Speaker 1: Chris Crocketber Jesse Kelly biss is the Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 1: Continuing on you had Texas Governor Greg Abbott saying that
Speaker 1: declaring Care Council American Islamic Relations as a terror organization
Speaker 1: as well as the Mother Muslim Brotherhood, and he's right
Speaker 1: on both. But I wanted to also talk about the
Speaker 1: President Trump that he also signed an executive order this
Speaker 1: afternoon designating the Muslim Brotherhood as a foreign terrorist organization,
Speaker 1: and he's exactly correct. Let me share this with you.
Speaker 1: Got some analysis from The Free Press, among other publications.
Speaker 1: The Free published a story this summer on how the
Speaker 1: Muslim Brotherhood is capturing Europe. They cited a leaked report
Speaker 1: by the French Ministry of the Interior which concluded the
Speaker 1: Brotherhood strategy is to install a form of ideological hegemony
Speaker 1: by infiltrating civil society under the guise of religious and
Speaker 1: educational activities. The Institute for the Study of Global Anti
Speaker 1: Semitism Policy says the Muslim Brotherhood appears to be the
Speaker 1: intellectual inspiration behind all Islamist groups and the ghee hottest
Speaker 1: offshoots that operate today, such as Isis, al Qaida and Hamas.
Speaker 1: The institute released another report in November, saying, calling it
Speaker 1: the quote the Muslim Brotherhood strategy entryism, strategic entryism into
Speaker 1: the United States. And this is going to sound exactly
Speaker 1: like I told you that, Hamas, I'm sorry that the
Speaker 1: Holyland Foundation the largest ever terrorism fundraising case in US
Speaker 1: history that happened in Dellasforth, Texas in eight nine, two
Speaker 1: thousand and two thousand and nine, where an unindoicted co
Speaker 1: conspirator in that case is Care, the consul of American
Speaker 1: Islamic Relations. Remember I told you that the FBI DLJ
Speaker 1: bugged a room, a hotel room in Boston where Care
Speaker 1: meet met with Holyland Foundation people, and Care was talking
Speaker 1: about we need to waste a jihad, a non balance
Speaker 1: jihad in America, use its laws, use its freedom, to
Speaker 1: use the press, to turn this country against itself in
Speaker 1: the name of Islam, of radical Islam. Well, look at
Speaker 1: this from the study of Global Anti Semitism and Policy
Speaker 1: entitled this study entitled the Muslim Brotherhood Strategy excuse me,
Speaker 1: Strategic Entryism into the United States. Quote. This comprehensive study
Speaker 1: exposes and examines the Muslim Brotherhood's comprehensive multi generational strategic
Speaker 1: campaign to transform Western society, especially in the United States,
Speaker 1: from within through what is known through its own i
Speaker 1: should say, through its own internal documents that describe a
Speaker 1: civilizational struggle jihad. Unlike conventional terrorist threats, this strategy exploits
Speaker 1: democratic freedoms and institutions to advance fundamentally anti democratic objectives,
Speaker 1: representing a sophisticated form of non violent extremism targeting Western democracies.
Speaker 1: The think tank also added this the Brotherhood is a
Speaker 1: gateway to terrorism, infusing members with the religious doctrines and
Speaker 1: hatred that justify violence. The most determined of these members
Speaker 1: then form splinter groups or migrate individually to terrorist organization.
Speaker 1: This is it. This is how we save our country
Speaker 1: from Islamism and extremism from Islamists. And that's why Trump
Speaker 1: was right today this afternoon late to designate the Muslim
Speaker 1: Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. Let me share a little
Speaker 1: bit more. This is from the New York Post today
Speaker 1: reporting on this. They cite a chilling analysis from the
Speaker 1: Institute for the Global Study of Anti Semitism and Policy.
Speaker 1: They found the Muslim Brotherhood is half way through its
Speaker 1: plan to transform Western society from within quote. We are
Speaker 1: now fifty years into the Brotherhood's one hundred year planned
Speaker 1: to entrench themselves into key institutions, into the United States
Speaker 1: and other Western societies to undermine a destroyer of democracy.
Speaker 1: I told you this in the last hour. I'll say
Speaker 1: it again. Europe, I should say, France, Germany and Britain
Speaker 1: are gone. They will be Muslim states. They will be
Speaker 1: Muslim states. Do not believe me. Look at these statistics yourself,
Speaker 1: These humanist, secularist countries who are having one baby if
Speaker 1: you're lucky, per couple out of wedlock, most likely sadly,
Speaker 1: versus the Islamic people are having five babies. You already
Speaker 1: know this. No go zones, you already know Jews can't
Speaker 1: go in certain areas. They're harassed, beaten, god knows what
Speaker 1: because they've allowed, for example, Germany with Angela Merkel, allowed
Speaker 1: a million Syrian refugees to come into their country, and
Speaker 1: that the terror and the horror that has happened because
Speaker 1: of that is is completely overtly resounding. A lot of
Speaker 1: the German I heard earlier a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: or maybe last month, the German Christmas markets they have there.
Speaker 1: I believe they said they're going to shut them down
Speaker 1: this year because they cannot keep them open because too
Speaker 1: many radical Islamis will plow a car into the middle
Speaker 1: of those Christmas markets or shoot them up. Quote. This
Speaker 1: is not simply a political movement, the Institute for the
Speaker 1: Global Study of Global Anti Semitism and Policy side in
Speaker 1: its report last week. This is not simply a political movement,
Speaker 1: but a transnational ideological project that adapts itself to Western
Speaker 1: styles while working to undermine them. The Brotherhood has chanced
Speaker 1: a champion strict schurial law, pushed for a caliphate, which
Speaker 1: is a government rule by strict Islamic code or Sharia law,
Speaker 1: under which women's rights are typically severely restricted, while extreme
Speaker 1: forms of punishment abound as its overseers cracked down on
Speaker 1: personal freedoms. This is evil treated as cattle. They seek
Speaker 1: to turn us into another Islamic nations. Islamism is rules everything,
Speaker 1: and women are treated like cattle, and gays are thrown
Speaker 1: off for buildings or killed or stoned, and Jews are
Speaker 1: executed summarily, and people like you or me, perhaps as
Speaker 1: a Christian, we are forced to convert, or we're killed
Speaker 1: or enslaved globally, the Brotherhood is a gateway to terrorism,
Speaker 1: infusing the members with religious doctrines and hatred. That justified violence, says,
Speaker 1: the foundation of defense for democracies. So there you have it.
Speaker 1: So that's why Donald Trump did this, and that's why
Speaker 1: he's right to do it. The Muslim Brotherhood's motto, Allah
Speaker 1: is our objective, the Prophet is our leader, the Qoran
Speaker 1: is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the
Speaker 1: way of Allah as our highest hopes. Now, let me
Speaker 1: tell you one more thing. I could not believe this,
Speaker 1: but it is very true. I had a privilege, the
Speaker 1: privilege of interviewing a Jewish scholar who is an expert
Speaker 1: on the Holocaust and Islamism and the Holocaust and the
Speaker 1: Nazi Germany and everything in that area. And I learned
Speaker 1: a lot when when I talked to him, and after
Speaker 1: I talked to him. There was, first of all, the
Speaker 1: Muslim Brotherhood, the years that they began and were active.
Speaker 1: We're talking the nineteen forties, fifties and sixties and beyond.
Speaker 1: And one of the original people in the Muslim Brotherhood
Speaker 1: had a copy of Hitler's mind Kampf and was an admirer,
Speaker 1: a very deep admirer of Hitler, and in fact he
Speaker 1: helped in aiding there was a Muslim unit that went
Speaker 1: in and fought in Nazi Germany and hunted down and
Speaker 1: slaughtered Jews. There is no difference. This is evil, this
Speaker 1: is darkness. So they're not just going to come for Jews.
Speaker 1: They're going to come for every one of us, and
Speaker 1: they're going to make us submit. And thank god, we
Speaker 1: have a president who will stand up to this, and
Speaker 1: we have in Texas a governor who will stand up
Speaker 1: to this. This is extraordinarily important, and I just I
Speaker 1: can't emphasize it enough. We're going to talk to an
Speaker 1: expert on this who was actually a Muslim himself, doctor
Speaker 1: Zudi Jasser, from the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, coming
Speaker 1: up in about twenty three minutes. I can't wait to
Speaker 1: talk to him about that. Oh. One more thing that
Speaker 1: just broke out this afternoon. Ice is deporting another radical
Speaker 1: Islamis and he's being defended by care. I'm sure that
Speaker 1: surprises you. Marwan Marouf, director of public relations and fundraising
Speaker 1: for the Muslim American Society. This happens to be in
Speaker 1: Dallas Fort Worth, but and this is a front group
Speaker 1: for the Brotherhood, the Muslim American Society. He was heading
Speaker 1: up for Dallas Fort Worth and the Donald Trump administration
Speaker 1: cuffed him and stuffed him and is deporting him. He's
Speaker 1: been overstaying a visa for eleven years. He's literally heading
Speaker 1: up the Muslim American Society of Dallas forth hiding in
Speaker 1: playing sight as an illegal for over ten years, and
Speaker 1: he is literally in a group that is a front
Speaker 1: group for the Muslim Brotherhood. The consular American Islamic Relations
Speaker 1: stood up and defended him today in all of his
Speaker 1: links that he has to terrorists and such. His brother
Speaker 1: in law was convicted for doing business with Comas. Another
Speaker 1: in law was convicted of the Holyland Foundation trial that
Speaker 1: I told you about. The CARE Executive director for Texas
Speaker 1: called this man a pillar of the community. That is
Speaker 1: everything you need to know about the Muslim Brotherhood Care
Speaker 1: at all. Coming up next to all the latest the
Speaker 1: dances from the Sunday morning shows of the Democrats who
Speaker 1: came on that served our country at the time supposedly
Speaker 1: honorably now encouraging in its direction, I should say mutiny
Speaker 1: within our own military. They are dancing around trying to
Speaker 1: explain themselves and gaining their butts handed them to them
Speaker 1: by the leftist Sunday shows of all places. That's coming
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Speaker 1: kr Oka t A. LK. Well, they're doing the dance now.
Speaker 1: They're doing the dance because they with the Trump arrangement syndrome,
Speaker 1: decided to go nuts and literally lead troops to do mutiny. Basically,
Speaker 1: for example, as you know, in the the one minute,
Speaker 1: six second long gathering of different Democrats who've served in
Speaker 1: the military, CIA and such, the threats to our constitution,
Speaker 1: they said, aren't just coming from abroad, but right here
Speaker 1: at home. The threats to our constitution right here at home.
Speaker 1: You can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders. Well,
Speaker 1: when asked about but let's hear what Alyssa Slotkin, who
Speaker 1: was one of the people in there she's former CIA. Well,
Speaker 1: what illegal orders? Specifically, these are the leftist Sunday morning shows,
Speaker 1: by the way, asking who you are, let's talk right now.
Speaker 2: Do you believe President Trump has issued any illegal orders?
Speaker 3: To my knowledge, I am not aware of things that
Speaker 3: are illegal, but certainly.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait nothing. Did you just say he didn't
Speaker 1: do anything illegal.
Speaker 3: My knowledge, I am not aware of things that are illegal,
Speaker 3: but certainly there are some legal gymnastics that are going
Speaker 3: on with these Caribbean strikes and everything related to Venezuela.
Speaker 1: So you've told us the threats of the constitution. The
Speaker 1: constitution are coming from right here at home, and you
Speaker 1: can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders. But
Speaker 1: now you're telling us no illegal orders have been given.
Speaker 1: What it does.
Speaker 4: Imply that the president is having illegal orders, which you
Speaker 4: have not seen.
Speaker 3: I think for us, it was just a statement widely right,
Speaker 3: we say, very quickly and very to all the folks
Speaker 3: who come to us, this is the process. Go to
Speaker 3: your jag officer, asked them for explanation for.
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, did you hear in that one minute,
Speaker 1: six second video did you hear anything about go to
Speaker 1: your jag officer? Because I didn't hear anything. I just
Speaker 1: heard them say, you must refuse illegal orders. You can refuge,
Speaker 1: you refuse legal refuse legal orders. I didn't hear any
Speaker 1: of them say, you go to your jag officer.
Speaker 3: To all the folks who come to us, this is
Speaker 3: the process. Go to your jag officer, ask them for explanation,
Speaker 3: for top cover, for their view on things. We do
Speaker 3: that on a case by case basis, but we wanted
Speaker 3: to speak directly to the volumes of people who had
Speaker 3: come to us on.
Speaker 1: The volumes of people are everywhere. They're at my door too.
Speaker 1: How people can be given ilegal orders? Hew? Hew, they're everywhere.
Speaker 1: There's no one there. They just did this to undermine
Speaker 1: President Trump. I heard on Fox News this afternoon that
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice or whatever the military prosecutor are
Speaker 1: looking into Mark Kelly. They're invest getting him for what
Speaker 1: he said and did. And I think that's great. If
Speaker 1: he violated the law, he must be prosecuted. You do
Speaker 1: not encourage our true Ah Mark I center to remark, Caroly,
Speaker 1: I'm a hero. Look at me. I broke my arm,
Speaker 1: petty myself on the back. I'm a hero. You must
Speaker 1: refuse legal orders right here at home. Threats are coming
Speaker 1: from here we go. We have Jason Crow, who also
Speaker 1: served honorably in combat. Here's here he is trying to
Speaker 1: do his dance, explaining things away on the Sunday shows
Speaker 1: this weekend.
Speaker 4: We wanted to start a conversation and we did about
Speaker 4: the dangerous rhetoric this president is using and the threats
Speaker 4: that he's made to use our military in an unlawful way.
Speaker 4: Because well, send troops into Chicago, send troops into polling stations,
Speaker 4: kill terrorists, families, arrest and execute, arrest and execute members
Speaker 4: of Congress.
Speaker 1: He has not done those things, she said, even the
Speaker 1: leftist meet, he hasn't done those things. Absolute fools, dangerous fools.
Speaker 1: Here's Amy Klobachar, who always shakes when she talks. Next
Speaker 1: time you see Amy Klobachar speak, just like in this
Speaker 1: piece of audio I'm about to play for you. Look
Speaker 1: at her hair. It shakes. She's got a shaky problem.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but she's always been shaky,
Speaker 1: even since she was doing the debates in the Democrat
Speaker 1: nomination process for president. Here you go, I wonder, do
Speaker 1: you know what the specific illegal acts are that your
Speaker 1: Democratic colleagues were referring to there.
Speaker 5: Well, it's very clear in this code for the military
Speaker 5: that you cannot follow on lawful orders, and you know
Speaker 5: that would be I'll just use an example. Some of
Speaker 5: the judges have now found in certain cities that it
Speaker 5: is not legal to send in the National Guard. And
Speaker 5: those National Guard members have come home. Some of them
Speaker 5: are still there. But if they're a commander, where to
Speaker 5: tell him, hey, go out on the streets and do this,
Speaker 5: and that that's not following the order that is in law.
Speaker 5: So I just use that example.
Speaker 1: Use what example you just said. They were called in
Speaker 1: the troops. They were Illinois National Guardsmen, and there were
Speaker 1: Texas National Guardsmen that were called in. They were sitting
Speaker 1: there at Great Lagus Naval Base in the Chicagoland area,
Speaker 1: right on Lake Michigan in the north shore, and they
Speaker 1: weren't deployed because of this federal judge, this leftist federal
Speaker 1: judge said you can't deploy them. And Trump didn't disobey
Speaker 1: the order from the federal judge. Nobody was set in
Speaker 1: the streets and if they were like in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: it was lawful. And if the courts said you can't
Speaker 1: do that, the Trump administration sought judicial relief and got it.
Speaker 1: There is nothing there and they have no good explanation.
Speaker 1: That's why they sound like a fool. Let's hear what
Speaker 1: happened on CNN's Abbey Phillip. It's a wink in a
Speaker 1: nod and it's all meant to undermine the president of
Speaker 1: United States. The military does not have a right to.
Speaker 2: Under a second in this country. You do get to
Speaker 2: undermine the president of the if you if you are
Speaker 2: a member of Congress, you absolutely in this country have
Speaker 2: a free military commander.
Speaker 1: It's not Congress. It is Congress that is telling some
Speaker 1: congressmen and women that are telling the troops to disobey
Speaker 1: their commander in chief, which is highly illegal and it
Speaker 1: very well may be illegal. In fact, there is a
Speaker 1: I should have pulled it up where there's a buddy
Speaker 1: of mine who does the show, Eric Erickson, and he
Speaker 1: had a JAG officer call in and literally give the code,
Speaker 1: the US code for mutiny, and it literally reads what
Speaker 1: they did as mutiny by encouraging these soldiers to disobey,
Speaker 1: and mutiny is if convicted, punishab by up to death.
Speaker 1: That's just how it is. If you don't want that.
Speaker 1: If you think that's harsh, then don't freaking tell the
Speaker 1: troops to disobey their commander in chief when nothing, according
Speaker 1: to all of them, has been centered done. That is
Speaker 1: tell is illegal period. There are no illegal orders. They're
Speaker 1: only speculating, which is wrong. Hey, up next, doctor Zudi Jasser,
Speaker 1: who he's a reformist and the Muslim movement and you
Speaker 1: must hear him call out CARE and others, Chris crock
Speaker 1: and Jesse County. A very very important man to talk to,
Speaker 1: especially when we look at Governor Abbott in the state
Speaker 1: of Texas designating the Muslim Brotherhood as a terror organization
Speaker 1: and then CARE Council on American Islamic Relations as a
Speaker 1: terror organization. We know that today we have reports that
Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump is going to designate the Muslim Brotherhood
Speaker 1: as a terror organization. No word on whether CARE will
Speaker 1: be added to that list. Doctor Zudi Jasser from the
Speaker 1: American he's the founder of the American Islamic Forum for
Speaker 1: Democracy ai FD has is joining us right now. Doctor Jasser,
Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining us today, sir.
Speaker 6: It's great to be with you. And actually just moments
Speaker 6: to go to the assigned the Executive order making the
Speaker 6: Muslim Brotherhood a foreign terror organization globally, and to designate
Speaker 6: that the domestically and globally, we begin to identify which
Speaker 6: chapters are fitting that criteria. So it's a great day
Speaker 6: for all of us. Have been working for us for decades.
Speaker 1: Now tell me why you've been working at it to
Speaker 1: make the Muslim Brotherhood a terror organization in the depths
Speaker 1: of that. If you can't, you could do a whole
Speaker 1: exposantic but in our short time we have together. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So bottom line is that you know, my family escaped
Speaker 6: Syria to come here and be able to practice our
Speaker 6: faith more freely than we could in any so called
Speaker 6: Muslim country. And this is a very American fight. Our
Speaker 6: founding fathers fought against deocracy, the theocrats, and the Muslim world.
Speaker 6: The sunny side are the Muslim Brotherhood, the Shia side
Speaker 6: or the Hominis Nahran. Bottom line is that they think
Speaker 6: that they are God. They don't believe in rule by
Speaker 6: human elections and democracy. They believe in rule by interpretation
Speaker 6: of their scripture, their interpretation of scripture rather than personal ones.
Speaker 6: And this is why it's a very American fight and
Speaker 6: the only, the only antidote to political Islam or Islamism
Speaker 6: is Americanism. And I think this is finally we have
Speaker 6: an offense. We've been playing defense. I was on the
Speaker 6: US Commission on International Religious Freedom for four years, appointed
Speaker 6: by Senator McConnell. In twenty thirteen, we went to Egypt.
Speaker 6: I met with the Brotherhood and they were running Egypt,
Speaker 6: and they were allowing churches to be burned down and
Speaker 6: other savages against other minorities in Egypt. And it was
Speaker 6: a clearly operating like a terror organization. And yet the
Speaker 6: toughest meeting I had was with President Obama's appointee, Ambassador Patterson,
Speaker 6: who was telling me they're democratically elected, they are not terrorists,
Speaker 6: and this is what the people have chosen. That Hamas
Speaker 6: was democratically elected, and they're still a terror organization on
Speaker 6: our genicidal And sure enough we see October seven, twenty
Speaker 6: three what Hamas did. They are a branch of the Brotherhood.
Speaker 1: Also, so there's no question that Governor Abbit in Texas
Speaker 1: is right to designate the Brotherhood as a terror organization
Speaker 1: as well as Donald J. Trump tell me about care
Speaker 1: because Governor Abbot labeled them as a terror organization, should
Speaker 1: President Trump also label the CARE as a radical Islamic organization,
Speaker 1: the terror organization, and why.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, I look ahet it like we did
Speaker 6: in the Cold War. We were fighting the Soviets, and
Speaker 6: clearly the folks that were working with the Soviet regime
Speaker 6: were our enemy and the threat to the West. There
Speaker 6: were other communist groups around the world that might not
Speaker 6: have been Soviet sympathizers are directly working for them, but
Speaker 6: they were sympathized with communism. CARE is an Islamist group.
Speaker 6: They're founding. Document under FBI a wiretap in nineteen ninety
Speaker 6: one demonstrated that they were of hamas founding in ninety one,
Speaker 6: and ultimately they said they were going to use the
Speaker 6: Palestinian issue to form a group. They initially started as
Speaker 6: an Islamic Association for Palestine and then morphed into CARE.
Speaker 6: The Holy Land Foundation trial in Texas back in two
Speaker 6: thousand and eight and then in two thousand and nine
Speaker 6: convicted six board members of going to providing funneling money
Speaker 6: to HUMAF, and they ultimately shut down the Holy Land
Speaker 6: Foundation and those board members went to prison. CARE was
Speaker 6: identified as an unindicted co conspirator and they tried to
Speaker 6: have that identification removed through court action years later, and
Speaker 6: they failed because they were part of that adjacent network,
Speaker 6: if you will. Now, should we go far enough to
Speaker 6: say that they're an FTO foreign terror group, we still
Speaker 6: need evidence. I'd love to see the evidence of what
Speaker 6: the governor has on that. But bottom line is, they
Speaker 6: certainly should be part of the, if you will, radioactive
Speaker 6: nature of these Islamist groups that are a threat and
Speaker 6: certainly not all about civil rights like they claimed to be.
Speaker 1: Governor I pointed to a federal court finding can CARE
Speaker 1: to Hamas, including a two thousand and nine Supreme Court
Speaker 1: ruling finding that was ample evidence. I think this is
Speaker 1: what you're talking about, trying to go to court to
Speaker 1: get a thrown out. Supreme Court found there was ample
Speaker 1: evidence of CARES association with the Foreign Terrorist Organization HAMAS,
Speaker 1: citing a report leging that CARE had recently provided cash
Speaker 1: grants to college students discipline for pro Hamas disruptions. Any
Speaker 1: further thoughts on.
Speaker 6: That, Yeah, not only those campus students, did they funnel
Speaker 6: that money to give them financing for disruptions and slowing
Speaker 6: and preventing Jewish students from getting to their prayer services.
Speaker 6: On Friday, as we saw across campuses. But the Students
Speaker 6: for Justice and Palestine, which is another organization similar to
Speaker 6: CARE that CARE worked with, had on their website endorsements
Speaker 6: of October seven, saying that it was about Palestinian rights, etc.
Speaker 6: And that we've been calling for exposure as definite support
Speaker 6: of material support of terrorism. So there are many aspects
Speaker 6: to it. All I can tell you is God bless
Speaker 6: the governor for finally beginning to shine light on this.
Speaker 6: And whether they're a terror group or a sympathize group,
Speaker 6: it's time to expend because they've never countered the Brotherhood.
Speaker 6: They've never expressed that the Brotherhood is not American and
Speaker 6: its ideology is not free. It's been the font of terrorism.
Speaker 6: So they can be as apoplectic as they want to
Speaker 6: be about the designation, but the bottom line is is
Speaker 6: at the minimum, they're sympathizers with the Muslim Brotherhood Hamas
Speaker 6: and terror groups that give Muslims not only a bad name,
Speaker 6: but our corruption at the core of our faith community.
Speaker 1: Doctor Sue Jasser, founder of the American Islamic Form for Democracy,
Speaker 1: how Towad, the head of CARE after October seventh, the
Speaker 1: terror attack, said he was happy. I mean, I've got
Speaker 1: the audio, but I'm sure you've heard it over and
Speaker 1: over again. I was happy, he said, to see the
Speaker 1: people of Gaza break the siege on October seventh. They
Speaker 1: were victorious. The people of Gaza have the right to
Speaker 1: self defense. Israel does not. Did that surprise you that
Speaker 1: you shouldn't say that, not at all.
Speaker 6: They have been multiple times had opportunities to condemn law,
Speaker 6: to condemn Hamas. After nine to eleven they were asked
Speaker 6: to condemn al Qaida's movements, and they complained about conspiracy
Speaker 6: theories and said they didn't do it, And ultimately they
Speaker 6: invoked every conspiracy theory and anti Semitic comments they could,
Speaker 6: and yet they couldn't get themselves to take any type
Speaker 6: of ownership and responsibility for the fact that our faith
Speaker 6: community produced these groups, these radical groups, and begin to
Speaker 6: counter it and join our Muslim reform movement to look
Speaker 6: at the theocratic ideas that in a very American way
Speaker 6: need to be reformed and defeated, so that women have
Speaker 6: a right to their own bodily autonomy, so that faith
Speaker 6: minorities have a right to religious freedoms that they have
Speaker 6: in their communities, but instead, they constantly invoked identity politics
Speaker 6: and excuses, and those excuses actually fueled radicalization. And we said,
Speaker 6: you know what, when I worked with Peter king in
Speaker 6: in New York City about defending the NYPD, they constantly,
Speaker 6: they constantly said that they were the victims. And I said,
Speaker 6: you know what, After they radicalized Muslims, they're going to
Speaker 6: come for the left. And we saw it. The Democratic
Speaker 6: Party now has been run by nihilists, far extremists, and
Speaker 6: that radicalization is the same type of radicalization that countenances
Speaker 6: of violence and terrorism, whether it's Antifa or humas. And
Speaker 6: we saw in the during COVID the BLM folks were
Speaker 6: going through towns destroying shopping centers and destroying businesses in
Speaker 6: the name of freedom, in the name of rights against
Speaker 6: the police. In fact, it was anarchy against law and order.
Speaker 6: And that's what terrorism is. It's it's the ends justifies
Speaker 6: the means. It's a lack of a moral compass and
Speaker 6: care has never has never spoken against these groups. To them,
Speaker 6: the West can do no good and Islamic communities can
Speaker 6: do no bad. And that type of extremism is not
Speaker 6: what I think is the future of reform in our community.
Speaker 1: Doctor Jesser. They also talk about a one hundred year
Speaker 1: plan for the Muslim Brotherhood to wig jihad inside of
Speaker 1: free countries like ours, to take our rights and the
Speaker 1: media and use it against us.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: This is what the FBI and the Department of Justice
Speaker 1: revealed in when they bugged a hotel room in Boston
Speaker 1: with care and Undelico conspirator. As you said in the
Speaker 1: Holy Land Foundation and others in that room talking about this,
Speaker 1: is this what you understand to be true too, that
Speaker 1: the Muslim Brotherhood care use our freedoms and our laws
Speaker 1: and our media to wage a non violence jehad against
Speaker 1: us in this country and against our country.
Speaker 6: Political islam theocracy, Islamic theocracy would be it in enclaves
Speaker 6: like they're trying to do in East Plano, Islamic Center
Speaker 6: in Epic, or they you know do globally through governments
Speaker 6: like Kuttar and Turkey. That our Islamic Brotherhood type ideologues
Speaker 6: Al Jazeera It's sixty million Arabs that watch it and
Speaker 6: listen to it today are basically anti Western, anti Israel,
Speaker 6: anti Semitic. Those ideologies are all different parts of the
Speaker 6: fronts of the war against the West. The biggest threat
Speaker 6: to them for Islamic governance is liberty and Western democracy.
Speaker 6: Communism is in a threat because Muslims reject that. Typically,
Speaker 6: Russia is not a threat. The biggest threat is Western
Speaker 6: freedom and their ideologues that founded the Brotherhood in the
Speaker 6: early twentieth century say it that wrote a book called
Speaker 6: the Milestones, in which he talked about milestones along the
Speaker 6: way in which we will defeat the West. He said,
Speaker 6: I wrote a book called the Battle for the Soul
Speaker 6: of Islam, and I've highlighted in it all of the
Speaker 6: different interpretations of the Qoran that can be modernized for
Speaker 6: Western thinking that should be celebrated instead of the monolithic
Speaker 6: interpretation of the Qoran that is theocratic that comes from
Speaker 6: the hobbies of Saudi Arabia to the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt.
Speaker 6: So ultimately, these are the ideas that we have to counter.
Speaker 6: I debated this in Oxford in October twenty four and
Speaker 6: people can look up that ten minute speech and just
Speaker 6: see how I said. You know, the Islam of today
Speaker 6: is not compatible with democracy, but it can be, just
Speaker 6: as Western Christianity took seventeen hundred and eighty nine years
Speaker 6: until there was a governance, governing system that was compatible
Speaker 6: with democracy based on Jesus's message, and I think similarly
Speaker 6: Islam can have that in the future, but it has
Speaker 6: nowhere in the planet where it is today, and the
Speaker 6: Muslim brother has been the biggest obstacle to that in
Speaker 6: association with various dictatorships across the Middle East.
Speaker 1: We'll hear more from doctor Jasser coming up next on
Speaker 1: the Jesse Kelly Show. Beac with doctor Zudi Jasser, founder
Speaker 1: of the American Islamic Warm for Democracy, on the Jesse
Speaker 1: Kelly Show. Two more quick questions, Doctor Judy Jasser, I'm
Speaker 1: grateful for your time. Marwan Marouf, director of public relations
Speaker 1: for Muslim American Society of Dallas Fort Worth, has just
Speaker 1: been cuffed and stuffed in these They're going to deport
Speaker 1: him for many things, including lack of attal, valid entry document,
Speaker 1: solicitation of funds for a terrorist organization, material support of
Speaker 1: terrorism donations that he has made according to authorities for
Speaker 1: Hamas Funk Group, Holy Land Foundation, Muslim Holy Foundation, which
Speaker 1: we talked about. So I'm not sure if you're aware
Speaker 1: of him from its incession, the Holy Foundation existed to
Speaker 1: support Hamas reads the Department of justice when that case
Speaker 1: went down, So in the Heroo Care, which has numerous
Speaker 1: links to terror. This report from the Dallas Express says
Speaker 1: Today called for Maroof's release soon after his arrest in September.
Speaker 1: Not sure if you know him, but they say he's
Speaker 1: an active leader of the Muslim American Society of Dallas.
Speaker 1: Fort Worth Prosecutes alleged he founded that as an overt
Speaker 1: I was founded as an overt armed to the Muslim
Speaker 1: Brotherhood in the United States of America. Thoughts comments on
Speaker 1: that one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, listen, folks that are here. I don't
Speaker 6: know him personally or have been in contact with his
Speaker 6: work at all. But the Muslim American Society the MAAS.
Speaker 6: The Chicago Tribune had a six part series about how
Speaker 6: its chapters are basically the embodiment of the Muslim Brotherhood
Speaker 6: in America and that they ultimately if you look at
Speaker 6: their back, if you look at their constitutions and bylaws,
Speaker 6: it looks like it comes right out of the Muslim
Speaker 6: Brotherhood in Egypt, where it talks about how to indoctrinate
Speaker 6: youth and use what we call in Arabic tavilla programs, etc.
Speaker 6: So the MAAS is actually even closer to the left
Speaker 6: ventricle of the heart of the Muslim Brotherhood than even
Speaker 6: the Council on American Islamic Relations, which really more came
Speaker 6: out of Hamas. So bottom line is it's all the
Speaker 6: same different types of toxins that are not compatible with
Speaker 6: our democracy if people are here on visa or here
Speaker 6: as you know, trying to get citizenship. I think there
Speaker 6: have been many cases that Secretary of Rubio has highlighted
Speaker 6: that you know what, our citizens have free speech, they
Speaker 6: have constitutional protection. But people here on visas are hereby privilege,
Speaker 6: so they don't have a right to come here and
Speaker 6: attack our system of governance, to basically sow countenance for
Speaker 6: violence and other things. So no, I completely believe that
Speaker 6: this is why this XTO designation for the Brotherhood is
Speaker 6: so important, because it will allow us as Muslims to
Speaker 6: begin to be better advocates for Americanism and begin to
Speaker 6: marginalize these voices of extremism and anti Americanism that exists
Speaker 6: in so many Islamic identity groups and even in many
Speaker 6: mosques that countenance this radicalization.
Speaker 1: And here's care the executive director for Texas calling this
Speaker 1: man who headed up the muslimer moss Mas of Dell's
Speaker 1: fourth a pillar of the community shocker. One last thing
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about doctor Zuli Jaster. While
Speaker 1: we have you, I'm grateful for your time. Is the
Speaker 1: new mayor of New York City. The incoming mayor of
Speaker 1: New York City's Ormondami. I think he's an Islamist and
Speaker 1: a Marxist communist. What do you think about him? And
Speaker 1: where do you think his thoughts lie as far as
Speaker 1: Islam and Islamism, Well in.
Speaker 6: The tree, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Speaker 6: His father is a radical, far left extremist professor in
Speaker 6: Columbia that compared that said Abraham Lincoln was worse than
Speaker 6: Adolf Hitler. So this is the type of ideology of
Speaker 6: what he feels about America. Mamdani a week before he
Speaker 6: got elected, went and shook the hands and hugged Animam
Speaker 6: by the name of Sadaj Wahaj and Imam. That is
Speaker 6: highlighted in my book A Battle for the Soul of Islam.
Speaker 6: I went to one meeting of the largest Muslim brotherhood
Speaker 6: organization in America called the Islamic Society of North America
Speaker 6: in ninety five that Imam gave the keynote address. He
Speaker 6: held up the Quran and said, it is our role
Speaker 6: as Muslims to change the constitution and put into its
Speaker 6: place the Quran as the guiding constitution of this country.
Speaker 6: I went to the microphone within minutes in which he
Speaker 6: finished one of the q and a microphones and said,
Speaker 6: whoever's here that works for the government or believes in
Speaker 6: our constitution, you should resigning me imediately. This is a
Speaker 6: seditious organization. And the Iman what he just said, he
Speaker 6: has the right to disagree with policy, but what he
Speaker 6: said is sedition and said Ajwahas thirty years later is
Speaker 6: hugging Mamdani and his kids, by the way, were arrested
Speaker 6: in a terror plot in New Mexico. So this guy
Speaker 6: is one degree of separation from multiple organizations and radicalisms
Speaker 6: that are related to terrorism, and yet he continues to
Speaker 6: be sort of like the icon representative of Muslims in
Speaker 6: Mamdani hugs them with no filter. So, yeah, Mamdani is
Speaker 6: an Islamist. He works closely with them, and he's a
Speaker 6: socialist also, so the aocs of the world, the ilhan Omars,
Speaker 6: the Mamdanis are working with the red green axis, no
Speaker 6: different than the Irans of the world. Are working with
Speaker 6: the Venezuelas and the Chinas.
Speaker 1: Yep, doctor Suggester, if people could want to follow you
Speaker 1: on Twitter or your books, tell us where we can
Speaker 1: follow you and what books we can get from you
Speaker 1: and how we can find you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, please follow me on Twitter at doctor Zudi Jasser
Speaker 6: d R v U H D I J A S
Speaker 6: S E R. And our website is Ais Democracy dot org,
Speaker 6: ais Democracy dot org and actually I co chair a
Speaker 6: coalition called the Clarity Coalition Claritycoalition dot org. Clarity stands
Speaker 6: for champions for liberty against the reality of Islamist tyranny.
Speaker 6: And my book is a Battle for the Soul of Islam,
Speaker 6: The Battle for the Soul of Islam.
Speaker 1: Doctor Zudi Jasser, the president and founder of the American
Speaker 1: Islamic Forum for Democracy. Thank you and God bless you,
Speaker 1: my friend. We appreciate you joining us today. That was
Speaker 1: doctor Zudi Jasser, President and founder of the American Islamic
Speaker 1: Forum for Democracy.