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Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick back

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up with the email chain with Marie Villafauna and the

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prosecutors and Jeffrey Epstein's lawyers from the original prosecution in Florida.

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This email was sent by Jay Lefkowitz to Jeff Slowman,

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and Alex Acosta was c seed. This email was sent

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on November twenty eighth, two thousand and seven. Here, Jeff,

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I received your email yesterday and was a little surprised

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at the tone of your letter, given the fact that

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we spoke last week and I had thought it was

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a very productive meeting. I was especially surprised given that

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your letter arrived on only the second day back to

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work after the Thanksgiving holiday, and yet your demands regarding

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timing suggest that I have been sitting on my hands

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for days. You should know that the first time I

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learned about Judge redacted selection of Podthurst and Josephsburg, and

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indeed the first time I ever heard their names was

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in our meeting with you on Wednesday of last week. Nevertheless,

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I have now been able to confer with my client

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and we have determined that the selection of Podthurst and

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Joseph Berg are acceptable to us, reserving, of course, our

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previously stated objections to the manner in which you have

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interpreted the section twenty two to fifty five portion of

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the agreement. We do, however, strongly and emphatically object to

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your sending a letter to the alleged victims without fair

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opportunity to review and the ability to make objections to

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this letter. It is completely unacceptable that you would send

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it without our consideration. Additionally, given that the US Attorney's

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Office has made clear it cannot vouch for the claims

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of the victims, it would be incendiary and inappropriate for

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your office to send such a letter. Indeed, because it

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is a certainty that any such letter would immediately be

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leaked to the press, your actions will only have the

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effect act of injuring mister Epstein and promoting spurious civil

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litigation directed Adam. We believe it's entirely unprecedented and in

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any event inappropriate for the government to be the instigator

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of such lawsuits. Finally, we disagree with your view that

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you were required to notify the alleged victims pursue into

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the justice for all act of two thousand and four.

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First US Code eighteen, Section twenty two to fifty five,

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the relevant statute under the Non Prosecution Agreement for the

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Settlement of Civil Remedies does not have any connection to

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the Justice for All Act. Section twenty two to fifty

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five was enacted as part of a different statute. Second,

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the Justice for All Act refers to restitution, and section

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twenty two to fifty five is not a restitution statute.

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It is a civil remedy. As you know, we had

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offered to provide a restitution fund for the alleged victims

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in this matter. However, that option was rejected by your office.

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Had that option been chosen, we would not object to

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your notifying the alleged victims at this point. At this juncture, however,

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we do not accept your contention that there is a

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requirement that the government notify the alleged victims of a

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potential civil remedy in the case. Accordingly, for all the

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reasons we have stated above, we respectfully and firmly object

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to your sending any letter whatsoever to the alleged victims

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in this matter. Furthermore, if a letter is to be

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sent to these individuals, we believe we should have a

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right to review and make objections to that submission prior

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to it being sent to any alleged victim. We also

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request that if your office believes that it must send

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a letter to go to the alleged victims who still

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have not been identified to us, it should happen only

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after mister Epstein has entered his plea. This letter should

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then come from the Attorney representative and not from the government,

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to avoid any bias. As you know, Judge Starr has

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requested a meeting with the City Attorney General Fisher to

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address what we believe is the unprecedented nature of the

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Section twenty two to twenty five component of the agreement.

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We're hopeful that this meeting will take place as early

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as next week. Accordingly, we respectfully request that we postpone

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our discussion of sending a letter to the alleged victims

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until after that meeting. We strongly believe that rushing to

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send any letter out this week is not the wisest

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manner in which to proceed, given that mister Epstein will

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not enter his plea for another few weeks. Time is

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clearly not of the essence regarding any notification to the

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identified individuals. Thanks very much, Jay. The next email was

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sent by Jeff Slowman and it was sent to Jay Lefkowitz.

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The United States has a statutory obligation Justice for All

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Act of two thousand and four to notify the victims

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of the anticipated upcoming events and their rights associated with

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the agreement entered into by the United States and mister

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Epstein in a timely fashion. Tomorrow will make one full

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week since you were formally notified of the selection. I

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must insist that the vetting process come to an end. Therefore,

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unless you provide me with a good faith objection to

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Judge redacted selection by COB tomorrow November twenty eighth, two

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thousand and seven, I will authorize the notification of the

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victims should you give me the go ahead on Podthurst

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and josephs Berg selection by COB tomorrow, I will simultaneously

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send your draft of the letter. I intend to notify

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the victims by letter after COB Thursday, November twenty ninth,

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Thanks Jeff. Next email from Jeff Slowman to Jay Lefkowitz

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with alex Acosta c Seed. Jay, Please accept my apologies

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for not getting back to you sooner, but I was

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a little under the weather yesterday. Hope that you enjoyed

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your Thanksgiving. Regarding the issue of due diligence concerning Judge

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redacted selection, I'd like to make a few observations. First,

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Guy Lewis is known for some time that Judge redacted

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was making reasonable efforts to secure Redacted Podthurst and Bob

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Joseph Berg for the assignment. In fact, when I told

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you of Judge redacted selection during our meeting last Wednesday,

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November twenty first, you and Professor Dershowitz seem very comfortable

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and certainly not surprised with the selection. Podthurst and Joseph

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Berg are no strangers to nearly the entire Epstein defense team,

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including Guy Lewis, Lillianne Sanchez, Roy Black, and apparently Professor Dershowitz,

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who said he knew mister Joseph Berg from law school. Second,

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Pothurst and Joseph Berg have long standing stellar reputations for

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their legal acumen and ethics. It's hard for me to

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imagine how much more vetting needs to be done. Next.

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EML sent by Marie Villafauna to Gerald Lefcourt and CC

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to Jeff Sloman and Andrew Lourie Jerry. As per your

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discussion with US Attorney A. Coup, I have attached the

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offices written counter proposal. If you have any questions regarding

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the terms, please do not hesitate to call. Next email

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from Marievilla Fauna to John McMillan, Andrew Osterbon, agent Kirkandaal

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and Jason Richards Hi All, here's a revised version of

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the indictment. We're still doing some proofreading, but I wanted

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to get some feedback before I start sending it through

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the chain of command. Can you let me know what

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you think. Next email is from Andrew Osterbon to Marievila

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Fauna and this email was sin September eleventh, two thousand

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and seven. Will do when do you plan to submit it?

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Next email from Marievilafauna to Andrew Osterbon on September eleventh,

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two thousand and seven, probably sometime tomorrow, just to Karen

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Atkinson to get a first read. Then it will go

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to Rolando and then up to Yes. I'm still shooting

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for a nine to twenty five for an indictment date,

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assuming they don't take our counter counter offer. In case

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you haven't heard yesterday, one of Epstein's lawyers countered with

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a fifteen month in jail followed by fifteen months community

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confinement aka home confinement, and we counter countered with twenty

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months in jail followed by ten months community confinement. Here's

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the agreement that was sent out, Thanks Drew. Next email

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was sent by Andrew Osterbon to Marie Vilafauna. This email

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was sent on September eleventh, two thousand and seven. I

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had not heard the counter offering. Is unfortunate, but I

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suppose it's understandable. Let me know how it goes. Thanks Marie.

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Next email from Marievilllafauna to Andrew Osterbon, September thirteenth, two

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thousand and seven. Hi, Drew, Sorry to bother you, but

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the POLA negotiations are getting fast and furious. Epstein's lawyers

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are fixated on this idea of a victim's fund rather

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than having the girl's files separate twenty two to fifty

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five actions. I know that the reason that they want

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to do this is not out of the goodness of

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their hearts, but to keep this stuff out of the

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public court files. But in some way it'll help the

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girls too. Do you know anything about how the fund

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in Alaska has worked out? Did all the victims consent

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or did the court just do it? Thank you for

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your help. I also turned in the indictment package to

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my immediate supervisor today, so I expect some edits back

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from her before it goes higher up the chain. If

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you add any thoughts, please let me know. Next email

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from Andrew Osterban to Marie Villa Fauna, and this one

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was sent on September thirteenth, two thousand and seven. Thanks

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for more information, Marie. I'll get the details on the

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balm arrangements from the prosecutors and get back to you tomorrow.

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I believe the girls agreed to the arrangement, but I'll

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confirm that I should have the indictment reviewed by then

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as well. Next email from Marie Villa Fauna to Andrew

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Astar Hi, Drew, I tracked down the AUSA in Alaska

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and he's sending me the trust agreement and I'll let

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you know how things go in the morning. Next eml

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from Marievilla Fauna to someone whose names were redacted and

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CC to Andrew Lowry, Jay, it was nice seeing you again, Andy,

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and I talk with Alex and Jeff. We're all satisfied

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in principle with the agreement, but the office is uncomfortable

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with the recommended federal charge. Specifically, we're concerned about the

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effect of taking the position that mister Epstein's house is

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in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States,

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and we have no evidence of any assaults occurring either

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on mister Epstein's plane or offshore from his residence. We're

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hoping that you can find an alternative federal statute that

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can be used. I will also wait to hear from

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Jack Goldberger to discuss logistics. Thank you, Marievilla Fauna. Next

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Emil from Jay Lefkowitz to Marievilla Fauna and meant to

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copy you on my first attempt to respond to Marie.

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We appreciate the courtesy of today's meeting and your agreement

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and Alex's. We understand the concerns you are raising and

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will work over the next few days to come up

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with a mutually acceptable solution. I'll speak with you no

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later than Monday, and in the interim we can come

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up with a solution. We will be in touch with you.

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Next email from Jay Lefkowitz to Marievillafauna on September thirteenth,

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two thousand and seven, Marie, are you free to speak

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at nine am tomorrow? Next email from Marievillafauna to Jay Lefkowitz,

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September thirteenth, two thousand and seven. Hi, Jay, Yeah, I am.

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I've been spending some quality time with Title eighteen looking

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for misdemeanors. Do you want to take a look at

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US Code eighteen four oh three, US Code eighteen fifteen

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twelve D and forty seven USC two twenty three A,

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one and B and we can talk about them tomorrow.

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I know that someone may there being activity on an airplane.

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I just want to make sure that there is factual

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basis for the plea that the agents can confirm. I'm

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not sure exactly where I'll be tomorrow morning, so is

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it all right if I call you? Have a good morning.

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The next and final email from Jay Lefquwitz to Marie

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Villafuna sounds good. I will be at home. Let's talk

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at nine am. Already thinking about the same statutes. Look

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forward to speaking in the morning, best Jay. All right, folks.

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So that completes this thread. But when I tell you

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that we haven't even scratched the surface yet, I mean it.

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We have so many documents to go over that it's

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not even funny. So we're going to continue to eat

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this elephant one bite at a time, and when we

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have slow news days like today, we're going to have

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more files added to the catalog. As for this one, well,

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all the information that goes with it can be found

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in the description box.