1 00:00:17,399 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: And we are back with another edition of the Federalist 2 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,199 Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, senior Elections correspondent at The Federalist, 3 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,239 and your experienced Shirpa on today's Quest for Knowledge. As always, 4 00:00:29,239 --> 00:00:31,800 you can email the show at radio at the Federalist 5 00:00:31,879 --> 00:00:36,240 dot com, follow us on exit FDR LST, make sure 6 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,320 to subscribe wherever you download your podcast, and of course 7 00:00:39,399 --> 00:00:42,359 to the premium version of our website as well. Our 8 00:00:42,399 --> 00:00:47,479 guest today is Eddie Scary, DC columnist at The Federalist 9 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:53,000 and author the fantastic new book Traders The Democrat Parties 10 00:00:53,079 --> 00:00:57,759 Collapse into anti American filth. Eddie, thanks so much for 11 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,560 joining us on this edition not Federalist Radio A. 12 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: Matt, it's the honor of a lifetime. 13 00:01:04,519 --> 00:01:07,719 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know about that. We'll see as the 14 00:01:07,719 --> 00:01:11,599 show progresses, but it is an honor to you know, 15 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,640 your one of the greats at the Federalist, one of 16 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:21,400 my colleagues there, and I absolutely enjoy working with you 17 00:01:21,519 --> 00:01:25,400 and reading you on a daily basis at the Federalist. 18 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,120 You know, putting your very interesting perspective on what is 19 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,280 happening in d C and beyond. You know, one of 20 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,920 the things I like from the very beginning of your book, 21 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,159 is that some authors, you know, they like to, you know, 22 00:01:42,359 --> 00:01:48,359 go gently into the subject matter. There with your with 23 00:01:48,519 --> 00:01:53,040 your title. In this book, there is no mincing of words. 24 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,400 You get, you get right to it. How did you 25 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,200 decide on this title? I think you know, the body 26 00:02:00,239 --> 00:02:03,040 of the work explains exactly what you're talking about here, 27 00:02:03,079 --> 00:02:07,000 But how did you come to traders the Democrat parties 28 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,439 collapse into anti American filth. 29 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: Well, just like past books, including my last one, which 30 00:02:15,199 --> 00:02:19,560 was titled Liberal Misery, how the hateful Left sucks joy 31 00:02:19,599 --> 00:02:22,719 out of everything and everyone. It's one of those things 32 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,400 where you come up with an original thought and you're 33 00:02:27,439 --> 00:02:29,520 really kind and kind of and it's usually for me, 34 00:02:29,599 --> 00:02:33,039 it's the thought is something that I decided on it 35 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,360 as a title because as a thought I've literally been 36 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,560 having over and over again. I just keep having that thought, 37 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,240 and then I decide that would make a really good 38 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:42,919 idea for a book, and then I think that that 39 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,400 would be the title. But then for one reason or another, 40 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,479 you kind of realize that it doesn't quite hit You 41 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,080 need to maybe boil it down or in this case, 42 00:02:53,479 --> 00:02:56,759 I'm not sure what it was before I had traders. 43 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,919 But I do know instead of anti American filth, I 44 00:03:00,159 --> 00:03:04,000 had anti American squalor, and I loved that word. I 45 00:03:04,039 --> 00:03:06,560 loved the word squalor. In fact, the President himself just 46 00:03:06,719 --> 00:03:09,280 used it the other day referring to I believe either 47 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,199 DC like I had to do with him sending in 48 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,479 the guard to reinforce, you know, law enforcement. I don't 49 00:03:16,479 --> 00:03:18,759 remember if he was referring to d C or Chicago, 50 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,120 but I love that word. But I ran it by 51 00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:26,039 a few people, people smart people. But one person didn't 52 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,520 know what that word meant. Another one who's an editor, 53 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,240 he said that that word is grammatically not right. So 54 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:38,319 do I came up with philth. But the whole title 55 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,599 itself captures the theme really well of the book. 56 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,199 Speaker 1: I think it does. I think in Filth absolutely is 57 00:03:46,319 --> 00:03:52,439 fitting here. You write this, you can't love this country 58 00:03:52,879 --> 00:03:56,439 and what it stands for, what men and women have 59 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,080 died for, and at the same time hold the view 60 00:04:00,319 --> 00:04:06,199 of the modern liberal. The two are incompatible. And you 61 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,919 go back through time over the last several years in 62 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,680 this country. You really focus on what we've just experienced 63 00:04:13,919 --> 00:04:18,879 in twenty twenty four, but what we have seen now 64 00:04:19,759 --> 00:04:23,720 over the last several days in the wake of Charlie 65 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:29,879 Kirk's assassination. Cold blooded assassination was bad enough, but the 66 00:04:29,959 --> 00:04:36,639 response from liberals on college campuses and throughout much of society, 67 00:04:37,319 --> 00:04:41,439 I think really drives home that point that you make 68 00:04:41,879 --> 00:04:44,920 that you can't love this country and what it stands 69 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,839 for and at the same time hold the views of 70 00:04:47,879 --> 00:04:50,879 the modern liberal. Let's talk a little bit about that, 71 00:04:50,959 --> 00:04:56,120 because I think that is ultimately the premise and the 72 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,240 core of this book. 73 00:04:58,399 --> 00:05:02,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, in a very depressed way for my book to 74 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:07,279 come out just as Charlie Kirk was assassinated, murdered in 75 00:05:07,319 --> 00:05:12,199 cold blood, publicly executed, and then to see just as 76 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,279 you were saying, I think, I think what hurt other 77 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:19,199 than the obvious it's a it's an obvious tragedy, but 78 00:05:19,319 --> 00:05:24,319 to see the reaction afterward, particularly on social media. I 79 00:05:24,399 --> 00:05:30,240 don't think that we've seen democrats and liberals behave this way, 80 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,560 this exact way until now. And I only just thought 81 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,360 about this the other day when there was something like 82 00:05:36,399 --> 00:05:40,800 you know, Rush Limbaugh dying, or before if something bad 83 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,800 happened to a prominent Republican, you would have these liberals 84 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,959 who would go on the comments section of a website, 85 00:05:47,959 --> 00:05:51,839 but usually anonymously. They wouldn't have their picture there. It 86 00:05:51,879 --> 00:05:54,000 would be some some kind of user name that's not 87 00:05:54,079 --> 00:05:58,120 their actual name. Or they might have, worst case scenario, 88 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,439 they might have a Facebook book and so their friends 89 00:06:01,439 --> 00:06:03,839 and family knows who they are, but it's private, so 90 00:06:03,879 --> 00:06:07,600 you're not really seeing it. But now with their full face, 91 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,639 with their full name in their bio, will have where 92 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,920 they work, where they live, what you know, details about 93 00:06:14,959 --> 00:06:18,160 their personal lives. They'll go on TikTok, show their face 94 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:24,839 and just with absolute glee celebrate something tragic, deadly violent 95 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,920 happening to someone who they opposed politically. That is nothing 96 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,680 I have seen before, if it ever happened before, certainly 97 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,360 not to this degree. And I really do think that 98 00:06:36,439 --> 00:06:40,680 was why it was very painful to people who maybe 99 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,560 there are on the same side as Charlie Kirk but 100 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,240 don't know them, don't know him personally, and you just 101 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,560 kind of saw yourself and him and thinking, wow, is 102 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,720 that what they would do if it happened to me? 103 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:57,000 And that's truly anti American behavior. And going back just 104 00:06:57,079 --> 00:07:00,439 real quick to the book, the fundamental facts. When you 105 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,879 look at the positions that democrats take, whether it's on crime, 106 00:07:05,439 --> 00:07:08,199 whether it's on immigration, whether it has to do with 107 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,480 the economy, what it has to do with our elections, 108 00:07:11,519 --> 00:07:14,000 what it has to do with civil rights, free speech. 109 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,680 It's what it ultimately comes down to is they don't 110 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,839 believe that everyone is created equal, that everyone should have 111 00:07:21,879 --> 00:07:24,319 the same rights, that everyone should get to enjoy the 112 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,439 same things. They simply do not believe it. And if 113 00:07:26,839 --> 00:07:30,399 you don't believe that everyone is created equal and deserves 114 00:07:30,439 --> 00:07:33,079 maybe are not entitled to those things. Obviously there are 115 00:07:33,079 --> 00:07:36,560 differences and how much money someone has, how the ability 116 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,800 that a person has to secure things for themselves, but 117 00:07:39,839 --> 00:07:42,360 they at least have the right to pursue it. And 118 00:07:42,439 --> 00:07:45,920 it is just plainly true again with the positions that 119 00:07:45,959 --> 00:07:49,199 Democrats hold on any given issue at any at any 120 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,639 given time, and anything that they say, the things that 121 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,600 they say, the things they profess to believe, they do 122 00:07:54,639 --> 00:07:57,959 not believe that we're all created equal and deserve the 123 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,720 same right to pursue the things that everyone else has. 124 00:08:01,279 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: I think that's a very good point, just to follow 125 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,399 up on that. I have a theory because I don't 126 00:08:06,399 --> 00:08:10,800 think it is definitely anti American. You're absolutely right about that. 127 00:08:10,879 --> 00:08:14,360 I think it's anti human. I mean it is inhuman 128 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:22,000 to cheer on the cold blooded murder of anyone. And 129 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:27,000 now in this realm of what has been described, I 130 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,839 think rightly as assassination culture on the left, I mean 131 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,759 to take a look at some of the very frightening 132 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:39,440 studies about justification for the assassination for conservative leaders in 133 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,200 this country, chief among them, of course, President Donald Trump. 134 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:46,960 And it is a very very frightening time in America. 135 00:08:47,639 --> 00:08:49,200 But I want to ask you where do you think 136 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,480 all of this began? How did we get here? My 137 00:08:51,799 --> 00:08:55,000 thought is that it has much to do with the 138 00:08:55,120 --> 00:09:00,639 genuflecting on the left at the temple of equity, because 139 00:09:00,639 --> 00:09:05,559 you mentioned equality, which is something that you know, all 140 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,519 kinds of folks on the right and left have fought 141 00:09:08,639 --> 00:09:13,879 for throughout the course of this great Republic. But now 142 00:09:13,919 --> 00:09:17,279 over the last several years, we've gotten the terms, these 143 00:09:17,919 --> 00:09:22,360 Marxist terms, quite frankly anti racism, which doesn't mean what 144 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,399 you think it means. Of course, you have equity, and 145 00:09:26,519 --> 00:09:30,120 equality goes out the window. How do you think we 146 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,879 got here? Is it? Does DEI have much to do 147 00:09:34,919 --> 00:09:36,200 with us in your opinion. 148 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I think that that was really set in 149 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,960 motion under Obama, and I'm not I don't want to 150 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:47,080 necessarily attribute attribute it to the Obama and Obama administration, 151 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,559 though I'm sure that there are very strong cases for that. 152 00:09:49,759 --> 00:09:52,200 There were certainly things that he did that he did 153 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,759 and said during his presidency that exacerbated racial tensions, inflamed 154 00:09:56,799 --> 00:10:00,240 people's emotions over race, for sure. But I I think 155 00:10:00,279 --> 00:10:03,679 there was this thing that was kind of humming in 156 00:10:03,759 --> 00:10:07,279 the background. And I wrote about this in a previous 157 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:12,279 book called Privileged Victims, and it was this notion taking 158 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:18,759 hold on the left that your grievances based on your gender, identity, 159 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,799 your race, those things are paramount. And if you can 160 00:10:23,879 --> 00:10:27,240 claim some kind of grievance, it doesn't matter what anybody 161 00:10:27,279 --> 00:10:30,120 says to you, and it doesn't matter what shortcomings you 162 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,759 what personal shortcomings you might have. You're entitled to things. 163 00:10:34,039 --> 00:10:38,000 You're entitled to money, you're entitled to attention, financial gain. 164 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,039 And that took holds on the left. And again that 165 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,879 by very definition, is to say that we're not created equal. 166 00:10:47,639 --> 00:10:49,960 There were not created equal. And they're saying it, They're 167 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,159 saying somewhat of a similar thing, but in a very 168 00:10:52,159 --> 00:10:55,559 perverse way. They're saying well, no, we are created equal, 169 00:10:56,159 --> 00:10:59,480 but you've made this so unfair you have to compensate 170 00:10:59,519 --> 00:11:02,039 for that. And so you're going to give up your positions. 171 00:11:02,399 --> 00:11:06,279 You're going to give up your money for my benefit, purely, 172 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,360 purely because I'm able to claim some kind of grievance. 173 00:11:10,399 --> 00:11:14,200 And you see that there's this whole professional class out there, 174 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:21,080 millionaires overnight over talking about white supremacy, a complete fiction 175 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,759 in this country, at least talking about you know what, 176 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:30,600 you know, white supremacy, white nationalism, all that is just 177 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:36,039 a complete lie, complete fiction. But these people became millionaires overnight, 178 00:11:36,919 --> 00:11:38,799 and so yes, that has a lot to do with it. 179 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,159 And then it ran in that whole concept taking place, 180 00:11:43,799 --> 00:11:45,960 It ran into Donald Trump. It ran into the election 181 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:50,919 of Donald Trump, and that really set things you would think, 182 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:55,039 I guess counterintuitively, it really set them on fire. They 183 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,960 really went in on that, and a climax in twenty 184 00:11:58,039 --> 00:12:02,360 twenty with the George Floyd fiery but mostly peaceful race riots. 185 00:12:02,879 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: Uh. 186 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,159 Speaker 2: And you know, after that, they they had some success, 187 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,679 they had some success, they took an election. But now 188 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,679 we're seeing that and retreat and that. But and yet 189 00:12:12,799 --> 00:12:15,200 it's it's not going down without a fight because Donald 190 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,799 Trump really represents the opposite. He he he genuinely believes 191 00:12:19,879 --> 00:12:23,600 and it's it's it's seen in his policies, his advocacy 192 00:12:23,919 --> 00:12:26,759 that everyone's created equal and everyone deserves a shot and 193 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,799 take your shot instead of instead of the left, which says, no, 194 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,200 we are not. You don't get to have the things 195 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,000 that I have. You hear it in the way they talk, 196 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,840 by the way and in their actions and the way 197 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,679 they talk. One of my favorite quotes is from John Kerry, 198 00:12:40,399 --> 00:12:43,440 you know, the former you know democrat Emanee also the uh, 199 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,679 I'm just saying this for your listeners, and then the 200 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,759 former Senator I think he was also the Secretary of State, 201 00:12:48,039 --> 00:12:48,519 and then. 202 00:12:48,399 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: Sure and he also played I believe he played Herman 203 00:12:52,279 --> 00:12:55,279 Monster on the classic sixties show The Monsters. 204 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,639 Speaker 2: If you recall, yes, yes, looks very, very strikingly eerily similar. 205 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,679 But when he was asked at a you know, he 206 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,320 goes to those climate junkets and you know, flies around 207 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,159 the world on his massive private planes and for these 208 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,679 climate conferences where he tells everyone that they have to 209 00:13:12,879 --> 00:13:15,559 you know, wear an extra sweater, throw another log on 210 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,759 the fire because you can't have electric heat or anything. 211 00:13:19,039 --> 00:13:22,159 They asked him. They said, why do you fly private? 212 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,480 Shouldn't you be flying commercial? Because of the CO two 213 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,600 And he said, I'll never forget it. He said, someone 214 00:13:29,639 --> 00:13:32,440 like me can't do that. And what he's saying is 215 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,960 I'm special. I'm different than you. I get to do this, 216 00:13:36,039 --> 00:13:38,039 and also you're going to pay for it. You pay 217 00:13:38,039 --> 00:13:40,240 for me to do this because I'm different and I'm special. 218 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,120 That's the way they behave and it's very again anti American. 219 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,799 Speaker 3: Are young people really going into debt to impress? The 220 00:13:50,879 --> 00:13:54,000 Watchdout on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. Every day 221 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,039 Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and the economy 222 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,480 and how it affects your wallet. Apparently the ticket to 223 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,840 attention for young people is going into debt to impress 224 00:14:02,879 --> 00:14:04,080 others by things. 225 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: Like clothes and shoes. 226 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,039 Speaker 3: Two and five gen zers amid are going into debt 227 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,720 to impress. That'll get you into some trouble. Whether it's 228 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,919 happening in DC or down on Wall Street, it's affecting 229 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:13,600 you financially. 230 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: Be informed. 231 00:14:14,279 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 3: Check out the watchdot on Wall Street podcast with Chris 232 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,440 Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 233 00:14:22,279 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: That's what I love about your book. It's filled with 234 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:29,679 all of these examples of these bloviating hypocrites. During COVID, 235 00:14:29,759 --> 00:14:35,559 of course, Nancy Pelosi and Muriel Bowserd Washington, DC, you know, 236 00:14:35,679 --> 00:14:39,879 going to get their hair done. And the justification is, 237 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:45,039 you know, basically, well, I have to look good because 238 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,600 I'm going to be on camera a lot to explain 239 00:14:47,759 --> 00:14:51,600 why you have to wear a mask. And if you 240 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,279 do go out in public, if you're allowed at any 241 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,440 time in the very limited spaces we allow, you know, 242 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,360 you're going to have to stand six apart from people 243 00:15:01,519 --> 00:15:05,200 and all of that sort of nonsense. Do you think 244 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:10,759 that that the COVID era, under the draconian policies of 245 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:15,919 not only the federal government under Joe Biden, but the 246 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:21,799 Gavin Newsom's of the world, the lockdowners, did that inform 247 00:15:22,519 --> 00:15:27,799 the Democrat Party, the far left, which has become the 248 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:34,120 Democrat Party in this country, on how to behave and 249 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,240 how to lead and ultimately we're going to get into 250 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,320 this a moment, how to silence their critics in their 251 00:15:41,559 --> 00:15:43,000 constant quest for power. 252 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 2: It did, It did for a period because, and this 253 00:15:47,679 --> 00:15:53,320 goes back to my more recent book Liberal Misery, is 254 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,120 that people on the right and people in the center, 255 00:15:56,159 --> 00:16:00,080 the independence, the right wingers, the conservative leaning people, we 256 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,720 are not built the same way that liberals are. Liberals 257 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,679 and democrats. Liberals and Democrats are consumed by politics, and 258 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:15,320 conflict is their mo They are okay with tense, discomfort, conflict. 259 00:16:15,639 --> 00:16:18,720 So they'll tell they'll bark at you in public. And 260 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,840 so the whole COVID thing that lent itself perfectly to 261 00:16:23,039 --> 00:16:27,399 all of their instincts, their tendencies, and the neurosis to 262 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,240 pop off on people, scream at them about a mask, 263 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,759 or tell them you're putting people's lives at risk by 264 00:16:32,799 --> 00:16:37,960 simply going, you know, stepping outside. That that really and 265 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,519 we're the opposite again that the people in the middle, 266 00:16:40,559 --> 00:16:43,120 the people on the right, we're we just like to 267 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,080 get we try to go along, to get along, compromise, 268 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,960 We're accommodating. You do not see that on the left. 269 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,639 So when twenty twenty the lockdowns happen, you have the 270 00:16:54,639 --> 00:17:00,399 federal bureaucracy telling the country you cannot leave your homes. 271 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,000 If you do, people are going to die. Stay at 272 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,319 home and watch Netflix. We'll send you a check every 273 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,400 couple of months. And yes, and then you had Democrats 274 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,000 who said, see, see, we have we have the authority 275 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,920 of the federal government behind us saying that what we're 276 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,599 telling you to do, you have to do. And I 277 00:17:20,079 --> 00:17:24,319 think eventually, as you know, the elections were getting near 278 00:17:24,799 --> 00:17:28,160 during those years, everyone kind of looked around and was like, wait, 279 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,160 and they're looking at the examples that you just said 280 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:34,519 that are in the book, Gavin Newsom, Nancy Pelosi going 281 00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:37,039 to a salon when all salons are locked down, she 282 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,839 goes to a salon privately, you know they're looking at 283 00:17:39,839 --> 00:17:42,480 that and going, wait, if you can do it, why 284 00:17:42,519 --> 00:17:44,599 were you Why were you telling me I couldn't do it? 285 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,400 So people have Fortunately, it's always a very delicate thing. 286 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,119 You were always at risk of people forgetting. But that's 287 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:52,920 also why at the very top of the book, I 288 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,400 want people to remember the COVID years because don't ever 289 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,759 forget that because what they did. Remember Remember how it 290 00:17:58,799 --> 00:18:00,759 felt when you saw them do all the things they 291 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:03,039 told you couldn't do, and they did it. By the way, 292 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,599 And we have this very common, very frequent saying at 293 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,359 the federalists, it's not hypocrisy, it's hierarchy. 294 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:16,519 Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, and we saw what the left has been claiming, 295 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:22,160 you know, pejoratively to the right, you know self righteously, 296 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,039 that there are two Americas. Well, we saw the real 297 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:32,519 two Americas during COVID, with the examples given Nancy Pelosi, Pelosi, 298 00:18:32,559 --> 00:18:37,559 Gavin Newsom eating out at you know, an elite restaurant 299 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,599 while everybody is again forced into to stay in their 300 00:18:41,599 --> 00:18:44,880 homes locked down. You have a chapter I think that 301 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,839 I think really drives all of this home and it 302 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,000 relates to everything we talked about, but I think it 303 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:56,160 really especially came to the four in twenty twenty four, 304 00:18:56,519 --> 00:18:58,839 then the run up to the presidential election, and the 305 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:04,839 chapter is this democracy. They abandoned democracy, then they put 306 00:19:04,839 --> 00:19:09,640 it in prison. I think we know exactly where you're 307 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:10,920 going with us, but please explain. 308 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:16,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was I think there's one thing I want 309 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,440 from this book. It's a full accounting because I don't 310 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,240 think we've quite confronted exactly what we went through with 311 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,039 the last election with you know, the lying and I 312 00:19:27,079 --> 00:19:29,559 include the media on this big time. It couldn't have 313 00:19:29,559 --> 00:19:33,440 been done without them. But you have the law fair 314 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,519 against Donald Trump. You have first you know that's trying 315 00:19:36,519 --> 00:19:38,519 to bankrupt him. If you remember that ruling that came 316 00:19:38,519 --> 00:19:42,160 out that basically would have taken away all of his money. 317 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: Insane in New York. The ruling that was what around 318 00:19:47,039 --> 00:19:51,640 six hundred million dollars, I mean, it was it was outlandish, 319 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,680 and obviously there have been some revisions to. 320 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: That, right. Right, So there's first the attempts to zero 321 00:19:59,279 --> 00:20:02,000 out his finding says, then the attempt to put him 322 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,319 in prison. Then there's an assassination attempt. He's actually shot, 323 00:20:05,599 --> 00:20:10,279 another assassination attempt. All the while they're they're they're harassing 324 00:20:10,559 --> 00:20:16,279 legally well meaning, unassuming people who are showing literally the FBI, 325 00:20:16,799 --> 00:20:20,319 the Biden's dj is showing up harassing parents who are 326 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,440 going to school board meeting, basically deeming them terrorists. And 327 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,400 then you have, you know, Biden steps aside because he 328 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,279 has to. They throw in Kamala who all over Washington 329 00:20:32,319 --> 00:20:35,839 her entire tenure, even the media, you could read the stories, 330 00:20:35,839 --> 00:20:37,279 if you read between the lines, you could see they 331 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:38,640 were always making fun of her. 332 00:20:39,079 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 3: Uh. 333 00:20:39,319 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 2: She she was a complete joke. They knew she was 334 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,319 in over her head. You then would get periodic articles 335 00:20:44,319 --> 00:20:48,960 about it was either her, her staff is demoralized, there's 336 00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:52,160 high turnover. Then it's well, now they're upset because she 337 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,319 doesn't feel like she's getting the work portfolio that would 338 00:20:55,319 --> 00:20:57,519 make her look good her Even in her book, she 339 00:20:57,599 --> 00:21:00,200 just says that I wasn't given the assignments that would 340 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,440 have made me shine, like just a complete joke of 341 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:08,559 a person. They put her in and the media engages 342 00:21:08,599 --> 00:21:11,920 in this herculean effort hoist her on their shoulders to 343 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,599 get her across the finish line. Suddenly she is a 344 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,680 rock star. There has never been a more popular person. 345 00:21:17,799 --> 00:21:20,920 She might just go on Mount Rushmore just like and 346 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,720 allow her to complete, to completely reverse every position she 347 00:21:24,839 --> 00:21:27,880 ever had, and it was swallowed. The media swallowed it. 348 00:21:28,519 --> 00:21:31,559 All the while they're also saying, well, look, border crossings 349 00:21:31,599 --> 00:21:34,200 are down, well after two million people cross the country. Oh, 350 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,640 it's supposed to be fine now that border crossings were dropping. Oh, 351 00:21:37,839 --> 00:21:41,039 inflation's actually down. Well okay, Well, inflation went was up 352 00:21:41,039 --> 00:21:43,839 at twenty five percent, prices are still at that same level. 353 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,039 Is it okay that now inflation is quote unquote cooling. 354 00:21:47,279 --> 00:21:50,400 Oh crime is actually down because look the homicide rate 355 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,440 has fallen. Okay, yeah, and yet the carjackings, the looting, 356 00:21:54,599 --> 00:21:56,680 all of that is still at twenty twenty levels. So 357 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,640 I don't know why. We're just looking at homicide, but 358 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,319 the media would repeat those over and over again, just 359 00:22:01,319 --> 00:22:03,599 just for the sake, all for the sake of getting 360 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,160 Kamala Harris elected and trying to deny Donald Trump another victory, 361 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,319 which by the way, I skipped over this in addition 362 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,359 to the trying to zero out his finances, in addition 363 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,720 to trying to put him in prison, in addition to 364 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,200 the assassination attempts, they tried to remove him from the ballot, 365 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:24,519 to literally deny deny Americans their choice in the election. Like, 366 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,640 we cannot talk about that enough. It's been it's been 367 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:35,440 what a year, not even and we have not fully recognized, 368 00:22:35,519 --> 00:22:37,599 recognized what exactly happened there. 369 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It's mind blowing all that has occurred 370 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,359 in the name of democracy on the left. Our guest 371 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,319 today is Eddie Scary, DC, columnist at The Federalist and 372 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,079 author of the new book Traders the Democrat parties collapse 373 00:22:55,279 --> 00:23:00,839 into anti American filth. The left certainly has an interesting 374 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:07,960 idea of what you know is dangerous to democracy as 375 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,400 they go about being a danger to democracy, just as 376 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,279 they have an interesting idea of what a terrorist is. 377 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:23,240 They don't see so many, unfortunately, don't see Charlie Kirk's 378 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,799 alleged assassin as a terrorist coming directly from the left. 379 00:23:28,799 --> 00:23:32,440 You've written a lot about Jimmy Kimmel of late is 380 00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:40,119 exhibit a of that. But they put on pedestals. In fact, 381 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:47,759 Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin, Luigi Mangioni, the alleged assassin of 382 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,720 Brian Thompson, another horrific incident over the last of less 383 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,960 than a year in this country of assassinating culture. You know, 384 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,359 they put him on a pedestal. Luigi Manji only, the 385 00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:06,000 alleged assassin of the healthcare CEO. This is this is 386 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:12,640 really really stunning stuff. But you delve into again, this 387 00:24:12,759 --> 00:24:18,119 would not happen the way that it does without an 388 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:24,960 accomplice media, a corporate media that is desirous of a 389 00:24:25,079 --> 00:24:30,359 narrative that does anything to undercut a Donald Trump be 390 00:24:30,519 --> 00:24:35,440 the mega movement conservatives in general in this country, so 391 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,480 much so you talked about propping up Kamala Harris. She 392 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,200 was the fill in candidate. They spent four years propping 393 00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:47,359 up a guy in Joe Biden who had the mental 394 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:54,440 capacity of a bowl of KFC mashed potatoes and gravy. 395 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,640 What went on there? And how much did that inform 396 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,279 sane America about what was happening? 397 00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? And they tried, didn't they They tried so hard 398 00:25:06,519 --> 00:25:09,519 to make her work. It was like it was like 399 00:25:09,599 --> 00:25:12,559 one poll after another, like like as the days ticked 400 00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:18,640 by after Kamala became the Democrat nominee, it was just 401 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,000 showing an a rasure of Donald Trump's lead, and it 402 00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:25,640 was everything single state and on every single issue. Just 403 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,279 suddenly you would see a new pole. Kamala has erase 404 00:25:29,839 --> 00:25:32,720 closed the gap. Oh wait, now she's actually ahead. And 405 00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:35,119 then when one when when the when the poll came out, 406 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,799 I don't remember who did it. It was a it 407 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,400 was a it was would be a reputable poll, but 408 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,559 it said that she had taken uh the advantage on 409 00:25:43,599 --> 00:25:46,880 the economy. And after that I threw my hands up 410 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,039 and said, if if you can sell if you can 411 00:25:50,079 --> 00:25:52,880 sell me that, then this whole thing is fake, this 412 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,279 whole there's no way that this election is going to 413 00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:57,839 be real like and I really meant that. After that, 414 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,759 I was like, there's just no way. And then of 415 00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:03,359 course whatud we see the she lost every single swing state. 416 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,000 I think that I read in the New York Times 417 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,799 that she didn't she might have. It's either she got 418 00:26:09,839 --> 00:26:13,039 she either she she gained nothing. Democrats gained nothing in 419 00:26:13,079 --> 00:26:15,319 not a single county or it was like only two 420 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:21,000 across the entire country. Otherwise, Democrats made absolutely no gains anywhere, 421 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,920 and so, yeah, how could you? And they couldn't have 422 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,039 done that without the media. But I often wondered before 423 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,440 the election, I said, when this is over and she loses, 424 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,200 what is the media going to say? What are they 425 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,599 going to say to to their readers, their their viewers. 426 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,279 How are they going to say we got this? We 427 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,319 are they just gonna say, yeah, we got it wrong. 428 00:26:42,839 --> 00:26:45,000 I wanted to hear them say because immediately after you 429 00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:49,160 obviously saw a very demoralized people. You saw the two 430 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,519 Morning Joe lovers run to h Mar al Lago and 431 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,880 you know, make some kind of like amends. And I thought, no, 432 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,880 what you need to do is you need to say, yeah, 433 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,640 we lied and we knew we were lying, and it 434 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,079 didn't work. That was the only that was the only 435 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,359 thing I wanted to hear from them. But no, they 436 00:27:05,519 --> 00:27:09,839 just moved on and we're watching them. It's you you 437 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,839 can predict what they're going to do at this point, 438 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,359 it's it's so easy. Just like with this Jimmy Kimmel stuff. 439 00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:18,519 When when I saw they suspended him, I thought, well, 440 00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:21,039 the outrage should be If there's outrage, it would be 441 00:27:21,519 --> 00:27:25,720 at ABC for making that decision. But I thought, no, no, no, no. 442 00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:29,039 What they're going to do is say it's because it's 443 00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:33,000 because ABC was scared of the Trump administration. That's what 444 00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:35,599 they're going to do. And sure enough, that's exactly what 445 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,039 they did. Uh. But yeah, this our our news media. 446 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,039 Thank god, it's as weak as it is. I think people, 447 00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:45,960 I'm not running across the country up and down taking 448 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,119 the polls, but my intuition is pretty good. I think 449 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,400 these little controversies that they keep trying to manufacture. I 450 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,720 was making fun of it today about you know, are 451 00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:58,759 there actually people across the country having to have little 452 00:27:58,839 --> 00:28:01,759 chats with their theirs and their sons and you know, 453 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,440 I don't how do I explain Jimmy Kimmel may not 454 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,279 be coming back? 455 00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: Well, wait a minute, are there enough people watching Jimmy 456 00:28:09,759 --> 00:28:10,640 Kimmel to actually like? 457 00:28:10,759 --> 00:28:10,839 Speaker 2: No? 458 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: I again, you know, that's the issue here is the 459 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,680 lack of self reflection, and you note that in this 460 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,119 book in previous books, of course, is that nobody wants 461 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,599 to talk about the Jimmy Kimmel and these late night jokers. 462 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,799 And I don't mean that in a comedic sense. I 463 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,920 have lost so much of viewership of their original viewership 464 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,119 because they decided, the Stephen Colberts of the world, the 465 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:46,160 Jimmy Kimmel's in particular, decided to go all in on 466 00:28:46,279 --> 00:28:52,200 the leftist, you know, as the leftist spokesman in late 467 00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:56,400 night television. People in general don't want to see that, 468 00:28:56,559 --> 00:29:00,319 but they just alienated more than half of their market. 469 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:06,240 Their ratings were miserable. I would think that ABC and 470 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,200 parent company Disney, which has silenced all kinds of people 471 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,400 as you have written about over the years, I think 472 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,799 they would they would look at this as a great 473 00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:21,359 opportunity to you know, drop an arbit you know, a 474 00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:25,599 anchor around their their next just as CBS. So the 475 00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:28,920 new owners at CBS saw this. But that's what happens. 476 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,480 There is this and every you know, everybody can be 477 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:40,359 their own victim in an echo chamber. But accountability is 478 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:46,920 one thing that the left is absolutely dead set against. 479 00:29:47,079 --> 00:29:49,000 And you touch upon that in your book. 480 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, because they haven't had to face it. They never 481 00:29:51,759 --> 00:29:54,240 face it. You know. We even you know, someone like 482 00:29:54,279 --> 00:29:57,079 Donald Trump, who they swore was just going to weaponize 483 00:29:57,119 --> 00:29:59,920 the Justice Department. And I'm talking about in the first 484 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,720 that he was elected back in twenty sixteen. No he said, 485 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,279 because you know, he had said Hillary Clinton was going 486 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,200 she'd be in jail if he was president. But no, 487 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,319 he goes in says, you know, I don't want to 488 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,400 hurt anybody. Let's just drop it. We'll let it go. 489 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,680 That's how the right has behaved for a very long time, 490 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,559 and a lot of us were we felt like that 491 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,440 was the gracious thing to do. But then we've just 492 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,960 seen time and time again that when we're not getting 493 00:30:26,359 --> 00:30:31,200 defamed and smeared by the news, media just absolutely piling 494 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:37,599 on well meaning, unassuming, even a political people who make, 495 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,480 you know, a transgression without even knowing that they're making 496 00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:42,759 a transgression. Whatever it is, you show up in a 497 00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:46,079 maga hat somewhere, suddenly you're a racist, like you know, 498 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,279 when that's not happening, when the media is not doing 499 00:30:50,279 --> 00:30:53,359 that to us, you had people like Joe Biden coming 500 00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:58,400 in again his Justice Department, harassing people who weren't even 501 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,200 there on January sixth, Harassing people who were parents who 502 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,519 are showing up at school board meetings, Harassing people who 503 00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:13,319 are peacefully protesting outside of abortion clinics. You know, just 504 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,079 over and over again. We we have grown really tired 505 00:31:17,119 --> 00:31:19,279 of that. And if the worst thing that happens is 506 00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:21,359 that Jimmy Kimmel goes on a little bit of a 507 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,440 time out, I would say that they're in pretty good shape. 508 00:31:24,839 --> 00:31:27,960 But speaking of speaking of Jimmy Kimmel, this is this is, 509 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,440 this is the thing here is that I actually enjoy. 510 00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:33,759 I'm not someone who's like, oh, if you're a liberal, 511 00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:35,960 like I can't listen to you, not at all. In fact, 512 00:31:36,039 --> 00:31:38,079 I'm a pretty big fan of Bill Maher. I find 513 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,759 him be funny. I think oftentimes he even makes points 514 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,000 about the rights that should have been that I that 515 00:31:43,079 --> 00:31:44,759 I'll be like, oh, I should have considered that. That's 516 00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:47,240 a good point. I'm not at all closed to those 517 00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:50,119 kinds of things. I'll seek out alternative views. I spend 518 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,839 all my day. If no one ever believes it, it's like, no, 519 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,880 I don't watch Fox News all day. I watch CNN 520 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,279 all day, and I read the New York Times, and 521 00:31:56,279 --> 00:31:58,400 I watched and I let and I read the Washington Post. 522 00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,119 That's what I do. 523 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: What you do, and I I've always said you should 524 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,039 get casualty pay for that. 525 00:32:03,799 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 2: I have to tell our bosses. Yeah, but that's what 526 00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:08,839 I do. That's that's my job. But I when I 527 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,839 saw the little bits of the Jimmy Kimmel monologue, it 528 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,400 wasn't much different from what I've seen from what I've 529 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,640 seen you know him in Colbert and it's, you know, 530 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,079 the same, just kind of boring anti Trump stuff. But 531 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,759 this one in particular, less than a week after this 532 00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:28,759 guy was shot in the neck in front of children 533 00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:33,799 to go. That's the worst part really. I mean, obviously 534 00:32:33,839 --> 00:32:36,400 there are many bad parts, but I thought, you know, 535 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,839 there are kids that went there to participate in the 536 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:43,680 American way, the here here opposing views, see a debate. 537 00:32:43,799 --> 00:32:46,920 That's that's engagement, that's civil engagement. And that he could 538 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,000 that Charlie Kirk did that. He deserves so much credit. 539 00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:51,799 But children going and what were they treated to. They 540 00:32:51,799 --> 00:32:54,880 were treated to a public execution in the ugliest way. 541 00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:57,759 And for this guy to go and turn that into 542 00:32:57,839 --> 00:33:01,079 like a joke or an alleged I guess it's his 543 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,319 monologue so I guess it's supposed to be funny, but 544 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,759 he makes the jokes about it, and then on top 545 00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:09,079 of that, he gratuitously, which you could do. You could 546 00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:10,960 get away with this on MSNBC. It would be a 547 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,400 minor outrage and everyone move on. You do it on 548 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,240 a broadcast channel, which is supposed to be at the 549 00:33:17,319 --> 00:33:19,920 word is in the name broad cast, it's supposed to 550 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,400 be broadly appealing, and you say, yeah, the mag of people, 551 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,519 they've reached a new low and they've just been trying 552 00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:28,160 to make it seem like he's not one of them. 553 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,759 That is just so gratuitous and excessive. And you're not 554 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,799 going to tell me that they're not going to get 555 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,240 the media. They are not going to get the public 556 00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:41,039 and up in arms over Jimmy Kimmel because he said 557 00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:42,599 that they're not going to turn this into a free 558 00:33:42,599 --> 00:33:45,640 speech they're just a free speech issue. They're just not people. 559 00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:48,119 Just I really do believe that. And I don't want 560 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,240 to give too much credit to the average American. As 561 00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:52,720 much as I love this country and as good as 562 00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:55,000 I want for people, so I'm not going to give 563 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,599 too much credit. But I really do think they are tired. 564 00:33:57,799 --> 00:34:01,079 They are tired of hearing about how the left gets 565 00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:03,759 to get away with being so ugly and so nasty, 566 00:34:04,079 --> 00:34:06,680 and yet because you want you now want to appeal 567 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,280 to the Constitution in the first Amendment. No, I think 568 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,679 that they've had it, I really do. 569 00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. And the argument that this is that Jimmy Kimmel 570 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,119 is some sort of victim of oppression once again, which 571 00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:23,639 is the terminology they like to you know, that he's 572 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:28,679 being silenced. The only person in the conversation that we 573 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:34,760 are having that has literally been silenced and martyred is 574 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,440 Charlie Kirk. That's what's lost in all of this. And 575 00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:42,239 people can say horrible, horrible things, they can say the 576 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:47,039 most hate field things. I absolutely believe in that, But 577 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,079 I also believe that your employer has the right to 578 00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:54,760 say you're not going to say hateful and horrible things 579 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,559 on our dime. Yeah, also is a consideration, Matt. 580 00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:03,599 Speaker 2: See the tweet that the former president Barack Obama that 581 00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:06,800 he puts out today, I believe and he says something 582 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,920 to the effect of, you know, free speech is an 583 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,559 American right and something we should all partake in. Whether 584 00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:16,760 you're Charlie Kirk or Jimmy Kimmel, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, 585 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,519 but one of them is dead for exercising his free 586 00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:22,079 speech rights, and the other one is on a suspension. 587 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,559 And for you to in any way equate the two 588 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:31,119 and equate what the the consequence that both of them faced, again, 589 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,599 that's a that's a total justification for what happened. It 590 00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:37,199 is and it speaks to what I'm talking about in 591 00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:40,880 my book traders, because they really, oh, they are equal, 592 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,800 we'll call that equal. They know what, they know well 593 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,079 it's not. They know well it's not. But they're perfectly 594 00:35:46,119 --> 00:35:48,440 fine with that because they don't see they don't see 595 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,639 everyone as equal. So someone gets taken out, well that's 596 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,719 just fine. Let's talk about the guy who has suspended 597 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,679 from his you know, multimillion dollar job. 598 00:35:57,079 --> 00:36:01,039 Speaker 1: M hmm, absolutely. Yeah. The equivalency game is very fatiguing 599 00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:02,920 and it has been going on in the left for 600 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,880 a long time. And it's silly and it's stupid, but 601 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:12,320 they have forced through many different channels Americans too tired 602 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,199 Americans to have to buy into this or at least 603 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,440 say please just leave me alone, go do whatever you're 604 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:17,920 going to do. 605 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,679 Speaker 2: It's deadly, it's anti American. 606 00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:23,039 Speaker 1: It is and I think about Barack Obama, who was 607 00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:27,239 silencing journalists, and I mean, actually, you know, the corporate 608 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,840 journal the corporate media journalists that have been on his side, 609 00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:37,360 he was silencing them. You know. His policies and his 610 00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:44,280 era ended up with all kinds of silencings of conservative 611 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,000 individuals for having a different point of view than the 612 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:54,039 Obama height. So once again, the hypocrisy is baked in 613 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,679 to the American left at a degree that is astonishing. 614 00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:02,119 One of the things I really enjoy about your book, Eddie, is, 615 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,119 you know, the personalization of your book. You write about 616 00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:09,000 your mother who literally came to this country from Mexico 617 00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:14,719 and a shwed you know, you learning you and your 618 00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:20,280 sibling learning Spanish. She wanted you from the very beginning 619 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,119 to be an American. You are an American and she 620 00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:29,079 is an American, and she went through this whole process, 621 00:37:29,519 --> 00:37:33,199 something that the left doesn't fully understand legally, and so 622 00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:36,559 you write about when she sees, you know, as we've 623 00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:42,480 seen over the last several months, you know, Mexican Americans 624 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,039 waving their you know, their flags, their country flags are 625 00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:51,159 anywhere else. You know, she is mad about that, and 626 00:37:51,199 --> 00:37:54,960 that is you talk about this in context of how 627 00:37:55,079 --> 00:38:00,199 the American left has treated the illegal immigrant as opposed 628 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,960 to the legal immigrant and Americans in general. 629 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 2: Oh right, you know, if you literally they will fly 630 00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:14,000 out to get you, to bring you into this country 631 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,599 if they can, the illegals. Democrats, that's how they behave 632 00:38:17,679 --> 00:38:20,679 You saw it with the Brago Garcia when Chris van 633 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:25,239 Holand Democrat of Maryland, literally flies to Al Salvador to 634 00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:32,239 reimport this professed illegal alien, credibly accused of being a 635 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,760 violent gang member, credibly accused of being a wife beater, 636 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,639 and yet someone like my mother they would want to 637 00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:39,599 have nothing to do with. Yes, this was a woman 638 00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:44,679 who Mexican immigrant eventually naturalized under Reagan. She had me 639 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,400 and my sister, and the answers would always change over 640 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,519 the years, like why didn't you teach U Spanish? Because 641 00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:52,400 it kind of became a thing where it would have 642 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,280 been useful, like in you know, certain situations, useful for 643 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,760 jobs eventually, so we kind of wish that we that 644 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,039 we had known. But I understood why she did it eventually, 645 00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:05,119 and she I remember her saying, she said, I'm not 646 00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:06,840 going to go into too much detail about this, but 647 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,760 she said, I didn't want you to be like the 648 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,280 rest of them out there. I remember her saying that, 649 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,519 and I brought it up to here again when I 650 00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:14,920 was writing this part of the book. I said, do 651 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,440 you remember that? Do you remember saying? I said, I 652 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,800 think what you meant was we wouldn't have properly like assimilated. 653 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,920 And she said, yep, and I stand by that. I 654 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,159 still stand by that, and she just she wanted us 655 00:39:26,199 --> 00:39:28,599 to be as American as possible. She is as American 656 00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:31,239 as possible. You would look at me and you would see, like, 657 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,320 I'm not a white person. I'm you know, not the 658 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,599 darkest person, but you would say, he's not really white. 659 00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:38,800 He's something. You would definitely look at her and no, 660 00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:42,840 she's probably some type of Latina, but her English is 661 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,360 she's got just an American accent. Still speaks fluent Spanish, 662 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,199 but American accent. And yeah, when she sees it's been 663 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,960 my whole life. She still does it to this day. 664 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,679 And you know, we'll go to like a Latin heritage 665 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,760 festival or something. I used to hate him as a kid, 666 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,719 but now I enjoy him. We'll go to that kind 667 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,199 of thing. But when it's like the day to day, 668 00:40:03,079 --> 00:40:05,000 just through your life, if you see people with like 669 00:40:05,039 --> 00:40:09,480 a Puerto Rican flag in your in your uh, you know, 670 00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:12,599 in your hanging from your rear view mirror, or you 671 00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:15,519 see it displayed somewhere, or you're wearing that around your neck. 672 00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:19,400 She gets furious. She hates to see it. She says 673 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,840 that you cannot represent another country. Why are you here? Then? 674 00:40:24,039 --> 00:40:24,800 Why are you here? 675 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 1: Go back? 676 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 2: And yeah, just the point of this is to get 677 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,480 across it. And really just the entire first chapter is 678 00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:33,760 that we have a way of living here that is 679 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,679 distinct and unique and it should be celebrated by every 680 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:42,320 real patriotic American. And it's not you know, it's not ambiguous. 681 00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:45,360 It's not something that we can't define. It's not something 682 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,440 that you don't know. You don't you know. The left 683 00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:49,400 likes to be like, well, what what does it mean 684 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,719 to be an American? You you know it when you 685 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,360 see it. I'm sorry, you know when you see it. 686 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,159 There are other things we definitely know what we have 687 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,440 the Constitution, we have a we have a harrowing, fascinating 688 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,039 hit history here. All those things are important. But you 689 00:41:03,079 --> 00:41:05,400 certainly know an American when you see it, and you 690 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,480 know American behavior and conduct and someone who really subscribes 691 00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:13,039 to the American way, and the left just completely rejects 692 00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:16,639 it all. And and worst of it all is the 693 00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:19,280 way they do it in their policies, the way the 694 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,440 way that they're they excuse and exacerbate crime, the way 695 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,519 that they care nothing of order at least for at 696 00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:30,760 least for the people who don't have the money, who 697 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,000 don't have the access to power to get it. And 698 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,480 that's that's really the shame in that party is that 699 00:41:36,559 --> 00:41:39,639 they they and it's their voters sadly they cast them 700 00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:42,719 aside and say, you deal with it, you live, you 701 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,480 live in the filth. I'm gonna I'm going to live 702 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,440 in my gated community. Uh, I'm close to the government. 703 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,039 I'm going to fly private. You get to deal with 704 00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:54,159 all the garbage that that all of my policies have 705 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,719 created anti American because they don't believe in the equality. 706 00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,800 They don't believe everyone should have the same things or 707 00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:01,559 access to the same thing that they do. 708 00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:04,639 Speaker 1: One thing I know for certain, your mother is an 709 00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:10,440 exceptional American. And you know what, The pride in America 710 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:16,639 has been so shot up by the left over the 711 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,920 last several years. You note in your book that the 712 00:42:19,199 --> 00:42:22,320 left always likes to talk about America as an idea, 713 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,559 you know, a concept. It is. First of all, what 714 00:42:28,119 --> 00:42:33,280 the left has forgotten is that America is a geography 715 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,199 as well. It is a land, it is a country, 716 00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:41,000 and without borders, it cannot be that. And that's what 717 00:42:41,039 --> 00:42:44,559 they're absolutely trying to do. Erase those borders. And what 718 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:49,679 they're trying to do with that is sell Americans on 719 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:55,440 the idea that America is an evil place. And that 720 00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,239 is what I think breaks so many Americans hearts. So 721 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,119 I ask you this as we close, where do we 722 00:43:04,159 --> 00:43:08,679 go from here with that kind of mentality from a 723 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,679 significant portion of America. 724 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 2: I really believe, and we have our colleagues do a 725 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,079 really great job of writing about this. John Daniel Davidson 726 00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:23,760 wrote a piece just a couple of days ago about 727 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,960 how we can't share this country anymore and what that 728 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,800 means is that we have to win all of it. 729 00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:34,400 We have to win it. They can live here, but 730 00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:38,880 it can't be theirs in the sense of them having 731 00:43:39,519 --> 00:43:41,920 power and control in the big ways that they have 732 00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:45,119 had it, in the ways that they've wielded that power 733 00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:48,760 and control that have torn this country down. And I 734 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,599 really do believe that that is going to take all people, 735 00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:59,559 all average ordinary Americans of in their every They're going 736 00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:01,639 to have to start caring a lot more. They're going 737 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:06,440 to have to start saying, Okay, I've tried to be accommodating. 738 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:12,679 I have tolerated the anti social, anti American behavior of 739 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,400 people in my life who I've known. And this isn't 740 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,039 about cutting people off, but it is about standing up 741 00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:23,039 to those attitudes, those tendencies, the neuroses of the American left. 742 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,840 Because they do they the way that they are so 743 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,320 comfortable with conflict and contention in their personal lives and 744 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,079 their everyday lives. It has to be that the people 745 00:44:33,159 --> 00:44:35,719 like us, the real Americans, the people who love this 746 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,119 country and don't want to see it disappear, they have 747 00:44:38,159 --> 00:44:41,119 to say I'm not dealing with that, and that's enough, 748 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,559 and no, I don't agree with you, and you're wrong, 749 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,360 and here's why you're wrong, and it's enough. Otherwise we're 750 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,679 not going to have a relationship anymore. And you don't 751 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,800 want that. You don't want people limiting their social circles, 752 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,519 limiting their family circles. I don't want that for anybody. 753 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,599 But you're going to see this country disappear if you 754 00:44:58,599 --> 00:45:01,280 don't start standing up for what you believe and loudly 755 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:01,800 doing it. 756 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 1: I think to put it into terms that we've all 757 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,440 dealt with over our lifetimes, we deal with a lot of, 758 00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:11,960 or plenty of in our lives drama queens or drama kings, 759 00:45:12,199 --> 00:45:15,920 and you know, that's a lot of people have chosen to, 760 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,039 you know, either sever those relationships or try to redefine them. 761 00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:27,920 But you can't change those people that mentality. So it's 762 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,079 going to take again. I think you're absolutely right, a 763 00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:35,880 unification of the Saine. That's a word that you use 764 00:45:36,159 --> 00:45:39,320 multiple times in this book. We have to get back 765 00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:44,400 to sanity and reality, which is something the left has 766 00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:49,280 been protesting against for a mighty long time. Thanks to 767 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,880 my guest today, Eddie Scary, DC columnist at The Federalist 768 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,039 and author of the new book Traders, the Democrat Parties 769 00:45:57,079 --> 00:46:01,519 collapse into anti American filth. You've been listening to another 770 00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:04,440 edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, Senior 771 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,239 Elections correspondent at The Federalist. We'll be back soon with more. 772 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,400 Until then, stay lovers of freedom and anxious for the 773 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:29,800 Fray