Speaker 1: It is The Ben and Skin Show, ninety seven point
Speaker 1: one The Eagle. We're gonna move sports to the bottom
Speaker 1: of the hour here coming up in about fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: or so.
Speaker 2: But Katie, let's keep music news going. What you got
Speaker 2: over there.
Speaker 3: So this was this report on Friday, and I know
Speaker 3: that we're on the Eagle, so a lot of people
Speaker 3: probably don't care, but I.
Speaker 2: Do think it's interesting in terms of music.
Speaker 3: All Right, Taylor Swift is getting her best, just get
Speaker 3: her master's back from her first five or six albums.
Speaker 1: Okay, So just so people know, what masters refer to
Speaker 1: is the original recordings, and why that should matter to
Speaker 1: you is like you can think of a cover song
Speaker 1: that's a new master recording. You can go re record
Speaker 1: a song any number of times and create quote unquote
Speaker 1: new masters. But when a record company releases something, they
Speaker 1: release recordings that they refer to as the master recordings.
Speaker 3: Ownership of her work basically for those six albums. And
Speaker 3: I think Big Machine Records, which the Scooter Broun is
Speaker 3: the name that you might have heard before here.
Speaker 2: He's the guy who worked.
Speaker 3: With Kanye Bieber to that that was one of his
Speaker 3: big ones. Yeah, and Taylor and Scooter bron have had
Speaker 3: some beef for a long time, but surely Taylor's beef
Speaker 3: turns into like a million people's beef because of her fans.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to read you a couple of text
Speaker 3: messages from a music friend of mine. Okay, he texted
Speaker 3: me that, I said, Taylor Grift strikes again.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I think, all right, I think our
Speaker 1: listeners actually will like her being called Taylor Griff.
Speaker 3: And I said, are you saying she could have bought
Speaker 3: these masters the whole time? So the company that bought
Speaker 3: the Masters was Shamrock. Shamrock was started with the nephew
Speaker 3: of Walt Disney, Roy Disney. Okay, so he's got some loot.
Speaker 3: So he has over three hundred million dollars he bought that.
Speaker 3: Taylor Shift has clearly over three hundred million dollars, right, Okay,
Speaker 3: so that's my point. I said, So she could have
Speaker 3: bought them this whole time. Question Mark, this guy knows
Speaker 3: way more about this stuff than I need.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: He said, one hundred percent. That's what Scooter Braun has
Speaker 3: been saying this whole time. But her fans aren't having it.
Speaker 3: And I have seen this out there before, Like Scooter
Speaker 3: Braun didn't do anything wrong here, he's just doing business.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's doing business a lot of and and it's
Speaker 1: the type of business you're doing. This is why Prince
Speaker 1: was at war with the record labels and why he
Speaker 1: wrote slave across his face. He was like, why did
Speaker 1: you Why do you own something I created? I created that,
Speaker 1: Why do you own it? What's reasonable? And again, different,
Speaker 1: different people could have a different idea of what's quote
Speaker 1: unquote reasonable. And I'm sure I don't know Taylor's exact position,
Speaker 1: but she's like, why should I have to pay you
Speaker 1: three hundred million dollars for something I recorded that You've
Speaker 1: made millions and millions of dollars off of what is fair?
Speaker 2: What is the principle here? You know what I'll do.
Speaker 1: I'll just re record all of it and tell my
Speaker 1: fans to listen to that.
Speaker 2: And she did, and she did.
Speaker 3: He said this as a music nerd, this is truly
Speaker 3: wild s. I can't wait to read the book on this.
Speaker 3: Her main motivation has always been Spie though, and that's
Speaker 3: what you do when you can't rely on talent, You
Speaker 3: make it a storyline.
Speaker 1: This guy's going hard on Taylor, I would disagree that
Speaker 1: Taylor doesn't have to.
Speaker 2: I would too. I would too.
Speaker 3: And then later he did say that she is a
Speaker 3: talented songwriter. Yeah, and backpedal off that.
Speaker 1: And by the way, when you have fu money, you
Speaker 1: can take spite to a whole new level.
Speaker 2: Right and well, and that's the biggest f you was like,
Speaker 2: you know what, keep them.
Speaker 3: I'm going to prove that I can rewrite the same
Speaker 3: exact song and then make more off of it.
Speaker 1: And it's not even rewrite it, it's just re recording,
Speaker 1: recording it. Go back into the studio and re record.
Speaker 2: It's pretty badass.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now I can trying to pin him down on this,
Speaker 3: give me to tell me a little bit more, putting
Speaker 3: him in a place to give me some really juicy answers. Yep,
Speaker 3: And he said the business griff Side is the most
Speaker 3: insane to me. Being a billionaire and still being that
Speaker 3: into making money is a sickness. She still charges her
Speaker 3: fan it's like one hundred dollars for a hoodie and
Speaker 3: fifty for an album. If I were her, I'd be
Speaker 3: selling that s for one dollar profit. And then he
Speaker 3: sends me a link to a website called the Tortured
Speaker 3: Poets Department variant tracker, which is her latest album, right,
Speaker 3: and how many variants of that release it has, because
Speaker 3: it'll get released and then it'll get re released, and
Speaker 3: she knows that her fans will go get that absolutely.
Speaker 3: And that's why I've always struggled with determining the business
Speaker 3: of the band and what a band is like the
Speaker 3: head of the band in her situation. But she's got
Speaker 3: a team, and it's hard to know. And some mans
Speaker 3: have a little more control over how they do things,
Speaker 3: and some just say, I don't care. I do what
Speaker 3: I do and let the label handle it. And I
Speaker 3: just think it's interesting thing. I don't know that I
Speaker 3: have a hard opinion. I don't know enough about.
Speaker 2: It to know.
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting too. Like I'll give you an example.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons that and this is my opinion.
Speaker 1: I've not been told this, Okay, this is my opinion.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons everybody loves Dirk so much is
Speaker 1: he gave up like a hundred million dollars maybe more
Speaker 1: to stay a Maverick.
Speaker 2: I'm willing to.
Speaker 1: Bet Dirk's not happy he did that because now he's
Speaker 1: in a later stage of his life, and he's a businessman,
Speaker 1: and he's an investor, and he's all kinds of different things.
Speaker 2: It's like the whole Luca thing.
Speaker 1: When Luca got traded, he lost out on about seventy
Speaker 1: million dollars he won't be able to recoup.
Speaker 2: And people are like, well, he's already rich. Who cares.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can buy a lot of things with seventy
Speaker 1: million dollars and can turn that into five hundred min
Speaker 1: You know. It's like that idea that being rich is
Speaker 1: a sickness.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: But let's talk about this. Maybe we'll talk about this later.
Speaker 1: Our friend Sarah Heppela wrote a great article about mort Myerson.
Speaker 1: You've been to the Myerson the Symphony, and he's talking
Speaker 1: about I wish the billionaires in this city would give
Speaker 1: back more to the city. Yeah, it's interesting. That's a
Speaker 1: big problem with humanity right now, in my opinion. If
Speaker 1: that guy was talking about by earlier Barry Diller. Barry
Speaker 1: Diller is a billionaire. Have y'all ever been to the
Speaker 1: high Line in New York?
Speaker 3: I haven't.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. He just donated it to the city of
Speaker 1: New York. It's this incredible. They turn an old elevated
Speaker 1: subway thing into a thing that you could walk through
Speaker 1: New York with all these gardens.
Speaker 2: It's just unbelievable.
Speaker 3: We have been there.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's cool.
Speaker 1: It's so cool. He said, I'm a billionaire. Why don't
Speaker 1: I give something like this to the community in which I.
Speaker 2: Was just a big wage gap? Yeah? Right, the extreme on.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy if you had all that money, think about
Speaker 1: all the things Like, I don't know a lot about it,
Speaker 1: but I know the Walton family have created all these
Speaker 1: amazing bike trails and parks in the state of Arkansas.
Speaker 1: They've made so much money off Walmart or whatever. Yeah, anyways,
Speaker 1: I do think it's a fascinating conversation. I'm with you.
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Speaker 1: sports institution going away and why I was pissed off
Speaker 1: about it. We'll do all that next on The Eagle.