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Speaker 1: This is a podcast from Minute Media.

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Speaker 2: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirly You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast.

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Speaker 3: My name is James D.

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Speaker 2: Spittake Graves and I'm here with Jason Pebbles Calvin, and

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we are here to enter into the Maverick Zone, the

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Maverick Zone, the Maverick Zone.

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Speaker 3: Hey, those call signs are real. We got to at

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least explain what call signs we've given ourselves.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, we both have had a heck of a

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week and I don't need to get into my week,

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but just prayers for Caleb, my son who you've heard

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about at a major head injury.

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Speaker 3: We spent a week in the hospital.

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Speaker 2: Jason had to go to the hospital for a little bit,

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but it was an entirely different experience.

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Speaker 3: Good news is Caleb's doing just fine. Yeah, he's on

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the road road to recovery. Yes, I have had not one,

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but two kidney stones since we recorded Top Gun episode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you hit the brakes and fly alright by

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switching the guns.

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Speaker 3: On this one. So that's why Jason's name is Pebbles.

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Now you gotta tell them my mind. Yeah, okay, So

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if you guys will go back and listen to our

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Saturday Night Fever versus Dirty Dancing Movies comparison Part one.

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At the very end of that, you'll hear an outtake

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of somebody hacking and spitting up something really gross. D

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took a huge bite out of some green jerky that

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was covered with furry mold. He didn't look what he

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was eating. He just popped his mouth chewed it up.

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Speaker 2: Next thing I know, I have never seen so much

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nasty and moldy fungus scum in my life.

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Speaker 3: It was and I put it in my mouth. It

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was in and it was chewing. Oh my gosh, that

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was terrible, terrible, fuzzy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, love about us. Let's jump into Top Gun, Maverick.

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Speaker 3: This is a movie that we have been waiting for

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three years for this to come out. Three years. We've

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been waiting thirty six years for this. That is true.

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That is true.

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Speaker 2: If you saw the movie back in nineteen eighty six,

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you wanted nothing more than another Top Gun, and they

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made us wait three and a half decades to do it.

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But this movie was originally supposed to come out in

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July of twenty nineteen. It got postponed, It got postponed

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again in twenty twenty because of COVID, it got postponed

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again in twenty twenty one because we are still feeling

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the effects of COVID, And finally this year, twenty twenty two,

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we have got our Top Gun sequel.

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Speaker 3: You and I have tickets this Tuesday night. For those

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of you listening out there, we have not seen this yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, at the beginning of this episode, we will

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not have seen it. Then we're going to tell you, Hey,

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we're gonna go watch the movie. Then we'll say, all right,

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get ready for spoilers, folks, because we're going to tell

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you about our moviegoing experience. So the second half of

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this episode you will get to hear what we think

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after having seen the movie.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and we will let you know when we are

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entering the spoiler zone. That way you can pull the

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ingestion handle get out of there before any spoilers drop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, make sure you wait until the cap goes completely off,

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otherwise serious injury or death may result.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Watch out for the jet wash.

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Speaker 2: Okay, before we jump full on into this one, there

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a couple of like kind of tragic stories that go

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along with this. And I hate to be a downer,

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So let's just cover those real quick. We've got a

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new director on this one. We've got Joseph Kazinski who

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is the director on this and that is because almost

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ten years ago Tony Scott, who went on to become

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an incredible blockbuster director. A couple of my favorites are

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main on Fire and True Romance, which I think we

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should cover True Romance at some point, written by Quentin Tarantino.

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Maybe that one versus Natural Born Killers. It sounds good, right, Okay,

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So anyway, Tony Scott made some amazing movies.

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Speaker 3: And then away. Crimson Tide is one of my favorites.

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Speaker 2: He did Days of Thunder, which we talked about our

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last episode. Was not the best collaboration between him and

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Tom Cruise, but both of those guys met.

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Speaker 3: Their new wives there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Tony Scott had twin boys with that wife.

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But then, after all these amazing movies, after all this

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amazing success, on August nineteenth, twenty twelve, witnesses see him

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drive his car onto the Vincent Thomas Bridge in Los Angeles, stops,

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gets out, climbs over, and jumps off. Amazing, shocking tragedy

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that no one can explain. Literally, Ridley Scott's words were inexplicable. Now,

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there was some talk about whether he might have been

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dealing with cancer or not. I don't have a firm

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answer on that. Ridley Scott said that he was, but

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other sources say that he wasn't. But it's just, you know,

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you never know what demon somebody is dealing with, and

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it's just a big tragedy. If you have any thoughts

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like that, please go get help, because it's there are

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ways to avoid those thoughts without ending it.

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Speaker 3: All really really tragic. I remember when that happened. It

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was very very sad, very sad.

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Speaker 2: Now, also kind of a tragedy is the amazing actor

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Val Kilmer, who also went on to do tons of

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great movies, including True Romance. He was Elvios Elvis and

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True Romance.

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Speaker 3: Sure he is also Holliday go back to our Tombstone episode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I so many, so many great roles. And he

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tragically got throat cancer and has completely lost his voice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. If you have a chance to watch the documentary

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called Val, it's on Prime right now. It's super interesting

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a camcorder with him everywhere. He went. Oh wow, So

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there's tons of cool stuff. I mean, you get a

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lot of behind the scenes stuff on Top Gun, him

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with his kids, him with his wife, and then him

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dealing with this tragic throat cancer that actually took his larynx.

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be able to rally enough to be in Top Gun. Maverick, Yeah,

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he is in the movie. It's gonna be interesting to

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see how he's used.

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Speaker 2: So I heard they're using like some kind of AI

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to give him a voice or something.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing. Okay, So they have created his voice from

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all of his movies. They've gathered it together in a

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computer and it spit out a computerized voice that's sounds

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exactly like him. And when I say exactly, I mean

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if my eyes were closed and you played that clip

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for me, I would say, that is Val Kilmer speaking Wow. Wow,

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it is fascinating. We'll play a clip of it right here.

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Speaker 4: When we think of the most talented creative people, they

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speak to us in a unique way. A phrase we

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often hear is having a creative voice. But I was

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struck by throat cancer. After getting treated, my voice, as

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I knew it was taken away from me. But now

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I can express myself again. I can bring these dreams

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Speaker 3: It's incredible. I mean, that just sounds like him. That

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is a computer talking. Wow. That is that. It's nuts.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So let's talk a little bit about the other

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stuff that's in the trailer. All right, Yeah, so I

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can tell you that there's not beach volleyball but beach

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football on this one. Okay, that's interesting, right, he's spinning

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the football in his hand right instead of flexing on

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the volleyball court. And from what I understood from the

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actors on that one, the phrase that they heard over

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and over again was more oil. They even thought about

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having t shirts printed up that said top gun Maverick,

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more oil.

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Speaker 3: That's funny.

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Speaker 2: And then the other part of that, and this is

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the first movie, is they shot that scene, you know,

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and as an actor you have to totally prep for

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those shirtless scenes, and so they shot that scene and

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then they're like, okay, who finally done with all of

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that work out, all of that prep you know, and

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Tom Cruise sent them this big, beautiful like coconut cake

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for them to eat. And then just before Christmas time,

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whenever you know, they've just finished with Thanksgiving, Joseph Kacinski,

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the director, is like, hey, guys, we can't really use

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any of that footage.

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Speaker 3: I need to do that again.

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Speaker 2: So they had to go and try to fast paced,

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get themselves slimmed back down to reshoot the football scene.

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I saw some of it.

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Speaker 3: They looking good.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if those guys eat some turkey and

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some stuffing, They're gonna still look good.

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they were all like high five and they all went

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out for milkshakes and tater times afterwards, you know, and they,

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I mean, they had to really be diligent about their

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bodies because is there a more iconic scene in Top

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it's definitely iconic for sure, for sure, So the sequel

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to that, I mean, these guys had to look great.

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No Chinese food for them, and I noticed.

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Speaker 2: A girl in her sports brad and the one that

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we've got this time. So hey, great, hey, thumbs up

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for me. Okay, let's talk about some other things, other

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iconic things I saw in the trailer. All Right, we've

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got the aileron roll right out of the gate, and

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it's an F fourteen Tomcat, which is what they used

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in eighty six. Right, that's what those guys are flying. Well,

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the Navy doesn't have those anymore.

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Speaker 3: These are all decommissions, so that is a big question,

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like is he doing a flashback or is this like

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one of the enemies because Iran, who we've sold the

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Tomcats too, is still using it.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if Iran is the unknown enemy

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first jet that we see in the trailer.

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descending barrel roll. Nice another nice someone right going fuzzy? Okay,

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it's spit take man. Oh, Spita, I thought you couldn't

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give yourself your calls? Right, I did it?

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Speaker 2: That was David right, David Wright and James West's work

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Speaker 3: Okay, I like it better than Fuzzy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So they did the rolling scissors, which I remember

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from the commentary that was one of the most difficult

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things to capture in the first one. And they've got

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the rolling scissors in there. They've got the missing Man

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formation going over as they have the funeral, and that's

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another thing. Who's gonna die?

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Speaker 3: Right? Is it Iceman? Is he the one that dies?

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Speaker 2: We don't know one of the guys. I mean, something's

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going on where somebody dies. Okay, you want my opinion, Yeah,

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go for it.

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Speaker 3: My opinion is it's either Viper, huh or it's Iceman. Right,

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it has to have meaning to the audience. I think

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they've got to pull somebody from the old movie. Yeah,

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those two guys make the most sense to me. They do.

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Speaker 2: And it would be terrible to do Gester because somebody

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would be like Gester's dead.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we talked a little bit about them having

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to get into shape, but let's talk about the aerial

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training that these actors had to do.

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Speaker 3: This movie was shot with cameras in cockpits. Okay, this

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is actual shots from jets. Tom Cruise insisted this is

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not CGI stuff, right.

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Speaker 2: And let's be specific here. These are specially made Imax cameras,

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a tissue box that they can put six of them

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I mean that's incredible. Yeah, that is incredible.

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they crashed or whatever. So they had to go through

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you land in the water, what happens? You know, you

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all this stuff, and you can see it on their

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faces when they're pulling g's. You can't fake that.

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they have to be that they they become actor and

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director at the same time, because there's only so much

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endure all of those g's, they've not only got to

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stay in character, but they've got to make sure that

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they're in the frame properly, and that what's you know,

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that the light is hitting them on the right side

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before they are rolling these things. I mean, it's it's

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an amazing bit of work that all of these actors

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who are in these planes have done. And Tom Cruise,

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an aviation training regiment, right. He started in a single

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engine to build their like spatial awareness once they're up

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in the air, and then went to an L thirty

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nine so that they could feel the aerobatics type of

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feelings when you do sure when you're doing jet stuff, right,

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talk about that.

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each other, right, They're probably as close as you can

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get and be within the rules of combat training. And

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then all of a sudden, Maverick shoots up between them,

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which against the rules, right, You're not allowed to get

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Speaker 3: But Maverick is Maverick. Maverick you know, cannot be teamed.

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Speaker 2: Right, So Maverick is still being Maverick in this particular movie.

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don't get fired on the first day.

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Speaker 2: Yep, And you've got John Hamm is obviously a guy

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who's ready to get rid of Maverick.

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Speaker 3: He is he's the enemy general or whatever he is.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure what his rank is, but he's obviously

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the guy who is ready to have Maverick out of there.

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Speaker 3: So let me just say this up front. So there's

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a lot there's like misinformation on the top gun Maverick movies.

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want to learn too much because I don't want to

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spoil the movie for myself, right, right, So I'm coming

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across like multiple characters for actors, and they've done a

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great job of keeping this sort of under wraps. Yeah.

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Imagine doing the most anticipated movie, like sequel movie in

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thirty years, right, and having to not talk about it

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for four years. Right. So John Hamm's character I show

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is cyclone. That's his call sign, all right. I have

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also seen it listed that he's Merlin.

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play that part? Well, exactly, there's no Tim Robbins. There's

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no Kelly McGillis. Right, there's no Meg Ryan. Right, there's

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no Tom Skarett. Right, there's no Rick Krossovich. There's no

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Rick Krossovitch, there's no Michael Ironside's. Yeah, so we're pretty

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well starting fresh. Although I think that, like I show

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that maybe Merlin's in this movie, Sundown Slider, Charlie Viper, Hmmm.

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I will be interested to see which of these characters

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make an appearance. Yeah, this will be exciting. The director said,

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you know when they when people were like, hey, you know,

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you didn't even call Kelly McGillis. Yeah, and you didn't

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even call Meg Ryan. He was like, hey, you know,

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this is just a new story. Not everything has to

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look back at the old story. This is a new

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story with new characters, and some are the same and

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some just don't belong in the story, you know.

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Speaker 3: So I feel bad for Kelly McGillis.

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Speaker 2: Well, Kelly McGillis is living in a lug, having a happy,

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quiet life, teaching theater and film at a local school.

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Speaker 3: She's happy. I mean she didn't.

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Speaker 2: She kind of grew tired of the constant Hollywood image

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and trying to live that lifestyle. She wanted to go

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spend time with her kids and enjoy them. And I

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can't blame her for that.

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Speaker 3: That's absolutely not more power to her. But I've seen

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more things on Facebook of look, how fat key. That's terrible.

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That is terrible. That's wrong. Okay, that's wrong. Okay. So

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let's talk about cast for just a second. So Tom

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Cruise returns as Maverick. Obviously, he's actually older than Tom

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Scarett was in Top Gun. That's crazy, right, he's older

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than her. He's a viper. Yeah. So Tom Cruise right

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now is fifty nine. Yeah, which is older than Tom

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Skarett was when he played Viper in the original Top Gun.

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Speaker 2: Right, Tom Cruise aged a little bit better than Tom

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Skarett did. Dude, No offense, No offense to Tom Garrett.

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I'm just saying Tom Cruise looks the same. Like I

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heard the John Hamm interview and he was like, somehow

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Tom Cruise like stay in the same spot and I

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passed him. Like I didn't just pass him, I like

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zoomed by.

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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, Tom Cruise and Jennifer Connelly have that rare gene.

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There's stone age, yeah, and probably hard work and good

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you know, medical help probably so probably that, you know,

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lots of time in the gym that I haven't been

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putting in. So Tom Cruise plays Maverick okay, okay, Jennifer

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Connelly plays Penny Benjamin. R Okay. Does that name stand

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out to you? Yeah, Admiral's daughter. For those of you

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who don't remember, when Maverick and Goose are getting balled

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out by Stinger for going to rescue Cougar at the

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very beginning of Top Gun nineteen eighty six, Stinger's bawling

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him out for all kinds of stuff, you know, put

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in hack twice by me, one high Speed fly By

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and one Addmiral's daughter and Goose Lan's. Everyone goes Penny

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Benjamin and Tom Goods like, I'm not sure right right, Well,

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Penny Benjamin. As soon as I heard Jennifer Connelly is

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Penny Benjamin, I'm like, crap, that's from the first movie.

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What a great tie in. Yeah, I get to meet

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her now. Then Miles Teller plays Rooster. He's actually Goose's son. Well,

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he doesn't have sweet great balls of Fire feelings for Maverick,

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he does not, but man, he pulls off the look.

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Speaker 2: He's got the perfect mustache sache, He's got the right haircut,

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he's got the right clothes. They nailed Goose's look for Rooster.

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Speaker 3: They did you know that Miles Teller was actually born

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in nineteen eighty seven. He was born after Top Gun

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came out.

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Speaker 2: So but not bad because in the movie Top Gun

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you see Meg Ryan and Anthony Edwards have a kid. Yeah,

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and he's pretty young. I mean he's like, yeah, you know, yeah,

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So that's that's definitely believable. That could work, Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 3: And so there's some bad blood between Rooster and Maverick.

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I think he even says, my dad believed in you.

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I'm not going to make the same mistake. Lots of tention.

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I'm excited for that part of it as well. Yes,

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who else you got? Okay, Monica Barbara, she is playing

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Phoenix's a female pilot. Yes, so there's that, which is new.

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Speaker 2: There were no female cast members in the original Top Gun.

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She's out there, and from what I can gather, I

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don't think there's going to be some kind of romance

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story with her, which is again accurate, because one of

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the deals with Kelly mcgillis's character was she couldn't be

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a part of the military because the military were not

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allowed to fraightenize. And I think if the Navy's behind

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this like they were on the first one, they're probably

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going to stick to the stick to those guns if

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you will.

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Speaker 3: I think you're right. We got Val Kilma returning in

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as Iceman. We got Glenn Powell as Hangman. He's the

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guy that we talked about who they went out for

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milkshakes and tater tots after the football scene. I think

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he's going to be the sort of iceman character in

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this movie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like in the train it looks like

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that rooster is like trying to go after him inside

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the classroom quote unquote classroom, which again is still they're

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doing it out on like the deck or whatever. It's

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not in an actual.

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Speaker 3: Classroom, of course, but it's beautiful hang that American flag

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while in class, right. And you also have John Hamm

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playing Cyclone. As we said, Ed Harris. His title is

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listed as Rear Admiral. Uh huh. But I've also heard

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maybe Jester okay, And then you've got Jean Louisa Kelly. Okay, okay,

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you recognize her from Uncle Buck and yes, dear, yeah,

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she was the she was the niece on Uncle Buck. Yes, Tia, Yeah,

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she's playing Sarah Kazanski. Oh, so we think this is

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a wife, maybe her sister.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a wife, yeah, which that kind of

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is leaning to me like it's going to be Iceman

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who's in the coffin.

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Speaker 3: I think so too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, We've got several writers on this one, yes, Okay.

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Story wise, we've got Justin Marx who was the creator

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of Counterpart, that JK. Simmons in it, and then the

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other As far as story goes, we have Peter Craig,

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who we talked about on our episode on The Batman. Yes,

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it was Peter Craig who went and worked with Matt

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Reeves for the script for The Batman. He has also

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done Bad Boys for Life, He's done two of the

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Hunger Games movies. He's done The Town Ben Affleck Living right.

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So I'm looking at him and he's Sally Field's son.

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I was like, what what Sally Field son is writing

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some of the best movies to come out in the

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last ten years.

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Speaker 3: Little Frog. We got a couple of other guys who

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are involved with the script. We've got Christopher McQuire who

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helped with Mission Impossible, Fallout, did The Edge of Tomorrow,

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did the usual Suspects, so.

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Speaker 2: A one writer there. We've got Aaron Warren Singer who

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did Only The Brave, the International and American Hustle. We've

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got Aaron Krueger who did The Ring and Arlington Road

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and Scream three. Scream three was the worst them, but

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hopefully he's improved since then. Okay, but a lot of

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writers on this one, But I think the most interesting

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thing is our director. Before I get into the director,

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I want to talk one more thing about the trailer,

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all right, Yeah, So at the end of the trailer,

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you've got this scene where Maverick is in what looks

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to be a space helmet and he's in like this black,

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otherworldly looking jet and it shows this guy standing outside

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of a little shack as the jet zooms by, the

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dust billows up, and yet the roof literally comes off

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of the shack and slams back down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, what kind of plane was that? And

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I had heard like, is it a SpaceX thing? Because

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I know that Jerry Bruckheimer and Tom Cruise had talked

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to Elon Musk about SpaceX stuff. It's not that, okay,

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you guys ready, he Here's what it is, all right.

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This is a not yet released plane called the Hypersonic

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dark Star. It is an SR seventy two. It is

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the follow up to the SR seventy one Blackbird, which

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was designed by Lockheed Martin and Joseph Kaczinski and Jerry

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Bruckheimer got together with the guys from Lockheed Martin and

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they are the ones that created this simulation of this

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Dark Star plane.

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Speaker 3: What it is awesome and Jerry Bruckheimer, whatever they did,

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Jerry Bruckheimer said, it was so real. It was so

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real looking.

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Speaker 2: That China changed their satellite direction in order to get

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a better view of their fake plane like they thought

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it was. They thought it was the real thing. Skunk

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Works was the name of the company that were the

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guys from Lockheed Martin's who built and designed this mock

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up Dark Star Hypersonic SR seventy two. Very very cool.

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I'm excited to see what they do with that. It

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was not just for the trailer.

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Speaker 3: Dark Star sounds like a new gi Joe toy I

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mean Dark Star was the name of the movie that

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John car Carpenter, Yes, John Carpenter and Dan O'Bannon from

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the movie that they did to get y. Yes, that's

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right way to go. Okay, I just want to touch.

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Speaker 2: Cinematographer is Claudio Miranda. He did Life of Pie, he

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did Benjamin Buttons, he did Oblivion and Crimson Tide your favorite, right, Yeah,

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And our composers Harold Faldemeyer is back and to join

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him Hans freakin' Zimmer.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, yeah, Hey, you know who else is back?

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Tell me Kenny Loggins?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 3: Yes, tell me more. Here's what I know. Kenny Loggins

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is releasing a new version of danger Zone. That's all

467
00:22:32,839 --> 00:22:34,559
I know. And I can't wait to hear it. Freaking

468
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,319
ready to get my sock socks blown off right here,

469
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:42,319
it's always a different article of skirt, the dress, socks,

470
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,519
my gloves are gonna fly off.

471
00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 2: Okay, So now let's talk director Joseph Kazinsky. Okay, So

472
00:22:50,839 --> 00:22:55,440
Joseph Kaczinski. His first movie was Tron Legacy. Since then

473
00:22:55,559 --> 00:23:00,200
he's done Only the Brave. He's also done Oblivion with

474
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,000
Tom Cruise.

475
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,519
Speaker 3: Of course. Yes, he also did the Taco Bell Web

476
00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:08,920
of Fries commercial. It's pretty awesome Web And here's a

477
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,160
little special treat for you, sir. He is got an

478
00:23:12,279 --> 00:23:17,440
upcoming movie Twister. Wait a minute, would that not be awesome? Really?

479
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:23,039
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, let's go. That is freaking cool. So, Joseph Kaczinski,

480
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,319
I got some story here.

481
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 3: Wait before you get in, Before you get into it.

482
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,160
I called you the other day and I said, you

483
00:23:28,519 --> 00:23:31,880
have got to watch Oblivion. It's one of the best

484
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,200
movies in the two thousands. You know, we did that

485
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,720
episode a couple of months ago where we ranked the

486
00:23:36,759 --> 00:23:39,519
best movies since two thousand. Yeah, Oblivion did not make

487
00:23:39,559 --> 00:23:42,119
my top ten, but looking back on it, it probably

488
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,759
should have. Okay, did you watch that movie? I still

489
00:23:44,759 --> 00:23:46,839
have not seen it. I've been begging Gayleb to watch

490
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,240
it with me, and it's just like you know, with

491
00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:50,640
your kids, it's like, I want to watch it. No, thanks, dad,

492
00:23:50,839 --> 00:23:52,839
no thanks? Oh my gosh, it's so good. So, if

493
00:23:52,839 --> 00:23:56,319
you haven't seen Oblivion, Tom Cruise is the star Oga,

494
00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:02,039
Carolinko Hore Schmokes, and then of course Joseph Kazinski directing.

495
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,200
It's awesome. Yes, so tell me.

496
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 2: About what you learned about how many hours of footage

497
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:08,960
you've got on this.

498
00:24:09,319 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 3: They shot eight hundred hours in order to make this movie.

499
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,319
Eight hundred hours.

500
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,839
Speaker 2: That's nuts. So I was thinking about this when you

501
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,160
told me that. I'm like, okay, So they shot that much.

502
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,160
You don't have time in a normal setting to go

503
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,839
through that. They've had four years, I mean nearly four years.

504
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,160
They've had nearly four years to go through all of

505
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,920
this and really tweak the heck out of this movie

506
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:31,720
if they wanted to.

507
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,519
Speaker 3: So you really are.

508
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 2: Going to get the best of the best of eight

509
00:24:36,079 --> 00:24:39,359
hundred hours of footage, which, as we mentioned, are shot

510
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,759
on Imax cameras.

511
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,599
Speaker 3: The whole movie is shot on Imax digital cameras. The

512
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,480
original Top Gun was shot on thirty five millimeters. Yeah,

513
00:24:46,519 --> 00:24:48,799
when you think about the eight hundred hours in order

514
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,160
to properly edit, and we know this because we edit

515
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,079
our show. Yeah, you have to watch to see what's good. Yeah,

516
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,640
eight hundred hours. You'd have to spend one hundred days,

517
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,279
eight hours a day just to watch. That's not the

518
00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:02,160
amount of edything they had to do on this is

519
00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:06,119
beyond me. Right, before you go into your Joseph Kazinski story, Yes,

520
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,359
you threw that nugget at me that he's got Twister

521
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,839
maybe coming up on the horizon, which sounds great. I'll

522
00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:15,279
count me in, right, Also possible remakes that he's in

523
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,160
charge of. You ready for this, Yeah, if you are

524
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,839
in a seventies, eighties nineties movie buff, listen up. Yeah,

525
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,799
he might be working on Logan's Run. Oh wow, the

526
00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:31,200
black Hole, Oh wow, the Twilight Zone. Okay, that is

527
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,519
freaking awesome. Keep you go, and the movie version of

528
00:25:34,599 --> 00:25:38,559
the video game Grand Treatsman. Wow, this guy is somebody

529
00:25:38,599 --> 00:25:40,599
to keep your eye on. The black Hole. Scared the

530
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,279
holy crap out of me as a kid.

531
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,079
Speaker 2: If they've got to have the scene with the book

532
00:25:44,079 --> 00:25:48,079
in the saw is all I'm saying, absolutely, or.

533
00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: Make it better. I don't know how you went up

534
00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:51,400
that one, but that's yeah. Okay.

535
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: So let me tell you a little bit about Joseph Kazinski. A. Right, yeah,

536
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,559
So this is a this is a prime example of

537
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,640
you don't have to go to USC's film school to

538
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,359
become a director of some monumental movies.

539
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 3: Right.

540
00:26:01,839 --> 00:26:07,559
Speaker 2: Okay, So he started off at Stanford studying jazz and engineering.

541
00:26:07,759 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, tell me more.

542
00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:12,039
Speaker 2: So he is an engineer student. He goes to this

543
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,680
product design class and at some point the professor kind

544
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,640
of pulls him aside and says, hey, you get a

545
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,240
really good eye for design, maybe that should be the

546
00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:24,799
thing that you pursue. And so he decides to study

547
00:26:25,079 --> 00:26:28,240
architecture as a grad student. And he thought that was

548
00:26:28,279 --> 00:26:29,960
going to be the best way to kind of combine

549
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,160
these artistic interests and the design and architecture interest that

550
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,720
he has. And so he goes over to friend's house

551
00:26:35,759 --> 00:26:37,920
he's trying to decide where he wants to go to school,

552
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,119
and on the friend's wall he sees this Marcel Broyer

553
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,880
chair and he's he finds out from his friend, Hey,

554
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,480
that's my older brother did this thing. He goes to

555
00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:50,319
Columbia at the School of Architecture and he's like school architecture, really,

556
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,240
He's like, yeah, that's the way to do it. Over there,

557
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,720
they are doing amazing new things with computer that beyond AutoCAD,

558
00:26:56,839 --> 00:26:58,480
and so he's like, Okay, I think this is the

559
00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:00,200
way I'm going to go, and so becomes he was

560
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,599
a grad student at Columbia in School of Architecture. He

561
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,119
actually finishes and is teaching. He's a professor of architecture.

562
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,599
This guy's like our age, right, yeah. Okay, So he

563
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,599
realizes that this is not the way he wants to

564
00:27:13,599 --> 00:27:16,480
spend his life, and so after school he's like, I'm

565
00:27:16,519 --> 00:27:17,119
gonna start.

566
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,759
Speaker 3: Making short films. Okay, So he starts making.

567
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: Short films with his computer and distributing them on the internet. Well,

568
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,519
this is like eighteen ninety six, I mean, this is

569
00:27:27,559 --> 00:27:30,319
who this is. This is pre YouTube, this is pre

570
00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:31,680
I mean we're talking.

571
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,839
Speaker 3: About AOL dial up at this point. Wow.

572
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,519
Speaker 2: And this guy's making short films. And so he starts

573
00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:39,759
this little company with a friend of his called KD Labs,

574
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,200
and their tagline is we are interested in exploring the

575
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:48,880
blurred boundaries between architecture, film and graphics. So these short

576
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,240
films get out on the Internet and he gets invited

577
00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:54,720
out to go to La. He gets hooked up with

578
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,240
David Fincher in LA in the nineties. Wow, who gets

579
00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:04,039
him a job an advertising production company called Anonymous Content

580
00:28:04,519 --> 00:28:06,839
and he starts doing commercials.

581
00:28:07,079 --> 00:28:08,519
Speaker 3: Told you, dude, that's the way it.

582
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,079
Speaker 2: Is, Like, I mean, Tony Scott, Ridley Scott. Making commercials

583
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,039
leads to movies. This guy, So let me talk to

584
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:16,799
you about the commercials that he's done. I sent you

585
00:28:16,839 --> 00:28:19,559
the Sab commercial, which you know again Tony Scott. So

586
00:28:19,599 --> 00:28:21,119
he did this awesome Sab commercial.

587
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 3: Right.

588
00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 2: He did Halo three Starry Night if you want to.

589
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,480
If you know that commercial, it's impressive. He did the

590
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,400
Chevy Baby one, he did the Gears of War Mad

591
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,680
World one. He's done a ton of these awesome commercials

592
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,160
and he was there whenever YouTube was new. So I

593
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,200
went and I looked at it. He's got like four

594
00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:43,400
hundred and thirteen followers on his YouTube channel because he

595
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:48,039
hasn't posted anything in thirteen years, but it's.

596
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,319
Speaker 3: All of his commercials, right.

597
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 6: Huh.

598
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: Well, thirteen years ago is when he gets a knock

599
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,839
at the door and they said, hey, we'd like you

600
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,640
to do the new version of Tron for us.

601
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,359
Speaker 3: Wow. What an incredible story that is. By the way, yeah,

602
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,960
have you seen child Legacy? I mean I have not known. Okay,

603
00:29:05,079 --> 00:29:07,359
it's a lot like a Ridley Scott or Tony Scott movie.

604
00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:10,079
The visuals are out of this world. Right, It's a

605
00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:13,079
bit long and boring. Okay, you know right, that's kind

606
00:29:13,079 --> 00:29:15,319
of what I That's what I got. Visually stunning.

607
00:29:15,359 --> 00:29:17,359
Speaker 2: If you look at his old commercials, They are all

608
00:29:17,519 --> 00:29:21,400
obviously heavily computer and CGI driven, and he does a

609
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,000
great job with it. And you are not big fans

610
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,400
of CGI, but he seems like the appropriate choice in

611
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,000
twenty ten to be the guy that does a movie

612
00:29:32,039 --> 00:29:34,240
where the guy's stuck inside of a video game, right, right,

613
00:29:34,359 --> 00:29:36,559
he seems to be the obvious choice for that. It

614
00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:38,359
didn't turn out as well as they wanted it to,

615
00:29:38,759 --> 00:29:40,359
but leads down some rows.

616
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,319
Speaker 3: Right. Sure.

617
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: So around the same time twenty ten, he is writing

618
00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:47,440
a graphic novel as a story idea for that he has,

619
00:29:47,599 --> 00:29:51,559
and that is what becomes Oblivion. Yes, Tron was filmed

620
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,880
in March of twenty twelve, released in twenty thirteen. He

621
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,480
was supposed to do a third Tron, but Disney was like, no,

622
00:29:57,759 --> 00:30:00,519
this wasn't well received, We're not going to do another one. Fortunately,

623
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,400
he goes on to do Oblivion. He then does Only

624
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,079
The Brave, which I mean that's not a CGI movie, right,

625
00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:10,960
I mean, that's you've got some fire effects, but it's

626
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:13,880
all very realistic. And so you can see this kind

627
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:19,000
of gradual progression of this guy from heavy computer Sure,

628
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,160
and now what we've got with top Gun Maverick is

629
00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:25,799
we don't want any appearance of CGI at all.

630
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 3: Yep.

631
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: And fortunately with this guy, I think he's good enough

632
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,440
that if it's there, it's going to be so good

633
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:32,279
we're not going to know it.

634
00:30:32,359 --> 00:30:34,319
Speaker 3: Well, that's the goal, right, By the way, have you

635
00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:36,960
seen Only the Brave? I have not. Let me tell

636
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,640
you about it. No, please don't.

637
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,759
Speaker 2: I'm talking to Jason on the phone and he's like, oh, hey, yeah,

638
00:30:43,839 --> 00:30:46,680
so and Only the Brave. This moment is so impactful,

639
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,759
and it's I'm like, are you telling me what happened

640
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:51,039
in the movie? And he's like, oh, but don't worry.

641
00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:52,200
That's not really what happened.

642
00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 3: Is other thing. I'm like, no, stop telling me, Stop

643
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,480
telling me what happens. So that is our spoiler warning, right,

644
00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:03,000
that's our warning. We will have spoilers very shortly. But

645
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,480
we got just a few more couple things to talk about,

646
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:06,839
and then we're going to go watch the movie and

647
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,640
tell you what we think. Yep. Okay.

648
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: So when you were talking to me, you're like, so

649
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,839
this is Joseic Kazinski's and Tom Cruise's second team up.

650
00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:18,599
Speaker 3: Together, right, yeah, Oblivion. Oblivion was first. Yes, he was

651
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,799
going to do a movie called Go like hell, go

652
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,559
Like Hell. I saw him on this.

653
00:31:24,599 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: It was on Comic Con and he was with the

654
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,319
director of the new Jurassic World movies and Robert Rodriguez

655
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:33,319
and him, those three guys, and they had different questions

656
00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:34,839
for him, and they're like, Hey, what's the movie that

657
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,279
you were super excited about that got canned, you know,

658
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:38,720
went into development?

659
00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: Hell whatever?

660
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,039
Speaker 2: It was right, and he was like, oh, well, I

661
00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:43,200
had this movie that I was going to do called

662
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,720
Go Like Hell. It ended up being Ford Versus Ferrari. Oh,

663
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,279
he goes yeah, we just couldn't get the budget that

664
00:31:49,319 --> 00:31:51,240
we wanted for it. And the guy's like, well, how

665
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:53,680
close were you? And he goes, well, had Tom Cruise

666
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,079
and Brad Pitt doing a table read for me. Whoa

667
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,920
And the director of Jurassic Park Rustic World was.

668
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,559
Speaker 3: Like, what so this is really their third team up.

669
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:07,920
It's just that the second one didn't work out. Wow.

670
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:11,119
You have the two guys from Interview with a Vampire

671
00:32:11,319 --> 00:32:15,519
back to do another movie. I mean wow, I mean

672
00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:17,240
two of the biggest movie stars of our time.

673
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: Really, to be honest, yeah, absolutely so. Can you imagine

674
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,240
Fod versus Ferrari with Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt instead

675
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:26,519
of Matt Damon and Christian Bale. That would have been yes, please, yeah,

676
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,680
I mean talk about your recasting of movies. That would

677
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,160
have been something spectacular, fantastic. I can't figure out. I

678
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,920
don't know if they ended up getting more money after

679
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,240
he left the project or what. But obviously they didn't

680
00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:38,680
spare expense on that movie.

681
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: That seems like a sure thing. I don't know why

682
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,599
they demanded that one, but right, Okay, so you got

683
00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:44,359
anything else, tell me what you got. Okay, I want

684
00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:46,400
to add one more thing before we move into the

685
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,319
spoiler zone here. Okay, I've just seen Tom Cruise out.

686
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,599
You know, he's doing the publicity right now. Again, we

687
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,519
haven't seen this movie just yet. Tom Cruise was asked.

688
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,000
They were like, did you ever think about showing this

689
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,880
streaming along with the theaters? Is never? Never, never, right?

690
00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:06,440
This is a in theater experience movie, and I really

691
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,279
I give it up to him for that. Tom Cruise

692
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,680
is a lot of things, but what he's really good at.

693
00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:13,839
He's a great movie star, and he is a cinema lover,

694
00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:18,720
and he is giving us a movie that deserves to

695
00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:21,519
be watched in the theater. Let me just say this.

696
00:33:21,839 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: We kind of gushed after we saw The Batman together, right,

697
00:33:25,599 --> 00:33:27,079
and we saw it in Imax.

698
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

699
00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:30,319
Speaker 2: Now, after that, I talked to friends who had seen

700
00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:34,319
it who were upset with the sound quality. They were like,

701
00:33:34,319 --> 00:33:36,680
I felt like they were whispering the whole time. And

702
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,000
I know, as a guy who watches movies at my house,

703
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,759
sometimes the loudness of the sound effects or the loudness

704
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,839
of the soundtrack gets overwhelming and I feel like I

705
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,880
don't want to put the subtitles on, but I can't

706
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,039
hear what people are saying, and I am going deaf.

707
00:33:51,119 --> 00:33:55,559
But okay, but there's something about an Imax theater where

708
00:33:55,599 --> 00:34:00,000
the sound is so perfectly designed that I didn't even

709
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:03,200
those weren't even thoughts that remotely occurred to me as

710
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,839
we were watching it in the Imax theater. And so

711
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,400
we're gonna go watch this one Imax.

712
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 3: I want to urge.

713
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 2: Anyone who can go see any movie that's big and

714
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,559
beautiful like this, go see it on the Imax. And

715
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:18,119
even if it's not this big beautiful movie, go see

716
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:20,960
it because I think the sound design is even better

717
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:23,960
and won't be distorted like it is on your home

718
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,440
theater or if you try to stream it on HBO

719
00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:28,280
when it comes out in a month or whatever it is.

720
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: So please do this.

721
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 2: Movie the justice, And if you've got a four D

722
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,760
theater near you, you need to go see that because

723
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,320
there are moments in this movie where you're going to

724
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,599
be side view in a F eighteen jet.

725
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:46,599
Speaker 3: I mean, Hugh making my own face here. I can't

726
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,440
I can't wait to go see this movie.

727
00:34:51,559 --> 00:34:54,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just real quick before we head to the theater.

728
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,960
Everybody talks about how awesome Tom Cruise is and how

729
00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:01,480
much passion he has for all of U projects, especially

730
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:05,639
this one. After Top Gun the original, he became a pilot.

731
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,760
He owns his own planes. He was the guy giving

732
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,199
instructions to these actors, and he said that this movie

733
00:35:12,679 --> 00:35:14,280
is a love letter to aviation.

734
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 3: I can't wait. He legitimately thought that the Navy was

735
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,880
gonna let him fly an fad. No, they were like, uh,

736
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:22,440
not so much.

737
00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:22,599
Speaker 1: No.

738
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 3: But he did land a helicopter at a screening just

739
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,599
the other day. I saw him landed the helicopter like

740
00:35:28,639 --> 00:35:31,519
a frickin' boss. And God often went to his premiere.

741
00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:34,760
It is too exciting for us to talk anymore. Let

742
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,079
us go buy our popcorn and check out this movie.

743
00:35:38,199 --> 00:35:41,239
Let's go that you are now entering the spoiler zone.

744
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,079
Whoa there, buddy.

745
00:35:42,119 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 2: Before we jump into the spoiler zone, we have got

746
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,000
a special little treat from the guys from a Film.

747
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,119
Speaker 3: By Bredon Jeffer of the Film by podcast. Let's hear

748
00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:53,039
what they have to say. Brad, you want to know

749
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:55,480
who the best podcast is? That's them.

750
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,599
Speaker 5: Surely you can't be serious podcasts. It's the way they

751
00:35:58,639 --> 00:36:01,239
talk completely sure them elves about the movies and music

752
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,719
from the eighties and nineties. You believe they were on

753
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,360
set or in the recording studio, whatever movie your album

754
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:06,920
they discussed.

755
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:09,639
Speaker 6: Well, let's hope their show is a target rich environment

756
00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:12,400
for this promo. Hey everyone, this is Brad and Jeff

757
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,199
from a Film by Podcast. We love what Dean Jason

758
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,320
do and we welcome you to check out a Film

759
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:23,719
by podcast or right discuss Oh sorry, Jeff, we discuss

760
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,719
the underrated films of our favorite directors.

761
00:36:26,639 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 5: And every other week on our limited series nineteen eighty six.

762
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,599
We're on a mission to determine whether eighty six was

763
00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:35,559
the best year for cinema in the nineteen eighties, as

764
00:36:35,559 --> 00:36:38,280
well as decide what was the best movie of nineteen

765
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,039
eighty six? You mean Big Trouble On Little China could be,

766
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:45,679
but hey, it's also the year that gave us Top Gun, Aliens,

767
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,239
stand by Me, Crocodile, Dundee, critters, Barris Bueller's.

768
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: Day Off critters.

769
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 6: Jeff, come on, seriously.

770
00:36:52,639 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 5: I am serious, and we're discussing them all.

771
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 6: Well, check us out a Film by Podcast. D Jason,

772
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,679
we love you both, but the plaque for the alternate

773
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,039
is down in the ladies room.

774
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: Brad, you kill me, you really do?

775
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no no, there's two f's in Jeff.

776
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,679
Speaker 2: Boys, Oh my gosh, the quotes are going to be

777
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,960
rich in this episode.

778
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 3: I cannot wait.

779
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: Guys, truly great podcast that you have. Thank you very

780
00:37:18,559 --> 00:37:20,800
much for doing that for us. We look forward to

781
00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:22,599
listening to what you guys have to say once you

782
00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:23,719
get to see the movie, mad Wick.

783
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 3: That's right, be sure and check them out over at

784
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,039
a Film by Podcast.

785
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: Now it is time to jump into the spoiler zone.

786
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,960
We have seen the movie now, yes, and I can

787
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:40,199
say a long time ago, in a movie theater far

788
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,280
far away, we saw an amazing movie. Yes, and then

789
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,639
we came back thirty something years later and we saw

790
00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:51,840
another amazing movie that was very much like Top Gun,

791
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,000
but also very much like Star Wars.

792
00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: It really was. We both agreed that this was really

793
00:37:56,519 --> 00:37:58,400
kind of a retelling of Star Wars.

794
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: Right, So, just in case you didn't catch it, we're

795
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,880
about to spoil the heck out of this movie. So

796
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,119
if you don't want to hear the spoilers, run away.

797
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,280
But I'm not going to give away what I think

798
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,360
are probably the best parts. I'm just going to tell

799
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,280
you great stuff coming right, sure, sure, Okay, So we

800
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,079
started off this movie with virtually an identical introduction from

801
00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:18,000
the original movie.

802
00:38:18,039 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 3: I loved it. It was a love letter to the fans.

803
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 2: It absolutely was. And I get to say for this

804
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,840
whole movie, if you are going to take a movie

805
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,920
that has the nostalgia that is attached like the nostalgia

806
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,800
is to Top Gun, this is a lesson on.

807
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 3: How to do that.

808
00:38:33,519 --> 00:38:33,679
Speaker 5: Right.

809
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 2: They let us in with this beautiful throwback to the

810
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,840
way that we saw things when we first saw Top Gun.

811
00:38:41,159 --> 00:38:44,719
They ended it in a very similar style. It was

812
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:48,800
spot on. Hey fans, we're here for you. But also,

813
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,559
here's another great story that is very unlike the first story.

814
00:38:53,639 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, this really blew my doors off, so I appreciate

815
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,360
the effort and the time. You know, we talked about

816
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,599
how this was a love letter not only to aviation

817
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,239
but to movie fans. Yeah, if you like cinema, this

818
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:06,559
was a love letter to you.

819
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 2: Yep, this is a way not to screw it up.

820
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,840
There have been tons of screw ups that have happened

821
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,280
in the past. I've ventured to say even Joseph Kazinski

822
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,000
probably had a lesson to learn from doing the Tron

823
00:39:16,159 --> 00:39:18,440
Legacy because it didn't really pay off the way that

824
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,800
the original did. But what he did with this one

825
00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:22,159
was a masterpiece.

826
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 3: It was fun, It was a little less rock and roll.

827
00:39:24,679 --> 00:39:26,719
It was definitely more concentrated on Maverick.

828
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: The story. I expected a deeper story and I got one.

829
00:39:30,119 --> 00:39:33,360
This one, it's true, was not full rock and roll

830
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,239
all the time. You got plenty of fast jets, you

831
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,159
got good looking women, you got good looking guys, you

832
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,920
got guys who are kicking butt, and it's all kinds

833
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,480
of awesome. But there is a much deeper plot line

834
00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:49,239
behind this one than from the original movie. Yeah, which

835
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,639
is not super hard to do because the original movie

836
00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:53,480
did not have a super deep plot it was about

837
00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:55,639
rock and roll in the sky, right, Yeah, but.

838
00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: It wasn't deep it was. It was still a very

839
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,159
much popcorn movie, very enjoyable at least two like bust

840
00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:05,840
out laughing moments. Yes, that were very real. So even

841
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,519
though I thought the movie was sort of more serious

842
00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:11,360
in tone, it was still tons of fun. The aerial

843
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,239
combat stuff was amazing.

844
00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: So let me talk about a few of the things

845
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,960
that we talked about in the early half of this episode.

846
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,960
Right in the first half of this episode. Number one,

847
00:40:20,119 --> 00:40:23,639
I mentioned the Dark Star. Yes, that is You're gonna

848
00:40:23,639 --> 00:40:26,519
get that right off the bat, and it is awesome.

849
00:40:26,599 --> 00:40:29,239
It is a great introduction. It lets us know where

850
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,320
Maverick stands, like how he's grown as a human being

851
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,559
and not grown as a human being. It is very

852
00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:42,239
well executed and lays the foundation for the story at hand.

853
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:42,519
Speaker 3: Right.

854
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,039
Speaker 2: It is a it's a foreshadowing of what's to come.

855
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,840
They then bring us into very similar circumstances, like we're

856
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,599
going to go back to training, right, but it's not

857
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,800
police academy at all. Right, it's it's not back to

858
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,039
the miner. Yes, it's it is. It is some genuinely

859
00:40:58,079 --> 00:41:00,480
good stuff. They've got a woman who's now part of

860
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:02,840
the Top Gun crew, and what they're doing in this

861
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,679
one was a little more in line with what we

862
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,239
talked about Top Gun being really like where each squad

863
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,559
sends their top pilots to learn and then go back

864
00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:13,880
and teach. And what we've got in this one is

865
00:41:14,159 --> 00:41:15,880
those guys are coming back again.

866
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,519
Speaker 3: It's like, not just.

867
00:41:17,519 --> 00:41:19,679
Speaker 2: The best of the squads, it's the best of the

868
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:20,880
best of the squads.

869
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,079
Speaker 3: It's like the best of Top Gun. Yeah. Yeah, I

870
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:27,039
gotta say there's a sequence involving an F fourteen. Okay,

871
00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:29,840
so that was like my favorite part of the entire movie, right.

872
00:41:29,679 --> 00:41:32,559
I have to say I talked about this first half

873
00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:34,679
of the episode. You know, the fact that there was

874
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,400
an F fourteen Tomcat in the trailer, and I was like,

875
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,280
I don't know how they're gonna bring that. Is this

876
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,199
a flashback?

877
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 2: What is it? It is the best payoff in the

878
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,679
whole movie, in my opinion, and they lovingly refer to

879
00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:48,880
it as a bag of ass.

880
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 3: And not only is it a great moment when that

881
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,920
thing comes back in, but the whole use of the

882
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,880
F fourteen is beautiful. And I'll say this, Okay, so

883
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:03,800
we've seen two kind of Hey, we're re redoing a story.

884
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:04,320
This year.

885
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 2: We saw The Batman, we saw this one. The Batman

886
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,239
I loved, but it didn't deliver as well in the

887
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,199
third act. Same problem I had with The Dark Knight,

888
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,920
same problem I had with Batman eighty nine. This one,

889
00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:18,599
I think the third act was probably the best act

890
00:42:18,679 --> 00:42:20,519
of the whole movie.

891
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:25,679
Speaker 3: Totally agree. The climax and then the second climax, We're

892
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,719
out of this world, blow your socks off, awesome popcorn fund.

893
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,159
Speaker 2: We had a couple of points of no return and

894
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,840
they delivered like we probably had three to four points

895
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,039
where you're just like, I don't know how they're going

896
00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:40,119
to get out of this one. And it wasn't contrived.

897
00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:42,599
That's what I loved about it. None of this was contrived.

898
00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:45,480
Everything was like, Okay, that makes sense. I mean, they

899
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,960
they sold it. They didn't give us something that we're like, okay,

900
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:55,159
come on, really, No, this was all spot on, great

901
00:42:55,519 --> 00:42:57,119
storytelling from beginning to end.

902
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: I will say this, so before we saw the movie,

903
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:04,320
obviously we didn't know about it. No slider, no viper,

904
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,480
no gesture, no sundown, none of the guys from the

905
00:43:07,519 --> 00:43:12,159
first movie except well, you have Maverick. You have Iceman,

906
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,480
and you have Penny Benjamin, and you have Goose.

907
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 2: You know, well, yeah, there's talk of Goose. There's some

908
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,719
flashback moments, but yes, see.

909
00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:20,639
Speaker 3: The ghost of Goose.

910
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:25,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't get Obi Wan saying use the force,

911
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:26,559
but we got pretty darn close.

912
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 3: There was some very close similarities.

913
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,559
Speaker 2: So big spoilers coming along here. Well, part of what

914
00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:35,519
they have to do is hit a like three meter

915
00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:36,480
wide target.

916
00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 3: Hey, we used the bullseye wap rats back home on

917
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,440
our T sixteen. It's not much bigger than two meters right, right.

918
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 2: And you have an outlaw member of the Top Gun

919
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,960
crew who saves the day at the end of the Yeah,

920
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:54,000
my god, all clear, kid.

921
00:43:55,559 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 3: What's well? This thing to go home? Hey, you know

922
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,599
what one of the funniest moments of the night. We

923
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:01,639
were standing in line.

924
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, this is the best.

925
00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:05,159
Speaker 3: It's the best moment of the night.

926
00:44:05,199 --> 00:44:08,199
Speaker 2: So Jason's wearing his top gun shirt, right, he's got

927
00:44:08,199 --> 00:44:10,280
his top gun shirt on. We're standing a line. I

928
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,920
don't even know why we're standing in line because we

929
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,519
have assigned seats, but I guess, you know, we're like, oh,

930
00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:17,519
we're dumb fans. So we're standing in line and this

931
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:19,920
guy's in front of us and he goes to Jaycey's like, oh,

932
00:44:20,039 --> 00:44:20,440
nice shirt.

933
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,039
Speaker 3: How old is that?

934
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,199
Speaker 2: And he's like huh. He goes, is it from the eighties.

935
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He's like, no, I got this like a couple of

936
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years ago at Target. And he's like, oh yeah, you

937
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guys excited and we're like yeah, and he goes.

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Speaker 3: Have you seen the original?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, yeah, we caught that one.

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Speaker 3: I almost started laughing and I'm like, I've seen this

941
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movie a thousand times. Have you seen the original?

942
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes we have.

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Speaker 3: That's why we're here on Opening night with my top

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gun shirt on.

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Speaker 2: That's classic. No after credit scenes.

946
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Speaker 3: In case you're wondering.

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Speaker 2: About that, you will have you will have an nice

948
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little epilogue. Let's talk about Penny Benjamin real quick. She beautiful,

949
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but not like overly plastic to you know, I mean,

950
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she looks like a genuinely.

951
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Speaker 3: I think I told you she looks like a beautiful

952
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soccer mom, a.

953
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Speaker 2: Very beautiful soccer mom. But Jennifer Conley has aged exceptionally well.

954
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Speaker 3: Tom Cruise have aged extremely well, and they have fought

955
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their early eyebrow problems. They've got the eyebrows under control.

956
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Speaker 2: I was really hoping that there'd be like a quarter

957
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operated horse on this one. But Sulu, there are really

958
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some great touching moments in this one. The dynamic between Rooster,

959
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who is Goose's son and Hangman, and the dynamic between

960
00:45:44,559 --> 00:45:48,400
Rooster and Maverick and the story of why they're at

961
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odds is great. It's well placed, it makes sense. Just

962
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great movie overall, guys. I super enjoyed it. So let

963
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me ask you this, Jason, Yes, tell me thoughts on

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the movie better or not as good as or as

965
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good as Top Gun the original?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm not thirteen anymore, so this didn't quite strike

967
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me like the original. But the things that it really

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does well are exceptional. So the aerial combat stuff is

969
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stuff you've never seen on screen before. Just the feeling

970
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of being inside of a jet, this I think does

971
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a good job with that, and the relationship part of it.

972
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It's really good. So it's a little less you know,

973
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Talpopp and fraternity boys stuff, but I still loved it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think? This one's better movie to me?

975
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By by far?

976
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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 2: I mean I told you before Top Gun was a

978
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good movie to me, But I didn't love me away

979
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like it did most of the guys my age. This

980
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one is better at the storytelling part of things, which

981
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you know, that's great, That's what I want. But in

982
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my opinion, it's better on the aviation stuff too. It's

983
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the scissors flying, the dives, the g's that you're feeling

984
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with those guys. To me, it was much more, and

985
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it could be the fact that we were watching it

986
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an Imax theater, but it was intense along with great characters,

987
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great story, a history that they build without doing a

988
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lot of exposition. I mean, yeah, to me, Top Gun

989
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Maverick is a better movie than Top Gun.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I got another question for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Top Gun Maverick, Yes, or The Batman.

992
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Speaker 3: I still I like the Batman better. Yeah, I like

993
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the Batman better. But I did enjoy this When I

994
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think I told you just the idea of making a

995
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movie that pleases audiences makes me happy.

996
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Speaker 2: It really does.

997
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Speaker 3: This was directed at fans, and I am very thankful

998
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and I am fully in full appreciation mode from Tom

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Cruise and Jeff Kazinsky. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Joseic Kazinski, by the way, is about our age. I

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think he was born seventy five around our time, and

1002
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so he grew up with this so like we did.

1003
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And so this was you know, Tom Cruise. So this

1004
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is a love letter to Aviation. To me, this is

1005
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Josep Kazinski's love letter to top Gun.

1006
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Speaker 3: I agree with that with that. Hey, one thing I

1007
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wanted to mention to UD, I thought they used the

1008
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Lady Gaga song throughout the movie, just like Take My

1009
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Breath Away. It was underlying, it had that piano key.

1010
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It set the tone for the movie. And I come

1011
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out the other side of the movie liking that song better.

1012
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't. I haven't listened to that song a

1013
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whole bunch. But I did notice on the opening credits

1014
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that they had Harold Fltmeyer, they had Lady Gaga, and

1015
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they had Hans Zimmer all listed at the same time.

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So she's she's got equal billing with those guys. I

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can say. I noticed when Hans Zimmer's music came in

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and they put it in the perfect spot. But you

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had that intensity that only Hans Zimmer can do during

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those air maneuvers that they were doing. It was intense

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and awesome.

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Speaker 3: One more thing, Yeah, Kenny Loggin's Danger Zone is played

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unmolested and in its original nineteen eighty six form. No

1024
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added rap, no stupid crap. I'm jacked around with it. It's

1025
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full blown danger zone. It was.

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Speaker 2: When I heard it, I thought it was like maybe

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remastered or redone, but just intensified a little bit. I

1028
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didn't think that it was exactly the same, but I

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thought that they didn't. They didn't mess with it. They

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did it and they were like, Okay, let's how we

1031
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can tweak it and just make it a just a

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smidge better that and I think they delivered.

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Speaker 3: Well, unless they brought in Toto or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Guys, tell us what you think. Be sure and hit

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subscribe or follow on whatever podcast app that you have.

1036
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We are excited to hear what others think of this

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amazing movie, and I strongly, strongly encourage you if you

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can see it in Imax.

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Speaker 5: Do so.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely come back next week. We got Et versus The

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Thing versus Blade Runner.

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Speaker 2: Holy smokes. These movies are forty years old, all released

1043
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a couple of them on the same day, but all

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within a week of each other.

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Speaker 3: For forty years ago, this June Ash Well