WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.360 --> 00:00:03.600 How you doing out there? It's me Tigger. 2 00:00:03.879 --> 00:00:05.519 I am Duc Wayne Duck. 3 00:00:05.799 --> 00:00:08.599 It's me Bunkers keep bobcat All right, y'all? 4 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:09.199 Did it great? 5 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:13.240 Your favorite firefly you desire? Hold no old knock guy. 6 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:16.519 My name is Jim Cummings and welcome to tuned In. 7 00:00:18.519 --> 00:00:20.960 Welcome back everybody to another episode of Tuned In with 8 00:00:21.039 --> 00:00:23.960 Jim Commings. Today we have Brandon Rogers joining us. Thank 9 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:25.760 you so much for joining us. 10 00:00:25.760 --> 00:00:27.800 My pleasure to be Thank you for having me inside 11 00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:28.399 of your building. 12 00:00:28.399 --> 00:00:30.280 Oh my gosh, of course, of course, how are you 13 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:30.839 doing today? 14 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:32.840 I'm doing great well. I came here for the air 15 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:37.640 conditioning because he is oh stee. I was just telling 16 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:41.719 you off Off Mike that my family is totally head 17 00:00:41.759 --> 00:00:43.640 over heels that I'm even here with you today. 18 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:44.840 Oh that's great. 19 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:47.240 The fact that our voice is that there's nothing between 20 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:50.320 our voices, that my the things that I've come out 21 00:00:50.359 --> 00:00:52.920 of my mouth and the beloved items that've come out 22 00:00:52.920 --> 00:00:55.479 of your there's no glass between these. 23 00:00:55.880 --> 00:01:00.560 Yeah, yeah, well we'll we'll be a tripping the light 24 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:04.560 fantastic here or whatever that expression is. Well, thanks for being. 25 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:05.599 Here, Thank yous for having me. 26 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:08.040 It is my honor to hey, thank you, thank you, 27 00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:11.519 because we've been aware of each other from being on 28 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:14.439 the road. So yeah, and I think that's it's like 29 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:17.400 being in rock and roll these days. You know, Will 30 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:20.640 I'm playing Cleveland, Yeah next week, you know. And it's 31 00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:21.159 kind of cool. 32 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:24.159 Yeah, you're kind of like my carnival family. I like 33 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:27.040 to call it because I only ever there's a large 34 00:01:27.040 --> 00:01:30.599 group of people with cons that you. 35 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:31.040 I'll give you some background music. 36 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:36.680 I was like, that is a weird berd, but yeah, 37 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:38.719 it's it's it's crazy because I only there's a large 38 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:43.079 group of people that I only associate with seeing only 39 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:45.879 out of town, so you see only out of town 40 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:49.560 face here at home. Yeah, it is kind of it's comforting. 41 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:52.760 Yeah, what the heck. Oh I'm glad. I'm glad. Comforting 42 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:55.079 is the word you used. It's like I want to 43 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:56.159 hold up a crucifixion. 44 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:01.079 Very cool. My skin isn't so. I think we're I 45 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:01.640 think we're good. 46 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:07.120 Yeah that's good. Well, speaking of your skin burning, Yes, 47 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:10.840 you've got a couple of interesting animated projects out there, 48 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:11.800 Ladies and gentlemen. 49 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:13.039 Where's the segueing? 50 00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:17.039 Oh yeah, well yeah, where could that possibly be added? Well? 51 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:21.000 Uh, yeah, I play quite a devilish little guy. Yeah, 52 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:23.960 it's a hell based show, a hell of a boss. 53 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:26.159 And then it's sister show has been Hotel, and I'm 54 00:02:26.199 --> 00:02:27.560 lucky enough to be in both of them. 55 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:31.159 Yeah, it's tearing it up in both of them. Oh, 56 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:34.560 thank you, thank eating the world up in both of them. Well, 57 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:35.280 I'm good for you. 58 00:02:35.400 --> 00:02:38.000 That is a massive compliment coming from you, because I 59 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:40.960 don't have I'm a very new voice actor and so, 60 00:02:41.759 --> 00:02:43.439 and it took me a long time to get over. 61 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:45.439 I'm still sort of getting over if I if I 62 00:02:45.479 --> 00:02:47.599 had any imposter syndrome walking through the door, it's gone 63 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:48.680 now after you said that. 64 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:51.400 Oh well good, No, I think you're I think you're there. 65 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:53.439 You're going to be part of the furniture. 66 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:55.000 Oh my god, I would love to. I hope I'm 67 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:57.639 a stool right up. 68 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:00.520 I left my sticks in the car, damn it. 69 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:04.400 I uh yeah, I was going down your roster. I 70 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:06.879 did not realize last night. I was just watching clips 71 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:12.199 from your movies, and I did not realize how you 72 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:14.080 joke like, oh, I'm the voice you grew up with, 73 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:17.479 But I didn't realize just how much of my childhood 74 00:03:17.520 --> 00:03:17.960 you were. 75 00:03:18.199 --> 00:03:22.240 How sick of me you were. How'm tired of hearing them? 76 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:24.599 But you were, Oh my god. 77 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:27.000 You made the cheshure cat so soothing to watch. 78 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:31.039 That's you, well only recently. The one from the forties 79 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:31.759 was somebody else. 80 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:34.520 No, but I but but your voice is and I 81 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:36.680 know the one. I know. I know the difference because 82 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:39.319 if he was here now I'm pretty sure he's dead. 83 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:41.520 Is yeah, yeah, rest yeah, that would that would be 84 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:45.439 you know, yeah. But but it's it's I can hear 85 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:49.199 like I can hear notes of that cheshure cat, but 86 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:51.919 I can also hear just talking to you, notes of who, 87 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:55.240 and I could hear notes of who's the big one 88 00:03:55.240 --> 00:03:57.400 with the big genre where. 89 00:03:57.120 --> 00:04:01.000 There you go, buddy, you must be a friend of 90 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:03.759 the goofy. That's Pete, Pete, Pete. 91 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:06.319 It's like, I can, that's good, subtly hear all. And 92 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:08.599 maybe it's just because we're in person, you've you've got 93 00:04:08.599 --> 00:04:11.280 a really good ear, but well, it's it's, it's there. 94 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:13.039 It's like a little sp if I really listen. It's 95 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:15.199 the same with like Richard Horbitz, if you can kind 96 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:17.639 of hear little fractions of them just in a speaking 97 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:20.480 with all the characters, and it is cool because I 98 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:22.199 know so many of your characters and to kind of 99 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:24.639 hear them all summed up in a normal voice. Oh, 100 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:26.439 it is a trip right next to me. 101 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:29.040 Yeah, well thanks. I you know, I've always said I've 102 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:31.879 had kind of a mid range voice, so it's not 103 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:34.879 too big a journey to go higher or lower because 104 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:36.680 I'm kind of right in the middle. That's what I've 105 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:37.639 always thought about it. 106 00:04:37.839 --> 00:04:40.000 Yeah, well it's it's I guess it is right in 107 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:43.199 the Yeah, just mid range. It's but I mean that 108 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:46.120 that's why you would probably have such a wide cavalcade 109 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:47.000 of rolls. 110 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:49.560 Something like that, plus a lot of inner turmoil. 111 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:53.839 In turnoil really adds to the spice. It does. It does. 112 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:56.519 And speaking of Richard Horbit's one of my favorite things. 113 00:04:57.199 --> 00:05:01.040 When I've uh first met him. One of the craziest things. 114 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:02.800 You said, well, I know you've heard me, but you 115 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:06.600 always thought I was a woman, and I, well, I 116 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:09.680 don't know. Oh, come on, yes you did. And I said, 117 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:11.600 all right, all right, you do sound like my aunt Grace. 118 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:15.399 All right, are you happy? Grace? 119 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:20.600 Oh my gosho ga Grace with the Richard Horowitz voice. 120 00:05:20.680 --> 00:05:22.399 Oh gosh da Well. 121 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:24.920 Yeah, he you know, it really did help getting and 122 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:28.600 you know, going into this because Blitz is a main character, 123 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:31.000 he's the lead of a show, and he's my first 124 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:35.079 ever voice kid. It was very The creator of the 125 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:40.959 show specifically wanted, I guess my tone for this particular protagonist. 126 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:43.360 So she was very familiar with who I was on 127 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:46.319 the internet, and she said, okay, that so sure, and 128 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:48.240 we I don't know if any of us really knew 129 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:50.040 the show was going to take off. She just wanted 130 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:53.560 me to be the center voice of this pilot that 131 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:55.319 I guess she was going to pitch or was just 132 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:57.639 supposed to be a proof of concept of a different show, 133 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:00.560 and it took off in all of a sudden, I 134 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:06.519 found myself in like a union production with co stars 135 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:09.079 like Richard Horwitz and Erica Linbeck and people that are 136 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:12.720 very successful in this industry, and so to be among 137 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:15.759 them as the as the lead character. There were many, 138 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:19.279 many months, if not years, where I had a very tense, 139 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:22.160 like like imposters around my neck. 140 00:06:22.360 --> 00:06:23.120 Whole it was. 141 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:25.399 I mean, I didn't let it affect the performance, but no, 142 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:27.680 I mean it affected just how I saw myself and 143 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:30.160 how I saw my like how I existed in this 144 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:32.040 world around me. That I was very you know, you 145 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:33.839 better be you know, it's it's it's like almost like 146 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:36.120 it's a lot of pressure to be grateful and to 147 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:37.720 make sure you're doing the right thing with this role, 148 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:39.920 that you're not squandering this role that other. 149 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:40.279 You know. 150 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:43.639 So after a while, you know, when I saw the show, 151 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:46.319 once I saw it cut and animated, I really understood 152 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:48.680 the character. I go, Okay, she's going for this, especially 153 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:50.480 with how she animates him. I was getting more of 154 00:06:50.519 --> 00:06:52.920 the of the physicality of him and why she chose 155 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:56.959 my voice. But then having Richard, who directs the vocal 156 00:06:57.000 --> 00:07:01.399 directs the show. He's just so selfless in the way 157 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:04.120 that he works with people. He makes you, he like 158 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:09.079 builds you up. It's a it's all positive reinforcement. Yeah. 159 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:11.680 And and to have someone like him, who I also 160 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:14.199 you know, grew up watching on TV and show films, 161 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:17.959 kind of be this reassuring voice behind the glass of 162 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:21.199 like telling me what he liked about it. And also 163 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:23.560 if he would let me improvise, if I improvised something, 164 00:07:23.920 --> 00:07:25.600 he would go, oh yeah, and then he would feed 165 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:29.199 me back a version of my variant, like polishing that version. 166 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:32.120 And so then I once I knew he trusted me 167 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:35.839 with just inherently with the material, the performance, he trusted 168 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:37.800 me with my improvit. It really made me kind of 169 00:07:37.839 --> 00:07:39.360 loosen up and kind of go, Okay, this is a 170 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:42.279 safe space in here for me to explore this character. 171 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:44.079 Oh well, you're just killing it. 172 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:47.519 You're you're doing You did a fantastic job. I'm surprised 173 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:49.000 that that was your first voice act. 174 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:52.439 Yeah, it's I put a lot of I really study 175 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:54.600 those lines and rehearse them in the in the car. 176 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:57.360 I remember saying, you know, even like my first song 177 00:07:57.399 --> 00:07:59.240 on the series, I would sing that for days. I 178 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:02.160 was singing those lyrics over and over. It's because you 179 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:04.800 don't want to, you know. It's of course it's your 180 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:08.160 first the song, the first song, the first song, it's 181 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:11.439 a duet that I have with Bryce Pinkham, who is 182 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:17.959 a Broadway singer. So the pressures at all, I still 183 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:20.160 can I can like get myself to that nervousness just 184 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:22.319 thinking about it, like I get work. I remember my 185 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:24.560 heart pounding in the car and I'm cranking up the 186 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:28.319 volume because they sent me the demo track that which 187 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:31.279 Sam Half. Sam Half who composes a lot of these songs. 188 00:08:31.319 --> 00:08:35.480 He's also a brilliant singer. So I'm hearing his demo 189 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:37.919 track and singing along to it and trying to really 190 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:40.799 get my my notes to match. And and also he 191 00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:43.720 writes very fast lyrics for me. He writes, it's almost 192 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:47.879 like like eminem fast and so I I. 193 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:49.799 Which, I think, no pressure that no. 194 00:08:49.679 --> 00:08:52.960 Pressure, it was it was. I remember it being a 195 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:57.559 very rough first half of that session, just getting myself 196 00:08:57.600 --> 00:09:00.360 because I wasn't used to singing. I wasn't even used 197 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:02.320 to voice acting still at the time. And so now 198 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:04.639 I'm having a voice saying, you know, which is different 199 00:09:04.799 --> 00:09:06.480 and I have. I had a really bad habit, by 200 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:08.559 the way, my whole the whole first season of the show, 201 00:09:08.679 --> 00:09:11.960 I would always go like this with oh wow in 202 00:09:12.039 --> 00:09:17.919 different directions, right, it's like sound of music, yeah, with 203 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:20.320 the thing in her in her brazier or whatever. And 204 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:21.679 so I was in the bush. 205 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:23.320 I forget where it was. 206 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:25.840 I forget where they put the mic. They stuffed it somewhere, okay, 207 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:31.840 uh anyway, but yeah, so so it this. I've only 208 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:35.159 had two roles at least that I could talk about 209 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:39.200 voice acting, uh, that are out there and it so 210 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:41.159 I can't wait to get to a point one day 211 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:44.200 where I'm able to be you know, I see people 212 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:47.480 like you and Tara and Gray at these conventions with 213 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:50.480 like this whole roster of characters, and that is it 214 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:53.000 is cool now seeing, Oh, I can work toward that, 215 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:55.440 like I can I can have, you know, And that 216 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:58.240 was never on the table for me before this role 217 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:00.960 because I never considered myself of I never thought I 218 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:03.639 would ever be a voice actor. And so now I 219 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:07.039 get to see what that's like through the eyes of 220 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:09.320 you know, Richard and everyone he's worked with for so long. 221 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:11.320 I get to see what that road looks like, and 222 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:16.080 it's it is much more lucrative and fun than the 223 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:17.559 route of YouTube. 224 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:20.480 Oh, I would think, Yeah. 225 00:10:19.960 --> 00:10:21.879 But you've been doing YouTube for a while, for a. 226 00:10:21.799 --> 00:10:23.519 Long time, since I was in high school. I remember 227 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:25.559 I made my the YouTube account that I still upload 228 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:28.360 videos on today. I made that in my high school library. 229 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:29.799 Wow, and that was kid. 230 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:34.840 Yeah, I'm thirty six at school year it was two 231 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:38.720 thousand and six, so I was right when you started. Yeah, 232 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:40.399 it was about a year old. Technically they started in 233 00:10:40.440 --> 00:10:42.840 two thousand and five. But yeah, I remember thinking, because 234 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:45.080 at the time I would make YouTube, I would make 235 00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:49.080 videos on like vhs you know, cam quarders, and we 236 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:51.679 would put once a week we would screen them in 237 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:54.759 a classroom with a teacher would let us gather in 238 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:57.840 a classroom at lunch and we would just spend the hour, 239 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:01.320 you know, watching whatever it was we made. And there 240 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:03.679 was a real satisfaction to like, whatever you put on 241 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:06.759 camera can go in front of people, like it goes 242 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:09.440 on the screen. Whatever we capture in this little tiny device. 243 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:12.879 And we were making movies in like a field somewhere, 244 00:11:12.879 --> 00:11:15.360 like we were on another planet. It was just like 245 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:17.399 a way to be a like a to hang out 246 00:11:17.440 --> 00:11:19.200 with your friends. It was a really satisfying way to 247 00:11:19.200 --> 00:11:23.080 hang with people, and b it was really cathartic to 248 00:11:23.120 --> 00:11:25.440 sort of express yourself and play different characters and then 249 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:28.000 put them in front knowing that every Friday at lunch 250 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:29.120 we were all going to watch this. 251 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:29.600 You can do it. 252 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:31.200 Yeah, And we had to edit in the camera at 253 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:32.600 the time, so if you messed up to take, you'd 254 00:11:32.639 --> 00:11:35.639 rewind film that again. So you were editing it as 255 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:36.279 we shot. 256 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:38.519 Yeah. I did that with my home movies, so I 257 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:39.440 understand completely. 258 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:41.879 It's it's uh And there was kind of a fun 259 00:11:42.159 --> 00:11:44.200 like satisfaction to that because you knew you were working 260 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:45.919 with the final cut whatever was in there, was like 261 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:48.159 that's what they're going to see. Yeah, So I liked that. 262 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:50.840 And then so anyway, so YouTube, yeah, comes out two 263 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:53.519 thousand and five, and I'm like, there's a way to 264 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:56.600 share this with anyone in the world, like everyone in 265 00:11:56.639 --> 00:11:59.519 the world, everyone in the world. I mean it, I 266 00:11:59.559 --> 00:12:02.720 felt like it was blowing my mind more than other people. 267 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:05.399 And I remember looking around going like, why is no 268 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:08.320 one really everyone was still excited about my Space more 269 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:10.919 than YouTube, And I was like, why is no one 270 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:13.639 getting the fact that we can upload videos? And I 271 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:16.279 mean granted very low resolution, and I think you weren't 272 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:18.759 allowed to upload anything more than ten minutes, which I 273 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:20.840 mean that's still a good chunk of time, but it 274 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:24.480 was very restricted still like we would we would, you know. 275 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:25.960 It was yeah, you get out there and do something 276 00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:28.000 in ten minutes, that's for sure. Yeah, And that's we 277 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:30.600 were That was a comedy acts don't go that long. 278 00:12:30.799 --> 00:12:33.120 Right, right, right exactly, So it was still you know, 279 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:36.480 it was still a lot of possibilities with a ten minute, 280 00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:39.679 low resolution video, and and so yeah, that's how it 281 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:41.519 was a no brainer. As soon as YouTube came out. 282 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:44.919 I just immediately, like I started making videos for that 283 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:46.879 made it for you. Yeah, I took in high school, 284 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:49.120 they offered an elective that year, is my senior year 285 00:12:49.159 --> 00:12:51.559 in video editing was an elective and they taught us 286 00:12:51.919 --> 00:12:54.519 on like the newest technology. So at the time, it 287 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:56.879 was like iMovie was like the cutting edge, like it 288 00:12:56.960 --> 00:12:59.320 was a very new software, and so they taught us 289 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:01.039 on that, and I remember were falling in love with 290 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:04.039 editing because I'd never learned to edit before, and I 291 00:13:04.120 --> 00:13:06.039 remember thinking, this is so easy. And then you just 292 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:08.840 you just plug the camera into the computer. The footage 293 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:10.679 is on the computer. You could just cut and splice, 294 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:13.600 and granted, back then you had import in real time, 295 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:15.200 so whatever you shot, if it was an hour, it 296 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:17.399 would take an hour to import. Oh wow, so that 297 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:18.879 was kind of a pain in the ass, but like 298 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:21.279 there were but at least you didn't have to edit 299 00:13:21.320 --> 00:13:24.399 it in the camera. And so anyway, this is a 300 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:26.919 very roundabout way of saying that, like that's that's ultimately 301 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:29.120 how I started doing YouTube was I just took that 302 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:32.360 editing class, made that YouTube account senior year, and then 303 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:36.759 and then everything else in my life became a planet 304 00:13:36.919 --> 00:13:40.320 orbiting around that that was sort of the pinnacle of 305 00:13:40.559 --> 00:13:44.320 even like my job, my school, everything was second priority 306 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:47.440 to just me expressing myself in the Internet and I 307 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:49.120 and at the time that was not a safe bet 308 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:52.039 because there was no future in video streaming, you know, 309 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:54.159 it was it was seen as like a hobby site. Still, 310 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:57.960 that's true, and so it was the term YouTuber only 311 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:01.000 recently and with younger generations as a form of respect 312 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:03.519 that it didn't have for such a long time. Sure, 313 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:06.399 but yeah, so it wasn't like I felt like I 314 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:09.000 was investing my time wisely. And it's one of those 315 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:11.919 examples of like that there's an image of like a 316 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:14.879 guy picking an axe, you know, through a tunnel in 317 00:14:14.919 --> 00:14:16.799 the ground and there's like a gym five feet away 318 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:20.240 and he gives up and goes back, and it's sort 319 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:22.799 of an example of like I'm glad I didn't put 320 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:27.320 down the pick axe, you know. Yeah, And and so yeah, 321 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:29.240 it wasn't until you know, I moved to LA and 322 00:14:29.399 --> 00:14:33.320 had many jobs of just customer service or just very 323 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:36.279 entry level positions that I could and I was constantly 324 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:39.200 getting fired because I was always focusing on my on 325 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:41.399 my films in my series. 326 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:45.679 Oh that's really familiar. Do you have something similarly now? No, Yeah, well, 327 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:47.600 in New Orleans when I moved there, when I was 328 00:14:47.639 --> 00:14:50.080 a kid, I say, a kid, I was just turned nineteen. 329 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:52.240 But I wanted to be a band, being a band, 330 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:54.559 being a singer. But yeah, blah blah blah, and I 331 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:59.240 would I would have, you know, I changed what was it? Firestone? 332 00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:02.480 I think I might have Firestone. I fixed flat tires 333 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:04.879 for a while. Oh but we have a gig where 334 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:06.639 oh and oh so I have to we can't go. 335 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:08.480 I can't commend Friday. 336 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:09.440 Okay, so. 337 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:13.320 All of a sudden Monday I had to get a 338 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:17.039 new job, and so because and then finally the band 339 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:19.360 was working enough that I didn't have have a didn't 340 00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:21.600 have a need for the job, so that worked out, 341 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:23.519 you know, so I understand. 342 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:26.639 Yeah, it's it's not a lot of people, do you know, 343 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:29.360 especially back then, it was no one under you know, yea. 344 00:15:29.559 --> 00:15:32.720 Even my own friends were like, all right, have fun editing. 345 00:15:32.759 --> 00:15:36.360 I'm going to go study. Like it did feel like 346 00:15:36.440 --> 00:15:37.000 I would. 347 00:15:36.840 --> 00:15:38.960 Do something that I can actually use in the world. 348 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:43.919 And YouTube wasn't really tangible. It wasn't saying it wasn't 349 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:47.200 it wasn't something that you could like that. Yeah, well, yeah, 350 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:49.919 I know it's it's the whole world's changed, and I 351 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:51.559 if only I knew it was going to change in 352 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:54.080 my favor, I probably would have done it even more aggressively. 353 00:15:55.720 --> 00:15:58.240 But no, I'm happy the way that it panned out. 354 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:01.120 You know, and a lot of people get famous for 355 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:05.159 doing you know, once the internet became, you know, sort 356 00:16:05.159 --> 00:16:07.879 of this shouting contest anyone could you know? It was 357 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:09.600 just I want to do anything to get famous, and 358 00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:12.600 sometimes people you know, haven't forbid you get popular for 359 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:15.200 something you don't enjoy doing. For again, Mack, that you did. 360 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:17.519 So I was always there was a long time where 361 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:18.799 I was kind of trying. I was trying to do 362 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:20.639 vlogging where you just you know, map out your whole 363 00:16:20.679 --> 00:16:22.519 life for the whole world to see, or trying to 364 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:25.840 do like prank videos. I was trying to do oh googging. Yeah, 365 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:29.200 And I'm just so glad that ultimately what really stuck, 366 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:31.879 what the fans really responded to the most, was what 367 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:34.879 I love doing the most, and that's you know, storytelling. 368 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:38.919 That's creating these characters and telling stories through these these 369 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:41.759 characters that I, you know, wrote for myself to play 370 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:46.559 and it's yeah, it's anyway, it's a very satisfying line 371 00:16:46.559 --> 00:16:47.960 of work. But I did not think it was going 372 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:48.679 to be possible. 373 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:52.440 Well, I think, you know, I've got my kids, my nieces, nephews, whatever, 374 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:55.960 you know, and I I always tell them, you know, well, 375 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:57.279 if you want to be an attorney, you want to 376 00:16:57.279 --> 00:16:59.720 be a doctor, that's great, but you know, make sure 377 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:01.799 you do something that you would do all day long 378 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:05.559 for free and do it so damn well that somebody 379 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:09.119 will pay you. And that to me is the ultimate 380 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:12.519 not revenge, but that's the ultimate career, you know. I mean, 381 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:14.200 if you if you would do it all day long 382 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:16.119 for free and you do it so well, somebody pays you, 383 00:17:16.920 --> 00:17:20.000 right right, ding ding ding. That's that's the brass ring. 384 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:23.160 It's and I agree, I and it if I you know, 385 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:25.519 twenty years ago, I would have said that's impossible, or like, 386 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:27.880 oh that sounds nice, but it really is. 387 00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:32.759 Yeah, I mean, and also, anology has been your friend. 388 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:34.720 Chet technology has been right there on my side. But 389 00:17:34.759 --> 00:17:37.440 I've also I've been around now long enough since that 390 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:41.240 point of view that I had to see how everyone 391 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:44.480 else my age has done. And it really if there's 392 00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:47.200 one thing I've learned. It's just you're if you're persistent, 393 00:17:47.240 --> 00:17:49.480 you're good at something, Eventually someone's going to pay you 394 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:51.519 for it. I have all of my friends who just 395 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:54.279 stuck with it because they liked it are now doing 396 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:57.039 it very successfully now, you know. And I'm very proud 397 00:17:57.079 --> 00:17:58.559 that a lot of people I went to college with 398 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:00.960 that I grew up with, you know, moved to la 399 00:18:01.880 --> 00:18:04.279 eventually and just stuck with their dreams. And I think 400 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:07.079 what united us in high school and college was that 401 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:10.079