WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:02.600 Trying to make me cry on the show today with 2 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:05.559 pensive So what do we got here? 3 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:06.200 What's the bump? 4 00:00:06.240 --> 00:00:09.199 Little Chappelle Ron Pink Pony Club on behalf of the guest? 5 00:00:09.279 --> 00:00:11.880 Wait, is that how you pronounce it? I think so? 6 00:00:11.960 --> 00:00:14.199 I thought it was Shappele. I honestly it might be. 7 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:14.759 It might be. 8 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:19.000 You'll have to ask Sammy. I'm I'm not again. Listen, 9 00:00:19.039 --> 00:00:21.719 this is too This is pretty new music. H not 10 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:26.800 like brand new, but like this century, so it's not 11 00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:27.760 really down my wheels. 12 00:00:27.839 --> 00:00:29.679 Well, we like to give our guests an opportunity to 13 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:32.119 select their walk up song, so we'll bring in Sammy Mora, 14 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:34.240 our friend from you Zone. All right, Sammy, how do 15 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:36.119 you pronounce the artist's name? I honestly don't know. 16 00:00:36.759 --> 00:00:41.280 It's Chapel Roone nice porter. There we go. See, I'm 17 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:43.479 not I'm not in that song though. 18 00:00:43.479 --> 00:00:46.000 Bro, I'm old enough to be really an older brother. 19 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:47.920 But if we stretch it and get weird, I'm old enough. 20 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:50.679 To be your father. Yeah, I know. All right, Sammy. 21 00:00:50.679 --> 00:00:54.719 How are you happy Wednesday? I'm good, be good. Thank 22 00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:55.359 you for the time. 23 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:58.479 So let's start with the announcement that came down yesterday 24 00:00:58.520 --> 00:01:02.320 that Isaac Wilson is officially QB two. He'll be backing 25 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:05.640 up Devin Dan Pierre, and I suppose Sammy the blessing 26 00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:09.079 in disguise with Cam's son, you know, his inability to 27 00:01:09.079 --> 00:01:12.120 stay healthy last year is Utah football as a backup 28 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:14.760 quarterback with a good amount of Big twelve experience, which 29 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:15.680 of course is a good thing. 30 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:17.200 What's your reaction to the news. 31 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:21.120 Well, I mean, you have Kyle say that Isaac is 32 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:23.879 that backup quarterback, but then Jason Beck yesterday kind of 33 00:01:24.319 --> 00:01:28.079 slightly contradicted him by saying that he sees it as 34 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:31.120 a two A and a two B versus a two 35 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:34.079 and a three, so saying and he was talking about 36 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:37.159 Bird Ficklan specifically, like he said that Bird can get 37 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:39.079 out there and get the job done if they needed. 38 00:01:39.079 --> 00:01:41.120 But you know, it's kind of interesting to hear Kyle 39 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:43.799 say that Isaac is two and then you hear Jason 40 00:01:43.840 --> 00:01:46.159 say that if a two a two B type of situation. 41 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:49.439 But like you said, to a certain extent, it's kind 42 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:52.879 of a blessing in disguise, knowing that Isaac does have 43 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:55.640 all that experience coming into this season, and I know, 44 00:01:56.040 --> 00:01:59.280 you know, there's a lot of hesitation about him and 45 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:02.400 his play and stuff, especially how last season went down. 46 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:05.280 But the way that I see it is, you know, 47 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:09.000 I think that everybody, everyone in this quarterback room, with 48 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:12.319 the exception of Devin, came into this spring with the 49 00:02:12.439 --> 00:02:14.840 clean slate. You know, they were all learning the offense 50 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:17.000 at the same time. It wasn't like someone had been 51 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:19.159 in the program for a little bit longer than another one, 52 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:21.840 so they had to edge up. But you know, Isaac 53 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:24.439 Byrd were both on the same page, same playing field, 54 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:27.520 and you know, they this this battle went on from 55 00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:30.960 the start of spring ball until literally Saturday when the 56 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:33.800 or Friday when the scrimmage ended. You know, like that's 57 00:02:33.840 --> 00:02:35.639 a long time for these two to be going neck 58 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:39.240 and neck and back and forth. But I think it 59 00:02:39.280 --> 00:02:41.120 proves that, you know, Isaac has made the stride that 60 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:43.280 he needs he needs to do to be more consistent 61 00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:45.919 as a quarterback. You know, Kyle said that his in 62 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:48.759 head clock is is going off a lot faster, so 63 00:02:48.840 --> 00:02:50.520 he's you can tell that the game is starting to 64 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:53.560 slow down for him. I think, you know, most people 65 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:56.120 hope that you only see Isaac in garbage time. You know, 66 00:02:56.120 --> 00:02:58.360 in a couple of games this year, but I think 67 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:01.039 having a backup quarterback who has experience is you know, 68 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:04.680 it's it's a positive, but you know, this isn't the 69 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:06.520 same offense that he ran last year. Like I always 70 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:08.800 joked that Andy Ludwig's offense, to a certain extent, you 71 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:12.840 needed like three PhDs, a Masters, and like a bunch 72 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:15.520 of other degrees to be able to do a checkdown 73 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:17.680 in the in the offense just because of how chaotic 74 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:21.520 and how the intense it was. And this offense is 75 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:23.879 a very plug and play, user friendly type system from 76 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:26.759 what we've heard, So you know, it's going to be 77 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:29.400 interesting to see how Isaac you know, has adapted to it, 78 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:31.520 how he's he's grown in it, and stuff like that. 79 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:33.639 But at the end of the day, I think, you know, 80 00:03:33.680 --> 00:03:37.120 it is a it's it's a blessing in disguise. I hope, 81 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:40.800 I know most Utah fans and I I think everyone 82 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:43.639 Maydia included, hope that you know, you don't see any 83 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:46.039 of the backups for an extended period of time this season, 84 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:49.280 but if God forbid something were to happen, you know it, 85 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:52.560 it gives me at least a little bit of comfort 86 00:03:52.599 --> 00:03:55.120 knowing that you know, there is some experience behind Devan. 87 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:57.479 Tell me what you've learned about Bird, because to your point, 88 00:03:57.520 --> 00:03:59.919 it is kind of funny to hear Kyle emphatically announced 89 00:03:59.919 --> 00:04:01.759 them back up and coach back be like, wait, hold 90 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:03.919 on a second, and I wonder how much of the 91 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:07.000 messaging is to It's just such a weird thing now 92 00:04:07.199 --> 00:04:09.560 and obviously the transfer portal is not open, but so 93 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:12.240 many players, if they're not happy with their lot, decide 94 00:04:12.280 --> 00:04:14.840 to withdraw and maybe go elsewhere. So I don't know 95 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:16.839 how much of that messaging is to you know, let 96 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:19.639 Bird know, like, no, we still like you. But in 97 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:21.959 the instance, I mean Sammy, as you know, the past 98 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:24.560 few years, it hasn't just been QB one, QB two. 99 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:27.879 I mean how we've seen four and five quarterbacks at times. 100 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:30.160 So if we do see Bird this year, and we 101 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:32.000 hope that we only see Devin, to your point, what 102 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:32.959 have you learned about him? 103 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:35.920 What kind of quarterback is Bird? Ficklin, Well, Bird. 104 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:39.959 Is back even said that Bird does things a lot 105 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:43.040 similarly a lot, more like a lot, the same way 106 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:45.160 that Devin does things. 107 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:45.720 Bert. 108 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:48.160 It's like the fun fact that I have about Birds. 109 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:49.879 He's a leftist, so you know, they kind of have to, 110 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:51.879 you know, shift a few things here and there because 111 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:54.920 of you know, the left tended quarterback. But other than that, like, 112 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:56.639 he's a he's a big guy. He's up to two 113 00:04:56.720 --> 00:05:00.839 hundred pounds now. He's very, very, very like. That was 114 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:02.680 one of the things that I think was when I 115 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:05.360 watched his high school tape, you know, late in the cycle, 116 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:08.399 when Utah started pushing really hard for him down the stretch. 117 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:11.839 He's a fast guy, he's very shifty, he's hard to 118 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:15.000 bring down, and you know, I can see a lot 119 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:19.160 of the same qualities that Devin Dampier has in Bird Ficklin. 120 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:21.800 I mean, you know, yeah, he's still young, and you're 121 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:23.560 gonna have to You're gonna have to see how he 122 00:05:23.639 --> 00:05:25.680 adapts to you know, playing in a live snap and 123 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:30.560 stuff like that. But from just a film standpoint and 124 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:32.720 just watching his high school film and watching the little 125 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:35.000 bit we've got to watch in the spring, Bird plays 126 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:39.839 very similarly to Devin. He's very mobile, he is he's elusive. 127 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:42.720 Like there were times that like when you go back 128 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:44.720 and watch high school film and even like, you know, 129 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:46.360 I think there was a moment during the spring game 130 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:48.959 where it looks like he's he's dead in the water, 131 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:50.560 like the defense is going to get to him and 132 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:54.240 he is somehow able to get out of there and 133 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:58.920 turn it into a positive play. I you know, upsidewise, 134 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:00.800 I like where Bird is at. You know, maybe it's 135 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:03.040 for the best that he sits for a year, gets 136 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:05.040 his feet wet, gets his feet underneath him, and the 137 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:07.399 game starts to slow down because you know, if Devin 138 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:10.120 has a massive season this year, you know Utah could 139 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:13.120 have a wide open quarterback spot heading into next season, 140 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:15.839 and you know we might have this whole battle all 141 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:18.800 over again between Bird and Isaac, depending on if someone 142 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:23.519 Alexa transfer or not. But there's a lot If you 143 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:26.600 haven't went and watched Bird's highlight reel from high school, 144 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:29.560 I encourage everyone too, it is. It is a very 145 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:30.920 fun highlight reel to watch. 146 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:33.720 How is that wide receiver room shaken out? I know 147 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:35.439 I asked you this last week, and I'll ask you 148 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:38.959 this probably up until we actually see see the games 149 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:41.600 and see what they look like. Coach Witz said they've landed. 150 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:43.839 I think he said seven or eight. And the reason 151 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:46.439 that number is applicable is that's how many you travel with. 152 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:50.399 And we'll see. I mean, when asked about it. Devin 153 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:52.839 has good things to say. The wide receivers were made 154 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:55.560 available last week. They all said things you'd expect them 155 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:58.360 to say in fall camp. But any thoughts on who 156 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:01.319 the wide receiver won is wide receiver two is how 157 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:03.160 that room is kind of shaping out as of now. 158 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:07.560 So I honestly I said this to you last week, 159 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:09.560 but I still think Tobias Merriweather is going to be 160 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:11.920 wide receiver one. I mean, it's kind of hard to 161 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:14.160 say who's gonna be where on a depth chart, considering 162 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:17.079 Kyle said we're not getting depth charts anymore, which I know, 163 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:19.519 like there's people that are like what we need them, 164 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:22.759 but I'm like, honestly, per past game one, nothing really 165 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:25.079 ever changed on a Utah depth chart unless someone had 166 00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:28.079 a season ending injury, So you just kind of had 167 00:07:28.079 --> 00:07:30.399 to like base it off of what you're seeing, uh 168 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:33.360 like during war ups and stuff. But I will say 169 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:37.079 that Tobias I think is wide receiver one. We've heard 170 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:39.680 a lot of great things about him coming out of camp, 171 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:41.759 and you know, he's a big he's a big guy, 172 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:44.199 big playmaker, and I think that he could be like 173 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:49.000 a very dynamic pass catcher for this Utah offense, I 174 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:52.639 still am very uh bullish on Larry Simmons at that 175 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:57.439 wide receiver wide receiver two position, just you know, another guy, 176 00:07:57.560 --> 00:08:00.120 big guy who can make a big downfield play, is 177 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:03.680 a big playmaker, threat guy, very good at making contested 178 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:06.279 catches too, So I'm still high on him. And then 179 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:09.560 but the slot receiver position is one that I over 180 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:11.600 the last few weeks have kind of went back and 181 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:14.560 forth with. You know, at the beginning of fall, I 182 00:08:14.600 --> 00:08:16.199 honestly thought it was going to be it was going 183 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:17.800 to be Ryan Davis, and then I didn't know who 184 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:22.040 was going to be at the two. But now I honestly, 185 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:25.439 if there was a depth chart, which I think, I 186 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:27.680 think that that's I think it would be Ryan Davis 187 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:30.639 or Creed with him or now just you know, we've 188 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:32.159 heard good things about both of them coming out of 189 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:35.200 Faull camp. But you know, Creed really really really came 190 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:37.120 on the last few weeks, and I think that he's 191 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:40.679 firmly worked his way into that rotation and he might 192 00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:43.519 even you know, at some point of season he could 193 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:47.120 possibly overtake RD depending on how his production is going 194 00:08:47.159 --> 00:08:50.720 and stuff like that. But that that that slot spot 195 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:53.519 has kind of evolved for me over the last few weeks. 196 00:08:53.960 --> 00:08:57.600 So you sent out a tweet, Sammy, and I followed 197 00:08:57.639 --> 00:09:00.159 you last week when you joined the show and your 198 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:03.200 follow I'll encourage people to follow Sammy at s Underscore 199 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:06.639 more two four seven. That got quite a lot of attention, 200 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:09.600 and it was you were the first person I saw 201 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:12.320 tweet this. I later listened to the sound as Devin 202 00:09:12.399 --> 00:09:14.759 Dampier said that he sometimes has up to eight seconds 203 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:17.639 in the pocket with the Utah offensive line, the big 204 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:20.840 boys blocking up front, and it got quite a lot 205 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:23.519 of attention. Looked like some BYU fans decided they wanted 206 00:09:23.519 --> 00:09:26.240 to chime in, which I'll you know, it's always kind 207 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:28.440 of an interesting dynamic that way, but. 208 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:31.000 Look, it is the positional group. 209 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:33.960 Like ESPN did their top one hundred players in college 210 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:37.279 football today, Spencer is at seven in the entire country 211 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:40.200 at any position, you know. And I was thinking about 212 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:41.799 this the other day. I was just kind of doing 213 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:45.440 some prep for the show. We never talk about Michael Mochafisi. 214 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:48.519 He has thirty three starts under his belt and all 215 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:51.399 the attentions on like Spencer and Caleb and Jared's a captain. 216 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:55.039 So tell me about your thoughts with that dynamic and 217 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:58.000 certainly going up against Utah's defense projected to be one 218 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:01.200 of the best in the Big twelve, the line has 219 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:04.960 that type of performance in them, I honestly. 220 00:10:04.600 --> 00:10:07.080 Do, Like, you know, this is like you said, there's 221 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:09.440 a lot of experience on this line. You know, Spencer 222 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:12.080 and Kleb are getting most of the of the preseason 223 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:14.200 praise and stuff, but you you got to remember to 224 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:16.840 know what Togi I also, he graded out as one 225 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:19.840 of PFF's top guards last season. Like he is also 226 00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:23.320 a high, high level player. So you know, it's not 227 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:25.399 just the tackles that are good at what they do. 228 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:27.960 Those three interior guys are also really well And it's 229 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:30.720 it's it's good that you bring up Moco because you know, 230 00:10:30.799 --> 00:10:32.799 people seem to forget. People seem to just use that 231 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:35.320 last season as the reason why, you know, maybe he's 232 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:37.440 not playing the best and stuff, but he got hurt 233 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:40.600 last season, he didn't play majority, he didn't play majority 234 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:42.840 of the season. So but before that, I mean, I 235 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:45.600 can think of times his freshman in his sophomore year 236 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:49.000 where he was making some really big plays that made 237 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:51.320 everyone really excited for his future. And so you know, 238 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:53.639 those thirty three starts. Those are going to be really important. 239 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:56.279 And I think, you know, all five of these guys 240 00:10:56.279 --> 00:10:58.840 have played quite a lot of football together and they 241 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:00.759 know each other, they know how they're going to reacty 242 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:02.840 know what's going on. So I think that that's great. 243 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:06.000 And you know that tweet that we did, go on 244 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:08.120 mute as as soon as I saw that it was 245 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:10.440 making waves, I just I just went onto my notifications. 246 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:13.440 I just hit mute. But the thing is is like, 247 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:17.120 I don't know if that eight seconds people are saying 248 00:11:17.159 --> 00:11:19.559 that that's the indicative of the defensive line. I don't 249 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:23.159 think so, because we're also hearing that the defensive line 250 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:25.759 is still making a lot of big time plays. You know, 251 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:28.799 those two things can happen and they can coexist in 252 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:32.039 the same universe without one being negative and one being positive, 253 00:11:32.600 --> 00:11:34.879 you know. And so yes, the offensive line could be 254 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:38.039 given Devin to eight seconds, but that's not maybe one play. 255 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:40.360 The next play, the defensive line could get back there 256 00:11:40.399 --> 00:11:42.799 in two, you know. So it just kind of depends 257 00:11:42.799 --> 00:11:45.399 on the situation and what's going on. But I don't 258 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:48.320 think those two things one can exist without the other 259 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:50.440 one being negative. I think is how I'll put that. 260 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:53.679 Yeah, well said I wonder. You know, you're in a 261 00:11:53.759 --> 00:11:56.759 generation where it's not your fault. But we raised you 262 00:11:56.799 --> 00:11:59.159 guys with cell phones. They were your babysitters, they were 263 00:11:59.159 --> 00:12:02.320 your friends. You probably had a phone when you were young. 264 00:12:02.360 --> 00:12:04.360 I didn't have my first phone until I was in college, 265 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:07.399 and so the Internet wasn't a thing when I was 266 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:07.919 in college. 267 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:09.120 So let's be clear about that. 268 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:13.200 But when it comes to the online dynamic of your job, 269 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:16.840 is it uncomfortable for you or I mean anyone in 270 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:19.919 our space amy has to develop leathery skin, and I 271 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:22.159 think for some older people it probably takes some time 272 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:24.559 because I was not raised with social media like you were. 273 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:27.240 Is that an uncomfortable part of your job or is 274 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:28.799 it just something that you can kind of roll with 275 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:29.639 because you're used to it. 276 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:32.200 Well, to be fair, like I was one of the 277 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:34.000 last kids in my school to get a phone. My 278 00:12:34.039 --> 00:12:35.679 parents didn't get me a phone until I think I 279 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:37.600 was in like fifth or sixth grade, and I was, like, 280 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:40.519 I graduated high school in twenty seventeen. Just to like 281 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:43.000 put that into perspective, So I was like one of 282 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:45.240 the last kids in my grade to get a phone. 283 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:49.679 But you know, like I'm When I first got into this, 284 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:52.799 it was hard because you know, the more followers you get, 285 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:54.919 the more eyes you get, and the more attention you get, 286 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:57.960 and sometimes it does get to be a lot at times. 287 00:12:57.960 --> 00:13:00.279 But you know, I have a great support system around 288 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:02.120 me that like make sure that they're like, Okay, well, 289 00:13:02.399 --> 00:13:04.440 you know, maybe let's let's put the phone down for 290 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:06.000 a little bit and like go watch a movie or 291 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:09.200 go outside and hit some golf balls in the backyard 292 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:12.159 or something. And so I always, you know, I'm very good. 293 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:14.799 I have my notifications off on Twitter, so I don't 294 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:18.039 get constantly blown up with things. But you know, it's taken. 295 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:20.519 It takes time to get used to. But I'm at 296 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:23.639 the point now where you know, it's just it's just 297 00:13:23.679 --> 00:13:25.159 kind of like water off a ducks back to a 298 00:13:25.159 --> 00:13:26.080 certain extent. 299 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:28.360 Good because the Internet is where cowards go to feel 300 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:31.120 brave and certain BYU fans are a certain kind of 301 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:32.840 coward and they want to be a certain kind of brave. 302 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:34.559 So don't let it get you down, Sammy, You're doing 303 00:13:34.559 --> 00:13:36.919 a good job. I've been asking all of my guests 304 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:39.240 the following question. I will ask you this as well. 305 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:43.519 What does success look like against Ucla. I'm not plane 306 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:47.360 home from the Rose Bowl. What sort of dynamic result? 307 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:50.320 Obviously a win, but beyond that, what does success look 308 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:52.919 like for coach Wit and the Utes Week one at 309 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:53.519 the Rose Bowl? 310 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:55.720 Well, I think, yeah, like you said, the win is 311 00:13:55.759 --> 00:13:58.039 probably the best, is the biggest thing, and I think, 312 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:00.480 you know, getting out on a one in start is 313 00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:02.120 going to be massive for this thing. But team, but 314 00:14:02.159 --> 00:14:06.200 I think, you know, offensive success at this point, you know, 315 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:09.039 everyone's going like UCLA is basing their game plan off 316 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:11.039 of what Beck did at New Mexico and what Beck 317 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:15.519 possibly did at Syracuse. So right now, nobody knows what 318 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:18.320 to expect of this Utah offense. So Utah has the 319 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:22.039 ability to catch UCLA off guard with his offense and 320 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:24.759 you know, just you know, shock them and push them 321 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:26.799 back on their heels. This defense is going to be 322 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:29.320 this defense. They're going to do what they do. And 323 00:14:29.360 --> 00:14:31.120 I think that, you know, the offense, if the offense 324 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:34.480 can come out and put up good numbers. I don't 325 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:36.399 want to put a number range on it so that 326 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:38.840 everyone's like, well, Sam, you said this many yardage is 327 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:40.799 going to happen and stuff, But you know, I think 328 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:43.559 you want to see a good amount. Like I don't 329 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:45.480 even know what yardage to say on this one, because 330 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:48.399 you know, it's it's it's about consistency with one of 331 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:52.679 these guys too. But I think offensive performance needs to 332 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:55.919 be strong, and I think, you know, keeping the ball safe, 333 00:14:55.960 --> 00:14:58.159 whether it's Devin, whether it's the pass catchers, whe whether 334 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:01.360 it's the running backs. I think that's what the big 335 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:03.080 thing is going to be for this game, because you 336 00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:06.360 have the opportunity to, you know, have a massive game 337 00:15:06.440 --> 00:15:08.600 and put the nation on watch, be like, hey, this 338 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:11.240 is what this new offense has the ability to do, 339 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:14.320 so everyone just like, watch out type of thing. So 340 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:17.159 I think offensive success is going to be the biggest 341 00:15:17.159 --> 00:15:19.399 thing that I probably you know, look at it from 342 00:15:19.480 --> 00:15:21.799 you know, the defense. I don't have concerns about. I 343 00:15:21.879 --> 00:15:24.159 just I think more than anything, I think everyone's just 344 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:26.120 ready to see this offense because there's been a lot 345 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:29.200 of talk about it. So I would just say offensive success, 346 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:30.120 what sort. 347 00:15:29.919 --> 00:15:33.519 Of balance, or maybe I'll even say lack thereof, because 348 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:35.080 there is a part of me that believes this is 349 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:38.440 going to be a very run heavy attack and I'm 350 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:41.200 only basing that off of the personnel that we feel, 351 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:44.480 you know, more or less confident in and maybe this 352 00:15:44.519 --> 00:15:46.879 wide receiver group will blow us all away. And maybe 353 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:48.480 Devin is better with his arm than he was a 354 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:49.320 year ago in New Mexico. 355 00:15:49.360 --> 00:15:49.679 I don't know. 356 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:53.519 I certainly leave space for the possibilities of things manifesting 357 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:55.279 that I don't know about. I'm no expert at all, 358 00:15:55.320 --> 00:15:58.120 but it does feel like with your line being what 359 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:00.320 it is, in two backs they like a lot and 360 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:03.039 a quarterback that can really run, it feels like we 361 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:04.360 could be in for a little bit of a rush 362 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:06.879 heavy system, which you know, or maybe in you know, 363 00:16:06.960 --> 00:16:10.000 intermediate passes. But maybe it's more explosive than I'm expecting. 364 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:12.720 But as far as just generally speaking, the balance between 365 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:16.399 the run game and the throw game, what are you expecting, Sammy, Well. 366 00:16:16.240 --> 00:16:18.399 I think you know this, Like you said this def 367 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:20.279 this offense is I think gonna be rooted in a 368 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:26.039 run first option, in a run first mentality. I've said, 369 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:28.840 I think sometimes I say it's gonna be fifty to fifty. 370 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:30.759 Sometimes I say it's gonna be sixty forty in terms 371 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:33.480 of run to pass. But I do think, you know, 372 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:37.279 Utah's gonna take their chances. They're gonna, you know, Devin's 373 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:39.159 a good quarterback. Devin knows how to get to get 374 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:40.679 it done through the air. I think they're gonna they're 375 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:43.039 gonna make them. They're gonna do some damage for the air. 376 00:16:43.320 --> 00:16:45.919 I mean, Dampier even this week said that the area 377 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:47.879 that he thinks sees them like that he thinks is 378 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:49.879 going to thrive the most is the run game. He's like, 379 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:53.600 that offensive line is making up these these massive holes. 380 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:56.200 And if the offense is making these massive holes and 381 00:16:56.279 --> 00:16:58.080 leading to these big run plays, you know, that's just 382 00:16:58.080 --> 00:16:59.720 gonna open up the pass game. You know, you got 383 00:16:59.799 --> 00:17:02.240 to keep teams honest. You need to keep these defenses 384 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:03.960 on their toes. And I think that, you know, having 385 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:06.920 a quarterback like Devin who can run and who can 386 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:09.519 throw is going to be a benefit this year. And 387 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:11.559 you know, the pass catchers are gonna be great. I 388 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:14.480 know Wayshot Intokar are great in pass Pro, which is 389 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:17.640 another added benefit for this offense. And so you know, 390 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:19.640 at the end of the day, I think it's just 391 00:17:19.640 --> 00:17:21.240 gonna come down to the pass catchers, because if the 392 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:24.279 pass catchers aren't doing what they need to do, then 393 00:17:24.279 --> 00:17:26.559 you're gonna start seeing this offense move to more of 394 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:30.519 a run primary system with occasional throws. But you know, 395 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:32.559 Beth said that, you know, they don't know right now, 396 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:34.519 Like in practice it's one thing, but when the lights 397 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:36.759 are on, it's a different thing. Like he again referenced 398 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:38.400 that in New Mexico team last year where he thought 399 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:40.839 it heading into this, like heading into the season last year, 400 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:43.240 that he had like six or seven pass catchers that 401 00:17:43.279 --> 00:17:46.200