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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone looks like I got a guest with me today.

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What's up? Thomas? Hey?

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Speaker 2: How are you man?

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Speaker 1: Doing good? Doing good?

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Speaker 3: Just logged down and waiting for everybody to uh catch

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up here?

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Speaker 1: How's your how's your Sunday gone?

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Speaker 2: It's going fine?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: I realize that kind of a bought on Sunday. I

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kind of go into repose, you know, So don't take

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a person.

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Speaker 1: That's fine, no problem. Are we watching a movie tonight?

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Speaker 2: I'll see what I feel depending on how long this goes.

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How's that. I don't mean to be flaky, but I'm okay, yeah,

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no problem. My level's gonna dirty. But we'll go as

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long as you watch on the stream.

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Speaker 3: Sure, okay, cool. So I wanted to have you on

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today to this whole occupation regime that we've been that

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we've been suffering. There's a lot of people who, once they.

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Speaker 1: Discover, you know, things like the JQ and things like that,

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they they believe that everyone that the world is basically

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fallen to it, and that it controls everyone, and to

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the point where they don't think that an independent like country,

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a country could actually have a Jewish population and organized

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Jewish population and not be controlled by them, So I guess,

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you know, first this came up, this just a whole

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Russia thing yesterday because apparently Putin is Putin has been

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called habodnik.

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Speaker 3: How without even addressing the Russian thing, because I think

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it's stupid the idea that a country cannot have an

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organized Jewish population and still be a country that isn't

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run by them.

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Speaker 1: How does that in your head? How does that work? Well?

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Speaker 2: The problem is that lay people. I don't like that terminology,

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but I can't think of a better way to characterize it.

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They don't understand politics, and they don't understand historical processes,

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and they don't understand the anthropological aspects of these things.

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It's like these guys who, you know what. I don't

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know to be too hard on Alex Jones, because I

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think in some ways he does good things. And I'd

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rather I've got to wonder to convincing normies of anything.

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But I'd way rather people can consume that kind of stuff

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than say, like Fox News. But even like a bunch

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of Alex Jones fanboys, they'll claim stuff like the Cold

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War or with some sort of allegerate main. I mean,

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that's just not how a human society at scale worse,

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and that's not how humans interface with technology. You know,

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you don't you know, you know, you don't kill off

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one hundreds of thousands of people, like pretending to wage

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proxy wars against the Soviet Union, and you don't. You

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don't devise weapons platforms that cost billions and billions of

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dollars at the end of the day, that deploy to

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orbital space and can wipe out entire cities so that

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you can pretend that you're fighting some sort of ideological

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conflict to fool people. I mean, if you think that,

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you're a complete idiot. But I mean more people think

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that way than you might suspect, because the variables are

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too complex, or they're too nuanced, or there's an intuition

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required to kind of perceive these things that's just beyond them.

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So their view is that the world's organized like their

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workplace or something, where intercende rivalries don't compromise the core

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mission of the firm or something, and ordinary people just

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subject to these designs of more powerful people. It's like

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a symbolance character the way things really are. And I

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think when people think about desionism, their idea such that

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they can perceive it at all, is that Jews are

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bad guys or they're like rich guys who are some

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sort of Machiavelian global elite who just control everything like

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some sort of like some sort of majority shareholder population

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and a big company, you know. And like I said,

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it's a case of people not understanding of human population

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is interact and how conceptual horizons of respective populations collide,

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and how even people who don't necessarily have personal enmity

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towards one another or some sort of horrible cultural clash,

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and how they live among each other. Sometimes the existence

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of one has a deleterious effect on the way of

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life that they're tofore dominant culture, and that leads to violence.

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I mean, honestly, there's that aspect in post Soviet Russia

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between Slavs and Jews. I don't think those Slavs hate

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Jews or vice versa. I think they look down on

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each other, okay, but they don't look at each other

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the way, you know, like white folks and blacks did

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during like the worst days that like the sixties and

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early nineties, And they don't look at each other the

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way like Palestinians and Israeli's new You know, people who

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think that like politics has to do with like people

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you personally don't like, Like that has nothing to do

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with it either, you know. But there's the same people

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too think that, like the grand question is, like there's

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too many Mexicans and I don't want to live by

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black people, like neither one of which is a political problem.

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There's political actions that both of those things, but those

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are social problems. You know. This is exactly why you're

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an idiot if you pretend that, like people voting somehow

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dictates the course of actual event to the disposition of elites,

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which there isn't, but even if there was, these people

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can't understand the subject matter, So what it would be

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like it'd be like consulting people who can't do math

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on how to like design and build a bridge that

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will be able to bear a load or something.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's that kind of stuff. And people, particularly people born

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after the Cold War. I'm not transfing young people at all.

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I don't do that, and I think young people with

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scale actually a lot of insights older people don't. But

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I think people unless they unless they have been like

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insinuating to the culture, or they're kind of part of

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the minority. It's a growing minority, but it's still the

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minority of people who like travel a lot and like

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spend time in the oldest block. They don't understand the Russians,

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Like they just don't. They think like Russia is like

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the EU, but they're just kind of different. Or they

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got this idea that Russians are these kinds of malicious,

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bad guys, but they don't understand that there's a really

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tragic and really dysfunctional relationship between the Jews and the

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majority there, you know, like sold the needs. They wrote

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an entire book on that. This characterized the Soviet Union

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for seven years. They literally went to war with Israel.

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You know, the a catalyzing moment, one of the major

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plane hijackings, one of the few were successful direct the

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action team was able to liberate the aircraft without killing

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all the hostages. It was an early success at GSG nine.

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They were like the Bundesfaer like counter terrorism unit. It

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was not surprising that the crowds did this well.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but.

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Speaker 2: Flight Leuftan's a flight one eighty one. It was hijacked

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by the Popular Front Floration of Palestine in general command.

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They're the same guy as he blew up the discotheque

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in West Berlin. But interestingly, and people would know this,

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it was like three men and a woman who were

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the hijacked team. And that was the first time anybody

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ever wore like a shade rivera visage on their shirt,

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like the PFLP did that because they were saying that, like,

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you know, Palestine's the front line of the struggle against

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you know, capitalism, you know, and like the Jews of

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these are oppress or standard bearers of of you know, America,

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you know. And uh, incidentally, that's why guys like Horseta

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Mahler and other like national Socialist Partisans, you know, we're

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involved with like the Royth Army for action and things.

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But it was understood during the Cold War, like the

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mortal enemies of Israel are the East Block. Okay, I

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mean this one without saying everybody understood that there, you know, basically,

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like the main enemy of Jewry and political terms is Russia.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: It was without saying, you know, and that that didn't

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go away after the Cold War and the Ukraine War.

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I the enemies of the Russian Federation, which me bit

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to do that anyway, Like NATO was looking for another

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make Ork deployment, but it was mainly returned the serve

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because the Russian Federation deployed to Syria and and routed

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the Israelis. You know, Russia's allied with his Blah. They

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were allied with a sad they sold out a sod

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that the Russians do. But I don't really, I don't

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really understand how unless you're a complete idiot, like you

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couldn't notice that, you know, and so to you like

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Putin was just kidding when the parts of the Russian

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Federation deployed, you know, basically to provide combined arms or

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Hesblah and the Syrian Arab army against the IDEF and

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their allies. And then this guy who's like randomly, this

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Jewish zigon Is somehow gets installed in Ukraine and then

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suddenly there's like this massive escalation. That's just a coincidence.

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But like Putin actually loves Israel and their friends. I mean,

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I that's so stupid. I'm not gonna entertain it, Okay,

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I mean it's I don't argue with people like that.

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The Semons. Don't argue with people who tell me that

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like the when landing was fake or that like nine

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to elevee was fake. I mean, you're you're I mean

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you're you're you're you're mentally retarded if you think that way.

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But yeah, nad, I mean that's why. But it's the

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same reason people, I mean, I don't really try my

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aps say because like generally I don't respect them, Like

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the only ops I respected in my life, like we're

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all dead by now, like the ones that it's just now,

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like just don't cut it. But like these internet I get,

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I get like hate ship all the time and like

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generally don't read it, but occasionally they do, and like

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I think, I don't know exactly what they were talking about.

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And I'm not trying to personalize this, but like it's

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it's illustrated. Like uh, it's like Artie Chick. I don't

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want to Hyde Park. She's like the Jewish broad. I mean,

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she she's cool. She's a friend of mine, you know,

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like sometimes we go off for drinks or something, and

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I'm you know, uh, she knows some of the same

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people that do we reachate Chicago, but you know, she

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like pulled up some selfies with me, which is fine.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I like it when girls want to take photos of

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me and people are like, you're a phony because you

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like don't hate Jews. I'm like, well, why would I

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hate Jews? Around like hating people? Like what what does

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that even mean?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: Like I I walk around, I'm like, it's hack mode,

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and I'm like, this person's my enemy, and political terms,

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I'm gonna go either house or like murder them, like, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean what, well, it also it's you becoming them. I mean,

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they have a genuine hatred of people who they consider

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to be their enemies.

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Speaker 2: And it's also insane. I mean, for the record, this

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chicks like anti Zionist. That's only way in common, you know,

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but like it's I mean, obviously okay, otherwise why would

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she associate with me? But but the point is, like,

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you know, it's that you feel like a rational person.

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I mean, sitting around hating people's unmanly anyway, It's not

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that's not what a rational men do. It's unerryan, it's unchristian.

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But it's also now politics are about, you know, I mean,

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God forbid, uh, God forbid. If some sort of early

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nineties or like nineteen sixty eight situation jumped off here

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and like black folks were gutting for me for the

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color of my skin. I would not hesitate to like

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walk and low and throw shots they have them to

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defend myself. That doesn't mean like I hate the black guys.

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I know, like again, like why why wasn't one thing

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going to do with the other? You know, does that

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mean that your country goes to war, You're only gonna

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answer the call if like you personally hate the people

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down range of your field of fire. That's only like

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little girls think about stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: It also takes away from the historic respect of one's enemy,

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that too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well yeah, it's not personal. I mean, I

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get a. I mean, it's for better or worse, the

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natural state of the of this world is conflict. Conflicts endemic.

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I mean, like I'm like saying, I mean, general warfare

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at scale is rare, but conflict is endemic. And I

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mean that's it's literally authored into every aspect of sociological existence.

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And it wouldn't make any sense to be upset about that.

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I mean, the kinds of people who can't accept reality

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are these kinds of ridiculous. You know, Uh, progressive types

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you thankfully are mostly gonna die off with the elder generation.

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But they're the only people who think it's incorrect that

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the world is this way, and we've got social engineer

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that away. You know, you're you're claim to be right winging,

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but your whobole kink is like I hate X, Y,

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and Z people and that's what informs my politics, is

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like I just hate people like this, you know, like

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I said, that's not the way, that's not the way.

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That's unmanly and aside from the fact it's got nothing

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to do with existential realities.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's a question, and I'll as somebody who maybe

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may be Catholic but also has a pretty good education

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in Calvinist theology. So hate is always irrational. God made

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a mistake by providing that particular emotion. God provided everything,

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and some things are a sin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's like saying that, like God approves of

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rape because like men rape women at war, you know,

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or like that's not you know what I'm saying Christianity,

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there was no sin, there'd be like no point to

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human what if and there, there'll also be no piety

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and there'd be no cele asian.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So one of the things I wanted to say about

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Russia was I have a friend he's been on the

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show a couple of times, Ferris Modad. He's he's from

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Lebanon originally, he lives in Britain, in England now. And

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something he said about Putin was Putin can accept the

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fact that there are people in his country that are

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talking about communism. People can accept the Putin can accept

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the fact that there are people in his country even

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talking about fascism, but Putin cannot accept that there is

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anyone promoting liberalism in his country.

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Speaker 1: He goes when.

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Speaker 3: Putin, when people start to promote liberalism, which is probably

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the most derascinating and chaos inducing system, he has to

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put that person down.

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Speaker 4: He has to be yeah, what's also people don't understand there,

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like the Russians are anti high Nazi, so they must

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like Zionism or like liberals.

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Speaker 2: It's like, do you realize these people lost one in

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six of their population in four years, so twenty five

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million of them went down fighting the German Reich, and

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they supposed to be like, yeah, we we love Nazism.

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It's like you fucking retarded. I mean like what, like

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how else? Why? Why?

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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 2: Why? Why the actual fuck would the Russians like national

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socialism or think they're like that's cool, Like that's there.

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It makes perfect sense the Ivans to hold out the

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German Reich as they're like ultimate like tolluric evil. That

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makes perfect sense. Like what else would they how else

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do they conceptualize it? You know, but it's it's not

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it's not that. It's not there were Russians who built

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Holocaust music, you knows, it's not that Russians do. When

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the Russians conquered the the Eastern occupation zone, they encouraged

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the natural Volkes Army to preserve the traditions of the Wehrmacht.

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They said, we're not We're not. We're not gonna build

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them a more old jewelry. We we lost twenty million

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people fighting the fascists. We're the victims of fascism. You know,

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they went to war with Israel. You know, you can't

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pull that card that, you know, stupid on purpose card

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that because the Russians don't they don't like the German

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Reich and they don't appreciate it when he's like confused

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white inn words in Ukraine like pretend that they're Nazis

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by like fighting for greater Judea. You know, the fact

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that the Russians don't appreciate that doesn't like make them

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a bunch of like anti fascist liberals. But again, I mean,

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some people are too stupid to be alive, and the

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people propose those things constitute that class.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: I think people see that Putin would go out of

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his way to protect the Jewish population in his country,

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which is also something that Asad did, which is also

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which is also something that Iran does right now.

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Speaker 1: So I guess if you do that.

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Speaker 3: To some people, that means that you have to you're

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bowing down to them they somehow control you. It just

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doesn't make it doesn't make any sense. It only makes

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sense if you've bought into these people can control or

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in control of everything.

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Speaker 2: Well, It's like I said, that's why that's why most

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most normies like shouldn't try and understand these things, because

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apparently they're not capable. I also think that most people, like,

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for better or worse, I kind of a weird upbring

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because again, you know, like my mom was a rich

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kid from La My dad was like this third port

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Oki who wounded up becoming very successful. But I'm kind

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of like as a red Niggagh person who grew up

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in Chicago, and specifically I grew up in like a

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very Jewish hood. Okay, I was like around these people

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my whole life. I'm like still around them. Like that

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doesn't mean I have like any grand insight. But when

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there's guys from like the middle of nowhere or from

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like mall of America geography and nowhere places, they developed

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this kind of like weird idea of like Jews that's

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like no basis in reality. You know. This goes for

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like the megatures retards who think Jews are like these

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like Viking super rians who like love democracy or whatever.

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And it goes to these guys who think that they're

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like these like super being bad guys control everything, like

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they don't understand them as a people. I think that

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I do. I think frankly, that's part of it, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was talking to doctor Johnson the other day,

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Matthew R. F Al Johnson and him just like I

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mean that part of Jersey he grew up in was

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Jewish and Italian.

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Speaker 2: Same people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and he and he says, he says this,

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He goes, when I'm talking about jewelry, I'm not talking

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about my dentist. I'm not talking about I'm talking about

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an organize. I'm talking about an organization, A an inclination. A.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he goes.

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Speaker 3: Something that something that can't just be laid off on

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one person. It's something you know, and you know we're covering.

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You know, so wrote wrote the book on this and

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gave us a whole history of one country and how

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they dealt with it, and we're covering this. And even

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even Soliesen shows that early in the book, in the

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Scheeddel system, that it was five percent of the population

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of that system that had any power, any wealth, anything,

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and they were just as apt to destroy or oppress

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their own people as they were anyone else.

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Speaker 2: People also don't understand that. I mean they don't understand.

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I mean, they don't understand the political I mean, you're

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talking about impersonal forces of a historical nature at literally

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global scale. You know, It's just it's just it'd be

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like it'd be like saying it'd be like it'd be

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like judging a variable in economics or like uh or

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like a scale economic actor by how this guy you

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know spends his money and invests like it's not that's

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not what we're talking about, you know, And it's maybe

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it's also the reason why it fails when these like

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American Renaissance types act like Asians or some super race.

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They don't commit crimes. It's like, you know, your enemy

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in political terms is your enemy because him asserting his

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own politics constituents or repudiation of your way of life.

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Like maybe this population are a bunch of great guys

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and they're saintly or maybe they're like reprobate savages and criminals.

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It doesn't matter because that's not how we judge politics.

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I don't want to be ruled by the Chinese because

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they don't go out and steal cars. You know that.

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And if you think about it that way again, you're

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you're you're a bourgeois simpleton, you know. Well, I mean

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it's guys or maybe maybe or maybe they're terrible people. Generally,

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it doesn't matter because Jewish politics consumes are repudiation of

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my way of life, whether the kind of guys I

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don't want to have over for cocktails or to talk

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about women in the NFL or whether they're like guys

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who are like scumbags, and I can't stand the sight

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of that's totally irrelevant.

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Speaker 3: The so you can look at things like this. I

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love reading the Jerusalem Post because they basically will tell you.

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It's almost like it's like, is that old joke about

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you see a headline or you read something in a

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Jewish periodical. It's like, okay, is this the Daily Forward

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or the Daily Stormer? I can't tell, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So they had this article and shout out to the

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guys on the Third Rail podcast for pointing this out.

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It's from two weeks ago. It says, if New York

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falls to country follows, is the future of American Jewry

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at risk. And they're talking to this rabbi, doctor Hank Scheimkoff,

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and this is what he says.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he says, this is the way they describe him.

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Shimkoff has worked on over seven hundred political campaigns in

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fourteen countries, in four continents, and in forty four US states.

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Some names among his previous clientele Bill Clinton, Michael Bloomberg,

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Mexican President Leonelle Fernandez.

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Speaker 3: People read that and it's obvious that there is organized jewelry.

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If this guy is on four continents promoting elections, he's

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I guarantee you he's not promoting elections that are not

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in his best interest or or whoever.

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Speaker 2: He'sn't a piece that says this guy they're talking about

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he's running from here in New York. You sound like

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pussy liberal. Uh. You know, if you find this guy scary,

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you're either a demented old woman or you're some crazy

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Zionist who like when the wind blows you claim you're

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about to be pogrammed. So I mean, like, the fact

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is these people are slipping because they hold up to

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remember when they didn't talk that way. There's actually like

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something slick about their propaganda. You know, like in nineteen

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eighty five, if you'd read the j Post, it'd be like,

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you know, for example, he'd be saying like, you know,

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the Soviet Union brutalizes, you know, a nonconforming except where

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they go look at what they're doing in Afghanistan. You know,

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Soviet jewelry loves freedom and wants wants to live like Americans,

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and the Stalinist depressors are are abusing them. Now, I

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mean obviously a narrative like that is laid with propaganda too,

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but it's like actually credible in a certain way, like

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uh claiming some like claiming some cornball like Berkeley type

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guy who claims to be Maslam but like goes to

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like his gay friend's weddings and shit, he's like he's

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gonna po gram us. It's like he look like a

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fucking idiot, you know. I mean it's like and then yeah,

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like and then it'll be like this guy like ry

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By like Shicky like fuck Bock. It's like he owns

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you know, like a uh he owns like a gay

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pornography label, and like he's involved in human trafficking and

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you know he's on the staff of like freedom loving

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blad musawood Ski and like this Italian mafia boss and

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like he was a friend of Jeffrey Epstein. And then

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like when people like on the internet like start dropping

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con it's like, you know, this guy sounds like a

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super villain or something. You know, they like banish all

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comments and stuff. It's like, man, look are you guys?

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You guys are like something out of Austin Powers or something. Man,

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It's like what happened to you did y'all like bottomize

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yourselves or something like. I mean, that's kind of stilly rants.

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Speaker 3: And you can tell and you can tell how bad

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off they have it where they still have to go

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to the Russia evil well, and then they go then

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they go to like Iran and Syria and Asad Syria

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in places like that, which anyone who like can do

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a search on Google can find out that there are

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huge Jewish communities there have been for thousands, you know,

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for a thousand years, and they're protected by the government.

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say that there are people you know who like just

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found out about the JQ a month ago, who will

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be like, well, why are they protecting Jews?

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Speaker 1: Would why would Vladimir Putin care about Russian Jews being

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in danger anywhere? He should want to kill them? All right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's like this like Retardo politics. It's like

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Retardo non politics. What's also too, I mean that problem

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is Zion is I mean, and I'm not gonna sit here.

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I mean, obviously I don't think Israel was ever like

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anything but a totally dysfunctional political system, but it did

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actually used to be a multi party system before Rabine

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was assassinated, and uh, you know, they the policy in

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terms of direct administration of conquered territories. And obviously the

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founding action of Israel was a mass ethnic cleansing operation

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and you can't like erase that. But moving forward, you

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can't have a leekud one party state that's like this

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openly racial state that uh regularly assaults in to this

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kind of mass concentration camp that is Gaza, to quite

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literally thin the ranks that people've identified to the racial enemies.

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how like, well, we're an especially victimized population because racists

472
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,880
don't like us. Like that just doesn't work, you know,

473
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,319
even a simpleton. And then that's one of the reasons why, like,

474
00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:28,559
world opinion is totally shifted. I mean, part of it's

475
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:32,519
the Cold War ending and the wh paradigm ending. But

476
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:39,160
world opinion doesn't matter. Whether that's right or not isn't important.

477
00:29:39,359 --> 00:29:42,920
You know, you can't you can't make yourself a pariah

478
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,160
and then appeal to like Neumberg morality to say no,

479
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,200
I'm not a pariah, I'm a victim. That doesn't work.

480
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,119
That's what I'm always saying it's like late Soviet and nature,

481
00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:55,920
you know, both to propaganda from the Department of State as

482
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,799
well as out of the Tel Aviv. It's like, these

483
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:01,960
people don't understand. There's got to be context, you know,

484
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:07,599
otherwise it doesn't serve a purpose. Otherwise it's your it's

485
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:10,880
self defeating. It's worse than neutral, it's self defeating.

486
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:18,039
Speaker 3: Yes's it really is with how people can access so

487
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:21,799
much information and then they can talk in public now

488
00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:24,440
through social media and different platforms. I can start a

489
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,000
podcast and everything. It really just goes to show you

490
00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:30,440
how people don't understand politics. Like if you were to say,

491
00:30:31,119 --> 00:30:34,759
if you were to tell people, ask people the question, okay,

492
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:38,759
so basically the Vietnam War was a proxy war with

493
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:45,559
World Communism and the United States, and okay, okay, so

494
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,160
well why was the United States? You know, why was

495
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,160
your grain trade between the United States and the Soviet

496
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,759
Union during the Cold War. They can't they can't wrap

497
00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:57,880
their head around that. You can't wrap your head around

498
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,279
how you can have your you can try with like

499
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,839
your biggest enemy on the planet and that, well.

500
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,599
Speaker 2: They don't understand, they don't understand globalism. But I realized

501
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,240
that too, even people who otherwise I think I started

502
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,480
really realizing this, you know, and like I rejoined the

503
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:21,160
world and stuff, and you know, October twenty twenty before that,

504
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,519
you know, it has been a few years or any

505
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:25,279
since I got my life together and stuff. But like

506
00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:27,599
when I was on probation and stuff, I was still writing.

507
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,319
But I was basically just say going to Washington Library

508
00:31:31,359 --> 00:31:34,319
and know, instant library and like writing stuff and going

509
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:37,440
on on research. And there was like two or three

510
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:42,200
guys who I'd run into, like around the city, who

511
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,119
I'd talked to about these things. But I didn't really

512
00:31:46,119 --> 00:31:48,359
realize the depth of people's ignorance. So I remember, like rite,

513
00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:53,279
when I got online again, I I was trying to

514
00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:57,799
explain to this guy kind of my interpretation and the

515
00:31:57,839 --> 00:32:03,960
Great Depression, and I realized he was talking about national states,

516
00:32:04,039 --> 00:32:07,319
which is something you probably picked him in college. He's

517
00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:08,839
like talking about the world like it was the year

518
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,599
nineteen thirty and like that there are no more states,

519
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,880
you know, there's there's something nominally called the United States

520
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,880
of America, where like power is concentrated periodically has cracked

521
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,720
ouns on like the free flow of persons and commerce

522
00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:25,519
across the borders what you're seeing now. But this idea

523
00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:29,160
that there's like these discrete, self contained loci of power

524
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:33,799
that are essentially insular from one another, it's like that

525
00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:37,200
that honestly hasn't existed since nineteen eighteen. This is a fiction.

526
00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:39,920
You know, it's a fiction, and it's I'm not even

527
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,279
saying it's like ledgered nain By horrible people like people

528
00:32:43,359 --> 00:32:49,119
invoke these concepts more or less to kind of conceptualize

529
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,400
the world, because otherwise we're talking in abstraction and there's

530
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,519
not like a common conceptual vocabulary. I mean, like, yeah,

531
00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:00,559
there's a place called France, there's a place called England,

532
00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:04,960
there's a place called Japan. But those places have been

533
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,880
called that for thousands of years. You know, this idea

534
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:13,319
of like Westphalian style states that's not some permanent thing.

535
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:23,759
And essentially the three hundred years subsequent were like moves

536
00:33:23,839 --> 00:33:31,400
towards you know, a limited modality of globalism, which is

537
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,160
the superpower era, which is why World War two happened.

538
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:39,480
The Cold War was the grand struggle between two globalisms.

539
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,720
Now there is one globalism, Like where are these other

540
00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:45,480
forms of government? Don't say like North Korea with just

541
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,480
some weird Garrison state because unfortunately for them, they border

542
00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:51,200
Russia and China. And I'm talking about some like random

543
00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:53,799
kingdom of like one hundred and fifty thousand people. I'm

544
00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:58,279
talking about like real, at scale political organization. There's only

545
00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:02,559
one form of government. They's under the Department of States. Illiterate,

546
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,079
there's not democracy and not democracy. What's the not democracy?

547
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,079
Is there? Is? There is there an Eastern block? I

548
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:13,599
thought it went away. I seem to remember watching the

549
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:18,280
Berlin wallfall when I was a kid. What's the not democracy?

550
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,599
But I mean this cuts to the whole the literacy.

551
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,760
I mean, I mean Israel is a particularly extreme case

552
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,199
because they're very immus. There's this weird outlier like in

553
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,920
terms of their political values and their security situation within

554
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,920
the rationality of those values. But there's not there's not

555
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,159
like dozens of forms of governments. You know, there's only one.

556
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:48,960
It doesn't make sense to talk otherwise. But the State

557
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:56,760
Department Israel, this entire constellation of the dominant globalist fiction

558
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,320
they speak because if it's nineteen eighty because they're illiterate

559
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,360
and they they don't know how to characterize the world anymore.

560
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,440
I mean, part of that is problematic because of post

561
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:10,480
holes in their narrated But even aside from that, there's

562
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,199
like a monumental of literacy and conceptual terms there.

563
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 3: So doctor Johnson and I are reading two hundred years together.

564
00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:21,760
We're sixty one episodes in on that.

565
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: Oh well that's a lot.

566
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 3: We're not We're not even halfway done. We're just getting

567
00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:27,159
the halfway on the book.

568
00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 2: I've forgotten that.

569
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, no problem. And you know, like.

570
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,599
Speaker 3: Carl Doll and I just did an episode on uh yeah,

571
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:38,480
my front.

572
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a good guy.

573
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 3: And we just did an episode on Kadriannu and the

574
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,440
Iron Guard, and you know how Accusa was such a

575
00:35:48,199 --> 00:35:52,159
inspiration on them because of his talk of how jewelry

576
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,920
was taking over Romania. What is the benefit, like, what

577
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,800
do you see as the benefit of talking about that now?

578
00:36:00,199 --> 00:36:08,360
Talking about jewry historically? How zog? Now, what's the benefit

579
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,239
of doing I mean, and I mean I could take

580
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,199
arrows on this one from you if you want to

581
00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:15,440
play is there what is the benefit of me doing

582
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,159
all of this and talking about all.

583
00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: Of this because you're not gonna be able to nobody's

584
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,119
gonna make it be able to make sense of the

585
00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:27,280
current political and sociological paradigm. Lets they understand these things.

586
00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:32,480
And and let's you understand the Second World War and

587
00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:35,960
that the variables that led to it. You're not gonna

588
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,559
understand the twentieth century. If you understand the twentieth century,

589
00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:42,880
you don't understand today. And everything that happens today is

590
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:52,440
derivative at precedent. And particularly the these actors in the

591
00:36:52,480 --> 00:37:01,440
Islamic world, the Russian Federation, Israel, you know, uh, the

592
00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:05,079
Jews as a people, like globally, the globally asked for

593
00:37:06,559 --> 00:37:10,039
the disposition of America, which is not like the legacy

594
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:13,000
government of George Washington or something. It's the legacy government

595
00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:18,239
of the New Deal regime. That's the only conceptualize these things.

596
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,000
And plus two, like you know, you know Schumpeter and

597
00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:23,039
when you I mean Schumpeter was actually like a pure

598
00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:25,079
political economists in a lot of ways, anything we can

599
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:28,360
talk about like a pure economics and the way we

600
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,880
can talk about like neoliberal economics, we're talking about Schumpeter.

601
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,760
But uh, you know how we talk about condetry of

602
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:41,800
waves like in economics. Okay, maybe if I'm portunate that pronunciation,

603
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:48,400
but basically, in his book Business Cycles, like Cavials is

604
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,239
also on the democracy is kind of the most accessible book,

605
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,320
and that was his book that sold the best. It's

606
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,039
the most important. What was business cycles, which one of

607
00:37:56,039 --> 00:37:58,960
other things is like a huge repudiation to Keeens, but

608
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:02,239
it's very very damn it. It's two volumes. It's very difficult,

609
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,920
but it's in my opinion, it's a seminal statement on

610
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:10,519
Pluto economy, like the last like fire over years probably okay,

611
00:38:11,559 --> 00:38:16,719
but his whole point was, Look, you can't everybody else

612
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,400
that's throwne with teams that entire paradigm. You can't look

613
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:26,079
at like a thirty year increment of macroeconomic activity and

614
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,639
scaled actors they're in. You've got to look at this

615
00:38:30,679 --> 00:38:34,719
over at minimum, probably two hundred and fifty years, honestly,

616
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,199
probably more like three hundred years. If you want to

617
00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:42,639
get a conceptual picture of economic development at scale and

618
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:47,239
what business cycles truly represent, you've got to get politics

619
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,039
the same way. If I take like the last thirty years,

620
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,360
for example, I say I'm gonna study from nineteen ninety

621
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:57,320
five to you know, August tenth, twenty twenty five, that

622
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,719
doesn't tell me anything, you know, I mean, so Okay,

623
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,400
I can break down. I can break down like rigas

624
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,760
of battle and casualties and geostrategic nuances of like the

625
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:15,800
Gulf War, you know, and then person who's like being

626
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,920
a lot, and then how they were able to corral,

627
00:39:18,159 --> 00:39:23,559
you know, guys would combat experience as like you know,

628
00:39:23,679 --> 00:39:27,440
direct action elements and terrorist activity, and then can talk

629
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,559
about like the response to nine to eleven, but in

630
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:36,400
of itself that's meaningless, like that's like, uh, it'd be

631
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,480
like it'd be like if accident investigators like these days,

632
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,239
I know this. I'm on foot a lot, I'm on

633
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,920
footer on CTA and like forgive this to the scene

634
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,440
was like an old person tangent, but I'm walking. The

635
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,639
other day when I did, I took the bus back

636
00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:52,440
from the city and I disembarked like two miles from

637
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,280
my house and there was like this big accident at

638
00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:00,599
this intersection by ninety four and there's a this lady

639
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:03,159
police and she was like doing something with her phone

640
00:40:03,159 --> 00:40:05,920
with this weird app and I'm like, uh, I like

641
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,400
excuse me, man, like what are you doing, you know?

642
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,920
And she's like, oh, well, you know this is like

643
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,079
what we use to like try and you know basically

644
00:40:15,159 --> 00:40:18,760
you know, try and like restructure like accidents and things.

645
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,519
And I'm sure this is just like a simple app

646
00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:23,159
to help with a report. And I'm like, okay, thanks,

647
00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:26,320
that's interesting. So when I got home, like I started

648
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,639
researching like how they like how this guy evidences admitted

649
00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:33,039
in court and stuff, and the guys who actually do

650
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,719
like the insurance adjusted types. They use some greid to

651
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,280
that app. But they do all this like modeling, okay,

652
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:39,599
to try and see if like the physics of what

653
00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:42,719
they think happened like could have happened. Okay, all right,

654
00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:45,480
trying to just take like a twenty or thirty year

655
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,320
increment of history. They'd be like if these accident guys

656
00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:52,679
came on an accident and said, no, no, no, we're not

657
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,719
gonna model anything that happened before. I only care about

658
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,519
what happened at the moment of impact. That's how we're

659
00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:02,800
gonna solve accidents. That wouldn't tell you anything. They like

660
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,360
tell you how the body is ragged old. They tell

661
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,400
you about how like a Tesla when it collides with

662
00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:10,599
like a geep Cherokee. They tell you like how the

663
00:41:10,679 --> 00:41:14,280
conventions come apart, or like how the airbag deploys, it

664
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,760
would tell you nothing about the causal variables at an accident.

665
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,840
Do you see what I mean? That jumped out on

666
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,119
me because of the the kind of research that I do.

667
00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:26,559
I guess that was like the connection I made when

668
00:41:26,559 --> 00:41:28,239
this lady told me that, and when I got home

669
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,239
and started like google fooling the ship. But that's why

670
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,159
you got to look at it. So that's why it's important.

671
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,840
Let's do. The Iron Guard specifically is a weird not

672
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,920
weird in negative terms. It's it's it's unusual, it's unusual phenomenon.

673
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,960
That's why so much has written about it. When Romania.

674
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,719
You don't think of Romania as this country that has

675
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:58,079
this monumental impact on European culture generally because it it's

676
00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:01,000
it's it's a other than all stirred in the troubles.

677
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,639
It's really the only and I realized that this the

678
00:42:03,679 --> 00:42:08,920
sectarian sympathies were very different in each case, but it's

679
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,119
really the only case of like late modern Christian populations

680
00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:19,679
developing like a holy warrior element. Okay, and uh, that's

681
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,719
highly significant. And there's a parallel there between NAT and

682
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:31,159
the Islamic Awakening, and that makes it relevant to today

683
00:42:31,199 --> 00:42:35,360
in a way that not in ethical terms, but in

684
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,400
formal and structural terms. You know, things like things like

685
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,320
these most fascist parties and like the national Socialist movement,

686
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,719
aren't you know, there's like a national it's it's relevant

687
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,519
to study the German Reich. But you know, again like

688
00:42:48,599 --> 00:42:52,079
that dialectically it was so bound up with like the

689
00:42:52,159 --> 00:42:57,719
labor movement and direct antithetical resistance and communism and stuff.

690
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,599
You know, again the ethical foundation of his perennial, but

691
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:07,440
the structure of it is kind of historically contingent. The

692
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,159
Iron Guard is an outlawer, and I mean all all

693
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:16,639
all political modes of warfare and mobilization they're in or

694
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:22,679
are historically contingent. But that has a more uh that

695
00:43:22,679 --> 00:43:25,440
that has a more timeless significance, you know, even though

696
00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:28,000
that's tim poorly modally everything else too. That's why we'll

697
00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:29,440
think the significant.

698
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: I think one of the interesting things that that Carl Dahl,

699
00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:37,960
that Carl said about the Iron Guard was that they

700
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:43,039
were they were early they're doing what they were doing

701
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,320
what we're doing now. They were going around the country

702
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,000
building social capital with people. They were going around the

703
00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:54,119
country building parallel institutions. Yeah, they were they were doing

704
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,039
things that we should be doing now, which a lot

705
00:43:57,039 --> 00:44:01,000
of the same people who you know, can't get their

706
00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:04,239
head out of their ass, you know who who should

707
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,239
you know, who should be sympathetic to the things that

708
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,320
we talk about, But they can't get their head out

709
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,920
of their ass because they think that this is all

710
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,760
going to be solved on the national level.

711
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,119
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because they don't get it, because they're still

712
00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:20,519
thinking in terms of this this they're imprisoned by twentieth

713
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:27,079
century thinking, you know. Yeah, that's why that was the

714
00:44:27,119 --> 00:44:34,519
whole point of I mean, that's another thing is that, uh,

715
00:44:35,039 --> 00:44:38,360
these Romanian guys they were they weren't they weren't reactionaries,

716
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,599
you know, but they also weren't these like secular like

717
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,039
art futures, you know, they.

718
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:44,599
Speaker 1: And that.

719
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,079
Speaker 2: But that's why that's why I met Mercia Eliotti, who

720
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:50,320
really was kind of their like a lot of uh,

721
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,480
a lot of adveragem types who kind of wanted them

722
00:44:54,559 --> 00:45:00,800
murk him exaggerated is uh his and direct the action

723
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,000
type of stuff in the Iron Guard. But marcieli Audi

724
00:45:03,079 --> 00:45:07,480
he really was, you know, like a philosopher of the

725
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:10,639
Romanian dissident, right, And that's why he was an important theologian,

726
00:45:10,679 --> 00:45:14,119
and that's also why he had That's why he was

727
00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:18,360
conceptually sophisticated on anthropology and theology and stuff like that,

728
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,760
you know, any because he had a he had a

729
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,880
very progressive view of politics and direct action there not

730
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,440
not progressive in values terms, I mean progressive in uh

731
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,920
like formal terms. And you know that's remarkable, but a

732
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,679
lot of I mean, Romania is a great country and

733
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,400
a great people. I'm not saying bad things about them,

734
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,440
but Romania traditionally is you know, someone underdeveloped, you know,

735
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,360
and there's there's structural difficulties there, but that's those that

736
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,519
kinds of situations were off and you get very sophisticated

737
00:45:50,599 --> 00:45:55,800
revolutionaries emergent from you know, proudly because those people have

738
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,760
a difficult life and you know, the the kind of

739
00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:03,320
intelligency among them. You know, they spend a lot of

740
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,280
time thinking about things, especially in comparative terms, you know,

741
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,800
because they because the stuff dregglying takes your life, you know,

742
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,599
if you're if you're a comparatively comfortable guy, you know,

743
00:46:14,199 --> 00:46:16,960
in the United States or even even to this day,

744
00:46:17,039 --> 00:46:18,360
like in a place like a lot of the UK's

745
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,159
in my stuff. But like in a London or something

746
00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:25,280
like generally you're not really thinking about nor do you

747
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:29,360
care about, you know, what what life is like for

748
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:34,199
people where you know, things like the things like you know,

749
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,239
religiosity is as like a day to day significance and

750
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,719
kind of immediate conceptual terms, you know. I mean I

751
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,119
think about that stuff, but I I mean not that

752
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,480
sound likes smarter than anybody, but I I have like

753
00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:49,880
kind of a weird life. And there been times where,

754
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,400
in part like due to my own doing, I was

755
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,639
like really poor or like I I was saying difficulties

756
00:46:55,679 --> 00:47:00,480
surviving and stuff, and like you you know, generally like, uh,

757
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:03,360
that's not like an entirely bad experience. Like I made

758
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,000
that point before. I mean I don't at my age now,

759
00:47:06,119 --> 00:47:09,800
I prefer not to go through that again. But uh,

760
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,880
you know, you get it promotes like, you know, meaningful

761
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:21,119
reflection on stuff, you know, and uh you compair like

762
00:47:21,159 --> 00:47:24,320
different modes of life, you know, and so I think

763
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:29,440
that's part of it. But also Eliadi, Uh, Romania is

764
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:34,000
an interesting I mean Romania is a they're they're literally

765
00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:35,639
like a Latin culture. I mean it was like a

766
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:41,679
Roman lost battalion who basically uh, bred with you know,

767
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,760
Docians and stuff you have like Romanians and like they

768
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,599
the language they speak is closest to the Latin of

769
00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:52,000
living languages, but they're like a bit but they're like

770
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,079
they belong to Byzantium. You know, they're like very orthodox,

771
00:47:56,039 --> 00:48:02,119
so they straddle this like weird kind of civilization diad

772
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,320
and uh, I think that's part of it. You know,

773
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:15,039
that tends to prompt uh reflections and things of you know,

774
00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:18,519
like an ontological nature. But I don't know, but they

775
00:48:18,639 --> 00:48:23,119
but there's a there's a tenor of mysticism in Remedian

776
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:29,800
religiosity too, that was able to remain alive even as uh,

777
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,840
the ontological shock of modernity kind of stripped that kind

778
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,000
of thing away. That's also why, I mean, that's why

779
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,239
I've been a lot and gravitated to Afghanistan. Like people

780
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,719
make jokes, people make it jokes and stuff. I mean

781
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,199
some of I mean, it's fine. I'm not saying people

782
00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:48,079
shouldn't joke about ethnic stuff. But you know, bin Laden

783
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,480
his first destination was Sudan. You know, he funded a

784
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,920
bunch of infrastructural products projects there because he thought that

785
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,239
he was looking at replace like a pure Islam could

786
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,559
thrive and people superficially the way they come out that

787
00:48:59,679 --> 00:49:02,280
the way they come at that as Oh, well, he's

788
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,800
talking about primitive conditions or you know places where you know,

789
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,199
like a local emo, so there's a lot of cloud. No, No,

790
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,400
that's not what he was talking about. You're talking about

791
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,559
like an intuitive way of life where this kind of

792
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:19,840
awareness of pre rational things was like a part of

793
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,679
the living faith. And he had an inclusion that Sudan

794
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,239
was not that place. You know, people have Sudanese or

795
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,320
a bunch of like bombs right around in Toyota's with

796
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:34,280
like class and across and there's something, there's something, but

797
00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:37,599
uh in Afghanistan, I mean, Afghanistan is probably more primitive

798
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:41,760
than Sudan. But he's like among these past dunes, you know,

799
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,920
there's like a like true Islam can thrive if they're

800
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:49,519
like receptive to it, and you know they it's you know,

801
00:49:49,519 --> 00:49:53,119
and I them being like a warrior race, I'm sure

802
00:49:53,119 --> 00:49:57,079
has something to do with it. But you know, I'm

803
00:49:57,119 --> 00:49:59,880
not sure just sing something like Romanians or like, you know,

804
00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:05,639
their conditions are is are as primitive? Is that of passions?

805
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,360
But I'm just saying a complimentary thing of both populations,

806
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,079
you know, so that's something they consider, you know, but

807
00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:16,320
there's one of the reasons why I like religiosity and

808
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,559
the practice of it is mysterious, you know.

809
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 3: So there are a lot of people who have this, uh,

810
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,719
this romantic if you want to call it romantic notion

811
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,639
of that. The way that you know, the the United

812
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,599
States is going to be d zoged or you know,

813
00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:41,800
the globalism will be kicked from it is the country

814
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,440
is going to become one ten. It's going to be Oh,

815
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,480
they've been kicked out of one hundred and nine countries

816
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,960
and the United States is going to be the one

817
00:50:49,039 --> 00:50:51,519
hundred and tenth country that get kicked out of I

818
00:50:51,559 --> 00:50:55,000
have a tendency to believe that that's not going to happen.

819
00:50:55,519 --> 00:50:58,960
So I guess the question the question is is how

820
00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:01,800
is zog How is this occupation defeated?

821
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 4: Ultimately because uh, his historical processes, they're taking it down,

822
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:14,800
and you know, the the only strength of it is

823
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:22,360
the strength of it is the ability to manipulate sociological

824
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,960
factors and doing forced social engineering.

825
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 2: Well, that apparatusis is going away, you know. And ironically,

826
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:38,880
as true globalism sets in economically. I mean, the multilateral

827
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,800
system is dead. But that's that's a different thing. Like

828
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,320
what matters, I mean, don't get me wrong. Like that's

829
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,000
that's the one thing I like that the administration is doing.

830
00:51:49,679 --> 00:51:54,159
Is there, you know, they they've realized a workable return

831
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,920
to bilateral trade arrangement to the essential because we're running massive,

832
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:03,159
running massive deficits. That that that's catastrophic, okay. But the issue.

833
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,960
The issue isn't imports and exports as regards to globalism.

834
00:52:07,079 --> 00:52:12,800
It's uh, it's the velocity and mobility of money. And

835
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,000
that's not going away, that's here to stay. It's it's

836
00:52:16,039 --> 00:52:21,719
becoming more integrated. Okay. So anywhere on this planet, I

837
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,079
can do business and access money, and so can any

838
00:52:25,159 --> 00:52:29,119
other man Okay, unless he's like in a penitentiary or something, obviously.

839
00:52:32,639 --> 00:52:39,679
But concomonant with that, political globalism is becoming decentralized because

840
00:52:39,679 --> 00:52:46,760
there's no other choice. So free association is returning by necessity,

841
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,599
but also because it's not the political will to try

842
00:52:48,639 --> 00:52:57,719
and break it up, you know. And uh, as there's

843
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,239
a the court of global opinion truly becomes this positive.

844
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,800
People won't tolerate these imperatives anymore. It's already happening. The

845
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:12,639
entire world despises Israel. You know this idea that uh

846
00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:14,920
you know, like I said before too, like you know,

847
00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:18,079
even even policing twenty cents a policing is coming to

848
00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:22,760
an end. So it's like, okay, like moving forward over

849
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,079
the next two three centuries. I mean, it's already happening

850
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:26,679
in earnest, but I'm saying, O, yeah, this gets more

851
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,960
fully realized to go. Here's a community that's like a

852
00:53:29,039 --> 00:53:32,119
ninety percent white is like a community like Harvey. It's

853
00:53:32,159 --> 00:53:35,239
like it's like nine nine percent like black folks. You know,

854
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,679
here's like a community, you know, like like Pilson is

855
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:44,760
now where it's basically like Spanish. Ohkait, what what's gonna happen?

856
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,440
Is like the National guardgin was salt and say we

857
00:53:47,559 --> 00:53:49,920
demand you stop living this way or what you're you're

858
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,880
gonna shoot us all? Try it? How's that going to

859
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,159
work for you? How's it gonna work on? Like you're

860
00:53:56,199 --> 00:54:01,239
live streaming guys like opening up on like regular guys

861
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,599
and their wives and kids for like not having enough

862
00:54:03,639 --> 00:54:05,400
of black people live there or in the gast of

863
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,639
black folks, like not being integrated enough that's done. That's unthinkable.

864
00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:11,800
That's how.

865
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 3: I think what a lot of I think what a

866
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,519
lot of people will argue is is that whether you

867
00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:23,679
take the Kevin McDonald route about evolution you know how

868
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,920
how Jews have evolved through revolutionary processes to be so insular,

869
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,199
or you take the Michael Jones where you know they

870
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,920
denied logos and at the cross you know they've been

871
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,559
since then. I have a tendency to take a mixture

872
00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:43,920
of both. I believe both have both have validity to

873
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,440
it that as long as they're there there, as long

874
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,199
as they're amongst you, they are going to be seeking

875
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,960
to subvert. So how can you live with them?

876
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 2: Because that's not because people don't understand the reason why

877
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,360
is reach such out such intent. Hana or Runt, who

878
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:05,679
Wasger's accolyte, you know she her book The Origin of Totalitarianism,

879
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,320
is a really good book. You know, the title is

880
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:15,400
a little weird. She basically breaks down exactly like what

881
00:55:15,519 --> 00:55:19,880
Jewish power is. And you know, before before the end

882
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:25,599
of the nineteenth century, Jews had no political power. Economic

883
00:55:25,679 --> 00:55:31,679
power that's not like a small thing, but they had

884
00:55:31,679 --> 00:55:36,719
no they had no political clout. That was laughable. Suddenly

885
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,159
in the twentieth century they did, and gee, look what happened.

886
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,639
Isn't that interesting? You know? It's also too like I'm

887
00:55:44,679 --> 00:55:47,880
not saying that the people in the Pale Settlement are that,

888
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,519
you know, the Jewish minority in England in you know,

889
00:55:54,159 --> 00:55:57,719
twelve to eighty, like was doing good things in the

890
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,440
country or was benign. But the reason why people like

891
00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:02,440
Edward kicked them out was because he didn't want to

892
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,599
pay him back. It's not because he's like, I'm a

893
00:56:04,639 --> 00:56:06,719
white man and to help with these Jews who aren't

894
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,480
white and they're comedies. It was okay you guys like

895
00:56:10,519 --> 00:56:14,119
funding my war against the French, but you know, I

896
00:56:14,119 --> 00:56:16,599
don't like the fact that you're shylocking me on these

897
00:56:16,639 --> 00:56:19,440
on interest and I can't pay right now anyway, I'm

898
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,079
the king. What are you gonna do? Oh you don't

899
00:56:21,159 --> 00:56:25,079
like it? Get out those few rights you had, they're gone.

900
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,800
That's what it was. It wasn't like he was based

901
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,599
and Cromwell was like a liberal who like Jews like that.

902
00:56:32,079 --> 00:56:36,400
You can't like extrapolate current conditions back then, you know,

903
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,559
and uh where the rubber met the road, Yeah, you

904
00:56:41,679 --> 00:56:46,000
had especially like I mean pauland Ukraine, which were like

905
00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:49,320
the same territory for a long time. That was basically

906
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:54,280
like a goy of slave plantation. You know, the most

907
00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:58,079
the you know, the most enslaved populations were like North Africans,

908
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:02,639
Arabs and Slavs, you know. And so yeah, I mean

909
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,800
I'm not saying that's like a minor thing, but people

910
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,519
this idea that like the political paradigms of like the

911
00:57:10,639 --> 00:57:14,320
nineteen thirties existed in like the eleven thirties, and like

912
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,280
that's why you Jews were disliked Like that, that makes

913
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:23,599
no sense, you know, And like I said, okay, move

914
00:57:23,639 --> 00:57:27,639
forward like two hundred years where there's like not really

915
00:57:27,639 --> 00:57:29,679
a United States of America. Then kind of like in

916
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:34,760
name only, law enforcement and military power is like almost

917
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:39,719
exclusively private, you know, if you or it's like self

918
00:57:39,719 --> 00:57:46,119
help oriented. You know. There's no more public school, there's

919
00:57:46,199 --> 00:57:49,440
a the bully pulpit of media as exists in the

920
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:54,920
twentieth century is gone forever. There's no possibility of something

921
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,840
like a Cold War happening again because true globalism is

922
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,159
now centuries old. Like what what is the federal government

923
00:58:01,199 --> 00:58:03,719
gonna do with people? Like I said, they're gonna they're

924
00:58:03,719 --> 00:58:06,440
gonna get a bunch of pinkertons. So like, shoot, everybody

925
00:58:06,559 --> 00:58:10,400
who's not diverse in the community live in that's laughable,

926
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,199
you know, like it's this is coming to an end,

927
00:58:14,239 --> 00:58:18,800
and people don't understand that, and I try and tell

928
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,480
them again and again and they don't listen to me.

929
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,559
Old people do know some things. When I was like

930
00:58:24,599 --> 00:58:29,920
a teenager, like half of the places I going out regularly,

931
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,280
like nighttime or daytime, if I went there, I might

932
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,800
have gotten fucking killed. Like black people would literally like

933
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:42,880
kill me. Now that's unthinkable. Thirty years ago, Bill Clinton,

934
00:58:44,239 --> 00:58:47,639
he'd say to the DNC, like, you know, they're like

935
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:51,480
fifty years what would be one race? People like whoo, yeah,

936
00:58:52,039 --> 00:58:54,760
it's type racism. Like if a president can't say that

937
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,119
now people want to fucking lynch him. You would be

938
00:58:58,159 --> 00:59:02,000
like outraged. I mean, can you imagine that? You know?

939
00:59:02,199 --> 00:59:05,880
Now people act like you're rather corny and they roll

940
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,440
their eyes at you or they tell you're like a

941
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,840
total piece of shit. If you're like stumped for Israel,

942
00:59:11,079 --> 00:59:14,519
unless you're in like some like dumb hick town, or

943
00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:17,400
unless you're like in Skokie, Illinois, were like ninety people

944
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,639
are Jewish or something. You live on a different planet

945
00:59:20,679 --> 00:59:26,000
than thirty years ago in this regard, like it's it's

946
00:59:26,039 --> 00:59:29,960
like a different country, you know, and people act like

947
00:59:30,039 --> 00:59:33,599
this shit like somehow like a staying power. It's ridiculous.

948
00:59:36,039 --> 00:59:45,079
Speaker 3: People also think that the that this was forced upon us,

949
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:47,880
And yeah, in a way, you do have a social

950
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,360
engineering regime, but you also have to have people who

951
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,599
are willing to go along with it and also willing

952
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,480
people who are willing to collude.

953
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. I tell people this all the time.

954
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, if you're if you if you want to

955
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,800
complain about this, jew did this and in history and

956
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,039
it led to this, and it led to this and everything.

957
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: They didn't do it alone.

958
01:00:09,159 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 2: What's the heck? That's all point of parables about people

959
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,760
like Nero and Julian the Apostate. You know these guys,

960
01:00:17,159 --> 01:00:21,119
these guys were Roman patricians, you know, they they thought

961
01:00:21,159 --> 01:00:24,800
that they were gods. Basically, you know the fact that uh,

962
01:00:25,639 --> 01:00:28,880
I mean even even like Donald Trump's like that, you know,

963
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,719
like I call him like Trump episode he is a

964
01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:33,360
piece of shit. But Trump Trump doesn't care about Jews.

965
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:38,039
Trump heres about Donald Trump. Like if every you think

966
01:00:38,039 --> 01:00:41,320
of Israel, see to exist tomorrow. Trump would care, You

967
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,920
wouldn't care. You'd be like, these guys can no longer

968
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:48,599
pay me, you know, you find somebody else to pay him,

969
01:00:48,639 --> 01:00:53,000
and somebody else would you know? I mean, in some

970
01:00:53,039 --> 01:00:55,639
way you think that's worse than like being a part

971
01:00:55,679 --> 01:00:58,119
of the inferialing people, even in a warped way that's

972
01:00:58,159 --> 01:01:01,320
like against the God like zions are. But that's a

973
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:05,360
whole point, you know. And it's like also, I mean,

974
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:11,360
like I said, if you don't part of the the

975
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,639
reason why I'm writing this manuscript, I mean, it's for

976
01:01:13,679 --> 01:01:15,960
a lot of reasons because you know, like I mentioned

977
01:01:16,039 --> 01:01:18,079
you the other day, because I don't have children, which

978
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:21,760
I'm totally fine with, and I can't sing and dance,

979
01:01:22,519 --> 01:01:24,119
you know, I kind of like to leave something behind

980
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,119
my own a small way. So that's like this book

981
01:01:26,119 --> 01:01:31,239
I'm writing, and I'm trying to explain the twentieth century

982
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,079
in one value that's like not too cumbersome, is actually

983
01:01:34,079 --> 01:01:39,920
some unreadable. You've got to look at the Jewish diaspora

984
01:01:40,039 --> 01:01:41,800
like as a people, like as a as a true

985
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:43,320
nation in the ass where you got to look at

986
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,159
them as like a combatant actor in World War two,

987
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:52,199
as everybody did in the era. Frankly, and America and

988
01:01:52,239 --> 01:01:56,760
the Soviet Union allied with that actor country Europe and

989
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:02,039
the Empire Japan. Okay, then as glo as this divided

990
01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:09,039
globalism set in the Soviet Union turned on America and

991
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:14,679
this nation in diaspora, which now had representation in international law,

992
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,079
like in the state of Israel. So you're talking about

993
01:02:18,119 --> 01:02:25,000
like the winning coalition of the victorious element in the

994
01:02:25,039 --> 01:02:32,199
twentieth century. Like that's why, okay, And that's something I

995
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:39,159
try and explicate. I'm drawing things for the SEGA conceptual intelligibility.

996
01:02:40,079 --> 01:02:42,480
I'm kind of drawing this in broad strokes, but that's

997
01:02:42,519 --> 01:02:43,360
the short answer.

998
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that we I think everything. So we

999
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,000
live in a world and I think I heard you

1000
01:02:56,039 --> 01:02:59,599
say this recently. It's like people want to be like, oh,

1001
01:02:59,639 --> 01:03:02,000
I didn't know this, and I can't. I can't be

1002
01:03:02,119 --> 01:03:05,800
educated in this, even though like literally there every book

1003
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,519
in the world is in the palm of their hand

1004
01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:10,840
with the phone and they can find out anything they want.

1005
01:03:11,119 --> 01:03:16,119
And yeah, I think that the you're people are not

1006
01:03:16,199 --> 01:03:22,239
going to understand exactly what's happened until you start blaming.

1007
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,360
You don't just blame one group, you blame, you blame

1008
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:27,639
everyone who was in on this.

1009
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 2: Well, they just understand historical processes. Like I said, I

1010
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:33,719
one thing I do think of on Mesians are on too.

1011
01:03:34,639 --> 01:03:42,119
I don't accept their whole. Uh, I don't accept their practice,

1012
01:03:42,559 --> 01:03:46,760
you know, or anything. But something I write about is

1013
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:51,159
you do need some kind of intuition to interpret business cycles.

1014
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,960
I mean Stumping made that point too. That's not it's

1015
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,599
not that's not any mystical. It doesn't. I'm not any

1016
01:03:58,599 --> 01:04:02,599
reference or drawing around like all read or something. But

1017
01:04:02,679 --> 01:04:06,639
you either have that you don't. The whole is greater

1018
01:04:06,639 --> 01:04:09,039
than the sun. Its part sometimes the water, like reading

1019
01:04:09,079 --> 01:04:12,800
the discrete codable variables. It's the same thing with politics

1020
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,719
and historical phenomenon or cultural things. I mean Eliot pointing

1021
01:04:16,719 --> 01:04:20,360
into you either it's like, oh, you know, he was

1022
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:25,320
talking about shamanism and the prime symbols between very urus cultures.

1023
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,599
What commonalities are He's like, yeah, I can list variables

1024
01:04:28,599 --> 01:04:32,840
that I can identify synonymous according to some arbitrary criteria,

1025
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:38,440
you know, ideas of edification and suffering and things that

1026
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:43,079
are and feelings that are universal the human condition. But

1027
01:04:43,199 --> 01:04:46,559
they don't like tell us anything like like a sacred

1028
01:04:46,599 --> 01:04:49,880
experience and things that are symbolic of it. In psychological terms,

1029
01:04:50,039 --> 01:04:52,280
you know them when you see them, or you don't

1030
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:56,119
foresee these things, Okay, And I suppose that's what a

1031
01:04:56,239 --> 01:05:01,199
talent is for religion. A miss culttures ones that have

1032
01:05:01,239 --> 01:05:03,320
stronger and more vogative symbols of this nature or a

1033
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:10,960
stronger in that regard. Ones that don't are weaker. Okay,

1034
01:05:11,039 --> 01:05:14,320
but that's part of it. Like even people are intelligent,

1035
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,000
and I'm not like a super smart person. I don't

1036
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,880
think I'm stupid, but I'm the last person's gonna pretend

1037
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,320
like I'm some kind of like genius or like I'm

1038
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,599
so much smarter than the norm. Because I'm not. I

1039
01:05:25,639 --> 01:05:28,679
can perceive things in my field of concentration that other

1040
01:05:28,719 --> 01:05:29,320
people can't.

1041
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:30,639
Speaker 1: Okay.

1042
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,199
Speaker 2: There's guys who trade stocks, and there's guys who trade

1043
01:05:34,239 --> 01:05:39,039
for its. They can do that with financial quantities and

1044
01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:43,599
things like that and financial instruments. I can't do that

1045
01:05:43,719 --> 01:05:47,719
with that kind of stuff. I can with macroagonomics and politics.

1046
01:05:48,559 --> 01:05:52,159
And if you can't, you're tripping over your dick because

1047
01:05:52,159 --> 01:05:54,639
you're just looking at variables and treating it like some

1048
01:05:54,679 --> 01:05:59,400
sort of formal equation or something, you know, and if

1049
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,400
that was the case, you guys like Metternich or Henry

1050
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,599
Kissinger or James Baker wouldn't exist. If you were a

1051
01:06:05,719 --> 01:06:08,840
king or like a president or like a warlord, you

1052
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:10,960
just like hire a guy from M I T and'd

1053
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,679
be like, Okay, code, code, what's gonna happen? You know,

1054
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,039
what's what? What's the Soviet Union gonna do? Like code

1055
01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:17,679
these variables?

1056
01:06:17,719 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: Now?

1057
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,239
Speaker 2: Well know for certain nobody can do that because that

1058
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,159
does because that's not what it is. But somehow guys

1059
01:06:23,159 --> 01:06:25,719
like Metroanach and Kissinger and Baker like knew what was

1060
01:06:25,719 --> 01:06:29,280
going to happen. It's not as a psychic, you know.

1061
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,639
I'm not saying like I'm anywhere near guys like that obviously,

1062
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,519
but on the spectrum or scale spectrum said that if

1063
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:38,559
you were going to call me a retard, but on

1064
01:06:38,679 --> 01:06:42,280
the scale of the way my mind is wired. I

1065
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:43,440
that's where my skill set is.

1066
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:48,119
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, one are the points made here and I'm

1067
01:06:48,119 --> 01:06:51,280
just doing a bunch of Devil's advocate at this point

1068
01:06:51,559 --> 01:06:56,679
is that the monetary system allows them to go, you know,

1069
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,480
do a lot of the things that they can do

1070
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,519
that's part. Do you see that, Do you see the

1071
01:07:01,559 --> 01:07:03,639
dollar going away?

1072
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be It's not gonna just disappear, and

1073
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,519
there's not gonna be some punctuated collapse like nineteen twenty nine,

1074
01:07:10,119 --> 01:07:14,199
but that you know, wipes out the dollars of reserve

1075
01:07:14,239 --> 01:07:17,679
currency in some punctuated way, Like the dollar is gonna

1076
01:07:17,679 --> 01:07:20,400
be kind of devalued to the point where it's just

1077
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,559
in a de fact a way, even if they're still

1078
01:07:23,559 --> 01:07:26,039
gonna be incentive to maintain it through reserve currency, so

1079
01:07:26,079 --> 01:07:28,280
you can still like encourage America to do business with

1080
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,880
you in the way that America wants to, you know.

1081
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,280
And like a lot of countries, I mean, China is

1082
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,920
the most prominent, but you know, they arn't eventually peg

1083
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:41,920
their currency against the dollar, you know, so that's gonna

1084
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,519
endure for a while. But gradually, even countries that insist

1085
01:07:45,559 --> 01:07:48,079
that like the dollar is still the reserve currency, they're

1086
01:07:48,079 --> 01:07:50,079
gonna deal like what Bricks does. I'm not one of

1087
01:07:50,079 --> 01:07:52,159
these guys is like Bricks is the future because when

1088
01:07:52,159 --> 01:07:57,039
that that's the Kremlin being stupid. But uh, and coping

1089
01:07:57,159 --> 01:08:00,159
is like the youngsters see but uh, their model of

1090
01:08:00,239 --> 01:08:04,519
like maintaining like a floating basket of currencies as a

1091
01:08:05,519 --> 01:08:10,039
you know, to flesh out their reserves. That's going to

1092
01:08:10,039 --> 01:08:12,400
become the norm, you know.

1093
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, well what you know, I think what I hear

1094
01:08:16,319 --> 01:08:18,439
a lot of people say is it's like, oh, the

1095
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,039
you know, the government's doing bitcoin reserves. El Salvador has

1096
01:08:22,079 --> 01:08:25,359
bitcoin reserves. We still have gold reserves.

1097
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:30,560
Speaker 2: And but what the dollar, Like, Bitcoin's not a currency,

1098
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,840
you know what bitcoin is. There's there's nothing wrong with crypto,

1099
01:08:33,159 --> 01:08:37,279
but it's not a currency. It's a non traditional bond

1100
01:08:37,319 --> 01:08:40,680
and it's a way of banking without being availed to

1101
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:46,159
the enforcement mechanism and control and possible seizure of federal authorities.

1102
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,359
Like you don't have a currency when the only store

1103
01:08:49,399 --> 01:08:51,840
and value when your currency is pegged to the dollar.

1104
01:08:54,239 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I made that point about that. I made

1105
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:58,359
that point about gold.

1106
01:08:58,399 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 3: It's like anything that you're trying to you identify as

1107
01:09:02,039 --> 01:09:06,800
a potential m one currency so that you can, you know,

1108
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:10,039
stop fractional reserve banking. That's not what stops fractional or

1109
01:09:10,039 --> 01:09:13,039
reserve banking. What stops fractional or reserve banking is people

1110
01:09:13,399 --> 01:09:20,800
in charge who don't want to fractionally reserve the.

1111
01:09:19,079 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 2: Banking also something insidious thing in of itself, Like that's

1112
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:26,640
antiquated thinking, you know, like what's the alternative we should have,

1113
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:30,239
like an Islamic banking system where you're basically like when

1114
01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:31,880
you take out a loan from a bank, you're basically

1115
01:09:32,039 --> 01:09:35,920
lend them stock, and you know you're selling them like

1116
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,720
perennial stock, like beyond the scope of their investment. I

1117
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:44,560
mean like lending it, lending it interest in a way

1118
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:49,159
that's not usurious. That that's that's what fuels business and innovation.

1119
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:53,119
That's not like evil somehow. But the same people too,

1120
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,119
like the people equate like banking is evil with the

1121
01:09:56,119 --> 01:10:00,520
same people claim like gold is is a is somehow

1122
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:04,880
like immune to interest rate manipulation. Gold is literally a

1123
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:09,239
shiny rock, like shiny rocks aren't real, and like bearer

1124
01:10:09,279 --> 01:10:12,439
papers not fake, Like how's like a shiny rock real?

1125
01:10:14,399 --> 01:10:17,640
You know, Like I think gold is cool. I like

1126
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,279
to see stuff meat out of it. It's nice to

1127
01:10:20,319 --> 01:10:23,520
give you your girlfriend or something. I'm not anti gold,

1128
01:10:24,119 --> 01:10:28,640
but it's a shiny rock. I mean that's what it is.

1129
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,079
Speaker 3: All Right, I'm gonna get us out of here. Let

1130
01:10:32,119 --> 01:10:35,199
me just read a couple of super chats here. Uh

1131
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:39,600
ex coboron Rumble says, and I don't believe this for

1132
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:40,239
one second.

1133
01:10:40,359 --> 01:10:42,399
Speaker 1: I mean I believe the second part. I don't believe

1134
01:10:42,399 --> 01:10:42,960
the first part.

1135
01:10:43,359 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 3: Says I've never met a Jew, but I did shake

1136
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,279
George Bush's hand when I was ten in two thousand,

1137
01:10:48,399 --> 01:10:50,560
in the year two thousand, so close enough.

1138
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:51,560
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

1139
01:10:54,479 --> 01:11:00,399
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, right, yeah, Sully the amount like kite

1140
01:11:00,399 --> 01:11:04,399
subscribe for five, thank you, Carl Yen, says Pete. Did

1141
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,920
you ever see any gigs at the Brass Mug in Tampa?

1142
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,479
I saw some great bands back then. Yeah, that was

1143
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,319
like the freakin' There was a lot of punk stuff

1144
01:11:12,319 --> 01:11:15,159
there and hardcore stuff, and like at that time when

1145
01:11:15,159 --> 01:11:17,960
I was in Tampa, I just wasn't into it. I've

1146
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:21,439
been to the Mouse Down there too, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1147
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,319
and that was that was kind of blowing up when

1148
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:26,720
when I was there too, But yeah, I was more

1149
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,880
into like the there was like a big goth glam

1150
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,960
scene there and everything, and that was like most of

1151
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,239
my friends that I was hanging out with were like

1152
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:40,760
into goth clam and everything. So yeah, Sully the Malki,

1153
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,199
says Pete did reading the last crusade have anything to

1154
01:11:43,279 --> 01:11:46,199
do with you getting back to your Catholic roots. Understand

1155
01:11:46,239 --> 01:11:49,880
you likely were on your way, but wow, Carol's Carol's

1156
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:54,800
work really pulls me that way too. For a bunch

1157
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,920
of years, like I was just getting put in, like

1158
01:11:59,279 --> 01:12:03,720
Catholic heart core Catholics were getting put into, like my

1159
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:07,039
friends were, like everyone that I was coming into contact

1160
01:12:07,039 --> 01:12:07,359
with was.

1161
01:12:07,319 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: A hardcore Catholic and everything.

1162
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,600
Speaker 3: And then I guess what cinched it was when I

1163
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:16,399
moved to this little town in East Alabama that has,

1164
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:21,199
you know, more like one hundred times more chickens than people,

1165
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:25,279
and there's this little Catholic parish in this town, and

1166
01:12:25,319 --> 01:12:27,600
I'm just like, oh, let me go visit that and everything.

1167
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,600
And that's what That's basically what pulled me back in

1168
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and got me for some of my first confession in decades,

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which was a lot of fun. And then all right,

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and our buddy Kreig says, always great to see Pete

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and Thomas on a Sunday night stream after workg Creek.

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Speaker 1: Coming in from Austria. That's awesome. But all right, man,

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I'm gonna let you go. I I appreciate you joining

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me for this stream and I appreciate everybody. You know.

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I was, I was reading the comments, you know, and

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and I just wasn't responding to him because I thought

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this was a conversation that needed to be had at

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this time. So I want to thank Thomas for joining

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me once again. And yeah man. Oh and by the way, everyone,

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in about an hour and fifteen minutes, the next episode

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with Thomas comes out. It's part four of the Radical

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Traditionalist School where Thomas talks about Marciliati and Julius Evila. Yeah,

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so tune in. Thank you, Thomas, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, man.