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<v Speaker 1>Bill cunning in the Great America. Welcome this Wednesday, and

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<v Speaker 1>in the tri State getting ready for the Bengals on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll see what happens with the Brownies in town

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<v Speaker 1>if they have a two percent chance, and maybe by

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<v Speaker 1>the end of Sunny will have some sense how close

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals are getting in the playoffs and more. But

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<v Speaker 1>until then, David Yos is the Attorney General of the

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<v Speaker 1>State of Ohio. He walked in the shoes of Mike Dowaine,

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<v Speaker 1>who held the office for eight years, and David Yost

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<v Speaker 1>to welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, I read with interest the case called Dad's

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<v Speaker 1>Place in Brian, Ohio kind of out of our jurisdiction,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's illustrative of what civil authorities can do to

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<v Speaker 1>Christian facilities. So can you tell the American people about

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<v Speaker 1>Dad's Place and how you acted to stop out from occurring.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is kind of interesting. This is a little

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<v Speaker 2>street front church, and I'm going to tie it into

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati at a second, because there is this is an

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<v Speaker 2>important case, but it's a little street front shirt and

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<v Speaker 2>the pastor there keeps it open. Twenty four to seven

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<v Speaker 2>if you can believe that somebody's there twenty four to

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<v Speaker 2>seven all the time, and you can come in there

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<v Speaker 2>off the street, doesn't matter, no questions asked. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll give you food, they'll let you sit in a chair.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no beds or anything. But you know sometimes people

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<v Speaker 2>come in there and the coal winter, they'll sit in

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<v Speaker 2>those chairs all night long. And the city is not

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<v Speaker 2>happy about that. So they sent the building inspectors and

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<v Speaker 2>the zoning inspectors and the fire chief and started citing

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<v Speaker 2>them for you know, every little niggling code violation they

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<v Speaker 2>could find. Well, it's a storefront shirt, it's in an

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<v Speaker 2>old building. It's exactly what you're imagining right now when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about this. And the trouble is, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of other places in these same kinds of buildings

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<v Speaker 2>that get waivers, basically get a pass on it. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>there's even a hotel that where people sleep overnight where

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<v Speaker 2>some of these same violations have been you know, overlooked,

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<v Speaker 2>their their their grandfathered in. So the key issue is

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<v Speaker 2>a church definitely has to follow zoning and you know

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<v Speaker 2>building code, safety code violations and all that. Uh, they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're the codes, but you can't treat them worse than

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<v Speaker 2>you treat other businesses. Right. And so we're in court

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<v Speaker 2>right now arguing about it. Where the State of Ohio's

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<v Speaker 2>and amicus uh and UH first liberty I think is

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<v Speaker 2>actually representing uh Dad's place. But the way we got

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<v Speaker 2>an appeals court to issue a stay and UH, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>continue to talk about that. But the reason why I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is important to your listeners. You know, Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 2>is one of our great has one of our great

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<v Speaker 2>Catholic populations, uh in the United States. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>just asked to get involved in a case out of

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<v Speaker 2>Wisconsin that's headed for probably the Supreme Court, where Wisconsin

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<v Speaker 2>is saying, hey, you know, yeah, all that God stuff

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<v Speaker 2>is good. Yeah, you got First Amendment rights on that.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you take it so far as going out

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<v Speaker 2>and trying to do the homeless or you know, feed

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<v Speaker 2>the hungry, you know, that's not religion anymore. That's social

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<v Speaker 2>work and you're not protected. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And so in other words, why would the Attorney General

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<v Speaker 1>care about Dad's place in Brian, Ohio? Does it say

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<v Speaker 1>something larger about other difficulties practicing faiths in America? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that the main reason you're doing because I would think

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<v Speaker 1>when Dad's place showed up, here comes the Attorney General

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<v Speaker 1>to Brian Ohio, but the storefront ecumenical church that people

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<v Speaker 1>were saying, what the hell is David Yost doing here?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's exactly the point. If the government was allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you what is religious and what's not, that

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<v Speaker 2>you're allowed to preach, but you're not allowed to feed

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<v Speaker 2>the hungry. You know, you can, you know, celebrate the

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<v Speaker 2>Lord's Supper, but you know, we get to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>whether you know you're allowed to house the homeless and

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<v Speaker 2>give them shelter. Then the power to regulate is the

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<v Speaker 2>power to destroy, and we don't have a First Amendment anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>At that point, religion becomes something that you have to

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<v Speaker 2>do in pie private and wash your hands afterward.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're involved in that. Hopefully it'll set a larger

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<v Speaker 1>point on the second issue I want to go over

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<v Speaker 1>with you. And recently, about a week ago, our Governor

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<v Speaker 1>Mike DeWine signed into law a so called bill that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't shall we say, transgender hospitals and bathrooms. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>two different issues there, and one is a bathroom bill,

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<v Speaker 1>the other one is transgender rights and I just happened.

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<v Speaker 1>In preparation for the interview this afternoon. I went on

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<v Speaker 1>the website this morning of Children's Hospital in Cincinnati, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have a statement right there that we follow Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>law and we do not do puberty blockers. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>do hormonal replacement, we don't do surgeries. Because of a

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<v Speaker 1>law recently passed by the state of Ohio. There was

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<v Speaker 1>some I think regret that Children's Hospital couldn't do it,

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<v Speaker 1>but nonetheless it applies to Cincinnati nationwide. Can you explain

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<v Speaker 1>to the American people as we sit here this Wednesday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the law relative to teenage girls fourteen or

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen having double mass sectomies and having hysterectomies, And what

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<v Speaker 1>is the law now but a thirteen year old boy

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<v Speaker 1>having his testicles removed chemically and having his penis removed,

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<v Speaker 1>And what is the law, which I think is the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing is sick. It's ridiculous, especially when England about

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<v Speaker 1>a week ago said we're out of the business of

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<v Speaker 1>puberty blockers. This Scandinavian country said this isn't working. We've stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in the beginning of this process. So can you

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<v Speaker 1>explain to the American people. We have a great children's

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<v Speaker 1>hospital here, Cincinnati's Children's respective is the best in the

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<v Speaker 1>whole nation. But when it comes to puberty blockers and

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<v Speaker 1>hormonal surgery and double mass sectomies for thirteen year old girls,

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<v Speaker 1>I draw the line. What is the law of Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Bender wants to know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the line is about where you would like to

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<v Speaker 2>draw it, Bill, And let me say, I'm glad to

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<v Speaker 2>hear the Cincinnati Children's which was an opponent of this

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<v Speaker 2>law and when it was in the legislature, is publicly

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<v Speaker 2>saying that they want to comply. That good for them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good thing. The law now says that if

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<v Speaker 2>you're under eighteen, you can't do anything permanent medically about

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<v Speaker 2>gender transition, quote unquote. That's kind of the top line

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<v Speaker 2>you could still have. You know, you can still go

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<v Speaker 2>to mental health counseling, you can still talk to a pastor,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so it doesn't reach that. But we're drawing

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<v Speaker 2>the line at things that are going to change your

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<v Speaker 2>body permanently or even potentially permanently. So chemicals and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>endocrine therapy, hormone therapy. Certainly, chopping body parts off is

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<v Speaker 2>no you got to wait till you're eighteen to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if you're twenty or twenty five or nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>or thirty eight, and you have your wits about you

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<v Speaker 1>and you're a woman, you want to double mass sect

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<v Speaker 1>to me hysterectomy. You're a man and you want to

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<v Speaker 1>have your testicles cut off and other body parts removed,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can do that, correct, am I?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I have that right? It's a free country, and

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<v Speaker 2>the legislature has not, you know, attempted to regulate that,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, nor in my view should they. No.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I can't imagine having an argument today that if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a fifteen year old girl and you want a

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<v Speaker 1>double mass sectomy in a hysterectomy because you think you're

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<v Speaker 1>a boy, that somehow society would say, well, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me play devil's advocate. Let's say the mom.

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<v Speaker 1>And the dad loved their daughter slash son, and they

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<v Speaker 1>want a live daughter instead of a dead son. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the bumper sticker, which makes sense on the surface, but

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<v Speaker 1>look below, it doesn't make any sense. But let's say

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<v Speaker 1>that the mom and dad say we want this done.

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<v Speaker 1>The treating physician says, this is required for the mental health.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to cut off a penis for mental health.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the hospital says.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Who in the hell is David Yost and the people

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<v Speaker 1>of Ohisa.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't do that. I'll play Devil's advocate. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>answer that question? Yeah, well you know what the answer is,

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<v Speaker 2>because I've heard you get it. We protect children while

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<v Speaker 2>they're developing on all kinds of things. You can't go

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<v Speaker 2>into the military and fidal war when you're sixteen. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't buy beer, alcohol, cigarettes, cannabis. You can't get a

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<v Speaker 2>tattoo without your parents' permission. You can't vote even with

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<v Speaker 2>your parents' permission. And that's because people are under eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Plenty over eighteen, but under eighteen you're still growing up.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't make good judgment calls, and you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>who or what you're going to be when you're an adult.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a tumultuous time. And of course the state has

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<v Speaker 2>a right and an obligation in my view, to protect kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's true, and I point out that what happened

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<v Speaker 1>in Madison, Wisconsin a few days ago. I watched this

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<v Speaker 1>morning on CNN, the fifteen year old girl at a

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<v Speaker 1>firing range shooting ar fifteen's with her father's permission, also

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<v Speaker 1>shooting I think the murder weapon, the nine millimeter, and

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen year old girl who was not transgender but had

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<v Speaker 1>severe mental difficulties, had posted online all kind of weird

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<v Speaker 1>stuff about killing boys and killing men and that women

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<v Speaker 1>have to take over society. Hear idols were two guys

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen ninety nine Colmbine that named Harrison Cleebold.

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<v Speaker 1>Those two guys shot up Columbine High School. She was

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<v Speaker 1>wearing paraffine area that celebrated the murder of students. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching this going on, and I'm thinking, well, this

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<v Speaker 1>has happened in Ohio. It happened north of here. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen again. It happened in Butler County where

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<v Speaker 1>a student got off track, got off an emotional never

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<v Speaker 1>never land, and thought it was their duty to kill

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<v Speaker 1>fellow students, or in this case, kill boys and men.

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<v Speaker 1>And so as the attorney general. And also I'm listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the radical left telling us, and we need more laws,

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<v Speaker 1>so we don't we have enough laws on the books.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess carrying guns if you're fifteen years old in

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<v Speaker 1>the school must be legal because they say we need laws.

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<v Speaker 1>As the chief law enforcement officer, can you conjure up

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<v Speaker 1>some law that we could put on the books that

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<v Speaker 1>would stop a mentally troubled, emotionally disturbed fifteen year old

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<v Speaker 1>girl who is posting online nasty things about boys and men. Allegedly,

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<v Speaker 1>at least before it was taken down. The police have

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<v Speaker 1>not confirmed that in Madison, but the posting seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be hers, and that she lived in a dysfunctional house

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<v Speaker 1>in which the the husband and the wife had been

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<v Speaker 1>married to different partners, who was split between two households,

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<v Speaker 1>had every excuse to go off the rails. Is there

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<v Speaker 1>any new law we could pass that would stop this

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<v Speaker 1>from happening ahead of time?

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<v Speaker 2>Until you can figure out how to pass the law

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<v Speaker 2>that cures a human heart that's damaged, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how you do that. Honestly, we have laws. You're not

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<v Speaker 2>eight kids, You're not allowed to take guns to school. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's against the law. Let's start there. But at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, I think it's important, at least

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<v Speaker 2>on this segment where we're talking about kids going off

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<v Speaker 2>the rails in their schools, because they're the ones that

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<v Speaker 2>have the easiest access to the schools. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>time for us to realize that forgive me the baby

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<v Speaker 2>boomer's libertine approach to life, their hedonistic approach to life,

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<v Speaker 2>where they're treating their children as though they're fully formed adults,

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<v Speaker 2>able to make all of their own decisions, entitled to substantial,

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<v Speaker 2>robust privacy, is a failure. This is not the way

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<v Speaker 2>any society operates throughout history. Parents have an obligation to

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<v Speaker 2>society as well to their as to their own children

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<v Speaker 2>to raise them. And I mean saying, no, you're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to do that. No, you don't get privacy. Give

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<v Speaker 2>me your phone. I'm going to see what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just encourage all the people within the sound

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<v Speaker 2>of our voices to not buy into this notion that

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<v Speaker 2>you ought to treat your fifteen year old son or

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<v Speaker 2>old son or daughter. There's an eternity between those five years,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a difference in your legal and moral duties,

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<v Speaker 2>your ethical duties if you dislike the word moral.

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<v Speaker 1>In how you act as David Yost couldn't have said

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<v Speaker 1>it better. And somehow, I think even twenty year old

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<v Speaker 1>men and women are not men and women by the

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<v Speaker 1>true I think a male doesn't develop to the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five or thirty years old. That's a different issue. Lastly,

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<v Speaker 1>the big issue in Cincinnati right now, you're a big

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<v Speaker 1>wig in Columbus, is is homelessness. I'm looking at an

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<v Speaker 1>order signed on August sixteen, twenty eighteen, State of Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>Extral Joseph Tdaters versus the City of Cincinnati, in which

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<v Speaker 1>we have a terrible homeless problem here that exacerbated itself

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<v Speaker 1>with the burning down of I four seventy one.

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<v Speaker 2>People are going nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>And this order of consent decree says the City Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>Police and Health Departments, upon the request for its assistance

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<v Speaker 1>by the Sheriff's Office and other shall remove any existing

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<v Speaker 1>or future encampments on any unlicensed park. Campground does no

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<v Speaker 1>by statute. So I'm holding this order which is now

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<v Speaker 1>what about six years six and a half years old,

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<v Speaker 1>that says the City of Cincinnati is ordered to remove

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<v Speaker 1>homeless encampments. And right now, as I speak, there are

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<v Speaker 1>dozens of homeless encampments under bridges and public parks, including

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<v Speaker 1>in Mount Washington, that should not be There is there

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<v Speaker 1>any role for the Attorney general in this.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. I would have to look at the specific laws

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<v Speaker 2>that that order cites to be able to give you

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<v Speaker 2>a definitive legal answer. I'll send it to you. But look,

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<v Speaker 2>but look, this is Cincinnati's issue. And if Cincinnati wants

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<v Speaker 2>to tolerate an administration that ignores a court orders, that

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<v Speaker 2>is a local problem. That is not something where Columbus

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<v Speaker 2>ought to be coming in and dictating to the local town.

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<v Speaker 2>My question is, what the heck's going on down there? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Where's the prosecutor? Where's the city council? Do you lack

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<v Speaker 2>the courage to do what you've been ordered to do?

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<v Speaker 2>But I really don't think that we want to live

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, some kind of Demi god and order

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<v Speaker 2>all the local folks how to run their lives. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't like that when Washington tries to do it to us.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really eager to try to do that to

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<v Speaker 2>our local cities. And you know what, I know a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the people there. I think they're good hearted people,

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<v Speaker 2>they're smart. Don't get this, They'll get this right.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope, I hope down the road we actually follow

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<v Speaker 1>the law. But city council acts as if this is

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<v Speaker 1>a brand new problem, it's never existed before, and what

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<v Speaker 1>do we do with homeless And the fact is there's

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<v Speaker 1>an order saying what to do, and they ignore it

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<v Speaker 1>because it's politically inconvenient. David Yost, Attorney General, Merry Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>Happy New Year, thanks for setting the people straight on

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<v Speaker 1>homelessness and so much more, and thank you for coming

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bill Cunning Embers show and David Yost will

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<v Speaker 1>do it again.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. Very Christmas, my train and Christmas,

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<v Speaker 2>let's continue with more.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing how when laws are shall we say, non

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<v Speaker 1>political in the sense this is what you must do

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<v Speaker 1>whether you like it or not, Liberals and Democrats ignore

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<v Speaker 1>the law when it doesn't fit their political ideology, but

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<v Speaker 1>when it does fit the law, then they go nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>On this case, we have a clear law that says

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<v Speaker 1>they can't do this. They're ordered to remove the homeless

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<v Speaker 1>homeless camps immediately, and they refuse to do so. And

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<v Speaker 1>someone I'm maybe have on another lawyer later on and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what to do in this case. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is not the way things ought to be. Let's continue

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<v Speaker 1>with more. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred WLW