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Speaker 3: You have seen established with same anybody, because I've had
Speaker 3: the entire town of Spring Creek asking me if I've
Speaker 3: killed Britain, and he might.
Speaker 4: As well have.
Speaker 1: If you didn't see, I think, well, it's another one.
Speaker 1: You knew it was coming right. This is Sword and
Speaker 1: Scale episode three hundred and eleven, the show that reveals
Speaker 1: that the worst busters are real? Why did I say
Speaker 1: that so fast? I still have a little time? You
Speaker 1: want to you want to hang out or something? This
Speaker 1: episode was written and produced by Elena Thomas, one of
Speaker 1: our senior producers. Here towards Scale, I keep meaning to
Speaker 1: give them credit, but I keep getting bogged down and
Speaker 1: forget because I have to mention how awesome our plus
Speaker 1: service is. If you haven't checked out the app lately,
Speaker 1: we've made all sorts of improvements, check it out. Teenagers
Speaker 1: live in a world of contradictions. They crave independence, but
Speaker 1: they lack experience. That's why they say so many really
Speaker 1: stupid things on Instagram and Snapchat. Oh and that Chinese
Speaker 1: spying app TikTok. They trust too easily. Their instincts are
Speaker 1: still underdeveloped. It's a stage of life defined by growth, curiosity,
Speaker 1: and vulnerability. A time when friendships feel unshakable, but they
Speaker 1: are shakable, they'll probably end, and most people you talk
Speaker 1: to right now as a kid won't be around in
Speaker 1: a couple of years. It's a time when the world
Speaker 1: feels safe, but somehow, danger lurks around every corner. These days,
Speaker 1: technology is the sun we all seem to orbit around,
Speaker 1: myself included, and teenagers are uniquely susceptible to both the
Speaker 1: wonders and the perils technology brings. Apps like Snapchat promise
Speaker 1: the allure of privacy, letting users share photos and messages
Speaker 1: that disappear. It's no secret this technology seems maliciously marketed
Speaker 1: towards underage users. Why would a kid need access to
Speaker 1: an app with vanishing messages and photos? Think about it.
Speaker 1: It's a disaster waiting to happen. Your kid buys drugs
Speaker 1: from someone over Snapchat and overdoses, well, too bad, those
Speaker 1: messages are gone. Your kid agrees to meet up with
Speaker 1: someone in the middle of the night, well you may
Speaker 1: never find out where they went. Kids tend to view
Speaker 1: Snapchat as infallible unless someone takes a screenshot of what
Speaker 1: you've sent them, and Snapchat does notify both users when
Speaker 1: that happens. Teens can sleep easily knowing the photos they've
Speaker 1: sent or gone forever. But this is how Snapchat used
Speaker 1: to work. Its new features have opened doors for law enforcement.
Speaker 1: This hasn't changed how kids interact with the app, though.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've said it here a million times. Kids
Speaker 1: are dumb. I don't know any better. It's interesting when
Speaker 1: something designed to make things disappear ends up the only
Speaker 1: witness to a heinous crime. Spring Creek, Nevada, is a
Speaker 1: small town in Elko County, near the base of the
Speaker 1: Ruby Mountains. It's located in the northeastern quadrant of the
Speaker 1: state for the population of just over fifteen thousand. It's
Speaker 1: a place like so many others we've talked about in
Speaker 1: past episodes. Everyone knows each other, everyone looks out for
Speaker 1: each other, blah blah blah, all that. To the people
Speaker 1: of Spring Creek. Danger is something that exists in other towns,
Speaker 1: not theirs. For sixteen year old high schooler Brittany Ulicky
Speaker 1: and her family, Spring Creek was home. Brittany was a bright,
Speaker 1: social teenager who loved working on the ranch almost as
Speaker 1: much as she loved hanging out with her friends. Her mom, Alicia,
Speaker 1: worked as a nurse, often pulling long shifts, while her dad, Jim,
Speaker 1: a local musician, played shows with his band. Though Alicia
Speaker 1: and Jim were divorced, they stayed connected through their kids,
Speaker 1: sharing a sense of pride in Brittany's growing independence. But
Speaker 1: on Sunday, March eighth, twenty twenty, the routine predictability of
Speaker 1: Spring Creek life shattered. The day started, like many others,
Speaker 1: Brittany spent the morning in nearby Elco at her dad's
Speaker 1: band practice, a regular event. She was supposed to be
Speaker 1: spending the night at his place. Brittany was good about
Speaker 1: checking in with her parents regularly. Jim said, no matter what,
Speaker 1: Brittany called me every hour. It was a little after
Speaker 1: three thirty PM when Brittany left band practice. She told
Speaker 1: her dad that she had caught a ride, and they
Speaker 1: laughed about how Brittany would end up beating him home.
Speaker 1: Later on, when Jim got in his truck to head
Speaker 1: back and called his daughter to let her know he
Speaker 1: was on his way, Brittany's phone went straight to voicemail.
Speaker 1: At first, Jim tried to stay calm. Maybe Brittany's phone
Speaker 1: battery died, or maybe she was home banger watching TV.
Speaker 1: But when he arrived and found the house empty, he
Speaker 1: called her again and again and again. By the third time,
Speaker 1: the unease was hard to ignore. Meanwhile, Alicia was experiencing
Speaker 1: her own growing panic. By the next morning, Alicia assumed
Speaker 1: Jim had called the police and made a report himself,
Speaker 1: but she discovered that he hadn't.
Speaker 2: He's just very friendly.
Speaker 4: When coming to Sure.
Speaker 5: Okay, so is it son or daughter?
Speaker 3: Daughter?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Okay, what is daughter's name?
Speaker 2: Brittany?
Speaker 6: We get a finished her name Britany.
Speaker 7: She was supposed to be going home yesterday. She was
Speaker 7: in town with her dad, okay, and she got her
Speaker 7: She told her him, I'm going to get a ride
Speaker 7: home with a friend. I'll beat you home, and he
Speaker 7: says you better beat me because I'll be there in
Speaker 7: an hour.
Speaker 6: And she goes, We're going right home, talking about coming here.
Speaker 6: Do you know her dad lives in Southwark? We're split up? Okay,
Speaker 6: I don't know. Her friend that had her I talked
Speaker 6: to him.
Speaker 7: He dropped her off at the high school down here
Speaker 7: at four o'clock with some.
Speaker 1: Guy, and I go, what guy?
Speaker 6: And he goes, I don't know.
Speaker 7: She just said my new friend, tall white, cowboy looking
Speaker 7: guy with a great drug and now no, we can
Speaker 7: find her.
Speaker 2: No, no, her friends, her phone's not.
Speaker 3: On Okay, I don't know where to did do?
Speaker 5: So I have to ask the glurying question, when did
Speaker 5: you guys become extremely worried that she was missing? I mean,
Speaker 5: because we're talking about now quite a long period of
Speaker 5: time between when she got dropped off with this male
Speaker 5: and I was.
Speaker 4: On it last night.
Speaker 8: Her dad was supposed to calling in any I asked
Speaker 8: heim this morning, did the cops?
Speaker 6: Did you make the report?
Speaker 4: And who's no?
Speaker 2: So I made up all night.
Speaker 5: Okay, so you assumed that dad was doing what you're doing.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 1: There are a million different possibilities in a situation like this.
Speaker 1: Law enforcement has to get a good picture of what
Speaker 1: kind of team they're dealing with so they can decide
Speaker 1: whether this is a runaway or whether they're in Amber
Speaker 1: alert territory. By the way, they were desperate to find Brittany.
Speaker 6: Does she go here to Spring Creek High School? She's
Speaker 6: actually doing homeschool.
Speaker 2: Okay, she's got a lot of enemies, and I'm scared.
Speaker 5: She has a lot of enemies. Why would you say.
Speaker 6: That she just does not in school?
Speaker 8: Everybody wants the last time she went to a Rodier
Speaker 8: skeed jump by four girls, and I just I'm just.
Speaker 5: You guys weren't in a fight or anything like that.
Speaker 5: There'll be no reason for her to rebel or stay out.
Speaker 8: No, I mean, I got lots of problems with her anyway,
Speaker 8: because she's seventeen, are almost seventeen, and Jesus, but.
Speaker 9: Yesterday, in the last few days, we've been in a
Speaker 9: really good mole.
Speaker 7: I talked to her FaceTime for an hour at like
Speaker 7: one point thirty.
Speaker 6: Are youth English? Just fine, stretches, happy, go lucky.
Speaker 2: Everything was good.
Speaker 1: Alicia's mother and grandmother wondered out loud whether there were
Speaker 1: any security cameras in the parking lot when Brittany was
Speaker 1: dropped off and got into that green pickup truck. The
Speaker 1: eighteen year old boy, a close family friend, said that
Speaker 1: he had left Brittany in the Spring Creek High School
Speaker 1: lot at her request.
Speaker 5: And all we know is that it was a marine truck.
Speaker 5: We know nothing else about the individual.
Speaker 2: No, the boy.
Speaker 8: Said it was an ugwig green from the Earth two thousand.
Speaker 6: Bryce Dicky is the kid that dropped her off.
Speaker 2: Person that we know of that her. I'm going to
Speaker 2: take this.
Speaker 5: I'm going to get her entered, and then I'm going
Speaker 5: to go speep with my supervisor and see what the
Speaker 5: next course of action is going to be.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: The next day, police worked a track down all of
Speaker 1: Britney's friends, including the one who had dropped her off
Speaker 1: at the high school parking lot, eighteen year old Bryce Dicky.
Speaker 1: Bryce was out of town with his mom for some
Speaker 1: doctor's appointments, so detectives first spoke with him over the
Speaker 1: phone and later met up with him at the same
Speaker 1: parking lot that he left Brittany at the day before.
Speaker 10: Hey, Bryce, I appreciate me there, so can tell me
Speaker 10: run me through so I can understand what's going on.
Speaker 10: So I'm gonna stand in the shade over here for
Speaker 10: your wants, all right.
Speaker 11: So Sunday round eleven, I started texting, got a few
Speaker 11: texts from Brittany and just asked her if I wanted
Speaker 11: to hang out. I said sure, got ready and stuff.
Speaker 11: Told me she could meet me at Angel Park because
Speaker 11: she said her dad was doing and practice, and then
Speaker 11: I went to town, called her when I got into
Speaker 11: town on fifth, and then picked her up at Angel Park.
Speaker 11: Kept driving around and then we were over in the
Speaker 11: horsebow session and my dad called me, asking if I
Speaker 11: did come back home, so I told her I needed
Speaker 11: to go. Pasked her if she wanted me to just
Speaker 11: drop her back off at Angel Park, and she said
Speaker 11: that she wanted to meet to drop her off at
Speaker 11: the high school to meet her new friend, and said
Speaker 11: her dad he was going to pick her up later.
Speaker 11: So then came over here, pulled in right over there,
Speaker 11: give her a hug and stay, and then she got out.
Speaker 11: I pulled out and then started hitting that way, and
Speaker 11: the F one fifty was over there, but I didn't
Speaker 11: know that was where she was going at that time.
Speaker 11: They were both standing outside the truck. And then I
Speaker 11: got to the turnout right over there by the middle school,
Speaker 11: and then that that F one fifty was in motion.
Speaker 10: So you said, what was the F one fifty?
Speaker 11: Yeah, it was the tritons, the ones that are really
Speaker 11: ugly looking up the sidestepping.
Speaker 10: Uh, like that winter green, dark forest green, like a
Speaker 10: dark forest green.
Speaker 1: Price's account matched what Britney's family had recounted from their
Speaker 1: conversation with them. He talked about a green truck, an
Speaker 1: ugly one from the early two thousands, a toolbox and
Speaker 1: stickers on the rear window.
Speaker 11: It looked decently dirty, but just like about as much as.
Speaker 1: That the truck is right there, a typical truck.
Speaker 11: That a typical spring treat to the truck, yeah, and
Speaker 11: then had a silver toll box in the bed, had
Speaker 11: stickers on the back window, but I didn't see it.
Speaker 1: Any of them wore with such a clear and descriptive lead.
Speaker 1: This case was about to move very quickly, but no
Speaker 1: one was less prepared for how everything would pan out
Speaker 1: than Brittany's mother, Alicia.
Speaker 8: Brittany was always a very fiery, full of energy, funky
Speaker 8: little girl.
Speaker 2: And she was always so full of passion right from
Speaker 2: the get go, you know what I mean. She was
Speaker 2: just this.
Speaker 8: Little ball of fire, light and just fun, you know,
Speaker 8: a very good girl. She was born in Colorado Springs
Speaker 8: and we lived there for a while, and then we
Speaker 8: made the move over here to Elko because her dad
Speaker 8: got hired at the gold mines over here.
Speaker 2: She would have been eight, so we made the.
Speaker 8: Move over here which was exciting for me at first because.
Speaker 2: I grew up over here, I went to high school
Speaker 2: over here.
Speaker 8: We went to the same I went to Spring Creek
Speaker 8: High School, so it was kind of exciting, and I thought, oh,
Speaker 8: this will be fun.
Speaker 2: This is such a safe.
Speaker 8: Place, and the opportunities are going to be great over
Speaker 8: here for us.
Speaker 2: And we came over here with a lot of high hopes.
Speaker 1: The activities Elko County had to offer. Spoke to Brittany.
Speaker 1: She loved being surrounded by the mountains and the desert.
Speaker 8: She instantaneously grabbed onto the bukaroo cowboy lifestyle of this place,
Speaker 8: you know, and that was her lifestyle. That was her
Speaker 8: friend group, you know, just all a bunch of the
Speaker 8: kids that liked to ride horses and participate in rodeo.
Speaker 8: And you know, Brittany was a real deal cowgirl on
Speaker 8: the ranch. And there was no trophies, there was no judges,
Speaker 8: but there was you know what I mean. She was
Speaker 8: a little bit more. She wasn't an arena cowgirl. Was
Speaker 8: just put it that way.
Speaker 1: Brittany had a big personality, but deep down she was
Speaker 1: steady and determined. She had plans for her future and
Speaker 1: worked hard to make them happen, surprising people with how
Speaker 1: driven she could be. But public school wasn't easy for
Speaker 1: her because she had severe dyslexia and some issues with bullying.
Speaker 1: Brittany's parents decided to pull her out just before her
Speaker 1: junior year and.
Speaker 8: Homeschooler, and she was thriving. She was on track to
Speaker 8: graduate early. The Navy recruiters had definitely got to her,
Speaker 8: which I was not winning that argument with her because
Speaker 8: she was full steam ready to go. But I'm telling you,
Speaker 8: she was so strong, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 8: like she would come and do more pull ups than
Speaker 8: the recruiter and he was just like oly cow kid,
Speaker 8: you know.
Speaker 2: So she was on track. She was going to graduate
Speaker 2: a year early. She was going to join the Navy,
Speaker 2: and you know she.
Speaker 1: Was doing it despite the hurdles. Brittany wasn't one to
Speaker 1: give up. Staying on track to graduate early while dealing
Speaker 1: with severe dyslexia is no small feat.
Speaker 2: I feel like we were handling it really well.
Speaker 8: We were adapting to the situation. Things were going good,
Speaker 8: and then that day happened.
Speaker 2: You know, I just blew everything up. We were a
Speaker 2: very normal whatever you want called normal.
Speaker 8: We're a very average family, you know what I mean,
Speaker 8: And then to have something like this come and happen
Speaker 8: is just unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Everyone depended on Bryce to recall every detail of that day.
Speaker 1: From Alicia's perspective, if Brittany had been abducted and was
Speaker 1: taken out of state, his description of the man and
Speaker 1: vehicle could be their only shot at finding her.
Speaker 3: So I got a.
Speaker 12: Little bit of the story as to what your involvement was,
Speaker 12: but I'm not clear on a lot of things, and
Speaker 12: I'm just trying to do the best job that i
Speaker 12: can do.
Speaker 6: So so hopefully you ask you a question that you
Speaker 6: would like perfect.
Speaker 12: Man, Thank you very much. Now, what was kind of
Speaker 12: the nature of that conversation? What's your relationship with her?
Speaker 13: Brittany has been one of my closest friends since probably
Speaker 13: my seventh or eighth grade year.
Speaker 12: Oh, because you known each other for a well yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 12: And that.
Speaker 13: Was one of the issues we had with the previously,
Speaker 13: is I think we're going over because there a phone
Speaker 13: in her name and my phone is little siss because
Speaker 13: she's called.
Speaker 6: Me a big brother since freshman year.
Speaker 13: And then he kept asking me, well, if she's your
Speaker 13: little assist, why didn't you know her better?
Speaker 6: Because there was questions of that I.
Speaker 2: Didn't know the answer to.
Speaker 1: We won't make you sit through the whole story again.
Speaker 1: But Bryce rec picking up Brittany at Angel Park. They
Speaker 1: drove around for a while, and he details her routes
Speaker 1: and stops for detectives. He says his dad called telling
Speaker 1: him to come home. Brittany was on the phone in
Speaker 1: the passenger seat before asking Bryce to drop her off
Speaker 1: at the high school to meet a friend. She gave
Speaker 1: him a hug, walked towards the green truck, and Bryce
Speaker 1: drove away.
Speaker 6: And right before I got out.
Speaker 13: And looked back over and I just saw her over
Speaker 13: at the f one fifty with someone that was it.
Speaker 6: Could you see the type of clothing or anything on?
Speaker 6: And nothing specific that I could just and was it
Speaker 6: a white head? Black head?
Speaker 13: It didn't look light, so I didn't don't think it
Speaker 13: was a straw happen.
Speaker 6: I mean, they do make black straw hats like that.
Speaker 1: So by this point, Bryce and some of Brittany's other
Speaker 1: friends had been out searching for one of the officers
Speaker 1: actually crossed path with a vehicle of kids as they
Speaker 1: drove around scouring the town and surrounding desert. Bryce was
Speaker 1: the only one who knew what this guy looked like,
Speaker 1: though the line of sight he had from the gas
Speaker 1: station across the street gave him a vague picture of
Speaker 1: who was now known as the mysterious cowboy in the
Speaker 1: green truck.
Speaker 12: Was there any conversation when you picked I'm sure there
Speaker 12: was conversation, But was there any conversation that kind of
Speaker 12: sticks out in your mind? When you picked her up?
Speaker 13: I had a ton of conversations. There was a few
Speaker 13: because the coups had previously asked me if she was
Speaker 13: said anything about going anywhere. Besides she said that she
Speaker 13: was planning and going to Texas after the summer with
Speaker 13: her friend.
Speaker 12: You keep in contact with her pretty regularly even though
Speaker 12: she wasn't at school, or is it just kind of.
Speaker 8: Kind of.
Speaker 6: Talk to her a couple couple of times a week?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 12: Now, then the reason I'm asking, man, is, did she
Speaker 12: say anything about anyone that she was having problems with,
Speaker 12: or any people that she was interested in or anything
Speaker 12: like that.
Speaker 13: We all knew she was talking with some guy that
Speaker 13: we think was in New York, but I mean she'd
Speaker 13: be talking to him for a while. Okay, says that
Speaker 13: my Kaid told everyone knows a lot of people had
Speaker 13: problems with Brittany, but nothing that we would see this outcome.
Speaker 12: Sure sure will openly be okay.
Speaker 1: It sounded like Brittany might have been talking to a
Speaker 1: stranger online, one that she may have actually met up with. Luckily,
Speaker 1: Spring Creek High School was right in town, and though
Speaker 1: there were no security cameras on the building itself, there
Speaker 1: were numerous businesses with a view of the parking lot.
Speaker 1: Surely one of them had some helpful footage. Brittany's friends
Speaker 1: and family tried not to lose hope, but the signs
Speaker 1: weren't looking good. To make matters worse, her phone had
Speaker 1: been inactive this entire time.
Speaker 8: And it's interesting that that's when me and Jimple are alarmed.
Speaker 8: I started going off and we were starting to you know,
Speaker 8: and for Brittany, her phone was never off. She was
Speaker 8: a little social media junkie if.
Speaker 2: You well, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8: It was all about snapchat selfy. So it just got really,
Speaker 8: really really scary that her phone, you know, kept going off.
Speaker 8: And then added into the fact that Dicky had told
Speaker 8: my son, well, I dropped her off with somebody you
Speaker 8: know what I mean. So my brain is going, holy shit,
Speaker 8: somebody grabbed my daughter, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 8: they are they trafficked her? There what something?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. That's the thought that went
Speaker 2: through my head.
Speaker 8: And because I was like, I don't I don't care
Speaker 8: if she didn't run away, If putting her as a
Speaker 8: runaway puts her in the system.
Speaker 2: Fine she ran away.
Speaker 8: Just get her in the system. Something is wrong, you know,
Speaker 8: something is wrong.
Speaker 1: A parent's intuition is very real. It was just after
Speaker 1: five pm on March eighth, the day Brittany disappeared, when
Speaker 1: her phone pinged off a cell phone tower for the
Speaker 1: last time. Investigators chose to keep this crucial information to themselves,
Speaker 1: with holding it not just from the public, but even
Speaker 1: from Brittany's parents. This final ping gave detectives a defined
Speaker 1: area to search. Then, on March eleventh, two days after
Speaker 1: Brittany was officially reported missing, they found something. When sixteen
Speaker 1: year old Brittany Yuliki went missing, Spring Creek, Nevada, was
Speaker 1: suddenly a town full of questions. Her parents, Alicia and Jim,
Speaker 1: were desperate for answers, and as words spread, the search
Speaker 1: for Brittany pulled in nearly everyone in the town. She
Speaker 1: was tough, outspoken, and more at home on horseback than
Speaker 1: anywhere else. But on March eighth, twenty twenty, she wasn't
Speaker 1: on the ranch. She was in town, spending the afternoon
Speaker 1: with a friend, Bryce Dickie. According to Bryce, he dropped
Speaker 1: her off at Spring Creek High School so she could
Speaker 1: meet someone. A cowboy in a green four f one
Speaker 1: fifty pretty generic description if you ask me. Then again,
Speaker 1: I live in Texas, So there's that. That was the
Speaker 1: last time anyone saw. Three days later, at one fifty
Speaker 1: in the afternoon, two men called nine one they had
Speaker 1: found what they thought might be a body near Berner Basin,
Speaker 1: a remote stretch of land between Elco and Spring Creek.
Speaker 6: It looks like.
Speaker 5: Looks like estavity in the dark.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's.
Speaker 3: Our drag mark there.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, I stopped right here.
Speaker 1: He barked right there where he's at.
Speaker 14: I stopped and I backed up right there.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, guys, do the tire prance and
Speaker 1: all that or if that's all?
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, shoot, we'll get a statement from you guys
Speaker 10: here in a second.
Speaker 3: So all.
Speaker 6: I we'll find out that, but.
Speaker 10: First glance doesn't look good. Drag mark right there.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 5: See, yeah, that's up.
Speaker 10: Well that's the ten ninety two.
Speaker 1: That's a body.
Speaker 10: Yeah, let's get out.
Speaker 6: Yep. I'd like to see enough right now.
Speaker 10: It looks like a girl's handless back out.
Speaker 1: Nobody needed autopsy results to know who this was. Brittany's
Speaker 1: partially clothed body was found lying in the desert sand
Speaker 1: and brush. Someone had tried to cover her up with
Speaker 1: a tarp, but they didn't do a very good job.
Speaker 1: There was blood evidence and even drag marks leading from
Speaker 1: the roadway to her final resting place. Police collected a
Speaker 1: condom wrapper, a used condom, a pair of air pods,
Speaker 1: and a lanyard of keys with the name Brittany on it.
Speaker 1: Just like the information about the phone ping. Detectives decided
Speaker 1: to keep these discoveries to themselves, aside from Brittany's family.
Speaker 1: After all, their interview process was far from over.
Speaker 8: But I got a call that on Wednesday that you know,
Speaker 8: I needed to go down from my interview. You know,
Speaker 8: they were going to dump my phone. You know, it's
Speaker 8: a full on forensic interview at this point. Apparently too,
Speaker 8: because that's when I got that scam phone call about
Speaker 8: we've got your daughter, We've kidnapped her. She's not doing
Speaker 8: well from the drugs that we used, and she's going
Speaker 8: to die. And if you don't send me twenty five
Speaker 8: hundred dollars, I'm in a feeder to my dogs.
Speaker 1: What kind of sick person messes with the mind of
Speaker 1: a grieving parent like that. I mean, Jesus Christ, is
Speaker 1: the Internet toxic? Some of you people need to just
Speaker 1: be put down.
Speaker 8: I think it's because I had put the missing poster
Speaker 8: out on some of these social media groups that I
Speaker 8: had that I knew would be more far reaching than
Speaker 8: the posters I just had here. And I'll go because,
Speaker 8: like I said, I figured somebody had grabbed her, was
Speaker 8: on the road with her. Somebody got ahold of the
Speaker 8: poster and got my number.
Speaker 9: YEP.
Speaker 8: And it was awful because as these messages are coming in,
Speaker 8: part of you is telling yourself, this is completely illogical,
Speaker 8: you know, I mean, this isn't But the other part
Speaker 8: of you is just panicking, going you know. So I
Speaker 8: remember the detective Steake and and I want to say
Speaker 8: FBI agent was at my house that night trying to
Speaker 8: tap into this number or whatever. And the next morning,
Speaker 8: when I was in there waiting for my interview to start,
Speaker 8: they started texting again, saying, I told you you know
Speaker 8: that whatever, we're going to kill her now. And I'm
Speaker 8: just panicking in the waiting room, and so they said, well,
Speaker 8: we're going to take your phone anyway.
Speaker 2: You know, they were going to do what they do
Speaker 2: with the phones anyway.
Speaker 8: Then I went into the interview room and yeah, that's
Speaker 8: when he was just asking tons of questions.
Speaker 2: And then he got up to leave, and he had.
Speaker 8: Been gone for way too long, and I was I
Speaker 8: remember sitting there thinking to myself, God, I do not
Speaker 8: have time for this police interviewed tactic shit where you're
Speaker 8: trying to leave me in here to make me nervous. Dude,
Speaker 8: I need to get out there at buying my kid.
Speaker 8: Could you hurry this along? I remember thinking that. And
Speaker 8: then that's when he came back in and had told me, Hey,
Speaker 8: I got to talk to you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8: And he told me that they found a body. He
Speaker 8: didn't even say my daughter's body. He just said we
Speaker 8: found a body. And that's the last thing I remember.
Speaker 8: To be honest, I didn't remember anything about that until
Speaker 8: I watched the footage that they had of that, because
Speaker 8: I just I do remember going to the ground, and
Speaker 8: then the next thing I remember, I was sitting in
Speaker 8: the parking lot outside of the sheriff station on the ground,
Speaker 8: and I just remember just sirens and cop cars just
Speaker 8: flying past me on both sides, and then Buyer Department
Speaker 8: running up to me and putting me in an ambulance,
Speaker 8: and I was telling no, no, no.
Speaker 2: No, no, I gotta go, I gotta go. I gotta
Speaker 2: go find my son.
Speaker 8: And they tapped the blood pressure being and they says, no.
Speaker 2: No, honey, you're trying to have a stroke on me.
Speaker 8: And they hit something in my arm and I woke
Speaker 8: up seven hours later.
Speaker 1: When the tarp was removed, it was clear that what
Speaker 1: Brittany had gone through was horrendous. She was face down
Speaker 1: in the dirt, with her hair splayed around her head
Speaker 1: in all directions. Her pants and underwear had been pulled
Speaker 1: to her ankles, and her sweatshirt was pushed above her chest.
Speaker 1: An autopsy revealed ligature marks around her neck and a
Speaker 1: fatal stab wound in the center of her neck, just
Speaker 1: above her collarbone. By this point, footage of the high
Speaker 1: school parking lot was in and had been scrubbed for evidence,
Speaker 1: and one clip showed a dark colored truck with a
Speaker 1: silver toolbox in it. Detectives printed out photos of all
Speaker 1: the vehicles that even loosely fit Bryce's description and line
Speaker 1: them up in front of them. Then, sitting in the
Speaker 1: same interview chair that Alicia was interviewed in, Bryce took
Speaker 1: them back through the whole story once again.
Speaker 14: So you're with Brittany on the eve, just talking through
Speaker 14: that from the beginning to the end.
Speaker 3: Probably around eleven or so, started texting and she says
Speaker 3: she was in town Fordud's band practice and then.
Speaker 6: Asked upon to hang out. So got ready bent the
Speaker 6: town around one and then.
Speaker 3: On the right over the fifth Street bridge, turned on
Speaker 3: the silver and called her.
Speaker 6: She wanted me to pick her up at Angel Park,
Speaker 6: so she said she was.
Speaker 3: Going to walk down, So I called her, got to
Speaker 3: Angel Park, picked her up, and then drove around town
Speaker 3: because we had no idea what we were wanting to do,
Speaker 3: and then my dad six and asking if I would
Speaker 3: come home, So I asked her.
Speaker 6: She wanted me to drop her back off at the
Speaker 6: Angel Park or take her herd at band practice. And
Speaker 6: then she got on her phone for a minute or so, and.
Speaker 3: Then just as I could drop her off at the
Speaker 3: high school, and then pulled into the high school.
Speaker 6: And that's when I actually drove right past that. I
Speaker 6: find didn't realize that's why I was dropping her office.
Speaker 1: Bryce had not mentioned this part before.
Speaker 3: So pulled in front of high school, I gave her
Speaker 3: a hud, dropped her off, and I was.
Speaker 6: Already pulling back off. You when she's welcome back over
Speaker 6: there from fifty and then right about here, that is
Speaker 6: when you look back here and you saw Brittany standing
Speaker 6: over here and he said he was outside too.
Speaker 14: Yeah, okay, and this is about where the truck was, Yeah, correctly.
Speaker 6: And what time did you say this was about that you.
Speaker 3: Dropped about I think it was for thirty thinks. I
Speaker 3: literally just looked in my very mirror when I got there,
Speaker 3: and I just saw him and bringing outside the truck.
Speaker 15: Okay, So when you saw both of them stand next
Speaker 15: to the truck, did you see the truck too or yeah?
Speaker 6: I could.
Speaker 3: I could see the truck, but also my mirrors on
Speaker 3: my Chevy er pretty worn, so it's not the best
Speaker 3: of the use.
Speaker 6: If I recall you said something about your dad had
Speaker 6: called or something. Yeah, he texted me. Okay, so he
Speaker 6: texted you and that was to do that car or something. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 6: So what what happened after that? I just went straight
Speaker 6: back home. And then.
Speaker 3: That's why I had timeline after that for me, like
Speaker 3: starting to help coping, because the.
Speaker 6: Questioned me after I left the high school. I think
Speaker 6: I got on my phone for once.
Speaker 3: In I was just at my dad's for about an
Speaker 3: hour and a half, I think, and then went over
Speaker 3: to my mom's house.
Speaker 6: My parents are spit.
Speaker 1: Even though everyone else had been through the same rigorous
Speaker 1: interview process, being asked to retell his story so many
Speaker 1: times made Bryce feel like he was in the hot seat.
Speaker 1: In a Snapchat message thread with a mutual friend of
Speaker 1: his and Brittany's, he shared his fears. Remember, at this point,
Speaker 1: nobody but her family knew that Britney's body had been found.
Speaker 1: I just got interrogated for what the Britney shit? What
Speaker 1: they ask you literally everything, like every goddamn inch of
Speaker 1: that day.
Speaker 9: Damn, you're not in trouble though, are you not?
Speaker 1: Right now? But he was really digging like I did
Speaker 1: something to her. It was a legit interrogation had me
Speaker 1: freaked out.
Speaker 9: Dude, you and her are like dumb and dumber. There's
Speaker 9: no way you would ever hurt her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he saw that her name in my phone was
Speaker 1: little Sis, and he kept questioning me about it, and
Speaker 1: it seemed like he was making it sound like I
Speaker 1: wasn't close to her and that it was suspicious.
Speaker 9: Did you have an alibi for after you got home?
Speaker 1: Sort of? But I don't even remember what time I
Speaker 1: got home. I wasn't on my phone at all.
Speaker 9: Do you think she would run away?
Speaker 1: Honestly? No, but I don't know. I'm at a loss
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 9: We all kind of are. Nothing seems to make sense
Speaker 9: at all. My mom's friend is a sheriff, and she's
Speaker 9: asked him if he thinks that when she gets found,
Speaker 9: if she'll be found alive, and he said yes, I
Speaker 9: believe very much.
Speaker 1: So well, that's relieving.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think she's dead somewhere. Either someone's holding
Speaker 9: her somewhere or she really just up and left. I'm
Speaker 9: sure she'll turn up. It'll just take time, I sure hope.
Speaker 2: So he probably came into the picture where I can
Speaker 2: really remember it, probably about eighth ninth grade.
Speaker 8: He had been in my house multiple times, and I
Speaker 8: remember my first impression, which I don't think now, but
Speaker 8: as I used to just think, Oh, look at what
Speaker 8: a shy little kid he is, because he just kind
Speaker 8: of look at his feet. He'd never really look up.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 2: It's not so different with some of these little cowboy kids.
Speaker 8: You know, a little shy cowboy guy kicking his boots
Speaker 8: looking down, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of what I thought it was.
Speaker 8: He always had her home when she was supposed to
Speaker 8: be home, Like there was there was a weird pattern
Speaker 8: of trusts, I guess, because so many times he would
Speaker 8: be he would make sure that she was home exactly
Speaker 8: when they said they were going to be home, and
Speaker 8: you know what I mean, So there was a there
Speaker 8: was a trust there. Brittany was not a boy crazy
Speaker 8: girl in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 2: She just didn't have time for that. Yet.
Speaker 8: I'm not saying that wouldn't have come. But again, there
Speaker 8: was nothing special about Dickie. She was just a sweet
Speaker 8: soul and she would do things for people that like,
Speaker 8: he couldn't even be in the main building at school.
Speaker 8: He had to be in the trailers because you know
Speaker 8: what I.
Speaker 2: Mean, he couldn't get to school.
Speaker 8: He was having all these troubles, so he was all
Speaker 8: on his own, isolated out in these.
Speaker 2: Trailers to go to school. And Britney would feel bad
Speaker 2: about it, and she'd be like, oh man, Mom, can
Speaker 2: you get me a blue gatorade.
Speaker 8: And some and a pizza so I could take it
Speaker 8: to him so that he can have a good day,
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. But that was just Britney.
Speaker 1: Behind the scenes. While keeping Britney's death, the findings of
Speaker 1: the surveillance footage and other key pieces of evidence secret police,
Speaker 1: we're also using snapchat, of all things to paint a
Speaker 1: picture of Britney's final moments. Geolocation data showed both Brittany
Speaker 1: and Bryce at the Berner Basin Spot, a location off
Speaker 1: of Boyd Kennedy Road, at around four thirty pm. Bryce
Speaker 1: had not mentioned this trip during any of his interviews.
Speaker 1: Soon enough, the discovery of Britney's body was publicized, and
Speaker 1: her friends and family set with the reality that she
Speaker 1: was gone forever.
Speaker 9: I can't believe this. I don't know what to think
Speaker 9: or say or do. I'm so sorry, Bryce.
Speaker 1: I just found out. I love you. If you need anything,
Speaker 1: text me, I'm so sorry this happened. I have a
Speaker 1: lot of regrets that I can't take back, and that's
Speaker 1: on me. But I hope you guys don't blame me.
Speaker 1: If so, then you have the right to. But thank
Speaker 1: you for being here for me. It means the world.
Speaker 9: Bryce. We definitely do not blame you one bit. None
Speaker 9: of this is your fault, none of it. The only
Speaker 9: one who is at fault is whoever did this to her.
Speaker 9: We love you too, Bud. Keep your head up. We're
Speaker 9: here for you no matter what. If you need anything,
Speaker 9: you know how to get a hold of us. Stay strong.
Speaker 9: They'll find who did this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not letting my girl go anywhere alone. I'm
Speaker 1: having her friend at work walk her to her truck
Speaker 1: at night because I trust him. On Facebook, where the
Speaker 1: Cattle Run Free, Bryce posted this yesterday, we all received
Speaker 1: news that made us hit the floor. At around eight
Speaker 1: in the morning, we all started meeting up at my
Speaker 1: house to grieve and mourn Brittany's life, which was taken
Speaker 1: far too soon. That day, I had tears of pain
Speaker 1: and joy. I wish she could have seen the amount
Speaker 1: of us that came together to honor you.
Speaker 9: Sis.
Speaker 1: We love you so much. Just know you won't ever
Speaker 1: be forgotten.
Speaker 8: Me and Jim had actually we took the dress and
Speaker 8: the boots down to the funeral home that she was
Speaker 8: going to be cremated in, and we had just dropped
Speaker 8: him off, and we were driving home and Nick called
Speaker 8: me and he said, Alicia, there will be an arrest
Speaker 8: within the next three hours.
Speaker 2: He goes, whatever time it was right, and he goes.
Speaker 8: Can you meet me at the station in such and
Speaker 8: such time?
Speaker 2: And still didn't tell me anything. Still did not tell
Speaker 2: me anything.
Speaker 8: I had no idea he had been arrested until I
Speaker 8: got down there.
Speaker 2: To the station that day. I had no idea that
Speaker 2: he had arrested him.
Speaker 1: No, one did not yet Anyway, She was mourning, trying
Speaker 1: to hold on to what little she had left of
Speaker 1: her daughter. But as they drove toward the police station,
Speaker 1: drawing closer to that cramped interview room, Bryce Dickey was
Speaker 1: losing his grip. Every lie he told was turning against him,
Speaker 1: suffocating him. He tried to hold the story together, but
Speaker 1: much like the rest of his life, it was already
Speaker 1: starting to fall apart. Eighteen year old Bryce Dickie had
Speaker 1: spent days weaving a story, a good one, too. He
Speaker 1: lied effortlessly, which is amazing on those interviews, convincing Britney's
Speaker 1: friends and family that he was just as desperate to
Speaker 1: find her as they were. But behind closed doors, detectives
Speaker 1: weren't buying it, and they had this feeling since the
Speaker 1: very beginning. Snapchat geelocation data had placed him near Berner Basin,
Speaker 1: the place where Britney's body was found. At the time,
Speaker 1: he claimed he had already dropped her off with a
Speaker 1: cowboy in a green truck. Surveillance footage contradicted his timeline,
Speaker 1: and one by one, his lies collapsed. After hours in
Speaker 1: the interrogation room, his explanations were no longer cutting it.
Speaker 1: He wasn't dealing with the alkopd anymore either. He had
Speaker 1: entered into the big leagues and now Bryce Dickey had
Speaker 1: nowhere to run.
Speaker 6: If you could say something that Britany, what would you say?
Speaker 6: I love you? Maybe the first thing I would saying
Speaker 6: about the second, I'm sorry because myself for this, even
Speaker 6: though what we're.
Speaker 3: Playing myself, I mean, I know that I didn't know
Speaker 3: what was going to happen, but I am.
Speaker 6: I'm the last one that even sorr before she's dead.
Speaker 16: No, just out of curiosity and promise won't tell your girlfriend.
Speaker 3: Had you ever been time? I got that question the
Speaker 3: last two times. Brittany and I have never been an
Speaker 3: intimate anyway.
Speaker 6: I mean, like a lot of people get.
Speaker 3: Their wrong attentions because I mean do with all my friends,
Speaker 3: but like calling females.
Speaker 6: My female friends love and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But that's just kind of the way I was raised
Speaker 3: in a sense, the grammar wise, But Brittany and I
Speaker 3: have and I have never had relationship or had been intimate.
Speaker 3: And that's why my girlfriend was comfortable with her.
Speaker 6: Has never started with me or anything like that.
Speaker 3: Did you really want to be No? Never, I never
Speaker 3: had that honorge or anything.
Speaker 6: I literally saw Brittany as my little sister.
Speaker 1: Then they confronted Bryce with the discrepancies between his statements
Speaker 1: and what surveillance footage revealed. An image is worth a
Speaker 1: thousand words and possibly a conviction or two. He had
Speaker 1: repeatedly told investigators that he picked Brittany up at Angel
Speaker 1: Park at one thirty PM, but the cameras told a
Speaker 1: different story, showing her getting into his truck two hours
Speaker 1: later at around three point thirty pm. Not only that,
Speaker 1: but surveillance footage showed that Bryce's truck with Brittany still inside,
Speaker 1: never stopped at the high school parking lot, where he
Speaker 1: aimed she got out and got into that green F
Speaker 1: one fifty. Instead, the truck drove right past the school
Speaker 1: and continued down BOYD Kennedy Road. What was that at
Speaker 1: the end of that road? You might wonder, well, Berner Basin, wonder.
Speaker 16: If I told you we had surveillance British that a
Speaker 16: period of truck kept going out for Kenny Road.
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, here's the thing. If you're sitting here talking,
Speaker 6: I just want to clear this up.
Speaker 17: Okay, I just.
Speaker 4: Want to clear everything up and get.
Speaker 16: Your explanation for this, okay, because you seem like you say,
Speaker 16: we didn't sitting here chatting and stuff like that, okay,
Speaker 16: And I just want to kind of help you through
Speaker 16: this so that way we can kind of explain myself, okay. Okay,
Speaker 16: So with these you could kind of see from my
Speaker 16: perspective when I'm living at this what that looks like.
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, I can see. I'm I can't remember.
Speaker 3: I got startled after the the third cop I talked
Speaker 3: to them that called me down to the high school
Speaker 3: because called me a liar about three times and.
Speaker 6: Kept asking me if I killed Britney. So okay, and
Speaker 6: it honestly startled the ship animal and I don't want
Speaker 6: to I know, I mean, only been eighteen for a
Speaker 6: little bit now, but I know I'm eighteen now, so even.
Speaker 3: Changing a little bit on the story isn't a big thing.
Speaker 15: Well, it is good, okay, That's why I'm trying to
Speaker 15: sort through it.
Speaker 6: Okay. So when he talked to me, I went down
Speaker 6: Boyd a little bit but not far, and then I
Speaker 6: took that.
Speaker 3: First left off of the Boyd Kennedy which goes straight
Speaker 3: back to the right to the bottom of the trailer session,
Speaker 3: and then I went back to the high school being
Speaker 3: that boy kind of you at the same time, which
Speaker 3: wouldn't miss it worried me because I didn't want I
Speaker 3: I lied because I was scared of people think he is,
Speaker 3: which a lot of problems understanding person, yeah, which honestly
Speaker 3: scares me. But I see that there's issues with me, honest.
Speaker 2: And let everything out.
Speaker 1: Bryce looks uncomfortable at this point. He's picking at his
Speaker 1: fingernails and looking down at his feet. If we couldn't
Speaker 1: see that he's sitting inside of an interrogation room. You'd
Speaker 1: almost think he's one of those shy cowboy types.
Speaker 6: I kind of have, like a said, little thing of
Speaker 6: loops that I do when I get more dragon on
Speaker 6: the screen creak so and that's one of the ones
Speaker 6: that I do a lot of.
Speaker 3: And but being so close to him, being on what
Speaker 3: Kennedy and this is, people were saying that's where she
Speaker 3: went missing.
Speaker 6: I kind of got scared. I have one other constauant.
Speaker 18: Okay, okay, And like I said, I'm just trying to
Speaker 18: figure out what's going on, and I just want Okay,
Speaker 18: you located.
Speaker 17: Some items or item.
Speaker 6: Okay, do you have any idea what that item might
Speaker 6: be left? Okay? What if I told you to have
Speaker 6: both yours and.
Speaker 18: Britney's DNA a decade?
Speaker 2: I don't have any idea.
Speaker 4: Now it's the time to be the truthful.
Speaker 3: I'm being a hundred percent sir. I don't know what
Speaker 3: you're referring to.
Speaker 18: And you told me before that you and Brittany had
Speaker 18: never been intimate in a sexual way.
Speaker 6: Okay, what if I said I had evidence, it shows
Speaker 6: that that might not be accurate either. I'm not lying.
Speaker 3: I've never kissed, I've never had sex with Brittain, I says, hugging,
Speaker 3: and that's I've never had sex or any intimate.
Speaker 6: Relationship with Brittany. Okay. Have you ever watched TV and
Speaker 6: seen DNA comparisons? I mean, I've watch your term shows,
Speaker 6: but I haven't really paid attention to it.
Speaker 14: So you gave a DNA sample a way, Yes, we
Speaker 14: found a condom, all right, and we found Brittany, and
Speaker 14: we have Brittay's DNA we have already.
Speaker 3: It can be it is I I've never had sex
Speaker 3: with Brittany.
Speaker 6: I swear I've never had sex with Brittany. Okay. So
Speaker 6: then explained to me, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm freaking out right now because I've never had sex
Speaker 3: with Brittany.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 14: I've never had sense to me how I condom as
Speaker 14: your DNA and side on the outside.
Speaker 1: There could be no other explanation for something like that.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say, the evil that he is, I
Speaker 2: think he thought about it for a while.
Speaker 8: I think that's why they got him on premeditated too,
Speaker 8: because I think that I absolutely think he thought about it.
Speaker 8: I had heard some weird stories about his journals. I
Speaker 8: never continued to like ask or push for them. But
Speaker 8: now I think he's a sick six son of a bitch,
Speaker 8: and I think he sat and probably thought about it
Speaker 8: and fantasized about it a lot.
Speaker 1: I want to hear one of these sick puppies poems.
Speaker 1: Of course you do, because you're also sick puppy, and
Speaker 1: that's probably why you're here. This lovely passage is called
Speaker 1: the sick truth. Okay, so you ready, There we go.
Speaker 1: I'm laying in the dark of night. My mind is fighting,
Speaker 1: turning my thoughts into a game like Russian Roulette, slowly
Speaker 1: pulling its trigger, trigger, trigger, waiting for the moment the
Speaker 1: fight will end. I hate the way I feel tonight.
Speaker 1: I open my eyes, yet nothing changes. I hear him
Speaker 1: screaming in my dreams, that dream in my head. But wait,
Speaker 1: I'm awake. It's me, it's me, it's me, I am screaming.
Speaker 1: The gun didn't kill me, It only stirred the pot.
Speaker 1: Now the demons have awoken. They will no longer lurk
Speaker 1: in the dark. They crawl out of my dream and
Speaker 1: into day, a predator hunting my actions. I turned my
Speaker 1: cheek to pretend it's not there. He's waiting for me.
Speaker 1: To slip. My weakness feeds the beast, for each step
Speaker 1: I take is filled with fear. Help me, please, I'm begging.
Speaker 1: I know you can't hear me screaming. I can't startle
Speaker 1: the demons, but I'm leaving you a trail of breadcrumbs.
Speaker 1: You won't see it, though, will you. I'll have to
Speaker 1: fight this day by my own persistence. My silence is
Speaker 1: not a phase. It's me hiding. Thank you for teaching
Speaker 1: me what it's like to feel, to have nights screaming
Speaker 1: like I'm dying, learning how to put a mask over
Speaker 1: my drained body. Without you, I wouldn't no pain. But
Speaker 1: while everyone's moving on, I still hold my sights on
Speaker 1: the back of your skull. Goal go slowly squeezing the trigger,
Speaker 1: waiting for the moment the pain will unfold. They will
Speaker 1: not understand why I pulled it. I was not an
Speaker 1: action of easy consequence. In the end, your breath was
Speaker 1: far too much to take. I hope it was worth it,
Speaker 1: because now we shall both be on our sentence to hell.
Speaker 1: And some of you call me edgy.
Speaker 8: The closest thing that we could compare him to is Dahmer.
Speaker 2: He's that sick he's that twisted. He's a necrophiliac. He's
Speaker 2: a control freak, you know. Okay, so maybe he liked girls.
Speaker 8: But the level of disgusted twistedness is Jeffrey Dahmer level
Speaker 8: with dot kid. Well, you know, I know as our mother,
Speaker 8: you know, I think backwards in time, and when she
Speaker 8: would see things on TV, she would tell me, I
Speaker 8: just want you to know that if anybody tries to
Speaker 8: rape me, they will kill me because they'll never rate me.
Speaker 8: And he absolutely desecrated her dead body, which blows the
Speaker 8: defense's theory out of the water.
Speaker 2: And I think that I think.
Speaker 8: Actually that's what happened because the defense was running with
Speaker 8: this theory. Well there was no tearing or there was
Speaker 8: no you know, the normal signs of rape and are
Speaker 8: phenomenal DA because he's amazing. I think he stood up
Speaker 8: and he asked one question and he goes.
Speaker 2: My question is if the you know, the person is
Speaker 2: decease when those kinds of things happen. She's like, nope,
Speaker 2: absolutely not.
Speaker 8: So absolutely I will peg him to the world as
Speaker 8: a necrophiliac.
Speaker 6: Answer a question, I going to get a confession.
Speaker 15: I'm trying to figure out how your DNA gone on
Speaker 15: a condom on the inside that has her DNA on
Speaker 15: the inside.
Speaker 4: I need to figure out what.
Speaker 6: Happened with that condom.
Speaker 4: Our job is to work. Is hard to prove innocence
Speaker 4: as it is good if you need to do this.
Speaker 4: What works in the end of the earth to prove
Speaker 4: that you needn't do this, But that requires.
Speaker 19: Honesty on your end, because the stuff we have indicates
Speaker 19: hasn't been there.
Speaker 1: Bryce ends up telling detectives that Brittany performed oral sex
Speaker 1: while they were in the truck and when she was done,
Speaker 1: she threw the condom out the window. This was another lie,
Speaker 1: of course.
Speaker 15: When I was at the scene with Brittain, I found
Speaker 15: a condom where one of our people found a condom
Speaker 15: that was you know, Brittany was at. And there was
Speaker 15: also a common after that was on the roadway as well.
Speaker 15: In that commum that I told you about is much
Speaker 15: closer to where Brittany was found.
Speaker 6: And this is not where Brittany was fout.
Speaker 20: Okay, I just told you. I just want to try.
Speaker 20: I'm telling the truth. That is where I That's where
Speaker 20: it happened. What happened for Brittany and my head. I
Speaker 20: don't know if it's count of sex. I think it's
Speaker 20: a sexual acts.
Speaker 3: So that is where Brittany and I had sex, and
Speaker 3: then straight after I went straight to the trailer section
Speaker 3: and that was that was it, okay?
Speaker 14: And did you ever have any sort of intercourse or
Speaker 14: or otherwise anywhere else with Britain?
Speaker 3: Just just the blow job that was since like two
Speaker 3: maybe three kisses, and that was about it.
Speaker 6: Honestly, there wasn't my sheep.
Speaker 3: It was almost didn't seem real in a sense because
Speaker 3: she literally just asked if I wasn't a blow drop.
Speaker 3: It did not quite seem real almost.
Speaker 1: That's because it wasn't real, duh.
Speaker 6: Her testing her friend actually did happen.
Speaker 3: And she asked me to drop her off with somebody
Speaker 3: I don't know who it was, and he actually had
Speaker 3: met us on Voyd and I didn't actually meet the
Speaker 3: guy or anything.
Speaker 6: I get through this together.
Speaker 3: Everything everything mess ups on the timeline is true. That
Speaker 3: was the exact same track that I saw. I honestly
Speaker 3: couldn't tell you how the gut was that close to
Speaker 3: Brittany's body.
Speaker 6: I don't know how that happened, because Brittany was still
Speaker 6: alive by the time.
Speaker 3: I dropped her off on the road with whe the
Speaker 3: guy was.
Speaker 6: I just wasn't thinking at all and I dropped her
Speaker 6: off and we just drew her off price. Okay, I'll
Speaker 6: let you look at from my perspective.
Speaker 17: Okay, you've told us several different versions.
Speaker 15: Okay, do you really expect me to believe that you
Speaker 15: met a die after you.
Speaker 6: Guys had had sex and you just dropped.
Speaker 17: Britain off with him and you don't know who that was?
Speaker 6: You're you're a smart guy. I'm a smart guy. Okay,
Speaker 6: I have it, but I honestly don't know who is.
Speaker 15: So I need you. Okay, you just think about it
Speaker 15: from my perspective. When we started out today, I just
Speaker 15: I just wanted to tru okay, and then the story changed.
Speaker 15: The story has changed it again, the stories.
Speaker 1: Even after being called out for changing his story so
Speaker 1: many times, Bryce was about to do it again. What
Speaker 1: a fucking idiot. He points his guilty finger directly at
Speaker 1: an innocent kid named Chaz Randall. Poor Chazz didn't even
Speaker 1: know we gave it was.
Speaker 6: Back in town.
Speaker 3: It was the Chaz random is the one I picked
Speaker 3: her up. I swear, I swear it was Jazz rand
Speaker 3: That kid's kind of distinguishable.
Speaker 6: So you're telling the jazz Randall that you're on the road.
Speaker 19: I told you what and you've known the chance, random Brittany,
Speaker 19: and you're just waiting to say something.
Speaker 21: Do you love yourself as a person to see who
Speaker 21: are alive? You expects us to believe that you might
Speaker 21: be I was the last person to see you alive.
Speaker 21: I put myself in that position, and I'm going to
Speaker 21: stay here for a week and a half letting you
Speaker 21: what to think. I was the last one to see
Speaker 21: you alive when I know who's the last person your live?
Speaker 21: Do you think we're going to believe that you're smarter
Speaker 21: than that?
Speaker 17: I that's okay.
Speaker 6: You guys are just looking for a confession.
Speaker 4: I'm looking for the fast matchup.
Speaker 6: What facts don't match up? Right now? Okay? I think
Speaker 6: you know I don't like it lost.
Speaker 4: Do you think we've been doing nothing for the last week?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 6: I think you guys are working to a ton of people.
Speaker 19: Your name is kind of a lot, and the conversations
Speaker 19: they've had with you, but your story is to us
Speaker 19: don't And.
Speaker 6: I don't know how that is.
Speaker 19: So you're what's that nice to believe that you drop
Speaker 19: her off? And her body and appear where the kind
Speaker 19: and by some strange frequency.
Speaker 6: I did not kill.
Speaker 3: Brittany, but I imagine being in my position trying to explain.
Speaker 22: This if you she ended up dead, but I realized
Speaker 22: she disappeared on the eighth. You've been sitting in this
Speaker 22: knowledge without saying.
Speaker 11: Because I've had the entire town of Spring Creek asking
Speaker 11: me if I've killed Brittany.
Speaker 4: And you might as well have if you didn't see it,
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 17: Okay, sorry, Yeah, So this is the story that you're
Speaker 17: gonna still with.
Speaker 2: Sir.
Speaker 9: Fee.
Speaker 1: It was March nineteenth, twenty twenty eleven, days after Brittany's
Speaker 1: disappearance and her killer was finally in handcuffs. The people
Speaker 1: closest to Brittany had trusted Bryce. They trusted this kid.
Speaker 1: He'd been part of their lives, part of their search,
Speaker 1: and part of their grief. But looking back, perhaps some
Speaker 1: had felt it that's something just wasn't right.
Speaker 2: Jim tells me that he was instantly suspicious of him.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I wasn't. I just guess they
Speaker 2: just lived in this fantasy world, which.
Speaker 8: Is maybe partly why I want to do her story
Speaker 8: so much. As people need to understand that you need
Speaker 8: to have a little bit of healthy dose of reality
Speaker 8: and fear, you know what I mean, and maybe question
Speaker 8: people more than I did, because I had I didn't
Speaker 8: think he had it in him.
Speaker 1: Most people were blindsided by the arret, especially Bryce and
Speaker 1: Britney's mutual friends. Bryce couldn't read a snapchat messages behind bars,
Speaker 1: but his phone was digging away with an onslaught of
Speaker 1: verbal attacks. If words are violence, which they're not, by
Speaker 1: the way, then this was an outright execution.
Speaker 9: You're a serious piece of shit. We were all there
Speaker 9: for you, cried with you, and all you did was
Speaker 9: play us all like a fucking puppet master. All I
Speaker 9: can say is, don't ever dare to show your face
Speaker 9: in this town again.
Speaker 2: I think I didn't. I think I didn't know what
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 8: I think I probably sat quiet for that whole night
Speaker 8: because I just couldn't.
Speaker 2: I just couldn't.
Speaker 8: Bathom what I had just been told, you know what
Speaker 8: I mean, Because first off, you should have seen that
Speaker 8: little girl throw a haybell. And I don't know if
Speaker 8: you've picked up a haybell, but them things suck heavy.
Speaker 2: She could throw him, you know what I mean?
Speaker 8: Like he probably truly had to think about how he
Speaker 8: was going to come at her so that he could
Speaker 8: get the upper hand, because this little girl was no
Speaker 8: weak little girl, and Dicky was a geek that had
Speaker 8: get his ass kicked by anybody. I still don't understand.
Speaker 8: His body type is unathletic and dowe and weak. I
Speaker 8: still don't understand. The only thing I can think of
Speaker 8: is it was she was taken by such surprise, and
Speaker 8: I guarantee who came from behind, you know, because she
Speaker 8: had his DNA under all ten of her fingernails. As
Speaker 8: you know that all ten of her fingernails had his
Speaker 8: DNA under them. So she fought, but he managed to
Speaker 8: keep out. Like sometimes I wish that we could go
Speaker 8: back and make him take his shirt off in those
Speaker 8: first couple interviews with you know what I mean, because
Speaker 8: I would love to have seen where she got him,
Speaker 8: because she got him, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: She got him.
Speaker 1: Bryce Dickey was booked and charged with first degree murder
Speaker 1: and sexual assault with a deadly weapon. There was no
Speaker 1: bail set. Bryce, who was almost certainly cooking up another
Speaker 1: story to explain away Brittany's death, pleaded not guilty. No surprise,
Speaker 1: there Why would you take accountability, you fucking psychopath. At trial,
Speaker 1: Bryce's mother, Cynthia, was served with a subpoena to testify
Speaker 1: against her son. She shared that Bryce had been seeing
Speaker 1: a counselor for bipolar disorder and depressive tendencies, but he
Speaker 1: wasn't on medication. It's hard to feel sympathy for the
Speaker 1: killer's parents, but I mean, what else could you do.
Speaker 1: You're seeking treatment for your son. You're doing all the
Speaker 1: right things, and sometimes that's just not enough. Bryce's ex
Speaker 1: girlfriend also testified that he choked her during sex without
Speaker 1: consent on multiple occasions. They were clues, but they were
Speaker 1: scattered and probably kept private. Though it was probably uncomfortable
Speaker 1: for Bryce to sit through his former loved ones making
Speaker 1: a case against his character, no one was more unhappy
Speaker 1: about having to endure a trial than Britney's parents. Jim
Speaker 1: and Alicia sat in the courtroom every day, forced to
Speaker 1: watch Bryce's parents fan the flames of romance as prosecutors
Speaker 1: showed photos of their daughter's bloodied corpse.
Speaker 2: The murder of my daughter brought those two back together.
Speaker 2: It was quite disgusting to watch. They had been divorced,
Speaker 2: and then when we were going through a trial.
Speaker 8: Those two disgusting humans sat there, loving on each other
Speaker 8: and cuddling.
Speaker 2: Like it was a movie gate. I wanted to rip
Speaker 2: their hair out. I'm not gonna lie. Sitting in that
Speaker 2: courtroom for that trial was probably one of the hardest
Speaker 2: things I've ever done in my life. It had been
Speaker 2: pounded into my head so much. Don't do anything that
Speaker 2: could you know what I mean? Oh I didn't, But
Speaker 2: I tell you what.
Speaker 8: I had a friend though, that let her have it.
Speaker 2: When the verdict got read.
Speaker 8: You know, the bail up even came after my friend
Speaker 8: and was like, you need to be quiet, you know,
Speaker 8: But because yeah.
Speaker 2: You can't, you can't say anything. You can't have any emotion,
Speaker 2: which is really hard in a trial.
Speaker 8: Everything had happened, and I have my own questions, you know,
Speaker 8: I still have my own questions about his mother. I'm
Speaker 8: not sure that anybody will ever convince me that she
Speaker 8: didn't help him clean up.
Speaker 2: I don't think that she knew about it. I don't
Speaker 2: think anything like that.
Speaker 8: But you'll never convince me that she didn't help him
Speaker 8: clean up and get rid of things.
Speaker 2: You'll never convince.
Speaker 6: Me of that.
Speaker 1: The jury's verdict was a resounding guilty. Initially, he received
Speaker 1: twenty years to life in prison with the possibility of parole,
Speaker 1: but that was before the court tacked on an additional
Speaker 1: fifty years for the use of deadly weapons. Bryce Dickey
Speaker 1: had a life sentence that he very much deserves. But
Speaker 1: what many people forget is the life sentence suffered by
Speaker 1: the families of the murdered victims. When all the hooplah
Speaker 1: goes away, you're left with the reality that your loved
Speaker 1: one is never coming back.
Speaker 8: That's been actually a huge journey for me because he
Speaker 8: did sentence me to a lifetime of rage and anger,
Speaker 8: and it is intense. And I remember a couple of
Speaker 8: years ago, I just was looking in the mirror and
Speaker 8: I'm like, okay, self, you know.
Speaker 2: This rage, of this anger that you're feeling.
Speaker 8: We've got to find a more healthy way to do this,
Speaker 8: because your heart is pounding out of your chest. You're
Speaker 8: adrenaline is busting so much that all you do is
Speaker 8: shake and thank goodness, he is not where I could.
Speaker 2: Get my hands on him.
Speaker 8: I'm not like him, and I don't think I guarantee
Speaker 8: you I wouldn't take his life, but oh I would
Speaker 8: beat him silly with a shoe.
Speaker 2: Okay, would I know? The rage is really hard to
Speaker 2: deal with.
Speaker 8: Actually, it's something that I fight daily and it affects
Speaker 8: every aspect of my life. Britney's key phrase is flowers
Speaker 8: makes everything better. Go ahead and take the extra five
Speaker 8: minutes out of your day to be extra nice to somebody,
Speaker 8: because that's what Brittany was about. She was about taking
Speaker 8: the extra couple minutes that it might take to make
Speaker 8: people smile and make people feel loved and make people
Speaker 8: feel safe in a very unsafe world.
Speaker 2: So if you're going to.
Speaker 8: Ever be like Brittany, take five minutes and be humble,
Speaker 8: be kind, and make somebody smile, because that was Brittany's
Speaker 8: life and you would have never found a better advocate
Speaker 8: for somebody to love people as Brittany. And just everybody
Speaker 8: just be nice, emulate Brittany, make people feel safe, and
Speaker 8: always remember a healthy dose of distrust is a very
Speaker 8: good thing.
Speaker 1: And what does a healthy dose of distrust look like
Speaker 1: in a situation where there are no red flags?
Speaker 8: I've thought about that and the only thing I could
Speaker 8: come up with, the only thing.
Speaker 2: That I could come up with is be insistent.
Speaker 8: On more than two. If there would have been one
Speaker 8: more person there, Okay, three or more. That's the only
Speaker 8: thing because, believe me, for the last what almost five years,
Speaker 8: I've gone over that almost daily in my head, and
Speaker 8: the only thing.
Speaker 2: I could think of is really.
Speaker 8: Push that issue that groups are where it's at, not
Speaker 8: two people. If one more person would have been in
Speaker 8: the truck that day, I promise you that wouldn't happened.
Speaker 2: You know, so I'd say.
Speaker 8: That's the only thing I've been able to come up
Speaker 8: with is never be too.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, the world sucks, especially for kids nowadays.
Speaker 8: It's sad, but never be so comfortable with somebody that
Speaker 8: you think you can just take off down a dirt road,
Speaker 8: which is you and one other person.
Speaker 2: Always make sure there's three or more.
Speaker 1: You grow up being told to watch out for strangers,
Speaker 1: to be wary of the dark alley, the unknown number,
Speaker 1: the unfamiliar car pulling up to the curb. But the
Speaker 1: truth is danger doesn't always look like danger, you know that, right,
Speaker 1: and trust, well, trust is a dangerous thing. Brittany trusted Bryce,
Speaker 1: her family trusted Bryce, and in the end that trust
Speaker 1: was misplaced. So turned to Snapchat. She, like so many others,
Speaker 1: believed what the app promised that messages, locations, and memories
Speaker 1: could vanish with the tap of a button, that no
Speaker 1: one could ever trace where you had been or who
Speaker 1: you had been with. But Snapchat doesn't make things disappear,
Speaker 1: not really, Because when Brittany went missing, the app she
Speaker 1: relied on to erase her footsteps became the very thing
Speaker 1: that exposed them. The digital trail she thought was gone
Speaker 1: was still there, waiting to be found. Kids are dumb
Speaker 1: if you don't realize that, in twenty twenty five you
Speaker 1: have no privacy whatsoever. I don't know what to tell
Speaker 1: you other than you're dumb too. Sorry. It is what
Speaker 1: it is. Nothing really disappears, not in life, not in death,
Speaker 1: and certainly not in truth. You can obfiscate it all
Speaker 1: you want, but truth finds a way of revealing itself.
Speaker 1: Technology changes, laws change, but human nature the stuff we
Speaker 1: talk about here, that pretty much stays the same. We
Speaker 1: trust because we want to believe the good in people.
Speaker 1: We want to believe that people around us are inherently good.
Speaker 1: Makes life easier. In fact, we trust because it's easier
Speaker 1: than considering the alternative. Nobody wants to live in paranoia.
Speaker 1: Believe me, it's exhausting. But trust is also a choice,
Speaker 1: and as Alicia said, a healthy dose of distrust just
Speaker 1: might be the thing that keeps you safe. You ever
Speaker 1: finished an episode and feel emotionally exhausted, No, of course
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't have a podcast. It's lovely here anyway.
Speaker 1: We say this every week, but I mean stay safe,
Speaker 1: and please, please, please take that extra effort to keep
Speaker 1: your kids safe. They may seem real independent and real
Speaker 1: mature and real adult like, but do not be fooled.
Speaker 1: It's a very, very scary world out there, and kids
Speaker 1: just don't know any better. They're dumb. It's not their fault.
Speaker 1: They haven't figured it out yet. It's up to you,
Speaker 1: the parent, to do it for them, all right, See
Speaker 1: you next week, su