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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue and sider Dick Gabriel with

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<v Speaker 1>you on an NCAA tournament Thursday. Hope you are already

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<v Speaker 1>on your way with your bracket. I had Louisville beating Creighton,

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<v Speaker 1>did not see really what was looking like a blowout

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<v Speaker 1>for the longest time coming. So I'm already down one

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<v Speaker 1>in my bracketing. But man, Louisville went cold, Creighton got hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Louisville's perimeter defense turned really soft, and a big kid

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle for Creighton is really really good and

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be interesting now to see him go

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<v Speaker 1>up against Broom, the former Moorhead State Eagle now playing

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<v Speaker 1>for Auburn. So yeah, not a great start for Louisville,

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<v Speaker 1>but a great year, I mean, considering everything UO L

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<v Speaker 1>had gone through the past couple of years, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just alongside Kentucky's rise, both of those fan bases having

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun. And there were a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>UL fans who were going nuts when Louisville cut it

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<v Speaker 1>to what a four point game in the first half,

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<v Speaker 1>But then Creighton spurted and then really that was it

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<v Speaker 1>that they really just had no answers for them defensively,

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<v Speaker 1>So season over, but I was in a text chain

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<v Speaker 1>with my brother and a couple of friends and they

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<v Speaker 1>still admitted they had a lot of fun this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody, anybody in the Louisville fan base

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<v Speaker 1>expected this to happen so soon, just like I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Kentucky fans probably deep down didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Polk could generate this kind of excitement. They were optimistic,

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<v Speaker 1>they were hopeful, still are. But I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>anybody expected this season for UK to go as it has,

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<v Speaker 1>nor has anybody in the U OFL camp I think

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<v Speaker 1>thought of a go immediately this way. Did you really

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<v Speaker 1>think Kentucky could be a three seed when the season began?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you really think Kentucky could rack up the quality

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<v Speaker 1>wins it did? And yeah, there were some games that

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<v Speaker 1>should never have lost Georgia Vanderbilt, games like that, played

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<v Speaker 1>terribly against Ohio State up in New York. But the

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<v Speaker 1>quality wins, the quad ones that has put Kentucky in

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<v Speaker 1>a position that it is now. I don't think anybody

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<v Speaker 1>saw that coming. So that's a tomorrow thing. Is the

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats play at seven o'clock. As you know, tomorrow night

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<v Speaker 1>you'll hear it right here on six point thirty WLAP. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>UK women open up play tomorrow in Lexington at Historic

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<v Speaker 1>Memorial Coliseum. And I, for the life of me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've been here forever, I cannot recall NCA tournaments happening

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<v Speaker 1>at both locations. And they probably have this written down

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere and I haven't seen it, but I gotta think

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<v Speaker 1>this is the first time that the women's tournament has

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<v Speaker 1>been going on on campus and the men's tournament, even

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<v Speaker 1>with the Wildcats not in it. They haven't been able

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<v Speaker 1>to play at home for you know, since the mid

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<v Speaker 1>eighties in the NCA tournament. But for them to be

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<v Speaker 1>going on simultaneously basically is just in credible. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>a credit to the UK women. I mean, the men's

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<v Speaker 1>tournament for this season was set, you know, more than

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago. But you earn your way

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<v Speaker 1>in women's basketball to hosting, you really have to. They

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<v Speaker 1>tried to go to neutral sites and nobody showed, so

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<v Speaker 1>they you know, it's a disadvantage of course for the

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<v Speaker 1>teams on the road, but you just don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>play in front of these empty in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>these empty barns, in front of nobody, so they've gone

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<v Speaker 1>to the home courts for the women's game, but if

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<v Speaker 1>it keeps growing in popularity, he may go back to

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<v Speaker 1>neutral sites. Anyhow, Kentucky earned its way to hosting, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Cats take on Liberty tomorrow at noon. Darren Hedrick's

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<v Speaker 1>going to join us a little bit later on give

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<v Speaker 1>us a scouting report on both teams, but his pregame

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<v Speaker 1>show begins at eleven forty five a tip off set

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<v Speaker 1>for noon. Yeah, it's gonna be on ESPN, but we

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<v Speaker 1>invite you to listen to it right here on six thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>WLAP and the coach and players for both teams for

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. Team's really spoke today to the media,

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<v Speaker 1>and Georgia Aymore, a veteran of NCA action thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>her stay at Virginia Tech with Kenny Brooks, was excited

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<v Speaker 1>to be going into the tournament with a brand new team.

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<v Speaker 2>What it's exciting to be with this group, as Deja mentioned, like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's his second year in the tournament, and it's exciting

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<v Speaker 2>because the group we have and the coach we have.

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<v Speaker 2>But all the girls are ready to take this experience

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<v Speaker 2>and make the absolute most of it because it's not

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<v Speaker 2>very often that you get put in in a position.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this, so she is the X factor. Clearly, when

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<v Speaker 1>Liberty's coaches sat down to drop a game plan, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to start with Georgia Aymore. There's no question about that.

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot let her get hot. She scored forty three

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<v Speaker 1>against Oklahoma. But she distributes the ball, she guards, she

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<v Speaker 1>controls tempo. But again, Kentucky a terrific defensive team with

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive player of the Year and Clara Strack who

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<v Speaker 1>blocks a lot of shots. You know, and it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be important for Tiani Key to stay out of

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<v Speaker 1>foul trouble because she is the physical presence on that

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<v Speaker 1>front line. Kenny Brooks obviously knows all that, but he

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<v Speaker 1>also knows how to bring a team into the tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>He brought Virginia Tech to the Final four one year,

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<v Speaker 1>and as he pointed out today, basically experience preparing a

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<v Speaker 1>tournament team before he got the lection in is helping

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<v Speaker 1>him now. But he thought he'd have a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>ball club.

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<v Speaker 3>Women's basketball has gotten to the point where parody is

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<v Speaker 3>real and you can look at it and we're a

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<v Speaker 3>four seed, and you know, Liberty is a thirteen seed.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not. They're a good basketball team. You're not a

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<v Speaker 3>thirteen seed if you won twenty six games or whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it is. They're a good basketball team and they can

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<v Speaker 3>come in here and they can beat you. And so

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<v Speaker 3>you have to lock in and focus.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Leading up to today, we've tried to just have a

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<v Speaker 3>great practice, you know, don't worry about anything else, just

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<v Speaker 3>have a great practice today. And I told him that

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<v Speaker 3>at this point, you can't be good, because good can

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<v Speaker 3>get you sent home. You have to be great every day, practice,

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<v Speaker 3>media session. You got to be great and everything that

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<v Speaker 3>you do at this point so that you can advance.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's something that we've learned from our

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<v Speaker 3>experiences in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>And because of that experience, he knows that any advantage

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<v Speaker 1>that the Big Blue Nation can give his team will

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<v Speaker 1>be vital and much appreciated.

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<v Speaker 3>We've developed a relationship with Big Blue Nation. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that they really like what we do. It's a fun

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<v Speaker 3>style of basketball. They'll come out and supported us, and

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<v Speaker 3>they've made us better. And I've often said a fan

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<v Speaker 3>base can make a good team great, and so we

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<v Speaker 3>need Big Blue Nation to come out, come out.

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<v Speaker 5>And be loud.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to need every bit of it. We say

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<v Speaker 3>home court advantage is at least worth eight points, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to need every one of them against Liberty

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<v Speaker 3>because they're a good basketball team, very unique in what

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<v Speaker 3>they run and how they run. It is very different

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<v Speaker 3>than what we've seen the last seventeen or eighteen games,

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<v Speaker 3>and so we're going to need that extra oof to

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<v Speaker 3>get us over the top.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I said earlier, will learn more about Liberty

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<v Speaker 1>from Darren Hedrick when he joins us here at the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the hour. Well, also talk tom Kentucky Baseball

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<v Speaker 1>as a wildcasts head into the weekend series with the

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<v Speaker 1>Auburn Tigers. So Auburn basketball fans have a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>slip over to KPP this weekend catch a little baseball

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I've got to think that that will happen.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll see that orange and blue over at Kentucky Proud Park.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know probably by now we pre record. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't help you with scores from the other games from

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<v Speaker 1>earlier today, but you know, coming up at about ten

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<v Speaker 1>minutes to seven, you've got Tennessee and Wafferd the Terriers

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<v Speaker 1>of Wafford. But at seven to ten on CBS, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got that Arkansas Kansas matchup. That is going to be fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>And for some reason, people keep talking about Self versus Caliperi.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they forget that, or at least I didn't see.

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<v Speaker 1>When I first saw the guys, the talking heads talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the matchup, nobody mentioned the fact that these guys

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<v Speaker 1>beat each other for national titles. Self beat Calipari when

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<v Speaker 1>he was in Memphis for a national title, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was a game Calipari's team should have won, I could have,

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<v Speaker 1>but should have won. Calibreria should have multiple national titles.

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<v Speaker 1>He should have at least two, maybe three a Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 1>but the one he did get came at the expense

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<v Speaker 1>of Bill Self Andrik Patino, but Bill self. So anyhow,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fascinating matchup. I've got Kansas winning now, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't buy into Arkansas yet. But Kansas hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>impressed me, hasn't impressed many. You know, it's underachieved, really,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why it's a seventh seed right now. Up next,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of anniversary dates are near either came or

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<v Speaker 1>on the way, and I wanted to get in. One

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<v Speaker 1>involves the Wildcats and their trip to the National Championship

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy eight. It's a big day in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of UK basketball, a big anniversary date. But also

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<v Speaker 1>there's another anniversary date in the history of show business

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<v Speaker 1>lash baseball that's coming up on six point thirty WLAP

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Big Moonsider. Coming up, we will

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<v Speaker 1>preview both the UK men and the women getting started

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<v Speaker 1>in the nca tournament. And as you know in rupp Arena,

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<v Speaker 1>the NCAA Tournament happening. Kentucky of course is not involved

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<v Speaker 1>in those games, but maybe Auburn plays its way through

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<v Speaker 1>and there will be Auburn basketball fans in the baseball

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<v Speaker 1>park this weekend because the baseball Wildcats take on Auburn

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<v Speaker 1>as well. We will have those for you on SEC

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<v Speaker 1>plus the first two games Doug Flynn and yours truly.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the Mothership moves in with Sunday's game. I would imagine, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to be pretty well tied up all

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<v Speaker 1>weekend with basketball. But if you want to check out

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<v Speaker 1>the baseball you can find it now. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>bring up a couple of anniversary dates today. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, I missed one yesterday. I found out

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<v Speaker 1>later on in the day once we were done putting

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<v Speaker 1>the show together, that it was the anniversary of the

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<v Speaker 1>game in nineteen seventy eight, which of course was a

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<v Speaker 1>national chairchampionship year for the basketball Wildcats. That it was

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<v Speaker 1>on that date that Kentucky beat Michigan State and Magic

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson in Dayton, Ohio, where the first force happening and

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<v Speaker 1>also where Kentucky had to upset Indiana four years prior.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was such an incredible game because you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about tenths low scoring. Fifty two to forty nine. Was

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<v Speaker 1>the final halftime, Kentucky's down twenty seven to twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>and Kentucky was struggling. Michigan State had a really good team, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>so during a time out, Leonard Hamilton, Joe Bee's assistant

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, suggested that Kentucky put Rick Roby in

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<v Speaker 1>have to let him shoot or go through it and

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<v Speaker 1>foul him. And that's what happened, and Kyle ends up

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<v Speaker 1>hitting ten of eleven from the free throw line, locked

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<v Speaker 1>up the game. You remember him missing one. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>worked the game for UK's campus radio station at the time, WBKY.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to broadcast of that game. Not many people listen,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, I'll listen to k would of course, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>basely ends up at eighteen points. Kentucky sixteen of eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>from the free throw line, only scored fifty nine or

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<v Speaker 1>five assists, but he had four fouls a couple of steals,

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<v Speaker 1>He had seven boards, six to twelve from outside, and

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Phillips in that game. So yeah, it was fun

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<v Speaker 1>this freshman, and of course they going to win it

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<v Speaker 1>next year. But that was a huge win. On March eighteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>into this topic on our Monday show. March twenty fourth

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<v Speaker 1>First Routine aired on radio in nineteen thirty eight. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>of you, I'm sure heard some or all of Who's

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<v Speaker 1>are several others that are similar to Who's On First.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one called I Work on Watt Street or Who

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<v Speaker 1>Died Dyed? You know, which is the business owner whose

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<v Speaker 1>And so they tweaked it Abbit and Costelle in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>but Abbott worked this routine with another partner prior to

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<v Speaker 1>did it on vaudeville stages through nineteen thirty seven, and

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty eight they first performed it for a national

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<v Speaker 1>radio audience. And they you know, polished it through the years,

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<v Speaker 1>but it just caught on, as you well know. And

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen fifty six, a gold record of Who's On

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<v Speaker 1>First went into the National Baseball Hall of Fame and

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<v Speaker 1>Museum in Cooperstown, and they've got a video plays continuously

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<v Speaker 1>on screens at the Hall of Fame. If you've ever

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<v Speaker 1>But this is part of Who's on first? With Abin

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<v Speaker 6>Louis te we had that who's on first? What's on second?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know's on third?

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<v Speaker 7>That's what I want to find out.

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<v Speaker 6>I want you to tell me the names and the

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<v Speaker 6>on first, what's on second?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know he's on third?

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<v Speaker 5>You know the fellow's name?

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<v Speaker 6>Now, on the Saint Louis team, we have who's on first,

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<v Speaker 6>what's on second? I don't know's on third. That's what

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<v Speaker 6>I want to find out. I want you to tell

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<v Speaker 6>me the names and the fellows on a Saint Louis team.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm telling you who's on first, what's on second? I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know he's on third. You know the fellow's names?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, then who's playing first?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean the fellow's name on first base?

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<v Speaker 6>Who the fellow player first base for Saint Louis? Who

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<v Speaker 6>the guy on first base? Who is on first? Who

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<v Speaker 6>are he asking me for? I'm not asking you. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>telling you who is on first I'm asking you who's

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<v Speaker 6>on first? That's the man's name, that's whose name? Yes,

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<v Speaker 6>We'll go ahead and tell me who the guy on.

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<v Speaker 7>First, the first base?

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<v Speaker 6>Who is on first? How you got a first basement

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<v Speaker 6>on first?

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<v Speaker 8>Second rate?

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<v Speaker 6>Then?

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<v Speaker 7>Who's playing first? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 6>When you pay off the first basement every month?

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<v Speaker 7>Who gets them on every dollar of it?

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<v Speaker 6>Why not?

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<v Speaker 7>The man's entitled Lewis who is Yes? So who gets it?

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<v Speaker 7>Why shouldn't he? Sometimes his wife comes down and collects it?

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<v Speaker 7>Who's way?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 7>After all a man earns it? Who does? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I'm trying to find outice, what's the guy's name

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<v Speaker 6>on first base?

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<v Speaker 7>No? No, what is on second base?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not asking you who's on seconds?

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<v Speaker 7>On first? That's what I'm trying to find out.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't change the players. I'm not changing nobody. What's the

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<v Speaker 7>What's the guy's name on second base?

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<v Speaker 6>I am not asking you who's on seconds?

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<v Speaker 7>On first? I don't know he's on third.

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<v Speaker 6>We're not talking about him.

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<v Speaker 7>How did I get on third base? You mentioned his name?

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<v Speaker 6>If I mentioned a third basems name, who did I

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<v Speaker 6>say is playing third? Oh?

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<v Speaker 7>Who's playing first? Stay off of first with it. What

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<v Speaker 7>do you want me to do?

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<v Speaker 6>Now?

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<v Speaker 7>What's the guy's name on third base? What's on second?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not asking you who's on second, who's on first?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know he's on third? That I go back

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<v Speaker 7>on third again? But I can't change their names?

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<v Speaker 6>Will you please stay on third base?

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<v Speaker 7>Miss the blood Hurst? Now what is it? You want

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<v Speaker 6>What is the fellest name on third base? What is

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<v Speaker 6>the fellaw's name on second base? I'm not asking you

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<v Speaker 6>who's on second, who's on first?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know third base? You got an outfield post?

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, Saint Louis has gotta put out the absolutely the

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<v Speaker 7>Why?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know?

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<v Speaker 7>I just stood, I asked, well, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Just got I tell you, then tell me who's playing

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<v Speaker 6>left field?

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<v Speaker 7>Who is playing first? Stay out here your field?

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<v Speaker 1>How much?

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<v Speaker 7>Say the names out here? I want to know what's

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<v Speaker 7>the fellest name in left field? What is on second?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not asking you who's on second? Is on first?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know third base? I tell you take it easy, man,

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<v Speaker 7>and do that field his name?

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<v Speaker 5>Why?

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<v Speaker 6>Because oh he's center field? He said, will you pick

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<v Speaker 6>up your hat? Fees picking up your hat and stopped this.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, minute. You gotta pitch on a team.

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<v Speaker 6>Wouldn't this be a fine team without a picture?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know. Tell me the picture's name tomorrow. You

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<v Speaker 7>don't want to tell me to day. I'm telling your man,

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<v Speaker 7>and go ahead. Tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 1>What time?

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<v Speaker 7>What time? What? What time?

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<v Speaker 6>Tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 7>You're gonna tell me who's pitching, who is not pitching?

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<v Speaker 7>Who is a great?

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<v Speaker 6>Do you?

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<v Speaker 5>All round?

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<v Speaker 7>You say who's on? First?

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<v Speaker 6>Ye?

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<v Speaker 7>Come up here and ask. I want to know what's

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<v Speaker 7>the picture's name?

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<v Speaker 3>What's on?

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<v Speaker 8>Second? I know who is?

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<v Speaker 7>You Gotta catch it? Yes, catch his name today? Today,

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<v Speaker 7>and tomorrow's pitching. Now you've got it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all.

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<v Speaker 7>Saint Louis has got a couple of days on a team.

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<v Speaker 7>But I can help that, all right. What do you

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<v Speaker 7>want me to do? Gotta catcher? Yes, I'm a good

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<v Speaker 7>catcher too, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>I know that I would like to play for the

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<v Speaker 6>Saint Louis team, though I might range that I would

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<v Speaker 6>like to catch. Now I'm being a good catcher. Tomorrow's

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<v Speaker 6>pitching on the team, and I'm catching.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, camaraw throws the ball, and.

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<v Speaker 6>The guy up bunch the ball. Yes, now when he

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<v Speaker 6>to throw the guy out at first base. So I

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<v Speaker 6>pick up the ball and throw at the hole. Now

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<v Speaker 6>that's the first thing you've said, right, I don't even

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<v Speaker 6>know what.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm talking about. Well, that's all you have to do

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<v Speaker 7>is to throw out the first back. Now, who's got naturally?

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<v Speaker 7>Who has naturally? Naturally? Naturally? Okay?

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<v Speaker 6>You got?

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<v Speaker 7>I pick up the ball and I throw.

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<v Speaker 6>It the next right now you're don't you throw the

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<v Speaker 6>ball the first base?

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<v Speaker 7>Then who gets naturally? Okay, I throw a.

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<v Speaker 6>Ball the actually done? You throw it the whole naturally?

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<v Speaker 6>That's see it that way.

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<v Speaker 7>That's what I say. You did not.

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<v Speaker 6>I said, I throw the ball to naturally?

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<v Speaker 7>You don't you throw it to who naturally?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, So I throw the ball to the first base

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<v Speaker 6>and naturally gets Oh, you throw the ball the first

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<v Speaker 6>base and who gets naturally?

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<v Speaker 7>That's swear I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>You're not saying, excuse me, folks, all right, I'm sorry, Frank,

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<v Speaker 6>I throw the ball to throw the whole next stually

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<v Speaker 6>will say it that way.

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<v Speaker 7>I swear, I'm saying, get excited. Now, don't I throw

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<v Speaker 7>the ball at first base? And who gets it?

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<v Speaker 8>He ain't better get.

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<v Speaker 7>It all right, now, don't get excited take it either.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, I throw the ball at first base, whoever just

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<v Speaker 6>drops the ball for the guy runs a second who

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<v Speaker 6>picks up the ball and throws it the what what

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<v Speaker 6>flows it? I don't know, I don't know, throws it

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<v Speaker 6>back to tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 7>A triple playing.

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<v Speaker 6>It could be another guy gets something that's a low

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<v Speaker 6>flight ball to because why I don't know. He's on

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<v Speaker 6>third and I don't care, I said, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh that's our shortstop here.

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<v Speaker 1>Like practically everything, you can find it on YouTube. That's

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<v Speaker 1>courtesy Universal Television. And we'll come back and talk more

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<v Speaker 1>in save basketball in just a minute. Here are the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Balloon Sider six. Welcome back to the Big Bonsider.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining us now from up in Cincinnati is Richard Skinner

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<v Speaker 1>from Local twelve TV. We're gonna talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of reds here in a minute. It mangles with Skinny.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you don't cover as much maybe you

427
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<v Speaker 1>do cover as much basketball. We don't get to see

428
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<v Speaker 1>you down here as much. But what's been your take

429
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<v Speaker 1>from up down the interstate or up the interstate on

430
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<v Speaker 1>what's been happening with Kentucky basketball this year?

431
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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, for foods closure to serve. You know, I'm a

432
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<v Speaker 8>Kentucky greg nineteen eighty five. My wife is as well,

433
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<v Speaker 8>my youngest daughters as well. My only start to play

434
00:20:36.759 --> 00:20:41.000
<v Speaker 8>golf at NKU. She screwed up anyway. It's so yeah,

435
00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:44.519
<v Speaker 8>so I'm pretty vested in what happens. It's been fun.

436
00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:45.359
<v Speaker 6>It's been.

437
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<v Speaker 8>It's been strangely fun. And I see that with a

438
00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:51.200
<v Speaker 8>ten loss Kentucky team, right, you know, all those years

439
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<v Speaker 8>of handing of ten loss tugby and all that stuff,

440
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<v Speaker 8>and you know, it's it's just funny how things have

441
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<v Speaker 8>changed with ten losses being acceptible. And it is because

442
00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:02.640
<v Speaker 8>the sec before it shorter. I remember looking at it

443
00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:04.519
<v Speaker 8>and we all do this, right, You're like, that's a win,

444
00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:06.519
<v Speaker 8>that's a loss, that's a win, that's a loss, and

445
00:21:06.559 --> 00:21:08.880
<v Speaker 8>I that's I could come up with those twelve wins

446
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<v Speaker 8>at best in the best case scenario. You know, did

447
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<v Speaker 8>I expect him to lose to Georgia. No, But then

448
00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:17.400
<v Speaker 8>again I put it around for they might be Aubert

449
00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:21.000
<v Speaker 8>and home late year. So it's been. It's been strangely fun.

450
00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:23.920
<v Speaker 8>And right now though you're holding your breath just because

451
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<v Speaker 8>of how banged up they are. That's that's the problem.

452
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<v Speaker 6>Job.

453
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<v Speaker 8>I I love Laman Butler since I saw him play

454
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<v Speaker 8>at San Diego State. I think he's a great player.

455
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<v Speaker 9>And as a.

456
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<v Speaker 8>High school coach myself, he's the guy. Go, you give

457
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<v Speaker 8>me one guy to start a team with, I'm taking

458
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<v Speaker 8>that dude when he's healthy. And so you just got

459
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<v Speaker 8>to cross your fingers he gets his way through this

460
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<v Speaker 8>because you just don't know what that shoulder. When does

461
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<v Speaker 8>it pop out? When does it not pop out?

462
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And you know, I've talked to a couple of

463
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<v Speaker 1>people over the last few days about the fact that

464
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<v Speaker 1>clearly he is a terrific on ball defender, but that

465
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<v Speaker 1>enables teammates. You know, point guards make everybody better on offense.

466
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<v Speaker 1>But he also makes everybody better on defense, doesn't he?

467
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<v Speaker 8>Oh, no question, Because listen, if you can't get into

468
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<v Speaker 8>your actions the way you want to get into your actions,

469
00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:10.559
<v Speaker 8>especially with a shot clock, that's really difficult. If suddenly

470
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<v Speaker 8>you look up and you're at ten and some dude

471
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<v Speaker 8>who doesn't have a chance to do anything in isolation

472
00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:18.359
<v Speaker 8>situations has the ball in his hands, that offense is

473
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<v Speaker 8>messed up at that point, and that's what he does.

474
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<v Speaker 8>So well, he just he makes you run your offense

475
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<v Speaker 8>to the people that you don't want to run your

476
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<v Speaker 8>offense through. And to your point, yeah, he's great on

477
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<v Speaker 8>the offensive side. I think he was on the defensive side,

478
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<v Speaker 8>and that's where you just stats don't really measure that

479
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<v Speaker 8>a lot of times.

480
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<v Speaker 1>No, you're right, you know, And of course this is

481
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<v Speaker 1>I think a pressure situation. No one's really talking about

482
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<v Speaker 1>the fact that, you know, the naysayers when Pope was hired, Well,

483
00:22:43.799 --> 00:22:48.880
<v Speaker 1>he's never won an NCAA tournament game. Right now, especially

484
00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:51.160
<v Speaker 1>with this one, you've got to have mont Butler healthy

485
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<v Speaker 1>because Troy is a dangerous team and in order for

486
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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky to make Mark Pope a winner for the first

487
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<v Speaker 1>time in postseason, I think this is a tough point.

488
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<v Speaker 8>Yeah. I don't think there's dangerous as Oakland, and it's

489
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<v Speaker 8>easy to say that in retrospect, but NKU is in

490
00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:08.920
<v Speaker 8>their league. So I saw Open a couple of times.

491
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<v Speaker 8>I didn't see him in person, uh at Oakland, but

492
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<v Speaker 8>I saw him in person here in Northern Kentucky. Yeah,

493
00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:17.039
<v Speaker 8>and they were dangerous, I mean because they could shoot

494
00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:19.160
<v Speaker 8>the three right and not just the kids knocked all

495
00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:21.200
<v Speaker 8>the shots down last but they also had the townshen

496
00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:22.960
<v Speaker 8>kids who's now at Arizona as a starter on a

497
00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:25.559
<v Speaker 8>really good Arizona team. I mean they were good, So

498
00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:28.079
<v Speaker 8>they were dangerous. I don't think Troy is quite as dangerous.

499
00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:31.039
<v Speaker 8>They're they're they're they're numbers. Defensively, they only give up

500
00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:33.000
<v Speaker 8>sixty three points a game that they rank high and

501
00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:35.799
<v Speaker 8>fewest points allowed. But if you look at their defensive

502
00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:38.839
<v Speaker 8>metric from Ken Tom, it's not great. It's not awful.

503
00:23:38.920 --> 00:23:41.440
<v Speaker 8>I mean it's it's pretty good, and they're ninety eighth

504
00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:43.079
<v Speaker 8>overall in Ken Pom. And I just don't think there's

505
00:23:43.160 --> 00:23:46.720
<v Speaker 8>dangerous Oakland. But to your point, I mean right or wrong,

506
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<v Speaker 8>Mark doesn't have this hanging around his neck, the losing

507
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<v Speaker 8>of to a fourteen seed and losing to a Saint Peter's.

508
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<v Speaker 8>But to your point, he has a thing hanging around

509
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<v Speaker 8>his neck. Have never won an NCAA tournament game, But

510
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<v Speaker 8>I don't think those players feel that pressure. Mean what,

511
00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:04.079
<v Speaker 8>but's been to a Final four for to say, you know,

512
00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:06.119
<v Speaker 8>you got some dudes on that team that have done

513
00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:08.000
<v Speaker 8>been there, done that. Not a lot, but you have

514
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<v Speaker 8>some And so yeah, I just this game, last year's

515
00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:13.880
<v Speaker 8>game really it did as a fan and as a grad,

516
00:24:13.920 --> 00:24:16.279
<v Speaker 8>it scared me this game not quite as much. Now

517
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<v Speaker 8>you get to the next round, whether Xavier or Texas

518
00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:20.799
<v Speaker 8>or Xavier or Illinois, that scares me.

519
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no question. And Xavier coming back, I mean, you know,

520
00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:27.200
<v Speaker 1>there were people who wondered if Xavier would get in

521
00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:29.400
<v Speaker 1>and made the most and you could have made the

522
00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:32.480
<v Speaker 1>argument against Texas getting in, but of course had the

523
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<v Speaker 1>sec resume. But that was a wild one last night.

524
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<v Speaker 8>It was crazy. And I have a guy I do

525
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<v Speaker 8>a podcast with. He does another podcast with a kid

526
00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:46.400
<v Speaker 8>named Paul Fritcher and Paul Paul really knows his basketball.

527
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<v Speaker 8>And Paul does a separate podcast his own where he

528
00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:51.960
<v Speaker 8>talked to a guy from Texas I think for I

529
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<v Speaker 8>think he covers I think he's with on three and

530
00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:58.640
<v Speaker 8>covers Texas Texas sports, and he asked him about Texas's team.

531
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<v Speaker 8>He goes, man, there's just so talent. Is is ridiculous. He goes,

532
00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:03.640
<v Speaker 8>but it just reminds me literally of an AAU team

533
00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:05.759
<v Speaker 8>where he just rolled the balls out and go, And

534
00:25:05.799 --> 00:25:08.079
<v Speaker 8>that's kind of what it looked like in clenchtein. Yeah,

535
00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:10.079
<v Speaker 8>and that's why Xavier was able to come back and

536
00:25:10.440 --> 00:25:12.640
<v Speaker 8>beat them. I don't think Xavier's better than I think.

537
00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:16.599
<v Speaker 8>I think Texas is roster. You give me Texas's roster.

538
00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:18.839
<v Speaker 8>I ain't losing sixteen games of those guys. I'm just not.

539
00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:21.880
<v Speaker 8>They're really really good. But yeah, it was a crazy comeback.

540
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

541
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<v Speaker 8>The guy Jerome Hunter, who's really a low block big

542
00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:29.119
<v Speaker 8>four make three threes. John hug Lee who is huge,

543
00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:32.359
<v Speaker 8>who comes off their bench. He's seven foot like two

544
00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:35.079
<v Speaker 8>Hudred and seventy Kinds's just a monster. He makes a three.

545
00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:37.319
<v Speaker 8>I mean, guys who don't make shots and don't even

546
00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:40.160
<v Speaker 8>take those shots made those shots to help Xavier come back.

547
00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:43.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well it's all about obviously making shots, which loops

548
00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:47.559
<v Speaker 1>us back to Kentucky and Kobe Brea. I mean it

549
00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:50.480
<v Speaker 1>seems like as he goes so go to Wildcats. When

550
00:25:50.480 --> 00:25:53.000
<v Speaker 1>it comes to shooting. You knew about him when he

551
00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:56.279
<v Speaker 1>came to Kentucky and now he's playing defense. Well he

552
00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:59.319
<v Speaker 1>has to, But I do think that other than the

553
00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Mott Butler, he might be the key.

554
00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:04.519
<v Speaker 8>Yeah. It's weird because there's games where you look and

555
00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:06.400
<v Speaker 8>he gets it in spots where you think he's gonna

556
00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:08.319
<v Speaker 8>shoot it from and he should shoot it from and

557
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:10.440
<v Speaker 8>it just doesn't. And then there's games where he goes

558
00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:12.400
<v Speaker 8>for four or five threes, and those are the games

559
00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:16.200
<v Speaker 8>where Kentucky usually rolls. So hopefully he understands that, hey man,

560
00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:18.119
<v Speaker 8>your job is to shoot, and you're a good shooter,

561
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:19.640
<v Speaker 8>and you know what, it's okay if you miss one

562
00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:21.440
<v Speaker 8>or two because you're gonna make a bunch, but you

563
00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:24.799
<v Speaker 8>can't pass up shots. And yes, I wish I could

564
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:26.799
<v Speaker 8>go back and probably do that metrically and look at

565
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:29.279
<v Speaker 8>games where he didn't make a three or took you know,

566
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:31.680
<v Speaker 8>fewer than two or three threes and see if those

567
00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:34.440
<v Speaker 8>were losses they feel like they were. And maybe when

568
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:36.880
<v Speaker 8>Jackson Robinson was around, maybe you could get away with that.

569
00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:38.160
<v Speaker 8>You can't get away with that now. I mean, you

570
00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:39.400
<v Speaker 8>got to be the shooter. You're the guy.

571
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's amazing. If I had told you back in August,

572
00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:46.160
<v Speaker 1>all right, Mark Poe put his team together, but at

573
00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:48.799
<v Speaker 1>the time that they really need to be good down

574
00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:50.759
<v Speaker 1>the stretch, you're gonna be missing three of your top

575
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<v Speaker 1>four perimeter players.

576
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<v Speaker 10>Uh.

577
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<v Speaker 1>When you look at it that way, Skinny, it's just unbelievable.

578
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<v Speaker 8>Isn't it.

579
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<v Speaker 4>It is?

580
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<v Speaker 8>And I mean you know, the the Kentucky kids have

581
00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:05.240
<v Speaker 8>done really well. You know, Perry's done great. I think

582
00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:07.519
<v Speaker 8>Noah's going to be really really good eventually. You know,

583
00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:10.160
<v Speaker 8>he's he's he's what freshman used to be. He's like, oh,

584
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:12.200
<v Speaker 8>I can see it. It's not there yet, but it's coming.

585
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:15.319
<v Speaker 8>And Yeah, to that point, it was like, Okay, you're

586
00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:17.839
<v Speaker 8>taking Kentucky kids because they're Kentucky kids. Well, you know,

587
00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:20.519
<v Speaker 8>those guys have actually sailed you out at times this year.

588
00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:22.240
<v Speaker 8>They can play and they bailed you out at times.

589
00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:24.559
<v Speaker 8>And to your point, yeah, I would have never thought

590
00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:27.079
<v Speaker 8>when I looked at that roster and what he's had

591
00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:29.039
<v Speaker 8>to deal with injury wise, that they be where they are.

592
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:30.960
<v Speaker 8>It's pretty amazing.

593
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Colin Chandler might be the best of the three.

594
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<v Speaker 8>Right. No, that's you talk about scratching the surface. I

595
00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:37.920
<v Speaker 8>mean you talk about a guy he doesn't play for

596
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:39.599
<v Speaker 8>a couple years because of the mission trip and maybe

597
00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:41.720
<v Speaker 8>he got some shots up as he was, you know,

598
00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:43.880
<v Speaker 8>as he was doing his mission trip, but probably not

599
00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:45.960
<v Speaker 8>a lot of shots and not regularly, and then to

600
00:27:46.039 --> 00:27:49.400
<v Speaker 8>come in and play high level Division one basketball, that's

601
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:52.440
<v Speaker 8>a big ask. I mean there's times I watched games

602
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:54.400
<v Speaker 8>and my wife. I drive my life crazy because I

603
00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:56.839
<v Speaker 8>coached the game as it's going on, and there's times

604
00:27:56.839 --> 00:27:58.680
<v Speaker 8>I just yell at the TV get him out. He

605
00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:01.799
<v Speaker 8>can't play, and down the stretch you're like Cooley cow

606
00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:04.079
<v Speaker 8>This dude's got a chance to be pretty good. It's

607
00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:06.400
<v Speaker 8>not there yet, and I should be tased with him too.

608
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:08.359
<v Speaker 8>He was on a mission trip, man. Remember that at

609
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:10.119
<v Speaker 8>all times he hasn't played for two years.

610
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<v Speaker 1>Well, you actually coach the game and most coaches aren't patient,

611
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<v Speaker 1>So that's okay. Richard Skinner my guest from Local twelve

612
00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:18.799
<v Speaker 1>TV up in Cincinnati. We'll talk about the Bengals on

613
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<v Speaker 1>the other side of the break here on six thirty

614
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<v Speaker 1>WLAP Welcome back. Richard Skinner of Local twelve up in

615
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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati is my guest. We've talked about the basketball Cats.

616
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<v Speaker 1>Richard doesn't cover them regularly, so he can just sit

617
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:31.880
<v Speaker 1>back and be a fan of Root, but he does

618
00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:36.480
<v Speaker 1>cover the Cincinnati Bengals and Skinny half a billion dollars

619
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:40.039
<v Speaker 1>invested in three players. First of all, I never thought

620
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<v Speaker 1>i'd see today. Secondly, how do they plan on paying

621
00:28:43.480 --> 00:28:47.119
<v Speaker 1>for defense? Because they've got a leg up on offense. Man.

622
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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, they still need they still need probably an edge

623
00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:54.400
<v Speaker 8>rusher to go with Trey Hendrickson. And that's the most

624
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:56.559
<v Speaker 8>fluid thing of all is whether you know they can

625
00:28:56.599 --> 00:28:59.480
<v Speaker 8>extend Tray where that goes. Daneil Hunter got thirty five

626
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:03.039
<v Speaker 8>million dollars last night. Trey's a better player than Daniel Hunter.

627
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:06.880
<v Speaker 8>This is an interesting circumstance. I'll circle back to your

628
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:10.000
<v Speaker 8>offense here in a second. You know, Max Crosby got

629
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<v Speaker 8>thirty five milis on average Anye old value, and Trey

630
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:15.000
<v Speaker 8>Henderson's every bit is good, if not better. I can't

631
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<v Speaker 8>tell he's better than Miles Garrett, and Miles Garrett's on

632
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:19.359
<v Speaker 8>a plant done to himself. But Tray's production is darn

633
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.359
<v Speaker 8>close to Miles gear. So they let Trey try to

634
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:25.160
<v Speaker 8>seek a trade, and Trey found a couple of teams

635
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:26.799
<v Speaker 8>that were willing to pay him what he wanted, but

636
00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:28.759
<v Speaker 8>they weren't willing to give the Bengals what they wanted.

637
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:30.640
<v Speaker 8>And I don't blame the Bengals. I'm not giving Trey

638
00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:33.960
<v Speaker 8>Hendrickson away. He is under contract this year. He's way

639
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:37.039
<v Speaker 8>underpaid this year, but he's under contract. And so now

640
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:40.440
<v Speaker 8>they're back at the bargaining table. Can you get an

641
00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:42.200
<v Speaker 8>extension done? I don't think you can get it done

642
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:44.960
<v Speaker 8>in Max Crosby Daniel Hunter thirty five million dollar range.

643
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:46.000
<v Speaker 8>I don't even know if you can get it north

644
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:48.480
<v Speaker 8>to thirty million dollars if you're the Bengals. So is

645
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:50.680
<v Speaker 8>Trey willing to take an extension for just to shade

646
00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:53.000
<v Speaker 8>under thirty million dollars. That's where we're at with this.

647
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:55.000
<v Speaker 8>And if he doesn't, and if they don't, and I

648
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:56.839
<v Speaker 8>don't blame him for asking what he's gonna ask for.

649
00:29:57.119 --> 00:29:59.599
<v Speaker 8>I don't blame the Bengals for saying thanks, but no thanks,

650
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:03.599
<v Speaker 8>you're under contract. It'll be fascinating to see what he does.

651
00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:06.640
<v Speaker 8>I mean, they took a huge distraction away by signing

652
00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:09.119
<v Speaker 8>t Higgins and Jamars, and I always thought they'd get

653
00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:12.160
<v Speaker 8>Jamar done. I wasn't so sure about Tea. I thought

654
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:14.920
<v Speaker 8>a t went north to thirty million dollars, the Bengals

655
00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:18.000
<v Speaker 8>would walk. If the Bengals went under twenty seven million dollars,

656
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:20.079
<v Speaker 8>Tea would balk. And they went about twenty eight and

657
00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:22.559
<v Speaker 8>change and it worked out well for both. And Jamar

658
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:25.279
<v Speaker 8>helped with that. Where they have the same agent and

659
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:27.880
<v Speaker 8>the agent basically said, Jamar's not signing if you ain't

660
00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:29.519
<v Speaker 8>signing him, and so it worked just kind of a

661
00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:32.119
<v Speaker 8>packaged deal. But to your point on the defense, I

662
00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:34.880
<v Speaker 8>mean they need another edge rusher they could use. They got.

663
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:38.839
<v Speaker 8>They signed a defensive tackle from Green Bay, T J. Slayton,

664
00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:41.039
<v Speaker 8>and he's a good run stopper, but they don't have

665
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:43.680
<v Speaker 8>much pass rush juice inside. They re signed DJ Hill.

666
00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:47.200
<v Speaker 8>They probably will draft one by the end of Day two,

667
00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:49.759
<v Speaker 8>maybe even in the first round. Same for edge rusher.

668
00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:52.440
<v Speaker 8>But you know, they need a linebacker. They're probably gonna

669
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:54.519
<v Speaker 8>cut Jermaine Pratt, who was a starter. They signed Orrin

670
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:57.680
<v Speaker 8>Burks from Philly who's more of a third linebacker, backup

671
00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:00.559
<v Speaker 8>world guy. They could use some help. Still, it's safe.

672
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:03.359
<v Speaker 8>So yeah, there's some pieces on defense that don't fit.

673
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:05.720
<v Speaker 8>But I will say this, I mean, they lost a

674
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:08.000
<v Speaker 8>lot of wonky games last year by one score, and

675
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:10.119
<v Speaker 8>some of it was defense related, no question. I mean

676
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:12.559
<v Speaker 8>the defense didn't get done, but the offense also didn't

677
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:13.920
<v Speaker 8>get it done a couple of times where they could

678
00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:16.400
<v Speaker 8>have closed out a game, get a couple of first down,

679
00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:18.359
<v Speaker 8>take it down the field of score. And that sounds

680
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:20.839
<v Speaker 8>odd because the offense was great last season. I mean

681
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:23.279
<v Speaker 8>they lost five games when they scored thirty three points

682
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:25.240
<v Speaker 8>or more. That doesn't happen in the NFL. He lose

683
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:29.200
<v Speaker 8>one or two, you don't lose five. So yeah, defensively,

684
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:31.720
<v Speaker 8>they still need help. I think they really believe Alan

685
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:34.079
<v Speaker 8>Golden will be a difference maker ors defensive coordator. Overt

686
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:36.680
<v Speaker 8>loui Anarumo. I'm not so sure, and this is not

687
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:38.240
<v Speaker 8>a knock on out. I think Lou was a really

688
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:40.640
<v Speaker 8>good coach. I think he got scapegoaded. It's part of

689
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:43.720
<v Speaker 8>the business, right, I Mean, when teams go sideways, somebody

690
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:46.279
<v Speaker 8>pays the price. In this case, Lou Anarumo paid the price.

691
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:49.640
<v Speaker 8>But I think they're really banking on how's the difference maker? Well,

692
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:51.279
<v Speaker 8>you better hope he is right now. Based on what

693
00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:52.359
<v Speaker 8>you got on paper.

694
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Lou was one of the hot coaches in the country

695
00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:56.559
<v Speaker 1>for a while. Yeah, and then the next thing, you know,

696
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>like you said, he was catching all the blame. We're

697
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>talking to Richard Skinn Local twelve TV up in Cincinnati.

698
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:07.160
<v Speaker 1>The Bengals have spent a ton of money and now Skinny, uh,

699
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>it's it's gonna be. There's always pressure, but now the

700
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:14.279
<v Speaker 1>pressure to produce is different than any that this franchise

701
00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:16.960
<v Speaker 1>has ever encountered because of the money they're spending.

702
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:21.079
<v Speaker 8>Am I right, yeah, no question, And talking about on

703
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:23.200
<v Speaker 8>my podcast the other day, and my podcast partner kind

704
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.279
<v Speaker 8>of hosts it, and you know, we have a nice conversation.

705
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:28.480
<v Speaker 8>But he said, he goes, He asked, you know, how's

706
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:30.240
<v Speaker 8>Joe Burrow hail this pressure? And I kind of looked

707
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:32.440
<v Speaker 8>at him sideways as we do on YouTube. You don't

708
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:34.359
<v Speaker 8>think Joe Burrow hasn't handled this kind of pressure before.

709
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:37.319
<v Speaker 8>It's all Joe Burrow does is handle pressure. Yeah, he's

710
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:39.319
<v Speaker 8>really good at that. But I will say to your

711
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:41.680
<v Speaker 8>point on pressure, it now really falls on Zach Tam

712
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:44.920
<v Speaker 8>I think exactly a good coach. I too, I think

713
00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:47.160
<v Speaker 8>he's a really good coach. People you know in this

714
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:51.599
<v Speaker 8>marketplace are a lot of times anti Zach because they

715
00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:53.720
<v Speaker 8>feel like, hey, you should lose ever with Joe Burrow

716
00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:57.119
<v Speaker 8>as your quarterback. But uh, there's another admit, Like I said,

717
00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:01.240
<v Speaker 8>the defense and all that, but you know this is

718
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:04.559
<v Speaker 8>this is probably a make or break playoff here for Zach.

719
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:06.240
<v Speaker 8>You went to a super Bowl, you went to an

720
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:08.640
<v Speaker 8>AFC championship game, and you missed the playoffs two straight

721
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:12.319
<v Speaker 8>years with the healthy Joe Burrow. And so you know

722
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.000
<v Speaker 8>you fired a defensive coordinator that's allowed you know that

723
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.200
<v Speaker 8>that's that's the fall guy for right now. Guess where

724
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:19.759
<v Speaker 8>the next fall guy is. It's you, And that's where

725
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:20.559
<v Speaker 8>the pressure will come in.

726
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:25.799
<v Speaker 1>That is very true, and it just there's nothing like it, man,

727
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the pressure on the quarterback in the NFL, the head coach, uh,

728
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, not college. That's a different story, but it's

729
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>off the charge. Yes, yes, But yeah, before I let

730
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>you go, I got to ask you about the Reds.

731
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:39.200
<v Speaker 6>Uh.

732
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:41.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love the hiring you and I talked about

733
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:44.759
<v Speaker 1>it after they hired Tito. But the moves he's made,

734
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>including you know, basically telling his star player, you know

735
00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:50.359
<v Speaker 1>it's my way. We're not gonna screw it. We're not

736
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>screwing around anymore. Uh. And and I got to think

737
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>that Reds fans, I don't know, you know better than

738
00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:59.559
<v Speaker 1>I do. Are are there expectations a little too lofty

739
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:02.319
<v Speaker 1>now with the managing change, because that's something else in

740
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:03.799
<v Speaker 1>sports that never changes.

741
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:07.480
<v Speaker 8>I don't think they are. And granted you can argue,

742
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:09.519
<v Speaker 8>you know, you didn't do a lot to add to

743
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:12.079
<v Speaker 8>the roster, right. But the but but the part of

744
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:14.119
<v Speaker 8>where they're where they've been over the last couple of

745
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:20.119
<v Speaker 8>years is you're anticipating and you can't expect, but anticipating

746
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:23.119
<v Speaker 8>that your young players blossom. Ellie Day La Cruz has

747
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:25.599
<v Speaker 8>blossomed well. Matt McClean didn't play last year, and I

748
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:29.559
<v Speaker 8>could argue Matt McLean's every bit as important as Eli

749
00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:31.800
<v Speaker 8>Da La Cruz. Now, Ellie's a unicorn in a lot

750
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:34.079
<v Speaker 8>of ways. But Matt McLean is a really good player

751
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:37.119
<v Speaker 8>all around. I mean, he's a forty double ten, triple

752
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:40.000
<v Speaker 8>twenty homer, top of the lineup, guy that's gonna score

753
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:41.639
<v Speaker 8>you one hundred and ten runs when he's healthy and

754
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:44.280
<v Speaker 8>play a really good second base. They really believe in

755
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:46.679
<v Speaker 8>Christian I do too, and Christian in GROSSI on strand

756
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:49.079
<v Speaker 8>if you look at his number from college that the miners,

757
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:52.239
<v Speaker 8>when he came up in twenty twenty three and raked

758
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:53.559
<v Speaker 8>at the end of the year, and then last year

759
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:55.280
<v Speaker 8>he's dealing with a rist issue and you know he

760
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:57.079
<v Speaker 8>didn't get early on everybody's want to rhyme, and you

761
00:34:57.079 --> 00:34:59.199
<v Speaker 8>find out what he's basically playing with a broken risk.

762
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:02.679
<v Speaker 8>And so while they didn't add to the roster. Primary

763
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:04.519
<v Speaker 8>they did add Austin Hayes, who was an All Star

764
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:06.840
<v Speaker 8>in twenty twenty three with Baltimore and been played hurt

765
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:09.599
<v Speaker 8>last year with Philly and Baltimore, and he's had a

766
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:13.920
<v Speaker 8>pretty good spring. I think this whole rebuild has always been, Hey,

767
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:16.800
<v Speaker 8>weren't counting on these young guys, and so I think

768
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:18.559
<v Speaker 8>this is the year to find out are they for

769
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:21.360
<v Speaker 8>real or not? And I do think the pitching staff

770
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:24.760
<v Speaker 8>is for real. Hunter Green is a dude. Nick Widolo

771
00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:27.000
<v Speaker 8>when he's healthy, I'm not so sure he's not better

772
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:28.800
<v Speaker 8>than Hunter Ding when he's healthy. Now he hasn't been

773
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:32.360
<v Speaker 8>very healthy. That's a problem. Andrew Abbott just came back

774
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:35.079
<v Speaker 8>into the other day, so he's back. They won't have

775
00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:37.559
<v Speaker 8>Red Louder probably to start the season. He's a first

776
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:39.079
<v Speaker 8>round draft pick in twenty twenty three out of way

777
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:41.440
<v Speaker 8>for us. But he's a guy Chase Burns into miners,

778
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:43.320
<v Speaker 8>isn't guy. I mean, they've got a bunch of good

779
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:45.719
<v Speaker 8>young arms, and so they do this I think the

780
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:48.360
<v Speaker 8>right way. Now you're just going, Okay, we like what

781
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:50.400
<v Speaker 8>we got, Let's see these guys blossom. And I think

782
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:52.320
<v Speaker 8>that's where this year is is let's see what you got.

783
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:54.159
<v Speaker 8>And I know people probably don't want to hear that

784
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:56.199
<v Speaker 8>because I know there's Reds fans in your area too,

785
00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:58.559
<v Speaker 8>But I think that's where this rebuild has always been.

786
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:00.800
<v Speaker 8>It hasn't been spen spen spin. It's been and see,

787
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:03.079
<v Speaker 8>we got the young guys and then okay, maybe you

788
00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:04.760
<v Speaker 8>spend or you have to figure out a way to

789
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:06.320
<v Speaker 8>replace before.

790
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.719
<v Speaker 1>I let you go. It bothers me every year no

791
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:12.719
<v Speaker 1>end that baseball no longer opens in Cincinnati and baseball

792
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:15.679
<v Speaker 1>is the game of tradition. How do people up there

793
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:17.480
<v Speaker 1>feel about it? Are they over it? Or does it

794
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:19.280
<v Speaker 1>bug them every year? Yeah?

795
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:20.800
<v Speaker 8>I know I think they're over It's funny you say

796
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:22.519
<v Speaker 8>that because I thought about that the other day when

797
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:24.360
<v Speaker 8>I woke up at five to forty five am to

798
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:27.519
<v Speaker 8>watch the Cubs Dodgers myself, I'm like, I gotta I

799
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:29.039
<v Speaker 8>gotta see the first game of the year. It was

800
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:32.639
<v Speaker 8>pretty awesome. I mean, based on Joe Hey and the

801
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:34.360
<v Speaker 8>pitchers and I think it was a five or six

802
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:37.159
<v Speaker 8>Japanese players in that game for both teams that went back.

803
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:39.760
<v Speaker 8>They thought it was actually pretty cool. And yeah, what

804
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:42.760
<v Speaker 8>I like to say you still be the opening game, sure,

805
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:44.880
<v Speaker 8>but they still let them open at home every year.

806
00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:47.800
<v Speaker 8>I think that's still a big deal. Everybody now opens

807
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:50.079
<v Speaker 8>basically on the same day other than that early series

808
00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:53.000
<v Speaker 8>when they play an international game. And to your point,

809
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:55.079
<v Speaker 8>I do I think people are over it. I think

810
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:57.039
<v Speaker 8>it was a It was It was one of those

811
00:36:57.039 --> 00:36:59.760
<v Speaker 8>ones that everybody was kicked for a while and then

812
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:02.199
<v Speaker 8>you know, time passes, you are okay, You're still opening

813
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:04.440
<v Speaker 8>at home. Philly Market Parade is still a big deal.

814
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:06.039
<v Speaker 8>Opening Gay is still a big deal. Whether you go

815
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:07.960
<v Speaker 8>to the game or not. It's still a holiday in Cincinnati,

816
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:10.719
<v Speaker 8>and everybody take treat it as such. So yeah, I

817
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:12.039
<v Speaker 8>think people have gotten over that.

818
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>As long as it's still a holiday in Cincinnati. That

819
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:17.440
<v Speaker 1>that makes me feel better. And you know, I'm more

820
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:19.199
<v Speaker 1>of a Cardinals fan than a Reds fan, but I

821
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:23.159
<v Speaker 1>do the Reds and uh I oh man, and not

822
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:25.920
<v Speaker 1>just not opening in Cincinnati but opening on the other

823
00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:29.320
<v Speaker 1>side of the world. But I know a lot of

824
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:32.719
<v Speaker 1>people got up and watched, you know. But anyhow, we

825
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:34.920
<v Speaker 1>need to we need to get over things like that,

826
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I suppose, but it's just hard sometimes. By the way,

827
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:41.199
<v Speaker 1>I didn't ask you who do you have winning winning

828
00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:43.360
<v Speaker 1>this thing? Could you go chalk in the final four?

829
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:50.119
<v Speaker 8>I did to some degree. I got Wisconsin, Houston, Michigan State,

830
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.880
<v Speaker 8>and Florida, and I got Florida winning it all to

831
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:55.480
<v Speaker 8>all burned down the stretch just flummexed me because man,

832
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:58.760
<v Speaker 8>when they played Kentucky on that Saturday, I thought they

833
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:01.599
<v Speaker 8>were unbeatable. I really did. And then I get, you know,

834
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:03.760
<v Speaker 8>a couple of the losses, like you clinched the conference

835
00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:05.880
<v Speaker 8>by then, and they lost the next game, and they lost

836
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:07.400
<v Speaker 8>Alabama on the last second shot.

837
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:07.960
<v Speaker 9>That happens.

838
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:10.360
<v Speaker 8>But then the SEC tournam I didn't think they looked great.

839
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<v Speaker 8>Ok So they kind of me me scratching my head

840
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:16.800
<v Speaker 8>a little bit. I do think Saint John's is great.

841
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:18.960
<v Speaker 8>The probut for Saint John's is, if you go by

842
00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:22.800
<v Speaker 8>Ken Palm Metrics, the last whatever twenty five national champs

843
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<v Speaker 8>have been top forty offense, top twenty five, and defense,

844
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<v Speaker 8>well they're number one defense, They're sixty fis in offense.

845
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<v Speaker 8>But I also have Rick Patino. When I can scratch

846
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<v Speaker 8>that out and go, I mean, they got Rich pet

847
00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:35.679
<v Speaker 8>He's the best coaching college basketball history in my opinion.

848
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<v Speaker 8>Oh so you have to factor that into it.

849
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:43.440
<v Speaker 1>That series has been great with Bettino. That series. I've

850
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:46.039
<v Speaker 1>loved every minute of it. Hey, Skinny, thank you so much.

851
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:49.599
<v Speaker 1>Local twelve Richard Skinner, he is a guy you need

852
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:51.800
<v Speaker 1>to follow on ex or Twitter or whatever. Thank you

853
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:53.119
<v Speaker 1>so much, have a great turn on you.

854
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<v Speaker 8>But thanks take care.

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<v Speaker 1>I re Number two is next, starting with Darren Hedrick

856
00:38:57.039 --> 00:38:59.159
<v Speaker 1>on six thirty wlap.

857
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<v Speaker 5>Everything anything, any such tact taking the.

858
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<v Speaker 11>Showing anything, do anything, welcome back.

859
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<v Speaker 1>Joining us now on the celebrity headline is mister Darren Headrick,

860
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:02.519
<v Speaker 1>radio voice of UK women's Wildcat basketball team and the

861
00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:06.400
<v Speaker 1>baseball Cats. This is a busy time of year for Darren.

862
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:09.039
<v Speaker 1>Let me start with basketball, Darren, how about Kenny Brooks

863
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:10.679
<v Speaker 1>Coach of the year. That's not too shabby.

864
00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:15.159
<v Speaker 10>Oh, you talk about a man that deserves it. It's

865
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:18.320
<v Speaker 10>funny to think that he's been named national coach of

866
00:41:18.320 --> 00:41:23.039
<v Speaker 10>the Year by two different mediums and yet he was

867
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:25.400
<v Speaker 10>not the coach of the year in the SEC that

868
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:28.480
<v Speaker 10>with the Vick Schaefer of Texas. So but what a

869
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:31.880
<v Speaker 10>job he's done rebuilding this program. You know, he only

870
00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:34.159
<v Speaker 10>had a couple of months to put that roster together

871
00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:38.320
<v Speaker 10>and to see what they've pulled off, and hosting an

872
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:42.239
<v Speaker 10>NCAA tournament first two rounds just a phenomenal effort. And

873
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:45.480
<v Speaker 10>it has been such a pleasure working with him and

874
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:47.400
<v Speaker 10>so proud and excited for him.

875
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I know you're a little bit biased, but is his

876
00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:53.519
<v Speaker 1>team playing its best basketball when it needs to the most?

877
00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:57.239
<v Speaker 9>You know what, I have to think they are.

878
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:01.760
<v Speaker 10>You'd like to see a little more production from Amelia Hassett.

879
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:04.360
<v Speaker 10>I'd like to see her her shot a little more,

880
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:07.280
<v Speaker 10>but you Dejah Lawrence is such a threat from beyond

881
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:11.280
<v Speaker 10>the arc. Keanni Key brings the energy and the physicality,

882
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:15.119
<v Speaker 10>and uh strack and and Amore certainly have turned their

883
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:18.440
<v Speaker 10>games up to another level. I really like where this

884
00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:21.400
<v Speaker 10>team is, and they made it through the grind and

885
00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:24.480
<v Speaker 10>and grueling sec and I think they're going to be

886
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:28.159
<v Speaker 10>refreshed and excited when they hit the floor tomorrow against

887
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:30.239
<v Speaker 10>UH against Liberty.

888
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:33.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is in historic Memorial Coliseum. We'll have it

889
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:36.639
<v Speaker 1>for you right here. But UH, you can still I

890
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:39.800
<v Speaker 1>think you can still get a ticket if if you hustle.

891
00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:44.519
<v Speaker 1>But the uh, the the making of shots is everything.

892
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:46.320
<v Speaker 1>As we found out last night in the men's term

893
00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:50.519
<v Speaker 1>a Xavier got hot against Texas, but uh boy, Georgia

894
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:54.559
<v Speaker 1>amore second team All American man when when she's knocking

895
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:57.239
<v Speaker 1>down shots, is one of the coaches that that uh

896
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.519
<v Speaker 1>may face it, She'll he'll, She'll keep you up at night,

897
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:04.679
<v Speaker 1>night after night. She has been so much fun to watch.

898
00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:07.320
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, no question about it.

899
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:09.840
<v Speaker 10>She really is the heart and soul of this team.

900
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:13.599
<v Speaker 10>And you know, I've heard him describe tianni key is

901
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:17.360
<v Speaker 10>that a role similar to the glue as sug plann

902
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:19.920
<v Speaker 10>as we like to call him. But George is the

903
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:23.079
<v Speaker 10>heart and soul and when she's making shots, it just

904
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:25.519
<v Speaker 10>opens up the floor to so many things. And it's

905
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:30.199
<v Speaker 10>why she's, you know, eleven dimes away from setting a

906
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:33.800
<v Speaker 10>new program record for assists that has stood for over

907
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:36.960
<v Speaker 10>forty years now going back to Patti Joe Hedges and

908
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:40.039
<v Speaker 10>just a phenomenal talent. She's going to play in the

909
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:43.079
<v Speaker 10>w when she's done in Kentucky and with her college career,

910
00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:47.599
<v Speaker 10>and it has been just an absolute pleasure to watch her.

911
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:49.840
<v Speaker 10>She if you were paying to come see the cat,

912
00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:51.159
<v Speaker 10>she's worth every penny.

913
00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:54.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, you mentioned Tiani And as far as frontline players go,

914
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:58.280
<v Speaker 1>of course, Kentucky block shots like nobody's business. But man,

915
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:00.760
<v Speaker 1>I just love the way Key sticks from there and

916
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:03.519
<v Speaker 1>just battles. Yeah, I would love to see a little

917
00:44:03.559 --> 00:44:05.400
<v Speaker 1>bit more of that from some of the other kids,

918
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:07.880
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like when Towany's not on the floor,

919
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:10.000
<v Speaker 1>they really lose so much of that. Do you see

920
00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:10.719
<v Speaker 1>it the same way.

921
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:14.719
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, she's a lot of the energy. She brings so

922
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:19.039
<v Speaker 10>much to the table, and I'm like you, I love

923
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:21.880
<v Speaker 10>the way she gets in there in battles. The biggest

924
00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:25.000
<v Speaker 10>thing that she's trying to learn right now is to

925
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:30.880
<v Speaker 10>keep that same energy and that same level of physicality

926
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:33.559
<v Speaker 10>but defending and playing without fouling.

927
00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:35.280
<v Speaker 9>Because they need her on the floor.

928
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:36.280
<v Speaker 4>They have to have her.

929
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:38.760
<v Speaker 9>She just makes them different. She's able to bring the

930
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:41.280
<v Speaker 9>ball up the floor, She's able.

931
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:45.079
<v Speaker 10>To block shots like Clara Strack, and obviously she's a

932
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:48.880
<v Speaker 10>tenacious rebounder and scorer, and so yeah, they've got to

933
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:51.679
<v Speaker 10>have her on the court. And you know, she's been

934
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:55.320
<v Speaker 10>doing better down the stretch with limiting the fouls, but

935
00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:59.039
<v Speaker 10>against Oklahoma and the SEC tournament that reared its head again,

936
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:01.679
<v Speaker 10>and so she's she's got to continue to improve in

937
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:02.639
<v Speaker 10>that area well.

938
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:05.480
<v Speaker 1>And Mark Polk talked about this, and it holds true

939
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:08.559
<v Speaker 1>in a women's tournament too. You've got officials who have

940
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:11.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, worked all year and then probably deserve to

941
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:14.719
<v Speaker 1>be working NCA tournament, but they haven't seen your team play.

942
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:17.800
<v Speaker 1>And you know, and again there's no such thing as

943
00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:21.800
<v Speaker 1>SEC referees or this conference referees, right, but they come

944
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:24.679
<v Speaker 1>from you know, different parts of the country, and a

945
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:27.079
<v Speaker 1>foul you know over here might not be a foul

946
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:30.079
<v Speaker 1>over there. So they really got to work at adjusting.

947
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:31.719
<v Speaker 1>The players have to adjust, don't they.

948
00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:36.599
<v Speaker 10>I think that's the one x factor that worries all

949
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:40.360
<v Speaker 10>coaches because you're coming out of a league that is

950
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:46.719
<v Speaker 10>known for its physicality. It's just like you know, bowling ball, football,

951
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:49.760
<v Speaker 10>rugby style basketball and the s SEC, and you go

952
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:53.599
<v Speaker 10>to some of these other conferences, like the ACC, it's different.

953
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:56.360
<v Speaker 9>It's more what I would.

954
00:45:56.199 --> 00:46:00.679
<v Speaker 10>Describe as maybe pretty basketball finite instead of the physics. Yeah,

955
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:05.159
<v Speaker 10>it's finesse, and not to say it's not as good,

956
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:08.559
<v Speaker 10>it's just a different style. And yeah, I think that's

957
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:11.559
<v Speaker 10>one thing that might serve Coach Brooks's teams well, as

958
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:16.519
<v Speaker 10>he does play more of an ACC style and they've

959
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:19.239
<v Speaker 10>had to adapt to the physicality in the SEC. But

960
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:23.679
<v Speaker 10>you know, I remember back in twenty twenty two when

961
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:26.920
<v Speaker 10>they won the SEC tournament and then they got upset

962
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:31.880
<v Speaker 10>by Princeton and the NCAA tournament in Bloomington. They were

963
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:35.480
<v Speaker 10>frustrated by the whistle because they were guarding physically and

964
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:38.239
<v Speaker 10>the officials wouldn't let him do that against Princeton, and

965
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:41.519
<v Speaker 10>they got in some foul trouble. And you know, you

966
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:43.800
<v Speaker 10>just have to be able to contain the emotions and

967
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:47.119
<v Speaker 10>like coach says, you have to adapt to the flow

968
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:48.320
<v Speaker 10>of the game.

969
00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And you mentioned Hassett as well. And when she's on,

970
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, she gives them that extra threat from the outside.

971
00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:57.320
<v Speaker 1>She's not afraid to get in there and mix it

972
00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:00.480
<v Speaker 1>up either. But she has been a little bit up

973
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:01.239
<v Speaker 1>and down, hasn't she.

974
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:05.159
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, And she was playing out a position this year

975
00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:08.039
<v Speaker 10>and it's out of necessity because of the injuries to

976
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:12.400
<v Speaker 10>Parova and Obie. But she is somebody that's not afraid

977
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:14.880
<v Speaker 10>to get in there and mix it up. But like

978
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:16.880
<v Speaker 10>you know, we've talked about, we'd like to see her

979
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:19.559
<v Speaker 10>get those three point shots off a little more consistently

980
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:23.000
<v Speaker 10>and make those because it just opens up everything when

981
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:24.800
<v Speaker 10>they have to come out and guard her too. But

982
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:27.440
<v Speaker 10>you know, the one thing about Amelia that gets kind

983
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:29.880
<v Speaker 10>of lost, Dick is her ability to rebound. Oh yeah,

984
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:33.960
<v Speaker 10>she just finds the basketball and that's gonna be key

985
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:36.880
<v Speaker 10>against Liberty because Liberty is twenty three and oh this

986
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:40.039
<v Speaker 10>year when they out rebound your opponent or their opponent, wow,

987
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:43.519
<v Speaker 10>So Kentucky has got to crash the boards and take

988
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:45.719
<v Speaker 10>care of business on the glass in this matchup.

989
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:50.519
<v Speaker 1>Hats It is deceptively tall. I'm not sure how long

990
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:54.880
<v Speaker 1>she is, because next to stract, nobody's long. But when

991
00:47:54.920 --> 00:47:57.679
<v Speaker 1>you interview Hassen and you have done coach, you're usually

992
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:00.840
<v Speaker 1>sitting and you're a tall guy. But when you see

993
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Hasset in among the other players, she's kind of deceptively big,

994
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:08.039
<v Speaker 1>isn't she? She is?

995
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:09.679
<v Speaker 9>You know, it's kind of funny.

996
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:12.239
<v Speaker 10>I was telling a friend of mine not long ago,

997
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:17.159
<v Speaker 10>I'm used to feeling small around the baseball team because

998
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:21.239
<v Speaker 10>Nick MinJe On typically has pitchers that are six four

999
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:26.239
<v Speaker 10>six' five and. Higher and but with this women's, team you,

1000
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:29.559
<v Speaker 10>know you go up and talk To silva Or shack

1001
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:33.360
<v Speaker 10>Or key Or, Hassett i'm looking up at him When

1002
00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:36.480
<v Speaker 10>i'm talking to, him and that's that's you, know that's

1003
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:38.360
<v Speaker 10>part of the reason why they've been so good this.

1004
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:41.519
<v Speaker 10>Year it's that wise and it plays and it's why

1005
00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:42.440
<v Speaker 10>they've blocked so many.

1006
00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Shots anything else we should know About.

1007
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:50.000
<v Speaker 10>Liberty liberty is going to shoot three. Pointers they've got

1008
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:53.559
<v Speaker 10>three players that have made at least forty threes this.

1009
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:57.559
<v Speaker 10>Year their star, player, though is going to be a

1010
00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:02.119
<v Speaker 10>great matchup For clara Strak. Bella smuda is a six

1011
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:05.679
<v Speaker 10>to six red shirt. Senior she's their leading, scorer leading.

1012
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:09.719
<v Speaker 10>Rebounder she was The CONFERENCE Usa most Valuable player in the,

1013
00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:13.559
<v Speaker 10>tournament and she was the first team selection out OF.

1014
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:16.800
<v Speaker 10>Cusa so it's going to be interesting to see the

1015
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:21.320
<v Speaker 10>challenge there Of strack Against, smoota because The liberty is

1016
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:23.639
<v Speaker 10>going to shoot threes and then try to work the

1017
00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:27.000
<v Speaker 10>ball inside The. Smootha So kentucky's going to have to

1018
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:28.679
<v Speaker 10>face a balanced attack against The.

1019
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Flames noon tip, tomorrow eleven forty five, pregame, right.

1020
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:36.280
<v Speaker 10>That's, right we'll be on an eleven forty. Five we'll

1021
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:39.559
<v Speaker 10>chat with Coach brooks and we'll get this party started.

1022
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow all, right let's talk in baseball on the other

1023
00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:44.960
<v Speaker 1>side of the break here on six THIRTY Wlap Welcome.

1024
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:47.119
<v Speaker 1>Back we're talking With Darren, hedrick radio voice of THE

1025
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:51.320
<v Speaker 1>uk women's basketball team and the Baseball. Wildcats they've got

1026
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:53.480
<v Speaker 1>a big. Series they're all big now in THE, sec

1027
00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:55.880
<v Speaker 1>as we all. Know But auburn coming to. Town it's

1028
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:58.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna be weird seeing The auburn basketball, fans a lot

1029
00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:02.079
<v Speaker 1>of Them i'm sure can't up for, hoops going to

1030
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:04.880
<v Speaker 1>make their way over to the. Ballpark but coming off

1031
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:08.719
<v Speaker 1>a weird loss To Murray, state and it's happened once

1032
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:11.599
<v Speaker 1>in a while With nick Min jones, teams but that

1033
00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:13.199
<v Speaker 1>was a head. SCRATCHER i think we'll all.

1034
00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:18.000
<v Speaker 10>Agree, Yeah AND i think it was not so much

1035
00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:21.199
<v Speaker 10>that they lost To Murray state because LET'S i, mean you,

1036
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:23.320
<v Speaker 10>know tip your cap to The. Racers that's a good

1037
00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:27.159
<v Speaker 10>program Under Dan. Skirka they won thirty seven games last.

1038
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:29.480
<v Speaker 10>Year THEY i think it's been thirty wins or more

1039
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:32.679
<v Speaker 10>in four straight. Seasons so that's a good. Program so

1040
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:35.119
<v Speaker 10>it wasn't so much the loss to The racers on

1041
00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:36.119
<v Speaker 10>A tuesday.

1042
00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:40.519
<v Speaker 9>Night but it was how they. Lost, yeah just you,

1043
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:43.800
<v Speaker 9>know mental mistakes and we are so used to.

1044
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:49.360
<v Speaker 10>Seeing nick Min jones teams play fundamentally sound. Baseball you

1045
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:54.480
<v Speaker 10>had to Beat kentucky in prior years under coach benjeone

1046
00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:57.840
<v Speaker 10>because they didn't beat. Themselves and you, know you look

1047
00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:01.320
<v Speaker 10>Back tuesday, nine and it WAS i think there were nine.

1048
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:05.920
<v Speaker 10>Strikeouts six of them were. Looking pitchers were struggling to

1049
00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:08.360
<v Speaker 10>finish at bats when they got the two, strikes and

1050
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:11.519
<v Speaker 10>then the base. Running so you, know you just look

1051
00:51:11.599 --> 00:51:13.639
<v Speaker 10>at some facets of the game that we're used to

1052
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:17.320
<v Speaker 10>Seeing kentucky excel, at and that's Where Murray state took their.

1053
00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:20.639
<v Speaker 10>Advantage and it's stuff that this team is continuing to

1054
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:23.679
<v Speaker 10>try to clean up and and improve on as they

1055
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:25.159
<v Speaker 10>really dive into league.

1056
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:28.119
<v Speaker 1>Play, yeah and we've got to remember this is a new.

1057
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Team this is a different team some faces from last.

1058
00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Year but you, know guys are figuring things out and

1059
00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:38.760
<v Speaker 1>some of those, mistakes the base running. Mistakes brooks gets

1060
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:43.400
<v Speaker 1>nailed off second, base, right. McCoy these are, veterans but

1061
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:47.840
<v Speaker 1>they were being. Aggressive they just had to pick better,

1062
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:48.559
<v Speaker 1>spots didn't.

1063
00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:53.119
<v Speaker 10>They, yeah and you also think about the Way kentucky

1064
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:54.400
<v Speaker 10>is aggressive on the.

1065
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:56.440
<v Speaker 9>Bases they also had two guys.

1066
00:51:56.239 --> 00:51:59.000
<v Speaker 10>Thrown out at, home that's, right and lost by, run

1067
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:02.400
<v Speaker 10>and you know that's the thing That kentucky's going to.

1068
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:05.280
<v Speaker 10>Do they're going to be aggressive and they're going to

1069
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:08.079
<v Speaker 10>force teams to make a. Play and that's where you

1070
00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:11.320
<v Speaker 10>just Credit Murray state for making the plays because you

1071
00:52:11.400 --> 00:52:14.639
<v Speaker 10>know their throws, home we're right on the money to

1072
00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:18.039
<v Speaker 10>get those. Runners so but, yeah you're you're.

1073
00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:18.760
<v Speaker 9>Right it's a new.

1074
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:21.559
<v Speaker 10>Team there's a lot of new, faces and some of

1075
00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:24.280
<v Speaker 10>them have settled. In i've been really impressed with how

1076
00:52:24.360 --> 00:52:31.079
<v Speaker 10>Steady Luke. Lawrence, yeah and his bat is heating up.

1077
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:34.920
<v Speaker 10>Now he's he's strung together some really good. Games Sean

1078
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:37.719
<v Speaker 10>montoya is dangerous in the top of the, lineup you,

1079
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:40.440
<v Speaker 10>know and and and, Look Tyler, ball he's a. Freshman

1080
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:42.719
<v Speaker 10>you're going to have some nights where he looks like a.

1081
00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:45.000
<v Speaker 10>Freshman you're going to have some knights where you, think,

1082
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:48.159
<v Speaker 10>man he's probably the best short stop in THE. Stc,

1083
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:51.519
<v Speaker 10>so you, know IT'S i think it's one of those.

1084
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:54.079
<v Speaker 10>Things it's almost like a plane trying to take off

1085
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:56.719
<v Speaker 10>in the Win. Dick you, know it's a little touch and.

1086
00:52:56.760 --> 00:52:59.519
<v Speaker 10>Go they'll touch the ground and then take some mayor

1087
00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:01.400
<v Speaker 10>and then to the ground and take some. Air and

1088
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:04.519
<v Speaker 10>what you hope is is you get deeper Into april

1089
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:07.840
<v Speaker 10>and may the plane takes off and you're soaring so

1090
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:09.440
<v Speaker 10>and that's what they're trying to.

1091
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Do by the, way for those of you who might

1092
00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:13.519
<v Speaker 1>have missed The Murray state, Game Tyler bell in a

1093
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:17.000
<v Speaker 1>rough night hit by a pitch right below the, knee

1094
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:20.000
<v Speaker 1>went down like he was, shot and then collided with

1095
00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:22.159
<v Speaker 1>a teammate as they were trying to make a play

1096
00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:24.960
<v Speaker 1>on a softly hit ball in the infield and took

1097
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:26.599
<v Speaker 1>him a while to get. Up that had to be

1098
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:28.480
<v Speaker 1>the most physical game he's ever.

1099
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:32.800
<v Speaker 10>Played, oh no, question he was beat, up you, know

1100
00:53:33.519 --> 00:53:35.639
<v Speaker 10>the way he was able to get up after taking

1101
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:39.400
<v Speaker 10>that hit by. Pitch we initially thought it might have

1102
00:53:39.480 --> 00:53:42.360
<v Speaker 10>been on the ankle on the side of the, flag

1103
00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:44.800
<v Speaker 10>and then when the trainer got out, there it looked,

1104
00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:47.159
<v Speaker 10>like well maybe it was more towards the kneecap or

1105
00:53:47.239 --> 00:53:50.480
<v Speaker 10>the shen but, regardless.

1106
00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:50.719
<v Speaker 4>That her.

1107
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:53.079
<v Speaker 9>For him to get up and.

1108
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:55.960
<v Speaker 10>Continue and, then like you, said the collision With harris

1109
00:53:57.199 --> 00:53:59.039
<v Speaker 10>just shows the toughness that that young man.

1110
00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:03.079
<v Speaker 1>Possesses, yeah, yeah but like you, said worth the price of.

1111
00:54:03.159 --> 00:54:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Admission we're talking To Darren hedrick radio voice of the

1112
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Baseball cats taking On, auburn a team with a head

1113
00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:12.199
<v Speaker 1>coach who really knows is. PITCHING i haven't had a

1114
00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:15.119
<v Speaker 1>chance to dive Into auburn, yet but it's a conference

1115
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:18.719
<v Speaker 1>it's a conference, Series, Darren so you know it's going

1116
00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:18.920
<v Speaker 1>to be.

1117
00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:22.920
<v Speaker 10>Tough, yeah no question About and like you, say the

1118
00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:26.320
<v Speaker 10>one thing THAT i know about Butch thompson's teams is

1119
00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:26.800
<v Speaker 10>they can.

1120
00:54:26.920 --> 00:54:28.559
<v Speaker 9>Pitch they've always been able to.

1121
00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:31.880
<v Speaker 10>Pitch now last year they went through some struggles in that,

1122
00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:34.840
<v Speaker 10>category but it looks like they've bounced back nicely this.

1123
00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:38.480
<v Speaker 10>Year it is going to be interesting to see If

1124
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:42.559
<v Speaker 10>Ike irish plays this. Weekend he missed the series Against

1125
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:46.159
<v Speaker 10>vanderbilt last week with an. Injury apparently it didn't Affect

1126
00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:49.119
<v Speaker 10>auburn that much because they won the series With, vanderbilt

1127
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:52.440
<v Speaker 10>but he is a big bat in their, lineup so

1128
00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:54.920
<v Speaker 10>it'll be interesting to see if he's back this. Weekend

1129
00:54:56.599 --> 00:54:58.440
<v Speaker 10>but it's a Good auburn. Team you, know they're number

1130
00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:01.960
<v Speaker 10>sixteen in the. Country they're coming off that series went Over,

1131
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:06.880
<v Speaker 10>vanderbilt so they're feeling. Good and you, know, Look Nick

1132
00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:10.000
<v Speaker 10>minjeon said it earlier this, week And i'll say it TO.

1133
00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:11.639
<v Speaker 9>BBN i know.

1134
00:55:11.719 --> 00:55:13.840
<v Speaker 10>They're going to Play friday night at the same time

1135
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:17.519
<v Speaker 10>as The men are playing In. Milwaukee but this team

1136
00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:20.239
<v Speaker 10>needs you At Kentucky Proud park because there's a lot

1137
00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:22.559
<v Speaker 10>Of auburn fans that are going to be In, lexington

1138
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:25.519
<v Speaker 10>and you, know we don't want to see that ballpark

1139
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:28.679
<v Speaker 10>blue and. Orange so get out to the ballpark and

1140
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:29.559
<v Speaker 10>help support These.

1141
00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:30.559
<v Speaker 9>Wildcats and so.

1142
00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:33.519
<v Speaker 1>Far the weather's, cooperated crowds have been pretty. Good BUT

1143
00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:37.079
<v Speaker 1>i want to see what it looks like if and

1144
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:41.400
<v Speaker 1>When Kentucky baseball becomes a regular. Thing fans have been.

1145
00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Incredible seventy five hundred show, up yeah for The Super,

1146
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:48.719
<v Speaker 1>regional But i'd like to see it become the kind

1147
00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:51.559
<v Speaker 1>of thing where just almost inherently people uptime to go

1148
00:55:51.679 --> 00:55:52.639
<v Speaker 1>to the, ballpark you know WHAT i.

1149
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:56.920
<v Speaker 10>Mean, Yeah, well and the great, thing the exciting. Thing

1150
00:55:57.039 --> 00:55:58.840
<v Speaker 10>and believe, me this team has noticed.

1151
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:00.599
<v Speaker 9>That even For.

1152
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:04.639
<v Speaker 10>February and Early, march when the weather's not all that great,

1153
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:09.239
<v Speaker 10>outside it's, cold and you're playing these early games against

1154
00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:12.000
<v Speaker 10>teams that maybe aren't as marquis as An auburn Or

1155
00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:17.800
<v Speaker 10>fantasy so, on we've still seen great. CROWDS i remember

1156
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:22.639
<v Speaker 10>some games In february some Sunny tuesday afternoon games where you,

1157
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:26.280
<v Speaker 10>know they had twenty five hundred to three thousand in the,

1158
00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:29.920
<v Speaker 10>ballpark which is fantastic For. February so you, KNOW i

1159
00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:32.320
<v Speaker 10>Think Big Blue nation is excited about this team and

1160
00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:35.760
<v Speaker 10>this program and look forward to seeing how it goes

1161
00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:36.280
<v Speaker 10>later in the.

1162
00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Spring, yeah BEFORE i let you, go everybody makes that.

1163
00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:42.679
<v Speaker 1>BRACKETS i know you saw or try to project how

1164
00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:45.800
<v Speaker 1>far the women would. Go that's your. Job what about the?

1165
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:48.159
<v Speaker 1>Guys how far do you Have kentucky? Going and who

1166
00:56:48.199 --> 00:56:49.079
<v Speaker 1>do you like in the final?

1167
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:53.280
<v Speaker 10>Four you know, what in my final, Four i've kind

1168
00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:56.760
<v Speaker 10>of gone back and. FORTH i Have auburn making the final.

1169
00:56:56.840 --> 00:57:01.400
<v Speaker 10>Four i've Got duke in the final, four or you know,

1170
00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:05.599
<v Speaker 10>WHAT i ALMOST i sat there and really thought About

1171
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:09.079
<v Speaker 10>Saint john's really because that, REGION i feel like they

1172
00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:13.639
<v Speaker 10>have an opportunity in that region to make it coming

1173
00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:18.039
<v Speaker 10>out of the of the region With, KENTUCKY i still

1174
00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:20.559
<v Speaker 10>feel Like houston's the team to beat in that. Region

1175
00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:27.320
<v Speaker 10>if If kentucky matches up With, tennessee, boy that's the

1176
00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:30.239
<v Speaker 10>third time those two teams will have played that you,

1177
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:36.280
<v Speaker 10>know worry me a little, bit, Right and so you,

1178
00:57:36.360 --> 00:57:39.800
<v Speaker 10>KNOW i Think kentucky can get, there and if they

1179
00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:43.159
<v Speaker 10>get Past, TENNESSEE i think they can make a really deep.

1180
00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:46.440
<v Speaker 10>Run so but the other matchup that scares me For

1181
00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:50.400
<v Speaker 10>kentucky's in the second, round Potentially. Dick That illinois team

1182
00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:54.559
<v Speaker 10>is really. Good they're, physical they're. Fast they played not

1183
00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:58.000
<v Speaker 10>the same, style but a similar style To. Kentucky but

1184
00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:01.079
<v Speaker 10>If illinois gets out and make, shots that could be

1185
00:58:01.119 --> 00:58:03.079
<v Speaker 10>a tough matchup for the CAT i, agree.

1186
00:58:03.679 --> 00:58:07.079
<v Speaker 1>Honestly auburn kind of shook me a, little losing three

1187
00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:08.800
<v Speaker 1>or four down the, stretch but they were tough. Games

1188
00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:12.199
<v Speaker 1>But i've actually Got Michigan state coming. OUT i just

1189
00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:14.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to pick All chalk in the Final. Flourid

1190
00:58:14.360 --> 00:58:17.320
<v Speaker 1>it may, happen BUT i do Think Michigan state is

1191
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:20.119
<v Speaker 1>the toughest right up there With Saint. John's BUT i

1192
00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Think Michigan state Versus auburn is more. FEASIBLE i just

1193
00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Think florida is really, good and as well As Saint

1194
00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:29.519
<v Speaker 1>john's is, playing it's gonna be tough even For Riock

1195
00:58:29.599 --> 00:58:32.320
<v Speaker 1>patino to beat That florida team With clayton in the

1196
00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:35.280
<v Speaker 1>back court and all those front line. Guys but that

1197
00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:37.840
<v Speaker 1>has been a hell of a story With patino And

1198
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Saint john's and they start them off In. Providence of,

1199
00:58:40.320 --> 00:58:43.320
<v Speaker 1>course you, know don't tell. Me you, know they've GOT

1200
00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:45.440
<v Speaker 1>tv in mind when they do, that and that's, fine

1201
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:51.280
<v Speaker 1>just admit, it you. Know, yeah but THE sec got

1202
00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:54.079
<v Speaker 1>off to a stumbling start last, night Although texas was

1203
00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:57.400
<v Speaker 1>the weakest team coming. In so, anyway it's always. Fun

1204
00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:00.280
<v Speaker 1>and again you've Got Darren hedrick on the call FOR

1205
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:04.599
<v Speaker 1>uk women's basketball noon tip tomorrow With liberty twelve eleven

1206
00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:07.679
<v Speaker 1>forty five. Pregame and now are you working Baseball saturday

1207
00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:08.840
<v Speaker 1>bouncing back and forth or?

1208
00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:13.679
<v Speaker 10>What, No i'll just focus on the women's tournament this.

1209
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:17.320
<v Speaker 10>Weekend i'll be with them this, weekend And Andrew capus

1210
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:20.760
<v Speaker 10>will have baseball and you, know we'll see from. There,

1211
00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:23.800
<v Speaker 10>yep We're i'm either going to be At spokane Or College.

1212
00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Station catch your, Steamer Trunk. Rady he Is Darren, headrick

1213
00:59:28.320 --> 00:59:31.400
<v Speaker 1>and we will see you at the ballgame and at the. Ballpark,

1214
00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Sir thank, YOU.

1215
00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:34.159
<v Speaker 9>Pg thanks my, friend always a.

1216
00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:38.519
<v Speaker 1>Pleasure up, next FORMER uk basketball Assistant Doug. Barnes we'll

1217
00:59:38.559 --> 00:59:42.079
<v Speaker 1>talk in ze hoops here on six THIRTY Wlap welcome

1218
00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:43.920
<v Speaker 1>back to the big lewin sider joining us now as

1219
00:59:43.920 --> 00:59:45.519
<v Speaker 1>a guy who's been on the show many, times But,

1220
00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:47.679
<v Speaker 1>Doug Doug barnes has been a. While doug is a

1221
00:59:47.719 --> 00:59:51.840
<v Speaker 1>FORMER uk, assistant also coached small college In, arkansas but

1222
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:55.159
<v Speaker 1>coach at Oh miss H and this has got to

1223
00:59:55.199 --> 00:59:57.440
<v Speaker 1>be one of your favorite times a. YEAR i, know, right.

1224
00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:02.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah it, Is, dick and you know it's, uh you,

1225
01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:06.199
<v Speaker 4>KNOW i FORTUNATELY i get to watch a lot of basketball,

1226
01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:09.679
<v Speaker 4>stuff but this is makes it more, exciting yes for.

1227
01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:10.000
<v Speaker 9>Sure.

1228
01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:13.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well let me ask you about THE sec, because

1229
01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:16.480
<v Speaker 1>AS i, said you coached At, kentucky you coached it'll

1230
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:21.280
<v Speaker 1>miss uh under At murphy and the league was good

1231
01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:23.800
<v Speaker 1>when you were. In it had its ups and. Downs

1232
01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:27.440
<v Speaker 1>but what did you, Make, doug of the way the

1233
01:00:27.559 --> 01:00:30.400
<v Speaker 1>league just exploded on the scene this. Year two new

1234
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:34.159
<v Speaker 1>teams but still all but two teams get in THE Ncaa.

1235
01:00:34.199 --> 01:00:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Tournament what was your take on?

1236
01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:35.519
<v Speaker 6>That?

1237
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:40.199
<v Speaker 4>Well, uh, well the YEAR i, said oh miss uh

1238
01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:43.400
<v Speaker 4>it had a good. Line he, said you, know we

1239
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:47.199
<v Speaker 4>were a good team and a great. League, yeah and

1240
01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:49.920
<v Speaker 4>then and we got of, course we got tired and.

1241
01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:53.760
<v Speaker 4>Stuff but the bottom line is That i've never seen.

1242
01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:59.480
<v Speaker 4>It anything can be prayer to this year. Stuff you,

1243
01:00:59.559 --> 01:01:02.960
<v Speaker 4>know you, three there's three or four really pretty good,

1244
01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:05.639
<v Speaker 4>teams are one or two real good and three or

1245
01:01:05.679 --> 01:01:10.760
<v Speaker 4>four good. Teams But i've never seen this many that

1246
01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:15.639
<v Speaker 4>and that are that strong the. Teams i'm not sure

1247
01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:16.519
<v Speaker 4>anybody else has.

1248
01:01:16.639 --> 01:01:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Either why do you think this? Happened how do you

1249
01:01:20.119 --> 01:01:23.079
<v Speaker 1>think it? Happened, well you.

1250
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:23.199
<v Speaker 6>Know.

1251
01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:29.280
<v Speaker 4>It goes back several years WHEN i can't remember all

1252
01:01:29.320 --> 01:01:32.559
<v Speaker 4>the names, involved but you, know THE sec decided that

1253
01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:38.800
<v Speaker 4>they really needed to upgrade the the basketball and you,

1254
01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:41.760
<v Speaker 4>know they hired a commission for basketball Than may and,

1255
01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:44.800
<v Speaker 4>ANYWAY i think that may have had something to do with.

1256
01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:48.440
<v Speaker 4>It but the main thing IS i think these schools realized, that,

1257
01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:55.119
<v Speaker 4>uh you, know there's money we, made and they they

1258
01:01:55.480 --> 01:01:58.320
<v Speaker 4>the bottom line, is they just hired some really good, coaches,

1259
01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:02.039
<v Speaker 4>uh in the last three for, years and that's made

1260
01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:07.039
<v Speaker 4>all the. Difference i've never seen the coaches be as

1261
01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:12.360
<v Speaker 4>strong as as this group. Is they, ah you, know

1262
01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:16.480
<v Speaker 4>and and and then also really you, know upgrade the

1263
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:19.440
<v Speaker 4>facilities and all those things to go with. It but,

1264
01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:24.840
<v Speaker 4>uh it's it's obvious that they made all the schools

1265
01:02:25.119 --> 01:02:28.239
<v Speaker 4>made a commitment to degrade it and of course that's

1266
01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:32.679
<v Speaker 4>made it tougher ON uk because it's it's tougher to

1267
01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:33.920
<v Speaker 4>dominate the, now that's for.

1268
01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Sure, well when you worked At Old, miss as you,

1269
01:02:38.239 --> 01:02:41.320
<v Speaker 1>said which has since put a bunch of money in its,

1270
01:02:41.400 --> 01:02:43.440
<v Speaker 1>facilities when YOU i don't know how often you get

1271
01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:45.920
<v Speaker 1>a chance to see him ON, tv but when you

1272
01:02:46.039 --> 01:02:48.639
<v Speaker 1>do tune, in what are your thoughts having worked in

1273
01:02:48.679 --> 01:02:49.719
<v Speaker 1>the old, place.

1274
01:02:54.840 --> 01:02:57.679
<v Speaker 4>There's a there's a lot of, difference of, Course. DICK

1275
01:02:57.719 --> 01:02:59.519
<v Speaker 4>i go right back when When.

1276
01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:00.360
<v Speaker 8>Georgia it was just.

1277
01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:03.199
<v Speaker 9>Horrible oh, YEAH i don't remember. BACK i do like

1278
01:03:03.880 --> 01:03:05.079
<v Speaker 9>a rodeo place and.

1279
01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:07.719
<v Speaker 4>And it was.

1280
01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:09.639
<v Speaker 1>Depressing georgia's place was.

1281
01:03:09.719 --> 01:03:12.599
<v Speaker 4>Depressing oh moment you.

1282
01:03:12.679 --> 01:03:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Walk.

1283
01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:18.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah and but, however you KNOW i, DID i did. Coaching,

1284
01:03:19.159 --> 01:03:21.599
<v Speaker 4>well ACTUALLY i get ten years in the N ai

1285
01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:26.880
<v Speaker 4>level right and, well, WELL i can't say anything because

1286
01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:31.360
<v Speaker 4>our facility was at that time about thirty years, old

1287
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:35.360
<v Speaker 4>and uh it's still. There So i've did in some

1288
01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:37.880
<v Speaker 4>real bad. Ones but you expect different when you go

1289
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:39.079
<v Speaker 4>to THE, sec that's for.

1290
01:03:39.159 --> 01:03:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Sure, Yeah but they just they just didn't really care

1291
01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:48.079
<v Speaker 1>for the longest. Time AND i have a. Theory can

1292
01:03:48.119 --> 01:03:50.920
<v Speaker 1>you tell, me because again you've worked in several different.

1293
01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:56.639
<v Speaker 1>Places BUT i think When March madness got so popular

1294
01:03:56.760 --> 01:03:59.920
<v Speaker 1>it has grown through the. Years it could be descended.

1295
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Rellas it could be the fact THAT espn made a

1296
01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:07.880
<v Speaker 1>run at, it which FORCED cbs to cut a deal

1297
01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:11.679
<v Speaker 1>WITH tbs and and you, know borrow some of their

1298
01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:15.360
<v Speaker 1>channel partner, up so all the games now are ON.

1299
01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Tv it just got so. BIG i firmly believe that

1300
01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:25.440
<v Speaker 1>school administrators watched some of these mid majors with great

1301
01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:28.719
<v Speaker 1>runs and a lot of, fun and the alumni got,

1302
01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:31.800
<v Speaker 1>excited And i'm wondering if they were, Thinking, hey why

1303
01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:34.320
<v Speaker 1>isn't that, us you, know and they started looking at

1304
01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:37.159
<v Speaker 1>their coaches and their, facilities why can't we do? That

1305
01:04:37.599 --> 01:04:41.280
<v Speaker 1>and pretty soon it became, evident as you, said they

1306
01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:45.239
<v Speaker 1>had some coaches that were okay but not, great and you,

1307
01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:47.480
<v Speaker 1>know they weren't being really paid ahoic of a. Lot

1308
01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:50.599
<v Speaker 1>SO i really think that might be where it. Started

1309
01:04:50.639 --> 01:04:52.239
<v Speaker 1>does that make, Sense that makes any sense to?

1310
01:04:52.280 --> 01:04:55.320
<v Speaker 4>You, WELL i think that's probably one of the prime

1311
01:04:55.360 --> 01:05:00.800
<v Speaker 4>reasons well AT tv over the. YEARS i remember WHEN

1312
01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:04.000
<v Speaker 4>espn just kind of started and they would have like

1313
01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:07.920
<v Speaker 4>one one game of one game of. WEEK i, know

1314
01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:11.599
<v Speaker 4>it's hard to remember it. Stuff BUT i don't think

1315
01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:16.880
<v Speaker 4>it's a question with the the all the well the

1316
01:05:17.119 --> 01:05:21.079
<v Speaker 4>hoof law Around march madness and then those teams that

1317
01:05:21.840 --> 01:05:26.159
<v Speaker 4>that uh you, know get they get in and make a. Upset,

1318
01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:31.119
<v Speaker 4>yes and and you know those those college presidents and

1319
01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:34.440
<v Speaker 4>probably the boards see all that see what it. Does

1320
01:05:34.920 --> 01:05:38.519
<v Speaker 4>AND i think that's kind of where it, started uh, from,

1321
01:05:39.400 --> 01:05:43.960
<v Speaker 4>uh the importance and how you could take advantage of

1322
01:05:44.039 --> 01:05:47.880
<v Speaker 4>as far as promoting your. University SO i think he

1323
01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:50.239
<v Speaker 4>could be. RIGHT i think that has had a lot.

1324
01:05:50.159 --> 01:05:50.480
<v Speaker 6>To do with.

1325
01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:54.039
<v Speaker 1>It and of course now schools are having to make

1326
01:05:54.079 --> 01:05:56.119
<v Speaker 1>a different kind of commitment with N I l and

1327
01:05:56.199 --> 01:05:58.679
<v Speaker 1>the portal and all. That we'll, uh we'll come back to.

1328
01:05:58.760 --> 01:06:01.239
<v Speaker 1>That but how much have you been able to follow The?

1329
01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:03.559
<v Speaker 1>Wildcats you're in and out of, town but you still

1330
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:06.239
<v Speaker 1>got the business interest here with pop A locke and all.

1331
01:06:06.320 --> 01:06:09.440
<v Speaker 1>That but what do you think of not just the

1332
01:06:09.599 --> 01:06:12.239
<v Speaker 1>job That Mark pope has, Done, doug but as a

1333
01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:14.880
<v Speaker 1>former head, coach as an assistant, coach you guy who's

1334
01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:17.519
<v Speaker 1>been on the road, recruiting having to put a team

1335
01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:22.159
<v Speaker 1>together the Way pope and his staff. Did they cobbled

1336
01:06:22.199 --> 01:06:24.800
<v Speaker 1>this team together literally at the last minute at a

1337
01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:28.159
<v Speaker 1>place where Like, kentucky where you know the. Expectations what

1338
01:06:28.239 --> 01:06:29.320
<v Speaker 1>do you think of how they've done?

1339
01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:36.679
<v Speaker 4>That, WELL i think it's remarkable from the fact, that you,

1340
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:40.119
<v Speaker 4>know because of the. Circumstances in other, words you, know

1341
01:06:40.280 --> 01:06:44.199
<v Speaker 4>with Coach Cali perry not leaving till you, know after

1342
01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:48.440
<v Speaker 4>the final four and all that that they're you, know

1343
01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:51.280
<v Speaker 4>they're already some other coaches hired and all this other.

1344
01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:54.480
<v Speaker 4>Stuff but here you got the coach coming in and

1345
01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:59.480
<v Speaker 4>a place where they didn't leave any players except maybe

1346
01:06:59.679 --> 01:07:05.480
<v Speaker 4>one that they signed and so and the way things

1347
01:07:05.519 --> 01:07:08.800
<v Speaker 4>are today was the transfer. Portal you, know we're really

1348
01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:12.280
<v Speaker 4>late in getting into the transfer. Portal Uh AND i

1349
01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:17.239
<v Speaker 4>think they did a remarkable job of attracting the talents

1350
01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:22.039
<v Speaker 4>as they. Did AND i think the job the Coach

1351
01:07:22.119 --> 01:07:25.400
<v Speaker 4>pope and his staff has done is is basically. Remarkable

1352
01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:31.599
<v Speaker 4>and it's been a strange year because Of at times

1353
01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:33.519
<v Speaker 4>they were one of the best teams in the. Country

1354
01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:37.599
<v Speaker 4>if you look at, it you know this this team

1355
01:07:37.760 --> 01:07:42.039
<v Speaker 4>beat two number one, seeds you, know in the, tournament

1356
01:07:42.480 --> 01:07:45.519
<v Speaker 4>and the number two seeds they beat. Twice they Beat

1357
01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:49.760
<v Speaker 4>louisville and they beat Good. ZAGA i mean and that's

1358
01:07:49.800 --> 01:07:55.679
<v Speaker 4>a remarkable record of any, year SO i, think and

1359
01:07:56.519 --> 01:08:00.519
<v Speaker 4>just like anything else that was your, seasons you, know the,

1360
01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:06.159
<v Speaker 4>injuries it's really has for the negative part that is

1361
01:08:06.239 --> 01:08:08.960
<v Speaker 4>really hurt hurt The. CAT i don't Think i've ever

1362
01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:13.119
<v Speaker 4>seen any team ever lose two point, guards let alone.

1363
01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:17.000
<v Speaker 4>Three yeah you, no, No i've Seen.

1364
01:08:16.920 --> 01:08:20.479
<v Speaker 1>WELL i take that back one year WHEN i Covered,

1365
01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Transylvania Donnie lane lost two point, guards but he didn't lose.

1366
01:08:24.840 --> 01:08:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Three so that's. Amazing, yeah THE.

1367
01:08:28.479 --> 01:08:32.000
<v Speaker 4>U and the other thing is the point. GUARD i,

1368
01:08:32.079 --> 01:08:35.600
<v Speaker 4>mean there's certain positions you can lose that hurt, you

1369
01:08:36.159 --> 01:08:39.119
<v Speaker 4>but but the point guard runs your offense and that's

1370
01:08:39.920 --> 01:08:43.279
<v Speaker 4>that's where it's it's it's so so. Important SO I

1371
01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:46.159
<v Speaker 4>i you, know the good, news it looks Like butler's,

1372
01:08:46.279 --> 01:08:50.039
<v Speaker 4>uh you, know semi, back Uh and it just makes

1373
01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:52.359
<v Speaker 4>a lot of difference to have, that to have him

1374
01:08:52.359 --> 01:08:56.119
<v Speaker 4>at that point, guard that's for. Sure and uh uh you,

1375
01:08:56.199 --> 01:08:58.319
<v Speaker 4>KNOW i think The cats could make a. Run it

1376
01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:01.640
<v Speaker 4>kind of, depends you, know on the draws and uh.

1377
01:09:02.359 --> 01:09:06.359
<v Speaker 4>Uh the the disadvantage of having a uh in the

1378
01:09:06.600 --> 01:09:08.840
<v Speaker 4>NUB A, tournament they, SAID i don't think a lot

1379
01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:13.520
<v Speaker 4>of fans realize is that you you play on A

1380
01:09:13.640 --> 01:09:17.560
<v Speaker 4>thursday and then you turn, around you got one day

1381
01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:21.800
<v Speaker 4>to prepare for the next. Game and that that and

1382
01:09:22.840 --> 01:09:25.760
<v Speaker 4>that's where your draw can make a. Difference not so

1383
01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:30.039
<v Speaker 4>much how tough they, are but maybe you're running into two,

1384
01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:35.199
<v Speaker 4>different entirely different. Styles, uh and you've got a day

1385
01:09:35.760 --> 01:09:36.439
<v Speaker 4>to prepare for.

1386
01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:37.359
<v Speaker 1>It and, UH.

1387
01:09:38.760 --> 01:09:40.960
<v Speaker 4>I give you a good. Example Remember black With Coach

1388
01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:45.399
<v Speaker 4>patino's year where they got to you got to set

1389
01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:49.439
<v Speaker 4>with A West. Virginia, yes, uh because they you, know

1390
01:09:49.800 --> 01:09:52.119
<v Speaker 4>we played that we had one day to prepare and

1391
01:09:52.239 --> 01:09:55.239
<v Speaker 4>they threw that one three one at, us and, uh

1392
01:09:55.760 --> 01:09:58.479
<v Speaker 4>you know we. Did we didn't have a clue what to.

1393
01:09:58.560 --> 01:10:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Do and that was actually caliperi ye're not A patino.

1394
01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:05.000
<v Speaker 4>Year, yeah, yeah you're, right it Is cali the first.

1395
01:10:05.119 --> 01:10:11.279
<v Speaker 4>Year so, anyway it's that makes a difference that a

1396
01:10:11.319 --> 01:10:14.000
<v Speaker 4>lot of times people don't. Discuss is you that one

1397
01:10:14.199 --> 01:10:16.960
<v Speaker 4>having one day to prepare for somebody and he served.

1398
01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:20.119
<v Speaker 4>Something if the offense is a little, different the defense

1399
01:10:20.239 --> 01:10:22.479
<v Speaker 4>is a little, different it kind of gives them an.

1400
01:10:22.479 --> 01:10:23.640
<v Speaker 4>Advantage you, know.

1401
01:10:23.720 --> 01:10:26.199
<v Speaker 1>It's funny you bring that up because one of the

1402
01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:29.600
<v Speaker 1>players told me something interesting about that. Season, uh let

1403
01:10:29.680 --> 01:10:31.520
<v Speaker 1>me take a. Break i'll come back and we'll talk about.

1404
01:10:31.520 --> 01:10:33.239
<v Speaker 1>That on the other. Side here on The Big Moon,

1405
01:10:33.319 --> 01:10:36.279
<v Speaker 1>sider we're talking To Doug, barnes FORMER uk. Assistant we're

1406
01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:39.920
<v Speaker 1>back in just a minute on six THIRTY Wlap welcome.

1407
01:10:39.960 --> 01:10:42.479
<v Speaker 1>Back we're talking With Doug, barnes FORMER uk. Assistant you

1408
01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:45.119
<v Speaker 1>might have remembered. Him we used to DO tv shows,

1409
01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:48.439
<v Speaker 1>Together doug and me and the guys AT kyt From Rupp.

1410
01:10:48.439 --> 01:10:51.359
<v Speaker 1>Arena we had a lot of fun doing that back

1411
01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:53.239
<v Speaker 1>in the. Day but we're, talking of course about The

1412
01:10:53.279 --> 01:10:56.279
<v Speaker 1>wildcats and THE nca, Tournament and just before the, Break

1413
01:10:56.319 --> 01:11:00.000
<v Speaker 1>doug brought up When West virginia Upset Cali perry's first team.

1414
01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:02.399
<v Speaker 1>Image for my, money it still might have been his

1415
01:11:02.520 --> 01:11:05.520
<v Speaker 1>best team With wall And cousins And bledsoe And patterson

1416
01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:08.359
<v Speaker 1>and all. Them. Uh but one of The Mark, krebs

1417
01:11:08.439 --> 01:11:10.880
<v Speaker 1>told me you were talking about How West virginia threw

1418
01:11:10.960 --> 01:11:13.840
<v Speaker 1>that one three one At. Kentucky, Well crebs told, me he,

1419
01:11:13.920 --> 01:11:17.000
<v Speaker 1>goes we had a good plan for, That AND i

1420
01:11:17.079 --> 01:11:19.840
<v Speaker 1>said what? Happened and because you remember everybody stood outside

1421
01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:23.800
<v Speaker 1>jacking of, threes he, said people just lost their. Minds

1422
01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:28.399
<v Speaker 1>and directly to your, point they had probably a couple

1423
01:11:28.600 --> 01:11:31.479
<v Speaker 1>hours to work on, it didn't they instead of a

1424
01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:34.319
<v Speaker 1>couple of days to really drill it into. Them you,

1425
01:11:34.439 --> 01:11:36.560
<v Speaker 1>know these are the weak, spots these are the good.

1426
01:11:36.600 --> 01:11:39.159
<v Speaker 1>Point do, this don't do. That but you have to

1427
01:11:39.239 --> 01:11:41.199
<v Speaker 1>adjust at tournament, time don't.

1428
01:11:41.239 --> 01:11:44.359
<v Speaker 4>You, yeah and you just have one day to do,

1429
01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:48.520
<v Speaker 4>yeah or less than a. Day and that's where having

1430
01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:52.399
<v Speaker 4>a real veteran team and don't you, Know i'm not

1431
01:11:52.520 --> 01:11:55.279
<v Speaker 4>talking about with the, portals but, okay you people have

1432
01:11:55.399 --> 01:11:58.520
<v Speaker 4>been with your two or three years and that's what

1433
01:11:58.760 --> 01:12:04.159
<v Speaker 4>helped in the tournament because if you've got if you've

1434
01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:07.520
<v Speaker 4>got matched up with someone that is doing something a

1435
01:12:08.720 --> 01:12:12.560
<v Speaker 4>full court press or a one through one traft or,

1436
01:12:12.560 --> 01:12:16.079
<v Speaker 4>whatever you had people that'd been in your system where

1437
01:12:16.439 --> 01:12:19.600
<v Speaker 4>you're just, reviewing you're not having to kind of start, over,

1438
01:12:19.800 --> 01:12:23.239
<v Speaker 4>Right and that's the reason that it's been a factor

1439
01:12:23.640 --> 01:12:26.520
<v Speaker 4>in THE cbe tournament that a lot of times people

1440
01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:26.960
<v Speaker 4>don't talk.

1441
01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:31.359
<v Speaker 1>ABOUT i know how much you love, basketball it's. OBVIOUS i,

1442
01:12:31.399 --> 01:12:33.279
<v Speaker 1>mean it was your. Career you've got a second career

1443
01:12:33.319 --> 01:12:38.119
<v Speaker 1>as a, businessman very. Successful but could you imagine and

1444
01:12:38.239 --> 01:12:40.640
<v Speaker 1>IF i guess you've probably spent some time maybe not

1445
01:12:41.279 --> 01:12:44.960
<v Speaker 1>thinking about what it must be like today for the,

1446
01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:48.079
<v Speaker 1>coaches the, administrator for coaches to have kids come to

1447
01:12:48.159 --> 01:12:51.039
<v Speaker 1>them and, say, uh, YEAH i need another fifty grand

1448
01:12:51.079 --> 01:12:53.159
<v Speaker 1>to play in This bowl game or something like, that

1449
01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and guys Like Jay wright And Nick saban leaving because of.

1450
01:12:56.920 --> 01:12:58.960
<v Speaker 1>That what do you make of all that as a

1451
01:12:59.119 --> 01:13:00.840
<v Speaker 1>as a Former, Foresson.

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<v Speaker 4>Well first of, All i'm so grateful That i'm not.

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01:13:04.520 --> 01:13:12.520
<v Speaker 4>Coaching AND i tell PEOPLE i, remember you, know because

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01:13:12.600 --> 01:13:15.600
<v Speaker 4>at THE nai level and we had very, little very little.

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01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:19.039
<v Speaker 4>Money BUT i remember the ISSUES i. HAD i had

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01:13:19.079 --> 01:13:22.520
<v Speaker 4>one really good player at THE otis AND i had

1457
01:13:22.640 --> 01:13:24.520
<v Speaker 4>issues WHEN i got the oldest in the pair of,

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01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:29.520
<v Speaker 4>shoes let alone getting getting paid about effort and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>THAT i tell, You i'm kind of amazed that the

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01:13:35.560 --> 01:13:39.359
<v Speaker 4>coaches do as well as they have done under those.

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01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:44.399
<v Speaker 4>Circumstances when it all started, HAPPENING i, thought oh my,

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01:13:44.600 --> 01:13:47.479
<v Speaker 4>gosh YOU i have all kinds of, trouble And i'm

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01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:50.720
<v Speaker 4>sure they've had trouble that we haven't. Seen But i'm

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01:13:50.760 --> 01:13:53.680
<v Speaker 4>amazed to this work as well as it has to be, Honest.

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<v Speaker 1>WELL i think something has to be, done something has

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01:13:58.319 --> 01:14:03.319
<v Speaker 1>to change because you've got too many. KIDS i, Mean

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<v Speaker 1>i'm all for, uh you, know freedom for the, players

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01:14:07.159 --> 01:14:09.760
<v Speaker 1>but a kid who's played five or six years for

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01:14:09.840 --> 01:14:13.119
<v Speaker 1>five or six, teams that's just that's just isn't, right is?

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<v Speaker 6>It?

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<v Speaker 4>No, no it's it's kind of like. Anything you, know

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01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:23.920
<v Speaker 4>it's kind of swing and you know the nil it's you,

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01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:26.520
<v Speaker 4>know it just goes all the way, over you, know

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01:14:26.600 --> 01:14:29.520
<v Speaker 4>so it's got to swing by and come. Under AND

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01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:32.640
<v Speaker 4>i understand, that BUT i don't understand it's all the

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01:14:32.960 --> 01:14:35.880
<v Speaker 4>legal implications that the DOUBLE a is going through. It

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<v Speaker 4>SO i think some of that's going to come up.

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01:14:38.760 --> 01:14:42.039
<v Speaker 4>ABOUT i think this is coming, SUMMER i. Think and,

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<v Speaker 4>uh it's it's kind of like free agency without any.

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01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:50.840
<v Speaker 4>Rule yeah, yeah and, uh And i'm not sure it's

1481
01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:56.039
<v Speaker 4>good for the young man stuff really to uh, well you,

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01:14:56.079 --> 01:14:58.199
<v Speaker 4>know if you're twenty years old or twenty one years

1483
01:14:58.199 --> 01:15:02.520
<v Speaker 4>old or, Whatever, yeah you get you, know fifty thousand

1484
01:15:02.920 --> 01:15:08.439
<v Speaker 4>or five hundred thousand or. Whatever you, know it's that

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01:15:08.720 --> 01:15:11.560
<v Speaker 4>won't happen in your life, AGAIN i assure. You So

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<v Speaker 4>i'm surprised that there's not been more problems with it

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01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:16.399
<v Speaker 4>in their.

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01:15:16.439 --> 01:15:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Heads. Really, yeah and you know you can't blame kids

1489
01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:22.239
<v Speaker 1>for for wanting to get what they can when they. Can,

1490
01:15:23.119 --> 01:15:27.840
<v Speaker 1>uh they got families to, help and, uh you, know you,

1491
01:15:27.920 --> 01:15:31.520
<v Speaker 1>know and it's it's been crazy for, many many, years

1492
01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:35.479
<v Speaker 1>and The Ed obannon case kind of triggered. It and you,

1493
01:15:35.560 --> 01:15:39.520
<v Speaker 1>know if the powers would be within THE, ncaa, whatever

1494
01:15:39.600 --> 01:15:42.279
<v Speaker 1>the schools or, whatever the committees or whatever fought that

1495
01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:44.880
<v Speaker 1>for so, long if they had just come around on,

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01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:47.279
<v Speaker 1>THAT i don't know that any of this would have been.

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01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Happening AND i don't know how deep you went on,

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01:15:48.960 --> 01:15:53.319
<v Speaker 1>that but, uh they just fought so long to keep

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01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the kids under lock and. Key and now the pendulum

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01:15:56.039 --> 01:15:58.680
<v Speaker 1>has swung the other way in a in a huge,

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01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:00.159
<v Speaker 1>way AND i don't know who's going to swinging.

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01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:03.159
<v Speaker 4>Back you, Know, WELL i think you have a good.

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01:16:03.199 --> 01:16:06.439
<v Speaker 4>POINT i think THE c double a and, uh you,

1504
01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:09.800
<v Speaker 4>know the issue, is, uh you, know these, kids so

1505
01:16:09.960 --> 01:16:12.439
<v Speaker 4>many of them don't have. Money of COURSE i went

1506
01:16:12.520 --> 01:16:18.000
<v Speaker 4>through that with THE ni level and, so but there

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01:16:18.039 --> 01:16:21.520
<v Speaker 4>could have, been uh you, know where they could be

1508
01:16:21.640 --> 01:16:26.439
<v Speaker 4>compensated FOR i don't, know a couple of thousands or

1509
01:16:26.800 --> 01:16:30.479
<v Speaker 4>whatever h to take care of. It but by but

1510
01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:33.800
<v Speaker 4>not doing, that it made. It it started really looking.

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01:16:33.880 --> 01:16:37.079
<v Speaker 4>Bad and, UH i, AGREE i never thought about. It

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01:16:37.199 --> 01:16:40.479
<v Speaker 4>it's CASE i forgot about that. Case but if they've

1513
01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:43.359
<v Speaker 4>done that at that, time it's probably when it swung

1514
01:16:43.479 --> 01:16:44.399
<v Speaker 4>so far this other.

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01:16:44.520 --> 01:16:50.399
<v Speaker 1>Direction, well it is a weird time in all of college.

1516
01:16:50.439 --> 01:16:54.479
<v Speaker 1>Athletics quite, FRANKLY i know you're happier being a fan right.

1517
01:16:54.560 --> 01:16:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Now that, said who do you like in the? Tournament are?

1518
01:16:58.560 --> 01:17:01.439
<v Speaker 1>You are you big on THE sec putting at least

1519
01:17:01.479 --> 01:17:02.600
<v Speaker 1>a couple of teams in the final?

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<v Speaker 4>Four, well you, know going through the bracket and, EVERYTHING

1521
01:17:06.479 --> 01:17:08.279
<v Speaker 4>i think it's going to be. Interesting they have to

1522
01:17:08.399 --> 01:17:11.479
<v Speaker 4>see if THE sec performs like everybody thinks it's going.

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01:17:11.560 --> 01:17:14.439
<v Speaker 4>To you, know of course the easily got ready so

1524
01:17:14.600 --> 01:17:19.000
<v Speaker 4>high and you know there are they're out of conference.

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01:17:19.079 --> 01:17:22.359
<v Speaker 4>SCHEDULES i, mean they're winning percentage just what was in the,

1526
01:17:22.399 --> 01:17:26.319
<v Speaker 4>eighties wasn't. It, Yeah and, uh AND i think it's,

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01:17:26.439 --> 01:17:30.560
<v Speaker 4>legit but it'd be interesting to see it and trying

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01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:32.960
<v Speaker 4>to come. Up of, COURSE i know those people in

1529
01:17:32.960 --> 01:17:35.199
<v Speaker 4>THE sec are just go ahead to play somebody. Else,

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01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:40.479
<v Speaker 4>yeah but at the same, TIME i was surprised if

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01:17:40.560 --> 01:17:43.159
<v Speaker 4>it didn't come up at least being, strong maybe not

1532
01:17:43.239 --> 01:17:47.279
<v Speaker 4>as strong as what people anticipating and then trying to

1533
01:17:47.359 --> 01:17:49.840
<v Speaker 4>come up with a dark horse is kind of.

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01:17:49.880 --> 01:17:51.079
<v Speaker 1>Tough BUT i.

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<v Speaker 4>DO i do Think Saint john's has kind of come.

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01:17:53.439 --> 01:17:56.760
<v Speaker 4>Up you, know we Coached patino with his, experience it's

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01:17:56.800 --> 01:17:58.359
<v Speaker 4>kind of come up with one of those. Teams and

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01:17:59.279 --> 01:18:04.039
<v Speaker 4>maybe Maybe Michigan Port LOUISVILLE i. GOT i THOUGHT i

1539
01:18:04.119 --> 01:18:07.079
<v Speaker 4>got a real tough. Draw uh as far as the first,

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01:18:07.119 --> 01:18:07.760
<v Speaker 4>game did, You.

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01:18:08.840 --> 01:18:13.119
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what the Job patino's done this, YEAR i,

1542
01:18:13.239 --> 01:18:15.680
<v Speaker 1>mean it's it's really. ENTERTAINING i don't know if you've

1543
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:21.640
<v Speaker 1>seen any of the the reality series On Saint, john's but,

1544
01:18:22.239 --> 01:18:24.920
<v Speaker 1>yeah it's it's it's Classic, patino isn't It.

1545
01:18:26.479 --> 01:18:26.520
<v Speaker 6>It?

1546
01:18:26.760 --> 01:18:30.319
<v Speaker 4>Is and ist isn't it remarkable that he.

1547
01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Has the?

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01:18:32.479 --> 01:18:35.359
<v Speaker 4>Energy but it TAKES i, mean it takes a lot of. Energy,

1549
01:18:35.960 --> 01:18:38.880
<v Speaker 4>uh you, know in your. Seventies, uh you, Know i'm

1550
01:18:39.479 --> 01:18:42.079
<v Speaker 4>close to the eighty, now but that that's that's just

1551
01:18:42.239 --> 01:18:46.079
<v Speaker 4>remarkable that you can tell he kind of thrives on you,

1552
01:18:46.199 --> 01:18:53.000
<v Speaker 4>think and and, uh you, know he's just remarkable how

1553
01:18:53.039 --> 01:18:55.159
<v Speaker 4>he's able to get these young men to buy into

1554
01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:59.520
<v Speaker 4>the program. Stuff, uh and you, KNOW i think it's

1555
01:18:59.520 --> 01:19:02.359
<v Speaker 4>good for basketball obviously for basketball In New.

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01:19:02.439 --> 01:19:05.319
<v Speaker 1>York, yeah, yeah big, time big.

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<v Speaker 4>Time BUT i would say that'd be one of the

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01:19:07.560 --> 01:19:10.880
<v Speaker 4>dark horses they could get take a place of one

1559
01:19:10.920 --> 01:19:15.680
<v Speaker 4>of THE scc. Schools SO i think it'll. Be it's

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01:19:15.720 --> 01:19:17.640
<v Speaker 4>going to be an interesting two, weeks that's for.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure he Is Doug, barnes Former kentucky assistant coach At

1562
01:19:21.399 --> 01:19:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Ole miss coach at the small college level quite successfully In,

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01:19:25.039 --> 01:19:28.399
<v Speaker 1>arkansas and now A kentucky fan. Coach thank you so.

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01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Much you will talk again.

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01:19:29.640 --> 01:19:32.520
<v Speaker 4>Soon all, right, Thanks, peck appreciate.

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01:19:32.600 --> 01:19:35.000
<v Speaker 1>It that's going to do. It no show tomorrow, night of,

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01:19:35.039 --> 01:19:38.199
<v Speaker 1>course because OF uk. BASKETBALL i got the women at,

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01:19:38.319 --> 01:19:40.319
<v Speaker 1>noon you got the man at. Seven we'll have it right.

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01:19:40.359 --> 01:19:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Here that said good night from the garage In.

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01:19:42.760 --> 01:19:46.159
<v Speaker 7>Lexington what is the fullest name on third? Base what

1571
01:19:46.399 --> 01:19:48.720
<v Speaker 7>is the fellaw's name on? Second? By i'm not asking

1572
01:19:48.800 --> 01:19:50.880
<v Speaker 7>you who's that? Second who's on? FIRST i don't know

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01:19:51.319 --> 01:19:51.960
<v Speaker 7>third h.

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<v Speaker 12>Bat out such statuta anything doing anything sat out such

1575
01:20:59.319 --> 01:21:30.039
<v Speaker 12>change attacks from tapetting

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<v Speaker 1>To the
