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<v Speaker 1>Yo, what is a boys? How's it going? And welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to another episode of the One Piece Virgin podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We are so back boys. Today we're covering Fishbed Island,

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<v Speaker 1>the Sawgus, and we will be touching upon the return

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<v Speaker 1>to Sabad after the time skip with us. Today we

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<v Speaker 1>have the One Piece Virgin herself, Poseidon Mythos. How's it going?

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<v Speaker 2>Gamer?

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<v Speaker 3>We are so back. It's been a very long time.

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<v Speaker 3>The holidays I think kept all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we're so busy, there's so much going on, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's the point though. That's part of the One Piece

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<v Speaker 2>immersion experience. Once they have a time skip, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to have a time skip, right.

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<v Speaker 1>True, it's true. Also One Piece is a Brazilian episode.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like life happens, you know, like it takes it

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<v Speaker 1>takes years. It takes years. Sometimes they catch up just

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<v Speaker 1>a finish season one.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, They didn't acually say that season one is over.

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<v Speaker 1>Season one is over and you've already watched two years

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<v Speaker 1>worth of content anyway with it. Today we also have

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan the anime Dude, how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>My friend? What's up? Everybody? Happy to be here? I'm

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<v Speaker 2>excited for this one. It's been too long?

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, poseidon general thoughts on the saga, on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Saga, or you want me to go specific.

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<v Speaker 1>Arcs Okay, return to Saba Odie first, general thoughts, w

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<v Speaker 1>or L.

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<v Speaker 3>I absolutely loved it. Am I able to lump in

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<v Speaker 3>fan Letter in here because I did watch Fants?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god? Yes, I would more than allow that

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like that's the time it happens. And

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<v Speaker 1>I love the return to or the fan letter.

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<v Speaker 3>So my initial watch of Return to Sabod I thought

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<v Speaker 3>it was fun. It was cool to see each of

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<v Speaker 3>the straw hats kind of come in with their new

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<v Speaker 3>I guess improved what powers and redesigns. But I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think I actually truly loved Return to Saba until I

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<v Speaker 3>finished watching fan Letter.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it made me a pre it like was

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<v Speaker 1>the Cherry on Top a lot more put it all together. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to rewatch fan Letter. I like refresh my

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<v Speaker 1>memory for Sabodi and fish By Island for this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but I need to rewatch fan Letter. I remember when

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it, I was obsessed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jordan, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Were so good.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, you remember that, that's my mind. I

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<v Speaker 2>have not yet watched it you know what, I've not

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<v Speaker 2>sat there and watched it.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty minutes?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know I've seen sections, but I haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to sit down and just watch it all.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I agree with Raf and chat fan Letter

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<v Speaker 1>is easily better than the rest of Return to Sabodi.

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<v Speaker 3>I I honestly agree for the return to though, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>because like there was a there was a two week break.

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<v Speaker 2>They also did the immersion right, Like they took two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks off of one piece, and then they came back

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody was returning Borrow show up first. That threw

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<v Speaker 2>everything on its head, right, was it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like all the chaos going on on saba ODI's from

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<v Speaker 1>a marine's perspective? I actually don't even remember it. I

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<v Speaker 1>just remember being in love.

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<v Speaker 3>So fan letter it showed kind of like the events

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<v Speaker 3>leading up and during. So there was like a section where, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think it was a flashback. It showed

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<v Speaker 3>I guess a marine soldier what he was doing during

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<v Speaker 3>Marine forward. So you can see like Cuson's sorry, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not his that's his real name? What's his? Not a

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<v Speaker 3>kind new is it? It's a who's on ice?

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<v Speaker 1>Dude?

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<v Speaker 3>Like it shows there we go. It showed him kind

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<v Speaker 3>of in the Battle of Marine Ford, and then from

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<v Speaker 3>the perspective of the other navy that was there, the

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<v Speaker 3>other Marines, And I thought that was really cool. And

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<v Speaker 3>then it showed I guess the perspective of like an admiral,

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<v Speaker 3>not an ad Sorry, I feel like that's too like

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<v Speaker 3>a like an like a captain as well as like

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<v Speaker 3>a fan of Namies. So you kind of get to

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<v Speaker 3>see the events that were unfolding during return to Sabad

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<v Speaker 3>from a different perspective, not from the straw Hats necessarily,

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<v Speaker 3>but just regular people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's one thing being like a member of the

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<v Speaker 1>straw Hat and having chaos going around you imagine being

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<v Speaker 1>a normal marine.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which it's It shows how like the straw Hats,

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<v Speaker 3>what they kind of mean to each like of those people.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought it was so funny that the big

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<v Speaker 3>tough captain dude, he was just a huge Chopper fan,

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely loved Popper. And then the marine guy his his

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it, Please regrect me if I'm wrong. He

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<v Speaker 3>appreciates Loofy because Loofy in invertedly saved his brother's life

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<v Speaker 3>because his brother was also in the Marines. During the

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<v Speaker 3>Marine four fight and uh, Loufy doesn't know it, but

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<v Speaker 3>he saved this man's life. So he feels like he

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<v Speaker 3>owes something.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like me and Jordan are the virgins here

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm hearing this for the first time from an expert.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie you. Notice. I've ran and watched

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<v Speaker 1>One Piece so many times. I only watched this one

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<v Speaker 1>episode when I came out. I need to rewatch it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've only seen that one scene with the brother, so

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's about it. I need to go back and

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<v Speaker 2>watch the whole thing. So you're not wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's dive back into the Return to sava od An.

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<v Speaker 1>He highlights moments you found funny or great, and he

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<v Speaker 1>nippicks anything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, the fake straw hats were something else. They were

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<v Speaker 3>something else, and it made me like, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>understand there was Like I was like, Chopper, how do

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<v Speaker 3>you not know? Not the real ones? Oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 3>who the heck is this?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it shuts them there was Oh my god. One

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<v Speaker 3>of my favorite parts of Return to is when Lufy

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<v Speaker 3>is like backpacking all his stuff. Right, he has a

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<v Speaker 3>hood over his head and he's walking down the square

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<v Speaker 3>and he uses his hockey, I believe on the fake

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<v Speaker 3>straw hats because they're like trying to rile him up

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<v Speaker 3>and try to get in a fight with him, and

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<v Speaker 3>he just uses his Conquerors hockey.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he wanted to remain low key. Look at this

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time, lufy trying to be low key

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<v Speaker 1>and not get caught and like dodges some attacks and

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<v Speaker 1>then uses hockey is conquers hockey to make them pass

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<v Speaker 1>out and kind of get away without being spotted. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's one of alarm people that he's back alive on

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<v Speaker 1>the island. So on and so forth. I had some

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<v Speaker 1>great moments that were more comedic, like just between Zoro

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<v Speaker 1>and Soanjy Zorro constantly referring to Sanjy orfer like Zoro

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<v Speaker 1>was like number one and Sonji was like number like

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<v Speaker 1>seven to show up. I'm making up the numbers. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember the actual numbers, but he was referring to

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<v Speaker 1>him as by a number that he showed up. I

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<v Speaker 1>found fucking hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Zoro always gets lost, right, him showing up first

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<v Speaker 2>and then just riding that wave that high for the

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<v Speaker 2>entire arc is uh yeah, is great. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>throwback to uh to Meehawk right first time we saw

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<v Speaker 2>me her Hawk versus first time we see Zoro post

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<v Speaker 2>time skip, they kind of do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So and then the Aul accidentally went to Fishman couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>go to Fishman Island early he got on the wrong ship.

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<v Speaker 3>He was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the old man said like, oh, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go fishing, go on my boat. And like he

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<v Speaker 1>gets on a gigantic pirate ship and takes a nap

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<v Speaker 1>and then they have it all coated and they're going

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<v Speaker 1>underwater and then he cuts the ship in half with

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<v Speaker 1>a bad ass moment. That was a really really cool

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<v Speaker 1>moment that I liked. Any other moment you guys liked

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just saying, that guy's just like Don Creek, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like had their grand line journey cut short just because

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<v Speaker 2>they happened the cross paths with the wrong swordsman on

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong day, right, their ship half too real.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved when Nammy when you see me, she's like

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<v Speaker 3>kind of in a bar and like, if I'm remembering correctly,

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<v Speaker 3>someone was flirting with her and she didn't like it,

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<v Speaker 3>so she used her new weather weather, which I thought

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<v Speaker 3>was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we get to see a lot of new things, right.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to see different different outfits but also different

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<v Speaker 1>powers and them and actually flex a little bit with

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<v Speaker 1>their new powers. We got to see Oosop in that

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<v Speaker 1>bar as well use some type of I believe it

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<v Speaker 1>was in that bar that he used by based like

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<v Speaker 1>attack with his slingshot. But we saw Nami use like

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<v Speaker 1>a like a lightning based attack which was really cool

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<v Speaker 1>and like way more powerful than in the past. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the pop greens green.

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<v Speaker 2>Pops he used.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I have a bad memory. I need to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to rewalking everything before having a conversation with Poseidon.

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<v Speaker 1>This is bad al Kigi who.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, there was. There was. Like I said, there

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot in like a very short spurt on

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<v Speaker 2>on Sabad right because we're seeing everybody again, so everybody

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<v Speaker 2>got a little bit of screen time there. M so

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<v Speaker 2>king Brook having a concert, just announcing it. He was

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<v Speaker 2>turned in because he they wanted him to be there, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>their money maker. He was retiring, right, so he's he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, No, I'm off to be a pirate.

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<v Speaker 2>Lukey's gonna be king And then he dips out like

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<v Speaker 2>a true rock star. So he was a.

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<v Speaker 3>Superstar celebrity status.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm gonna be honest. I want to hear your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on the new forms. I like the new version

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<v Speaker 1>of Rob Robin a lot. I want to hear what

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<v Speaker 1>you think about the new version of Robin compared to

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<v Speaker 1>like her pre time scap because both are great.

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<v Speaker 3>They're great, I think design wise, I really really like

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<v Speaker 3>her Fisherman Island outfit the most. However, I do miss

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<v Speaker 3>her bangs.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like the bangs and and his lobby outfit

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<v Speaker 1>was his peak.

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<v Speaker 3>Though it is the problem, it is, it is, it's

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<v Speaker 3>so so good. I really loved her thriller Bark outfit.

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<v Speaker 3>But it is nice and refreshing to see all of

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<v Speaker 3>them have new designs, Like I really like Gnamy with

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<v Speaker 3>long hair. I think that's cool. I think my face

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<v Speaker 3>redesign or I guess new design out of everybody is

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<v Speaker 3>actually oosop. I think looks awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice to see him a little bit more muscular

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<v Speaker 1>and Jack, yes, don't worry, he looks. Don't worry, Poseidon

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<v Speaker 1>the Bangs will be back in six hundred episodes, and

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<v Speaker 1>like not even exaggerating, like, in six hundred episodes, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see bangs again and spoilers. I just it'll keep you watching.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it's our l BAF design if I'm remembering correctly.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn, how do you know these things?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen Twitter.

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<v Speaker 3>Twitter likes to like to tease me a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>To click it. You know that's too true.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this is a hot take guys,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't like Frankie's new design.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's customizable. He's able to change his hair at will.

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<v Speaker 2>They were like, yeah, everybody, everybody had their own training

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<v Speaker 2>arcs over the two years, right, and then like that's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing he shows off. He's like press the button,

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<v Speaker 2>you were doing for these two years. Right. Like there's

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<v Speaker 2>other stuff too. He's like, we'll talk about that later,

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<v Speaker 1>Just feel like I do like the fact that it's

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<v Speaker 1>hair hairstyle, so like, not only does he have a

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<v Speaker 2>I actually do kind of agree with that. I love

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<v Speaker 2>Pree time Skip Frankie. If I had the compare how

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<v Speaker 2>they look? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So such a bro I don't know, And now he's

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he's still really cool, but like that, the

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<v Speaker 2>hair can be very silly at times, right, So what's

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<v Speaker 2>how they do it?

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<v Speaker 1>What about Zoro? Anything you notice about Zoro's.

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<v Speaker 3>I is stitched up and explained?

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<v Speaker 3>He's a lot more but a lot more muscular.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, his boobs got bigger?

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<v Speaker 3>He did it?

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<v Speaker 1>Did they keep on growing? I think his boobs are

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<v Speaker 1>canonically bigger than Robin's, which I am I joking? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that not real or that?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it wouldn't surprise me those pecks. He works

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<v Speaker 2>out a lot, right, that's true. He's also wearing like

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<v Speaker 2>a kimono type thing now to show off all the

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<v Speaker 2>scars that we've seen get over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I might be reposting misinformation, but I'm pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Oda's really revealed all like they're like like bust

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<v Speaker 1>sizes and Zorrel's was the biggest on the straw Hack crew,

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<v Speaker 1>which I feel like just can't be real because every

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<v Speaker 1>every frame, Robin and Nomalies just get bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>I've gotta say, Oda loves the hourglass figure, So like

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<v Speaker 2>there's gotten bigger over the course of the series. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that old info? Is this?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like theirs gets bigger in proportion to their body,

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<v Speaker 1>but like all of Zorol's like shoulders and like waists

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<v Speaker 1>and everything got bigger, So maybe it doesn't look as

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<v Speaker 2>Like I could see that maybe being the case at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, but I'm telling you, just as it goes on,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the constant and one pieces that the

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<v Speaker 2>boobs get bigger over time. Right, it's a I don't

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<v Speaker 2>it's science. I don't make the rules so that it's life.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway. Any other things about Saba Odi before we jump

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<v Speaker 1>into the Meat and Potatoes nuts flatback loved.

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<v Speaker 3>Towards the end of the arc, you kind of see

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<v Speaker 3>the characters that were with the straw Hats during the

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<v Speaker 3>two years kind of send them off almost right, you

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<v Speaker 3>see Boa kind of being like bye, lufy, like protecting him.

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<v Speaker 3>Pirona's there, and I just think it's it's a very

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<v Speaker 3>sweet moment, all of them kind of saying goodbye and

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<v Speaker 3>sending them back off to Fishman Island. And I don't

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<v Speaker 3>really sweet moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember it from the anime, but whenever I

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<v Speaker 2>was rereading of this, like, uh, we saw like Heracles

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<v Speaker 2>and uh the guy that trained us up and the

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<v Speaker 2>Ocamas and uh, the people in the sky Island, they

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<v Speaker 2>all kind of held off the rains a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>as they as they left, right, So a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a send off there, and then uh, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>things they talked about from the island they did like

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<v Speaker 2>on the way down, Like there was some info dumps there.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we want to talk about those maybe next.

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<v Speaker 1>Or yeah, there's some cool stuff that happened on the

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<v Speaker 1>way down, some info dumps.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Yeah, I mean, good work.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, Jinks both can't talk, Okay, any

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<v Speaker 1>any thoughts about Kuma, I guess I could.

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<v Speaker 2>I should say that was like one of the biggest.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it did get revealed during this time, right,

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<v Speaker 3>that Kuma was not a bad guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He was not.

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<v Speaker 3>He he did what he did at sad to save

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<v Speaker 3>them because if he did not do that, Kisaru would

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<v Speaker 3>have killed all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Yeah, he basically saved the crew. And then

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<v Speaker 2>there after that he was able to give himself kind

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<v Speaker 2>of one command to like unconsciously do and he guarded

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<v Speaker 2>the ship until at least one person showed up, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So he uh yeah, that was why the ship was

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<v Speaker 2>still safe after all these years.

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<v Speaker 1>I think in return to so obviously we have that,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really important. Trying to think of any other

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<v Speaker 1>reportant things. The flashback with Raley and Roger is that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Also as that's like as they leave.

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<v Speaker 1>As they leave, do you remember that anything that caught

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<v Speaker 1>your attention there?

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<v Speaker 3>I honestly can't remember that. So if you guys kind

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<v Speaker 3>of want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Go over and help, so we just like Loufy says

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<v Speaker 1>to Raley, I'm going to be King of the Pirates,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I get flashes back to like Goldie Rogers

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<v Speaker 1>saying that to Railey, and yeah, Roger is wearing something

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<v Speaker 1>something that Loofy wears. Roger's wearing the same looking straw

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<v Speaker 1>hat or the same straw hat like.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that, right, it's like a crown of some sorts.

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<v Speaker 1>It's correct me if I'm wrong, is that the first

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<v Speaker 1>time we see Roger in a straw hat.

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<v Speaker 3>I honestly cannot recall him wearing like a straw hat

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<v Speaker 3>before this, so it probably is.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently he has it like in an opening, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is the first time in the show. Yeah, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we see it, and I feel like that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>big because we know Shanks gave it to Loofy and

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<v Speaker 1>now we know that somehow Roger had it before.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, either that or it was just a huge fashion

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<v Speaker 2>trend back then, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And that back in the day, Back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>straw hats were in. But Shanks also did say, just

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<v Speaker 1>so you know this beside him, Shanks did say that

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<v Speaker 1>before he wore it somewhat important wore that straw hat.

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<v Speaker 1>That was Goldie Roger, damn. So I still think that

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<v Speaker 1>straw hat is the one.

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<v Speaker 2>Piece they throw so much at you so quick time

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<v Speaker 2>over right, So it's like this is all even before

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<v Speaker 2>they get the Fishman Island.

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<v Speaker 1>It has also been two months since we've done this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're helping each other and refreshing each other's each

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<v Speaker 1>other's right here.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's probably been about that long since you watched it,

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<v Speaker 2>right Besidon, So it's uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's been a hot it's un a hot minute.

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<v Speaker 3>Just to be completely transparent with you, guys, I am

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<v Speaker 3>currently in the middle of Punk Hazard.

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<v Speaker 2>So oh damn yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I uh, I'll get to it once we talk more

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<v Speaker 3>about Fishman Island. I suppose I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think we do the rest of Fishman Island, or as

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<v Speaker 1>much as Fishman Island you want to cover today, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll do a whole episode on Punk Hazard when

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<v Speaker 1>we get there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I actually think we can probably cover all of

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<v Speaker 3>Fishman Island today because I really think that the amount

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<v Speaker 3>of content that was in Fishman Island did not need

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<v Speaker 3>to take as long as it needed to.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you have that opinion because I like Fishman Island,

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<v Speaker 1>but fun act this so remember I've been complaining about pacing. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a point where it gets worse and continues

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<v Speaker 1>to get worse because there was fifty six chapters in

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<v Speaker 1>the Fishman or the Fishman Island saga. There's fifty seven episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning about one chapter an episode, which is not typical crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>not typical.

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<v Speaker 2>Friend, not at all. So yeah, it's it's like it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's a pretty quick arc when you read it. But

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<v Speaker 2>I do remember watching it and just thinking, like the

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<v Speaker 2>time the flashbacks in particular, right, I'm like, man, these

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<v Speaker 2>are kind of taken forever, like forgetting everybody's story, right,

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<v Speaker 2>We're getting all sides to the story. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what we were overall about.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess let's hear some general thoughts.

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<v Speaker 3>I really really really do not want to put this

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<v Speaker 3>arc as my least favorite, but because of the pacing,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it made it really really not fun for

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<v Speaker 3>me to watch. I actually absolutely loved the lore that

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<v Speaker 3>had like was dropped during this you know saga, and

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<v Speaker 3>I really loved how it almost kind of I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to say justified, right, but gave a reason as

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<v Speaker 3>to why Arlong is the way he is, and it

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<v Speaker 3>almost puts gives you like a different perspective on the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>This is coming from a race of people who have

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<v Speaker 3>been discriminated against basically for their entire lives, and now

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<v Speaker 3>we get to kind of see, you know, things from

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<v Speaker 3>their perspective, which I really enjoyed. However, I think this

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<v Speaker 3>arc definitely burnt me out of one piece for a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit. I remember I was I had to like

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<v Speaker 3>force myself to sit down to watch this arc, and

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<v Speaker 3>I did not have a lot of fun because I

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<v Speaker 3>was actually having this conversation with a friend. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>mind having long arcs as long as it's it's fun

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<v Speaker 3>and I feel like it's like moments are not wasted,

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<v Speaker 3>which is why I really enjoyed Water seven and and

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<v Speaker 3>He's Lobby saga because it is a pretty long saga,

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<v Speaker 3>but because I felt like each episode had its own

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<v Speaker 3>purpose and I didn't mind the length. However, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>feel the same way about Fishman Island.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, get ready for Dress Rosa.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm very sick myself.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ever want to get into one pace or

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<v Speaker 1>one of those versions or the manga, now might be

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<v Speaker 1>the time because I'm gonna be honest, Fishman Island ain't

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<v Speaker 1>even that bad. Me wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Chress Roasa's where I dropped the end. I just start reading.

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<v Speaker 1>Dress Rosa is where I started watching. Yeah, I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>Jordans Ross is where I started reading it as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think a lot of people did it, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's fucked. Dress Rosa is actually like one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best starts in the series.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's so good. It's Yeah, I didn't dislike it.

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<v Speaker 2>I just that's where I was just like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna read it instead. So I'm curious, have

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<v Speaker 2>you watched one pace around that time or or thereafter breaks?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I got the whole cake, so that would mean yes, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I had never watched one pace until recently. I

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<v Speaker 2>rewatched the East Blue saga and it felt so much faster.

426
00:21:20.880 --> 00:21:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Than one Pace does a good job. It literally only

427
00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:25.759
<v Speaker 1>shows what's in the manga. It does a great job.

428
00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:28.319
<v Speaker 1>I know. People say, oh, the cuts are jarring. Yeah,

429
00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:30.759
<v Speaker 1>you know what else is jarring? The forty five seconds

430
00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:33.160
<v Speaker 1>they did it between the cut that was not didn't

431
00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:34.119
<v Speaker 1>add any context.

432
00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:37.160
<v Speaker 2>The five minute recamp at the start of every episode.

433
00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Dude, it's not even that matter. Like I swear, they'll

434
00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:43.519
<v Speaker 1>take one panel and they'll turn it into fucking a minute.

435
00:21:43.640 --> 00:21:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that was one panel that was a singular moment.

436
00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:50.319
<v Speaker 1>I know anime's supposed to elongate things, but it's the

437
00:21:50.440 --> 00:21:52.799
<v Speaker 1>entire animal doesn't have the fucking gumbo gooboo no me.

438
00:21:54.480 --> 00:22:01.759
<v Speaker 5>Right right, So anyway, I'm hoping you got the breaking

439
00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:03.519
<v Speaker 5>you there, Posidon, because yeah, I think we all go

440
00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:05.359
<v Speaker 5>through that aead of times when you're watching through something

441
00:22:05.440 --> 00:22:06.519
<v Speaker 5>right and it like feels like.

442
00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:10.880
<v Speaker 2>It drags a bit. So yeah, as far as takeaways

443
00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:12.119
<v Speaker 2>that you might have enjoyed from this arc.

444
00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:15.440
<v Speaker 5>Were the the favorite parts.

445
00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:20.079
<v Speaker 3>I actually absolutely loved almost kind of like the different

446
00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:22.720
<v Speaker 3>die there was. I felt like there was a split

447
00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:25.160
<v Speaker 3>in fish Man Island where there were like, you know,

448
00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:29.720
<v Speaker 3>the fish people who kind of did want to have,

449
00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:31.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, equality with everyone, and then you have the

450
00:22:31.920 --> 00:22:34.680
<v Speaker 3>other half where they're like, no, they treated us horribly.

451
00:22:35.079 --> 00:22:37.640
<v Speaker 3>We need to, you know, stay separate from them. So

452
00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:40.079
<v Speaker 3>I love kind of how it went back and forth

453
00:22:40.119 --> 00:22:44.680
<v Speaker 3>where Queen Odehime she stood for let's try to, you know,

454
00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:49.240
<v Speaker 3>bridge the gap between us and the humans, whereas there's

455
00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Fishman like uh Hody Jones where he was just like, no,

456
00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:56.200
<v Speaker 3>I hate the humans. They need to be eradicated, and

457
00:22:56.240 --> 00:22:58.599
<v Speaker 3>we were stronger than them, so we need to take

458
00:22:58.640 --> 00:23:02.200
<v Speaker 3>over type of things. So I really liked that part

459
00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:04.839
<v Speaker 3>of the arc as well, as we did get some

460
00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:09.359
<v Speaker 3>huge lore drops. There is a phonoglyph down in Fishmont

461
00:23:09.359 --> 00:23:13.200
<v Speaker 3>Island where Robin was investigating and trying to find out

462
00:23:13.200 --> 00:23:18.039
<v Speaker 3>what it had said. So overall, thoughts, I really loved

463
00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:23.160
<v Speaker 3>the characters. I loved Shia Hoshi and her family. I

464
00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:28.079
<v Speaker 3>loved the visuals. It's very, very colorful. However, I think

465
00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:31.559
<v Speaker 3>one of my least favorite things during this arc was

466
00:23:31.599 --> 00:23:35.359
<v Speaker 3>actually Hody Jones. I thought he was a very one

467
00:23:35.359 --> 00:23:39.799
<v Speaker 3>of the more weaker villains, at least to me comparatively to.

468
00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:45.079
<v Speaker 2>I will say, like just the feom a little bit.

469
00:23:46.799 --> 00:23:48.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a big fan of Hody Jones either, but

470
00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:50.440
<v Speaker 2>I do like at least what they did thematically with

471
00:23:50.480 --> 00:23:53.079
<v Speaker 2>the arc where we got a lot more context about

472
00:23:53.200 --> 00:23:54.839
<v Speaker 2>Arlong and kind of why he is the way that

473
00:23:54.880 --> 00:23:57.880
<v Speaker 2>he is, right, So it's it's kind of warning about

474
00:23:57.880 --> 00:24:01.759
<v Speaker 2>like the dangers of the cycles of hatred and then

475
00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:04.880
<v Speaker 2>like inheriting hatred. Right, So it's like Arlong had those

476
00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:08.799
<v Speaker 2>personal experiences that like led to his hatred of humans

477
00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:12.000
<v Speaker 2>or like racism, specism, whatever you want to say. Hody

478
00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:14.960
<v Speaker 2>just kind of idolized like Arlong and those boys, and

479
00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:18.319
<v Speaker 2>he inherited it without ever experiencing any any of that

480
00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:21.680
<v Speaker 2>for himself, right. So, so I like what they did

481
00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:23.720
<v Speaker 2>there with it, but it does make him a lot

482
00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:26.640
<v Speaker 2>less compelling of a character, right, You don't really, He's

483
00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:27.400
<v Speaker 2>just kind of an a whole.

484
00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:28.160
<v Speaker 5>So yeah.

485
00:24:28.759 --> 00:24:31.599
<v Speaker 1>I also just feel like whenever there's a relatively like

486
00:24:31.720 --> 00:24:36.119
<v Speaker 1>weaker or slightly worse villain, people hate on the entirety

487
00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:38.519
<v Speaker 1>of the arc. They do that with Drum Island because

488
00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:41.319
<v Speaker 1>of Woppole, They do that with Bartier because of Don Krieg,

489
00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:43.039
<v Speaker 1>and they do that with fish Ben Island because of

490
00:24:43.039 --> 00:24:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Hody Jones. But I think all these arcs, while I

491
00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:48.920
<v Speaker 1>agree that the villain might not be the best, Drum

492
00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:52.599
<v Speaker 1>Island has some amazing and heartfelt moments. It does Bartier

493
00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:56.039
<v Speaker 1>think of Zorol versus me Hawk and the oath that

494
00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Zorrel puts to Loofy and Loufy's like kind of fight

495
00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:03.559
<v Speaker 1>without fear, and like it's like a Soanji's backstory and

496
00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:06.160
<v Speaker 1>him being inspired and like the relationship between him and

497
00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:09.039
<v Speaker 1>zeph There's so much that goes in Broughty, and I

498
00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:11.279
<v Speaker 1>just don't want people to shut down arcs because they

499
00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:13.319
<v Speaker 1>don't like Don Creek. It's like, there's so much more

500
00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:15.240
<v Speaker 1>to it, and I know it's not doing that. I'm

501
00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:18.799
<v Speaker 1>more just saying that in general, same with Loofy carrying

502
00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:22.119
<v Speaker 1>Gnami and Soanjy in his mouth and on his back

503
00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:25.079
<v Speaker 1>while climbing a ten thousand or a thousand foot straight

504
00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:28.720
<v Speaker 1>up cliff in the blizzard while it's frostbite in fucking

505
00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:31.759
<v Speaker 1>flip flops and oh my god, Like there's so many

506
00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:34.680
<v Speaker 1>moments that make one piece what it is, and they're like,

507
00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:37.480
<v Speaker 1>but wopple bed therefore arc bed. It's like, no, this

508
00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:38.599
<v Speaker 1>arc is fucking amazing.

509
00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:43.759
<v Speaker 2>I'll throw another defense in there for Ody Jones. Right,

510
00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:49.359
<v Speaker 2>Ody Jones is bad, but he's no vander Decker, right, Like, but.

511
00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:51.680
<v Speaker 1>They're both in the same arc, Jordan, they're both in

512
00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:52.359
<v Speaker 1>the mark.

513
00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:55.079
<v Speaker 2>But you know, you know, if you had to choose

514
00:25:55.119 --> 00:25:58.640
<v Speaker 2>one right Decker like, well, he was obsessed with Cheerosi,

515
00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:00.960
<v Speaker 2>which I can't blame him, but like he went too

516
00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:01.759
<v Speaker 2>far right, So.

517
00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:05.319
<v Speaker 1>I think Hody Jones serves his purpose. And the fact

518
00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:07.920
<v Speaker 1>that like Lufi got the flex and show all his

519
00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:10.640
<v Speaker 1>like coop power ups and same with the crew while

520
00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:15.279
<v Speaker 1>at the same time kind of like how do I

521
00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:17.559
<v Speaker 1>say this? It's like we got to see their flexes

522
00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:20.240
<v Speaker 1>right after a time skip, but also getting the lower

523
00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:22.799
<v Speaker 1>of Fishman Island and other things within the One Piece world,

524
00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and like Poseidon said, the relationship with like fish men's

525
00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:28.680
<v Speaker 1>and humans, we get all that and that's all good,

526
00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:31.880
<v Speaker 1>and Hody Jones doesn't need to be directly connected while

527
00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:35.359
<v Speaker 1>he is. As Jordan mentioned, I do think even in

528
00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:39.839
<v Speaker 1>our society today, it's like it's crazy how racism and

529
00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:43.400
<v Speaker 1>hatred and whatever it may be can be passed down

530
00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:46.920
<v Speaker 1>from generation to generation with people that never really like

531
00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:50.799
<v Speaker 1>aren't going to experience it the same as Arlong did

532
00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:55.000
<v Speaker 1>right like no, like Hody didn't really have interactions with

533
00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:58.440
<v Speaker 1>people or negative interactions, but because of how he was raised,

534
00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:01.799
<v Speaker 1>he grew up with in his heart right and then

535
00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:04.960
<v Speaker 1>he is now spreading it. I think it just he

536
00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:08.480
<v Speaker 1>does a great job with that. I don't see that

537
00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:10.519
<v Speaker 1>from a lot of other villains in One Piece that

538
00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:12.880
<v Speaker 1>are great for other reasons. Just because he's weak doesn't

539
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:17.200
<v Speaker 1>necessarily mean he's bad. He was a bad villain, but

540
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like he was meant to be bad, if

541
00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:23.279
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense, or maybe I'm missing soda Glazer, dude,

542
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I fucking glaze. I'm like, this is bad because he

543
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:26.119
<v Speaker 1>wanted it to be.

544
00:27:28.359 --> 00:27:33.279
<v Speaker 3>I think I'm more so like comparing I guess I guess. Yeah,

545
00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:37.039
<v Speaker 3>it came to Crocodile and do Flamingo, and like all

546
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:40.319
<v Speaker 3>these other villains feel like they have like a plan

547
00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:43.920
<v Speaker 3>and they're calculated and everything like that. So when we

548
00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:47.920
<v Speaker 3>got when I got to Hodi, I was just like, oh, okay,

549
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:50.680
<v Speaker 3>it's just a guy who hates humans, you know, It's

550
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:53.000
<v Speaker 3>not really much more than that, which is why I

551
00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:55.079
<v Speaker 3>was just kind of like, Eh, I'm not I'm not

552
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:59.440
<v Speaker 3>the hugest fan of Hodi. I think though the backstory

553
00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:05.519
<v Speaker 3>with like the other fishmen made it make sense, I suppose.

554
00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:08.720
<v Speaker 3>But I think one of my actual favorite characters that

555
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:12.039
<v Speaker 3>like new characters from this arc is actually Fisher Tiger.

556
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:13.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

557
00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:17.960
<v Speaker 3>I think he is such a great character and it

558
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:21.720
<v Speaker 3>made me. I think the only time I cried during

559
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:25.720
<v Speaker 3>this arc was when he died and he was telling

560
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:29.720
<v Speaker 3>all his crew please do not like tell anybody how

561
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:33.359
<v Speaker 3>I died. The hatred ends with our generation.

562
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's such a contrast to Hodie. Like, dude, he

563
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:41.279
<v Speaker 1>still hated humans, but he didn't want others to hate

564
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:43.480
<v Speaker 1>humans for how he died, which is crazy.

565
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Yesh.

566
00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:49.559
<v Speaker 1>So Fish Tiger is your favor, that's great.

567
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:52.599
<v Speaker 3>I think he's a great character and that was the

568
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:55.079
<v Speaker 3>only time I cried during this arc was during that

569
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:58.920
<v Speaker 3>episode where he did get I believe he did get

570
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:04.279
<v Speaker 3>shot right when Yeah, and you.

571
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:08.559
<v Speaker 2>Refuse the blood transfusion, right, which, uh yeah, which is

572
00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:12.680
<v Speaker 2>huge for you know that that tradition kind of got

573
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:16.119
<v Speaker 2>passed along and became a bit of a taboo, right. Yeah.

574
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:20.839
<v Speaker 2>It was so symbolic whenever Jim Bay uh you know,

575
00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:25.400
<v Speaker 2>let his blood be transfused into loofy. Right. So, along

576
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:30.319
<v Speaker 2>with some silly moments like like Sonji needing blood transfusions lately,

577
00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:32.279
<v Speaker 2>it was a lot of blood.

578
00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Can I say something here real quick, guys. I feel

579
00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:38.119
<v Speaker 1>like when I first watched this arc, I had a

580
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:40.759
<v Speaker 1>similar opinion to Poseidon, and so does so many people.

581
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:44.079
<v Speaker 1>But as one past Blazers, we need to like. The

582
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:47.359
<v Speaker 1>more I talk about it on podcasts, the more I realize,

583
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:50.680
<v Speaker 1>like or maybe I convinced myself that all these characters

584
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>are good. Someone in chat has said something, Pokin, I

585
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:56.480
<v Speaker 1>gotta read this. The drugs used to get more power

586
00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:00.160
<v Speaker 1>was cool to see the short that shortcuts don't give results.

587
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like everything about Holy's character is bad,

588
00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:07.400
<v Speaker 1>like the shortcuts, right.

589
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:10.319
<v Speaker 2>I think he's unlikable. I don't think he's saying.

590
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:14.519
<v Speaker 1>Unlikable and there's like these negative aspects of him as

591
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>a person, and I feel like that almost makes him

592
00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>a good character to get shipped on by Loofy. I'm dude,

593
00:30:20.920 --> 00:30:23.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm Hoy Jones top tiers.

594
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:25.720
<v Speaker 3>It's literally just the embodiment of hate.

595
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in person, he wasn't. It's crazy that it was

596
00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:32.920
<v Speaker 1>like hate passed down. It's nuts.

597
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:36.359
<v Speaker 2>He fits in thematically with what like kind of what

598
00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:38.880
<v Speaker 2>this arc needed, even if he's not, like, if you

599
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:43.079
<v Speaker 2>take him in isolation, he's not gonna impress anybody, right, So.

600
00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:44.599
<v Speaker 1>So many negatives make a positive, you know.

601
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Exactly exactly one thing I want to make sure we

602
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:51.079
<v Speaker 2>touch on though I know I I think I brought

603
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:52.640
<v Speaker 2>it up at the end of the last podcast, but

604
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:55.440
<v Speaker 2>I said, this is Poseidon's arc. Yes, what did you

605
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:57.599
<v Speaker 2>think about? It is the arc of Poseidon.

606
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:03.799
<v Speaker 3>That reveal had me on, like my jaw on the

607
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:07.759
<v Speaker 3>floor because I did not expect so Okay, I was

608
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.839
<v Speaker 3>actually talking about this on a stream previously and somebody

609
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:14.279
<v Speaker 3>had told me I was like interpreting it wrong, and

610
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:17.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm very, very convinced that it's not the case. So

611
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:21.640
<v Speaker 3>if SHEI ra Hoshi, the ancient weapon presided she is

612
00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:28.799
<v Speaker 3>y yeah, okay.

613
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:28.119
<v Speaker 2>Like you're pointing at each other, You're like, that's that's me.

614
00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:31.000
<v Speaker 2>That's okay.

615
00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:35.039
<v Speaker 3>Because someone was saying that Sidon's actually the Dad, and

616
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:39.720
<v Speaker 3>I was just like no, because I understand Neptune. Yeah,

617
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:43.400
<v Speaker 3>that's Neptune. So that's Roman. That's a romant thing. But

618
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:48.599
<v Speaker 3>I from my understanding, so the ancient weapon that Robin

619
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:51.640
<v Speaker 3>was reading about on the Pony Glyph was that there

620
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:53.880
<v Speaker 3>is going to be a mermaid who is going to

621
00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:57.680
<v Speaker 3>have the ability to communicate and control the c Kings

622
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:04.920
<v Speaker 3>in the ocean, and they are dangerous, and that is

623
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:07.480
<v Speaker 3>she or Hoshi, which she explains why she kind of

624
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:11.480
<v Speaker 3>is a lot different than her siblings. She's one very big,

625
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:15.480
<v Speaker 3>and two she's just she just has this mysterious power

626
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:21.039
<v Speaker 3>like you see in the flashbacks where I guess we

627
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:25.319
<v Speaker 3>can talk about this or O Tahime's assassination. Right, She's

628
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:27.640
<v Speaker 3>crying and all of a sudden, the sea Kings just

629
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.519
<v Speaker 3>kind of come over to Fishman Island and are ready

630
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:35.240
<v Speaker 3>to destroy the entire place. So I thought that was

631
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:38.960
<v Speaker 3>very interesting that this weapon isn't necessarily a physical thing.

632
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:44.000
<v Speaker 3>It's in a person. It's a person and it's her.

633
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:48.480
<v Speaker 3>So I thought that was insane. I did not expect.

634
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:51.680
<v Speaker 3>I thought it would have been like a cannon or something,

635
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:56.279
<v Speaker 3>or something buried under all the rubbule or something like that.

636
00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:59.119
<v Speaker 3>So I think it's super cool that it ended up

637
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:00.519
<v Speaker 3>being a person.

638
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, how she's such a cool character, right, it

639
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:04.960
<v Speaker 2>is she.

640
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Is and does a good job, because, like you, how

641
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:08.720
<v Speaker 1>boring would it be if it was just like three

642
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:12.759
<v Speaker 1>random weapons, like just oh, it's something married Yeah, like

643
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:16.079
<v Speaker 1>it's something lost in time and it was just an

644
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:19.039
<v Speaker 1>old machinery made because they had better science or something

645
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>like or or or or some old stuff that was

646
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>lost and forgotten and kind of hidden because of the

647
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:29.400
<v Speaker 1>void's entry or but even before it, Like I think

648
00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:32.039
<v Speaker 1>just having these twists that he always that it always

649
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>does is just so good.

650
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:39.279
<v Speaker 3>It's so so so good, which explains why her dad

651
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:42.880
<v Speaker 3>like locked her up, which was like there was one

652
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:46.920
<v Speaker 3>I forgot his name. I hated this carrier vander Decken. Yeah,

653
00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:50.279
<v Speaker 3>fuck that guy.

654
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I said, you might just like Hody, but at least

655
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:54.240
<v Speaker 2>he's no Vanderdecken or whatever.

656
00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:59.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Vancan was just weird because the pedal she is

657
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:02.400
<v Speaker 3>she was. He was he was praying on Shira Ho sheis,

658
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:04.720
<v Speaker 3>and she was like a child. She was like six

659
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.119
<v Speaker 3>or whatever. She was very very young.

660
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:10.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna lie. Like, until I was reviewing for

661
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:12.159
<v Speaker 2>this arc, I just like kind of blocked him out

662
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:12.639
<v Speaker 2>of my memory.

663
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.519
<v Speaker 3>I heard her, honestly valid, Oh my god.

664
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:17.840
<v Speaker 2>I remember, Like he's actually a thing, Like I just

665
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:18.800
<v Speaker 2>forgot about him.

666
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Like, I don't know how Neptune didn't kill that dude.

667
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:23.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean either was Like.

668
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:25.599
<v Speaker 1>I know he's older now, but he's pretty strong.

669
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:32.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean Bender Decker Bender Deck's pretty strong as well,

670
00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:35.000
<v Speaker 2>right like, and he's uh able to be a threat

671
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:39.159
<v Speaker 2>from from a very far distance away. So we see

672
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Shia Ho, she's u power kind of awakened and whatnot.

673
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:47.039
<v Speaker 2>Because he throws that ancient arc Noah at you know,

674
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:51.519
<v Speaker 2>at the island right or at her and uh, I

675
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:54.800
<v Speaker 2>don't remember all the specifics around that, but I guess.

676
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:57.320
<v Speaker 1>That's my least favorite part about this arc is the

677
00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:00.679
<v Speaker 1>fact now thinking back, like Neptune and the all the brothers,

678
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:06.239
<v Speaker 1>the brothers let that fucking that creepy pedophile live. They

679
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:08.960
<v Speaker 1>should have pulled up find him.

680
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:11.400
<v Speaker 3>That's what I would have done. I would have I

681
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:13.280
<v Speaker 3>would have killed him on the spot.

682
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:19.079
<v Speaker 2>But we needed him for the Noah. Joy Boy, lord drop, Okay,

683
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:21.400
<v Speaker 2>are going to get Noah all the way there?

684
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Can you remind me about so obviously we saw

685
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:27.639
<v Speaker 1>the Noah. Do we know what was said on the

686
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:30.280
<v Speaker 1>pony glyph in Fishman Island?

687
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:39.320
<v Speaker 3>I I'm trying to remember mainly about the weapon, right

688
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:43.800
<v Speaker 3>and then oh oh h joy Boy.

689
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's still a little foggy for me as well.

690
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:55.519
<v Speaker 3>Something about an apology, right, like something apologizing about something.

691
00:35:56.000 --> 00:36:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he apologized on the pony glyph and whatnot.

692
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:02.960
<v Speaker 2>But it had something to do with h Like he

693
00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:06.239
<v Speaker 2>had promised the princess that had previously had that Poseidon

694
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:11.000
<v Speaker 2>power to do something with the arc. I don't, I

695
00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:13.360
<v Speaker 2>don't quite remember the details, but like he hadn't he

696
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:15.039
<v Speaker 2>wasn't quite able to fulfill that problem.

697
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:17.599
<v Speaker 1>Or like the promise of bringing them to the surface.

698
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Or to the surface. Yeah, it was very similar in

699
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:22.920
<v Speaker 2>parallel to the promise that Lufy makes to share Hoshi. Right.

700
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:26.800
<v Speaker 1>So, do we have any theories about joy Boy or

701
00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the arc or something that Fishman Island may have triggered

702
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:30.280
<v Speaker 1>in you?

703
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:34.519
<v Speaker 3>So from my understanding. I almost kind of see a

704
00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:38.880
<v Speaker 3>parallel between Joey Boy and Loofy. The way I kind

705
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:42.639
<v Speaker 3>of interpreted is like, is history repeating itself? Like is

706
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:45.480
<v Speaker 3>whatever happened during the Void century, is this just going

707
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:49.079
<v Speaker 3>to happen again within you know, the current time. In

708
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:52.199
<v Speaker 3>one way, maybe that's kind of how I interpreted it.

709
00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:56.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm not entirely sure though, but it was. I think

710
00:36:56.480 --> 00:37:00.000
<v Speaker 3>this was the first time they mentioned a character named

711
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:03.039
<v Speaker 3>joy Boy. But yeah, all I know is that he's

712
00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:05.800
<v Speaker 3>a guy, he was powerful, he did something during the

713
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:07.480
<v Speaker 3>Boy's entry, and that's all we really know.

714
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:10.159
<v Speaker 1>I just thought we'd gotten something about joy Boy and

715
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:13.079
<v Speaker 1>Fishman in Skypia. But I think I was wrong. Who

716
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:15.440
<v Speaker 1>signed the pond and glyph in Skypea Goldie Rogers.

717
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:19.599
<v Speaker 2>Gee, Roger did it in Skypeia. But like the way

718
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.400
<v Speaker 2>they kind of connect is uh, Robin said she read

719
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:25.360
<v Speaker 2>on the one in Skypea that that there was an

720
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:27.960
<v Speaker 2>ancient weapon in Fishman Island, right, So I was talking

721
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:30.239
<v Speaker 2>about Sureshi and that it would be like a So

722
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:33.159
<v Speaker 2>like Robin knew a little bit about that. I don't

723
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:35.000
<v Speaker 2>know if we knew as an audience.

724
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:38.159
<v Speaker 1>But that's that's there. Being so many episodes, like how

725
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I've watched the entire show, read the entire show, and

726
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:43.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm still forgetting things. I'm like, did Goldie Rogers sign

727
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:45.320
<v Speaker 1>that pony Glyph? Or was it gold was a joy boy?

728
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:48.079
<v Speaker 3>I know there's a connection, right, Yeah, I believe it

729
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:51.800
<v Speaker 3>was Goldie Roger if I'm remembering. They were wondering how

730
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:53.159
<v Speaker 3>he even got up there?

731
00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Man could jump yet hops.

732
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Also, I didn't make a correction. Goldie Roger never said

733
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:04.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be King of the Pirates. It was

734
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.039
<v Speaker 1>just when when Lufi said that it were minded greatly

735
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:10.840
<v Speaker 1>of of Roger. Right, he never said I'm gonna be

736
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:13.320
<v Speaker 1>King of the Pirates. That didn't exist until he made

737
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:13.760
<v Speaker 1>it a thing.

738
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:17.559
<v Speaker 2>He set the precedent, right, So.

739
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:23.159
<v Speaker 1>What any cool moments, really cooler fun moments or badass

740
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:26.119
<v Speaker 1>moments about the actual fight toward the end.

741
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:28.039
<v Speaker 3>Of the arc, can I be honest?

742
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:28.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

743
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:30.360
<v Speaker 3>I did not like the fights in this arc.

744
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:35.599
<v Speaker 2>Damn, this is so it wasn't like Robins, this is

745
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:37.320
<v Speaker 2>double Robin. Yeah.

746
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:39.519
<v Speaker 3>I mean I think it was like the fights felt

747
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:43.599
<v Speaker 3>a little weak because it just it didn't feel dynamic

748
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:45.519
<v Speaker 3>enough for me. I suppose I think it was more

749
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:48.320
<v Speaker 3>there to like. Its purpose was to show off the

750
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:51.320
<v Speaker 3>powers of the straw hats. You see Robin kind of

751
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:55.679
<v Speaker 3>have more mastery over her deble throuit sogy can just

752
00:38:55.880 --> 00:39:00.159
<v Speaker 3>walk on air now, yeah, for whatever reason. And by

753
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:04.840
<v Speaker 3>one of my favorite scenes and it's so stupid is

754
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:10.280
<v Speaker 3>kind of almost like that flashback to Sonjy where he

755
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:13.000
<v Speaker 3>was during the two years and him just running away

756
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:18.159
<v Speaker 3>from all all the guys on that one are gals

757
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:23.480
<v Speaker 3>sorry on that one island, and then it showed like

758
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:26.480
<v Speaker 3>a like a sequencer no, it was actually no, yeah,

759
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:28.960
<v Speaker 3>And then there was like the one brook sequence where

760
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:32.440
<v Speaker 3>it was just dancing for however long that felt like forever.

761
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:33.480
<v Speaker 3>But I thought that was funny.

762
00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but we got to see Frankie and a cyborg

763
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:40.079
<v Speaker 1>see I'm about I'm about that ship.

764
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:41.239
<v Speaker 3>I thought that was cool.

765
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh what about Loofy's powers? Any cool Loofy powers? He liked.

766
00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:50.199
<v Speaker 3>I like that he's being able to use his hockey

767
00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:53.039
<v Speaker 3>more like. He looks like he's a lot more confident

768
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:54.880
<v Speaker 3>in it's fighting. It's a lot more like because I

769
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:58.159
<v Speaker 3>would know that previously, right, Lufy was a type of

770
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:01.280
<v Speaker 3>character that just was like, fuck it, We're just gonna

771
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:03.119
<v Speaker 3>go in, but it almost seems like Loofy is a

772
00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:07.679
<v Speaker 3>lot more calculated with how he attacks. But I don't

773
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:10.079
<v Speaker 3>know if I have like any particular moments of like

774
00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:12.599
<v Speaker 3>this arc that I'm like, you know, that was awesome

775
00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:13.639
<v Speaker 3>with fighting, but.

776
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:15.800
<v Speaker 1>I have a few.

777
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:18.039
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead.

778
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:20.800
<v Speaker 2>The biggest one I think is the fact that there

779
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:25.599
<v Speaker 2>was like one hundred thousand fishmen or whatever, and yeah, right.

780
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:29.840
<v Speaker 1>The observation hockey on fifty thousand people is crazy, and

781
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:33.599
<v Speaker 1>like the casual push aside of both Zoro and and Sundry,

782
00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:35.519
<v Speaker 1>and then Zoro was like, well if he didn't do

783
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:37.800
<v Speaker 1>at least that he couldn't be my captain. I don't know.

784
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm a sucker for some like like small like one

785
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:44.679
<v Speaker 1>piece like lines like that. I liked that Loofy used

786
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:48.960
<v Speaker 1>a firefist attack after his brother underwater, which totally makes sense.

787
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:54.079
<v Speaker 1>There was that you get to see the actual umman

788
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:57.119
<v Speaker 1>hockey on his like gear three attacks. There's so many

789
00:40:57.159 --> 00:40:59.519
<v Speaker 1>little things that I just appreciate. I like this arc.

790
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I like it. I like it.

791
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:06.199
<v Speaker 2>I liked the argument he had with Jim Bay a

792
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:08.840
<v Speaker 2>little bit, like I remember him saying, oh, you know,

793
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be a hero, right, Heroes would

794
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:12.400
<v Speaker 2>share their meat. I want all the meat.

795
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:14.719
<v Speaker 1>But like that, that's so good.

796
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Jis explained more about Loofy, right, we could understand his

797
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:19.920
<v Speaker 2>philosophy where his head's at. He's not a hero, right,

798
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:21.159
<v Speaker 2>He's just him.

799
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:24.400
<v Speaker 1>So I mean that also adds to Poseidon's thoughts on

800
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:27.239
<v Speaker 1>the arc, and like the relations between fish men and humans,

801
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Jim Bay wanted Loofy to be a symbol that humans

802
00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:34.800
<v Speaker 1>are okay, humans can be heroes and Lufy's like, no,

803
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:38.800
<v Speaker 1>fuck that not because not because I'm not a good person,

804
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:41.760
<v Speaker 1>but I don't want to be a hero. I'm a pirate.

805
00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:44.639
<v Speaker 1>Heroes share their meat. I want all the meat. And

806
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:47.760
<v Speaker 1>it was hilarious, shows you how Loofy is like Jordan's said.

807
00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:50.400
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, Jim Bay's like, you know what,

808
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:52.360
<v Speaker 1>that's still okay because at the end of the day,

809
00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:55.679
<v Speaker 1>they'll see you. They'll still see you as a savior.

810
00:41:55.880 --> 00:41:58.360
<v Speaker 1>As long as I play things right. He's gonna save

811
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:00.400
<v Speaker 1>the island the way the same way he says people

812
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:04.239
<v Speaker 1>in Alabasta. He saved people in every arc, or in

813
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:05.079
<v Speaker 1>so many arcs.

814
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Can I mention something I know it's a little off topic,

815
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:10.079
<v Speaker 3>go for it? Can I mention? There's this one character

816
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:13.760
<v Speaker 3>I absolutely, absolutely.

817
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:14.639
<v Speaker 2>You love you're talking about Cariboo.

818
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:23.360
<v Speaker 3>This is I ain't why did it? They just kill him?

819
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I swear he's back at the end of her maga

820
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:26.519
<v Speaker 1>again too.

821
00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:30.400
<v Speaker 3>No tell me you're lying, because I would. I'm hoping.

822
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:32.559
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh my god, I hope he dies.

823
00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:34.280
<v Speaker 1>You can't get rid of.

824
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:39.840
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna hate it when Cariboo joins the straw Hats.

825
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:40.960
<v Speaker 2>To stand out, Jim bays, I.

826
00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:43.639
<v Speaker 1>Would ionically rather Cariboo join the straw Hat than some

827
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:46.000
<v Speaker 1>characters that people want to join the straw Hats, which

828
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I can't I guess I can't say because they're spoilers.

829
00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:49.599
<v Speaker 1>But you know, some of them.

830
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:51.159
<v Speaker 2>Have such a tragic character.

831
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:55.599
<v Speaker 1>Dude, imagine a TSN turning point. Imagine where you get

832
00:42:55.639 --> 00:43:00.119
<v Speaker 1>a Caribou redemption arc or he just continues to be.

833
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:04.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, put yourself in his shoes, right, like

834
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:10.119
<v Speaker 2>put yourself in his shoes. This man jumps the straw Hats, valorous, courageous,

835
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:12.480
<v Speaker 2>like he is willing to take them on, right. He

836
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:15.000
<v Speaker 2>jumps forward, leading the charge and then move move, you know,

837
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:19.719
<v Speaker 2>throw back to Arlong Park gets scared, runs away. He's stranded.

838
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:22.000
<v Speaker 2>It's just him versus all the straw hats, right, so

839
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:24.400
<v Speaker 2>he has to go low key and then he has

840
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:26.559
<v Speaker 2>to see the ship, his pirate ship with his brother.

841
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:29.360
<v Speaker 2>It just gets grabbed by a crack and destroyed. They all,

842
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure they're all dead, like this man went through.

843
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:32.599
<v Speaker 3>It, right.

844
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:34.480
<v Speaker 2>This was a crazy art for Cariboo.

845
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:38.760
<v Speaker 1>He has the next cover story and it's low key

846
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:44.199
<v Speaker 1>Redemption Act. There's no way, my boy, my goats. I

847
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:51.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Oh my god.

848
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:54.079
<v Speaker 2>I get mad when people mess with Shira Hoshi. I

849
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:56.519
<v Speaker 2>wish he didn't do that. But like, aside from that.

850
00:43:56.960 --> 00:43:59.079
<v Speaker 1>You know what, I get it. Beside it, obviously, there's

851
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:01.760
<v Speaker 1>the moment in Fishine Island where he just like absorbs

852
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:05.480
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of fish mermaids just to sell them. He's

853
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:11.239
<v Speaker 1>a piece of ship. Yeah he's a villain, but oh sorry, ahead,

854
00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:13.920
<v Speaker 1>nothing better than a villain that uh somehow has a

855
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:14.559
<v Speaker 1>redemption arc.

856
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:18.159
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I you know, I I honestly hope so,

857
00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:22.599
<v Speaker 3>because I absolutely hate him right now, I think we

858
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:28.239
<v Speaker 3>should talk about we did get some up like updates

859
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:30.840
<v Speaker 3>about what the heck's been going on in the world.

860
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:35.199
<v Speaker 3>As outside of Fishman Island, we do find out that

861
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:39.079
<v Speaker 3>a Kaiu is now the Fleet Admiral of the Marines

862
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:42.199
<v Speaker 3>and al Kig and him were fighting over the position,

863
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:47.519
<v Speaker 3>and al Kig ended up losing and Alkigi leaves the Marines.

864
00:44:48.320 --> 00:44:56.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeahane, it was crazy, Yeah, yeah, and it makes me

865
00:44:57.039 --> 00:45:00.679
<v Speaker 4>sad because I think between both of those characters, I

866
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:02.599
<v Speaker 4>think Alkigi would be a better leader.

867
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:06.159
<v Speaker 3>Is just a you know at least. But the way

868
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:08.400
<v Speaker 3>I see Alkig, right, he's kind of like in that

869
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:12.960
<v Speaker 3>gray zone where he almost kind of doesn't see like

870
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.039
<v Speaker 3>privates is that bad as opposed to kin He's like

871
00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:18.239
<v Speaker 3>pirates are all bad because you see him even let

872
00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:21.599
<v Speaker 3>let Robin go when she was a child. He let

873
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:22.000
<v Speaker 3>her go.

874
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel like he let her live. Yeah, it's true.

875
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:30.159
<v Speaker 1>Al Kanu or yeah, did I say his name different

876
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:30.599
<v Speaker 1>every time?

877
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:33.599
<v Speaker 3>I think it's I don't know, it's one of those two.

878
00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:38.599
<v Speaker 1>She's like absolute justice, absolute Marine justice. Anyone that opposes

879
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:41.199
<v Speaker 1>the Marines is bad, and I will do anything and

880
00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:44.639
<v Speaker 1>sacrifice anything to accomplish the goals of the Marines in

881
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:49.119
<v Speaker 1>the world government. While like Alkigi is more of a

882
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:53.079
<v Speaker 1>actual person with like varying beliefs and like we'll have

883
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:56.800
<v Speaker 1>some gray area and see people as people and not

884
00:45:56.960 --> 00:45:59.559
<v Speaker 1>as you're a pirate. You're bad. The world government hates,

885
00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:01.960
<v Speaker 1>so you're bad. And like he kind of I feel

886
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:04.400
<v Speaker 1>like he's so powerful and so chill and so lazy

887
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:07.079
<v Speaker 1>that he kind of just like does what he wants

888
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:09.280
<v Speaker 1>while also doing his job.

889
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:11.599
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

890
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:16.000
<v Speaker 1>They're both good characters in different ways. Obviously, I would

891
00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:20.719
<v Speaker 1>have preferred al Kigi to be to have one as

892
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:22.360
<v Speaker 1>well and been the leader. I think that'd been cool.

893
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:23.920
<v Speaker 1>But it's also cool to see what he does now.

894
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:24.199
<v Speaker 2>Right.

895
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we also did get an update, so black Beard

896
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:33.159
<v Speaker 3>does become an emperor now he does fill in that spot. Yeah,

897
00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:36.920
<v Speaker 3>white Beard and he is now him and his crew

898
00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:40.280
<v Speaker 3>have been hunting Devil for users, right, They're trying to

899
00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:44.000
<v Speaker 3>take their powers for themselves, and I think that's very

900
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:52.719
<v Speaker 3>very dangerous. That's really scary. So yeah, black Beard's a mess.

901
00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:57.199
<v Speaker 3>He is, and it's not I don't it didn't. I

902
00:46:57.480 --> 00:46:59.360
<v Speaker 3>don't know how he takes the Devil for powers, and

903
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:02.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm not supposed to know. Right up until this point,

904
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:03.679
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how he does it.

905
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I do, I don't think, I don't think. I don't

906
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:07.679
<v Speaker 2>think it's said up to this point, right.

907
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:09.599
<v Speaker 1>There's so many things that you've talked about in the

908
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:11.760
<v Speaker 1>theorized and I'm just like, I don't know either.

909
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I don't think at this point we would

910
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:16.719
<v Speaker 2>we would know, right.

911
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:20.480
<v Speaker 1>And we're what you're what ups are you on? In?

912
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Me? Yeah?

913
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:22.480
<v Speaker 1>In Punk Hazard? Where are you at?

914
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:22.719
<v Speaker 2>Now?

915
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

916
00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:25.320
<v Speaker 3>I just got to I just finished episode six to.

917
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:28.719
<v Speaker 1>One, six o one. You're still yeah, what percent? Are

918
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:31.400
<v Speaker 1>you fifty percent? Are we twelve hundred? Yet we're twelve something, right?

919
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:34.639
<v Speaker 1>I know we were in the eleven hundreds for sure.

920
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:37.119
<v Speaker 1>You might be over the fifty percent mark.

921
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:41.880
<v Speaker 3>I know that's crazy. I'm actually getting through Punk Hazard

922
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:44.480
<v Speaker 3>pretty uh. I mean, we'll talk about it next episode,

923
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:47.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure, helly, But I will say I actually really

924
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:50.880
<v Speaker 3>really enjoyed Punk Haszard. I think Punk Hazard's a good arc,

925
00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:52.960
<v Speaker 3>and I'm excited to talk about it.

926
00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah, she's excited.

927
00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:59.440
<v Speaker 1>We're at one and ninety roughly or elevens Oh no,

928
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:02.199
<v Speaker 1>it was after eleven seventy four. See, you're over the

929
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:05.320
<v Speaker 1>halfway point for sure, which is kind of like it's

930
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:07.000
<v Speaker 1>crazy that, oh my god, you're so far. But at

931
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:09.119
<v Speaker 1>the same time, It's like we've been doing this podcast

932
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:11.719
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. You've watched six hundred episodes of

933
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:14.559
<v Speaker 1>anime and we're talking about, oh, she's above the fifty

934
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:18.199
<v Speaker 1>percent park, Like what is truly that? Like Iceberg meme,

935
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:21.559
<v Speaker 1>where like there's always so much more underneath the surf

936
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:22.840
<v Speaker 1>below sea level.

937
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:26.079
<v Speaker 3>My goal for twenty twenty six is to get caught

938
00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:26.760
<v Speaker 3>up with one Piece.

939
00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Let's do it.

940
00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:30.199
<v Speaker 3>It is my goal, and I'm really looking forward to

941
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:32.639
<v Speaker 3>it because most of my friends that I have, like

942
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:35.519
<v Speaker 3>my IRL friend group, they are all caught up in

943
00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:37.679
<v Speaker 3>one Piece. I am like one of the only people

944
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:40.039
<v Speaker 3>in my friend group that aren't there yet. So every

945
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:42.679
<v Speaker 3>time I talk to them, they're like, side are you?

946
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:44.679
<v Speaker 3>Are you getting through it? We really really want to

947
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:46.519
<v Speaker 3>talk to you about this, And I'm just like, don't

948
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:49.360
<v Speaker 3>say anything yet. I am getting through it.

949
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:53.320
<v Speaker 1>That's the hardy part of the better. I'm yeah, you're

950
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:54.800
<v Speaker 1>not caught up, Jordan, where are you?

951
00:48:55.480 --> 00:48:57.239
<v Speaker 2>It's been a couple of years for me, Like I

952
00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:02.360
<v Speaker 2>was midway through uh An our Cold Eggheads whenever I

953
00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:03.800
<v Speaker 2>finish reading, but I need to go back and like

954
00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:06.920
<v Speaker 2>reread in its entirety because that was in week the week.

955
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:09.199
<v Speaker 1>I have a thought process. If you're if the next

956
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:11.480
<v Speaker 1>arc after the arc you're on isn't done yet, you

957
00:49:11.639 --> 00:49:13.800
<v Speaker 1>actually really haven't missed much, because like.

958
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:17.039
<v Speaker 2>I like the bit rebinge through like an arc in

959
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:19.920
<v Speaker 2>its entirety there after because then it like it sticks better,

960
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Like I feel like I struggled going week the weeks.

961
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean not to be a spoil but we spent

962
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:26.880
<v Speaker 1>a whole year of reading the manga without really seeing

963
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:31.639
<v Speaker 1>Loofy because of a flashback, right, a singular flashback could

964
00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:33.199
<v Speaker 1>take months.

965
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:38.440
<v Speaker 2>So you like that fish was going right, the next.

966
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Arc after the one you're on, Jordan like isn't done yet,

967
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:42.400
<v Speaker 1>so you really haven't missed that much.

968
00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:47.559
<v Speaker 2>Let's go. That's why I'm not behind behind, but I

969
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:51.039
<v Speaker 2>am behind right, So I'll catch up one day. We'll

970
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:53.199
<v Speaker 2>see for the podcast.

971
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:54.599
<v Speaker 1>Are they longer?

972
00:49:54.840 --> 00:49:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

973
00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Are your friends manger readers or anime only?

974
00:49:57.400 --> 00:49:58.360
<v Speaker 3>They're actually both.

975
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:00.639
<v Speaker 2>Let's go culture.

976
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:02.880
<v Speaker 3>I think they're caught up with the manga now, but

977
00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:05.159
<v Speaker 3>they watch the anime as the anime comes out.

978
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, they're they're bigger fans than us.

979
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:12.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, honestly, that's all the yup about. I cannot be

980
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:14.280
<v Speaker 3>in the same room as them because I don't want

981
00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:15.400
<v Speaker 3>to hear what they're talking.

982
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I'll watch like some newer episodes because I hear it

983
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:19.480
<v Speaker 2>has like really good animation or something, so like i'll

984
00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:22.800
<v Speaker 2>go watch bits and pieces and stuff. But but yeah,

985
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:25.519
<v Speaker 2>I haven't kept up with the anime since uh dress

986
00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Rosa right as far as like every episode.

987
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:30.719
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, no, I'm probably there with you, Jordan, like

988
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:32.679
<v Speaker 1>I watched a good amount on stream and stuff, but

989
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:35.119
<v Speaker 1>like I read the manga religiously, I'll fall behind like

990
00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:37.760
<v Speaker 1>four or five chapters, maybe six chapters max. But then

991
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:40.280
<v Speaker 1>like if an episode comes out every now and then,

992
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll just watch it if I hear like hype about it,

993
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:45.039
<v Speaker 1>even though I haven't watched the last twenty just because

994
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I know I've read the manga. I know what's happening.

995
00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:50.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I said, the arcs are so long and

996
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:52.719
<v Speaker 2>like they're so but they're still so put together. Well

997
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:55.159
<v Speaker 2>yeah that like I just have to like reread it

998
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:58.880
<v Speaker 2>there after, Like I said, even rereading arcs for this podcast, right, like,

999
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:01.320
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I noticed so many things where there's

1000
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:03.440
<v Speaker 2>like a vibe to each arc right where it's just

1001
00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:06.280
<v Speaker 2>it's telling the the ebb and flow of like a

1002
00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:10.360
<v Speaker 2>singular island story, and I don't know, experiencing get together

1003
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:12.800
<v Speaker 2>is better than week the week in my opinion.

1004
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:15.800
<v Speaker 1>We need to get beside the whole cake asap so

1005
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:17.039
<v Speaker 1>that I could finish my wad phone.

1006
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:24.119
<v Speaker 3>We did get introduced to the Big Mom Pirates, which

1007
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:27.400
<v Speaker 3>I think is very very important tribute.

1008
00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:30.239
<v Speaker 2>They do gangsters.

1009
00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:34.400
<v Speaker 3>They show up to part of her crew or two

1010
00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:38.320
<v Speaker 3>of her crew show up to to fish one island

1011
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:40.480
<v Speaker 3>because they make the best candy and they don't have

1012
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:44.639
<v Speaker 3>the candy. So Lufi is on the the phone with

1013
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:51.280
<v Speaker 3>them male phone forget the name already, and then and goes, yeah,

1014
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:51.599
<v Speaker 3>I ate.

1015
00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:54.320
<v Speaker 1>The candy, takes the blame and tells her.

1016
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:57.000
<v Speaker 3>He takes the blame and tells her off and almost

1017
00:51:57.000 --> 00:51:59.599
<v Speaker 3>wages basically wages war against her and her crew.

1018
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:00.960
<v Speaker 2>It's what he do.

1019
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:03.760
<v Speaker 3>And uh threatens to take over her spot as emperor.

1020
00:52:03.960 --> 00:52:07.119
<v Speaker 3>So that's really scary, and uh, I think that's our

1021
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:09.719
<v Speaker 3>first interaction with Big Mom, right yeah.

1022
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we see through that like kind of some

1023
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:17.360
<v Speaker 2>of the different UH, I guess world building, you'd you'd

1024
00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:19.280
<v Speaker 2>call it as far as like out how those power

1025
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:24.280
<v Speaker 2>gaps are big filled because I think fisherman island used

1026
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:25.920
<v Speaker 2>to be under white Beard, right, and he didn't demand

1027
00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:29.079
<v Speaker 2>tribute or anything. And then we see that after he's gone,

1028
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:31.719
<v Speaker 2>like those gaps are being filled in elsewhere, be black

1029
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Beard or a Big Mom in this case, right, and

1030
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:37.159
<v Speaker 2>she's like demanding they pay a certain amount every every

1031
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:41.559
<v Speaker 2>so often, right for her protection so that her flag's

1032
00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:42.679
<v Speaker 2>there on the island. Right.

1033
00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:46.199
<v Speaker 1>Some people, when we talk about arcs and like say

1034
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:48.079
<v Speaker 1>the arc names used to get upset at us, like

1035
00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:51.880
<v Speaker 1>not drink Poseidon's Watch Through, but drink Animax Watch Through.

1036
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:55.119
<v Speaker 1>They would be like, stop talking about Wana or Whole Cake.

1037
00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, dude, what I watched this for the first time,

1038
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:00.400
<v Speaker 1>and when everyone else watched and read this for this time,

1039
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:02.679
<v Speaker 1>we knew what what what arcs were gonna be in

1040
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:05.119
<v Speaker 1>the New World before they even happen. We're all theorizing.

1041
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:07.599
<v Speaker 1>Of course, at some point we're going to Elbath because

1042
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:09.760
<v Speaker 1>USAF wants to go to Elbath. Of course, at some

1043
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:13.119
<v Speaker 1>point we're going to Whole Cake and or some interaction

1044
00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:15.079
<v Speaker 1>with Big Mom. Because of what happened on Fishmn Island.

1045
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:17.519
<v Speaker 1>We know that Wana is gonna happen at some point.

1046
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:19.679
<v Speaker 1>It's been mentioned a few times by now like and

1047
00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:20.280
<v Speaker 1>we know that.

1048
00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, I don't, but the arc tells you much either,

1049
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:28.039
<v Speaker 2>like yes, I don't know, Like it doesn't we do anything.

1050
00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:31.840
<v Speaker 1>For thriller Bark. We know that Reuma came from the

1051
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:35.320
<v Speaker 1>land of Wana in the New World, like it's gonna happen,

1052
00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:38.360
<v Speaker 1>and people used to get pissed. I'm like, it's fine.

1053
00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:41.400
<v Speaker 3>It's fine also because I think I mentioned this all

1054
00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:44.039
<v Speaker 3>the time on this podcast, But I do actively play

1055
00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:46.559
<v Speaker 3>the card game. I go to locals like four times

1056
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:49.280
<v Speaker 3>a week. I have a big tournament coming up. Like

1057
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:52.440
<v Speaker 3>I I play the card game. I have like every

1058
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:56.239
<v Speaker 3>single meta deck built. I obviously there's gonna be cards

1059
00:53:56.239 --> 00:53:58.880
<v Speaker 3>in there. Then I'm just like, why does it say

1060
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:02.559
<v Speaker 3>that at the bottom of the are Like what is

1061
00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:05.480
<v Speaker 3>this you know scene? You know, stuff like that. So

1062
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:09.360
<v Speaker 3>I do have and I do kind of know, right

1063
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:11.920
<v Speaker 3>the timeline of what arcs are going to be coming up,

1064
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:15.079
<v Speaker 3>kind of like what to expect character wise, because like

1065
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:17.039
<v Speaker 3>I know that Do Flamingo is going to be the

1066
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:19.480
<v Speaker 3>main villain and dresser Rosa, Like that's not a secret

1067
00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:22.360
<v Speaker 3>to me. For me, I think what's important, right is

1068
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:25.199
<v Speaker 3>I guess the journey from to get there, yeap. So

1069
00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:28.079
<v Speaker 3>I mean I already knew Ace was going to die, like,

1070
00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:30.519
<v Speaker 3>but I didn't know how he was going to die.

1071
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:32.960
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know, you know, the events leading up to it.

1072
00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:36.039
<v Speaker 3>And I think that's the most important part. So I mean,

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00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:38.320
<v Speaker 3>I also understand right where people get upset at the

1074
00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:41.000
<v Speaker 3>same time, it's like you can't avoid, especially with one Piece.

1075
00:54:41.039 --> 00:54:43.199
<v Speaker 3>It's so popular, you can't avoid every single day.

1076
00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:47.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's been out for twenty five years. It's about

1077
00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:49.119
<v Speaker 1>the journey. You guys both said it so perfectly.

1078
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:52.920
<v Speaker 2>These AI algorithms get us figured out way too quickly, Okay,

1079
00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:54.239
<v Speaker 2>I want to I want to say that, so like

1080
00:54:54.280 --> 00:54:56.280
<v Speaker 2>I get it. I've been in beside shoes. I will

1081
00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:58.239
<v Speaker 2>like every picture of Nico Robin I see, and then

1082
00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:00.440
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna tell me more. It's gonna show me all right,

1083
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:02.000
<v Speaker 2>so it knows I like Nico Robbins.

1084
00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:05.039
<v Speaker 1>The algorithm is so strong that I literally have the

1085
00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:08.760
<v Speaker 1>keywords one piece, one Piece, chapter, I all these keywords

1086
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:11.599
<v Speaker 1>on on X like muted, and I like one picture

1087
00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:14.159
<v Speaker 1>of Robin and it's my entire feed. I'm like, I

1088
00:55:14.239 --> 00:55:18.199
<v Speaker 1>have the words muted, but they'll say Nico Robin and

1089
00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:21.760
<v Speaker 1>not use the word one piece, and then somehow things

1090
00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:24.079
<v Speaker 1>in the newest chapter are still being shown on my

1091
00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:26.079
<v Speaker 1>timeline because they don't use the word one piece in

1092
00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:28.920
<v Speaker 1>the fucking tweet. But do I have to do? I

1093
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:30.960
<v Speaker 1>have to x out every character as well.

1094
00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:32.719
<v Speaker 2>No, no, And you're not even allowed to ban the

1095
00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:35.400
<v Speaker 2>word Nico Robin because that's just the sin, right, that is.

1096
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:37.480
<v Speaker 3>Against the law.

1097
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I would rather get spoiled than not have around my timeline.

1098
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:44.639
<v Speaker 2>Real it gets along at least fourteenth and the open Oceans.

1099
00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:46.239
<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's real.

1100
00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:48.519
<v Speaker 1>Stuff, all right, guys. Let's have some final thoughts on

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00:55:48.599 --> 00:55:51.639
<v Speaker 1>Fishman Island and Sabad or the return to Sabo.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I think talking about it made me like the

1103
00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:57.639
<v Speaker 3>arc a little more, but I will say I think

1104
00:55:57.639 --> 00:55:58.440
<v Speaker 3>it is ranked.

1105
00:55:58.199 --> 00:56:00.920
<v Speaker 1>A little bit lower.

1106
00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:03.920
<v Speaker 3>His favorite arcs. But I do think it was a

1107
00:56:04.039 --> 00:56:07.800
<v Speaker 3>very very important arc to watch, and I'm actually really

1108
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:12.599
<v Speaker 3>looking forward to continuing my journey. I guess next time

1109
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:15.440
<v Speaker 3>we talk we'll talk about Punk, Castre and Avoid. I really,

1110
00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:17.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you right now, I'm halfway done and I

1111
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:18.159
<v Speaker 3>love the.

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00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Arc, so hell yeah, love to hear it.

1113
00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:22.599
<v Speaker 1>I will say, Yeah, the more you talk about one Piece,

1114
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the more you realize that, wow, this arc was bad,

1115
00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:26.920
<v Speaker 1>but it was it was bad in comparison to all

1116
00:56:26.920 --> 00:56:29.440
<v Speaker 1>the S tier arcs that One Piece has, when in

1117
00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:32.280
<v Speaker 1>reality it's like, oh, that was like a B that

1118
00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:34.800
<v Speaker 1>was like a B arc or like a C plus arc.

1119
00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:37.039
<v Speaker 1>It's like that was a very good arc. It's just

1120
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:40.159
<v Speaker 1>we're comparing it to and his Lobby Lobby and water.

1121
00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:43.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and Alabasta for s Tiers.

1122
00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:45.599
<v Speaker 1>And r Along Park and like all these S tier arcs,

1123
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:47.400
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, yeah, that was that was just not

1124
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:50.320
<v Speaker 1>as good because we didn't like the villain. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, one Piece is peak.

1126
00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:59.239
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of peaks, like I'm still not over how Loofy

1127
00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:01.519
<v Speaker 2>and Shira Hoshi all right or how they met this

1128
00:57:01.639 --> 00:57:05.199
<v Speaker 2>art went wild, all right, fling on coral and just

1129
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:07.679
<v Speaker 2>like bouncing like a trampoline. He had no idea, right,

1130
00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:10.880
<v Speaker 2>So that that was the moment that like stuck with

1131
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:11.639
<v Speaker 2>my memory.

1132
00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:13.599
<v Speaker 1>Zorro has nothing on her.

1133
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:15.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And on that note, I hope you guys enjoyed. Remember

1135
00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:26.119
<v Speaker 1>to follow the One Piece version on on Spotify and

1136
00:57:26.159 --> 00:57:28.599
<v Speaker 1>other platforms. Check out The Boys the Anime Dude on

1137
00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Twitch and Presidon Mythos on all the platforms. I'm live

1138
00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:34.800
<v Speaker 1>on Kick as well these days. I just got partnered,

1139
00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:36.679
<v Speaker 1>so check me out on Kick, drop me off, follow,

1140
00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:39.199
<v Speaker 1>I love you guys, shimpock you, and I'll see you

1141
00:57:39.239 --> 00:57:40.159
<v Speaker 1>all next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye bye,
