WEBVTT 1 00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:34.840 Welcome to episode five fifty eight of five and five. 2 00:00:35.560 --> 00:00:38.399 It is Monday, June twenty ninth. I am your host 3 00:00:38.640 --> 00:00:42.320 once again, Grett Goldstein, joined as usual by Patrick Dubuke 4 00:00:42.759 --> 00:00:45.119 and Jeffrey pattern Nostro. I'd like to thank you both 5 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:48.719 for your hosting duties while I was out of town. 6 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:52.920 I have informed you now where I was. It was not, 7 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:56.600 it was not I don't blame Zach. I like to 8 00:00:56.640 --> 00:01:00.719 thank Zach and Colin very very much for filling in, 9 00:01:01.679 --> 00:01:07.719 especially Colin on just bombing the game. That was a 10 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:11.599 beautiful I want to be clear. I think Colin did 11 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:14.519 that as a tribute to me. I I'm not judging 12 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:16.120 his skills. I liked it. 13 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:19.239 I like how losing to me for too is bombing 14 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:20.920 the game? Well, it was. 15 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:23.159 It was a movie. It was like, this is something 16 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:26.920 you should know. It was also, as you noted at 17 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:29.200 the top of the episode, or he noted at the 18 00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:31.319 top of the episode, he was like, oh, you've asked 19 00:01:31.319 --> 00:01:33.879 me a question. My mind has gone completely blank. I 20 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:39.599 have nothing for you. Anyway. UH. I was in in Willa, 21 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:42.959 which is a place. It is in the UH. I 22 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:44.680 don't know if people know about this. I did not 23 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:47.840 know about this until my wife found it. It is 24 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:53.040 in the Lesser Antilles in the West Indies. That's all 25 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:55.000 I got for you. You can start googling. You can 26 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:55.879 start googling from the. 27 00:01:56.200 --> 00:02:00.200 Yeah, my geography is terrible, but I only remember out 28 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:02.959 there Puerto Rico, I think. 29 00:02:03.400 --> 00:02:05.400 Yeah, I always hear about the Lesser Antillies, like during 30 00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:08.319 hurricane seats on something that's forming out by the Lesser Antilles. 31 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:15.080 That's right, Yes, that's to blame for everything. Yeah, So 32 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:17.759 I'd like to thank you all and and both of 33 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:21.319 them for for keeping things going while I was out. 34 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:23.479 I have no idea what the hell happened last week, 35 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:27.280 so this will be a fun episode. I will say. 36 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:29.919 The last thing I'll say on the basis of my 37 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.919 vacation is uh. People have asked me how it was. 38 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:37.400 You know, there are two kids there, so it's it's 39 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:39.360 not restorative. This is what I would say. 40 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:43.560 It was nice And for those kind of. 41 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:45.479 I have a full as you guys know, I have 42 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:49.280 a full album of my three year olds splayed fully 43 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:51.280 out on the floor in public places. 44 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:55.520 Yes, so it's a it's it's a good it's a 45 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:56.960 good bit good. 46 00:02:57.800 --> 00:03:01.080 I was really mad and that around like the fifth picture, 47 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:02.879 I was like, this is actually pretty funny. 48 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:07.000 Like my German Phoe wife was horrified. 49 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:12.319 Oh, in the airport is a good place for that. 50 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:17.199 My my wife was who he's extremely attached to at 51 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:21.800 the moment. It was extremely annoyed every time, and I 52 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:23.840 understand why she is more patience than I do. I 53 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:26.400 was also annoyed, but every time I went to take 54 00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:28.840 a picture, she would laugh, and I was like, okay, 55 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:30.319 so it is a it is a good bit, Like 56 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:33.639 it is extremely annoying, but also it's pretty fun. 57 00:03:33.639 --> 00:03:35.840 And they also seems like he's more attached to the floor. 58 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:41.479 When he's not attached to his mother. Yeah, any banter 59 00:03:41.719 --> 00:03:43.000 on your ends. 60 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:45.800 So, in the words of Craig, I had a family 61 00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:50.039 member's birthday over the weekend birthday party. So while I 62 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:55.639 was coming back with so much leftover capristan and fruit 63 00:03:55.680 --> 00:03:59.120 snacks and unloading the car and trying to figure out 64 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:01.800 where I'm going to put all all the stuff that 65 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:06.719 said family member got for their birthday, our neighbor across 66 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:09.639 the street who I've talked seems nice. I've talked to 67 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:12.280 I think once since we've lived here, like on Halloween 68 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:15.439 when we were trick or treating comes over and I'm 69 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:18.639 like not, I just go in. I'm carrying huge boxes 70 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:21.480 of fruit snacks and caprisa and the cooler and whatever. 71 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:24.720 When I come back out and my wife is gone, 72 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:26.120 and I see that she's across the street with the 73 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:31.319 neighbor and then starts coming back with just stuff. So 74 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:34.600 the neighbor, I remember the neighborhood had a yard sale, 75 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:37.639 maybe like last weekend or the weekend before, and the 76 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:40.639 stuff they didn't get rid of, like just pulsy wood. 77 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:43.079 Your child like this, and it's free stuff, so of 78 00:04:43.079 --> 00:04:46.000 course my child would. So it comes back with a scooter, 79 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:48.279 a bluey place at and a doll and I'm like, 80 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:52.160 which is fine, that's very nice of her. I like, 81 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:54.839 I don't have places to work the stuff I got. 82 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:57.120 I'm already like going through my head, like where am 83 00:04:57.160 --> 00:04:58.560 I going to put this in her room? There's like 84 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:01.480 a giant plastic in among other things. 85 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:03.199 Does the even get played with? 86 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:08.120 Oh yeah, that's how you saw that came out of 87 00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:12.120 the oven already. So it was just very much like 88 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:13.800 why why are we doing this right now? 89 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:19.000 I will tell you I very unsuccessfully tried to implement 90 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:20.399 a one in one out policy. 91 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:23.360 Yeah, yeah, tough cell. 92 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:29.360 The grandparents did not take that. I said, I don't care, 93 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:33.240 get it, just take something back. Yeah, I don't want 94 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:35.360 that stuff. And I said, now you know how I feel. 95 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:41.680 I also don't want that stuff. All right. My weekend 96 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:42.199 pretty late. 97 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:47.199 I I posted about this, but I spent one of 98 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:49.079 the days of the weekend I can't remember which, Saturday, 99 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:53.399 I think, sitting in a trampoline park reading Clockworcorne. 100 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:56.720 And that's that. That summarized my weekend. 101 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:01.240 Yeah, I'm not kind of I'm not gonna bore everyone 102 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:04.000 with my feelings about clockwork garngs, which are stronger than 103 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:04.879 I expected them to be. 104 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:06.519 Did not enjoy it? 105 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:08.720 Have you not read clockhord Goarrange the book before? 106 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:11.079 No, I've never I've never heard. I watched the movie. 107 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:13.560 Yeah. Sure, it's like that's the book you kind of 108 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:15.319 have to read when you're seventeen years old. 109 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:18.199 Yeah, oh I do. On a movie note, I do 110 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:21.079 want to. I think this will annoy I don't know, 111 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:25.600 this will probably annoy somebody. But I again, traveling with 112 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:28.759 the children, you get interrupted a lot. But there was 113 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:33.360 the hill Mary project on the plane new release, and 114 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:35.519 I thought, oh, I'm I never get to a movie 115 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:38.040 theater so like, and people say, this is good. I'm 116 00:06:38.079 --> 00:06:41.759 gonna I'm gonna try it. I got I got to 117 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:46.120 about ten minutes left in the movie and we start landing. 118 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:50.120 They're talking NonStop, so it interrupts the movie. I just 119 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:52.360 haven't seen the last ten minutes of what was a 120 00:06:52.519 --> 00:06:56.079 very very good movie for me anyway. But I don't 121 00:06:56.079 --> 00:06:58.439 know that I'll ever see it. Yeah, I might just never. 122 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:03.439 I don't will because like it was streaming eventually, like 123 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:06.360 short fine for free. But like I think, Patrick, I 124 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:10.279 talked to you about you can get it for six bucks, 125 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:12.040 and I'm like, I'm not spending six bucks on the 126 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:13.000 pretend the movie. 127 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:16.680 Yeah, that's thirty six dollars per hour. That's I'm not 128 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:19.759 doing that. I it was, I had a great time. 129 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:21.360 I would love to know what happened. 130 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:22.000 I might just not. 131 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:25.959 I mean, you can't think of you can't know what happened. Fair. 132 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:29.079 I do think I might just make a habit of again. 133 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:32.079 I watched Dune on on my phone on a plane 134 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:36.079 as again as as any intended. I might just start 135 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:40.680 doing this and just doing feature you know, big big 136 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:42.319 feature films on. 137 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:44.519 Planes and I certainly reached an age where I just 138 00:07:44.759 --> 00:07:48.759 don't watch movies in movie order, and you know, in 139 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:53.439 a sense of time, right right, I'm a half hour 140 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:56.480 to come and see Still it's been two weeks. 141 00:07:56.839 --> 00:08:00.519 Well we saw we saw five for the birthday, for 142 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:02.519 part of the birthday. It's like it's more than a 143 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:05.480 one day celebration. 144 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:07.199 Because yeah, yeah, but when. 145 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:09.360 Its not Toy Serve. I did not have like particularly 146 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:11.480 high the first thing I did, we were going to 147 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:13.439 see Toy Surf, Like, okay, how I look up how 148 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:15.240 long is this? And it's one hundred and two minutes. 149 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:17.600 I'm like, I fine, it's not that bad. I was 150 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:20.399 worried to me like two hours and ten minutes or something, right, 151 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:23.319 because the longer these the more you get deeper. I 152 00:08:23.319 --> 00:08:25.079 feel like, get into sequels for something. Just keep making 153 00:08:25.079 --> 00:08:28.120 the movies longer. But it was, it was there were 154 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:30.079 a lot of balls in the air plot wise, more 155 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:32.960 than I expected. But that that was a really good movie. 156 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:35.360 Like it was actually legitimately a very good movie. But 157 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:37.360 like I was trying to think, like have I seen 158 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:40.320 like I know, I've seen one and two in their entirety? 159 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:42.799 Have I seen three and four and I'm like, yes, 160 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:45.559 I have, just not in order or at the same time, 161 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:47.919 like I've walked into the room and the kids in 162 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:50.919 like twenty I see like the middle thirty minutes of 163 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:54.399 Toy Story three or something, right, and then like remember 164 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:56.600 a week later because she watches them over and over again, 165 00:08:56.679 --> 00:09:02.480 I think I've seen three, Like I'm it's entirety, but yeah, 166 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:03.039 I don't if you. 167 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:05.480 If you saw four, you could easily have forgotten. 168 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:10.679 Speaking of movies where there's so many and just watched it. 169 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:15.000 There was a twelve minute presented by Minions something on 170 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:17.240 one of the screens, and you just watch that like 171 00:09:17.799 --> 00:09:24.279 four sometimes, yeah, like in a row, just for sure. Yeah, 172 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:27.720 the mind reels. All right, let's get into the show. 173 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:31.639 We'll get into our first segment. Because we are a 174 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:34.120 Mets podcast. It's nice to be welcome back with the 175 00:09:34.159 --> 00:09:37.840 warm hug. Yeah, no, Jeff, we're looking at the Mets. 176 00:09:38.039 --> 00:09:38.919 Yeah, we have to. 177 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:42.960 We have to have no choice. They're drawing attention to themselves. 178 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:48.320 They have fired Carlos Mendoza. Yes, Andy Green is the 179 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:53.559 interim manager. I just my my question on this is 180 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:57.480 really and I know I know the answer in a way, 181 00:09:57.600 --> 00:10:01.120 but I still think like, why didn't this happen when 182 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:02.559 Rob Thompson. 183 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:04.879 And Alex score fire. 184 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:07.360 I don't know, like that was the time. 185 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:07.879 I don't know. 186 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:11.559 It seems like stubbornness. It seemed like not willing. 187 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:14.279 I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if it's so 188 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:19.200 this I think, God, I've talked about this for months 189 00:10:19.240 --> 00:10:20.840 on for all your kids. I just did it again 190 00:10:21.720 --> 00:10:28.519 twice since it's happened. I think the funny to say 191 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:30.080 the Red Sox can do this. The Red Sox have 192 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:35.159 had similar tumultuous tumult in their organization. 193 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:37.080 Or the last Red Sox. No. 194 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:41.480 Yeah, but like Dave Dombrowski can do this in part 195 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:44.200 because he's done it before and it worked, and also 196 00:10:44.240 --> 00:10:47.600 in part just because no one's gonna look at the 197 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:51.440 Phillies and be like, work there. They can't, like they 198 00:10:51.519 --> 00:10:54.519 just there's no job security. But you look at the mats, right, 199 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:57.960 who have you know? Showalter made it two seasons, Louis 200 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:01.399 Rojas made it two seasons, three seasons. The hir for 201 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:03.480 twenty nineteen, I don't know. The hire of four twenty 202 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:07.440 twenty was right after the Astros stuff came out. They've 203 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:10.080 had something like five heads of baseball operations in the 204 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:13.360 last six years. So at a certain point it becomes 205 00:11:14.679 --> 00:11:16.960 difficult to hire the next guy if you keep firing 206 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:18.919 the previous guy after this is Yeah. 207 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:22.639 I read Sheian's newsletter on this. Yeah, and he noted 208 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:24.240 the Mets have had four managers in eight and a 209 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:28.120 half seasons. Yeah, I mean, and Mendoza's two and a 210 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:30.679 half are the longest. Yes. 211 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:33.559 And Tim Britton made this point about sort of their 212 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:36.600 heads of baseball ops too, and why Sterns might be 213 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:40.919 safer than you might think, because again they haven't you know, 214 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:43.399 before Sterns, they had Epler for two years, before Eppler, 215 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.840 they had various and assorted people for various short periods 216 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:49.360 of time, with Sandy Alderson always sort of there as well. 217 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:54.759 But I mean, this is a bad baseball team playing bad, 218 00:11:55.679 --> 00:12:01.799 and I don't think Mendoza is I'm merrily responsible for 219 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:04.159 them being whatever it is now. I was twelve when 220 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:06.639 he was fired. I think twelve games under five hundred. 221 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:11.720 But Jared's made this point, what is the affirmative case 222 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:14.200 for keeping Carlos Mendoza, Because no one has made it. 223 00:12:14.519 --> 00:12:15.559 I don't think there is one. 224 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:17.919 There isn't one like there's. 225 00:12:17.320 --> 00:12:21.320 No one embarrassed about a prior decision, right, right, I 226 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:24.639 mean that's really to me, that's what it scans. 227 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:26.519 As, right, So like there's a whole thing like, well, 228 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:29.080 they there's what I'm thinking, like, well, they turned over 229 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:32.480 the roster too much, like, well, that's the manager's job 230 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:36.159 to deal, like to bring the new roster to get Like, 231 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:38.799 I don't know what's going on behind the scenes. The 232 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:42.759 defenses of Mendoza from like Lindor and Soto after the 233 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:44.879 after he was fired, we're pretty tapid. They're like, yeah, 234 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:46.720 it's not his fault, we need to play better, like 235 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:51.799 basic boiler plate stuff. And they collapsed down the stretch 236 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:54.240 with a completely different roster. So this has happened like 237 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:57.000 twice now under him. At a certain point, like you're 238 00:12:57.000 --> 00:12:59.240 basically saying you can never fire a manager or the 239 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:02.120 manager's or the or why do you need a manager? 240 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:07.600 The manager is not responsible for anything apparently, So yeah, 241 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:09.960 and look the Phillies fired their manager in their ten 242 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:12.399 games or five hundred, now, right, I think I think 243 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:15.360 I don't, but I. 244 00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:17.919 Think you can say it's not entirely Mendoza's fault with 245 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:20.159 all the roster turnover. It is his job. But also 246 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:23.000 that is hard, right, that is and I look, I 247 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:26.000 say all the time about the front office, like you're 248 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:27.759 there to do hard things. You're supposed to be good 249 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:31.039 at what you do. That's not an excuse necessarily. But 250 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:34.919 I think you can say, look, he's he had a 251 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:38.720 lot to deal with and even people better than himself 252 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:40.080 might not have made something. 253 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:41.799 Of it, right, And there's been a lot of injuries, 254 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:44.320 like Soto and Lindora barely played together this year. 255 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:49.519 But but but yeah, all that being said, what as 256 00:13:49.559 --> 00:13:53.000 you said, what is man? What is the affirmative case? 257 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:54.960 And the stuff that I have been able to say, 258 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:55.600 he is not. 259 00:13:55.600 --> 00:13:59.559 A good reason even if they're not excuses. We can 260 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:02.720 provide reasons right and say like, okay, this is the 261 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:09.000 but but it seemed abundantly clear he wasn't the guy, right. 262 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:13.320 He wasn't the guy to come out the other side 263 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:18.120 and say like and and when this is all it 264 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:22.960 all ever, stops being tumultuous, right, say it was worth 265 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:25.080 it to hold on to him because he can he 266 00:14:25.159 --> 00:14:27.759 can really lead us into this next era. That wasn't 267 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:30.320 that It seemed abundantly clear that wasn't the. 268 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:34.720 Case, right, And that it's very telling that the second game. Look, 269 00:14:34.759 --> 00:14:36.600 I'm sure more because it's a mats and the Met's 270 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:38.679 actually leak a lot less than they used to, especially 271 00:14:38.679 --> 00:14:42.840 compared to Boston. I think we'll eventually get more, you know, 272 00:14:42.960 --> 00:14:45.600 behind the scenes stories on this, maybe not in season, 273 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:47.799 and that actually happened here. It was very telling to me. 274 00:14:47.840 --> 00:14:50.639 The second game, Andy Green was in charge, Christian Scott 275 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:53.679 faced exactly eighteen batters, got pulled in the middle of 276 00:14:53.720 --> 00:14:55.919 the inning and they had a lefty ready for Harper 277 00:14:55.960 --> 00:14:58.159 and like Mendoza just wouldn't do that. He would have 278 00:14:58.200 --> 00:14:59.440 kept him in for five to give them a chance 279 00:14:59.480 --> 00:15:02.440 to get the like very basic stuff that I that 280 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:07.919 I think probably was even being a communicated him by 281 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:10.080 the front office or he was given the information to 282 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:13.240 work with this, but he just wasn't following the program. 283 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:17.960 And like, look, it's fine to do that if you win, right, 284 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:20.840 but once if you're not winning, like they're like, what 285 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:21.799 are you? What are you doing? 286 00:15:21.799 --> 00:15:25.080 Man? There's there's I mean, look, you can lay and 287 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:28.360 people have and I have. Dave Roberts went through a 288 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:33.600 lot of issues, right, but he was so good on 289 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:36.759 the right I don't and was good. 290 00:15:36.799 --> 00:15:37.240 I don't know. 291 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:39.240 I don't know, but he wasn't good. 292 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:42.919 Enough, right, Like, there's not a lot of again you 293 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:46.559 don't really see like again, this was a this team 294 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:49.080 the end of last year, and certainly a large runk 295 00:15:49.080 --> 00:15:51.840 of this season has like the Dodgers won, yeah, but 296 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:54.960 they've played like they are poorly coached. Base running errors, 297 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:59.399 fielding errors like Mark Biento's blowing through stop signs and 298 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:01.320 just starting them next day. Like there did not seem 299 00:16:01.399 --> 00:16:04.000 to be a lot of like Marcus Semien just playing 300 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:05.639 every day even though he was dealing with a hip 301 00:16:05.639 --> 00:16:07.279 flex and he's out for six weeks now, but he 302 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:08.759 was like playing with it for a month because he's 303 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:12.080 Marcus Semian. And look, I understand they wanted to bring 304 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:15.679 in a different Uh, it's like very football coach there, 305 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:17.360 and they wanted to bring a different type of manager 306 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:22.080 after Showalter, but like it just it wasn't working. Like 307 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:25.000 it worked for exactly three months basically, right. 308 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:28.399 Well, And I think, look, I get a little I 309 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:32.200 recognize I get a little both sides on this because 310 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:37.320 I'm now criticizing Mendoza not being fired when Thompson and 311 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:41.120 Cora were. But I also at that time I would say, like, 312 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:43.080 you're not that far into the season, Like, it's a 313 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:46.759 little embarrassing to me that you had to fire them then, 314 00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:53.120 because really like what happened in the option, but even 315 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:56.000 at the time, we were saying, like this is probably 316 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:58.320 Mendoza's coming next. 317 00:16:58.440 --> 00:17:00.720 Wait, well we said this on the pod right after that, 318 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:03.600 like this is the one button you can push, right, 319 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:06.599 Like you can push this the button you can the 320 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:10.759 one button you can push in like mid May, you 321 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:15.559 can't trade, you can claim Austin Slater, you can sign 322 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:22.000 Chris Paddock, apparently if you need to pitch it. Yeah, 323 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:25.839 but yeah, if you need to put a you know, 324 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:29.359 a boot up the ass, so to say, so to speak, 325 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:32.200 And like it obviously hasn't happened for Boston, and there's 326 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:34.200 other stuff going on behind the scenes with Cora in 327 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:38.279 the front office and ownership there for Beers, and it 328 00:17:38.319 --> 00:17:41.200 has worked for for Philly. 329 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:45.759 And we would also note, as we did, like the 330 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:48.559 the Phillies did this ahead of a soft spot in 331 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:49.079 the sketule. 332 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:51.039 And look, they might have still a little bit of 333 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:53.440 by in does but they also might have they might 334 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:55.880 have done the same thing under Thompson, right, Like I 335 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:58.039 don't think they got Wheeler back, and he's looked like 336 00:17:58.039 --> 00:18:01.240 Wheeler and Harper. He aged forwards. Great, get it up. 337 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:04.319 Yeah, but like it's the team meeting before that. Yeah 338 00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:06.440 it is. You might win the game before the team, 339 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:08.440 you know, without the team meeting, because your ace is 340 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:10.319 going anyway, that's why you do it. 341 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:11.200 Yeah. 342 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:14.000 The difference is that Thompson was a ninety plus win 343 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:18.000 manager for three years, yes, and Mendoza was not. 344 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:19.799 Yeah. 345 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:21.519 That's about all we can tell, right. 346 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:28.000 Right, Yeah, Series I kind of costing a lot off 347 00:18:28.039 --> 00:18:28.359 of that. 348 00:18:28.279 --> 00:18:31.759 World But that does matter, like it matters in the room. 349 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:34.279 He won a World Show. I don't know if anyone 350 00:18:34.359 --> 00:18:36.119 left from that World Series team still in the room, 351 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:37.079 but he's. 352 00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:41.240 A it does matter. It doesn't matter. Yeah, I again, 353 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:43.000 I go back to Roberts, who has a lot of 354 00:18:43.039 --> 00:18:48.079 these same tactical issues. Yeah, and again I read Shean's 355 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:51.279 notes on this. I don't think he's the only one 356 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:58.359 making this point. But the strategic on field decisions were 357 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:03.200 I mean, you were fire yeah, well before this, and 358 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:08.240 I think whatever you have to put whatever least she 359 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:14.160 got on the clubhouse side of things. But again, maybe 360 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:17.079 he's not as good as Roberts and look, I've heard 361 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:20.000 about stuff on Roberts's side of that that's maybe he's 362 00:19:20.039 --> 00:19:22.599 not all that, you know, it's not all he's cracked 363 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:25.720 up to be or whatever, but he wins the games, 364 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:29.039 right and you there is as much about you're hearing 365 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:30.400 stuff this year with a Dulton. 366 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:32.960 Rushing apparently yea apparently, But like. 367 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:37.039 You don't get all the stuff that's happened in coming 368 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:39.799 out of the stuff over the last few years. And 369 00:19:39.839 --> 00:19:41.880 some of that is because they just win games. They're 370 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:43.359 not gonna hear about it. If you win games. 371 00:19:43.440 --> 00:19:46.960 There's a a soccer analogy here, right, Like it's different 372 00:19:47.079 --> 00:19:53.319 I think managing Real Madrid versus like Aston Villa, right, 373 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:55.640 Like Real Madrid, you're always gonna have the be Like 374 00:19:55.640 --> 00:19:58.119 Carlo Ancelotti is a classic example of this, Like he's 375 00:19:58.119 --> 00:20:02.160 not necessarily a great tactical manager, though I think he 376 00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:04.200 can be a bit underrated at a time because he's 377 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:07.519 seen as this like star whisper man manager, Like he 378 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:11.559 just gets guys of play and he managed see what's 379 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:16.480 happened with Real Madrid since he's since he's left, like it, 380 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:18.440 it can be difficult like this, like the Phil Jackson 381 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:22.640 Bulls thing, right, like how do you get Rodman and 382 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:26.880 Pippin and Jordan to all play together? Right, like there 383 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:28.880 is a there is a skilled them. I don't know 384 00:20:28.920 --> 00:20:32.119 if Roberts has, like I know Don Maddingly probably didn't 385 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:33.880 when he was there, right because you heard a lot 386 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:37.799 more in the background. But like again, it is winning 387 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:41.039 cren created. 388 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:43.839 He was supposed to be the same style of manager. 389 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:47.240 Winning creates the clubhouse chemistry right like you like you 390 00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:51.519 know talking about like the Grimace mets O MG stretch 391 00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:55.519 right right like before that it was you know, Jorgalo 392 00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:57.680 has thrown his glove into the stands and just like 393 00:20:57.720 --> 00:20:59.680 in a complete mess for the first six weeks there. 394 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:02.359 So you know, at the beginning of last year they 395 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:05.440 had the best record at baseball. Sometime around late June 396 00:21:05.480 --> 00:21:08.559 early July, everything was going great, right they got Clay Holmes, 397 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:11.720 he's pitching well. And then when things start going bad, 398 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:15.640 like there's nothing to fall back on. And look, the 399 00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:17.960 manager's job, to an extent, and I get the players 400 00:21:17.960 --> 00:21:19.799 are involved here is to pull the team out of 401 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:23.039 the tailspin right when that happens, because every team's going 402 00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:25.599 to go through. The Dodgers have done this before two 403 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:29.640 under our terrible month under the year they ended up 404 00:21:29.680 --> 00:21:31.200 tied with the Rockies or whatever they had, like some 405 00:21:31.400 --> 00:21:35.440 terrible month down a stretch there. Yeah, they went to 406 00:21:35.480 --> 00:21:37.640 the World Series and they went right, like so and 407 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:43.279 again it's not there's no easy solution, but like, I 408 00:21:43.359 --> 00:21:47.680 don't get the I would like people, specifically in the 409 00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:49.680 New York Mets speed, tell me when it is okay 410 00:21:49.759 --> 00:21:53.000 to fire your manager, give me, give me a date 411 00:21:53.079 --> 00:21:55.480 and time in scenario right, do they literally need to 412 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:57.880 be trying to fight the media like Mickey Callaway who 413 00:21:58.000 --> 00:22:00.880 got fired for other even more just the fiable reasons, 414 00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:06.079 But like do they like what is the so again, 415 00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:08.519 this is this, you have extended Carlos mendo Is going 416 00:22:08.519 --> 00:22:10.000 into an option year after this year? Would you have 417 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:12.599 extended Carlos Mendoza because they're gonna say no. 418 00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:15.400 But then is the saying this was too early. 419 00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:19.400 Now they're saying it's not his fault and he's escapegoat 420 00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:22.759 for David Stern's roster. That's what they're saying. Because Carlos 421 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:23.880 Mendoza takes them back. 422 00:22:24.440 --> 00:22:28.279 I have to assume, well, yeah, maybe it's that there's 423 00:22:28.279 --> 00:22:31.839 a real situation going on. Yeah, sure, well I have 424 00:22:31.960 --> 00:22:34.759 to also assume like you can always set your sights 425 00:22:34.799 --> 00:22:38.119 on the bigger fish and you're you're gonna make more 426 00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:43.359 hay for longer. Sure shitting on sterns at the moment. 427 00:22:43.440 --> 00:22:47.440 If you're the New York media, then Mendoza is gone. 428 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:47.920 He's not. 429 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:51.119 That's not red mil like it's already. And the thing is, 430 00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:55.559 like everybody wrote their columns and did their like front 431 00:22:55.599 --> 00:22:58.640 facing TikTok videos and then by you know, they're up 432 00:22:58.680 --> 00:23:01.039 down a road trip to Toronto. It's just the story 433 00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:04.599 is done. Mendoza, didn't you know Mendoza to his credit, 434 00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:07.920 I guess it's compared to Alex Cora just did. 435 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:10.759 The standard boiler play company smiley face. 436 00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:14.079 Yeah, thanks for the thanks for the memories. Basically, I 437 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:16.559 want to thank Steve Cohen and David Starts for the opportunity. 438 00:23:16.680 --> 00:23:18.960 YadA YadA. I didn't work out the way YadA, YadA, YadA, 439 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:22.359 So there's no again. Maybe he goes on background at 440 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:24.759 some way sources for knowledge of coast. Mendoza's thinking in 441 00:23:24.920 --> 00:23:27.079 four months, but you know he's looking he's going to 442 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:31.079 get a coaching job or a player development job this offseason, 443 00:23:31.119 --> 00:23:31.880 like he's gonna. 444 00:23:31.640 --> 00:23:33.519 Be a great higher for the San Francisco Giants. 445 00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:36.559 Yeah, there you go. Uh so actually color in my eye. 446 00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:42.480 Yeah, easier to criticize Turns because we can is going 447 00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:46.039 to be the Rockies manager for Yeah, he's the Braves. 448 00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:50.119 He already has been the manager. 449 00:23:50.480 --> 00:23:54.160 Who is the what what's happening with Warren Schaeffer? Warren 450 00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:58.599 sh sorry thirty five year old Warren? Yes, I only 451 00:23:58.680 --> 00:24:01.480 know because he was the I mean maybe for like 452 00:24:01.559 --> 00:24:01.960 three years. 453 00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:03.880 Yeah, here's the thing. 454 00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:07.599 Mendoza wasn't the guy in New York. There are no guys. 455 00:24:08.599 --> 00:24:10.599 If Rob Thompson is not a guy. If Rob Thompson 456 00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:14.119 can can like win year after year and then have 457 00:24:14.319 --> 00:24:18.079 forty bad games and be out, then there are no guys. 458 00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:21.119 And if you are a prospective manager, my suggestion is 459 00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:24.880 have a thing. Like the last manager to have a 460 00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:27.720 thing was Joe Madden, and that thing got him like 461 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:28.599 ten years worth. 462 00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:34.880 Yeah, yeah, you needed there was he had quirky was 463 00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:36.640 like bringing in penguins and a smoke. 464 00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:39.039 He had the t building exercises and stuff like that, 465 00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:43.000 like and legitimately, like you can have whatever feelings you 466 00:24:43.039 --> 00:24:44.920 want to have about Joe Mannon, but it kept him 467 00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:47.880 employed and it kept him, like in the public consciousness 468 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:50.240 at least people could go, oh, yeah, well he has 469 00:24:50.279 --> 00:24:53.880 a you know, there is something he does well. So 470 00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:57.920 no manager is safe unless they can carmonate some sort 471 00:24:57.960 --> 00:24:58.720 of actual like. 472 00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:01.359 I do you mean also much like soccer, every manager 473 00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:04.400 is hired to be fired. Yes, well, I mean that 474 00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:05.680 was quickly as soccer. 475 00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:09.960 But I do want to the on field stuff really 476 00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:13.440 does matter too, write like because you as you said, 477 00:25:13.519 --> 00:25:17.480 like as we're talking about, winning solves everything, and so 478 00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:21.319 if you do stuff that negatively impacts your chances of winning, 479 00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:26.759 like not pulling the starter, yeah, which like he constantly 480 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:27.680 gave guys. 481 00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:30.200 Yes, usually Freddy Perolta, and then he would bring in 482 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:33.599 Jascar bras a BoNT who's not a strike out Freddy Peralta. 483 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:37.240 But he did it with David Petersons, He did it 484 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:41.880 with all these guys who should be twenty one twenty 485 00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:45.000 two batters and out. I mean Clay Holmes. Again, Clay 486 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:47.279 Holmes was going really well. Clay Holmes was a conversion. 487 00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:51.480 You needed to be conservative to get him further into 488 00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:55.519 the season, and they weren't, and he baited really hard 489 00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:59.039 last year. You know, these are things and again I 490 00:25:59.079 --> 00:26:02.079 don't think David's Darnce doesn't. David Stearns also knows how 491 00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:03.200 Freddy Peralta works. 492 00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:06.839 Ye, yes he does. And you can tell all you 493 00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:09.119 can do is give him the information, right, Like you 494 00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:12.079 can't sit in the dugout and manage the team form 495 00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:15.359 correct And like David Searns hired this guy, right, Like 496 00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:19.359 it's not like ye and like sometimes you know maybe 497 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:22.880 he interviews really well. Well, there are a lot of 498 00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:23.759 marks on Sterens here. 499 00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:28.359 I also I do, I do really wonder though, like 500 00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:32.720 you always have to ask what who are you getting? 501 00:26:32.759 --> 00:26:33.200 That's better? 502 00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:38.799 Yeah, well, I'll say, like I'll try not to repeat 503 00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:40.960 myself from the podcast I recorded yesterday. 504 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:41.720 Uh. 505 00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:47.559 But the thing with Sterns versus Mendoza, right, Mendoza is 506 00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:52.079 only responsible for making the major league roster tick. That 507 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:57.079 is his job. And the most visible thing that David 508 00:26:57.119 --> 00:27:01.240 Stearns does is create and shape the major league roster. Right, 509 00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:03.240 But it's not the only thing he does. And I 510 00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:07.359 don't know that's even I mean, it is primarily like 511 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.319 everything is pulling towards winning, putting a winning team on 512 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:15.200 the field and the majors. Right, But the prod like 513 00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:17.079 the fantasy baseball moves. 514 00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:17.359 Right. 515 00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:20.319 The trades and the high level free agent signings are 516 00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:22.880 the most visible part of that, but they're not the 517 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:27.079 only part of it. And I think because this offseason 518 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:30.079 has gone out as badly as outcomes as possible, I 519 00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:32.480 don't think the process was awful, although you can nitpick 520 00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:37.119 certain parts of it certainly right like maybe the Bishet theets. 521 00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:39.039 I don't think anbody thought sheet was going to be 522 00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:40.680 this bad. He might just end up having the Bobochet 523 00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:42.559 season by the time it's all said and done. Anyway, 524 00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:43.319 he's heading. 525 00:27:43.119 --> 00:27:43.960 In that direction better. 526 00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:47.119 Yeah, but the structure of that contract, while he is 527 00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:50.759 a qualifying offer guy, I think you can sure nitpick. 528 00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:56.839 Everybody wants to point out Polanco versus Alonzo, which is fine, 529 00:27:56.920 --> 00:28:00.359 but also like, what's actually happened is a Jaredy Eric 530 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.119 Wagoman platoon, which has not been that much worse than Alonzo. 531 00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:09.519 Uh well, I don't to me. The Polanco thing that 532 00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:13.240 was crazy to me was Ryan o'hearne is there, Yeah, 533 00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:15.319 but I don't actually like Ryan O'Hearn has a one 534 00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:16.400 twenty three ops. 535 00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:18.279 Plus, he's been better. He is pretty good, but I 536 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:20.720 just don't like at the time I don't think there 537 00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:23.759 was also actually a first base. Yeah, I just don't 538 00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:28.720 think there was a huge argument. Like I don't think 539 00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:30.640 there was a huge difference either way, like at that 540 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:35.359 moment on that contract a little bit. They both got 541 00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:38.359 two year deals. Like it's not if you think Polanco 542 00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:39.160 is the guy, you. 543 00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:44.319 Just didn't get twenty million a year. No, yeah, like 544 00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:47.440 two and I thought he had forty. 545 00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:49.160 Did he get too? I think you're like two thirty six? 546 00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:54.400 But whatever, maybe he got maybe he did get two forty, 547 00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:57.079 he got forty, Yeah, I mean, but. 548 00:28:57.200 --> 00:28:58.519 The thing is that it was a lot for a 549 00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:01.000 guy who had been better, had for a few years, 550 00:29:01.319 --> 00:29:04.440 had had the injury, right, I mean, look, I understand 551 00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:06.680 it too, but also like couldn't stay on the field. 552 00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:09.400 I think the argument is they actually should have sign 553 00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:11.039 both of them. They don't have to play Mark Bianto's 554 00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:11.599 and Brett Bady. 555 00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:13.519 But there's that. 556 00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:16.680 But so again you can nitpick things here in there, right, 557 00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:19.400 like they the Nemo trade, Okay, but like Nemo hasn't 558 00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.279 actually been better than Carson banjer a j ewing really. 559 00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:27.160 So no, they just have you j mend so yeah, but. 560 00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:29.640 They've had a lot of it yes, but they have 561 00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:29.960 had a. 562 00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.519 Lot of I also do, like we've talked about Nimo 563 00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:33.839 a lot. 564 00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:36.599 Nemo didn't want a d she would be dhing more 565 00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:38.880 in this that's one of the trade. 566 00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:41.400 He's a one twenty oh ps plus this year. I 567 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:43.519 think a lot of that is park adjustment. 568 00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:44.799 From it is a lot of it is park adjustment 569 00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:47.319 from Texas. I mean, that's a terrible park tohead. 570 00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:49.559 Maybe it is a terrible park to hidden, but like 571 00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:53.559 that's still I I I don't know if things would 572 00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:56.880 look as good if he was in city, just in general, 573 00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:02.960 and again they had they shifted where the money ends, right, 574 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:07.720 and they had depth there. M J. Melenda is notwithstanding, 575 00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:10.559 like they had organizational depth there generally. 576 00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:11.960 Right, And like, look, they signed talk Ben and he 577 00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:16.000 just had the injury, right, like they've had Tailor's missed 578 00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:17.920 a bunch of time. Not that I'm a huge Tyron 579 00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:21.400 Taylor fan, but he's a better bench outfield option than MJ. Melendez. 580 00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:23.480 But they've been able to run with Sodo Bennginewing, And 581 00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:25.759 I think that's like your outfield for the next five years. 582 00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:33.119 So right, yeah, I think I don't know. I look 583 00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:35.000 at you said, there's a lot of marks against him, 584 00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:38.920 and there are I think I don't know that I 585 00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:44.279 loved Freddy Peralta as as the acquisition, like what they 586 00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:46.720 needed him to be. To me, he was not an 587 00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:50.440 East because of the games and stuff like that. I 588 00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:53.200 don't even necessarily need an ace. I didn't mind them 589 00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:55.119 getting him, but I didn't think he was like the 590 00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:59.920 answer right for the rotation, I think, But I think 591 00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:01.039 I generally liked it. 592 00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:03.160 I just I mean, I think they had a good 593 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.599 rotation going into the season, and then McLean has been 594 00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:09.160 on more and even than you would have hoped, and 595 00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:12.079 Holmes got hurt, right, So that's how you're they've had 596 00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:16.440 to Like, Mania has been better recently in shorter outings 597 00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:20.160 they've moved on from Peterson. Christian Scott's been pretty good. Yeah, 598 00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:22.200 all in all, although he's more of that like five 599 00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:23.920 inning guy at the moment. But he's also coming off 600 00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:26.519 Tommy Johnson. That might be part of it as well. Yeah, 601 00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:30.519 like they found I'm not particularly worried about the pitching 602 00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:31.359 going forward. 603 00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:33.519 I guess I was gonna say, like, I generally think 604 00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:37.160 the process is pretty defensible. I think he's taken some 605 00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:40.880 gambles that I don't know that I love, but I understood, right. 606 00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:45.839 I don't know when the Luis Robert Gamble, right, but 607 00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:47.720 you knew it could end up like this. 608 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:49.880 Yeah, I mean, I guess my question would be, where 609 00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:52.680 were they getting a better, better pitcher than Freddy Perolta 610 00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:53.640 this past offseason? 611 00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:00.240 Yeah, I don't, I don't know. Yeah, it's it's a 612 00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:03.759 fair It's absolutely fair. Again, I think the process is 613 00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:06.920 pretty defensible, which is why I think this idea. I've 614 00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:08.720 really I feel like I've pushed back a lot on 615 00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:11.200 the idea that he's remotely close to getting fired. 616 00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:13.480 I don't think. I don't think they'll fire him, just 617 00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:17.640 because I think what we talked about with the turnover 618 00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:23.839 in the field staff is even more both more prevalent 619 00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:26.160 in the front office and more detrimental. Like you can 620 00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:27.920 just bring like, honestly, you can just bring in a 621 00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:30.920 new manager. This happens all the time. Well, like they 622 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.920 shouldn't be cycling through them this quickly or firing the 623 00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:35.880 mid season as often as they have over the last 624 00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:36.480 fifteen years. 625 00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:37.279 But like. 626 00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:41.599 You know or all, he's not even fifteen since they 627 00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:46.240 let Kerry Collins go. But like the front office, this 628 00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:48.200 part of The problem is like when Sterns came in, 629 00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:50.519 is you had people from like five different front offices 630 00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:55.279 still just hanging around under contract doing stuff like it 631 00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:57.880 takes time to sort through that. And like Sterens has 632 00:32:57.920 --> 00:32:59.839 not actually been able to bring in outside of Edward 633 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:01.599 as well. I was one of his agms. He has 634 00:33:01.640 --> 00:33:03.319 really not been able to bring in a lot of 635 00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:05.200 the if he even wants to a lot of the 636 00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:07.599 people from Milwaukee, because they're still in Milwaukee is under 637 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.480 contract and there's going back away as like Mark at 638 00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:12.880 Nazio is not inclined to do Steve Cohen any favors 639 00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:16.720 in terms of letting people out of contracts for promotions 640 00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:17.400 and things like that. 641 00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:23.319 Well, and they had some when Stern's left. There was 642 00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:27.319 like some strict stuff about how many you know, and. 643 00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.880 Like there's also you know, is the next guy going 644 00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.680 to keep Chris Gross? Is the next guy going to 645 00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:35.960 keep the hitting apparatus? Is the next guy going to keep? 646 00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:37.960 Like I mean maybe I mean you can set that 647 00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:40.359 like who is hiring the next guy? Is it Corn Ferry? 648 00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:42.039 Because I don't know if Steve Cohen, like there's Sandy 649 00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:44.240 Algison's not around anymore. But I'm talking about this in 650 00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:46.240 the minute with the Angels. I guess he could bring 651 00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:51.720 in I don't even know. It's a funny one to uh, 652 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:55.319 you can bring in like a consultant, interim, you know, 653 00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:56.759 hiring guy. 654 00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:05.039 But what are what are the Minnesota X Minnesota guys doing? Well? Yeah, 655 00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:06.960 I just think to your point about you can just 656 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:09.760 hire a manager like, is Andy Green going to be 657 00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:12.760 better than Carlos Mendoza, I think the answer is maybe. 658 00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:14.519 Maybe, Yeah, maybe, I don't think. 659 00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:17.000 I think if you just went to the next guy 660 00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:19.800 over David after David Stearns, I think the answer is 661 00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:24.199 almost certainly not right. That's that's my point when I say, 662 00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:25.840 who are you going to get that's going to improve him? 663 00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:31.239 Because again, on Mendoza, it could be literally Andy Green, 664 00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:35.599 who was just there and before, and you know that's 665 00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:40.199 almost certainly not the case with Stearns. So it's a 666 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:44.840 much different proposition. Ultimately, it's just a much different It's 667 00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:46.679 a different because. 668 00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:51.960 People don't understand like how much the number whatever, you 669 00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:53.880 knowther it's P O, B O or GM, whatever title 670 00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:57.280 they have, or it has to do beyond just deciding 671 00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:00.480 to sign Bobochet to a major league dealer. Trade for 672 00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:02.920 Freddy Parolta. That is the most sort of like visible 673 00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:03.519 stuff that they. 674 00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:06.320 Well, And I don't want to overly simplify the job 675 00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:09.039 of a manager. It's it's also a very difficult job. 676 00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:11.800 But like I think, if you're but you're more of 677 00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:16.760 a cog as if you're I don't know, you're RODNEYL. Lenaris, right, 678 00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.920 the raised bench coach. Yeah, Like the fact that they 679 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:25.159 fired Mendoza mid season is probably less of a impediment 680 00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:26.840 to you taking that job because you know you're going 681 00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:28.719 to get fired eventually. Right, maybe you just want your 682 00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:32.199 and like there's a decent chance you'll find another, if 683 00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:34.800 not managerial job like coaching, like Luis Rojas is like 684 00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:37.039 the third base coach for the Yankees, right, Like these 685 00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:37.880 guys do find. 686 00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:43.280 Sure there's more job. But if you're you know, I 687 00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:46.840 don't know whoever the next like Paul Taboni is, right, 688 00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:50.599 are you going to want to take the like you 689 00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:52.119 want less? Like I think if you know, if you're 690 00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:56.360 Rodney Lenaris, you are cock right, if you're you know, 691 00:35:56.480 --> 00:35:59.480 a hot shot, thirty five year old AGM, Like do 692 00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:01.199 you want to go work for Steve Cohen right now? 693 00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:05.679 If he fires David Stearns, like in the middle of 694 00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:08.079 the season or even really after the season after three years, 695 00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:10.800 right when he had I know that NLC. 696 00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:13.320 I think the answer is yes, I think it is. 697 00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:19.280 But you might think about it. Would think about what happened. 698 00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:21.360 With Boston after they fired him Bloom right, they had 699 00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:23.920 to go They that job was almost impossible. They hired 700 00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:27.159 the Craig Breslow was the Cub's pitching coordinator at the time. 701 00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:29.159 Was not even like h and I and I gotta 702 00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:32.199 tell you, I do wonder if part of me'son Greg 703 00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:35.760 Breslow still seems very secure in his job is because 704 00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:38.559 who would he can't keep doing this? 705 00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:42.199 Yeah, no one likes doing it. 706 00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:45.360 Oh, I mean it's awful. But but also like if 707 00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:48.880 you're the next again, wasn't Tiboni with the Red Sox, 708 00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:53.840 like you know which if you were with them, if 709 00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:56.000 you were Paul Tiboni with the Red Sox and they said, hey, 710 00:36:56.079 --> 00:36:58.280 look we're thinking about moving on from Craig, what do 711 00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.760 you think would you be like, you might want to 712 00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:04.480 go work for the Nationals. I'll start clean. Yeah, the 713 00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:06.800 last guy in the with the Nationals was there? How 714 00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.519 long was Rizzo there? Twelve years more than that. I think, yeah, 715 00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:12.480 I might go with these guys. 716 00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:14.519 And he got to come in and clean house immediately 717 00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:16.679 and bring in his guys and do whatever he wants, right, 718 00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:18.199 I don't know Steve Collin's going to let you do that. 719 00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:19.480 Smellon like roses. 720 00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:23.719 Yeah, you gotta put together a bullpen at some point, 721 00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:26.519 but not that. It doesn't not the hardest thing to do. 722 00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:28.440 It doesn't have to be this year, No, it doesn't. 723 00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:34.039 I apologize to the to the listeners for spending so 724 00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:36.360 much time in this. I think. I think the Mets 725 00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:39.360 the manager thing is very interesting to me, and the 726 00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:41.840 Mets are are real phrase. 727 00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:43.000 I'm always too interesting. 728 00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:47.039 Yeah, yeah, let's go to our next segment. It's it's 729 00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:50.480 more of the same man, Thank you for sending me 730 00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:57.360 an angel. Perry Mansion was fired. Uh I I saw 731 00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:59.800 a report. I saw a post, I should say, I 732 00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:04.239 saw post that said news broke of this. Well, the 733 00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:08.719 Angels were playing a holly Jolly Christmas over the loud speakers, 734 00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:12.360 which you know, and and no one has answered me, 735 00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:13.960 I said the person who sent it to me in 736 00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:17.159 a chat, I said it was it's a group chat, 737 00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:18.880 and someone else moved on and was like, you know, 738 00:38:18.920 --> 00:38:21.039 it's it that the news or whatever. And I went 739 00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:23.800 back and said, wait a minute, why was Holly Jolly 740 00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:25.440 Christmas plane in June? 741 00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:27.679 Are you doing like a Christmas in June thing? 742 00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:30.800 People do that, That's July. People do Christmas in July. 743 00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:33.159 But it's like actually six months apart. So it's like 744 00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:34.119 the mid I. 745 00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:37.599 Don't know we are marketing. Is Christmas in July? Is 746 00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:38.679 it not? Am I crazy? 747 00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:40.400 I mean maybe it is. 748 00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:44.480 It might have been. I think I think Molly Jolly 749 00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:48.760 was being interviewed somewhere at the time, and this is 750 00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:49.800 the first time I've ever heard. 751 00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:50.599 Of Molly Jolly. 752 00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:52.880 She's a team president, Yes she is, but I had 753 00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:55.360 not I had no awareness of that prior to now, 754 00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:58.920 because it doesn't impact your life at all. Yeah, but 755 00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:04.440 now it because Mollie Jolly apparently made this decision. Yeah, 756 00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:09.639 and they are hiring that way. They've hired John mose 757 00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:13.800 lac On as a contract. I mean, he's a consultant 758 00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:19.159 and the energy but he is a consultant to the organization. 759 00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:23.400 He also apparently has not talked to Lady at any 760 00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:26.119 point I would be saying this. I think that's a 761 00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:29.000 great idea, and I was John Mosella, I would have 762 00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:35.119 said one, I will take this to talk first on 763 00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:38.840 my consultant contract. You know. 764 00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:40.639 The thing is that, like I don't think he has 765 00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:42.559 to worry about speaking Artie Marina. I think the worry 766 00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:44.320 is about Marty Marina speaking to him. 767 00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:49.519 But my point is no contact, no contact. You know, 768 00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:52.280 it all happens through Molly Jolly. That's fine whatever. 769 00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:58.119 I had a choice of writing between. I was like, 770 00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:00.719 do I write about Indozer, do I write about an Asian? 771 00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:02.840 And I I'm rather right about Asia. 772 00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:03.880 Yeah, this is. 773 00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:08.639 The Mendoza stuff. The Mindoza's story feels like a beat 774 00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:10.800 writer story, like we are going to find out the 775 00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:13.519 details when the beat writers extract the details, and that's 776 00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:15.039 what they're there for. And I'm glad they're doing this. 777 00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:17.800 They're actually there to imply David Stearns is to blame 778 00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:18.960 and yes, yeah. 779 00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:24.519 Uh this is this is just the angels, the angels 780 00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:28.199 being the angels, and so yeah, I wrote about this. 781 00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:32.400 This is a good move for them. It is not 782 00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:36.440 not in terms of what I want or what you want, 783 00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:38.719 or what Angels fans want, but as far as what 784 00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:39.519 the angels want. 785 00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:44.039 No, I think this is actually like good for the Angels. 786 00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:47.519 Maybe good for the Angels. 787 00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:49.760 I think it will bring them back to the ninety 788 00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:54.639 loss three million fan status that the Angels want to 789 00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:58.239 be in. Yeah, they want to be like they are 790 00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:02.199 evil Rockies. The Rockies couldn't do it anymore. The Angels 791 00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:02.679 think they. 792 00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:05.320 Can and doing it though I do. 793 00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:09.559 So here's the thing. You talk about the evil Rockies, 794 00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:13.039 but like the Angels are just living firmly in the 795 00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:14.920 Rockies zone at this point. 796 00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:16.920 I just came up. 797 00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:19.599 They're just not doing They're just like letting the building 798 00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:22.159 crumble and letting the ac fall apart, and they're like 799 00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:24.480 they're like they want to be the Rockies, but like 800 00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:26.000 doing a little less work. 801 00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:28.679 Yeah. This came up in the Frali kids discord. I 802 00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:32.280 think because like the Median and modal age and there's 803 00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:36.280 thirty seven years old, but people talking about, like again, 804 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:38.800 the Angels were so good when I was younger, right, 805 00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:42.079 like you know the Garrett Anderson Vlad Guerrera, like they 806 00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:45.000 won a World Series. They were a pesty playoff team 807 00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:47.760 and they always played the yank They famously were like 808 00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:52.159 the Yankees bugaboo and like what happened, and I'm like, well, 809 00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:55.199 like Ardy Morino bought the team in literally two thousand 810 00:41:55.199 --> 00:41:58.880 and three, and like there's been some there was some 811 00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:02.119 carryover from the old regimes for a few years. Yeah, 812 00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:04.360 and then Mike kept running the things. 813 00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:07.000 Yeah, it's wrong to say he's done nothing, since he's 814 00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:10.960 clearly done some stuff. Yeah, but like essentially he's just 815 00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:15.000 as Patrick said, like he's just letting letting stuff. It's 816 00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:18.119 a lot like like in Washington, d C. And there 817 00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:19.679 was a big deal made about it because there was 818 00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:22.039 like a crash and stuff, but like they just didn't 819 00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:24.519 do any maintenance for thirty years on the meta. Yeah, 820 00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:26.639 they just were like, it's working. 821 00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:29.440 Yeah, they should have done. All they had to do 822 00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:31.199 was painted blue and we've been fine. 823 00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:34.719 It turns out, well that's a different that's not the matter. 824 00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:38.440 But yeah, you just don't do maintenance for thirty years 825 00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:42.000 and everything seems fine and then yeah, yeah until it breaks. 826 00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:43.559 Oh oh yeah. 827 00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:46.519 But it's like with like hurricane, with a superstorm, sandy 828 00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:49.199 or whatever, like they just like, oh, yeah, these pumps 829 00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:51.360 have been working since eighteen ninety in the subway, it's 830 00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:53.400 probably fine, yeah. 831 00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:56.000 Probably, Yeah, And then you turn out you have to 832 00:42:56.159 --> 00:42:58.079 you have to actually have the pumps work. Yeah, and 833 00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:02.800 then you know, yeah, it does. It feels a lot 834 00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:03.880 like that that he's. 835 00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:08.559 Just yeah, like obviously, like Mike Trout, no Tani covered 836 00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:11.840 for a lot of this over the it's easier to only. 837 00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:13.920 Lose ninety accomplish anything. 838 00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:16.440 Well, it's easier to lose only ninety when you have 839 00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:19.519 Mike Trout. There is a floor there. 840 00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:22.039 Imagine the Rockies with a Mike Trout. 841 00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:27.400 Yeah. I still I look at this stuff and like, 842 00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:32.039 I don't know that I've hated at the time that 843 00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:34.719 they've that man and made a ton of these moves, 844 00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:42.000 like Robert Stevens, like you got the robertson some of them, Patrick, 845 00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:44.639 you you listened a lot and like it's a lot 846 00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:47.320 of money spent for very little production. 847 00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:50.280 To summarize, it's three hundred million dollars and they got 848 00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:51.039 for warp. 849 00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:53.920 It's ratio how. 850 00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:55.960 Much of that It's like most of that is Anthony Rendall. 851 00:43:56.119 --> 00:43:57.400 No, that doesn't. 852 00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:02.920 Before n down is less money than that and also 853 00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:03.880 more work than that. 854 00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:10.199 Right, But yeah, so you can you can go down the. 855 00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:16.360 List, right, the Robert Stevenson deal, you know, and he 856 00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:18.199 got Yeah, Tyler Anderson. 857 00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:22.440 I look, I will I have to grow on that. Again, 858 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:24.039 I'm saying I didn't hate it at the time. I 859 00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:26.360 didn't hate it at the time. He had come off 860 00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:31.079 the year with the Dodgers and I and whatever, and 861 00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:34.480 he's and he was bad. He was awful, especially on 862 00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:37.039 our work. But he was awful and that was bad. 863 00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:39.679 But I didn't think they jumped the market on that one. 864 00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:47.360 I remember that signing came in like November. That deal 865 00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:50.760 is the best one of the bunch. Ok. Yeah, again, 866 00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:53.320 I didn't hate the Kakuchi one. I didn't hate Anderson. 867 00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:56.159 I should have. That's that's wrong, right, Like that's wrong. 868 00:44:56.760 --> 00:44:58.159 But Iglesias is probably fine. 869 00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:02.159 Glasius is fine, except they they decided it wasn't fine 870 00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:03.800 a year and a half into the four year deal 871 00:45:03.880 --> 00:45:05.679 got out of it, and that was great for the Braves, 872 00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:07.920 like whatever value they got out of it. 873 00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:11.400 But I don't that that felt a lot. Yeah, I agree, 874 00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:14.599 Like the trade was, Yeah, that was was. It was weird. 875 00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:17.599 The Brandon marsh for a happy deal isn't looking great 876 00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:18.400 right now either. 877 00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:24.840 No, No, that's that's tough one. Yeah yeah, but yeah, 878 00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:26.880 like a cinder guard blatantly bad. 879 00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:29.119 Yeah, I mean that was that was not the only 880 00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:31.800 team to make that mistake, right and not it wasn't 881 00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:37.280 even a terrible punt at the time. No, it was like, yeah, yeah, 882 00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:38.960 because they signed him like he. 883 00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:40.719 Was before the Dodgers tried it. 884 00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:43.559 Yeah, yeah, they signed They probably gave him too much money, 885 00:45:43.639 --> 00:45:45.320 but you probably had to give him too much money 886 00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:46.639 to get him to come to Anaheim. 887 00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:49.960 I didn't. I didn't hate the Travis Darnault thing. We 888 00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:53.199 all said, that's like the premium backup catcher thing, just awful. 889 00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:57.519 It ran Carlos Estevez again, like not he's been better. 890 00:45:57.519 --> 00:46:00.639 I mean, you do this with relievers, but like they've 891 00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:03.519 all been It's too much money to relievers for a 892 00:46:03.599 --> 00:46:05.000 bad team, I'll tell you that much. 893 00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:05.480 Yeah. 894 00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:08.719 Like on a theme, it's a problem, and maybe the 895 00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:13.519 trades are are a problem, but it just this is 896 00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:15.119 another one where I'm just like, I don't know that 897 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:17.280 I hated all of these, but like it really has 898 00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:19.400 not worked out and well. 899 00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:20.960 And even tho it's one year deals. Like the other 900 00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:24.679 thing is that like the connotation about the Angels is 901 00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:27.719 that they essentially ran out of money and had to 902 00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:29.760 give a lot of one year deals to kind of 903 00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:33.519 reclamation projects. Uh, and they've reclaimed none of them, like 904 00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:37.599 they've like it's yeah, and they either hit on a free. 905 00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:41.239 Agent right and like you can also like I've written 906 00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:44.119 a lot about their drafting and player development strategy over 907 00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:48.280 the years, but you can't have this many high first 908 00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:51.920 round picks and only get like Zach Nettow, who's a 909 00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:55.679 nice player, probably a first division starker out of it. 910 00:46:56.360 --> 00:46:59.719 Right, Nolan Chohan will yeah is he's one hundred and 911 00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:01.679 five ps plus and he will be for the rest 912 00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:04.360 of time. Yes, it doesn't matter where he went or 913 00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:06.119 how it went there, Like that's how. 914 00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:08.119 He would have the second overall pick, and they took 915 00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:09.280 Tyler Bremner, Like. 916 00:47:11.360 --> 00:47:13.440 Yeah, yeah, I mean there was there was the the 917 00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:16.800 all uh, the all picture draft. 918 00:47:16.920 --> 00:47:18.039 There's the all picture draft. 919 00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:22.920 Right, the shaping themselves for finally strategy. 920 00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:25.280 I shouldn't say they're finally getting something out of Debt Meurs. 921 00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:27.880 They have returned Debtmers to what he was in twenty 922 00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:28.519 twenty eight. 923 00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:31.960 And it's about agent you get something out of story 924 00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:35.559 like Soriano. Yeah, I know there's been some backslide this season, 925 00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:40.679 but like it looks legitimately good. Yeah, Debtmers looks legitimately. 926 00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:44.199 Robert Uringa has been I don't know if he's actually 927 00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:46.679 a starter long term, but has been a decent and 928 00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:47.800 up starter for the miss year. 929 00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:50.920 I don't know. 930 00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:55.039 Again, so much of this there's there's the same kind 931 00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:58.880 of discussion from Mendoza to Stearns as there is from 932 00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:03.599 Manasium to Marino. And that doesn't excuse the poor job 933 00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:06.840 done by by Manasim right, Like I'm not I'm not 934 00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:08.719 trying to say putting. 935 00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:11.639 I think probably firmer guardrails in there than Stearn's west 936 00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:12.239 of Mendoza. 937 00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:14.320 Sorry, say that again. 938 00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:17.480 I think Moreno probably has firmer guardrails for Mansi And 939 00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:20.440 then Stern said for Mendoza, right, And. 940 00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:24.000 We'll never know for sure, but probably yeah. I just 941 00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:28.199 it's it's and it's easy to say, let's all point 942 00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:32.599 this to to Marino, but there are there are gms 943 00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:35.320 who have worked for bad owners who have made things 944 00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:42.320 work right and sons was Now who are the gms 945 00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:44.159 who have made things work for Marna? 946 00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:47.960 But the Jaya Poto and Billy Upy both got jobs 947 00:48:48.920 --> 00:48:49.320 right away. 948 00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:54.639 I surprised that Harry Man gets a job. I'm not 949 00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:58.519 saying a GM job, but he'll get might be somewhere else. 950 00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:01.559 I just like he also kind of like jumped. This 951 00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:05.039 was a pretty not as uh not. 952 00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:07.199 As fast as they promote people through their farm system. 953 00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:09.360 Well not not as big a jump as like Breslow, 954 00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:10.840 but it was still a bigger jump than you would 955 00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:15.760 normally expect to get into the big chair. And I 956 00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:17.880 get like all these guys have egos like they think, oh, 957 00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:18.920 I can make it work. 958 00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:23.440 Yeah, like and like the Angels like want in a GM. 959 00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:25.400 Yeah, but the end, the Angels were starting for such 960 00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:31.599 a low base, like everywhere operationally when he came in, 961 00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:35.599 like there there should have been more like layups than 962 00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:37.800 there actually ended up being. Yeah, so of that might 963 00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:40.119 be moreno than what he can actually allow him to 964 00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:42.119 spend money on him outside of the major league team. 965 00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:47.800 I do also wonder I would love to know more 966 00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:51.960 details about what what it is that moreno does that 967 00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:55.159 that hamstrings these guys so much. Right, Look, we know 968 00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:58.079 we know some stuff. He he went in and put 969 00:49:58.119 --> 00:49:59.760 a put the kaibash on a deal that would have 970 00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:04.239 said Andy Pajyes and Jack Peterson and others to Anaheim 971 00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:08.280 for Luis Ronhifo and one other guy way back when 972 00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:12.639 we know he did that. We know he sometimes just 973 00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:15.400 goes and meets with Scott Boris or someone else and 974 00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:17.960 signs signs an impact. 975 00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:21.840 One of the lawns to just be and yes, work 976 00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:23.239 around for for agents. 977 00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:26.559 We know he does that sometimes. I'm sure he says. 978 00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:30.320 You know, Patrick, you pointed this out, like they do 979 00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:35.360 find in attendance rights. 980 00:50:33.880 --> 00:50:37.719 Get tickets, and they have a big market and and they. 981 00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:41.679 Get they get some names and you know whatever. But 982 00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:46.119 I would love to know specifically what it is that 983 00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:52.039 hamstrings guys so badly. I look, I suspect Jeff Well, 984 00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:53.920 we'll make a face. I mean for saying this. I 985 00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:58.000 don't think Perry Manzing is like dumb, right, like he's 986 00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:02.920 a dumb get sure I do. I will point out, 987 00:51:03.239 --> 00:51:07.800 you know, Riley Breckenrich, who read our annual essay and 988 00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:11.599 runs productive outs like has pointed out they just kept 989 00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:15.079 u like the injury stuff was very weird, as it 990 00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:18.840 is in the Organs going through stuff like this, as 991 00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:22.280 it has been for the Mets before too. But we're 992 00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:24.639 still looking three weeks later, we're still looking at it 993 00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:27.840 like we're still waiting for the results and it's like, well, 994 00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:30.960 what the hell is going on? So you know, maybe 995 00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:33.159 he's dumb in some other areas. I don't know, but 996 00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:37.119 you know, bad at this, But I don't know. It 997 00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:41.000 wouldn't surprise me if he was competent somewhere else. Sure, 998 00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:43.039 So like, okay, it goes back. 999 00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:45.360 To Moreno, but what he you can't like he's been 1000 00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:45.960 trying to sell that. 1001 00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:48.400 Lorena was also gonna be there for the next guy 1002 00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:49.639 there is there is. 1003 00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:52.199 So yeah, this is how I concluded the piece, like 1004 00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:54.679 there is a path forward under Marina, and that is 1005 00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:57.360 that you spend well on veterans like Breno was clearly 1006 00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:01.639 willing to. They spent money pay rolls like fourteenth. 1007 00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:02.000 Or something this year. 1008 00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:07.559 It's it's a right that it was ten years ago. 1009 00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:09.679 Sure, and and yes, you're not going to build a 1010 00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:11.719 winner out of it. But if you want a five 1011 00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:15.280 hundred teen that people want to come to the stadium for, 1012 00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:18.840 if you want to make the Angels, Mazella is not 1013 00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:20.400 a bad fit for making. 1014 00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:23.239 I mean, he's just gonna he's gonna be I mean, 1015 00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:23.920 he's going to. 1016 00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:29.920 It's a real choice to take the guy who the Cardinals, 1017 00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:33.000 who had been one of the model franchises for years 1018 00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:36.599 and years, had three straight losing seasons and said we 1019 00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:40.719 need to re sign a guy to slowly transition from 1020 00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:45.440 this guy and to modernize everything about our our organization. 1021 00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:48.800 And and then say, like for the Angels, they say 1022 00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:51.920 that's the guy that but they do I think they 1023 00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:56.039 truly would love to be this this is the being 1024 00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:57.639 the two thousand, but they're going to be the twenty 1025 00:52:57.719 --> 00:53:01.280 twenty four Cardinals. They don't know that. They think the 1026 00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:02.000 other ones. 1027 00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:06.519 So the thing about bringing in Mazaliac, like you don't 1028 00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:09.119 want to buire your GM right before the draft and 1029 00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:12.960 the trade deadline, right, but Bazaliak like will relate fine 1030 00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:16.679 to the scouts, the long tender scouts that run the 1031 00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:18.880 draft for them. And he's basically said in its pressure, 1032 00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:21.280 like I'm not going to get super involved anyway. And 1033 00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:24.199 as far as the trade deadline goes, Moreno said he's 1034 00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:27.280 not trading anybody so worried about that, Like he doesn't 1035 00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:28.800 have to try to figure out how to trade read 1036 00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:32.199 Debt Meurs and Jose Soriano and whoever else because they're 1037 00:53:32.199 --> 00:53:32.840 not getting traded. 1038 00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:37.039 They really should they should, Yeah, but. 1039 00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:43.400 But it is going to be a very weird trade deadline. Yeah, yeah, 1040 00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:47.840 I think I think Mazzeliak is going to be like 1041 00:53:48.159 --> 00:53:52.000 heavily involved in hiring the next GM there, and I 1042 00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:54.519 suspect you're gonna hear a lot of names from the 1043 00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:56.880 Cardinal's front office that aren't hind Bloomer and haven't been 1044 00:53:56.920 --> 00:53:58.159 brought in by hind bloom Right. 1045 00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:04.119 Yeah, look, that'll probably be like Randy. 1046 00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:07.320 Randy Flores is an a like Jeff Flesher mentioned ready 1047 00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:10.199 Flores Already, Randy Flores is a much better GM than 1048 00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:11.800 the Angels probably would have been able to get on 1049 00:54:11.880 --> 00:54:14.000 their own. Even then it's the Angels. 1050 00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:16.519 But if you're a Randy Flores, why would you take 1051 00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:16.920 this job? 1052 00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:18.519 Well, at a certain point, about. 1053 00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:20.719 If you're the next hot shot whoever he is, but 1054 00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:24.079 he's not anymore, if the if the other option is, 1055 00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:26.599 I mean, would you go work for Steve Cohen if 1056 00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:29.440 the other option is Ardi Moreno, But at. 1057 00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:31.760 A certain point, like you're gonna you gotta take the 1058 00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:34.679 job in front of you, right's been close a couple 1059 00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:37.639 of times but hasn't gotten it. And you're only the 1060 00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:40.440 hot GM candidate for so long until there's another younger, 1061 00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:41.719 hotter GM candidate. 1062 00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:44.239 The two safest jobs to get are the one with 1063 00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:47.079 a lot of runway, like say the Nationals. Yeah, or 1064 00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:49.599 one where perimids and worked for five and a half 1065 00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:50.280 years without. 1066 00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:53.159 You're gonna get your. 1067 00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:55.840 Time and look already might sell that team in the 1068 00:54:55.880 --> 00:54:59.760 next couple of years. He's been trying to He. 1069 00:54:59.840 --> 00:55:03.239 Has has been trying. Yeah. So the last thing on 1070 00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:06.119 a rundown and before we go to to a break, 1071 00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:08.239 says how bad a job is? 1072 00:55:08.360 --> 00:55:09.840 No, really bad, don't get me wrong. 1073 00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:16.920 I mean, like, well, if you're gonna rank it, uh, I. 1074 00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:21.800 Think this is probably the worst number one baseball ops 1075 00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:22.400 job you can have. 1076 00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:29.800 I'm trying. I'm trying to argue, I'm I'm looking. Who 1077 00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:33.199 are who are your contenders? Well, the Rockies, the Marlins. 1078 00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:37.199 The Marlins are the Marlins. You generally get left alone 1079 00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:37.679 within your. 1080 00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:40.119 Budget, Well you can the Angels, you get left alone. 1081 00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:44.559 Your no like moreno is more like nobody like Bruce 1082 00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:47.320 Sherman does not care what Peter Bendix is spending in 1083 00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:51.079 the draft right or where he's how like his draft. 1084 00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:52.760 The Rockies will leave you alone. 1085 00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:56.719 They I mean they'll leave you alone. But also you 1086 00:55:56.800 --> 00:55:59.800 can just go but not literally any person can go 1087 00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:01.480 for your head to get an answer from the owner. 1088 00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:06.400 So so here's what I would say. I understand where 1089 00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:11.000 the ORG is now is not remotely comparable. But the 1090 00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:17.559 Pirates job, I think, yeah, job, Yeah, the ORG is 1091 00:56:17.599 --> 00:56:21.079 in a much better position. I think it's a comparably 1092 00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:22.400 bad like. 1093 00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:27.159 I think that's the shift situation. Yes, but there's yeah, 1094 00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:28.760 there's more med Lane than like the Marlins. 1095 00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:29.599 I think. 1096 00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:35.760 Here's the hot take Reds. I think within a year 1097 00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:36.920 or two it might be the Orioles. 1098 00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:41.519 Yeah, it's not a it's not a bad shout because 1099 00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:45.119 I I also the athletics I think is miserable as well. Yeah, 1100 00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:47.920 that's the other one, but I think also clearly preferable. 1101 00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:50.559 Yeah, you also have like Vegas on the size and 1102 00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:53.639 they're like, I think they'll probably the money on the 1103 00:56:53.679 --> 00:56:57.599 Horizon on the horizon, but I think they'll probably like you. 1104 00:56:57.679 --> 00:57:00.239 Have to figure out how to be the not the 1105 00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:03.800 lesser Antilles, but the lesser Rockies in terms of pitching staffs. 1106 00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:06.760 Right, But I think they'll actually like the Horizon. I 1107 00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:09.159 think they'll spend money to make a show of it 1108 00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:11.440 for the first couple of seasons out there, Like you'll 1109 00:57:11.480 --> 00:57:12.079 have the opportunity. 1110 00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:14.079 I just think I think having to having to talk 1111 00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:14.639 to John. 1112 00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:16.960 Fisher just no, that's the same with already Marina. But 1113 00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:20.519 you also like you're at least and I don't think 1114 00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:25.559 they're making a front office move anytime, particularly soon, Like 1115 00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:28.119 you would be inheriting a very good offensive corps if 1116 00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:32.480 nothing else. Yeah, I like this is then Zach Medow, 1117 00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:34.880 Nolan Shahnawell and Joe Adell right like this. 1118 00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:38.039 Is it's at least Nick Kurtz, It's at least. 1119 00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:41.320 Nick Kurts like, look, Sodershrim has been good, has he? Yeah, 1120 00:57:41.360 --> 00:57:44.119 he's been like twenty five. You got a bad start 1121 00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:45.440 and he's been a lot better. 1122 00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:48.119 I remember the bad start. That's why I wasn't look. 1123 00:57:48.199 --> 00:57:52.639 I also I would caution to to to all the 1124 00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:55.880 owners listening to this podcast. It's not But I think 1125 00:57:56.079 --> 00:57:58.920 one of the lessons here is I think not long 1126 00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:00.960 ago you could have looked at at the Nationals and 1127 00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:05.480 said they were bottom five jobs in that you would want. 1128 00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:08.679 And what the what the Learners have done after not 1129 00:58:08.760 --> 00:58:11.800 selling a team? Take it take a hint, are you right? 1130 00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:15.000 Is they hired someone who knew what they were doing. 1131 00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:18.639 They let them run the team, and they've stayed the 1132 00:58:18.719 --> 00:58:19.280 fuck out of it. 1133 00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:23.800 And he's not going to do any of those things. 1134 00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:25.440 No, he's not going to do any of those things. 1135 00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:29.760 But but again, a year ago, having this, we might 1136 00:58:29.800 --> 00:58:32.199 have had this discussion. But if we had this discussion 1137 00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:34.039 a year ago, I think you would have put them 1138 00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:37.840 That's what I'm saying. I don't. Maybe we did, but 1139 00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:40.519 I don't remember, but it would have been pretty far 1140 00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:46.440 down there. Right. They had all sorts of timeline issues. 1141 00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:48.280 They still kind of have the timeline issues, but you 1142 00:58:48.360 --> 00:58:51.280 can you can sell it a little bit more given 1143 00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:52.239 the results thus far. 1144 00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:52.679 Yep. 1145 00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:56.480 And and the reality is I never would have thought 1146 00:58:56.519 --> 00:58:59.199 that the learners would let whoever came in and took 1147 00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:02.039 over do the modernization spend the way that they need 1148 00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:02.679 to spend. 1149 00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:07.320 On that quickly, like immediately, the first immediately, And. 1150 00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:10.199 It's just look, do I think it automatically bears fruit 1151 00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:13.000 like this in most situations. No, I think they've they've 1152 00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:15.519 there was a lot of low hanging fruit that they've 1153 00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:17.760 been able to pick and all that stuff. But even 1154 00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:20.199 that being said, I don't think it's a guarantee you 1155 00:59:20.239 --> 00:59:21.079 get results like this this. 1156 00:59:21.199 --> 00:59:22.920 Quickly as. 1157 00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:32.920 They let them find out. So that was the last note. 1158 00:59:33.079 --> 00:59:35.960 Let's take a break. We'll come back with the rest 1159 00:59:35.960 --> 01:00:03.159 of Welcome back to episode five hundred and fifty eight 1160 01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:07.320 of five and dive segment three. Hey, now you're an 1161 01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:10.559 All Star. You guys are gonna have to talk me 1162 01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:12.960 through some of this. I've not kept I barely keep 1163 01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:15.360 up with All Star voting anyway. 1164 01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:17.440 You know, I think that song has come out closer 1165 01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:18.760 to the moon landing than today. 1166 01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:22.760 Oh yeah, almost cool, thank you, thank you for that. 1167 01:00:23.519 --> 01:00:27.559 Yeah, no, it is like it was like what ninety six, Yeah, 1168 01:00:27.559 --> 01:00:29.280 I think it was ninety six or ninety so it was. 1169 01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:32.360 It was thirty years ago and the moon landings twenty 1170 01:00:32.440 --> 01:00:38.719 seven years yeah, from ninety six. Yeah cool. Thanks, all right, 1171 01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:40.480 So yeah, it was an All Star game. 1172 01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:43.920 Yeah, Ernie Clement is going to the Ernie Clement as 1173 01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:46.840 it was the highest vote getter in the al matching show. Heyo, 1174 01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:49.840 Tani in the NL real like all the stars are here. 1175 01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:57.000 Norm McDonald, Yeah, I don't. I don't know, like I 1176 01:00:57.199 --> 01:01:02.679 assumed I should say that when it's all obviously the 1177 01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:06.119 Jays have stuffed the ballot box. They have an entire 1178 01:01:06.159 --> 01:01:08.840 country to do it with, and I just kind of assumed, like, Okay, 1179 01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:11.360 there's going to be a backlash when it gets down 1180 01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:15.159 to the right the head to head voting, Like, but 1181 01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:18.639 Ernie Clement, of all the Jays, Ernie Clement got the 1182 01:01:18.719 --> 01:01:23.039 most vote, so he will guarantee it a All Star spot. 1183 01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:27.039 Where where does this fall on the on the spectrum 1184 01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:34.239 of Eric Soguard is the face of baseball omar and 1185 01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:38.320 is the starting what was the start going to be 1186 01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:42.400 the starting All Star second baseman as the worst player 1187 01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:46.800 in baseball when the Royals just what did they start? 1188 01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:49.400 Like seven? Yeah, nine guys that I mean, that's what I. 1189 01:01:49.400 --> 01:01:53.440 Think brought in the new Yes, real and like Clement 1190 01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:54.679 has been fine, right. 1191 01:01:55.239 --> 01:01:56.239 And it's a weak position. 1192 01:01:56.400 --> 01:01:59.320 That it's a weak position. He's been fine. It's not 1193 01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:00.480 I mean, I don't think. 1194 01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:03.519 It's a position. But he is the number one overall. 1195 01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:06.480 Yes, I don't right, Like I don't like I would 1196 01:02:06.679 --> 01:02:09.079 understand more if it was Lad because you would also 1197 01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:11.599 have people outside of Toronto just being like, oh, Vlad Guerrero. 1198 01:02:11.719 --> 01:02:15.119 He's he's cool, right, like not thinking about it too much, 1199 01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:17.800 but obviously maybe he's getting less votes from the Jays 1200 01:02:18.320 --> 01:02:19.039 that already Clement. 1201 01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:20.239 Oh, they're probably mad at him. 1202 01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:24.960 Yeah, right, I don't understand the exact like mechanisms here. 1203 01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:27.639 And like again, I don't super care about the All 1204 01:02:27.679 --> 01:02:29.400 Star Game in twenty twenty six, which I don't know 1205 01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:31.159 if that's the problem for baseball but large or not. 1206 01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:36.039 But it's just very it is a little Eric Sogardy right, like, 1207 01:02:36.119 --> 01:02:38.039 I mean, he's a better player than Eric Sogardy. But 1208 01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:41.880 you know, I don't know should we be concerned that 1209 01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:43.920 like this has become kind of like the All Star 1210 01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:45.719 Game vote has become kind of a bit. 1211 01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:51.239 I mean, I think it's so hard for me to 1212 01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:53.320 care about the All Star Games, which, as you're saying, 1213 01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:55.320 is maybe maybe that's a problem. I don't know that 1214 01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:57.239 it is. I don't think anyone cares about any of 1215 01:02:57.280 --> 01:02:59.559 the sports all Star games? Is America too online? 1216 01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:05.719 The very yes, almost assured, Yeah, absolutely, there's too many posters. 1217 01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:11.119 Yeah, I it's I don't care. I don't care about this. 1218 01:03:11.360 --> 01:03:15.880 This is democracy, this is how it's. Yeah. But then 1219 01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:18.679 even when the ex you go back and whenever I 1220 01:03:18.840 --> 01:03:21.559 like look at like past whenever I do like an 1221 01:03:21.599 --> 01:03:23.320 old T and eighty four or something like that, I 1222 01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:25.320 look at old R Star games I'm like the experts 1223 01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:29.360 weren't any better at it, right, like time curdles all of. 1224 01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:33.599 These Well, to your point, it was the most deserving 1225 01:03:33.880 --> 01:03:39.079 Ezekiel Durn probably in terms of al second basement Jazz right. 1226 01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:42.360 Has better, at least recently. I mean, he's got his 1227 01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:44.760 own problems. 1228 01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:49.159 Yeah, I mean, you know, he's his problems are more notable. 1229 01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:53.000 But yeah, I mean he said worse than earning Clement. 1230 01:03:55.199 --> 01:03:58.280 Now again, this this also goes back to what is 1231 01:03:58.320 --> 01:03:59.800 the point of the All Star game? Right? Like Joe 1232 01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:02.800 always writes about this, is it a star? Is Ernie 1233 01:04:02.840 --> 01:04:03.480 Clement a star? 1234 01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:04.840 I mean I don't know. 1235 01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:06.960 Maybe the brief moment when he slid across home plate 1236 01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:07.960 and his helmet came off and. 1237 01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:09.480 He very very. 1238 01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:13.800 And he literally set the record for hitts in A playoffs. 1239 01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:15.880 So sure, but he's a star. 1240 01:04:16.280 --> 01:04:19.079 And who. 1241 01:04:21.800 --> 01:04:26.079 Nobody but Duran is not winning the position. He's Ernie 1242 01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:29.920 Clement is the top a L vote getter. There are 1243 01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:34.480 other stars in the a L. Right, Like the problem 1244 01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:43.480 Ernie get the most votes among al right, exactly, that's 1245 01:04:43.719 --> 01:04:50.039 that's the difference. Yeah, yeah, but is it like again 1246 01:04:50.280 --> 01:04:54.719 to your point, like, is this a problem? I know, whatever, 1247 01:04:54.960 --> 01:05:01.400 So like, no, it's fine, let's get it's weird, but 1248 01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:07.960 it's fine. Yeah, do we want to Is there anything 1249 01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:09.400 else to talk about? The All Star Game? 1250 01:05:10.159 --> 01:05:11.400 We might get a little more out of that than 1251 01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:13.719 we did, but I guess no one cares enough. 1252 01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:18.320 We could talk about what is the All Star Game? 1253 01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:18.840 I guess. 1254 01:05:21.199 --> 01:05:24.400 This is there's been a little like I feel like 1255 01:05:24.480 --> 01:05:25.159 the All Star Game? 1256 01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:26.000 Is U? 1257 01:05:26.559 --> 01:05:28.039 Is it on Netflix again this year? 1258 01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:29.679 It doesn't help right. 1259 01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:37.880 Now, but is more interesting? Right? I would rather watch 1260 01:05:37.960 --> 01:05:40.119 Junior Camonaro in the home run Derby than the All 1261 01:05:40.159 --> 01:05:44.000 Star Game. Oh yeah, even if they're changing the roles back. 1262 01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:49.480 We talk about and liken't I think it's miserable. Yeah, 1263 01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:52.559 I think it's stupid. The clock was the clock was 1264 01:05:52.599 --> 01:05:56.800 one of the best things they ever did. If you 1265 01:05:56.920 --> 01:06:00.239 go back and and I understand this is like any 1266 01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:03.400 so that the Homers also counts as a swing, which 1267 01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:05.559 they didn't used to, which is why it took forever. 1268 01:06:06.039 --> 01:06:08.599 I don't think that's that's that is an improvement from 1269 01:06:08.679 --> 01:06:12.960 the old system, the old old system, But they just 1270 01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:16.119 needed to shorten the clock well, and there was too 1271 01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:16.679 much time. 1272 01:06:17.159 --> 01:06:20.239 I didn't want the pitching to be such a major 1273 01:06:20.280 --> 01:06:23.159 factor in it, right, you had you had. 1274 01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:25.360 Guys, how fast you get rid of But they were. 1275 01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:30.639 Right, yeah, you don't. You know, some way I'll have. 1276 01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:34.320 A Lonzo's cousin and you'll be fine. 1277 01:06:34.840 --> 01:06:37.719 They also cocked it all up with with like the 1278 01:06:38.159 --> 01:06:40.000 if you hit this many balls over this. 1279 01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:42.400 Distance down they made it too complicated. 1280 01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:45.119 Making it complicated Jesus Christ. 1281 01:06:45.079 --> 01:06:47.960 Like, I guess this will make it easier for them 1282 01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:50.320 to film. They were actually having trouble tracking the balls 1283 01:06:51.239 --> 01:06:52.000 in the last few years. 1284 01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:53.039 I feel what they should do is. 1285 01:06:53.079 --> 01:06:55.440 Just make everybody in the in the outfield stands wear 1286 01:06:55.519 --> 01:06:57.800 a different colored shirt and it's just to get points 1287 01:06:57.840 --> 01:07:00.599 based on which color which is the ball. 1288 01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:06.519 Honestly, would probably be better. Yeah, I don't know. I 1289 01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:09.719 don't think it's gonna be it as much as it 1290 01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:12.760 was an issue tracking the ball, over seeing the next 1291 01:07:12.920 --> 01:07:17.960 pitch or whatever. It was man right, like you'd get that. 1292 01:07:18.119 --> 01:07:21.599 I didn't like the number of cuts rivaled a cooking 1293 01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:25.159 show on Food Network, which is never a good thing, 1294 01:07:25.480 --> 01:07:32.920 but it the stagnancy of waiting and like having the 1295 01:07:32.960 --> 01:07:35.920 guy watch a pitch and wait and then take a 1296 01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:39.000 swing and then gather themselves and wait like that is 1297 01:07:39.119 --> 01:07:45.199 gonna be worrying, is my prediction. I still think it's 1298 01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:47.239 gonna be. I don't know. I don't think that's an improvement. 1299 01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:54.079 All right, let's go to second and four around the horn. Jeffrey, 1300 01:07:54.920 --> 01:07:57.719 you kept putting in the chat. I did not track 1301 01:07:57.840 --> 01:07:59.719 this at all. I didn't get home until after this 1302 01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:04.159 game finished. So uh, Yankees frauds. 1303 01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:06.599 Let me get the exact quote that Aaron Boone had 1304 01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:12.880 after the Yankees got mopped they lost four straights to 1305 01:08:13.119 --> 01:08:19.159 the Boston Red Sox. Boone on not letting this snowball. 1306 01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:20.159 That's what we do. 1307 01:08:20.319 --> 01:08:20.600 Baby. 1308 01:08:20.760 --> 01:08:23.119 You gotta love this stuff. You gotta eat this stuff up. 1309 01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:26.039 It's a sickness. That's what the grind is. We got 1310 01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:28.600 a really good freaking team. We played crappy on this trip. 1311 01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:30.880 Feels bad, kind of pissed off, but it's what we do. 1312 01:08:32.279 --> 01:08:35.479 Car Carlos Mendoza's mentor. 1313 01:08:37.399 --> 01:08:39.039 To be clear, we couldn't do it. 1314 01:08:41.399 --> 01:08:43.159 I want to like we get this, like we get 1315 01:08:43.199 --> 01:08:44.760 a dramatic reading by Tim Robinson. 1316 01:08:44.840 --> 01:08:47.279 Okay, yeah, we need snapping behind. 1317 01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:54.800 Look wouldn't you rather that? I mean, like, I don't. 1318 01:08:55.079 --> 01:09:01.279 It feels there's some Tello said that I think it 1319 01:09:01.319 --> 01:09:06.359 would be awful. Aaron Boone says it. 1320 01:09:06.439 --> 01:09:08.079 And it's hello, you're oh, you're sweet? 1321 01:09:08.159 --> 01:09:09.720 Yeah corny and it. 1322 01:09:09.840 --> 01:09:13.119 Is like boom but like, yeah, there's the samages in 1323 01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:18.479 the box. Guy, I think you want got a bit. Yeah, 1324 01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:22.000 this is what Patrick's talking about. His bit is like 1325 01:09:22.439 --> 01:09:24.560 corny ship like lost. 1326 01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:26.399 Four straight to the twenty twenty six red Socks that 1327 01:09:26.439 --> 01:09:26.880 are now. 1328 01:09:27.039 --> 01:09:31.840 And that's played bad and behind kissed off and you've 1329 01:09:31.880 --> 01:09:35.000 gotta you want to be a sick oh, Craig, you 1330 01:09:35.119 --> 01:09:37.760 gotta eat this ship to and move on to the next. 1331 01:09:37.880 --> 01:09:41.800 And yeah, you definitely need you definitely need to wait 1332 01:09:42.279 --> 01:09:45.800 this question. Right, you were as a manager. Your team 1333 01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:47.439 is going to lose four games in a row to 1334 01:09:47.560 --> 01:09:50.680 a terrible team. Yeah, uh once or twice a year 1335 01:09:51.079 --> 01:09:53.079 and you were It's like, it's like when someone in 1336 01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:54.840 the office asks you how you are and you have 1337 01:09:54.920 --> 01:09:57.600 to have a couple like you have to decide without 1338 01:09:57.680 --> 01:09:59.439 telling them how you actually are because you don't want 1339 01:09:59.479 --> 01:10:01.079 to talk to them. You've got to come up with 1340 01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:03.199 a snappy yet original way of saying how you are 1341 01:10:03.560 --> 01:10:06.039 that ends the conversation. You need to end this conversation. 1342 01:10:06.119 --> 01:10:08.319 You need to you need an answer that goes I 1343 01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:11.520 acknowledge that this has taken place, and I would like 1344 01:10:11.560 --> 01:10:12.479 to talk about something else. 1345 01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:12.680 Now. 1346 01:10:13.039 --> 01:10:17.359 I had a senior vice president many years ago who 1347 01:10:17.399 --> 01:10:20.239 would always answer that question, I couldn't possibly be better, 1348 01:10:20.960 --> 01:10:23.239 which is like both annoying but also a good way to. 1349 01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:27.079 You don't want to you don't want to ask another one. 1350 01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:30.479 It's enough words. Yeah, it's like it breaks the flow of. 1351 01:10:32.119 --> 01:10:34.680 All you can say to that is like, all right, 1352 01:10:37.880 --> 01:10:40.560 I'm going to keep walking like I'm not like if 1353 01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:42.520 I think about this, you too long, I don't. 1354 01:10:42.319 --> 01:10:44.479 Want to talk to someone who couldn't possibly be better. 1355 01:10:47.760 --> 01:10:51.159 And also always like it's always still tied for first guys. 1356 01:10:51.359 --> 01:10:55.840 Yeah, I'm the cal ripkin of doing well. 1357 01:10:56.159 --> 01:11:01.279 Yeah, unbelievable. That's that's a solid answer, Now I do 1358 01:11:01.600 --> 01:11:04.359 I kind of I don't know what do you want 1359 01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:04.920 him to say? 1360 01:11:07.159 --> 01:11:11.119 Maybe not exactly that in that phrasing and that order, but. 1361 01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:16.840 I don't know. I think as far as manager answers 1362 01:11:16.960 --> 01:11:20.319 go in the situations, it's it's like not bad. 1363 01:11:20.479 --> 01:11:23.199 Maybe it's actually more Will Ferrell and old school like 1364 01:11:23.279 --> 01:11:24.880 that way, the dramatic reading you want. 1365 01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:27.319 Yeah, I think that's real harm. 1366 01:11:29.439 --> 01:11:31.199 No, I don't think it's like that kind of it's 1367 01:11:31.199 --> 01:11:33.159 not laid back enough, it's not jazzy enough. 1368 01:11:35.520 --> 01:11:37.520 I think I think Will Ferrell in Old School is 1369 01:11:38.279 --> 01:11:39.119 a good shout. 1370 01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:42.479 Like that where his shoulders are back and he's up 1371 01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:44.039 in like a higher register than normally. 1372 01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:47.119 Yeah, or possibly even Will Ferrell from from kicking and 1373 01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:54.680 screaming the Will Farrell one to elsewhere. Wyatt Langford is 1374 01:11:54.800 --> 01:12:00.439 back on the I l for the for his place 1375 01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:04.560 EXAs Rangers. Yeah, you guys did talk about him. 1376 01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:07.079 He'd been very good since coming back off the IL 1377 01:12:07.199 --> 01:12:10.520 last time a real heater or how many games? It's 1378 01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:11.159 like two weeks. 1379 01:12:11.439 --> 01:12:15.359 I think it was two weeks. Yeah, I just I 1380 01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:18.600 was I caught up on the plane ride back when 1381 01:12:18.600 --> 01:12:22.640 I wasn't watching Project so Mary and Uh. I was 1382 01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:24.840 just like, oh, they're talking about why at Langford being 1383 01:12:24.880 --> 01:12:31.199 good and like I know he's on the ile. Yeah, yeah, 1384 01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:33.239 he was OS plus. Yeah. 1385 01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:35.640 Yeah. 1386 01:12:35.680 --> 01:12:37.840 As it turns out, he's just good. Every year he's 1387 01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:40.239 just not maybe he'll play one hundred third can he 1388 01:12:40.279 --> 01:12:42.399 play one hundred and thirty four games exactly? 1389 01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:44.840 Again, he was back for almost exactly three weeks. 1390 01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:47.079 Okay, the Texas Rangers. 1391 01:12:47.279 --> 01:12:48.199 Oops, all seekers. 1392 01:12:48.840 --> 01:12:50.239 Yeah is it? 1393 01:12:50.359 --> 01:12:50.720 Oops? 1394 01:12:51.720 --> 01:12:58.640 Yeah, design Evan Carter of course play again. Yeah, back 1395 01:12:58.680 --> 01:12:59.560 off the il. 1396 01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:01.800 For how long? 1397 01:13:02.479 --> 01:13:05.840 That's a good question. Maybe is he Gil Durant will 1398 01:13:05.880 --> 01:13:07.199 make it as a left fielder to the All Star 1399 01:13:07.279 --> 01:13:07.880 Game at this point? 1400 01:13:08.199 --> 01:13:08.720 That's true. 1401 01:13:09.479 --> 01:13:11.520 I will say why at Langford in June, which is 1402 01:13:11.800 --> 01:13:14.600 covers the three weeks that he played three seventeen, three 1403 01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:16.000 seventy one, six thirty four. 1404 01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:20.079 Yeah, that's very good, that's very good. Yeah, I mean 1405 01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:24.239 you guys, you guys covered this. But Josh Young really good, 1406 01:13:24.600 --> 01:13:25.560 Jake Berger. 1407 01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:28.840 Solid good enough, Peter Peterson good enough. 1408 01:13:29.119 --> 01:13:32.119 Durroan good enough, Jack Peterson very very good. I mean 1409 01:13:32.760 --> 01:13:36.880 he is a DH but Jack Peterson, yeah, justin foscue. 1410 01:13:37.479 --> 01:13:41.840 Yeah, the correct way of saying is age like just 1411 01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:42.319 the tone. 1412 01:13:44.239 --> 01:13:47.640 Yeah, I mean, I as I continue my bit for 1413 01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:50.239 last week, you're describing a five hundred team. 1414 01:13:50.399 --> 01:13:52.279 But yeah, yeah, right, no, and you I laughed. I 1415 01:13:52.359 --> 01:13:54.600 laughed at that, and it's correct. I mean, that's all. 1416 01:13:55.880 --> 01:13:57.840 That's all correct. You're describing a five hundred team in 1417 01:13:57.880 --> 01:14:01.279 five hundred is good enough? Right now? 1418 01:14:03.159 --> 01:14:06.319 The Astros only a game out of first now, I think, uh. 1419 01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:10.039 The Astros are a game out. Parers are half game out, 1420 01:14:10.479 --> 01:14:15.159 the Athletics are two games out. This is such I 1421 01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:17.399 kept thinking about this. We'll listen, and I know I 1422 01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:19.960 talked to that. It's just such a weird season. 1423 01:14:20.119 --> 01:14:22.720 The Ale Central is getting a bye in the playoffs. 1424 01:14:22.760 --> 01:14:24.920 I feel like the A. 1425 01:14:27.279 --> 01:14:30.800 I don't know. I don't think it's right. I know 1426 01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:32.960 I've said this before, but I don't know that I'm 1427 01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:34.920 right to say, like, is this what people want out 1428 01:14:34.960 --> 01:14:37.960 of parody? But like, none of the this is almost 1429 01:14:38.079 --> 01:14:40.479 like our good are like really supposed to be good 1430 01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:43.399 or like even And the bigger problem is, I think 1431 01:14:43.439 --> 01:14:45.239 it's great when a team that isn't supposed to be 1432 01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:48.279 good is good. I don't think it's believably good. 1433 01:14:48.399 --> 01:14:50.680 I don't think this is a parody. I think this 1434 01:14:50.760 --> 01:14:52.920 is just a weird thing. I don't think this is 1435 01:14:52.920 --> 01:14:54.840 specifically like if. 1436 01:14:54.960 --> 01:14:57.199 This is kind of what people want out of parenty, 1437 01:14:57.279 --> 01:14:59.560 I guess that it's all like you don't know, and 1438 01:14:59.680 --> 01:15:00.520 it just just happened. 1439 01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:04.119 But none of them are good, right, none of these people. 1440 01:15:03.880 --> 01:15:08.760 Are bothering me? Right? The Dodgers are good, right, like 1441 01:15:08.920 --> 01:15:10.720 the the Brewers are good. 1442 01:15:11.279 --> 01:15:13.760 It would be a good story if the A's were 1443 01:15:13.880 --> 01:15:17.399 actually good and won that division, right, yes, but if 1444 01:15:17.399 --> 01:15:19.920 they win it by going by winning like eighty four games, 1445 01:15:20.039 --> 01:15:22.199 I don't think they'll actually get to but like if 1446 01:15:22.239 --> 01:15:26.199 they did hypothetically, like it doesn't feel as good. I 1447 01:15:26.359 --> 01:15:28.399 understand that, But I think this is just a weird year. 1448 01:15:29.560 --> 01:15:31.439 It is definitely it's just a weird year. 1449 01:15:31.840 --> 01:15:34.439 There are four teams in the American League about five hundred. 1450 01:15:34.279 --> 01:15:37.079 Right now, right like this like two unusual. And look, 1451 01:15:37.079 --> 01:15:38.840 the Mariners have had a lot of injuries, right like, 1452 01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:43.039 especially on the lineup side of things. Good, but like 1453 01:15:44.079 --> 01:15:47.960 also like it's not that like so if the Mariners 1454 01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:50.880 hadn't actually been good last year, we'd just be like, oh, 1455 01:15:50.960 --> 01:15:53.000 this is the Mariners, Like this is what the Mariners do. 1456 01:15:53.479 --> 01:15:54.359 Oh, we can still do that. 1457 01:15:54.520 --> 01:15:56.079 We can still do that because it's only been like 1458 01:15:56.399 --> 01:15:59.279 like the twenty twenty five suddenly looks like the outlier. 1459 01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:03.880 I think it's gonna be really great when MLB has 1460 01:16:04.520 --> 01:16:07.960 four out of six AL teams be eighty four wins 1461 01:16:08.359 --> 01:16:11.079 or less in the playoffs, and I don't know how 1462 01:16:11.119 --> 01:16:14.199 many in the NL. The NL's better, but it's still 1463 01:16:14.239 --> 01:16:17.000 gonna be like eighty like multiple eighty seven win teams 1464 01:16:17.399 --> 01:16:20.359 in the playoffs, and then they're gonna it's just gonna 1465 01:16:20.359 --> 01:16:25.079 be mediocre fest in the playoffs, and then they're gonna 1466 01:16:25.119 --> 01:16:28.920 go into a lockout and then put in peril their 1467 01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:32.279 twenty twenty eight media rights that they all bundled for 1468 01:16:32.399 --> 01:16:35.439 that year. It's just gonna be spectacular to go into 1469 01:16:36.079 --> 01:16:39.279 a nothing off season that they're gonna have this this 1470 01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:43.399 labor debate over coming off in a season in which 1471 01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:47.079 you can't credibly say more than like three teams in 1472 01:16:47.119 --> 01:16:48.720 the entire league are any good? 1473 01:16:48.960 --> 01:16:54.880 Right, like what we definitely need to It's like Cardinals 1474 01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:57.560 Guardians World Series while they're trying to say we need 1475 01:16:57.640 --> 01:17:03.119 a salary cap, right, Yeah, very don't do in there. 1476 01:17:03.279 --> 01:17:06.840 Yeah sure they were one of the good teams, but 1477 01:17:06.880 --> 01:17:11.039 it would still be bad for the market aspect of 1478 01:17:11.119 --> 01:17:16.800 the argument. Elsewhere, speaking of some uh some bad, some 1479 01:17:16.960 --> 01:17:21.640 mediocre teams, Chase the Laughter is back for the Guardians. 1480 01:17:22.880 --> 01:17:27.319 The Guardians tied for first place, but forty four and 1481 01:17:27.439 --> 01:17:31.960 forty Yes, surprising to me that he's back already from 1482 01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:35.600 a I guess it's a small fracture in his ribs, 1483 01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:36.760 but it's still a rib fracture. 1484 01:17:37.159 --> 01:17:39.880 Can't think it's uncomfortable. Yeah, I guess it's just maybe 1485 01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:42.119 it's a pain tolerance thing at this point, which I'm 1486 01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:44.399 sure he's used to things hurting on his body. 1487 01:17:44.279 --> 01:17:47.479 So I am sure he is a big deal for 1488 01:17:47.560 --> 01:17:50.039 their lineup. As we discussed the guy's leaving, but for 1489 01:17:50.159 --> 01:17:54.000 him to be back is certainly notable. Adley Rutchman and 1490 01:17:54.159 --> 01:17:56.159 Dylan Beavers are back for Baltimore. 1491 01:17:59.399 --> 01:18:00.720 Don't they need they need? 1492 01:18:01.479 --> 01:18:03.479 Yeah? Yeah, they need them. I will. 1493 01:18:04.159 --> 01:18:06.319 Michael Oasa said they're going to be buyers at the deadline, 1494 01:18:06.319 --> 01:18:08.800 which I mean, I guess I did. I did see 1495 01:18:08.840 --> 01:18:10.359 that when they're like three and a half out of 1496 01:18:10.359 --> 01:18:10.840 a playoffs. 1497 01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:15.920 So why not, Well, because thirty nine and forty six, 1498 01:18:15.960 --> 01:18:16.479 they're only the. 1499 01:18:16.520 --> 01:18:20.840 Man out three out right now? Yeah, the third. 1500 01:18:20.880 --> 01:18:24.680 While I do believe the like this is, this is 1501 01:18:24.680 --> 01:18:26.760 again a symptom of the weirdness of the season. I 1502 01:18:27.520 --> 01:18:30.159 need people to know. I understand. I'm eating I'm looking 1503 01:18:30.239 --> 01:18:31.079 bad on this right now. 1504 01:18:31.279 --> 01:18:33.560 Right there's not even like normally you think, oh, there're 1505 01:18:33.600 --> 01:18:35.279 seven under, but they're three out. There's gotta be a 1506 01:18:35.319 --> 01:18:37.399 lot of teams between them. In the wild card, there's 1507 01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:39.600 not that many. There's not that there's not There's a few, 1508 01:18:39.680 --> 01:18:40.520 but there's not that many. 1509 01:18:40.800 --> 01:18:43.560 I continue to look at the Orioles roster and think 1510 01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:46.600 it I say roster, but like the good players on 1511 01:18:46.600 --> 01:18:48.520 the Orioles and say, it makes more sense to me 1512 01:18:48.600 --> 01:18:51.359 if they're good than the race. She really does. I don't. 1513 01:18:53.159 --> 01:18:55.920 This is I guess, just a personal flaw. I understand that, 1514 01:18:56.000 --> 01:18:57.079 and I understand they're not helping. 1515 01:18:57.119 --> 01:18:58.439 You don't believe in Ben Williams. 1516 01:18:58.520 --> 01:19:02.760 And fine, I do not leaving Ben Williams exactly, but 1517 01:19:03.079 --> 01:19:05.720 and and look, I will struggle to believe in the 1518 01:19:05.800 --> 01:19:08.760 Orioles as long as Samuel Bissio continues to play like 1519 01:19:08.920 --> 01:19:11.600 through the wrist and just let him rest, please, But 1520 01:19:11.800 --> 01:19:15.479 like this is part of my They should be buyers, 1521 01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:17.439 the Orioles should be. I mean, I listened to this 1522 01:19:17.479 --> 01:19:20.680 whole discussion you guys had with Colin on the Tigers, right, 1523 01:19:20.720 --> 01:19:23.840 Like the Tigers should probably be buyers. They were, but 1524 01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:27.079 they probably shouldn't be. Like they should be based on 1525 01:19:27.159 --> 01:19:28.920 the roster, not the performance. 1526 01:19:28.920 --> 01:19:30.880 If the Tigers were seven under, i'd said they should 1527 01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:31.760 definitely be buyers. 1528 01:19:32.800 --> 01:19:34.520 Yeah, yeah, they're fourteen under. 1529 01:19:35.159 --> 01:19:35.720 That's a problem. 1530 01:19:36.159 --> 01:19:38.680 They also and again thank you to Colin, they have 1531 01:19:38.760 --> 01:19:39.439 a better run. 1532 01:19:39.560 --> 01:19:43.800 Ru Well, the White Sox one just went up by 1533 01:19:43.840 --> 01:19:44.119 a lot. 1534 01:19:44.399 --> 01:19:50.720 So yeah, yeah, so uh let me see where. Oh 1535 01:19:50.800 --> 01:19:55.640 and Carter, we mentioned that you have a couple of 1536 01:19:55.720 --> 01:20:00.359 call ups Jeffrey in uh In in Cooper Ingle speaking 1537 01:20:00.399 --> 01:20:02.159 of the Guardians, I. 1538 01:20:02.159 --> 01:20:03.920 Guess he's gonna stick out. He had been dhing. I 1539 01:20:03.960 --> 01:20:05.479 wonder if he's going to stick around. I don't think 1540 01:20:05.520 --> 01:20:06.800 he was a move for the laughter, but. 1541 01:20:08.239 --> 01:20:09.840 No, it was p D helping. 1542 01:20:10.079 --> 01:20:11.159 Oh, yes, right is helping. 1543 01:20:11.199 --> 01:20:15.600 Previously mentioned p D helping was the move for the 1544 01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:25.319 latter and I'm gonna it's Miguel Yolaola Yes for the Astros. Right, 1545 01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:26.039 he's still with this. 1546 01:20:26.199 --> 01:20:28.279 Yes, he's a reliever now too. So I mean, look, 1547 01:20:28.279 --> 01:20:29.079 they need a reliever. 1548 01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:31.560 Do you do you have any Do you wanted to 1549 01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:33.279 quick run down at least on Ingle? 1550 01:20:33.840 --> 01:20:33.960 Uh? 1551 01:20:34.039 --> 01:20:34.239 Yeah. 1552 01:20:34.399 --> 01:20:39.079 Ingle is a catcher by trade, although he has started 1553 01:20:39.119 --> 01:20:41.399 getting some He played a little corner outfield in college. 1554 01:20:41.399 --> 01:20:44.359 He started getting a little more corner outfield time in 1555 01:20:44.399 --> 01:20:48.079 Triple A this year. I'm sure, just to keep flexibility. 1556 01:20:48.239 --> 01:20:51.840 He's a perfectly fine defensive catcher, which should be a 1557 01:20:51.920 --> 01:20:56.199 perfectly adequate hitter, you know, He's generally run pretty high 1558 01:20:56.199 --> 01:20:58.840 batting averages in the minors. I think given his swing 1559 01:20:58.960 --> 01:21:02.399 rate and contact rate, that might not hold up in 1560 01:21:02.479 --> 01:21:06.319 the majors. He's the ball reasonably hard like it's a 1561 01:21:06.479 --> 01:21:11.000 very somewhere between ninety five and one oh five ops 1562 01:21:11.079 --> 01:21:14.960 plus catcher kind of profile that can also play a 1563 01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:17.359 few other spots and be an average hitter, which is 1564 01:21:17.399 --> 01:21:19.439 something that the Guardians need because they well, you would 1565 01:21:19.439 --> 01:21:21.640 want better than that in left field or DH. They 1566 01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:24.760 don't necessarily have that in left field and DH right now. 1567 01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:31.960 And he's always it's good fastball, good breaking ball, has 1568 01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:33.119 not always known where it's going. 1569 01:21:35.159 --> 01:21:36.079 It sounds like a reliever. 1570 01:21:36.279 --> 01:21:39.079 Yeah, there could be like some them Diddy air Flinta's 1571 01:21:39.119 --> 01:21:40.600 here right where he might just figure it out a 1572 01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:43.159 relief and be pretty dominant. 1573 01:21:46.560 --> 01:21:50.680 Lastly, in some news that that would be a boon 1574 01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:53.720 to a lot of people. Yeah, honestly, do people care 1575 01:21:53.760 --> 01:21:58.159 about this for for reasons beyond player performance. But Carlos 1576 01:21:58.199 --> 01:22:04.239 Santana has signed a minor league with Atlanta. I think 1577 01:22:04.319 --> 01:22:06.640 he would be the oldest position player. 1578 01:22:08.359 --> 01:22:11.960 In the league, right, I would assume, so Rowdy tells 1579 01:22:12.079 --> 01:22:13.760 is up in the majors, So they need a new 1580 01:22:13.840 --> 01:22:17.279 Rowdy Tells and Triple A to keep that to keep 1581 01:22:17.960 --> 01:22:19.800 to keep Quinnette's like average age. 1582 01:22:20.680 --> 01:22:22.159 And Tom Smith on the same roster. 1583 01:22:22.479 --> 01:22:29.520 And they do have Carlos I love, like, I don't 1584 01:22:29.560 --> 01:22:31.920 know what the exact number is, but that is such 1585 01:22:31.960 --> 01:22:33.880 an old Triple A team. I think it's the oldest 1586 01:22:33.880 --> 01:22:35.199 Triple A team obviously. 1587 01:22:35.279 --> 01:22:37.720 Long time you brought this up. They just yeah, because 1588 01:22:37.720 --> 01:22:42.399 they just they just like those guys, guys who would 1589 01:22:42.439 --> 01:22:48.680 start for the Angels. All right, that takes us to 1590 01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:49.319 our game. 1591 01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:53.960 Okay, so this one was a user submitted game user 1592 01:22:54.279 --> 01:22:55.399 listeners submitted game. 1593 01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:00.199 Listening a. 1594 01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:06.239 Podcast you acts anyway, probably good. 1595 01:23:06.920 --> 01:23:09.359 So AJ sent this in like a couple of weeks ago, 1596 01:23:09.520 --> 01:23:11.199 and I lost track of it because I lose track 1597 01:23:11.279 --> 01:23:13.520 of all of them. But and then we had, you know, 1598 01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:16.319 guests coming, so but we we haven't now, so we're 1599 01:23:16.399 --> 01:23:20.600 going to play prices, right. AJ has supplied us with 1600 01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:27.199 I believe twelve items that he found. Yeah, twelve items, 1601 01:23:28.159 --> 01:23:30.359 and uh so I can play too. We're all going 1602 01:23:30.399 --> 01:23:34.079 to guess the cost of the item and then this is. 1603 01:23:34.119 --> 01:23:36.000 Like in team stores or eBay, what's like? 1604 01:23:36.159 --> 01:23:38.720 So, so half of them are from the MLB Shop, 1605 01:23:38.920 --> 01:23:41.600 four from MLB options, and two of them are from 1606 01:23:41.760 --> 01:23:45.000 random websites as far as I can tell, Uh, So, 1607 01:23:45.159 --> 01:23:46.479 what we'll do, we'll just all do it together. 1608 01:23:46.520 --> 01:23:47.600 And I don't know what I would have done with 1609 01:23:47.680 --> 01:23:48.640 that information anyway. 1610 01:23:50.399 --> 01:23:53.439 Yeah, I don't know, you know, maybe like factor in 1611 01:23:53.520 --> 01:23:55.720 some inflation and I guess, I don't know. I'm not 1612 01:23:55.880 --> 01:23:58.000 I'm not trying that hard. We'll just kind of like 1613 01:23:58.079 --> 01:23:59.479 we'll do it as group and we'll just kind of 1614 01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:02.560 take turns going first or whatever, justin numbers whenever you 1615 01:24:02.640 --> 01:24:06.039 want to your first item. The twenty twenty five Los 1616 01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:11.399 Angeles Dodgers World Series game use Dirt Jar bundle from 1617 01:24:11.520 --> 01:24:14.479 a bundle of dirt two, three, six. 1618 01:24:14.399 --> 01:24:17.720 And okay all their home games different games. 1619 01:24:18.159 --> 01:24:22.399 Yeah, how much do you think of So this would 1620 01:24:22.399 --> 01:24:24.520 be twenty twenty twenty five. 1621 01:24:25.960 --> 01:24:27.560 Last year they played four home games. 1622 01:24:27.720 --> 01:24:30.560 Yeah, but it's a Dodgers bundle. But they played those games. 1623 01:24:32.199 --> 01:24:36.479 We're in Toronto. Wait, you said seven, I said, I 1624 01:24:36.600 --> 01:24:39.000 said two, three, six and seven. I'm reading off the 1625 01:24:39.079 --> 01:24:43.199 sheet man. Okay, so those are both home and away games. 1626 01:24:43.119 --> 01:24:46.800 Okay, okay, whatever, and they it's the ones they won, 1627 01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:49.000 the one they want the ones they won. Okay, so 1628 01:24:49.119 --> 01:24:50.760 it's a you get a mixed but you get get 1629 01:24:50.840 --> 01:24:54.600 losing dirt. You get Canadian dirt and American dirt, but 1630 01:24:54.760 --> 01:24:56.640 all victory dirt. Victory dirt. 1631 01:24:56.760 --> 01:24:59.039 Yes, it doesn't. 1632 01:24:59.159 --> 01:25:02.119 The description is not telling you how much of the 1633 01:25:02.199 --> 01:25:02.840 dirt you get. 1634 01:25:02.920 --> 01:25:05.000 What's what's killing me here is like I have the 1635 01:25:05.079 --> 01:25:08.600 game from where they are kind of a left a 1636 01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:09.600 slid for some reason. 1637 01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:14.760 I have. I have browsed the memorabilia stuff after the 1638 01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:17.560 World Series, so I know some of these costs. I 1639 01:25:18.279 --> 01:25:20.119 have seen dirt. I have not seen a dirt, But 1640 01:25:20.359 --> 01:25:22.119 how much I've seen dirt, I don't know. 1641 01:25:22.239 --> 01:25:23.840 We don't know how much dirt and how much dirt 1642 01:25:24.319 --> 01:25:25.880 and the jars. 1643 01:25:26.039 --> 01:25:29.159 Like the like what a dirt. I've just never actually how. 1644 01:25:29.159 --> 01:25:30.399 Much dirt is too much dirt? 1645 01:25:30.479 --> 01:25:33.960 I guess for me we might get to that later. 1646 01:25:34.119 --> 01:25:42.159 Eight hundred and fifty dollars fifty dollars who I don't know. 1647 01:25:42.840 --> 01:25:45.159 I'm going to go yeah, I'm going to go with 1648 01:25:46.119 --> 01:25:46.720 three hundred. 1649 01:25:47.800 --> 01:25:51.079 Okay, so this is this is closest without going over. 1650 01:25:51.199 --> 01:25:55.000 I think it's just I was all set to go 1651 01:25:55.079 --> 01:26:01.880 into one. All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna say, like 1652 01:26:01.920 --> 01:26:02.720 seventy five bucks. 1653 01:26:02.960 --> 01:26:07.439 Seventy five bucks. Wow, Okay, all right, art you guys, 1654 01:26:09.720 --> 01:26:12.079 Andre Dawson Chicago Cubs. 1655 01:26:11.880 --> 01:26:12.800 Are at the end. 1656 01:26:13.039 --> 01:26:16.159 Yeah, but yeah, all the answers I can, oh, you guys, 1657 01:26:16.880 --> 01:26:18.000 I got yeah, yeah. 1658 01:26:18.760 --> 01:26:23.840 Andre Dawson Chicago Cubs, autograph Fanatics, authentic black rawlings, pro bat. 1659 01:26:26.720 --> 01:26:31.239 A Bottograph, bat audiky And I got to think back 1660 01:26:31.239 --> 01:26:35.760 to absolutely, Andre, Andre, I'm trying. 1661 01:26:35.760 --> 01:26:37.520 I got to think back to the autograph that was 1662 01:26:37.560 --> 01:26:41.079 the average on that, which was like three twenty. 1663 01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:42.439 I wrote it. I think I threw out the you 1664 01:26:42.520 --> 01:26:42.800 were making. 1665 01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:45.520 You still have a piece of paper on your dad 1666 01:26:46.680 --> 01:26:47.399 two months ago. 1667 01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:50.359 It's too it's covered by each I've got ship on 1668 01:26:50.439 --> 01:26:50.680 my jack. 1669 01:26:53.199 --> 01:26:55.159 I will say three hundred and fifty dollars. 1670 01:26:55.520 --> 01:26:58.439 Fifty dollars, twenty five or twenty five. I'm gonna take 1671 01:26:58.520 --> 01:26:59.920 high on this one. I'm gonna go with six. 1672 01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:02.920 Wow, he's a Hall of Fame. 1673 01:27:03.840 --> 01:27:07.319 One Sodo New York Men's game. Used dirt display? 1674 01:27:08.239 --> 01:27:10.439 What using the dirt? 1675 01:27:10.920 --> 01:27:12.359 What is a dirt display? 1676 01:27:13.640 --> 01:27:14.239 Used dirt? 1677 01:27:15.119 --> 01:27:17.119 How do you know what? So touched the. 1678 01:27:17.159 --> 01:27:21.840 Dirt, disparaging dirt repeatedly. I do want to say, like 1679 01:27:21.920 --> 01:27:24.319 The one instance I found movie of of dirt was 1680 01:27:24.359 --> 01:27:28.920 when they were in Oakland. When they were the franchise 1681 01:27:29.079 --> 01:27:31.359 was leaving and people were they were shoveling dirt and 1682 01:27:31.399 --> 01:27:33.439 for people, I thought that was amazing. I thought that 1683 01:27:33.560 --> 01:27:38.920 was such a great thing. But otherwise, stop stop purchasing dirt. 1684 01:27:40.199 --> 01:27:42.119 So it's just like a picture of one soda with 1685 01:27:42.199 --> 01:27:42.920 a jar of dirt. 1686 01:27:43.039 --> 01:27:46.079 Is that what this is? Yeah? It's what is a 1687 01:27:46.199 --> 01:27:47.039 dirt display? 1688 01:27:48.079 --> 01:27:51.319 Maybe they maybe the draw I feel. 1689 01:27:51.079 --> 01:27:52.840 Like I should, but I don't know. If it's like 1690 01:27:53.000 --> 01:27:54.359 unfair information advantage. 1691 01:27:56.359 --> 01:27:56.680 I don't know. 1692 01:27:57.600 --> 01:27:58.920 Two and fifty dollars? 1693 01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:03.319 No, man, can you tell me the name of it? 1694 01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:04.880 Greig's going ten bucks? 1695 01:28:05.520 --> 01:28:10.720 What? What? What is the name of one? 1696 01:28:10.880 --> 01:28:13.960 Soto New York Mets game used dirt display. 1697 01:28:14.199 --> 01:28:17.640 So the dirt is dirt is not done, but not 1698 01:28:17.960 --> 01:28:21.479 the one is there there? 1699 01:28:21.640 --> 01:28:21.800 You know? 1700 01:28:21.960 --> 01:28:23.640 You know those where is the hyphen? 1701 01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:27.520 Remember those oil and sand things? This might be too 1702 01:28:27.600 --> 01:28:29.720 early for you where you over and then you watch 1703 01:28:29.760 --> 01:28:32.399 the oil trick through. I think it's that, but a 1704 01:28:32.520 --> 01:28:35.239 picture one soda behind it so that you see the. 1705 01:28:35.319 --> 01:28:36.920 Face backlit one. 1706 01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:42.600 So I'm gonna say, fifty bucks. 1707 01:28:43.119 --> 01:28:47.399 You would crack Creig is a anti dirt. 1708 01:28:52.880 --> 01:28:57.000 Actually, are you displaying dirt? I think Jeff's. 1709 01:28:57.880 --> 01:29:04.000 Where's the dirty dirt comes after the I don't know. 1710 01:29:04.079 --> 01:29:05.039 That's what the yard is. 1711 01:29:07.560 --> 01:29:09.760 I think Jeff's actually pretty close to this one. I'm 1712 01:29:09.800 --> 01:29:16.359 gonna go with two hundred Washington Nationals Fanatics authentic game 1713 01:29:16.479 --> 01:29:21.239 used lineup card versus Detroit Tigers on June eleventh, twenty 1714 01:29:21.319 --> 01:29:26.880 twenty four. Lineup cards are weird. 1715 01:29:27.159 --> 01:29:29.600 They are weird. I'm gonna say, like, sixty bucks. 1716 01:29:30.159 --> 01:29:34.199 Sixty bucks, all right, I'm gonna go one hundred and fifty. 1717 01:29:35.319 --> 01:29:37.760 Wow, that's too much for Nats and Tigers, like I 1718 01:29:37.840 --> 01:29:38.159 know they. 1719 01:29:39.760 --> 01:29:43.279 I feel so out of a thirty bucks. They're thirty bucks. 1720 01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:46.960 You couldn't. No one is faying for more. Who's pain, 1721 01:29:48.159 --> 01:29:52.880 Craig A Burger Cross thirty bucks? These days? Burger gots 1722 01:29:52.920 --> 01:29:55.279 thirty Yeah? 1723 01:29:58.159 --> 01:30:02.239 Nice Patler, Freida bran Land, some carolized onions, Yeah all right. 1724 01:30:02.399 --> 01:30:08.039 Joe Adell Los Angeles Angels autograph Fanatics authentic blonde rollings 1725 01:30:08.119 --> 01:30:08.680 pro bat. 1726 01:30:10.399 --> 01:30:12.720 Okay, so it's an autograph, bat, it's an autograph. It's 1727 01:30:12.840 --> 01:30:14.359 Joe Adele autogratograph bat. 1728 01:30:14.479 --> 01:30:17.880 Yeah, yeah, I I. 1729 01:30:18.079 --> 01:30:21.680 Will say I think this one's two fifty. 1730 01:30:22.239 --> 01:30:26.359 Say two wow? Okay, I was gonna say two ten, 1731 01:30:26.399 --> 01:30:27.760 but I want to give myself a little more room, 1732 01:30:27.800 --> 01:30:29.000 Sirs Patrick picked two fifty. 1733 01:30:29.239 --> 01:30:31.439 Yeah, well you really put me in a buying Yeah 1734 01:30:32.359 --> 01:30:36.159 that's your guess first. Yeah, well, well, wouldn't it helped? 1735 01:30:36.199 --> 01:30:38.199 I was gonna say like two twenty five, and that's 1736 01:30:38.319 --> 01:30:41.199 like right in the well, we are summing the differences, 1737 01:30:41.279 --> 01:30:43.680 so you you just shouldn't guess what you think is 1738 01:30:43.720 --> 01:30:44.000 the most. 1739 01:30:45.720 --> 01:30:47.880 I think he's probably been either he's either winning or 1740 01:30:47.960 --> 01:30:50.199 been eliminated by the That's right. 1741 01:30:52.800 --> 01:30:54.520 It's all locked up one way or the other. 1742 01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:55.880 Uh. 1743 01:30:56.439 --> 01:30:59.880 Yeah, I'm gonna say two twenty five. Okay, who you are? 1744 01:30:59.880 --> 01:31:05.000 Adriga Seattle Mariners Autograph Fanatics Authentic Fielding Funko Pop Vinyl 1745 01:31:05.079 --> 01:31:09.359 Figurine with twenty twenty two Ale Rookie of the Year inscription. 1746 01:31:10.319 --> 01:31:15.800 Boy I autographed funko pop, so I don't think negative 1747 01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:18.199 values count, but I would I'm tempted. 1748 01:31:19.800 --> 01:31:21.720 I truly don't know what a funko pop. 1749 01:31:21.800 --> 01:31:23.920 I just bought a bunch of fun pop. I bought 1750 01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:26.039 a funko pop for another kid's birthday party. 1751 01:31:26.279 --> 01:31:30.439 Oh I know ro no, whatever they wanted to. 1752 01:31:30.960 --> 01:31:32.760 There wasn't a lot of K Pop demon on her stuff. 1753 01:31:32.760 --> 01:31:32.800 It. 1754 01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:39.239 I will say seventy five dollars. 1755 01:31:39.079 --> 01:31:49.439 Seventy five dollars, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say one 1756 01:31:49.479 --> 01:31:52.199 hundred bucks. One hundred bucks. I am a yet again 1757 01:31:52.920 --> 01:31:54.720 high man here and I'm gonna say one twenty five. 1758 01:31:55.600 --> 01:32:00.199 Okay, uh, this is the buy now price. It's this 1759 01:32:00.279 --> 01:32:03.600 has not been bought of a twenty twenty four team 1760 01:32:03.720 --> 01:32:07.960 issued autographed regular season locker tag for Mike Gastremsky. 1761 01:32:09.439 --> 01:32:10.840 So I like a little like. 1762 01:32:12.680 --> 01:32:14.560 My brain shut down midway through that. 1763 01:32:15.560 --> 01:32:19.000 You're you're a little buying a packard with Mike Gastremsky's 1764 01:32:19.079 --> 01:32:20.199 name and autograph. 1765 01:32:20.239 --> 01:32:32.119 One sixty five dollars, sixty five dollars, God. 1766 01:32:32.760 --> 01:32:36.000 I honestly can't even Yeah, it's probably right around there. 1767 01:32:36.079 --> 01:32:37.239 I'm going to say a hundred. 1768 01:32:37.960 --> 01:32:40.199 It might be after I said it, that might be 1769 01:32:40.239 --> 01:32:40.760 a little low. 1770 01:32:42.279 --> 01:32:45.600 I'll split the difference. I'm gonna say eighty bucks eighty 1771 01:32:45.680 --> 01:32:46.000 All right. 1772 01:32:48.159 --> 01:32:50.680 Now we're on lev so these have been you know, 1773 01:32:50.800 --> 01:32:53.119 starting with that. When we're on auctions now, obviously instead 1774 01:32:53.119 --> 01:32:56.720 of the shop the buy now price of a Gregory 1775 01:32:56.840 --> 01:32:58.560 Polanco autographed helmet. 1776 01:32:59.000 --> 01:33:03.399 Gregory read Elco el cofette, el cafe. 1777 01:33:03.960 --> 01:33:09.560 Yeah, first autographer helmet, never used. 1778 01:33:10.279 --> 01:33:12.119 But but yeah, I didn't you know what I didn't 1779 01:33:12.520 --> 01:33:14.560 factor in the buy now. I think Patrick's right to 1780 01:33:14.600 --> 01:33:20.359 go high for the buy now for the helmet. M 1781 01:33:21.119 --> 01:33:23.600 that it was weird. You know a lot of helmets. 1782 01:33:25.600 --> 01:33:27.560 I'm gonna tell you, I want to say sixty five, 1783 01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:29.720 but the buy now is pushing me to ninety. 1784 01:33:30.439 --> 01:33:35.239 I'm gonna say one. Hellots are rare, Like, how do 1785 01:33:35.359 --> 01:33:37.000 I think you can display like that? 1786 01:33:37.359 --> 01:33:39.479 Yeah, you can display dirt. 1787 01:33:40.840 --> 01:33:43.239 They display it for you. You don't have to display it. 1788 01:33:44.079 --> 01:33:46.720 You can display whatever the hell you want. Apparently you could. 1789 01:33:46.760 --> 01:33:50.159 You could print out a transcript of this podcast and 1790 01:33:50.239 --> 01:33:53.359 then frame it and display that I want for you. 1791 01:33:53.760 --> 01:33:56.720 I'm going to say one hundred and fifty buy now 1792 01:33:56.840 --> 01:34:00.439 price of a twenty twenty five pair of Bryce Eldridge 1793 01:34:00.479 --> 01:34:06.520 autographed batting gloves. Oh, Bryce Eldridge, I thought you said, 1794 01:34:06.560 --> 01:34:10.439 Bryce elder and what the two of them really should do? 1795 01:34:10.479 --> 01:34:12.960 Get Outldridge. There's some prospect she in there, and that 1796 01:34:13.119 --> 01:34:15.600 usually like is from his rookie year as he stole 1797 01:34:15.600 --> 01:34:17.479 a rookie technically that's my first season. 1798 01:34:18.119 --> 01:34:19.039 I'm going three fifty. 1799 01:34:19.520 --> 01:34:25.399 Oh, that's too much. That the batting gloves one seventy five. 1800 01:34:25.920 --> 01:34:30.520 Seventy years did you say? Twenty twenty five? Okay, okay, 1801 01:34:30.640 --> 01:34:36.119 so it's not mine released twenty three five autographed batting gloves. 1802 01:34:36.159 --> 01:34:40.520 What did Jeff say? He said, one seventy five. That's 1803 01:34:40.680 --> 01:34:41.840 so expensive. 1804 01:34:44.399 --> 01:34:46.960 The funny thing is that as the poorest member of 1805 01:34:47.039 --> 01:34:49.560 this group, all of the prices are too expensive. 1806 01:34:49.640 --> 01:34:51.399 So I'm just like, they're all, yeah, they're all no, 1807 01:34:51.479 --> 01:34:54.279 they're all insane. But I can't even I uh, one 1808 01:34:54.399 --> 01:34:54.920 twenty five. 1809 01:34:55.920 --> 01:34:58.039 It doesn't help that I'm reading Wadhouse right now, so 1810 01:34:58.079 --> 01:35:00.119 I'm just like, yeah, what would what would Bertie Booster. 1811 01:35:00.039 --> 01:35:02.920 Pay for this? All right? Last auction? 1812 01:35:03.119 --> 01:35:05.840 It is a buy now price and a Los Angeles 1813 01:35:06.079 --> 01:35:10.640 mystery Los Angeles Angels mystery game used or team issued 1814 01:35:11.119 --> 01:35:17.039 broken bat, so the sandular theory about broken bats applying here. 1815 01:35:18.840 --> 01:35:21.479 Hard to display, the mystery being we don't know who 1816 01:35:21.600 --> 01:35:22.439 You don't know who is it. 1817 01:35:22.840 --> 01:35:23.960 They know they won't tell you. 1818 01:35:24.720 --> 01:35:27.520 We don't know who signed it. Is sure that once 1819 01:35:27.600 --> 01:35:30.359 you open it up, it will tell you this player 1820 01:35:30.520 --> 01:35:36.039 broke this authenticated and fouling off this pitch, But you 1821 01:35:36.079 --> 01:35:36.640 don't get to know. 1822 01:35:37.239 --> 01:35:38.000 Is it? You know? 1823 01:35:38.319 --> 01:35:38.479 Who? 1824 01:35:38.520 --> 01:35:38.920 Could it be? 1825 01:35:39.760 --> 01:35:39.880 Right? 1826 01:35:40.520 --> 01:35:44.239 Was it Travis Darno? Was it Nolan Seanwell, yeah. 1827 01:35:45.039 --> 01:35:48.159 You're lucky like you. That's a seventy. 1828 01:35:49.439 --> 01:35:58.199 Outcome? Gustavo Campo? Was it Adam Braisier? 1829 01:35:58.520 --> 01:35:58.720 Yeah? 1830 01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:07.439 Uh? Was this bat mechaled by the Mechler? I have 1831 01:36:07.520 --> 01:36:09.760 no idea. Oh I thought it said the year. 1832 01:36:10.239 --> 01:36:11.199 Oh no, I did not. 1833 01:36:11.720 --> 01:36:13.880 This is so this is a buy now it could 1834 01:36:13.880 --> 01:36:15.319 be could be stay then? 1835 01:36:16.800 --> 01:36:16.960 Yeah? 1836 01:36:17.000 --> 01:36:20.039 I think the mystery I think tends to be under 1837 01:36:20.239 --> 01:36:24.119 yeah bucks yeah, mm hmmm. 1838 01:36:26.199 --> 01:36:28.640 Five and I'm gonna go seventy five. I think this 1839 01:36:28.840 --> 01:36:32.319 is the low one mystery. Bad mystery ones always go low. 1840 01:36:32.680 --> 01:36:34.960 Yeah, I agree. I thought one twenty five was fairly 1841 01:36:35.039 --> 01:36:36.399 low for it. Yeah all right. 1842 01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:40.119 Last two are specific websites. You're gonna love these. Uh, 1843 01:36:41.880 --> 01:36:47.279 the Lena Blackburn Original Baseball Rubbing Mud Professional size. You 1844 01:36:47.399 --> 01:36:50.920 get four pounds of rubbing mud. How much do you 1845 01:36:51.000 --> 01:36:55.000 think four pounds of rubbing mud cup? First of all, 1846 01:36:55.000 --> 01:36:58.960 you have to decide how much volume just four pounds rubber. 1847 01:36:59.520 --> 01:37:00.760 More than dirty? 1848 01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:03.600 How many baseballs could you rub with four pounds of 1849 01:37:03.640 --> 01:37:04.399 my rubbing mud? 1850 01:37:06.680 --> 01:37:09.680 Is I think this is an existential question. Is not 1851 01:37:09.880 --> 01:37:10.800 worth more than dirt? 1852 01:37:11.960 --> 01:37:15.680 I'm gonna like, can you just each other very easily? 1853 01:37:15.800 --> 01:37:16.000 Can you? 1854 01:37:16.319 --> 01:37:17.560 Can you play the jar? 1855 01:37:17.760 --> 01:37:19.359 You're just in a jar so you can put it 1856 01:37:19.399 --> 01:37:19.760 on a shell. 1857 01:37:19.920 --> 01:37:22.800 I assume that this is not for four pounds in 1858 01:37:22.920 --> 01:37:25.199 a jar, Jeff, I think this has got to be 1859 01:37:25.239 --> 01:37:25.680 in a tub. 1860 01:37:28.199 --> 01:37:30.920 I mean, fairly, it's been how much water content is 1861 01:37:30.960 --> 01:37:33.399 in the mud really, like if it's real wet mundy. 1862 01:37:33.399 --> 01:37:35.560 These are the real questions. At what point does dirt 1863 01:37:35.600 --> 01:37:36.880 become mud? That's it? 1864 01:37:37.039 --> 01:37:39.239 I mean a gallon of milk is like four pounds, 1865 01:37:39.279 --> 01:37:41.199 isn't it sixty four pounces? 1866 01:37:41.600 --> 01:37:42.720 I do, I do not. 1867 01:37:42.800 --> 01:37:43.119 I don't know. 1868 01:37:43.439 --> 01:37:44.920 Do you get milk in a jar? Do you get 1869 01:37:44.960 --> 01:37:45.760 a gallon of milk? 1870 01:37:45.800 --> 01:37:47.520 And you're just saying that it could be about the 1871 01:37:47.600 --> 01:37:48.840 same patrick gallon. 1872 01:37:50.359 --> 01:37:51.520 Somebody has to carry that milk. 1873 01:37:54.760 --> 01:37:56.960 I'm so glad it can circle back to that anyway. 1874 01:37:59.279 --> 01:38:02.479 Yeah, I was thinking, actually the exact same price on it. 1875 01:38:02.760 --> 01:38:04.560 You can say the same price. You're allowed. 1876 01:38:06.479 --> 01:38:10.039 Four pounds of you can say fifty one if you want. 1877 01:38:10.079 --> 01:38:12.199 I think it's we're doing very round numbers here. 1878 01:38:13.159 --> 01:38:18.199 I think I'm gonna say seventy five dollars. Okay, somehow 1879 01:38:18.239 --> 01:38:18.800 I heard them. 1880 01:38:19.199 --> 01:38:20.720 I'm high in the dirt. 1881 01:38:20.760 --> 01:38:23.000 Here we go. All right, this is the final exam 1882 01:38:23.640 --> 01:38:28.079 of our dirt focus quiz. Yeah great, this is dirt 1883 01:38:28.239 --> 01:38:30.880 edge coffee right classic infield mix. 1884 01:38:31.479 --> 01:38:35.600 It's a super sack. It is two thousand pounds of dirt. 1885 01:38:36.359 --> 01:38:38.840 What how much do you want to pay for two? 1886 01:38:39.560 --> 01:38:42.640 You can't display that much dirt, I'm so I just 1887 01:38:42.720 --> 01:38:45.640 gotta say, like, how, like, how super is this sack 1888 01:38:45.720 --> 01:38:47.039 that it gets a ton of dirt? 1889 01:38:47.840 --> 01:38:50.239 Maybe it's a jar? What if it was a super 1890 01:38:50.359 --> 01:38:51.000 jar of dirt? 1891 01:38:51.800 --> 01:38:53.079 Split it up in a couple sacks? 1892 01:38:53.279 --> 01:38:54.039 How would you even? 1893 01:38:54.960 --> 01:38:55.720 What is the point? 1894 01:38:56.800 --> 01:38:58.239 Yeah? I know a forekleft? 1895 01:38:59.560 --> 01:39:00.159 Like what is that? 1896 01:39:00.199 --> 01:39:02.880 How do you open that? What do you mean you 1897 01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:05.720 cut it open? A top of dirt just pourts out. 1898 01:39:06.960 --> 01:39:09.399 I feel like people die on the beach when that happens, 1899 01:39:09.520 --> 01:39:10.840 right if you try to. 1900 01:39:10.920 --> 01:39:19.239 Do All I know is that my son would love 1901 01:39:19.359 --> 01:39:22.359 to have a two thousand dirt This is not game US, 1902 01:39:23.159 --> 01:39:25.239 it's before. 1903 01:39:25.039 --> 01:39:28.560 You use the game. I assume the pregame dirt. 1904 01:39:30.800 --> 01:39:33.920 Is the purest dirt you can get untouched. I'm sullied. 1905 01:39:35.159 --> 01:39:39.079 But how how is this produced? If they produced this 1906 01:39:39.239 --> 01:39:43.199 or they just they get up from somewhere? Where does 1907 01:39:43.239 --> 01:39:50.199 this is a good question? Where column idea? Where does 1908 01:39:50.239 --> 01:39:51.359 the nfield dirt come from? 1909 01:39:51.760 --> 01:39:56.319 Okay, enough, put just a sprinkle of the rubbing mud 1910 01:39:56.399 --> 01:39:58.520 in it, flavor? 1911 01:39:58.640 --> 01:40:01.439 Hold on what it is? The difference between to eat 1912 01:40:01.479 --> 01:40:05.079 up dirt and producing dirt? Isn't that how? 1913 01:40:06.560 --> 01:40:11.000 I assume some sifting is involved. We have to be refined. 1914 01:40:11.760 --> 01:40:13.560 You can just still dig it up. I mean, like 1915 01:40:16.520 --> 01:40:18.199 you gotta make sure it's gonna be the right dirt. 1916 01:40:18.199 --> 01:40:19.159 You can't just get clay. 1917 01:40:19.880 --> 01:40:22.000 You can't just like go in the bag. You think 1918 01:40:22.039 --> 01:40:25.760 your dirt is good enough to be infield dirt, don't. 1919 01:40:27.640 --> 01:40:29.319 What are they putting nutrients into it? 1920 01:40:29.840 --> 01:40:33.319 Well, they're selecting a certain quality of the color. 1921 01:40:34.279 --> 01:40:38.960 And where does that come from the same place where 1922 01:40:38.960 --> 01:40:41.239 the river is, where the mud comes from. That makes 1923 01:40:41.279 --> 01:40:46.840 the mud so specially getting Lena Blackburn dirt. They're trying 1924 01:40:46.880 --> 01:40:47.520 to make their own. 1925 01:40:47.560 --> 01:40:49.399 I'm sure they're I'm sure they like we have the 1926 01:40:49.439 --> 01:40:52.199 best dirt like this is we It's like it's like 1927 01:40:52.279 --> 01:40:55.800 when like the old commercial like that, we've we've locally sourced. 1928 01:40:55.520 --> 01:40:58.039 These beans of dirt. 1929 01:40:58.199 --> 01:41:02.039 Last you did get multiple dirt orders during according to 1930 01:41:02.680 --> 01:41:03.760 when I have to pay shipping? 1931 01:41:04.640 --> 01:41:06.800 Important question? Do I have to pay shipping? 1932 01:41:07.600 --> 01:41:10.319 Was not in the price? Like this price? 1933 01:41:12.760 --> 01:41:14.159 We should probably put a number on this. 1934 01:41:14.600 --> 01:41:18.000 I don't even know, no idea, no idea, where to begin. 1935 01:41:19.920 --> 01:41:21.920 Is dirt a dollar a pound? I don't think it is. 1936 01:41:24.239 --> 01:41:28.119 I'm going to say, God, I'll go first. I'll fall 1937 01:41:28.239 --> 01:41:30.039 on the sword here and go first. I think I 1938 01:41:30.319 --> 01:41:33.039 have a ton of dirt. It's going to set you back, 1939 01:41:34.159 --> 01:41:36.479 like this is good dirt. Though it's good dirt, is 1940 01:41:36.560 --> 01:41:41.319 in a dirt dirt or so you are paying for 1941 01:41:41.439 --> 01:41:44.000 it to be good dirt. I'm going to say that 1942 01:41:44.119 --> 01:41:44.720 this costs. 1943 01:41:47.439 --> 01:41:48.720 Got any number? I say? 1944 01:41:50.319 --> 01:41:51.159 Nothing feels right? 1945 01:41:51.279 --> 01:41:54.760 Yeah, I'm going to say for a ton of dirt, 1946 01:41:58.600 --> 01:42:01.199 fills dollars for a ton of. 1947 01:42:01.199 --> 01:42:03.560 Dirt I was thinking. I was thinking fifteen hundreds. I'm 1948 01:42:03.560 --> 01:42:07.199 just gonna stick with that. It's expensive dirt. Like I think, Look, 1949 01:42:07.640 --> 01:42:10.640 they're only buying there's only one place that makes this dirt. 1950 01:42:10.720 --> 01:42:13.359 There no competition for the dirt. I feel like they 1951 01:42:13.399 --> 01:42:15.279 can charge whatever they want. They need the dirt for 1952 01:42:15.359 --> 01:42:15.760 the field. 1953 01:42:16.520 --> 01:42:21.279 Look, it's dirt edge, like you're saying. If I say 1954 01:42:21.319 --> 01:42:25.319 a thousand, you're saying, that's that's fifty. I couldn't go. 1955 01:42:25.520 --> 01:42:29.039 I went over a pound of dirt. It's good dirt 1956 01:42:29.800 --> 01:42:34.039 that on it feels low fifty fifty cents. 1957 01:42:34.159 --> 01:42:36.960 Aren't just said what fifteen? 1958 01:42:37.159 --> 01:42:42.000 You can go? Get it now? All right? What you're saying, 1959 01:42:42.039 --> 01:42:42.439 I can't go? 1960 01:42:42.800 --> 01:42:43.079 I don't know. 1961 01:42:43.159 --> 01:42:48.159 You're saying my dirt is garbage? Yeah? Maybe nine. I'm 1962 01:42:48.159 --> 01:42:51.640 in your head. You're completely in my I think it's 1963 01:42:51.720 --> 01:42:53.479 very boy sides and you're coming out in the top. 1964 01:42:53.960 --> 01:42:55.760 I think it's very funny that I went over on 1965 01:42:56.159 --> 01:42:57.439 on like eleven of the twelve. 1966 01:42:57.600 --> 01:42:58.800 I might lose just because. 1967 01:42:59.039 --> 01:42:59.920 Who knows that the dirt? 1968 01:43:00.119 --> 01:43:02.199 Yeah, all right, so I'm gonna reveal the answers and 1969 01:43:02.279 --> 01:43:03.960 we're gonna find out what happened. 1970 01:43:03.960 --> 01:43:06.560 That is one hell of a sack. They didn't all right, 1971 01:43:07.199 --> 01:43:10.199 Uh okay, so. 1972 01:43:13.079 --> 01:43:17.159 Apparently the price of he doesn't does he have the 1973 01:43:17.239 --> 01:43:19.880 actual I guess there's a link, but I'm just gonna 1974 01:43:19.920 --> 01:43:23.880 go off of calculating. Uh So the game used dirt 1975 01:43:23.960 --> 01:43:26.159 Jar Bundle from the Dodgers. It was one hundred and 1976 01:43:26.199 --> 01:43:29.880 seventy five dollars Craig. Craig is the closest, but one hundred. 1977 01:43:30.239 --> 01:43:31.960 I was one hundred and twenty five. Jeff was six 1978 01:43:32.039 --> 01:43:32.760 hundred and seventy five. 1979 01:43:32.840 --> 01:43:34.279 I'm in trouble the dirt? 1980 01:43:38.479 --> 01:43:44.079 How much was it? The actual price it was was, yeah, 1981 01:43:44.079 --> 01:43:46.880 one hundred and seventy five. And what I was the closest. 1982 01:43:46.960 --> 01:43:48.800 You were the closest because you said seventy five and 1983 01:43:48.840 --> 01:43:52.119 I said three hundred, oh, three hundred, okay, yeah, all right. 1984 01:43:52.199 --> 01:43:59.319 The next one is the Andre Dawson autographed bat, and 1985 01:44:00.079 --> 01:44:01.920 it seems like I have to do the math here. 1986 01:44:02.079 --> 01:44:04.479 The price of that was two hundred and thirty dollars, 1987 01:44:06.560 --> 01:44:08.800 so Jeff was the closest on that one hundred and twenty. 1988 01:44:09.600 --> 01:44:11.680 Craig's one hundred ninety five off. I was three hundred 1989 01:44:11.680 --> 01:44:12.279 and seventy off. 1990 01:44:13.680 --> 01:44:15.239 All right. Next one is the. 1991 01:44:16.960 --> 01:44:21.439 One Soto danger dirt displaying. This one was a one 1992 01:44:21.560 --> 01:44:24.720 hundred and thirty, so I was closest with seven. I 1993 01:44:24.880 --> 01:44:27.399 was said two hundred, so I was seventy off. Craig 1994 01:44:27.520 --> 01:44:28.600 was eighty off, Jeff was. 1995 01:44:28.600 --> 01:44:29.479 On and twenty off. 1996 01:44:31.840 --> 01:44:35.560 The Washington Nationals game used lineup card is one hundred 1997 01:44:35.640 --> 01:44:39.600 and seventy five dollars Jesus Christ. So I was closest. 1998 01:44:39.640 --> 01:44:45.600 I have five off too much, that's gonna And Craig 1999 01:44:45.680 --> 01:44:46.800 was one hundred and forty five off. 2000 01:44:46.880 --> 01:44:49.319 Don't worry, we shall have the dirt to go. 2001 01:44:49.520 --> 01:44:54.359 Craig Joe Adela's autographed bat was one hundred and ninety 2002 01:44:54.439 --> 01:44:56.840 so Craig Jeff was only ten off. Yeah, that's the 2003 01:44:56.920 --> 01:45:00.039 closest guest of anyone. Craig was thirty five off. I 2004 01:45:00.159 --> 01:45:04.800 was sixty off. Next, the Julio Rodriguez signed Funko Pop 2005 01:45:05.199 --> 01:45:10.159 was two hundred and seventy eighty dollars, so I was 2006 01:45:10.239 --> 01:45:10.800 high man on that. 2007 01:45:10.920 --> 01:45:11.600 I was closest. 2008 01:45:12.680 --> 01:45:12.800 Uh. 2009 01:45:13.000 --> 01:45:17.399 The placard, the autograph placard for Mike Castrimski with one 2010 01:45:17.479 --> 01:45:19.520 hundred and fifty dollars, So it was close. 2011 01:45:19.479 --> 01:45:20.960 On that one. Yeah. 2012 01:45:21.279 --> 01:45:22.840 Yeah, not even those placards. 2013 01:45:24.399 --> 01:45:28.119 It was with one hundred and fifty dollars signa Yeah. 2014 01:45:28.600 --> 01:45:32.239 The autographed helmet by Greg's Gregor at Planko was three 2015 01:45:32.399 --> 01:45:33.159 hundred dollars. 2016 01:45:33.439 --> 01:45:33.720 Wow. 2017 01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:39.560 Yeah, So again I was closest on that one. The 2018 01:45:39.920 --> 01:45:46.760 Bryce Eldridge batting gloves were five hundred dollars. 2019 01:45:47.600 --> 01:45:52.600 No, five hundred dollars, So again I was closest by 2020 01:45:53.039 --> 01:45:55.720 being the most expector. I finally my strategy finally caught up, 2021 01:45:56.119 --> 01:45:59.720 finally caught up, although not you know, I went low 2022 01:45:59.800 --> 01:46:01.960 on the mystery game used bat and that was a 2023 01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:05.119 mistake because it was three hundred dollars. So the mystery 2024 01:46:05.279 --> 01:46:06.159 used broken back. 2025 01:46:06.239 --> 01:46:08.319 It's the angels, it's the angels. 2026 01:46:08.399 --> 01:46:10.960 You think you're getting Mike Trout, You're not getting Mike Trout. 2027 01:46:11.079 --> 01:46:11.239 Yeah. 2028 01:46:11.399 --> 01:46:17.319 Yeah, the baseball rubbing mud. We were all pretty close. 2029 01:46:17.439 --> 01:46:20.920 It was one hundred bucks for a four pound bucks, 2030 01:46:21.960 --> 01:46:25.800 so Craig was closest and uh for twenty five and 2031 01:46:25.920 --> 01:46:30.479 Jeff and I were with fifty off and finally, yeah, 2032 01:46:30.640 --> 01:46:38.079 the infield mix. The infield mix h is four hundred 2033 01:46:38.119 --> 01:46:42.239 and seventy eight dollars. So I was off by twenty two, 2034 01:46:42.520 --> 01:46:45.479 good Craig and Craig was off by twenty two. 2035 01:46:45.560 --> 01:46:48.840 And why don't we all have our own baseball field? 2036 01:46:49.039 --> 01:46:51.800 I guess, Yeah, that's what I'm wondering, because I'm guessing 2037 01:46:51.880 --> 01:46:54.279 the shipping costs did not get to pack it anyway. 2038 01:46:54.800 --> 01:46:56.680 So our final score is Jeff was a total of 2039 01:46:56.760 --> 01:46:59.840 three seven dollars off Craig was a total of two 2040 01:47:00.359 --> 01:47:02.560 and twelve dollars off and I was one thousand. 2041 01:47:02.279 --> 01:47:03.359 Four and fifty two dollars. 2042 01:47:03.600 --> 01:47:04.600 It really cost me there. 2043 01:47:04.640 --> 01:47:05.479 The dirt, the dirt. 2044 01:47:06.239 --> 01:47:07.560 The dirt was the decide are Yeah? 2045 01:47:07.760 --> 01:47:09.359 Was I was in last place? I miss no, you 2046 01:47:09.399 --> 01:47:12.720 were sucking? Wasn't last? Yeah? Oh because of the dirt 2047 01:47:12.760 --> 01:47:13.520 went on the dirt? 2048 01:47:13.600 --> 01:47:14.840 Yeah, I went too high. 2049 01:47:14.680 --> 01:47:19.319 On the dirt. Yeah. Wow, honestly something about dirt. Yeah, 2050 01:47:19.479 --> 01:47:20.720 phenomenal game age. 2051 01:47:20.760 --> 01:47:22.439 I'm now going to go google what is dirt? 2052 01:47:24.960 --> 01:47:27.039 How can I produce it? What is dirt? 2053 01:47:27.119 --> 01:47:30.319 May of any unclean substance on a surface or loose 2054 01:47:30.399 --> 01:47:31.039 to earthy matter. 2055 01:47:32.079 --> 01:47:34.520 I'm going to go buy that game. Use Broken Bat 2056 01:47:34.600 --> 01:47:36.479 to prove a very important point to everyone that you 2057 01:47:36.520 --> 01:47:39.119 shouldn't spend three hundred dollars on a game used angels, 2058 01:47:39.199 --> 01:47:40.680 random angels when. 2059 01:47:40.560 --> 01:47:42.640 You could you could buy two bats and then they 2060 01:47:42.720 --> 01:47:44.159 have more than an entire ton. 2061 01:47:44.319 --> 01:47:46.479 I can just get a Joe Adell autographed bat for 2062 01:47:46.560 --> 01:47:49.760 one hundred dollars less than that. Who also plays with 2063 01:47:50.119 --> 01:47:51.479 unbroken Unbroken? 2064 01:47:51.560 --> 01:47:55.680 Yeah, it has to be above median in terms of 2065 01:47:55.800 --> 01:48:00.560 like guys you want oh yeah, well about for trout 2066 01:48:01.640 --> 01:48:05.239 Dak metto yeah, yeah, and then. 2067 01:48:05.159 --> 01:48:08.520 It's Anthony random would be very funny. 2068 01:48:08.600 --> 01:48:10.640 It would be very funny because you don't know what 2069 01:48:10.760 --> 01:48:11.880 circumstances he broke it. 2070 01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:22.720 Yeah, not game us thought, all right, well, thank you agent, 2071 01:48:22.800 --> 01:48:27.560 I mean phenomenal choice. By the way, just finding the 2072 01:48:27.640 --> 01:48:32.600 super sack of dirt, I mean, holy shit, really well done. 2073 01:48:32.840 --> 01:48:35.039 Thank you to Aja, Thank you to you both for 2074 01:48:35.119 --> 01:48:37.199 coasting this episode, and thank you to our listeners for 2075 01:48:37.319 --> 01:48:40.199 joining us on another episode of five and Dive brought 2076 01:48:40.199 --> 01:48:42.319 to you by the Baseball Perspectives podcast Network. You can 2077 01:48:42.399 --> 01:48:45.439 get in touch with the show at five and Dive 2078 01:48:45.520 --> 01:48:47.920 at Baseball Perspectives dot com. We are wherever you get 2079 01:48:47.960 --> 01:48:51.279 your podcasts. Search for Baseball Perspectives podcast network and we'll 2080 01:48:51.279 --> 01:48:54.279 be in that feed. If you enjoy what we're doing, 2081 01:48:54.359 --> 01:48:56.960 drop us a rating or review. You don't have to 2082 01:48:57.039 --> 01:48:58.439 do a review. 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