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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice

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mix in some vodka. We call it a podcast from

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the Mac of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven

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by Victor Chrysler Dots Jeep Ram. It's Billified, the Bill

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Speaker 2: Well, Hello and welcome Bill's fans. Man. I was a

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now bier today. Thanks for getting your pot on. Thanks

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for telling a friend. That's how we spread the word

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about the pirate ship. We're gonna be doing a separate

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podcast and we'll tell you more about it. Like father,

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like son. What Jamison got to go to his first

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home Bills game? You've seen the Bills in Tampa? What

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don't do this?

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Speaker 3: Huh?

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Speaker 4: All that?

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Speaker 3: Turn me up?

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Speaker 2: Turn you up?

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Speaker 3: Vo? I can't hear myself. Yeah that's good.

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Speaker 2: Too, loud?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Did you have fun? You need to talk?

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Speaker 3: We're on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: You have fun? Okay? What are you doing down there?

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Speaker 3: Though?

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Speaker 2: You're so excited about I can tell you have a

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You're like me. When you think you got something fun,

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you can't help it. You get this dumb lug under

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your face. Guy play it? Yeah, No, I don't know him.

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Speaker 4: I sure in your mouth you freaking stinker. This is

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why you were a poopy pants. And Jameson is cool.

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Jameson swings into the room and everyone looks at him,

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saying he's so cool and very hot and not ugly like.

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Speaker 2: Hiss dad, Come on, man, wow, I.

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Speaker 4: Wanted to be like Jameson and not Bill Morian. Oh

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my god, Bill Morian looks like a raisin. And Jameson

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is so cool and not a poopy pants and dfo

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do not forget to wipe his but after his took

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a fat atomic dump.

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Speaker 2: This is this has become my life. Now all right,

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let's let let's talk a little bit about the Bills experience.

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Did you enjoy it? We tailgated, We went up with

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a guest of Greg Connors. Today. We sat in the dude,

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focus focus here, focus phone down. Let's focus is down. So,

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I mean, what did you think?

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Speaker 3: Overall? I think it was nice. It got a little close,

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like I was on the edge of my seat some

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of the times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well it was close, and I think I

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already knew.

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Speaker 3: We were going to win, so like in the middle

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of the game, I was just shopping on Grail.

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Speaker 2: See, I didn't know we were going to win.

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Speaker 3: I knew we were gonna win. We're the best team

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ever and we're going to the NFL.

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Speaker 2: We're in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I'm ever gonna go to the

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super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I stopped, just stop please? So uh, I think

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you're gonna hear a lot of talk about the defense

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and whether or not it was good or bad. I

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would say this as the game went on, when it

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mattered the most, it was there. Von Miller came back

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from a pretty tough injury. He got a sack. I

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think that this team when it mattered. I mean, look,

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in the second half, the Arizona Cardinals didn't get a

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touchdown except for a return on special teams, which is

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what the dynamic kickoff is supposed to do, and we're

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supposed to see more of that throughout the season. So

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I'm not sure that it was that the defense is

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as bad as people expected. I think that there were

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a lot of penalties. The Bills should have been up

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at fourteen. I didn't think they were bad.

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Speaker 3: I thought they were horrible.

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Speaker 2: I think as as.

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Speaker 3: They left everybody open, you could have broken off because

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no one's gonna throw to somebody who's out about breakoff

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and go to the player.

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Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying, but I think like when

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it mattered, and I think here's here's the thing. The

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first game of the season is always kind of a

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tough one because you don't know really what you're getting.

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I think he got a lot of new names on

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the on the Buffalo Bills, a lot of new players

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out there. For guys who are veterans on the team,

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it's different guys making the plays, not the ones they're

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used to see. I think that Josh looked fantastic despite

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the fumble. You know, two rushing touchdowns, two passing touchdowns.

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plus the two field goals in order to win. That

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maybe the way it has to be with this defense.

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and better as time goes on. And they were very

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resilient and again they didn't give up a touchdown in

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the second half. So for me, I go first game

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of the season, you could walk away going The Arizona

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Cardinals are great. I will say this, Marvin Harrison Junior,

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great player, not an impact in this game. I think

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Kean Coleman Buffalo Bills, taken later in the draft. Impact

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player for the Bills. He had a couple of great catches.

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Speaker 3: That happens all the time, though, people who were chosen later,

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like people like Tom Brady and stuff like that, always

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end up being the better player.

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Speaker 2: Well you would think, yeah, yes, it's it feels that way, but.

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Speaker 3: No, it's but it's almost always that way. If they

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name a great and we'll go look them up, and

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I promise they weren't around.

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Speaker 2: One somebody who was great, it was great.

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Speaker 3: To name somebody, not somebody you know was a round one,

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someone that is just oblivious to you, but you know

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is really good.

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Speaker 2: Was or is playing now?

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. Answer the question.

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Speaker 2: Boy, I don't know that I can actually answer the

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question because I'm trying to. I'm trying to think of

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a There was a player that went number one in

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the draft and he did get the New England Patriots

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to a super Bowl, and then Tom Brady came in his.

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Speaker 3: Face from Florida was just a completely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a bust.

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Speaker 3: He was bad.

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Speaker 2: You're right, and look, it's so, do you know how

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good you have to be to suck at the NFL?

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Really good?

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Speaker 3: You can go into the NFL and you'll always suck.

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Does that mean you're good?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Then well in order to get a look at

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and an opportunity, Jamison for a team to even Yeah,

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but if they just.

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Speaker 3: Let you on the field and see just for a minute,

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like they will make a wish.

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Speaker 2: Kid, that's not the same thing. That's what you said.

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Speaker 3: What you said.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jameson, that's not what all right, let's talk about Uh.

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Speaker 3: Everybody kid would suck on that field. Major.

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Speaker 2: But there will be a lot of talk about the

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Bills in future podcasts as we go on here.

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Speaker 3: But tell them about you that you got. What Tell

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about the hat you got?

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Speaker 2: What about the hat I got from Greg Connors? It's nice,

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thank you.

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Speaker 3: I want to put it looks good from here at

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your head very well, hats don't because you got a

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weird head.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I've had my fashion critique. I've had uh gosh.

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Speaker 3: He went out in a green vest with a red

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shirt under it. And what kind of seeds did you

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have on?

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Speaker 2: Tell them I had on my black black books, black books, well,

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my black books. Why why, why are you gonna do

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this to me, why do you torture books? You know

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what I need? I need a nice drink at an

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upscale bar. That's why I would go to Cobblestone unmade.

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What why are you saying.

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Speaker 3: That find every way to turn?

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Speaker 4: Got it?

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Speaker 2: Cobblestone on Maine, I'm telling you right now. One on

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nine West Main Street in the village of Webster. They

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do you have been there? You have been there and

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they and the food is exceptional. We had Jordan's graduation

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party there and that was it was great his graduation.

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Speaker 3: Everybody was chief in the nachos.

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Speaker 2: Well did you get some nachos? Fairly? Okay, Well we'll

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have to go back to Jordan.

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Speaker 3: Don't even have milk. And that boy was scarfing him down.

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He was just vacuuming it to his mouth.

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Speaker 2: Because the food at Cobblestone on Main is just that good.

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Check it out for yourself. One on nine West Main

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Street in the village of Webster. Talk to me about

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the first h couple of couple of days of school.

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Speaker 3: First, I might even go lie the first I think

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maybe the second day was like the worst day. Why,

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I don't know, just wasn't very good. Like we jumped

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into our stuff. Every class was good besides l A.

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Speaker 2: Every class you just said it was the worst day.

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Speaker 3: One, Yeah, so it ruined it. But no, but like

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everything was like kind of thrown off from me.

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Speaker 2: That's a bit okay. Yeah, but you bounced back on Friday.

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Speaker 3: I bounced back to Friday hours. I really wanted to

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be at school, like I didn't. I wasn't even thinking

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of my head, I can't wait to get home.

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Speaker 2: I was like, just you enjoyed it. Yeah, yeah, and

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you're liking it. Huh, you're making friends.

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Speaker 3: I got a few.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's good. Basketball stuff will start this week.

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Anything that you learned this week? What what are you

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noticing about Fairport? And compared to where you were in Alabama?

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Speaker 3: I think I maybe ahead on the curriculum a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Now. That would be weird because most people think that

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the it would be a little backwards in Alabama. But

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you think you're a little bit ahead.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like because I was just firing through

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questions when they were asking them, like, it's just it

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comes easy to me in science.

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Speaker 2: I love science, okay, And what about what about some

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of the other stuff.

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Speaker 3: Algebra's my favorite class, though, algebra is yeah, mister mister

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Wagner of freaking.

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Speaker 2: Funny, okay, And they keep your attention all right.

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Speaker 3: They make math fun instead of saying thirteen, like, he'll

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never slip up. Instead of saying thirteen, they'll always say Marino,

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like if it's thirteen point five or thirteen point four.

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Speaker 2: I was kind of hoping Miami was gonna lose, but

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they won today. They beat Jacksonville. They were down fourteenth

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three or.

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Speaker 3: I don't really care who they got Xavier le get right,

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or is that the Carolina pathers, No, I think that's yeah,

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it is Jacksonville, Jacksonville. Yeah, Jacksonville's Xavier ly Get.

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Speaker 2: So compare, compare the like the kids in Athens to

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the kids the same. They're the same.

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Speaker 3: Everywhere you go. I promise everybody's a copy and paste.

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Nothing's real. I'm telling you guys. Dad's gonna laugh and

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think it's a joke.

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Speaker 2: I'm not laughing.

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Speaker 3: Everything's nothing's real. Everybody is the same no matter where

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you go. Don't ever go somewhere different. Think everybody's gonna

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be the same, even if you're in a foreign country.

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If you really like break down, who the people are

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everybody's the same, nobody's different.

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Speaker 2: So so then the idea that so then I think,

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right there, you've just eliminated well our hatred, right, why

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would we hate everybody when we're all the same.

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Speaker 3: There's points to hate people, though. What you don't hate Hitler? Uh?

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I mean y'all bleed the same, right, y'all? At least

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he bled the same as you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying that Hitler shouldn't have hated Maybe how

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about that? How would we reverse it? How about we

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flip it that way?

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Speaker 3: Well, well, what about like, so you don't hate him?

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Speaker 2: I didn't say I didn't I didn't hate Hitler. I

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just said that you hate Hitler. I'm saying that you're

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talking about general people, don't. Don't you know?

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Speaker 3: My dad is in the Illuminati, guys, I've seen some things.

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I'm not gonna tell you what he said this morning,

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but trust me, guys.

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Speaker 2: What did I say this morning?

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Speaker 3: I woke up and I saw my dad right on

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above his bed, just going.

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Speaker 2: Swear. Yeah. Okay. Then they go like this, maybe this

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wasn't a good Yeah, maybe this was not a good idea.

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I'd like to know a little bit more about fair

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poor anything else that that's happening in school, that.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna come for me. Guys, I think I think

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I messed up that you have to scrap it. I'm

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not playing huh are you? Yes? I'm dead, Guys. This

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is the last time they're gonna come for me. Who

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I expose them?

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Speaker 2: You know? Good? Jamison? All right, so Jameson, don't believe them.

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Talk to me about with kids and the election coming up?

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Do kids pay attention to they do?

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Speaker 3: They don't even care about who it is. They just

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like Trump because Trump. They think Trump's a badass. That

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boy got nicked in his ear.

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Speaker 2: What, Yeah, you're not a Trump guy.

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Speaker 3: I don't like any of them. They're all corrupt politicians.

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Everybody's losers. Not to scrap the government, but just find

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the right person. There's other people running who will be

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way better, but we just ignore them. They don't have

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It's a system. Yes, nobody's gonna believe me. Everybody listens,

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is gonna be He doesn't always talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Just no, I asked you. I want to hear your

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It's a system.

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Speaker 3: It's all repeated. You'll never see someone who's but let's

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say someone below Trump. You'll never see them succeed. Have

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you when.

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Speaker 2: Someone below Trump by someone trying not to click these things?

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It's not even that, but just it make it annoys

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people listening to the podcast because you're banging and clicking

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and stuff. Talk to me again about what were you saying.

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Speaker 3: But it's just like, you'll never see someone below Trump,

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like even below RFK Jr. Or that's his name, right, yea,

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even below him. You'll never see someone like him succeed.

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But you see how he didn't make it very far

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in the election.

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Speaker 2: Well he didn't make it very far because he was

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an independent.

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Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying. Nobody's like parties are. I

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don't think they're good for the government.

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Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying. So you're saying that you

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feel like the parties eliminate. Yeah, I don't shout potential candidates. Look,

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many years ago, there was a candidate named Ross Perot

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and he was a third party candidate. And what Ross

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Preau did was you have to get so would have

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to be Kamala and Trump would have to approve RFK

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to be in the debates and things. And he wasn't

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getting it because he was getting ten percent in certain

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states he'll be on the ballot.

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Speaker 3: They had to be like, oh yeah, let him come

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up right, yes, okay, And they didn't, but they did

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because they didn't want.

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Speaker 2: Him to well Biden, I think it was originally it

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was Biden and Trump. Neither one of them wanted RFK

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in the debates.

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Speaker 3: But if that feel like, maybe that's because they knew

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he was going to.

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Speaker 2: Win potentially or maybe not win, but pull enough votes

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away from one or the other that it could make

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a difference. Do you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,

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all of a sudden, if it pulled, if it pulled, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They shouldn't have that choice. That's ridiculous. That doesn't even

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give anybody a chance. What's the point of voting.

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Speaker 2: Then, Well, I think you have to vote for what

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the lesser of two evils in your mind is.

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Speaker 3: I guess everybody's evil.

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not saying it's an expression lesser of

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too evil.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying there, but I hear evil. I don't care.

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They're weirdo.

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Speaker 2: Do you know who's running for president?

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Speaker 3: Trump and Kamala Yeah, okay, yeah, I don't like either

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of them. Kamala Harrison, Yeah, Kamala's a weirdo. Trump is

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a weirdo. I don't care what anybody says. I don't

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care if the stops going to college. Brother, they're both weirdos.

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I don't like politics. Okay, I'll love talking about it,

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but I hate them.

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Speaker 2: Why Why do you like talking about it?

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Speaker 3: Because it's I just like talking about like conspiracy theories

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and things like that, because it's things that people don't

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want to hear that they know. Are you like you

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know some of these conspiracy theories are definitely true?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that sometimes sometimes the story gets greater

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later and yeah, but sometimes I'm not saying that they're

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not based in some truth at Like Trump in the beginning.

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Speaker 3: Going back to Trump being corrupted, he's so corrupt that

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he wants to give immunity put to police as if

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like they can't they did a crime, they can't get

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as much time or even any time at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if he's doing that or not.

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I can't come he said that that.

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Speaker 3: He said that he wants to make everything go back

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to how it was. He wants everything back like the

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old days, and police should have their immunity.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what do you.

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Speaker 3: Might as well give everybody immunity. I'll go interview cops

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right now and ask him, do they do you think

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you deserve immunity from being from against against the law,

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for breaking law, for breaking the law? Yeah, And nine

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times out of ten they'll say no, that's ridiculous because

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they use common sense. Yeah, but that's just what he

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wants to hear.

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Speaker 2: He's that's exactly what he meant.

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Speaker 3: But that's what he's It doesn't matter what you said.

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If you're a politician, it's what you say, it's not

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what you mean. Well, that's your whole point.

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Speaker 2: You could be misinterpreting it. It's what I'm saying. You could.

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Speaker 3: That should never happen. You should be able to word

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it to where everybody can understand what you're trying to say,

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because that's when you lose votes, and you don't want

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that to happen, right exactly. So that No, he's smart.

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So I don't think he anybody misinterpreted it. I think

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he meant it that way. No, I know he meant

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it that way. There's no way he didn't mean it

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that way.

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Speaker 2: We went with Great Connors today up to the home

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opener for the bill's Cardinals, and uh, I.

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Speaker 3: Would have punched that guy in the side of his

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mid Oh God, I'm not lying.

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Speaker 2: No, well, no, you need to stop that number one.

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while we were up there, Jamison got a bowl.

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Speaker 3: Of yeah, like kind of like a knock off Chipotle

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bull Yeah, I'm eating it and I'm not anywhere in

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front of the door. Swear to God, the door did

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not hit me. Everybody's walking and just going into normally, just.

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Speaker 2: Hanging on this.

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Speaker 3: I want to we're on the phone.

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Speaker 2: I want to explain something though. Go ahead, you tell your.

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Speaker 3: Story, you tell you say what you're gonna say.

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Speaker 2: All right. What I was going to say to you

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is I said to you.

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Speaker 3: There were people on that wall, and I was like,

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people were trying to get through, and I was just like, skirt,

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I'm gonna just walk to this side. That's why I

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didn't go on the wall.

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Speaker 2: It because I said, stay here. I got to make

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a quick phone call. Go on.

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Speaker 3: Now, I have it in my hand and I'm against

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the other wall. Yes, I go in to eat it. Yeah,

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everybody's going in normally, so it's not like I was

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in the way. He swings it open as much as

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he can, goes under my arms and smacks it out

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of my hand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Your whole your ball, whole bowl. So I look

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over and like there's banana peppers and writes all over

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the floor. And then I see you, and I see

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you go storming off and throw the rest of it away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm trying to go look for him.

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Speaker 2: Well, who what are you gonna look for and do?

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Speaker 3: Ask him, why the hell did you do that?

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Speaker 2: Well, he probably didn't even realize he did it.

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Speaker 3: If I ever feel, If I ever so, he just

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has no feeling in his left arm. I don't know,

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he's numbing his left arm.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe he was drinking and he didn't

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realize what he was doing.

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Speaker 3: Then get the hell out of here. Who's drinking in

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a suit? Out of Bill's game?

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Speaker 2: I don't know a lot of people, a lot of people.

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But the reason we were over that way was I

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was gonna take you up to a suite, and I thought, hey,

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you know what, we're gonna get to crowded up there,

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I'll they hear. So then uh, I found out later

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on that some of the Syracuse players football players were

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in that suite. A quarterback transfer from Ohio State, a

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guy who's a defensive back that's supposed to be taking

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in the first round of the draft. There's all kinds

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of things going on.

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Speaker 3: So I hear the worst?

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Speaker 2: What the worst? Why am I the worst?

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Speaker 3: Because that was a future NFL player that I could

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have gotten a picture with.

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Speaker 2: Well, potentially, yes, And I didn't mean to, uh to

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ruin that for you, But I thought that was God.

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Speaker 3: He did not purpose guy.

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Speaker 2: I know the guy was in there. I did not

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know the guy was in there, and it would have

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been fun. But look, you've got to go hang out.

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I mean, what did you think of the game? Overall?

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Speaker 3: It was all right? I think it was pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Yea.

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Speaker 3: Not as good as the Bucks game though.

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Speaker 2: Well you did go see the Bucks and the Bills,

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as Tom Brady like that. Well, the Bills were on

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it looked like they were coming back to win that

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game in the end. But the Bucks held on, but

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they were better.

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Speaker 3: Brady is the greatest quarterback of all time. There's no debate.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I guess that argument certainly can be made.

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Speaker 3: No debate. I don't care about anybody saying Patrick mahomes

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the great baby's gonna be He's gonna be the greatest.

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Bro No bro, no, no, no, no, no no. I

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don't even want to hear anything.

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Speaker 2: What if they win three in a row? What if

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they do I don't care.

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Speaker 3: If we did it first, you doing it before? Bad?

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, So let's go back to the last argument

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about rap music.

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Speaker 3: I didn't say that they were all the greatest of

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all time. I said that. I think they're better than them,

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but they're not the greatest of all time.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you're saying he's the greatest of all time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the greatest of all time right now. Patrick

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Mahomes is better because he's not a forty five year

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old man right doing broadcasting.

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Speaker 2: Right right?

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Speaker 3: I got you, Yeah, buddy titan A.

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Speaker 2: What is it like, uh? Living with me?

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Speaker 3: It's pretty nice? Yeah, I wish I had a room.

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Speaker 2: I know, it's okay.

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Speaker 3: I need some of stuff in my room.

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Speaker 2: What like, like what I got a desk coming, We

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got the couch bed coming.

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Speaker 3: You wanted that kind of want, like a clothing rack,

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clothing rack besides my.

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Speaker 2: Closet, beside your closet.

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Speaker 3: Besides my closet.

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00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we can we can try to make that.

472
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:25,759
How many times are you gonna print this thing?

473
00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 3: It keeps coming.

474
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,759
Speaker 2: You're gonna you're gonna drain all my ink. Oh it

475
00:21:31,839 --> 00:21:35,480
came out bigger, drained, you drained all my ink. You

476
00:21:35,559 --> 00:21:36,799
got three or four of from there.

477
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 3: It came out bigger though.

478
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,400
Speaker 2: I know, Yes, you're gonna put that on a T shirt.

479
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,240
Where did you get the graphic? From Okay, be careful,

480
00:21:52,079 --> 00:21:54,480
all right, never mind, I'm not creative.

481
00:21:54,839 --> 00:21:57,319
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. I am. I'm gonna bring in some shirts.

482
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,319
My next thing. I'm just gonna do that kiss shirt

483
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,839
thing and then do something on the back.

484
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know what. Jamison did not sleep well

485
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,880
last night, So I got what. Woke up and you

486
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,160
had your jeans all painted. You never stop, You're you're

487
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,519
like you're you got a motor that never quits. Yep.

488
00:22:14,559 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 3: I'm just the greatest of all the time.

489
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 2: You think, so I know. So okay. Uh. Jamison was

490
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,799
also complaining this school only serves pizza. That's why we

491
00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:26,079
should probably get over to Leo's. Another ad.

492
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 3: Oh, another ad, Oh you oh, you slie dog. Another ad,

493
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:32,759
just firing them out.

494
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 2: Leo's has the perfect after school or school lunch snack

495
00:22:37,279 --> 00:22:39,839
for the kids, cookies. You can get twelve packs of collies.

496
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,880
They're all made from scratch writing Leo's Bakery. Choose from

497
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:48,599
chocolate chip, marble sprinkle or oatmeal raisin cookie. Yea yeah,

498
00:22:48,599 --> 00:22:50,839
the Cuban sub is really good over there. Why are

499
00:22:50,839 --> 00:22:53,039
there pick up meals to go from Leo's Deli? And

500
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,039
remember Leo's has fresh baked French bread for just two

501
00:22:57,079 --> 00:23:01,599
dollars a loaf every day. What's the best thing about

502
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:06,599
Leo's Everything on desk, Best Drive in East Rochester open

503
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,960
every day. Talk to me a little bit, and I

504
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,880
don't know if you if you want to the last

505
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,480
time you were on, and we're gonna be doing our

506
00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:18,000
own weekly podcast that we'll start in a couple of

507
00:23:18,039 --> 00:23:20,880
weeks and we'll talk about kind of like living with

508
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,640
each other and things happening in your world. And I

509
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,440
think we're gonna do more of the dad jokes where

510
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,319
you go out on the street and.

511
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,039
Speaker 3: Get the dad jokes.

512
00:23:28,279 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: You don't want to do that, or whatever interviews you

513
00:23:31,319 --> 00:23:35,359
want to do, but uh, here's my my question. You

514
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,839
had talked about your friend Levi and then and a

515
00:23:39,839 --> 00:23:41,680
lot of people were really I got a lot of

516
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,599
feedback on that, just just that you were dealing with

517
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,160
a lot that that's that no kids should have. So

518
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,000
I don't know, Well, it doesn't matter, it's it left,

519
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,000
it left an imprint on you.

520
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 3: It's hard because when I was coming up here, I

521
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,519
had a few friends that I was gonna meet and

522
00:23:58,559 --> 00:24:02,559
then so it didn't really hurt me as much because

523
00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:06,680
I didn't really know them like that, but then they

524
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,440
I think they probably passed away. I think from what

525
00:24:10,559 --> 00:24:14,160
I know, just some people that was around some of

526
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,200
my friends here.

527
00:24:15,839 --> 00:24:18,519
Speaker 2: Some people that were around some of your friends here. Understand,

528
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,960
So like mutuals, mutual friends, friends in Athens.

529
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,799
Speaker 3: Friends in Greece, like the friends I meet up. But

530
00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:31,000
I'm not gonna say any names because like, but some

531
00:24:31,079 --> 00:24:32,880
of their friends I probably would have met up with,

532
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,599
and you know, I think they I think one of

533
00:24:35,599 --> 00:24:36,240
them passed away.

534
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 2: Okay, but I know that there was something that happened

535
00:24:39,839 --> 00:24:42,160
with some of your friends down in Athens.

536
00:24:42,279 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, my friend or a kid I know his name Cedric,

537
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,559
he got into a bad fight and I guess he

538
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,200
ended up shooting two people.

539
00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:55,319
Speaker 2: He did, yeah, Jesus.

540
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, And some of the kids I used to hang

541
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,160
out with are now walking around with like guns and.

542
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 2: Stuff and like because they don't feel safe.

543
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 3: They're just trying to be thugs. Bro, I'm not even

544
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,960
gonna say his name. You know, he's not a thug.

545
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 2: But when we say they're trying to be thugs.

546
00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 3: He's trying to be tough. Noted, No, I understand, Jeremiah.

547
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,319
Speaker 2: All right, listen to me for a second though, because

548
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,720
I don't know what it's like to have that fear

549
00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:24,720
that if I stepped outside my front door I might

550
00:25:24,759 --> 00:25:28,720
get my head shot off. Do these kids feel that way?

551
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,039
Speaker 3: I don't know. I haven't been there in a while.

552
00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:32,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.

553
00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna lie. I was on the phone

554
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,119
the mom. I probably would have been that kid that

555
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,359
Cedric shot if I went to fifth Why because they

556
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,599
wanted me. That's the whole I'm not gonna say too much,

557
00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:44,880
but that's literally the whole point of them coming to

558
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,839
my neighborhood every time and torturing the kid, the people

559
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,200
who lived there at the pool, and just making it

560
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,759
the worst day they were trying to look for me.

561
00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:55,720
It's sort of God. We had to send up people

562
00:25:56,079 --> 00:25:58,279
who owned the neighborhood to kick them out. Police had

563
00:25:58,279 --> 00:26:02,200
to come. What happened, It was a whole long thing,

564
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:08,680
like just jealousy over what, over money, over girls, over.

565
00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: Things like that.

566
00:26:10,839 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 3: It's they're just mad. I'm better than them at everything

567
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,160
they do. Every every time they introduce me to some

568
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,799
up them every single time. They're just mad They'll never

569
00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:19,400
be as good as me at anything in life.

570
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,599
Speaker 2: Hold on a second, let's back this up, because.

571
00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 3: No, bro, there's nothing there and not Cedric, not his friends,

572
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,119
other people, not Jeremiah, because Jeremiah is a good kid

573
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,519
that just is around there. He's not the kids walking

574
00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:37,759
around with guns. But he's just around there and is scared,

575
00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:39,400
and I don't think it's as bad for him. But

576
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:39,920
I don't know.

577
00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: Okay, why were they coming to beat you up? They

578
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:44,880
were looking to jump you.

579
00:26:45,079 --> 00:26:47,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, they were trying to probably trying to kill me.

580
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,000
Why because like you know how I used to do

581
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,720
side hustles. Yeah, well, like I just stopped trying to

582
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,599
make money with them because they'd always try to scam me.

583
00:26:57,759 --> 00:26:58,319
And then.

584
00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 2: I, what were you guys doing.

585
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 3: Cleaning windows, selling shirts things like that?

586
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,039
Speaker 2: Were they cleaning windows with you.

587
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 3: Apparely doing anything? And then when I said I'm doing

588
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,400
all this work, bro, I'm keeping his money, they swear

589
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,799
to god they didn't do anything. I said, I'm keeping

590
00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:13,720
his money. You didn't do anything?

591
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 2: They were like, oh whatever, okay, But then then then

592
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:16,839
they got upset.

593
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 3: Then they got upset later on because they realized they

594
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,119
got joked because they don't use their head. Okay, don't

595
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,160
be bad at me, be mad at yourself. You didn't

596
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,599
do anything. You would have gotten that money, bro, It's

597
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,519
not my fault, okay. And then a girl. I'm not

598
00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:34,039
gonna talk about the girl because she has no like that.

599
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,519
I have no business talking about her. But they're just

600
00:27:38,519 --> 00:27:41,039
mad about her, I guess. And he's not even with

601
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,519
that girl anymore. He's just a loser, okay. So he

602
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,519
just wants me. They want me dead. Of some of

603
00:27:47,559 --> 00:27:49,759
the kids want there want me dead. Is that there

604
00:27:49,799 --> 00:27:51,480
used to be like a whole like group over them

605
00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:53,519
around there, and they all broke up into different, like

606
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,400
not subsets, but just different friend groups that go around

607
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:02,359
torturing people around that area even but just like antagonizing them,

608
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:11,319
breaking windows.

609
00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:08,319
Speaker 2: Robbing a little kids.

610
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, is that part of the reason it's different. Yeah,

611
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,799
it's definitely part of the reason I moved because I

612
00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:20,319
thought it would be safeer here. But yeah, that's the

613
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,759
first murder in Athens in two years. The last one

614
00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:24,319
was a stepdad killing his son.

615
00:28:24,599 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: So your friend Cedric, yeah shot.

616
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,799
Speaker 3: I don't know. He's not really my friend friend, but

617
00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:31,480
we used to be a little close.

618
00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:33,799
Speaker 2: He shot and killed somebody.

619
00:28:34,279 --> 00:28:37,039
Speaker 3: Probably accidentally, I don't know. It was definitely self defense,

620
00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:39,240
though it was all from what I know, it was

621
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:42,359
a kid's father. He shot him and then shot another

622
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,720
kid in the leg. Jeez, dad, if you're getting beat

623
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,680
up by a grown man and you're a kid who

624
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,279
has a gun and another person's jumping you, they have knives,

625
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,119
you're not gonna fire that shot and you have that gun,

626
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,440
I am doing that. I don't care well, right.

627
00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: But I don't even like that you're in that situation

628
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,440
to begin with. Why Why are we putting ourselves in

629
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,279
situations like that?

630
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 3: We said he was putting himself into that situation. He

631
00:29:07,759 --> 00:29:09,640
was put into that situation.

632
00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: Potentially. I don't know the story.

633
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: I definitely know the story. I know him and I

634
00:29:16,759 --> 00:29:17,960
he would not do something like that.

635
00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: Where are they getting the guns from?

636
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 3: Probably illegally, maybe legally, I don't know. Alabama's not strict

637
00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:25,279
on the gun laws. They just had a whole rico

638
00:29:25,359 --> 00:29:29,279
indictment from gas station workers drug trafficking and to miners

639
00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:30,720
and selling alcohol miners.

640
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:36,759
Speaker 2: Okay, so this sounds like but that's heavy stuff. Yeah,

641
00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:40,599
and it sounds scary. I mean, as your father.

642
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 3: I don't A kid I used to hang out with

643
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,799
two his name is I'm not gonna say his name

644
00:29:44,839 --> 00:29:48,440
actually because he's a minor, but he's he's in jail

645
00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:52,400
right now, so yes, yeah, he's from Athens. We used

646
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,240
to hang out a lot all like all the time.

647
00:29:54,279 --> 00:29:55,119
Speaker 2: Why is he in jail?

648
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: I don't know. Probably guns.

649
00:29:57,839 --> 00:29:58,359
Speaker 2: How old is he?

650
00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:04,039
Speaker 3: Maybe you're shooting my age four? Yeah, fourteen fifteen, because

651
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:05,640
when I met him, he was literally free. He was

652
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:11,599
from Chicago. He was fresh out of military school. And

653
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,640
like if I if I like, if he wanted something,

654
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,799
like if he he was like, oh can I get

655
00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:19,200
that bike? I'll give you two switches. Do you know

656
00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:20,759
what a switch is it?

657
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,599
Speaker 2: It's a little button.

658
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,039
Speaker 3: No, what No, it's a little button you put on

659
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:27,880
the back of a glock and it makes it into

660
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,559
a machine gun. And it's illegal, and they made it

661
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:33,759
illegal because when you shoot it, it will dump a

662
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,000
normal mag in two seconds, not even yeah, maybe half

663
00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:37,480
a second.

664
00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: The fact that you know all this stuff I am

665
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:41,880
not comfortable with.

666
00:30:42,519 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 3: If I didn't know what it'd be worse if someone

667
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,240
handed me that. If someone hands me that now, I'm

668
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,720
throwing it away because that's forty years just having it.

669
00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: No, but but listen to me. The fact that that's

670
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,480
even in your world.

671
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 3: It's in your world.

672
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,799
Speaker 2: No, it's not, Yes it is, okay, it's in my world.

673
00:30:57,799 --> 00:31:02,119
But here's the thing. People, well I associate with are aren't.

674
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 3: I don't associate with that kid. I just used to

675
00:31:04,759 --> 00:31:05,400
hang out with him.

676
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: We're okay, we're growing up.

677
00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:09,279
Speaker 3: Now everybody's complaining about oh my gosh about it neighborhood.

678
00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:11,640
We're not kids anymore. Bro, it's too late, Like this

679
00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:14,880
is what happened. We're not kids anymore. Like I was

680
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,680
talking to my friend Holder. He said he can't even

681
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,160
go to the gas station alone anymore because he's scared

682
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,000
he's gonna die.

683
00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: Well, see, this is what I'm saying.

684
00:31:21,759 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: Athens like it moved out of Huntsville, hit Birmingham, it's

685
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,519
coming out of Birmingham, and it's coming to Athens.

686
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: What you're right? My point is this, if.

687
00:31:32,079 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 3: There are cartels in Athens.

688
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,599
Speaker 2: Okay, here's what I'm trying to say to you. At fourteen,

689
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,759
your biggest concern is my homework done? Or should be

690
00:31:43,839 --> 00:31:47,720
that is my no? No for other kids, like let

691
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,920
me finish, let me finish my statement, or it should

692
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,799
be does that girl like me? Or how many points

693
00:31:53,799 --> 00:31:55,599
I am going to score in the basketball game today.

694
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,680
It shouldn't be I'm afraid to go to the gas

695
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,799
station to pick up a drink because I make It's

696
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:07,279
not their fault. I'm not saying it's their fault.

697
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: But it's a bad it's a terrible thing. It's a system.

698
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,319
Speaker 2: But here's the point with you. I don't understand why

699
00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:14,599
that's touching you.

700
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:16,759
Speaker 3: Because I used to when me and Jeremiah were friends.

701
00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:20,440
We everybody was good kids. Everybody was just playing basketball. Everybody.

702
00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:23,000
If you had to fight, you just fight. That's it.

703
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,759
Then it got when we turned like twelve, kids are

704
00:32:27,759 --> 00:32:30,440
maybe a little older, started carrying knives. Maybe a kid

705
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:35,319
got sliced, but no one got stabbed. Now, a kid,

706
00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:37,880
I know who, I'm not going to say his name,

707
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,000
when they got into a fight, literally stabbed a kid

708
00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:43,160
into his chest and the kid ran off with the

709
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,359
knife still in his chest.

710
00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: Jesus, But Jamison, I was a fourteen year old boy.

711
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,079
I got into fights in school, but there was nobody

712
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,279
stabbing each other. We weren't shooting each other. Do you

713
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:56,160
understand what I'm saying?

714
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 3: Like, where did you live in Appalachi? Okay, you don't

715
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:01,920
have to carry a gun in appolation.

716
00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:06,599
Speaker 2: I understand. But here's the thing you don't either. I live.

717
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 3: I don't. I lived in Athens wearing as a nice neighborhood.

718
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,119
Speaker 2: Doing what was in that neighborhood a golf course and

719
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:13,960
who owned.

720
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 3: It a rich person, well, a rich, wealthy white person. Okay,

721
00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:19,599
what are you trying to say?

722
00:33:19,799 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say that there were PGA golfers that yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah?

723
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,559
Speaker 3: What what about it?

724
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: Beautiful home? Why?

725
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,599
Speaker 3: But my point is I didn't even hang out with

726
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,200
Jeremiah when that stuff was going on. We stopped hanging out.

727
00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: Listen to me, And I'm not trying to condemn. What

728
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,039
I'm saying is I would assume there are probably kids

729
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:42,559
in those neighbors in that neighborhood, and they weren't feeling

730
00:33:42,599 --> 00:33:44,000
like they had to carry because.

731
00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: They live in a nice neighborhood and they don't have

732
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:46,759
to fight anybody there.

733
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:48,839
Speaker 2: I got it. So why weren't you hanging out with

734
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:49,720
them where it's safe?

735
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,279
Speaker 3: Because I don't like them, because every person I've tried

736
00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:54,480
to hang out with were racist and I don't like that.

737
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,279
Swear to God on everything I love, and I don't

738
00:33:57,319 --> 00:33:58,759
like that. I don't care if I'm white, I don't

739
00:33:58,799 --> 00:34:01,680
like that stuff. That's just weird me. It's not even

740
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,640
because I have family of color or family who are

741
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,280
not from America. It's because it's just weird. Bro. I

742
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,719
don't care if they do it as a joke. It's

743
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:10,400
not funny to me.

744
00:34:10,519 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: But that was what I was saying to you earlier

745
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,679
in this podcast when I said about hate. That's what

746
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,519
I mean when you say we're all the same, Yeah,

747
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,000
why do we need to hate? When you were talking

748
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,960
about those the kids in your neighborhood, you felt like racist.

749
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,880
That's a former hate, right when we say that.

750
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I don't understand it. So I'm not

751
00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:30,639
even going to try to understand it because there's no point.

752
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

753
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,119
Speaker 3: And the reason they have to do that is because

754
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:37,920
if that kid wins the fight, really, their parents are

755
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,360
probably going to come out of that apartment with a

756
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,199
gun and shoot at that kid. Jeez. But see, they

757
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:43,880
had a party one day at Fifth Avenue and a

758
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,360
dude got mad, pulled out a gun and just started

759
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,800
shooting into the apartment.

760
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:52,159
Speaker 2: And nothing about that seems abnormal to you in any way.

761
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,159
Speaker 3: And it's none of my business.

762
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:57,199
Speaker 2: But I understand that. But my point is we have

763
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,239
come to a real problem in areas of our country

764
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,360
where there's no conflict resolution. We don't have to agree

765
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,760
with everybody, but we certainly don't have to kill them

766
00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:07,480
or shoot.

767
00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 3: You don't get it, well, what's there to get because

768
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,000
if that kid goes and beats that kid up, his

769
00:35:13,079 --> 00:35:14,800
mom is gonna come out with a gun and probably

770
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:15,880
kill their mom or.

771
00:35:16,159 --> 00:35:19,559
Speaker 2: But that's my point. Why is that gonna do it.

772
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:21,639
Speaker 3: Because it's their son and that they're gonna defend their son.

773
00:35:21,679 --> 00:35:23,519
And then it's the same thing if someone beats up

774
00:35:23,559 --> 00:35:25,239
their friend, their friend's gonna come out. And then if

775
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,960
someone's getting beat up, which everybody's fighting, and that kid

776
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,320
has a gun, they're waiting to use their guns. Dad.

777
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,320
Everybody has a gun. Everybody definitely has a gun. They're

778
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,480
just waiting to use it. I know people who have

779
00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:40,239
closets of guns, Like their closet is full of guns, Dad,

780
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,000
But it's not North, it's the South. Everyone has a gun.

781
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:48,039
I know kids who have guns because their parents let them,

782
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:50,159
but they take its arranges. It's not in their name,

783
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,360
I understand, but they have a gun. And if someone

784
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,719
breaks in the house, they can use it and the

785
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,480
charge won't be pressed against the kid. So I don't

786
00:35:56,519 --> 00:35:59,800
know if Cedric is gonna get out of what he's in.

787
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,000
It might be. I don't know if overkills a real thing,

788
00:36:03,079 --> 00:36:05,039
but I don't know if he had to shoot both people.

789
00:36:05,159 --> 00:36:08,719
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790
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791
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792
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793
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794
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know how it got there, your bad home improvement that

795
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796
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797
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798
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799
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everybody's back at school. The place is probably dinged up.

800
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801
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,519
do an entire bathroom remodel. Right, think about it. The

802
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803
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804
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805
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806
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Speaker 3: One thing I got to show you to prove my point.

807
00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: There is no proven the point I think what you

808
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,000
and I are gonna miss.

809
00:37:06,199 --> 00:37:08,519
Speaker 3: Those are literal six year olds.

810
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: Those are six year olds fighting fighting. Yes, okay, look

811
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,599
I understand little boys. I get that. What I don't

812
00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:26,639
get is the escalation to a point where you're saying that.

813
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 3: You don't understand it because you don't have to be

814
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,639
put into that situation. But I've seen it firsthand.

815
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 2: I understand that.

816
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,119
Speaker 3: I was literally at a party and I was just there,

817
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,119
and I was on the street playing with my friends,

818
00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:38,679
and they came out and a Kia Soul and just

819
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,119
started shooting that place up, and bullets were flying over

820
00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:43,920
our heads and in between us, and houses were getting

821
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,119
hit and windows were getting broken, and I had to

822
00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:48,360
hide under cars and then get out of that car

823
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,599
and go under a sewer drain. But until you're in there,

824
00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:55,119
you're never gonna understand it, Like why they did it.

825
00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:57,599
I'm not saying I understand it because that's I do that.

826
00:37:57,639 --> 00:37:58,559
Speaker 2: I do that stuff.

827
00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 3: I don't, but they feel like they have to do

828
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,840
it well. This is, but you never feel like you

829
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,800
have to do it because you live in Fairport and

830
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,360
you don't have to get into fights all the time.

831
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,719
You don't even have a gun. You're not in the South,

832
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,039
though the South is a whole different place. Want that.

833
00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:14,360
I swear to God. If I placed you in the South,

834
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:20,000
you wouldn't understand completely. Everybody in traffic, everybody has a gun.

835
00:38:20,039 --> 00:38:23,360
That's why road rage. When Jackson's flipping people off, I

836
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,239
always tell them birth stopped and that you're gonna get

837
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,199
us killed. You are they? Because it's not illegal. If

838
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,559
you flip somebody off and they shoot at you, they're

839
00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:32,239
probably not going to get that much jail time.

840
00:38:33,079 --> 00:38:38,039
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know. What I'm talking about. Is just

841
00:38:38,199 --> 00:38:41,039
base human decency.

842
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:46,039
Speaker 3: It's always been like this, Okay, since ancient times. It's

843
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:47,880
always been like this, where people feel like they have

844
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,800
to defend themselves because they lost something. They don't want

845
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,239
to fuck up their ego. They have to go kill

846
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:52,719
that person.

847
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,199
Speaker 2: Now, I understand what you're saying. I do, do you, Yes?

848
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,000
But I like to think that we've evolved as a society.

849
00:38:59,039 --> 00:39:02,639
Speaker 3: We've evolved physically, but we're never going to evolve mentally,

850
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:03,599
that's never going to happen.

851
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 2: Maybe some people I disagree, but listen, I want to

852
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,280
I'm serious that this is a great This is a

853
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,800
great conversation because.

854
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 3: Memphis literally became the most dangerous city because one person died.

855
00:39:17,519 --> 00:39:20,440
Young Dolph died, and he was the most respected person.

856
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:25,599
He even has a specific day, November seventeenth to Dolph Day,

857
00:39:25,639 --> 00:39:27,719
because he gave back to so many people. And before

858
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,480
he died, he was he was donating for cancer research

859
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:33,400
in Memphis. Yeah, he died because he was promoting for

860
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,320
a cookie shop he likes to go to. He said,

861
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,440
I go here all the time. The next day they

862
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:43,159
went and killed him. At people forty people that following day.

863
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:48,400
Died that following day, forty people. We can't even fit

864
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,320
forty people in this room. Forty people. There's probably not

865
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,679
even forty people outside walking the streets during the daytime here,

866
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,239
well there are, but maybe not a little not even

867
00:39:59,679 --> 00:40:01,000
that much over though.

868
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: All right, But that but that's how much big of it.

869
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 3: That's a big deal, Dad, And that's why they do

870
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,760
it out because they feel like they have to. They

871
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,199
feel like, oh, you just did this to me. It

872
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,199
was literally a whole trend slide for Dolf.

873
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 2: Okay, slow down for a second because no, no, and

874
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,760
I want you to have a conversation with me.

875
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 3: People will crash out over the littlest things.

876
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 2: Dad. Yes, I see that, and I understand that. But

877
00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:30,440
just hold because the conversation is an exchange of ideas. Okay,

878
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,559
I'm not. I'm not telling you my ideas. I'm saying

879
00:40:33,599 --> 00:40:36,679
to you. What what what you're talking about right now

880
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:43,559
is giving an insight to what we often think about

881
00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:45,000
as an urban problem.

882
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 3: What I mean by urban? Just say it. What do

883
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:48,639
you mean by.

884
00:40:48,679 --> 00:40:53,079
Speaker 2: Urban by city like inner city? And I don't. And

885
00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:55,519
you can say that I'm saying black people and I'm not.

886
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,440
I'm saying I'm saying people that live in well, in

887
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,599
the innocent in a city, but not Okay, I wasn't

888
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:03,920
thinking that.

889
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, the inner city, every inner city is the hood

890
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,360
pretty much, Okay, Rochester inner city is the hood.

891
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,039
Speaker 2: Fine, then label it that I'm not going to Okay. So,

892
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,840
and I feel like when you talk to kids, what

893
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,400
you're going to hear back is I have the gun

894
00:41:20,519 --> 00:41:23,239
because I feel like I need it. My question is,

895
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,280
how the fuck did it get to that level? How

896
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,679
did it get to the level that I'm afraid that

897
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:37,360
I can't. I gotten fights in school.

898
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 3: Just kids, right, yeah, not kids walking around with fully

899
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,119
automatical But this is.

900
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 2: What I'm saying. But what where did that where? Where

901
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,039
did that bridge get crossed? When did it all of

902
00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:49,320
a sudden become police.

903
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 3: I'm not focusing that much on that neighborhood. People focusing

904
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,400
on dumb ass parking tickets, on taxing different people and

905
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,519
not stopping the problem. They're not focusing on the problem.

906
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,119
They're just doing what they think they need to do

907
00:42:03,159 --> 00:42:04,920
and not really what needs to be done.

908
00:42:05,039 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 2: Okay, but hang on a second, though, because my argument

909
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,800
I'm answering, No, I I know that, but I'm going

910
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,639
to answer back. I'm going to argue back, government's job

911
00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:14,679
isn't to be your parent.

912
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about the government.

913
00:42:16,039 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 2: Well, when you're talking about police, that's a government agency. Okay,

914
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:22,039
Well that's government. That's a problem. That's their problem. But

915
00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:23,159
it's not their problem.

916
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:24,119
Speaker 3: There's problem.

917
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: How are they supposed to go into the house and

918
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,119
sit down. Why you're supposed to start? You can I

919
00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:32,639
sit down and talk and have dinner with you every.

920
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:33,679
Speaker 3: Night because you love me?

921
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, and I want to talk to you and

922
00:42:36,039 --> 00:42:39,199
I want to hear about your day. And but that's

923
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,280
where this ship ends. So that's where this ship goes away.

924
00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:43,199
Speaker 3: Right.

925
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:48,119
Speaker 2: But you you spoke, You spoke a great thing, you said,

926
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,639
a fantastic thing. You said. Since the beginning of time,

927
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,280
when people's egos are hurt, they'll go out of their

928
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,360
way to hurt.

929
00:42:57,559 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 3: Social media plays a big part in that dish. Yes,

930
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,239
this song isn't even the biggest part. It's it's history.

931
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,960
Like I'm not even talking about history in the US.

932
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,360
Every and I'm not trying to sound corny, but every

933
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,760
hood has a history, yes, and that history will never

934
00:43:13,039 --> 00:43:17,199
end unless there's some some break in time and someone

935
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,400
just finds the holy Grail of hoods and fixes to

936
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,639
the problems. But that will never happen.

937
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 2: Okay. But but listen, there used to be.

938
00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 3: There's not that. There's no there's not even a point.

939
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,320
This will never end.

940
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 2: I okay, But here's what I would say. I think

941
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,079
that times when you start to feel good about yourself,

942
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:41,320
you don't need to go defend. You said to me,

943
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:47,119
like you've read things about me on the internet, horrible things. Yeah,

944
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,159
and you said to me the other day. What did

945
00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:52,760
you say? How come these things don't bother you?

946
00:43:53,159 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

947
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,519
Speaker 2: Now, sometimes there was, there was I'm gonna tell you something.

948
00:43:57,519 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: There are sometimes where you did care. I but listen,

949
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:02,599
some people just can't get to that point. Some people

950
00:44:02,679 --> 00:44:05,039
just can't work to get to that point like you

951
00:44:05,079 --> 00:44:09,199
did because you had to. They are just like, fuck it,

952
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,800
I don't care. I'm gonna go kill that person.

953
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, but can't you also realize that the people that

954
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,480
are taking the shots are the ones that are jealous

955
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,039
and wish they had what you had.

956
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,039
Speaker 3: They're not thinking like they have to go work for it.

957
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:22,360
They're thinking like they have to go take it and

958
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,360
not go get it and work for it. They want

959
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,400
to go take it, Dad, They want to go take it.

960
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:35,360
They're people are literally laving, labeling themselves Boogeyman's and grim Reapers, saying,

961
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,360
don't go outside and take the trash out or I'm

962
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,760
going to make you a victim. I can't even go

963
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,920
take the people can't even go take the trash out.

964
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:46,039
They're gonna die because they took the trash out.

965
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 2: Well because but.

966
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're just gonna do that right then and there. See,

967
00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:52,880
it's just it's always gonna be problem. They're trying to

968
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,920
get you when you're vulnerable. Yes, Dad, this will never

969
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,119
And these people literally have disorders, Dad, right, and I'm

970
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:00,880
talking about.

971
00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I agree with you on that. My

972
00:45:03,159 --> 00:45:05,840
bigger concern with you is it's crazy how I don't

973
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,840
like how much exposure you.

974
00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:12,159
Speaker 3: That it's with you. You didn't have a much exposure

975
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,159
because you didn't have social media. You weren't friends with

976
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:17,840
these people. You weren't in those areas. You literally lived

977
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,960
in the middle of nowhere pretty much. I grew up

978
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,559
another and another thing. What was I going to say

979
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,239
a time when police a good time? When I when

980
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,320
police go and kill people, they feel awful, right, Like

981
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,559
they feel like they have to throw up. These kids

982
00:45:31,679 --> 00:45:35,719
are literally hot to go kill somebody, like they are begging.

983
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,920
They're trying to get a striker and go kill somebody.

984
00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:41,360
Why because they feel like they have to do it.

985
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,320
It's the state. When as going to happen?

986
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 2: Well, when you're saying things like they're begging, what do

987
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,920
you mean begging? Well, you just said.

988
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,599
Speaker 3: They're begging to go get it. They want to go

989
00:45:49,679 --> 00:45:51,639
kill that person they have to.

990
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: Who is the what makes what? What does somebody have

991
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,440
to do to have an offense that.

992
00:45:58,639 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 3: They feel like they want to kill somebody. Yeah, like

993
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,639
what name something that would happen. Yeah, So let's say

994
00:46:03,679 --> 00:46:06,920
your best friend died, right, your best friend, y'all did

995
00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:09,679
some crazy things together, and not even in no diddy way,

996
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,079
but y'all did some illegal things together. He was your brother,

997
00:46:13,159 --> 00:46:15,119
like he was always there by her side, never switched up,

998
00:46:15,159 --> 00:46:17,760
never did anything wrong. Someone goes and takes his life

999
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,159
in the most brutal way possible. Maybe let's say he

1000
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,079
died how young Dolph died. He's just trying to go

1001
00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:25,400
get cookies, be a wholesome, just go go about his business,

1002
00:46:25,639 --> 00:46:27,239
and someone kills him while he's trying to go about

1003
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,320
his business. If someone if someone went and killed you,

1004
00:46:31,039 --> 00:46:33,480
I'm going to go kill that person. I'm going to

1005
00:46:33,559 --> 00:46:34,519
go find that person.

1006
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: But don't you think that that's part of the problem.

1007
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:37,920
And I wouldn't want you.

1008
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 3: To do that part.

1009
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want you, but I feel.

1010
00:46:40,599 --> 00:46:42,159
Speaker 3: Like I have to do that. But it doesn't matter

1011
00:46:42,199 --> 00:46:44,280
what you want, Yes it does, but it doesn't matter

1012
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,559
what that person want. Maybe that person who died didn't

1013
00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:49,280
want that to happen, but they're not thinking of that.

1014
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,639
You didn't tell me not to do it.

1015
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: I'm telling you now, Okay, then I won't do it.

1016
00:46:54,119 --> 00:46:58,079
But but all these things like it has to end somewhere.

1017
00:46:58,199 --> 00:47:01,159
Speaker 3: It won't it never will. They thought the same thing

1018
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,719
back when the mob. Do you think these conversations didn't

1019
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,440
happen when the mob was around? The gangs are just

1020
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,239
gonna get worse. I'm not gonna lie, these gangs are.

1021
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,639
Hang on a second, Yeah, there's no yo.

1022
00:47:11,679 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, whoa, Hang on a second. I gotta stop

1023
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,360
you there, because you were talking about apples and oranges

1024
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,719
in this stuff. Like the mob was organized crime. They

1025
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,679
entered in and I will tell you that they kept

1026
00:47:23,679 --> 00:47:26,320
the streets clean and the streets of parts of New

1027
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,360
York City safer than the police ever could. They did

1028
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,960
not all not to endorse, but they but their killings

1029
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:39,519
were not They were all people involved in their organization.

1030
00:47:39,679 --> 00:47:43,079
Someone again cutting into my turf. If I'm if you

1031
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,760
didn't say that, you said, some mother is gonna come

1032
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,559
out and shoot a kid for fighting her son.

1033
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,559
Speaker 3: That's just one that's just one thing.

1034
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:55,599
Speaker 2: But that's but that's what you're talking about. Were you

1035
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,400
not once? Has there been gang mentioned other than I

1036
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,599
don't feel safe in my neighborhood. That's why I'm carrying

1037
00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:05,719
a gun. You never mentioned anything about gangs.

1038
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 3: Dad, This whole conversation is about gangs. These kids killing

1039
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,119
people are in gangs. How did you not pick that up?

1040
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:13,519
Speaker 2: That's what this is about.

1041
00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 3: What the fuck you think normal people are just going

1042
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,119
out and killing people. Know, it's all organized crime.

1043
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: But it's not organized crime. What you're saying is okay,

1044
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,719
But what you're saying is you were not.

1045
00:48:25,639 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 3: Thinking from your perspective.

1046
00:48:27,039 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 2: Yes, you're thinking as a middle aged whitead.

1047
00:48:30,519 --> 00:48:34,039
Speaker 3: Almost everybody there's NBA players in gangs, but not NBA.

1048
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:36,360
My mom thinks it's just bloods and crips bloods and no,

1049
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,760
it's subsets. It's subsets.

1050
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:39,599
Speaker 2: I understand.

1051
00:48:39,679 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 3: Like there's the beads and gds. Those are like the

1052
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,480
bloods and the crypts of Chicago and this is the

1053
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,800
Black Peace Stones. But there's sets like three hundred, six hundred,

1054
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,719
nine hundred. It's block names.

1055
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:52,519
Speaker 2: Okay, but take me back to when you're talking about

1056
00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:56,719
your friends. Yeah, so your friend who just shot somebody,

1057
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,320
the guy you knew, mother or I he was a friend,

1058
00:48:59,320 --> 00:48:59,840
I don't know.

1059
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,079
Speaker 3: But probably in a gang.

1060
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 2: Probably.

1061
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 3: I don't know about him that much, but I'm not

1062
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,239
gonna lie. He's probably in a gang. Yeah, more than

1063
00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:09,559
nine times out of ten. I don't know him that well,

1064
00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:10,559
but that's what I'm.

1065
00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:12,639
Speaker 2: But what was the shooting over you said he was?

1066
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I know that it doesn't matter

1067
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,280
if he if he's like, I don't know that much

1068
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,119
about it. I just know two people were trying to

1069
00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:23,599
fight him. One person got stabbed there too.

1070
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 2: Do you think that the people trying to fight him

1071
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:26,440
we're in a gang?

1072
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 3: Probably? Maybe? I don't know.

1073
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: See, I'm not sure that a lot of this stuff.

1074
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: But Athens, Athens isn't gang stuff. I'm not talking about Athens.

1075
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,320
When I'm talking about retaliations, I'm talking about Rochester, I'm

1076
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,920
talking about Chicago. I'm talking about because Athens really isn't

1077
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,280
the hood. It's kind of turning into the hood. But

1078
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,000
there's nobody going out for retaliation, going out in blood.

1079
00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:50,960
Maybe now they're going to start doing it because of

1080
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,480
what just happened. Probably now now it's this is what happens.

1081
00:49:56,119 --> 00:49:57,920
This is that baking. So do you put into the

1082
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,239
vinegar that makes everything blow up? That killing just fucked

1083
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:08,559
everything up. Depending on who he just killed, that killing

1084
00:50:09,559 --> 00:50:12,639
will go on and ruin the city forever.

1085
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 2: So you're saying that it'll be like tit for tat.

1086
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 3: It'll be tit for tat. This is going need to

1087
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,280
be a war, Dad. Wars are not just what's going

1088
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,760
on in Afghanistan. There are things you don't know that's

1089
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,599
going on. People you don't know that are dying, things

1090
00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:28,400
that are not going because when it's statistics about murder,

1091
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,480
it's the murders they know about. Yes, a lot of

1092
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,800
these missing people aren't missing. I had a mutual friend

1093
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,480
named June that I told I don't know if you

1094
00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:40,679
know about my mom knows about. There's a gang he was,

1095
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,519
I guess involved in a gang in Huntsville, and he

1096
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,239
five or four people above the age of twenty nine.

1097
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,360
He's fourteen, go out, kidnap him, kill him, dismember his body,

1098
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:57,519
and put him in the woods. It's a war. Why

1099
00:50:57,639 --> 00:51:00,960
because he's in a gang. Because I had fourteen in

1100
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,719
the game team Dad, these kids are eleven in in gangs.

1101
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,480
Some of these kids stealing kios are ten.

1102
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't okay, I don't know what to say.

1103
00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:16,880
Other than I don't. I really am bothered by the

1104
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,480
fact that you were.

1105
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 3: I'm put I was put into this world. That's not

1106
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,440
my fault. I'm not around it, but I know about

1107
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,280
it because I know about it.

1108
00:51:26,199 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 2: Jameis, you just sat here and said, these are people

1109
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,519
that you interacted with.

1110
00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 3: I didn't interact with June. I said that was a

1111
00:51:32,519 --> 00:51:35,800
mutual friend. Okay, I don't interact with any other people. Okay, stuff,

1112
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:36,960
I've been on that planet once.

1113
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,599
Speaker 2: I've been on the planet thirty nine, thirty eight people

1114
00:51:40,639 --> 00:51:43,760
like this thirty eight or thirty nine years more than you.

1115
00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:47,719
I have friends who have died at young people as young.

1116
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:48,679
Speaker 3: How do they die?

1117
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 2: Drunk and driving motorcycle acts, speeding?

1118
00:51:52,599 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 3: Where did they die? Get corners right round? There's no

1119
00:51:57,039 --> 00:52:00,800
gang violence for Keepsie. There's gang violence Kingston gang violence,

1120
00:52:01,159 --> 00:52:02,079
not Clinton Corners.

1121
00:52:02,199 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 2: No, I understand that. But my point is that there

1122
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,280
wasn't gang violence in Kingston. There might have been a

1123
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,639
little bit of stuff in Poughkeepsie.

1124
00:52:09,679 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 3: There's gang violence in Kingston.

1125
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 2: Now that maybe now I'm saying that there wasn't right.

1126
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,719
And so the fact that it's even touched your world

1127
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,199
to this degree, because it's I don't know the.

1128
00:52:20,199 --> 00:52:21,599
Speaker 3: World and you don't even know about it.

1129
00:52:22,599 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 2: How's it touch my world?

1130
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,039
Speaker 3: You don't dad. A lot of the stuff you have

1131
00:52:26,199 --> 00:52:29,800
right now, you don't know where it came from. Or

1132
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,400
a lot of people you're around you don't know who

1133
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,000
they're connected with. Like you told me today, there are

1134
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,960
connections I don't know about, right, Yeah, there's connections you

1135
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,920
don't know about. Okay, you don't know who the people

1136
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,800
you hang around with, really you don't know, because dude,

1137
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:42,960
does Dan know everybody?

1138
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 2: You know?

1139
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 3: Be honest, everyone you know? Does he know Rob? Does

1140
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,039
he know who's connected with Rob? Does he know who's

1141
00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:50,880
connected with those people?

1142
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:51,039
Speaker 2: Know?

1143
00:52:51,079 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 3: He doesn't. But there are connections you don't know about.

1144
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,679
This spans on forever. You are definitely connected with these

1145
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,800
gangs that you don't know about, but not connected that way,

1146
00:52:59,079 --> 00:53:01,400
but there are. You can get to those gangs from

1147
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:02,199
the people you know.

1148
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: Okay, But listen to me. The fact that that that

1149
00:53:06,119 --> 00:53:08,400
just never enters my thinking.

1150
00:53:08,119 --> 00:53:09,199
Speaker 3: Because it doesn't have to.

1151
00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 2: It never will, right exactly, So why is it so

1152
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:12,960
in yours?

1153
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 3: Because I wasn't around that, but I was around it.

1154
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,320
I was in that city. The city is like the

1155
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:24,400
city of Athens is the size of Fairport. Yes, Athens

1156
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:25,000
is small.

1157
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,559
Speaker 2: Yes, so I know we walked all around it.

1158
00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 3: We literally walked to the other side of it, and

1159
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,559
it took us an hour and we took stops and

1160
00:53:32,599 --> 00:53:37,559
we were not even walking right. So I'm always going

1161
00:53:37,639 --> 00:53:41,159
to be ten minutes from those gunshots. Literally, I'm always

1162
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,280
I hung out with those people. That's why it's mutuals. Yes,

1163
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,679
Cedric was a good kid. Cedric is a good kid,

1164
00:53:48,519 --> 00:53:51,000
but it's a bad city, like Kendrick Lamore's album Good Kid,

1165
00:53:51,199 --> 00:53:51,800
Bad City.

1166
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 2: I understand people are.

1167
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 3: Put into these situations. People don't put themselves into these

1168
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,960
situations most of the time. A lot of people are

1169
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:02,639
forced to do it after a mental health problems start.

1170
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,199
Speaker 2: Like forced.

1171
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 3: A lot of people are forced into gangs. You don't

1172
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,920
think they are. You think they choose to do it.

1173
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,320
If you don't want to be in that gang. Sometimes

1174
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,719
they will beat you until you die. They will kill you,

1175
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,719
they'll cut your head off, They'll they'll exile you. They'll

1176
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,599
strip you naked and send you out into the public.

1177
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,960
They did that to a dude named jah Wu in Brooklyn.

1178
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,480
They stripped them button naked. Livestream that beat them up

1179
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,760
in a van on Instagram Live and then toss them out.

1180
00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:32,119
And then because of that, those people that he beat

1181
00:54:32,199 --> 00:54:34,000
up that kid, who's could licks I know, but that

1182
00:54:34,119 --> 00:54:37,079
Jahu kid went out and killed somebody, a thirteen year

1183
00:54:37,079 --> 00:54:40,920
old kid, or not even Jahu, his friend, a thirteen

1184
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,880
year old kid coming back from a Brooklyn Nets game,

1185
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,400
a walking back in his jersey.

1186
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 2: Listen to me for a second, though, because I guess

1187
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,320
what I'm trying to say is, let me go back

1188
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,159
to the fact that you're immersed in this.

1189
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,599
Speaker 3: You're immersed in it and you don't know about it,

1190
00:54:56,639 --> 00:54:57,800
but I know about it.

1191
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,679
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not immersed in it because it's not it's

1192
00:55:01,679 --> 00:55:03,719
not what I think about. But I think this stuff

1193
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,159
upsets you, and I think you are very.

1194
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 3: I hate seeing the people I love going down the

1195
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,880
wrong path. I try to tell people that all the time.

1196
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,320
They just don't want to listen because, and you're not wrong.

1197
00:55:14,639 --> 00:55:17,400
Sometimes they you don't have to do it sometimes, but

1198
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,280
a lot of the times you do. And when I

1199
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,840
know that people don't have to. Like I stopped Jeremiah

1200
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,440
from doing something stupid. I'm not gonna say what he

1201
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,360
was gonna do, but it wasn't anything crazy, it wasn't

1202
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,800
anything but just a fight that could have gone left,

1203
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:34,159
like what happened with Cedric, but and then he stopped

1204
00:55:34,159 --> 00:55:38,920
doing it. And some kids who vape but they're athletes,

1205
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,679
like they have a future, they stop doing it because

1206
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,039
they don't have to do it. But these kids who

1207
00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:50,800
have nothing, you can think that they have something. But

1208
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:55,559
until you know, and we're literally in their house, unless

1209
00:55:55,559 --> 00:55:58,079
you were in those apartments, unless you were in his bedroom,

1210
00:55:58,119 --> 00:56:01,599
you'll realize that kid had absolutely nothing but that life

1211
00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:04,719
and thought that was the only way to go about it,

1212
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,480
because that's the only way the people around them went

1213
00:56:06,519 --> 00:56:10,039
about it. I'm not talking about Athens, only talking about

1214
00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:13,159
Rochester too, I know, even all the way just Rochester.

1215
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,639
Speaker 2: Yes, I see it. I know exactly what you're.

1216
00:56:15,519 --> 00:56:17,039
Speaker 3: Saying because these kids feel like.

1217
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,639
Speaker 2: But here's my thing. You don't have that I don't.

1218
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 3: But I know that. I keep telling you. You keep saying

1219
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,039
the same thing. I know the people.

1220
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:26,159
Speaker 2: Why do you know the people?

1221
00:56:26,159 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 3: It's said that you know the people. These were good

1222
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,280
kids before I knew them. I wasn't around them when

1223
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,360
this happened, So that just clears out the question. We're

1224
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,199
gonna ask or the question you've been asking. They were

1225
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,920
good kids and still are good kids. My mom even

1226
00:56:39,039 --> 00:56:42,239
knows that these kids who are doing these things are

1227
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:47,239
good kids. She knows it, she's met them. They are

1228
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,320
literally sweethearts, but they have to do what they have

1229
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,119
to do, and it's sad.

1230
00:56:55,039 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 2: Why were they Why were they coming to your don't

1231
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:02,800
never mind, I don't want to know. Here's what I want.

1232
00:57:03,119 --> 00:57:05,599
I want you to be happy. I want you to

1233
00:57:05,639 --> 00:57:09,119
be safe. I don't like this stuff. I didn't know

1234
00:57:09,199 --> 00:57:11,480
this was all gonna come out. I'm not sure what

1235
00:57:11,559 --> 00:57:13,280
to do with this podcast.

1236
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,559
Speaker 3: And no one in Athens or Rochester he's gonna listen

1237
00:57:15,559 --> 00:57:18,199
to your show, So don't even worry about that. And

1238
00:57:18,239 --> 00:57:20,280
if they do, no one's gonna do anything. No one's

1239
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:21,400
gonna go out and kill you.

1240
00:57:21,519 --> 00:57:23,559
Speaker 2: No, I don't think anybody's gonna come and kill or anything.

1241
00:57:23,679 --> 00:57:25,840
I think what you have given is a little bit

1242
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,679
of insight into what goes on.

1243
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,239
Speaker 3: Anybody thinking I'm giving information or snitching on everybody, you're not.

1244
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 2: You didn't say anything.

1245
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 3: You think that. Stop stop because you like I am

1246
00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:44,280
telling public information. This is public information. You can literally

1247
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,000
go look up this news article all this stuff. Guys, No,

1248
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:49,800
I understand that you understand that.

1249
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:50,119
Speaker 2: Dad.

1250
00:57:50,159 --> 00:57:53,239
Speaker 3: This goes back to again, this is not your world.

1251
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,920
Maybe I'm wrong and there are people who I'm talking

1252
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:57,880
about in our listening.

1253
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 2: Well I think that I don't see she has your TikTok?

1254
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:06,199
So who's TikTok? Never mind your TikTok Okay, listen to

1255
00:58:06,199 --> 00:58:09,440
me for a second. What I'm trying, what I'm what

1256
00:58:09,559 --> 00:58:12,800
I think is what you have done here. This evening is.

1257
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 3: Let you guys know, so when you go out and

1258
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:19,199
say something, you don't sound stupid because listen the people

1259
00:58:19,239 --> 00:58:22,960
listening to this majority of you guys. Yeah, never ever

1260
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,800
ever in your life we're around these people. You don't

1261
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,840
get it. Please stop getting yourself into these, these these conversations,

1262
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,000
these arguments and debates, and you know absolutely nothing about it.

1263
00:58:34,159 --> 00:58:36,400
And even if you're arguing on the game of her sides,

1264
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,880
you're arguing from statistics and not from what you know.

1265
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,039
Because I was arguing against them and with them in

1266
00:58:41,079 --> 00:58:44,239
this podcast. So please use the information I just give

1267
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,519
you and put it into your knowledge. Let's put it

1268
00:58:46,519 --> 00:58:47,360
into your head.

1269
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: Please, guys, this is what I'm trying to say to you.

1270
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,199
What you have to slow down.

1271
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,159
Speaker 3: I just I'm looking out for them because I know

1272
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:55,079
some of these people like.

1273
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 2: To be You're very passionate and you're young.

1274
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 3: What You're very passionate, but you need to chill out.

1275
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:02,639
Speaker 2: I didn't say that.

1276
00:59:02,679 --> 00:59:06,039
Speaker 3: I hope you didn't those words lift that. I don't know.

1277
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 2: No, I said, you're very passionate and you're young. And

1278
00:59:09,519 --> 00:59:11,960
what I'm what I want to say is what I

1279
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,079
think you did hear was give some insight to the

1280
00:59:16,119 --> 00:59:20,760
psyche of people in certain areas in the hood, as

1281
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,800
you labeled it, the psyche being I don't feel safe.

1282
00:59:25,639 --> 00:59:28,159
I don't know what's coming next. I don't know what.

1283
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,119
Speaker 3: Aunt At one point the last time, I.

1284
00:59:31,119 --> 00:59:34,039
Speaker 2: Was fit that that ship bothers me Jamison, because that

1285
00:59:34,159 --> 00:59:35,400
isn't the stuff that I want.

1286
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 3: You. You're not there anymore.

1287
00:59:37,079 --> 00:59:37,719
Speaker 2: I understand.

1288
00:59:38,559 --> 00:59:44,039
Speaker 3: Mom didn't put me into those cities. I stop. I was.

1289
00:59:44,079 --> 00:59:46,800
I'm going to tell you a story, guys. I was

1290
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:51,000
at their basketball court and I was just chilling and

1291
00:59:51,039 --> 00:59:52,559
my teacher's party was going on. I went to say,

1292
00:59:52,559 --> 00:59:54,199
what's up to my teacher? It was it was nice.

1293
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,880
She told me about the other day. I told her

1294
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,119
to her face. She doesn't want to listen. Do not

1295
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,320
throw your party there. That is the worst place to

1296
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,960
throw it. They said why, Well, if you have to

1297
01:00:08,079 --> 01:00:11,159
question why, and I'm telling you, and I'm there every

1298
01:00:11,199 --> 01:00:13,920
single day of my life for the past two years.

1299
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,519
I've been going there, and I'm telling you not to go.

1300
01:00:16,719 --> 01:00:19,800
Just don't go. Just reschedule and put it somewhere else.

1301
01:00:20,239 --> 01:00:23,400
And that's what they should have done. So they nothing

1302
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,519
happened to them, but it caused a problem. That's mainly

1303
01:00:27,559 --> 01:00:29,840
what I was worried about. I'm about to tell you.

1304
01:00:30,679 --> 01:00:32,519
They didn't finish our food and they gave it to us.

1305
01:00:32,559 --> 01:00:35,280
It was about twenty deep and it was just me

1306
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,119
Day Day and Jeremiah and you know, both of them

1307
01:00:38,159 --> 01:00:41,559
good kids, very good kids, but like they fight like

1308
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,519
I fight. And you don't know about it, but I've

1309
01:00:43,679 --> 01:00:47,199
had gotten a lot of fights there almost every time,

1310
01:00:48,119 --> 01:00:51,920
and this is one of those times. So they start

1311
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,679
throwing cake and I'm not worried, Like I'm not talking

1312
01:00:54,719 --> 01:00:58,079
to them. I'm trying to stay away. They're just meat riding,

1313
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,639
just like oh say, oh j j oh, he's got

1314
01:01:01,679 --> 01:01:03,440
it on and they're trying to tease me. They don't

1315
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,920
mean it, and I'm just like, whatever, Bro, I'm not worried.

1316
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:12,000
So then like we're walking off after we got into

1317
01:01:12,119 --> 01:01:14,440
like a little scuffle, not a fight, no fists throwned,

1318
01:01:14,599 --> 01:01:20,800
just food throwing at each other. Then we're with me

1319
01:01:21,039 --> 01:01:24,199
dating and Jeremiah are walking away, and we're young, a

1320
01:01:24,239 --> 01:01:30,519
little younger. Jeremiah has the right idea to say, excuse

1321
01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:35,480
my French, fuck you pussies, y'all are pussies. And they

1322
01:01:35,519 --> 01:01:38,679
take off, and I take off before them, and I

1323
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,880
go into the woods and I'm hiding. Day Day's hiding

1324
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,199
in the creek because at this point the kids are

1325
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,039
like using knives. I'm hiding, Bro, I don't want to

1326
01:01:46,039 --> 01:01:47,639
die what I'm not gonna act like they're not going

1327
01:01:47,719 --> 01:01:54,239
to use it, So I'm hiding. Jeremiah's dumbass is with them,

1328
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,960
walking with them as if he planned this. This is

1329
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,320
not his fault, this is past. We've squashed this, there's

1330
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:06,159
no problem between us. We He literally leads them to me,

1331
01:02:07,559 --> 01:02:09,000
but I don't think he meant to do it, but

1332
01:02:09,039 --> 01:02:14,679
he just wasn't thinking. And day Day is hiding in

1333
01:02:14,719 --> 01:02:17,239
the creek. So like it's a field, like almost like

1334
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:21,119
a farmer's field. There's this of the field. The creek's

1335
01:02:21,159 --> 01:02:25,559
like right here. Then I'm right here, you see, Yeah,

1336
01:02:25,639 --> 01:02:27,360
So I'm on the side of it. Dada is in

1337
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,719
the front, so we're pretty much one hundred yards from

1338
01:02:30,719 --> 01:02:33,280
each other. But he data is fast, so he'll get there.

1339
01:02:35,039 --> 01:02:39,119
Jeremiah leads them to me. Now, Peyton, cam and Jamarion

1340
01:02:39,199 --> 01:02:44,599
come in. Jamaron walks out. They try to fight. They

1341
01:02:44,599 --> 01:02:47,360
push me. Jeremiah pushes them back and says, you better

1342
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,639
tighten the fuck up and then punches them. Then they

1343
01:02:49,639 --> 01:02:51,000
punch your mynd back and I pushed one of the

1344
01:02:51,039 --> 01:02:53,119
kids into a prickly Bushy's trying to pull himself off.

1345
01:02:53,559 --> 01:02:55,119
Then they say two v two right now, we're going

1346
01:02:55,119 --> 01:02:58,400
outside into the field. Then we start fighting. They're trying

1347
01:02:58,440 --> 01:02:59,920
to beat me up, and I have closed out my

1348
01:03:00,039 --> 01:03:02,559
grandma just gave me, and me and this Peyton kid

1349
01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:05,000
are holding onto it, and me and Peyton are cool now,

1350
01:03:05,079 --> 01:03:08,559
but we definitely had problems. And we're pulling onto it

1351
01:03:08,599 --> 01:03:10,840
and he hits me, and I hit him as hard

1352
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:12,840
as I couldn't in his shoulder, which is the arm

1353
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,360
he's holding the bag with, and he drops it and

1354
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,360
I put it back on. Then they keg me, which

1355
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:18,760
is when you know what that is. They could kick

1356
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,159
you in the back of the leg and you collapse.

1357
01:03:21,079 --> 01:03:23,400
Then they beat me up. They're kicking my head, they're

1358
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,800
kicking my arms, they're kicking my stomach. They're just jumping me.

1359
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,639
They're stopping me out nothing, they're not stopping my head.

1360
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,480
Jeremiah takes off running. I'm just there. I get back up.

1361
01:03:32,519 --> 01:03:35,280
I'm pushing people off me. Then I got my fist

1362
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,440
up and I'm throwing. I'm punching, like there's eight people

1363
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:45,280
jumping me, and I get my stuff back. They try to.

1364
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:46,920
They take all my stuff out of my bag and

1365
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,960
they throw it and they like, this is not my

1366
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,719
fucking side anywhere, and then give it back. Now Dada

1367
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,920
comes out and he comes to running get me, and

1368
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,239
he gets me. Then we run back over because Jeremiah's

1369
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,360
trying to start something because he's like, oh, they're gonna

1370
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,519
beat up. Let me be able to say something so

1371
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,880
they can't say that I ran away. He's losing. We

1372
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,920
come up, we come help him. Then Dada gets slammed

1373
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:12,840
from behind, literally sueplexed. Then Dada gets back up, picks

1374
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,599
the kid up, and it's like, I'm not because Dada

1375
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,960
really could. Dada said this, and he's not lying. He

1376
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,920
could have killed that kid if he wanted to. He

1377
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,679
had him just like this and could have dropped him

1378
01:04:20,679 --> 01:04:21,920
on his neck day. So I'm not gonna do him

1379
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,840
like that. I'm just let him beat me up. Then

1380
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,559
they go back down to the ground, the kids rest

1381
01:04:25,599 --> 01:04:29,000
on them. Then Dada's turning red, so we're kicking Peyton

1382
01:04:29,079 --> 01:04:31,960
off of him. Then this kid, Jamarian and Cam pull up.

1383
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,519
They say, bruh, you're gonna have to and I'm even

1384
01:04:34,599 --> 01:04:37,079
mocking them. Don't call me racist. This is literally how

1385
01:04:37,079 --> 01:04:39,320
they talk. I'm not gonna lie. I'll call them right now.

1386
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:41,159
I'm not gonna lie.

1387
01:04:41,239 --> 01:04:41,519
Speaker 2: Bruh.

1388
01:04:42,159 --> 01:04:44,239
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to open up your cash at Brouh

1389
01:04:44,639 --> 01:04:47,039
and there's less than twenty dollars in there. Oh God,

1390
01:04:47,079 --> 01:04:49,079
we're gonna have to fight. Jamar is like five to

1391
01:04:49,159 --> 01:04:55,079
three at this time, bro whatever, So I open up

1392
01:04:55,079 --> 01:04:58,159
my cashop and my smart ass says, I don't let

1393
01:04:58,199 --> 01:05:00,199
him see it. I swear to God, I say, yeah, yeah,

1394
01:05:00,199 --> 01:05:02,159
there's nothing in here. We're gonna have to fight, So

1395
01:05:02,159 --> 01:05:04,400
what's up. I dropped my bag and we start fighting,

1396
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,960
and this whole time I swear to God, I'm not

1397
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,800
saying that guy's This literally happened on everything I love,

1398
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,039
right hand on the Bible. They said, they've been saying

1399
01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:13,920
this the whole time. I wasn't telling you this because

1400
01:05:14,039 --> 01:05:15,880
like it's not it doesn't matter, but like right here

1401
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:17,880
it matters. They said, I'm not gonna lie you real

1402
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,880
as fuck. But Jeremih, we know he's gonna go snitch

1403
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,519
to his parents, and that's not a lot. Jeremah used

1404
01:05:21,519 --> 01:05:23,800
to go tell his parents everything. But his parents used

1405
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,480
to tell all around and the kids would get in trouble.

1406
01:05:27,639 --> 01:05:28,960
It's not Jeremih's fault.

1407
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 2: Well that's that's kind of that's pretty normal. But well

1408
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,840
that's pretty normal that you would tell your parents and

1409
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,480
they would say, hey, man, you got to get your

1410
01:05:38,519 --> 01:05:39,079
kid under.

1411
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:40,519
Speaker 3: I had a whole knife in my bag. I don't

1412
01:05:40,519 --> 01:05:41,639
stab anybody.

1413
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 2: Why did you have a knife in your bag?

1414
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:44,639
Speaker 3: Because I used to walk because everybody used to walk

1415
01:05:44,639 --> 01:05:45,599
around with the knife in their bag.

1416
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 2: Christy go on.

1417
01:05:49,079 --> 01:05:51,719
Speaker 3: Then they try to beat me up and I'm fighting

1418
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,320
and then I push them off, and Cam's like, I'm

1419
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,760
not gonna lie you real, blah blah blah, and Jeremih's like, yeah, right, bro,

1420
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,239
whatever and are trying to fight Jeremiah. And at this

1421
01:06:01,239 --> 01:06:03,519
point I'm ready to fight, and my mom calls me,

1422
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,280
thank god, I love you, Mom. You literally saved us.

1423
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,079
It would have been a bigger brawl. It would have

1424
01:06:08,079 --> 01:06:11,440
been an eight v three because at this point everybody

1425
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:17,119
was just standing around Daya and Peyton and I thank god,

1426
01:06:17,159 --> 01:06:18,480
we were walking away and I tell him, bro, I

1427
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:19,800
had a knife my bag of Jerema. I was like,

1428
01:06:20,599 --> 01:06:22,800
why didn't you use it? Why didn't you give you that?

1429
01:06:23,119 --> 01:06:25,760
Why the fuck didn't you give that? Okay, because I

1430
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,199
don't have to stab anybody over something so little. It's

1431
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,760
not that big of a deal. This is why you

1432
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,679
don't need a weapon, buddy, right, because you don't know

1433
01:06:34,679 --> 01:06:37,440
why not to use it. And he thinks, well, but

1434
01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:40,239
like if I had, you know us, and I'm getting

1435
01:06:40,239 --> 01:06:42,480
beat up, it's self defense. No, because if it's not

1436
01:06:42,559 --> 01:06:44,239
your name you're getting you're going.

1437
01:06:44,159 --> 01:06:50,719
Speaker 2: Well if you need a good defense attorney Steve Serky, Well,

1438
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,639
I'm just saying like, if you find yourself accused of

1439
01:06:53,639 --> 01:06:55,880
a crime he didn't knowingly commit, or maybe you get

1440
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,960
yourself into a DWY situation, give him a call a

1441
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,000
five eight five three five twenty five to ten. The

1442
01:07:01,039 --> 01:07:04,320
best preparation is what they're all about. They leave no

1443
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,239
stone unturned. And here's what a defense attorney it's real

1444
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,599
deal is Jamison. His real deal is to protect your

1445
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:14,639
rights and freedoms so you're not trampled over. Because as

1446
01:07:14,679 --> 01:07:17,719
you say, and you've said this in this podcast, these

1447
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:21,239
are good kits in a bad situation. Right, so these

1448
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,239
could be good people in a bad situation. The rights

1449
01:07:24,639 --> 01:07:28,360
they You have the right to have your rights and

1450
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,639
freedoms protected, but you need an expert to do that,

1451
01:07:30,719 --> 01:07:33,159
and you're not going to find anybody better than Steve

1452
01:07:33,239 --> 01:07:36,159
circu five eight five three eight five twenty five ten.

1453
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,360
Please tell them Billified told you to call the best

1454
01:07:40,239 --> 01:07:42,679
in the area. I think Steve may be one of

1455
01:07:42,679 --> 01:07:46,159
the best in the in the country five eight five

1456
01:07:46,199 --> 01:07:48,119
three five twenty five ten. Or you can email through

1457
01:07:48,159 --> 01:07:51,400
their secure contact page at circulaw dot com. This got

1458
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:54,320
way more intense than I in tell for ya. No, no, no,

1459
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:55,920
it's not. It's not about yapping.

1460
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,599
Speaker 3: What I think you're trying to educate everybody.

1461
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's a very very good thing because

1462
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:06,559
I think oftentimes we wonder why is this happening? And

1463
01:08:06,639 --> 01:08:10,639
I really do Jamison still think because as you talked

1464
01:08:10,639 --> 01:08:15,239
about ego, if you could put your phone down, I

1465
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,520
still think that it has to do with self esteem

1466
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,520
and if I feel good about myself, I'm not gonna

1467
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,720
let others tear me down if I'm on a path

1468
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,520
to do well. Do you understand what I'm saying? Differently,

1469
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:28,640
I know it is, but it's hard to get on

1470
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:32,119
a path to do well when everything around you is

1471
01:08:32,199 --> 01:08:35,319
falling apart. People are angry, things are upset. I don't

1472
01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:36,560
know why I get into fights.

1473
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 3: I used to go to Jeremiah's house and like when

1474
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:40,600
everything was going wrong, like right after LEVI, I thought

1475
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,760
I was just fighting people every single day. Means jeremih

1476
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,960
Esus could not go to the park without fighting why.

1477
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:47,840
I don't know. This kid robbed me for a coin

1478
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,279
that my great grandma had in a necklace and I

1479
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:52,800
never got it back, but that day he had his

1480
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:54,800
hands in my pockets, and I swear to God, I'm

1481
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,039
not lying, Like I don't know everything. Jeremiah's fighting camp

1482
01:08:58,079 --> 01:08:59,880
camp slips on water, Jeremi's beating them up by his

1483
01:09:00,039 --> 01:09:03,359
on the ground, not the cam back. My friends are thinking,

1484
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,560
if they're listening, then this other kid, I'm not gonna

1485
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,520
say his name because this is just he's a trouble maker,

1486
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,760
so he's just gonna, you know, come to the podcast,

1487
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:13,359
just riot.

1488
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 4: Right.

1489
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 3: So he has his hands in my pockets and I'm like,

1490
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,640
oh my god, I have the cleanest hit on this kid.

1491
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,560
He better take his damn hands out my pockets. I

1492
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,039
hit him right in his chin. Boom. He's like this

1493
01:09:26,279 --> 01:09:28,159
and he falls back and he's looking like he doesn't

1494
01:09:28,199 --> 01:09:29,760
fallen the ground, but he just falls back like this

1495
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:31,319
and not punching him straight in the chest sore. He's

1496
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:36,560
like this, and then that's it. And then like he's

1497
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:40,720
just standing there or whatever, like he kind of brushes

1498
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:42,960
it off like nothing happened. And I'm not going to

1499
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:44,520
treat it like I beat that kid up, like I

1500
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:49,039
was getting hit pretty bad, he got hit pretty bad. Whatever, Right,

1501
01:09:50,079 --> 01:09:52,239
everything ends, we just run away. Then I find a

1502
01:09:52,279 --> 01:09:54,479
glass bottom. I just throw it and it doesn't hit anybody,

1503
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,079
just lands right by their bike and I think it's

1504
01:09:56,079 --> 01:09:57,359
tire popped whatever.

1505
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,399
Speaker 2: But that was like, yeah, I.

1506
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:02,119
Speaker 3: Never told you about this stuff. Like I used to

1507
01:10:02,159 --> 01:10:03,119
get into fights every day.

1508
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like that. There's no need for that.

1509
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:07,399
Why did you keep going back there?

1510
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,279
Speaker 3: There was my friend's house and didn't happen. I didn't happen.

1511
01:10:10,359 --> 01:10:13,159
It didn't happen ever, But you lived in a nice place.

1512
01:10:14,319 --> 01:10:17,199
It wasn't the hood for real. It was just a neighborhood.

1513
01:10:17,239 --> 01:10:19,279
It looked just like fair I'm not saying that.

1514
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,560
Speaker 2: I'm just saying most people, if they're getting beat up,

1515
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,760
you aren't going back to the same place.

1516
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,079
Speaker 3: Because my neighbors didn't like me hanging out with my

1517
01:10:27,079 --> 01:10:29,079
my neighbors didn't even like me. Some of my neighbors

1518
01:10:29,119 --> 01:10:31,079
didn't like me, and they didn't like that I hung

1519
01:10:31,119 --> 01:10:34,039
out with my friends. And my mom understands. Cam break

1520
01:10:34,039 --> 01:10:37,560
doesn't like fun, and I don't care. Came break sucks,

1521
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,600
all right, and they don't like fun.

1522
01:10:40,159 --> 01:10:45,359
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we're gonna close it out. Sorry, No,

1523
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:49,720
it's fine. You're not yapping. You're I think again, I say,

1524
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,439
you're giving insight. You're scaring me a little bit because

1525
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,600
I don't like hearing all this this fighting.

1526
01:10:55,239 --> 01:10:56,359
Speaker 3: And stuff over I'm hearing.

1527
01:10:57,239 --> 01:10:59,119
Speaker 2: I know you're hearing. You're fine, but I think that

1528
01:10:59,159 --> 01:11:01,840
there's been some real scarring done.

1529
01:11:02,039 --> 01:11:04,239
Speaker 3: And I think that we have some literal stars.

1530
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 2: And I think I.

1531
01:11:07,279 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 3: Didn't get that.

1532
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 2: That's not what I mean. I meant scarring, like emotional scars.

1533
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,199
I think this stuff is bad. I think it scares

1534
01:11:13,239 --> 01:11:14,319
you a.

1535
01:11:14,239 --> 01:11:19,560
Speaker 3: Few times, Jesus, not by you or anything.

1536
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 2: But I never dropped you on your head.

1537
01:11:23,279 --> 01:11:27,560
Speaker 3: I never did, be honest, was I ever dropped at

1538
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:28,279
all by incident?

1539
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 2: But you. But I mean, no one's as good as

1540
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,359
they think they are in a fight, you understand, I'm.

1541
01:11:36,319 --> 01:11:41,600
Speaker 3: Fire, okay, Thank God for you, Thank God for you.

1542
01:11:42,039 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I don't say that because I don't like

1543
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:48,199
that what I teach. What I teach is a sport.

1544
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:52,239
It's different. I'm not teaching, and street fighting is way

1545
01:11:52,239 --> 01:11:52,880
different than that.

1546
01:11:54,239 --> 01:11:56,079
Speaker 4: Not. Well, no.

1547
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 2: One's as good as they think they are. No one

1548
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:04,680
for Jamison and the ulcer that I now have with worry.

1549
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:11,600
I'm Bill Moran. Will see you tomorrow, my gosh,