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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>you who's in the ring right now fighting for truth

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<v Speaker 1>justice in the American way. It's our first guest, Dan Snowberger.

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<v Speaker 1>He is superintendent of the Elizabeth School District, and they.

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<v Speaker 2>Are fighting hard.

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<v Speaker 1>They're fighting not only for the kids in their district,

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<v Speaker 1>by extension kids everywhere. As the ACLU tries to force

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<v Speaker 1>them to put books back on the shelves that we've

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<v Speaker 1>been having excerpts quoted on this show, etc. That in

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<v Speaker 1>my view, are obviously obscene and not the type of

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<v Speaker 1>books that should be on school sholves. And they want

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<v Speaker 1>a big round today in the intense circuit Court of Appeals.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Superintendent Snowburger. Welcome back to the Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Caplis Show. How are you, sir?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing well, Dan, Thank you. Yeah, we are definitely

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<v Speaker 3>very pleased with the outcome today. We had a little

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<v Speaker 3>step back yesterday at one o'clock yesterday afternoon, the local

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<v Speaker 3>Denver judge issued a preliminary junction ordering those books be

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<v Speaker 3>returned by five o'clock on Saturday. That was a very

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<v Speaker 3>disappointing order because again she refused hearing that would have

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<v Speaker 3>given the district a chance to actually present its facts

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<v Speaker 3>and evidence in this case. Again, this judges, now we

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<v Speaker 3>shoot a preliminary injunction twice without a hearing, which is

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<v Speaker 3>a little concerning. But at eleven o'clock last night we

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<v Speaker 3>filed an appeal with the Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals

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<v Speaker 3>and at ten fifteen this morning they issued us stay

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<v Speaker 3>administrative stay not only on her order, but also on

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<v Speaker 3>any further action on the part of that judge until

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<v Speaker 3>they are able to hear this.

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<v Speaker 2>Appeal.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're pleased that this will now actually go beyond

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<v Speaker 3>the local judge.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that is tremendous news to be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>this stay. And as you know, Superintendent, so often these

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<v Speaker 1>kind of issues, right, these type of issues require fights

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<v Speaker 1>through multiple levels, as we talked about the other day

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<v Speaker 1>on this show, you know, sometimes ending in the US

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court, with the US Supreme Court taking a particular

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<v Speaker 1>interest in cases out of Colorado these days, I think

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<v Speaker 1>for obvious reasons and almost always that the Colorado plaintiff

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<v Speaker 1>in your type of shoes prevails. So really appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>guys fighting this. How can people support the cause?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we definitely are working hard to keep this

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<v Speaker 3>away from our school funding in our kids. So our

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<v Speaker 3>Elizabeth School District dot org website has a link at

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<v Speaker 3>the top. We also have a link a little further

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<v Speaker 3>down on the page for folks to follow this. We

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<v Speaker 3>have all of our motions and news information about this

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<v Speaker 3>case a little further down on the page. So folks

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<v Speaker 3>who are interested in following along, we encourage them to

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<v Speaker 3>follow that side. But definitely appreciate any donations from folks

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<v Speaker 3>who are willing to help us. Again, this is a

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<v Speaker 3>David and Goliath story. We keep repeating that small district

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<v Speaker 3>David did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's my recollection too. I may have to go

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<v Speaker 2>back and check that, but I hope and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's good to be David. Good to Dan.

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<v Speaker 3>I really appreciate the opportunity. And again, this is great

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<v Speaker 3>news for the children of Elizabeth, And as you said,

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<v Speaker 3>this is an important case for children across the color right,

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<v Speaker 3>across the nation. This is unser the law and we

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<v Speaker 3>do believe this may end up in the spring court,

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<v Speaker 3>and and if we have to take it there, we

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<v Speaker 3>certainly are willing.

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<v Speaker 2>To do so well. And I bet if you do,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll win.

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<v Speaker 1>Superintendent, thanks for the time, Thank you appreciate. Take care

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<v Speaker 1>of that is our Superintendent. Dan Snowberger speaking of David

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<v Speaker 1>and Goliath, I saw this yesterday and that just took

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of it. I thought it was so great,

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<v Speaker 1>says when God wanted to make a king out of David,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't bring him a crown.

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<v Speaker 2>He brought him Goliath.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes sense, right, Ryan, Yes, right, that makes perfect sense.

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<v Speaker 1>We all need our Goliath and all great I think

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<v Speaker 1>you look at virtually every great figure in American and

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<v Speaker 1>world history and they had to overcome their Goliath. And

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<v Speaker 1>now Elizabeth School District is facing theirs, and just admire

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<v Speaker 1>them for fighting the way they are, But folks take a.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at helping them out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an expensive process, but again a victory that needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be one, and a victory that will benefit so many.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have to come back to this question, young Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>why is the left so determined to sexualized kids? Why

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<v Speaker 1>is the acl you so determined now to go to

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<v Speaker 1>federal court and fight through every level they have to

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<v Speaker 1>to try to force Little Elizabeth School District to keep

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<v Speaker 1>these books on the shelves.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a great question.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's a very complicated answer, and I would

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<v Speaker 5>like to get doctor Rich Guggenheim on dan. He is

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<v Speaker 5>the leader of gays against groomers here in Colorado. And

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<v Speaker 5>I am closely affiliated with the log Cabin Republicans who

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<v Speaker 5>are LGB.

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<v Speaker 4>Pro Republican conservative.

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<v Speaker 5>Voices in this state. And there is an issues not

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<v Speaker 5>all trans people. I want to make sure to preface

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<v Speaker 5>it with that, But there's a blurring of the lines

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<v Speaker 5>when you talk about drag shows for.

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<v Speaker 4>Kids and reading to them.

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<v Speaker 5>And the great point that was made it might have

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<v Speaker 5>been Alexa one of our textures, why don't they do

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<v Speaker 5>this in nursing homes for old people?

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<v Speaker 4>You know they got to be with kids. What are

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<v Speaker 4>they doing with kids?

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<v Speaker 5>And you know you and me both were fierce protectors

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<v Speaker 5>of kids. They need our protection from these predatory behaviors.

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<v Speaker 5>But there's this blurring of the lines between what's appropriate

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<v Speaker 5>what's not. Wins appropriate to sexualize them. They can change

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<v Speaker 5>their body function organs with surgery and hormones at a

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<v Speaker 5>certain age, And there's only one explanation to your point, Dan.

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<v Speaker 4>It's sexualizing them.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think it's my opinion this is not a

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<v Speaker 5>hot take that there are those who would want to

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<v Speaker 5>add p to LGBTQ in the form of pedophilia predatory

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<v Speaker 5>behavior on young children.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and that is not where I met my friend.

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<v Speaker 5>But you don't believe there are people out there who

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<v Speaker 5>want to sexualize should you said it yourself. They're sexualizing children, right,

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<v Speaker 5>They're making it so they have agency over their own

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<v Speaker 5>bodies to make sexual decisions.

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<v Speaker 4>Why would they want to do that, Well, there are.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots of bad reasons they would want to do that

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<v Speaker 1>that stop short of they want to go have sex.

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<v Speaker 2>With the kids.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's what I'm injecting.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not right, I'm not saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying is this, I think there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of bad motives, a lot of bad motives when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to this ongoing effort of the left. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying the left politically. I'm not labeling gay people,

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<v Speaker 2>Labeling trans people.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that there are political actors out there on

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<v Speaker 1>the left who are pursuing these these political agendas to

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<v Speaker 1>try to sexualize kids. Now, let me finish this on it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they're pursuing this agenda as well. In it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hand in hand to try to silence parents, to to

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<v Speaker 1>criminal not only parents, counselors, others who would try to

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<v Speaker 1>step in and protect the children and say no, Johnny,

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<v Speaker 1>you're really Johnny, You're not Jane. And we've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about those bills. So I think there are lots of

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<v Speaker 1>improper motives, including on the part I'm not labeling gay

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<v Speaker 1>people are trans people, but political action types. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of recruitment going on. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of recruitment going on. I think this effort

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<v Speaker 1>is also intended to subvert parental rights. It's intended to

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<v Speaker 1>build a legalized form of censorship into society.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think there are.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots of bad motives behind all the things we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do not believe that the driving force motive

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<v Speaker 1>is to legalize pedophilia.

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<v Speaker 4>Two points to counter that.

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<v Speaker 5>One, we had an audio clip not that long ago

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<v Speaker 5>kept using the term minor attracted person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're talking about a creep of pervertence.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not an isolated the other one. Again, this is local,

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<v Speaker 5>this is statewide in Colorado. George Brockler spoke to this.

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<v Speaker 5>Why are the Democrats fighting so hard to reduce the

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<v Speaker 5>punishment and sentences for those who rape children?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, great question, that's a fair question.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that's because the Democratic Party in Colorado and

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<v Speaker 1>the left that controls the Democratic Party nationwide is pro

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<v Speaker 1>criminal in general. I think they are trying to protect

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<v Speaker 1>criminals across the board, from first degree murder to rape,

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<v Speaker 1>to child rape to all of that. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the pro criminal thing we have going on in the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party. And it's obviously it's heinous. But do you

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<v Speaker 1>really believe, Ryan, do you really believe that other than

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<v Speaker 1>the straight pervert who latches onto the movement, and again

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<v Speaker 1>that the movement has a lot of bad motives and

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<v Speaker 1>I've laid some of those out, but other than the

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<v Speaker 1>straight pervert, do you really believe that that part of

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<v Speaker 1>the organized political effort, now we have been opposing right

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<v Speaker 1>to sexualized kids, subvert parental rights, et cetera, is actually

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<v Speaker 1>to legalize adult sex with children.

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<v Speaker 5>The permissiveness that they are championing goes to your broader point,

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<v Speaker 5>but I think it's a specific point as well. They

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<v Speaker 5>are not as harsh or firm on punishment for child

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<v Speaker 5>sex offenders, and they want to reduce those punishments. And

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<v Speaker 5>like I said, it's a very important point and distinction

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<v Speaker 5>you've made it. I've made it Rich Guggenheim gaze against groomers.

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<v Speaker 5>The God is groomers. Why are they grooming? What are

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<v Speaker 5>they grooming them?

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<v Speaker 4>Forward?

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<v Speaker 1>But this goes back to I do think now if

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<v Speaker 1>you separate this out from from those who now wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be legal for adults to have sex with children.

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<v Speaker 1>And my point is that is not the core of

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<v Speaker 1>the movement right now that is behind all these awful bills.

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<v Speaker 1>But as I've said, for some in the organized political movement,

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<v Speaker 1>is their motive to recruit? Is their motive to get

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<v Speaker 1>more kids to trans Is there?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I do think for some, and I'm talking about in

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<v Speaker 1>the political movement, that is their motive. I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a different motive there that I don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>is a core part of that movement. Three out three seven, one, three, eight,

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<v Speaker 1>two five five. Obviously love to get your take on

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<v Speaker 2>D A. N. Five, seven, seven, three nine, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcasting.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I was going to play some sound, but I

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<v Speaker 1>can't over that. Can't desecrate that song. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest songs in American history.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Ryan, and meaningful to you personal.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it is so and to so many people listening, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but what a what a nice touch on and otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>kind of Chicago like Friday afternoon. But the difference is

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<v Speaker 1>sun tomorrow. How about opening day for the Rockies? All

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<v Speaker 1>day like that is brutal, Yeah, yeah, but it's still

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump coming out today and saying this is a

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<v Speaker 1>don't just say this, please take it too hard. Never

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<v Speaker 1>take stock advice from me, Okay, never I've done fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying I don't want it on my conscience.

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<v Speaker 1>And we did that today. So I was tied up

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<v Speaker 1>market's closed it too. So I'm kicking myself because if

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<v Speaker 1>I had been free, you bet I would have. And

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<v Speaker 1>because this is this is the craziest thing I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>just my opinion, is you've got a media that is

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<v Speaker 1>so anti Trump, right, and Trump has been on such

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<v Speaker 1>a role they just can't they're ready to grasp onto

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<v Speaker 1>Now, if I had been free, I would have done

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, I mean COVID, right. I did the

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<v Speaker 1>because you saw the same kind of panic selling in COVID.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I just sat there and.

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<v Speaker 1>So we made as a couple of very significant for

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<v Speaker 1>us in our little world move then and We're well

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<v Speaker 4>COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of that lab now here, Trump's in control of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's in control is he could pull the tariffs any time.

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<v Speaker 1>Does anybody really think Donald Trump is going to let

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<v Speaker 1>the economy tank? And if you do, what would make

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<v Speaker 1>you believe that? What would make you think that for

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<v Speaker 1>a second? I would bet you this, Ryan, if we

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<v Speaker 1>had subpoena power and we could put these people under oath,

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<v Speaker 1>I would bet you that Chucky Schumer and Nancy Pelosi

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<v Speaker 1>and all these howling at the moon Democrats, they're out

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<v Speaker 1>there investing right now, They're putting money back in the market.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be my guests, Well, I have no way to know,

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<v Speaker 1>but it would be my guest, Well, you do.

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<v Speaker 4>Have a way to know. Oh yeah, you have that

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<v Speaker 5>You just named two out of the three who absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, they did it. But here's Here's what I would

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<v Speaker 1>I would just guess that they're out putting money into

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<v Speaker 1>the market right now totally because this is totally illogical

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<v Speaker 1>right now, this panic selling because Trump is in control

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<v Speaker 1>of it now. First of all, I think it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to work in all the ways we described over the

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<v Speaker 1>last few days. But if it's not working, he pulls

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<v Speaker 1>illogical panic selling right now driven by a politically motivated media.

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<v Speaker 1>Not entirely, I understand there's plenty of professional selling going

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<v Speaker 2>Please do not act on that. But I'm going to look.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the President's doing the right thing. China has

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<v Speaker 6>been taking advantage of us for two decades. They're stealing

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<v Speaker 6>And I, frankly am closer on this issue, not on

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<v Speaker 6>many but on this issue with President Trump than I

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, so now.

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<v Speaker 4>I was twenty eighteen, by the way, yeah, right.

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<v Speaker 1>terror fishing in more depth coming up in these other segments.

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<v Speaker 1>But but my goodness, yeah, I just think as Trump's right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great time to get rich, and everybody's got

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<v Speaker 2>Three someone three eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Two five five text d An five seven seven three

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<v Speaker 1>nine Dan. Do you hear any appreciable outrage expressed by

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<v Speaker 1>the OLGBT et cetera groups about sex with minor.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve in Littleton?

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<v Speaker 1>No, But but the reason for that is I don't

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not going to sit here and condemn.

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<v Speaker 1>Any politician, any group, et cetera for not coming out

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<v Speaker 1>and condemning sex with minors, because sex with minors is

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<v Speaker 1>so obviously horrific and heinous and demonic that that nobody

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<v Speaker 1>So to me, and if you just joined the conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>here's why we're off on this tangent because my good

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<v Speaker 1>driving motive behind these awful radical trans bills that trumple

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<v Speaker 1>parental rights and harm kids, et cetera, is a desire

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<v Speaker 1>to have sex with children. I disagree with him on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are plenty of bad motives behind these bills.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that's one of them. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>we're having this conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you're connecting dots here that you're only one dot away. Dan,

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<v Speaker 5>you're asking the question. You're asking the question, why are

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<v Speaker 5>they sexualizing kids?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I am giving good answers. I think your

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<v Speaker 5>I think there is some there, And speaking to Steve's

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<v Speaker 5>point on the text, yes, there is a group speaking

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<v Speaker 5>out against that. They're called Gays Against Groomers and the

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<v Speaker 5>log Cabin Republicans. They are speaking out against what he's asking.

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<v Speaker 1>My only point is, aren't there plenty of obvious bad

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<v Speaker 1>that next step and say that's a motive they actually

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<v Speaker 1>to say they're trying to recruit, trample parental rights, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on the Dan Capitla Show.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy My Mom, was so wise.

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<v Speaker 1>She taught us very young the key to happiness in

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<v Speaker 1>life is to understand the true definition of rich, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And for those who decide it means money, how many

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<v Speaker 1>of those do you think end up happy versus those

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<v Speaker 1>who get it right?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Hey, let's go to the VIP line.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome our friend, Representative ty Winter, whose assistant minority leader

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<v Speaker 1>down at the legislature, which would explain all of the

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<v Speaker 1>bumps and bruises on your head right now, my friend,

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<v Speaker 1>it has to be like banging your head against the

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<v Speaker 1>wall of the State Capitol like every day when.

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<v Speaker 2>You show up. But God, love you for doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing good?

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<v Speaker 4>Brother?

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<v Speaker 7>It's great to talk to you. And sometimes we equate

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<v Speaker 7>it to a mixture of Groundhog Day and Rocky three.

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<v Speaker 7>Up every morning and you fight, club or laying and

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<v Speaker 7>then you get up and do it the next day

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, but thank god you and others are willing

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, every day there's something new and even more

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<v Speaker 2>But what has you really going right now?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 7>Just the whole issue with Senate Bill three is the

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, we didn't need to get out of the

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<v Speaker 7>committees to run amendments when of course we were done.

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<v Speaker 7>So you know, we fought really hard on that. And

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<v Speaker 7>we've been you know, drilling down in committees, trying to

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<v Speaker 7>so much. So you know, we're fighting all of those things.

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<v Speaker 7>that your House Republicans, we are in the fight and

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<v Speaker 2>Which brings us to I think a really key point.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know why I'm quoting my late mom

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<v Speaker 2>Just call for it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually went back and I checked this to

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<v Speaker 1>have fought the good fight. I have finished the race.

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<v Speaker 1>I have kept the faith. It isn't that I won

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<v Speaker 1>the race, right, because all you can do in a

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<v Speaker 1>as you can. And to me, that's more admirable than

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<v Speaker 1>people in situations where they're just guaranteed to win, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you who are fighting against these impossible odds. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't winners. But there's extra admiration for those in

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<v Speaker 1>an impossible position like this who keep fighting.

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<v Speaker 7>That's right. So every once in a while I wake

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<v Speaker 7>up and I read Roosevelt's Man in the Arena. I

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<v Speaker 7>think that that's also something that motivates me and is

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<v Speaker 7>also important. MIGHT have a huge portrait of the saying

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<v Speaker 7>in my office and there are days I have to

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<v Speaker 7>come in here and recenter myself with that. And you know,

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<v Speaker 7>at the end of the day, you know, all God

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<v Speaker 7>asked us to do is to fight, because we all

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<v Speaker 7>know we're going to win in the end. He isn't

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<v Speaker 7>guarantee a win here, but we know in the end

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<v Speaker 7>we win. So we show up every day and we fight.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's the commitment we've made not only to the

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<v Speaker 7>Republicans in Colorado, but the Independence and even the conservative

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<v Speaker 7>Democrats that want us to fight for affordability, who want

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<v Speaker 7>us to fight against crime and for safer streets, who

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<v Speaker 7>want to fight for parental rights and to have them

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<v Speaker 7>keep their hands off out of our pockets when it

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<v Speaker 7>comes to Tabor. So we take up those fights every day.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know, I just appreciate you, you know, talking

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<v Speaker 7>about the quote that your mom used to use out

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<v Speaker 7>of the Bible, because that's the stuff that really matters, sir.

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<v Speaker 7>And when we have good people like you standing behind us,

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<v Speaker 7>it makes this job a lot easier.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I appreciate you saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously I have the easy job I just talked here,

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<v Speaker 1>But the reality is that whether somebody I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>and I happen to share a Christian faith. But whether

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<v Speaker 1>somebody has that faith or they don't, everybody, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>just knows that it's a basic obligation of being on

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<v Speaker 1>this planet that you have to stand up to evil.

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<v Speaker 1>And there is some evil, evil stuff, you know, coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of the left in this legislative session. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean the individuals are evil, but there's some evil stuff

462
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<v Speaker 1>coming out. I mean this business yesterday trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>it illegal for a dad to say to his son, Hey, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're really Johnny. You're not Jane, no matter what those

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<v Speaker 1>teachers at school tell you, or a mom to say

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<v Speaker 1>to her daughter, hey you're really Jane. You're not Johnny.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, no matter what those people at school tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>that's now going to be criminalized.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, and that's where it comes to the

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<v Speaker 7>parental rights fight. I mean, they're always to the extreme

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<v Speaker 7>on one end, and I mean parents can even take

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<v Speaker 7>their kids through the process. I mean, I think that

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<v Speaker 7>they think all parents are closed minds and parents love

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<v Speaker 7>their kids. But if parents think their kids need to

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<v Speaker 7>see the priest or a pastor, or if they want

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<v Speaker 7>them to see a therapist and talk about the issues

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<v Speaker 7>that these kids are facing. They totally shot that out.

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<v Speaker 7>If your kid comes home and feels a certain way

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<v Speaker 7>and you automatically just don't affirm the way they feel,

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<v Speaker 7>your kids can be taken from you by the state.

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<v Speaker 7>We're actually hearing that bill on seconds today and we

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<v Speaker 7>fought for parental rights and we did all day. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 7>we were rule fourteen today all four bills when we start.

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<v Speaker 7>That means that they limited debate to two hours a

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<v Speaker 7>piece per bill. So we started this morning, we gabbled

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<v Speaker 7>in at nine o'clock. They rule fourteen to every bill.

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<v Speaker 7>Right now, we're on the last bill as we speak,

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<v Speaker 7>but we were only given two hours. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>you've got twenty two legislators, Yeah, just on our side,

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<v Speaker 7>and if everybody wants to speak, and then with them speaking,

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<v Speaker 7>so then they're silencing the voices of our constitutions. Well,

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<v Speaker 7>that's the unfortunate thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But that just tells you you're right and they're wrong. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like this garbage in committee where they come

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<v Speaker 1>out and said, oh no, we're not going to confer

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<v Speaker 1>with the stakeholders on this new bill that says in

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<v Speaker 1>a custody fight, it's held against a parent if they

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<v Speaker 1>tell their boys, really a boy, you know, they say, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you don't confer with the KKK and civil

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<v Speaker 1>rights legislation. So that kind of of hateful line garbage

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<v Speaker 1>is just an admission by them that they can't win

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<v Speaker 1>a discussion. They can't win an argument, right, they can't

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<v Speaker 1>win a fair fight in the legislature. So all they

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<v Speaker 1>can do is say, no, we're not going to engage

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<v Speaker 1>in discussion because you're the KKK. When they sound like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, stupid little kids on a playground. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>all because they know they can't win the argument.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you think they'd learned something from the last election cycle.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean they were a little bit insulated and call

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<v Speaker 7>Colorado and we did gain three seats back in the House,

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<v Speaker 7>in the congressional seat. That's great, but they feel insulated

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<v Speaker 7>and they can't look outside the borders of Colorado and

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<v Speaker 7>see exactly what you said. The house of cards for

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<v Speaker 7>that way of thinking is falling all over the nation.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think that we're going to get to that

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<v Speaker 7>point in Colorado. I mean, you look at today. We

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<v Speaker 7>are going to spend from nine in the morning till

518
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<v Speaker 7>seven o'clock tonight debating these which we need to have

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<v Speaker 7>our side heard for our constituents. When we could have

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<v Speaker 7>been working on affordability, we could have been working on safety,

521
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<v Speaker 7>we could have been working on lowering taxes, we could

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<v Speaker 7>have working about making our streets safer. But that isn't

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<v Speaker 7>what they're about. There's no money for them to spend

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<v Speaker 7>this year, so they're just bringing a social agenda. And

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<v Speaker 7>basically what this is, this is anti Trump language all

526
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<v Speaker 7>the time. They don't like Trump, and they're going to

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<v Speaker 7>make Republicans pay in the state House with some of

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<v Speaker 7>the most egregious bills that we've seen through here in

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<v Speaker 7>my three years here. So you know, it's a knee

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<v Speaker 7>jerk reaction for them, and I just don't think they

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<v Speaker 7>realize where they're sitting, because I think in the next

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<v Speaker 7>election cycle, if the people of Colorado that want to

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<v Speaker 7>save the state get out and vote and vote in force,

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<v Speaker 7>we're going to be a formidable opponent.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think the eight key across the state representative

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<v Speaker 1>time winner our guest is that people vote their faith.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean Catholics voting for Catholics or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just mean people voting for the core principles of

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<v Speaker 1>their faith. And voting for people who will reflect those

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<v Speaker 1>in the type of policies they enact. If that happened

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<v Speaker 1>across Colorado, this thing would flip overnight.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember when Jared Paulus, the day after he won the

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<v Speaker 1>governor's office the first time, came out and said people

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<v Speaker 1>have to keep their faith out of the public square

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<v Speaker 1>because he knew if people vote consistent with their faith,

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<v Speaker 1>the left loses.

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<v Speaker 7>That's right, and those are the values that we need

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<v Speaker 7>to talk about when we're talking to the general public,

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<v Speaker 7>and we're speaking from the well to the people of Colorado.

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<v Speaker 7>Is believe it or not, I believe the Republican Party

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<v Speaker 7>in this House is more aligned with people than they think.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think more and more people are starting to

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<v Speaker 7>see the attacks on the nuclear family, parental rights, I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>their ability to make a living. So I think that

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<v Speaker 7>the message that we're speaking outside of this building is

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<v Speaker 7>starting to resonate with people. We see a huge up

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<v Speaker 7>tick on our social media. Hired everybody to go to

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<v Speaker 7>the House, Republicans on Facebook, on x all of those platforms,

560
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<v Speaker 7>sign up for our Mighty twenty two newsletter, go to

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<v Speaker 7>our website. Because people are starting to see We've had

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<v Speaker 7>numerous groups. I mean Representative Calwell just did an interview

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<v Speaker 7>on the Daily Wire podcast. I mean that's huge. I

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<v Speaker 7>mean we're being shared by influencers, lives of TikTok. I

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<v Speaker 7>mean we have David Harris Junior. So like we're starting

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<v Speaker 7>to get the word out where people are even calling

567
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<v Speaker 7>and going, what the hell's going on in Colorado. So

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<v Speaker 7>Fox News we're starting to hit some of the big news.

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<v Speaker 7>So the more attention we can bring on the insanity

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<v Speaker 7>in this building, not only the better it will be

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<v Speaker 7>for Republicans and people with great values in this state.

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<v Speaker 7>That'll be good for the electric because they're going to

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<v Speaker 7>get to see what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Amen, do that. Take keep fighting the good fight, my friend,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, Dad, have a good one. Brother, God bless

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<v Speaker 7>America you too.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Representative Tie Winter fighting really really hard down there.

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<v Speaker 2>And you see, Ryan, I know we.

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<v Speaker 1>Have did this break but the latest and it ties

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<v Speaker 1>right into this right Obviously, the Democrats in Colorado field

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<v Speaker 1>are electorally bulletproof because the latest from them they dropped

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<v Speaker 1>a late bill today. We'll talk about it when we

585
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<v Speaker 1>come back, which will change Colorado law to further protect

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<v Speaker 1>people here illegally. At the same time police is insisting

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<v Speaker 1>we're not a sanctuary state. We're not a sanctuary state.

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<v Speaker 1>And some of this stuff they want to do now

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<v Speaker 1>is beyond mind blowing. You're on the dan Caplas.

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<v Speaker 4>Show and now back to the Dankaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 8>We're the largest consumer market in the world, and yet

592
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<v Speaker 8>the only thing we export as services, and we.

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<v Speaker 2>Need to stop that.

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<v Speaker 8>We need to get back to a time of country

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<v Speaker 8>that can make things, and to do that we have

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<v Speaker 8>to reset the global order of trade.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other question, well, the.

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<v Speaker 8>Worst thing is to leave it the way it is forever.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, this just can't continue. We can't continue to

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<v Speaker 8>be a country that doesn't make things. We have to

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<v Speaker 8>be able to make things to provide jobs for Americans.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 8>It's that's simple. China as an example, it's outrageous. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>they don't consume anything. All they do is export and

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<v Speaker 8>flood and the store markets. In addition to all the

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<v Speaker 8>tariffs and barriers they put in place.

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<v Speaker 1>How does anybody argue with that logic at least about

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<v Speaker 1>the underlying problem?

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<v Speaker 7>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that reasonable and smart people can disagree about

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<v Speaker 1>the solution, but I think the two things that cannot

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<v Speaker 1>be disagreed about reasonably are We've got an enormous problem

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<v Speaker 1>in this country, starting with a national security problem, then

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<v Speaker 1>a national health problem, and then a long term national

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<v Speaker 1>economic health problem. And that is that we're not making stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not making stuff at anywhere near the level we

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<v Speaker 1>need to. We're not making the stuff at anywhere near

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<v Speaker 1>the level we need to that this nation needs to

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<v Speaker 1>live and to function day in and day out. What

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<v Speaker 1>We're just going to sit here and just just be

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<v Speaker 1>confident that China and the rest of the world isn't

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<v Speaker 1>going to turn off the spigot I mean, or that

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<v Speaker 1>there isn't going to be another pandemic or some other

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<v Speaker 1>kind of disaster which interrupts those supply mean I mean, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I really admire Trump for having the guts to stand

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<v Speaker 1>up and be willing to endure political pain in order

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<v Speaker 1>to try to change this course that we're on now.

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<v Speaker 1>In the end, well, tariffs have been proven to be

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<v Speaker 1>the right move or not, I'm not certain, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know the status quo isn't And who from either party

631
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<v Speaker 1>has had the courage before to be willing to try

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<v Speaker 1>to change that status quo. But this market thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get to the phone lines and again, please

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<v Speaker 1>do the opposite of anything I suggest on stocks. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never suggest anything on stocks. I'll just tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what I do. And I look at this right now,

637
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<v Speaker 1>and I think this is utter madness panic selling.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand institutional investors.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got their algorithms and they've got to sell here

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<v Speaker 1>and they've got to sell there. I'm not saying any

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<v Speaker 1>of that's crazy. I'm just saying when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>this Trump hating media, which sees this chance now to

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<v Speaker 1>hammer them, and they're so gleefully helping the market drops,

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<v Speaker 1>so they run all these panic stories and then you

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<v Speaker 1>have all these hard working people go out there and

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<v Speaker 1>l in a panic moment. It's madness, right because unlike COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>which created a great buying opportunity, and I'm grateful we

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<v Speaker 1>were able to take advantage of that, but but here

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's in control. COVID there was limited control. Trump's in

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<v Speaker 1>control here. He could change course at any time. So

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<v Speaker 1>why would anybody be sitting here thinking that that that

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a second, this market isn't going to come back up.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Mike the Millennial, probably a ninety year

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<v Speaker 1>old guy, but I love the spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on the Dan Kapla Show. Welcome Mike.

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<v Speaker 9>No, Dan, you don't remember me. I've called into your

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<v Speaker 9>show many.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, thank you you are Mike the Millennial.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I thought it was an imposter.

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<v Speaker 9>No, no, unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 1>Now do you go buy that on X two? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you actually Mike the Millennial?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, it's funny, you know, I've I've listened to talk

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<v Speaker 9>radio for a lot of my life. I called and

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<v Speaker 9>used to call into the Jimbo Hannan show before he died,

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<v Speaker 9>and also Coast to Coast am George Nori over on KOA.

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<v Speaker 9>But that's kind of what they usually call me on

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<v Speaker 9>when I call in. But anyways, No, it's good to

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<v Speaker 9>talk to you again, Dan, and you know, thank you.

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<v Speaker 9>It's always for your very thoughtful assessments on every show

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<v Speaker 9>you do. And I just had a quick comment about

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<v Speaker 9>tarriffs at orright and so yeah. So yesterday Chuck Grassley

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<v Speaker 9>did something pretty astonishing. He joined with Democrat Maria Cantwell

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<v Speaker 9>introduce introducing a bill giving Congress the power to stop

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<v Speaker 9>any and all of Trump's tarots. The measure which was

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<v Speaker 9>introduced Thursday, would limit the president's power to impose tarriffs.

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<v Speaker 9>It would require the president to notify Congress within forty

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<v Speaker 9>eight hours of such an imposition, and the bill also

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<v Speaker 9>would allow Congress to end any tariff at any time.

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<v Speaker 9>And you know, I think it's significant because you know,

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<v Speaker 9>we've seen I think the four other Republican senators join

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<v Speaker 9>in the issue of tariffs on camp to go with

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<v Speaker 9>the Democrats. But I think this is significant because this

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<v Speaker 9>is the first time we've seen an actual Republican senator

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<v Speaker 9>join a Democrat in introducing a bill to essentially oppose

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<v Speaker 9>Trump's wishes, right, And I think also, you know, part

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<v Speaker 9>of what Trump is thinking is going to happen is

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<v Speaker 9>that all of these countries are going to line up

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<v Speaker 9>to come to Washington to renegotiate the price of you know,

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<v Speaker 9>goods that they're selling to the United States. I don't

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<v Speaker 9>know if that's the reality or not. And so the

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<v Speaker 9>ends have to justify the means, right, because people are

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<v Speaker 9>obviously losing money. But now Jones obviously tanked from over

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<v Speaker 9>forty thousand to into the thirties. So you know, Trump

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<v Speaker 9>was saying that the last month's jobs report says, it's

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<v Speaker 9>all working, it's all great, But I don't know if

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<v Speaker 9>that's going to be enough to justify the continuing tariffs

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<v Speaker 9>in the long term. Now, Trump is kind of a negotiator, right,

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<v Speaker 9>He's a businessman, so he wants to negotiate. But I

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<v Speaker 9>just you know, he tries to force respect all these countries,

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<v Speaker 9>and you have to realize respect is earned, it's not

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<v Speaker 9>just getting well you willy willy.

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<v Speaker 1>But eminem, let me jump in here for a second there,

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of trying to force respect, No, what Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Is to use the might of the United States of.

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<v Speaker 1>America, to use the leverage, because it's easy to forget

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<v Speaker 1>at times, right, might because of the way the Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>in their media arm have tried to portray things that

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<v Speaker 1>we are the greatest country in the history of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>The economic might of the US is unsurpassed. So as

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<v Speaker 1>long as we're willing to use that ethically and within

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<v Speaker 1>the bounds of the law, there is an awful lot

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<v Speaker 1>that can be accomplished to level the playing field. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>your excellent point about Chuck Grassley Ran Paul, who I

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<v Speaker 1>also respect. Seeing these tariffs are disaster. I think This

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<v Speaker 1>just comes back to a key point, Mike, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is that any kind of bold move to try to

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<v Speaker 1>stop this country from going off a cliff is going

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<v Speaker 1>to run some risk, and it's certainly going to involve

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<v Speaker 1>some at least short term pain. And there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people politically who just aren't willing to risk that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet the GOP could get wiped out in the midterms

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<v Speaker 1>if this play doesn't work. So I get the concerns

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<v Speaker 1>out there, but we know status quo won't work, and

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's in control here.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to work somehow, sometime
