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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 1>in sure your most prized possessions.

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<v Speaker 2>By good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball

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<v Speaker 2>here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In

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<v Speaker 2>today with me is Troy Hutchinson from goezycats dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>And now we have Kobe with a more veteran Kobe,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say, after a few games right now, you got

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<v Speaker 2>a little more confidence. Yeah, just don't just don't shoot

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<v Speaker 2>miss Nope, like you kill have an assister too, no turnovers,

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, thank you, Kobe. I think we can be

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<v Speaker 2>able to take some calls today. We figured out what

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<v Speaker 2>could have been the problem yesterday the day before, So

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to call us five to two zero

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<v Speaker 2>four one, six seventy four forty. We had a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good show yesterday on a lot of levels. Talked to

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<v Speaker 2>Bob Elliott and talk to Eric Rhodes from the Arizona

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<v Speaker 2>Ball So if you'd like to give us a call

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<v Speaker 2>on any of that, and then today we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about a few things. Still, basketball, women's basketball. You

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<v Speaker 2>didn't go to the game, did you? Women's best. No, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't cads, you betteran what are you doing? You've

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<v Speaker 2>given other simus to other people. Are you can like

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<v Speaker 2>some interns that that get to go to some games?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? Okay, cool, go cool? And the women won

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<v Speaker 2>last night? It played well? What ten point victory? I

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<v Speaker 2>guess yeah, yeah, did they play well? Or is it

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<v Speaker 2>one of those Cincinnati games? Not really any city team

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<v Speaker 2>to anything. It wins to win win. Thanks for the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>That didn't answer my question. But okay, you know you

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<v Speaker 2>left to right handed? Yes? What what?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, I mean, we'll see, we'll see how they

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<v Speaker 3>said stack up the Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, it isn't what the packball.

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<v Speaker 3>Was in the women's in the women's league, especially men's,

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<v Speaker 3>it's better than what it was in the packwall. But

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<v Speaker 3>arizonather gritty team, and can you stack up the wins

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<v Speaker 3>that you need to and get those those wins that

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<v Speaker 3>your favorite and because the teams that they've gone against

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<v Speaker 3>where they were the underdog, it hasn't been close, so

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<v Speaker 3>you need to stack up those victories.

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<v Speaker 2>When the picked, do you remember where they we picked?

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<v Speaker 2>They were fish nice, eighth or ninth? Okay, yeah, all right, well,

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<v Speaker 2>so good, good for them. The one and win is

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<v Speaker 2>a win, as to quote you, and that's good. That's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to talk about them, we can call

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<v Speaker 2>get a ticket call from from you guys if you

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<v Speaker 2>want five to two O four six four forty men's basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously either could play Saturday afternoon. WHEI ish one o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>gives Colorado should win that game? Right? Oh? I think so.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean Colorado when you look at it, Uh, they

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<v Speaker 3>have some pieces, but they're clearly missing guys from last year.

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<v Speaker 3>They're kind of in a rebuild. Red tool Arow of

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<v Speaker 3>Colorado basketball. Dad Oil is a very good coach, but

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<v Speaker 3>just that's.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny when you said that, because I was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>throw the tag Boyle's name out there. He's a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good coach, but he hasn't really done much because he.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's done more than what people expected you

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<v Speaker 3>could do at Colorado. Well that's why he's holding his jobs.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, what what what was there before him? I

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<v Speaker 3>think they probably haven't been really good since John slips.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess I just want to play they just

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<v Speaker 2>want to play them in the tournament. I think they did. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you toested it maybe not. Maybe they played Utah, they

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<v Speaker 2>played you just take a round something there. They were

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<v Speaker 2>halfway decent. I guess they're halfway decent now halfway decent,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they're usually consist in eighteen twenty one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the tournament, Yeah, maybe you make a Sweet sixteen, right

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<v Speaker 3>matchup Colorado? Maybe where did.

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<v Speaker 2>You go to Pollyanna School? Yuh?

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<v Speaker 3>The schedule, you know, but we haven't even gone through

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<v Speaker 3>most of it. No, and I think some teams kind

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<v Speaker 3>of underwhelmed that. Yeah, maybe we're a little bit better

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<v Speaker 3>than what they were.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So the first one really that was halfway decent

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<v Speaker 2>was Baylor. Did they win last night or they would lose?

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<v Speaker 2>I think they came back and won, came and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's been a lot of really strange outcomes.

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<v Speaker 2>Arkansas finally won one last night after going zero five

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<v Speaker 2>in the league. Your guy Coler Parry tell Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been saying this, you know, I've been saying this

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<v Speaker 2>for like a decade now, that he's the most overrated

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<v Speaker 2>college coach in a round. And your guys Sean had

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<v Speaker 2>a nice lead and then lost to Patino in overtime.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, It's kind of Sean's own entire coaching career.

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<v Speaker 3>You have the lead, get a little conservative. The better

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<v Speaker 3>coach that knows how to coach in game out coaches

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<v Speaker 3>you and man and you're mad at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, did you see the post I didn't see anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not I did not see the post game,

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<v Speaker 3>but I saw the way that they played down that

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<v Speaker 3>stretch and then the way that they played the overtime.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah did it?

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<v Speaker 1>Huh?

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, did it remind you of the

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<v Speaker 2>Xavier game when they lost and they had that lead?

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<v Speaker 3>And it reminds me of Xavier, kind of reminds me

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<v Speaker 3>of Yukon, kind of reminds me of other games throughout

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona's time with Sean Miller.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, they've been so well. Tommy's done that a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of times already for sure. Yeah, with maybe more

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<v Speaker 2>talent early on than Sean had early I don't look

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<v Speaker 2>this good all the time, Troy. I go to bed

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<v Speaker 2>and wake up of looking at crap. So that's my

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<v Speaker 2>my giving up ten to fifteen points. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if that analogy fits, but that's what I used. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's on our schedule. Today, I have Troy with me,

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<v Speaker 2>have our guy Kobe, and at three fifteen we're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do with three fifteen. We had a change. So

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<v Speaker 2>at three point thirty, we're gonna have coach O'Brien from

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<v Speaker 2>the Sunnyside soccer team boys soccer team with a fifteenth

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<v Speaker 2>rank soccer team in the country, probably the best team

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<v Speaker 2>in the state at any level. We'll see they were

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<v Speaker 2>that way that last year. They fell in the semis

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<v Speaker 2>or the quarterfinals last year. We'll see what he's up

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<v Speaker 2>to this year because they're that good again. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>heavy is the head, The heavy is the head. Where's

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<v Speaker 2>the ground?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know it seems like you're in and you're

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<v Speaker 3>out there one of the premier soccer programs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they do a great job over there. Yeah. Now

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<v Speaker 2>guess what you get to win? Yeah, you gotta win.

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<v Speaker 2>Great jobs are great jobs, but you gotta win or

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<v Speaker 2>do deep beast like Arizona. You could go twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>and five and whatever it is and not get deep

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<v Speaker 2>into the tournament. What does it mean? Not a damn

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<v Speaker 2>thing of the day, not a damn thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And honestly, you kind of go through a season and

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<v Speaker 3>I think Arizona fans are experiencing this right now. You're

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<v Speaker 3>getting these we have some top twenty five wins. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>who cares?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? What are you going to do come March? I

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<v Speaker 2>think I talked about this a day or so ago. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and you've been around long enough. Now where where Okay

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<v Speaker 2>and Seana slot you win the PAC twelve tournament, You

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<v Speaker 2>get a nice seed in the tournament, and then do

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<v Speaker 2>halfway decent or not decent at all? And people, at

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<v Speaker 2>least we want the PAC tweal tournament. I'm thinking, you're Arizona.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that good? Is that what you want? No? No,

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<v Speaker 2>of course not. You don't measure yourself by that. No.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what, It's funny early on this year

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<v Speaker 3>I heard somebody say, well, now now a number one seed,

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<v Speaker 3>the number two. See, we're not even I'm close to that,

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<v Speaker 3>And so I asked some doesn't matter?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what is it done for you? Yeah? What is

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<v Speaker 2>it done for Arizona? You sound like, are you my son? That?

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<v Speaker 2>So you been listening to me? What's up with that? Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's just like you're right, So you're right,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean for seed, Houston kicks the crap out of Arizona.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you have Exavier with the Shawn Miller area beats Arizona.

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<v Speaker 3>Well Princeton, Princeton was whatever an eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, seeds don't really matter. If you're really good,

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<v Speaker 2>you're really good and you'll find a way. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Uh they're bitching about seats. Yeah, well you have a

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<v Speaker 2>do you have at your site? Do you have a

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<v Speaker 2>which is go easy catch to come? Do you have

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<v Speaker 2>a message board? We do have a message is active?

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<v Speaker 2>It's active for football, a little bit less active for basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>I think everybody's excited about Joe Salavea and then he

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<v Speaker 3>assistant coaches coming in. You have all these offers going

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<v Speaker 3>out in the state of Texas, California.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, you know Polynesian community.

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<v Speaker 3>They're really excited about the football side of things right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's it's people can go to the board.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, it's active, but not that, not that.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a lot of talk in the basketball A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of talk in the floor. That's strange to me because

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<v Speaker 2>basketball is the king in this time. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a weird thing where if the basketball team

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<v Speaker 3>isn't doing what you want them to do, be it

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<v Speaker 3>in top ten team. People are like this season is

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<v Speaker 3>the disappointment?

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<v Speaker 2>Who cares well? So I was just gonna ask you,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the chatter and is there a lot of complaining

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's always complaining game in and game out.

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<v Speaker 3>And the two complaints we hear most about our Caleb

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<v Speaker 3>Love that he's not doing enough. Why did we recruit this?

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<v Speaker 3>Play number two? And I think everybody gets this across

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<v Speaker 3>the board is Trey Townsend? Where was that guy from

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<v Speaker 3>Oakland again? Why did they recruit him? And what are

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<v Speaker 3>we going to do in March at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the day. And I think a lot of Arizona fans

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<v Speaker 3>that are on these websites understand that is what you

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<v Speaker 3>do during the regular season doesn't matter in the postseason.

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<v Speaker 3>Get to an elite eight with a shot to get

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<v Speaker 3>to a Final four or legitimate shot if you have that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's whereas in a basketball really should be Yeah, no

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<v Speaker 2>question anything this year anything less than a what is

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<v Speaker 2>a disappoint sweet sixteen? So if they get Sweet sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>lose and it'll be considered okay. No, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be considered okay. But given where they start, how

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<v Speaker 2>they started the year in terms of four and five,

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<v Speaker 2>and how discombobulated the team looked. I think that's a

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<v Speaker 2>surprise that they were able to get that far. Show

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<v Speaker 2>you that point, you're saying that the expectations were kind

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<v Speaker 2>of lowered or I think calibrated.

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<v Speaker 3>I think at the beginning of the excitations are lead

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<v Speaker 3>a final four, but the roster you have their top

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<v Speaker 3>how bad they looked offensively and how discombobulated they looked defensively,

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<v Speaker 3>there are some people saying they're not going to make

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<v Speaker 2>So there was a time the.

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<v Speaker 3>Way I said it, I mean, if you get to

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<v Speaker 2>in other days and some days. No. In fact, my

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<v Speaker 3>And you can even though they're ahead of them, Kansas

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, right, and they're kind of sketchy. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>people if this show was in Kansas, people would be saying, Steve,

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<v Speaker 3>But I think the difference is you're talking about teams

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<v Speaker 2>I totally agree, totally agree, because those are the blue bloods.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the guys that are normally they're chasing the title.

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<v Speaker 2>There was one of kind of jabs that efforts with

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<v Speaker 2>long time. We'll see her Pollyanna approach to this team

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<v Speaker 2>because she's very she's very positive about what she sees.

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<v Speaker 3>I always state Kansas State, you know, TCU top top teams,

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<v Speaker 2>season to this point? And see the go ahead answer that,

420
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<v Speaker 2>and then I'll ask you that the next question.

421
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<v Speaker 3>You know, if you had to think of a guy

422
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<v Speaker 3>that needed to be the guy on the team, it

423
00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:30.400
<v Speaker 3>would probably be Caleb Love with this roster and they

424
00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:32.839
<v Speaker 3>kind of built it for him and he's had his

425
00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:36.160
<v Speaker 3>ups and downs, and to be honest, I would give

426
00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:39.039
<v Speaker 3>him a C plus a minus, yeah.

427
00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:41.319
<v Speaker 2>Because because you expect more from him.

428
00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:43.759
<v Speaker 3>You expect more from a guy that's been a Conference

429
00:19:43.759 --> 00:19:46.119
<v Speaker 3>Player of the Year, has played how much basketball he

430
00:19:46.200 --> 00:19:49.880
<v Speaker 3>has and has been a consistent score throughout his career,

431
00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:52.359
<v Speaker 3>where his scoring numbers have dropped this season.

432
00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:54.799
<v Speaker 2>Right right, I wonder, I wonder, well, he scored more

433
00:19:54.799 --> 00:19:57.440
<v Speaker 2>than twenty four hundred points. So there goes to yours.

434
00:19:57.519 --> 00:20:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Can I see Rosinari, mister I love, mister Love, and

435
00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:06.039
<v Speaker 2>sure you've scored twenty four hundred points, you ust have

436
00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:09.559
<v Speaker 2>a pretty good score percentage? Well, yes, yes, just not

437
00:20:09.640 --> 00:20:12.480
<v Speaker 2>this year because he's scored a lot of points obviously,

438
00:20:13.039 --> 00:20:17.440
<v Speaker 2>but they come in weird sequences. What before the last

439
00:20:17.480 --> 00:20:20.200
<v Speaker 2>five six games, a few and double figures maybe four,

440
00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:22.519
<v Speaker 2>but the ones when he's got five or six, it's

441
00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:24.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of like, what the hell, what did this happen?

442
00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:27.519
<v Speaker 3>And if he doesn't start off the game hot, scored

443
00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:29.680
<v Speaker 3>in the first you know, I want to say, eight

444
00:20:29.720 --> 00:20:32.680
<v Speaker 3>of the first fifteen points something like that, you probably

445
00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:33.960
<v Speaker 3>won't see him the rest of the game.

446
00:20:34.519 --> 00:20:37.279
<v Speaker 2>And it's an issue. He disappears physically and mentally.

447
00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:40.160
<v Speaker 3>He stands in the corner, which I think is one

448
00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:42.680
<v Speaker 3>thing that they've been trying to solve, is having him

449
00:20:42.680 --> 00:20:45.720
<v Speaker 3>play off the ball and moving without the basketball. I

450
00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:48.920
<v Speaker 3>think he's gotten better throughout the season at that, but

451
00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:51.759
<v Speaker 3>you're still seeing times where hey, he only has six

452
00:20:51.799 --> 00:20:54.200
<v Speaker 3>points and he took thirteen shots to get to those

453
00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:54.839
<v Speaker 3>six points.

454
00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:58.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, And then you see those great games, you think, oh,

455
00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:01.240
<v Speaker 2>that's the guy, and you don't hear anybody complaining, Oh,

456
00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:04.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, here he is finally well.

457
00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:06.920
<v Speaker 3>And you know, we've seen Arizona fans on the message

458
00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:08.880
<v Speaker 3>board to go like, oh, that's that's a great game,

459
00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:10.880
<v Speaker 3>But what is he going to do next time?

460
00:21:10.920 --> 00:21:11.279
<v Speaker 2>Out right?

461
00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:15.160
<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, why doesn't matter? You need to do this consistently. Sure,

462
00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:17.920
<v Speaker 3>And I think that's I think that's the most frustrating barner,

463
00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:20.599
<v Speaker 3>not only for Arizona fans, but college basketball fans going

464
00:21:20.599 --> 00:21:23.480
<v Speaker 3>back to North Carolina. This guy can be a star

465
00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:26.039
<v Speaker 3>on the court when he when he's locked when he can't, Yeah,

466
00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:28.559
<v Speaker 3>when he can be, But when it's going bad, it's

467
00:21:28.559 --> 00:21:29.559
<v Speaker 3>going really.

468
00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, right, I would assume that, I would assume. I

469
00:21:32.039 --> 00:21:33.440
<v Speaker 2>don't know, because I haven't talked to any of the

470
00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:35.799
<v Speaker 2>NBA guys, but that's the issue. It's one of the

471
00:21:35.839 --> 00:21:38.839
<v Speaker 2>issues that he has. He's not locked in, you know

472
00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:40.839
<v Speaker 2>for forty minutes, and I uh, and.

473
00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:42.960
<v Speaker 3>That's an issue, and I think one of one of

474
00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:45.920
<v Speaker 3>the major issues too, is when he's not going well

475
00:21:46.079 --> 00:21:49.400
<v Speaker 3>and you're seeing those six points of thirteen shots, seven

476
00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:52.119
<v Speaker 3>of those thirteen shots are from beyond the arc. Yeah,

477
00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:55.319
<v Speaker 3>it's over seven, oh for six. Stop shooting it well.

478
00:21:55.559 --> 00:21:58.119
<v Speaker 3>And then if you're not shooting it, you need to

479
00:21:58.119 --> 00:21:58.759
<v Speaker 3>do other things.

480
00:21:58.799 --> 00:22:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Attack the bucket, attack it, do the assist passes and

481
00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:06.519
<v Speaker 2>all that other stuff. It's because to me, uh, and

482
00:22:06.599 --> 00:22:08.400
<v Speaker 2>I've court the team for a long time, and I

483
00:22:08.440 --> 00:22:11.400
<v Speaker 2>don't remember a guy like him. Maybe Trier a little

484
00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:13.519
<v Speaker 2>who had the ball in his hands a lot, but

485
00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:18.319
<v Speaker 2>he's pose Trier, which, okay, how that go not very

486
00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:22.359
<v Speaker 2>least he played in the NBA, Well we won't know. Well,

487
00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:25.039
<v Speaker 2>we we won't know. And but he almost didn't play

488
00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:27.559
<v Speaker 2>in the NBA. He impressed one team and they signed

489
00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:28.920
<v Speaker 2>him and then he was in for a year and

490
00:22:28.920 --> 00:22:30.920
<v Speaker 2>then he was gone because he didn't know how to

491
00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:31.440
<v Speaker 2>share the ball.

492
00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:34.519
<v Speaker 3>But I think that goes to it's not an opinion

493
00:22:34.519 --> 00:22:37.640
<v Speaker 3>of love, just his realisticness of playing that I don't

494
00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:38.680
<v Speaker 3>think he will play in them.

495
00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:40.200
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I get that. I think he'll get

496
00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:43.000
<v Speaker 2>a nice summer job with them, and maybe if he

497
00:22:43.039 --> 00:22:45.720
<v Speaker 2>gets hot, can do it. But to me. And when

498
00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:47.720
<v Speaker 2>he's the I guess maybe a month or so ago

499
00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:51.200
<v Speaker 2>he was the eighty fourth best team player in the NBA,

500
00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:54.799
<v Speaker 2>and I'm thinking, okay, and then you have who Carter

501
00:22:54.839 --> 00:22:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Bryant is probably the better one, best one, kJ Lewis,

502
00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.319
<v Speaker 2>Henry Vasar maybe drawing more interests maybe yeah, maybe, and

503
00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:07.079
<v Speaker 2>then JB. There's there's four, right, And I think that's

504
00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:10.000
<v Speaker 2>about it. But it's no surprise. It's no surprise. He

505
00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:12.599
<v Speaker 2>just has to be Caleb Love, you know, fifteen to twenty,

506
00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:18.920
<v Speaker 2>no stupid turnovers, five rebounds, six assists, yeah something like yeah, yeah,

507
00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:21.680
<v Speaker 2>three is this whatever? But just kind of get close

508
00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:25.400
<v Speaker 2>to twenty efficiently. Do you think that the requirements that

509
00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:28.119
<v Speaker 2>Tommy put on him, whatever they were, you know, because

510
00:23:28.160 --> 00:23:30.240
<v Speaker 2>you know he said, we always talk, we always talk,

511
00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:33.160
<v Speaker 2>and they wanted to change his game before this season started.

512
00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Not so many shots, you know, be be efficient, don't

513
00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:40.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, throw up a bunch of twenty twenty shut games,

514
00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:42.000
<v Speaker 2>move without the basketball in your hand. Do you think

515
00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:43.480
<v Speaker 2>that affected him? Oh? For sure.

516
00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:47.440
<v Speaker 3>You're you're asking somebody to do something that they don't do. Yeah,

517
00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:50.799
<v Speaker 3>you're asking him to play more light. So for me,

518
00:23:50.880 --> 00:23:53.559
<v Speaker 3>the comparison would be a if you asked a Derrick

519
00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:56.079
<v Speaker 3>Rose type of player where he always has the ball

520
00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:59.119
<v Speaker 3>in his hands, to play like Klay Thompson, to play

521
00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:02.000
<v Speaker 3>without the ball ball trying trying to move around screens

522
00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:04.720
<v Speaker 3>and get open and stay active without the basketball in

523
00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:05.200
<v Speaker 3>your hands.

524
00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:06.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

525
00:24:06.039 --> 00:24:08.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't think Derrek Ors could do that, and I

526
00:24:08.119 --> 00:24:10.880
<v Speaker 3>don't think Caleb Love could do that. He's getting better

527
00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:12.599
<v Speaker 3>at it, Yeah, but it's still a struggle.

528
00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, you're running out of time. You agree with that, Yeah,

529
00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:16.720
<v Speaker 2>I agree with that.

530
00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:19.279
<v Speaker 10>I think ca Love's best when he has the ball

531
00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:21.359
<v Speaker 10>in his hands and driving to the rim.

532
00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:23.119
<v Speaker 2>He's not an off the ball type player.

533
00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:26.720
<v Speaker 3>No, but I think for the better man of the team,

534
00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:27.920
<v Speaker 3>you needed him off the ball.

535
00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:30.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course that's who he is. It should be.

536
00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:32.279
<v Speaker 2>You don't need twenty five shots.

537
00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:32.359
<v Speaker 4>No, no.

538
00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:34.920
<v Speaker 2>No. The guy that that's good and bad a lot

539
00:24:34.920 --> 00:24:36.240
<v Speaker 2>of there's a lot of guys on this team that

540
00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:38.640
<v Speaker 2>are good and then bad and then good again is

541
00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:41.079
<v Speaker 2>Dolorso he's kind of he's the catch and shoot guy

542
00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:43.200
<v Speaker 2>if he has to kind of dribble and shoot, dribble,

543
00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:45.480
<v Speaker 2>stop shot. He's not very good, but he's a he's

544
00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:47.519
<v Speaker 2>a catch and shoot guy, and when he does that

545
00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:49.440
<v Speaker 2>more often hes shooting in little less than fifty percent

546
00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:52.039
<v Speaker 2>I think it is. But but when he doesn't do

547
00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:54.319
<v Speaker 2>the catch and shoot, he's not gonna make this shot. No,

548
00:24:54.400 --> 00:24:57.440
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of just having a body out there. If

549
00:24:57.440 --> 00:24:58.480
<v Speaker 2>he's not if he's not.

550
00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:02.279
<v Speaker 3>Catching shooting, yeah, it's kind having a Okay, somebody kind

551
00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:05.240
<v Speaker 3>of compared him to the other day Dylan Uh not

552
00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Dylan Anderson, Dylan Smith kind of catch and shoot. But

553
00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:12.880
<v Speaker 3>if he's Jill Smith from uh the transfer that Sean

554
00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:13.680
<v Speaker 3>got his last.

555
00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Couple of years.

556
00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:18.799
<v Speaker 3>God, Okay, Well, if if you don't remember him, you

557
00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:22.599
<v Speaker 3>don't remember no Dylan, No, No, they called him Anaheim Dylan.

558
00:25:22.599 --> 00:25:26.160
<v Speaker 3>He had that big, big tournament in non conference in Anaheim.

559
00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Dude, I'm getting old. I don't remember.

560
00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:33.079
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, if he's dribbling, you're worried. It's not just

561
00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:36.119
<v Speaker 3>a catching. It's like, what did you how did you

562
00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:39.079
<v Speaker 3>describe him before this? He's that guy that's another body

563
00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:39.319
<v Speaker 3>or what.

564
00:25:39.240 --> 00:25:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Do you say if he's not shooting, he's just another

565
00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Well okay, okay, Now Townsend was like that. More often

566
00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:46.799
<v Speaker 2>they have a lot of dudes like that. Yeah, if

567
00:25:46.839 --> 00:25:48.960
<v Speaker 2>you're not doing well, you're just another body and they

568
00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:50.440
<v Speaker 2>have only eight nine bodies.

569
00:25:50.839 --> 00:25:53.400
<v Speaker 3>If you're not doing what you're specifically good at doing,

570
00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:55.839
<v Speaker 3>you can't give me more outside of that.

571
00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:58.759
<v Speaker 2>Well, Townsend was that guy until this last game. Townsend's

572
00:25:58.759 --> 00:25:59.200
<v Speaker 2>been that guy.

573
00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:03.039
<v Speaker 3>Waka has been that guy, Caleb Love has been that guy.

574
00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:06.039
<v Speaker 2>Del Rosso has been that guy, and to a degree,

575
00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:08.839
<v Speaker 2>kJ Lewis has been that guy because he disappears too.

576
00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:11.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean you need him to be who he is. Yes,

577
00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:14.680
<v Speaker 2>athletic dude gets the basket and does a lot of things.

578
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:17.240
<v Speaker 3>That starts everything on the defensive end. I think when

579
00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:20.599
<v Speaker 3>he's going right defensively, that's when kJ Lewis starts playing

580
00:26:20.599 --> 00:26:22.759
<v Speaker 3>well offensively, when you get him ramped up on the

581
00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:23.400
<v Speaker 3>defensive end.

582
00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I already got my senior moment in text. I

583
00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:32.279
<v Speaker 2>don't know who you're talking about, Dylan, Dylan whomever, Anaheim whomever,

584
00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:37.359
<v Speaker 2>Tucson Steve. I have no idea you can come out

585
00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:40.519
<v Speaker 2>to google him out to break. Yeah, so you agree

586
00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:43.039
<v Speaker 2>with all that, Yeah, I agree with that.

587
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:46.480
<v Speaker 10>Dolorso is great for stretching the floor, which helps a

588
00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:47.519
<v Speaker 10>lot actually, but.

589
00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:52.720
<v Speaker 2>He's got to hit shots.

590
00:26:50.680 --> 00:26:52.519
<v Speaker 3>And he's got to take shots. I think there's been

591
00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:54.119
<v Speaker 3>a couple of games this year where it's been like

592
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:56.920
<v Speaker 3>three shots one for three from deep for three points,

593
00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.000
<v Speaker 3>maybe five points, and a remount throw up some shot.

594
00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, here's another thing. On the other side of the ball.

595
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:05.359
<v Speaker 2>You have to defend. He's not a good defender, neither

596
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:09.160
<v Speaker 2>is a Townsend. Yeah. So there you lose what you

597
00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:12.279
<v Speaker 2>gain on offense, maybe you lose a lot on defense

598
00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:14.799
<v Speaker 2>for sure. True, very true.

599
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:18.440
<v Speaker 3>And you know that's that's one thing about Tommy Lloyd

600
00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:20.519
<v Speaker 3>that he gets criticized for as the head coach is

601
00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:24.319
<v Speaker 3>the defensive side of the ball isn't always stellar. I

602
00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:27.200
<v Speaker 3>think he's Their defenses have been solid, but it's not

603
00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:31.480
<v Speaker 3>that same Sean miller As style defensively. So if you're

604
00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:33.960
<v Speaker 3>not getting anything offensively from that side of the ball,

605
00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:37.319
<v Speaker 3>then what are you doing right?

606
00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:37.960
<v Speaker 4>Right?

607
00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:40.720
<v Speaker 2>And then Tommy and Tommy obviously needs that, but he's

608
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:41.799
<v Speaker 2>more of an offensive guy.

609
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:44.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, so, for example, Steve Nash, if he's not

610
00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:48.559
<v Speaker 3>dropping dimes and shooting the basketball, well, well you're not

611
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:50.440
<v Speaker 3>having Steve Nash out there to play defense.

612
00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:53.279
<v Speaker 2>So no, yeah, you better do what you do well

613
00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:59.240
<v Speaker 2>or or your liability. Yeah, yeah, no question. What else?

614
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:02.799
<v Speaker 2>And this team is full of that. There's no real

615
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:06.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't know this year, there's no real superstar.

616
00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:11.000
<v Speaker 3>There's no Ben Mathern out there and to a degree,

617
00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:13.720
<v Speaker 3>and I always thought when he was the best player

618
00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:15.480
<v Speaker 3>on the court, it wasn't. I had a problem because

619
00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:16.960
<v Speaker 3>I think if your big is the best player, you

620
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:20.759
<v Speaker 3>have an issue. Is there's no Zuela Stabellas either. Yeah,

621
00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:23.200
<v Speaker 3>and he disappeared in the later half of that season

622
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:26.599
<v Speaker 3>as well. But who I mean if there was a game,

623
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:28.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean it would be Caleb Love. But there's a

624
00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:32.240
<v Speaker 3>game trailing or up by one possession, who's all going to?

625
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:35.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't know if I'd go him, but I'll

626
00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:39.000
<v Speaker 2>go with him or to whatever. There's not that one

627
00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:41.240
<v Speaker 2>guy that you trust, No, no, But if there's a

628
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<v Speaker 2>guy that I would trust more than anybody, it would

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<v Speaker 2>be Jaden.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree, get get him and clear cleared out. But

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<v Speaker 3>do you really think Caleb Loves gonna give James and

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<v Speaker 3>the ball?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's me would maybe maybe maybe it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>twenty chance. Maybe because if Caleb is not shooting the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>well you saying get out of there and get out

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<v Speaker 2>of his way, because he could create, get to the

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<v Speaker 2>basket or stop and pop or find, you know, do

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<v Speaker 2>the things that you and I sat next to each

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<v Speaker 2>other last year's thay. No, you know he's got his

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<v Speaker 2>head down to go to the basket and hopefully he

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<v Speaker 2>gets bolved. Yeah, and most of the time that happened,

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<v Speaker 2>but he didn't know that he had dudes on the piphery.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gotten better at that, well, no question. No, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know where this team would be without him as

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<v Speaker 2>a point guard. Yah, because they he's kind of had

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<v Speaker 2>a he's had a very good season without having a

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<v Speaker 2>very good season. And I know that makes no sense,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's exactly what this team needs because it needs

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<v Speaker 2>him blown off age, right, But but but he's great

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<v Speaker 2>for this team. Not very efficient.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, every night you look, he has around eleven to

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<v Speaker 3>fourteen points. Yeah, six or seven shots, four or five

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<v Speaker 3>assists with like one turnover.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, here here's the thing. You have kJ you have Jaden,

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<v Speaker 2>you have you have Caleb. If if I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>it will happen, but I think it could happen the

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<v Speaker 2>next maybe two times, the next ten twelve games where

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<v Speaker 2>they all play together. Well, and you were saying holdly

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<v Speaker 2>crap and then everyone get all happy again. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you a had and I said this before the season,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe I was guilty of being over zealous, Uh, Bibby, Simon,

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<v Speaker 2>Terry Dickerson, And you can put just three of those

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<v Speaker 2>in interchangem because they're all interchangeable. And you had kJ,

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<v Speaker 2>jb and and Caleb pretty good three, not not to

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<v Speaker 2>the level of those guys, but the best three some

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<v Speaker 2>probably since that time where you could you know, saying

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<v Speaker 2>since And I'm just because Seawn's time to me was

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<v Speaker 2>just whatever he had. He had Johnson, and he had

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<v Speaker 2>McConnell and who's your three guy, Gordon?

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<v Speaker 3>In terms of offensively, yeah, I agree, I agree, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I because I was thinking of the five or the

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<v Speaker 3>Salim style or Hassan, Adams, Shannon and Fry that No.

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<v Speaker 2>Because Hassan was what he was, he was more of

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<v Speaker 2>before than he was or three, and and McClellan was not.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's not that guy? But he used to be the

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<v Speaker 2>guy that he got hurt. So no, I still stand

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<v Speaker 2>by that that offensively and defensive because that Miles and

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<v Speaker 2>Bibby and and JT. And they were not defenders, they

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<v Speaker 2>were creators and this team could have that. The thing

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<v Speaker 2>about it is what if they get hot at that

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<v Speaker 2>right time and you're thinking, you know where everyone's gonna say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we knew this, it was possible all the time, and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of except that you got to start showing it

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<v Speaker 2>at East in glimpses.

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<v Speaker 3>And again, this is across college basketball. The main issue

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<v Speaker 3>is those guys had time to develop throughout the years together.

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<v Speaker 3>Outside of Bibby, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right where

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<v Speaker 3>these guys okay, two years and that's considered a veteran group.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, so yeah, no, you're right. They spent a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of time together, a lot of basketball. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 2>Bibby was kind of like the catalyst.

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<v Speaker 3>And I kind of asked Tommy that at the beginning

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<v Speaker 3>of the season in terms of, Okay, you have these

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<v Speaker 3>three really good guards coming back. But now and yes,

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<v Speaker 3>they played together last year, but now they're in the

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<v Speaker 3>starting lineup, how is that cohesion gonna work? And he said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>they played together last year. We're not worried about that. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but they weren't starting together last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the dynamics of her, We'll see what happens. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they're capable of doing something. You just got to catch fire.

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<v Speaker 2>That's easy. You know. When I leave this place, I

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<v Speaker 2>just gotta find that right woman, Christie State, the right woman,

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<v Speaker 2>the right the right club, the right air in the

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<v Speaker 2>wind right. Yeah, and I gotta find a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>money to put my walt. So all those factors are factors, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So collected me and colected this back court.

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<v Speaker 3>But and you know, at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you look at college basketball and it's the

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<v Speaker 3>veteran groups that still win Yukon back to back national championship.

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<v Speaker 3>They've had veteran groups along the way. Kansas when they won,

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<v Speaker 3>veteran group. North Carolina got there with a veteran group.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no one, No one's that team anymore. No, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know Clark saw I look at any Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's a weird good coach.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, he's a weird that's a great way

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<v Speaker 3>well to me. And again, Bruce Pearl might be a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit better, but that Sean Miller, Bruce Pearl, Tennessee

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<v Speaker 3>coach Rick Barnes, Yeah, kind of all in the same category.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't win the big game. Oh yeah, right good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And to his credit, the Pearl has gone to the

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<v Speaker 2>Final four, and so Rick Barnes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but Rick didn't get there with Kevin Garnett. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean Kevin Durant. Bruce Pearl couldn't get there with Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 3>with Tennessee when he had all those great teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we'll see what happens. Let's take a break here,

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<v Speaker 1>This is Eye on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>You belong to take part in the show call up

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<v Speaker 1>Steve now went five to two oh four one six,

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<v Speaker 2>Two the ball Here Sports four team to hie Steve

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<v Speaker 2>Bavara and with me today is Troy Hutchinson. And now

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<v Speaker 2>when to po have Sunnyside Boys soccer coach. Coach O'Brien,

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<v Speaker 2>how what are you, coach?

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<v Speaker 15>I'm doing very well, Sarah.

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<v Speaker 16>How are you today?

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing fine. You guys are doing really well with

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<v Speaker 2>what a couple of three weeks left? How much how

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<v Speaker 2>much time you have?

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<v Speaker 15>Yes, sir, so we got two weeks left starting next week,

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<v Speaker 15>we got five games, five home games, and then we'll

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<v Speaker 15>be headed into the playoffs after that.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just remind everybody last year you were one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best teams in the state, if not the

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<v Speaker 2>best teams in the in the state. At the higher

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<v Speaker 2>higher level. You were in the rankings of the of

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<v Speaker 2>the state, of the national national rankings. How did that

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<v Speaker 2>help you? Even though what happened happened to get ready

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<v Speaker 2>for this year.

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<v Speaker 15>So, I think last year was kind of a chance

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<v Speaker 15>for us to get back to kind.

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<v Speaker 16>Of where we were prior to COVID.

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<v Speaker 15>I think that two years ago we were so sawid,

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<v Speaker 15>kind of built ourselves back up, and then last year

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<v Speaker 15>I think we were able to compete with anybody in

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<v Speaker 15>the state. Obviously we saw a little short in the quarterfinals,

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<v Speaker 15>but you know, we ended the year right number one

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<v Speaker 15>and then number sixty nationally. So I think It just

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<v Speaker 15>kind of gave us that confidence that Sunnyside was back

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<v Speaker 15>and that, you know, going into this year, we were

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<v Speaker 15>just a little bit more hungry to finish off the

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<v Speaker 15>season better than we did last year.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when you get that far and losing that

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<v Speaker 3>type of game and have those moments as the program.

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<v Speaker 3>I know from covering at least high school football in

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<v Speaker 3>high school basketball here locally, a lot of those teams

836
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<v Speaker 3>when they welcome back a lot of the players and

837
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:38.719
<v Speaker 3>similar faces for the next season, that's the talk usually

838
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:41.119
<v Speaker 3>of the offseason as you're preparing for the year and

839
00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:44.800
<v Speaker 3>kind of remembering that game, at least the players getting

840
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:47.519
<v Speaker 3>ready for that. Was it like that for you guys

841
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:50.960
<v Speaker 3>in terms of that hunger, that drive thinking about that game.

842
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:54.880
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, I think it's one of the things that we

843
00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:56.800
<v Speaker 15>talked about quite a bit at the beginning of the year,

844
00:38:57.840 --> 00:38:59.719
<v Speaker 15>and you're right, it is something as a coach that

845
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:01.880
<v Speaker 15>you want to remind the kids of of you know

846
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:04.559
<v Speaker 15>that we tell short and obviously there's some things we

847
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:06.079
<v Speaker 15>could do a little bit better and we will do

848
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:06.679
<v Speaker 15>them better.

849
00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:08.360
<v Speaker 16>This year, which I think we've done a good job

850
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:09.239
<v Speaker 16>of just that.

851
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:11.320
<v Speaker 15>And then you know, getting back to the standard of

852
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:13.559
<v Speaker 15>really what we want Sunnyside Soccer to be. I mean,

853
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.159
<v Speaker 15>it is the top program in the state and we

854
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:18.119
<v Speaker 15>want to finish back at the top, and I think

855
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:20.360
<v Speaker 15>those two things have really motivated the kids this year.

856
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:23.000
<v Speaker 2>We're talking to Casey Obrian. The Sunnyside Boys High School

857
00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:26.000
<v Speaker 2>a very good soccer team. So let me ask you

858
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:29.440
<v Speaker 2>just if we can remind the listeners of who you are,

859
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:32.840
<v Speaker 2>because what you've been doing here at Sunnyside is not

860
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:34.920
<v Speaker 2>by accident, because you guys have been very good. Give

861
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:37.039
<v Speaker 2>me your background and how you got to be where

862
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:37.480
<v Speaker 2>you're at.

863
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:41.880
<v Speaker 15>Okay, so what we're talking about myself, I'm not really

864
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:47.920
<v Speaker 15>the biggest, biggest fan, but yeah, so I've been the

865
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:52.400
<v Speaker 15>head coach at Sunnyside. This is my ninth season. We've

866
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:55.320
<v Speaker 15>been a playoff team all nine years. Obviously, we've had

867
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:58.239
<v Speaker 15>winning records all nine years. In twenty eighteen nineteen we

868
00:39:58.320 --> 00:39:59.119
<v Speaker 15>want to state title.

869
00:39:59.239 --> 00:39:59.920
<v Speaker 16>We went underfeed.

870
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:03.840
<v Speaker 15>It's actually probably one of the best seasons Arizona Soccer's

871
00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:05.760
<v Speaker 15>ever had because we beat the six A state champs,

872
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:07.480
<v Speaker 15>we won the five A title, we beat the four

873
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:09.400
<v Speaker 15>A state champs, and we beat the runner up from

874
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:12.639
<v Speaker 15>both conferences as well. So the year after that we

875
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:15.559
<v Speaker 15>were a state runner up team. We only lost two games.

876
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:18.559
<v Speaker 15>One was to a really big school and Los Angeles

877
00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:20.519
<v Speaker 15>that was a really like a premiere program, and then

878
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:22.559
<v Speaker 15>the second one was in the title game. And again

879
00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:25.519
<v Speaker 15>we finished top twenty five nationally. The year prior we

880
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:29.400
<v Speaker 15>were top four in the main nation. Yeah, it's been

881
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:30.960
<v Speaker 15>a good run at to any side. COVID knocked this

882
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:33.760
<v Speaker 15>down a little bit. We were a semi finalist team

883
00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:35.920
<v Speaker 15>the COVID year and then we've been kind of building back.

884
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:38.440
<v Speaker 15>Last year we were at number one seed in six

885
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:41.079
<v Speaker 15>A and we fell short in the quarterfinals. Right now

886
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:42.920
<v Speaker 15>we're the number one seed in the Open and the

887
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:47.400
<v Speaker 15>six A. I along the way have been a state

888
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:50.320
<v Speaker 15>coach of the Year, West Coast Region Coach of the Year.

889
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:53.039
<v Speaker 15>That's a national honor, and you know it's just some

890
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:56.199
<v Speaker 15>other things kind of that was picked up along the journey.

891
00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Very very nice. I'm assuming that some of these kids,

892
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.119
<v Speaker 2>some of them, many of them have moved on after

893
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:05.280
<v Speaker 2>they finished with you, maybe Pima or somewhere else because

894
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:07.320
<v Speaker 2>I know, well, and then we'll talk about the kid

895
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:10.280
<v Speaker 2>you have now that scores goal all the goals.

896
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:13.639
<v Speaker 15>Yes, yes, sir. So the kids that have gone on.

897
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:16.239
<v Speaker 15>Last year's class was a really good class. We had

898
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:18.440
<v Speaker 15>a kid signed at Saint Mary's, which is a Division

899
00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:23.519
<v Speaker 15>one school in California. He started about maybe like a

900
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:25.800
<v Speaker 15>third of the year as a true freshman last year

901
00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:29.519
<v Speaker 15>for them, and then we have a starter on Pima

902
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:30.039
<v Speaker 15>from this year.

903
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:31.760
<v Speaker 16>We've had quite a few of the kids from.

904
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:34.639
<v Speaker 15>The national championship team at PEMA from four or five

905
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:39.599
<v Speaker 15>years ago. We've had kids scattered throughout the country. Typically

906
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:42.559
<v Speaker 15>they'll go to Pima Yava Pie. We've had a couple

907
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:45.599
<v Speaker 15>of quite a few kids actually go into California. So

908
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:47.960
<v Speaker 15>we've been on a good job of promoting and right

909
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:51.480
<v Speaker 15>now we have five seniors with offers, so we're trying

910
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:53.320
<v Speaker 15>to continue doing that, get the kids to the next

911
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:54.280
<v Speaker 15>level and really give them.

912
00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:56.840
<v Speaker 16>An opportunity to grow and earn a degree.

913
00:41:57.400 --> 00:41:58.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good for you, Great for you.

914
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:01.000
<v Speaker 3>It turns out the recruiting and you know, you were

915
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:03.760
<v Speaker 3>saying mostly Pema ya Api and stuff like that, How

916
00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:06.920
<v Speaker 3>have you seen a progress since the point where you

917
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:09.199
<v Speaker 3>got there nine years ago to where it is today

918
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:13.519
<v Speaker 3>in terms of the national recognition from colleges across the country.

919
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:14.599
<v Speaker 2>For the Sunnyside.

920
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:18.480
<v Speaker 15>So when I first got there, that's interesting to think about.

921
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:21.760
<v Speaker 15>I couldn't sell a player to anybody. You know, there

922
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:24.320
<v Speaker 15>was just I guess we weren't really on the radar.

923
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:26.719
<v Speaker 16>Maybe a lack of discipline, a lack of results.

924
00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:27.960
<v Speaker 15>I'm not really sure what it was.

925
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:29.519
<v Speaker 16>But our first.

926
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:32.599
<v Speaker 15>Year, I couldn't get anybody out the door anywhere, even

927
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:33.280
<v Speaker 15>though we did have.

928
00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:34.079
<v Speaker 16>A pretty good team.

929
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:37.159
<v Speaker 15>And then our second year, when we continue to have

930
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:39.639
<v Speaker 15>success and people started and noticed like that we had

931
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:41.679
<v Speaker 15>a lot of structure and discipline in our program. We

932
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:44.280
<v Speaker 15>were able to get a kid named Brian Tumasera to Pima,

933
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:46.840
<v Speaker 15>and he actually was a starter in day one there,

934
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:49.639
<v Speaker 15>and he kind of just broke through for us ever

935
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:51.639
<v Speaker 15>since he went to Tema, and we could kind of

936
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:54.239
<v Speaker 15>use him as a reference, and then you know, we

937
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:56.199
<v Speaker 15>could reference our results and how we were doing.

938
00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:58.559
<v Speaker 16>Coaches are really interested to take our call.

939
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:02.880
<v Speaker 15>I thought to a coach from Nebraska today, talked to

940
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:05.480
<v Speaker 15>a couple of coaches from California this week, just you know,

941
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:07.880
<v Speaker 15>and they're really interested because I think our profile is

942
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:11.320
<v Speaker 15>pretty strong right now, and you know, you just mentioned

943
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:12.800
<v Speaker 15>that you're a top team in the Nation and.

944
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:14.159
<v Speaker 16>Their years perk up pretty quick.

945
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:16.159
<v Speaker 15>So it really is opening doors for our kids.

946
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:18.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm used to seeing because my kids played back

947
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:22.039
<v Speaker 2>in the day at Foothills and the CDO and and

948
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:24.760
<v Speaker 2>you know South Point do those names you know, you know,

949
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Wolfgang does a tremendous job. Cosgroup does a triminous stub people.

950
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:30.760
<v Speaker 2>So do many of your kids are at the club level

951
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:33.280
<v Speaker 2>play for I guess I have see twoson maybe it

952
00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:36.280
<v Speaker 2>was TSA before or do they stick with you? What's

953
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:37.000
<v Speaker 2>how does that work?

954
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:40.360
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, so a few of them do play at that

955
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:43.320
<v Speaker 15>CE Tucson, a couple of player at a couple other

956
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:46.639
<v Speaker 15>local club teams. But we we train year round and

957
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:48.519
<v Speaker 15>I think we have like pretty much an in house

958
00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:52.119
<v Speaker 15>club system. So I mean, I would say almost sixty

959
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:55.239
<v Speaker 15>percent of our kids, maybe seventy just play at Sunnyside,

960
00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:58.480
<v Speaker 15>just train at Sunnyside with me, And I mean we're

961
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:01.119
<v Speaker 15>on We're on the field pretty much all day every day.

962
00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:05.039
<v Speaker 15>Today we already trained three times today. We had a workout,

963
00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:07.159
<v Speaker 15>a lift in the morning, we hit the field in

964
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:09.840
<v Speaker 15>the morning, and then this afternoon we had another training session.

965
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:13.000
<v Speaker 15>And that's pretty typical of you know, all year, So

966
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.960
<v Speaker 15>I think what we provide a Sunnyside really does get

967
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:18.239
<v Speaker 15>the kids ready for the next level, just because they're training,

968
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:21.119
<v Speaker 15>you know, very systematically and we're building them there. So

969
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:23.599
<v Speaker 15>we call her and the off season, we actually do

970
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:25.639
<v Speaker 15>have our own kind of club system called south Side

971
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:27.519
<v Speaker 15>f Sea and a lot of the kids play for

972
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:28.199
<v Speaker 15>that team as well.

973
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:30.039
<v Speaker 2>Do you play against those teams that I mentioned the

974
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:33.159
<v Speaker 2>the FC two songs and maybe go on the road

975
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:35.079
<v Speaker 2>a little we have.

976
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:38.119
<v Speaker 15>We don't go on the road because we just typically

977
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:40.239
<v Speaker 15>try to keep it in house, try to keep it

978
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:42.920
<v Speaker 15>at Sunnyside because a lot of the kids don't really

979
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:45.679
<v Speaker 15>have a ton of support to get away from the campus.

980
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:47.960
<v Speaker 15>It's kind of hard to organize in the off season,

981
00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:51.880
<v Speaker 15>so we keep everything pretty local and those teams typically will.

982
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:53.679
<v Speaker 16>Travel because we can give them some pretty good competition.

983
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:53.880
<v Speaker 13>Sure.

984
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Sure, no, you'd be the first guy we call, Hey,

985
00:44:56.519 --> 00:45:00.320
<v Speaker 2>we want to get better? Can you play us? Yeah?

986
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:02.480
<v Speaker 16>And I'll feel that call instantly.

987
00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:02.719
<v Speaker 15>Man.

988
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:03.400
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

989
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:04.920
<v Speaker 15>It's great for the kids, you know, they have a

990
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:07.280
<v Speaker 15>lot of pride. I think when they play at Sunnyside,

991
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:09.280
<v Speaker 15>even when it is club, they're just you know, they

992
00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:11.599
<v Speaker 15>really do take it means a lot to them. So

993
00:45:11.719 --> 00:45:13.840
<v Speaker 15>it's really fun to have teams that come and it's

994
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:15.880
<v Speaker 15>cool to have that reputation. Well though even you know,

995
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:17.639
<v Speaker 15>want to think of us. It's pretty cool to be

996
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:18.400
<v Speaker 15>in that conversation.

997
00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:20.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how much do you because you mentioned, you know,

998
00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:24.960
<v Speaker 3>having the the the south Side Club team, how much

999
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:27.920
<v Speaker 3>do you think that having the one voice, the one

1000
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:29.920
<v Speaker 3>this is how we do it has helped not only

1001
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:33.360
<v Speaker 3>your program on Sunnyside, but these kids move on to

1002
00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:36.760
<v Speaker 3>colleges and being trained by one voice the proper way

1003
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:38.920
<v Speaker 3>and not having so many coaches and so many different

1004
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:41.519
<v Speaker 3>player people talking to them and leorrying about well this

1005
00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:43.440
<v Speaker 3>coach likes it this way and this coach likes it

1006
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:43.800
<v Speaker 3>this way.

1007
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:51.519
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, it helps. We have a super intense environment. It's

1008
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:55.000
<v Speaker 15>super super competitive. It's uber competitive, to be honest. So

1009
00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:57.920
<v Speaker 15>I think that just the training conditions that we have

1010
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:00.239
<v Speaker 15>and the expectations of the way that we train in

1011
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:02.000
<v Speaker 15>the way that we practice, and the way we condition

1012
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:02.800
<v Speaker 15>it just it.

1013
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:05.599
<v Speaker 16>Really does lead the kids to success because it's it's.

1014
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:07.679
<v Speaker 15>A pretty relentless grind, and I mean, our goal is

1015
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:09.199
<v Speaker 15>to get the kids to the next level, so we're

1016
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:11.440
<v Speaker 15>not necessarily training as a high school team, We're really

1017
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:12.119
<v Speaker 15>trying to train.

1018
00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:13.440
<v Speaker 16>The kids as athletes.

1019
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:15.760
<v Speaker 15>We rate, we rate, we rate trained probably more than

1020
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:18.159
<v Speaker 15>any other soccer team, you know. And I mean we're

1021
00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:21.519
<v Speaker 15>running constantly, And I think just giving them those tools,

1022
00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:24.039
<v Speaker 15>you know, and and teaching them that discipline and that

1023
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:26.159
<v Speaker 15>work ethic really does prepare them for the next level.

1024
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:28.079
<v Speaker 15>And I guess it's good to have one voice more

1025
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:31.400
<v Speaker 15>consistently than anything else, just because that's the only way

1026
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:33.519
<v Speaker 15>that they know. So you know, they don't slack off,

1027
00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:35.760
<v Speaker 15>they're not lazy. They love the work hard because they

1028
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:36.840
<v Speaker 15>don't really know anything else.

1029
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that makes sense. Going back to the question I

1030
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:41.920
<v Speaker 2>had before with the kid who's scoring all the points. Uh,

1031
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:44.559
<v Speaker 2>I forgot his name. I saw on TV. I guess

1032
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:48.239
<v Speaker 2>yesterday or the day before. But he must be a stud.

1033
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:53.280
<v Speaker 15>Uh. Yeah, he's definitely a stud. Last year he was

1034
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:56.840
<v Speaker 15>six A Conference Offensive Player of the Year, which in

1035
00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:59.039
<v Speaker 15>Tucson is pretty much unheard of for anybody to get

1036
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:02.119
<v Speaker 15>a six A recognition like that. He's the first kid

1037
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:03.840
<v Speaker 15>that I know of that's been ranked or had that

1038
00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:05.880
<v Speaker 15>kind of an accolade to sixth A. Last year, he

1039
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:08.480
<v Speaker 15>led the state in points assists. I think he was

1040
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:11.840
<v Speaker 15>second in goals number eight nationally actually last year in

1041
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:15.960
<v Speaker 15>points scored, which is a combination of goals and assists.

1042
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:18.039
<v Speaker 16>This year he leads the state and assists.

1043
00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:20.800
<v Speaker 15>He's second in goals and he's second in points. And

1044
00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:23.480
<v Speaker 15>he's making a really strong case to be the six

1045
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:25.280
<v Speaker 15>A Player of the Year this year. And I think

1046
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:27.840
<v Speaker 15>probably should be the conversation for Gatorade Player of the Year,

1047
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:34.079
<v Speaker 15>which I think he was runner up last year. Angel Bacamants, Toledo.

1048
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:37.280
<v Speaker 2>So I'm sure that you've gotten a lot of calls about.

1049
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:40.480
<v Speaker 15>Him, Yes, sir, Yeah, we've gotten a lot of calls

1050
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:44.519
<v Speaker 15>about him. He's probably going to go the junior college route,

1051
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:48.920
<v Speaker 15>if not try to bypass college altogether. It's just kind

1052
00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:50.880
<v Speaker 15>of he wants to grow and mature a little bit more.

1053
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:54.639
<v Speaker 15>He's really coming into his own, Lady. It's kind of

1054
00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:55.920
<v Speaker 15>like a more reserved kid.

1055
00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:56.320
<v Speaker 16>This year.

1056
00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:58.880
<v Speaker 15>He's really gotten more confident in himself and started believing

1057
00:47:58.880 --> 00:47:59.400
<v Speaker 15>in himself.

1058
00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:00.920
<v Speaker 16>So I think, you know, he wants to.

1059
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:02.920
<v Speaker 15>Keep on going, but he wants to try to do

1060
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:05.039
<v Speaker 15>something a little bit smaller where he can continue to

1061
00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:08.559
<v Speaker 15>grow his mentality and his mindset, and you know, his habits,

1062
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:12.000
<v Speaker 15>and I think he's going to really flourish this summer.

1063
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:13.920
<v Speaker 15>He should have an opportunity to play with the sets

1064
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:17.360
<v Speaker 15>on men's team, which is a USL two team. I

1065
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:19.039
<v Speaker 15>think he has a strong shot at getting some really

1066
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:21.000
<v Speaker 15>good playing time there as well. So I think he's

1067
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:21.840
<v Speaker 15>about to take off.

1068
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you have no question. We all know the history

1069
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:29.000
<v Speaker 2>of the wrestling program. Very strong, obviously very successful, and

1070
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:32.360
<v Speaker 2>their kids go to college and thrive as well. There's

1071
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:34.800
<v Speaker 2>other programs there at Sunnyside that have done really well.

1072
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:38.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure the parents love you because of what you've

1073
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.599
<v Speaker 2>done for the kids, and they love you because you're

1074
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:42.719
<v Speaker 2>helping them get an education beyond high school.

1075
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:46.719
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, I mean, well I hope they love me. I

1076
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:49.000
<v Speaker 15>mean I'm around their kids quite a bit, and I

1077
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:51.639
<v Speaker 15>mean I'm trying to teach them, you know, the right things.

1078
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:55.239
<v Speaker 15>Like I said, it is a really intense competitive environment,

1079
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:57.320
<v Speaker 15>so it can be a little bit daunting at the beginning.

1080
00:48:57.440 --> 00:48:59.440
<v Speaker 15>I think some parents are kind of taken aback by,

1081
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:02.880
<v Speaker 15>you know, the intensity with the way that we approach everything.

1082
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:05.480
<v Speaker 15>But you know, the basically what I tell them is

1083
00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:07.480
<v Speaker 15>that the kids come here and they can be successful here.

1084
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:10.440
<v Speaker 15>You really can translate that to life, because right, you know,

1085
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:13.159
<v Speaker 15>we set a goal and instead of just thinking about

1086
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:14.920
<v Speaker 15>it and dreaming about it, we just worked for it

1087
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:17.039
<v Speaker 15>and every single day. And that's what I've learned from

1088
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:18.960
<v Speaker 15>the wrestling program, to be honest with you, is that

1089
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:21.360
<v Speaker 15>they say what their goal is and instead of just

1090
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:23.320
<v Speaker 15>talking about it all year, they just go to work

1091
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:25.559
<v Speaker 15>every day and they work out three four times a

1092
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:28.559
<v Speaker 15>day all summer, all year. And what I learned from

1093
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:30.920
<v Speaker 15>that program is like, if you have a goal, you

1094
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:32.760
<v Speaker 15>better be able to back it up with your work.

1095
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:35.559
<v Speaker 15>And I think the parents see that, and they see

1096
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:38.280
<v Speaker 15>their kids blossom and grow and become more confident and

1097
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:41.679
<v Speaker 15>start talking about college, probably more than they've talked about before.

1098
00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:43.679
<v Speaker 15>And I think that they like that the ideas on

1099
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:45.840
<v Speaker 15>their mind and that they're on the path. So that

1100
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:48.440
<v Speaker 15>so I think I gained their respect very early on

1101
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:49.159
<v Speaker 15>in the process.

1102
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:51.760
<v Speaker 3>Sure, you know, at the at the beginning of this interview,

1103
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:54.239
<v Speaker 3>you mentioned that you had some things last year that

1104
00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:57.199
<v Speaker 3>you guys needed to clean up, especially in that quarterfinal game,

1105
00:49:57.679 --> 00:49:59.719
<v Speaker 3>that you worked on during the offseason, and you've seen

1106
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:02.920
<v Speaker 3>results from that. What were those things that you guys

1107
00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:05.559
<v Speaker 3>tried to clean up as a team.

1108
00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:10.199
<v Speaker 15>So, like speaking of from a soccer perspective, one of

1109
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:12.400
<v Speaker 15>the big things, you know, and everybody will always harp

1110
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:15.039
<v Speaker 15>on scoring goals and finishing, but we truly did have

1111
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:19.159
<v Speaker 15>an issue with that, just scoring on certain sequences and plays,

1112
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:22.960
<v Speaker 15>and so this year we focused on it and it's

1113
00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:25.559
<v Speaker 15>become actually a strength, which is really cool to turn

1114
00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:27.639
<v Speaker 15>something that was a weakness into his strength this year,

1115
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:33.320
<v Speaker 15>talking more, being more positive, having better leadership on the team,

1116
00:50:33.440 --> 00:50:35.840
<v Speaker 15>not just coming from me. Those are all kinds of

1117
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:37.719
<v Speaker 15>things that we needed to clean up this year and

1118
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:39.840
<v Speaker 15>it's really rounding in the form right now. And I

1119
00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:43.239
<v Speaker 15>think that the kids kind of, like you said previously,

1120
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:45.320
<v Speaker 15>saying that so much in the off season about how

1121
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:48.159
<v Speaker 15>we fell short makes the kids actually want to fix

1122
00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:50.000
<v Speaker 15>those things and change them, and they've done a great

1123
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:50.800
<v Speaker 15>job of doing that.

1124
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:53.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you have any games? You got five left?

1125
00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Do you think regular season?

1126
00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:57.480
<v Speaker 16>Yes, sir, we got five regular season games left.

1127
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:00.239
<v Speaker 15>On Tuesday, we go to San Luis, who's been in

1128
00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:02.400
<v Speaker 15>the six eight title game. I want to say three

1129
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:05.239
<v Speaker 15>out of the last four years, they've been a runner

1130
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:07.440
<v Speaker 15>up all three times. But it's one of the top

1131
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:09.840
<v Speaker 15>programs in the state. First time I'll ever play them,

1132
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:11.719
<v Speaker 15>so we're really excited for that one.

1133
00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, good luck to the rest of the way. Coach,

1134
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:14.079
<v Speaker 2>we've been talking to you.

1135
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:17.119
<v Speaker 16>When you win it, I really appreciate it.

1136
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:18.840
<v Speaker 15>Thank you guys for having me. I appreciate your time.

1137
00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Sure, thank you. Same here. Let's take a break. What

1138
00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:23.000
<v Speaker 2>a great what a great school, what a good program.

1139
00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:25.159
<v Speaker 2>Let's take a break and come back with the breaking news.
