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Speaker 1: Yo, what is a boys? How's it going? And welcome

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back to another episode of the One Piece Virgin podcast.

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We are so back boys. Today we're covering Fishbed Island,

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the Sawgus, and we will be touching upon the return

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to Sabad after the time skip with us. Today we

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have the One Piece Virgin herself, Poseidon Mythos. How's it going?

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Speaker 2: Gamer?

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Speaker 3: We are so back. It's been a very long time.

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The holidays I think kept all of us.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we're so busy, there's so much going on, but

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that's the point though. That's part of the One Piece

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immersion experience. Once they have a time skip, you got

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to have a time skip, right.

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Speaker 1: True, it's true. Also One Piece is a Brazilian episode.

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It's like life happens, you know, like it takes it

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takes years. It takes years. Sometimes they catch up just

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a finish season one.

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Speaker 3: Right, They didn't acually say that season one is over.

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Speaker 1: Season one is over and you've already watched two years

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worth of content anyway with it. Today we also have

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Jordan the anime Dude, how are you doing?

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Speaker 2: My friend? What's up? Everybody? Happy to be here? I'm

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excited for this one. It's been too long?

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, poseidon general thoughts on the saga, on the.

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Speaker 3: Saga, or you want me to go specific.

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Speaker 1: Arcs Okay, return to Saba Odie first, general thoughts, w

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or L.

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Speaker 3: I absolutely loved it. Am I able to lump in

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fan Letter in here because I did watch Fants?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god? Yes, I would more than allow that

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because I feel like that's the time it happens. And

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I love the return to or the fan letter.

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Speaker 3: So my initial watch of Return to Sabod I thought

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it was fun. It was cool to see each of

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the straw hats kind of come in with their new

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I guess improved what powers and redesigns. But I don't

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think I actually truly loved Return to Saba until I

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finished watching fan Letter.

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Speaker 1: I think it made me a pre it like was

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the Cherry on Top a lot more put it all together. Yes,

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I need to rewatch fan Letter. I like refresh my

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memory for Sabodi and fish By Island for this podcast,

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but I need to rewatch fan Letter. I remember when

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I watched it, I was obsessed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan, you.

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Speaker 3: Were so good.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, you remember that, that's my mind. I

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have not yet watched it you know what, I've not

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sat there and watched it.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: Thirty minutes?

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Speaker 2: I know, I know I've seen sections, but I haven't.

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I need to sit down and just watch it all.

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Speaker 1: I think I agree with Raf and chat fan Letter

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is easily better than the rest of Return to Sabodi.

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Speaker 3: I I honestly agree for the return to though, Yeah,

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because like there was a there was a two week break.

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Speaker 2: They also did the immersion right, Like they took two

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weeks off of one piece, and then they came back

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and everybody was returning Borrow show up first. That threw

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everything on its head, right, was it?

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Speaker 1: Like all the chaos going on on saba ODI's from

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a marine's perspective? I actually don't even remember it. I

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just remember being in love.

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Speaker 3: So fan letter it showed kind of like the events

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leading up and during. So there was like a section where, uh,

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I mean, I think it was a flashback. It showed

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I guess a marine soldier what he was doing during

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Marine forward. So you can see like Cuson's sorry, that's

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not his that's his real name? What's his? Not a

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kind new is it? It's a who's on ice?

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Speaker 1: Dude?

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Speaker 3: Like it shows there we go. It showed him kind

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of in the Battle of Marine Ford, and then from

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the perspective of the other navy that was there, the

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other Marines, And I thought that was really cool. And

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then it showed I guess the perspective of like an admiral,

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not an ad Sorry, I feel like that's too like

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a like an like a captain as well as like

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a fan of Namies. So you kind of get to

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see the events that were unfolding during return to Sabad

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from a different perspective, not from the straw Hats necessarily,

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but just regular people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one thing being like a member of the

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straw Hat and having chaos going around you imagine being

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a normal marine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which it's It shows how like the straw Hats,

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what they kind of mean to each like of those people.

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And I thought it was so funny that the big

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tough captain dude, he was just a huge Chopper fan,

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absolutely loved Popper. And then the marine guy his his

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I believe it, Please regrect me if I'm wrong. He

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appreciates Loofy because Loofy in invertedly saved his brother's life

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because his brother was also in the Marines. During the

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Marine four fight and uh, Loufy doesn't know it, but

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he saved this man's life. So he feels like he

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owes something.

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Speaker 1: I feel like me and Jordan are the virgins here

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and I'm hearing this for the first time from an expert.

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I'm not gonna lie you. Notice. I've ran and watched

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One Piece so many times. I only watched this one

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episode when I came out. I need to rewatch it.

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Speaker 2: I've only seen that one scene with the brother, so

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that's that's about it. I need to go back and

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watch the whole thing. So you're not wrong.

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Speaker 1: Let's dive back into the Return to sava od An.

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He highlights moments you found funny or great, and he

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nippicks anything like that.

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Speaker 3: Man, the fake straw hats were something else. They were

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something else, and it made me like, I mean, I

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understand there was Like I was like, Chopper, how do

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you not know? Not the real ones? Oh my goodness,

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who the heck is this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it shuts them there was Oh my god. One

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of my favorite parts of Return to is when Lufy

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is like backpacking all his stuff. Right, he has a

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hood over his head and he's walking down the square

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and he uses his hockey, I believe on the fake

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straw hats because they're like trying to rile him up

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and try to get in a fight with him, and

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he just uses his Conquerors hockey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he wanted to remain low key. Look at this

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for the first time, lufy trying to be low key

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and not get caught and like dodges some attacks and

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then uses hockey is conquers hockey to make them pass

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out and kind of get away without being spotted. Right,

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he's one of alarm people that he's back alive on

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the island. So on and so forth. I had some

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great moments that were more comedic, like just between Zoro

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and Soanjy Zorro constantly referring to Sanjy orfer like Zoro

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was like number one and Sonji was like number like

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seven to show up. I'm making up the numbers. I

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don't remember the actual numbers, but he was referring to

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him as by a number that he showed up. I

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found fucking hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Zoro always gets lost, right, him showing up first

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and then just riding that wave that high for the

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entire arc is uh yeah, is great. And then the

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throwback to uh to Meehawk right first time we saw

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me her Hawk versus first time we see Zoro post

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time skip, they kind of do the same thing.

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Speaker 1: So and then the Aul accidentally went to Fishman couldn't

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go to Fishman Island early he got on the wrong ship.

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Speaker 3: He was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the old man said like, oh, if you want

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to go fishing, go on my boat. And like he

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gets on a gigantic pirate ship and takes a nap

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and then they have it all coated and they're going

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underwater and then he cuts the ship in half with

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a bad ass moment. That was a really really cool

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moment that I liked. Any other moment you guys liked

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to talk about, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: I was just saying, that guy's just like Don Creek, right,

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like had their grand line journey cut short just because

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they happened the cross paths with the wrong swordsman on

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the wrong day, right, their ship half too real.

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Speaker 3: I loved when Nammy when you see me, she's like

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kind of in a bar and like, if I'm remembering correctly,

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someone was flirting with her and she didn't like it,

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so she used her new weather weather, which I thought

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was fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we get to see a lot of new things, right.

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We got to see different different outfits but also different

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powers and them and actually flex a little bit with

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their new powers. We got to see Oosop in that

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bar as well use some type of I believe it

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was in that bar that he used by based like

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attack with his slingshot. But we saw Nami use like

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a like a lightning based attack which was really cool

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and like way more powerful than in the past. Yeah,

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the pop greens green.

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Speaker 2: Pops he used.

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Speaker 1: Man, I have a bad memory. I need to go

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back to rewalking everything before having a conversation with Poseidon.

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This is bad al Kigi who.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, there was. There was. Like I said, there

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was a lot in like a very short spurt on

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on Sabad right because we're seeing everybody again, so everybody

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got a little bit of screen time there. M so

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king Brook having a concert, just announcing it. He was

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turned in because he they wanted him to be there, Uh,

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their money maker. He was retiring, right, so he's he's like,

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you know what, No, I'm off to be a pirate.

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Lukey's gonna be king And then he dips out like

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a true rock star. So he was a.

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Speaker 3: Superstar celebrity status.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm gonna be honest. I want to hear your

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thoughts on the new forms. I like the new version

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of Rob Robin a lot. I want to hear what

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you think about the new version of Robin compared to

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like her pre time scap because both are great.

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Speaker 3: They're great, I think design wise, I really really like

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her Fisherman Island outfit the most. However, I do miss

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her bangs.

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Speaker 1: I think like the bangs and and his lobby outfit

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was his peak.

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Speaker 3: Though it is the problem, it is, it is, it's

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so so good. I really loved her thriller Bark outfit.

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But it is nice and refreshing to see all of

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them have new designs, Like I really like Gnamy with

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long hair. I think that's cool. I think my face

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redesign or I guess new design out of everybody is

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actually oosop. I think looks awesome.

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Speaker 1: It's nice to see him a little bit more muscular

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and Jack, yes, don't worry, he looks. Don't worry, Poseidon

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the Bangs will be back in six hundred episodes, and

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like not even exaggerating, like, in six hundred episodes, we'll

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see bangs again and spoilers. I just it'll keep you watching.

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Speaker 3: I believe it's our l BAF design if I'm remembering correctly.

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Speaker 1: Damn, how do you know these things?

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen Twitter.

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Speaker 3: Twitter likes to like to tease me a little bit

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with one piece. I try to scroll past it, but

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if it's Nico Robin, I have.

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Speaker 2: To click it. You know that's too true.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is a hot take guys,

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but I don't like Frankie's new design.

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Speaker 3: I don't either. Oh, I think he's my least favorite.

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Speaker 2: But he's customizable. He's able to change his hair at will.

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They were like, yeah, everybody, everybody had their own training

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arcs over the two years, right, and then like that's

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the thing he shows off. He's like press the button,

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all boom, there's hair, and it's like that was what

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you were doing for these two years. Right. Like there's

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other stuff too. He's like, we'll talk about that later,

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but for now, I.

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Speaker 1: Just feel like I do like the fact that it's

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customizable the hair, but I just really prefer his old

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hair hairstyle, so like, not only does he have a

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completely different hairstyle and majority of the time but he's

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also like his body is so different too. It just

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really drastic for me and I. He was one of

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Speaker 2: I actually do kind of agree with that. I love

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Pree time Skip Frankie. If I had the compare how

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they look? Right?

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Speaker 1: So such a bro I don't know, And now he's

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a fucking mecha yea, I guess.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's still really cool, but like that, the

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hair can be very silly at times, right, So what's

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how they do it?

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Speaker 1: What about Zoro? Anything you notice about Zoro's.

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Speaker 3: I is stitched up and explained?

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Speaker 1: Why you ready for the sharing Gon and beam atag.

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Speaker 3: He's a lot more but a lot more muscular.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, his boobs got bigger?

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Speaker 3: He did it?

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Speaker 1: Did they keep on growing? I think his boobs are

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canonically bigger than Robin's, which I am I joking? Is

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that not real or that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it wouldn't surprise me those pecks. He works

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out a lot, right, that's true. He's also wearing like

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a kimono type thing now to show off all the

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scars that we've seen get over the years.

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Speaker 1: Like I might be reposting misinformation, but I'm pretty sure.

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Like Oda's really revealed all like they're like like bust

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sizes and Zorrel's was the biggest on the straw Hack crew,

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which I feel like just can't be real because every

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every frame, Robin and Nomalies just get bigger.

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Speaker 2: I've gotta say, Oda loves the hourglass figure, So like

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there's gotten bigger over the course of the series. Is

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that old info? Is this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I feel like theirs gets bigger in proportion to their body,

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but like all of Zorol's like shoulders and like waists

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and everything got bigger, So maybe it doesn't look as

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drastic look huge. Oh apparently they're bigger than Hancocks as well.

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Speaker 2: Like I could see that maybe being the case at

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this point, but I'm telling you, just as it goes on,

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I think that's the constant and one pieces that the

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boobs get bigger over time. Right, it's a I don't

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it's science. I don't make the rules so that it's life.

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Speaker 1: Anyway. Any other things about Saba Odi before we jump

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into the Meat and Potatoes nuts flatback loved.

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Speaker 3: Towards the end of the arc, you kind of see

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the characters that were with the straw Hats during the

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two years kind of send them off almost right, you

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see Boa kind of being like bye, lufy, like protecting him.

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Pirona's there, and I just think it's it's a very

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sweet moment, all of them kind of saying goodbye and

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sending them back off to Fishman Island. And I don't

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really sweet moment.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember it from the anime, but whenever I

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was rereading of this, like, uh, we saw like Heracles

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and uh the guy that trained us up and the

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Ocamas and uh, the people in the sky Island, they

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all kind of held off the rains a little bit

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as they as they left, right, So a bit of

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a send off there, and then uh, a lot of

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things they talked about from the island they did like

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on the way down, Like there was some info dumps there.

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Do we want to talk about those maybe next.

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Speaker 1: Or yeah, there's some cool stuff that happened on the

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way down, some info dumps.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Yeah, I mean, good work.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Jinks both can't talk, Okay, any

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any thoughts about Kuma, I guess I could.

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Speaker 2: I should say that was like one of the biggest.

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Speaker 3: I believe it did get revealed during this time, right,

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that Kuma was not a bad guy.

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Speaker 2: He was not.

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Speaker 3: He he did what he did at sad to save

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them because if he did not do that, Kisaru would

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have killed all of them.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah, he basically saved the crew. And then

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there after that he was able to give himself kind

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of one command to like unconsciously do and he guarded

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the ship until at least one person showed up, right,

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So he uh yeah, that was why the ship was

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still safe after all these years.

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Speaker 1: I think in return to so obviously we have that,

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which is really important. Trying to think of any other

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reportant things. The flashback with Raley and Roger is that's.

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Speaker 2: Also as that's like as they leave.

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Speaker 1: As they leave, do you remember that anything that caught

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your attention there?

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Speaker 3: I honestly can't remember that. So if you guys kind

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of want to.

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Speaker 1: Go over and help, so we just like Loufy says

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to Raley, I'm going to be King of the Pirates,

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and then I get flashes back to like Goldie Rogers

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saying that to Railey, and yeah, Roger is wearing something

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something that Loofy wears. Roger's wearing the same looking straw

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hat or the same straw hat like.

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Speaker 2: Of that, right, it's like a crown of some sorts.

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Speaker 1: It's correct me if I'm wrong, is that the first

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time we see Roger in a straw hat.

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Speaker 3: I honestly cannot recall him wearing like a straw hat

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before this, so it probably is.

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Speaker 1: Apparently he has it like in an opening, but this

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is the first time in the show. Yeah, I feel

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like we see it, and I feel like that's that's

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big because we know Shanks gave it to Loofy and

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now we know that somehow Roger had it before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, either that or it was just a huge fashion

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trend back then, right.

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Speaker 1: And that back in the day, Back in the day,

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straw hats were in. But Shanks also did say, just

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so you know this beside him, Shanks did say that

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before he wore it somewhat important wore that straw hat.

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That was Goldie Roger, damn. So I still think that

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straw hat is the one.

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Speaker 2: Piece they throw so much at you so quick time

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over right, So it's like this is all even before

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they get the Fishman Island.

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Speaker 1: It has also been two months since we've done this podcast,

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so we're helping each other and refreshing each other's each

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other's right here.

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Speaker 2: And it's probably been about that long since you watched it,

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right Besidon, So it's uh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's been a hot it's un a hot minute.

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Just to be completely transparent with you, guys, I am

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currently in the middle of Punk Hazard.

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Speaker 2: So oh damn yeah.

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Speaker 3: I uh, I'll get to it once we talk more

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about Fishman Island. I suppose I.

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Speaker 1: Think we do the rest of Fishman Island, or as

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much as Fishman Island you want to cover today, and

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then we'll do a whole episode on Punk Hazard when

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we get there.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I actually think we can probably cover all of

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Fishman Island today because I really think that the amount

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of content that was in Fishman Island did not need

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to take as long as it needed to.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you have that opinion because I like Fishman Island,

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but fun act this so remember I've been complaining about pacing. Yes,

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this is a point where it gets worse and continues

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to get worse because there was fifty six chapters in

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the Fishman or the Fishman Island saga. There's fifty seven episodes,

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meaning about one chapter an episode, which is not typical crazy,

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not typical.

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Speaker 2: Friend, not at all. So yeah, it's it's like it's

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it's a pretty quick arc when you read it. But

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I do remember watching it and just thinking, like the

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time the flashbacks in particular, right, I'm like, man, these

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are kind of taken forever, like forgetting everybody's story, right,

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We're getting all sides to the story. So I don't

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know what we were overall about.

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Speaker 1: I guess let's hear some general thoughts.

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Speaker 3: I really really really do not want to put this

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arc as my least favorite, but because of the pacing,

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I think it made it really really not fun for

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me to watch. I actually absolutely loved the lore that

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had like was dropped during this you know saga, and

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I really loved how it almost kind of I don't

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want to say justified, right, but gave a reason as

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to why Arlong is the way he is, and it

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almost puts gives you like a different perspective on the world.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: This is coming from a race of people who have

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been discriminated against basically for their entire lives, and now

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we get to kind of see, you know, things from

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their perspective, which I really enjoyed. However, I think this

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arc definitely burnt me out of one piece for a

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little bit. I remember I was I had to like

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force myself to sit down to watch this arc, and

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I did not have a lot of fun because I

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was actually having this conversation with a friend. I don't

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mind having long arcs as long as it's it's fun

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and I feel like it's like moments are not wasted,

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which is why I really enjoyed Water seven and and

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He's Lobby saga because it is a pretty long saga,

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but because I felt like each episode had its own

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purpose and I didn't mind the length. However, I don't

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feel the same way about Fishman Island.

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Speaker 1: Well, get ready for Dress Rosa.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm very sick myself.

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Speaker 1: If you ever want to get into one pace or

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one of those versions or the manga, now might be

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the time because I'm gonna be honest, Fishman Island ain't

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even that bad. Me wrong.

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Speaker 2: Chress Roasa's where I dropped the end. I just start reading.

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Speaker 1: Dress Rosa is where I started watching. Yeah, I agree,

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Jordans Ross is where I started reading it as well,

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and I think a lot of people did it, but

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you know, it's fucked. Dress Rosa is actually like one

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of the best starts in the series.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's so good. It's Yeah, I didn't dislike it.

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I just that's where I was just like, you know what,

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I'm just gonna read it instead. So I'm curious, have

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you watched one pace around that time or or thereafter breaks?

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Speaker 1: Because I got the whole cake, so that would mean yes, no.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I had never watched one pace until recently. I

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rewatched the East Blue saga and it felt so much faster.

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Speaker 1: Than one Pace does a good job. It literally only

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shows what's in the manga. It does a great job.

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I know. People say, oh, the cuts are jarring. Yeah,

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you know what else is jarring? The forty five seconds

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they did it between the cut that was not didn't

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add any context.

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Speaker 2: The five minute recamp at the start of every episode.

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Speaker 1: Dude, it's not even that matter. Like I swear, they'll

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take one panel and they'll turn it into fucking a minute.

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I'm like, that was one panel that was a singular moment.

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I know anime's supposed to elongate things, but it's the

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entire animal doesn't have the fucking gumbo gooboo no me.

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Speaker 5: Right right, So anyway, I'm hoping you got the breaking

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you there, Posidon, because yeah, I think we all go

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through that aead of times when you're watching through something

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right and it like feels like.

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Speaker 2: It drags a bit. So yeah, as far as takeaways

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that you might have enjoyed from this arc.

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Speaker 5: Were the the favorite parts.

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Speaker 3: I actually absolutely loved almost kind of like the different

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die there was. I felt like there was a split

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in fish Man Island where there were like, you know,

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the fish people who kind of did want to have,

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you know, equality with everyone, and then you have the

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other half where they're like, no, they treated us horribly.

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We need to, you know, stay separate from them. So

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I love kind of how it went back and forth

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where Queen Odehime she stood for let's try to, you know,

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bridge the gap between us and the humans, whereas there's

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Fishman like uh Hody Jones where he was just like, no,

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I hate the humans. They need to be eradicated, and

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we were stronger than them, so we need to take

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over type of things. So I really liked that part

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of the arc as well, as we did get some

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huge lore drops. There is a phonoglyph down in Fishmont

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Island where Robin was investigating and trying to find out

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what it had said. So overall, thoughts, I really loved

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the characters. I loved Shia Hoshi and her family. I

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loved the visuals. It's very, very colorful. However, I think

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one of my least favorite things during this arc was

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actually Hody Jones. I thought he was a very one

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of the more weaker villains, at least to me comparatively to.

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Speaker 2: I will say, like just the feom a little bit.

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I'm not a big fan of Hody Jones either, but

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I do like at least what they did thematically with

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the arc where we got a lot more context about

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Arlong and kind of why he is the way that

473
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,880
he is, right, So it's it's kind of warning about

474
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,759
like the dangers of the cycles of hatred and then

475
00:24:01,799 --> 00:24:04,880
like inheriting hatred. Right, So it's like Arlong had those

476
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,799
personal experiences that like led to his hatred of humans

477
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,000
or like racism, specism, whatever you want to say. Hody

478
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,960
just kind of idolized like Arlong and those boys, and

479
00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:18,319
he inherited it without ever experiencing any any of that

480
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,680
for himself, right. So, so I like what they did

481
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,720
there with it, but it does make him a lot

482
00:24:23,799 --> 00:24:26,640
less compelling of a character, right, You don't really, He's

483
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:27,400
just kind of an a whole.

484
00:24:27,519 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 5: So yeah.

485
00:24:28,759 --> 00:24:31,599
Speaker 1: I also just feel like whenever there's a relatively like

486
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,119
weaker or slightly worse villain, people hate on the entirety

487
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,519
of the arc. They do that with Drum Island because

488
00:24:38,519 --> 00:24:41,319
of Woppole, They do that with Bartier because of Don Krieg,

489
00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:43,039
and they do that with fish Ben Island because of

490
00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:46,680
Hody Jones. But I think all these arcs, while I

491
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,920
agree that the villain might not be the best, Drum

492
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,599
Island has some amazing and heartfelt moments. It does Bartier

493
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,039
think of Zorol versus me Hawk and the oath that

494
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,960
Zorrel puts to Loofy and Loufy's like kind of fight

495
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,559
without fear, and like it's like a Soanji's backstory and

496
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,160
him being inspired and like the relationship between him and

497
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,039
zeph There's so much that goes in Broughty, and I

498
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,279
just don't want people to shut down arcs because they

499
00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:13,319
don't like Don Creek. It's like, there's so much more

500
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,240
to it, and I know it's not doing that. I'm

501
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,799
more just saying that in general, same with Loofy carrying

502
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,119
Gnami and Soanjy in his mouth and on his back

503
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,079
while climbing a ten thousand or a thousand foot straight

504
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,720
up cliff in the blizzard while it's frostbite in fucking

505
00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:31,759
flip flops and oh my god, Like there's so many

506
00:25:32,079 --> 00:25:34,680
moments that make one piece what it is, and they're like,

507
00:25:34,759 --> 00:25:37,480
but wopple bed therefore arc bed. It's like, no, this

508
00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:38,599
arc is fucking amazing.

509
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,759
Speaker 2: I'll throw another defense in there for Ody Jones. Right,

510
00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:49,359
Ody Jones is bad, but he's no vander Decker, right, Like, but.

511
00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: They're both in the same arc, Jordan, they're both in

512
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:52,359
the mark.

513
00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:55,079
Speaker 2: But you know, you know, if you had to choose

514
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,640
one right Decker like, well, he was obsessed with Cheerosi,

515
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,960
which I can't blame him, but like he went too

516
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:01,759
far right, So.

517
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,319
Speaker 1: I think Hody Jones serves his purpose. And the fact

518
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,920
that like Lufi got the flex and show all his

519
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,640
like coop power ups and same with the crew while

520
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,279
at the same time kind of like how do I

521
00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:17,559
say this? It's like we got to see their flexes

522
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,240
right after a time skip, but also getting the lower

523
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,799
of Fishman Island and other things within the One Piece world,

524
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:26,000
and like Poseidon said, the relationship with like fish men's

525
00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:28,680
and humans, we get all that and that's all good,

526
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,880
and Hody Jones doesn't need to be directly connected while

527
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,359
he is. As Jordan mentioned, I do think even in

528
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,839
our society today, it's like it's crazy how racism and

529
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,400
hatred and whatever it may be can be passed down

530
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,920
from generation to generation with people that never really like

531
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,799
aren't going to experience it the same as Arlong did

532
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,000
right like no, like Hody didn't really have interactions with

533
00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:58,440
people or negative interactions, but because of how he was raised,

534
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,799
he grew up with in his heart right and then

535
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,960
he is now spreading it. I think it just he

536
00:27:05,079 --> 00:27:08,480
does a great job with that. I don't see that

537
00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:10,519
from a lot of other villains in One Piece that

538
00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:12,880
are great for other reasons. Just because he's weak doesn't

539
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,200
necessarily mean he's bad. He was a bad villain, but

540
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,960
I feel like he was meant to be bad, if

541
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,279
that makes sense, or maybe I'm missing soda Glazer, dude,

542
00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:25,400
I fucking glaze. I'm like, this is bad because he

543
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,119
wanted it to be.

544
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:33,279
Speaker 3: I think I'm more so like comparing I guess I guess. Yeah,

545
00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:37,039
it came to Crocodile and do Flamingo, and like all

546
00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:40,319
these other villains feel like they have like a plan

547
00:27:40,519 --> 00:27:43,920
and they're calculated and everything like that. So when we

548
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,920
got when I got to Hodi, I was just like, oh, okay,

549
00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:50,680
it's just a guy who hates humans, you know, It's

550
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,000
not really much more than that, which is why I

551
00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:55,079
was just kind of like, Eh, I'm not I'm not

552
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,440
the hugest fan of Hodi. I think though the backstory

553
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:05,519
with like the other fishmen made it make sense, I suppose.

554
00:28:05,839 --> 00:28:08,720
But I think one of my actual favorite characters that

555
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,039
like new characters from this arc is actually Fisher Tiger.

556
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,319
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

557
00:28:14,079 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: I think he is such a great character and it

558
00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:21,720
made me. I think the only time I cried during

559
00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:25,720
this arc was when he died and he was telling

560
00:28:25,759 --> 00:28:29,720
all his crew please do not like tell anybody how

561
00:28:29,759 --> 00:28:33,359
I died. The hatred ends with our generation.

562
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's such a contrast to Hodie. Like, dude, he

563
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,279
still hated humans, but he didn't want others to hate

564
00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:43,480
humans for how he died, which is crazy.

565
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: Yesh.

566
00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:49,559
Speaker 1: So Fish Tiger is your favor, that's great.

567
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,599
Speaker 3: I think he's a great character and that was the

568
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,079
only time I cried during this arc was during that

569
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,920
episode where he did get I believe he did get

570
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:04,279
shot right when Yeah, and you.

571
00:29:04,359 --> 00:29:08,559
Speaker 2: Refuse the blood transfusion, right, which, uh yeah, which is

572
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,680
huge for you know that that tradition kind of got

573
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,119
passed along and became a bit of a taboo, right. Yeah.

574
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,839
It was so symbolic whenever Jim Bay uh you know,

575
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,400
let his blood be transfused into loofy. Right. So, along

576
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,319
with some silly moments like like Sonji needing blood transfusions lately,

577
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,279
it was a lot of blood.

578
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: Can I say something here real quick, guys. I feel

579
00:29:35,079 --> 00:29:38,119
like when I first watched this arc, I had a

580
00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:40,759
similar opinion to Poseidon, and so does so many people.

581
00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:44,079
But as one past Blazers, we need to like. The

582
00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:47,359
more I talk about it on podcasts, the more I realize,

583
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,680
like or maybe I convinced myself that all these characters

584
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,920
are good. Someone in chat has said something, Pokin, I

585
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,480
gotta read this. The drugs used to get more power

586
00:29:56,799 --> 00:30:00,160
was cool to see the short that shortcuts don't give results.

587
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:04,440
I just feel like everything about Holy's character is bad,

588
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:07,400
like the shortcuts, right.

589
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:10,319
Speaker 2: I think he's unlikable. I don't think he's saying.

590
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,519
Speaker 1: Unlikable and there's like these negative aspects of him as

591
00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:16,680
a person, and I feel like that almost makes him

592
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,880
a good character to get shipped on by Loofy. I'm dude,

593
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,279
I'm Hoy Jones top tiers.

594
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: It's literally just the embodiment of hate.

595
00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, in person, he wasn't. It's crazy that it was

596
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,920
like hate passed down. It's nuts.

597
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:36,359
Speaker 2: He fits in thematically with what like kind of what

598
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,880
this arc needed, even if he's not, like, if you

599
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,079
take him in isolation, he's not gonna impress anybody, right, So.

600
00:30:42,759 --> 00:30:44,599
Speaker 1: So many negatives make a positive, you know.

601
00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly one thing I want to make sure we

602
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,079
touch on though I know I I think I brought

603
00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:52,640
it up at the end of the last podcast, but

604
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,440
I said, this is Poseidon's arc. Yes, what did you

605
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,599
think about? It is the arc of Poseidon.

606
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,799
Speaker 3: That reveal had me on, like my jaw on the

607
00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:07,759
floor because I did not expect so Okay, I was

608
00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:10,839
actually talking about this on a stream previously and somebody

609
00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:14,279
had told me I was like interpreting it wrong, and

610
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,680
I'm very, very convinced that it's not the case. So

611
00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:21,640
if SHEI ra Hoshi, the ancient weapon presided she is

612
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:28,799
y yeah, okay.

613
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,119
Speaker 2: Like you're pointing at each other, You're like, that's that's me.

614
00:31:28,319 --> 00:31:31,000
That's okay.

615
00:31:31,119 --> 00:31:35,039
Speaker 3: Because someone was saying that Sidon's actually the Dad, and

616
00:31:35,079 --> 00:31:39,720
I was just like no, because I understand Neptune. Yeah,

617
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,400
that's Neptune. So that's Roman. That's a romant thing. But

618
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,599
I from my understanding, so the ancient weapon that Robin

619
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,640
was reading about on the Pony Glyph was that there

620
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,880
is going to be a mermaid who is going to

621
00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:57,680
have the ability to communicate and control the c Kings

622
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:04,920
in the ocean, and they are dangerous, and that is

623
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,480
she or Hoshi, which she explains why she kind of

624
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:11,480
is a lot different than her siblings. She's one very big,

625
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:15,480
and two she's just she just has this mysterious power

626
00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:21,039
like you see in the flashbacks where I guess we

627
00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:25,319
can talk about this or O Tahime's assassination. Right, She's

628
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,640
crying and all of a sudden, the sea Kings just

629
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,519
kind of come over to Fishman Island and are ready

630
00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:35,240
to destroy the entire place. So I thought that was

631
00:32:35,319 --> 00:32:38,960
very interesting that this weapon isn't necessarily a physical thing.

632
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:44,000
It's in a person. It's a person and it's her.

633
00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:48,480
So I thought that was insane. I did not expect.

634
00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:51,680
I thought it would have been like a cannon or something,

635
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:56,279
or something buried under all the rubbule or something like that.

636
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,119
So I think it's super cool that it ended up

637
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,519
being a person.

638
00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, how she's such a cool character, right, it

639
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:04,960
is she.

640
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: Is and does a good job, because, like you, how

641
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,720
boring would it be if it was just like three

642
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:12,759
random weapons, like just oh, it's something married Yeah, like

643
00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:16,079
it's something lost in time and it was just an

644
00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:19,039
old machinery made because they had better science or something

645
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,000
like or or or or some old stuff that was

646
00:33:22,039 --> 00:33:26,400
lost and forgotten and kind of hidden because of the

647
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,400
void's entry or but even before it, Like I think

648
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,039
just having these twists that he always that it always

649
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:33,240
does is just so good.

650
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:39,279
Speaker 3: It's so so so good, which explains why her dad

651
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,880
like locked her up, which was like there was one

652
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,920
I forgot his name. I hated this carrier vander Decken. Yeah,

653
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,279
fuck that guy.

654
00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: I said, you might just like Hody, but at least

655
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,240
he's no Vanderdecken or whatever.

656
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Vancan was just weird because the pedal she is

657
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,400
she was. He was he was praying on Shira Ho sheis,

658
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,720
and she was like a child. She was like six

659
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,119
or whatever. She was very very young.

660
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. Like, until I was reviewing for

661
00:34:10,519 --> 00:34:12,159
this arc, I just like kind of blocked him out

662
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:12,639
of my memory.

663
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:15,519
Speaker 3: I heard her, honestly valid, Oh my god.

664
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 2: I remember, Like he's actually a thing, Like I just

665
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:18,800
forgot about him.

666
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know how Neptune didn't kill that dude.

667
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 3: I mean either was Like.

668
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,599
Speaker 1: I know he's older now, but he's pretty strong.

669
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:32,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Bender Decker Bender Deck's pretty strong as well,

670
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,000
right like, and he's uh able to be a threat

671
00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:39,159
from from a very far distance away. So we see

672
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:42,880
Shia Ho, she's u power kind of awakened and whatnot.

673
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:47,039
Because he throws that ancient arc Noah at you know,

674
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:51,519
at the island right or at her and uh, I

675
00:34:51,559 --> 00:34:54,800
don't remember all the specifics around that, but I guess.

676
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: That's my least favorite part about this arc is the

677
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,679
fact now thinking back, like Neptune and the all the brothers,

678
00:35:01,559 --> 00:35:06,239
the brothers let that fucking that creepy pedophile live. They

679
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,960
should have pulled up find him.

680
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 3: That's what I would have done. I would have I

681
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,280
would have killed him on the spot.

682
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,079
Speaker 2: But we needed him for the Noah. Joy Boy, lord drop, Okay,

683
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,400
are going to get Noah all the way there?

684
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? Can you remind me about so obviously we saw

685
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,639
the Noah. Do we know what was said on the

686
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,280
pony glyph in Fishman Island?

687
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 3: I I'm trying to remember mainly about the weapon, right

688
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,800
and then oh oh h joy Boy.

689
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's still a little foggy for me as well.

690
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:55,519
Speaker 3: Something about an apology, right, like something apologizing about something.

691
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he apologized on the pony glyph and whatnot.

692
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,960
But it had something to do with h Like he

693
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,239
had promised the princess that had previously had that Poseidon

694
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:11,000
power to do something with the arc. I don't, I

695
00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:13,360
don't quite remember the details, but like he hadn't he

696
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,039
wasn't quite able to fulfill that problem.

697
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,599
Speaker 1: Or like the promise of bringing them to the surface.

698
00:36:17,679 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 2: Or to the surface. Yeah, it was very similar in

699
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,920
parallel to the promise that Lufy makes to share Hoshi. Right.

700
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: So, do we have any theories about joy Boy or

701
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,000
the arc or something that Fishman Island may have triggered

702
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:30,280
in you?

703
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,519
Speaker 3: So from my understanding. I almost kind of see a

704
00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:38,880
parallel between Joey Boy and Loofy. The way I kind

705
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,639
of interpreted is like, is history repeating itself? Like is

706
00:36:42,679 --> 00:36:45,480
whatever happened during the Void century, is this just going

707
00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:49,079
to happen again within you know, the current time. In

708
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:52,199
one way, maybe that's kind of how I interpreted it.

709
00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:56,400
I'm not entirely sure though, but it was. I think

710
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,000
this was the first time they mentioned a character named

711
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:03,039
joy Boy. But yeah, all I know is that he's

712
00:37:03,079 --> 00:37:05,800
a guy, he was powerful, he did something during the

713
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,480
Boy's entry, and that's all we really know.

714
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:10,159
Speaker 1: I just thought we'd gotten something about joy Boy and

715
00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:13,079
Fishman in Skypia. But I think I was wrong. Who

716
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,440
signed the pond and glyph in Skypea Goldie Rogers.

717
00:37:16,119 --> 00:37:19,599
Speaker 2: Gee, Roger did it in Skypeia. But like the way

718
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:22,400
they kind of connect is uh, Robin said she read

719
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,360
on the one in Skypea that that there was an

720
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,960
ancient weapon in Fishman Island, right, So I was talking

721
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,239
about Sureshi and that it would be like a So

722
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,159
like Robin knew a little bit about that. I don't

723
00:37:33,159 --> 00:37:35,000
know if we knew as an audience.

724
00:37:34,639 --> 00:37:38,159
Speaker 1: But that's that's there. Being so many episodes, like how

725
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,840
I've watched the entire show, read the entire show, and

726
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,320
I'm still forgetting things. I'm like, did Goldie Rogers sign

727
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,320
that pony Glyph? Or was it gold was a joy boy?

728
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,079
Speaker 3: I know there's a connection, right, Yeah, I believe it

729
00:37:48,159 --> 00:37:51,800
was Goldie Roger if I'm remembering. They were wondering how

730
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,159
he even got up there?

731
00:37:56,159 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: Man could jump yet hops.

732
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: Also, I didn't make a correction. Goldie Roger never said

733
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,599
I'm going to be King of the Pirates. It was

734
00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:07,039
just when when Lufi said that it were minded greatly

735
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:10,840
of of Roger. Right, he never said I'm gonna be

736
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,320
King of the Pirates. That didn't exist until he made

737
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:13,760
it a thing.

738
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,559
Speaker 2: He set the precedent, right, So.

739
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,159
Speaker 1: What any cool moments, really cooler fun moments or badass

740
00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:26,119
moments about the actual fight toward the end.

741
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:28,039
Speaker 3: Of the arc, can I be honest?

742
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:28,519
Speaker 2: Yeah?

743
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 3: I did not like the fights in this arc.

744
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:35,599
Speaker 2: Damn, this is so it wasn't like Robins, this is

745
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,320
double Robin. Yeah.

746
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,519
Speaker 3: I mean I think it was like the fights felt

747
00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:43,599
a little weak because it just it didn't feel dynamic

748
00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:45,519
enough for me. I suppose I think it was more

749
00:38:45,519 --> 00:38:48,320
there to like. Its purpose was to show off the

750
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,320
powers of the straw hats. You see Robin kind of

751
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,679
have more mastery over her deble throuit sogy can just

752
00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:00,159
walk on air now, yeah, for whatever reason. And by

753
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:04,840
one of my favorite scenes and it's so stupid is

754
00:39:06,639 --> 00:39:10,280
kind of almost like that flashback to Sonjy where he

755
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,000
was during the two years and him just running away

756
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:18,159
from all all the guys on that one are gals

757
00:39:18,159 --> 00:39:23,480
sorry on that one island, and then it showed like

758
00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:26,480
a like a sequencer no, it was actually no, yeah,

759
00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:28,960
And then there was like the one brook sequence where

760
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,440
it was just dancing for however long that felt like forever.

761
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,480
But I thought that was funny.

762
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: Okay, but we got to see Frankie and a cyborg

763
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,079
see I'm about I'm about that ship.

764
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 3: I thought that was cool.

765
00:39:42,039 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: Oh what about Loofy's powers? Any cool Loofy powers? He liked.

766
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,199
Speaker 3: I like that he's being able to use his hockey

767
00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:53,039
more like. He looks like he's a lot more confident

768
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:54,880
in it's fighting. It's a lot more like because I

769
00:39:55,039 --> 00:39:58,159
would know that previously, right, Lufy was a type of

770
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,280
character that just was like, fuck it, We're just gonna

771
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,119
go in, but it almost seems like Loofy is a

772
00:40:03,159 --> 00:40:07,679
lot more calculated with how he attacks. But I don't

773
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,079
know if I have like any particular moments of like

774
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,599
this arc that I'm like, you know, that was awesome

775
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:13,639
with fighting, but.

776
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: I have a few.

777
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:18,039
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

778
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 2: The biggest one I think is the fact that there

779
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,599
was like one hundred thousand fishmen or whatever, and yeah, right.

780
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: The observation hockey on fifty thousand people is crazy, and

781
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,599
like the casual push aside of both Zoro and and Sundry,

782
00:40:33,639 --> 00:40:35,519
and then Zoro was like, well if he didn't do

783
00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:37,800
at least that he couldn't be my captain. I don't know.

784
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,400
I'm a sucker for some like like small like one

785
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,679
piece like lines like that. I liked that Loofy used

786
00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:48,960
a firefist attack after his brother underwater, which totally makes sense.

787
00:40:51,159 --> 00:40:54,079
There was that you get to see the actual umman

788
00:40:54,159 --> 00:40:57,119
hockey on his like gear three attacks. There's so many

789
00:40:57,159 --> 00:40:59,519
little things that I just appreciate. I like this arc.

790
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,960
I like it. I like it.

791
00:41:04,639 --> 00:41:06,199
Speaker 2: I liked the argument he had with Jim Bay a

792
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,840
little bit, like I remember him saying, oh, you know,

793
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,880
I don't want to be a hero, right, Heroes would

794
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,400
share their meat. I want all the meat.

795
00:41:12,559 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: But like that, that's so good.

796
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 2: Jis explained more about Loofy, right, we could understand his

797
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,920
philosophy where his head's at. He's not a hero, right,

798
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,159
He's just him.

799
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: So I mean that also adds to Poseidon's thoughts on

800
00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:27,239
the arc, and like the relations between fish men and humans,

801
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:31,280
Jim Bay wanted Loofy to be a symbol that humans

802
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,800
are okay, humans can be heroes and Lufy's like, no,

803
00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:38,800
fuck that not because not because I'm not a good person,

804
00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:41,760
but I don't want to be a hero. I'm a pirate.

805
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,639
Heroes share their meat. I want all the meat. And

806
00:41:44,679 --> 00:41:47,760
it was hilarious, shows you how Loofy is like Jordan's said.

807
00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:50,400
But at the same time, Jim Bay's like, you know what,

808
00:41:50,519 --> 00:41:52,360
that's still okay because at the end of the day,

809
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,679
they'll see you. They'll still see you as a savior.

810
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,360
As long as I play things right. He's gonna save

811
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,400
the island the way the same way he says people

812
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,239
in Alabasta. He saved people in every arc, or in

813
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,079
so many arcs.

814
00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 3: Can I mention something I know it's a little off topic,

815
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,079
go for it? Can I mention? There's this one character

816
00:42:10,159 --> 00:42:13,760
I absolutely, absolutely.

817
00:42:13,199 --> 00:42:14,639
Speaker 2: You love you're talking about Cariboo.

818
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 3: This is I ain't why did it? They just kill him?

819
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: I swear he's back at the end of her maga

820
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:26,519
again too.

821
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 3: No tell me you're lying, because I would. I'm hoping.

822
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:32,559
I was like, oh my god, I hope he dies.

823
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 1: You can't get rid of.

824
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 2: He's gonna hate it when Cariboo joins the straw Hats.

825
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:40,960
To stand out, Jim bays, I.

826
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,639
Speaker 1: Would ionically rather Cariboo join the straw Hat than some

827
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,000
characters that people want to join the straw Hats, which

828
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,920
I can't I guess I can't say because they're spoilers.

829
00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:49,599
But you know, some of them.

830
00:42:49,519 --> 00:42:51,159
Speaker 2: Have such a tragic character.

831
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:55,599
Speaker 1: Dude, imagine a TSN turning point. Imagine where you get

832
00:42:55,639 --> 00:43:00,119
a Caribou redemption arc or he just continues to be.

833
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,519
Speaker 2: I don't know, put yourself in his shoes, right, like

834
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:10,119
put yourself in his shoes. This man jumps the straw Hats, valorous, courageous,

835
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:12,480
like he is willing to take them on, right. He

836
00:43:12,559 --> 00:43:15,000
jumps forward, leading the charge and then move move, you know,

837
00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:19,719
throw back to Arlong Park gets scared, runs away. He's stranded.

838
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,000
It's just him versus all the straw hats, right, so

839
00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:24,400
he has to go low key and then he has

840
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,559
to see the ship, his pirate ship with his brother.

841
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,360
It just gets grabbed by a crack and destroyed. They all,

842
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,440
I'm pretty sure they're all dead, like this man went through.

843
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:32,599
Speaker 3: It, right.

844
00:43:32,639 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: This was a crazy art for Cariboo.

845
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 1: He has the next cover story and it's low key

846
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:44,199
Redemption Act. There's no way, my boy, my goats. I

847
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:51,760
don't know. Oh my god.

848
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,079
Speaker 2: I get mad when people mess with Shira Hoshi. I

849
00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:56,519
wish he didn't do that. But like, aside from that.

850
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,079
Speaker 1: You know what, I get it. Beside it, obviously, there's

851
00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:01,760
the moment in Fishine Island where he just like absorbs

852
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,480
a bunch of fish mermaids just to sell them. He's

853
00:44:05,519 --> 00:44:11,239
a piece of ship. Yeah he's a villain, but oh sorry, ahead,

854
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,920
nothing better than a villain that uh somehow has a

855
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:14,559
redemption arc.

856
00:44:14,679 --> 00:44:18,159
Speaker 3: I don't know, I you know, I I honestly hope so,

857
00:44:18,199 --> 00:44:22,599
because I absolutely hate him right now, I think we

858
00:44:22,639 --> 00:44:28,239
should talk about we did get some up like updates

859
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,840
about what the heck's been going on in the world.

860
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:35,199
As outside of Fishman Island, we do find out that

861
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,079
a Kaiu is now the Fleet Admiral of the Marines

862
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,199
and al Kig and him were fighting over the position,

863
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:47,519
and al Kig ended up losing and Alkigi leaves the Marines.

864
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 4: Yeahane, it was crazy, Yeah, yeah, and it makes me

865
00:44:57,039 --> 00:45:00,679
sad because I think between both of those characters, I

866
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,599
think Alkigi would be a better leader.

867
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,159
Speaker 3: Is just a you know at least. But the way

868
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,400
I see Alkig, right, he's kind of like in that

869
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,960
gray zone where he almost kind of doesn't see like

870
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,039
privates is that bad as opposed to kin He's like

871
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:18,239
pirates are all bad because you see him even let

872
00:45:18,599 --> 00:45:21,599
let Robin go when she was a child. He let

873
00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:22,000
her go.

874
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: I feel like he let her live. Yeah, it's true.

875
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:30,159
Al Kanu or yeah, did I say his name different

876
00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:30,599
every time?

877
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,599
Speaker 3: I think it's I don't know, it's one of those two.

878
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,599
Speaker 1: She's like absolute justice, absolute Marine justice. Anyone that opposes

879
00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:41,199
the Marines is bad, and I will do anything and

880
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,639
sacrifice anything to accomplish the goals of the Marines in

881
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:49,119
the world government. While like Alkigi is more of a

882
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:53,079
actual person with like varying beliefs and like we'll have

883
00:45:53,199 --> 00:45:56,800
some gray area and see people as people and not

884
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,559
as you're a pirate. You're bad. The world government hates,

885
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:01,960
so you're bad. And like he kind of I feel

886
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,400
like he's so powerful and so chill and so lazy

887
00:46:04,599 --> 00:46:07,079
that he kind of just like does what he wants

888
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,280
while also doing his job.

889
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:11,599
Speaker 5: I don't know.

890
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: They're both good characters in different ways. Obviously, I would

891
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,719
have preferred al Kigi to be to have one as

892
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,360
well and been the leader. I think that'd been cool.

893
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:23,920
But it's also cool to see what he does now.

894
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:24,199
Speaker 2: Right.

895
00:46:25,639 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, we also did get an update, so black Beard

896
00:46:29,519 --> 00:46:33,159
does become an emperor now he does fill in that spot. Yeah,

897
00:46:33,199 --> 00:46:36,920
white Beard and he is now him and his crew

898
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,280
have been hunting Devil for users, right, They're trying to

899
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,000
take their powers for themselves, and I think that's very

900
00:46:44,119 --> 00:46:52,719
very dangerous. That's really scary. So yeah, black Beard's a mess.

901
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,199
He is, and it's not I don't it didn't. I

902
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,360
don't know how he takes the Devil for powers, and

903
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,000
I'm not supposed to know. Right up until this point,

904
00:47:02,519 --> 00:47:03,679
I don't know how he does it.

905
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: I do, I don't think, I don't think. I don't

906
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,679
think it's said up to this point, right.

907
00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:09,599
Speaker 1: There's so many things that you've talked about in the

908
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:11,760
theorized and I'm just like, I don't know either.

909
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I don't think at this point we would

910
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:16,719
we would know, right.

911
00:47:17,199 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: And we're what you're what ups are you on? In?

912
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 2: Me? Yeah?

913
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: In Punk Hazard? Where are you at?

914
00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: Now?

915
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: Oh?

916
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 3: I just got to I just finished episode six to.

917
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: One, six o one. You're still yeah, what percent? Are

918
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,400
you fifty percent? Are we twelve hundred? Yet we're twelve something, right?

919
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,639
I know we were in the eleven hundreds for sure.

920
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,119
You might be over the fifty percent mark.

921
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 3: I know that's crazy. I'm actually getting through Punk Hazard

922
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,480
pretty uh. I mean, we'll talk about it next episode,

923
00:47:44,519 --> 00:47:47,719
I'm sure, helly, But I will say I actually really

924
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,880
really enjoyed Punk Haszard. I think Punk Hazard's a good arc,

925
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:52,960
and I'm excited to talk about it.

926
00:47:53,159 --> 00:47:55,119
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, she's excited.

927
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: We're at one and ninety roughly or elevens Oh no,

928
00:47:59,519 --> 00:48:02,199
it was after eleven seventy four. See, you're over the

929
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,320
halfway point for sure, which is kind of like it's

930
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,000
crazy that, oh my god, you're so far. But at

931
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,119
the same time, It's like we've been doing this podcast

932
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:11,719
for a long time. You've watched six hundred episodes of

933
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,559
anime and we're talking about, oh, she's above the fifty

934
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:18,199
percent park, Like what is truly that? Like Iceberg meme,

935
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,559
where like there's always so much more underneath the surf

936
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:22,840
below sea level.

937
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,079
Speaker 3: My goal for twenty twenty six is to get caught

938
00:48:26,159 --> 00:48:26,760
up with one Piece.

939
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

940
00:48:27,159 --> 00:48:30,199
Speaker 3: It is my goal, and I'm really looking forward to

941
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,639
it because most of my friends that I have, like

942
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,519
my IRL friend group, they are all caught up in

943
00:48:35,559 --> 00:48:37,679
one Piece. I am like one of the only people

944
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,039
in my friend group that aren't there yet. So every

945
00:48:40,039 --> 00:48:42,679
time I talk to them, they're like, side are you?

946
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,679
Are you getting through it? We really really want to

947
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,519
talk to you about this, And I'm just like, don't

948
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:49,360
say anything yet. I am getting through it.

949
00:48:50,679 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: That's the hardy part of the better. I'm yeah, you're

950
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,800
not caught up, Jordan, where are you?

951
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: It's been a couple of years for me, Like I

952
00:48:57,679 --> 00:49:02,360
was midway through uh An our Cold Eggheads whenever I

953
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,800
finish reading, but I need to go back and like

954
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,920
reread in its entirety because that was in week the week.

955
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:09,199
Speaker 1: I have a thought process. If you're if the next

956
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,480
arc after the arc you're on isn't done yet, you

957
00:49:11,639 --> 00:49:13,800
actually really haven't missed much, because like.

958
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,039
Speaker 2: I like the bit rebinge through like an arc in

959
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:19,920
its entirety there after because then it like it sticks better,

960
00:49:20,159 --> 00:49:21,960
Like I feel like I struggled going week the weeks.

961
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: I mean not to be a spoil but we spent

962
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,880
a whole year of reading the manga without really seeing

963
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:31,639
Loofy because of a flashback, right, a singular flashback could

964
00:49:31,639 --> 00:49:33,199
take months.

965
00:49:33,199 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 2: So you like that fish was going right, the next.

966
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 1: Arc after the one you're on, Jordan like isn't done yet,

967
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,400
so you really haven't missed that much.

968
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,559
Speaker 2: Let's go. That's why I'm not behind behind, but I

969
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,039
am behind right, So I'll catch up one day. We'll

970
00:49:51,039 --> 00:49:53,199
see for the podcast.

971
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:54,599
Speaker 1: Are they longer?

972
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

973
00:49:55,039 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: Are your friends manger readers or anime only?

974
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 3: They're actually both.

975
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:00,639
Speaker 2: Let's go culture.

976
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 3: I think they're caught up with the manga now, but

977
00:50:03,039 --> 00:50:05,159
they watch the anime as the anime comes out.

978
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: Well, they're they're bigger fans than us.

979
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, that's all the yup about. I cannot be

980
00:50:12,519 --> 00:50:14,280
in the same room as them because I don't want

981
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:15,400
to hear what they're talking.

982
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: I'll watch like some newer episodes because I hear it

983
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,480
has like really good animation or something, so like i'll

984
00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:22,800
go watch bits and pieces and stuff. But but yeah,

985
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,519
I haven't kept up with the anime since uh dress

986
00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:27,800
Rosa right as far as like every episode.

987
00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I'm probably there with you, Jordan, like

988
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,679
I watched a good amount on stream and stuff, but

989
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,119
like I read the manga religiously, I'll fall behind like

990
00:50:35,199 --> 00:50:37,760
four or five chapters, maybe six chapters max. But then

991
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,280
like if an episode comes out every now and then,

992
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,760
I'll just watch it if I hear like hype about it,

993
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,039
even though I haven't watched the last twenty just because

994
00:50:45,039 --> 00:50:46,840
I know I've read the manga. I know what's happening.

995
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:50,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, the arcs are so long and

996
00:50:50,159 --> 00:50:52,719
like they're so but they're still so put together. Well

997
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,159
yeah that like I just have to like reread it

998
00:50:55,199 --> 00:50:58,880
there after, Like I said, even rereading arcs for this podcast, right, like,

999
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,320
I feel like I noticed so many things where there's

1000
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,440
like a vibe to each arc right where it's just

1001
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,280
it's telling the the ebb and flow of like a

1002
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,360
singular island story, and I don't know, experiencing get together

1003
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,800
is better than week the week in my opinion.

1004
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: We need to get beside the whole cake asap so

1005
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,039
that I could finish my wad phone.

1006
00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:24,119
Speaker 3: We did get introduced to the Big Mom Pirates, which

1007
00:51:24,159 --> 00:51:27,400
I think is very very important tribute.

1008
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: They do gangsters.

1009
00:51:31,639 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 3: They show up to part of her crew or two

1010
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,320
of her crew show up to to fish one island

1011
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,480
because they make the best candy and they don't have

1012
00:51:40,519 --> 00:51:44,639
the candy. So Lufi is on the the phone with

1013
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:51,280
them male phone forget the name already, and then and goes, yeah,

1014
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:51,599
I ate.

1015
00:51:51,599 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: The candy, takes the blame and tells her.

1016
00:51:54,679 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 3: He takes the blame and tells her off and almost

1017
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,599
wages basically wages war against her and her crew.

1018
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: It's what he do.

1019
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 3: And uh threatens to take over her spot as emperor.

1020
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,119
So that's really scary, and uh, I think that's our

1021
00:52:07,159 --> 00:52:09,719
first interaction with Big Mom, right yeah.

1022
00:52:09,679 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we see through that like kind of some

1023
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,360
of the different UH, I guess world building, you'd you'd

1024
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,280
call it as far as like out how those power

1025
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:24,280
gaps are big filled because I think fisherman island used

1026
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:25,920
to be under white Beard, right, and he didn't demand

1027
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,079
tribute or anything. And then we see that after he's gone,

1028
00:52:29,159 --> 00:52:31,719
like those gaps are being filled in elsewhere, be black

1029
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,119
Beard or a Big Mom in this case, right, and

1030
00:52:34,159 --> 00:52:37,159
she's like demanding they pay a certain amount every every

1031
00:52:37,199 --> 00:52:41,559
so often, right for her protection so that her flag's

1032
00:52:41,559 --> 00:52:42,679
there on the island. Right.

1033
00:52:43,559 --> 00:52:46,199
Speaker 1: Some people, when we talk about arcs and like say

1034
00:52:46,199 --> 00:52:48,079
the arc names used to get upset at us, like

1035
00:52:48,159 --> 00:52:51,880
not drink Poseidon's Watch Through, but drink Animax Watch Through.

1036
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,119
They would be like, stop talking about Wana or Whole Cake.

1037
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,239
I'm like, dude, what I watched this for the first time,

1038
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,400
and when everyone else watched and read this for this time,

1039
00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:02,679
we knew what what what arcs were gonna be in

1040
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,119
the New World before they even happen. We're all theorizing.

1041
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,599
Of course, at some point we're going to Elbath because

1042
00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:09,760
USAF wants to go to Elbath. Of course, at some

1043
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,119
point we're going to Whole Cake and or some interaction

1044
00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:15,079
with Big Mom. Because of what happened on Fishmn Island.

1045
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,519
We know that Wana is gonna happen at some point.

1046
00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:19,679
It's been mentioned a few times by now like and

1047
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:20,280
we know that.

1048
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I don't, but the arc tells you much either,

1049
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,039
like yes, I don't know, Like it doesn't we do anything.

1050
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: For thriller Bark. We know that Reuma came from the

1051
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,320
land of Wana in the New World, like it's gonna happen,

1052
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,360
and people used to get pissed. I'm like, it's fine.

1053
00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 3: It's fine also because I think I mentioned this all

1054
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,039
the time on this podcast, But I do actively play

1055
00:53:44,159 --> 00:53:46,559
the card game. I go to locals like four times

1056
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:49,280
a week. I have a big tournament coming up. Like

1057
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,440
I I play the card game. I have like every

1058
00:53:52,519 --> 00:53:56,239
single meta deck built. I obviously there's gonna be cards

1059
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,880
in there. Then I'm just like, why does it say

1060
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,559
that at the bottom of the are Like what is

1061
00:54:02,599 --> 00:54:05,480
this you know scene? You know, stuff like that. So

1062
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,360
I do have and I do kind of know, right

1063
00:54:09,519 --> 00:54:11,920
the timeline of what arcs are going to be coming up,

1064
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,079
kind of like what to expect character wise, because like

1065
00:54:15,199 --> 00:54:17,039
I know that Do Flamingo is going to be the

1066
00:54:17,039 --> 00:54:19,480
main villain and dresser Rosa, Like that's not a secret

1067
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,360
to me. For me, I think what's important, right is

1068
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,199
I guess the journey from to get there, yeap. So

1069
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,079
I mean I already knew Ace was going to die, like,

1070
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,519
but I didn't know how he was going to die.

1071
00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:32,960
I didn't know, you know, the events leading up to it.

1072
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,039
And I think that's the most important part. So I mean,

1073
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:38,320
I also understand right where people get upset at the

1074
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,000
same time, it's like you can't avoid, especially with one Piece.

1075
00:54:41,039 --> 00:54:43,199
It's so popular, you can't avoid every single day.

1076
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been out for twenty five years. It's about

1077
00:54:47,199 --> 00:54:49,119
the journey. You guys both said it so perfectly.

1078
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 2: These AI algorithms get us figured out way too quickly, Okay,

1079
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,239
I want to I want to say that, so like

1080
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,280
I get it. I've been in beside shoes. I will

1081
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,239
like every picture of Nico Robin I see, and then

1082
00:54:58,519 --> 00:55:00,440
it's gonna tell me more. It's gonna show me all right,

1083
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,000
so it knows I like Nico Robbins.

1084
00:55:02,039 --> 00:55:05,039
Speaker 1: The algorithm is so strong that I literally have the

1085
00:55:05,119 --> 00:55:08,760
keywords one piece, one Piece, chapter, I all these keywords

1086
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,599
on on X like muted, and I like one picture

1087
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:14,159
of Robin and it's my entire feed. I'm like, I

1088
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,199
have the words muted, but they'll say Nico Robin and

1089
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,760
not use the word one piece, and then somehow things

1090
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,079
in the newest chapter are still being shown on my

1091
00:55:24,159 --> 00:55:26,079
timeline because they don't use the word one piece in

1092
00:55:26,119 --> 00:55:28,920
the fucking tweet. But do I have to do? I

1093
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,960
have to x out every character as well.

1094
00:55:31,039 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 2: No, no, And you're not even allowed to ban the

1095
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,400
word Nico Robin because that's just the sin, right, that is.

1096
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 3: Against the law.

1097
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: I would rather get spoiled than not have around my timeline.

1098
00:55:40,679 --> 00:55:44,639
Speaker 2: Real it gets along at least fourteenth and the open Oceans.

1099
00:55:44,679 --> 00:55:46,239
It's it's it's real.

1100
00:55:46,039 --> 00:55:48,519
Speaker 1: Stuff, all right, guys. Let's have some final thoughts on

1101
00:55:48,599 --> 00:55:51,639
Fishman Island and Sabad or the return to Sabo.

1102
00:55:53,559 --> 00:55:55,679
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think talking about it made me like the

1103
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,639
arc a little more, but I will say I think

1104
00:55:57,639 --> 00:55:58,440
it is ranked.

1105
00:55:58,199 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: A little bit lower.

1106
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 3: His favorite arcs. But I do think it was a

1107
00:56:04,039 --> 00:56:07,800
very very important arc to watch, and I'm actually really

1108
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:12,599
looking forward to continuing my journey. I guess next time

1109
00:56:12,639 --> 00:56:15,440
we talk we'll talk about Punk, Castre and Avoid. I really,

1110
00:56:15,639 --> 00:56:17,880
I'm telling you right now, I'm halfway done and I

1111
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:18,159
love the.

1112
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 2: Arc, so hell yeah, love to hear it.

1113
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,599
Speaker 1: I will say, Yeah, the more you talk about one Piece,

1114
00:56:22,599 --> 00:56:24,920
the more you realize that, wow, this arc was bad,

1115
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,920
but it was it was bad in comparison to all

1116
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,440
the S tier arcs that One Piece has, when in

1117
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,280
reality it's like, oh, that was like a B that

1118
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,800
was like a B arc or like a C plus arc.

1119
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,039
It's like that was a very good arc. It's just

1120
00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:40,159
we're comparing it to and his Lobby Lobby and water.

1121
00:56:40,119 --> 00:56:43,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Alabasta for s Tiers.

1122
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,599
Speaker 1: And r Along Park and like all these S tier arcs,

1123
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,400
and it's like, yeah, that was that was just not

1124
00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:50,320
as good because we didn't like the villain. But at

1125
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,280
the end of the day, one Piece is peak.

1126
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 2: Speaking of peaks, like I'm still not over how Loofy

1127
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,519
and Shira Hoshi all right or how they met this

1128
00:57:01,639 --> 00:57:05,199
art went wild, all right, fling on coral and just

1129
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,679
like bouncing like a trampoline. He had no idea, right,

1130
00:57:08,039 --> 00:57:10,880
So that that was the moment that like stuck with

1131
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:11,639
my memory.

1132
00:57:11,599 --> 00:57:13,599
Speaker 1: Zorro has nothing on her.

1133
00:57:14,519 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

1134
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:22,039
Speaker 1: And on that note, I hope you guys enjoyed. Remember

1135
00:57:22,119 --> 00:57:26,119
to follow the One Piece version on on Spotify and

1136
00:57:26,159 --> 00:57:28,599
other platforms. Check out The Boys the Anime Dude on

1137
00:57:28,639 --> 00:57:32,719
Twitch and Presidon Mythos on all the platforms. I'm live

1138
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,800
on Kick as well these days. I just got partnered,

1139
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,679
so check me out on Kick, drop me off, follow,

1140
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,199
I love you guys, shimpock you, and I'll see you

1141
00:57:39,239 --> 00:57:40,159
all next time.

1142
00:57:41,519 --> 00:57:43,039
Speaker 2: Bye bye,