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<v Speaker 1>Chris Crocketber Jesse Kelly biss is the Jesse Kelly Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Continuing on you had Texas Governor Greg Abbott saying that

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<v Speaker 1>declaring Care Council American Islamic Relations as a terror organization

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<v Speaker 1>as well as the Mother Muslim Brotherhood, and he's right

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<v Speaker 1>on both. But I wanted to also talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump that he also signed an executive order this

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon designating the Muslim Brotherhood as a foreign terrorist organization,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's exactly correct. Let me share this with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Got some analysis from The Free Press, among other publications.

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<v Speaker 1>The Free published a story this summer on how the

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<v Speaker 1>Muslim Brotherhood is capturing Europe. They cited a leaked report

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<v Speaker 1>by the French Ministry of the Interior which concluded the

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<v Speaker 1>Brotherhood strategy is to install a form of ideological hegemony

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<v Speaker 1>by infiltrating civil society under the guise of religious and

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<v Speaker 1>educational activities. The Institute for the Study of Global Anti

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<v Speaker 1>Semitism Policy says the Muslim Brotherhood appears to be the

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<v Speaker 1>intellectual inspiration behind all Islamist groups and the ghee hottest

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<v Speaker 1>offshoots that operate today, such as Isis, al Qaida and Hamas.

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<v Speaker 1>The institute released another report in November, saying, calling it

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<v Speaker 1>the quote the Muslim Brotherhood strategy entryism, strategic entryism into

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. And this is going to sound exactly

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<v Speaker 1>like I told you that, Hamas, I'm sorry that the

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<v Speaker 1>Holyland Foundation the largest ever terrorism fundraising case in US

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<v Speaker 1>history that happened in Dellasforth, Texas in eight nine, two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and two thousand and nine, where an unindoicted co

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<v Speaker 1>conspirator in that case is Care, the consul of American

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<v Speaker 1>Islamic Relations. Remember I told you that the FBI DLJ

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<v Speaker 1>bugged a room, a hotel room in Boston where Care

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<v Speaker 1>meet met with Holyland Foundation people, and Care was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about we need to waste a jihad, a non balance

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<v Speaker 1>jihad in America, use its laws, use its freedom, to

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<v Speaker 1>use the press, to turn this country against itself in

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<v Speaker 1>the name of Islam, of radical Islam. Well, look at

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<v Speaker 1>this from the study of Global Anti Semitism and Policy

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<v Speaker 1>entitled this study entitled the Muslim Brotherhood Strategy excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>Strategic Entryism into the United States. Quote. This comprehensive study

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<v Speaker 1>exposes and examines the Muslim Brotherhood's comprehensive multi generational strategic

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<v Speaker 1>campaign to transform Western society, especially in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>from within through what is known through its own i

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<v Speaker 1>should say, through its own internal documents that describe a

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<v Speaker 1>civilizational struggle jihad. Unlike conventional terrorist threats, this strategy exploits

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<v Speaker 1>democratic freedoms and institutions to advance fundamentally anti democratic objectives,

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<v Speaker 1>representing a sophisticated form of non violent extremism targeting Western democracies.

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<v Speaker 1>The think tank also added this the Brotherhood is a

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<v Speaker 1>gateway to terrorism, infusing members with the religious doctrines and

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<v Speaker 1>hatred that justify violence. The most determined of these members

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<v Speaker 1>then form splinter groups or migrate individually to terrorist organization.

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<v Speaker 1>This is it. This is how we save our country

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<v Speaker 1>from Islamism and extremism from Islamists. And that's why Trump

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<v Speaker 1>was right today this afternoon late to designate the Muslim

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<v Speaker 1>Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. Let me share a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more. This is from the New York Post today

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<v Speaker 1>reporting on this. They cite a chilling analysis from the

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<v Speaker 1>Institute for the Global Study of Anti Semitism and Policy.

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<v Speaker 1>They found the Muslim Brotherhood is half way through its

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<v Speaker 1>plan to transform Western society from within quote. We are

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<v Speaker 1>now fifty years into the Brotherhood's one hundred year planned

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<v Speaker 1>to entrench themselves into key institutions, into the United States

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<v Speaker 1>and other Western societies to undermine a destroyer of democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you this in the last hour. I'll say

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<v Speaker 1>it again. Europe, I should say, France, Germany and Britain

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<v Speaker 1>are gone. They will be Muslim states. They will be

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<v Speaker 1>Muslim states. Do not believe me. Look at these statistics yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>These humanist, secularist countries who are having one baby if

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<v Speaker 1>you're lucky, per couple out of wedlock, most likely sadly,

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<v Speaker 1>versus the Islamic people are having five babies. You already

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<v Speaker 1>know this. No go zones, you already know Jews can't

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<v Speaker 1>go in certain areas. They're harassed, beaten, god knows what

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<v Speaker 1>because they've allowed, for example, Germany with Angela Merkel, allowed

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<v Speaker 1>a million Syrian refugees to come into their country, and

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<v Speaker 1>that the terror and the horror that has happened because

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<v Speaker 1>of that is is completely overtly resounding. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the German I heard earlier a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe last month, the German Christmas markets they have there.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe they said they're going to shut them down

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<v Speaker 1>this year because they cannot keep them open because too

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<v Speaker 1>many radical Islamis will plow a car into the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of those Christmas markets or shoot them up. Quote. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not simply a political movement, the Institute for the

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<v Speaker 1>Global Study of Global Anti Semitism and Policy side in

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<v Speaker 1>its report last week. This is not simply a political movement,

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<v Speaker 1>but a transnational ideological project that adapts itself to Western

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<v Speaker 1>styles while working to undermine them. The Brotherhood has chanced

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<v Speaker 1>a champion strict schurial law, pushed for a caliphate, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a government rule by strict Islamic code or Sharia law,

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<v Speaker 1>under which women's rights are typically severely restricted, while extreme

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<v Speaker 1>forms of punishment abound as its overseers cracked down on

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<v Speaker 1>personal freedoms. This is evil treated as cattle. They seek

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<v Speaker 1>to turn us into another Islamic nations. Islamism is rules everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and women are treated like cattle, and gays are thrown

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<v Speaker 1>off for buildings or killed or stoned, and Jews are

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<v Speaker 1>executed summarily, and people like you or me, perhaps as

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<v Speaker 1>a Christian, we are forced to convert, or we're killed

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<v Speaker 1>or enslaved globally, the Brotherhood is a gateway to terrorism,

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<v Speaker 1>infusing the members with religious doctrines and hatred. That justified violence, says,

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<v Speaker 1>the foundation of defense for democracies. So there you have it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why Donald Trump did this, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>he's right to do it. The Muslim Brotherhood's motto, Allah

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<v Speaker 1>is our objective, the Prophet is our leader, the Qoran

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<v Speaker 1>is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the

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<v Speaker 1>way of Allah as our highest hopes. Now, let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you one more thing. I could not believe this,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is very true. I had a privilege, the

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<v Speaker 1>privilege of interviewing a Jewish scholar who is an expert

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<v Speaker 1>on the Holocaust and Islamism and the Holocaust and the

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<v Speaker 1>Nazi Germany and everything in that area. And I learned

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<v Speaker 1>a lot when when I talked to him, and after

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to him. There was, first of all, the

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<v Speaker 1>Muslim Brotherhood, the years that they began and were active.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking the nineteen forties, fifties and sixties and beyond.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the original people in the Muslim Brotherhood

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<v Speaker 1>had a copy of Hitler's mind Kampf and was an admirer,

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<v Speaker 1>a very deep admirer of Hitler, and in fact he

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<v Speaker 1>helped in aiding there was a Muslim unit that went

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<v Speaker 1>in and fought in Nazi Germany and hunted down and

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<v Speaker 1>slaughtered Jews. There is no difference. This is evil, this

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<v Speaker 1>is darkness. So they're not just going to come for Jews.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to come for every one of us, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to make us submit. And thank god, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a president who will stand up to this, and

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<v Speaker 1>we have in Texas a governor who will stand up

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<v Speaker 1>to this. This is extraordinarily important, and I just I

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<v Speaker 1>can't emphasize it enough. We're going to talk to an

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<v Speaker 1>expert on this who was actually a Muslim himself, doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Zudi Jasser, from the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, coming

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<v Speaker 1>up in about twenty three minutes. I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to him about that. Oh. One more thing that

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<v Speaker 1>just broke out this afternoon. Ice is deporting another radical

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<v Speaker 1>Islamis and he's being defended by care. I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 1>surprises you. Marwan Marouf, director of public relations and fundraising

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<v Speaker 1>for the Muslim American Society. This happens to be in

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Fort Worth, but and this is a front group

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<v Speaker 1>for the Brotherhood, the Muslim American Society. He was heading

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<v Speaker 1>up for Dallas Fort Worth and the Donald Trump administration

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<v Speaker 1>cuffed him and stuffed him and is deporting him. He's

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<v Speaker 1>been overstaying a visa for eleven years. He's literally heading

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<v Speaker 1>up the Muslim American Society of Dallas forth hiding in

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<v Speaker 1>playing sight as an illegal for over ten years, and

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<v Speaker 1>he is literally in a group that is a front

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<v Speaker 1>group for the Muslim Brotherhood. The consular American Islamic Relations

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<v Speaker 1>stood up and defended him today in all of his

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<v Speaker 1>links that he has to terrorists and such. His brother

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<v Speaker 1>in law was convicted for doing business with Comas. Another

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<v Speaker 1>in law was convicted of the Holyland Foundation trial that

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<v Speaker 1>I told you about. The CARE Executive director for Texas

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<v Speaker 1>called this man a pillar of the community. That is

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<v Speaker 1>everything you need to know about the Muslim Brotherhood Care

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Coming up next to all the latest the

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<v Speaker 1>dances from the Sunday morning shows of the Democrats who

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<v Speaker 1>came on that served our country at the time supposedly

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<v Speaker 1>honorably now encouraging in its direction, I should say mutiny

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<v Speaker 1>within our own military. They are dancing around trying to

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<v Speaker 1>explain themselves and gaining their butts handed them to them

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<v Speaker 1>by the leftist Sunday shows of all places. That's coming

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<v Speaker 1>kr Oka t A. LK. Well, they're doing the dance now.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing the dance because they with the Trump arrangement syndrome,

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<v Speaker 1>decided to go nuts and literally lead troops to do mutiny. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, as you know, in the the one minute,

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<v Speaker 1>six second long gathering of different Democrats who've served in

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<v Speaker 1>the military, CIA and such, the threats to our constitution,

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<v Speaker 1>they said, aren't just coming from abroad, but right here

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<v Speaker 1>at home. The threats to our constitution right here at home.

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<v Speaker 1>You can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>when asked about but let's hear what Alyssa Slotkin, who

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the people in there she's former CIA. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what illegal orders? Specifically, these are the leftist Sunday morning shows,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, asking who you are, let's talk right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you believe President Trump has issued any illegal orders?

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<v Speaker 3>To my knowledge, I am not aware of things that

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<v Speaker 3>are illegal, but certainly.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait wait, wait nothing. Did you just say he didn't

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<v Speaker 3>My knowledge, I am not aware of things that are illegal,

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<v Speaker 3>but certainly there are some legal gymnastics that are going

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<v Speaker 3>on with these Caribbean strikes and everything related to Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've told us the threats of the constitution. The

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<v Speaker 1>constitution are coming from right here at home, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders. But

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<v Speaker 1>now you're telling us no illegal orders have been given.

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<v Speaker 1>What it does.

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<v Speaker 4>Imply that the president is having illegal orders, which you

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<v Speaker 4>have not seen.

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<v Speaker 3>I think for us, it was just a statement widely right,

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<v Speaker 3>we say, very quickly and very to all the folks

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<v Speaker 3>who come to us, this is the process. Go to

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<v Speaker 3>your jag officer, asked them for explanation for.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait wait wait, did you hear in that one minute,

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<v Speaker 1>six second video did you hear anything about go to

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<v Speaker 1>your jag officer? Because I didn't hear anything. I just

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<v Speaker 1>heard them say, you must refuse illegal orders. You can refuge,

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<v Speaker 1>you refuse legal refuse legal orders. I didn't hear any

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<v Speaker 1>of them say, you go to your jag officer.

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<v Speaker 3>To all the folks who come to us, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the process. Go to your jag officer, ask them for explanation,

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<v Speaker 3>for top cover, for their view on things. We do

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<v Speaker 3>that on a case by case basis, but we wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to speak directly to the volumes of people who had

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<v Speaker 1>The volumes of people are everywhere. They're at my door too.

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<v Speaker 1>How people can be given ilegal orders? Hew? Hew, they're everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no one there. They just did this to undermine

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<v Speaker 1>looking into Mark Kelly. They're invest getting him for what

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<v Speaker 1>he said and did. And I think that's great. If

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<v Speaker 1>he violated the law, he must be prosecuted. You do

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<v Speaker 1>not encourage our true Ah Mark I center to remark, Caroly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a hero. Look at me. I broke my arm,

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<v Speaker 1>petty myself on the back. I'm a hero. You must

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<v Speaker 1>refuse legal orders right here at home. Threats are coming

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<v Speaker 1>from here we go. We have Jason Crow, who also

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<v Speaker 1>served honorably in combat. Here's here he is trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do his dance, explaining things away on the Sunday shows

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>We wanted to start a conversation and we did about

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<v Speaker 4>the dangerous rhetoric this president is using and the threats

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<v Speaker 4>that he's made to use our military in an unlawful way.

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<v Speaker 4>Because well, send troops into Chicago, send troops into polling stations,

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<v Speaker 4>kill terrorists, families, arrest and execute, arrest and execute members

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<v Speaker 4>of Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>He has not done those things, she said, even the

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<v Speaker 1>leftist meet, he hasn't done those things. Absolute fools, dangerous fools.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Amy Klobachar, who always shakes when she talks. Next

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<v Speaker 1>time you see Amy Klobachar speak, just like in this

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is, but she's always been shaky,

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<v Speaker 1>even since she was doing the debates in the Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>nomination process for president. Here you go, I wonder, do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what the specific illegal acts are that your

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's very clear in this code for the military

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<v Speaker 5>that you cannot follow on lawful orders, and you know

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<v Speaker 5>that would be I'll just use an example. Some of

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<v Speaker 5>is not legal to send in the National Guard. And

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<v Speaker 5>those National Guard members have come home. Some of them

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<v Speaker 5>are still there. But if they're a commander, where to

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<v Speaker 5>tell him, hey, go out on the streets and do this,

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<v Speaker 5>and that that's not following the order that is in law.

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<v Speaker 5>So I just use that example.

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<v Speaker 1>Use what example you just said. They were called in

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<v Speaker 1>Texas National Guardsmen that were called in. They were sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there at Great Lagus Naval Base in the Chicagoland area,

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<v Speaker 1>right on Lake Michigan in the north shore, and they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't deployed because of this federal judge, this leftist federal

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<v Speaker 1>judge said you can't deploy them. And Trump didn't disobey

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<v Speaker 1>the order from the federal judge. Nobody was set in

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<v Speaker 1>the streets and if they were like in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>it was lawful. And if the courts said you can't

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<v Speaker 1>do that, the Trump administration sought judicial relief and got it.

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<v Speaker 1>There is nothing there and they have no good explanation.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why they sound like a fool. Let's hear what

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<v Speaker 1>happened on CNN's Abbey Phillip. It's a wink in a

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<v Speaker 1>nod and it's all meant to undermine the president of

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<v Speaker 1>United States. The military does not have a right to.

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<v Speaker 2>Under a second in this country. You do get to

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<v Speaker 2>undermine the president of the if you if you are

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<v Speaker 2>a member of Congress, you absolutely in this country have

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<v Speaker 1>It's not Congress. It is Congress that is telling some

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<v Speaker 1>congressmen and women that are telling the troops to disobey

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<v Speaker 1>their commander in chief, which is highly illegal and it

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<v Speaker 1>very well may be illegal. In fact, there is a

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<v Speaker 1>I should have pulled it up where there's a buddy

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<v Speaker 1>of mine who does the show, Eric Erickson, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had a JAG officer call in and literally give the code,

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<v Speaker 1>the US code for mutiny, and it literally reads what

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<v Speaker 1>they did as mutiny by encouraging these soldiers to disobey,

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<v Speaker 1>and mutiny is if convicted, punishab by up to death.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just how it is. If you don't want that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you think that's harsh, then don't freaking tell the

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<v Speaker 1>troops to disobey their commander in chief when nothing, according

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<v Speaker 1>to all of them, has been centered done. That is

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<v Speaker 1>tell is illegal period. There are no illegal orders. They're

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<v Speaker 1>only speculating, which is wrong. Hey, up next, doctor Zudi Jasser,

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<v Speaker 1>who he's a reformist and the Muslim movement and you

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<v Speaker 1>must hear him call out CARE and others, Chris crock

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<v Speaker 1>and Jesse County. A very very important man to talk to,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when we look at Governor Abbott in the state

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<v Speaker 1>of Texas designating the Muslim Brotherhood as a terror organization

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<v Speaker 1>and then CARE Council on American Islamic Relations as a

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<v Speaker 1>terror organization. We know that today we have reports that

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<v Speaker 1>Donald J. Trump is going to designate the Muslim Brotherhood

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<v Speaker 1>as a terror organization. No word on whether CARE will

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<v Speaker 1>be added to that list. Doctor Zudi Jasser from the

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<v Speaker 1>American he's the founder of the American Islamic Forum for

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<v Speaker 1>Democracy ai FD has is joining us right now. Doctor Jasser,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much for joining us today, sir.

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<v Speaker 6>It's great to be with you. And actually just moments

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<v Speaker 6>to go to the assigned the Executive order making the

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<v Speaker 6>Muslim Brotherhood a foreign terror organization globally, and to designate

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<v Speaker 6>that the domestically and globally, we begin to identify which

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<v Speaker 6>chapters are fitting that criteria. So it's a great day

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<v Speaker 6>for all of us. Have been working for us for decades.

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<v Speaker 1>Now tell me why you've been working at it to

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<v Speaker 1>make the Muslim Brotherhood a terror organization in the depths

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<v Speaker 1>of that. If you can't, you could do a whole

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<v Speaker 1>exposantic but in our short time we have together. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So bottom line is that you know, my family escaped

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<v Speaker 6>Syria to come here and be able to practice our

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<v Speaker 6>faith more freely than we could in any so called

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<v Speaker 6>Muslim country. And this is a very American fight. Our

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<v Speaker 6>founding fathers fought against deocracy, the theocrats, and the Muslim world.

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<v Speaker 6>The sunny side are the Muslim Brotherhood, the Shia side

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<v Speaker 6>or the Hominis Nahran. Bottom line is that they think

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<v Speaker 6>that they are God. They don't believe in rule by

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<v Speaker 6>human elections and democracy. They believe in rule by interpretation

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<v Speaker 6>of their scripture, their interpretation of scripture rather than personal ones.

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<v Speaker 6>And this is why it's a very American fight and

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<v Speaker 6>the only, the only antidote to political Islam or Islamism

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<v Speaker 6>is Americanism. And I think this is finally we have

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<v Speaker 6>an offense. We've been playing defense. I was on the

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<v Speaker 6>US Commission on International Religious Freedom for four years, appointed

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<v Speaker 6>by Senator McConnell. In twenty thirteen, we went to Egypt.

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<v Speaker 6>I met with the Brotherhood and they were running Egypt,

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<v Speaker 6>and they were allowing churches to be burned down and

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<v Speaker 6>other savages against other minorities in Egypt. And it was

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<v Speaker 6>a clearly operating like a terror organization. And yet the

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<v Speaker 6>toughest meeting I had was with President Obama's appointee, Ambassador Patterson,

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<v Speaker 6>who was telling me they're democratically elected, they are not terrorists,

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<v Speaker 6>and this is what the people have chosen. That Hamas

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<v Speaker 6>was democratically elected, and they're still a terror organization on

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<v Speaker 6>our genicidal And sure enough we see October seven, twenty

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<v Speaker 6>three what Hamas did. They are a branch of the Brotherhood.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, so there's no question that Governor Abbit in Texas

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<v Speaker 1>is right to designate the Brotherhood as a terror organization

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<v Speaker 1>as well as Donald J. Trump tell me about care

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<v Speaker 1>because Governor Abbot labeled them as a terror organization, should

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump also label the CARE as a radical Islamic organization,

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<v Speaker 1>the terror organization, and why.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, I look ahet it like we did

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<v Speaker 6>in the Cold War. We were fighting the Soviets, and

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<v Speaker 6>clearly the folks that were working with the Soviet regime

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<v Speaker 6>were our enemy and the threat to the West. There

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<v Speaker 6>were other communist groups around the world that might not

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<v Speaker 6>have been Soviet sympathizers are directly working for them, but

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<v Speaker 6>they were sympathized with communism. CARE is an Islamist group.

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<v Speaker 6>They're founding. Document under FBI a wiretap in nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 6>one demonstrated that they were of hamas founding in ninety one,

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<v Speaker 6>and ultimately they said they were going to use the

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<v Speaker 6>Palestinian issue to form a group. They initially started as

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<v Speaker 6>an Islamic Association for Palestine and then morphed into CARE.

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<v Speaker 6>The Holy Land Foundation trial in Texas back in two

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<v Speaker 6>thousand and eight and then in two thousand and nine

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<v Speaker 6>convicted six board members of going to providing funneling money

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<v Speaker 6>to HUMAF, and they ultimately shut down the Holy Land

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<v Speaker 6>Foundation and those board members went to prison. CARE was

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<v Speaker 6>identified as an unindicted co conspirator and they tried to

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<v Speaker 6>have that identification removed through court action years later, and

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<v Speaker 6>they failed because they were part of that adjacent network,

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<v Speaker 6>if you will. Now, should we go far enough to

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<v Speaker 6>say that they're an FTO foreign terror group, we still

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<v Speaker 6>need evidence. I'd love to see the evidence of what

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<v Speaker 6>the governor has on that. But bottom line is, they

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<v Speaker 6>certainly should be part of the, if you will, radioactive

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<v Speaker 6>nature of these Islamist groups that are a threat and

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<v Speaker 6>certainly not all about civil rights like they claimed to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Governor I pointed to a federal court finding can CARE

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<v Speaker 1>to Hamas, including a two thousand and nine Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>ruling finding that was ample evidence. I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>what you're talking about, trying to go to court to

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<v Speaker 1>get a thrown out. Supreme Court found there was ample

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<v Speaker 1>evidence of CARES association with the Foreign Terrorist Organization HAMAS,

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<v Speaker 1>citing a report leging that CARE had recently provided cash

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<v Speaker 1>grants to college students discipline for pro Hamas disruptions. Any

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<v Speaker 1>further thoughts on.

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<v Speaker 6>That, Yeah, not only those campus students, did they funnel

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<v Speaker 6>that money to give them financing for disruptions and slowing

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<v Speaker 6>and preventing Jewish students from getting to their prayer services.

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<v Speaker 6>On Friday, as we saw across campuses. But the Students

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<v Speaker 6>for Justice and Palestine, which is another organization similar to

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<v Speaker 6>CARE that CARE worked with, had on their website endorsements

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<v Speaker 6>of October seven, saying that it was about Palestinian rights, etc.

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<v Speaker 6>And that we've been calling for exposure as definite support

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<v Speaker 6>of material support of terrorism. So there are many aspects

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<v Speaker 6>to it. All I can tell you is God bless

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<v Speaker 6>the governor for finally beginning to shine light on this.

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<v Speaker 6>And whether they're a terror group or a sympathize group,

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<v Speaker 6>it's time to expend because they've never countered the Brotherhood.

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<v Speaker 6>They've never expressed that the Brotherhood is not American and

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<v Speaker 6>its ideology is not free. It's been the font of terrorism.

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<v Speaker 6>So they can be as apoplectic as they want to

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<v Speaker 6>be about the designation, but the bottom line is is

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<v Speaker 6>at the minimum, they're sympathizers with the Muslim Brotherhood Hamas

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<v Speaker 6>and terror groups that give Muslims not only a bad name,

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<v Speaker 6>but our corruption at the core of our faith community.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Sue Jasser, founder of the American Islamic Form for Democracy,

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<v Speaker 1>how Towad, the head of CARE after October seventh, the

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<v Speaker 1>terror attack, said he was happy. I mean, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>the audio, but I'm sure you've heard it over and

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<v Speaker 1>over again. I was happy, he said, to see the

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<v Speaker 1>people of Gaza break the siege on October seventh. They

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<v Speaker 1>were victorious. The people of Gaza have the right to

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<v Speaker 6>They have been multiple times had opportunities to condemn law,

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<v Speaker 6>to condemn Hamas. After nine to eleven they were asked

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<v Speaker 6>to condemn al Qaida's movements, and they complained about conspiracy

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<v Speaker 6>theories and said they didn't do it, And ultimately they

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<v Speaker 6>invoked every conspiracy theory and anti Semitic comments they could,

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<v Speaker 6>and yet they couldn't get themselves to take any type

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<v Speaker 6>of ownership and responsibility for the fact that our faith

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<v Speaker 6>community produced these groups, these radical groups, and begin to

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<v Speaker 6>counter it and join our Muslim reform movement to look

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<v Speaker 6>at the theocratic ideas that in a very American way

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<v Speaker 6>need to be reformed and defeated, so that women have

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<v Speaker 6>in their communities, but instead, they constantly invoked identity politics

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<v Speaker 6>and excuses, and those excuses actually fueled radicalization. And we said,

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<v Speaker 6>you know what, when I worked with Peter king in

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<v Speaker 6>in New York City about defending the NYPD, they constantly,

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<v Speaker 6>they constantly said that they were the victims. And I said,

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<v Speaker 6>you know what, After they radicalized Muslims, they're going to

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<v Speaker 6>come for the left. And we saw it. The Democratic

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<v Speaker 6>Party now has been run by nihilists, far extremists, and

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<v Speaker 6>that radicalization is the same type of radicalization that countenances

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<v Speaker 6>of violence and terrorism, whether it's Antifa or humas. And

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<v Speaker 6>we saw in the during COVID the BLM folks were

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<v Speaker 6>going through towns destroying shopping centers and destroying businesses in

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<v Speaker 6>the name of freedom, in the name of rights against

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<v Speaker 6>the police. In fact, it was anarchy against law and order.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's what terrorism is. It's it's the ends justifies

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<v Speaker 6>the means. It's a lack of a moral compass and

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<v Speaker 6>care has never has never spoken against these groups. To them,

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<v Speaker 6>the West can do no good and Islamic communities can

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<v Speaker 6>do no bad. And that type of extremism is not

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<v Speaker 6>what I think is the future of reform in our community.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Jesser. They also talk about a one hundred year

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<v Speaker 1>plan for the Muslim Brotherhood to wig jihad inside of

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<v Speaker 1>free countries like ours, to take our rights and the

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<v Speaker 1>media and use it against us.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what the FBI and the Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 1>revealed in when they bugged a hotel room in Boston

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<v Speaker 1>with care and Undelico conspirator. As you said in the

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<v Speaker 1>Holy Land Foundation and others in that room talking about this,

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<v Speaker 1>is this what you understand to be true too, that

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<v Speaker 1>the Muslim Brotherhood care use our freedoms and our laws

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<v Speaker 1>and our media to wage a non violence jehad against

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<v Speaker 1>us in this country and against our country.

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<v Speaker 6>Political islam theocracy, Islamic theocracy would be it in enclaves

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<v Speaker 6>like they're trying to do in East Plano, Islamic Center

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<v Speaker 6>in Epic, or they you know do globally through governments

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<v Speaker 6>like Kuttar and Turkey. That our Islamic Brotherhood type ideologues

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<v Speaker 6>Al Jazeera It's sixty million Arabs that watch it and

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<v Speaker 6>listen to it today are basically anti Western, anti Israel,

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<v Speaker 6>anti Semitic. Those ideologies are all different parts of the

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<v Speaker 6>fronts of the war against the West. The biggest threat

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<v Speaker 6>to them for Islamic governance is liberty and Western democracy.

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<v Speaker 6>Communism is in a threat because Muslims reject that. Typically,

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<v Speaker 6>Russia is not a threat. The biggest threat is Western

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<v Speaker 6>freedom and their ideologues that founded the Brotherhood in the

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<v Speaker 6>early twentieth century say it that wrote a book called

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<v Speaker 6>the Milestones, in which he talked about milestones along the

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<v Speaker 6>way in which we will defeat the West. He said,

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<v Speaker 6>I wrote a book called the Battle for the Soul

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<v Speaker 6>of Islam, and I've highlighted in it all of the

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<v Speaker 6>different interpretations of the Qoran that can be modernized for

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<v Speaker 6>Western thinking that should be celebrated instead of the monolithic

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<v Speaker 6>interpretation of the Qoran that is theocratic that comes from

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<v Speaker 6>the hobbies of Saudi Arabia to the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt.

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<v Speaker 6>So ultimately, these are the ideas that we have to counter.

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<v Speaker 6>I debated this in Oxford in October twenty four and

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<v Speaker 6>people can look up that ten minute speech and just

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<v Speaker 6>see how I said. You know, the Islam of today

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<v Speaker 6>is not compatible with democracy, but it can be, just

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<v Speaker 6>as Western Christianity took seventeen hundred and eighty nine years

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<v Speaker 6>until there was a governance, governing system that was compatible

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<v Speaker 6>with democracy based on Jesus's message, and I think similarly

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<v Speaker 6>Islam can have that in the future, but it has

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<v Speaker 6>nowhere in the planet where it is today, and the

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<v Speaker 6>Muslim brother has been the biggest obstacle to that in

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<v Speaker 6>association with various dictatorships across the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll hear more from doctor Jasser coming up next on

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<v Speaker 1>the Jesse Kelly Show. Beac with doctor Zudi Jasser, founder

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<v Speaker 1>of the American Islamic Warm for Democracy, on the Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly Show. Two more quick questions, Doctor Judy Jasser, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for your time. Marwan Marouf, director of public relations

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<v Speaker 1>for Muslim American Society of Dallas Fort Worth, has just

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<v Speaker 1>been cuffed and stuffed in these They're going to deport

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<v Speaker 1>him for many things, including lack of attal, valid entry document,

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<v Speaker 1>solicitation of funds for a terrorist organization, material support of

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<v Speaker 1>terrorism donations that he has made according to authorities for

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<v Speaker 1>Hamas Funk Group, Holy Land Foundation, Muslim Holy Foundation, which

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about. So I'm not sure if you're aware

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<v Speaker 1>of him from its incession, the Holy Foundation existed to

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<v Speaker 1>support Hamas reads the Department of justice when that case

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<v Speaker 1>went down, So in the Heroo Care, which has numerous

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<v Speaker 1>links to terror. This report from the Dallas Express says

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<v Speaker 1>Today called for Maroof's release soon after his arrest in September.

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<v Speaker 1>Not sure if you know him, but they say he's

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<v Speaker 1>an active leader of the Muslim American Society of Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>Fort Worth Prosecutes alleged he founded that as an overt

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<v Speaker 1>I was founded as an overt armed to the Muslim

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<v Speaker 1>Brotherhood in the United States of America. Thoughts comments on

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<v Speaker 1>that one.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, listen, folks that are here. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know him personally or have been in contact with his

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<v Speaker 6>work at all. But the Muslim American Society the MAAS.

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<v Speaker 6>The Chicago Tribune had a six part series about how

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<v Speaker 6>its chapters are basically the embodiment of the Muslim Brotherhood

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<v Speaker 6>in America and that they ultimately if you look at

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<v Speaker 6>their back, if you look at their constitutions and bylaws,

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<v Speaker 6>it looks like it comes right out of the Muslim

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<v Speaker 6>Brotherhood in Egypt, where it talks about how to indoctrinate

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<v Speaker 6>youth and use what we call in Arabic tavilla programs, etc.

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<v Speaker 6>So the MAAS is actually even closer to the left

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<v Speaker 6>ventricle of the heart of the Muslim Brotherhood than even

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<v Speaker 6>the Council on American Islamic Relations, which really more came

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<v Speaker 6>out of Hamas. So bottom line is it's all the

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<v Speaker 6>same different types of toxins that are not compatible with

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<v Speaker 6>our democracy if people are here on visa or here

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<v Speaker 6>as you know, trying to get citizenship. I think there

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<v Speaker 6>have been many cases that Secretary of Rubio has highlighted

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<v Speaker 6>that you know what, our citizens have free speech, they

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<v Speaker 6>have constitutional protection. But people here on visas are hereby privilege,

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<v Speaker 6>so they don't have a right to come here and

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<v Speaker 6>attack our system of governance, to basically sow countenance for

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<v Speaker 6>violence and other things. So no, I completely believe that

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<v Speaker 6>this is why this XTO designation for the Brotherhood is

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<v Speaker 6>so important, because it will allow us as Muslims to

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<v Speaker 6>begin to be better advocates for Americanism and begin to

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<v Speaker 6>marginalize these voices of extremism and anti Americanism that exists

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<v Speaker 6>in so many Islamic identity groups and even in many

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<v Speaker 6>mosques that countenance this radicalization.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's care the executive director for Texas calling this

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<v Speaker 1>man who headed up the muslimer moss Mas of Dell's

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<v Speaker 1>fourth a pillar of the community shocker. One last thing

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask you about doctor Zuli Jaster. While

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<v Speaker 1>we have you, I'm grateful for your time. Is the

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<v Speaker 1>new mayor of New York City. The incoming mayor of

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<v Speaker 1>New York City's Ormondami. I think he's an Islamist and

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<v Speaker 1>a Marxist communist. What do you think about him? And

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<v Speaker 1>where do you think his thoughts lie as far as

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<v Speaker 1>Islam and Islamism, Well in.

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<v Speaker 6>The tree, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

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<v Speaker 6>His father is a radical, far left extremist professor in

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<v Speaker 6>Columbia that compared that said Abraham Lincoln was worse than

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<v Speaker 6>Adolf Hitler. So this is the type of ideology of

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<v Speaker 6>what he feels about America. Mamdani a week before he

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<v Speaker 6>got elected, went and shook the hands and hugged Animam

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<v Speaker 6>by the name of Sadaj Wahaj and Imam. That is

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<v Speaker 6>highlighted in my book A Battle for the Soul of Islam.

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<v Speaker 6>I went to one meeting of the largest Muslim brotherhood

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<v Speaker 6>organization in America called the Islamic Society of North America

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<v Speaker 6>in ninety five that Imam gave the keynote address. He

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<v Speaker 6>held up the Quran and said, it is our role

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<v Speaker 6>as Muslims to change the constitution and put into its

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<v Speaker 6>place the Quran as the guiding constitution of this country.

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<v Speaker 6>I went to the microphone within minutes in which he

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<v Speaker 6>finished one of the q and a microphones and said,

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<v Speaker 6>whoever's here that works for the government or believes in

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<v Speaker 6>our constitution, you should resigning me imediately. This is a

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<v Speaker 6>seditious organization. And the Iman what he just said, he

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<v Speaker 6>has the right to disagree with policy, but what he

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<v Speaker 6>said is sedition and said Ajwahas thirty years later is

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<v Speaker 6>hugging Mamdani and his kids, by the way, were arrested

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<v Speaker 6>in a terror plot in New Mexico. So this guy

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<v Speaker 6>is one degree of separation from multiple organizations and radicalisms

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<v Speaker 6>that are related to terrorism, and yet he continues to

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<v Speaker 6>be sort of like the icon representative of Muslims in

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<v Speaker 6>Mamdani hugs them with no filter. So, yeah, Mamdani is

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<v Speaker 6>an Islamist. He works closely with them, and he's a

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<v Speaker 6>socialist also, so the aocs of the world, the ilhan Omars,

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<v Speaker 6>the Mamdanis are working with the red green axis, no

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<v Speaker 6>different than the Irans of the world. Are working with

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<v Speaker 6>the Venezuelas and the Chinas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, doctor Suggester, if people could want to follow you

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter or your books, tell us where we can

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<v Speaker 1>follow you and what books we can get from you

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<v Speaker 1>and how we can find you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, please follow me on Twitter at doctor Zudi Jasser

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<v Speaker 6>d R v U H D I J A S

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<v Speaker 6>S E R. And our website is Ais Democracy dot org,

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<v Speaker 6>ais Democracy dot org and actually I co chair a

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<v Speaker 6>coalition called the Clarity Coalition Claritycoalition dot org. Clarity stands

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<v Speaker 6>for champions for liberty against the reality of Islamist tyranny.

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<v Speaker 6>And my book is a Battle for the Soul of Islam,

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<v Speaker 6>The Battle for the Soul of Islam.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Zudi Jasser, the president and founder of the American

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<v Speaker 1>Islamic Forum for Democracy. Thank you and God bless you,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. We appreciate you joining us today. That was

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Zudi Jasser, President and founder of the American Islamic

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<v Speaker 1>Forum for Democracy.
