WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:46.719 Oh, bread of that sar oh, Hello and welcome to 2 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:47.200 the show. 3 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:50.439 This is the Cult of Conspiracy and I am the 4 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:52.920 Cajun Night And today. 5 00:00:52.640 --> 00:00:54.600 We have on an old homie of ours. 6 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:57.079 We haven't talked to him in too damn long, honestly, 7 00:00:57.600 --> 00:00:59.679 Nick from the Occult Rejects, Brother, how the hell you 8 00:00:59.759 --> 00:01:00.759 been good? 9 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:02.439 Very good? Thank you very much for having me on. 10 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:04.159 Man, It's like you said, it's been a minute, but 11 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:05.719 always have a good time whenever I came on. 12 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:08.599 Absolutely Now, last time we talked it was you and 13 00:01:08.680 --> 00:01:12.280 Teresa and you said that. Now you have like cycling 14 00:01:12.319 --> 00:01:15.079 through somewhere between six or seven co hosts. 15 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:16.040 Yeah, yay. 16 00:01:16.079 --> 00:01:20.599 There's me, Headless, Giant, Jin the Ninja, Robbie Marx. Then 17 00:01:20.599 --> 00:01:24.480 we have Jewels from Gray Pilled. I have Judith, she's new. 18 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:26.680 She was somebody who was in the oto with me 19 00:01:27.359 --> 00:01:28.920 when I was in it back in New York. 20 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:29.480 Wow. 21 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:30.959 I figured it should be a good fit and I 22 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:35.480 know it personally. Then I got branded from Maggus in 23 00:01:35.519 --> 00:01:38.680 the media recently, I have Arrows up and then I 24 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:40.200 added Maggus is a. 25 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:43.640 Girlfriend Kaiva Rose. And then we have Robbie Marx. 26 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:46.480 So I think that it's a decent amount of people, 27 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:50.719 so not everybody comes on though at the same time, 28 00:01:50.799 --> 00:01:52.560 which is one of the reasons why I did it. 29 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:54.799 So I don't burnt everybody out because I do. I 30 00:01:54.840 --> 00:01:56.599 do record a lot, and I can't expect everybody to 31 00:01:56.599 --> 00:01:59.599 always show up. I can recycle. Some people are better 32 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:02.560 for during the day, yeah, at night, you know, and 33 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:03.799 just different topics. 34 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:05.200 I better with different people. 35 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:08.360 Absolutely, So real quick, for those that don't know, you 36 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:10.680 had mentioned that you were a member of the OTO 37 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:13.159 in New York, and now you brought on. Now this 38 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:15.000 friend of yours, is she still in the OTO or 39 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:15.840 she stepped away from it? 40 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:19.360 Like you know, yeah, you know what's funny when I 41 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:23.319 had stepped away pretty much anybody in the order except 42 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:25.599 for like maybe three guys that I was pretty close 43 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:29.400 to that were also kind of frustrated and verbalized like 44 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:31.280 pretty much the same issues I had to me over 45 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:33.759 the phone or through text. I kept in touch with them, 46 00:02:33.759 --> 00:02:36.719 but besides that, everybody else I pretty much ghosted good. 47 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:38.240 I was just like, it's just. 48 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:40.599 Weird, yeah, And she was one of them, even though 49 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:43.319 like she didn't seem like, you know, like a weirdo. 50 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:45.719 She seems pretty cool and pretty normal. I just wasn't 51 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:48.520 sure where her head was at and with everything going on, 52 00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:50.560 I'm just gonna keep it real with COVID and George Floyd. 53 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:51.960 She was she was black, So I was just like, 54 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:54.000 you know, who knows? You know? With who knows? 55 00:02:54.120 --> 00:02:56.439 She's triggered and controlled by the TV right now, I 56 00:02:56.479 --> 00:03:01.560 don't know what's going on. But long story short, I 57 00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:05.360 reached out to her not too long ago because. 58 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:06.479 I was just like thinking about it. I was like, wonder, 59 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:07.479 how the hell she's doing. 60 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:09.479 I was talking to my one friend who left the 61 00:03:09.520 --> 00:03:11.280 OTO as well, and I asked him me, have you 62 00:03:11.319 --> 00:03:13.319 spoken to Judith or anybody? And he's like no, He's 63 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:15.000 like I thought about reaching out to I was like 64 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:17.080 me too, because me and him even did like two 65 00:03:17.080 --> 00:03:19.599 initiations with him, like I did my first and second 66 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:21.680 initiation with that woman as well with my friend Jordan. 67 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:26.319 Really yeah yeah, and uh so I hit her up 68 00:03:26.639 --> 00:03:29.080 and she was like, yo, you just she literally said, 69 00:03:29.080 --> 00:03:31.240 She's like, yo, you ghosted. She's like, what the fuck 70 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:33.159 happened to you? I said, I don't know, I said. 71 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:35.319 I started getting weird vibes from the OTO and all 72 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:37.360 that shit that was going on. Politically in COVID, I just, 73 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:39.759 you know, kind of got weirded out. And she was like, oh, 74 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:42.319 I guess the same reason I left. I was like, 75 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:45.120 oh you did. She's like getting around the same time. 76 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:47.879 She's like yeah, she's like, shit just did not make sense. 77 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:50.520 And she even noticed that they started kind of pushing, 78 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:55.039 like heavily pushing far left ideology. Yeah, and they got 79 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:56.840 crazy with like the vaccination shit. 80 00:03:56.960 --> 00:04:01.360 So to most people that are in into occult magic 81 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:04.360 and things like that are probably going to be more 82 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:07.400 liberal mindset. I'm not trying to be that guy, but 83 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:10.639 you're right, I'm throwing it out. I'm throwing it. 84 00:04:12.280 --> 00:04:12.560 No. 85 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:14.719 No, I don't mean just like you know, the white 86 00:04:14.719 --> 00:04:17.639 woman with some crystals and some some tarot cards, that 87 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:19.120 they could run the gambit on that one. 88 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:20.680 Specifically, the people. 89 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:22.959 That are going to go to the length of joining Oto, 90 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:28.000 they more often than not have a certain political ideology. 91 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:30.160 I don't think that's unfair to say. 92 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:33.399 No, I would agree with that, especially from my experience there. 93 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:35.720 I'd be totally honest with you, even when I was 94 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:38.319 never really heavily into politics at all, Like, even when 95 00:04:38.319 --> 00:04:40.920 I was there, I couldn't have told you like what 96 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:43.399 a far right person was or a far left person 97 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:47.439 really was, until certain things started getting like I guess 98 00:04:47.439 --> 00:04:51.360 somehow coming into the OTO and started seeing people's like 99 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:52.000 certain like. 100 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:53.639 I you know, their their opinions. 101 00:04:54.360 --> 00:04:57.879 I did notice that people that were fall left all 102 00:04:57.959 --> 00:04:59.800 did kind of exhibit a start you know, it was 103 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:02.720 a lot, yeah, and kind of exhibited the same behavior 104 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:04.720 and the same you know, they looked the same or whatever. 105 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:07.639 So for those that may not know, who may not 106 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:11.240 have heard you before your background in the OTO, right, 107 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:14.639 what is the OTO, I know it's Ordo Templi Orientis. 108 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:16.720 But for those that may not know, and in kind 109 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:19.040 of what that organization's about, if you can give the 110 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:22.199 brief synopsis, if you will. 111 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:25.279 Basically, it was an Freemasons. 112 00:05:25.279 --> 00:05:28.839 A couple of Freemasons had started it originally, and in 113 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:30.759 my opinion, it was to be much more of like 114 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:35.480 a Rosicrucion kind of magical order. And they was around 115 00:05:35.519 --> 00:05:37.800 for a few years, and then eventually they had came 116 00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:41.319 across Alista Crowley's Book of the Law, and this is 117 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:44.920 the supposed story, and they thought that he was like 118 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:47.720 pretty much like telling their secrets or whatever, giving up 119 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:49.920 the mysteries their mysteries in his book, and he was like, 120 00:05:49.959 --> 00:05:52.240 I have no idea who you people law something to 121 00:05:52.240 --> 00:05:55.600 that extent, And eventually they met up, they spoke to 122 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:58.879 each other, and they ended up giving it over to him, 123 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:02.439 and he changed some of the I guess, like initiations. 124 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:04.720 Instead of how many they normally have, which would be 125 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:07.519 a lot the Masons, he knocked it down to thirteen, 126 00:06:07.519 --> 00:06:09.199 which would be twelve with a minerval. 127 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:10.000 The minerval is. 128 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:12.439 Like the first one you'll take that's like half in, 129 00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:15.040 half out, and not a full member, but it allows 130 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:16.240 you to go to close the meetings. 131 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:18.439 He did that, and then. 132 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:20.560 He also changed it over to kind of like go 133 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:22.000 with the Book of the Law I guess would be 134 00:06:22.079 --> 00:06:25.240 like its holy book. And then you know, so that's 135 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:27.680 how it pretty much got changed and he took it over. 136 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:30.959 Okay, so I will say it wasn't founded by Crowley. However, 137 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:35.160 Crowley absolutely left his mark on Oto and he split 138 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:37.879 off and started the Lima off of Oto, if I'm 139 00:06:37.920 --> 00:06:38.920 not mistaken correct. 140 00:06:39.480 --> 00:06:42.879 Yeah, well, Oteo got changed over to like the Thlemic. Yeah, yeah, 141 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:45.120 when he took when he took it over, that it 142 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:47.480 was given the whole Thelemic overview. 143 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:50.560 Which is basically sex, magic and drugs a lot of it. 144 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:53.439 Yeah, yeah, yeah, going by what he did, Yeah, it 145 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:53.920 sounds like. 146 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:57.439 How does somebody like get into this, Like how did 147 00:06:57.480 --> 00:06:59.839 you get into this? Like did you just say some 148 00:07:00.199 --> 00:07:02.360 upon somebody and they just were like, hey, this is 149 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:04.120 something I. 150 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:05.319 Want to looking for this shit. 151 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:09.160 I was starting to get into ceremonial magic myself. I 152 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:12.600 was reading books, I watched a few videos on YouTube 153 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:16.000 to see how to do certain things, and I kind 154 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:17.839 of wanted to get involved into something that was a 155 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:20.639 little bit more regimented, kind of something that like, uh, 156 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:23.680 I guess like Wicka wasn't so much for me because 157 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:27.519 I felt like people just make shit up by like 158 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:29.639 I get results, you know, like they're gonna spin around 159 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:31.079 with the crystal in the hand and throw lavender over 160 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:32.399 their shoulder and they think they did something. 161 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:34.360 You know, I really just don't buy all that. 162 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:36.720 So I wanted to get into sometimes like you know, 163 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:39.600 kind of maybe, like I guess, more regimented and structured. 164 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:43.759 And in these orders, especially like the oto of the 165 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:48.279 Golden Doorn, certain things are like did on like either 166 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:51.480 the ritual or the writing that was put out. Some 167 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:54.360 of them will even like kind of say like this 168 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:56.399 is done this way because it's been proved the results, 169 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:58.680 so like this is you know, we're gonna stick with 170 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:01.399 this because it's worked before. So I wanted to kind 171 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:04.000 of go with something a little bit like that. I 172 00:08:04.040 --> 00:08:08.040 started looking up places. But I had asked actually at 173 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:09.560 first I had asked somebody that I knew that was 174 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:12.519 a Freemason and in the OTO, because I again the 175 00:08:12.560 --> 00:08:15.279 OTO actually wasn't my first choice. I had asked him 176 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:17.439 like what he thought, and I was like, what about 177 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:19.720 the Freemasons. He's like, no, He's like, because you'll have 178 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:21.639 to stay there forever before you could even get the 179 00:08:21.720 --> 00:08:24.040 ritual magic. He's like, you're gonna want an order that 180 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:27.360 like starts it off, you know, That's what it's about. 181 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:30.120 He suggested, like the Martinists, which there was none near me. 182 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:32.919 Yeah, the Dawn, which I was a little bit more 183 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:36.279 actually interested in and kind of what was much more 184 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:37.039 of my speed. 185 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:39.559 They got more of a history to him, that's for sure, 186 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:41.559 and a lot of big names were associated with them 187 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:43.759 in the eighteen hundreds and early nineteen hundreds. 188 00:08:44.039 --> 00:08:46.200 Yeah, plus like they're just their imagery too. 189 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:48.240 I guess was a little bit easier coming from somebody 190 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:50.519 with like a Christian a Catholic background, you know, just 191 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:53.080 to me, they looked a little bit more friendlier, that's fair. 192 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:57.559 And then the OTO there was so there wasn't that 193 00:08:57.600 --> 00:08:58.200 I knew of. 194 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:01.159 There was an there was a Golden dorm lodge on 195 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:03.360 the Long Island that I guess, you know, just wasn't 196 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:06.480 real easy to find online. So I did miss out 197 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:08.639 on that because I found out after the fact from 198 00:09:08.679 --> 00:09:11.759 somebody being on my show. But uh, there's an OTO 199 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:15.000 lodge that was like twenty minutes away. And I was like, well, 200 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:17.960 that's pretty fucking convenient. I was living in Queens and 201 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:20.840 it was in Queens. Yeah, I was like all right, 202 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:24.039 but like literally I was just like googling online, like. 203 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:25.399 I'm just going to ask. I was like, you just 204 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:25.879 googled it. 205 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:28.759 I've never actually like where places are, but I'm like, 206 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:31.879 quick little Google search hates down the street. 207 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:33.679 A lot of them. I see. 208 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:35.240 This is the thing, Like the OTO, they'll have their 209 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:37.440 they have their own major like website, website, and you 210 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:38.759 could look it up and it will tell you where 211 00:09:38.759 --> 00:09:41.240 all their lodges are. Like they don't hide that shit. 212 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:43.919 That's not part of the mysteries of the secrets you 213 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:46.440 know where they are. These things have rent. I'm sure 214 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:48.720 they want some people coming into pay rent with. 215 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:51.519 The We have a large one in New Orleans. Actually, no, 216 00:09:51.679 --> 00:09:52.120 I bet. 217 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:55.519 What's the thirteenth step? You said twelve? You said thirteen, 218 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:57.840 twelve s half in and. 219 00:09:57.799 --> 00:10:00.879 Then Okay, they're teen initiations. 220 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:03.519 The first one's minerval and that's like kind of like 221 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:06.039 half a member and half now like allows you to 222 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:09.240 go to closed meetings, but it doesn't mean that you're 223 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:14.039 actually a full initiate into the your Then there's twelve 224 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:18.200 other degrees after that, or initiations that you could take after. 225 00:10:19.159 --> 00:10:20.360 So what level did you get to? 226 00:10:21.799 --> 00:10:24.120 Asking the second degree after minerval? 227 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:28.279 Okay, so you were associated with the Believe it or 228 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:29.600 not as low as that sounds. 229 00:10:29.639 --> 00:10:32.639 That's like not top twenty percent of the OTO or 230 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:35.120 top twenty something percent in the OTO is actually second 231 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:35.720 degree higher? 232 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:38.480 Shows you how many firsts the minervals there is. It's 233 00:10:38.519 --> 00:10:39.080 pretty sad. 234 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:43.320 Yeah. So that being said, you were associated with the 235 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:44.480 organization for how long? 236 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:47.519 Probably about five or six years, because I mean, you 237 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:49.039 don't there's a time limit too. 238 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:50.240 In between these initiations. 239 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:52.759 You can't just keep taking them, and people have to 240 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:54.399 Actually you have to get two people to sign off 241 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:57.159 saying that they think that you're you're even mentally okay 242 00:10:57.159 --> 00:10:58.679 to do it, like they trust you. 243 00:10:58.679 --> 00:10:59.960 They don't think like you're fucking nuts. 244 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:02.799 That's the thing when you look at like these top 245 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:05.080 rank individuals, these are people that have been associated with 246 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:07.320 the organization for forty fifty years. 247 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:09.000 In some cases, there's some. 248 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:10.679 People there that were probably there for like at least 249 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:13.279 twenty bore sure, sure, wow. 250 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:15.279 So what did you If you don't, I don't know 251 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:16.919 if you want to talk about it, he's. 252 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:17.720 The open book anything. 253 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:20.759 Well, what did you What did you do to be 254 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:22.279 able to get to the second tier? 255 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:25.159 Like what was your actual ritual that you had to do? 256 00:11:25.960 --> 00:11:28.799 Uh? The maneuval. I'm trying to think if that was 257 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:32.639 a I think it was the first one manerval. 258 00:11:32.919 --> 00:11:35.879 Really it was just uh that one, you mean, like 259 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:38.759 the initiation, nothing too crazy. Trying to think which one 260 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:40.360 it was. I think it was the first degree. I 261 00:11:40.399 --> 00:11:43.240 will say, yeah, the first the manerval you kind of just. 262 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:43.720 Like walk in. 263 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:45.440 You act like they act like you're kind of like 264 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:47.080 strolling through I think the Middle East. 265 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:48.399 You had them to Heliopolis. 266 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:50.600 There's a big tent in the room that they kind 267 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:53.000 of like fucking totally ignore, and I actually think it's 268 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:54.559 like the optic nerve in your eye. 269 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:56.159 But that's a whole other discussion. 270 00:11:57.000 --> 00:12:02.480 Uh, But there's you basically like split off, You walk around, 271 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:06.000 you run into people. It's a lot of fucking shit that, honestly, 272 00:12:06.039 --> 00:12:07.960 I don't even remember what the fuck they're even saying. 273 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:10.159 You can find a book called the Secret Rituals of. 274 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:12.240 The Oto and you'll find the first few degrees in 275 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:14.360 there if you want to find it. It's a PDF, 276 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:18.519 and it's pretty on point, but like the first degree 277 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:22.559 is the minerval degree is nothing like really crazy. They will, 278 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:24.639 like I said, you'll start off with the rooms like 279 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:27.960 half cut and you're acting like that. These guards I 280 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:30.679 think I kind of capted you, like as you're crossing 281 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:33.759 or coming through, and they're telling you about the Book 282 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:35.720 of the Law, and if you want to join their shit, 283 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:38.320 or if you seem interested, then at some point in 284 00:12:38.360 --> 00:12:40.240 the other part of the room they bring it in and. 285 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:41.720 Then you sit down and you eat your shit. 286 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:44.080 You eat these little berries and nuts that they got, 287 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:45.480 and they tell you to read the Book of the Laws. 288 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:48.279 People are playing fucking instruments back there, and then they're 289 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:51.399 probably doing that to the other person because they do 290 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:53.360 like they do, you know, one person after the. 291 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:56.120 Next, and then after that like you kind. 292 00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:57.879 Of just you know whatever, you become a brother. Well 293 00:12:57.919 --> 00:13:00.039 well they that's really not until first degree, but my 294 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:01.759 lodge is already calling your brother or sister. 295 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:03.360 Nothing crazy. 296 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:05.200 The first degree, I will say, if you want to 297 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:07.120 complete that one, you're gonna have to get naked. 298 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:08.960 Yeah, for sure, for sure. 299 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:10.600 Yeah I had. 300 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:12.240 To, And I knew that was coming before I even 301 00:13:12.279 --> 00:13:14.360 took it, because again I read that book, The Secret 302 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:15.399 Rituals of the Udeo. 303 00:13:15.720 --> 00:13:19.360 Yeah, so it's basically as far as the initiate level, 304 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:22.080 it's you know a little bit of a song and dance, 305 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:25.399 a little bit of a parading around for a certain thing, 306 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:27.720 and then probably a swearing of some oaths. 307 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:31.200 Right oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, look try. The fact 308 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:33.279 I wasn't even supposed to tell you what happened is, now. 309 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:34.960 Did they make you do the Masonic thing where it's 310 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:37.000 if you ever speak of it, they'll cut you from there? 311 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:38.320 To hear employers like. 312 00:13:38.440 --> 00:13:40.360 The fucking dogs of the Abyss, I gonna drag you 313 00:13:40.399 --> 00:13:43.240 out all those crazy theatrical shit, right, that's hones say, 314 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:45.159 I'll be totally honest with you my opinion. 315 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:45.879 Whatever they're saying. 316 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:48.240 It's like, well, that's what the experience of magic is, 317 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:50.159 and that's why I'm here. So I don't know why 318 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:52.399 you're threatened me with that. That's what I'm trying to 319 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:57.279 get to. So uh but yeah, yeah, no, they do that. 320 00:13:57.480 --> 00:14:00.000 They'll do they give you every degree. They'll give you 321 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:04.480 like uh, there'll be like a handshake or grip. There'll 322 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:08.039 be also a word. There'll be a word for every 323 00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:10.360 degree as far as I know. And then there's like 324 00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:12.399 these like type of movements of things that you that 325 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:15.320 you can do. So yeah, yeah, there's like you know, 326 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:17.840 so that that is done, then you're supposed to swear 327 00:14:17.879 --> 00:14:19.039 not to repeat it like I said. 328 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:22.919 But yeah, yeah, the first one, like I said, you 329 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:26.240 will the one thing and the only way I. 330 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:28.720 Was able to do it, and it is because I 331 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:31.039 had two other people that like spoke to me about 332 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:32.080 it that were not in my lodge. 333 00:14:32.120 --> 00:14:34.480 It was people that I knew from other lodges. It's 334 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:34.679 all I have. 335 00:14:34.720 --> 00:14:36.519 I already read the book. So it says listen, I 336 00:14:36.519 --> 00:14:38.240 already know the deal. You gotta get fucking naked. 337 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:41.000 And I was like, you got naked or just like 338 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:42.200 you do you more? 339 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:43.080 No? 340 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:45.159 No, well no, no, that well, I'll explain, I'll explain 341 00:14:45.159 --> 00:14:47.159 what happens, but nothing crazy goes on with that. 342 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:52.240 Well besides, I was like, okay, we got naked. I 343 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:54.879 was like, well now why. 344 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:59.279 So so uh I As I'm reading the thing, I'm 345 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:01.759 trying to visual what's going on, and it does seem 346 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:04.840 to be that there was only like one candlelight in 347 00:15:04.879 --> 00:15:06.399 the whole, like you know, temporaria. 348 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:07.960 And that's the case. 349 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:11.200 And I could say, like, after you do like I 350 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:13.679 said before, after you do your initiation, you will sit 351 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:16.240 down with the people that are there now. Anybody who's 352 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:18.279 done the minerval can show up. Anybody who's done first 353 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:20.240 degree can show up, anybody who's done second degree and 354 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:22.480 so on. Those people will welcome back to watch other 355 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:24.440 people do it. So there will be some people there 356 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:29.519 you only saw, like the silhouettes, like I swear to God, 357 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:31.480 like even when my friend Jordan or Judith went, I 358 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:33.440 couldn't tell you I didn't see a nipple or a dick. 359 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:35.320 You know what I'm saying get it straight. I didn't 360 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:37.919 see anything of that as just silhouettes. The people that 361 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:40.840 I'm sure are doing the initiation and holding the fucking candle. 362 00:15:40.840 --> 00:15:43.279 I'm sure it is getting a show, but the people 363 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:44.759 sitting down you can't see anything. 364 00:15:44.799 --> 00:15:46.879 So that actually was enough for me to be like, 365 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:48.600 all right, I think you can pull this fucking off. 366 00:15:49.480 --> 00:15:54.159 So uh I did do that. They will. There is 367 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:55.320 some part where. 368 00:15:55.159 --> 00:15:57.559 They do show that like they're kind of like cutting cord, 369 00:15:57.600 --> 00:16:00.080 like a kind of cutting a cord off of you. 370 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:02.600 Just the thing is is that, like looking at it now, 371 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:04.440 it kind of does look like they're walking here around 372 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:06.720 like a fucking dog with like a thing around around 373 00:16:06.799 --> 00:16:09.759 you and pulling you as you walk around the lodge naked, 374 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:13.720 you know. So it is like, I guess which way 375 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:15.559 you want to look at it. It could be humiliating 376 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:19.399 in a sense, you know. I I didn't really think 377 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:21.559 of that until like I was like thinking about, like 378 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:23.120 what did that actually look like? 379 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:24.639 And I'm like, all right, Like those were kind of 380 00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:33.440 fucking pathetic humiliate So uh yeah, that one. 381 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:35.600 You know what, this is the one thing too that 382 00:16:35.840 --> 00:16:39.440 even maybe kind of stop going in the first, you know, 383 00:16:39.480 --> 00:16:42.200 the first ones that he did maneval first and second 384 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:46.120 they will straight up tell you each one of them. 385 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:49.240 The first time they're like, basically, don't trust anybody except yourself. 386 00:16:50.919 --> 00:16:54.639 Then then the first degree they'll really idiot, they'll reiterate 387 00:16:54.679 --> 00:16:58.360 that again and like they like it's near the end and. 388 00:16:58.279 --> 00:17:01.039 It's like they like say it to where it's just 389 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:04.000 like you like, I don't know for me how you 390 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:06.200 did not remember they said it that the last one 391 00:17:06.240 --> 00:17:09.319 like that, And then in the second degree, they're even 392 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:13.160 telling you you should not like trust like your surroundings 393 00:17:13.279 --> 00:17:16.000 or the other people around you, your brothers and sisters. 394 00:17:16.039 --> 00:17:17.279 They even make you go through some. 395 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:19.920 Shit to prove this, to say you shouldn't trust your 396 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:22.400 brothers and sisters and you shouldn't even trust everything you 397 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:24.640 know as everything as it seems, you should only trust yourself. 398 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:28.039 So I was even like, that's three fucking times now 399 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:29.279 you've told me this in a row. 400 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:29.839 That's weird. 401 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:32.200 Why the fuck am I coming back right? 402 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:32.839 That's weird? 403 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:34.599 Do you think they would want to like brainwash you 404 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:37.359 into thinking like you should only trust the people around 405 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:40.680 you period, and like everyone else is just fucked up 406 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:43.039 and this is what you need, is these group of people. 407 00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:44.599 That's how cults usually works. 408 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:48.200 That's really strange why they don't trust somebody. 409 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:50.160 I wonder if it's just like, yo, we just told 410 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:52.000 you three times in a row, our hands are clean. 411 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:53.920 Now you keep fucking going. This is on your own 412 00:17:53.960 --> 00:17:55.079 fucking problem. 413 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:58.079 M It makes a lot more sense. Yeah, what was 414 00:17:58.119 --> 00:18:00.640 the thing that we were talking about earlier today about 415 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:03.759 if they tell us in their face, then they will 416 00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:04.599 be able to make. 417 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:06.319 Karmack balance bullshit? 418 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:10.200 Which, for the record, I don't agree with karma likes 419 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:12.640 in the raw form of Yeah, if you do good shit, 420 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:13.559 good shit happens to you. 421 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:17.960 Find sure, of course. But the whole conversation about how this. 422 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:21.599 Ties back to the Vedics and the karmak system is 423 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:24.680 what also gave them the cast system where the untouchables 424 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:28.200 were lower than animals. But that's all okay for karma somehow, 425 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:30.240 if you do good to others, then you'll have good 426 00:18:30.279 --> 00:18:32.839 things happen to you, unless it's to the untouchables, then 427 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:34.640 fuck them and you'll still have good things happening. It's like, 428 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:37.440 so your whole karma thing is bullshit, start to finish 429 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:38.559 by the Vedic law. 430 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:39.599 But okay, but it. 431 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:41.759 Wasn't that I finally had to explain to me in 432 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:44.559 a way that made sense. It's like, uh, when you 433 00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:47.720 are going out with your friends in high school and 434 00:18:47.799 --> 00:18:49.559 you' allre going to go sit in the woods somewhere 435 00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:50.960 and get shit faced and smoke weed. 436 00:18:51.079 --> 00:18:53.279 Yeah, yeah, behind the malls shit you know, all right, and. 437 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:56.400 It's your turn to provide the libations, right, And so 438 00:18:56.440 --> 00:18:58.240 you're walking out of the house like eight thirty at 439 00:18:58.319 --> 00:19:01.079 night with your booksack on a Saturday, and your mom's like, well, 440 00:19:01.119 --> 00:19:03.880 what are you doing or what's in the bag? Well, 441 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:06.880 a bunch of liquor and weed, you know, and your 442 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:10.160 mom's like, okay, whatever, have fun. And then if you 443 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:11.759 ever get caught, you'd be like, mom, I told you 444 00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:12.640 what was in the bag. 445 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:14.200 Well, I thought you were joking. 446 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:16.240 I told you what was in the bag, mom. 447 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:18.519 So it's like that, as far as the Carmick balance, 448 00:19:18.519 --> 00:19:21.880 they're doing things in plain sight because it's so ridiculous 449 00:19:21.920 --> 00:19:25.559 and so audacious, there's no way people actually believe it. 450 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:27.880 When I heard it finally explain like that, it's like, 451 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:30.240 okay that I could see them doing. 452 00:19:30.279 --> 00:19:32.000 They're ballsy. They're very ballsy. 453 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:35.359 It makes fun, Like what happened in the second and 454 00:19:35.400 --> 00:19:38.240 I'll explain it and the you know, for real, for real, 455 00:19:38.759 --> 00:19:43.400 the one time I did COVID with the initiations that much. Unfortunately, 456 00:19:43.440 --> 00:19:44.759 there's a chick in the lodge that it used to 457 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:46.720 be cool with that actually is a lawyer for the OTO. 458 00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:49.680 She took my shit down on spreaker, rumble bit, shoot 459 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:53.839 and everything. Oh so, like you might, yeah, they have 460 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:55.960 been watching me now. I do know that for a fact, 461 00:19:55.960 --> 00:19:57.839 because I've had a lot of people associated with the 462 00:19:57.880 --> 00:19:58.920 OTO on my show. 463 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:02.279 So but I'll keep going into it. 464 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:05.960 But in the second degree, there's a point where there's 465 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:08.559 like it's like a makeshift chacouzzie. 466 00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:10.480 It's like this big tub. 467 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:12.240 That that that they kind of like put together and 468 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:16.200 made it didn'tly was impressive, It was impressive. And uh, 469 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:20.920 it's in the middle of the thing. And at some 470 00:20:21.039 --> 00:20:23.559 point they ask you to go up to it, and 471 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:25.440 you I had a female and a male with me. 472 00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:26.880 I don't know if it has to be like that 473 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:29.440 all the time. You know, it's say brothers and sister, 474 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:33.519 but they're walking up to it with me, and then 475 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:39.000 I am told to like try to lean in to 476 00:20:39.440 --> 00:20:42.000 the uh into the tub to get a drink of 477 00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:44.279 work or to quench my thirst or something like that. 478 00:20:44.359 --> 00:20:45.839 I don't think they say water. 479 00:20:46.720 --> 00:20:49.440 And like I'm like listening to them as they're saying, 480 00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:51.000 like how to do it, and I'm picturing it in 481 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:52.599 my head. And then I even said, like, all right, 482 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:55.359 repeat that again, excuse me something like that, and I'm like, yo, 483 00:20:55.400 --> 00:20:57.839 that's almost physically impossible. Like I'm like picturing like a 484 00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:00.079 bird trying to drink out of a bird feeder, like 485 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:01.039 upside down the backwards. 486 00:21:01.079 --> 00:21:03.440 I was just like, yo, That'm like I'm thinking in my. 487 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:06.000 Head, I'm like I'm probably gonna fall in, or they're 488 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:06.680 gonna push me in. 489 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:08.559 And that's what they do. 490 00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:11.680 The two next to you push you in the moral 491 00:21:11.720 --> 00:21:13.559 of that story when you get out and don't trust 492 00:21:13.559 --> 00:21:14.839 your brothers and sisters. 493 00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:18.359 So then and then there's another thing where they put 494 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:19.680 this a piece. 495 00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:22.160 Of wood that like at the top has like a 496 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:23.759 screw with like a hole in it where you could 497 00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:26.000 put your thumb through it and screw it down. But 498 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:29.240 on the bottom there's like a little fucking hole. So 499 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:31.200 like they're saying, like, put your thumb in there, and 500 00:21:31.240 --> 00:21:34.200 then turned the screw down as far as you can 501 00:21:34.319 --> 00:21:37.200 to show your dedication to horse. So I was like, 502 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:38.720 all right, Like I didn't put it to it like 503 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:40.480 hurt right, just you know, figured i'd go with the 504 00:21:40.519 --> 00:21:43.440 whole thing. I actually didn't. I guess I skimmed through it. 505 00:21:43.640 --> 00:21:45.039 Well maybe I knew and I didn't want to make 506 00:21:45.079 --> 00:21:47.599 it look too obvious. But like you you go through that, 507 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:50.519 and then they're like, see, they're like, now if you 508 00:21:50.519 --> 00:21:53.000 you know whatever, they showed you the bottom of the thing. 509 00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:54.839 They're like, you could have stuck your thumb in there 510 00:21:54.880 --> 00:21:56.559 and then twisted the screw all the way down. You 511 00:21:56.559 --> 00:21:58.599 went and felt the thing, and that was like not 512 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:05.480 everything is as it seems. 513 00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:06.319 Like they really want you to be, like you think 514 00:22:06.319 --> 00:22:09.680 they would want you to be more trusting of everyone around. 515 00:22:09.359 --> 00:22:13.160 You once you're looking out for number one, Yeah, that's odd. 516 00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:17.799 Then that after you do initiations, they will have like 517 00:22:17.839 --> 00:22:19.960 a class. Normally they try to do it within like 518 00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:22.640 the month after it happened, within that month to. 519 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:25.559 Kind of go over like a little bit about like what. 520 00:22:25.519 --> 00:22:27.240 Was going on and like you know what you could 521 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:30.200 maybe take out of that blah blah blah. And sometimes 522 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:31.720 they normally try to have the people who ran the 523 00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:34.519 initiation too. At the end of the second one, they 524 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:38.319 start like letting you know, like different things that you 525 00:22:38.359 --> 00:22:40.559 could do at different degrees that would be like a 526 00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:46.720 service or or qualifications. And as you started getting up. 527 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:49.240 I can't remember exactly which one it was, it was 528 00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:52.799 like maybe six or seven around there. I'm almost positive 529 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:54.839 the way they worded it that like even the person 530 00:22:54.880 --> 00:22:57.119 that you were with might have had to have eventually 531 00:22:57.160 --> 00:23:00.079 like joined the beat a member. And I was already like, 532 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:03.000 that's not gonna work with my wife at the time. 533 00:23:03.160 --> 00:23:03.759 Was my wife? 534 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:06.000 I was like, because another thing in the gnostic mass 535 00:23:06.039 --> 00:23:07.400 titties come out. 536 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:08.759 I was like, she shows up. 537 00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:10.640 And sees fucking titties, she's gonna be dragging me the 538 00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:13.000 fuck out of there, right, the idea that that ship 539 00:23:13.119 --> 00:23:15.200 was going on, I mean, I did ask you to come, 540 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:18.200 she never came, you know, so I'm sure if she 541 00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:19.640 saw what the fuck. 542 00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:22.079 So that was one that I was like, that's gonna 543 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:22.759 be a hard cell. 544 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:24.839 So like I was already realizing, Plus I knew that 545 00:23:24.880 --> 00:23:26.960 the place wasn't gonna be for me. What blew my 546 00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:29.640 fucking mard is when they got to the eighth they 547 00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:32.079 got to the eighth degree, you will be signing over 548 00:23:32.119 --> 00:23:33.240 your ship to the fucking launch. 549 00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:34.640 Yeah, to the order. 550 00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:36.960 So I'm like, well, now it's a fucking cold yep. 551 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:40.359 And then the tenth degree gets to fucking split it all. 552 00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:44.119 So you sign all your personal belongings over on the 553 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:47.440 eighth and then the tenth will split your personal belongings. 554 00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:51.640 Like everybody supposedly gets split between everybody. That's that. 555 00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:54.640 That is what I've been told on my show. I 556 00:23:54.640 --> 00:23:56.720 had somebody on my show who was a tenth degree person. 557 00:23:56.799 --> 00:23:59.319 I'm not knocking to good guess they said that they 558 00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:01.759 were X. Somebody else who was on my show that 559 00:24:01.880 --> 00:24:03.680 was like kind of around it the you know, around 560 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:05.359 the time of even the lodge that I used to 561 00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:08.799 go to opening up said they highly doubt that he 562 00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:11.119 stopped that tenth degree because if you did, that means 563 00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:12.960 you had to give up everything that everybody gave you 564 00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:14.920 from the eighth degree, he says, because everybody in the 565 00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:18.440 tenth degree get gets gets their hands in that. So 566 00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:20.799 long story short, yeah, I'm going by what somebody told me, 567 00:24:20.839 --> 00:24:22.920 and if that's sure, I do have to question why 568 00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:25.160 would you do that? I would think by the tenth degree, 569 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:26.799 if you've made it that high up. You're kind of 570 00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:28.960 stuck there now or you're going to lose a lot financially. 571 00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:33.319 Right, So what's the highest degree you ever met, like personally. 572 00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:37.160 Personally like in person. 573 00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:42.720 Yeah, I think like maybe fifth, So like your lodge 574 00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:44.759 leader show tenth. 575 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:48.720 Yeah, so the leader of your lodge whoa one of 576 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:49.359 the people there? 577 00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:51.640 Yes? Was I think that high up? Wow? 578 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:54.880 So we're not even talking up to the thirteenth. 579 00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:59.160 I wonder how many thirteenth There are very few, very 580 00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:03.960 very small. Probably only a handful. Yeah, I never really 581 00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:05.160 understood the cult thing. 582 00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:07.279 It may only be like I want to tell you 583 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:07.680 the truth. 584 00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:11.519 Yeah, maybe yeah, because I think like even at tenth, 585 00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:12.880 I think there's only a handful. 586 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:15.480 Because OTO is not exactly a large organization. They are 587 00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:17.720 all over like they're they're all over the world. 588 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:21.519 You're right up, bro, tell you the truth my show. 589 00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:25.000 So definitely your show has more listeners in that border 590 00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:28.039 has fucking members. Oh, I believe that I could influence that. 591 00:25:28.039 --> 00:25:30.279 I can influence you a cold community fucking faster than 592 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:31.200 they can if I wanted to. 593 00:25:31.400 --> 00:25:34.559 So the lodge in New Orleans, it's been so long 594 00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:37.119 since I even like two thousand members. 595 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:40.200 Yeah, it's like twenty even if I'll give him twenty. 596 00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:42.880 Thousands, because my uncle hasn't somehow stumbled upon this. My 597 00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:45.480 uncle's actually was I don't know if he still is. 598 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:48.680 He was wicked for a long time, so I'm just 599 00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:49.720 I wonder. 600 00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:52.240 But the Wickings that wouldn't get down with Oto because 601 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:53.839 this is the way to regiment to Wickeds are more 602 00:25:53.880 --> 00:25:54.440 eclectic and. 603 00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:57.519 Free from Yeah, that's that's fair. He's definitely more. 604 00:25:57.519 --> 00:25:59.599 That's really interesting. Wicka came from them. 605 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:03.279 I believe that Nyl Gardner was a student of Alsta 606 00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:05.359 Crowley and he was even given a charter to open 607 00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:06.079 up his own watch. 608 00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:09.119 And he's like Noah instead, huh. 609 00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:12.519 I know that my uncle is. 610 00:26:12.519 --> 00:26:14.640 Part of the Goddess is almost Book of the Law 611 00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:17.559 and somebody other. It's like three other people just mixed together. 612 00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:20.039 You could definitely see that he took ship from Croly's 613 00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:22.680 Book of the Law for charge of the Goddess. Fucking believe. 614 00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:27.559 That's interesting. I know that he's read all he I 615 00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:29.200 don't know what he's I need. 616 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:31.160 To call plagiarism and forgery, but I. 617 00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:34.160 Knew that he was. He was in that for all years, so. 618 00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:37.960 Yeah, I believe it all those new neo people that 619 00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:41.119 we know, like you know, Kroley and Blovotsky and just like. 620 00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:44.759 Such a charlatan that it's not even funny. 621 00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:47.640 And people all regurgitated other people's ship that that people 622 00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:48.240 didn't know about. 623 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:51.319 That's all he did, right, give it on to something. 624 00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:54.319 But they regurgitated a lot of people from the fifteenth 625 00:26:54.319 --> 00:26:56.759 and sixteenth century. 626 00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:58.839 Right from the actual Enlightenment period, where people will actually 627 00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:02.279 this is the first time you're hurt. Oh yeah, yeah, 628 00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:04.400 but it's like this is the first time that Europeans 629 00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:06.680 had ever heard this shit ever. And then a couple 630 00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:09.640 hundred years later people kind of forget about that. Blavotsky 631 00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:13.599 goes out east and meets especially America, right, goes and 632 00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:16.319 meets some sort of enlightened master with some sort of 633 00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:18.920 a title that doesn't actually exist with a reshet or 634 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:21.839 something like that, comes back and tells them all these 635 00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:23.559 things that she saw in the astral and. 636 00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:26.599 These people are like, she's so enlightened. No, it's called 637 00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:30.079 being a fraud, but like, sure, we should get down heavy. 638 00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:32.160 But you can make up anything, and as long as 639 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:35.640 you have enough confidence in yourself, you can convince at 640 00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:38.359 least like if you're talking about ten people. 641 00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:41.400 You could at least convince no shit three out of ten. 642 00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:44.079 If you have enough confidence and you portray that you 643 00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:46.400 believe this one hundred percent, you can get people. 644 00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:48.200 Oh you act like, yeah, you're right. If you act, 645 00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:51.039 you'll get You'll get at least a third. I get 646 00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:51.400 it to you. 647 00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:54.319 Oh yeah, I mean really good. You'll get more than that. 648 00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:57.160 Oh, normally you probably get more than that. But uh, 649 00:27:57.400 --> 00:27:59.640 you know, we're just talking on like the low ball end. 650 00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:02.279 But I and it's pretty easy. If you say it 651 00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:05.240 enough times and you repeat the same key phrases enough 652 00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:08.880 times to people, and you have enough confidence, they're going 653 00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:11.240 to continuously hear it on repeat if you do it 654 00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:14.119 over and over again, and it sinks into their subconscious 655 00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:16.160 and so then they want to join a cult that 656 00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:17.079 you've somehow created. 657 00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:19.279 And you're just like, you know what, come on, join 658 00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:22.200 my cult. It's great. I low key kind of want 659 00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:23.599 to start a cult just for the hell of it. 660 00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:28.480 Oh Jesus Christ, we already have one, right there, you go. 661 00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:30.279 I mean we technically do. I guess. 662 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:32.119 But did you hear the Ranchi occult? 663 00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:34.720 I've heard of it, don't know much the name, but 664 00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:35.279 I don't know. 665 00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:39.920 Actually, fun fact that actually came from the Kellogg's family. Really. 666 00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:45.400 Yeah, Kellogg's niece was supposedly like the chick who transcribed. 667 00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:50.079 There's always just like Crowley, I mean, I keep it real, 668 00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:52.799 like a lot of actual religions too, there's always some channel. 669 00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:56.400 I mean, you're talking to some higher being. Supposedly was 670 00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:58.319 like the scribe for the guy who got there the 671 00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:01.480 Ranchia book and that turned into a cult. And they 672 00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:03.680 also own Celestial Seasoning Tea. 673 00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:04.839 What. 674 00:29:05.319 --> 00:29:08.920 Yeah, so I saw a guy talk about this on Instagram. 675 00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:12.440 They do that does all the breakdowns of companies. I 676 00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:15.440 saw that on Yeah, they all own different parts of it. 677 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:17.200 Oh, family was crazy to be given. 678 00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:22.720 Bro, you know how cornflakes became a cereal crazy motherfucker. 679 00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:25.480 Yeah, this dude wanted to keep boys from masturbating. 680 00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:28.000 I'm sorry, I actually don't know this story. 681 00:29:28.039 --> 00:29:29.920 Okay, so I'll give you a quick little history. 682 00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:34.799 Let's here we go old Granddaddy Calog who also ran 683 00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:37.799 ah like I don't want to say a mental asylum, but. 684 00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:40.880 Yeah, it's called a center sanatorium. 685 00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:45.039 Yes, he own a sanatorium, and he truly believed that 686 00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:49.599 people touching themselves, but specifically men because women if they masturbate, 687 00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:53.720 clearly they need to be put in the solum right, clearly, 688 00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:58.319 obviously these women a lot, right, And so this dude 689 00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:00.400 Kellogg decided, do you know when to do? 690 00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:00.640 You know? 691 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.000 It's gonna keep these boys from touching their own dicks 692 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:07.599 and excreting this fucking demon Salman out of them. We 693 00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:12.359 need to make the blandest, most boringest cereal ever on earth, 694 00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:15.279 and we're gonna sell that to the masses, and we're 695 00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:17.640 gonna market it like it's the cool, new hip thing. 696 00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:20.759 In reality, it is as boring as you could possibly 697 00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:23.079 make it. And this is gonna keep boys from masturbating. 698 00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:24.160 This is clearly gonna work. 699 00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:27.400 Obviously full I really, they didn't put drugs in it. 700 00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:29.960 No, And if you question this story, any good cult 701 00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:32.680 member out there, please look it up. This is absolutely, historically, 702 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:34.759 factually why corn flakes became a thing. 703 00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:36.720 He was even weird with how many times you were 704 00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:39.680 supposed to chew calledmestication. Yeah, like supposed to chew a 705 00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:41.559 certain amount of times before you even swallowed. 706 00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:44.880 He thought more than three choes for a bite of 707 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:47.400 of not even frost of flakes, excuse me, the frosting 708 00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:49.319 that would have he would. 709 00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:52.559 There, Yeah, because he's like, hey, why don't we throw 710 00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:55.440 sugar on this ship. He's like, that's a really bad idea. 711 00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:57.359 The demons will get them whatever. 712 00:30:57.400 --> 00:30:59.599 He basically thought that if you have to chew corn 713 00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:02.480 flakes more than three times, then like you're just trying 714 00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:03.960 to hide your need to masturbate. 715 00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:05.480 He's retarded. 716 00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:07.160 You know, it's it's actually real. 717 00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:08.400 Just thought I was joking. 718 00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:12.039 I had to google it just to just to be sure. 719 00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:14.960 I'm almost positive if you google it, if you google this, 720 00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:20.480 I'm almost positive this is. He circumcised himself on wedding nights. 721 00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:21.640 Yes, he did. 722 00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:24.880 He believed that sex and masturbation were unhealthy for the 723 00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:28.640 mind and body, creating corn flakes as a decidedly plain 724 00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:33.039 meal to prevent masturbation, advocated for yogurt enemas to prevent 725 00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:34.640 people from pleasuring themselves. 726 00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:37.640 Yeah, because again, you know, it's gonna make a dude 727 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:39.519 not want to stroke his dick. 728 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.640 Oh yeah, what are we talking about? 729 00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:48.160 You know what, We're gonna have to make the stick 730 00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:52.160 your butt stuff because you know what, yog with corn 731 00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:54.880 flakes and yoga. I'm gonna have you eaten bowl corn 732 00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:57.240 flakes and I'll have like a yogurt stick in the 733 00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:01.400 background and like yay, have like a little bottomies like stick. 734 00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:04.440 On the other hand, like, let's go kell. 735 00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:09.079 His niece transcribed things for a cult. Yeah yeah, the rich. Yeah, 736 00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:09.400 like the. 737 00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:12.119 Guy that uh that supposedly had like the contact. I 738 00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:13.599 think she was the one who wrote down what he 739 00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:16.319 said and I became like the Ranchio book, Oh what's 740 00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:17.240 that phase for Raven? 741 00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:20.759 Would you find he never consummated his marriage. No, he 742 00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:23.640 slept in another room and he adopted children rather than 743 00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:27.279 impregnanating his partner. He was so anti sex that he 744 00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:29.920 like literally would not touch this woman, which, for the 745 00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:31.599 self pollution is a crime. 746 00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:35.160 It is extremely gnostic of him to have that belief, 747 00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:37.599 because that's the thing the Gnostics did. They truly that 748 00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.400 sex was evil. The Cathars took it to the next 749 00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:43.799 level and were like, if you're even trying to attach 750 00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:46.920 another soul to a body into this evil existence, then 751 00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:47.880 what are you even doing. 752 00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:49.960 You're going straight to hail. It's a whole thing. 753 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:52.200 So like he wrote a book, Oh yeah, he wrote 754 00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:55.839 a book, Yes, plain facts for old and young, embracing 755 00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:59.279 the natural history and hygiene of organic life. He described 756 00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:02.559 thirty cents thirty nine different symptoms in which he were 757 00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:07.960 which were caused by masturbation. That included epilepsy, acne, bad posture, 758 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:14.039 stiff joints, infirmatory, poor development, fickleness, palpitations, and. 759 00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:17.480 Then some fickleness, fickleedness, how dare you? 760 00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:22.799 Oh, and meat and rich flavors increased sexual desire, so. 761 00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:23.920 You're not allowed to have those either. 762 00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:25.319 By the way, I mean to be honest with you, 763 00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:28.759 after I slam down a steak, fucking sounds really good, 764 00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:31.000 to be completely honest with you, honestly. 765 00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:38.880 Stomach like it's no, no, like maybe some maybe some 766 00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:43.880 like you know, I don't know, scallops, scallops like some 767 00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:49.119 some ponds prawns, we call them shrimp. 768 00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:50.880 And what are we doing? 769 00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:55.480 Yeah things, you know what I'm talking about. 770 00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:58.160 So basically, yeah, this dude was obviously out of his 771 00:33:58.240 --> 00:33:59.480 fucking mind and so. 772 00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:01.400 Shocking right now. 773 00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:03.799 He was into eugenics as well too. 774 00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:05.759 A lot of people wore back then, but especially him, 775 00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:08.559 being an educated, learned man, even though. 776 00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:09.639 He was important. 777 00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:11.079 Yeah, yeah, he was the actual doctor. 778 00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:15.199 He was big with eugenics, but never consummated his marriage 779 00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:18.039 to produce an offspring, so It's funny how that works 780 00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:21.239 out right, you know. 781 00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:27.039 He developed an inema machine, an inima machine. 782 00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:29.840 What the more. 783 00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:32.519 I'm sorry, I'm scanning this and I'm like, wait, we 784 00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:34.800 can't get off this topic just yet, because I needed. 785 00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:37.639 After flushing the. 786 00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.679 Bows with water, he believed that they were further cleansed 787 00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:43.719 by administering a pint of yogurt half through the mouth 788 00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:47.800 and half through the ass. Ye okay, man, this this 789 00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:50.519 guy is all over the place. He was a physician 790 00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:55.159 at Battle Creek Sanitarium in uh, Massachusetts. 791 00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:57.760 No, it's Michigan, Michigan. 792 00:34:58.920 --> 00:34:59.119 Yeah. 793 00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:01.280 Yeah, he was out of his fucking mind. 794 00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:04.800 And so anybody who's buying Kellogg's brand cereal please understand 795 00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.760 that you are buying what is the leftovers of this 796 00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:11.000 guy's fucking insane rantings. Oh my god, but I mean, hey, 797 00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:13.760 I'm not saying that to like shit on Ketllogs. I mean, hey, listen, 798 00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:17.119 I like frosted lakes. You know, I get it. 799 00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:21.679 He put silver wire through the foreskin of young boys. 800 00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:26.320 Yeah, oh, oh my god, because silver was seen as. 801 00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:30.400 To prevent erections and to cause extreme irritation. 802 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:34.239 Yep, he would do this without anesthezua or anything. He 803 00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:35.519 would do this to young boy, but. 804 00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:36.719 It was for their own good, Raven. 805 00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:38.239 We have to keep that in mind, because he was 806 00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:40.559 an educated, learning man that wanted to keep the evil 807 00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:41.320 out of these boys. 808 00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:44.199 Clearly, sure, I only can imagine when he did to 809 00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:44.880 the females. 810 00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:46.840 Raven. 811 00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:48.920 Oh, he listen, we've been laughing a good bit here. 812 00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:50.119 You don't want to do that. 813 00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:53.280 I already know what they did to the females. Think 814 00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:55.760 you have done my share of research for anything. 815 00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:57.079 You don't know what kell Logg did. 816 00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.480 You thought the silver wire was a weird one. We're 817 00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:02.400 not going to look into that on this episode. 818 00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:04.480 I'm sure he probably stitched them shut, because that's a 819 00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:08.519 vibe that they like to do a lot. 820 00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:11.880 It was, it was worse anyway, anyway, moving moving forward, 821 00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:16.639 the guy was an absolute sociopath, and with his branding 822 00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:21.000 and his education, the Kellogg company became the thing that 823 00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:21.960 it is today. 824 00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:23.800 I feel like I need to go in a tirade 825 00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:26.199 a little bit on like TikTok and be like, we 826 00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:27.840 should cancel the fuck out of these people. 827 00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:32.760 I mean, granted they it's changed a lot as a 828 00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:34.079 company since then, but. 829 00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:36.960 I mean, but the boys and girls that he tortured 830 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.880 and did all these horrific things too, like they're now, yeah, 831 00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:41.320 but we're just gonna sidestep it. 832 00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:42.760 No, I mean we need to talk about it. 833 00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:43.199 But they do. 834 00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:45.480 Actually own so many things though their hand is in 835 00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:47.599 so much shit it's unreal, Like you. 836 00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:48.079 Couldn't keep it. 837 00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:51.880 If we wanted to, like the cereal, sure we might 838 00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:52.639 be able to get. 839 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:57.440 A box polled, but like, no, they own so many Yeah, 840 00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:00.280 and they haven't stopped eugenics because I've actually seen there 841 00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:05.320 their logo on one of the eugenic pages as one 842 00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:09.159 of the sponsors. But oh sorry, it's a genetic page. 843 00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:11.119 We don't want to talk about it being eugenics. It's 844 00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:13.920 totally eugenics, but it's yeah, they're one of the sponsors 845 00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:16.280 at the very bottom when you like actually scroll through 846 00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:18.280 all the people who are sponsoring and stuff. 847 00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:21.159 So it's a vibe interesting. 848 00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.280 So all right, So back back to the whole I'll 849 00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:26.840 call I had to look it up. I thought we 850 00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:27.320 were playing. 851 00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:30.559 I didn't like I had heard, but I've never actually 852 00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:33.840 done like a deep dive into it before. But shit, 853 00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:35.760 now we kind of mean I want to do a 854 00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:39.159 whole episode on just the big top brands and what 855 00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:39.679 they've done. 856 00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:43.840 Oh cool, God, we'd be here for a while. We 857 00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:44.800 could do a series on it. 858 00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:45.239 I'm down. 859 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:46.440 I'm totally down. 860 00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:49.320 We've been on Epstein for We're like on episode four 861 00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.320 about to be shot tomorrow, and then we're gonna shoot 862 00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:55.320 episode five on Monday or Tuesday. 863 00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:58.239 We're realistically probably going to hit episode thirty of nothing 864 00:37:58.280 --> 00:37:59.880 but Epstein before it's all sudden. 865 00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:03.679 I mean, I think ten I'm good in the files. 866 00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:05.039 I do the same shit as you, and I don't 867 00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:05.800 run it with them. 868 00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:07.880 Oh, it's just it's so much like. 869 00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:09.920 So much shit in there, and you know what the 870 00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:11.480 thing is, there's probably so much shit in there that 871 00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:13.599 people would never realize is important because of this is 872 00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:17.800 crazy shit. But you know, like business wise or companies 873 00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:20.199 and people attached to this, and that guarantee you there's 874 00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:21.360 a pluthora of that rep in the. 875 00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:24.519 There's a lot there's a lot of hidden projects, right, So, 876 00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:26.719 Like I found one that we're going to talk about 877 00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:31.079 that I haven't seen anybody else talk about yet. There 878 00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:33.480 is another one that I just saw some kid just 879 00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:36.440 found and he's like, so, I don't think anyone's talking 880 00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:38.760 about this. And I started and I actually just looked 881 00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:40.920 up the file as he was dropped it and I 882 00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:42.639 was reading into it. I was like, ooh, you might 883 00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:46.159 have actually found something pretty interesting. So people are slowly 884 00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:48.639 piecing together that one lady piece together that piece of 885 00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:52.199 art with a I don't actually I have his picture, 886 00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:55.960 but he's some politician or person and it's. 887 00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:59.400 Him doing this sign and the email is. 888 00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.440 Attached are for the girl that he had dressed up 889 00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:06.239 in snow white costume. Yeah, and he fucked multiple times. 890 00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:08.440 But in the actual picture, I just saw the breakdown 891 00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:11.760 of the picture. There's like multiple things that are inside 892 00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:14.199 this picture, this painting that was made and it was 893 00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:17.840 talking about money for Epstein for sex trafficking like on 894 00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:20.920 one of the things. And there's like a willing participant 895 00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:24.119 is around this pair of boxers that's like thrown onto 896 00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:27.039 the floor, and like she's in the background, Like there's 897 00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:29.719 like a almost like a little mirror picture in the 898 00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:32.280 background where she's laying on the bed of snow white 899 00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:36.559 and like his his face is identical to the other picture. 900 00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:38.760 And there's a whole bunch of like symbolism. 901 00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:41.960 It says a JP mortgage and it has like another 902 00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:44.320 one that says Chase Bank. And they're like money stacked 903 00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:47.559 on each other. So people are doing doing what people 904 00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:50.000 do with the internet, and they're breaking apart everything that 905 00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:50.760 they can find. 906 00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:53.280 So in this why we're probably gonna have thirty episodes 907 00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:55.599 of it every time we think we're gonna be like, 908 00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:57.719 all right, maybe we're done with Epstein. Somebody's gonna find 909 00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:00.519 some new revelation. This is so much and we have 910 00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:02.320 to talk about it. It's literally our job. 911 00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:04.199 Do you think anything will happen? I mean a few 912 00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:07.599 things seem to be. I mean Prince Andrews supposedly got arrested. 913 00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:09.679 Right, I think I think they will. I think they 914 00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:12.159 will sacrifice ten people. That's it. Maybe. 915 00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:14.480 So this is actually starting to piss a lot of 916 00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:19.039 people off, which as far as America is concerned, it's 917 00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.320 not happening. But the King of England was willing to 918 00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:25.880 put his own brother in handcuffs and strip him of 919 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:29.519 all titles and put him in jail. Meanwhile, Trump says 920 00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:32.280 that we can't prosecute anybody because it would upend too 921 00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:34.519 many things and it would be the downfall of this nation. 922 00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:36.360 It'd be some national security issues. 923 00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:38.719 Why spinning the swamp isn't it. Isn't that what he 924 00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:39.239 wanted to do. 925 00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:45.639 That's literally what he ran on twice. So I you know. 926 00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:50.960 He's in the files read I read some people deny it, 927 00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:52.719 but I mean I've seen some ship with him in that. 928 00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:55.679 Look, I still would rather him be in the position 929 00:40:55.719 --> 00:40:58.960 than Kamala Harris, and I'm still standing on that. But 930 00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:02.800 that doesn't negate the that I do now, without any 931 00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:04.639 shadow of any doubt, believe he's in the files. 932 00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:07.960 Now to what level? To what degree did he actually 933 00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:11.800 fuck him underage girls? Was he fucking prostitutes? And that's 934 00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:13.840 what it was. Was it twenty year olds or was 935 00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:15.000 it fourteen year olds? 936 00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:17.559 There's a little bit of some context needed for sure, 937 00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:20.199 but if nothing else, because and we've talked about this, 938 00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:22.480 you're from New York. At the end of the day, 939 00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:25.920 Trump is a New York City businessman. He's a grease ball. 940 00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:29.239 He does deals with shady people with mafia ties. With 941 00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:32.559 all that, that's how this goes. So push come to shove. 942 00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:35.679 He's not some statesman. He's a greaseball businessman from New 943 00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:38.480 York City. And if you're at that level of oh, 944 00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:42.079 I'm a multi billionaire, you knew Jeff. Jeff was the 945 00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:45.199 money laundering king of the earth, well of that caliber 946 00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:49.400 of individual anyway. So absolutely he knew Jeff. And to 947 00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:51.679 what level was their affiliation. I don't think it was 948 00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:54.679 just money. I think it was women as well. And 949 00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:57.039 I can't say with one hundred percent certainty if it 950 00:41:57.119 --> 00:41:59.119 was or wasn't young girls, but I will say it 951 00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:00.679 wouldn't shock me way or another. 952 00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:03.920 Honestly, he's mentioned so you got to cut these in 953 00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:06.639 half because there's so many duplicates. By the way, so 954 00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:09.679 when the web when that guy, I think it's Ian 955 00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:10.960 that I don't know who did it. 956 00:42:11.639 --> 00:42:13.920 Ian, Yeah, he did the web, Carol. 957 00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:16.960 Yeah, So that they dropped it down to one point 958 00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:19.400 five million. So when they took them all and they 959 00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:21.400 condensed them and so they stopped, they took out all 960 00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:23.840 the dupl kits and stuff. That's how what they got 961 00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:26.280 it down to. So it says Trump is in there 962 00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:28.199 five two and forty times. 963 00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:32.880 So now how much of that stealings? How much of 964 00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:34.800 that is him on flight logs? Because I mean, hell, 965 00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:36.920 we even looked up a flight log and. 966 00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:39.639 Well, so this is like this is just Trump getting 967 00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:43.440 RNC bounce, and like this is just some things are 968 00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:44.440 now I ask. 969 00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:46.400 Some of it is his name being mentioned in an 970 00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:48.320 email from person A to person. 971 00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:49.360 Being about Trump. 972 00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:50.199 He's not even in it. 973 00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.760 Well like Allan Woody Ellen goes off on a ti 974 00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:56.079 rate about how he's a narcissistic psychopath and an email 975 00:42:56.360 --> 00:42:58.280 I believe Jeffrey into another person. 976 00:42:59.800 --> 00:42:59.880 There. 977 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:02.559 There's a lot of emails with his name that I've read. 978 00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:04.960 I haven't actually gone through the Trump thing because I've 979 00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:06.719 been honestly in eugenics world. 980 00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:10.039 That's where I've been at. But Trump has been Uh. 981 00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:14.199 The ones that I have seen, they're from other conversations 982 00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:19.000 that involved like food related things or talking about finances 983 00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:21.840 and stuff, and then they would mention Trump in super 984 00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:24.360 negative way. They would just be like pretty much fuck 985 00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:26.800 Trump every which way to Sunday and they would be 986 00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:31.119 talking about him in passing. I haven't actually looked into 987 00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:33.719 all of them. I'm sure there's I don't know if 988 00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:37.480 anyone's actually said that he's corresponded with him or not. 989 00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:41.360 According to all the things he broke ties quote unquote 990 00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:44.760 with him in four there's I find this highly unlikely. 991 00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:48.519 I don't I don't know s I think either way, 992 00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:51.239 Trump is just as terrible as the rest of them. 993 00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:53.199 Yeah, so for sure. 994 00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:56.199 But I mean, when whatever America said for years and 995 00:43:56.280 --> 00:43:59.159 years we need to get a businessman in the presidency 996 00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:01.039 because they'll run this country the way it needs to 997 00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:01.920 be run by bup up. 998 00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:04.400 We got exactly what we asked for. But here's the deal. 999 00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:06.960 When you get to that top tier of business moguls 1000 00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:10.400 and things, they all run in a certain circle and 1001 00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:12.840 all roads lead back to some sort of a satanic 1002 00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:14.000 cabala pedophiles. 1003 00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:16.000 I don't like it any more than anybody else does, 1004 00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:17.599 to be honest, But I mean here we also think 1005 00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:18.320 the people. 1006 00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:21.000 I mean, I feel like he's an intertangable. 1007 00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:22.639 Dialogue where my lizard people share. 1008 00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:27.760 But all right, So the question I had for you 1009 00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:30.440 with your background in Oteo and you got out, you 1010 00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:31.880 said years and years back, right. 1011 00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:34.719 Oh yeah, that was probably gone by. I was, yeah, 1012 00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:35.840 let's around COVID. 1013 00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:38.719 Okay, okay, And you said you were associated with them 1014 00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:40.920 for you said five years, six and seven. 1015 00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:46.400 Now, I've heard. 1016 00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:48.760 Rumors and stories from people that say that when you 1017 00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:53.039 get to the actual tippy top, that you basically get 1018 00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:55.239 told you can choose a certain path you want to 1019 00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:58.840 go down, whether that be of the vampiric route, the 1020 00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:02.760 shape shifter route, or of the uh basically continuing the 1021 00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:04.960 magi role and want to become like a witch or 1022 00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:08.079 a warlock, but like actual, not just you know, doing 1023 00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:11.079 some fun practical magically. You're doing some actual shit here. 1024 00:45:11.559 --> 00:45:13.400 Did you hear anything about that in your time? 1025 00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:17.400 Not in the OTO? 1026 00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:20.119 That sounds maybe something a little bit more like the 1027 00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:23.639 Church of Satan God, like more of like a. 1028 00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:26.800 Now you don't mean Levey Satanism because that's just edgy. 1029 00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:27.960 Oh no, that's what I told. 1030 00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:30.639 Yeah, because I think he I think there was a 1031 00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:35.239 werewolf order that was inside that in that one. 1032 00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:35.960 Yeah. 1033 00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:39.039 Remember remember when his daughter I forgot his daughter's name. 1034 00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:41.480 She was like kind of like on talk shows and 1035 00:45:41.519 --> 00:45:43.519 people knew who she was, and she was with her 1036 00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:44.719 husband or boyfriend. 1037 00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:46.239 It looks a lot like Taylor Swift. 1038 00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:48.199 Yeah, yeah, he was. 1039 00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:50.719 He if you listen to him, he says he was 1040 00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:52.559 in the Church of Satan or then eventually went over 1041 00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:54.840 to the Temple of set But he mentions that he wasn't 1042 00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:56.800 like this well wolf order of it. 1043 00:45:57.719 --> 00:46:01.840 So, and I have heard of like vamp I've heard 1044 00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:04.519 of that from Will. Will Schnoblan. I think that's some 1045 00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:05.760 vampire cult. 1046 00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:09.199 But with the OTO, I can't From the people that 1047 00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:13.960 I knew and from what I was experienced shown there, 1048 00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:17.320 I have never heard of any of that. I wish 1049 00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:19.159 I could. I mean, it'd be silly and pretty funny 1050 00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:19.719 to talk about. 1051 00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:22.119 Now, another question. You put up a post. 1052 00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:25.000 This might have been it might have been been two 1053 00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:27.920 years ago, and you were talking. I think you were 1054 00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:31.000 speaking Egyptian and you were doing it to. 1055 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:31.599 Make a point. 1056 00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:34.679 You were saying it basically, if you can't understand what 1057 00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:36.159 I'm saying, that you don't know what the fuck you're 1058 00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:37.480 talking about about magic. 1059 00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:40.039 Oh, probably about three years Oh. 1060 00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:42.360 I remember we had just had on the show and 1061 00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:44.800 that I see this, and me and Jonathan got into 1062 00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:46.960 it because I am the type of person that believes 1063 00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:49.280 that actual magic has to be done the correct way. 1064 00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:53.559 You're not going to speak you know, Brooklyn style. 1065 00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:57.760 English, and uh, the magical incantation is gonna work because 1066 00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.199 it's about intent. I disagree with that. I think things 1067 00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:03.000 have to be done in a very structured, regimental way. 1068 00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:04.800 You have to speak it in the proper language, with 1069 00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:07.719 the proper inflections. And I'm not the only one to 1070 00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:12.480 say this hell, true alchemy, according to Mary the Jewish 1071 00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:15.639 had to be performed in Hebrew. It had to be 1072 00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:19.679 performed during a certain month. Otherwise it's not real alchemy. Right, 1073 00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:24.639 So all of this to be said, what, oh, yeah, 1074 00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:26.599 that's where we get distillation from. 1075 00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:28.760 I guess my biggest thing with that is like how 1076 00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:33.000 speech changes between you know, pretty much like the monkey chain, 1077 00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:36.199 where speech changes, and like even though if it's written down, 1078 00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.840 depending if it's been rewritten, depending on who it's passed through, 1079 00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:42.079 depending on how it's taught, depending on what type of 1080 00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:44.960 dial like that person is that's teaching you, depending on 1081 00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:48.639 what generation you're talking about, Like, speech is continuously changing, 1082 00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:51.159 and we don't know what it sounded like a thousand 1083 00:47:51.239 --> 00:47:52.840 years ago, five hundred years ago. 1084 00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:55.800 There's only two languages on Earth where we actually. 1085 00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:58.599 Do but we don't actually know what it sounds like. 1086 00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:02.400 We have no actual recoursing of what these people sounded like. 1087 00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:03.719 Okay, that's fair. 1088 00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:05.039 So even though that. 1089 00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:07.920 You've had oral translations passed down and passed down and 1090 00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:10.559 passed down and passed down, there still is going to 1091 00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:14.760 be a slight dialect difference per person every single time 1092 00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:17.000 that you change it because we could be talking the 1093 00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:20.320 exact same way, but I will hear a slight change 1094 00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:24.039 versus you, and that's how that's how language works. 1095 00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:26.519 Is there a site Italian? 1096 00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:27.599 Yeah, that's fair. 1097 00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:30.159 But we're also talking about let's let's say it's an 1098 00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:33.519 incantation that is has to be pronounced in this certain 1099 00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:37.440 way this person reads into. If I'm the person teaching you, 1100 00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:39.320 I read it this way, I teach you how to 1101 00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:41.679 say the words the right way. You have to say 1102 00:48:41.679 --> 00:48:43.719 it the right way or it will not work. I 1103 00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:45.960 bet you'll like commit that to memory and make sure 1104 00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:47.480 that it gets passed down the right way to the 1105 00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:47.960 next person. 1106 00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:50.440 I actually agree with Jonathan. I'm not gonna lie. 1107 00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:50.920 I think it is. 1108 00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:55.039 I think it's more along the lines of intent. I 1109 00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:55.519 think there is. 1110 00:48:55.840 --> 00:49:00.159 Oh No, I think there is. 1111 00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:03.280 I think there needs to be probably a way that 1112 00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:05.320 you have to do it, and I think that there 1113 00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:07.199 needs to be you need to be as close to 1114 00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:10.079 translation as possible. But I think the intent behind it, 1115 00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:13.239 as well as being close to whatever it is that 1116 00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:16.199 you're trying to read and perform, needs to be one 1117 00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:17.360 in like one and the same. 1118 00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:20.559 I think there's both. Both people are right in this instance. 1119 00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:21.519 But hear me out. 1120 00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:24.559 So there is aside from dead languages, languages that are 1121 00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:25.519 still spoken today. 1122 00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:27.719 Is like a jew language, right, hold on, hold on, 1123 00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:28.480 if we're. 1124 00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.679 Going to get hold on rafel Dam. 1125 00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:36.039 There is technically speaking four languages that have been untouched 1126 00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:38.639 from then to now. Two of these are dead languages, 1127 00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:41.639 and two of them are still spoken today. Okay, Latin 1128 00:49:41.960 --> 00:49:44.639 the Roman language. Now, granted, the Latin that we're talking 1129 00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:46.920 about when you're thinking of Europeans that we're learning Latin 1130 00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:49.239 is different than what the Romans are speaking, but you 1131 00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:52.519 have language experts that can actually go back and read 1132 00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:55.159 the original Latin text in Roman and they can speak 1133 00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:56.199 with the proper inflection. 1134 00:49:56.719 --> 00:49:59.280 Greek is another one. They can still speak it. 1135 00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:02.639 It's a dead langugeguage, but ancient Greek or Konai or 1136 00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:06.039 kone Greek excuse me is something you can still learn today. 1137 00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:08.239 And if there was an incantation in that language, you 1138 00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:09.960 could still learn how to properly say it. 1139 00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:10.760 Now. 1140 00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:13.480 The other two that are still alive today would be 1141 00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:18.760 Coptic Egyptian, because they do know that the Coptic Egyptian 1142 00:50:18.840 --> 00:50:22.000 language is the absolute closest to what the pharaohs of 1143 00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:24.960 ancient Egypt once spoke and they have a direct chain 1144 00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:28.679 of custody to make that claim. And then Hebrew, which 1145 00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:32.440 that language has not changed in three thousand years. So 1146 00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:38.400 my question, whenever you were speaking that Egyptian incantation, right, 1147 00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:40.800 if I remember correctly, it was like a prayer to 1148 00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:41.920 a sun god or something. 1149 00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:44.400 It wasn't even like an incantation. It was basically like. 1150 00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:47.480 Saying, may the Sun God give you a good day 1151 00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:48.800 today or something along these lines. 1152 00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:49.960 Yeah, it was some super saying. 1153 00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:51.480 So though it might have been like the story Ruby, 1154 00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:52.960 a part of it, I might have said that was 1155 00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:54.119 like in Greek or some shit. 1156 00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:55.760 Yeah, I know what you're talking about. 1157 00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:57.880 But that when you were learning this, you learned this 1158 00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:00.320 through OTO, correct uh. 1159 00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:03.320 I learned it through Alice to Crowley's books. But yeah, 1160 00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:05.920 it's stuff that would be done at the OT. That's 1161 00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:08.159 one thing. The OTO really doesn't teach you anything unless 1162 00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:10.400 maybe you go there and watch what people do. They 1163 00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:12.760 kind of just tell you like, oh, these are suggested readings. 1164 00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:15.599 But yeah, yes, that would be something that you would 1165 00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:18.239 learn through Alista Crowley or through the rituals that are 1166 00:51:18.239 --> 00:51:21.079 normally performed or suggested to be performed in the in 1167 00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:21.639 the oto. 1168 00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:24.360 Okay, so yeah, I kind of answered my question. 1169 00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:26.599 Then, Yeah, I'm just trying to like it because like 1170 00:51:26.599 --> 00:51:28.679 it's different like the Golden Normal. Actually, like you'll get 1171 00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:30.719 like a mentor and you'll actually have to be like 1172 00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:32.719 like don't start like test you. 1173 00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:34.800 Yeah, this place like you know you kind of just 1174 00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:35.400 read this. 1175 00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:38.440 Yeah, it's like it's just a hangout club. 1176 00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:42.280 One thing I will say, I want to you know, 1177 00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:46.880 with Jacob, is that uh like for me, especially like 1178 00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:50.719 the star Ruby, if I was going to do that seriously, 1179 00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:54.599 I would make sure I'm trying to pronounce everything correctly. 1180 00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:55.239 Uh. 1181 00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:58.280 But like in even in the less abanishing ritual of 1182 00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:03.360 the pentagram. First that's basically done in Hebrew because you're 1183 00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:05.599 doing the capitalistic cross and then like and then part 1184 00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:09.039 of it's English, but like it's like kind of using both. 1185 00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:12.320 But when you face the directions, at least in the 1186 00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:15.440 way that Alison Crowley puts it in Libra, oh, he even 1187 00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:18.159 tells you that you're going to have to vibrate whatever 1188 00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:21.559 God name's at each corner, you know, each direction, to 1189 00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:26.719 like literally vibrate that to exhaustion, you know, like I 1190 00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:29.760 couldn't you know, necessarily say what that's for. But I 1191 00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:33.320 also do know that there's times where things are chants, 1192 00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:37.079 a certain sounds just to create a certain frequency is 1193 00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:40.679 going on, so you know, when you're in a ritual. 1194 00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:45.320 I do think that saying these words as best as 1195 00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:47.119 you kind is very important. 1196 00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:50.199 Right, at least the ones that I'm I am used 1197 00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:52.320 to doing. I would suggest that, and. 1198 00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:56.000 I mean, maybe I have a a skewed vision of 1199 00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:59.280 what this is, but it seems very similar to chemistry 1200 00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:02.679 of me right, Like, yeah, you can, you can guesstimate 1201 00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:04.239 and you might get the right thing. 1202 00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:06.280 However, there is a math to it. 1203 00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:09.320 There is an exact amount that has to be done, 1204 00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:11.880 and this thing heated to this temperature, and then when 1205 00:53:11.880 --> 00:53:13.880 that happens, you mix this in and like there's a 1206 00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:17.320 there's an actual recipe to get the result that you're after. 1207 00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:20.199 I feel like if we're talking about things of the 1208 00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:23.039 magic with a k realm, it is the same thing. 1209 00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:28.360 I think the first was an alchemist actually, right, oh, 1210 00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:28.760 I said. 1211 00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:31.159 I think the biggest thing though with the argument with 1212 00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:35.559 Jonathan is the intent is that I do agree on 1213 00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:39.000 both parts is that there is a recipe for it, 1214 00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:42.519 but also you can only get as close to it 1215 00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:44.920 as possible. You're not going to be able to sound 1216 00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:48.360 exactly like what the way it was written, Like nine 1217 00:53:48.400 --> 00:53:51.519 times out of ten, you're going to somehow mistranslate it, 1218 00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:54.840 at least even with an inflection difference. I mean, how 1219 00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:57.239 many times have Royce talked to us about the same 1220 00:53:57.280 --> 00:54:00.320 word over and over again? And we've we've practiced with him, 1221 00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:04.840 and like, even if I barely speak American English, but 1222 00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:08.599 most people that are practicing these things don't. This is 1223 00:54:08.639 --> 00:54:12.719 not their first language, so they're getting close to it 1224 00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:16.559 as possible. And then their intention behind it is they're 1225 00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:20.000 putting their energy and their vibration, their intentions into wanting 1226 00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:23.280 to have this happen. So it's like pushing it forward. 1227 00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:25.519 At least that's my interpretation of it. 1228 00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:29.679 To quote Hermione Granger, it's Levo Saw, not Leo Sa. 1229 00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:31.400 Did you really sound like her right now? 1230 00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:32.360 I'm being serious? 1231 00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:33.119 You do? 1232 00:54:33.400 --> 00:54:35.679 I think that that actually matters here, And like intention 1233 00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:37.559 goes to a certain level, and I agree with that. 1234 00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:42.320 But if I am mixing sodium and chloride, there's I 1235 00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:44.599 can put all the intention I want into make in 1236 00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:45.039 that gold. 1237 00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:48.000 I'm going to get salt. It doesn't how much you want, 1238 00:54:48.039 --> 00:54:49.320 it doesn't really matter. 1239 00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:52.679 Yeah, but you're not. This is not full chemistry though. 1240 00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:56.039 This is you're messing with other forces besides a black 1241 00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:58.840 and white This is that magical area that you don't 1242 00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:00.519 like to talk about with the G area. 1243 00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:03.039 I think magic is black and white too, to be honest, 1244 00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:04.519 I don't think there's much gray in it. 1245 00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:08.000 I think there is definitely a ray of gray. I 1246 00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:08.719 think that there is. 1247 00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:11.440 I think people mess up and they get other things 1248 00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:14.159 that they don't want, or they're looking for something and 1249 00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:16.920 they end up with something else. But I do believe 1250 00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:19.440 that there's not there. They're not going to go out 1251 00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:21.599 and find the exact translation. They're going to hear it 1252 00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:22.920 and be automatically. 1253 00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:26.159 There's people years to get one spell right. 1254 00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:28.360 I don't know. 1255 00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:31.159 I mean if you're if you find a magical grim 1256 00:55:31.159 --> 00:55:33.280 war and you immediately get every spell right, then I 1257 00:55:33.400 --> 00:55:35.079 question a lot of things about you. 1258 00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:40.960 Right Yeah, you're like, God, damn, I gotta download somewhere 1259 00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:44.360 basically wake up and just somehow can read everything. It's like, hmm, 1260 00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:48.440 maybe not right now. 1261 00:55:48.599 --> 00:55:48.840 Ship. 1262 00:55:50.599 --> 00:55:53.199 So all right, now to the questions I wanted to 1263 00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:57.039 ask you. As far as the Epstein conversation goes the 1264 00:55:57.079 --> 00:55:59.719 temple on his island. You've seen the pictures, have you not? 1265 00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:00.880 Yeah? 1266 00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:05.760 Did any of that look magical or oto or a 1267 00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:06.880 cult to you? 1268 00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:08.840 Or do you think that that was just the look? 1269 00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:10.719 No, I would say that was a cult. 1270 00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:13.079 I would even question like the dome on top of 1271 00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:15.079 the square, you know, the circle in the square. Ye, 1272 00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:19.679 the colors, I'm sure the colors were for something, even 1273 00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:20.800 the white in the blue. 1274 00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:22.960 See I've always. 1275 00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:25.639 Wanted this, even with Hitler, because I do believe that, 1276 00:56:25.679 --> 00:56:27.159 I mean, it was a total occult war. 1277 00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:27.880 Oh for sure. 1278 00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:32.480 The right pillar, which in my opinion, would go with 1279 00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:37.119 a lot more of like explosive energy war death kind 1280 00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:39.320 of like the beast, but like an untamed just like 1281 00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:40.079 you know, chaos. 1282 00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:46.079 The bottom the top of that sphere, the top of 1283 00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:46.679 the right. 1284 00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:49.960 Pillow would be blue, and that right pillar would also 1285 00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:52.880 be white. So like you know, even the red, the 1286 00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:54.559 blue and the white, Like I do wonder like is 1287 00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:59.159 that representation of you know, cobbolistic colors? Long story short, 1288 00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:00.800 you know what I'm saying. I wondered you know that 1289 00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:02.639 I had even something to do with Hitler picking the 1290 00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:03.280 blue eyes. 1291 00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:05.719 I think you might be onto something here. 1292 00:57:06.199 --> 00:57:08.159 We had a guest on the show years and years 1293 00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:11.880 back who was talking about blue side freemasonry, which is 1294 00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:13.840 whenever you look at a Masonic logo and it's got 1295 00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:17.159 the blue background right, and typically you have red lodges 1296 00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:18.880 and blue lodges, and you'll have some of the claim 1297 00:57:18.920 --> 00:57:21.000 that they're a purple lodge, and that usually just means 1298 00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:25.199 regular freemasonry, knights templar masonry, and then the purple might 1299 00:57:25.239 --> 00:57:27.079 be some sort of a crossover between them, but that's 1300 00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:29.639 no official Purple lodge is more like. 1301 00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:31.639 A nickname associated. But you do have red lodges and 1302 00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:32.280 blue lodges. 1303 00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:36.159 Now, when I was stationed in DC, I saw one 1304 00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:39.800 white side free mason logo and I asked him what 1305 00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:43.159 this was. He was from Europe. They don't offer white 1306 00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:46.039 side free masonry in America. That is only offered in 1307 00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:49.920 very very select circles in Europe. Because blue side free 1308 00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:52.880 masonry goes to thirty three degrees. White side goes three 1309 00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:56.239 hundred and sixty degrees. Oh, and they say that when 1310 00:57:56.239 --> 00:57:59.000 you're getting into that side, you're getting the entire color spectrum, 1311 00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:02.639 which is they're talking about all of the esoteric knowledge. 1312 00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:04.559 And all Yeah, the hero's journey end up coming. 1313 00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:06.239 Back exactly exactly. 1314 00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:09.159 So when we're talking about the White and Blue as 1315 00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:11.599 far as hit and I'm not saying this was clearly Masonic, 1316 00:58:11.679 --> 00:58:13.800 but I do agree with you that it was cabalistic 1317 00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:14.639 one percent. 1318 00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:15.880 And I do. 1319 00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:19.800 Yeah, it's so like with a not a Jesus with Epstein, 1320 00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:24.119 maybe is el Epstein? Like I think there was even 1321 00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:26.599 like a gold dome, and it's like that's gonna get 1322 00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:29.159 to tipper Red possibly or the sun. Its just I 1323 00:58:29.199 --> 00:58:31.760 definitely think that whole thing was a cult symbolism to 1324 00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:36.800 some extent, that would be the sun, and that would 1325 00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:39.239 be the middle sphere of the cabalistic tree of life. 1326 00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:43.840 Got you? Okay, okay, A bunch. 1327 00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:45.880 Of stuff in his mansion too. I have you already 1328 00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:49.039 seen the videos and photos of his mansion. 1329 00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:50.719 Yeah, he had a bunch. 1330 00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:54.039 There's a couple of emails where he does talk about 1331 00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:57.039 Jamatra and he suggests a website to somebody for Jamatra. 1332 00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:01.360 Doubt it. You You brought up sound, right, So he 1333 00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:02.000 was obsessed. 1334 00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:05.960 He actually had like four scientists that were their entire 1335 00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:07.239 thing was based on sound. 1336 00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:10.239 He actually had a couple of composers as well, that he. 1337 00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:13.960 Worked with trying to find different frequencies to do different 1338 00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:14.920 things with people. 1339 00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:18.159 Oh, there's a whole bunch of that works. 1340 00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:19.360 That works. 1341 00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:22.079 There's even like stuff that I have been about to 1342 00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:23.519 start recording souit for myself. 1343 00:59:23.559 --> 00:59:25.360 I do like solos. I try to release a solo 1344 00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:26.280 show every week. 1345 00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:28.960 And that'd be even covering like certain areas that were 1346 00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:33.920 like definitely my opinion, the structures were made specifically to 1347 00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:38.800 amplify certain chants or certain tones of frequencies. So it 1348 00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:41.400 should be pretty interesting to see that. I mean, there's 1349 00:59:41.599 --> 00:59:44.199 academic proof behind it and all that scientific proof, like 1350 00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:47.880 you know, like I'm like, it's actually gonna be heavily. 1351 00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:52.559 Heavily Like there's a lot about that. Yeah, I've actually 1352 00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:55.480 looked into it. A guy I knew years and years ago. 1353 00:59:55.639 --> 00:59:57.679 People always thought he was really crazy. He would talk 1354 00:59:57.719 --> 01:00:01.320 all the time about how the hurts change your frequencies 1355 01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:02.800 and stuff like that. I mean, but if you look 1356 01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:05.679 into sound healing and you do the sound bowls and 1357 01:00:05.719 --> 01:00:08.760 things like that, and then you look on actually YouTube 1358 01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:11.000 has a ton of them. You can look up any 1359 01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:15.199 type of say you want, like an anxiety cleansing hurts levels, 1360 01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:17.440 and you can like listen to the different hurts levels. 1361 01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:20.760 I mean, but that kind of goes along with Matt Rife. 1362 01:00:20.880 --> 01:00:23.760 Yeah, because his was all about different frequencies as well, 1363 01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:24.280 And so. 1364 01:00:24.360 --> 01:00:26.039 I hate that his company had to get shut down 1365 01:00:26.039 --> 01:00:28.360 because he got fucked over by his cousin in the office. 1366 01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:29.280 It's ridiculous. 1367 01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:32.679 Oh really, dude, she stole like close to a half 1368 01:00:32.679 --> 01:00:35.000 a million dollars from him, and he had to get 1369 01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:35.880 the FBI involved. 1370 01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:36.559 It's a whole thing. 1371 01:00:36.679 --> 01:00:40.599 So real Rife Technologies is down as of this moment, 1372 01:00:40.599 --> 01:00:42.559 but hopefully he gets back up and running. But to 1373 01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:46.000 your point, yeah, there's it was all about sound frequency healing, 1374 01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:48.679 which I fully agree with, to be honest with you, 1375 01:00:48.719 --> 01:00:48.960 I have. 1376 01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:52.519 There's a lot of knowledge about frequency healing on a 1377 01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:57.840 MOLECAO level, and so it's interesting that how obsessed Epstein 1378 01:00:58.079 --> 01:00:59.159 was with just that. 1379 01:00:59.159 --> 01:00:59.760 Portion of it. 1380 01:00:59.800 --> 01:01:01.639 And there's a lot He did a lot of different things, 1381 01:01:01.679 --> 01:01:04.400 but to bring up sound and then talk about magic 1382 01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:07.519 and things like that, he was quite obsessed with talking 1383 01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:10.119 about these things and like reading this different stuff and 1384 01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:12.880 getting with these people. It was all about just like 1385 01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:16.119 everything that involves being a human. He wanted to be 1386 01:01:16.199 --> 01:01:16.800 a part of. 1387 01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:20.199 In my opinion, him being interested in that stuff is 1388 01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:25.000 more proof of him being an occultist who probably has 1389 01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:27.679 a pretty decent understanding, believe it or not. Not trying 1390 01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:29.639 to give the guy too much credit. He might have 1391 01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:32.000 actually had like half a clue of what's going on, 1392 01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:33.719 and that's why he was interested in shit like that. 1393 01:01:33.800 --> 01:01:36.480 Apparently there's a picture that was redacted that some people 1394 01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:39.559 were able to pull up, and it was just one 1395 01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:41.159 of those random stupid pictures of. 1396 01:01:41.079 --> 01:01:43.559 His house or whatever. But what they were able to 1397 01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:44.679 do is they were able. 1398 01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:47.960 To zoom in onto the bookshelves, and apparently he had 1399 01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:52.719 all different types of books, including like history, occult stuff. 1400 01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:56.159 He had mathematics, he had genes, he had but he 1401 01:01:56.239 --> 01:01:58.679 had a cult like things mixed into it. 1402 01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:01.119 And there is a couple of symbols. 1403 01:02:01.159 --> 01:02:05.440 There's other pictures we're in the background written on chalkboards 1404 01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:07.920 behind him were like random little bitty. 1405 01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:09.679 Occult symbols and stuff. 1406 01:02:09.719 --> 01:02:13.679 So I fully believe that there's a lot more to 1407 01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:16.760 him than what we understand. I think that we we'd 1408 01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:19.159 have to look at all the photos and things of 1409 01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:22.440 him and to be able to dissect what was really 1410 01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:24.440 going on, because that's where people have been pulling it. 1411 01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:26.840 I've been watching other people that have like way better 1412 01:02:26.920 --> 01:02:29.440 understanding of technology than I do pull stuff. 1413 01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:32.719 So yeah, now I just real quick. 1414 01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:35.079 I'll even say, like just on my own show, including 1415 01:02:35.119 --> 01:02:37.440 me and other people that are on the show, if 1416 01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:40.000 people went over there, unless you'd be surprised how much 1417 01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:43.360 science we actually get into when we're talking about occultism. Yeah, 1418 01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:48.320 that is very much. I think a thing absolutely oult science. 1419 01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:52.119 I mean that is back in those days, science was, 1420 01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:55.800 I mean because they used the ether or the spirit 1421 01:02:56.039 --> 01:03:00.679 to kind of quantify the unquantifiable to them at the time. 1422 01:03:01.519 --> 01:03:04.519 Think of it like an algebraic equation saw for X. 1423 01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:07.639 They know that two plus x equals five. They don't 1424 01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:09.679 know what X is just yet, but they know that 1425 01:03:09.719 --> 01:03:12.800 this equation works. So until they figure out what it is, 1426 01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:15.400 it's going to stay as X. Or in the ancient 1427 01:03:15.480 --> 01:03:17.960 spirit realm or al chemical realm, it would just kind 1428 01:03:17.960 --> 01:03:20.880 of be called ether. Maybe there was something spiritual to it, 1429 01:03:21.239 --> 01:03:23.280 maybe it was just that unknown factor until they have 1430 01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:25.960 the tech to you know, quantify that. But I mean 1431 01:03:26.159 --> 01:03:28.400 both work. Both could have just been seen as the 1432 01:03:28.400 --> 01:03:31.159 same thing. It's like it's like Schrodinger's cat. It could 1433 01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:33.280 be thought of and as both until you open the 1434 01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:40.000 fucking box, you know. But so with that Epstein, the occultism, 1435 01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:43.199 I agree with you one hundred percent. Now I also 1436 01:03:43.280 --> 01:03:45.400 think that what he was doing to these young girls 1437 01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:47.760 was of a very occult nature. 1438 01:03:48.159 --> 01:03:49.239 What is your take on this? 1439 01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:51.480 Ah, you know that, I can tell you. I don't 1440 01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:54.519 even exactly not sure exactly what you're getting got with it. 1441 01:03:55.079 --> 01:03:57.400 I'm not saying that every occultist rapes children. I'm not 1442 01:03:57.440 --> 01:03:58.559 saying oh no, no, no. 1443 01:03:58.400 --> 01:04:01.480 No, I'm saying like I'm not I'm not exactly show 1444 01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:02.440 where you're going with this. 1445 01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:06.679 I mean, yes to wherever you're probably thinking. We had 1446 01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:08.559 a guy on the show a while back then, so 1447 01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:13.320 many different things. Ok oh you know, yeah, okay, okay, 1448 01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:14.519 what is your take on him? 1449 01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:18.639 I think he's a really yeah. I'm sorry, you're not 1450 01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:19.519 hurting my feelings, dude. 1451 01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:20.800 We had him on a couple of times and he 1452 01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:23.440 told his story, and it's a very wild story. I've 1453 01:04:23.480 --> 01:04:27.960 never heard someone claim that they themselves performed over four 1454 01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:32.199 hundred ritualistic abortions for the principle of sacrificing to Satan 1455 01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:35.320 at an Oto Temple. As loud and proud as he did, 1456 01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:38.039 and then gave people his personal cell phone number so 1457 01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:39.800 that if they wanted to call and talk to him 1458 01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:42.079 about it, he's like, please call me, I'm available twenty 1459 01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:45.320 four to seven. Now, you being a former OTO member, 1460 01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:48.360 and again you were only in there for a few years, 1461 01:04:48.519 --> 01:04:50.440 you weren't one of those top tier dogs. 1462 01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:51.719 You said you were only like at level two. 1463 01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:53.559 Right, Yeah, well. 1464 01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:55.760 See the thing, Teresa even had him on the show. 1465 01:04:55.800 --> 01:04:57.239 When I was on that, I kept my mouth shut 1466 01:04:57.239 --> 01:04:58.880 the whole time, but there was like certain shit that 1467 01:04:59.039 --> 01:05:01.599 like it was not an OTO. 1468 01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:07.480 Okay, the guys, I really don't want to get into. 1469 01:05:07.280 --> 01:05:09.920 It, man, No, yeah, we're good. 1470 01:05:10.320 --> 01:05:12.079 He's if you were to listen to the ship that 1471 01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:13.840 comes out of his mouth, and even just listen to 1472 01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:15.559 stuff that comes out of my mouth about the OTO, 1473 01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:17.440 you'd realize this guy is just kind of like throwing 1474 01:05:17.480 --> 01:05:18.800 a few words out there and really doesn't know what 1475 01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:19.760 the fuck he's talking about. 1476 01:05:20.119 --> 01:05:23.320 Fair enough, so you don't believe that anything of that 1477 01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:25.280 nature is happening, and it grants it. 1478 01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:28.400 Also, Oh no, no, I'm not denying that shit. I 1479 01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:30.039 see the reason why I was asking you. I wasn't 1480 01:05:30.079 --> 01:05:31.320 sure where you're going with that because I mean that 1481 01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:34.920 could be eugenics. Sure, I wasn't exactly sure you're getting 1482 01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:35.239 into it. 1483 01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:38.400 I think he's more or less asking if if the 1484 01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:42.599 occults groups are sacrificing children and females. 1485 01:05:44.679 --> 01:05:49.159 Soon, just like any religion or any church or any 1486 01:05:49.239 --> 01:05:52.880 temple or any Jehovah's witness or any other place, there's 1487 01:05:52.920 --> 01:05:55.199 going to be a few percentages of sick fucks doing 1488 01:05:55.239 --> 01:05:56.000 that shit somewhat. 1489 01:05:56.360 --> 01:05:57.880 Okay, So that was the other part. 1490 01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:00.960 So you've only been exposed to your one lodge of 1491 01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:03.119 the OTO, right, you didn't like travel and check out 1492 01:06:03.159 --> 01:06:04.519 other lodges around the country. 1493 01:06:04.519 --> 01:06:07.559 Well, no, I mean one other one in Salem. 1494 01:06:07.639 --> 01:06:11.840 Okay, Yeah, wait in Salem, Massachusetts. Yeah, okay. 1495 01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:14.119 But my point is though with the lodge that you saw, 1496 01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:17.840 you didn't see anything of that type of Malfeasan's going on. 1497 01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:21.280 It sounds like more like a hangout. 1498 01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:25.239 Honestly what he's describing like versus what we're thinking when 1499 01:06:25.239 --> 01:06:26.800 it comes to like e cultrit. 1500 01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:29.719 Include myself, it was a bunch of nerds. 1501 01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:30.920 I was gonna say. I was like, I was like, 1502 01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:32.320 this sounds like, honestly. 1503 01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:37.119 Like a nerdy hangout, like more advanced version of like, uh, cosplay, 1504 01:06:37.760 --> 01:06:38.840 that's what it sounds like to me. 1505 01:06:38.920 --> 01:06:42.599 But they are practicing real magic or do they think 1506 01:06:42.639 --> 01:06:43.280 they are and they're not. 1507 01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:45.800 Actually Lodge will even tell you that, at least from 1508 01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:47.880 my experience, they say the real magic happens at home 1509 01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:48.519 by yourself. 1510 01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:51.719 I mean, they definitely seem like they didn't. They weren't 1511 01:06:51.960 --> 01:06:55.239 practicing practic not like the other ones. This this does 1512 01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:58.000 seem like a group of like, hey, we did some 1513 01:06:58.039 --> 01:06:58.679 shit together. 1514 01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:02.800 Yeah, this is how like these orders. Well, Alia could 1515 01:07:02.840 --> 01:07:06.079 speak for the Oto. They have the Gnostic Mass quite often, 1516 01:07:06.119 --> 01:07:08.079 which is like their version of church, which I kind 1517 01:07:08.079 --> 01:07:11.519 of represents the man crossing the abyss. Then they'll have 1518 01:07:11.599 --> 01:07:14.360 a couple of rituals, like specifically for the Book of 1519 01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:16.360 the Law that was done in three days, they'll have 1520 01:07:16.440 --> 01:07:19.320 rituals for that, And I think the equinox and the 1521 01:07:19.360 --> 01:07:21.360 sol system. 1522 01:07:20.599 --> 01:07:23.280 Maybe one of the thing in there. That's it. 1523 01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:26.760 Besides that, it's going to be history classes possibly on 1524 01:07:26.840 --> 01:07:30.920 another occultist, it's going to be a cigil class, candle magic, 1525 01:07:32.559 --> 01:07:33.480 planetary magic. 1526 01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:36.719 So a lot of it really isn't all like the 1527 01:07:36.800 --> 01:07:38.920 ritual like now. 1528 01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:41.719 That's only for lower levels. It's only the ones that speak. 1529 01:07:41.880 --> 01:07:44.000 I mean, unless there isn't anything that's on like the 1530 01:07:44.159 --> 01:07:47.079 calendar that's like some secret calendar. I mean even people 1531 01:07:47.119 --> 01:07:51.280 or minervles can see what's like going on completely. I'm 1532 01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:55.360 sure maybe there is something maybe hidden, but uh, I 1533 01:07:55.400 --> 01:07:57.280 mean like even if there was like a fifth or 1534 01:07:57.280 --> 01:07:59.599 six degree initiation, I could see that's being done. 1535 01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:02.280 Can't go, but I'll see it on the came sure. 1536 01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:06.320 But yeah, a lot of it, honestly is like a 1537 01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:09.960 lot of classes as well, or informational things. It's not 1538 01:08:10.079 --> 01:08:11.960 always just like every time you go that you don't 1539 01:08:11.960 --> 01:08:14.480 know rituals and shit, that's that's not the case either. 1540 01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:15.480 That's fair. 1541 01:08:15.960 --> 01:08:17.359 Yeah, And I'm just saying that because I don't know 1542 01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:19.279 if a lot of people see this is the thing 1543 01:08:19.279 --> 01:08:22.960 that I've gotten into, and I don't like trying. I 1544 01:08:23.119 --> 01:08:25.279 not like coming at you guys when I say this ethice, 1545 01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:27.520 But I've said this to other people. I said, it's 1546 01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:29.760 amazing how people who've never once stepped foot in one 1547 01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:32.159 of these places seem to know everything that's going on now. 1548 01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:35.159 Right, and would be I at least had the bolt. 1549 01:08:35.840 --> 01:08:38.920 We've had the same conversation with Freemasons, right because we 1550 01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:41.680 have had so many people come on that have claimed 1551 01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:44.159 to have all this knowledge about freemasonry and what really 1552 01:08:44.199 --> 01:08:45.359 goes on behind the lodges. 1553 01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:47.399 Then you'll get we're both marines. 1554 01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:50.039 We meet so many marines that we went to Philadelphia 1555 01:08:50.039 --> 01:08:52.960 for the big you know, two fiftieth birthday celebration, met 1556 01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:56.399 a bunch of high level Masons there and I was 1557 01:08:56.439 --> 01:08:58.520 talking to them because I told my you know, conspiracy 1558 01:08:58.560 --> 01:08:59.680 podcast and we were talking. 1559 01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:02.079 They like, so, what do y'all say about the Masons? 1560 01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:04.920 Hey, I brought up you know, Alistair Crowley, and then 1561 01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:07.640 we talked about Alfred Pike and morals and dogma and 1562 01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:10.319 how the top dogs actually worship Lucifer and it's this 1563 01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:12.880 whole thing, you know, the whole jam. And he's like, 1564 01:09:13.399 --> 01:09:15.840 it's crazy how much people know when they've never stepped 1565 01:09:15.840 --> 01:09:17.600 foot in a lodge. And it's like, no, I hear you, 1566 01:09:17.640 --> 01:09:20.520 But also, are you denying that that book says these things? 1567 01:09:21.720 --> 01:09:22.920 And they didn't really answer me. 1568 01:09:22.960 --> 01:09:24.920 But that's it's not the point beside the point. I 1569 01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:25.720 hear what you're saying. 1570 01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:27.600 I don't think everybody. 1571 01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:29.840 Like me telling people what boot camp was like for you. 1572 01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:32.279 I don't know that wasn't the right. 1573 01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:33.079 Yeah, I'm sure. 1574 01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:34.439 I'm sure you'd be like, well, the fuck is this 1575 01:09:34.439 --> 01:09:36.159 guy even saying anything about that he didn't ever one 1576 01:09:36.159 --> 01:09:36.720 through boot camp? 1577 01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:37.319 Fair point. 1578 01:09:37.840 --> 01:09:40.239 I'm just keeping it real man, Like people know what's 1579 01:09:40.279 --> 01:09:42.279 going on behind those walls unless they go in there. 1580 01:09:43.159 --> 01:09:45.319 I have. 1581 01:09:46.079 --> 01:09:49.279 And a yes, it's not truth because you didn't see 1582 01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:50.039 it or experience it. 1583 01:09:51.199 --> 01:09:52.960 I more or less just take everything with a grain 1584 01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:53.279 of salt. 1585 01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:55.640 When I'm listening to other people talk about their experiences, 1586 01:09:55.680 --> 01:09:58.560 I'm just like mm hmm, Okay. I mean, hey, you 1587 01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:01.680 might know everything you're telling everything that's truthful, you might 1588 01:10:01.720 --> 01:10:04.840 be bullshitting us, Like I'm more or less and personally 1589 01:10:04.840 --> 01:10:06.720 for me, I just like to listen to people's stories. 1590 01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:09.199 And then I mean, if I decide to walk into 1591 01:10:09.239 --> 01:10:11.239 one of these places, then like, all right, I'm going 1592 01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:14.319 to experience it for myself, but I have no desire to. 1593 01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:17.159 You know, if your your group sounds more or less 1594 01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:21.279 like a honestly like a nerdy hangout, like with some 1595 01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:23.680 with some like cool history shit and like you know, 1596 01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:26.680 some stuff going on, like but you know, I think 1597 01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:30.640 everybody there's a lot of people though that plays you know, 1598 01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:33.960 have stolen valor, and that we'll walk around and say 1599 01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:35.920 that they've done all of these things and this is 1600 01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:38.920 what I know. And then you like, then people are like, oh, 1601 01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:42.279 that's that's exactly what everybody's going through. It's a nope, 1602 01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:45.399 we were in the same we were crosspaths at the 1603 01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:47.920 same time. Like we're in the same time, and our 1604 01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:51.479 experiences were completely different. So like you could be in 1605 01:10:51.560 --> 01:10:55.399 the same society, order, whatever, and your experience is vastly 1606 01:10:55.399 --> 01:10:57.039 different from the person standing next to you. 1607 01:10:57.159 --> 01:10:59.640 So and that's all I was saying, Like you went 1608 01:10:59.680 --> 01:11:01.319 to the world in New York, and you went to 1609 01:11:01.359 --> 01:11:03.600 the one in Salem. You never went to a lodge 1610 01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:04.479 in Cali. 1611 01:11:05.199 --> 01:11:07.840 Now, I don't think I don't even think it's a 1612 01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:10.319 real Like the way he words it, it's not like 1613 01:11:10.399 --> 01:11:13.159 he's I would have to hear him say it again 1614 01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:14.960 and I could exactly point out to you, but like 1615 01:11:15.159 --> 01:11:17.119 the way he even says it, I'm just like, dude, Like, 1616 01:11:18.159 --> 01:11:19.720 this isn't like an actual. 1617 01:11:20.239 --> 01:11:21.760 I don't know if anybody that would want to come 1618 01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:25.000 on and openly talk about to thousands of people. Hey, 1619 01:11:25.039 --> 01:11:30.079 by the way, I killed and sacrificed four hundred plus unborn. 1620 01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:32.159 Children need to come out and say when it's probably bullshit. 1621 01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:34.279 I don't. I don't really know a lot of people that. 1622 01:11:37.000 --> 01:11:41.000 The money well, going to see people out in the 1623 01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:45.439 streets for real, right, yeah, but real, man. You know 1624 01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:47.439 what I think is more satanic is actually making this 1625 01:11:47.479 --> 01:11:48.880 bullshit up and making money off of it. 1626 01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:51.439 I think that's I. 1627 01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:53.600 Don't know if he's actually making any money off of it. 1628 01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:55.359 I don't know if he's written any books. 1629 01:11:55.439 --> 01:11:57.159 Person. I know that he's going on this show. They've 1630 01:11:57.159 --> 01:11:58.079 donated money to him. 1631 01:11:58.119 --> 01:12:01.840 Practically we did not. I'll I'll be straight up with. 1632 01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:02.359 You, dude. 1633 01:12:02.479 --> 01:12:04.720 I've never met the man, so I have no actual 1634 01:12:04.880 --> 01:12:06.239 like opinion of this person. 1635 01:12:06.279 --> 01:12:07.680 But I'm sorry, I'm going off. 1636 01:12:07.760 --> 01:12:09.880 It's just no, just from a personal like. 1637 01:12:10.239 --> 01:12:12.720 We don't actually get opinionated on anybody but those guys. 1638 01:12:13.079 --> 01:12:15.399 Well, because he makes claims about an organization you were 1639 01:12:15.399 --> 01:12:17.119 a part of, I mean, I would expect that, you 1640 01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:18.159 know what. 1641 01:12:18.319 --> 01:12:19.680 You know, what the thing is is that when he 1642 01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:23.000 first came on, he wasn't even associating himself with the OTO. 1643 01:12:23.119 --> 01:12:25.880 That's something I've watched him progress into with his fucking 1644 01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:29.800 bullshit story. First fucking version of the Church of Satan, 1645 01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:32.840 but some other worded way because it didn't fucking exist. 1646 01:12:33.520 --> 01:12:35.279 If you could go back and listen to his on 1647 01:12:35.399 --> 01:12:38.880 Fucking Teresa's Spiritual Gangsters, there's no to Oto actually on that. 1648 01:12:39.439 --> 01:12:41.760 It's other shows. About a year later, I've heard himself 1649 01:12:41.760 --> 01:12:43.680 bringing it up. Make up your fucking minds actrily. 1650 01:12:44.319 --> 01:12:45.840 So okay with that being. 1651 01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:48.199 Said, Because it's because you're such a small. 1652 01:12:48.159 --> 01:12:51.239 Real t it's probably a big name to use now, 1653 01:12:51.279 --> 01:12:53.560 so let's say that it sounds more hip than some 1654 01:12:53.800 --> 01:12:55.640 fucking fake version of the Church of Saintan. 1655 01:12:55.720 --> 01:12:57.760 It's more obscure than the church is sating people have 1656 01:12:57.800 --> 01:12:58.800 heard of the Church of Satan. 1657 01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:01.800 The lady applying Oto. Man, it's so easy to point. 1658 01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:02.760 I'm gonna be real with you. 1659 01:13:02.800 --> 01:13:05.680 I didn't know what the Oto was until just now, 1660 01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:09.039 like as you've been explaining it. I was like, but yeah, 1661 01:13:09.359 --> 01:13:12.520 I don't know what this is. That's not gonna lie. 1662 01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:14.640 It wasn't even like the way he was wording it. It 1663 01:13:14.720 --> 01:13:16.960 wasn't even the same thing. It just had Shatan in there, 1664 01:13:16.960 --> 01:13:18.319 and I think temple of some other ship. 1665 01:13:18.439 --> 01:13:20.800 Like he said that he was a Satanic high wizard. 1666 01:13:20.920 --> 01:13:22.359 Yeah, that's another thing. 1667 01:13:22.359 --> 01:13:25.319 They don't even call themselves wizards in the fucking oto man. 1668 01:13:25.479 --> 01:13:28.079 But so all right, so if I remember correctly, was 1669 01:13:28.479 --> 01:13:29.720 he with wicked like. 1670 01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:30.399 No, no, no. 1671 01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:33.239 So he says that he got his starting oto and 1672 01:13:33.279 --> 01:13:35.279 then once he got to a certain level, he went 1673 01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:37.319 on to and I don't know if it was Church 1674 01:13:37.359 --> 01:13:40.720 of Satan or Satanic Temple or the there's so many 1675 01:13:40.720 --> 01:13:43.359 groups that call himself Satanists. Half of them are just 1676 01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:46.560 edgy gnostics. Let's be very honest. Even I'm be honest 1677 01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:48.800 with you, dude, I don't think Anton Levey was actually 1678 01:13:48.840 --> 01:13:49.439 a Satanist. 1679 01:13:49.640 --> 01:13:51.199 He said, what the most evil did? 1680 01:13:51.359 --> 01:13:52.000 Make money? 1681 01:13:52.520 --> 01:13:53.760 That's all it was, dude. 1682 01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:57.960 He was like, it was a dark, edgy anti religion. 1683 01:13:58.000 --> 01:13:59.640 He said, the most evil thing you could do was 1684 01:13:59.720 --> 01:14:02.000 jack off that you know, that was the. 1685 01:14:01.960 --> 01:14:04.119 Biggest of God's face. That she left because it was 1686 01:14:04.159 --> 01:14:04.920 a bunch of bullshit. 1687 01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:06.520 That's why she went over to the Temple of sec 1688 01:14:06.520 --> 01:14:08.239 because that was like something real, right. 1689 01:14:08.439 --> 01:14:12.239 It's anyway, So I don't know which organization Zach said 1690 01:14:12.239 --> 01:14:15.079 that he went to next, but something in the realm 1691 01:14:15.159 --> 01:14:18.479 of Satanic red right and all these things, And then 1692 01:14:18.479 --> 01:14:21.399 he got to the level of Satanic High Wizard and 1693 01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:23.600 apparently he was the one that put on a couple 1694 01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:26.119 of very famous celebrities, people that you would know. 1695 01:14:26.920 --> 01:14:28.199 Uh, he's blind now. 1696 01:14:28.600 --> 01:14:32.560 Apparently he had to sacrifice his physical health, uh to 1697 01:14:32.560 --> 01:14:34.800 attain some of the powers that he had at one point. 1698 01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:39.239 That's his admission anyway, if he's. 1699 01:14:39.079 --> 01:14:41.960 Telling the truth, he's lying about the organizations maybe to 1700 01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:45.039 cover himself, because I'm not denying that shit doesn't go on. 1701 01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:47.399 It's just the way he says in the names he 1702 01:14:47.439 --> 01:14:48.079 throws out there. 1703 01:14:48.079 --> 01:14:50.359 It's just like, dude, like you need to read a 1704 01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:53.000 little bit more about these places before you accuse them. 1705 01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:55.920 Fair Definitely a lot of I'm not denying like that 1706 01:14:55.960 --> 01:14:57.720 shit doesn't go on. For sure, that goes on. 1707 01:14:57.840 --> 01:15:00.199 Man, there's absolutely evil places that are doing whole whole 1708 01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:01.239 things to children. 1709 01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:01.920 This. 1710 01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:07.279 Yeah, because this is like in my opinion that I 1711 01:15:07.640 --> 01:15:09.520 don't know like how this works. I don't know if 1712 01:15:09.520 --> 01:15:10.439 this is part of like. 1713 01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:14.560 People opening up their own demons, even in their own head, 1714 01:15:14.560 --> 01:15:16.640 and it just fucking handcuffs them and makes them worse 1715 01:15:16.680 --> 01:15:19.239 and worse of a person. But my opinion, when it 1716 01:15:19.279 --> 01:15:23.359 comes to magic, unless the only thing you're focused on 1717 01:15:23.520 --> 01:15:25.640 is having an experience with God, everything else is going 1718 01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:26.680 to be fucking black magic. 1719 01:15:27.880 --> 01:15:29.680 Okay, you will. 1720 01:15:31.039 --> 01:15:34.479 You're kinda just fucking fuck up shit that's even written 1721 01:15:34.680 --> 01:15:37.640 to be for a good thing. You're just gonna take 1722 01:15:37.680 --> 01:15:40.479 things to extreme and have excuses to do it, and 1723 01:15:40.479 --> 01:15:42.760 it's just gonna keep getting worse and worse. I mean, 1724 01:15:42.800 --> 01:15:45.279 think if somebody wants to write a spell because they're like, 1725 01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:48.159 I want to get back up my coworker because they 1726 01:15:48.199 --> 01:15:50.560 did something to me. You're gonna design this spell and 1727 01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:52.920 do this whole fucking ritual because this person's got you 1728 01:15:52.960 --> 01:15:53.560 fucking triggered. 1729 01:15:53.560 --> 01:15:55.680 Who's the magician? Now you're fucking co worker. 1730 01:15:55.720 --> 01:15:57.600 They're rent in space in your head, and all you're 1731 01:15:57.640 --> 01:16:00.199 doing is just creating more hate. You're giving a fucking 1732 01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:02.479 image to this person. Now as you're doing the ritual 1733 01:16:02.720 --> 01:16:09.239 their name, you're actually mind fucking yourself. Yeah, you're opening 1734 01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:12.119 up more demons in your mind, so that shit eventually 1735 01:16:12.119 --> 01:16:14.239 can take you now to thinking you've got to do 1736 01:16:14.319 --> 01:16:16.760 this sick shit five years from now, when you started 1737 01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:19.560 off doing some dumb shit thinking it was cool to 1738 01:16:19.640 --> 01:16:22.720 now you're just fucking mistaking everything for just being vile. 1739 01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:25.520 Even if you're reading a Grimmaile that's supposed to be enlightening. 1740 01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:27.039 Somehow you're gonna fuck that off. 1741 01:16:27.399 --> 01:16:29.960 Yeah. Now, I asked you this a while back. 1742 01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:32.640 When it comes to at least the magic that you 1743 01:16:32.680 --> 01:16:36.079 were exposed to, right, the practical magic and all the things. Here, 1744 01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:39.800 you were saying that no matter what you are attempting 1745 01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:42.960 to achieve, no matter what you're doing, you're having to 1746 01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:45.920 give something. You're having to sacrifice something. And I don't 1747 01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:48.439 mean like sacrificing a chicken. I'm not in that roobble, 1748 01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:51.359 but essentially you have to have some sort of skin 1749 01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:54.039 in the game to get the response that you want, 1750 01:16:54.119 --> 01:16:57.000 correct So, and I even gave the example, if I 1751 01:16:57.000 --> 01:17:00.720 remember correctly, Let's say your mom has like stage four 1752 01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:03.840 cancer and you're trying to do a spell to heal her, 1753 01:17:04.119 --> 01:17:06.359 with this being an inherently good thing, and you even 1754 01:17:06.359 --> 01:17:08.359 thought about it, and you're like no, because either way 1755 01:17:08.399 --> 01:17:11.319 you slice it, you're giving something to this to make 1756 01:17:11.319 --> 01:17:13.479 it happen, and it's for your own selfish intent, So 1757 01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:15.319 it's it's gotta be inherently bad. 1758 01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:17.279 Did I get that about right? 1759 01:17:18.079 --> 01:17:18.319 Yeah? 1760 01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:20.279 Like for me, I wouldn't even do a ritual or 1761 01:17:20.279 --> 01:17:21.880 a spell for that. I just pray and as God 1762 01:17:21.880 --> 01:17:24.479 to fucking help the person. I mean, yeah, he looks 1763 01:17:24.520 --> 01:17:27.760 Besides that, I'm just again I'm opposing. I let's just 1764 01:17:27.840 --> 01:17:29.279 keep it real. I'm just gonna I would look at 1765 01:17:29.279 --> 01:17:30.960 it this way. Let's say, if it's even my own mother, 1766 01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:33.199 I don't want it to get sick and die, just 1767 01:17:33.279 --> 01:17:35.560 in my own fucking reason, selfish reasons, because I don't 1768 01:17:35.560 --> 01:17:38.640 want to lose my mother, right, So this isn't even authentic. 1769 01:17:39.239 --> 01:17:41.960 I want to maipulate the situation for me, not totally 1770 01:17:41.960 --> 01:17:44.760 for her. Again, It's just my whole point is on 1771 01:17:45.039 --> 01:17:48.800 the black magic. Unless I am trying to have an 1772 01:17:48.880 --> 01:17:52.720 experience with God, everything else, trying to control the outside 1773 01:17:52.720 --> 01:17:54.880 of me is all black magic. 1774 01:17:55.319 --> 01:17:56.880 Did you feel that way when you were with the 1775 01:17:56.920 --> 01:18:00.279 OTO or is this a more modern revelation. 1776 01:18:00.199 --> 01:18:02.840 That way when I had a magical experience and then 1777 01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:03.600 I left the OTO? 1778 01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:06.680 After that you had a magical experience and then decided 1779 01:18:06.720 --> 01:18:07.399 you were done? 1780 01:18:07.920 --> 01:18:10.479 Yeah, well, I just didn't think that that place emulated 1781 01:18:10.520 --> 01:18:12.279 what I was looking for, where I was going and 1782 01:18:12.319 --> 01:18:13.359 the experience. 1783 01:18:12.960 --> 01:18:14.079 I had got you. 1784 01:18:15.720 --> 01:18:20.119 I mean I was I was no, uh, I was 1785 01:18:21.920 --> 01:18:23.640 hold on, I was going with That's all you took 1786 01:18:23.640 --> 01:18:26.039 me over real quick. I was never going to be 1787 01:18:26.279 --> 01:18:28.720 I was never going to be a for lifer to 1788 01:18:28.760 --> 01:18:32.159 begin with. And then once I heard those stipulations, I 1789 01:18:32.279 --> 01:18:34.720 already knew like, well, now it's a dumbed tail because. 1790 01:18:34.479 --> 01:18:35.800 I'm fuck out of here. 1791 01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:39.000 And even even that after the fourth degree, the fifth 1792 01:18:39.000 --> 01:18:40.840 degree you have to be asked to go up to. 1793 01:18:41.359 --> 01:18:43.760 You can only petition to the fourth so after that 1794 01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:45.039 you had to be part of some click. 1795 01:18:45.119 --> 01:18:46.479 And I even realized I wouldn't think. 1796 01:18:46.479 --> 01:18:47.479 I didn't want to have to give a part of 1797 01:18:47.520 --> 01:18:50.600 all that, because now I would think that certain mind 1798 01:18:50.600 --> 01:18:53.840 frames or agendas this and that, you know, probably gets interesting. 1799 01:18:54.239 --> 01:18:56.880 That's another thing if you're a perfective magician at four. 1800 01:18:57.359 --> 01:19:00.680 But the fox after that, uh, you know, very interesting. 1801 01:19:01.600 --> 01:19:04.640 But yeah, I never thought I was going to stay. 1802 01:19:04.479 --> 01:19:06.760 Anyway, you know what I'm saying, Like it was never 1803 01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:08.479 going to be a career like life. 1804 01:19:08.960 --> 01:19:11.960 You say the experience, yeah, but my experience definitely after that, 1805 01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:13.079 I was like, I'm fucking out of here. 1806 01:19:13.479 --> 01:19:16.479 So you say that you're now right. 1807 01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:19.840 No, No, I would consider myself still an ocultist. 1808 01:19:20.239 --> 01:19:22.520 But you are also using the term god a lot, 1809 01:19:22.760 --> 01:19:25.359 so yeah, I mean, you do identify as a there 1810 01:19:25.439 --> 01:19:28.399 is a creator, oh yeah, okay, okay. 1811 01:19:28.239 --> 01:19:30.720 A single creator or like multiple creators. 1812 01:19:30.800 --> 01:19:32.800 I think all those other things are fucking fake. 1813 01:19:33.560 --> 01:19:36.640 So you think there is one entity that is the creator. 1814 01:19:36.680 --> 01:19:39.399 And everything else is like this, it's a timeline between 1815 01:19:39.399 --> 01:19:41.560 me and my soul as Oh god, it'd be so 1816 01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:44.119 hard to explain it, dull archetypes for just I think 1817 01:19:44.119 --> 01:19:46.239 different things, none of them are actually real. That's even 1818 01:19:46.279 --> 01:19:47.600 a thing I say on my own show. I don't 1819 01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:50.680 believe in these gods, actually don't. So the only I 1820 01:19:50.720 --> 01:19:52.680 believe in is the one, the source. 1821 01:19:52.760 --> 01:19:53.159 Everything. 1822 01:19:53.239 --> 01:19:56.560 Everything after that is just some made up fairy tale 1823 01:19:56.560 --> 01:19:58.880 to try to explain something very hard to understand. 1824 01:19:59.399 --> 01:20:00.520 So which god? 1825 01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:02.760 And I understand that you don't get down with like religion, 1826 01:20:03.119 --> 01:20:04.920 But if you had to point out a religion that 1827 01:20:05.279 --> 01:20:08.359 deity is the closest to what you deem to be 1828 01:20:08.399 --> 01:20:10.119 the creator, who's got it the closest? 1829 01:20:11.319 --> 01:20:12.880 I mean, I was, just to be honest, I was 1830 01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:16.039 growing up to be like Christian and Catholic anyway, So 1831 01:20:16.039 --> 01:20:19.399 I mean heavily that that's side regardless. 1832 01:20:19.560 --> 01:20:22.000 So the Abrahamic God do you think is probably close 1833 01:20:22.039 --> 01:20:23.720 to Yeah? 1834 01:20:23.800 --> 01:20:27.800 Well, I can also understand, like just the way I 1835 01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:32.600 look at Moses and Jesus too. They interested me. 1836 01:20:33.920 --> 01:20:36.039 You should read the book that we're reading for the Cult, 1837 01:20:36.479 --> 01:20:37.720 How Jesus Became God. 1838 01:20:38.479 --> 01:20:41.439 You might like it. It's an interesting book, got Die. 1839 01:20:41.680 --> 01:20:43.800 It doesn't talk about Jesus being the son of God 1840 01:20:43.800 --> 01:20:44.520 to talks about. 1841 01:20:44.359 --> 01:20:48.159 About divinity a lot, and like how he how he 1842 01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:51.000 became divine, and at least. 1843 01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:51.840 In the culture is like geist. 1844 01:20:52.119 --> 01:20:55.680 Yeah, well, well, that's just sacrifice. I think every Magisian 1845 01:20:55.760 --> 01:20:57.680 actually has to give up. You're gonna have to give 1846 01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:01.920 up the flesh. I think you have to die. You 1847 01:21:01.960 --> 01:21:04.960 have to have an nde almost like a shamanic experience. 1848 01:21:05.520 --> 01:21:08.199 I do believe that from crossing the Abyss, from the 1849 01:21:08.239 --> 01:21:12.079 experiences I've had that Flatliners, that movie flat Liners is 1850 01:21:12.159 --> 01:21:12.640 very real. 1851 01:21:13.720 --> 01:21:16.199 Wow, you might like the guy that we had on 1852 01:21:16.279 --> 01:21:19.000 the Shaman that we just had on recently. 1853 01:21:19.520 --> 01:21:21.760 Yeah, he was interesting. He was an interesting dude. 1854 01:21:22.039 --> 01:21:23.439 Check him out, Joe Safer. 1855 01:21:23.720 --> 01:21:25.399 Yeah, I do think that's part of it. He's even 1856 01:21:25.720 --> 01:21:28.479 technically a biopiity. That's part of the blood sacrifice. You're 1857 01:21:28.520 --> 01:21:30.960 leaving behind your body, you're giving up the blood, you're 1858 01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:31.760 going into spirit. 1859 01:21:33.079 --> 01:21:33.399 Now. 1860 01:21:34.039 --> 01:21:36.279 We also had another guy on the show who is 1861 01:21:36.319 --> 01:21:42.279 a professional sacrificer. He has a ninety nine percent success rate. 1862 01:21:42.319 --> 01:21:46.520 He gets paid really well, according to his own admission here, 1863 01:21:46.520 --> 01:21:49.119 and he's not affiliate with the OTO or any of 1864 01:21:49.159 --> 01:21:52.880 these things. He claims that he is performing sacrifices to demons. 1865 01:21:53.399 --> 01:21:57.000 He claims angels too, but he's he got really weird 1866 01:21:57.039 --> 01:21:58.039 about those questions. 1867 01:21:58.039 --> 01:22:02.560 But he is very people aroundist. People are animals, animals, uh. 1868 01:22:02.600 --> 01:22:06.119 He also, you know, depends on what you're asking for, 1869 01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:08.399 will depend on if it's a chicken or if it's 1870 01:22:08.439 --> 01:22:10.319 a goat, or if it's a cow or whatever. 1871 01:22:10.359 --> 01:22:12.720 The fuck That doesn't surprise me. 1872 01:22:12.800 --> 01:22:16.319 Actually, yeah, the bigger the ask the bigger the sacrifice. 1873 01:22:16.399 --> 01:22:17.680 And he's got a whole thing he does. 1874 01:22:17.760 --> 01:22:19.520 If you could, if you could write it the right way, 1875 01:22:19.560 --> 01:22:21.520 you can probably do that on Etsy, believe it or not. 1876 01:22:21.600 --> 01:22:22.520 That's how fucking pathetic. 1877 01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:24.279 No, what. 1878 01:22:26.239 --> 01:22:31.560 Witches out there? Sorts of spells made for it. 1879 01:22:31.720 --> 01:22:35.680 Yeah, you can get little like actual hand scrolls of spells. 1880 01:22:35.760 --> 01:22:37.920 You can get all sorts of stuff written. 1881 01:22:39.880 --> 01:22:42.119 And like just you know, putting up dumb shits like 1882 01:22:43.199 --> 01:22:45.920 people people something like you're fucking stupid. 1883 01:22:45.960 --> 01:22:47.239 He can't take that and think it works. 1884 01:22:47.439 --> 01:22:50.159 So this dude again has a ninety nine percent success 1885 01:22:50.239 --> 01:22:53.000 rate and he's making a killing like thousands. 1886 01:22:53.319 --> 01:22:56.720 Sacrifice that I wouldn't doubt. I would not doubt that. 1887 01:22:56.920 --> 01:23:00.159 So my my question is, do you think he's actually 1888 01:23:00.239 --> 01:23:04.199 speaking to or sacrificing to actual demons or do you 1889 01:23:04.239 --> 01:23:07.600 think this is more in the realm of uh, you know, 1890 01:23:08.039 --> 01:23:10.640 as a placebo effect and these people are spending all 1891 01:23:10.640 --> 01:23:12.880 this money and he's killing an animal and things are 1892 01:23:12.880 --> 01:23:14.680 working for him, but it's not because of the thing. 1893 01:23:14.800 --> 01:23:15.600 Like I don't know. 1894 01:23:16.239 --> 01:23:18.039 I mean, if the guy's just a good scam honest, 1895 01:23:18.039 --> 01:23:20.840 it could be placebo. But I would also say that 1896 01:23:20.880 --> 01:23:24.760 there could be actually, like I don't know, I think 1897 01:23:24.760 --> 01:23:28.359 when you start getting into shit like that, a lot 1898 01:23:28.359 --> 01:23:33.079 of energetic release trauma, even where the person's mindset is 1899 01:23:33.119 --> 01:23:37.600 that's doing the ritual uh, I just think gave it 1900 01:23:37.640 --> 01:23:40.720 all that, like you could even start to just create 1901 01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:43.920 something awful. Yeah, you know, like even like I do 1902 01:23:44.079 --> 01:23:46.880 believe like some Polta guys could be created by the 1903 01:23:46.880 --> 01:23:51.239 person having the experience. You know, I wonder like, could 1904 01:23:51.279 --> 01:23:53.239 you don't think of that in a ritualistic sense, in 1905 01:23:53.319 --> 01:23:55.800 something negative? You know, I do wonder if, like, you know, 1906 01:23:55.960 --> 01:23:59.119 just the person doing the ritual, the killing, the releasing 1907 01:23:59.159 --> 01:24:01.800 of the spirit, spilled blood, you know, all sorts of 1908 01:24:01.840 --> 01:24:03.600 you know, shit, who knows what the fuck's going on 1909 01:24:03.720 --> 01:24:05.000 scientifically as well, and. 1910 01:24:04.920 --> 01:24:06.720 Then burning it afterwards as well the ash. 1911 01:24:06.920 --> 01:24:09.079 Yeah, yeah, I just so I wouldn't doubt that. 1912 01:24:09.159 --> 01:24:13.119 I mean, just like the mindset that that person might 1913 01:24:13.199 --> 01:24:16.119 be into just who knows what kind of energy is 1914 01:24:16.159 --> 01:24:19.479 already being like, I don't know, you know what I'm 1915 01:24:19.479 --> 01:24:20.560 getting at right, No, I do. 1916 01:24:22.159 --> 01:24:22.319 Knows. 1917 01:24:23.520 --> 01:24:25.600 I was thinking about this because we were all raised 1918 01:24:25.720 --> 01:24:29.359 Christian or Catholic, the both of you. I find it 1919 01:24:29.399 --> 01:24:32.560 really interesting that when people are raised in any type 1920 01:24:32.560 --> 01:24:35.840 of religion, they inherently kind of like go back to 1921 01:24:35.920 --> 01:24:38.960 that religion. Because there's a big question about that is 1922 01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:41.439 that it's been ingrained in us to the point where 1923 01:24:41.439 --> 01:24:45.479 it's like brainwashed almost, that like, even if you try 1924 01:24:45.479 --> 01:24:47.600 to escape it, you end up coming back to it 1925 01:24:47.640 --> 01:24:49.880 because it's something that you grew up with, and that 1926 01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:52.399 it's all of your core memories and all of these 1927 01:24:52.439 --> 01:24:55.640 things are already embedded into that. Do you believe that 1928 01:24:55.640 --> 01:24:57.159 that's kind of a thing or do you feel like 1929 01:24:57.199 --> 01:25:01.439 because of your experiences, you drew back because that was 1930 01:25:01.640 --> 01:25:04.039 what's safety, and that's what was safe to you when 1931 01:25:04.079 --> 01:25:06.279 you were younger, and that's where you kind of like 1932 01:25:06.479 --> 01:25:09.760 have formed a new type of way of going about this. 1933 01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:12.319 No, I totally, I totally think a lot of people 1934 01:25:12.359 --> 01:25:12.720 do that. 1935 01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:18.119 I myself could be easily probably switch right over to Catholicism, 1936 01:25:18.119 --> 01:25:22.760 maybe Christianity after my experience, easily Catholicism. It's so ritualistic, 1937 01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:26.520 it's saw a huge value. That's one thing. I will 1938 01:25:26.560 --> 01:25:30.000 even say, the story of Jesus and what little like 1939 01:25:30.079 --> 01:25:30.880 do you know by the Bible. 1940 01:25:30.880 --> 01:25:32.720 I'm not gonna say no much in that that. 1941 01:25:33.079 --> 01:25:35.159 Old stuff actually hits me a lot harder and it 1942 01:25:35.199 --> 01:25:37.600 is a lot more beautiful to me since my experience 1943 01:25:37.640 --> 01:25:40.840 with magic. I actually like I give that book a 1944 01:25:40.880 --> 01:25:42.520 lot more credit than I used to do in the past, 1945 01:25:42.560 --> 01:25:45.800 believe it or not. So I can see it being 1946 01:25:45.960 --> 01:25:49.439 very easy for me after my experience, to do that. 1947 01:25:49.479 --> 01:25:51.520 And I do think like other people like I'm going 1948 01:25:51.560 --> 01:25:55.399 to just use him as example, Kanye West's occultist, and 1949 01:25:55.439 --> 01:25:58.479 it's easy for him to identify Christianity or whatever he's 1950 01:25:58.479 --> 01:26:01.159 doing throwing out the cross prior beliefs and then his 1951 01:26:01.279 --> 01:26:05.760 experience and probably seeing maybe the esoteric side of that 1952 01:26:05.880 --> 01:26:07.840 and being able to resonate with it. 1953 01:26:08.199 --> 01:26:09.079 So that's why he doesn't. 1954 01:26:09.079 --> 01:26:10.520 That's why you get like, I think a lot of 1955 01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:12.680 like I'll just use Trumpets his examples. 1956 01:26:12.720 --> 01:26:13.840 He's got all these bitches around them. 1957 01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:16.039 They always got crosses on, you know, all these people 1958 01:26:16.079 --> 01:26:19.279 like to supposedly Christians or whatever. I do question if 1959 01:26:19.279 --> 01:26:21.680 they're more of like mystics or gnostics and they're just 1960 01:26:21.720 --> 01:26:24.880 claim Christians. Sure, but it's a you know, it's an 1961 01:26:24.920 --> 01:26:27.720 easy it's an easy thing for them to emunilate in 1962 01:26:27.760 --> 01:26:29.880 the public that they still can identify with. 1963 01:26:30.439 --> 01:26:31.880 Yeah, you know, so I do. 1964 01:26:31.880 --> 01:26:33.680 Think a lot of people, a lot of people even 1965 01:26:33.720 --> 01:26:36.000 do that in the occult community that are in the public. 1966 01:26:36.479 --> 01:26:39.079 I do think like that's another thing, like while in 1967 01:26:39.159 --> 01:26:41.640 my opinion, I think a lot of people that claim 1968 01:26:41.800 --> 01:26:44.199 Jews if they're even really a Jew, I think a 1969 01:26:44.199 --> 01:26:48.439 lot of them might be just Kabbalistics, people in the Kabbala, 1970 01:26:48.920 --> 01:26:50.640 more of the hermetic kabala. 1971 01:26:50.680 --> 01:26:53.600 And then just say it's easy to say I'm fucking Jewish. 1972 01:26:53.600 --> 01:26:56.279 Because if you're heavily into that, you probably know more 1973 01:26:56.279 --> 01:26:58.600 about that fucking religion than that or normal jew even 1974 01:26:58.640 --> 01:26:59.720 with anyway. 1975 01:26:59.640 --> 01:27:02.520 Yeah, if I'm not mistaken your eye even we are 1976 01:27:02.560 --> 01:27:04.680 going to be having an episode on the Kabbala here soon. 1977 01:27:04.880 --> 01:27:07.720 Our resident Jewish correspondent has been doing some studying up 1978 01:27:07.760 --> 01:27:09.880 on it. He said, Bro, there's probably gonna be a two, 1979 01:27:09.920 --> 01:27:11.439 if not three part like. 1980 01:27:11.439 --> 01:27:13.680 Your situation somebody on. I'll come on and talk shit 1981 01:27:13.720 --> 01:27:17.319 about that all day, dude, That's all I was. That's 1982 01:27:17.479 --> 01:27:18.279 all I'm about. 1983 01:27:18.159 --> 01:27:20.880 Is so I would love to hear from him as 1984 01:27:20.920 --> 01:27:24.119 a Jewish person. Then from us. 1985 01:27:24.600 --> 01:27:26.840 He would probably hate mine because it's trumetic and I 1986 01:27:26.920 --> 01:27:28.600 feel like he's a. 1987 01:27:28.680 --> 01:27:33.880 Orthodox so oh yeah, no, No, he's performed conform Okay. 1988 01:27:34.079 --> 01:27:37.800 I thought he he was like he doesn't have the curlyes. 1989 01:27:38.079 --> 01:27:40.359 Okay, yeah, I thought he was like right below them. 1990 01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:43.560 So now his ship will probably be if you have 1991 01:27:43.640 --> 01:27:44.840 you have you listened to him yet? 1992 01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:48.399 So he is a cult member of ours, I'm sorry, Yeah, 1993 01:27:48.439 --> 01:27:50.720 he's he's a cult member of ours. He is on 1994 01:27:50.840 --> 01:27:52.880 every Patreon live that we do. He's a homie. 1995 01:27:53.920 --> 01:27:56.640 Gonna be some deep ship because if it's actually more 1996 01:27:56.680 --> 01:28:01.319 of like real Kabbala special, it would be surprised how 1997 01:28:01.359 --> 01:28:03.920 much it's actually trying to understand the creation of God. 1998 01:28:04.439 --> 01:28:07.279 And so according to him, we've talked about this as well. 1999 01:28:07.399 --> 01:28:10.600 So many orders and so many organizations claim that they're 2000 01:28:10.640 --> 01:28:14.520 cabolistic and they are taking maybe a section of it 2001 01:28:14.760 --> 01:28:18.279 and misquoting it and misunderstanding and all these things. From 2002 01:28:18.279 --> 01:28:20.840 what he told me, He's like, dude, this is not 2003 01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:24.439 anything of some sort of crazy occult magic and ritual 2004 01:28:24.479 --> 01:28:25.279 in this tree of life. 2005 01:28:25.279 --> 01:28:28.119 Oh, that would be hermeticabala. He's totally right, exactly. 2006 01:28:28.199 --> 01:28:32.560 So I'm wondering what the differences are between Hebrew Kabbalistic 2007 01:28:32.800 --> 01:28:36.880 teachings and Hermetic Cobolistic teachings because a lot of people 2008 01:28:36.880 --> 01:28:38.079 think that these are one and the same. 2009 01:28:38.880 --> 01:28:40.720 No, they're actually not totally right. 2010 01:28:41.279 --> 01:28:43.560 Uh yeah, this would be like I mean, you know, 2011 01:28:43.640 --> 01:28:47.439 all the Hebrew and everything, all these it's much more 2012 01:28:47.520 --> 01:28:52.479 on like you know, coming into existence, angels, different densities 2013 01:28:52.520 --> 01:28:54.800 of like you know, the soul and all this crazy shit. 2014 01:28:55.600 --> 01:28:55.760 This. 2015 01:28:55.840 --> 01:28:58.399 I mean, I would still go along with the hermetic Kabalah, 2016 01:28:58.439 --> 01:29:01.359 but then it will like attribute like on the Tree 2017 01:29:01.359 --> 01:29:05.760 of Life, there'll be spheres that match certain uh you know, 2018 01:29:05.800 --> 01:29:09.079 words in Hebrew or whatever be nah, chokma to mean 2019 01:29:09.159 --> 01:29:13.840 certain things, wisdom, understanding, cather diifferent. You get all these 2020 01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:16.039 these spheres and then like their Medica Balla will now 2021 01:29:16.119 --> 01:29:19.479 like I'll attribute Saturn to Banah, you know, or the 2022 01:29:19.560 --> 01:29:23.079 Sun will go with Differat, or Goodbor will get Mars, 2023 01:29:23.560 --> 01:29:25.760 you know, like you'll start attributing that. Then you might 2024 01:29:25.800 --> 01:29:30.159 attribute like certain archangels to those. Now you might attribute 2025 01:29:31.119 --> 01:29:35.760 certain gods, you know, elements. Yeah, that's when you start 2026 01:29:35.800 --> 01:29:38.680 throwing all that in there. That's all extra that, you know, 2027 01:29:38.800 --> 01:29:41.640 that's that would be the Medica balla. All those spheres 2028 01:29:41.960 --> 01:29:44.159 would have all these different things that is attributed to 2029 01:29:44.199 --> 01:29:47.399 it that is not originally. 2030 01:29:47.159 --> 01:29:50.439 And yeah, and that's again, I feel like so many 2031 01:29:50.439 --> 01:29:53.000 people misunderstand that these are two separate things. 2032 01:29:53.479 --> 01:29:56.359 And oh yeah, yeah, it's I think it'll be a 2033 01:29:56.359 --> 01:29:57.800 fun episode when the time comes. 2034 01:29:58.079 --> 01:29:58.760 I'm not gonna lie. 2035 01:29:58.840 --> 01:29:59.199 I think. 2036 01:30:01.039 --> 01:30:02.840 I think that's great if you're getting actually somebody to 2037 01:30:02.880 --> 01:30:05.359 come on, I have traditional deal. I think that's great 2038 01:30:05.359 --> 01:30:07.640 because most people, I think will be very surprised. 2039 01:30:08.159 --> 01:30:10.760 We want to get people on that are about certain traditions. 2040 01:30:10.800 --> 01:30:14.479 We have a Santa Ria homie, I would he won't 2041 01:30:14.520 --> 01:30:17.239 tell us about a lot. He told us a little 2042 01:30:17.239 --> 01:30:19.680 bit about his walk with it and certain rituals that 2043 01:30:19.720 --> 01:30:22.079 he does every day, but he doesn't really go into 2044 01:30:22.119 --> 01:30:27.479 depth on it. And apparently his patrona PATRONI he's godfather, 2045 01:30:27.560 --> 01:30:29.960 whatever the word is patron. I don't speak the Spanish, 2046 01:30:29.960 --> 01:30:32.479 but anyway, he is in New Orleans, and apparently New 2047 01:30:32.600 --> 01:30:35.039 Orleans is a pretty big Santo Ria community as well 2048 01:30:35.079 --> 01:30:38.279 as a Haitian voodoo community. I would love to get 2049 01:30:38.359 --> 01:30:43.920 a real, not internet, a real voodoo practitioner on the show, 2050 01:30:43.960 --> 01:30:45.199 just to ask him questions. 2051 01:30:46.720 --> 01:30:47.800 Come on, oh, I. 2052 01:30:47.720 --> 01:30:50.359 Could probably get Oh, I could get you somebody probably 2053 01:30:50.439 --> 01:30:56.119 both really my show for recently, Yeah check out, yeah, 2054 01:30:56.239 --> 01:30:59.479 my show will Yeah, I actually get a lot basically 2055 01:30:59.520 --> 01:31:01.720 the list months has been at practicing. 2056 01:31:01.760 --> 01:31:03.399 I call this god damn hell. 2057 01:31:03.479 --> 01:31:04.359 Yeah, that's awesome. 2058 01:31:05.199 --> 01:31:08.279 A lot of them authors are actually like so, yeah, 2059 01:31:08.399 --> 01:31:10.079 if there's anybody ever on there, man, just let me know. 2060 01:31:10.079 --> 01:31:10.880 I'll give you their content. 2061 01:31:10.960 --> 01:31:13.359 Yeah. I like I like the authors because like then 2062 01:31:13.399 --> 01:31:17.399 you can actually like go in detail. Yeah, yep, that's 2063 01:31:17.680 --> 01:31:19.479 I didn't actually know about the jew different. 2064 01:31:19.560 --> 01:31:20.199 I'm not gonna lie. 2065 01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:21.840 I don't know you would to talk about somebody that 2066 01:31:21.880 --> 01:31:24.319 has enough rituals though the last freaking lifetime. 2067 01:31:24.800 --> 01:31:27.880 Every damn rule they have. There are so many rules. 2068 01:31:28.000 --> 01:31:29.520 Oh the Jews, Yes, yeah, they do. 2069 01:31:29.640 --> 01:31:32.159 Every time he tells us new rules, I'm like, bro, what, like, 2070 01:31:32.520 --> 01:31:34.239 what's the point of even living at this point? You 2071 01:31:34.279 --> 01:31:36.560 can't do anything. You can't eat, you can't dress it 2072 01:31:36.600 --> 01:31:38.399 any way. You have to do all of these things. 2073 01:31:38.279 --> 01:31:41.199 Like can't eat meat and cheese on the same sandwich 2074 01:31:41.199 --> 01:31:42.199 because that's fucking blast. 2075 01:31:42.720 --> 01:31:45.000 You can't have a bloody steak. You can't have anything 2076 01:31:45.039 --> 01:31:47.199 with blood, Like I can't get over that. By the way, 2077 01:31:47.359 --> 01:31:48.760 I have not let that one go. 2078 01:31:49.039 --> 01:31:51.760 The whole left shoe thing, and they're in the all 2079 01:31:51.800 --> 01:31:52.479 the different things. 2080 01:31:52.520 --> 01:31:55.000 I'm like, dude, I would fail in the first five 2081 01:31:55.039 --> 01:31:56.920 minutes of trying to even be a Jew if I 2082 01:31:57.000 --> 01:31:59.439 was like if I was a man and having to 2083 01:31:59.439 --> 01:32:01.359 be a now, I just like, there's no way. 2084 01:32:01.640 --> 01:32:04.079 It's just I'm dead. That's it. If there was like 2085 01:32:04.399 --> 01:32:06.840 your death or you have to follow these rules, well 2086 01:32:07.039 --> 01:32:11.520 it was a good ride. I'm out, there's no die. 2087 01:32:13.760 --> 01:32:17.039 Being extra dramatic right now, but I mean super dramatic 2088 01:32:17.119 --> 01:32:19.560 with it. But I've told this story as many times. 2089 01:32:19.600 --> 01:32:21.399 I was like, no, there's no way I could not 2090 01:32:21.479 --> 01:32:22.439 handle all the rules. 2091 01:32:23.000 --> 01:32:23.960 That's no. 2092 01:32:24.119 --> 01:32:27.000 I want to be out in the wild, running, running free. 2093 01:32:27.159 --> 01:32:27.920 That's what I want to be. 2094 01:32:28.720 --> 01:32:29.000 God. 2095 01:32:29.840 --> 01:32:31.359 Do you know one thing I do want to bring 2096 01:32:31.439 --> 01:32:34.159 up that I realized, like it's just something that I've 2097 01:32:34.159 --> 01:32:35.840 noticed too recently, and I was kind of coming out 2098 01:32:35.880 --> 01:32:37.399 of the lit field. I think because we're talking about 2099 01:32:37.399 --> 01:32:39.399 Cabala and then we're talking about, like, you know, other things, 2100 01:32:40.640 --> 01:32:42.760 you might notice it because like you've looked at I 2101 01:32:42.760 --> 01:32:44.840 guess you seem like you might be hip to some 2102 01:32:44.880 --> 01:32:48.920 of alchemy. A lot of this stuff actually comes out 2103 01:32:48.920 --> 01:32:50.000 of the Middle East. 2104 01:32:50.079 --> 01:32:53.600 Yeah, which I mean, yeah, that makes sense, right. 2105 01:32:53.800 --> 01:32:56.520 So alchemy, the first book of alchemy we have comes 2106 01:32:56.520 --> 01:33:00.399 from ancient Egypt, and it was essentially it There was 2107 01:33:00.399 --> 01:33:02.319 no spirituality in it whatsoever. 2108 01:33:02.359 --> 01:33:04.239 There was no ether. It was essentially how to do 2109 01:33:04.399 --> 01:33:05.600 plating of metals. 2110 01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:07.960 You would take a spoon that is silver in color, 2111 01:33:08.319 --> 01:33:09.880 dip it in this liquid and it would come out 2112 01:33:09.920 --> 01:33:12.039 gold in color. And they're like, they turned a base 2113 01:33:12.079 --> 01:33:14.640 metal to gold. No, No, they just plated it with copper. 2114 01:33:14.920 --> 01:33:17.600 But it was a chemical plating, and unless you knew 2115 01:33:17.640 --> 01:33:19.680 what the fuck you were doing, that seems like magic. 2116 01:33:20.119 --> 01:33:23.239 In reality, that was what we would call chemistry, second, third, 2117 01:33:23.319 --> 01:33:26.199 fourth alchemy books to ever be written a lot of it. 2118 01:33:26.199 --> 01:33:27.840 Even when I was were talking about Marry the Jewish 2119 01:33:27.920 --> 01:33:30.119 or Maria, and I don't remember her last name, I 2120 01:33:30.119 --> 01:33:34.119 don't speak Hebrew, but around the first century AD she was. 2121 01:33:34.840 --> 01:33:35.680 She was the mother of. 2122 01:33:35.680 --> 01:33:38.720 Alchemy as we know it today. And she's also how 2123 01:33:38.720 --> 01:33:41.680 we got distillation. And if you look at her texts 2124 01:33:41.720 --> 01:33:45.319 about divine feminine and divine masculine and how these two things, 2125 01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:48.800 when blended in the right proportions, makes the ultimate purifying 2126 01:33:48.840 --> 01:33:52.399 factor in these things. If we put that alongside a 2127 01:33:52.479 --> 01:33:55.880 chemical equation of today. She was talking about acids and 2128 01:33:55.960 --> 01:33:58.800 bases and how when you blend those you get a salt, 2129 01:33:59.239 --> 01:34:02.399 which they used to purify things and to you know, 2130 01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:04.920 keep meat for longer and things like that. It was 2131 01:34:04.960 --> 01:34:07.520 never meant to be an actual thing that we like, 2132 01:34:07.800 --> 01:34:10.680 Oh well, I'm a divine masculine incarnate, Now the fuck 2133 01:34:10.720 --> 01:34:13.880 you're not. That's what we would call acid, a divine 2134 01:34:13.880 --> 01:34:17.039 feminine you mean a base? What are we talking about here? 2135 01:34:17.039 --> 01:34:19.079 But that's the thing they were using it. 2136 01:34:21.279 --> 01:34:23.359 They're using that song pop right in my head and 2137 01:34:23.399 --> 01:34:24.520 I was like, hmm, let's. 2138 01:34:25.079 --> 01:34:28.479 They were using certain terms and certain phrases to make 2139 01:34:28.520 --> 01:34:30.840 it more poetic, because that's how people wrote back then. 2140 01:34:31.399 --> 01:34:35.079 And unless you were an initiate, or let me rephrase 2141 01:34:35.119 --> 01:34:38.479 that sentence, unless you were educated on how to read this, 2142 01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:40.840 you wouldn't know what the fuck you were talking about. 2143 01:34:41.199 --> 01:34:44.600 So then right, and then cut to the Middle Ages 2144 01:34:44.760 --> 01:34:47.159 or the Renaissance or any time when these people are 2145 01:34:47.199 --> 01:34:50.439 reading this, this text from a thousand years ago, and 2146 01:34:50.479 --> 01:34:53.079 they're saying, oh, look, it's the blending of this and 2147 01:34:53.079 --> 01:34:55.439 the blending of this. It's like, no, no, dude, that 2148 01:34:55.520 --> 01:34:58.520 was just that was chemistry. You're doing the same thing today, 2149 01:34:58.840 --> 01:35:02.399 but you're just using different in terms for it. It's 2150 01:35:02.520 --> 01:35:07.439 only from a certain perspective and a certain technological vantage point. 2151 01:35:07.800 --> 01:35:09.119 They were able to look at a lot of these 2152 01:35:09.159 --> 01:35:13.199 alchemical texts alongside what we know as chemical equations these 2153 01:35:13.279 --> 01:35:16.159 days and see, oh, so that's what that was. It 2154 01:35:16.239 --> 01:35:18.880 had nothing to do with spirit cooking. It had nothing 2155 01:35:18.880 --> 01:35:21.359 to do with achieving some sort of an enlightened state. 2156 01:35:21.800 --> 01:35:27.359 It was about becoming a better scientist. At least that's 2157 01:35:27.399 --> 01:35:29.279 my take. A lot of people disagree with me on 2158 01:35:29.319 --> 01:35:32.520 that one. But I've done a very deep amount of research. 2159 01:35:32.199 --> 01:35:35.000 In alchemy to dig more details. 2160 01:35:36.159 --> 01:35:38.000 Yeah, but what I wanted to get at is that 2161 01:35:38.079 --> 01:35:40.760 like I don't think like whatever, we're always like looking 2162 01:35:40.800 --> 01:35:44.239 at occultism, like even for myself, even looking looking for 2163 01:35:44.279 --> 01:35:46.319 the negative, because I do look at it obviously, I 2164 01:35:46.319 --> 01:35:48.319 think that's what's fucking all the propaganda and everything on 2165 01:35:48.359 --> 01:35:48.840 the TV. 2166 01:35:48.680 --> 01:35:50.199 As a little fucking occultism and shit. 2167 01:35:50.840 --> 01:35:55.840 But like it's always like like either Cabbala or Judaism 2168 01:35:56.000 --> 01:35:58.399 or like even for me, I do know people who 2169 01:35:58.439 --> 01:36:01.319 are Christians or Catholics and they practice their own versions 2170 01:36:01.319 --> 01:36:01.760 of magic. 2171 01:36:02.239 --> 01:36:04.399 You never really hear about the isla. 2172 01:36:06.119 --> 01:36:08.119 So it is like, you know, is that like part 2173 01:36:08.159 --> 01:36:10.439 of the equation that we're missing, that we don't understand 2174 01:36:10.439 --> 01:36:13.039 what the fuck's going on because we're not really paying attention. 2175 01:36:13.439 --> 01:36:17.920 So they got a couple of Islamic groups that are 2176 01:36:17.960 --> 01:36:22.119 practicing what we might call occultism. So butshar al Assad 2177 01:36:22.680 --> 01:36:25.760 he was a part of the Alla white Muslim sect. 2178 01:36:26.199 --> 01:36:29.279 They are seen as the mystics and some might say 2179 01:36:29.319 --> 01:36:33.000 the occultists of Islam. Uh, there's another group. 2180 01:36:33.199 --> 01:36:36.600 Fuck, I forget what they're called, but they they are 2181 01:36:36.760 --> 01:36:40.840 Muslim although they worship John the Baptist as they're like 2182 01:36:41.199 --> 01:36:41.960 prime dude. 2183 01:36:42.359 --> 01:36:45.800 They believe in baptizing themselves once a week. They have 2184 01:36:45.840 --> 01:36:48.800 a very strict policy. It's something that you are. You 2185 01:36:48.840 --> 01:36:51.079 can't convert to it, you have to be born into It. 2186 01:36:51.079 --> 01:36:54.920 Starts as a d It's not drus, it's it's something else. 2187 01:36:55.520 --> 01:36:56.680 And this is gonna piss me off. 2188 01:36:56.960 --> 01:37:00.840 But they are also seen as an occultic group than Islam. 2189 01:37:01.199 --> 01:37:04.119 They worshiped John the Baptist like he's their guy. Like, no, 2190 01:37:04.239 --> 01:37:06.079 they have God. They called they got Allah. 2191 01:37:06.199 --> 01:37:08.560 But Templars did that too, didn't they. 2192 01:37:09.119 --> 01:37:12.119 The Templars would get baptized before they would take their initiation. 2193 01:37:12.279 --> 01:37:14.960 But I mean, to be honest with you, they also 2194 01:37:14.960 --> 01:37:20.159 believed in uh, well, they would take a bath. It 2195 01:37:20.199 --> 01:37:23.800 wouldn't technically be considered baptism. But I mean, even depending 2196 01:37:23.840 --> 01:37:25.920 on which section of the Middle Ages you're talking about, 2197 01:37:26.479 --> 01:37:28.479 a couple that was about to get married would go 2198 01:37:28.520 --> 01:37:31.680 to confession and get rebaptized because apparently. 2199 01:37:31.520 --> 01:37:34.600 You know, that was not enough at their birth or whatever. 2200 01:37:35.159 --> 01:37:36.880 No, this is the one. The mandy Aians. 2201 01:37:37.399 --> 01:37:39.000 So they put like John the bat They thought they 2202 01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:40.640 had John the Baptist head on his stick, right. 2203 01:37:41.479 --> 01:37:44.079 They claim that there is little to no evidence that 2204 01:37:44.119 --> 01:37:46.720 they actually did that. When the templars are getting shot well, 2205 01:37:46.800 --> 01:37:48.520 I was gonna say shot down, that's not accurate. When 2206 01:37:48.520 --> 01:37:52.079 the templars were getting uh tortured and all these things 2207 01:37:52.159 --> 01:37:56.079 is because they they created the first international bank, right, 2208 01:37:56.239 --> 01:38:00.520 and they were funding whole crusades and whole kingdoms. They 2209 01:38:00.560 --> 01:38:02.600 propped up the king of France for years and years 2210 01:38:02.600 --> 01:38:05.680 and years, and then finally came to collect and old 2211 01:38:05.800 --> 01:38:10.119 King Philip the Second, if I'm not mistaken, when they 2212 01:38:10.159 --> 01:38:12.880 came to collect, he instead of paying his debt. Bless 2213 01:38:12.920 --> 01:38:14.960 you by the way, he instead of paying his debt, 2214 01:38:15.119 --> 01:38:16.880 he decided to go to the pope and say he 2215 01:38:16.960 --> 01:38:19.640 caught some of these dudes doing some horrible shit. The 2216 01:38:19.680 --> 01:38:21.159 Pope was kind of tired of the fact that they 2217 01:38:21.159 --> 01:38:23.640 were getting more powerful than the Catholic Church, so they 2218 01:38:23.640 --> 01:38:25.760 pretty much just brought them all in on charges of 2219 01:38:25.800 --> 01:38:28.760 everything from spinning on the cross to ask fucking each 2220 01:38:28.800 --> 01:38:31.159 other to worshiping John the Baptist. 2221 01:38:31.439 --> 01:38:32.800 They threw out every. 2222 01:38:32.520 --> 01:38:36.520 Single like most insane crime you could think of, and 2223 01:38:36.560 --> 01:38:39.880 then after a year of medieval torture, finally these dudes 2224 01:38:39.960 --> 01:38:41.840 just agreed to make the fucking torture stop and be 2225 01:38:41.880 --> 01:38:42.520 burned at the stake. 2226 01:38:43.079 --> 01:38:44.359 That's essentially what happened there. 2227 01:38:45.600 --> 01:38:46.520 Yo, I ran. 2228 01:38:46.359 --> 01:38:48.720 Into Uh there was the thing. I went to a 2229 01:38:48.720 --> 01:38:51.159 cool cosmic summer. It was causing some twenty twenty five 2230 01:38:51.720 --> 01:38:55.199 and the Knights Templar were there. Timothy Hogan was asked 2231 01:38:55.199 --> 01:38:59.000 Scott Walter, they were open Templars and they're being a 2232 01:38:59.039 --> 01:39:03.199 part of the Masons, and jo, you craziest shit man. 2233 01:39:03.239 --> 01:39:04.880 This is gonna blow my mind if they even pulled 2234 01:39:04.880 --> 01:39:09.239 this off. They were saying then that they have proof. 2235 01:39:10.279 --> 01:39:14.000 They deciphered some sort of fucking tablet that has brought 2236 01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:17.520 them discertain areas in the United States where they swear 2237 01:39:17.800 --> 01:39:22.960 that they have one I think of six or seven arcs. 2238 01:39:23.119 --> 01:39:25.600 They believe there's more than one arc. They have one 2239 01:39:25.600 --> 01:39:28.680 of them, and they have the bones of Jesus and 2240 01:39:28.760 --> 01:39:32.560 Mary and Child, and they said within the next few 2241 01:39:32.640 --> 01:39:34.439 years that that should be coming out to the public. 2242 01:39:35.600 --> 01:39:40.079 So the multiple arcs thing, that's accurate. They're historically speaking, 2243 01:39:40.119 --> 01:39:46.239 there was more than one. The bones of Mary, maybe 2244 01:39:46.840 --> 01:39:50.039 the bones of Jesus. That goes directly in the face 2245 01:39:50.079 --> 01:39:53.560 of even if they are talking about Christian esotericism that 2246 01:39:53.800 --> 01:39:55.039 flies in the face of that. 2247 01:39:56.800 --> 01:40:00.439 So all right, I think me and jury so might 2248 01:40:00.479 --> 01:40:02.359 have covered this. It might have been on your show too, 2249 01:40:02.399 --> 01:40:04.359 And see this is something. As I was sitting there 2250 01:40:04.359 --> 01:40:06.560 listening to them say this, I started thinking about this 2251 01:40:06.800 --> 01:40:09.079 topic we covered on your show. I think it was 2252 01:40:09.119 --> 01:40:11.000 we were trying to show how freemason we were trying 2253 01:40:11.039 --> 01:40:14.199 to influence the Catholic Church. And there was a letter 2254 01:40:14.279 --> 01:40:16.840 between Freemasons where they said, like, you know, talking about 2255 01:40:16.920 --> 01:40:19.720 how to actually bring in the new World order. It 2256 01:40:19.840 --> 01:40:21.800 was all this stuff and like war, which is going 2257 01:40:21.840 --> 01:40:24.039 on right now is one of them. And they said 2258 01:40:24.039 --> 01:40:28.439 that in order to now to infiltrate religion, we would 2259 01:40:28.479 --> 01:40:31.359 have to come out with something basically that would change 2260 01:40:32.840 --> 01:40:37.239 religious thought to the to the point where like even 2261 01:40:37.319 --> 01:40:41.840 people who were atheists or agnostics even would probably change 2262 01:40:41.920 --> 01:40:44.359 their mind because something would be physically handed to it. 2263 01:40:44.359 --> 01:40:46.319 It was almost like, now you'll get people who didn't 2264 01:40:46.359 --> 01:40:49.960 believe to believe in something, and then get other people 2265 01:40:49.960 --> 01:40:52.239 who believed in something to possibly. 2266 01:40:51.800 --> 01:40:53.359 Change their mind because there's proof of it. 2267 01:40:53.880 --> 01:40:57.079 And I think my opinion, if they do try to 2268 01:40:57.119 --> 01:40:59.720 present this, I do think this is a way of 2269 01:40:59.720 --> 01:41:01.880 playing that off, because now if you have physical proof, 2270 01:41:01.920 --> 01:41:04.279 you'll get some people might be like, all right, this 2271 01:41:04.359 --> 01:41:07.640 shit might be real. Holy fuck, maybe Jesus was real, 2272 01:41:07.920 --> 01:41:10.680 And then you might get some people. I just you know, 2273 01:41:10.760 --> 01:41:12.079 I'm saying, you see where we're going with this. I 2274 01:41:12.119 --> 01:41:14.079 do wonder the sigh up in itself. 2275 01:41:14.600 --> 01:41:17.359 So as far as the whole Jesus being a real thing, 2276 01:41:17.600 --> 01:41:21.159 even the most atheistic scholars have to agree that this 2277 01:41:21.279 --> 01:41:24.520 dude named Yashiah, who lived in Nazareth around the turn 2278 01:41:24.680 --> 01:41:29.319 of the Common Era, lived was crucified under Pontius Pilot, 2279 01:41:29.359 --> 01:41:32.680 their governor Judea, And there is hundreds of eyewitnesses that 2280 01:41:32.760 --> 01:41:34.119 claim that he rose from the dead. 2281 01:41:34.640 --> 01:41:36.840 And to say, there's some people who deny that total 2282 01:41:36.880 --> 01:41:39.119 truth to it, might believe it now with physical proof. 2283 01:41:39.159 --> 01:41:41.520 Well, even if nothing else is the shroud of touring. 2284 01:41:41.600 --> 01:41:43.119 And I've heard so many people say, oh, well that's 2285 01:41:43.119 --> 01:41:43.640 a forgery. 2286 01:41:43.680 --> 01:41:43.960 Brother. 2287 01:41:44.000 --> 01:41:47.399 If that's a forgery, then these people in the thirteen 2288 01:41:47.520 --> 01:41:50.960 hundreds had to be so smart that they knew that 2289 01:41:51.079 --> 01:41:53.039 one day they would be able to test the soil 2290 01:41:53.199 --> 01:41:56.359 samples from Jerusalem, and they made sure to go douse 2291 01:41:56.479 --> 01:41:59.079 it on some of that that is there's no way, 2292 01:41:59.079 --> 01:42:00.640 that's a forgery. That's not even a one in a 2293 01:42:00.680 --> 01:42:04.039 million shot. We're talking about a one in quintillion shot 2294 01:42:04.079 --> 01:42:05.079 of it being a forgery. 2295 01:42:05.119 --> 01:42:05.800 So like whatever. 2296 01:42:05.840 --> 01:42:10.479 But aside from that, the historical background to Jesus, he 2297 01:42:10.520 --> 01:42:13.880 absolutely was a real person who did certain things. Now 2298 01:42:14.000 --> 01:42:16.640 was he the son of God? That's where the ounce 2299 01:42:16.680 --> 01:42:19.800 of faith has to come in all these things. But 2300 01:42:19.840 --> 01:42:23.840 for the templars who are claiming that there were, let 2301 01:42:23.920 --> 01:42:25.159 me rephrase what I'm about to say. 2302 01:42:25.880 --> 01:42:27.479 The Masonic Order. 2303 01:42:27.439 --> 01:42:30.680 That claimed that they are templars, there's a little bit 2304 01:42:30.720 --> 01:42:33.840 of a historical hiccup that they overlook, even though they're 2305 01:42:33.880 --> 01:42:37.359 the ones that hold the key to it. So last 2306 01:42:37.399 --> 01:42:39.439 grand master of the Knights Templars was a dude named 2307 01:42:39.479 --> 01:42:42.279 Jacques de Morlet. Right, he was burned at the stake, 2308 01:42:42.800 --> 01:42:45.920 and as he was burning, he cursed the Pope and 2309 01:42:45.960 --> 01:42:48.319 the King of France and said, before a year's time, 2310 01:42:48.359 --> 01:42:51.000 I will see you both before a tribunal before God. 2311 01:42:51.199 --> 01:42:52.960 Both of them died within a year, So that was 2312 01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:54.159 a thing that happened, right, all right? 2313 01:42:54.199 --> 01:42:54.439 Cool. 2314 01:42:54.920 --> 01:42:57.680 His next in line was this dude named Larminius, and 2315 01:42:57.800 --> 01:43:02.760 Larminius wrote a charter and it's called Larmini's Charter, where 2316 01:43:02.760 --> 01:43:06.439 he basically was sending this out to all Templars worldwide 2317 01:43:06.439 --> 01:43:08.640 that were in hiding now and he was telling them, 2318 01:43:08.680 --> 01:43:12.239 here's how we're going to operate moving forward. He also 2319 01:43:12.359 --> 01:43:15.439 within this charter made a mention of this group in 2320 01:43:15.560 --> 01:43:19.000 Scotland who are claiming to be Templars but do not 2321 01:43:19.119 --> 01:43:22.800 hold true to our ethos. Essentially, what he was saying 2322 01:43:22.840 --> 01:43:25.840 is this group in Scotland are rocking our logo, but 2323 01:43:25.880 --> 01:43:30.479 they're doing some occultic and evil shit, this Scottish group. 2324 01:43:30.680 --> 01:43:34.560 Have you ever heard of the Sinclair Chapel? No? Oh no, yeah, 2325 01:43:35.439 --> 01:43:37.880 you've seen angels and demons or you've seen the Da 2326 01:43:37.920 --> 01:43:41.760 Vinci Code. Yes, yes, that chapel is a real place 2327 01:43:41.800 --> 01:43:48.840 where you can see Templar symbolism, Kabbalistic symbolism, and Freemason symbolism, 2328 01:43:48.880 --> 01:43:51.720 all this one spot. We would now call this group 2329 01:43:51.760 --> 01:43:54.359 what would later become the Scottish and then York Right 2330 01:43:54.479 --> 01:43:57.680 of the Freemasons, who claim that they are the descendants 2331 01:43:57.680 --> 01:44:01.199 of the true Templars, when in reality that Larminius Charter, 2332 01:44:01.279 --> 01:44:05.159 which is housed in the Grand Lodge of the International Freemasons, 2333 01:44:05.159 --> 01:44:07.720 it's in London, right this charter is there, it's in 2334 01:44:07.800 --> 01:44:11.680 it's underglass the whole thing. That charter specifically says that 2335 01:44:11.760 --> 01:44:15.000 these groups that are now Freemasons are not true Templars, 2336 01:44:15.399 --> 01:44:18.880 but they blasted to show their lineage somehow. It blows 2337 01:44:18.920 --> 01:44:19.399 my mind. 2338 01:44:19.760 --> 01:44:23.359 The true Templars are from Portugal because Portugal is a 2339 01:44:23.399 --> 01:44:26.359 safe haven for the Templars when all other nations in 2340 01:44:26.399 --> 01:44:29.520 Europe basically ousted them and called them heretics. So if 2341 01:44:29.520 --> 01:44:33.399 there's a Templar organization that is from Portugal from the 2342 01:44:33.520 --> 01:44:37.000 thirteen and fourteen hundreds, you have my attention. Other than that, 2343 01:44:37.239 --> 01:44:40.239 all the other groups are pretenders honestly. 2344 01:44:40.439 --> 01:44:44.000 Oh yeah, yeah, Well it's still the reason. It's they're 2345 01:44:44.000 --> 01:44:45.039 inside the Freemasons. 2346 01:44:45.439 --> 01:44:45.880 That's the thing. 2347 01:44:45.920 --> 01:44:46.079 Though. 2348 01:44:46.079 --> 01:44:48.960 The Freemasons took a lot of their iconography and they 2349 01:44:49.479 --> 01:44:51.640 tried to use that to claim that that's some sort 2350 01:44:51.640 --> 01:44:54.760 of a lineage of theirs. The Freemasons have their lineage, 2351 01:44:54.760 --> 01:44:56.439 don't get me wrong, which it's the same as like 2352 01:44:56.479 --> 01:44:59.039 the Shriners. They claim that their lineage goes back to 2353 01:44:59.079 --> 01:45:03.399 ancient Egypt. Brother, No, ancient Egypt did not call themselves 2354 01:45:03.439 --> 01:45:05.920 free Masons. Now, yes, you're talking about the Builders of 2355 01:45:05.920 --> 01:45:07.720 the Great Pyramid and these stone Masons. 2356 01:45:07.840 --> 01:45:10.800 Sure absolutely, If anything we're talking. 2357 01:45:10.600 --> 01:45:14.560 About Stone Mason's Guild that had craft secrets or things 2358 01:45:14.600 --> 01:45:17.039 like that, Sure, but it's not. It's not to the 2359 01:45:17.239 --> 01:45:21.239 esoteric thing that the Freemasons that we know of as today, 2360 01:45:21.439 --> 01:45:24.039 and it's there's a they, it's they took a little 2361 01:45:24.039 --> 01:45:25.359 bit from here, a little bit from there, and it 2362 01:45:25.399 --> 01:45:27.399 became a giant secret networking group. 2363 01:45:27.479 --> 01:45:28.840 And that's kind of what it is today. 2364 01:45:29.159 --> 01:45:31.840 Ninety nine percent of the Freemasons are not evil dudes 2365 01:45:31.880 --> 01:45:34.640 doing a cult shit. They're mostly dudes that are getting 2366 01:45:34.640 --> 01:45:38.159 together for their fundraising events, doing charity shit to get 2367 01:45:38.159 --> 01:45:40.600 away from the wives and drink some scotches. 2368 01:45:40.159 --> 01:45:41.760 Smokes some with the boys. 2369 01:45:41.920 --> 01:45:42.119 You know. 2370 01:45:42.640 --> 01:45:43.520 It's not that. 2371 01:45:43.720 --> 01:45:45.680 Yeah, you're right, but so. 2372 01:45:46.159 --> 01:45:48.159 I just when I saw that, I just I found 2373 01:45:48.199 --> 01:45:50.760 that very sketchy. That whole story just that made me 2374 01:45:50.840 --> 01:45:52.479 uneasy to. 2375 01:45:52.600 --> 01:45:56.079 Change it's and and even still as far as the 2376 01:45:56.119 --> 01:45:59.199 Catholics are concerned, at the Vatican two, they made it 2377 01:45:59.199 --> 01:46:01.520 to where if you are a Catholic and you're also 2378 01:46:01.600 --> 01:46:04.800 a Freemason, you are hereby excommunicated from the Catholic Church. 2379 01:46:05.880 --> 01:46:06.760 And that also kills me. 2380 01:46:06.760 --> 01:46:10.199 Whenever we hear, especially in the conspiracy world, they'll say, oh, well, 2381 01:46:10.239 --> 01:46:15.199 you know the Jesuit, Freemason, Zionistic approach, and it's like, 2382 01:46:15.800 --> 01:46:18.680 you understand, those three groups fucking hate each other and 2383 01:46:18.720 --> 01:46:21.359 have been at war with each other for centuries, right, Like, 2384 01:46:21.640 --> 01:46:22.920 I'm not trying to be that guy. 2385 01:46:23.319 --> 01:46:24.399 I know that dude. 2386 01:46:24.439 --> 01:46:26.119 Do you know how many times they'll just be like 2387 01:46:26.159 --> 01:46:28.920 going through social media and like the certain like phrases 2388 01:46:28.920 --> 01:46:32.600 of hit words that people mismatched together. Yeah, something sound 2389 01:46:32.680 --> 01:46:35.159 like it's so definite or so serious and just like 2390 01:46:35.640 --> 01:46:37.920 tudor zero fucking clue, what the fuck you just said? 2391 01:46:38.239 --> 01:46:40.920 You're like, this sounds good in my head. 2392 01:46:40.960 --> 01:46:43.439 You know, you just fucking spin it up. I know what. 2393 01:46:45.039 --> 01:46:48.560 Those three organizations, if we're talking about them as individual groups, Oh, 2394 01:46:48.560 --> 01:46:52.439 there's tons of conspiratorial shit there. The Zionists, the ultra Zionists, 2395 01:46:52.479 --> 01:46:55.960 I should say, the Jesuit Order, oh one hundred percent, 2396 01:46:56.039 --> 01:46:58.039 and then of course the Freemasons. We could go on 2397 01:46:58.159 --> 01:47:01.119 and on about those three individually. To say that there's 2398 01:47:01.119 --> 01:47:04.079 a dude or even a secret cabal of all three 2399 01:47:04.159 --> 01:47:07.600 of them that are somehow in kahoots, it's like, you understand, 2400 01:47:07.680 --> 01:47:14.039 that's like saying America, North Korea, and Iran are all 2401 01:47:14.039 --> 01:47:18.319 in kahoots together, you know that American, North Korean, Iranian 2402 01:47:18.520 --> 01:47:23.079 intel guy. And it's like that, No, what, you're not 2403 01:47:23.119 --> 01:47:24.760 going to have a president of all three of those 2404 01:47:24.800 --> 01:47:27.119 countries or some sort of a plug for all three. 2405 01:47:27.199 --> 01:47:30.520 That's not Yeah, maybe in propaganda, but I don't think 2406 01:47:30.560 --> 01:47:31.479 like any other way. 2407 01:47:31.439 --> 01:47:36.000 Exactly now, I mean, circling back to Epstein, everybody claims 2408 01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:38.399 that he was a Mussad asset, and he absolutely was, 2409 01:47:38.720 --> 01:47:41.800 for sure, but please understand he was an asset for 2410 01:47:41.880 --> 01:47:43.359 like eighteen countries. 2411 01:47:44.039 --> 01:47:47.239 He wasn't just Israeli. It wasn't just American. How Norway 2412 01:47:47.359 --> 01:47:51.840 and China and Russia and France and multiple European countries 2413 01:47:51.880 --> 01:47:54.279 are all using him to get blackmail on people. 2414 01:47:55.439 --> 01:47:58.039 Yet I mean, I also think people also forget a 2415 01:47:58.079 --> 01:48:01.920 little bit too about how important his lane and her 2416 01:48:02.039 --> 01:48:02.680 father was. 2417 01:48:02.800 --> 01:48:06.000 Oh yeah, oh wonder what was. 2418 01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:09.119 Going on over there with like spying, you know again blackmail, 2419 01:48:09.199 --> 01:48:12.000 but like even her father ran the academic and the 2420 01:48:12.239 --> 01:48:15.239 yo we were you and me probably read books that 2421 01:48:15.359 --> 01:48:17.079 her fallow had published in our schools. 2422 01:48:17.880 --> 01:48:20.960 McGraw hill, dude, Yeah, McGraw hill and McMillan man yep. 2423 01:48:21.520 --> 01:48:23.319 I was just talking to my brother in law about that, 2424 01:48:23.399 --> 01:48:26.720 and he he didn't really know that, and it's like, yo, dude, 2425 01:48:26.720 --> 01:48:30.479 it's this goes way deeper than what most people really understand. 2426 01:48:30.920 --> 01:48:33.560 And finally we're at a point where people are they're 2427 01:48:33.720 --> 01:48:35.520 almost ready to have this conversation. 2428 01:48:35.960 --> 01:48:37.840 But she sold the company though. 2429 01:48:38.279 --> 01:48:40.600 Yeah, so if you look at the publication though, they 2430 01:48:40.640 --> 01:48:43.119 sold the companies and it hasn't been in circulation since 2431 01:48:43.159 --> 01:48:43.840 the seventies. 2432 01:48:44.760 --> 01:48:45.880 So McGraw hill. 2433 01:48:46.560 --> 01:48:50.479 So McGraw hill the company itself has been around, yes, 2434 01:48:50.960 --> 01:48:53.239 but the publications that he would have had a hand 2435 01:48:53.279 --> 01:48:56.640 in hadn't been happening since the late seventies. And actually 2436 01:48:56.680 --> 01:48:58.880 looked into it more because they actually had to release 2437 01:48:58.920 --> 01:49:01.520 a statement about it. And then I actually backtracked and 2438 01:49:01.560 --> 01:49:02.800 read through the history of. 2439 01:49:02.760 --> 01:49:03.760 The books themselves. 2440 01:49:04.279 --> 01:49:08.840 Technically, probably like our parents and maybe some of some 2441 01:49:08.920 --> 01:49:12.000 of a little bit older had at least some books 2442 01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:14.880 of course, like because my middle school was a super 2443 01:49:14.920 --> 01:49:17.800 little old school church that's like over one hundred years old, 2444 01:49:18.079 --> 01:49:20.079 and so like they had old school books and things 2445 01:49:20.159 --> 01:49:23.319 like that, So I'm sure that some of those publications 2446 01:49:23.319 --> 01:49:23.840 were in there. 2447 01:49:24.319 --> 01:49:26.319 I put it like this, the books that were teaching 2448 01:49:26.319 --> 01:49:29.560 people that blood was actually blue until it hit oxygen 2449 01:49:29.560 --> 01:49:31.199 and then it would read I'm just going to throw 2450 01:49:31.239 --> 01:49:31.520 it out. 2451 01:49:31.680 --> 01:49:32.520 I remember that. 2452 01:49:33.279 --> 01:49:35.920 I remember that too. I believe that. I believe that 2453 01:49:36.199 --> 01:49:36.720 it was like. 2454 01:49:37.039 --> 01:49:39.479 The Magic school Bus had it on the television in 2455 01:49:39.520 --> 01:49:41.439 the nineties. That was an understood fract. 2456 01:49:42.279 --> 01:49:44.439 Magic school Bus taught us a lot of things. So 2457 01:49:46.359 --> 01:49:49.000 almost have you heard that theory about the blue blood? 2458 01:49:49.359 --> 01:49:50.640 That's yeah, it's not accurate. 2459 01:49:51.279 --> 01:49:53.399 I meant, like, have you heard about like the timeline 2460 01:49:53.479 --> 01:49:56.640 shift and how like apparently we did actually have blue blood? 2461 01:49:56.720 --> 01:49:58.159 Oh shut up at one point. 2462 01:49:58.000 --> 01:50:01.279 And there's like a whole thing about this the royals did. 2463 01:50:01.800 --> 01:50:04.439 Okay, we all had like we all were taught these 2464 01:50:04.479 --> 01:50:07.000 things and everything like that. But I'm like, I had 2465 01:50:07.000 --> 01:50:09.600 my blood drawn over and over and over again as 2466 01:50:09.640 --> 01:50:12.439 a kid and I never saw and I like, I 2467 01:50:12.479 --> 01:50:14.359 almost cut off my entire finger, and I can tell 2468 01:50:14.359 --> 01:50:17.279 you that, like it was not blue, no blood underneath 2469 01:50:17.319 --> 01:50:20.319 that whole thing. So that by the way, child per 2470 01:50:20.359 --> 01:50:24.039 scissors can cut off fingers. Just to let everyone know, I. 2471 01:50:24.000 --> 01:50:26.800 Mean maybe again, maybe in the eighties and nineties, those 2472 01:50:26.880 --> 01:50:27.279 child per. 2473 01:50:27.279 --> 01:50:31.520 Scissors were child proof I'm just gonna yeah, no, that 2474 01:50:31.520 --> 01:50:33.840 that was one of those times I was like, yep, 2475 01:50:34.239 --> 01:50:35.079 I made a mistake. 2476 01:50:35.479 --> 01:50:37.000 But the point I'm bringing up, as far as the 2477 01:50:37.039 --> 01:50:42.840 blood thing goes, our teachers were taught probably using books 2478 01:50:42.840 --> 01:50:45.560 that Maxwell had a hand in, Oh yeah, for sure, 2479 01:50:45.920 --> 01:50:48.239 and a lot of them didn't. How many teachers are 2480 01:50:48.279 --> 01:50:51.279 re educating themselves. How many of them were. 2481 01:50:51.199 --> 01:50:53.880 Actually just spinning out the curriculum that they agreed upon 2482 01:50:53.920 --> 01:50:55.640 at the beginning of the year and they haven't actually 2483 01:50:55.760 --> 01:50:58.039 opened a book or re educated themselves in years. 2484 01:50:58.119 --> 01:51:01.279 My uncle's been a teacher for fifty years, and I 2485 01:51:01.319 --> 01:51:05.079 will say though that he's incredibly intelligent. He actually just 2486 01:51:05.119 --> 01:51:08.000 sent me more information about more books that he just read. 2487 01:51:08.319 --> 01:51:11.039 I'm a positive at this point that he's read like 2488 01:51:11.159 --> 01:51:13.439 at least ten thousand books in his life, if not more. 2489 01:51:13.600 --> 01:51:15.640 There's exceptions. They're are crazy. 2490 01:51:15.960 --> 01:51:17.880 But he also says that you have to get an 2491 01:51:17.920 --> 01:51:23.199 encyclopedia before nineteen fifty to be able to even see 2492 01:51:23.279 --> 01:51:26.640 the differences in the information, and that if you can 2493 01:51:26.680 --> 01:51:30.319 get one before nineteen fifty is when nineteen fifty two 2494 01:51:30.560 --> 01:51:33.039 is when they really did a big push and started 2495 01:51:33.039 --> 01:51:33.920 removing information. 2496 01:51:34.399 --> 01:51:36.079 He actually has a book. 2497 01:51:36.039 --> 01:51:38.720 Yeah, I get those pre civil rights books that that's 2498 01:51:38.760 --> 01:51:39.720 when the shift happens. 2499 01:51:39.760 --> 01:51:42.239 Well, so he has he has all sorts of ones, 2500 01:51:42.279 --> 01:51:44.359 like dating back of a really long time. He has 2501 01:51:44.439 --> 01:51:46.600 like one from I think like somewhere in the seventeen 2502 01:51:46.680 --> 01:51:49.520 hundred too or something, and like he can show the 2503 01:51:49.520 --> 01:51:51.680 progression of the narrative change. 2504 01:51:52.119 --> 01:51:54.680 He because he's not super big in conspiracies. 2505 01:51:54.680 --> 01:51:57.720 He's a very logical person and so like to him, 2506 01:51:57.720 --> 01:51:59.880 they conspiracs aren't really a thing because they're not tan. 2507 01:52:00.880 --> 01:52:04.359 But he can prove, though in the sense of a conspiracy, 2508 01:52:04.399 --> 01:52:07.399 that they've changed your education over and over and over again. 2509 01:52:07.640 --> 01:52:09.760 And he's like, and I've been saying this for so long, 2510 01:52:10.359 --> 01:52:12.640 and he's like, you should really get some of these books. 2511 01:52:12.680 --> 01:52:15.279 I'm like, oh, look, you tell me where to find them. 2512 01:52:15.439 --> 01:52:17.720 And then actually, my mom just became friends with a 2513 01:52:17.800 --> 01:52:21.640 rare book collector and like it's a distributor and all 2514 01:52:21.680 --> 01:52:24.960 this stuff, and I'm like, what hell, I need you 2515 01:52:25.039 --> 01:52:27.960 to help me find some encyclopedias because I want to 2516 01:52:27.960 --> 01:52:30.680 do some I want to actually compare them to each other. 2517 01:52:31.039 --> 01:52:32.760 I have a couple, but they're not here, they're in 2518 01:52:32.960 --> 01:52:36.279 organ but they're from like nineteen oh one. 2519 01:52:36.479 --> 01:52:38.520 This ship with the Epstein files. I wonder if your 2520 01:52:38.600 --> 01:52:42.039 uncle's a little bit more of a conspiracy theorist now, because, 2521 01:52:42.079 --> 01:52:43.319 like you said, it's not tangible. 2522 01:52:43.960 --> 01:52:46.000 A lot of people thought that this ship with Epstein 2523 01:52:46.119 --> 01:52:48.039 just was one of those crazy You mean to tell 2524 01:52:48.079 --> 01:52:50.000 me that these alas. 2525 01:52:49.520 --> 01:52:51.880 That they're I actually haven't talked to My mom talks 2526 01:52:51.920 --> 01:52:54.119 to him more because he's he's a lot older obviously, 2527 01:52:54.159 --> 01:52:57.720 but I know that he sent me things that like 2528 01:52:57.960 --> 01:53:02.600 clips of things lately on like Messenger, and I'm like, huh, okay. 2529 01:53:02.680 --> 01:53:05.520 I mean he pays attention to a lot of geopolitical 2530 01:53:05.520 --> 01:53:07.840 things and all this stuff, and he potentially he likes 2531 01:53:07.920 --> 01:53:11.079 patterns and so he's like, there's things. 2532 01:53:10.800 --> 01:53:11.960 That are happening, and I'm. 2533 01:53:11.760 --> 01:53:14.119 Like, mm hmmmm, welcome to the conversation. 2534 01:53:14.319 --> 01:53:16.000 Oh, I mean, he's been here. 2535 01:53:16.039 --> 01:53:17.920 I think it's just more or less when you're in 2536 01:53:17.960 --> 01:53:19.239 the academic setting. 2537 01:53:18.960 --> 01:53:21.000 You don't want to be screaming at the top of 2538 01:53:21.039 --> 01:53:21.520 your lungs. 2539 01:53:21.640 --> 01:53:25.319 Everyone reapes these children and eats them and everything is 2540 01:53:25.359 --> 01:53:25.680 a lie. 2541 01:53:25.880 --> 01:53:28.239 Like, I don't think that's going to go over very well. 2542 01:53:28.520 --> 01:53:30.359 It's a lot of these circles. 2543 01:53:30.039 --> 01:53:34.000 Now maybe today, but like, you know, fast backtrack ten years. 2544 01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:36.199 I don't think that would have rolled really well. 2545 01:53:36.119 --> 01:53:38.600 That's fair, that's fair. 2546 01:53:39.640 --> 01:53:42.920 You're mute and dick. Oh yeah, you can't hear me. 2547 01:53:43.039 --> 01:53:43.520 No, I can't. 2548 01:53:43.560 --> 01:53:48.760 Now, Okay, what were we saying? I think he said, yeah, right, yeah, 2549 01:53:49.119 --> 01:53:50.800 I was just sorry. 2550 01:53:51.359 --> 01:53:52.279 That you're good. 2551 01:53:52.640 --> 01:53:55.319 There's more people that are finally opening up to the conversation. 2552 01:53:55.439 --> 01:53:58.520 And we've said this before. COVID did a lot to 2553 01:53:58.600 --> 01:54:02.199 open people's minds to the act that the government actually. 2554 01:54:02.399 --> 01:54:03.840 Doesn't care about you. 2555 01:54:03.760 --> 01:54:06.119 And you know, maybe they hate you, maybe they don't, 2556 01:54:06.119 --> 01:54:07.680 but they certainly are not going to tell you the 2557 01:54:07.720 --> 01:54:10.359 whole story. Now, the whole thing with Epstein coming out, 2558 01:54:10.439 --> 01:54:13.199 it's like, wait a minute, how many people in the 2559 01:54:13.239 --> 01:54:16.600 government are actually evil? And it's like the vast majority, 2560 01:54:16.960 --> 01:54:17.800 Like I'll give. 2561 01:54:17.680 --> 01:54:20.520 Them like random people in there too, like Ellen de generous, 2562 01:54:20.640 --> 01:54:21.640 Leonardo DiCaprio. 2563 01:54:21.840 --> 01:54:25.079 Oh my god, there is fucking wild. 2564 01:54:25.159 --> 01:54:27.840 Do you see that thing that No, I don't know 2565 01:54:27.880 --> 01:54:28.920 if this is tangible or not. 2566 01:54:28.960 --> 01:54:31.720 I have not actually looked, but apparently there's an email 2567 01:54:31.720 --> 01:54:34.840 that states that he ate like seventy pounds of human flesh. 2568 01:54:35.119 --> 01:54:37.960 Who yoh leo, which like it doesn't surprise me. 2569 01:54:38.039 --> 01:54:40.439 Let's be really honest, especially with his whole crazy thing 2570 01:54:40.439 --> 01:54:43.520 about twenty one year olds and everything like that. But 2571 01:54:44.119 --> 01:54:46.720 apparently there is one in there. I will say I 2572 01:54:46.760 --> 01:54:50.479 have started to see people fact check photos and videos. 2573 01:54:50.439 --> 01:54:52.359 Showing that they're actually. 2574 01:54:52.000 --> 01:54:54.199 Yeah, showing that they're fake, and they're like these are 2575 01:54:54.279 --> 01:54:56.840 they're exposing them and stuff. I follow this girl that's 2576 01:54:56.880 --> 01:55:01.239 really she's some type of computer analyst person, and she's 2577 01:55:01.279 --> 01:55:03.079 been breaking down a lot of this stuff, like to 2578 01:55:03.359 --> 01:55:06.640 simple terms on like what you see on the emails 2579 01:55:06.680 --> 01:55:09.159 and like how to backtrack and how to actually find 2580 01:55:09.199 --> 01:55:12.520 the files. So apparently, whatever they did with these photos, 2581 01:55:12.880 --> 01:55:15.840 they've taken them and they've made them incredibly difficult for 2582 01:55:15.920 --> 01:55:19.039 people to find. I was able to see photos, and 2583 01:55:19.079 --> 01:55:20.640 now I haven't been able to find a lot of 2584 01:55:20.640 --> 01:55:21.239 the photos. 2585 01:55:21.520 --> 01:55:22.960 But the people that. 2586 01:55:22.920 --> 01:55:26.359 Are really computer smart, they've been able to reverse engineer 2587 01:55:26.399 --> 01:55:28.359 it and do all of these things and be able 2588 01:55:28.399 --> 01:55:31.880 to slowly start to get the photos back. Whatever they did, 2589 01:55:31.920 --> 01:55:34.279 I don't know, but a lot of there's a lot 2590 01:55:34.279 --> 01:55:36.640 of computer people that are on YouTube and stuff that 2591 01:55:36.680 --> 01:55:38.680 are breaking it down for you to try to help 2592 01:55:38.720 --> 01:55:40.199 you reverse engineer it. 2593 01:55:40.640 --> 01:55:42.479 I just haven't got to that point yet. 2594 01:55:42.840 --> 01:55:48.279 All right, yep, oh shit, he broke it. 2595 01:55:48.439 --> 01:55:50.720 I didn't break it. I didn't break it. I thought 2596 01:55:50.720 --> 01:55:52.520 I broke it, y'all. I was like, ooh, all right, 2597 01:55:53.119 --> 01:55:53.760 me and my glass. 2598 01:55:53.800 --> 01:55:56.159 I have glass. Everything I have like glass jars and 2599 01:55:56.199 --> 01:55:56.960 all sorts of stuff. 2600 01:55:57.000 --> 01:55:59.479 So it's the Pacific Northwesterner and you I get. 2601 01:55:59.359 --> 01:56:00.640 It very much. 2602 01:56:00.680 --> 01:56:02.239 Is it blows my mind? 2603 01:56:02.319 --> 01:56:02.479 Y'all. 2604 01:56:02.479 --> 01:56:05.399 Don't use anything disposable. Y'all have to like be able 2605 01:56:05.399 --> 01:56:06.560 to reuse everything. 2606 01:56:07.439 --> 01:56:07.920 No, you don't. 2607 01:56:08.119 --> 01:56:09.680 Used to be working. I just I don't know what 2608 01:56:09.760 --> 01:56:11.319 made me think of doing this. And I just typed 2609 01:56:11.319 --> 01:56:13.439 it in and it did work. If you go on 2610 01:56:13.439 --> 01:56:16.840 the Epstein files, just type in you know, dot jpg, 2611 01:56:18.119 --> 01:56:20.279 jpeg JPG. 2612 01:56:21.119 --> 01:56:22.600 Yep. But I just fucking pulled up. 2613 01:56:24.000 --> 01:56:24.520 Let's see. 2614 01:56:24.680 --> 01:56:26.720 Okay, Now I'm curious, Raven. 2615 01:56:27.239 --> 01:56:29.920 You can probably even do a PNG. Not those money. 2616 01:56:32.039 --> 01:56:35.399 Well what you said, it did work, and now it's not. No, 2617 01:56:35.439 --> 01:56:37.119 it's a thousand files. 2618 01:56:39.239 --> 01:56:43.079 So I went through hundreds of photos of like naked 2619 01:56:43.119 --> 01:56:45.479 people and people. 2620 01:56:46.039 --> 01:56:47.880 There's no it was just it was just porn. 2621 01:56:47.920 --> 01:56:51.319 It was different types of like porn photos and rumor. 2622 01:56:51.399 --> 01:56:53.640 I told you, like the majority of them looked of age. 2623 01:56:53.640 --> 01:56:55.399 But I like, you know, you didn't really want to. 2624 01:56:55.920 --> 01:56:57.760 I don't want to click on again. It doesn't look 2625 01:56:57.840 --> 01:56:58.720 like a lot of porn on it. 2626 01:56:58.880 --> 01:57:00.720 So I think you have to, like I forget what 2627 01:57:00.840 --> 01:57:01.319 you have to do. 2628 01:57:01.359 --> 01:57:03.159 You have to like click them, put them into a 2629 01:57:03.239 --> 01:57:06.680 separate file, and then somehow do you like MP four 2630 01:57:06.800 --> 01:57:09.119 or something, and you're able to They won't work. You 2631 01:57:09.119 --> 01:57:11.840 can't click the shit. Yeah, a lot of them you 2632 01:57:11.880 --> 01:57:14.439 can't click. So there's a lot of actually like hyperlinks 2633 01:57:14.439 --> 01:57:17.560 too in files, and so you try to click some 2634 01:57:17.680 --> 01:57:21.560 of those and they will sometimes work. I've definitely screwed 2635 01:57:21.600 --> 01:57:23.640 up my phone though, doing this on my cell phone, 2636 01:57:23.680 --> 01:57:26.840 because my phone has been not sending and receiving anything 2637 01:57:26.880 --> 01:57:29.239 and has been shutting on and off and doing all 2638 01:57:29.239 --> 01:57:30.000 sorts of weird shit. 2639 01:57:30.399 --> 01:57:32.880 Whatever I've been clicking on has pissed off my phone. 2640 01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:36.079 So you pissed off the Apple gods. 2641 01:57:36.600 --> 01:57:37.359 Well, I mean I do. 2642 01:57:37.520 --> 01:57:40.000 Talk a lot of shit about gates, so I wouldn't 2643 01:57:40.439 --> 01:57:41.720 I wouldn't think none of them are. 2644 01:57:41.640 --> 01:57:43.880 Going to work. Yeah, no shit, Yeah, different ones. It 2645 01:57:43.960 --> 01:57:44.600 is not working. 2646 01:57:44.880 --> 01:57:46.560 Yeah, you have to go back. You have to actually 2647 01:57:46.600 --> 01:57:48.319 like find one that might work for you. 2648 01:57:48.680 --> 01:57:50.840 Yeah, he's on a shooting range. 2649 01:57:51.920 --> 01:57:53.159 Oh yours are actually working? 2650 01:57:53.920 --> 01:57:56.159 Well I just did oh. 2651 01:57:55.800 --> 01:57:58.840 Go okay, gotcha. Yeah, we're on the phone right now. 2652 01:57:59.479 --> 01:58:01.640 My life can open them, so I'm not trying to 2653 01:58:01.680 --> 01:58:03.119 fry the way I make money either. 2654 01:58:03.199 --> 01:58:06.600 So like, you know, the my phone get screwed, you know, 2655 01:58:06.720 --> 01:58:07.239 no big deal. 2656 01:58:07.600 --> 01:58:11.279 We can use your laptop, baby, what. 2657 01:58:10.399 --> 01:58:13.239 With my laptop a bitch? Old Yeah, that bitch work 2658 01:58:13.319 --> 01:58:14.079 better than yours. 2659 01:58:14.239 --> 01:58:14.840 Watch mouth. 2660 01:58:15.680 --> 01:58:18.359 Yours is like like big Bertha Man and just over 2661 01:58:18.399 --> 01:58:21.880 here running yours yours like that, NuGen. We're here with 2662 01:58:21.920 --> 01:58:24.720 them silicon tits and all that stuff like silicos. 2663 01:58:26.079 --> 01:58:28.119 Wow, doesn't even have a. 2664 01:58:28.119 --> 01:58:30.560 Port, it's got USB s ports. 2665 01:58:30.880 --> 01:58:33.680 No, we need to be old school with it, like clearly, 2666 01:58:34.880 --> 01:58:37.920 do you know me? Fucking cords we have behind us right. 2667 01:58:37.800 --> 01:58:38.840 Now, a lot. 2668 01:58:39.159 --> 01:58:41.479 We have like twenty five cords. Like right before we 2669 01:58:41.520 --> 01:58:44.359 got on here. Uh, I don't know who did this. 2670 01:58:44.439 --> 01:58:47.479 Probably one of my children ripped out the bottom half 2671 01:58:47.520 --> 01:58:49.840 of the ring light, the big ring light, and so 2672 01:58:49.920 --> 01:58:51.960 now we have two separate little ring lights. 2673 01:58:52.079 --> 01:58:53.720 Yeah, we didn't have time to go to my house 2674 01:58:53.760 --> 01:58:55.720 and grab my ring light from my studio, so it's 2675 01:58:55.720 --> 01:58:56.079 like fuck it. 2676 01:58:56.119 --> 01:58:56.840 We'll make it work. 2677 01:58:57.359 --> 01:59:00.359 That's the whole time. What are you finding on your end? 2678 01:59:01.520 --> 01:59:03.680 I switched over to PNG, and that just seems to 2679 01:59:03.720 --> 01:59:07.239 be like a lot of like images of like how 2680 01:59:07.239 --> 01:59:11.359 it's actually like website, like it's not like photos for 2681 01:59:11.399 --> 01:59:12.640 even P and G popping up. 2682 01:59:13.359 --> 01:59:17.159 So do you believe that Epstein was an occultist or 2683 01:59:17.199 --> 01:59:17.399 do you? 2684 01:59:18.319 --> 01:59:19.239 Yeah? 2685 01:59:19.359 --> 01:59:21.520 I didn't watch the whole Steve Badden thing, but I 2686 01:59:21.560 --> 01:59:23.800 did watch clips of it, Like that one interview that 2687 01:59:23.840 --> 01:59:25.880 he did. There was a lot of things that he 2688 01:59:26.000 --> 01:59:29.119 was starting to say that was just very you know, 2689 01:59:29.199 --> 01:59:30.960 cabalistic or even a could. 2690 01:59:30.760 --> 01:59:31.359 Like to be what. 2691 01:59:31.560 --> 01:59:34.199 Let's look up the word of cold my opinion. Let's 2692 01:59:34.199 --> 01:59:37.199 say if it comes up, seventy seventy results come up. 2693 01:59:37.720 --> 01:59:40.800 Really hmmm, let's see what's the first one. 2694 01:59:41.079 --> 01:59:43.159 I'm very curious of the fuck that the fact that 2695 01:59:43.159 --> 01:59:44.159 that word hit. 2696 01:59:44.439 --> 01:59:49.840 Etsy inspired about Etsy, Yeah, jewelry and leather. I mean, 2697 01:59:49.840 --> 01:59:53.760 it's just like one of those you know, subject mystical jewelry. 2698 01:59:53.960 --> 01:59:56.199 It's probably his girlfriend, his girlfriend about a shit ton 2699 01:59:56.239 --> 01:59:57.720 of stuff on Etsy and. 2700 01:59:57.640 --> 01:59:59.079 Wafer the dentist. 2701 01:59:59.560 --> 02:00:01.279 Yeah weird, she's weird. 2702 02:00:01.399 --> 02:00:02.840 But yeah, I don't know how many of you are 2703 02:00:02.960 --> 02:00:07.079 ordering things from Wayfair. But if you're ordering a you know, 2704 02:00:07.119 --> 02:00:11.039 an office chair for nine thousand dollars, it's probably not 2705 02:00:11.079 --> 02:00:12.640 going to be a chair that shows up in the box. 2706 02:00:13.399 --> 02:00:17.239 Oh wow, uh oh okay, so this is from Harry 2707 02:00:17.359 --> 02:00:19.760 Fish and this is too Epstein. 2708 02:00:19.920 --> 02:00:22.399 Harry Fish, what an unfortunate name. 2709 02:00:22.880 --> 02:00:27.800 Yeah, it's f I C sorry, f I s h Fish. 2710 02:00:28.000 --> 02:00:31.800 I guess okay, so it's too Epstein. It says incredible 2711 02:00:31.880 --> 02:00:35.600 and thanks for inviting me. Woody was is absolutely brilliant, 2712 02:00:35.600 --> 02:00:38.000 and I hope I can be as sharp as as 2713 02:00:38.359 --> 02:00:43.640 excuse me sharp as him At eighty one. Covet is 2714 02:00:43.720 --> 02:00:46.600 also with it. The stories are unbelievable. Best line of 2715 02:00:46.640 --> 02:00:49.520 the night the woman gave herself an abortion and Woody 2716 02:00:49.640 --> 02:00:52.760 said she would use a wooden hangar. Come on, that 2717 02:00:52.920 --> 02:00:56.039 was just pure brilliance. Look at your urine tests and 2718 02:00:56.119 --> 02:00:58.600 you do not have blood? And oh I looked at 2719 02:00:58.600 --> 02:01:00.680 your urine test and you do not have in your urine. 2720 02:01:00.680 --> 02:01:04.159 The dipstick showed a cult blood. Literally what it says, 2721 02:01:04.199 --> 02:01:04.880 ocult blood. 2722 02:01:05.520 --> 02:01:08.760 The dipstick in a urine sample shows a cult blood. 2723 02:01:09.039 --> 02:01:13.000 It's it's spelled literally just like that, look a cult blood. 2724 02:01:13.359 --> 02:01:15.479 I looked that up. And I did look that up, 2725 02:01:15.520 --> 02:01:18.079 and that does mean something in scientific terms. 2726 02:01:17.920 --> 02:01:21.239 But under but under a microscope, no red blood cells 2727 02:01:21.239 --> 02:01:23.640 were seen that can occur when you work out and 2728 02:01:23.680 --> 02:01:25.039 have muscle and blah blah. 2729 02:01:24.840 --> 02:01:27.680 Blah's hidden correct or unknown. 2730 02:01:28.800 --> 02:01:34.319 I didn't I didn't realize who linn oh Leon black Ah. 2731 02:01:34.920 --> 02:01:39.119 I thought he was just another old Jew. Wow, thanks 2732 02:01:39.159 --> 02:01:44.119 again for inviting me, Harry. And then back it says 2733 02:01:44.279 --> 02:01:46.399 what memories explanation points. 2734 02:01:47.680 --> 02:01:49.880 I didn't know, Leon. I just thought he was another 2735 02:01:49.960 --> 02:01:53.600 old Jew. You know, Jesus, dude, what does a cult 2736 02:01:53.680 --> 02:01:56.159 mean in medical terms? I want to say a cult 2737 02:01:56.199 --> 02:01:58.279 means unknown or h. 2738 02:01:59.319 --> 02:02:02.399 Sometimes I can if it's in the ship or if 2739 02:02:02.399 --> 02:02:03.279 it's in the urine. 2740 02:02:04.319 --> 02:02:06.399 Because at that point it's like you're looking for a culture, 2741 02:02:06.840 --> 02:02:08.520 but it's not. You wouldn't say it like that. 2742 02:02:09.319 --> 02:02:11.960 Hmm. Hang, and I'm looking it up right now. 2743 02:02:12.600 --> 02:02:15.000 Refers to something that is hidden or not visible, such 2744 02:02:15.039 --> 02:02:17.359 as a cult. Blood in the stool, which cannot be 2745 02:02:17.399 --> 02:02:19.600 seen with the naked eye, but detected in tests. It 2746 02:02:19.640 --> 02:02:23.600 often indicates the presence of condition that may require further investigation. 2747 02:02:28.800 --> 02:02:31.159 Well, okay, so that was one I learned. 2748 02:02:31.680 --> 02:02:34.439 Yeah, So I thought. I was like, wait a second, 2749 02:02:34.439 --> 02:02:34.760 because I. 2750 02:02:34.760 --> 02:02:37.479 Don't look as I saw a cold blood in that two. 2751 02:02:37.520 --> 02:02:40.000 At one point I didn't actually I didn't actually see. 2752 02:02:40.079 --> 02:02:41.159 I was like, what is this? 2753 02:02:41.560 --> 02:02:46.199 Yeah, so talking yep cold differences between the explaining and 2754 02:02:46.239 --> 02:02:48.600 the cult. So the problem with the files is that 2755 02:02:48.680 --> 02:02:50.720 so many of them are the exact same. They're just 2756 02:02:50.800 --> 02:02:54.800 duplicated except one word difference. Is so that him talking 2757 02:02:54.840 --> 02:02:57.640 about his grandma cells and breaking them down and breaking 2758 02:02:57.680 --> 02:03:00.680 his own cellular makeup down cell by cell, well, that 2759 02:03:00.920 --> 02:03:05.479 takes its over seventeen different ones that you have to 2760 02:03:05.520 --> 02:03:06.239 finally get to. 2761 02:03:06.640 --> 02:03:07.640 You have to piece it together. 2762 02:03:07.720 --> 02:03:10.640 You have to take snapshots of each of them to 2763 02:03:10.680 --> 02:03:13.600 be able to puzzle piece it all together. It took 2764 02:03:13.640 --> 02:03:15.960 me like over thirty minutes to figure this out because 2765 02:03:16.000 --> 02:03:17.960 I because I noticed I was reading them and I 2766 02:03:18.000 --> 02:03:20.279 would see like one word difference at the end, two 2767 02:03:20.319 --> 02:03:22.279 were difference at the end, then it would go back, 2768 02:03:22.319 --> 02:03:24.079 then it would be another one. It was like a 2769 02:03:24.079 --> 02:03:27.720 whole game, like a scavenger hunt game, which I actually love. 2770 02:03:27.840 --> 02:03:29.600 So I was like, I'm here for it, let's do it. 2771 02:03:29.800 --> 02:03:32.680 Like I've said a million times, women make the best detectives. 2772 02:03:33.119 --> 02:03:34.399 I love that there's been a lot. 2773 02:03:34.279 --> 02:03:36.960 Of money, great a true crime and cult shows. 2774 02:03:37.119 --> 02:03:39.479 Telling me I don't I actually don't vibe with true crime. 2775 02:03:39.720 --> 02:03:41.800 I know a lot of our people love them. I 2776 02:03:41.840 --> 02:03:44.439 personally just don't like to watch them anymore. I used 2777 02:03:44.439 --> 02:03:46.359 to like them when I was younger. Well no, actually 2778 02:03:46.399 --> 02:03:48.760 I just watched er like on repeat while I was 2779 02:03:48.800 --> 02:03:49.399 eating dinner. 2780 02:03:49.720 --> 02:03:51.560 Look like the untold stories of the yar. 2781 02:03:51.800 --> 02:03:53.560 I'm just saying, as far as women on like the 2782 02:03:53.600 --> 02:03:56.399 police forces go, if you were to put all of 2783 02:03:56.479 --> 02:03:59.119 the women in a detective role and just let them 2784 02:03:59.159 --> 02:04:02.159 take a personal venue deta against whatever or whoever they're 2785 02:04:02.199 --> 02:04:05.680 looking for, they'll find that motherfucker in twenty four hours, 2786 02:04:05.680 --> 02:04:08.680 no questions asked. I'm just saying, yeah, then got a 2787 02:04:08.800 --> 02:04:09.279 mind for that. 2788 02:04:09.439 --> 02:04:12.239 They slighted somebody? Oh yeah, well it's the details. 2789 02:04:12.560 --> 02:04:12.960 That's it. 2790 02:04:13.600 --> 02:04:15.439 Were a rigged to look for details that a man 2791 02:04:15.520 --> 02:04:16.680 simply will not see. 2792 02:04:16.800 --> 02:04:19.760 Oh yeah, it's the details. It's a hyperfixation of details, 2793 02:04:19.880 --> 02:04:22.199 like all of it. Like I've already looked at his 2794 02:04:22.359 --> 02:04:23.840 entire background like four times. 2795 02:04:24.279 --> 02:04:26.439 Like as soon as he. 2796 02:04:26.399 --> 02:04:28.760 Popped on, I was like, boom boom boom boom boom. Okay, 2797 02:04:28.800 --> 02:04:30.960 cool now, I got his whole background. I already memorized 2798 02:04:31.039 --> 02:04:31.800 it's his house. 2799 02:04:31.840 --> 02:04:33.000 What do you fucking I know? 2800 02:04:33.119 --> 02:04:36.239 But I'm just saying, like, if it came down to 2801 02:04:36.399 --> 02:04:39.880 like identifying that like his background in a picture later on, 2802 02:04:40.199 --> 02:04:42.000 I guarantee I could probably pick it out. 2803 02:04:42.199 --> 02:04:43.840 Oh, men and women. 2804 02:04:43.680 --> 02:04:47.159 Are because well for me, purpose like for me, I 2805 02:04:47.279 --> 02:04:49.720 pick up like certain things, and that's how like I 2806 02:04:49.760 --> 02:04:52.600 remember things like I remember like the color of your book, 2807 02:04:52.640 --> 02:04:54.239 and I remember that you had this like little gold 2808 02:04:54.239 --> 02:04:56.640 pyramid thing, and I remember, like that's what That's what 2809 02:04:56.680 --> 02:04:58.439 I'm looking at. And so when I would look at 2810 02:04:58.479 --> 02:05:01.159 another photo, I up on those things. 2811 02:05:01.279 --> 02:05:03.560 Perfect example, didn't even realize he had a pyramid on 2812 02:05:03.600 --> 02:05:03.960 the table. 2813 02:05:04.800 --> 02:05:07.199 It looks like it. 2814 02:05:07.159 --> 02:05:09.439 Looks like a little because like from our angle, like 2815 02:05:09.479 --> 02:05:11.800 because it's so tiny, it looks like a little pyramid 2816 02:05:11.880 --> 02:05:14.399 or kind of like rounded on the edges on the bottom. 2817 02:05:14.439 --> 02:05:19.199 And I'm like, what is that exactly? You didn't even 2818 02:05:19.199 --> 02:05:20.039 notice it, did you? 2819 02:05:20.079 --> 02:05:20.279 No? 2820 02:05:20.439 --> 02:05:22.840 Not once, literally didn't even notice there was a book 2821 02:05:22.880 --> 02:05:24.520 on the fucking table. I've been looking at him the 2822 02:05:24.560 --> 02:05:25.039 whole time. 2823 02:05:25.520 --> 02:05:27.520 The other thing is a speaker on the other end 2824 02:05:27.520 --> 02:05:29.359 of bo speaker see. 2825 02:05:29.560 --> 02:05:31.319 Sae I'm just saying, y'all. 2826 02:05:31.399 --> 02:05:35.000 Y'all are built for detective work, especially if you take 2827 02:05:35.000 --> 02:05:37.560 a personal interest in whatever it is or whoever it is, 2828 02:05:37.680 --> 02:05:39.520 pretend like they fucked you over. 2829 02:05:39.680 --> 02:05:42.000 It's like, oh ah, got that ass. 2830 02:05:42.439 --> 02:05:43.920 Yeah, I will say that. 2831 02:05:44.000 --> 02:05:46.520 I've like had a I had to call one of 2832 02:05:46.520 --> 02:05:48.279 my friends. I have a friend that I swear. 2833 02:05:48.119 --> 02:05:50.399 To God she should be. She should be a detective. 2834 02:05:51.000 --> 02:05:54.239 Her level is unmatched, being able to find ship in 2835 02:05:54.279 --> 02:05:56.560 a matter of no time. It's like I was like, hey, 2836 02:05:56.680 --> 02:05:59.920 can you help me find this and this and man? 2837 02:06:00.039 --> 02:06:02.680 And within like an hour, she's like, Okay, well, this 2838 02:06:02.720 --> 02:06:06.960 is where they frequent, this is their geolocation for the pictures. 2839 02:06:07.039 --> 02:06:09.039 This is where I looked through all the photos and 2840 02:06:09.279 --> 02:06:12.680 I found exactly like I zoomed in, I found the location. 2841 02:06:12.800 --> 02:06:15.199 I looked at the snapshot and all that. I was like, what, 2842 02:06:15.479 --> 02:06:17.720 how did you do all this so quickly? She's like, Oh, 2843 02:06:17.760 --> 02:06:20.119 it was really easy. I'm like, oh, cal, y'all are 2844 02:06:20.119 --> 02:06:20.520 built for this. 2845 02:06:21.079 --> 02:06:23.640 Last apparently I'm not that built for it, because I 2846 02:06:23.720 --> 02:06:26.159 was like, I had to call in some help because 2847 02:06:26.199 --> 02:06:28.159 I was like, uh, what are you what are we 2848 02:06:28.199 --> 02:06:29.840 all looking at? I mean, I could have but I'm 2849 02:06:29.880 --> 02:06:33.960 also like too impatient, so I'd rather just like confront 2850 02:06:34.000 --> 02:06:34.960 the person and ask them. 2851 02:06:35.079 --> 02:06:37.159 But that's just me, no shit. 2852 02:06:38.000 --> 02:06:40.039 I remember when I was big into watching and listening 2853 02:06:40.039 --> 02:06:42.640 to true crime on YouTube, a lot of the good 2854 02:06:42.680 --> 02:06:45.159 ones and the cult ones were always females that had 2855 02:06:45.199 --> 02:06:48.199 like the most script of the most information. I feel 2856 02:06:48.239 --> 02:06:51.039 like it's always like the cult ones, like, especially when 2857 02:06:51.119 --> 02:06:53.560 kids were involved. I think it's like such a maternal 2858 02:06:53.640 --> 02:06:56.520 thing that like if it gets them, they're like, oh, 2859 02:06:56.600 --> 02:06:58.920 I'm gonna find out everything and fucking put this out there. 2860 02:06:59.119 --> 02:07:02.880 I used to crime and detective TV shows, but I got. 2861 02:07:02.680 --> 02:07:04.920 Played out on them. I got burned out, dude. 2862 02:07:04.960 --> 02:07:08.520 So did I. I haven't in a while. They was 2863 02:07:08.640 --> 02:07:09.279 crazy with them. 2864 02:07:09.319 --> 02:07:11.800 We got like forty five of them now, and they 2865 02:07:11.880 --> 02:07:15.239 keep having their own little weird nuances and spins and like, 2866 02:07:15.359 --> 02:07:16.479 for instance. 2867 02:07:16.279 --> 02:07:19.119 It's like everything that's just getting gurgitated too. 2868 02:07:19.039 --> 02:07:21.800 That's it all, right? Like how many cis is do 2869 02:07:21.840 --> 02:07:25.800 we fucking need? Or csis or in CIS this, in 2870 02:07:25.920 --> 02:07:28.600 CIS this, And it's like, bro okay, there's only so 2871 02:07:28.640 --> 02:07:31.119 many ways y'all could do this right, There's only so 2872 02:07:31.119 --> 02:07:32.880 many ways we could reiterate. 2873 02:07:32.439 --> 02:07:37.319 What Law in Order is, and then cut to The Lucifer. 2874 02:07:36.920 --> 02:07:39.279 Show and they watch like every season of Best TV. 2875 02:07:40.159 --> 02:07:44.039 Okay, once again, I love that show, like every every show. 2876 02:07:44.840 --> 02:07:49.560 Wonderful Bud that got overplayed, and then again the fucking 2877 02:07:49.640 --> 02:07:50.359 Lucifer Show. 2878 02:07:50.920 --> 02:07:53.359 They had such I hate this show so much. I 2879 02:07:53.439 --> 02:07:55.920 love hear me out, Broy. 2880 02:07:56.479 --> 02:08:01.600 They had the perfect opportunity to humanize Satan and show 2881 02:08:01.680 --> 02:08:02.039 all the. 2882 02:08:02.000 --> 02:08:03.680 Things he could have been done so much better. 2883 02:08:04.000 --> 02:08:07.239 First episode, he's the owner of a nightclub. He's doing 2884 02:08:07.239 --> 02:08:11.239 some wild ship and immediately he gets hooked up with 2885 02:08:11.279 --> 02:08:14.680 a detective and they're now solving crimes together, and it's like, 2886 02:08:14.760 --> 02:08:19.439 I'm sorry, what, Yeah, we we didn't need another detective show, 2887 02:08:19.560 --> 02:08:23.119 certainly not one with Lucifer morning Star as the the 2888 02:08:23.239 --> 02:08:27.000 quirky tag along for the fucking cop team. 2889 02:08:27.039 --> 02:08:28.079 He was misunderstood. 2890 02:08:28.359 --> 02:08:29.479 It's bullshit. 2891 02:08:30.920 --> 02:08:33.000 Though, cabalistically, that would be the power in the glory. 2892 02:08:33.039 --> 02:08:34.880 That's right before he cross the abyss. 2893 02:08:34.640 --> 02:08:38.159 No, because Michael the archangel comes into it and has 2894 02:08:38.520 --> 02:08:41.760 has a baby with Lucifer's therapists, and it's like, I'm. 2895 02:08:41.640 --> 02:08:43.680 Sorry, bro, God comes into it. 2896 02:08:43.880 --> 02:08:46.199 His old lady comes in, like there's a lot of 2897 02:08:46.199 --> 02:08:48.039 different things that happens. 2898 02:08:48.600 --> 02:08:52.880 Yeah, he does fall on the cabalistic tru. 2899 02:08:55.359 --> 02:08:55.560 They have. 2900 02:08:55.600 --> 02:08:58.079 Also, they don't have like that. 2901 02:08:58.239 --> 02:08:58.600 We didn't. 2902 02:08:58.640 --> 02:09:00.399 They'll have a bunch of outright things. 2903 02:09:01.039 --> 02:09:02.399 But nobody. 2904 02:09:03.119 --> 02:09:05.800 Nobody asks for another detective show, but they just made 2905 02:09:05.800 --> 02:09:06.439 another one. 2906 02:09:06.279 --> 02:09:07.000 For the fun of it. 2907 02:09:07.079 --> 02:09:09.000 We asked for a really good looking Lucifer though. 2908 02:09:09.199 --> 02:09:11.560 So he's good looking to you. 2909 02:09:12.079 --> 02:09:15.319 He's not a bad looking man. Damn, he's not a 2910 02:09:15.359 --> 02:09:16.159 bad looking man. 2911 02:09:16.079 --> 02:09:18.640 Now, scrawny and weird with a big nose. I didn't 2912 02:09:18.640 --> 02:09:21.800 think that was Do women actually think that that actor. 2913 02:09:21.520 --> 02:09:22.119 Is good looking? 2914 02:09:22.560 --> 02:09:24.399 Yes, many women do. 2915 02:09:24.640 --> 02:09:27.119 Yes, there are certain actors that I could see it. 2916 02:09:27.359 --> 02:09:29.479 He's not bad looking, he's not a bad. 2917 02:09:29.560 --> 02:09:30.399 The British accent. 2918 02:09:31.520 --> 02:09:33.840 He seems really good and plays piano really good. 2919 02:09:34.159 --> 02:09:38.840 Oh shit, Oh there it is Lucifer. 2920 02:09:39.760 --> 02:09:43.039 They I mean, women are suckers for certain things. I 2921 02:09:43.079 --> 02:09:45.039 can't speak for all women kind, but I will say 2922 02:09:45.079 --> 02:09:49.800 that some of us are suckers for certain things. Accents, 2923 02:09:51.199 --> 02:09:52.720 playing musical instruments. 2924 02:09:52.800 --> 02:09:57.159 If he spoke with a fucking single wide trailer accent, 2925 02:09:57.479 --> 02:09:58.479 I promise. 2926 02:09:58.159 --> 02:09:59.800 You, I don't think he's that bad looking. 2927 02:10:03.159 --> 02:10:07.079 I'm just like what Now, there are certain actors that, Like, 2928 02:10:07.119 --> 02:10:11.760 I totally get even Zach if he spoke like if 2929 02:10:11.800 --> 02:10:14.359 he spoke like a retard, He's still zac Efron. 2930 02:10:14.439 --> 02:10:14.640 Dude. 2931 02:10:14.680 --> 02:10:17.239 I understand why women lose their ship over him. 2932 02:10:17.760 --> 02:10:18.640 He's gorgeous man. 2933 02:10:18.760 --> 02:10:22.039 There are certain actors that women truly think are just 2934 02:10:22.159 --> 02:10:24.920 like the ship and I just I've never seen it. 2935 02:10:24.960 --> 02:10:28.479 I mean, but I also like, obsessively love Tom Hardy, 2936 02:10:28.640 --> 02:10:29.960 and most people don't fuck. 2937 02:10:29.800 --> 02:10:33.000 With perfect example. Yeah, most women do not find him attracted. 2938 02:10:33.079 --> 02:10:36.119 I feel like that man just would you wouldn't be 2939 02:10:36.199 --> 02:10:41.600 right after that, Like he's he's just he's a force 2940 02:10:41.680 --> 02:10:43.920 to be wrecking with, all right, Like I'm won't be 2941 02:10:44.039 --> 02:10:45.159 really honest. 2942 02:10:44.960 --> 02:10:47.199 Like, oh my god, you might be the only woman 2943 02:10:47.199 --> 02:10:47.960 who feels this way. 2944 02:10:48.279 --> 02:10:51.800 I don't care. He's a good looking man. Just now 2945 02:10:51.840 --> 02:10:53.119 he looks rougher. 2946 02:10:54.319 --> 02:10:55.880 You're talking about when he was playing Baine. 2947 02:10:56.159 --> 02:10:57.760 That's the only one where you're talking. 2948 02:10:57.920 --> 02:11:00.520 No, there's no way you're talking about Solomon from Peaky 2949 02:11:00.560 --> 02:11:02.520 Blinders where he's a fat Jewish gangster. 2950 02:11:02.640 --> 02:11:03.880 There's no way that's you. 2951 02:11:03.520 --> 02:11:05.960 You know what, I probably honestly like, even if you 2952 02:11:06.039 --> 02:11:07.239 walked in the room, I'm like. 2953 02:11:07.159 --> 02:11:10.279 Fuck it, Like you're still trashy English accent. 2954 02:11:10.479 --> 02:11:11.800 He's still just gorgeous. 2955 02:11:12.039 --> 02:11:13.920 I just love him. I mean, that's just one of 2956 02:11:13.920 --> 02:11:16.560 those things. I mean, you know, everybody has a flavor. 2957 02:11:16.600 --> 02:11:19.479 I guess this is true, so is everyone's flavor. 2958 02:11:19.600 --> 02:11:23.880 So I mean, sure, Harry Cappell, who is who we're 2959 02:11:23.880 --> 02:11:24.399 talking about? 2960 02:11:24.720 --> 02:11:25.399 Big age? 2961 02:11:25.520 --> 02:11:28.359 But anyway, we got here, Yeah, we got way off 2962 02:11:28.399 --> 02:11:28.760 the track. 2963 02:11:29.000 --> 02:11:29.680 Oh my god. 2964 02:11:30.319 --> 02:11:32.439 I can only imagine what the haters are going to go. 2965 02:11:37.720 --> 02:11:39.960 I'll be honest with you, I have a type too, 2966 02:11:40.079 --> 02:11:42.640 But I'm actually really bummed out to hear about Chrissy 2967 02:11:42.680 --> 02:11:45.079 Tigue and being a disgusting human being. I thought she was. 2968 02:11:47.079 --> 02:11:49.079 What the fuck does her face got to do with me? 2969 02:11:51.079 --> 02:11:51.479 She is? 2970 02:11:51.520 --> 02:11:52.800 She is just psyched. 2971 02:11:52.880 --> 02:11:56.079 Before I knew about her being a pedal, I know, 2972 02:11:56.199 --> 02:12:00.760 and it's never She is completely funk to me now. 2973 02:12:01.199 --> 02:12:02.720 But if you would have talked to me about six 2974 02:12:02.800 --> 02:12:07.119 years ago, no, oh my god, Christy taking could have 2975 02:12:07.319 --> 02:12:07.840 got it. 2976 02:12:07.920 --> 02:12:11.039 Fuck the face, what don't we do with that? Have 2977 02:12:11.079 --> 02:12:16.119 you seen her curves? She'd or Ashley Graham. Oh my god, 2978 02:12:17.000 --> 02:12:19.640 she's the one that's considered a plus size model. 2979 02:12:19.960 --> 02:12:24.359 She's full figured and fucking a smoke show, by my 2980 02:12:24.960 --> 02:12:27.479 by my brain going, but you know whatever. 2981 02:12:27.439 --> 02:12:29.039 But it also blows mount how many dudes are like, 2982 02:12:29.079 --> 02:12:31.359 oh my god, did you know Taylor Swift has like 2983 02:12:31.359 --> 02:12:34.000 a two million dollar insurance policy on her legs And 2984 02:12:34.039 --> 02:12:36.720 it's like the fucking pale hot dogs? 2985 02:12:36.960 --> 02:12:37.359 What are we. 2986 02:12:41.319 --> 02:12:43.199 Had an insurance policy on her legs? And I can 2987 02:12:43.279 --> 02:12:43.920 understand that. 2988 02:12:44.039 --> 02:12:46.279 I don't. Those thighs were not thick. What are we 2989 02:12:46.279 --> 02:12:46.720 talking about? 2990 02:12:46.720 --> 02:12:48.560 Her thighs were thick as ship? 2991 02:12:48.800 --> 02:12:50.720 No they were not. They were they were muscle, but 2992 02:12:50.760 --> 02:12:51.399 they were thick. 2993 02:12:52.680 --> 02:12:56.119 They were actually technically thick. No muscle is still considered thick. 2994 02:12:56.199 --> 02:12:57.960 No, I'm sorry when I say thick, I was spelling 2995 02:12:57.960 --> 02:13:00.079 it with a Q. Muscle is not going to be So. 2996 02:13:00.079 --> 02:13:02.520 You're talking about like celly light and like fat. 2997 02:13:02.399 --> 02:13:03.000 I said thick? 2998 02:13:03.039 --> 02:13:04.760 Did I not us? 2999 02:13:06.039 --> 02:13:06.600 Excuse me? 3000 02:13:06.760 --> 02:13:12.439 Back to back to you know, satanic pedophile group, Hard Transition. 3001 02:13:12.239 --> 02:13:15.800 I guess and Cat Dinnings. 3002 02:13:15.800 --> 02:13:17.600 I think she's fucking hot as hell. I have no idea. 3003 02:13:17.600 --> 02:13:17.840 Who do? 3004 02:13:18.159 --> 02:13:18.680 Yeah? You do? 3005 02:13:18.960 --> 02:13:24.479 Okay, Nerdy chick from thor from the tooth Gap Girl. 3006 02:13:24.439 --> 02:13:27.560 Tooth Gap Girl with the massive tits, that's just charming 3007 02:13:27.600 --> 02:13:27.920 as hell. 3008 02:13:28.279 --> 02:13:30.600 The tooth Gap You're all like or. 3009 02:13:30.640 --> 02:13:33.520 Lily from the A T and T commercials, Oh my god, 3010 02:13:34.279 --> 02:13:36.600 she could she could get it. 3011 02:13:36.720 --> 02:13:39.520 We try to get back on a different over here. 3012 02:13:39.640 --> 02:13:42.920 Look, if you're gonna get hate for goggling all on dudes, here, 3013 02:13:43.000 --> 02:13:44.920 let me get some hate for goggling on women. 3014 02:13:45.000 --> 02:13:45.319 All right. 3015 02:13:45.399 --> 02:13:47.680 I talked about one guy, Tom Hardy, and now we'll 3016 02:13:47.720 --> 02:13:48.199 stand by that. 3017 02:13:48.359 --> 02:13:52.000 We went through a few there, big h big age. 3018 02:13:52.119 --> 02:13:52.800 Everybody loves. 3019 02:13:52.880 --> 02:13:55.199 Excuse me for trying to have your back and women. 3020 02:13:55.479 --> 02:13:59.399 Whatever I hate, I don't, I don't really care. Fuck 3021 02:13:59.479 --> 02:14:02.800 them is my big balls back here they are. 3022 02:14:04.680 --> 02:14:06.479 Sorry, brother, we're just kind of rambling here. 3023 02:14:06.520 --> 02:14:13.239 You're yeah, this is like our third podcast today, so 3024 02:14:13.239 --> 02:14:14.600 we're kind of like a hot mess. 3025 02:14:15.800 --> 02:14:18.920 I could understand. Actually it's my third today too. Yeah. 3026 02:14:18.920 --> 02:14:20.640 I went on Jewels to show this morning that I 3027 02:14:20.640 --> 02:14:22.960 had somebody on and now I'm yeah. 3028 02:14:23.640 --> 02:14:25.560 Yeah, So Bennice's booma for you. 3029 02:14:25.640 --> 02:14:31.079 It seems yeah, very busy, actually extremely Yeah. I also 3030 02:14:31.119 --> 02:14:32.720 have like I have like I have a bunch of 3031 02:14:32.960 --> 02:14:36.359 even like like three different book companies that have been 3032 02:14:36.399 --> 02:14:39.840 like sending me like authors, but like they're also well 3033 02:14:39.880 --> 02:14:40.920 known in the cold community. 3034 02:14:41.000 --> 02:14:42.640 So I've been lucky. I've been booking a lot of 3035 02:14:42.640 --> 02:14:45.239 them too. Ships. So I've just been busy. 3036 02:14:45.319 --> 02:14:49.119 Yeah, I got Wiser, Llewellen and UH and uh INN 3037 02:14:49.239 --> 02:14:52.439 traditions send me authors and then they said, now then 3038 02:14:52.520 --> 02:14:53.239 to send me the books. 3039 02:14:53.239 --> 02:14:56.920 That's all these books. You just go with it. Nice. 3040 02:14:57.520 --> 02:14:59.600 How did do you got reached out to buy them? 3041 02:14:59.680 --> 02:15:01.119 Or you used to? Alright, putting the feelers out and 3042 02:15:01.119 --> 02:15:02.239 then they were in. 3043 02:15:02.279 --> 02:15:07.840 The traditions hit me up first. Then I went to UH. 3044 02:15:08.279 --> 02:15:11.479 I hit up Wiser and asked them and they said sure, 3045 02:15:11.479 --> 02:15:16.399 they said, you've actually come across a feed recently, so 3046 02:15:16.520 --> 02:15:18.119 like you know, they knew who I was. 3047 02:15:18.960 --> 02:15:22.560 And then lou Ellen had hit me up. Lou Ellen. 3048 02:15:22.680 --> 02:15:23.640 Is that a promoter? 3049 02:15:24.399 --> 02:15:28.000 That's a huge company for Wiser and Louellen to play 3050 02:15:28.000 --> 02:15:30.920 some of the biggest publications for a cold book. 3051 02:15:31.439 --> 02:15:33.399 That I don't be I don't be reading, like. 3052 02:15:34.359 --> 02:15:36.680 Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, yeah, like yeah, you wouldn't know that. 3053 02:15:36.800 --> 02:15:38.760 Let's like you're in the like yeah, the community, I 3054 02:15:38.800 --> 02:15:44.239 got you. Yeah that's what's up. Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah, 3055 02:15:44.640 --> 02:15:45.159 very busy. 3056 02:15:45.399 --> 02:15:47.239 It's you know what the thing is to it works 3057 02:15:47.279 --> 02:15:50.119 out because like some of the people are like so 3058 02:15:50.319 --> 02:15:52.079 well known that it would be. You know, it's an 3059 02:15:52.119 --> 02:15:54.880 easy go between because like now the publish somebody hits 3060 02:15:54.880 --> 02:15:56.520 them up and says, hey, well, you know, why don't 3061 02:15:56.520 --> 02:15:58.439 you go on their show and promote your book? 3062 02:15:58.920 --> 02:15:59.119 You know. 3063 02:15:59.239 --> 02:16:00.920 So it kind of worked out of me because there's 3064 02:16:00.960 --> 02:16:02.560 been people that I've had on that I've tried to 3065 02:16:02.600 --> 02:16:04.159 contact myself and didn't answer me. 3066 02:16:04.600 --> 02:16:06.000 But then when the book company had. 3067 02:16:05.960 --> 02:16:10.479 Some month, hell yeah, I reached out to that. 3068 02:16:10.560 --> 02:16:13.319 I don't she has a book, but she has a 3069 02:16:13.319 --> 02:16:15.359 couple of books, but she's really hard to get a 3070 02:16:15.359 --> 02:16:17.640 hold of. I noticed that I saw other content creators 3071 02:16:17.680 --> 02:16:19.119 trying to get a hold of her, and she's just like, 3072 02:16:19.199 --> 02:16:21.560 am I I did hit up Roseanne though I'm. 3073 02:16:21.479 --> 02:16:24.680 Not Roseanne bar mm hm, oh shit, I wish. 3074 02:16:24.479 --> 02:16:26.840 I doubt it. I doubt it, but like I'm I 3075 02:16:27.000 --> 02:16:28.359 hit her up for the hell of it. I was like, 3076 02:16:28.359 --> 02:16:28.720 why not? 3077 02:16:28.920 --> 02:16:30.680 We had Tommy Chong on the show a couple of 3078 02:16:30.760 --> 02:16:35.920 years ago. Surprised answer, Yeah, yeah, a bit of a letdown. 3079 02:16:36.040 --> 02:16:37.159 I'm gonna be honest with you. 3080 02:16:37.200 --> 02:16:40.799 He's repeated a lot of the first Yeah. 3081 02:16:40.680 --> 02:16:42.879 And all you wanted to talk about as you're talking about, 3082 02:16:42.920 --> 02:16:45.840 you know, conspiracy things and some of the stuff that 3083 02:16:45.879 --> 02:16:48.000 he had as far as like him getting arrested for 3084 02:16:48.079 --> 02:16:50.760 the Boon Company whatever else. All he wanted to talk 3085 02:16:50.760 --> 02:16:54.399 about was the racism he experienced in Canada in the 3086 02:16:54.479 --> 02:17:00.280 sixties being half Asian. And I'm like, all right, but 3087 02:17:00.760 --> 02:17:03.600 I've never heard of such things, and yeah, it was, 3088 02:17:03.639 --> 02:17:03.920 it was. 3089 02:17:05.120 --> 02:17:07.760 It was a little bit of an underwhelming experience. I'm 3090 02:17:07.799 --> 02:17:08.639 gonna be honest with you. 3091 02:17:09.280 --> 02:17:11.440 I mean, listen, even if they're I mean, I don't know, 3092 02:17:11.440 --> 02:17:13.799 maybe I guess it's it could be real. But then 3093 02:17:13.799 --> 02:17:16.120 it's like it's hard for you to even like, oh 3094 02:17:16.200 --> 02:17:19.840 my heartstrings when you're as famous as you are. Ye, Like, 3095 02:17:20.120 --> 02:17:22.920 racism obviously really didn't fucking stop you from going where 3096 02:17:22.959 --> 02:17:23.239 you went. 3097 02:17:23.639 --> 02:17:27.799 No, and all the races and he experiences. 3098 02:17:26.719 --> 02:17:30.000 Like my parents and people after me will know who 3099 02:17:30.040 --> 02:17:31.360 the fuck Tommy Chong was. 3100 02:17:31.600 --> 02:17:34.200 But like all the racism, he claims, the experience didn't 3101 02:17:34.200 --> 02:17:37.239 stop him from singing the Beanner song on Cheech and Chong. 3102 02:17:37.319 --> 02:17:41.680 And it's like, you know, one of themselves, right, you know, 3103 02:17:41.959 --> 02:17:42.399 I don't know. 3104 02:17:42.799 --> 02:17:45.120 I'm hoping to get George Church on that. 3105 02:17:45.600 --> 02:17:51.600 They actually used stereotypes themselves. Yeah, but it's like you 3106 02:17:51.840 --> 02:17:55.920 really look at this ship. They played on stereotype. Honestly, 3107 02:17:55.920 --> 02:18:00.399 they might have created stereotypes that didn't exist technically. 3108 02:18:00.479 --> 02:18:03.639 Actually, but you need to say you but like look. 3109 02:18:03.479 --> 02:18:06.040 At their influencer. Yeah, let me come on, but. 3110 02:18:06.040 --> 02:18:08.159 You said George Church to get back to what you said. 3111 02:18:08.159 --> 02:18:11.680 So that's the guy that is mentioned on the Epstein files. 3112 02:18:12.000 --> 02:18:14.559 But he's also a geneticist. 3113 02:18:14.600 --> 02:18:14.959 Correct. 3114 02:18:15.319 --> 02:18:18.959 He's very very famous for he's like the pioneer for 3115 02:18:19.000 --> 02:18:23.200 fifty different companies when it comes to genetics, and not 3116 02:18:23.239 --> 02:18:27.120 just genetics but like genome sequencing. They're using one of 3117 02:18:27.120 --> 02:18:31.639 his companies as using uh, animal products like animal tissue 3118 02:18:31.680 --> 02:18:35.639 and stuff to create organs and things for humans. Another 3119 02:18:35.680 --> 02:18:39.000 one is doing biological bioweapon and kind of things. 3120 02:18:40.280 --> 02:18:41.879 Yeah, he's like really high up there. 3121 02:18:41.920 --> 02:18:43.600 I'm actually going to go down the list of the 3122 02:18:43.639 --> 02:18:46.040 scientists that worked with Epstein and I'm going to email 3123 02:18:46.120 --> 02:18:46.680 them all. 3124 02:18:48.920 --> 02:18:49.120 Like it. 3125 02:18:49.399 --> 02:18:50.959 I'm going to see if I can because they've been 3126 02:18:50.959 --> 02:18:56.520 going email. Yeah, they've they've been going on podcasts. Actually, 3127 02:18:56.799 --> 02:18:58.920 there's been quite a few of them. I've started to 3128 02:18:58.920 --> 02:19:01.520 look them up and they've actually been making their circuits. 3129 02:19:01.600 --> 02:19:03.479 Hey, doctor so and so, we said you on the 3130 02:19:03.520 --> 02:19:05.760 Epstein file. If you want to clear your name coming 3131 02:19:05.799 --> 02:19:08.079 to our conspiracy pod. I like, where your heads at, Raven. 3132 02:19:08.120 --> 02:19:09.760 I'm not going to show Drake one of them. 3133 02:19:10.959 --> 02:19:14.280 The name sounds familiar, Supert Shell, Drake showed up in 3134 02:19:14.280 --> 02:19:14.959 his files. 3135 02:19:15.360 --> 02:19:16.879 I'm trying to think of what she's famous for other 3136 02:19:16.920 --> 02:19:17.479 than the files. 3137 02:19:17.479 --> 02:19:19.399 I would like to tell telepathy tapes. 3138 02:19:19.440 --> 02:19:21.840 A lot of people don't to that, but okay, all 3139 02:19:21.840 --> 02:19:24.159 the things that he's much more into, Well. 3140 02:19:24.000 --> 02:19:27.200 There's a list of like people that he deemed like 3141 02:19:27.319 --> 02:19:31.000 the absolute best of each field, and they happen to 3142 02:19:31.040 --> 02:19:32.639 have emails. 3143 02:19:32.719 --> 02:19:34.959 And they happen to mostly all work for Harvard. 3144 02:19:35.399 --> 02:19:37.399 So I went to the Harvard list and I was like, 3145 02:19:37.440 --> 02:19:39.799 you know what, I'm just going to start emailing you 3146 02:19:39.879 --> 02:19:42.280 all and just see if we can because I don't 3147 02:19:42.280 --> 02:19:45.399 want to just ask them about Epstein. I genuinely want 3148 02:19:45.440 --> 02:19:48.559 to know what it is they're working on, because Epstein 3149 02:19:48.559 --> 02:19:52.120 gave over his DNA sequencing over and over and over 3150 02:19:52.239 --> 02:19:54.760 and over again and paid for it one hundred and 3151 02:19:54.799 --> 02:19:56.840 ninety three thousand a pop over. 3152 02:19:59.159 --> 02:20:03.280 Bro Yo look into MIT worked with Rupert Sheldric and 3153 02:20:03.360 --> 02:20:04.440 some project with MIT. 3154 02:20:04.760 --> 02:20:06.479 Oh, I've looked into the MIT thing. 3155 02:20:06.559 --> 02:20:08.440 Yeah, they're not going to reach out to us, like 3156 02:20:08.479 --> 02:20:09.840 come on now, all they have to do is come 3157 02:20:10.079 --> 02:20:13.040 look on our phones and they're gonna be like, mmm, no. 3158 02:20:13.760 --> 02:20:15.000 But I'm hoping. 3159 02:20:15.120 --> 02:20:16.319 Maybe the Harvard boys will. 3160 02:20:16.360 --> 02:20:19.040 Though some of the scientists have been going around and 3161 02:20:19.200 --> 02:20:21.399 have been having a lot of conversations in the last 3162 02:20:21.479 --> 02:20:23.600 few months, like no joke, Like the last six months, 3163 02:20:24.000 --> 02:20:27.000 Church has been on like twenty different pods. 3164 02:20:26.479 --> 02:20:28.719 And obviously they haven't talked about Epstein. 3165 02:20:28.760 --> 02:20:32.079 He talked about Epstein with sixty Minutes and with another group, 3166 02:20:32.479 --> 02:20:34.680 but he hasn't talked about Epstein. He's been talking about 3167 02:20:34.680 --> 02:20:36.760 all the other things that he's been doing, which at 3168 02:20:36.760 --> 02:20:39.959 this point, okay, if we don't talk about Epstein, we 3169 02:20:40.000 --> 02:20:42.520 all need to understand what the hell you've been doing 3170 02:20:43.000 --> 02:20:46.399 with the funding that Epstein gave you, because you've started 3171 02:20:46.639 --> 02:20:50.680 fifty separate companies in the last two decades. That is 3172 02:20:50.760 --> 02:20:55.200 all about advancing humans in every single direction possible. And 3173 02:20:55.239 --> 02:20:59.319 he's very intelligent, like he I don't it's one of 3174 02:20:59.319 --> 02:21:01.680 those things of like is he actually evil? 3175 02:21:03.159 --> 02:21:03.680 I don't know. 3176 02:21:03.920 --> 02:21:06.159 I can tell you that the way that he discussed things, 3177 02:21:06.360 --> 02:21:09.520 he sounds like he is hyper fixated on science to 3178 02:21:09.559 --> 02:21:12.440 the point of insanity to where like he'll do anything 3179 02:21:12.479 --> 02:21:14.319 to be able to strive, like to keep us. 3180 02:21:14.159 --> 02:21:16.319 Going the modern day Archimedes if. 3181 02:21:16.200 --> 02:21:19.159 You pretty much like the whole conversation Elon just had 3182 02:21:19.319 --> 02:21:22.879 about on the World Economic Forum saying like the whole 3183 02:21:22.879 --> 02:21:26.120 point is the human consciousness, and like he'll do anything 3184 02:21:26.159 --> 02:21:29.479 pretty much to save human consciousness. So like each one 3185 02:21:29.559 --> 02:21:32.799 of the scientists seem to be hyper fixating on different 3186 02:21:32.799 --> 02:21:36.159 parts of humanity and different parts of like Earth and 3187 02:21:36.239 --> 02:21:39.079 humans and this and that to try to like continue 3188 02:21:39.159 --> 02:21:43.399 us forward. So I don't know, I'm curious to see 3189 02:21:43.399 --> 02:21:44.879 if I can at least get one of them to 3190 02:21:45.159 --> 02:21:46.799 just come on and talk to us. 3191 02:21:46.760 --> 02:21:49.040 At least about what it is they're working on. 3192 02:21:49.479 --> 02:21:51.799 I would even I'll even tell him, Look, if we 3193 02:21:51.799 --> 02:21:53.959 don't have to talk about Epstein, if we could just 3194 02:21:54.040 --> 02:21:56.600 talk about the hell you doing so we could understand it, 3195 02:21:56.680 --> 02:22:00.399 that would be great, Like, but well, we'll see it. 3196 02:22:00.440 --> 02:22:02.760 We're not one of the science groups, so it's but 3197 02:22:02.879 --> 02:22:06.040 he did go on three podcasts that weren't science related, 3198 02:22:06.719 --> 02:22:10.959 so one was completely generated by an ai girls. 3199 02:22:11.239 --> 02:22:13.159 It was really strange, and he was. 3200 02:22:13.079 --> 02:22:15.479 Like apods that are coming out these. 3201 02:22:15.360 --> 02:22:18.520 Days interacting with it and it was very odd. 3202 02:22:18.559 --> 02:22:20.680 The whole thing was creepy, and he was just like 3203 02:22:21.120 --> 02:22:21.399 he was. 3204 02:22:21.479 --> 02:22:24.159 You could tell he was like weirdly uncomfortable, but also 3205 02:22:24.239 --> 02:22:26.799 he recognizes the AI is pushing forward, so it is 3206 02:22:27.280 --> 02:22:33.280 the whole thing was very odd to watch myself little planned. 3207 02:22:33.360 --> 02:22:33.840 If you will. 3208 02:22:33.920 --> 02:22:35.639 Yeah, I was actually wondering. I was like, because I've 3209 02:22:35.719 --> 02:22:36.479 just been scripted. 3210 02:22:38.120 --> 02:22:38.600 I don't know. 3211 02:22:38.719 --> 02:22:42.319 He seemed like he was genuinely like actually on air 3212 02:22:42.760 --> 02:22:45.440 answering questions. But it seemed to me that like that 3213 02:22:45.639 --> 02:22:48.319 it unless she's like really just that the way she 3214 02:22:48.399 --> 02:22:50.920 looks in the way the studio is, but she looked AI, 3215 02:22:51.040 --> 02:22:55.879 she sounded AI. It was very odd conversation. But yeah, no, 3216 02:22:56.000 --> 02:22:58.680 he's he's been on a bunch and so we'll see. 3217 02:22:58.760 --> 02:23:00.840 I mean, there's a lot of people, well, apparently other 3218 02:23:00.840 --> 02:23:04.879 people are reaching out to lower level watch them call 3219 02:23:04.920 --> 02:23:08.040 it celebrities that have been on that were mentioned slightly 3220 02:23:08.040 --> 02:23:10.600 in the Epstein files, and they're apparently trying to clear 3221 02:23:10.639 --> 02:23:14.479 their names. So they're actually accepting going on to podcasts 3222 02:23:14.520 --> 02:23:14.920 as well. 3223 02:23:15.319 --> 02:23:16.719 I mean, that's very smart of them. 3224 02:23:16.719 --> 02:23:18.799 If they got nothing to hide, now would be the 3225 02:23:18.799 --> 02:23:21.120 time to make your rounds and try to get ahead. 3226 02:23:20.920 --> 02:23:21.399 Of the story. 3227 02:23:21.600 --> 02:23:23.159 Mm hmm, yep. 3228 02:23:23.719 --> 02:23:25.600 I know a lot of people talk about like RFK 3229 02:23:26.079 --> 02:23:29.639 for instance, right RFK Junior, and feel however you want 3230 02:23:29.680 --> 02:23:33.079 about him, But he knew who Epstein was, and he 3231 02:23:33.159 --> 02:23:36.440 knew eventually shit was going to come to light years ago. 3232 02:23:37.120 --> 02:23:39.000 He got ahead of the story. And he's like, listen, 3233 02:23:39.040 --> 02:23:41.079 you're gonna see my name on the flight logs twice. 3234 02:23:41.399 --> 02:23:42.079 Here's why. 3235 02:23:42.239 --> 02:23:43.920 From here to here, I flew on his plane, and 3236 02:23:43.920 --> 02:23:46.159 from here to here, if fluent his plane, and that's it. 3237 02:23:46.239 --> 02:23:48.959 And so many people were like, he's on the flight logs. 3238 02:23:48.959 --> 02:23:51.639 He's eveall like wait, wait, wait, wait, y'all understand he 3239 02:23:51.840 --> 02:23:54.200 just told you everything to get ahead of it. And 3240 02:23:54.239 --> 02:23:56.639 if he lied, when these files come out, you'll see 3241 02:23:56.639 --> 02:23:58.639 his name more times and you can fry him alive. 3242 02:23:59.120 --> 02:24:00.840 But if these files come out and you only see 3243 02:24:00.840 --> 02:24:04.120 it twice, you understand he very well might be the 3244 02:24:04.159 --> 02:24:07.479 only politician to be that honest about it from day 3245 02:24:07.559 --> 02:24:10.079 one and get ahead of the story before it drops. 3246 02:24:10.520 --> 02:24:12.040 Feel how you want about him, But it sounds like 3247 02:24:12.079 --> 02:24:13.760 your boy really had nothing to hide. 3248 02:24:14.479 --> 02:24:14.920 I don't know. 3249 02:24:15.120 --> 02:24:17.319 He sounds like he's like having to speak through gravel, 3250 02:24:17.319 --> 02:24:19.440 and I feel actually really bad for him because apparently 3251 02:24:19.520 --> 02:24:21.000 it's like super painful to talk. 3252 02:24:21.280 --> 02:24:23.559 Yeah, and I'm like, wh how did you get it in, politician? 3253 02:24:23.719 --> 02:24:25.280 Like you had to talk all the time. 3254 02:24:25.680 --> 02:24:27.479 Yeah, And I mean, don't get me wrong, it's also 3255 02:24:27.600 --> 02:24:29.920 not the best look that he sent dick pics to 3256 02:24:30.000 --> 02:24:33.520 his aid. But I mean, also, he's like seventy and 3257 02:24:33.559 --> 02:24:36.680 he's built like that, and he's working out in Jane still, Like, 3258 02:24:36.719 --> 02:24:40.600 I mean, he's getting it in, you know, I. 3259 02:24:40.520 --> 02:24:43.520 Mean men, men tend to send unsolicited diculations. 3260 02:24:43.639 --> 02:24:44.479 No what nuns solicited? 3261 02:24:45.079 --> 02:24:46.159 Oh? Oh no, no, she. 3262 02:24:46.239 --> 02:24:49.200 Wanted it, so it was consensual. Yeah, okay, then what 3263 02:24:49.239 --> 02:24:50.000 are we talking about. 3264 02:24:50.280 --> 02:24:52.719 Apparently it's a really bad look that he sent dick 3265 02:24:52.760 --> 02:24:54.879 pics to one of his employees. 3266 02:24:56.040 --> 02:24:57.600 On the media, doesn't they're. 3267 02:24:57.360 --> 02:25:00.559 Both consensual adults and like that she REQUI us of these, 3268 02:25:00.639 --> 02:25:03.120 then there's that's a completely dead issue. 3269 02:25:03.920 --> 02:25:07.000 Not according to the news. Good god, they tried flaming 3270 02:25:07.040 --> 02:25:07.440 him alive. 3271 02:25:07.479 --> 02:25:09.559 And he's also like yeah and. 3272 02:25:11.559 --> 02:25:15.200 Fuck, like I know, but she. 3273 02:25:15.280 --> 02:25:16.399 Fucking asked for him. 3274 02:25:16.399 --> 02:25:18.319 And have you seen the size of my hog? 3275 02:25:19.200 --> 02:25:19.520 You know what? 3276 02:25:20.440 --> 02:25:20.959 Good for you? 3277 02:25:21.079 --> 02:25:23.719 RFK Junior, Hey fucking get it in, dude, He's doing 3278 02:25:23.719 --> 02:25:26.719 full squats with jeans on like a total like granddad, 3279 02:25:26.760 --> 02:25:28.959 like getting after it. It's like, you know what, what 3280 02:25:29.000 --> 02:25:31.120 are you gonna say to the man he's out here 3281 02:25:31.280 --> 02:25:32.079 in these streets. 3282 02:25:32.840 --> 02:25:38.040 It's like shof right now, yo, speaking of Oh my god, 3283 02:25:38.120 --> 02:25:39.399 crazy crazy shit. 3284 02:25:39.559 --> 02:25:43.399 So the girl, well, so all right, Shilah buff. 3285 02:25:43.159 --> 02:25:46.559 Got to rest in New Orleans during dude, the chick 3286 02:25:46.680 --> 02:25:50.799 that bailed him out. We were party with her all 3287 02:25:50.959 --> 02:25:53.959 day at Marti gral There's a picture of her in 3288 02:25:54.040 --> 02:25:56.159 this whole white get up she's wearing with his crazy 3289 02:25:56.200 --> 02:25:56.600 knit hat. 3290 02:25:56.680 --> 02:25:58.920 It's a little like Marty gral nit hat. She was 3291 02:25:58.959 --> 02:25:59.920 with us. 3292 02:25:59.680 --> 02:26:02.840 She was wearing these crazy yellow sunglasses. I even was 3293 02:26:02.920 --> 02:26:04.600 joking with her earlier in the day about how jealous 3294 02:26:04.600 --> 02:26:07.360 I was of her sunglasses. She's the one that actually 3295 02:26:07.399 --> 02:26:10.120 paid Shilahbove's bail, and then as soon as he got out, 3296 02:26:10.200 --> 02:26:12.840 he gave her triple the money back as a thank. 3297 02:26:12.639 --> 02:26:14.920 You, and then they went out and got fucking shit wrecked. 3298 02:26:14.959 --> 02:26:16.520 And it's like, you know what, Okay. 3299 02:26:16.600 --> 02:26:18.200 I was like when I saw a picture, I'm like, 3300 02:26:18.360 --> 02:26:21.120 holy shit, it's the girl that we were with all day. 3301 02:26:21.360 --> 02:26:23.559 God, if I would have known I would have known, 3302 02:26:24.959 --> 02:26:27.200 but you have to understand there's thousands of people. 3303 02:26:27.319 --> 02:26:31.360 So the odes inness is just crazy, yeah, crazy. 3304 02:26:31.479 --> 02:26:34.600 The fact that we stood all together for the entire 3305 02:26:34.760 --> 02:26:37.799 Zulu parade and then she was with us for a 3306 02:26:37.799 --> 02:26:39.360 little bit of the Rex Parade. 3307 02:26:39.319 --> 02:26:40.639 And then dipped out and stuff. 3308 02:26:40.680 --> 02:26:43.479 But like we were with her the entire morning, like 3309 02:26:43.520 --> 02:26:46.280 for four hours, five hours, so it was crazy to 3310 02:26:46.319 --> 02:26:48.719 see her. But then Shilah was out here just running 3311 02:26:48.760 --> 02:26:51.399 them streets shirtless, having a whole time. 3312 02:26:51.639 --> 02:26:52.040 Everyone. 3313 02:26:52.159 --> 02:26:55.239 The comment section is absolutely hilarious right now because the 3314 02:26:55.440 --> 02:26:59.000 ex ex girlfriend, wife or whoever wants him to go 3315 02:26:59.040 --> 02:27:03.719 into treatment and all of like Tiger Country's like he's lost. 3316 02:27:03.440 --> 02:27:06.200 To the Tiger now, like he's one of us. 3317 02:27:06.280 --> 02:27:08.559 Now he's just in them streets and it's like, oh yeah, 3318 02:27:08.559 --> 02:27:11.000 I know New Orleans ain't given him back at this point, 3319 02:27:11.040 --> 02:27:13.399 he's now been officially adopted into the crew. 3320 02:27:13.680 --> 02:27:16.440 I mean, you get arrested at Marti Gras with throwing 3321 02:27:16.479 --> 02:27:17.200 a few hands. 3322 02:27:17.239 --> 02:27:20.760 I mean, look, you in the culture. 3323 02:27:21.319 --> 02:27:21.559 You know. 3324 02:27:21.760 --> 02:27:24.920 I will say, I'm still happy that wn't any every 3325 02:27:24.959 --> 02:27:26.280 gunshots this year. 3326 02:27:26.159 --> 02:27:27.280 None that was legit. 3327 02:27:28.120 --> 02:27:29.799 I went to ten parades and I didn't hear any 3328 02:27:30.040 --> 02:27:30.719 that's amazing. 3329 02:27:30.879 --> 02:27:33.479 Honestly, the odds were very much in our favor this year. 3330 02:27:33.639 --> 02:27:37.799 So anyway, Nick brother, I want to thank you for 3331 02:27:37.840 --> 02:27:38.840 coming on the show this year. 3332 02:27:38.920 --> 02:27:40.680 Hell yeah, I do thank you for inviting me. Man, 3333 02:27:40.680 --> 02:27:41.600 those are bliss for. 3334 02:27:41.559 --> 02:27:43.600 Anybody who has never heard of you and doesn't know 3335 02:27:43.600 --> 02:27:46.479 where to find your content. Please give yourself all the 3336 02:27:46.520 --> 02:27:48.159 shameless plugs at this time, brother. 3337 02:27:48.200 --> 02:27:48.520 Thank you. 3338 02:27:49.239 --> 02:27:52.239 Uh yeah, the cult rejects on Bitch, Shoot, Rumble, YouTube 3339 02:27:52.280 --> 02:27:55.040 and old major podcasts. And we do have a cult 3340 02:27:55.200 --> 02:27:58.559 research Institute dot org. That's a website with a bunch 3341 02:27:58.559 --> 02:28:00.360 of information from a bunch of different people. 3342 02:28:00.840 --> 02:28:02.840 So go check that out. It's pretty interesting if you 3343 02:28:02.959 --> 02:28:04.479 like to read. It's definitely worth it. 3344 02:28:04.680 --> 02:28:06.680 You say, a cult institute. 3345 02:28:06.559 --> 02:28:10.079 A cult institute research dot dot org. 3346 02:28:10.799 --> 02:28:12.760 Okay, nice, Okay, I'm writing it down. 3347 02:28:13.719 --> 02:28:18.959 Could research Institute dot org? Yes? Right, yes, indeed. 3348 02:28:19.600 --> 02:28:21.639 Well, for all the cult members that were let to 3349 02:28:21.680 --> 02:28:23.600 go check him and all of his content out, please 3350 02:28:23.639 --> 02:28:26.399 do so. Hit him up on all the socials occult rejects. 3351 02:28:26.479 --> 02:28:29.639 They're very easy to find. 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