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<v Speaker 1>It is The Ben and Skin Show, ninety seven point

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<v Speaker 1>one The Eagle. We're gonna move sports to the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the hour here coming up in about fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 1>or so.

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<v Speaker 2>But Katie, let's keep music news going. What you got

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<v Speaker 2>over there.

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<v Speaker 3>So this was this report on Friday, and I know

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<v Speaker 3>that we're on the Eagle, so a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>probably don't care, but I.

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<v Speaker 2>Do think it's interesting in terms of music.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, Taylor Swift is getting her best, just get

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<v Speaker 3>her master's back from her first five or six albums.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So just so people know, what masters refer to

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<v Speaker 1>is the original recordings, and why that should matter to

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<v Speaker 1>you is like you can think of a cover song

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<v Speaker 1>that's a new master recording. You can go re record

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<v Speaker 1>a song any number of times and create quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>new masters. But when a record company releases something, they

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<v Speaker 1>release recordings that they refer to as the master recordings.

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<v Speaker 3>Ownership of her work basically for those six albums. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think Big Machine Records, which the Scooter Broun is

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<v Speaker 3>the name that you might have heard before here.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the guy who worked.

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<v Speaker 3>With Kanye Bieber to that that was one of his

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<v Speaker 3>big ones. Yeah, and Taylor and Scooter bron have had

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<v Speaker 3>some beef for a long time, but surely Taylor's beef

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<v Speaker 3>turns into like a million people's beef because of her fans.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm trying to read you a couple of text

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<v Speaker 3>messages from a music friend of mine. Okay, he texted

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<v Speaker 3>me that, I said, Taylor Grift strikes again.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, I think, all right, I think our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners actually will like her being called Taylor Griff.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, are you saying she could have bought

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<v Speaker 3>these masters the whole time? So the company that bought

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<v Speaker 3>the Masters was Shamrock. Shamrock was started with the nephew

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<v Speaker 3>of Walt Disney, Roy Disney. Okay, so he's got some loot.

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<v Speaker 3>So he has over three hundred million dollars he bought that.

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<v Speaker 3>Taylor Shift has clearly over three hundred million dollars, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so that's my point. I said, So she could have

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<v Speaker 3>bought them this whole time. Question Mark, this guy knows

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<v Speaker 3>way more about this stuff than I need.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, one hundred percent. That's what Scooter Braun has

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<v Speaker 3>been saying this whole time. But her fans aren't having it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have seen this out there before, Like Scooter

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<v Speaker 3>Braun didn't do anything wrong here, he's just doing business.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's doing business a lot of and and it's

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<v Speaker 1>the type of business you're doing. This is why Prince

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<v Speaker 1>was at war with the record labels and why he

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<v Speaker 1>wrote slave across his face. He was like, why did

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<v Speaker 1>you Why do you own something I created? I created that,

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you own it? What's reasonable? And again, different,

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<v Speaker 1>different people could have a different idea of what's quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote reasonable. And I'm sure I don't know Taylor's exact position,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's like, why should I have to pay you

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred million dollars for something I recorded that You've

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<v Speaker 1>made millions and millions of dollars off of what is fair?

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<v Speaker 2>What is the principle here? You know what I'll do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just re record all of it and tell my

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<v Speaker 1>fans to listen to that.

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<v Speaker 2>And she did, and she did.

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<v Speaker 3>He said this as a music nerd, this is truly

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<v Speaker 3>wild s. I can't wait to read the book on this.

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<v Speaker 3>Her main motivation has always been Spie though, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>what you do when you can't rely on talent, You

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<v Speaker 3>make it a storyline.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy's going hard on Taylor, I would disagree that

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor doesn't have to.

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<v Speaker 2>I would too. I would too.

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<v Speaker 3>And then later he did say that she is a

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<v Speaker 3>talented songwriter. Yeah, and backpedal off that.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, when you have fu money, you

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<v Speaker 1>can take spite to a whole new level.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and well, and that's the biggest f you was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, keep them.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to prove that I can rewrite the same

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<v Speaker 3>exact song and then make more off of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not even rewrite it, it's just re recording,

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<v Speaker 1>recording it. Go back into the studio and re record.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty badass.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now I can trying to pin him down on this,

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<v Speaker 3>give me to tell me a little bit more, putting

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<v Speaker 3>him in a place to give me some really juicy answers. Yep,

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<v Speaker 3>And he said the business griff Side is the most

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<v Speaker 3>insane to me. Being a billionaire and still being that

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<v Speaker 3>into making money is a sickness. She still charges her

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<v Speaker 3>fan it's like one hundred dollars for a hoodie and

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<v Speaker 3>fifty for an album. If I were her, I'd be

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<v Speaker 3>selling that s for one dollar profit. And then he

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<v Speaker 3>sends me a link to a website called the Tortured

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<v Speaker 3>Poets Department variant tracker, which is her latest album, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and how many variants of that release it has, because

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<v Speaker 3>it'll get released and then it'll get re released, and

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<v Speaker 3>she knows that her fans will go get that absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why I've always struggled with determining the business

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<v Speaker 3>of the band and what a band is like the

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<v Speaker 3>head of the band in her situation. But she's got

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<v Speaker 3>a team, and it's hard to know. And some mans

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<v Speaker 3>have a little more control over how they do things,

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<v Speaker 3>and some just say, I don't care. I do what

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<v Speaker 3>I do and let the label handle it. And I

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<v Speaker 3>just think it's interesting thing. I don't know that I

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<v Speaker 3>have a hard opinion. I don't know enough about.

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<v Speaker 2>It to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's interesting too. Like I'll give you an example.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the reasons that and this is my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>I've not been told this, Okay, this is my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the reasons everybody loves Dirk so much is

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<v Speaker 1>he gave up like a hundred million dollars maybe more

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<v Speaker 1>to stay a Maverick.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm willing to.

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<v Speaker 1>Bet Dirk's not happy he did that because now he's

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<v Speaker 1>in a later stage of his life, and he's a businessman,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's an investor, and he's all kinds of different things.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the whole Luca thing.

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<v Speaker 1>When Luca got traded, he lost out on about seventy

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars he won't be able to recoup.

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<v Speaker 2>And people are like, well, he's already rich. Who cares.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can buy a lot of things with seventy

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars and can turn that into five hundred min

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It's like that idea that being rich is

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<v Speaker 1>a sickness.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's talk about this. Maybe we'll talk about this later.

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<v Speaker 1>Our friend Sarah Heppela wrote a great article about mort Myerson.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been to the Myerson the Symphony, and he's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about I wish the billionaires in this city would give

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<v Speaker 1>back more to the city. Yeah, it's interesting. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>big problem with humanity right now, in my opinion. If

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<v Speaker 1>that guy was talking about by earlier Barry Diller. Barry

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<v Speaker 1>Diller is a billionaire. Have y'all ever been to the

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<v Speaker 1>high Line in New York?

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's incredible. He just donated it to the city of

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<v Speaker 1>New York. It's this incredible. They turn an old elevated

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<v Speaker 1>subway thing into a thing that you could walk through

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<v Speaker 1>New York with all these gardens.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>We have been there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so cool. He said, I'm a billionaire. Why don't

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<v Speaker 1>I give something like this to the community in which I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was just a big wage gap? Yeah? Right, the extreme on.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy if you had all that money, think about

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<v Speaker 1>all the things Like, I don't know a lot about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know the Walton family have created all these

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<v Speaker 1>amazing bike trails and parks in the state of Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 1>They've made so much money off Walmart or whatever. Yeah, anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think it's a fascinating conversation. I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Ben and Skin Show ninety seven point one

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<v Speaker 1>The Eagle. Let's do sports. Coming up next, we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to the uh. We'll talk about this idea of a

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<v Speaker 1>sports institution going away and why I was pissed off

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<v Speaker 1>about it. We'll do all that next on The Eagle.