Speaker 1: It's night with Dan Ray. I'm telling you easy Boston's
Speaker 1: news Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, I want to talk about the big news
Speaker 2: story out of Washington today, and this the ten o'clock
Speaker 2: hour and even perhaps to midnight, talk about what's going on.
Speaker 2: We're going to go through a very historic transition of
Speaker 2: power from the Biden administration to the second Trump administration
Speaker 2: has never been well, it's been done once before, in
Speaker 2: the ninth late in the nineteenth century. We've talked about that,
Speaker 2: and so from a historical point of view, I mentioned
Speaker 2: my civics teacher, mister Daugherty of Boston Latin School back
Speaker 2: in the Dark Ages. He would he would really be
Speaker 2: thrilled to talk about this, and I'm thrilled to talk
Speaker 2: about it. And I know that there's a lot of passions,
Speaker 2: and passion is fine. We can have passionate conversation, either
Speaker 2: in favor or against the nominations that the President elect
Speaker 2: will put forward. But the nomination of Matt Gates was
Speaker 2: stunning when it was made. It was I guess I
Speaker 2: will call it an unforced error, an unforced political error.
Speaker 2: And Gates at least was smart enough, or maybe he
Speaker 2: was told to be too smart enough. And the president
Speaker 2: was smart enough to accept his withdrawal, Gates wrote today.
Speaker 2: Apparently the decision was made this morning, and Gates wrote
Speaker 2: today on social media, while the momentum was strong, yesterday
Speaker 2: he spent time visiting Republican senators, which is the first
Speaker 2: sign I think that he had big problems. He was
Speaker 2: accompanied by the Vice President elect Jdvans, of course, a
Speaker 2: senator up until you know the the end of this
Speaker 2: this term. He's a senator from from Ohio. But it
Speaker 2: almost looked to me like a duty that if I
Speaker 2: were JD. Vance, I would have said, Gee, isn't there
Speaker 2: someone else that could walk him around. I don't know
Speaker 2: what the truth is about these allegations against Gates, but
Speaker 2: they're pretty substantial. There have been people who have come
Speaker 2: out of the woodwork and look, it's a moot point now,
Speaker 2: because this is what Gates wrote today, Well, the momentum
Speaker 2: was strong. It is clear that my confirmation was unfairly
Speaker 2: becoming a distraction to the critical work of the Trump
Speaker 2: fans transition. He wrote on social media. There is no
Speaker 2: time to waste on a needlessly protracted Washington scuffle. Thus
Speaker 2: I'll be withdrawing my name from consideration of service. Attorney
Speaker 2: General Trump's DOJ must be in place and ready on
Speaker 2: day one. Well, we're still pretty far from day one.
Speaker 2: I mean, when you think about it, there are two
Speaker 2: full months to go before we get the January twentieth. Now,
Speaker 2: I will admit that, uh, eight years ago, Donald, when
Speaker 2: Donald Trump was putting his first administration together, he certainly
Speaker 2: wasn't this quick with his nominations. And many of his nominations,
Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerned, have been fine. Some of
Speaker 2: them are going to be a little controversial. The Robert F.
Speaker 2: Kennedy nomination to be a little bit will be controversial.
Speaker 2: But I think Kennedy gets through. Heag Chess, the defense
Speaker 2: guy Fox Weekend host, that could get through, or that
Speaker 2: could be the next one in trouble. I think Telsea
Speaker 2: Gabbart is going to get through. I hear all of
Speaker 2: these these allegations in these rumors, but former Democratic Congressman
Speaker 2: from Hawaii, so Gas is off the board. I thought
Speaker 2: initially that Gates might have been a sacrificial lamb, and
Speaker 2: that he was put out there to be the lightning rod,
Speaker 2: if you will, that all of the Democrats attention was
Speaker 2: focused on. Well, I think frankly, if he had stayed,
Speaker 2: that might have supported my belief. But he didn't stay,
Speaker 2: and he's out of there. And as a matter of fact, tonight,
Speaker 2: there is already a replacement nominee, Pam Bondy, who is
Speaker 2: a young similar in age to Gates, a young former
Speaker 2: attorney general in the state of Florida. So I don't
Speaker 2: think she has the baggage, if had whatsoever, that Matt
Speaker 2: Gates was carrying. But she is probably as ideological, politically
Speaker 2: and illegally as Gates is. If I had been an
Speaker 2: advisor to Donald Trump here, and I am not advisor
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, I would have said, what about someone like
Speaker 2: Trey GOUDI he seems to be enamored by Fox News personalities.
Speaker 2: I think Goudy would be an outstanding attorney general if
Speaker 2: you wanted it, or better. Yet, even John you, former
Speaker 2: assistant Attorney general who was an assistant a g during
Speaker 2: George Bush's term in office. You wrote the so called
Speaker 2: torture memos, you know, dealing with Guantanamo, So he would
Speaker 2: have been criticized. But he is a first rate intellect
Speaker 2: professor at UC Berkeley, brilliant, brilliant guy. So I just
Speaker 2: want to throw it out there, and let's start off
Speaker 2: with the conversation about Matt Gates. Are you surprised? I
Speaker 2: don't think anyone is going to tell me this stunned
Speaker 2: that Gates has withdrawn. But I'd love to hear what
Speaker 2: you think of some of the other nominees, whether you
Speaker 2: like them, are you concerned about them, or if you're
Speaker 2: opposed to them. These are the people that will surround
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Normally, they're not. Normally a president picks a cabinet,
Speaker 2: which most people can't name three or four people in
Speaker 2: the cabinet. Over time, you get to know some of them,
Speaker 2: but initially you don't who are these people. Donald Trump
Speaker 2: has tended to name fairly highly recognizable people. I don't
Speaker 2: think that's an advantage necessarily, but that's his decision, and
Speaker 2: he clearly had in mind the people he wanted to
Speaker 2: surround himself with. So he is ready, and I suspect
Speaker 2: it's going to be an administration that will be ready
Speaker 2: to move in whatever direction he wants quickly on January twentieth.
Speaker 2: A lot of people are going to be pleased by it,
Speaker 2: and a lot of people are going to be probably
Speaker 2: appalled by it. And I don't care whether you're going
Speaker 2: to be pleased or palled. I'd love to know what
Speaker 2: you think about the cabinet nominees and is there does
Speaker 2: is does the Gates withdrawal? Does that end it? And
Speaker 2: do the others all get through? Or are there other
Speaker 2: members of the cabinet the nominees that you think won't
Speaker 2: get through? And I still want someone to explain to
Speaker 2: me what the thought process was behind nominating Matt Gates
Speaker 2: as Attorney General. If he was going to be a
Speaker 2: sacrificial lamb, he should not have withdrawn today. He should
Speaker 2: have been there for like a month so that they
Speaker 2: could really been on the sacrificial altar for a long
Speaker 2: time to take the focus off others, so that theory
Speaker 2: for me goes away. Six one seven two thirty six
Speaker 2: one seven nine thirty The Trump administration that we will
Speaker 2: live with for most of the next or the next
Speaker 2: four years. Cabinets do change, but the Trump administration is
Speaker 2: beginning to take shape. We have new departments, the Department
Speaker 2: of Government Deficiency, which is going to be a department
Speaker 2: that I think is going to end up with a
Speaker 2: lot of legal challenges to it, but it's going to
Speaker 2: be interesting and You are more than welcome to call
Speaker 2: and comment on any or all of it. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back on Nightside. Let's talk a little politics.
Speaker 2: Politics for the forty seventh president of the United States.
Speaker 2: I was convinced it was going to be a close election,
Speaker 2: and we're going to be arguing over whether or not
Speaker 2: who won. Did Harris win? Did Trump win? That whole
Speaker 2: series of conversations is off the table. Now. The question
Speaker 2: is how will Donald Trump govern? And will he be
Speaker 2: more effective? And more? Do I say to I dare
Speaker 2: say rational? Has he learned from his first term in office?
Speaker 2: I guess that's the That is the That's the kindest
Speaker 2: way I can phrase the question. You have the answers,
Speaker 2: give me a call, coming back on nights Side.
Speaker 1: Now, back to Dan Way live from the Window World
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Speaker 2: It's amazing when you realize that the election was just
Speaker 2: about two weeks ago, two weeks and two days, I guess, uh,
Speaker 2: And that already President elect Trump has nominated so many individuals.
Speaker 2: There are a bunch of positions that have not been
Speaker 2: nominated yet. Labor, Secretary, treasurer, Treasury, agriculture, Housing, those are
Speaker 2: all big, big departments. But he I think when you
Speaker 2: go through his group, uh, there's there's there's a lot
Speaker 2: of women, not a lot. Some some predominantly you know politicians, Uh,
Speaker 2: A few exceptions. There not a lot of minority representation,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, and I think that is
Speaker 2: a weakness at this point that he needs to address
Speaker 2: because you want your cabinet and the people who surround
Speaker 2: you uh to look and reflect the people who supported
Speaker 2: you in the campaign. Uh. And so I'd just love
Speaker 2: to know. Look, look for some suggestions and some some nominations,
Speaker 2: and let's let's have a little bit of fun with it.
Speaker 2: Gonna started off with Mike and Beverly. Mike, what were
Speaker 2: you surprised by Gates withdrawing? I assume you weren't agree
Speaker 2: an exam how I good, sir? What's on your mind
Speaker 2: now much?
Speaker 3: I I I approve it. That's because the mysteriously that
Speaker 3: that that investigation, thanks somehow is our person got hacked
Speaker 3: the night before and leaked out. So that's how he
Speaker 3: with his thing today.
Speaker 2: Well, either way, either way, Mike, the problem was that
Speaker 2: this guy a whole bunch of allegations swirling around him.
Speaker 2: I realized that people in a court of law enjoy
Speaker 2: the presumption of innocence. However, however, the politics is not
Speaker 2: a court of law, and as a consequence, I I
Speaker 2: thought his selection was was a mistake from the beginning.
Speaker 2: I think of it as sort of the equivalent in
Speaker 2: tennis of an unforced error. I mean, did he not
Speaker 2: realize that this this was going to be a flashpoint? MATI?
Speaker 3: How how how many? I only heard Matt gage on
Speaker 3: one allegation? What the the drug one? And the and
Speaker 3: the and the and the woman situation? You're right, that's
Speaker 3: all I heard about?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think but they were well they were They
Speaker 2: was talking about drug usage.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: And there was also talking about under girls. Apparently there
Speaker 2: were two seventeen year old girls who had must have
Speaker 2: had some proof. I don't think these were people who
Speaker 2: were making up stories out of thin air. That they
Speaker 2: that they must have had some interaction with him, And
Speaker 2: I believe that there was some some evidence, some documents.
Speaker 2: I haven't read the the House report, but I don't
Speaker 2: think that report was going to clear him, is what
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say. And I just think that. I know,
Speaker 2: when you talk about cabinet officials, why would you nominate
Speaker 2: someone with a record like that. There are plenty of
Speaker 2: conservatives that he's nominated. I mean, his vice president is
Speaker 2: a conservative. He's got you know, he's got a borders
Speaker 2: ar who was really conservative, Tom Homan, his national security advisor,
Speaker 2: who's a currently congressman. You know, on and on and on.
Speaker 2: He's got a lot of conservatives. But Gates, who was
Speaker 2: a conservative. He was the guy that threw the monkey
Speaker 2: wrench into the Republican cong.
Speaker 3: The street.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, company, Yeah, so he was.
Speaker 2: He was kind of a bomb toss from from day one.
Speaker 2: I don't really know that you want you know what
Speaker 2: I would call a bomb tosser, you know, a metaphorical
Speaker 2: bomb tosser.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, But I just say that his
Speaker 3: new pactor, Pam bonnie FFEI as a really good pack.
Speaker 3: She's no joke. She is no joke. I know that.
Speaker 2: Okay, she'ld be a good pick. I would have suggested
Speaker 2: John you, I don't know if you know who you is,
Speaker 2: but not but not Y.
Speaker 3: But he he was a was his first administration. He
Speaker 3: was Pam was in Trump's the first administration.
Speaker 2: Right. But but I think that he could have been
Speaker 2: chosen as a you know, at a higher office metter
Speaker 2: of fact. I'm not sure that you was in his
Speaker 2: first administration.
Speaker 3: I don't believe Pam he was, Pam wash.
Speaker 2: You no, no, no, right. So she would have been
Speaker 2: at AL that would have been before she was Attorney General.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know enough about all of these
Speaker 2: characters as to uh, she probably would have been at
Speaker 2: a lower level. I mean, an administration has hundreds thousands
Speaker 2: of people, if you will, working in and around the
Speaker 2: White House and the EO B.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I don't remember her Zach position. I
Speaker 3: remember that, you know. But just a suggestion, Dan, but
Speaker 3: not for tonight. But going forward, though, why can't we
Speaker 3: talk about mar Healey and Michelle Woo not giving up
Speaker 3: the illegals that are committing crimes in mass juseus and
Speaker 3: why we can't send them back and why are we
Speaker 3: still paying them and why she's just gas sighting the
Speaker 3: Master's people about that situation. That's my problem with it.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll get to all those issues. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: there's only one issue or two issues we can a night.
Speaker 2: We've we've talked about it.
Speaker 3: Yea, I know that.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Yeah, thank you for the suggestion. Thank you
Speaker 2: for the suggestion. We're open to all suggestions. Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: looking at them. I'm looking at Pam Bondi's bio. She
Speaker 2: was the Florida Attorney General from twenty eleven to twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: I don't think she served within the Trump administration. She
Speaker 2: certainly knows Donald Trump, there's no question about that. And
Speaker 2: so she's now she is now the nominee. But I
Speaker 2: don't think she served in the in the first Trump administration.
Speaker 3: To be to be fun, you was something in that
Speaker 3: I can't remember. I heard about it earlier, but I
Speaker 3: can't remember right this minute, I can't remember. With the
Speaker 3: second I'm Jonathan Blank Sorr. I apologize, but yeah, that's all.
Speaker 3: But I think you watched some of good facts, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you know he's definitely going out
Speaker 3: very bold, wants this guy going right away. He very crowntive.
Speaker 3: He's not playing around this time. You know, he has
Speaker 3: a misspeare he did it the last term. This time
Speaker 3: he knows some more and about the whole What do
Speaker 3: you call it having more bilingual people? I guess you
Speaker 3: call it you know, he got the the ladies share.
Speaker 3: Is his house is secondary state or something like that.
Speaker 3: Now I can't think of her name. He was she
Speaker 3: was just played his Trump as campaign manager anyway. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I think he's got a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Again, Let's let's just leave it there. Uh.
Speaker 2: I think that he could do He should bring more
Speaker 2: people into his administration who represent different constituencies. That's That's
Speaker 2: all I'm suggesting is, hey, look what he has nominated
Speaker 2: so far. I think that there is there, there are
Speaker 2: options that he should exercise. Hey, Mike, hate to do
Speaker 2: this to you, but I'm flat out of time, right, No,
Speaker 2: I have a great night, good night, six point seven,
Speaker 2: ten thirty. You know, here's the thing, folks, I'm kind
Speaker 2: of a gatekeeper here, and when people throw information out
Speaker 2: on my show, I feel like I'm a goaltender and
Speaker 2: I'm trying to stop pucks. Sometimes there's no indication that
Speaker 2: I could just find that that Pam Bondi worked in
Speaker 2: the Trump administration. She served as the Attorney General in
Speaker 2: Florida from twenty eleven to twenty nineteen. What she did
Speaker 2: after she left the Attorney General's office, whether or not
Speaker 2: she served at a lower level position. Just don't throw
Speaker 2: stuff at me like you know it for sure, because
Speaker 2: it puts me in a position where I try to
Speaker 2: strive for some accuracy and you know, been people call
Speaker 2: up and just give me stuff that I'm not sure
Speaker 2: of my initial instant. I think I'm pretty good. Every
Speaker 2: once in a while I'm wrong and I'll find out,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Ganz, she did indeed, sir. But you know,
Speaker 2: give me a break here. I'm a one man person here.
Speaker 2: I don't have a producer sitting around the table with me,
Speaker 2: and it's distracting, and it also takes the conversation off
Speaker 2: in directions that I don't want to go. Okay, simple
Speaker 2: as that I want to make a recommendation as to
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Speaker 2: free to join this conversation. Talking about Donald Trump's cabinet
Speaker 2: nominations so far, the Matsgates nomination was ill advised, ill considered,
Speaker 2: and a disaster. Uh And I think that. This is
Speaker 2: the first time that I can remember seeing Donald Trump
Speaker 2: quickly tried to correct a mistake. I'm sure that Matt
Speaker 2: Gates would have piled ahead with this, and that probably
Speaker 2: President Trump, through intermediaries said to him, she you know
Speaker 2: it's not going to work. Don't hold yourself out to
Speaker 2: this situation and be embarrassed. So jump on board. Back
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Speaker 1: Right after this, you're on Night Side with Dan Ray
Speaker 1: on w Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: By the way, a couple of callers called in, which
Speaker 2: was which is great. I appreciate that. You're more than
Speaker 2: welcome to come on the air. By the way, Pim
Speaker 2: Bondi was briefly part of President Trump's impeachment team in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. She had finished her term as an attorney
Speaker 2: general in the state of Florida. She was not part
Speaker 2: of his administration, folks, she was part of his impeachment team.
Speaker 2: And that was the point that I was trying to
Speaker 2: correct Mike from Beverly on. She then went on to
Speaker 2: head up the Center for Litigation at the American America
Speaker 2: First Policy So she is a Trump loyalist. As much
Speaker 2: of a loyalist as as Matt Gates and probably a
Speaker 2: better lawyer as a former attorney general, but she was
Speaker 2: not part of his administration, but she is now his
Speaker 2: second nominee for attorney general in his second administration. Let's
Speaker 2: go to Bill in Pennsylvania. Bill, welcome back. How are you, sir? Good?
Speaker 5: How you doing Dan good?
Speaker 2: I just think that Matt Gates thing was perfectly obvious,
Speaker 2: and whoever was advising President LEC. Trump on that did
Speaker 2: him no favors.
Speaker 5: No, you're right, you're right about that. And but it
Speaker 5: looks like this this BONDI lady will do good. Hey,
Speaker 5: I got a scoop for you from down here in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: All right, go ahead.
Speaker 5: It's just a matter of time before the Trump emissaries
Speaker 5: go out to western Pennsylvania and sit down with John
Speaker 5: Fetterman and his team and convince John to switch from
Speaker 5: Democrat to Republican.
Speaker 2: I think you're dreaming on that one. But well, if
Speaker 2: that happens, Bill, I fully expect you to call me
Speaker 2: and and take a huge victory lap. I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't think so. I think I think Fetterman is at
Speaker 2: his heart a genuine liberal, not quite a progressive, but
Speaker 2: I think he's a. He's a he's a diet in
Speaker 2: the world Democrat, and I think you got to respect
Speaker 2: him for that, and he won election. I think the
Speaker 2: better thing to watch is this, And what I'd like
Speaker 2: you to keep an eye on for me is this
Speaker 2: so called recount or recount in the the Casey re
Speaker 2: election campaign where Dave McCormick apparently has I don't know,
Speaker 2: was it a thirty thousand vote lead and there are.
Speaker 5: No case He conceded Dan, he conceded this evening.
Speaker 2: Oh well, that's great, Okay, that's just to put some
Speaker 2: of these things behind us is great. You know, his
Speaker 2: dad had been a Democratic senator before him, so he
Speaker 2: was sort of a sort of a family tradition to
Speaker 2: represent Pennsylvania in the US Senate. That's good to know.
Speaker 2: I had not seen that as yet. So that's a
Speaker 2: real piece of information that is helpful. So that settles
Speaker 2: the Senate, if I'm not mistaken. Fifty three Republicans and
Speaker 2: forty seven Democrats.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And the way that went down was kind of
Speaker 5: weird because Olber and Bucks County, Dan the commissioner over there,
Speaker 5: it was I.
Speaker 2: Saw that army, I saw the comments she made, which
Speaker 2: were bizarre She eventually apologized for them, but she basically said, hey,
Speaker 2: look all is fair in love, war and politics, and
Speaker 2: if I got to I got a cheat. I've got
Speaker 2: to cheat.
Speaker 5: After the State Supreme Court, okay ruled in Trump's favor
Speaker 5: about these you know, the signing and the ballots and
Speaker 5: the date and yeah, basically, well we're not going to
Speaker 5: do it like that in Bucks County.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just unbelievable. Uh, I just don't understand
Speaker 2: how she she was an elected official, right, yeah.
Speaker 5: I think she was a commissioner. Commissioner.
Speaker 2: Believe that I'm not appointed. I hope that she either resigned.
Speaker 2: She's she's disgraceful. I mean, she's doing the same thing
Speaker 2: that Donald Trump was accused of not accepting the results.
Speaker 2: Trump was saying, look, votes have been suppressed or whatever,
Speaker 2: and it was he was proven wrong in all those
Speaker 2: court cases. This woman even wasn't getting that point. She
Speaker 2: was saying, I'm going to do whatever I have to
Speaker 2: do to make sure that the Democrat wins here in
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania by hook or by crook, with an emphasis on crook.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do a lot in the news, and uh
Speaker 5: now they're now they're all focused on Pete hagg sets Okay, yes,
Speaker 5: and I don't ask you. Here comes the me too movement.
Speaker 5: The me too movement is back.
Speaker 2: Dan, Well, they tend to be somewhat selective and where
Speaker 2: their concerns are. And uh oh, I I remember the
Speaker 2: Clinton years in the White House. I don't know the
Speaker 2: me too movement could could take. I think they made
Speaker 2: their point and I think most people realize that I
Speaker 2: don't know the circumstances in this headset thing. I've read it,
Speaker 2: and I've read that there was some sort of dalliance
Speaker 2: and that there was a payment made, and I don't know,
Speaker 2: it sounds it didn't sound to me like I guess
Speaker 2: the police out there did not bring charges. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, these are.
Speaker 5: Right all my all my Democrat friends. Okay, whenever they
Speaker 5: whenever they mentioned something like that, I go, I go, yeah,
Speaker 5: they're saying, well, he paid he paid them off, he
Speaker 5: paid the lady off to uh, you know, non disclosure
Speaker 5: and that. And then I remember Paula Jones. You ever
Speaker 5: hear of Paula Jones eight hundred thousand bucks.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I think that I think that Bill Clinton
Speaker 2: was ahead of his time where the me Too movement
Speaker 2: was a little late. I think he could have used
Speaker 2: the me Too movement and a number of circumstances.
Speaker 5: Uh, if they're really gonna I think maybe John Tenderman.
Speaker 5: But I guarantee you within the next six months, then
Speaker 5: there's gonna be there's gonna be some Democrats that joined
Speaker 5: the Republican Party.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you know I had on tonight earlier,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if I would hope you remember
Speaker 2: Patrick Murphy, a former Democratic congress fro from Massachusetts. He's
Speaker 2: very concerned about veteran suicide. Had him on in the
Speaker 2: first hour, uh, one of our one of our four
Speaker 2: four guests during the first hour. I've seen him on
Speaker 2: TV before. I liked Murphy when he was in Congress,
Speaker 2: and I like him even more now he's out of Congress.
Speaker 2: But he's doing a lot to help veterans, you know,
Speaker 2: deal with issues which caused some of them to you know,
Speaker 2: he said something like one hundred and twenty thousand veterans
Speaker 2: you know that it's like twenty two a day who
Speaker 2: have committed suicide. That is an insane number that we
Speaker 2: can't take. What's that?
Speaker 5: Because I can I ask you a question? Yeah, go ahead, Hey, Now,
Speaker 5: I don't know if you had them on or not.
Speaker 5: Seth Molten, Okay, I keep saying I had Seth Moulton.
Speaker 2: On last week. I had Seth Molten on last week.
Speaker 5: Yes, okay. My question was this Now. I heard him
Speaker 5: say that he has two young, young daughters and he
Speaker 5: didn't want his young daughters playing sports against any men.
Speaker 2: Well, he said he didn't want to see them run
Speaker 2: over by some male who was, you know, participating in
Speaker 2: female sports. If you want to listen to what he
Speaker 2: had to say, I had him on a week ago
Speaker 2: tonight during the nine o'clock hour. So if you go
Speaker 2: to Nightside on demand you can listen. Just go to
Speaker 2: the nine o'clock hour from Thursday, November fourteenth. But yeah,
Speaker 2: he's I like Seth Moulton. Seth Seth did several tours
Speaker 2: in the Middle East. The Harvard guy was in ROTC
Speaker 2: at Harvard and served honorably in the Middle East and
Speaker 2: was a top advisor to General then General David Petraeus.
Speaker 2: A smart guy, really smart guy, and a very decent guy.
Speaker 2: And he took a lot of heat from the progressive
Speaker 2: wing of the Democratic Party for that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he waited to go after the election to say that, right,
Speaker 5: he didn't say that before the election.
Speaker 2: We didn't say it before the election. But what he
Speaker 2: said was that it's issues like this which are costing
Speaker 2: his the Democratic Party, the support of you know, the
Speaker 2: middle class voters. I you know, again, if the Democrats
Speaker 2: had won the election, he probably wouldn't have said it,
Speaker 2: but he did say it, and he caught quite a
Speaker 2: bit of grief. Bill, I gotta let you run here
Speaker 2: because time is time slipping on me here.
Speaker 6: Thanks for calling in your crew up there.
Speaker 2: All right, thanks much, and keep keep calling. And also,
Speaker 2: if you want to go back and listen, it's there,
Speaker 2: just go to Night's You going to the computer.
Speaker 5: Well, I got to go up to my daughter's house.
Speaker 5: She does all that stuff up there.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying, you know, she can play Nightside
Speaker 2: on demand for you. You just roll it back and
Speaker 2: you go to last Thursday, November fourteenth, nine o'clock and
Speaker 2: you can listen to what he had to say. We
Speaker 2: had him on for half an hour. For the first
Speaker 2: thirty minutes of that hour.
Speaker 5: Okay, hey, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Bill, appreciate your call.
Speaker 3: All r.
Speaker 2: I got to take a quick break here six two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty, six one seven, nine, three thirty. I'm looking
Speaker 2: to hear from you as to what you think about
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's cabinet pick so far. Some of them are controversial,
Speaker 2: but I think the only one that was doomed is
Speaker 2: the fellow who resigned today, Congressman, former Congressman Matt Gates.
Speaker 2: He may, by the way, be able to return to Congress, ironically,
Speaker 2: or maybe he said that it was his intention to
Speaker 2: leave Congress. But now the question is going to be
Speaker 2: what he had won his re election in November. So
Speaker 2: that's another issue now that comes up. So we'll always
Speaker 2: have issues to talk about, and I always want callers
Speaker 2: to express their opinion, whether they agree or disagree. Coming
Speaker 2: right back on Nightside, you have the number six one
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Speaker 2: Back on Nightside Now back to Dan ray Line from
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Speaker 1: Night Side Studios on w b Z News Radio.
Speaker 2: Back to the phones. Back to the phones we go, Brovo.
Speaker 2: Hope we got pronouncing that correctly. Brovo and Newton Brovo,
Speaker 2: welcome next on Nightside.
Speaker 6: Hi, Dan Brovo here longtime listener, second time.
Speaker 2: Caller, second time caller. Okay, Brovo, no applause, but appreciate you,
Speaker 2: appreciate your return appearance.
Speaker 6: What you're taking all this, it's it's been a while.
Speaker 6: It was when Hillary and Obama were fighting it out
Speaker 6: for the Democratic nomination.
Speaker 2: And well, if I'm correct on if I'm correct on that, Brovio,
Speaker 2: it would have been two thousand and eight, and this
Speaker 2: is right, it's two thousand So that's a mere sixteen years. Brovo.
Speaker 2: If you don't make the next call for sixteen years,
Speaker 2: I may not be here. Just be aware of that.
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, you know, like I said, longtime listener. So
Speaker 6: I've been listening, I've been thank you, thank you taking
Speaker 6: it all in. I think you've got a pretty good
Speaker 6: perspective and that you know, uh talking about out just
Speaker 6: you know, delivering the facts and backing it up because
Speaker 6: I feel like, I mean, you you were around before
Speaker 6: the digital age and it was different, and you know,
Speaker 6: people kept their politics to themselves and their religion and
Speaker 6: we respected each other. But now, just like I hear
Speaker 6: a lot of callers in there, they sound like they
Speaker 6: still want to pick a fight, like they want to
Speaker 6: bring up all the soundbites that they've heard on TV
Speaker 6: and find fault and what's wrong with the system, rather
Speaker 6: than what's right with the system and how it can
Speaker 6: be better. Now, I think I'm just going to spiel
Speaker 6: for a minute. If that's okay.
Speaker 2: You learned it being staying away for sixteen years. You've
Speaker 2: earned it.
Speaker 6: I've built it's all built up. But I'm not angry.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm actually at a great place. And I
Speaker 6: feel like, you know, everybody who's talking about revenge and retribution,
Speaker 6: let's just call it. You know, you won the election
Speaker 6: fair and square. That's the retribution. That's the revenge. Okay,
Speaker 6: No one's going to be storming the capitals, and you know,
Speaker 6: let's now we need to make it work because we're
Speaker 6: in a Really this is the stuff I feared growing up,
Speaker 6: the Russians, the next door World War three. You know,
Speaker 6: I dodged the draft by two years. I was too
Speaker 6: young for the Vietnam War, and but that was part
Speaker 6: of my thinking growing up, like what am I going
Speaker 6: to do?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna By the way, Brovio, just factually, you didn't
Speaker 2: dodge the draft if you were not eligible, you simply
Speaker 2: weren't drafted. You didn't dodge the draft. The people who
Speaker 2: went to Canada and refused to serve, they dodge the draft.
Speaker 2: Don't put yourself in that category.
Speaker 6: If oh, I I no, thank you. I say it
Speaker 6: facetiously because it's like it felt like a bullet grazed
Speaker 6: my head, you know, and I feel like, you know,
Speaker 6: and seriously, I mean, this is nineteen sixty eight meets
Speaker 6: twenty twenty five again. You know, there's so many similarities
Speaker 6: with you know, presidents stepping down and vice president's running
Speaker 6: and Bobby Kennedy is back, and you know, but that
Speaker 6: was the time well you.
Speaker 2: Know, attempt either assassinations or attempted assassinations.
Speaker 6: That's right. And yet this time he dodged a bullet.
Speaker 6: He you know, he got hit. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 6: think about what would have happened if he got hit,
Speaker 6: and this country would be in chaos. So in a way,
Speaker 6: and I look at Trump now, and he's smiling. He
Speaker 6: seems like a happy guy. You know, he's not like
Speaker 6: he's angry. And I think with the picks, especially Matt Gates,
Speaker 6: it's like the loyalists, who you know, will do anything,
Speaker 6: sell their souls whatever. Sure, Matt you're the guy, here's
Speaker 6: the job for you. Quit Congress. Matt's stepping down. Well, hey, Matt, sorry,
Speaker 6: I couldn't help you, and you helped me. But you know,
Speaker 6: I'm done now.
Speaker 3: He's moving on.
Speaker 6: I think he wants to weed out, like you said,
Speaker 6: drain the swamp, get rid of the radicals, and you know,
Speaker 6: come to a meeting place where people can get along.
Speaker 6: Because Trump could really be the uniter of both parties,
Speaker 6: you know, because he's well ironically, you.
Speaker 2: Know, his appeal to voting blocks that primarily were overwhelmingly
Speaker 2: democratic are still democratic. But he's made tremendous inroads, whether
Speaker 2: you like him or not, with Hispanic voters, Black voters,
Speaker 2: and I still want to look at I haven't done
Speaker 2: a real rundown. I believe that he came either pretty
Speaker 2: close to fifty to fifty or might have even won
Speaker 2: the female vote after all the stuff that we had heard.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's an amazing, you know return. And I
Speaker 2: hope that for the sake of all of us, he
Speaker 2: doesn't do something crazy. I hope that that it's a
Speaker 2: little bit more orderly this this time around.
Speaker 6: I hope so too. And that's why maybe he's just
Speaker 6: trying to like weed out the.
Speaker 2: I still couldn't figure out whether this was going to
Speaker 2: be the sacrificial lamp that would lamb, that would draw
Speaker 2: all the fire and the other folks would be able
Speaker 2: to get I don't know, Brabo, I need to get
Speaker 2: one more in here before the break. But do me
Speaker 2: a favor. You know, you make so much sense, and
Speaker 2: it took you sixteen years to come back. I need
Speaker 2: callers like you, Okay, I really mean them, Okay. In
Speaker 2: order to make this show work, I need people who
Speaker 2: are rational. The only thing worse than a than a
Speaker 2: sore loser is a bad winner. And your admonition to
Speaker 2: the Trump people to you know, take take the victory
Speaker 2: with grace and let's see if the president elect Trump
Speaker 2: can do something to make things better in the country
Speaker 2: for people. That's what we should be focused on.
Speaker 6: In my that's great, Dan, I love that.
Speaker 4: I'd love that.
Speaker 6: All right. I'll definitely talk.
Speaker 2: Soon, talk soon, and don't wait sixteen years, Brabo eggs.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, I'm back in Boston, so I'm not
Speaker 6: in the time difference.
Speaker 2: Thanks, Bell, appreciate it so much. Have a great one.
Speaker 2: Good night, all right, good night, let me go, Bill Danvers.
Speaker 2: I'm going to get you in here under the wire
Speaker 2: before the day.
Speaker 4: And I like all the pecks, and actually I Pam
Speaker 4: BONDI was the one I was thinking about before he
Speaker 4: picked Gates, to be honest with you, because she's been
Speaker 4: in the Frenches and and you know she's she doesn't
Speaker 4: have as much flair as Gates, and she has an irritating.
Speaker 2: Dates has no flair. Gates has baggage, I know, but
Speaker 2: he yeah, well he says fire is you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, look what he did the speaker there, you know.
Speaker 4: But anyhow, and as far as the women vote, I
Speaker 4: want to say I'm ninety percent sure he lost women
Speaker 4: overall by seven points, which he lost to Hillary by fifteen.
Speaker 4: But he carried college educated women, but women, and he
Speaker 4: carried UH and she won African American women. So all
Speaker 4: together it was it was seven that he lost by,
Speaker 4: but he gained and was ahead with women with non
Speaker 4: college education. So that's what closed the gap. So that's why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'm going to get some of that during
Speaker 2: the break here. To be honest with you, Yeah, that
Speaker 2: I would. I would tell you. I would tell you
Speaker 2: that a lot of the National posters, the posters We
Speaker 2: used Dave Paleologus and John Zogby uh and Spencer, Kimball
Speaker 2: and Emerson. They were spot on. They were spot on.
Speaker 2: When that's that dumb pole out of Iowa come out
Speaker 2: and said that that Harris was leading forty seven to
Speaker 2: forty three. That would have been a poll if it
Speaker 2: came out in Massachusetts said that Trump was leading forty
Speaker 2: seven to forty three. It would have been just as ludicrous.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I think I'm almost suspicious to think that that
Speaker 4: was almost a suppression poll, you know what I mean
Speaker 4: type of thing.
Speaker 2: Of course it was. There's no question. And by the way,
Speaker 2: that pollster has now resigned from the newspaper.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there's no way. And and what did he
Speaker 4: when Iowa I was by fourteen points?
Speaker 2: I think right, No, he woned about ten ers. Well,
Speaker 2: the last I saw it was fifty five to forty five,
Speaker 2: which was to Kimball. So the posters that I bring
Speaker 2: to you, guys, are good posters, not people who are
Speaker 2: hacked posters, and they're trying to impact the election like this.
Speaker 2: I think her last name, I forget what her last
Speaker 2: name is. I don't even want to remember her last name.
Speaker 2: But that was a hack poll that obviously was badly flawed,
Speaker 2: and there was should have been a huge mayor copa.
Speaker 4: They're still still still count a few votes out on
Speaker 4: the West Coast. I look today, he's almost at seventy
Speaker 4: seven million, which, when you think about it, Dan, is
Speaker 4: a phenomenal situation. He improved by about two million votes
Speaker 4: from last time.
Speaker 2: Yet, yeah, yes, he did two million votes. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of votes. And Barack Obama in his second office
Speaker 2: now second term, which were consecutive, he went from sixty
Speaker 2: nine to sixty five million votes. So that's that's interesting
Speaker 2: as well. Bill, like I got a run, I'll get
Speaker 2: some breakdown numbers for you the other side. Thanks Man,
Speaker 2: talk to you soon, Sam and London there you stay
Speaker 2: right there. I'd like to talk about this till midnight.
Speaker 2: You decide, we're going to talk about If you don't
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