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<v Speaker 1>Coming up on eight six, I pick about PRCD talk station.

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<v Speaker 1>Really enjoyed the lineup of guests this morning. Continuing the

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<v Speaker 1>lineup of guests that I'm enjoying this morning, the return

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<v Speaker 1>of tech editor Colin Madine, tech editor for breit Bart.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find him online. As I always start out

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<v Speaker 1>the segment B R E I T B A R

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<v Speaker 1>T Breitbart dot Com, It's time for the inside scoop.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, Colin Maydine. It's always a pleasure talker with you,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. Happy to be here. Well, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble here in the city of Cincinnati, and we

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<v Speaker 1>make national headlines for what happened over the weekend, including

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<v Speaker 1>the brawl, be the beatdown. I should more properly refer

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<v Speaker 1>to it as covered on Breitbart as well. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if you know a whole lot about Colin,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did see that Breitbart covered the situation as well.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your take on our problem here in the city

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<v Speaker 1>of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm absolutely aware of it. You know, first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a Columbus native, and so I'd be in Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 2>anytime I wanted to see decent sports teams as opposed

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<v Speaker 2>to Cleveland. Right, it's great, So you know I did

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<v Speaker 2>watch it carefully. My first reaction is something you've already

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<v Speaker 2>touched on. A lot of the media is covering this

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<v Speaker 2>as a brawl or a fight. All I saw was

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<v Speaker 2>a beatdown, you know, people getting a mudhole stomped into them. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>what I really keyed in on as tech editor is

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<v Speaker 2>your police chief went out there blaming social media and

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<v Speaker 2>the media or this, you know, spreading virally and this

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<v Speaker 2>being the national news about Cincinnati as opposed to something good, right,

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<v Speaker 2>which we would all hope for, but usually isn't the case.

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<v Speaker 2>My view is when you look at incidents that go viral,

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<v Speaker 2>it can go two ways. There are incidents that are

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<v Speaker 2>caused by social media and made, and then there's influence.

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<v Speaker 2>There's incidents that happen and then go viral because they

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<v Speaker 2>have all the right ingredients to go viral. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't view this as something caused by social media. When

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<v Speaker 2>I think of things caused by social media, I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 2>of TikTok making teenagers do stupid things, Whether it's eating

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<v Speaker 2>tide pods or destroying their schools, yep, to get viral.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not what happened here. What happened here is this

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<v Speaker 2>terrible incident, probably alcohol fuels, and it much like the

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<v Speaker 2>Coldplay concerts CEO that wasn't caused by social media, but

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<v Speaker 2>it had all the ingredients to then go viral. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of people and the reason they go

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<v Speaker 2>to social media is to see knockouts in this fight

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to call it, brawl, attack, beat down.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, had these brutal knockdowns, right, and yes, you

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<v Speaker 2>have a crowd at last I saw the crowd is

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<v Speaker 2>estimated at one hundred people that was standing around filming it.

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<v Speaker 2>Many of those people hope to have the video that

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<v Speaker 2>goes viral because they think they're famous. They want that

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<v Speaker 2>attention for one minute or ten minutes or fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 2>of fame like Americans used to hope for. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I disagree with your police chief out there

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<v Speaker 2>saying it's the fault of social media, and it's the

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<v Speaker 2>fault of the media for covering it. You have a

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<v Speaker 2>much deeper problem that's being portrayed in that video.

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<v Speaker 1>Without question, I think, you know, it becomes a social

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<v Speaker 1>media phenomenon, most notably these these these knockdowns, these you know,

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<v Speaker 1>random indiscriminate punching of people that really even when there's

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<v Speaker 1>no altercation. We even had one of those that same

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<v Speaker 1>roughly the same period of time on Saturday morning. It's

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<v Speaker 1>you can hear the guy that's recording the video, it's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of just waiting for this knockdown to happen. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a setup. He was ready to record it when

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<v Speaker 1>it happened, and out of nowhere, this guy just cole Cox,

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<v Speaker 1>this innocent person who was just standing there, and he

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<v Speaker 1>gets knocked to the ground and then the guy drags

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<v Speaker 1>him out the middle of the street. People can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>their own eyes and they see that, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes clickbait. It's like, oh my god, this is

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<v Speaker 1>like societal breakdown kind of stuff. I can't believe what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching. And then somebody else wants to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>so they become the next viral sensation.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and you know there's other people out there saying,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the race aspect is why this went viral.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not the reality we live in. Either the fight

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<v Speaker 2>and the attack is what really gets people, exactly to

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<v Speaker 2>your point, to just click on things, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we see these types of videos going viral all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and it can be you know, it can be all,

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<v Speaker 2>it can be black on black. We see that with

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<v Speaker 2>Carnival Cruises, who had to basically go through a marketing

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<v Speaker 2>crisis because all these videos of fights on cruise ships,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly large so white people do the same thing. It's not,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, from my perspective, it's that's not why I

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<v Speaker 2>win viral? Whyowin viral? Was you had this large group

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<v Speaker 2>of people. I think there was one nine to one

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<v Speaker 2>one call according to what I read, exactly, because you

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<v Speaker 2>get that it's essentially a mini riot, one might say, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the behavior that humans is not I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>try to stop this because they'll be the next person

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<v Speaker 2>beat down. Instead, it's I'm going to try to get

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<v Speaker 2>famous off this. Because whether you're a social media expert

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<v Speaker 2>or not, everyone has some concept of what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right, and you know it's it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't get my head around, Colin, because okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be sixty in September. Maybe it's my age,

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<v Speaker 1>But my first reaction is never to grab my phone

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<v Speaker 1>and start taking pictures of something. I mean, even at

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<v Speaker 1>family events, birthday parties. I just don't think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I wouldn't have. I don't think I would

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<v Speaker 1>have pulled my phone out if I was downtown when

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<v Speaker 2>To record it.

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<v Speaker 1>It just doesn't enter my mind. But that's not modern society,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's certainly not the default position for seemingly most

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Brian, in your defense, it's not just an age thing. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly older people, you know, as you get into the

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<v Speaker 2>boomer generation, they don't have that instinct. I'm a tech

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<v Speaker 2>editor gen X in my forties and I struggle with

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<v Speaker 2>that too. We have a fox who runs around our

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<v Speaker 2>neighborhood all day. I saw them and I had to

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<v Speaker 2>like comically fumble with my phone right for the right camera.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's you know, millions upon millions of people who

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<v Speaker 2>are like quick jaw artists, right, like gunslingers with their

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<v Speaker 2>phone and they're filming Hollywood style angles and lighting on

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<v Speaker 2>the fly because and some of that is because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we have whole generations that are digital natives, people who

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<v Speaker 2>were born with social media essentially, yeah, or in the

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<v Speaker 2>it's that struggle of we have people who just they're

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<v Speaker 2>thinking and values, which is if they see something like

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<v Speaker 2>that and that's not cysticus. Right, you have people getting

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<v Speaker 2>knocked out, possibly brain damage. I don't know the condition

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<v Speaker 2>of those poor people this morning, but you know that's

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<v Speaker 2>not a fight, that's a that's a life threatening situation.

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<v Speaker 1>With that question, well, you mentioned thinking and critical thinking

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<v Speaker 1>I think has been an important aspect of my life

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<v Speaker 1>and thank god I have critical thinking. It served me

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<v Speaker 1>well in my practice of law. But that's the environment

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<v Speaker 1>I was raised in, you know, the Socratic method. But

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<v Speaker 1>pivoting over to artificial intelligence, I see the Teachers Union

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<v Speaker 1>are teaming up with Microsoft and others thanks to a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three million dollar investment by Microsoft, Open AI and

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<v Speaker 1>Anthropic to incorporate artificial intelligence into the classroom. And my

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<v Speaker 1>concern about that is the default position for most is

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to engage my own thought process. Is

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to turn to chat, GPT or some

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<v Speaker 1>other AI inspired to get the answer to whatever question.

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<v Speaker 1>That's presented in front of me and just regurgitate something

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<v Speaker 1>without thinking about it. This is a dangerous step, I believe, Colin.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your take on this direction.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a dangerous step because what you just said, Brian,

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<v Speaker 2>once again, you're kind of ahead of the curve. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not just conjecture, it's not just g These people aren't thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>MIT has done an actual study and in you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the short version of the result is chet TBT wrots

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<v Speaker 2>your brain. They do brain studies and people's brains are

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<v Speaker 2>not firing in the same way when they go to

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<v Speaker 2>a tool and get an answer. So, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that I find very curious about that deal where

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<v Speaker 2>teachers and teachers unions want to incorporate AI into the

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<v Speaker 2>classroom is for you know, decades, you could talk to

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<v Speaker 2>the most ardent leftist teacher and they would have a

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<v Speaker 2>very similar opinion of Wikipedia that I do, because Wikipedia is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a horror show. It's filled with biased, insane,

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<v Speaker 2>crazy opinions from the furthest left people. But teachers hated

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<v Speaker 2>it because students would go to Wikipedia a copy and

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<v Speaker 2>paste and turn it in as their research homework. They

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<v Speaker 2>would say, you didn't do your work. You know, how

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<v Speaker 2>dare you go to Wikipedia? Those same teachers today are

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<v Speaker 2>saying go to tech GPT and start, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>get some answers from them. It's the exact same problem.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not learning anything as someone who works they in

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<v Speaker 2>and day out with with writing. The startling thing is

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<v Speaker 2>when people use chetchipt or any AI tool to generate

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<v Speaker 2>some written words, they almost never read them. We know

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<v Speaker 2>that because people will publish things or write letters and

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<v Speaker 2>they have like horrible mistakes in them, or it does

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<v Speaker 2>this was written by tech gipt. They don't even bother

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<v Speaker 2>to read it to remove that colin.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is a topic that is so near and

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<v Speaker 1>dear to my heart because there have been any number

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<v Speaker 1>of articles written about idiot lawyers who rely on chat GPT,

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<v Speaker 1>which whole cloth makes up case law that does not exist.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't go bother and check their work to see

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<v Speaker 1>if there actually is the case there they just recited

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<v Speaker 1>and presented to the court.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean talk about malpractice. Yeah, I love covering that

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<v Speaker 2>at Brighte Bartech. And you know you're a lawyer. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a lawyer, but you know, no lawyer wants to

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<v Speaker 2>make a judge really angry I mean that's rule number one.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine how angry the judges when they realize

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<v Speaker 2>and this is not one case that's happened many times Anthropics,

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<v Speaker 2>which is an AI giant, their own lawyer fell for this,

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<v Speaker 2>where they, you know, file things with a judge full

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<v Speaker 2>of fake case citations. So it's brutal, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening. So you know, for all the parents and

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<v Speaker 2>grandparents out there, you should punish your kids for using

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<v Speaker 2>AI because literally they're not gonna think, they're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to learn, uh, and they're gonna publish wrong information.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, talk about and even if the information is accurate,

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<v Speaker 1>the concept of creating a sentence on your own, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a lost art. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>done for you. You know, the using verbs correctly announced

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<v Speaker 1>correctally and understanding how to construct this sentence is just

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<v Speaker 1>that does it for you. I Mean there's there's just

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<v Speaker 1>no thought process involved, and I find that it's frightening.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the other component of this is and a

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<v Speaker 1>book market, we got this guy in New York that

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<v Speaker 1>used artificial intelligence to build bombs and he planned on

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<v Speaker 1>detonating Manhattan. And another article you guys posted about chat

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<v Speaker 1>GPT gave instructions on worshiping molac with blood sacrifices and

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<v Speaker 1>encourage somebody to cut their wrists with sterile or very

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<v Speaker 1>clean razor blade. This stuff is downright dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>It's dangerous, Brian, and you know the problem is it

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<v Speaker 2>leads people down rabbit holes. There's a term that's been

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<v Speaker 2>coined called check GPT and douce psychosis because people kind

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<v Speaker 2>of go crazy. AI has this very dangerous trend of

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<v Speaker 2>always telling you you're right, always telling you your a genius,

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<v Speaker 2>and when you start to respond, you know, in an

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<v Speaker 2>engaged manner on a particular topic, it just feeds you

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<v Speaker 2>more and more. So to your point. You know, this

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<v Speaker 2>guy wanted to build bombs, and AI tools taught him

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<v Speaker 2>better bombs to build his quote, he told the cops,

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<v Speaker 2>this is way easier than buying gunpowder to make bombs,

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<v Speaker 2>because it told me just some household chemicals. Like he

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<v Speaker 2>was thrilled because it helped them make this plan. Luckily,

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<v Speaker 2>one accillently went off and scared him, so he ended

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<v Speaker 2>up turning himself in. But you know, whether it's worshiping

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<v Speaker 2>the devil, which is the other case you talked about,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, we had a we had an article

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks ago, just some guy. He's autistic,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so he has some challenges. He thought he

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<v Speaker 2>has scientific breakthrough on time travel. Chats ABT contends him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's correct, He's the next Einstein. You know. It sent

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<v Speaker 2>him down this whole warm hole, and it's the The

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<v Speaker 2>mental health effects are almost as Dad is. Like the

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<v Speaker 2>false information and lack of thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone wants a pat on the back, and everyone wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be encouraged and told that they're right. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you can steer someone down a dangerous path because they

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<v Speaker 1>happen to be on it already, it's just going to

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<v Speaker 1>make a bad situation worse Colin made. And it's always

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<v Speaker 1>great having you want to continue to encourage my listeners

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<v Speaker 1>to book Breitbart dot com and check out the wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>reporting that you guys do. And you're always ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>the game on what starts out to be an alleged

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theory actually turns out to be right. And normally

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<v Speaker 1>you can find out what's right in advance. By reading Breitbart. Colin,

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to having you back on real soon. Keep

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<v Speaker 1>up the great work and say hello to the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the team for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate it. Brian, keep going, thanks brother. Take care.

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