyst.
Speaker 3: And I kind of asked Tommy that at the beginning
Speaker 3: of the season in terms of, Okay, you have these
Speaker 3: three really good guards coming back. But now and yes,
Speaker 3: they played together last year, but now they're in the
Speaker 3: starting lineup, how is that cohesion gonna work? And he said, well,
Speaker 3: they played together last year. We're not worried about that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: but they weren't starting together last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the dynamics of her, We'll see what happens. I mean,
Speaker 2: they're capable of doing something. You just got to catch fire.
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Speaker 2: money to put my walt. So all those factors are factors, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: So collected me and colected this back court.
Speaker 3: But and you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: I think you look at college basketball and it's the
Speaker 3: veteran groups that still win Yukon back to back national championship.
Speaker 3: They've had veteran groups along the way. Kansas when they won,
Speaker 3: veteran group. North Carolina got there with a veteran group.
Speaker 2: Well, no one, No one's that team anymore. No, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know Clark saw I look at any Yeah, and
Speaker 2: he's a weird good coach.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he's a weird that's a great way
Speaker 3: well to me. And again, Bruce Pearl might be a
Speaker 3: little bit better, but that Sean Miller, Bruce Pearl, Tennessee
Speaker 3: coach Rick Barnes, Yeah, kind of all in the same category.
Speaker 2: They can't win the big game. Oh yeah, right good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And to his credit, the Pearl has gone to the
Speaker 2: Final four, and so Rick Barnes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Rick didn't get there with Kevin Garnett. No,
Speaker 3: I mean Kevin Durant. Bruce Pearl couldn't get there with Tennessee,
Speaker 3: with Tennessee when he had all those great teams.
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Speaker 2: Bavara and with me today is Troy Hutchinson. And now
Speaker 2: when to po have Sunnyside Boys soccer coach. Coach O'Brien,
Speaker 2: how what are you, coach?
Speaker 15: I'm doing very well, Sarah.
Speaker 16: How are you today?
Speaker 2: We're doing fine. You guys are doing really well with
Speaker 2: what a couple of three weeks left? How much how
Speaker 2: much time you have?
Speaker 15: Yes, sir, so we got two weeks left starting next week,
Speaker 15: we got five games, five home games, and then we'll
Speaker 15: be headed into the playoffs after that.
Speaker 2: Let me just remind everybody last year you were one
Speaker 2: of the best teams in the state, if not the
Speaker 2: best teams in the in the state. At the higher
Speaker 2: higher level. You were in the rankings of the of
Speaker 2: the state, of the national national rankings. How did that
Speaker 2: help you? Even though what happened happened to get ready
Speaker 2: for this year.
Speaker 15: So, I think last year was kind of a chance
Speaker 15: for us to get back to kind.
Speaker 16: Of where we were prior to COVID.
Speaker 15: I think that two years ago we were so sawid,
Speaker 15: kind of built ourselves back up, and then last year
Speaker 15: I think we were able to compete with anybody in
Speaker 15: the state. Obviously we saw a little short in the quarterfinals,
Speaker 15: but you know, we ended the year right number one
Speaker 15: and then number sixty nationally. So I think It just
Speaker 15: kind of gave us that confidence that Sunnyside was back
Speaker 15: and that, you know, going into this year, we were
Speaker 15: just a little bit more hungry to finish off the
Speaker 15: season better than we did last year.
Speaker 3: You know, when you get that far and losing that
Speaker 3: type of game and have those moments as the program.
Speaker 3: I know from covering at least high school football in
Speaker 3: high school basketball here locally, a lot of those teams
Speaker 3: when they welcome back a lot of the players and
Speaker 3: similar faces for the next season, that's the talk usually
Speaker 3: of the offseason as you're preparing for the year and
Speaker 3: kind of remembering that game, at least the players getting
Speaker 3: ready for that. Was it like that for you guys
Speaker 3: in terms of that hunger, that drive thinking about that game.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think it's one of the things that we
Speaker 15: talked about quite a bit at the beginning of the year,
Speaker 15: and you're right, it is something as a coach that
Speaker 15: you want to remind the kids of of you know
Speaker 15: that we tell short and obviously there's some things we
Speaker 15: could do a little bit better and we will do
Speaker 15: them better.
Speaker 16: This year, which I think we've done a good job
Speaker 16: of just that.
Speaker 15: And then you know, getting back to the standard of
Speaker 15: really what we want Sunnyside Soccer to be. I mean,
Speaker 15: it is the top program in the state and we
Speaker 15: want to finish back at the top, and I think
Speaker 15: those two things have really motivated the kids this year.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Casey Obrian. The Sunnyside Boys High School
Speaker 2: a very good soccer team. So let me ask you
Speaker 2: just if we can remind the listeners of who you are,
Speaker 2: because what you've been doing here at Sunnyside is not
Speaker 2: by accident, because you guys have been very good. Give
Speaker 2: me your background and how you got to be where
Speaker 2: you're at.
Speaker 15: Okay, so what we're talking about myself, I'm not really
Speaker 15: the biggest, biggest fan, but yeah, so I've been the
Speaker 15: head coach at Sunnyside. This is my ninth season. We've
Speaker 15: been a playoff team all nine years. Obviously, we've had
Speaker 15: winning records all nine years. In twenty eighteen nineteen we
Speaker 15: want to state title.
Speaker 16: We went underfeed.
Speaker 15: It's actually probably one of the best seasons Arizona Soccer's
Speaker 15: ever had because we beat the six A state champs,
Speaker 15: we won the five A title, we beat the four
Speaker 15: A state champs, and we beat the runner up from
Speaker 15: both conferences as well. So the year after that we
Speaker 15: were a state runner up team. We only lost two games.
Speaker 15: One was to a really big school and Los Angeles
Speaker 15: that was a really like a premiere program, and then
Speaker 15: the second one was in the title game. And again
Speaker 15: we finished top twenty five nationally. The year prior we
Speaker 15: were top four in the main nation. Yeah, it's been
Speaker 15: a good run at to any side. COVID knocked this
Speaker 15: down a little bit. We were a semi finalist team
Speaker 15: the COVID year and then we've been kind of building back.
Speaker 15: Last year we were at number one seed in six
Speaker 15: A and we fell short in the quarterfinals. Right now
Speaker 15: we're the number one seed in the Open and the
Speaker 15: six A. I along the way have been a state
Speaker 15: coach of the Year, West Coast Region Coach of the Year.
Speaker 15: That's a national honor, and you know it's just some
Speaker 15: other things kind of that was picked up along the journey.
Speaker 2: Very very nice. I'm assuming that some of these kids,
Speaker 2: some of them, many of them have moved on after
Speaker 2: they finished with you, maybe Pima or somewhere else because
Speaker 2: I know, well, and then we'll talk about the kid
Speaker 2: you have now that scores goal all the goals.
Speaker 15: Yes, yes, sir. So the kids that have gone on.
Speaker 15: Last year's class was a really good class. We had
Speaker 15: a kid signed at Saint Mary's, which is a Division
Speaker 15: one school in California. He started about maybe like a
Speaker 15: third of the year as a true freshman last year
Speaker 15: for them, and then we have a starter on Pima
Speaker 15: from this year.
Speaker 16: We've had quite a few of the kids from.
Speaker 15: The national championship team at PEMA from four or five
Speaker 15: years ago. We've had kids scattered throughout the country. Typically
Speaker 15: they'll go to Pima Yava Pie. We've had a couple
Speaker 15: of quite a few kids actually go into California. So
Speaker 15: we've been on a good job of promoting and right
Speaker 15: now we have five seniors with offers, so we're trying
Speaker 15: to continue doing that, get the kids to the next
Speaker 15: level and really give them.
Speaker 16: An opportunity to grow and earn a degree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good for you, Great for you.
Speaker 3: It turns out the recruiting and you know, you were
Speaker 3: saying mostly Pema ya Api and stuff like that, How
Speaker 3: have you seen a progress since the point where you
Speaker 3: got there nine years ago to where it is today
Speaker 3: in terms of the national recognition from colleges across the country.
Speaker 2: For the Sunnyside.
Speaker 15: So when I first got there, that's interesting to think about.
Speaker 15: I couldn't sell a player to anybody. You know, there
Speaker 15: was just I guess we weren't really on the radar.
Speaker 16: Maybe a lack of discipline, a lack of results.
Speaker 15: I'm not really sure what it was.
Speaker 16: But our first.
Speaker 15: Year, I couldn't get anybody out the door anywhere, even
Speaker 15: though we did have.
Speaker 16: A pretty good team.
Speaker 15: And then our second year, when we continue to have
Speaker 15: success and people started and noticed like that we had
Speaker 15: a lot of structure and discipline in our program. We
Speaker 15: were able to get a kid named Brian Tumasera to Pima,
Speaker 15: and he actually was a starter in day one there,
Speaker 15: and he kind of just broke through for us ever
Speaker 15: since he went to Tema, and we could kind of
Speaker 15: use him as a reference, and then you know, we
Speaker 15: could reference our results and how we were doing.
Speaker 16: Coaches are really interested to take our call.
Speaker 15: I thought to a coach from Nebraska today, talked to
Speaker 15: a couple of coaches from California this week, just you know,
Speaker 15: and they're really interested because I think our profile is
Speaker 15: pretty strong right now, and you know, you just mentioned
Speaker 15: that you're a top team in the Nation and.
Speaker 16: Their years perk up pretty quick.
Speaker 15: So it really is opening doors for our kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm used to seeing because my kids played back
Speaker 2: in the day at Foothills and the CDO and and
Speaker 2: you know South Point do those names you know, you know,
Speaker 2: Wolfgang does a tremendous job. Cosgroup does a triminous stub people.
Speaker 2: So do many of your kids are at the club level
Speaker 2: play for I guess I have see twoson maybe it
Speaker 2: was TSA before or do they stick with you? What's
Speaker 2: how does that work?
Speaker 15: Yeah, so a few of them do play at that
Speaker 15: CE Tucson, a couple of player at a couple other
Speaker 15: local club teams. But we we train year round and
Speaker 15: I think we have like pretty much an in house
Speaker 15: club system. So I mean, I would say almost sixty
Speaker 15: percent of our kids, maybe seventy just play at Sunnyside,
Speaker 15: just train at Sunnyside with me, And I mean we're
Speaker 15: on We're on the field pretty much all day every day.
Speaker 15: Today we already trained three times today. We had a workout,
Speaker 15: a lift in the morning, we hit the field in
Speaker 15: the morning, and then this afternoon we had another training session.
Speaker 15: And that's pretty typical of you know, all year, So
Speaker 15: I think what we provide a Sunnyside really does get
Speaker 15: the kids ready for the next level, just because they're training,
Speaker 15: you know, very systematically and we're building them there. So
Speaker 15: we call her and the off season, we actually do
Speaker 15: have our own kind of club system called south Side
Speaker 15: f Sea and a lot of the kids play for
Speaker 15: that team as well.
Speaker 2: Do you play against those teams that I mentioned the
Speaker 2: the FC two songs and maybe go on the road
Speaker 2: a little we have.
Speaker 15: We don't go on the road because we just typically
Speaker 15: try to keep it in house, try to keep it
Speaker 15: at Sunnyside because a lot of the kids don't really
Speaker 15: have a ton of support to get away from the campus.
Speaker 15: It's kind of hard to organize in the off season,
Speaker 15: so we keep everything pretty local and those teams typically will.
Speaker 16: Travel because we can give them some pretty good competition.
Speaker 13: Sure.
Speaker 2: Sure, no, you'd be the first guy we call, Hey,
Speaker 2: we want to get better? Can you play us? Yeah?
Speaker 16: And I'll feel that call instantly.
Speaker 15: Man.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 15: It's great for the kids, you know, they have a
Speaker 15: lot of pride. I think when they play at Sunnyside,
Speaker 15: even when it is club, they're just you know, they
Speaker 15: really do take it means a lot to them. So
Speaker 15: it's really fun to have teams that come and it's
Speaker 15: cool to have that reputation. Well though even you know,
Speaker 15: want to think of us. It's pretty cool to be
Speaker 15: in that conversation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how much do you because you mentioned, you know,
Speaker 3: having the the the south Side Club team, how much
Speaker 3: do you think that having the one voice, the one
Speaker 3: this is how we do it has helped not only
Speaker 3: your program on Sunnyside, but these kids move on to
Speaker 3: colleges and being trained by one voice the proper way
Speaker 3: and not having so many coaches and so many different
Speaker 3: player people talking to them and leorrying about well this
Speaker 3: coach likes it this way and this coach likes it
Speaker 3: this way.
Speaker 15: Yeah, it helps. We have a super intense environment. It's
Speaker 15: super super competitive. It's uber competitive, to be honest. So
Speaker 15: I think that just the training conditions that we have
Speaker 15: and the expectations of the way that we train in
Speaker 15: the way that we practice, and the way we condition
Speaker 15: it just it.
Speaker 16: Really does lead the kids to success because it's it's.
Speaker 15: A pretty relentless grind, and I mean, our goal is
Speaker 15: to get the kids to the next level, so we're
Speaker 15: not necessarily training as a high school team, We're really
Speaker 15: trying to train.
Speaker 16: The kids as athletes.
Speaker 15: We rate, we rate, we rate trained probably more than
Speaker 15: any other soccer team, you know. And I mean we're
Speaker 15: running constantly, And I think just giving them those tools,
Speaker 15: you know, and and teaching them that discipline and that
Speaker 15: work ethic really does prepare them for the next level.
Speaker 15: And I guess it's good to have one voice more
Speaker 15: consistently than anything else, just because that's the only way
Speaker 15: that they know. So you know, they don't slack off,
Speaker 15: they're not lazy. They love the work hard because they
Speaker 15: don't really know anything else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. Going back to the question I
Speaker 2: had before with the kid who's scoring all the points. Uh,
Speaker 2: I forgot his name. I saw on TV. I guess
Speaker 2: yesterday or the day before. But he must be a stud.
Speaker 15: Uh. Yeah, he's definitely a stud. Last year he was
Speaker 15: six A Conference Offensive Player of the Year, which in
Speaker 15: Tucson is pretty much unheard of for anybody to get
Speaker 15: a six A recognition like that. He's the first kid
Speaker 15: that I know of that's been ranked or had that
Speaker 15: kind of an accolade to sixth A. Last year, he
Speaker 15: led the state in points assists. I think he was
Speaker 15: second in goals number eight nationally actually last year in
Speaker 15: points scored, which is a combination of goals and assists.
Speaker 16: This year he leads the state and assists.
Speaker 15: He's second in goals and he's second in points. And
Speaker 15: he's making a really strong case to be the six
Speaker 15: A Player of the Year this year. And I think
Speaker 15: probably should be the conversation for Gatorade Player of the Year,
Speaker 15: which I think he was runner up last year. Angel Bacamants, Toledo.
Speaker 2: So I'm sure that you've gotten a lot of calls about.
Speaker 15: Him, Yes, sir, Yeah, we've gotten a lot of calls
Speaker 15: about him. He's probably going to go the junior college route,
Speaker 15: if not try to bypass college altogether. It's just kind
Speaker 15: of he wants to grow and mature a little bit more.
Speaker 15: He's really coming into his own, Lady. It's kind of
Speaker 15: like a more reserved kid.
Speaker 16: This year.
Speaker 15: He's really gotten more confident in himself and started believing
Speaker 15: in himself.
Speaker 16: So I think, you know, he wants to.
Speaker 15: Keep on going, but he wants to try to do
Speaker 15: something a little bit smaller where he can continue to
Speaker 15: grow his mentality and his mindset, and you know, his habits,
Speaker 15: and I think he's going to really flourish this summer.
Speaker 15: He should have an opportunity to play with the sets
Speaker 15: on men's team, which is a USL two team. I
Speaker 15: think he has a strong shot at getting some really
Speaker 15: good playing time there as well. So I think he's
Speaker 15: about to take off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have no question. We all know the history
Speaker 2: of the wrestling program. Very strong, obviously very successful, and
Speaker 2: their kids go to college and thrive as well. There's
Speaker 2: other programs there at Sunnyside that have done really well.
Speaker 2: I'm sure the parents love you because of what you've
Speaker 2: done for the kids, and they love you because you're
Speaker 2: helping them get an education beyond high school.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, well I hope they love me. I
Speaker 15: mean I'm around their kids quite a bit, and I
Speaker 15: mean I'm trying to teach them, you know, the right things.
Speaker 15: Like I said, it is a really intense competitive environment,
Speaker 15: so it can be a little bit daunting at the beginning.
Speaker 15: I think some parents are kind of taken aback by,
Speaker 15: you know, the intensity with the way that we approach everything.
Speaker 15: But you know, the basically what I tell them is
Speaker 15: that the kids come here and they can be successful here.
Speaker 15: You really can translate that to life, because right, you know,
Speaker 15: we set a goal and instead of just thinking about
Speaker 15: it and dreaming about it, we just worked for it
Speaker 15: and every single day. And that's what I've learned from
Speaker 15: the wrestling program, to be honest with you, is that
Speaker 15: they say what their goal is and instead of just
Speaker 15: talking about it all year, they just go to work
Speaker 15: every day and they work out three four times a
Speaker 15: day all summer, all year. And what I learned from
Speaker 15: that program is like, if you have a goal, you
Speaker 15: better be able to back it up with your work.
Speaker 15: And I think the parents see that, and they see
Speaker 15: their kids blossom and grow and become more confident and
Speaker 15: start talking about college, probably more than they've talked about before.
Speaker 15: And I think that they like that the ideas on
Speaker 15: their mind and that they're on the path. So that
Speaker 15: so I think I gained their respect very early on
Speaker 15: in the process.
Speaker 3: Sure, you know, at the at the beginning of this interview,
Speaker 3: you mentioned that you had some things last year that
Speaker 3: you guys needed to clean up, especially in that quarterfinal game,
Speaker 3: that you worked on during the offseason, and you've seen
Speaker 3: results from that. What were those things that you guys
Speaker 3: tried to clean up as a team.
Speaker 15: So, like speaking of from a soccer perspective, one of
Speaker 15: the big things, you know, and everybody will always harp
Speaker 15: on scoring goals and finishing, but we truly did have
Speaker 15: an issue with that, just scoring on certain sequences and plays,
Speaker 15: and so this year we focused on it and it's
Speaker 15: become actually a strength, which is really cool to turn
Speaker 15: something that was a weakness into his strength this year,
Speaker 15: talking more, being more positive, having better leadership on the team,
Speaker 15: not just coming from me. Those are all kinds of
Speaker 15: things that we needed to clean up this year and
Speaker 15: it's really rounding in the form right now. And I
Speaker 15: think that the kids kind of, like you said previously,
Speaker 15: saying that so much in the off season about how
Speaker 15: we fell short makes the kids actually want to fix
Speaker 15: those things and change them, and they've done a great
Speaker 15: job of doing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you have any games? You got five left?
Speaker 2: Do you think regular season?
Speaker 16: Yes, sir, we got five regular season games left.
Speaker 15: On Tuesday, we go to San Luis, who's been in
Speaker 15: the six eight title game. I want to say three
Speaker 15: out of the last four years, they've been a runner
Speaker 15: up all three times. But it's one of the top
Speaker 15: programs in the state. First time I'll ever play them,
Speaker 15: so we're really excited for that one.
Speaker 2: Well, good luck to the rest of the way. Coach,
Speaker 2: we've been talking to you.
Speaker 16: When you win it, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 15: Thank you guys for having me. I appreciate your time.
Speaker 2: Sure, thank you. Same here. Let's take a break. What
Speaker 2: a great what a great school, what a good program.
Speaker 2: Let's take a break and come back with the breaking news.