WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:04.759 Welcome to Spacing Out with BB and Jason, this week 2 00:00:04.799 --> 00:00:08.439 covering the twenty seventeen film Alien Covenant. 3 00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:15.640 Welcome to Spacing Out. 4 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:19.199 I'm BB and I'm Jason, and we are discussing the 5 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:22.480 Alien franchise. One movie at the time that the moment 6 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:26.199 of this recording, Alien Covenant, is available to stream on Hulu. 7 00:00:26.480 --> 00:00:29.800 This podcast episode is being released on two different podcast feeds, 8 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:31.600 so if you found it through these Spacing Out with 9 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:34.399 Alien podcasts, then I invite you to check out our 10 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:37.039 main channel, Spacing Out with Phoebe and Jason, where we've 11 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:40.600 covered things like Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek Our Flag Means 12 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:43.679 Death over one hundred episodes, and since we're wrapping up 13 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:45.600 Alien here, we're going to be moving on to some 14 00:00:45.719 --> 00:00:49.119 other things. So this is the last Alien movie to 15 00:00:49.280 --> 00:00:52.119 date that we are covering. Our coverage of Alien Romulus 16 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:54.679 is already out, so we won't be spoiling that movie 17 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:57.439 in case you're watching for the series the first time, 18 00:00:57.479 --> 00:01:01.000 but any talk of Alien Romulus will be kept through 19 00:01:01.039 --> 00:01:03.079 as spoiler section at the end of the podcast. Although 20 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:05.200 thinking about it right now, I don't really know if 21 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:07.120 any reason to talk about Romulus. 22 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:08.040 I can think of some. 23 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:10.680 Okay, then maybe well we will have a spoiler section, 24 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:13.239 but all the other films are fair game for us 25 00:01:13.280 --> 00:01:15.680 to discuss. And I also want to mention that the 26 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:19.480 TV series Alien Earth is set to release sometime in 27 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:21.879 the first half of twenty twenty five, so we will 28 00:01:21.920 --> 00:01:26.120 plan to cover that when it drops on FX slash Hulu. 29 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:26.840 All right. 30 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:29.319 There's also a chance that we might pop in with 31 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:33.480 an episode looking at the web series Alien Isolation. And 32 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:35.280 there's also some short films that came out over the 33 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:37.079 last few years that I don't know if we'll look 34 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:39.200 at those, but I've heard good things about Isolation, so 35 00:01:39.480 --> 00:01:42.280 that might come up in the feed between now and then. 36 00:01:42.519 --> 00:01:43.599 Is that like on YouTube? 37 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:45.560 I'm not one hundred percent sure where to find it. 38 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:48.239 I'm sure it is if it's a web series. Yeah. So, 39 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:53.280 Alien Covenant premiered on May fourth, twenty seventeen, written by 40 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:56.920 John Logan and Dante Harper, story by Jack Paglan and 41 00:01:56.959 --> 00:02:00.000 Michael Green, and directed by Ridley Scott. In this movie 42 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:03.760 in twenty one oh four, almost eleven years after the 43 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:09.599 ill fated expedition in Prometheus, the Deep Space Colonization Vessel USCSS, 44 00:02:09.719 --> 00:02:12.080 Covenant is on course for the remote planet to for 45 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:16.199 Guy six, Carrying over two thousand colonists in cryogenic hibernation, 46 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:18.840 they seek to build a new world. Instead, a rogue 47 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:22.039 transmission entices the crew to a nearby habitable planet that 48 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:25.039 resembles Earth. But nothing can prepare the ambitious crew for 49 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:30.479 another disaster and uncharted territory. As the peaceful exploratory operation 50 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:34.479 turns into a frantic rescue mission. Biological foes beyond human 51 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:38.520 comprehension threatened the future before it has even begun, and 52 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:41.479 the depths of space terror reveals its hideous face. 53 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:43.639 Wow, how poetic. 54 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:50.319 Vibe check? Did we like the movie overall? How does 55 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:51.680 it stend to Test of Time? 56 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:56.520 I liked it. It was a slow, very slow start, 57 00:02:56.840 --> 00:02:59.199 and it was kind of boring and weird, and then 58 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:01.120 the James Franco isn't it. 59 00:03:03.719 --> 00:03:03.919 Yes? 60 00:03:04.199 --> 00:03:07.520 And like we just immediately laughed as soon as we 61 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:10.439 saw Franco, but. 62 00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:13.240 Because he dies, and then they're like, oh that was 63 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:13.960 James Franco. 64 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:22.280 He was on fire. Oh okay, uh yeah, rocky start, interesting, 65 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:25.360 middle good envy, so we're all good. 66 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:28.240 Uh yeah. I like this one as well. I think 67 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:32.319 it probably falls somewhere in the middle of the alien movies. 68 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:35.080 For me, we'll do an actual ranking later in that episode, 69 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:38.520 so we'll do that. But you know, there's there's aspects 70 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:41.479 of this that kind of tied to Prometheus I don't 71 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:44.240 really like. I don't like the story elements about creation 72 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:46.800 and the creation of the aliens and the creation of 73 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:50.280 mankind and all that, Like, I don't love that, and 74 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:53.800 this movie is kind of stuck in that story. And 75 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:56.199 then there's also this, like I guess I hear it 76 00:03:56.240 --> 00:03:59.960 called de mystification, where like, you know, there's things about 77 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:03.199 a movie that are mysterious or a character that's mysterious, 78 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:06.360 and then a prequel comes along and just explains everything 79 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:09.000 about them, and it kind of ruins all the intrigue 80 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:12.400 and everything that you had. Like I think the movie 81 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:15.120 Solo was a good movie, but it explained everything about 82 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:17.720 Han Solo, so he's not as interesting as a character. 83 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:21.120 So it's kind of doing that with the Aliens. Yeah, 84 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:23.480 so that's what I don't like about a lot of prequels, 85 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:25.360 and this has that all over it. 86 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:30.639 Yeah, I think there's something to the mystery of this 87 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:36.399 weird creature, and like, thinking of past movies, I like 88 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:40.759 the idea of it evolving on its own. I think 89 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:45.319 the theory of evolution is so powerful, and they like 90 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:49.240 take it away and it's like this god complex is 91 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:53.720 inserted and it's so try. Like what's the word trite? 92 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:54.759 Is that the word. 93 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:58.040 Something that is overused and lacking originality or freshness? 94 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:01.079 That's it. Yeah, just I don't like it. 95 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:04.759 Yeah, and I think that that is also a good 96 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:07.079 word for some of the movie because it repeats a 97 00:05:07.120 --> 00:05:10.680 lot of plot elements from the previous movies. Yeah, he had, 98 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:12.759 you know, the aliens on the ship at the end, 99 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:16.279 the android is a bad guy. There's just like several 100 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:19.079 things throughout it that are they don't seem to play 101 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:23.879 as like homages, so they're just like competing the same thing. Yeah, 102 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:26.279 but despite that, I still think it was good. There 103 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:29.240 was good tension throughout the movie. Like I was never 104 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:31.639 very bored. You said the beginning was slow, but I 105 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:34.759 found it intriguing. The action at the end I thought 106 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:36.920 was really good. Like the whole third act was like. 107 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:39.839 Yeah, no, the th third act was really good. And 108 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:42.720 then like Danny wick Bride is in it, Like. 109 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:48.000 What so, Yeah, I think it's a huge step up 110 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:48.920 from Prometheus. 111 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:52.360 Yes, it's better than Prometheus. I like it a lot, 112 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:53.319 I honestly do. 113 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:56.439 It feels way more like an alien movie than that did, 114 00:05:56.560 --> 00:05:59.720 like in terms of the tone and the visuals, like. 115 00:05:59.639 --> 00:06:05.040 It cure itself. Yeah, I feel like the David character. 116 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:11.439 I don't know, I just I never liked David, and 117 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:15.000 I wish that they would have kept the other guy, 118 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:19.639 Matthew or whatever his name was, Walter Walter, Yeah, he 119 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:24.000 was cool. I liked Walter or the fact that they 120 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:27.920 like cut to like us not finding out who is 121 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:31.000 on the ship, like, let us know, show us the 122 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:33.319 androids having it out. 123 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:35.920 Okay, well yeah, so we'll dig into that. 124 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:39.120 And okay, okay, okay, yeah trivia trivia trivia. Yeah, I 125 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:41.240 like the movie. It was a good movie. I would 126 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:41.959 watch it again. 127 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:48.759 Trivia time. What facts could be uncovered for Alien Covenant? 128 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:52.079 All right? So, prior to the release of Prometheus in 129 00:06:52.120 --> 00:06:55.959 twenty twelve, director Ridley Scott began hinting at the prospects 130 00:06:56.000 --> 00:06:59.519 of the sequel, as Prometheus has left many questions unanswered, 131 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:02.160 and early on, Scott stated that the film would feature 132 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:05.120 Nosenamore says he wanted to focus on David eight, whose 133 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:08.680 ai was the new Alien life form, but feedback on 134 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:10.519 Prometheus caused him to change course, so. 135 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:13.040 He hinted that there wasn't going to be a monster. 136 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:14.160 But then he took a note. 137 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:17.040 I feel like you can see in this movie. In 138 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:19.639 both these movies, like he really wants to focus on 139 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:22.279 the androids and not the aliens. 140 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:26.839 Which is weird because they're so hollow. Yeah, like, I 141 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:30.079 think today that movie would have been interesting with the 142 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:32.560 AI technology that we have today. 143 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:35.959 Yeah, it's interesting that he really dialed in on AI 144 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:41.600 before it became such a hot topic. Yeah, knew me Rapace. 145 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:43.279 I don't know if I'm saying her name right. That's 146 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:46.480 who plays Elizabeth Shaw and Prometheus, And she'd spent a 147 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:49.160 week shooting scenes which do not appear in the film. 148 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:52.079 I don't know what those are. And I couldn't really 149 00:07:52.079 --> 00:07:55.759 find any information as to why they out cut her 150 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:58.480 from the film, didn't include her, Like, was it whose 151 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:01.279 decision that was or anything like it Just it's weird 152 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:02.759 because I feel like they could have had her in 153 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:06.199 the movie, even with the same general storyline, Like she 154 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:07.600 could have been a part of it in some way. 155 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:10.959 The film was shot in New Zealand, Australia, in the 156 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:13.120 US and the UK, and the run up to release, 157 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:16.399 twentieth Century Fox released a number of short prolog films 158 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:19.120 as part of the marketing for Alien Covenant. There was 159 00:08:19.160 --> 00:08:22.199 a one called prologue Last Supper, which features the crew 160 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:24.360 of the Covenant having a last meal before they entered 161 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:27.560 cryo sleep. The second prologue was called The Crossing and 162 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:30.959 reveals what happened to Elizabeth Shaw and the android David 163 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:33.840 following the ending of Prometheus. So I guess she does 164 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:36.639 appear in that short wherever that is. And then another 165 00:08:36.679 --> 00:08:39.519 one was called Meet Walter, which was a fictional advertisement 166 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:43.080 for the Walter series of androids. The film was novelized 167 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:46.279 by author Alan Dean Foster, who also wrote a novelization 168 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:49.200 for the first Alien movie, and he also wrote a 169 00:08:49.240 --> 00:08:53.919 prequel novel to Alien Covenant called Alien Covenant Origins. Budget 170 00:08:53.960 --> 00:08:56.320 was ninety seven million, the box office revenue was two 171 00:08:56.399 --> 00:08:57.399 hundred and forty million. 172 00:08:57.759 --> 00:08:58.440 Holy shit. 173 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:01.480 And it was considered a box office disappointment, and it 174 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:04.440 brought in way less than Prometheus. Prometheus I think was 175 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:06.240 almost five hundred million. 176 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:09.120 Wow, And I would call it the superior film. 177 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:12.879 Yeah, you know, our reception of it, I think is 178 00:09:12.960 --> 00:09:16.240 higher than like what you see on Rotten Tomatoes and 179 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:20.240 stuff like Prometheus is rated higher by critics and pretentious 180 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:24.279 fuck yeah, so yeah. Critical reception was mixed, but somewhat positive. 181 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:27.320 Praise went to the visual style and horror elements, as 182 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:30.960 well as Michael Faspener's performance. Criticism went towards the script, 183 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:33.639 the reuse of old plot devices, and the movies attempt 184 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:38.639 to blend horror with philosophical themes. Ridley Scott originally planned 185 00:09:38.679 --> 00:09:42.600 two sequels to Prometheus, leading into the first Alien film. 186 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:45.000 He later stated that Covenant would be the first of 187 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:48.440 three sequels to Prometheus. A script was written during production 188 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:50.559 of Alien Covenant and was set to go into production 189 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:53.679 in twenty eighteen, but it faced delays, partly due to 190 00:09:53.679 --> 00:09:56.960 the box office under performance of Alien Covenant. Then, after 191 00:09:57.039 --> 00:10:00.159 Disney purchased twentieth Century Fox, they announced the development of 192 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:03.240 more Alien films. This led to the production of Alien Romulus, 193 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:06.679 and it remains unclear if more Bridley Scott's prequels will 194 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:11.360 be made, so that cliffhanger ending might never be resolved. 195 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:18.080 Honestly, I don't care. It's just a bunch of colonizers, right. 196 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:22.639 Deep space dive, Let's break down some of our thoughts 197 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:25.559 on the film. You can share your thoughts with us 198 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:29.320 through email or social media. We may use your comments 199 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:56.480 on an upcoming episode. 200 00:10:57.440 --> 00:11:01.440 What else is Michael Fastbender in Familiar looking as a 201 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:02.519 as a robot? 202 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:05.919 He's in some of the X Men frequels. He's Magneto, 203 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:10.600 the young Magneto. He also played Steve Jobs in Steve Jobs. 204 00:11:10.879 --> 00:11:13.879 I haven't seen that. If it's not sci fi, it's 205 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:17.080 not on my radar. But he looks like an like 206 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:19.480 a fucking robot? What a robot face? 207 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:24.200 Yeah, he did a good job playing those two robits. 208 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:26.759 He really did. I think he did a great job. 209 00:11:27.240 --> 00:11:30.120 You know, one thing, it's starting out of order here, 210 00:11:30.159 --> 00:11:32.080 but like one thing that I feel like was a 211 00:11:32.120 --> 00:11:36.320 misstep of him with David cutting his hair so early 212 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:38.240 in the movie, because that kind of tips you off 213 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:39.960 that they're going to switch places. 214 00:11:40.399 --> 00:11:44.320 Yeah, it would have. It would have been cool if 215 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:45.159 he would have waited. 216 00:11:45.639 --> 00:11:48.360 And it also just made it harder to keep track 217 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:50.120 of who's who because. 218 00:11:49.879 --> 00:11:51.200 They they looked so the same. 219 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:53.799 They were both kind of wearing grayish outfits. I know 220 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:55.840 they're different. One was a hoodie in one but. 221 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:58.960 And then like the only difference was Homeboy was missing 222 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:01.159 a hand, but his hand wasn't in the shout like 223 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:04.919 eighty percent of the time. Yeah, so I couldn't tell 224 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:06.200 you which one was which. 225 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:11.120 So I mean, I didn't care much for that opening 226 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:14.320 scene in the white room, but jumping past that, what 227 00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:16.679 an awful way to wake up from cryo sleep with 228 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:18.759 that emergency going off. 229 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:22.080 Yeah, that would suck. I felt like it was really 230 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:26.080 sudden how we got to the ship and all of 231 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:29.399 a sudden, everyone's waking up and people are dying, and 232 00:12:29.440 --> 00:12:32.080 I'm like, I don't care. I don't care about any 233 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:35.360 one of these motherfuckers. I don't know them, I haven't 234 00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:39.279 met them, I don't like them. There's nothing about this 235 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:42.960 that gives me like feelings, Like all that time they 236 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:47.600 spent introducing the rule, but they could have built up community. 237 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:49.559 They could have done that last supper thing. 238 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:52.360 Yeah, that's what I was just thinking, Like that scene 239 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:54.120 might have done well at the beginning. 240 00:12:53.799 --> 00:12:56.159 Of the bu especially if you want to pay homage 241 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:59.360 to the original, Like I feel like the original had 242 00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:01.840 that scene they get out of cryo sleep and they're 243 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:05.320 all sitting around that white table eating. Yeah, like you 244 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:07.799 could have done that. But you had to give the 245 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:12.279 robot a part where he plays the piano, okay, choices, 246 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:16.360 I don't know. So that was like going from that 247 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:24.480 sterile white room. The creation of David annoying, and the 248 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:30.480 fact that he names himself after a fucking statue, like boring. 249 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:35.080 You don't even know like King David or any of 250 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:39.080 that shit, Like you're just David because you know Michael Angelo, 251 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:43.360 and you're like, oh, I think a sculpture is pretty cool, 252 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:46.679 So I want to be named after this big naked guy. 253 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:51.519 He's lucky he didn't have like a different painting or sculpture. 254 00:13:51.600 --> 00:13:53.039 He could have been like the thinker. 255 00:13:54.960 --> 00:14:00.639 What other like things could he have in there? Yeah? Yeah, 256 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:02.840 So they killed James Franco with whatever. 257 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:07.039 Yeah, we don't even know it's James Franco. It's just 258 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:10.639 some random dude in a pod that's on fire and 259 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:16.279 everyone's upset about it. Apparently it was the captain. We 260 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:19.279 don't care, we don't know him. And then later we 261 00:14:19.360 --> 00:14:22.320 watch videos of him on the side of a mountain 262 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:25.919 laughing like James Franco and we're like, oh my god, 263 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:29.399 that's fucking James Franco that died, and like that shot 264 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:32.559 that they all took, and that in his memory was 265 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:36.120 lame because we didn't know who he was and like 266 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:39.879 the second in command had a big chip on his shoulder. 267 00:14:40.159 --> 00:14:44.039 We don't understand that either. Like, none of these relationships 268 00:14:44.039 --> 00:14:46.799 are adding up to me anyway. I just they're not 269 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:49.759 adding up. They're like, I don't care boohoo, I'm in 270 00:14:49.879 --> 00:14:52.600 charge now and they don't respect my authority. And I 271 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:54.720 don't want them to mourn the loss of a leader. 272 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:58.360 What a weirdo. I was happy to see him die, honestly. 273 00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:02.039 I did feel bad for him at one moment when 274 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:05.360 they were like on the planet. Oh, but I like 275 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:07.679 the way that they fixed the sale. That was really 276 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:12.039 cool and epic. Yeah, Danny McBride was out in space 277 00:15:12.279 --> 00:15:13.039 doing his thing. 278 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:15.919 Yeah, someone you didn't expect to be in this movie. 279 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:16.799 Yeah. 280 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:20.360 And he didn't really do like comic relief either. I mean, 281 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:22.919 he was a little eccentric, but yeah, he's like. 282 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:26.919 A character actor for sure, but he wasn't like a clown. 283 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:30.240 It was weird that they had so many couples, right. 284 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:32.840 I guess it makes sense if you're going to colonize, 285 00:15:32.879 --> 00:15:36.200 you want people to be procreating, But it was weird. 286 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:39.440 I don't know how many couples you meet at work, 287 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:41.960 but it's always weird to meet people that work together 288 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:46.480 and couple. But I guess they're colonizers. It's weird. It's 289 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:48.759 like they're on a cruise ship that's going to land 290 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:50.440 and they're going to terraform something. 291 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:54.360 Yeah, that scene at the very end, the shower scene, 292 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:57.039 I'd like totally forgotten that those who were a couple 293 00:15:57.559 --> 00:15:59.399 like that just seemed to come out of nowhere. Else. 294 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:05.200 Well, it's weird because Jesse small Lette is like known 295 00:16:05.320 --> 00:16:08.759 to be queer, so seeing him making out with a 296 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:11.919 woman and like rubbing her back and stuff is like weird. 297 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:17.080 And then this tentacle comes on the scene and. 298 00:16:17.600 --> 00:16:20.720 Then it gets kinky. But it was kind of fun 299 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:23.919 to see him die because he's done some sketchy stuff. 300 00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:27.799 That scene felt like more of a classic horror movie 301 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:29.200 than an alien movie. 302 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:32.360 It definitely pandered to the horror audience who loves to 303 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:37.279 see titties on screen for no reason. Yeah, so yeah, 304 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:41.480 that one was definitely And it was weird that it 305 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:44.559 was so late in the film that they did that, yep, 306 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:47.559 because usually you know, it's like ten minutes in and 307 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:49.960 there's a nude scene. What's going on? Why so weight? 308 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:53.960 My pants are already unzipped. What the hell I have 309 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:54.840 to wait that long? 310 00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:59.840 So they got a distress call or a mysterious signal 311 00:16:59.879 --> 00:17:01.080 like yes from another. 312 00:17:01.080 --> 00:17:05.119 There, they got a radio signal from a singer singing, 313 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:09.960 John Denver, take me how West Virginia. I would have 314 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:11.640 been like, turn left, so'll go. 315 00:17:12.279 --> 00:17:15.039 Let's not go there, Let's see what the other planets 316 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:15.559 are singing. 317 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:18.960 Yeah, that doesn't sound right to me. 318 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:22.240 But no, they're like, hey, there might be a party there, 319 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:25.559 so let's go check that out, which also is like 320 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:28.000 a page out of the first movie where they go 321 00:17:28.119 --> 00:17:32.720 to investigate a signal and our lead heroin Daniels is 322 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:35.240 of course saying it's a bad idea and doesn't get 323 00:17:35.279 --> 00:17:37.480 listened to, which also sounds familiar. 324 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:41.400 Yeah. So, and then when they go out and get sick, 325 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:47.680 and then they're coming back, nobody knows quarantine procedures. All 326 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:51.480 of a sudden, we're back to square one. Yep, and 327 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:55.839 god damn it, in this post pandemic world, I am 328 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:59.839 tired of seeing people not know what to do in quarantine. 329 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:03.680 That guy was coughing all over that bitch, and she's like, 330 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:06.880 let me in, let me in. I'm like, no, we're 331 00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:12.240 staying outside. If somebody gets sick on a foreign planet, 332 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:16.640 you don't say here, let me get fucking three inches 333 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:20.319 from your face and help you up. You say, stay here, 334 00:18:20.720 --> 00:18:21.720 let me get the bubble. 335 00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:26.680 Yeah, this a movie about a airborne contagion, plays a 336 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:28.079 little differently post COVID. 337 00:18:28.279 --> 00:18:33.599 It really does. And I wish we would have explored 338 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:39.799 the alien form that came from those sporelike vessels, because 339 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:45.759 that is interesting. That is fucking terrifying. The face hugger 340 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:49.200 is physical, you can see it, you can shoot at it. 341 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:53.480 But this like vapor that gets in your ears and 342 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:57.799 nose and can go into your bloodstream and infect you. 343 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:02.279 That is scary. I wish they would have explored that more. 344 00:19:02.440 --> 00:19:05.640 They would like there was no like thinking either. They 345 00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:08.240 weren't like, oh my god, it's in the spores. They 346 00:19:08.279 --> 00:19:12.319 never talked about it again. It never came up. It 347 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:16.440 never like just it was like forgotten, like e raised 348 00:19:16.480 --> 00:19:19.240 from their minds that these two people got stick out 349 00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:24.559 of nowhere, and the robots like, oh you'd know by now, Like, bitch, 350 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:26.759 I hain't trust in you. I don't know you. 351 00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:30.400 Well, yeah, it kind of moves on to the aliens 352 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:33.359 that we know, because yeah, yeah, I guess the contagion 353 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:37.200 was on that Prometheus ship and it exploded out and 354 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:41.240 they were these humanoid character creatures on the planet. 355 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:46.000 Those were the creators from Prometheus. They look they had 356 00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:50.960 that funky nosebridge going on, and they thought that it 357 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:56.000 was like Homeboy coming home after he infected the humans. Maybe, 358 00:19:56.079 --> 00:20:02.759 but then David unleashes the contagion all over them, and 359 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:05.599 it's I think that could have also been done a 360 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:09.839 little more like dramatically, like taking their time with it 361 00:20:09.920 --> 00:20:12.759 instead of just like a flash that they showed. Like 362 00:20:13.039 --> 00:20:15.799 I wish we could have seen the evolution of the planet, 363 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:18.960 like the way it turned into like all these creatures 364 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:23.599 just running around too, because it could. It caught everything right, 365 00:20:24.119 --> 00:20:26.759 like there's wheat, so there might be cows, there might 366 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:32.319 be other creatures that got like overrun, and David is 367 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:34.680 the only one that's not a creature. I don't know. 368 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:36.960 I just like, if you want to tell the story 369 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:40.480 like that, like let's see it, it's show, not tell. 370 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:44.920 That's that's why you make movies. It gave Pompeii vibes, though, 371 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:49.559 you know, what I mean. So POMPEII was this volcano 372 00:20:49.839 --> 00:20:52.599 that erupted, and it was so quick with the ash 373 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:57.160 and the that it like froze everybody in time. And 374 00:20:57.240 --> 00:20:59.599 that's that's kind of what it was giving, with all 375 00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:05.599 of the frozen like creature, like the creators frozen in 376 00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:08.240 time of their like chests exploding and shit. 377 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:11.839 Yeah, the one guy, the first one that got infected, 378 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:14.240 it burst out of his back instead of his chest. 379 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:15.880 Yeah, that was interesting. 380 00:21:16.119 --> 00:21:16.599 Yeah. 381 00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:21.039 And then when that Danny McBride's wife shut them both 382 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:24.559 in that room, even though she clearly had blood all 383 00:21:24.559 --> 00:21:29.319 over herself. Selfish, selfish, she should have left herself in 384 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:31.640 that room with them and said we're staying in here 385 00:21:31.720 --> 00:21:35.160 until we figure it out. Rude, messed up. Nobody knows 386 00:21:35.240 --> 00:21:38.440 quarantine rules. And then she's like, just go to the 387 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:40.519 med bay and don't touch anything on your way out. 388 00:21:40.720 --> 00:21:44.720 They're knocking around, touching every single surface. So if it's like, 389 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.680 I don't know, it's like, obviously not cool. I've seen 390 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:51.640 movies where it's in the blood and if you like 391 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:55.480 touch the blood, you'll get sick. And when that guy's 392 00:21:55.880 --> 00:21:58.559 back burst into her face, she would she's a goner. 393 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:01.160 She's a gonner, and I wish it was like that, 394 00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:03.680 because as she was on fire, it would have been 395 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:06.960 fucking dope if if a creature burst out of her 396 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:11.720 just a little just more like gore and blood and tragedy. 397 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:13.599 If you're gonna go there, go there. 398 00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:18.279 There were times in the movie that the Aliens had 399 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:21.160 a CGI looked to them. They're like, they weren't quite 400 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:24.480 like photo realistic. No, yeah, and just thought that was 401 00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:27.039