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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thorntens on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now Here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I ever said it directly, but throughout

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday's show, I kept having this thought of, well, this team,

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose is due for a letdown, because that's just

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<v Speaker 2>how it works in sports, and sometimes you can have

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<v Speaker 2>a letdown and still be able to win, depending upon

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<v Speaker 2>how good you are and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just couldn't really get there to be worried

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<v Speaker 2>about the game, which is rare for me usually, you know, I'll,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just I overthink everything in life. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure I'm not the only person that has that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of an issue, but I just couldn't. I couldn't get

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<v Speaker 2>there as far as really thinking that this Louisville team

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<v Speaker 2>was going to come out not ready to play and

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<v Speaker 2>that they wouldn't be able to put together a performance

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<v Speaker 2>that gives them a win. And I was correct. They

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<v Speaker 2>came ready to play and they ended the game pretty

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<v Speaker 2>quickly because they dominated and got a twenty five point

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<v Speaker 2>victory on the road. And not only that, they continue

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<v Speaker 2>to climb in the metrics, with the net rankings and also,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean this doesn't mean anything as far as your

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<v Speaker 2>resume and the NSAA tournament, but you're still seeing many

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<v Speaker 2>of the college basketball talking heads going out of their

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<v Speaker 2>way to just emphasize how well Pat Kelsey has done

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<v Speaker 2>in year one here and how this Louisville team is

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<v Speaker 2>not just playing well and taking advantage of it. Down

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<v Speaker 2>acc they look like a pretty damn good team, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know many of us are enjoying every bit of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Last night, I started the show with this. Actually I

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<v Speaker 2>knew at nine o'clock a nine o'clock tip would make

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<v Speaker 2>it to where when the game's over, even if it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like a super exciting game, if I'm into it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be hard for me to just all right, well, bedtime,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go to sleep. I'm gonna need a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of time to unwind. And Louisville did, in fact give

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<v Speaker 2>us a very non competitive game. I mean the game was.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Louisville was up twenty ish plus for the

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<v Speaker 2>majority of the game. But to see Chucky Hepburn and

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<v Speaker 2>rain Smith chasing those records and of course breaking those records,

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<v Speaker 2>it was it was awesome to see and I'm loving

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<v Speaker 2>every bit of it. It's Coffee and Company five o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>five seven one seventy nine hundred. That's the number to

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five to three zero seven ninety. The record of

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<v Speaker 2>assists in a game was held by Taekwon. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>that was held by Francisco Garcia, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of feel like if you weren't, like if

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<v Speaker 2>you just knew of those guys because you knew they

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<v Speaker 2>were legends and played on that two thousand and five

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<v Speaker 2>Final four team. And I mean, I think you can

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<v Speaker 2>be somebody that's young that like remembers the era, but

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<v Speaker 2>you don't remember a ton about it because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you were really little. Like for me, I remember the

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<v Speaker 2>era of Dwan Weed, Alvin Simms, BJ Flynn, those guys,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's the first team I really had a connection

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<v Speaker 2>to to where I was just I was. I was

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<v Speaker 2>a super fan of that group. That's where I was

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<v Speaker 2>just old enough to kind of really be all in.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't remember like every stretch. I don't remember

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<v Speaker 2>everybody they played or anything like that. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>long time ago. I was eight years old. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you are the same way with Taekwondan and Francisco Garcia,

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<v Speaker 2>then you probably would have thought it was backwards. And

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<v Speaker 2>then it was Dean because he was you know, Dean

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<v Speaker 2>was a hell of a shooter. In fact, both guys

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<v Speaker 2>were phenomenal shooters, but Dean was also a guy who

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<v Speaker 2>at times played point guard for you and is more

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<v Speaker 2>of a guard than Cisco. But it was Cisco who

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<v Speaker 2>had the record for assists, Dean who had the record

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<v Speaker 2>for three pointers made in a game. And now you know,

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<v Speaker 2>those guys no longer hold those records because Chuck Chucky Hepburn.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you keep here and I can't tell you

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<v Speaker 2>that I wanted to be able to say, why are

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<v Speaker 2>not people talking more about Chucky Hepburn being one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best point guards in the country with the way

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<v Speaker 2>he's playing, And in fact, people are saying it. You

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<v Speaker 2>heard it last night on the broadcast. Pat Kelsey of

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<v Speaker 2>course is emphasizing it. And I think if you were

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<v Speaker 2>to ask people who you know, ask those objective folks

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<v Speaker 2>that cover college hoops, they would include Chucky when talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the best point guards. And it's pretty evident if

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<v Speaker 2>you watch him and last night, I mean, he was sensational.

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<v Speaker 2>He was let's see, thirteen points, which I think he

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<v Speaker 2>had most of those pretty early, and he had sixteen assists,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm sorry, I guess I guess it was fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>was the record. Sixteen is now the new record. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I had it wrong earlier by saying he got

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen last night, but sixteen, that's the new single game record.

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<v Speaker 2>And rain Smith made ten three pointers, breaking Taekwondane's record

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<v Speaker 2>of nine that he made during his time as a

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville Cardinal. So everything about last night was phenomenal. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>you won, big records are being broken, You're score in

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<v Speaker 2>ninety eight points, and I mean everybody got involved. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Terrence Edwards was one point away from Louisville having six

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<v Speaker 2>players in double figures. And I want to really applaud

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<v Speaker 2>Terrence Edwards Junior because it's one of those things where

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<v Speaker 2>it feels weird giving somebody credit for things that they're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to do. But also I know that like you

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't see this probably with many other players he's had,

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<v Speaker 2>he's had games like that where for some reason, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's just because he's not quite as good of

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<v Speaker 2>a shooter as some other guys, but he's had some

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<v Speaker 2>games where his SHOT's just not falling. He's also had

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<v Speaker 2>games where a shot was falling, and he's been a

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<v Speaker 2>big contributor when it comes to scoring. But last night

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<v Speaker 2>two at thirteen because Rain couldn't miss, and Hadley was

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<v Speaker 2>five of eight, James Scott seven of twelve, can I

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<v Speaker 2>Russ off the bench, made four of his five field

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<v Speaker 2>goals because everybody else was having no problem kind of

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, joining in on the on the scoring frenzy.

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<v Speaker 2>It stood out that Terrence Edwards Junior was not making shots.

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<v Speaker 2>He was two of thirteen, which again you know that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's not a great line when it comes to being

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<v Speaker 2>efficient as far as scoring, but he still makes impact

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<v Speaker 2>impacts elsewhere. He made all four of his free throws,

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<v Speaker 2>had four rebounds to go along with five assists and

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<v Speaker 2>just one turnover, So you know, he can have a

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<v Speaker 2>night like that and it really isn't an issue for

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<v Speaker 2>you because you've got others that are Again, this is

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<v Speaker 2>where Louisville can get can get really dangerous here. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean, you know, maybe win a national championship.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean just that if they if this identity sustains

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<v Speaker 2>and they carry it over to the NCAA tournament, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they are going to be somebody that's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a tough out for anybody. I believe. Now, maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 2>wrong and this is all more so a product of

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<v Speaker 2>the ACC being down, but I don't believe that to

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<v Speaker 2>be the case, and I'm sure deep down a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people don't believe that to be the case either.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you've got guys that are consistently given you

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of production, that's you're dangerous and yeah, anybody

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<v Speaker 2>can have an off night, but you've got six guys

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that have kind of rounded into giving

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<v Speaker 2>you a consistent amount of production that makes them pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good players. I don't know who's elite on this team,

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<v Speaker 2>If anybody, it's gonna be chucky. And also rain just

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<v Speaker 2>because when he's shooting like he is as of late.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's a weapon that many teams don't have.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of teams don't have. So it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>asking Javon Hadley to go five of eight from the

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<v Speaker 2>floor and get seven rebounds and sixteen points. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a pretty tough stat line to maintain. But he's

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<v Speaker 2>been doing that. Like, you know, he's had some games

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<v Speaker 2>where he doesn't score as much, but he's also had

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<v Speaker 2>games where he scored thirty two. So what has me

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<v Speaker 2>so bullish about this Louisville run it's kind of been

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<v Speaker 2>consistent for the last few weeks, is that what has

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<v Speaker 2>what has made them much better and you know, much

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<v Speaker 2>more successful winning nine straight games, has been the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that they're balanced right and the things that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you worry about maybe not being there one game that

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<v Speaker 2>could hurt you. I mean, they are things you can control. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think this team's gonna show up and not

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<v Speaker 2>play really good defense. They're gonna play some better teams

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<v Speaker 2>down the line once they get to the tournament, I

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<v Speaker 2>would imagine, and maybe you know they're not as effective defensively.

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<v Speaker 2>But what's really made them this successful in January obviously

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<v Speaker 2>they're not playing the teams they were playing in November

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<v Speaker 2>and December that beat them. But other than that, it's

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<v Speaker 2>things that you can control. It's not luck. Like sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>it's just gonna have bad luck in an off night,

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<v Speaker 2>guys missing shots, but you know, would not be a

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<v Speaker 2>shocker if they're playing Wake Forest and let's say maybe

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<v Speaker 2>maybe rain Smith is two of nine from three and

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<v Speaker 2>Chucky Hepburn is you know, three of ten from the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>Well if Terrence Edwards steps up and he's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>back to scoring more points than than he had last night,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's you know, let's say he's six of eight

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<v Speaker 2>from the floor, I mean like that those are things

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<v Speaker 2>that are very much are realistic. I mean, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>even about being realistic, it's about like, like that's likely now,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think the result, like in any performance, when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to just the balance that that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that is much different than what we've had in the

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<v Speaker 2>last six seven games, like that would be the outlier here.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and yesterday, I guess the reason why I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't fully get there to say that, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>worried and I'm expecting a letdown. They've just been playing

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<v Speaker 2>so well, at some point, maybe they're going to hit

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<v Speaker 2>a wall and come back down to reality. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>kept thinking that that was gonna be where my mindset was.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, because because what we're watching, it's not like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, they can't miss now rain Smith last

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<v Speaker 2>night that was crazy because he was I mean when

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<v Speaker 2>he hit or ees like six through nine, it was okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to be making this up. This is unreal,

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<v Speaker 2>like it was one of the I mean, ten three

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<v Speaker 2>pointers at a game is un So that's an exception.

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<v Speaker 2>But the other things that you're seeing, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's not only consistent, it's things that are not

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<v Speaker 2>at all dependent upon good breaks going your way or luck.

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<v Speaker 2>And that makes me believe that this level of play

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<v Speaker 2>that has made them a much better team as they've

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<v Speaker 2>gotten more and more comfortable, everybody seems to have an

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<v Speaker 2>identified role. They clearly have an identity. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is very much sustainable. And again I keep

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<v Speaker 2>saying this over and over, but like I'm loving it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know I am. I'm not alone. I do

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk really quickly about Kentucky fans because I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's been weird for them because they and I

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<v Speaker 2>know you can. You can get deep into the weeds,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can get deep into the toxic world that

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<v Speaker 2>is social media, specifically Twitter and x and you know

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<v Speaker 2>the anonymous accounts that just you know, spew hate and

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<v Speaker 2>you know that's that's I mean, they're out there and

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<v Speaker 2>you know it exists. But I think level headed Kentucky fans,

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<v Speaker 2>even those that you know, really embrace the rivalry and

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<v Speaker 2>can be nasty at times. I think this is where

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<v Speaker 2>they are. They know that to criticize Louisville for being

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<v Speaker 2>happy and really excited about Pat Kelcey and enjoying this success,

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<v Speaker 2>I think as much as they want to make fun

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<v Speaker 2>of us because like, wow, imagine remember the last time

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<v Speaker 2>I beat a non ranked team on the road, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>but they also like they also know, like they realized

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<v Speaker 2>that Louisville fans understandably are loving this because of what

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<v Speaker 2>the program's gone through recently. So like, I'm sure you'll

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<v Speaker 2>find people making fun of Loisll fans for being excited,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think some are hesitoned to do that because

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<v Speaker 2>like they get it. Also, I think they're not scared

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<v Speaker 2>of Louisville, but they also realize, hey, I'm watching basketball

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a ball knower. I think this team's actually playing

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<v Speaker 2>pretty well. Like I think they're kind of good. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure they realized that. I'm sure they realized that they're better.

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<v Speaker 2>They did beat louisvilleadad I mean, but and who knows,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe if they played again it would be a different result.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it doesn't matter. But I think you're

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<v Speaker 2>not seeing them make fun of Louisville fans for being

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<v Speaker 2>happy quite as much, because again, I think they understand.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think they realize that this team is playing

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good basketball, and they think Pat Kelsey as much

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<v Speaker 2>as they don't want it, he's likable and they probably

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<v Speaker 2>think he's a pretty good coach. And again, I realize

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<v Speaker 2>there are many of you listening right now that you're

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky fins that probably are like, no, this guy's a bum.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys stink you're only winning because the ACC sucks

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<v Speaker 2>and you all are embarrassing yourself. When did Louisville start

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<v Speaker 2>celebrating this kind of stuff? So I'm sure you could

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<v Speaker 2>find that out there. But what I've noticed is that

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<v Speaker 2>those that are sort of in the lane I'm describing

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<v Speaker 2>here right like, they get it when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>the excitement. They actually think Louisville's pretty good. They think

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey is doing a really good job. So what

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<v Speaker 2>do they have to yell about. I'll tell you this

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<v Speaker 2>is like, this is I think them telling on themselves

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<v Speaker 2>that they really don't like Louisville being good and winning

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, it's the rival. I'm the same way

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<v Speaker 2>with them. All they do is just yell about how

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<v Speaker 2>the ACC stinks. They're throwing all these numbers out there

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<v Speaker 2>that highlight how down the ACC is and how loaded

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<v Speaker 2>their league is. That is their passive way to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>deal with it. Now. Maybe again, I'm sure some aren't

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<v Speaker 2>as passive in summery in your face and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>telling you you stink, you suck Loserville, l's down, all

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. But I've noticed it, like even

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky fans that I'm friends with, that i'm close with,

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<v Speaker 2>that we don't really do the rivalry thing back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth because I'm never going to change their mind, They're

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<v Speaker 2>never going to change mine. I'm gonna be a Louisville fan,

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna be Kentucky fans. And that's the way it

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<v Speaker 2>should be, you know, instead of like, oh, Wow, Louis's

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<v Speaker 2>playing really good. They're just like, man, you guys notice

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<v Speaker 2>like how bad the acc is? Yeah, clearly, And that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I that is exactly why I find myself overdoing it.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as that disclaimer that, yes, Louisville's success here lately,

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<v Speaker 2>part of the part of the reason they've been to

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<v Speaker 2>win nine in a row is because they're now playing

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<v Speaker 2>teams that aren't elite, aren't great, and earlier this year

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<v Speaker 2>they were playing really, really good teams. And that's why

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<v Speaker 2>I think when it comes to the resume, like Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>didn't beat any of the big, big teams on the schedule,

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<v Speaker 2>and in fact, they got blown out by a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of them, but they still played a challenging schedule. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's gonna help them, Right. There's other teams out there

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<v Speaker 2>that have a record similar to Louisville and maybe even

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<v Speaker 2>like a better win or two, but they also didn't

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<v Speaker 2>play such a challenging schedule. And in the end, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's always the way to go. Now again, it can

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<v Speaker 2>hurt you because you end up with a record, like

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<v Speaker 2>because if you play all these good teams and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't beat any of them, but you played competitively at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, like you're still losing, but

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<v Speaker 2>you get rewarded from the committee. The proof is there.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have a strong schedule, you'll be rewarded for it.

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<v Speaker 2>And this isn't even about the resume, but also playing

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<v Speaker 2>a strong schedule early on, it's gonna benefit you down

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<v Speaker 2>the line because you've been battle tested. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's why Louisville has been able to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>get past these other ACC teams that are fighting for

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<v Speaker 2>the tournament, because yeah, I mean they needed they needed

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<v Speaker 2>some big plays late to beat Pitt at Pitt. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess they did kind of. They did pull away from

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina and Clemson, who are both teams that are, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fighting for the tournament. Clemson's in right now, Carolina probably

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<v Speaker 2>would be in. But you know, I think it's safe

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<v Speaker 2>to say teams like Tennessee, Ole, miss Duke, Kentucky. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>those teams are are better than all those teams I

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<v Speaker 2>just mentioned the ACC, outside of course Duke, who is

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<v Speaker 2>in the ACC. So I hope pat Kelsey didn't just

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<v Speaker 2>inherit this schedule and it is what it is. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope that he plans to schedule really tough in the

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<v Speaker 2>non conference every year, because well that's the way Denny

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<v Speaker 2>used to do it, and because of the reasons I

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<v Speaker 2>just mentioned, I just think that that that's clearly the better,

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<v Speaker 2>the better route to go than than playing a big

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<v Speaker 2>week schedule and maybe adding a bunch of wins. But

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<v Speaker 2>your resume is not going to be great, right, Your

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<v Speaker 2>net's not going to be where you want it to be.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're not challenging yourself consistently in November and December,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you're missing out, all right. It's coffee and company.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel about Thorton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>you hanging out with us as we've been talking a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of Louisville basketball, as you could expect, and believe

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<v Speaker 2>it or not, this may shock some of you that

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<v Speaker 2>are just now joining us. I said something incorrect earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you can understand and pick up the sarcasm,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm sure I've said many things that were incorrect,

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<v Speaker 2>even you know, within this segment. But when I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the Quad one and Quad two, and just

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<v Speaker 2>currently Louisville's resume has four and it could every day,

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<v Speaker 2>every day, it could change. I did have it incorrect.

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<v Speaker 2>I was mentioning Oklahoma as the team that Louisville needed

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<v Speaker 2>to stay in the top fifty for it to be

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<v Speaker 2>a Quad one win, and in fact, they needed to

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<v Speaker 2>stay in the top one fifty. But it's because of

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<v Speaker 2>a Quad one loss. They lost Oklahoma. I had it

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<v Speaker 2>mixed up for some reason. I had. I mean, I knew,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just said it incorrectly. I knew that

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<v Speaker 2>West Virginia is who they actually beat. So the good

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<v Speaker 2>news is West Virginia, and in fact, I think they

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like they might have taken a loss last

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<v Speaker 2>night if I'm not mistaken, but or maybe they I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. The reason I'm thinking West Virginia might have

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<v Speaker 2>loss last night is because Austin was texting me about

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<v Speaker 2>his parlay and how they screwed him. So anyways, right

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<v Speaker 2>now in the net, Oklahoma is borderline. I mean, they're

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<v Speaker 2>forty ninth in the net, and if they drop out

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<v Speaker 2>of the top fifty, that becomes a Quad two loss.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the current strengths of a Louisville's resume is

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that they only have losses in the Quad

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<v Speaker 2>one tier. If Oklahoma slips out of the top fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Then that's a quad two loss, which isn't terrible, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you want all your losses to be quad one.

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<v Speaker 2>So West Virginia is a win for Louisville, and they

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<v Speaker 2>would need to fall out of the top fifty for

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<v Speaker 2>that to no longer be a quad one victory. That

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<v Speaker 2>looks unlikely because they're thirteen and five and they're sitting

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<v Speaker 2>at thirty six in the net. And now that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking here, they dropped six spots last night, so I

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<v Speaker 2>would assume they would have had to have lost lost

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<v Speaker 2>to whoever they whoever they played. Yeah, last night West Virginia,

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<v Speaker 2>they took an l to Arizona State, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>bad loss for them at home. Yeah, that's that explains

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<v Speaker 2>why they dropped as many spots as they did, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's I mean Arizona State. I guess, Well, Arizona State's

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<v Speaker 2>not terrible, but they're eleven and seven and had lost.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like they'd lost six of eight before last night.

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<v Speaker 2>So look, they're still in the top fifty. There's still

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<v Speaker 2>a tournament team, which is good. But yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 2>uh And by the way, what a weird resume for

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<v Speaker 2>West Virginia. West Virginia, as mentioned now has a lost

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<v Speaker 2>to Arizona State, which is not a good loss, and

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<v Speaker 2>they also have well, I guess this is really their

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<v Speaker 2>only loss. They lost to Pittsburgh early this year, and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that would that would be a bad loss

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<v Speaker 2>for him, and I guess it's to be determined what

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<v Speaker 2>that loss looks like down the line, because pitt had

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<v Speaker 2>a good start to the season and Louisville beat him

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<v Speaker 2>and might have broke them because Pittsburgh has now lost

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<v Speaker 2>four straight and they'll play They'll play Syracuse on the

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<v Speaker 2>road on set. I would imagine they'll get back to

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<v Speaker 2>the winning ways in that one because Syracuse, as we know,

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<v Speaker 2>is really down. So West Virginia. They're thirteen and five,

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<v Speaker 2>only one loss. That's kind of a head scratcher. They

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<v Speaker 2>did get blown out by Arizona, which if you remember

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, that looked like maybe a bad loss

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<v Speaker 2>because Arizona was struggling, But now they're playing well. But

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<v Speaker 2>West Virginia has wins against Gonzaga. They did beat Arizona once,

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<v Speaker 2>which is crazy. They played Arizona in the non conference

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<v Speaker 2>on a neutral court, something that was previously scheduled, but

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<v Speaker 2>because Arizona joined the Big Twelve this year. They also

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<v Speaker 2>played them in In fact, are they going to play

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<v Speaker 2>them three times? No, looks like they're going to play them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so they'll play. Yeah, they split with arizonas they beat

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<v Speaker 2>them once and lost them once. But then they also

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<v Speaker 2>have a win against Houston. I'm sorry, not Houston, but

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<v Speaker 2>Iowa State, who is number four currently in the Ken Palm.

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<v Speaker 2>So West Virginia could probably lose a few more games

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<v Speaker 2>to teams that are in that tier of Arizona State

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe still be in just because they've got some

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<v Speaker 2>really really strong wins as of right now. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>a good win for Louisville, and you know that you

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<v Speaker 2>need as many of those as you can get. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's see where do we want to go here? I

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<v Speaker 2>guess we should say this because I want to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure I don't make the same mistake that I made

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<v Speaker 2>in the four o'clock hour by going way too long

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<v Speaker 2>in the first segment and then just completely messing up

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<v Speaker 2>the clock. You guys know my clock management at times

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<v Speaker 2>is not great. So let's get to a break. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>come back on the other side. John Caliperry got some

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<v Speaker 2>really bad news yesterday Boogie Fland is out for the year,

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<v Speaker 2>which I thought Matt's comment earlier today about that on

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<v Speaker 2>Boogie Flanned injury and about how that's going to be,

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<v Speaker 2>really you know, I mean, Arkansas is struggling in a

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<v Speaker 2>mean they're already bad and now they lose Boogie Flan,

415
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<v Speaker 2>probably their best player this year. And instead of just

416
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<v Speaker 2>acknowledging that it's gonna be tough for them, the instant

417
00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:05.680
<v Speaker 2>comment from Matt, which again I get it, I'd be

418
00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:08.000
<v Speaker 2>doing the same thing, was we definitely can't lose to

419
00:21:08.039 --> 00:21:11.000
<v Speaker 2>them now, which you can, Like you could lose to

420
00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:13.680
<v Speaker 2>cal and it would not impact you in any way

421
00:21:13.720 --> 00:21:16.279
<v Speaker 2>as far as your season. It won't change anything about

422
00:21:16.279 --> 00:21:19.799
<v Speaker 2>your ceiling, It won't change anything about pope. But man,

423
00:21:20.279 --> 00:21:23.839
<v Speaker 2>that's when sports really is fun, when it's so personal

424
00:21:24.079 --> 00:21:26.279
<v Speaker 2>and it actually is what makes us crazy about this stuff.

425
00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:29.960
<v Speaker 2>But like, you have nothing to truly like again, it

426
00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:32.880
<v Speaker 2>probably would drop you down in the seed line maybe,

427
00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:35.079
<v Speaker 2>so I guess there is some potential real harm in losing,

428
00:21:35.799 --> 00:21:38.279
<v Speaker 2>and you're clearly gonna lose more games in the SEC

429
00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:42.400
<v Speaker 2>because your leagu's loaded. But overall, like it won't keep

430
00:21:42.480 --> 00:21:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky from being able to have a really good season,

431
00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:48.440
<v Speaker 2>So it's not like it kills you, but it does

432
00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:51.079
<v Speaker 2>kill you just because you don't want to lose to

433
00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:55.640
<v Speaker 2>that guy. Given the situation, given the circumstances, col coming

434
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<v Speaker 2>in to Rup on the first and winning, I think

435
00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:02.119
<v Speaker 2>it's damn impossible. But like, if they did, that would

436
00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:05.200
<v Speaker 2>be and I understand it. It would be a really

437
00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:07.279
<v Speaker 2>tough one for Kentucky fans to deal with. But I

438
00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:08.839
<v Speaker 2>don't know who they'd be mad at. I'm sure they'd

439
00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:11.240
<v Speaker 2>be mad at Pope in the moment, but like it

440
00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:13.359
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't mean that he's not going to be successful there.

441
00:22:13.799 --> 00:22:16.799
<v Speaker 2>But I can just tell I can feel it that game.

442
00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:20.359
<v Speaker 2>That's one that there the fans are a little tight about.

443
00:22:20.440 --> 00:22:22.599
<v Speaker 2>I would imagine the players probably won't be, because again,

444
00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:25.599
<v Speaker 2>none of these guys even know Caliperry. All right, quick break,

445
00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:27.160
<v Speaker 2>we'll come back on the other side. Keep it rolling along,

446
00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:28.799
<v Speaker 2>Talk a little about the talk a little bit about

447
00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:30.440
<v Speaker 2>the NFL playoffs before we get out of here. I

448
00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:33.279
<v Speaker 2>know we're gonna well, we have more time to do that.

449
00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:35.240
<v Speaker 2>The rest of the week, but uh, big weekend coming

450
00:22:35.279 --> 00:22:36.960
<v Speaker 2>up where we figure out who's gonna be playing in

451
00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:39.200
<v Speaker 2>the Super Bowl. So stick around again, it's coffee and company.

452
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<v Speaker 2>Feel about Thorton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

453
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<v Speaker 2>You know, if I didn't have a friend that was

454
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<v Speaker 2>currently in Destin, Florida that was sending pictures of snow

455
00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:05.480
<v Speaker 2>on the beach, I wouldn't believe it. I would see

456
00:23:05.480 --> 00:23:08.599
<v Speaker 2>all the video that's all over social media of in

457
00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:12.079
<v Speaker 2>fact they're being snow on the beach in Florida, and

458
00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:15.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, hey, New Orleans Bourbon Street, I mean, it's frozen,

459
00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:19.599
<v Speaker 2>there's snow everywhere. There's people ice skating on Bourbon Street.

460
00:23:20.039 --> 00:23:23.359
<v Speaker 2>Again with AI and how insane it is that they

461
00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:25.400
<v Speaker 2>can take something that, you know, they can make something

462
00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:27.880
<v Speaker 2>look real when it's not. I don't know if I would,

463
00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I think I would have just assumed it's all stuff

464
00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:32.519
<v Speaker 2>on the internet that you have to now just assume

465
00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:36.000
<v Speaker 2>it's probably not real. But it is. I mean, it's

466
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<v Speaker 2>just it's the visual of seeing snow on the beach,

467
00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:42.279
<v Speaker 2>especially a beach that I go to every year that

468
00:23:42.599 --> 00:23:46.319
<v Speaker 2>is beautiful. And you know, I just I said yesterday,

469
00:23:46.359 --> 00:23:48.359
<v Speaker 2>I can't even visualize it. Well now I have because

470
00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:51.240
<v Speaker 2>I've seen it, and it's just it's crazy and we're

471
00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:53.279
<v Speaker 2>not getting any snow right now. But man, it is

472
00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:58.240
<v Speaker 2>cold as can be outside, just I mean brutal, brutal,

473
00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:02.519
<v Speaker 2>and I think we're gonna get some warmer weather, but like, hey,

474
00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:05.160
<v Speaker 2>you could give me the twenties and that would be

475
00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:08.119
<v Speaker 2>a big upgrade. As far as how cold it's been

476
00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:11.039
<v Speaker 2>really in the last few days. I said this yesterday.

477
00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:14.799
<v Speaker 2>I think with the first snow wave that we got

478
00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:18.480
<v Speaker 2>taking place on the sixth or I guess it was

479
00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:21.799
<v Speaker 2>the fifth of January. Here we are on the twenty second,

480
00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:25.759
<v Speaker 2>and I mean, like my driveway, the area that is

481
00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:29.000
<v Speaker 2>not shaded, I mean it's been frozen really ever since then,

482
00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:31.480
<v Speaker 2>and it's had some type of snow, ice, sleet something

483
00:24:31.480 --> 00:24:35.359
<v Speaker 2>on it for a long time. And this is in

484
00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:38.200
<v Speaker 2>a year where we've had our biggest win. I mean,

485
00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:40.119
<v Speaker 2>I feel like the last few years it has been

486
00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:43.440
<v Speaker 2>very mild when it comes to winter weather. Not only

487
00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:46.559
<v Speaker 2>has it not been as cold as long as it

488
00:24:46.599 --> 00:24:49.519
<v Speaker 2>has been here in the last month, but we didn't

489
00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:52.119
<v Speaker 2>get any kind of snow compared to what we got

490
00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:54.799
<v Speaker 2>so far here in January, so as somebody who does

491
00:24:54.880 --> 00:24:56.559
<v Speaker 2>usually like the winter. I still like a lot of

492
00:24:56.559 --> 00:24:58.319
<v Speaker 2>things that come with winter, you know, like the holidays

493
00:24:58.319 --> 00:25:01.079
<v Speaker 2>and of course basketball season. But I am like a

494
00:25:01.079 --> 00:25:03.359
<v Speaker 2>lot of you now in wanting the warm weather to

495
00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:05.480
<v Speaker 2>get here, to get her pretty soon. All right, it's

496
00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:07.480
<v Speaker 2>coffee and company. We are feel about Thornton's about thirty

497
00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:09.400
<v Speaker 2>minutes left here before we get out of here and

498
00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:11.960
<v Speaker 2>wrap it up. This is a good text that came

499
00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:14.200
<v Speaker 2>in earlier, and this is the second or third time

500
00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:17.960
<v Speaker 2>in the last couple of weeks that somebody's asked this question,

501
00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:22.640
<v Speaker 2>and that is essentially who's eligible after this year? Meaning

502
00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:25.160
<v Speaker 2>in the last text puts it best. He says, look,

503
00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:26.880
<v Speaker 2>I should know this. I can look and see that

504
00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:29.599
<v Speaker 2>somebody's a red shirt senior and assume that they're not

505
00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:33.000
<v Speaker 2>going to have any eligibility left, but honestly don't know now.

506
00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:37.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, here's so right now, let's look at the roster.

507
00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:40.839
<v Speaker 2>So I could be wrong here because it is really

508
00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:44.119
<v Speaker 2>hard to keep up with because you think, you know, okay,

509
00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:46.359
<v Speaker 2>what the rule is, what the standard as far as eligibility,

510
00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:48.559
<v Speaker 2>and then somebody challenges it and they win, and then

511
00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:50.720
<v Speaker 2>the NCAA makes a rule change. So that's actually what

512
00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:55.000
<v Speaker 2>has happened recently with the Diego Pavia, the quarterback at Vandy,

513
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:58.440
<v Speaker 2>who challenged the NCUBLEA, claiming that cannot you cannot count

514
00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:01.480
<v Speaker 2>two years of junior college football against me when it

515
00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:04.839
<v Speaker 2>comes to eligibility because the NJC double A is not

516
00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:07.440
<v Speaker 2>the same thing as the nc double A. I should

517
00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:09.799
<v Speaker 2>still be allowed to have four years of eligibility like

518
00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:13.480
<v Speaker 2>everybody else. And it's a wild strategy that that you know,

519
00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:17.400
<v Speaker 2>sounded crazy, but he won. He successfully beat the NC

520
00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:21.759
<v Speaker 2>DOUBLEA in court. So the NCAA decided, well, okay, I mean,

521
00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:24.640
<v Speaker 2>because he won, until we figure this out and and

522
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:27.319
<v Speaker 2>get a and get more clarity on what we're going

523
00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:30.319
<v Speaker 2>to do long term, because he's been able to win.

524
00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:33.079
<v Speaker 2>Not everybody. This basically what they did the day that

525
00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:36.640
<v Speaker 2>he won his lawsuit, they put out a statement saying

526
00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:39.400
<v Speaker 2>that you also will be able to get one year

527
00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:42.759
<v Speaker 2>of you'll be eligible in twenty twenty five, twenty six

528
00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:46.240
<v Speaker 2>if you are currently playing college sports in one of

529
00:26:46.279 --> 00:26:50.359
<v Speaker 2>your years of eligibility in the four year window was JUCO.

530
00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:53.279
<v Speaker 2>So basically what they did was told everybody, look, don't

531
00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:57.039
<v Speaker 2>hire attorneys and take us to court. We we know

532
00:26:57.119 --> 00:26:59.720
<v Speaker 2>we've lost. We lose these lawsuits. So just if you've

533
00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:02.200
<v Speaker 2>got to if you're a JUCO guy that was exhausting

534
00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:06.279
<v Speaker 2>eligibility this calendar school year, you will have another year

535
00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:09.039
<v Speaker 2>of eligibility. So what that means is Case and Pryor

536
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:13.759
<v Speaker 2>he could be eligible for two more years. I mean,

537
00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:17.119
<v Speaker 2>hard to imagine that he would play two more years

538
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:20.400
<v Speaker 2>of college basketball, but I believe he could. And also

539
00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:24.359
<v Speaker 2>I think the same thing can be said about Javon Hadley.

540
00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:28.960
<v Speaker 2>So Case and Pryor was a fifth year guy. I believe.

541
00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Let me pull it up here, Case and Pryor he

542
00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:35.279
<v Speaker 2>ended up coming out of yeah, coming out of high school,

543
00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:39.960
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, Case and Pryor was a He's been playing

544
00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:45.079
<v Speaker 2>college basketball JUCO or D one since twenty twenty one.

545
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.799
<v Speaker 2>So he played two years at Boise State, not a

546
00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:51.880
<v Speaker 2>whole lot. Then he played a year of JUCO at

547
00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Northwestern Florida State. He played one season there, so then

548
00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:03.200
<v Speaker 2>he transferred to where was it? He transferred to South Florida.

549
00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:05.759
<v Speaker 2>That's where he played. So last year at South Florida

550
00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:09.880
<v Speaker 2>he was on his last year. But because like everybody else,

551
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:16.000
<v Speaker 2>if you played college basketball, if your four year eligibility window.

552
00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:19.640
<v Speaker 2>One of those years was the twenty twenty one season

553
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:22.759
<v Speaker 2>where we played college basketball kind of meeting where we

554
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:25.680
<v Speaker 2>had a season, but there were very few fans allowed

555
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:27.759
<v Speaker 2>to go. A bunch of games canceled the year where

556
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:30.799
<v Speaker 2>we tried to play sports during a pandemic. If you

557
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.519
<v Speaker 2>were in school at that time, that year does not count.

558
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:36.319
<v Speaker 2>You get an extra year. So Cason was able to

559
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:39.519
<v Speaker 2>come back to Louisville this year because of that. He

560
00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:41.799
<v Speaker 2>was getting his fifth year because one of his years

561
00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:45.920
<v Speaker 2>of college basketball was in fact during that window. So

562
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:48.880
<v Speaker 2>he got hurt this year early enough to where he

563
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:52.720
<v Speaker 2>will not he will play. I think they base it

564
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:55.079
<v Speaker 2>off of percentage he's going to play in such a

565
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:57.200
<v Speaker 2>small percentage of Louisville's games that he will be able

566
00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:01.119
<v Speaker 2>to qualify for a medical red shirt. So that is

567
00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:03.839
<v Speaker 2>how he could come back another year. But also the

568
00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:08.279
<v Speaker 2>JUCO thing, so technically, because one of his seasons of

569
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:11.119
<v Speaker 2>eligibility was utilized in the JUCO ranks and not the

570
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:15.400
<v Speaker 2>nc DOULA because of the recent change they've made until

571
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:17.559
<v Speaker 2>they get it figured out, he's now being granted an

572
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:20.640
<v Speaker 2>extra year. So that's how theoretically he could play two

573
00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:23.480
<v Speaker 2>more years of college basketball if he wanted to same

574
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:27.240
<v Speaker 2>thing with Javon Hadley. Javon Hadley started his career at

575
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Where did he start at? I think at Northeastern maybe

576
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:35.200
<v Speaker 2>that's where Javon Hadley first played college basketball at Northeastern,

577
00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:38.240
<v Speaker 2>which is the Division one school, very small school. And

578
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:40.480
<v Speaker 2>after that he was there for a season and then

579
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:45.480
<v Speaker 2>he ended up transferring to He transferred to a junior college,

580
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Indian Hills, and I don't know if he played there

581
00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:51.880
<v Speaker 2>one year two years. I think it was one season.

582
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:55.559
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, he played in thirteen games as a true freshman.

583
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:57.759
<v Speaker 2>Then he went JUCO for a year. Then he played

584
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:00.680
<v Speaker 2>at Colorado for two years and was a good player Colorado.

585
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:05.559
<v Speaker 2>So he had another year, a fifth year because again

586
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:09.119
<v Speaker 2>he started his college career during the COVID year, so

587
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:12.759
<v Speaker 2>he got a fifth year. And now the JUCO thing,

588
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:16.279
<v Speaker 2>so Hadley could have another year because the year he

589
00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:19.559
<v Speaker 2>played at Indian Hills was not counted against him towards

590
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:22.640
<v Speaker 2>his eligibility. So technically you could get case In Pryor

591
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:27.759
<v Speaker 2>and and and Javon Hadley back if they want to

592
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:30.720
<v Speaker 2>come back, because they will have eligibility. Now it's a

593
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:33.960
<v Speaker 2>new world where it's going to come down to money,

594
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:37.039
<v Speaker 2>and you know, some of these guys may decide, Look,

595
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:38.680
<v Speaker 2>I could maybe make some money, but I'm ready to

596
00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:40.839
<v Speaker 2>just start the next chapter of my life and move

597
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:42.839
<v Speaker 2>on from college basketball. So I have no clue what

598
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:44.240
<v Speaker 2>the roster is going to look like next year. But

599
00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:47.799
<v Speaker 2>those guys could be eligible, now what I what. I

600
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:51.839
<v Speaker 2>believe one of you that asked this question in regards

601
00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:56.319
<v Speaker 2>to eligibility, who could be back? I think the confusion

602
00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:59.240
<v Speaker 2>for one of you was that that you didn't know if, if,

603
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:02.079
<v Speaker 2>if the COVID thing had come and gone. I'm pretty

604
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:05.359
<v Speaker 2>sure we are currently in the season to where there's

605
00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:10.319
<v Speaker 2>nobody playing college basketball that is not on that extra year,

606
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Meaning from here on out, you're no longer going to

607
00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:16.680
<v Speaker 2>get a fifth year because it's been so long since

608
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:19.759
<v Speaker 2>that season happened to where you wouldn't qualify. But yeah,

609
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:22.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean so chucky Hepburn, He's been a four year guy.

610
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:26.720
<v Speaker 2>He started for three years at Wisconsin and this is

611
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:29.079
<v Speaker 2>his fourth year. He'll not be entitled to a fifth

612
00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:33.519
<v Speaker 2>year because he didn't start his college career early enough

613
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:38.079
<v Speaker 2>and also he didn't play JUCO. But I am to

614
00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:40.799
<v Speaker 2>the point now with the NC Double A. Anybody could

615
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:43.200
<v Speaker 2>be given an extra year, and I'm not gonna be

616
00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:46.519
<v Speaker 2>surprised for any reason, just because that has absolutely been

617
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:48.480
<v Speaker 2>the trend as of late. You sue the NC Double

618
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>A and you challenge them, they're going to lose. And

619
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:55.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't see any I can't think of

620
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:57.960
<v Speaker 2>any scenario where Chucky would be able to play another

621
00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:01.160
<v Speaker 2>year of college basketball. But well, yeah, before it, I mean,

622
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:05.519
<v Speaker 2>you kidding me. This guy is, I mean, he's he's

623
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:09.079
<v Speaker 2>only going to be here one year. And I think

624
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<v Speaker 2>when you when you consider guys and how they're remembered,

625
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:17.200
<v Speaker 2>you do it based off of two things, well three things.

626
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:21.000
<v Speaker 2>One how good they were, also how successful their team was,

627
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:23.880
<v Speaker 2>meaning did they go on a deep run. Your probability

628
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:29.920
<v Speaker 2>of being remembered in a major way at Louisville and

629
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:32.640
<v Speaker 2>other programs that love college basketball where it's a big

630
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:34.519
<v Speaker 2>deal and you know you're in that blue bud blue

631
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:37.400
<v Speaker 2>blood territory is if you make deep runs in the tournament,

632
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:39.519
<v Speaker 2>Like there have been some really good players, but their

633
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:42.960
<v Speaker 2>teams weren't as successful, didn't have the big run to

634
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:46.640
<v Speaker 2>where I really don't know if people remember them as

635
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:50.240
<v Speaker 2>fondly as they should have. So, you know, Chucky, if

636
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:51.599
<v Speaker 2>he goes on a deep run and Louisville makes some

637
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:53.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of miraculous run to the final four, then he'll

638
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:55.799
<v Speaker 2>be remembered forever. And technically, I think right now, if

639
00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:57.759
<v Speaker 2>you're a Louisville fan, you always remember him because he's

640
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.519
<v Speaker 2>this good, But you know, him only being here one year,

641
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:03.240
<v Speaker 2>it just changes it a little bit. When I think

642
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:08.720
<v Speaker 2>of players that that get discussed, you know, for generations

643
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:12.119
<v Speaker 2>and will you know and will down the line, it's

644
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:14.440
<v Speaker 2>it's because they played here a long time, and that's

645
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:17.039
<v Speaker 2>just what's gonna make it weird for programs like Louisville

646
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:20.480
<v Speaker 2>and Kentucky for that matter, because of the portal, you know,

647
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:23.799
<v Speaker 2>you're just not as likely to get guys for as long.

648
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:27.400
<v Speaker 2>But maybe, but maybe I'm actually maybe maybe I'm wrong there,

649
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:32.359
<v Speaker 2>because you know, if you're if you're Kentucky, I guess

650
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:35.440
<v Speaker 2>recently you're used to just having guys stay short, stay

651
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:36.799
<v Speaker 2>for a short amount of time because they're going to

652
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:39.440
<v Speaker 2>the NBA. And I guess Mark Pope could technically keep

653
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:41.680
<v Speaker 2>bringing in and he's got an elite class coming in,

654
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:43.839
<v Speaker 2>so maybe that'll be the case moving forward, that Kentucky

655
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:46.519
<v Speaker 2>starts bringing in a bunch of five stars that only

656
00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:48.319
<v Speaker 2>stay a year and and and you know, they just

657
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:52.640
<v Speaker 2>don't stick around very long. Or maybe Mark Pope brings

658
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:54.440
<v Speaker 2>in some five stars that do have the one and

659
00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:56.759
<v Speaker 2>dune potential, but he also brings in guys that are,

660
00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:59.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, really good college players, but maybe they don't

661
00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:02.200
<v Speaker 2>tran to the NBA right away. Well, if you're at

662
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:04.160
<v Speaker 2>a place like Kentucky, why would you leave because you've

663
00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:06.039
<v Speaker 2>got I mean, you would think if you're a Kentucky

664
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:08.079
<v Speaker 2>you're having success, they're gonna be able to compensate you

665
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:10.480
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to nil as good as anybody else.

666
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:15.800
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm just I'm thinking CHUCKI Hepburn. I hope

667
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:17.719
<v Speaker 2>people realize like how good this guy is, and I

668
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:18.920
<v Speaker 2>think people do right now. He's one of the best

669
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:21.480
<v Speaker 2>point guards in the country. I think he's up there

670
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:26.239
<v Speaker 2>with I mean, to me, he's the best player Louisville's

671
00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:29.880
<v Speaker 2>had since Donovan Mitchell. And honestly, this is gonna sound

672
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:32.360
<v Speaker 2>crazy because Donovan one of those guys that is going

673
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:36.280
<v Speaker 2>to be a legend, absolutely, especially with how much he

674
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:39.239
<v Speaker 2>loves Louisville and makes it clear. But Donovan was a

675
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:41.920
<v Speaker 2>good player at Louisville, He's a way better pro. Like

676
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:44.960
<v Speaker 2>anybody who claimed they saw Donovan being this kind of

677
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:47.400
<v Speaker 2>a star in the NBA, I think you're a liar

678
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:51.239
<v Speaker 2>or you just it was wishful thinking because you're a fan.

679
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Like he was good, he had a lot of potential,

680
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:54.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot of upside. I thought he could be a pro.

681
00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Donovan's one of the best guards in the NBA and

682
00:34:57.000 --> 00:34:59.719
<v Speaker 2>has been that for many years now. So that's why

683
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:02.159
<v Speaker 2>he's viewed and remember the way he is more so

684
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:04.000
<v Speaker 2>because of that than what he did at Louisville. He

685
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.320
<v Speaker 2>didn't even play. I mean, he played one tournament game

686
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:09.199
<v Speaker 2>or one one tournament game. And I'm here, I am

687
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:11.000
<v Speaker 2>sound like I'm discrediting Gono him and I'm just I'm

688
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:14.599
<v Speaker 2>trying to point out that, like with Chucky, even if

689
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:16.000
<v Speaker 2>they don't go on a deep run in the tournament,

690
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:18.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if people ever will ever remember him

691
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:21.519
<v Speaker 2>for being quite as good as he as he is,

692
00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:25.920
<v Speaker 2>because I mean, outside after Russ, I mean, honestly, I'll

693
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:27.719
<v Speaker 2>say it. I think Chuckie Hepburn is a better college

694
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.079
<v Speaker 2>player this year than Donovan was here at Louisville, who

695
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:31.960
<v Speaker 2>knows if he ever plays in the NBA, meaning Chucky,

696
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:34.199
<v Speaker 2>but I think you can make the case that that

697
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:35.800
<v Speaker 2>that this is the best player Louis has had since

698
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Russ Smith. I mean, am I wrong? I mean Damian

699
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Lee was really good for one year, So maybe I'm

700
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:43.760
<v Speaker 2>actually doing with doing to Damian Lee what I'm worried

701
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:46.239
<v Speaker 2>people are going to do with Chucky because that team

702
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:48.360
<v Speaker 2>didn't play in the tournament because they kept themselves out.

703
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:50.400
<v Speaker 2>That team was good and Damien was good. So maybe

704
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:53.320
<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe that's actually the example of how if you

705
00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:55.320
<v Speaker 2>don't make a deep tournament run and you don't stay

706
00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:57.840
<v Speaker 2>longer than a year or two, then you're just, you know,

707
00:35:57.880 --> 00:35:59.880
<v Speaker 2>you're a little easier to forget when it comes to

708
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:07.280
<v Speaker 2>talking about guys that are remembered around here forever. Yeah, yeah, Chucky, hepburn.

709
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:10.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean this was brought up yesterday I think, or

710
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:12.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe no, it was late last week I think when

711
00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:16.920
<v Speaker 2>we had Kent Spencer on from WHS eleven. And he's right,

712
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:22.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Chucky is not just you know, bringing over

713
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:26.199
<v Speaker 2>what he brought from Wisconsin. He's statistically a lot better,

714
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:28.360
<v Speaker 2>but just visually, I watch a lot of college basketball

715
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:29.639
<v Speaker 2>because you know, I don't have a life I watched

716
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:32.159
<v Speaker 2>I was very familiar with Chucky's game at Wisconsin and

717
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:35.719
<v Speaker 2>he was a good player. But this Chucky Hepburn, is different.

718
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:37.639
<v Speaker 2>And I know some are gonna make the comment, well,

719
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:41.000
<v Speaker 2>it's because he's playing in the ACC and it stinks. Well, Chucky,

720
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:43.559
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, has played at a high, high level

721
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:46.280
<v Speaker 2>against anybody Louisvill's played this year. Like he's been able

722
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:49.239
<v Speaker 2>to impact the game in a major way, regardless of

723
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:51.679
<v Speaker 2>who they've played. For the most part, he's had nights

724
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:54.159
<v Speaker 2>where he was off as far as shooting. But I mean,

725
00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:57.159
<v Speaker 2>he's looked everybody on this team right now that has

726
00:36:57.199 --> 00:36:59.679
<v Speaker 2>a role and that he's playing a lot of minutes.

727
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:02.239
<v Speaker 2>They're playing good basketball. But Chucky is the guy that

728
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:05.199
<v Speaker 2>I think is just you know, put it this way.

729
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:08.559
<v Speaker 2>When it comes to Louisville being talked about as a

730
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:11.159
<v Speaker 2>team that people might want to look out for in March,

731
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:14.079
<v Speaker 2>and then they bring up a player, he's the first

732
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:17.159
<v Speaker 2>guy they're bringing up for good reason. All right, let's

733
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:18.360
<v Speaker 2>take our last break. We'll come back here on the

734
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:20.760
<v Speaker 2>other side, wrap things up. It's coffee and company. Feel

735
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:26.519
<v Speaker 2>about Thorntons right here on Sports Talk seven ninety, so

736
00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:29.599
<v Speaker 2>we now know how many people watched the National Championship

737
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:33.519
<v Speaker 2>on Monday night between Notre Dame and Ohio State. According

738
00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:38.039
<v Speaker 2>to On three Sports, It says here that twenty two

739
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:41.320
<v Speaker 2>point one million viewers. That was the average for the game,

740
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:44.800
<v Speaker 2>and it was down from last year's game between Michigan

741
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:48.480
<v Speaker 2>and Washington State, which the average then, or Michigan and

742
00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Washington I should say, which the average then was twenty

743
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:53.119
<v Speaker 2>five just over twenty five million. So I guess it

744
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:54.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of depends on the way you look at it,

745
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:57.320
<v Speaker 2>because I'm also looking at another report here. This is

746
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:01.880
<v Speaker 2>from Ben Portnoy, who covers college for the Sports Business Journal.

747
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:05.400
<v Speaker 2>He framed it a little bit differently. ESPN announces the

748
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:07.719
<v Speaker 2>college football title game between Notre Dame and Ohio State

749
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:10.679
<v Speaker 2>drew twenty two point one million viewers. The game peaked

750
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:13.280
<v Speaker 2>at twenty six point one million viewers between eight thirty

751
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:16.280
<v Speaker 2>and eight forty five, and it's the most watched non

752
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:19.760
<v Speaker 2>NFL sporting event in the past year. So as far

753
00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:23.599
<v Speaker 2>as where it peaked, it did really well exceeded last year. However,

754
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:26.920
<v Speaker 2>the average from a year ago was higher than what

755
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:30.239
<v Speaker 2>we saw the other night, which is I mean, I

756
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:35.239
<v Speaker 2>guess you could make the claim that two humongous brands

757
00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:39.679
<v Speaker 2>with humongous followings, really national programs within the sport of

758
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:43.400
<v Speaker 2>college football, Notre Dame in Ohio state, that should dominate

759
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:47.400
<v Speaker 2>every number. I mean, that should have it. I mean, again,

760
00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:50.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not being critical. I guess though, I guess what

761
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:52.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean is that if you're somebody that wanted to

762
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:55.960
<v Speaker 2>make the claim that the championship game going this laid

763
00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:57.840
<v Speaker 2>into the you know, I guess it's early in the

764
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.920
<v Speaker 2>calendar year, but the college football see lasting as long

765
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:03.800
<v Speaker 2>as it did in the national Championship game being this

766
00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:06.360
<v Speaker 2>laid into the NFL playoffs, it just kind of felt

767
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:09.039
<v Speaker 2>off and maybe that would impact viewership. You could make

768
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:12.599
<v Speaker 2>the case that it did, because again the average was down,

769
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:15.360
<v Speaker 2>although it peaked at a higher at a higher level,

770
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:18.159
<v Speaker 2>you still feel like with all what I mean, as

771
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:20.800
<v Speaker 2>much as people make fun of the SCC and claim

772
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:23.199
<v Speaker 2>that they I'm sorry, as much as people make the

773
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:27.280
<v Speaker 2>case that the that ESPN wants their partners, you know,

774
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:30.960
<v Speaker 2>the SEC, to get multiple playoff spots that maybe they

775
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:33.880
<v Speaker 2>don't deserve because they're in bed together, and again, I

776
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:36.039
<v Speaker 2>think there's some truth to that they are business partners,

777
00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:39.199
<v Speaker 2>and the College Football Playoff is an ESPN owned event,

778
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:45.119
<v Speaker 2>So I think the comments about you know, it's there's

779
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:48.519
<v Speaker 2>a conflict of interest, I think that's legit. However, even

780
00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:51.320
<v Speaker 2>if there's not an SEC team in it and they

781
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:53.760
<v Speaker 2>want more of their you know, their family members in it,

782
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:56.880
<v Speaker 2>if you will, you know, those who really value and

783
00:39:56.960 --> 00:39:58.960
<v Speaker 2>understand that you need a ton of viewership when they

784
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:01.079
<v Speaker 2>see teams like note or Dame in Ohio State are

785
00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:03.320
<v Speaker 2>going to be playing in the National championship Game, they

786
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:05.599
<v Speaker 2>probably think, well, you really can't get much better than that.

787
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:08.519
<v Speaker 2>And again, the number was still good, but I think

788
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:11.760
<v Speaker 2>the issue. If you wanted to just say, yeah, viewership

789
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:13.960
<v Speaker 2>was down and it's an issue, I would chalk it

790
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:16.599
<v Speaker 2>up to it just was weird. It was awkward for

791
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:19.280
<v Speaker 2>the game to be played this late in January. But

792
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:20.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe by next year we'll be more used to it

793
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:23.840
<v Speaker 2>because we've had one season, and maybe it won't feel

794
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:26.360
<v Speaker 2>as weird. But it just something was off with the playoff.

795
00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:27.960
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not complaining. I'm glad we have it, and

796
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:31.119
<v Speaker 2>it was exciting and it definitely enhanced the overall product

797
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:33.760
<v Speaker 2>of college football. But I feel like I was just

798
00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:35.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of over it towards the end. All Right, we're

799
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<v Speaker 2>out of time. Thank you guys for sticking around here

800
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<v Speaker 2>to the end. We'll be back at it tomorrow at

801
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<v Speaker 2>three o'clock, and I hope you'll join us right here

802
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<v Speaker 2>on Sports Talk seven ninety
