Speaker 1: Welcome to the three Stories version of The Todd Herman Show.
Story number one, Anna Delvi Sarokin got what Nancy Pelosi,
Mitch McConnell in half of Wall Street deserve, Story number
two A fascinating time with Nick Flentes's followers. And story
number three Kirk Cameron's defenders claim hell is temporary. We'll
talk about this with the help of God Almighty.
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Free America. Here's the Emerald City exile.
Speaker 1: Todd Herman. Today is the day the Lord has made
in These are the times to which God has decided
we shall live. My wife and I watched a pretty
fascinating and dark and at the end bit's frustrating a
program on Netflix called Inventing Anna, and it's about a
young woman named Anna Sorokin who went by the name
Anna Delvi when she was in the business of well
conning people. And in watching this I could not get
away from the fact that while what she did is awful,
the punishment she received is far more then far more
awful crimes and the people who commit them that have
gone on for thirty years in plain sight of everybody watching.
And yet there's no Netflix documentary about that. So Anna
is not, I think, an easy person to watch. The
real adis Rotkin comes across to me as completely unlikable,
and yet she has to be able to do something
because she was able to con a lot of people.
Sixty Minutes Australia looked at this. They looked at cons
across the board. Sixty Minutes looked into Anna. They talked
to her people's stupidity.
Speaker 3: Do you feel bad about some of the people that
got burnt along the way?
Speaker 4: Can you name me the names of the people and
I'll tell you if I feel bad about them.
Speaker 3: It's not easy interviewing a skilled charlatan. You'ving described as
a con woman, very good con artist.
Speaker 5: I don't see as up as such.
Speaker 3: You don't think you've conned anybody?
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: Anna's scam was breathtakingly simple. She pretended to be the
daughter of a German billionaire about to strike it rich
with an imminent inheritance. Her lie was so convincing, New
York society welcomed her with open arms. In turn, she
fleeced them upmarket hotels and restaurants, even various Manhattan banks,
out of hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Speaker 5: It's like, I had no idea what was going on,
So just like I kind of like.
Speaker 3: Did thanks, So you weren't that calculated.
Speaker 5: No, I don't.
Speaker 4: See myself exactly as a latter climber. Now.
Speaker 5: I was just kind of doing whatever I wanted at the.
Speaker 1: Time kind of. And yeah, it was hundreds of thousands
of dollars. And it pales in comparison to frauds that
go on in a country on a consistent basis, and
those frauds are sometimes absolutely huge. I'll shoe a little
bit more of Anna, then we'll go through some actual
punishment that people perceived, and you can compare it for
yourself to Anna. There's no frauds or frauds stir Like
Tony Fauci, for instance, the highest paid Pheder government employee ever,
is now retired on a pension that would be one
of the highest, if not the highest ever. Since he
was the highest paid. That doesn't begin to count the
money he received in terms of profit sharing with pharmaceutical
companies while he was at the National Institute of Health.
And that's undisclosed. It doesn't begin to compare to what
he's received from movie rights and book rights and speaking rights,
et cetera, ad nauseam. And yet it was not Sixty
Minutes or HBO or any of the big so called
film studios that released a movie about him. It's Angel
Angel Studios. The movie is called Thank You, Doctor Fauci,
and it comes to some extraordinary and very believable conclusions
after a great deal of research and exclusive interviews you
will never see anywhere else. When you watch this, you're
gonna come away with some knowledge you may not want
to have, but I think it's important that you do have,
because they intend to do these things again. You can
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demand accountability. Angel dot com slash herman. So this is
an exclusive interview with Anna Delvy her real name Soroken,
and she's kind of talking about what happened in her life.
You'll notice a very different look. This woman can put
on looks and take off looks like those of us
who are just normal people take off shoes.
Speaker 4: Well, it was like a gradual process, like a lot
of it is so like nothing. There's no single event
that just happened overnight. It's always like one thing led
to another, and I was just like trying to make
it happen. And I was not completely off. When you
see what happened to the building, to anyone background in
you south, now.
Speaker 1: That was this thing that she wanted to build. She
was going around trying to raise money for a non
existent business, a foundation. Everyone who is being involved in
the foundation believed that she was going to be getting
sixty million dollars. So they wanted to get in early
on this. And you're talking about the cream of New
York's architecture community, banking community, legal community, chef community. She
had them all lined up and she'd even gotten them
to this position where they were going to purchase that
building for her. So when she's saying it's not far off,
that's what that means.
Speaker 4: But it's pretty much a very similar concept of been
trying to create and they made it happen and it
was successful. So it's like nobody can say I was
just like trying to like run some fraud because it's
like the proof is right there. So the way they
define like fraud is the mindset if your intention was
to permanently deprive somebody of funds of property, and that
was just never my intention, and nobody can tell me
what my intentions were. It's like, if I had a chance,
like everybody would have been paid back and everybody would
have been my whole. I'm not trying to like make
excuses for the bad decisions I'm made in the past,
but it's like it was a viable.
Speaker 1: Project and it was yeah when it's back for sixty
million bucks and not just their seed capital, and that
core fraud was the fraud she's pretended to have sixty
million bucks. Keep that number in mind. Keep that number
in mind. So she spent about three years and four
months in state prison for the criminal conviction. She was
sentenced to four to twelve years in state prison, but
she was a release stump roll for good behavior. She
wears an ankle bracelet to this day. Rightly, she lives
now in a luxury building where Elon Musk's one of
his so called baby mama's lives. So after she was
released in twenty twenty one. She was detained by ICE
for overstaying her visa, about eighteen to twenty months in
immigration detention until October twenty twenty two. All Right, so
she pretended she was going to get sixty million dollars.
Our nation pretends to have money. We are three hundred
and thirty trillion dollars in debt in real terms, if
you talk about unfunded liabilities, promises we've made to pay pensions,
et cetera, O, bomb care, stuff, solid security, medicare, Medicaid,
retirement of federal government workers. Three hundred and thirty trillion dollars. Now,
some of that we could cut. But our government goes
around pretending our debt is thirty trillion, just wiping out
all these liabilities. That's fraud. One. Anna was pretending she
was going to get sixty million bucks. She goes to prison.
I asked GROC what is the longest prison sentence for
a stock trader in the United States for not paying debts?
The longest known prison sentence served by a stock trader
in the United States, specifically for not paying debts. Refused
to comply with the court order to turn of her
assets to satisfy financial obligations is seven years held by
Martin A. Armstrong. Armstrong is a former commodities and currency
trader and founder of Princeton Economic International. Was incarcerated from
January two thousand to April two thousand and seven on
civil contempt charges contempt of court for refusing to turn
a millions of dollars in gold bars, coins, rare antiquities
that a federal court ordered him to produce connection with
the civil securities fraud lawsuit brought by the US Securities
and Exchange Commission and Commodity Futures Trading Commission. The contempt
incarceration was coercive, intended to compel compliance with the asset turnover,
rather than as punishment for a crime. The seven year
period remains one of the longest federal contempts incarcerations on
record for a financial matter. Armstrong was released in two
thousand and seven after a judge determined further detention no
longer served a coersive purpose. He then began serving a
five year a sentence a separate five year criminal sentence
for securities fraud to which the contempt time did not count.
So he was a legitimate trader who legitimately took money
from people. His sentence is a little bit more, maybe
twice of what Annas was. I asked this, what is
the longest prison sentence served as a result of the
two thousand and eight housing crisis crash? The longest prison
sent in some posed as a direct result of frauden
activities tied to the two thousand and eight market crash
and subprime mortgage crisis is thirty years given to Lee
Bluntley Farcas in two thousand and one. Farcas, former chairman
of the Taylor, Bean and Whittaker TVW, one of the
largest independent mortgage lenders in the US at the time,
orchestrated a two point nine billion dollar fraud scheme. This
involved selling fake or duplicate mortgages, fabricating documents, and manipulating
records to cover massive shortfalls. The scheme contributed to the
collapse of TVW in two thousand and nine and the
failure of Colonial Bank, one of the largest US bank
failures during the crisis. He was also convicted on fourteen counts,
including bank fraud, wire fraud, securities to fraud, conspiracy. Although
granted compassionate release in twenty twenty due to COVID nineteen
risks after serving nine years two point nine billion dollars
nine years, and is going to serve half that, if
not more. I asked a question about Congress. That Congress
that pretends our debt is thirty trillion bucks, which it's
threeer than thirty trillion. That Congress, which allows insider trading
on a multi time, per day basis. Nancy Pelosi, Others, McConnell,
the net Worths exploding. Everybody sees it. There are entire
stock picking devices that do nothing but track Nancy Pelosi's
trades and allow you to become a remorra fish on
her trades. And it works, the Nancy Pelosi stock picker,
for instance. You have Wall Street apes, you have unusual
whales tracking these things, and they document inside trading on
a minute by minute basis. That fraud is never going
to be punished. It used to be illegal, then they
legalized it again and Anna Soroken went to prison. I
asked the question about the longest prison sentence informed on
a former member of Congress, and it was went to
William rush Limb. I used to call him William Coldcash.
Jefferson twenty nineteen Jefferson was convicted on eleven counts, including bribery, racketeering,
and money laundering. The charges stem from schemes in which
he used as congressional influence to promote business ventures in
Africa and exchange for bribes, including the infantous discovery of
ninety thousand dollars in marked cash hidden in his freezer
during an FBI raid some other instances. Randy Duke Cunningham,
Republican from California received eight years and four months, served
only seven years for accepting two point four million of
bribes from the defense contractors. That's about what Anna will
have spent when you take the immigration stuff into account.
James traffickent Democrat from Ohio eight years, served seven years
for bribery, racketeering and tax evasion. Shaka Feta, Democrat from Pennsylvania,
and Stephen Stockman, republic from Texas each received tenures for
corruption and fraud schemes, again not far off from what
Anna received, But nowhere in there is their punishment for
Nancy Pelosi, her insider trade Dan Crenshaw, who to this
day pretends he doesn't even have stocks, Mitch McConnell and
his nearly billion dollar net worth. None of this is
to defense. What Anna Shrukin did is to ask, do
we expect people to ignore circumstances like this when you
have at the very tip top the biggest consistent sin
of all Congress Senate powerholders. It's lording the power of others.
In the so called secular world, we call it picking
winners and losers. God reminds them to who much has
been given, much is expected. In that way, My defense
for optimism is this, they've already faced judgment. You shall
not steal. Story number two A fascinating time with Nick
Fuente's followers. I made a commitment last week because we
did a video. My producer out and I and Alex
came on set and we were not reviewing Nick Fronte's
work at the time. As I said, and Alex confessed,
neither of us had ever spent any time watching Nick founts.
We'd seen curated clips and almost always, of course the
worst of because there's people who post those things, and
Fronts is aware of that. So we did this piece
in terms of how older men are trying to understand
Froonte's followers and trying to speak into their lives, and
it was interpreted by a bunch of fans of Nick
as us going and critiquing Nick Frontes and they were
really frustrated. How dare you critique Nick when you guys
admit you've never seen a front Ace episode? And it
was I mean, in one hand, it's a misunderstanding. On
your hand, I can get it. They're ultra sensitive about
this guy because to them, he's a guy who has
survived the biggest attempt in the world to cancel him.
I watched at the he has to have a guy
who goes by epic fail productions on YouTube. He and
I had a conversation in the comment section, and I
had a ton of conversations with a bunch of Nick
Flinte's fans and followers over this weekend, and it was
very illuminating. One of the things he challenged me to
do was to watch a two hour interview. It's a
two plus hours interview and it was done by a
guy who's who's named Jack Neil, and Jack Neil himself
has almost six million subs on YouTube, which is a
pretty big number. And they sat in a warehouse and
they talked and I listened and watched, and my wife
was in the room for some of this, and some
of the things I learned about front is this that
he is brutally smart. He has a great memory of history,
he's an award winning debater, and he has the crisp
mind of a young guy who can draw up facts
and dates, et cetera. But there is a thin line
that worries me. And that thin line has to do
with race, which is something that Nick talked about and
in a way sort of talked around. My primary concern
in doing all of this is I feel a burden
to talk with young men about being in the world
and not of it. And on the topic of being
in the world and not of it, there's something I
want to address right off the bat, which is Nick
Fouinte says he's a Catholic, race Catholic continues to be
a Christian, So there's something I want to say about that.
In a second, then i'll talk to you about some
of the things I learned in talking to Fonte's followers,
and it's something I want to do more of. I
want to hear more from them, and I encourage every
man my age. If you have a Nick Foynte's follower
in your circle, sit and watch the shows with them,
hear them describe why he appeals to them, because their
souls are in the balance and our nation is in
the balance, and they are going to lead. And some
of the things they want to do in leading include
the phrase flip the board to what they don't care.
They've watched a nation that used to have stability and
promise become a nation that is being made unstable. And
I think it's on purpose, and they think it's on purpose.
Well I won't say they, but many of them think
it's on purpose, and it's being done behind the cloak
of racism. Because if we don't allow every person who
has any desire to come into America at all, even
if they hate our values, hate our system, hate our constitution,
or come and pretend we don't have our own heritage,
if we allow that to continue, they're going to allow
They're going to see the stabilization continue. I don't think
they know there's sneaking stability, but the playing board that
they've been on, that we're told when they were little kids,
here's the playing board. The plankboards shifting and they destabilizing.
There's pieces of the playing board that are falling apart.
It used to be that if you moved your little
man on the playing board this way, high school, community college, college,
plant house, whoop, that part of the board's gone. That
house part that's gone, that college part. Now unless you
are a female that now make up the majority of
college graduates in college and high schools now designed for females,
boom that drops through the board. And if you're a
young man who has any testosterone and you want to
do anything testosterone heavy or express yourself in that way
at all, that part of the board's now gone. So
you had this game board that was predictable and stable.
You had family, you had church, you had a government
that enabled freedom, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. It wasn't
as it wasn't as obsessed with lording their power over others,
which is ungodly. So they have this playing board, and
now there's all the holes in the playing board, and
sometimes young men fall through one of those holes, and
that hole might be being labeled a racist. It might be,
And that's happened the young men kicked out of school.
Front Dase was banned across platforms for things he said,
and Front days get the things he says. This is
not a dumb man. Nick is a very very smart individual.
You'll get that if you watch this thing we've linked
to in the show notes. But there's something vitally important
that I want to speak into this in terms of
being Christian, and we'll go through some of the things
I learned from these young men, because there was a lot.
One of the things I've learned in my life is
young men are not wrong when they say that the
game in America is rigged. They're not wrong. I have
a friend of mine who is right now fighting for
his life, and he is facing an American healthcare system
that's telling him this. Yes, we told you you need
to have an aordal valve replacement, and you have about
thirty days to live because you could die in thirty
days if you don't get this replaced. Okay, well, let's
get a surgery scheduled, right. We'll do that right after
you get a dental appointment. And yes, believe or not,
your mouth health is tied to heart health. That's true. Okay,
so go go get the dental appointment. Dentist says, yeah,
I'll do that right after you solve your sciatic pain.
Because I'm not going to do this operation in your mouth,
this procedure until the sciatic pain is solved. Well what
if the siatic pains not solved, Well, I mean now
you've got twenty five days. See it's extraordinary to me
that in the persons of Renewed Healthcare and port of
Art to Mexico, we've saved three lives people put down
for stem cell treatment and they ended up having an
advanced heart screening. It beats EKGs to death. And this
has happened three times that people have been down for
getting stem cells. In one case, it was a lady
with her husband. She didn't even tend to get the
stem cells, but she paid for the heart screening and
turned out she needed to have heart surgery the next day.
Two other people, two other people, same story, and in Mexico,
guess what, they can get you into world class hospital
the very next day. Stem cells solve things like a
rectile dysfunction. They solve things like keeping out of surgery.
They can help replace bone and bone cartilage, muscle, tendon.
But only the stem cells in part of our renew
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That's renewed R E and U E dot healthcare. Tell
them you're part of the Todd Hermannshaw family and unrig
your healthcare. So part and parcel of Flantase approach. And
a lot of these young men is there Christian to
a degree, because a lot of Christianity has been stolen.
So I want to start with something very very important.
In the body of Christ, there's neither Greek nor Jew
servant nor master doesn't exist. So among Christians we are
not to see each other in race. And if you
want to double down on that, how about this regard
no one in the flesh or to think of people
as spiritual entities, because we are because we're headed for
an eternal future. So I worry about the souls of
young men because Nick Flantes expresses himself as a race separatist,
that we should be allowed to live among our own race.
And to the degree that you can do that in
a legal sense, okay, front taste makes and he understands
policy very well. He says, Look, if you try to
do that and you have a neighborhood that's too white,
the federal government will come in and use Section eight
housing dollars to make sure it un whites and forcing
that change that for sort of large scale change on
neighborhoods and cities and creating these bulkanized areas. It's going
to create conflict rather than organically flowing people. Some people
choose to live in the suburbs, some people choose to
live in the cities. But these young men are being
told you can't, but black people can. You can't, but
Somolias Simoonians can take over parts of Minneapolis. Muslims can
take over a city in America, but you can't. And
this is going to breed more frustration and more more
more momentum behind fronts who will speak of these things.
Matt van Swall is a really good commentator. He's a
former NASA guy. There's great content, particularly around the flooding, etc.
A big defender of what went on in West Virginia,
people trying to help themselves and the assault the Phedergrunment
had there. He wrote this, if I'm being perfectly honest,
I think I'm beginning to lose interests in the will
to be tolerant Elon Musk If tolerance means the end
of Western civilization, then we cannot be tolerant. That's very binary.
We are to be tolerant because tolerance is a sign
of Christian love, of how Christ defines love. We're therefore
to be tolerant. But that does not mean that we
do not enforce our laws, because just as we're to
be tolerant, other Christians are to be tolerant. And we're
a nation built upon law and order. God is a
god of law and order, not chaos. So again these
young men from the perspective of Fronte saying, we used
to have laws that if you broke into our country,
you were punished then sent home. You weren't lionized in
Trinity heroes. We used to have laws that if you
were arrested ten times, you went to prison for a
long while. Now we have people with their seventy ninth
arrest going out and committing hainous crimes. And it's very
easy in social media to point to crimes that are
racially motivated. Think of all the things that's happened on
subways and the words the assailant spoke before they took
lives racially motivated. So through the eyes of Fonte's followers.
We used to have these things where they go You Boomers,
you had that, eugen Xers, you had that. But you're
leaving us with this. And if it's not violence, just
look at something else. The disgraced former president of Harvard,
Claudine Gay, is back to giving speeches and she's talking
about what the Trump administration is supposedly doing to not
the institutions, but there's something you can gain on your own.
Speaker 6: The agenda here is about destroying knowledge institutions because they
are centers of independent thought and information. That's what's going
on here. That is the story. Nothing justifies that, Nothing
explains that other than authoritarians don't like independent centers of
thought and information.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good thing that There are no Christian schools that
do that that are actually more independent. So Harvard's the
place of independent thought, that thought. It was so important
that black men make up a huge percentage of students
in comparison to who would actually get in that they
took the game board. It used to be SAT scores.
This is what counts to get into college. You get
a great SAT score, you do some extracurricular things, you
can be considered for a place like Harvard and then
Harvard went law and they cut some pieces out of
the game board. Well, if you're an Asian male, no,
that part of the game board's gone. Push. If you're
a white male, boom, that part of the game board's gone. So,
whether there were these mountains on the game board or
this thin little police you had to go through in
the game board that was difficult to get through. You
had to roll a six or something to get through. Well,
unless you're black, in that case you can roll. You
can roll two through six and get in. But if
you're roll a one, you need to roll again. And
that's what they did. And these people who are following
front Taste, they're not short on facts because Flint Taste
is a huge source of facts, encyclopedic memory. And this
is just from a two and a half hour interview,
but Clouding Gay mentions the Independent thought. Okay, here's what
the Independent thinkers told us. The Black Lives Matter Incorporated
movement was an organic movement of black people who suddenly
came together out of a great sense of frustration for
their country and because they wanted social justice. Here's what
we knew from the very beginning. They were trained Marxists,
set out to destroy the United States of America and
they were helped along from the Oval Office in Brack
Hussein Obama. And now we see this, a Black Lives
Matter leader has been indicted on dozens of federal fraud charges.
This is not the first time to Sheela Dickerson. This
is from Life Site News. A leader in the Marxist
anti family Black Lives Matter movement is facing dozens of
federal criminal charges. And we're talking here about this woman,
Tashella Sherry Amore Dickerson, fifty two, was indicted on about
three point one point five million dollars in fraud, raising
money and keeping it for herself as a trained Marxist.
Looking at this from the perspective of Front's followers, but Nicks,
the one who's getting deplatformed, clotting gay is giving speeches.
Story number three. Kirk Cameron's defenders claim hell is temporary.
You know, last week we did a video responding to
something Kirk Cameron said and he was talking with his
son and I don't think this is a salvation issue.
I don't think for two seconds that Kurt's going to
hell because he thinks hell is temporary. Cameron recognizes Jesus
Christ as the Lord and Savior. No one gets to
heaven but through him, he's one God, part of a
triune godhead. He recognizes one baptism as a significant sign
that you've surrendered to Christ. He talks about the need
to abide with Christ to allow the Holy Spirit to change.
Is clearly he's in the business of making disciples, as
we're all ordered to do. Go and make disciples of
all nations, baptizing them and teaching them to obey, and
baptizing the name of the Father's Son and the Holy ghosts,
and teaching them to obey all that Christ is commanded.
So clearly he's doing these things. He's not confused on
the topic of sexuality or same sex act activity, or
formication or adultery, none of those things. So I don't
think this is the salvation issue, but I think it's
a pretty big issue. And it's interesting to watch his
followers come or supporters come to his aid on YouTube,
and some of them are really interesting challenges the idea
that Hell is forever. So here's what Kirk Cameron said.
Then we'll get to somewhat of the people. Some of
the people who responded in support of Cameron said get
down to it. Yeah, what's your opinion on this?
Speaker 7: So my position as it stands today, and again, the
beauty of this is that we're always learning and growing, right,
So I'm open to new light. If you guys have
a position that you can share with me, I will
gladly change my mind. I used to hold the position
of conscious eternal torment because that's just what I was
taught by people that I love and trust. I've learned
that there are other positions, and a very robust argument
can be made for conditionalism or annihilationism, as Edward Fudge
posits here, and it it fits the character of God
in my understanding more than the conscious eternal torment position,
because it brings in the mercy of God together with
the justice of God. It doesn't leave judgment out.
Speaker 2: It is just.
Speaker 7: But it also fits with the Old Testament picture of
the fate of the wicked, which is to be destroyed.
It is to die, and it is to perish, not
live forever in an eternal barbecue. And the classic verses
that used to get me into eternal torment. You know,
the punishment, everlasting punishment, everlasting destruction fits beautifully with a destruction, punishment,
judgment that is irreversible and lasts forever. That is the
eternalness of that punishment and that destruction. So that's where
I am today.
Speaker 1: Okay, on a big picture, Does disappearing punish you? Is
not being aware of anything because you don't exist. Are
you being punished eternally? No, you've been freed from punishment.
You don't exist, so you don't have joy, you don't
get to walk with the Lord. But you don't know
that because you're not there and you'll never be there again.
I fail to see that as punishment. So we'll get
to some of these things that his defenders said here
in just a second. You know, people would look sometimes
at in the followers of Christ and even look at
people who were disabled, and they would say, Lord, you know, Rabbi,
who's sinned this this person or their parents that they're
in this condition. And Jesus taught that look, wait, wait, wait,
neither of their parents sinned. This is done for the
glory of God and the testing of mercy, for the
opportunity for you to extend mercy and kindness for the
poor disabled and paraphrase, and will always be here with us.
So we have a decision as a society how to
do this, and on a very personal basis, my friend John,
who runs Alan Soaps for his kids for the time being.
Because John is going to the Eternal Reward of Christ
sometime next year spring, probably summer, John will breathe his last.
He's passing on the company to his wife, teaching her
and I run it. Alan Soaps proves that there are
people who are disabled, like Allan who is effectively nonverbal.
His brother Ian impacted by autism as well. Differently, Alan
effectively well, he's been through eighteen operations. He's fourteen. So
now the soap company is not about sympathy. It's not
a charity. It's a company found that on selling you
the best soap in the world, made in the Midwest
by a family of three generations of soap making expertise,
made with fragrances. You can only get there with the
purpose of selling you the best soap in the world.
So they can employ their sons, that's the point, and
not just their sons. Before this terrible news about John,
we were employing other people. So we have a decision
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This comes from mister gross mister gross ism a YouTube nickname.
God specifically kicks Adam and Eve out of the garden
to keep them from eating of the Tree of life
and living forever, And then a million other later, Jesus arrives,
offering the gift of eternal life to anyone who believe. So,
how do you conclude that humans are born immortal? Well,
there's a lot there. Well let's start with this. No,
God did not prevent them from eating of the Tree
of the Knowledge of Good and evil. For Eve was
deceived by the serpent first ate and then gave him
to Adam, who had failed to properly lead his wife.
And in that way, that's why when the Lord came
and sought them out, he sought out Adam. He didn't
seek out Eve, because Adam had been called to lead
his wife and he'd failed. And no, that tree did
not offer living forever. It was the Tree of the
Knowledge of good and evil, and that promise was carried
out because Adnom and Eve had never encountered evil, but
they did. And how do I say they were eternal
because the first time they ever heard of death was
God said, surely you will die. They never experienced it,
but when they left the garden, they had because we
had the first death, the first animal sacrifice. God sacrificed
animals to give them fur to wear, complete with the
smell of blood, for the first time in human history.
They were eternal because God did not introduce death until
they decided to defy God. The Bible, by the way,
begins in a garden and ends in the garden a
garden Curtis Cooper, five, nine ninety four. The New Testament
things have changed thanks to Jesus. True death is separation
from God. Jesus Christ has abolished death two Timothy one,
verse ten. When we physically die, were no longer are
separated from God in heaven. When we physically die, we
will be in the presence of the Lord. We will
be judge Hebrews nine twenty seven. This applies to everyone,
the righteous and the unrighteous. Everyone. There's no longer a
waiting place in which the righteous and unrighteous weight on judgment.
Judgment is immediate. Hell was the waiting place. It was
as death has cast been cast into the lake of fire.
Revelation twenty verse fourteen two Timothy, verse chapter one, verse ten.
This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, the revealing what
he did, absent from the body present with the Lord.
That is the new Testament, and that applies to everybody.
So my hearing you say everybody will be saved, why abide?
Why not partake? If everything the world has to offer?
I wrote back, I David. Second, Thessalonians one through nine,
where Paul talks about eternal destruction is pretty clear and
isn't a parable more so Matthew twenty four twenty five,
verse forty six, when Jesus said, and these will go
away into internal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life
seems unequivocal to me. If we're all saved, why bother
abiding with Christ? Why not go after all the world
has to offer? David music Maker, Amen, Yes, all will
be saved. It's all over the scriptures. But most people
are blind to this truth. And again I go back
and offer him the same verses in the same question,
why bother abiding? If we're all going to be saved.
And why would God make the same deal he did
last time we had heaven on earth, we walked with God,
we decided to defy God and go our own way.
Why would God say I want the new Heaven and
the new Earth to be the same as the old
Heaven and the old Earth, with the same mistakes and
the same rogue behavior, defiant behavior. He says right out front,
that's not going to happen, because only through Christ do
we obtain the Father. Jesus Christ said, I'm the Way,
the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the
Father but through me. Okay, how do we do that
by obeying all he commanded? And that includes making disciples.
This is from Dennis Reader three one one zero. I'm
providing a comment of support for Kirk Cameron. The doctrine
of hell is a place of eternal torment is a
horrendous distortion of scripture fostered by the sixteenth century Catholic
Church to terrorizing Coer's people into buying their church indulgences.
It distorts the symbolic language used in Matthew twenty five
and Revelation twenty to list a couple and removes from
the context of the larger body of scripture, which identifies
God as both just and merciful. To position God as
an eternal tormentor is quite an abomination. It presents him
as using coercion to achieve compliance. This is a totally
one hundred and eighty degree departure from our Father's true nature.
To quote C. S. Lewis, God cannot ravish, He can
only woo his books, screw tape letters, letter eight. Okay,
I love C. S. Lewis. It's not scripture. The scripture
of Psalm thirty seven one through twenty second, Peter two six, Zephaniah,
Jude seven. There's just a few that speak of a
nihilistic nature of the wicked. They vanish like smoke, They
become like Sodom and gomore, burn to ashes and become
a wasteline. It's time for the Church to come out
of the dark ages. The Catholic Church became very, very corrupt. True,
they did sell indulgences, true massive sin, massive false teaching.
I'm sure that unless they repented, there was eternal punishment
for that. But notice something where you're pretending to call
Matthew twenty five and Revelation twenty you're saying that this
is just symbolic language. But then you go on and
take a phrase like vanish, like smoke burn to ashes
as non symbolic. Let's play your game. It's non symbolic.
When smoke vanishes, the particles disappear. No, they become so
diffuse we can't see them any longer. When you burn
something to ashes, that matter is gone, right, it's changed.
Does ice in a warm room disappear? No, Ice in
a warm room becomes water. On a hot continer, it
becomes steam. So often to play your game on this
even there, the very scripture you're quoting as non imagery
backs up the point of view that the matter is
still there a wasteland. It's still a land. It just
doesn't bear any fruit. Kirk Cameron is not I think
flirting with hell. I worry that when you start to
depart the Word of God because it hurts your feelings
or it's hard to imagine loved ones who never came
to Christ being in hell forever. I think it's a
relatively short walk to some other things making you uncomfortable
in scripture. Scripture should make us uncomfortable because it's the
word of God and Being a Christian is not easy.
This is the Todd Herman Show. Please go, be well,
be strong, be kind, and please make every effort to
walk in the light of Christ.