Speaker 1: You're putting we got some want or something.
Speaker 2: Out here.
Speaker 1: I can't go, but how I did?
Speaker 2: My vendor light came on and I did that, but
Speaker 2: they left. And big thing running across.
Speaker 1: The yard not a good sight man or something. I
Speaker 1: look like a man.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it was.
Speaker 3: The right across the yard, it seems to be a
Speaker 3: big foot leaning against a tree in a wooded area.
Speaker 2: I have seen plenty of people with big feet, but
Speaker 2: not bigfoot tree lines and rush.
Speaker 1: He sees about a seven and seven and a half
Speaker 1: foot tall sasquatch looking back at him, and.
Speaker 3: It kind of looks like a wolf, but not like
Speaker 3: a neighborhood dog.
Speaker 1: Pick these stores for what they are and hopes that
Speaker 1: maybe I, if it's out there, then't show me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and says he might have caught the mythical Cuba
Speaker 2: cabra creature terrorizing.
Speaker 3: His chickens like a grunt and a knock like a oh.
Speaker 1: I think there's kind of a cultural tendency for people
Speaker 1: to want to make big Foot a quote unquote monster.
Speaker 1: Welcome to ECBR Bigfoot Radio. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: here we are on another episode of ECBR Bigfoot Radio
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have an open discussion tonight. I had
Speaker 1: a couple of things in mind that will start us off.
Speaker 1: But uh, I want to welcome mister David Lester and
Speaker 1: Melissa Lester. This is the first time they actually joined
Speaker 1: us on here on a live podcast. Well, it's recorded live,
Speaker 1: but you guys are listening to this later. However, when
Speaker 1: it comes age versus technology, well he didn't let the
Speaker 1: age lose. He conquered, he made. So everyone give him
Speaker 1: around aplous for making it on. Yeah, our audience is
Speaker 1: proud of you. All right, So all right, so what
Speaker 1: do you think about this uh being on here instead
Speaker 1: of watching it? David?
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Yeah, I mean yeah, I think I'm
Speaker 2: joy doing stuff. I guess from time to time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh like you always keep it real. Yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2: We have always asked a questions everything.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. By any chance, did you guys get
Speaker 1: to see the little video I put together earlier regarding
Speaker 1: snow tracks or Big Quick The title it was called
Speaker 1: yeah see.
Speaker 2: Where you posted?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, it's only about five six minutes long.
Speaker 1: I've made other ones in the past. I've been re sharing, uh,
Speaker 1: but that's I felt like I had to put something
Speaker 1: else together to kind of go along with what I've
Speaker 1: been doing because from everything I see and I keep
Speaker 1: coming across, I got people sharing stuff to me because
Speaker 1: of this time of year, with the snow, underground tracks,
Speaker 1: all these tracks that people keep sharing. Here's the thing,
Speaker 1: I don't like to jump like people. I see stuff
Speaker 1: and I do share my honest opinion and exactly what
Speaker 1: it looks like if I if I call it how
Speaker 1: I see it, that's kind of how I am. And
Speaker 1: of course you know, some of these tracks that people
Speaker 1: are claiming that are coming through the yard, they clearly
Speaker 1: appear to be human boot tracks. And so you know,
Speaker 1: I had done an illustration shown boot tracks with snowmil
Speaker 1: Today I did another similar situation in my own yard,
Speaker 1: but I was are in Tennises. I was where I
Speaker 1: didn't have boots are and I was walking in the snow.
Speaker 1: The snow is starting to melt. It's finally getting soft again.
Speaker 1: Is we had hard, a hard puntry layer thick ice
Speaker 1: on the uh in the yard, but it's finally starting
Speaker 1: to melt. So I decided to look at some of
Speaker 1: the tracks that were already out there, and I used
Speaker 1: some of them in the illustration because even the little
Speaker 1: tracks that my grandson made out there, I mean, if
Speaker 1: anybody was to find them out in the woods, okay,
Speaker 1: that might have been a juvenile bigfoot or or whatever.
Speaker 1: But yeah, some of these small tracks that Cayden put
Speaker 1: out in the yard a few days ago, they don't
Speaker 1: you can't even see the shape of the boot or
Speaker 1: the heeling them no more. They look completely different. Some
Speaker 1: of the tracks in the yard there anywhere from two
Speaker 1: to three to a whole week old, you know. But
Speaker 1: there was some tracks that looked like elephant tracks. But
Speaker 1: they and the funny thing is, and I pointed this
Speaker 1: out in the video. I showed how small my grands
Speaker 1: on feet were in the snow from the fresher looking
Speaker 1: tracks versus what's a week old, because the way those
Speaker 1: tracks imprinted, I mean, the snows enlarged and melted and
Speaker 1: expanded around those little footprints. You can actually see in
Speaker 1: the grass in them now. So and they look like
Speaker 1: round elephant tracks, you know. Yeah. So I just try
Speaker 1: to put stuff out there, you know, and I try
Speaker 1: to share it, you know, because sadly everybody's got big
Speaker 1: put on their brain, you know, not everybody. I shouldn't
Speaker 1: say everybody, but a lot of people, a majority of
Speaker 1: the people that are in this field. I know, William,
Speaker 1: I know you've seen it, you know, a lot, and
Speaker 1: and I see it a lot too, And sometimes I
Speaker 1: ignore it. But then sometimes I feel like I feel
Speaker 1: more I actually feel more guilty if I do ignore it,
Speaker 1: because I feel like I have to say something, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm obligated to say something. It's just
Speaker 1: like when it comes to all these AI images, which
Speaker 1: I know, uh we kind of talked about that not
Speaker 1: long ago too, but uh, getting irritated that, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: it is really I see it destroying especially what we do.
Speaker 1: You know, there's all these fake images of all these
Speaker 1: so called celebrities, you know, or not even celebrities, but
Speaker 1: other like other images made to look like young girls
Speaker 1: that you know. AI is not perfect because if you
Speaker 1: look at these images enough, you'll see flaws in them.
Speaker 1: Either the images will have extra fingers, you know, or whatever. Uh.
Speaker 1: And the sad thing is, you see all these people
Speaker 1: in the comments less than half of these fake pictures.
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2: Look at pictures and stuff like research, whether it's just
Speaker 2: having fun were actually trying to fund stiff. They're couch potatoes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they believe everything they see and hearing stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, Actually, I actually do believe that there
Speaker 3: are people that are are being or making money or
Speaker 3: being paid by certain I don't want to say this
Speaker 3: organizations two make this field of cryptids and and paranormal
Speaker 3: and supernatural something to be scoffed at and mocked like
Speaker 3: we're all crazy anyways.
Speaker 2: So it's like it's like a bait and switch. That way,
Speaker 2: they get to people not believing them to make fun
Speaker 2: of the other while the real stuff is going on
Speaker 2: behind the scenes. You know, it's a distraction technique.
Speaker 1: Absolutely well. I can vouch for what you just said there, William.
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's your personal profile on Facebook
Speaker 1: or you have a Facebook page that is set up
Speaker 1: to make money through the content. That doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: the content is. As long as it's original, as long
Speaker 1: as it's coming from you and it's getting clicks and
Speaker 1: likes and views and whatever it shares, all that will
Speaker 1: accumulate funds. Yep, and I'll be I'll admit this. Yes,
Speaker 1: I get money from Facebook every month. I get a
Speaker 1: little something. It's not that much, but I get something
Speaker 1: from them because I have my monetorization set up for
Speaker 1: the content that I share on Facebook. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean sometimes it's only fifteen dollars, it might be twenty
Speaker 1: three dollars. I mean, I've had it more in the past,
Speaker 1: but I know Facebook's gotten stupid with me and wants
Speaker 1: to restrict me on stuff, so I may. I used
Speaker 1: to make forty to fifty dollars a month off of Facebook.
Speaker 1: But I know there's people out there that create certain content,
Speaker 1: like a lot of reels, there's people making there's some
Speaker 1: people making bank on Facebook.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's just like YouTube. That's just like YouTube.
Speaker 3: And YouTube's getting bad with the censorship too, because I
Speaker 3: had a podcast last uh was it Saturday or Sunday,
Speaker 3: one of the last paranormal brew morning shows I did,
Speaker 3: where we talked a lot about about the supernatural aspect
Speaker 3: of water and the paranormal aspect of water and its
Speaker 3: connection to biblical stuff and to what's going on today
Speaker 3: and missing people. And they actually removed that actual podcast
Speaker 3: from YouTube for because it went against YouTube policies.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I think that's bizarre because I mean,
Speaker 1: you should see half the stuff that's on YouTube.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, wow, yeah, I mean is there was
Speaker 4: there a way to contest against that, like go against
Speaker 4: that or like to fight it or Yeah.
Speaker 3: I disputed it through the normal channels and claimed the
Speaker 3: fair use and all that and how all of it
Speaker 3: was my original content that I didn't write any any
Speaker 3: video usage from other podcasters or or shows, and uh
Speaker 3: my dispute went basically they they kept the ruling as
Speaker 3: far as leaving it off the channel.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But now the question is is that people doing
Speaker 2: that or is it all dumble ai too? Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: another will be another big problem.
Speaker 1: I get, well, a I already controlled Facebook, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, what's his name? Uh, I even forget
Speaker 1: his name, the guy who owns Facebook. I mean, he
Speaker 1: says he's going to do this and do that, but
Speaker 1: he's got all these bots that are into doing everything
Speaker 1: about the right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not doing a very good job because legitimate
Speaker 2: stuff gets banned. And then some of the let's just say,
Speaker 2: risk a type stuff you see all the time on Facebook.
Speaker 2: You don't make you don't let kids see some of
Speaker 2: this stuff. The cartoons, a cartoon or any kind of
Speaker 2: things that suggested you see all the time on Facebook.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Facebook, and and the bots are getting out of
Speaker 3: control on Facebook, that is for sure, along with YouTube. Really,
Speaker 3: the only the only platforms I'm thinking about sticking with
Speaker 3: right now are gonna be Rumble and uh and uh
Speaker 3: probably u X And that's it.
Speaker 2: I'm really thinking.
Speaker 3: About pulling my channels off of YouTube and Facebook altogether
Speaker 3: and running just on those other two platforms. And that's it,
Speaker 3: because I don't make money off of Facebook, you know,
Speaker 3: my channels, my Nighthawk High Strangers channel doesn't make any
Speaker 3: type of money off of Facebook whatsoever. And the only
Speaker 3: money I get off of YouTube are from superstickers or
Speaker 3: super chats, and that's really it. I don't have any
Speaker 3: way of you know, sustaining the cost of what it
Speaker 3: takes to keep a podcast going, you know, because as
Speaker 3: podcasters were always trying to come up with new content
Speaker 3: and and better, better technology and all that to make
Speaker 3: it seem more appealing to people. But you know, it's
Speaker 3: getting expensive, to tell you the truth.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well, you know the other biggest thing when
Speaker 1: it comes to AI, there's a lot of these Facebook pages.
Speaker 1: If you go to them, like for example, some of
Speaker 1: these are different movie pages or I don't know. Some
Speaker 1: of them has weird names. But they shared content of
Speaker 1: these alleged movies or new sequels of these certain movies
Speaker 1: coming out. And I can tell you almost every single
Speaker 1: one of them is false. It's fake and made up.
Speaker 1: And oh yeah, now there was one. Bless his heart,
Speaker 1: mister Ron, howse you know, I love him to death.
Speaker 5: But yeah, well, Ron, he had shared something and then
Speaker 5: he actually had to capture above it like, yes, I
Speaker 5: can't wait for this, and I'm looking at it and
Speaker 5: looking at the source where it came from and doing
Speaker 5: what anybody should be doing.
Speaker 1: I did my research. I went and looked up at
Speaker 1: content and the information. It's not happening, you know. So
Speaker 1: I came back and told him, I said, Ron, if
Speaker 1: you did your research, you would know that this is
Speaker 1: fake and made up. This is not real. His his
Speaker 1: comment when he seen my comment, he said, I thought,
Speaker 1: fa who got rid of fact checkers? So I think, Look,
Speaker 1: I said, I don't like to see my friends being
Speaker 1: goble Okay, just do your research.
Speaker 2: With them. YouTube does the same thing, because I've seen
Speaker 2: a trailer on there the other day with a new
Speaker 2: uh Presator movie with art it was a full length
Speaker 2: type trailer, like two or three minutes long, and every
Speaker 2: bit of it was AI generator.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well one division you have to look for. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got the.
Speaker 2: Interrupted comments, and there was people attuned to that because
Speaker 2: you can see comments down there. Come on, people, this
Speaker 2: is not going out and look at it and rewatch it.
Speaker 2: You can see everything's AI generated. It's not but clickbait
Speaker 2: and people trying to make money and all this other stuff.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 2: It's getting out of hand really.
Speaker 1: Well. The other thing is, uh, most of the ones
Speaker 1: that do that, if it's a decent YouTube channel, they're
Speaker 1: usually straight up and honest, and somewhere in the description
Speaker 1: or somewhere near the title, there's a there's a thing
Speaker 1: on there world it'll say fan made like like, uh,
Speaker 1: some of these like it's content that people create, like hey,
Speaker 1: this is what will what we would like to see,
Speaker 1: you know, but and some of it looks impressive. And
Speaker 1: now sometimes sometimes some of these content makers they will
Speaker 1: use clips and scenes from other movies and do a blend.
Speaker 1: You know that they I've seen them do that before.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of times I've been fooled by some of
Speaker 1: that stuff. And more and more you watch it, you
Speaker 1: get more familiar with it. So but it is kind
Speaker 1: of I gotta admit, some of it does look impressive. Uh,
Speaker 1: some of these people are good at what they do.
Speaker 2: But reality though, there's a couple of times reality from
Speaker 2: what's like.
Speaker 1: Right again, like I was saying earlier, if it's a
Speaker 1: decent YouTube channel, they'll specify that. And a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't don't look at the descriptions of these videos
Speaker 1: at all, because I know that firsthand based off based
Speaker 1: off of some of the content and some of the
Speaker 1: stuff I put out there. Uh, and the feedback I
Speaker 1: get people not reading what why I'm doing what I do.
Speaker 1: And but yeah, they'll tell you it's either fan made
Speaker 1: or fantasy. A lot of videos again to me, if
Speaker 1: it's a decent YouTube channel, if they're not out there
Speaker 1: to try to fool people. But but it is what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but yeah, you got to step up and
Speaker 2: not feel bad about, you know, sitting record strain at
Speaker 2: least getting your opinion anyway, because I know it's on
Speaker 2: Facebook a couple of times that one there's one channel
Speaker 2: on there. I know, Dan know you're familiar with it. Uh.
Speaker 2: Everything when people post pictures, there's always every shadow and
Speaker 2: everything they post on there's a big foot of this,
Speaker 2: bigfoot that, or some kind of crypto this and that
Speaker 2: tears out of it. And there was two pictures in particular,
Speaker 2: one with a raccoon and another one that if when
Speaker 2: people get equipment and actually set the stuff up and
Speaker 2: go use it, they've got to learn the equipment and
Speaker 2: how what it's about and what it does, because a
Speaker 2: lot of people don't realize when you use an i
Speaker 2: R whether it's trail cams or cameras that has a
Speaker 2: uh infrared lighting and stuff like that, your people's reflect
Speaker 2: that back into the lens. Right, they're going to say, well,
Speaker 2: we got eye shine over here, we got eye shine
Speaker 2: over there, and to standing up moving, but they're not
Speaker 2: looking at the dynamics of the picture of it's actually
Speaker 2: the raccoon with the eyes as it was coming closer,
Speaker 2: was getting higher in the deer. If you look at
Speaker 2: the picture and turn it upside down, you could actually
Speaker 2: then make out the image of the deer head, but
Speaker 2: the antler's on the bottle. But yet people looking at
Speaker 2: that picture in its original content was saying that was paranormal. Right,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you got to understand the equipment you're using,
Speaker 2: how it works, and how it can affect the environment
Speaker 2: you're in. So, as Williams says, question everything, you got
Speaker 2: to dissect it before we can get to any kind
Speaker 2: of truth. You've got to do that, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: you just gotta jump head over heels to say, and
Speaker 2: everything's a bigfoot or liz Man and all that other stuff,
Speaker 2: Which is why I'd like you two, because you keep
Speaker 2: everything down the earth to keep it real. Uh, we
Speaker 2: try to.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's getting harder and harder too though, because
Speaker 3: there's not too many people. I mean, you've got two
Speaker 3: categories of people right now in the fields of cryptid
Speaker 3: and paranormal.
Speaker 2: And you've got the.
Speaker 3: Kind of skeptic type of people that believe that everything
Speaker 3: is flesh and blood, okay, that that Native American legends
Speaker 3: or history oral tradition doesn't hold any you know, significance
Speaker 3: in in you know, basically confirming or denying whether these
Speaker 3: cryptids or or the supernatural exists. Then you've got the
Speaker 3: ones that believe in the WU factor, that believe that
Speaker 3: those things exist and think that Bigfoot is is straight
Speaker 3: spirit and or an inter dimensional traveler and all this,
Speaker 3: you know, and you've got so many people butting heads
Speaker 3: on a constant, daily, daily basis, and it's stupid to
Speaker 3: do that. We need to actually work together to figure
Speaker 3: out what's going on before we start working apart and separate.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I got to keep that open mind. Yeah, exactly the
Speaker 2: possibility until it's proven differently, everything's the possibility exactly to
Speaker 2: be here, this existence that we are. Now, why couldn't
Speaker 2: there be others? You know, exactly there is there is,
Speaker 2: But why couldn't there be portals? Just like dark matter?
Speaker 2: How do we know there's not another universe on the
Speaker 2: dark matter side of things? And they've got a way
Speaker 2: to come back and forth or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 2: You got to keep an open minds what I'm trying.
Speaker 3: To say, And and take for instance this I've been
Speaker 3: you know, you guys, I've been doing a lot of
Speaker 3: research and investigating on portals.
Speaker 2: You all know that.
Speaker 3: And just recently I made the connection with portals and water,
Speaker 3: you know, h two O, and even confirming it with
Speaker 3: the Bible, showing that it actually water is actually a
Speaker 3: factor in portals. Water's a factor and missing people. Okay,
Speaker 3: Water's a factor in the paranormal field because it's an
Speaker 3: energy sources. It actually water holds memory, okay. And water
Speaker 3: has the connection to the Bible because it says that
Speaker 3: in the Bible that the Antichrist are the beast of
Speaker 3: the sea, you know. And that's a biblical connection saying
Speaker 3: that the beast is going to come out of the water. Okay,
Speaker 3: we all know that. And we all know that when
Speaker 3: God casted Lucifer out of the heavens plural, okay, heave ends,
Speaker 3: not just heaven.
Speaker 2: The heave ends.
Speaker 3: That he fell all the way down into the bottomless.
Speaker 2: Pit, which is the oceans. Okay.
Speaker 3: And it's awful funny how mankind can't get down below
Speaker 3: ten thousand feet in an ocean without having submersibles get
Speaker 3: crushed by the.
Speaker 2: Pressure, right, you know.
Speaker 3: And you know, so that could technically be classified as
Speaker 3: a bottomless pit, you know, at least for mankind because
Speaker 3: we would never be able to reach the bottom.
Speaker 2: And that's the only way I could describe it too,
Speaker 2: exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, there's there's so many connections and if
Speaker 3: people ever really studied and researched and investigated on their
Speaker 3: own the connection to what biblical literature and text says.
Speaker 3: And I'm not just talking the King James version. I'm
Speaker 3: talking the Book of Enoch, the Book of Giants, the
Speaker 3: Book of Jubilee, the Book of Oh God, Mary, Mary Magdalene,
Speaker 3: just there's there's so many other books, you know, and
Speaker 3: the one Bible that I use reference to that I
Speaker 3: get the most, that I find the most in research
Speaker 3: connecting the dots to what's happening to day with the
Speaker 3: cryptids and and the paranormal and the supernatural and the
Speaker 3: way the world is is the Ethiopian Bible because it
Speaker 3: has the original you know, hypopricas in it that we
Speaker 3: were actually pulled away back from the Pope of the
Speaker 3: Vatican at the time back I think it was five
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy two a d. The Pope changed the
Speaker 3: Bible and just made it into a King James version.
Speaker 2: Basically what we have today.
Speaker 3: So it's missing you know, so many, so many books
Speaker 3: that were part of it that explain about the Onnaanaki
Speaker 3: and and giants and you know, just literally everything. It
Speaker 3: talks about the Book of Enoch explaining how God actually
Speaker 3: made the women that lied lied down with you know,
Speaker 3: the fallen ones, turning them into mermaids and Bible and
Speaker 3: that's why we have mermaids today. Everybody says though mermaids
Speaker 3: are fictitious, they're fake.
Speaker 2: You know, they don't exist.
Speaker 3: You read the history of Sailors and you compare it
Speaker 3: to your history of the missing hypopapse of the Bible,
Speaker 3: and you'll realize that that itself should give you enough
Speaker 3: doubt to at least investigate it further, that mermaids.
Speaker 2: Could be real. Okay, so anyone exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Vatican has so much information they don't want
Speaker 3: us to know about it. The Vatican is also going
Speaker 3: to be the one to usher in the one, the
Speaker 3: one world religion.
Speaker 1: So well, it's like, you know, for those who don't
Speaker 1: know when I'm about the person I'm about to make
Speaker 1: mention of, just real briefly, Martin Luther. A lot of
Speaker 1: people don't understand there was two people by the name
Speaker 1: of Martin Luther. You got Martin Luther, King, Martin Luther,
Speaker 1: the performance. A lot of people don't know about the Reformists.
Speaker 1: Martin Luther he used to be a Catholic monk. Just
Speaker 1: without getting into too much detail, they had a Bible
Speaker 1: out their monastery. You know, they were the Bible, but
Speaker 1: the monks and everybody else they weren't allowed to read
Speaker 1: from it. But Martin Luther, being who he was, you know,
Speaker 1: was curious. He wanted to look, you know, he took
Speaker 1: it upon himself to start reading it. But the content
Speaker 1: of the Bible, it was actually the Bible. I don't
Speaker 1: remember what version of the Bible it was, but he
Speaker 1: did start reading it. It was stuff that they didn't
Speaker 1: want the you know, they didn't want the other monks
Speaker 1: to know what was inside that, you know, but they
Speaker 1: had access to it. They didn't want the public to
Speaker 1: know because they fed the public what they wanted them
Speaker 1: to know and believe. But when Martin Luther did his research,
Speaker 1: it opened his eyes. He started a whole new world.
Speaker 1: And then he started putting the information out there, and
Speaker 1: that's what we started the Reformation, you know. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: for example, the church my parents go, we go to
Speaker 1: the Reform Baptist Church. It's here in Verona, you know,
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, there's Reform Baptist churches all around
Speaker 1: the world. It's a Baptist church, but there's a slight
Speaker 1: difference in it there's there's a reformed uh doctrine involved,
Speaker 1: you know. But my point is presenting that that, you know,
Speaker 1: the content of the Bible was hidden away to a
Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, for many years.
Speaker 3: And you know, a lot of people are trying to
Speaker 3: make the connection with the Enfelim to Bigfoot, you know,
Speaker 3: and make that biblical connection. And you know, I for
Speaker 3: one can say that that could possibly be a factor
Speaker 3: in the supernatural aspect of the the Bigfoot for otherwise
Speaker 3: I know as calling him big brother, because you know,
Speaker 3: the indigenous inhabitants of the America's South America, America and
Speaker 3: North America for that matter, very seldom did you hear
Speaker 3: of of interactions being more negative than when the two
Speaker 3: clashed over hunting rights or grounds, you know, and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, and ceremonial grounds. We think of Bigfoot or
Speaker 3: Sasquatch as a tribe just another another part of the
Speaker 3: indigenous culture in America, you know, and Canada. You know,
Speaker 3: we we kind of make that connection and because we
Speaker 3: know big brothers always been here. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: when we do ceremony, and I've said this one hundred
Speaker 3: times to everybody on the podcast, when we do ceremony,
Speaker 3: like when I do a sweat lodge or or a
Speaker 3: vision quest, a humblatia, or or a flesh offering. You know,
Speaker 3: the prayers that I send up in in my younger days,
Speaker 3: we're more of a darker prayer to protect our sacred
Speaker 3: burial mounds and and our sacred lands and stuff, and
Speaker 3: to ask that supernatural part of that entity to come
Speaker 3: forward and protect those lands and to protect our ancestors' bones,
Speaker 3: you know. And a lot of people can't comprehend that
Speaker 3: that actually happens, and it does happen, okay, you you know.
Speaker 3: And in fact, I had somebody very recently, you know,
Speaker 3: who I hold here near and dear to me, contact
Speaker 3: me and uh, you know, wanted me to help them
Speaker 3: out with the supernatural problem of of of a being
Speaker 3: that I talk about several times in the podcast in
Speaker 3: the past. It's basically and and and David and Melissa
Speaker 3: know this. I've talked about the shadow realm, you know
Speaker 3: how how the shadow realm is basically like that. Everybody
Speaker 3: else calls it the veil. Okay, whenever you deal with
Speaker 3: anybody in the paranormal, they call it the veil. And
Speaker 3: I've always known it as the shadow realm, and the
Speaker 3: shadow realm is just that layer, that thin layer realm
Speaker 3: where it's almost it can almost be considered like the
Speaker 3: first heaven. It's it's almost like purgatory compared to heaven, Okay,
Speaker 3: where a lot of the dark matter goes and a
Speaker 3: lot of the evil goes.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: A lot of the people that don't don't believe in
Speaker 3: something of a higher being being their God, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. So they don't, they don't their spirit.
Speaker 3: The spirit is separate from the soul. And I say
Speaker 3: that because whenever you deal with residual energy, you're not
Speaker 3: dealing with the soul. You're dealing with the spirit energy
Speaker 3: of the person or persons that once lived, and they're
Speaker 3: recycling the best parts of their lives are the most
Speaker 3: tragic parts of their lives over and over again, like
Speaker 3: a recording, Okay. Whereas your soul goes on to whatever
Speaker 3: belief you have, whether you're Muslim, whether you're Christian, Catholic,
Speaker 3: whatever your form of heaven is, your belief is where
Speaker 3: your soul's going to go.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So they're two separate things, and a lot of people
Speaker 3: don't distinguish that, but they are two separate things, and
Speaker 3: when you deal with the supernatural, it's a whole different
Speaker 3: animal from the cryptid. You know, it's a whole different
Speaker 3: animal from the paranormal. Okay, even though you can get
Speaker 3: a connection to the supernatural through the paranormal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. What I find amazing is there's a
Speaker 2: dist next sumwhere because I probably because people don't want
Speaker 2: to be taken out of their comfort zone and whatever.
Speaker 2: It takes me about the Bible and churches and stuff
Speaker 2: like as like this. There's a lot of stuff in
Speaker 2: the Bible that if you read the Bible from the
Speaker 2: way it's written now, the King James and stuff and
Speaker 2: so forth, there's a lot of stuff in there that
Speaker 2: if you think about it, this paranormal in it. There
Speaker 2: could be aliens in it. Yep, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: questions in it. But yet they don't teach and other
Speaker 2: factors too, without getting long winding, but any of those factors.
Speaker 2: Any church you go to, they do not preach any
Speaker 2: of that, right, And if anybody ask any questions pertaining
Speaker 2: to that, this circumvent answering the question. And people will
Speaker 2: believe the Bible, but it's like they're believing certain parts
Speaker 2: of it, but they're ignoring the other parts. And we
Speaker 2: work with some people up there where we work at
Speaker 2: right now, there's a girl there that was an atheist,
Speaker 2: didn't believe in God, and one day we we got
Speaker 2: to talking and we've got to talk about the paranormalis
Speaker 2: about the dark side. Well, she didn't want to hear that.
Speaker 2: She didn't want to do with no evil stuff. Well
Speaker 2: that way, man, if you believe in evil, I think,
Speaker 2: why do you not believe in God? See, they contradict themselves.
Speaker 2: People don't want to be taken out of the comfort zone,
Speaker 2: like the Castle potatoes. When it comes to cryptis. I've
Speaker 2: not had a big foot in counter okay, but I've
Speaker 2: had paranormal stuff throughout my life that raises questions and
Speaker 2: a lot of them, and we had we've had some
Speaker 2: around here. I was too much to get into right
Speaker 2: now for no more time than what we have. But
Speaker 2: as a kid, that set the stage for my interest
Speaker 2: in the paranormal. Encryptis. Uh. The first thing that got
Speaker 2: me started on it. I was in the early sixties,
Speaker 2: not the date my soul. I was sitting on the
Speaker 2: floor in the chair. That's probably about four maybe five
Speaker 2: years old and I was watching a nineteen fifty seven movie.
Speaker 2: I was The Teenage Word with Michael Lane if you
Speaker 2: knew who Michael Landon was. Oh yeah, while we were
Speaker 2: watching that, we heard footsteps upstairs. I remember specifically looking
Speaker 2: up at my mom and she looked at me. She
Speaker 2: heard it too. She says, Uh, this place is supposedly haunted.
Speaker 2: I remember that like it was yesterday. It's amazingly got
Speaker 2: certain things to stay with you. Well, they go on
Speaker 2: through life. We've had other experiences in another house and
Speaker 2: we lived in and stuff like that around here. Blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. But I've always had that interest in the
Speaker 2: movies and all these programs and stuff. But I never
Speaker 2: really got involved in because of my two careers that
Speaker 2: you know, I was in stuff like that. But the
Speaker 2: careers I had taught me to keep an evil evil
Speaker 2: a level minded aspect of things to where something does happen,
Speaker 2: to think it through, look at you know, investigate it,
Speaker 2: come up with the other possibilities and answers like that.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: But I've never had anything on the crypticide. Now we've
Speaker 2: been out with Daniel, since we've met him. Uh, we
Speaker 2: have seen things that are questionable. Uh, but I can't
Speaker 2: jump on the bandwagon without further proof saying well, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a bigfoot or whatever the case may be. I mean,
Speaker 2: we've seen structures, we've seen prints. Rob was with it.
Speaker 2: I got some pictures of stuff that looked like it
Speaker 2: couldn't have been Prince or maybe a handprint in the
Speaker 2: dirt one time. Ifact Daniel found some things you showed
Speaker 2: me here. This last camp out we did, I set
Speaker 2: up for quarters one night, and uh, it's around approx
Speaker 2: my time frame on the nighttime recording, so while everybody
Speaker 2: was sleeping is probably between twelve and two. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: have to start keeping better truck of the time, so
Speaker 2: I set them out. It's a six hour recording. But
Speaker 2: you can clearly hear what's sounded like a tree knock.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Daniel here, But then I got to thinking
Speaker 2: about it again. If you take two rocks and clank
Speaker 2: them together too, that will almost sound like a tree knock,
Speaker 2: but it was distinct, and knock is distinct from your
Speaker 2: normal surrounding sounds that'll go right, It's like it's an intent.
Speaker 2: It was another whether there's two rocks hitting together or
Speaker 2: or actual tree knock, which I found interesting as far
Speaker 2: as that and of course other different sounds really can't
Speaker 2: pinpoints actly what it was, but by listening to it,
Speaker 2: it raises questions. I hope I have an encounter one
Speaker 2: day to confirm all that we're not going to give
Speaker 2: up trying because we've got another camp out coming up.
Speaker 2: But there's just so much going out there. People don't
Speaker 2: want me taking other comfort zones all getting out, and
Speaker 2: then you got those cast potatoes that they want to
Speaker 2: deny everything that comes about again the comfort zone comes
Speaker 2: into play, but they don't get out and try to
Speaker 2: research it. Then you got the fakers out there, those
Speaker 2: that want to fake it because they just feel like
Speaker 2: they're needling people that believe in this or want to
Speaker 2: believe in it, do research. Because I can see Daniel
Speaker 2: gets irritated quite a bit when they see stuff that
Speaker 2: people post to say. I get irritated too.
Speaker 1: But I've been seeing it for years and it gets
Speaker 1: you know, it gets some of it gets old after
Speaker 1: a while. Come on, I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna do what I'm going to do and get out
Speaker 2: with you all the stuff and do what you all
Speaker 2: do and look for my own answers and then at
Speaker 2: am with the indigenous people and stuff, and the Native
Speaker 2: Americans and stuff like that, him and Dennis and Erica,
Speaker 2: stuff like the stuff that they keep talking about. I mean,
Speaker 2: it just expands your imagination more questions, and also, believe
Speaker 2: it or not, it gives them more of an understanding
Speaker 2: of what could be going on just by watching you,
Speaker 2: William and some of the others. And plus it gives
Speaker 2: the more understanding you have, the more answers you might
Speaker 2: be able to come up with when you do your
Speaker 2: own research, or the more questions be able to come
Speaker 2: up with, you know, some kind of possibility or or
Speaker 2: nail down the truth. But then if you ever do
Speaker 2: nail down the truth, where do we go from there? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing I want to touch on that you
Speaker 1: made me think of or something you kind of brought
Speaker 1: up there. They would, you know, refer to the campouts
Speaker 1: and everything, and you know, you want an encounter. Sure,
Speaker 1: I haven't had an encounter in since twenty fourteen. I mean,
Speaker 1: well I could I could count twenty fifteen. I could
Speaker 1: count that as an encounter because it was just a
Speaker 1: year later in the same section of woods. I was
Speaker 1: by myself that time. But I need more too, I
Speaker 1: need more to feed my mind to a witness and
Speaker 1: observe more, because the more you observe, the more you witness,
Speaker 1: it gives you some piece of information and something to
Speaker 1: start to understand a little bit, you know, especially based
Speaker 1: off of what we find. And you know, we studied,
Speaker 1: like some of the structures, you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: it's very interesting. I'll never say Bigfoot made them, but
Speaker 1: I always put that possibility it could have been from that.
Speaker 1: You know. However, one of the things I know, I
Speaker 1: talked to you, David about this, that one of the
Speaker 1: things I do want to do, and this is kind
Speaker 1: of taken. I personally feel like this would take us
Speaker 1: out of our comfort zone. I want to put ourselves
Speaker 1: in a position to where we might be vulnerable. Like
Speaker 1: for example, how I talk to you about doing some
Speaker 1: night steakouts out there, Like maybe like if other people
Speaker 1: want to do it too, that's great. Let's split up.
Speaker 1: Let's not all be in a cluster. For example, me
Speaker 1: and you, David, I thought about, let's go park at
Speaker 1: the gate and walk up on that little ridgeline and
Speaker 1: stay up there somewhere and stay tonight and see what happens.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's where Paul's wife had had her sighting
Speaker 1: when they went up there, you know, and which was
Speaker 1: very interesting because you know, like I said, they shared
Speaker 1: the story about that. You know, actually I was going
Speaker 1: to ask you guys about that because you guys got
Speaker 1: to hear it firsthand when they came back to the
Speaker 1: gate and she started explaining about what she saw. What
Speaker 1: exactly was the detail that she shared with you guys
Speaker 1: that she thought she started bear.
Speaker 2: Right we were getting ready to leave, so we stopped
Speaker 2: there by the trailer just where they set the pill
Speaker 2: up after where we were camping at, and we packed
Speaker 2: up and getting ready to pull out to get ready
Speaker 2: leave the dinner and say goodbye. And they had just
Speaker 2: gotten back down there at the gate where I showed
Speaker 2: her husband with a park at and uh, the old
Speaker 2: thing she said casually was yeah, we went and walked
Speaker 2: to the lake from the gate and everything. But just
Speaker 2: as we got Alice started walking, I seen the bear
Speaker 2: and then she got to she just kept all she
Speaker 2: got to talking about she seen it up in the woodline.
Speaker 2: Then it ran on two legs, ran across the road
Speaker 2: down into the gull on the other side, down to
Speaker 2: the stream bed. Then I got to thinking what ran
Speaker 2: on two legs? And then I asked her, I said,
Speaker 2: you see it ran on two legs, and she said, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was running on two legs. It was behind the tree,
Speaker 2: was watching this park, and I was getting out of
Speaker 2: the vehicle, and then I took off running a couple
Speaker 2: of striders across the road down the embankment, went down
Speaker 2: to the streambed area, and I said, well, bears don't
Speaker 2: run on two legs. They can hobble kind of fast
Speaker 2: on two legs, but you're only talking a short distance
Speaker 2: right and very short hobble back and forth a little
Speaker 2: bit because the balance wise and the penguin walk. Because
Speaker 2: she didn't get defensive, she got confused because she really
Speaker 2: believed in her mind it.
Speaker 1: Was a bear.
Speaker 2: Because again that's because she was taken out of her
Speaker 2: comfort zone because when I asked her that question about
Speaker 2: it ran on two legs, said yes, stuff. And then
Speaker 2: when I looked at her, he said, well, you didn't
Speaker 2: see a bear. And then that's when her husband looked
Speaker 2: at me. He said, you're right, because she did not
Speaker 2: tell me that part. When we were down there by
Speaker 2: the gate, they asked no more questions. He took it
Speaker 2: for granted it was a bear. That's the way he
Speaker 2: got his fistle out and I took it with him.
Speaker 2: He hosted. He didn't walk around with it to the lake.
Speaker 2: He just you know, kept it for safety wise, kept
Speaker 2: it with and and that opened up his eyes too,
Speaker 2: because once we started asking the questions, she became more uncomfortable,
Speaker 2: not defensive, uh, because she realizes that she's not that
Speaker 2: well versus wildlife.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's the way I understood it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, her and her husband, they're both basically retired to FBI.
Speaker 2: They weren't not really big outdoorsmen, especially she's not. And uh,
Speaker 2: and that that just took her out of her comfort zone,
Speaker 2: is what it did. She didn't get defensive, Melissa, she
Speaker 2: she got uncomfortable because then then she started with yeah, scared.
Speaker 2: She was through a little bit. She was through a
Speaker 2: little bit within herself thinking about the encounter she just had.
Speaker 2: Based on what she told us, the description and then
Speaker 2: the questions we were asking started to match up. Well,
Speaker 2: she's said from what she said, it was not a bear.
Speaker 2: She never one time seen it on all fours Because
Speaker 2: I remember now, that's try I remember now, I said
Speaker 2: when Iran did a run on all fours. She said no,
Speaker 2: on two legs. I remember now specifically asked her that
Speaker 2: now we're rethinking the back of my mind. And when
Speaker 2: she said no, it wasn't on all fours and ran
Speaker 2: across the road on two legs. And that's when we
Speaker 2: asked her a couple more questions and she got uncomfortable
Speaker 2: with because I guess she could. I guess she really
Speaker 2: realized at that point what she may have seen was
Speaker 2: not a bear. And they still walked to the lake
Speaker 2: out there in the woods, right, But oh yeah, people
Speaker 2: like him to get out of the comfort zone. I mean,
Speaker 2: nobody knows how he's going to act. It till react
Speaker 2: until something happens to him anyway, exactly. But again, if
Speaker 2: if it was something other than a bear, and it
Speaker 2: was maybe a bigfoot, that just reaffers to my mind,
Speaker 2: based on location, they're really not an aggressive animal unless
Speaker 2: you give them a reason to be exactly. Uh and
Speaker 2: and and you can't approach that with the idea that
Speaker 2: every encounter, if you have one, there's going to be
Speaker 2: some kind of aggression involved. I think people, and I
Speaker 2: think some people it's more I think some people. I'm
Speaker 2: thinking some people are more in tune to wildlife in general,
Speaker 2: and maybe even the crypticide because when Melissa had her
Speaker 2: experience that night with the sounds she was hearing and
Speaker 2: got nauseated and everything else. Everybody's got the brain, everybody's
Speaker 2: got brain waves, and maybe some people are more susceptive
Speaker 2: to picking up different lives and animals. I mean, even
Speaker 2: even with dogs and cats. People can read with something's
Speaker 2: wrong with your animals. Your animals can read something's wrong
Speaker 2: with You have to have the time there's a connection
Speaker 2: there and be it, whether it's it's it's not across
Speaker 2: the board one hundred percent from one person to the next.
Speaker 2: But I think everybody's got those different possibilities based on
Speaker 2: your chemical makeup, what kind of connection you're going to
Speaker 2: have with anything in the given environment that you're in. Right,
Speaker 2: But again that's all things. There's racist questions with her
Speaker 2: experience and then the knocks and then the stuff you
Speaker 2: find out there that could have been people made location wise.
Speaker 2: That's why I like getting off the beaten path. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't like walking along trails because people they like
Speaker 2: to play hopes center in the woods too, h a
Speaker 2: lot of them nowadays and not deep wood hunters Uh,
Speaker 2: there're goes maybe fifty to hundred yards in the woods
Speaker 2: as the far as they're going to go to hunt.
Speaker 2: That's why I getting off the beaten path because as
Speaker 2: deep as I can where people normally don't go and
Speaker 2: maybe might have some game trails, but you're not going
Speaker 2: to have like hunter trails, you know. Being so right,
Speaker 2: it's what look like for the most part.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I told Daniel one the last podcast
Speaker 3: that he had with me on it, I told him that,
Speaker 3: you know, if you ever want to have an experience
Speaker 3: an encounter with a cryptid, whether it's bigfoot or dog
Speaker 3: man or whatever you want to call them, out there,
Speaker 3: that's out there, because we all know there's more than
Speaker 3: just bigfoot out there, at least from my aspect of
Speaker 3: it with my people. But if you ever want to
Speaker 3: have an encounter, the best way to go to it
Speaker 3: is to go with good intentions. Because you know, the
Speaker 3: the forced people that the tribe that we call them
Speaker 3: of the force people have a sixth sense to know
Speaker 3: that when somebody's going to show up or somebody's going
Speaker 3: to arrive at their location, so they expect you before
Speaker 3: you even know that you're going. And also if you
Speaker 3: want to have an encounter, you gotta You can't just
Speaker 3: keep your eyes focused.
Speaker 2: On the ground around you.
Speaker 3: You need to you need to focus on the tree tops,
Speaker 3: you need to focus on the caves, You need to
Speaker 3: focus on the upper ridge lines, because that's where you're
Speaker 3: going to have your most activity or encounters, because they're
Speaker 3: not going to come down to you until they feel
Speaker 3: that it's safe enough to do. So they're not going
Speaker 3: to come down to you at.
Speaker 2: Your camp.
Speaker 3: Alone. Let's say, Okay, there's going to be at least
Speaker 3: three of them that are going to approach your camp
Speaker 3: from different sides and different vantage points. So and that's
Speaker 3: just something that they've learned from the indigenous people, and
Speaker 3: the indigenous people have learned from watching them and interacting
Speaker 3: with them. So you know, it's kind of a you know,
Speaker 3: a learnings thing back and forth. So you know, whenever
Speaker 3: you have an encounter with one, you can rest assured
Speaker 3: there's at least two others around.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, It's just like being a midlitary when we're
Speaker 2: goloud to do drills and basically field duty. Sometimes it's
Speaker 2: called a bounding overwatch. It's the same thing you go
Speaker 2: out on the team two or three or four people
Speaker 2: at the most and one to move up while the
Speaker 2: others watched and no one to move up. Whether it's
Speaker 2: called a bounding overwatch as you're moving around, whether you're
Speaker 2: doing the circuit destroy mission or whatever the case may be,
Speaker 2: or just observing, you know, getting intel of stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Who's to say they can't be doing the same thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, why do you? Why do you? That could
Speaker 2: be a way that's so secretive that the very few
Speaker 2: ones that get lucky enough to see one. It's fortunate
Speaker 2: in my mind, but typically it's not going to happen
Speaker 2: because it's we go out to camp to relax, camp
Speaker 2: for the camaraderie, camp to be out in the woods,
Speaker 2: and then camp to if it comes about while we're
Speaker 2: doing the research. I mean, that's not what's so focused
Speaker 2: on camping. That's part of it. But I want to
Speaker 2: relax on them out there. And you both said before
Speaker 2: you go out there with an open mind. Now with
Speaker 2: that intent, because everything you're gonna see at that point
Speaker 2: you're gonna overanalyze and it's gonna become what it's not, basically,
Speaker 2: is what I'm trying to say. Yeah, I mean that's
Speaker 2: that's why we like getting out of the mount Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's interesting out there, and uh, you all keep it real,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna keep it real for you too if
Speaker 2: I'm out there, because I'm not gonna be run up
Speaker 2: with I look my hair on fire, saying oh yeah
Speaker 2: that that that that's a big put stuff. Now, I
Speaker 2: want proof, exactly. I got my there a normal proof.
Speaker 2: I've had my experiences and I've had my own imagination
Speaker 2: play tricks on me too, because you think about stuff too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you see the shadows moving and stuff all the time.
Speaker 2: And then and I calls a couple myself, and that's
Speaker 2: why I back up. I think about now two or
Speaker 2: three people don't hear and see the same thing at
Speaker 2: the same time before to be once a matter nation exactly.
Speaker 2: My dad took one encounter paranormal to his grave and
Speaker 2: over the years, I'm never this from the seventies. Over
Speaker 2: the years, I never could get him to admit that
Speaker 2: night ever happened. I imagination is.
Speaker 3: A very powerful thing. It really is imagination.
Speaker 2: Because me and my brother Brian heard the same thing
Speaker 2: went down to the Golvin Dad based on what was going
Speaker 2: on down in the basement, which nothing became of when
Speaker 2: he went to check. But three people don't hear the
Speaker 2: same thing with the dog involved. We had a dog
Speaker 2: involved that night for it to be an imagination, But
Speaker 2: he never would admit to it. He didn't want to
Speaker 2: get out of this comfort zone that that night even
Speaker 2: took place. But me and Brian talked about it all
Speaker 2: the time because we were we were part of it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, it's it's all interesting. I've always
Speaker 2: had that fascination with from the Bible what goes on.
Speaker 2: That's why I got problem going to churches. There's too
Speaker 2: many churches and a lot of them in it for just
Speaker 2: for the money.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: I'm just conscious about stuff like that anymore. I Mean,
Speaker 2: my guard's always up. Yeah, it's always up when it
Speaker 2: comes to churches. Not that I'm not religious. People like
Speaker 2: to take it that way, but if you look at
Speaker 2: what's going on, No.
Speaker 1: Well, well it's funny you say that, because the one
Speaker 1: thing that comes to mind is I personally, I believe
Speaker 1: anyone that wants to go to church avoid churches that
Speaker 1: produce entertainment. Church is not for entertainment, and that's that's
Speaker 1: That's the big thing about a lot of these big
Speaker 1: megachurches and all these ones that produce thousands of people.
Speaker 1: They will entertain the crowd just to keep you coming back.
Speaker 1: That's not what you should be in church for.
Speaker 2: Living in mansions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know I can't. I can't help them.
Speaker 3: Refer back to what my father used to tell me.
Speaker 3: You know, why would you want to go inside a
Speaker 3: building to be with your creator when your creator built
Speaker 3: the cathedral of the pines and the beautiful mountains and
Speaker 3: the sky.
Speaker 2: You know, so you know man's input. That's man's input
Speaker 2: to take control of whatever they want to take control of,
Speaker 2: to get their following to be able to do whatever
Speaker 2: they want to do. Yep, exactly. Uh yeah, I've always
Speaker 2: had problems with that. Well, her one of her old
Speaker 2: preachers one time, first day I went to church with
Speaker 2: her over here, first day I went, and he says, mankind,
Speaker 2: they've been around no longer ten thousand years. That's when
Speaker 2: reading the balance that wait a minute here, come on, now,
Speaker 2: come on. That turned me off right there, you know.
Speaker 2: But people sitting around here shaking their hands like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right, you know, no more ten thousand now, come on,
Speaker 2: give me a break. You know, I'm getting I'm getting
Speaker 2: off topic.
Speaker 1: Care well, no, no, no, you're fine. I've actually had
Speaker 1: discussions about that in other discussions in the past. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, you've got anthropologists, you've got all these scientists
Speaker 1: out there. The one thing that puzzles me is first
Speaker 1: of all sciences and say you know, all the especially
Speaker 1: when it comes to relating to all these certain different
Speaker 1: types of species, even mankind one hundred million years ago
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: That's like to me personally is just the million to
Speaker 1: hear million. It just that does not add up to
Speaker 1: me with everything I've dug into and research.
Speaker 3: And that's just like the population explosion. How they say
Speaker 3: there's eight point six billion people that live on the
Speaker 3: planet Earth now, well right where I mean, populations have
Speaker 3: been declining. Japan is over three hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 3: short every year from increasing, and the Americas we barely
Speaker 3: make it even with our you know, with the births
Speaker 3: and stuff of children. So you know, populations, if anything
Speaker 3: on the planet should be decreasing, not increasing.
Speaker 1: Well, you're right, because China, for example, China may have
Speaker 1: a population control They don't allow you to have so
Speaker 1: so many kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that used to be that way. It used to
Speaker 2: be they can have one couple had one child many
Speaker 2: years ago, and that was expect for many, many years,
Speaker 2: but that since been lifted. I don't think there's any
Speaker 2: more restriction on that. Uh, that was lifted years ago.
Speaker 2: I don't even think they got like a two or
Speaker 2: three been going down too. And that's what China's worried about,
Speaker 2: that they've got to have their population and to maintain
Speaker 2: some kind of edge as far as manpower and all
Speaker 2: the other stuff as years go by and stuff like yeah,
Speaker 2: but yeah, you are right, Daniel, years ago they had
Speaker 2: one child, one child living.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, see, I haven't looked into any of
Speaker 1: that in a while. Like so, yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's like like you said, I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's still going on today, But it sounds like I
Speaker 1: feel like it wasn't that long ago. Of course, when
Speaker 1: I say it wasn't that long ago, shoot, time's flying by.
Speaker 1: I mean it is a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: interesting things happened for me. A lot happened back in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen for me, and shoot, that's eight years already.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, I know I'm
Speaker 1: younger than everybody on here right now. I mean I
Speaker 1: was born in eighty, so I mean I'll be forty
Speaker 1: five at March. I know I'm the baby here.
Speaker 2: But that's questions as far as what's going on in
Speaker 2: this world, because I mean, not just a Bible. You
Speaker 2: go back to the Ananaki and before them, the cave drawings,
Speaker 2: and I mean there's too much documentation just to be
Speaker 2: written off. If somebody had an imagination, Well, you can't
Speaker 2: have that kind of imagination with what stuff I'm trying
Speaker 2: to talk about here without sining or experiencing it. You
Speaker 2: can't draw a degg On man in a spacesuit eight
Speaker 2: thousand years ago on the rock wall without even having
Speaker 2: some kind of concept of what that would look like,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Now, I've seen a lot of that on some of
Speaker 1: these documentaries on the Histon channel or whatever channels they
Speaker 1: show up on, and you know, so I'm seeing this,
Speaker 1: and I mean I see people post stuff like this
Speaker 1: on social media. So when I see it on social media,
Speaker 1: I don't take it for granted.
Speaker 2: You know, well I.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't say that, I should say I don't know what
Speaker 1: to think of it, because again, it's social media. You know.
Speaker 1: So I'll get cheerious and I'll try to do some research.
Speaker 1: I'll dig into some of this stuff. And like the
Speaker 1: shoot I've seen, I forget what show it was on,
Speaker 1: where these guys were doing some digging down in Okay mind.
Speaker 1: I think it was Kentucky. I don't know how long
Speaker 1: ago this was, but it was I scene where they
Speaker 1: were digging into old mine and they came across these
Speaker 1: ancient coins, ancient coins. I believe it was somewhere in Kentucky.
Speaker 1: I don't get wrong. I could be wrong on the location,
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure it was Kentucky. But they were
Speaker 1: digging along and they came across these ancient coins, and
Speaker 1: on the coins had these images. What the heck is
Speaker 1: this images of? I don't know. I'm trying to recall
Speaker 1: what I've seen. They looked almost alien like, nothing that
Speaker 1: we would know that belongs to this world. So that's
Speaker 1: just it.
Speaker 3: That's just it, Daniel.
Speaker 2: We don't know what belongs to this world, right, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, honestly, we don't. We have no concept of what
Speaker 3: to expect that we can find.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not I'm not an expert on Native American
Speaker 2: background and stuff, but here hearing people talk while see
Speaker 2: on TV. I mean they go back generations, many many generations,
Speaker 2: and the stories are passed down. The stories had to
Speaker 2: originate from somewhere and once you know, take encounters and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, from aliens to Bigfoot or whatever the
Speaker 2: case may be. People just don't sit around think of
Speaker 2: stuff up, you know. And now with this new telescope
Speaker 2: up there, everybody's saying everything's starting with a big bang,
Speaker 2: so many billions of years ago. But now with that
Speaker 2: new telescope that got up there, they're finding universes that's
Speaker 2: older than ours. So that means if our big bang
Speaker 2: happened here to be supposed to be the source of everything,
Speaker 2: then why is this other stuff billions and billions of
Speaker 2: years older than were our time frame of the Big Bang? Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I want to. I mean many questions to
Speaker 2: be raised, you know, right, the question to answer the
Speaker 2: simple question. First you got the big bank, Well, how
Speaker 2: did the big bang start? Well, and all the gases
Speaker 2: of molecules got together, Well, where did they come from?
Speaker 2: Where did you come from to even start it right?
Speaker 1: And how did they become a solid.
Speaker 2: Exactly? I mean there's too many questions. I don't think
Speaker 2: will probably never have the answer to until we meet
Speaker 2: the Good Lord. Well.
Speaker 3: You know, one thing you got to understand too, though,
Speaker 3: and the one thing that I always talk about too though,
Speaker 3: is the well, no matter what you call them, I
Speaker 3: call them the controllers of this world. Some people call
Speaker 3: them the Illuminati, the Reptilians or whatnot, the onnanak I mean,
Speaker 3: you call them whatever you want, but they are the
Speaker 3: ones that set the precedence of what's being taught in
Speaker 3: our schools, what's being taught in our universities. They're the
Speaker 3: ones that that deal with all the banking institutions, including
Speaker 3: UH investment groups like black Rock, Vanguard and have you
Speaker 3: know some Berkshire Hathaway are the first three that come
Speaker 3: to mind. And you know, their agenda is not set
Speaker 3: to humanity's agenda or what humanity is to to, you know,
Speaker 3: expire to Okay, aspiring to something from free will is
Speaker 3: one thing, but when you're being controlled through your free
Speaker 3: will with you know, I've always said, like, you know,
Speaker 3: the Roman circus, you know, the Romans used to whenever
Speaker 3: they're they're groups of of their you know, Populace were
Speaker 3: getting to the point where they were going to rebel
Speaker 3: against you know, the Roman leaders and the military. They
Speaker 3: would always throw out the Roman circus, and they would
Speaker 3: throw out the gladiator fights, and they would throw out
Speaker 3: the lions and all that in the arenas to distract
Speaker 3: from their real agenda. And we are basically seeing that
Speaker 3: same effect happen today.
Speaker 1: Yes we are.
Speaker 3: We have Super Bowls, we have basketball games, we have drones,
Speaker 3: we have rock we have rock concerts.
Speaker 2: You know, we have rock concerts.
Speaker 3: We have Hollywood or Hollyweird, as I like to call it.
Speaker 3: There's so many different things. So the Roman circus hasn't stuck,
Speaker 3: it just changed.
Speaker 2: Well, you got the one that's getting ready to leave
Speaker 2: office here without mentioning any names, just now, all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, he's concerned that you got certain people of
Speaker 2: the hierarchy that's one to control everything. But that's already
Speaker 2: the case. Exactly. They keep feeding information bit a bit.
Speaker 2: Somebody wouldn't that for him to say that exactly, he
Speaker 2: ain't gonna think it. I'll tell you that right now.
Speaker 1: I like to know, is it him or is it
Speaker 1: somebody behind him that's releasing these criminals? Right now, he's
Speaker 1: partnering all these criminals.
Speaker 2: It's hard to say. But my viewpoint is he's just
Speaker 2: give him paperwork design exactly. That's my opinion. You don't
Speaker 2: need to get no trouble.
Speaker 1: On are right.
Speaker 2: Executive orders from day one? Yeah, I mean he was
Speaker 2: trying to what am I finding her? Okay, I'm done
Speaker 2: with that. I'm finished talking about all that now. Anyway,
Speaker 2: let's get back to what we were talking about.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know what Daniel thinks. Daniel, have you
Speaker 3: done any research on the oni and since our art
Speaker 3: topic discussion last time?
Speaker 1: Not necessarily I've looked into it. I've heard very little
Speaker 1: about it, to be honest with you.
Speaker 3: But you know, it can be made.
Speaker 2: It can be made.
Speaker 3: A case of the Onaki could be considered the fallen angels.
Speaker 3: To tell you the truth, anybody, if anybody follows any
Speaker 3: part of the Bible, they would know that the fallen
Speaker 3: angels were the ones that were, you know, separated from
Speaker 3: the heavens, and they they are the ones, you know,
Speaker 3: that disclosed.
Speaker 2: To humanity.
Speaker 3: You know, all the all the things to to basically
Speaker 3: bring us up to the modern age. The education they
Speaker 3: they taught us, the uh the arts of of herbal
Speaker 3: herbal medications, and you know, all kinds of magic stuff
Speaker 3: and spell casting and sciences and stuff, you know, which
Speaker 3: were considered to.
Speaker 2: Be the Anaki. Okay.
Speaker 3: Now, the Onanaki were originally found through the Samerian text,
Speaker 3: which is the oldest cuneiform in the world ever, ever
Speaker 3: written language ever found and cuneiform was also question yea.
Speaker 1: The Ananachi are we were like what we call them?
Speaker 1: Or are they also known as the uh nuhle? There
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 3: It's been my studies in my research. I'm not sure
Speaker 3: how David feels about this, but through all my my
Speaker 3: vast research into it is that the on Aaki were
Speaker 3: separate from the Gigee. The Gigee were the ones that
Speaker 3: the Onanaki created, which could have been interpreted as as
Speaker 3: giants or nephelin for that matter. They've also it's it's
Speaker 3: also been a correlation to that the on Anaki might
Speaker 3: even be the Reptilian race, you know, because they say that,
Speaker 3: you know, the onok airing the the Reptilians are are
Speaker 3: almost like a gargoyle looking type of a of a
Speaker 3: of a an entity, okay, and you know some of
Speaker 3: them have wings and some of them don't and all this,
Speaker 3: But at the same time, you know, the Onaki were
Speaker 3: said to be over twenty feet tall. Every every every
Speaker 3: type of of of carvings or or depictions of the
Speaker 3: Onanaki I have you know, investigated, have shown them being
Speaker 3: three times to four times taller than humans and with ways.
Speaker 2: Right exactly exactly, And.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know it's hard to say there has
Speaker 3: to be a lot more research done concerning the Anaki
Speaker 3: part of history. Even if it's our history. We might
Speaker 3: not even be the the beings that were quote unquote
Speaker 3: I use air quotes by the way. We might not
Speaker 3: be the remnants of the beings that the Onanaki were
Speaker 3: supposedly have created. They could have initially created the Reptilian race,
Speaker 3: or they could have been the Reptilian race. We don't
Speaker 3: know for sure one hundred percent. So you know, more
Speaker 3: research is needed in that area, definitely.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, as far as giants go, I mean the Bible
Speaker 1: and the Old Testament, it's either an exodus or levitigus.
Speaker 1: I don't recall right off my head. Okay, where back
Speaker 1: when Joshua, uh you know, led the battles, you know,
Speaker 1: they went through valleys and and the scripture does closely
Speaker 1: say there were giants in those days.
Speaker 3: Exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: In fact, if you if you read about the apocryphies
Speaker 3: that were missing from the Bible, you'll know that the
Speaker 3: Book of Giants is missing from the Bible, and that
Speaker 3: explains a lot more in detail about the giants. So
Speaker 3: you know, yes, there were giants. I mean, you wouldn't
Speaker 3: have David with his sling and stone and Goliath for
Speaker 3: for no reason. I mean, that's not somebody didn't just
Speaker 3: pull that out of their ass and say, here you go,
Speaker 3: here's a story for a fairy tale. To me, the
Speaker 3: Bible is is not only a doctor of a a
Speaker 3: way to live your life spiritually, but it's also a
Speaker 3: guide's right. It's a hand guide or a handbook, just
Speaker 3: like you would get from any employer. You know, about
Speaker 3: how to live your life, about how to treat people,
Speaker 3: about how to treat the environment, and what to do
Speaker 3: and what not to do throughout your walk in this world.
Speaker 2: So you know, it.
Speaker 3: Helps us make a better connection to when we leave
Speaker 3: this body and move on to the next level of life,
Speaker 3: whether you call it heaven, whether you call it whatever
Speaker 3: you want to call it. I was always taught that
Speaker 3: there were seven levels of heaven and the seventh level
Speaker 3: is where God's throne is.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: And you know, most people you know, go to like
Speaker 3: the fifth or the or the sixth level of heaven,
Speaker 3: they don't actually get to see God's throne. But there
Speaker 3: going to be one hundred and forty four thousand that
Speaker 3: actually get to see God's throne, you know.
Speaker 2: And you know.
Speaker 3: That that in itself, you know, is kind of questionable too,
Speaker 3: because I've had visions too, and I've told David and
Speaker 3: Melissa about this around the out back of our place
Speaker 3: here the one time when they were out here about
Speaker 3: the vision I had about going into the sun and
Speaker 3: being with all of my ancestors and all of my
Speaker 3: past you know, four legged you know, children were there
Speaker 3: and stuff, and how how it felt like peace, you know,
Speaker 3: and you know, come to find out that, you know,
Speaker 3: through research, after talking to them and having that vision
Speaker 3: that summer. The the thing now is the theory now
Speaker 3: is that the sun is plasma and strictly one hundred
Speaker 3: percent plasma, and plasma is another way to create portals,
Speaker 3: So you know, was is the sun actually? You know
Speaker 3: somehow spiritually when we when we leave this body, or
Speaker 3: whether we astro project ourselves from our body some way
Speaker 3: we can get to a higher dimension. It possibly could be,
Speaker 3: you know, we don't know. So how does it How
Speaker 3: does it get to be ninety to one hundred degrees
Speaker 3: or more on Earth during the sunny day when the
Speaker 3: sun's over what six hundred and eighty million miles away?
Speaker 3: That doesn't make.
Speaker 1: Sense now now you brought you brought on portals that
Speaker 1: it brought up to my mind that NASA, NASA, you know,
Speaker 1: we know, we all, we're all familiar with NASA. That
Speaker 1: rock you know, shoots our rockets up in near the space. Well,
Speaker 1: one thing I read upon and I don I shouldn't
Speaker 1: say I've done some study. I'm Willis did a lot
Speaker 1: of reading on this. But NASA does speak about portals,
Speaker 1: and but not the portals that we think of when
Speaker 1: we watch a sci fi movie or you know, stuff
Speaker 1: like that. But they speak more about what we call
Speaker 1: wormholes or it doesn't work, it necessarily doesn't take us
Speaker 1: into another world. But they do speak about portals, but
Speaker 1: they more refer to them again as wormholes.
Speaker 3: So yeah, basically, yeah, basically a wormhole. You take a
Speaker 3: piece of paper and you fold it over, and you
Speaker 3: know that gap in between the two levels of paper.
Speaker 3: They create a connection, which is the wormhole, and CERN
Speaker 3: is one that has been doing a lot of that
Speaker 3: that type of stuff, which ironically, if you if you
Speaker 3: know the Bible, you know that the city that Satan
Speaker 3: claims as his own where he where he is is Geneva, Switzerland,
Speaker 3: and what's in Geneva, Switzerland? But CERN.
Speaker 2: Drunk aliter exactly yep, exactly.
Speaker 3: So you know, I mean there's there's a lot of
Speaker 3: different connections you can make to what's happening today in
Speaker 3: our world with portals and stuff, and CERN has been
Speaker 3: doing doing stuff without and getting anybody's permission to do it.
Speaker 3: I mean, who gave them permission to jeopardize the safety
Speaker 3: of every living being on this planet? So you know,
Speaker 3: I mean that's just a you know, that's for another day.
Speaker 3: But you know, just again there's the connection to the
Speaker 3: Bible and to portals again, you.
Speaker 2: Know connection what's going on now has to lead from
Speaker 2: the past exactly exactly, because I mean, when you get
Speaker 2: into the physics aspect of it, when you're talking several
Speaker 2: thousand years to go, even with the pyramids it's built,
Speaker 2: and you get behind the physics of everything, you can't
Speaker 2: tell me that the people back then, I'm talking normal
Speaker 2: human people had the capacity to figure out how far
Speaker 2: constellations are measurements between them. Yet they will build pyramids
Speaker 2: and stuff to the exact specifications of constellations distance size alignments.
Speaker 2: Where did that knowledge come from? And it's more than
Speaker 2: one besides the Pyramids of Egypt. A lot of people
Speaker 2: don't realize it. You got the same setups throughout several
Speaker 2: continents on this planet of pyramids, and they all pertained
Speaker 2: a different A lot of its pertained the pity system exactly.
Speaker 2: And that's where they think where possibility are everything originated
Speaker 2: with maybe with other beings coming from that system here.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's connections out there somewhere. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: just too much there, with too many questions for everything
Speaker 2: to be coincidence.
Speaker 1: Where's all Elder Einstein when you need.
Speaker 2: Them him off too? He come up all these theories
Speaker 2: and stuff that blew him off back in the day,
Speaker 2: But now predictions has.
Speaker 1: Come in to light. Yeah, a lot of his came
Speaker 1: from a young age too.
Speaker 2: So just like in the Bible, when when we start
Speaker 2: reading the Bible, how was it that people back then
Speaker 2: many of them was living several centuries years of age,
Speaker 2: and then over the years the age started to decline.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, Noah lived at what nine hundred years old?
Speaker 2: At other people that maybe others from other dimensions or
Speaker 2: other galaxies come here in the bread with which is
Speaker 2: already here, didn't have that long life span, and then
Speaker 2: that's when the ages started to decline. At that point possibility,
Speaker 2: I'm only saying yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's biblical time. Yes, they had
Speaker 1: diseases and everything, but then again, look at what we
Speaker 1: have today, Lord time, we have too many chemicals in
Speaker 1: our foods that produce cancer and lead to other things.
Speaker 2: Now, age was declining long before we started putting chemicals
Speaker 2: in the food.
Speaker 1: Well, that's true, we just got stupid.
Speaker 2: There's always be that one time frame when the Bible
Speaker 2: is being written. We don't know how long the end
Speaker 2: of Thralls and all of them lived back then. I
Speaker 2: don't think they've lived for centuries. We least science haven't
Speaker 2: showed that yet. It is all originated around the Bible.
Speaker 2: The Bible time frame when they started putting things in
Speaker 2: words with Adam and Eve and so on and so forth,
Speaker 2: and then Adam and Eve had and then they took wise,
Speaker 2: Where did the wives come from?
Speaker 1: Right? Well, a lot. That's the thing. A lot of
Speaker 1: people don't want to accept this, but I believe there
Speaker 1: was a time where what's the word I'm looking for?
Speaker 1: Things were different back then where yeah, crap, I.
Speaker 2: Can't did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you? What do you? What do you
Speaker 1: call it? When relatives would read amongst each other bring
Speaker 1: park Yes, yes, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that was an occurrence. A lot of people don't
Speaker 1: want to think about it, but that was an occurrence
Speaker 1: that actually took place, went.
Speaker 2: Back and another rule that did that. It's a bloodline.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know that's the one thing that I
Speaker 3: about too. That's one thing I talked about too, was
Speaker 3: a lot of the royalty bloodline and how well back
Speaker 3: in eighteen I think it was eighteen twenty two or
Speaker 3: eighteen thirty three that the royal bloodline of Europe was
Speaker 3: was broke. They were literally busted destitute, and along came
Speaker 3: a certain family named the Rothschilds that actually said, well,
Speaker 3: we'll fund your royal family, your whole lives who Rockefellers,
Speaker 3: of course, are the banking industry that we know today
Speaker 3: and probably going to be the banking industry of the
Speaker 3: digital dollar of tomorrow. And they said, you give us
Speaker 3: the breeding rights to breed with your bloodline so we
Speaker 3: can be part of the royalty, you know, of Europe,
Speaker 3: And unf fortunately they agreed to it. And that's why,
Speaker 3: that's why how the Rothschilds actually became pretty prominent in Europe.
Speaker 3: All three of the sons of the Rothschilds went to
Speaker 3: different areas of the world and opened up their own
Speaker 3: banking institutions, but worked together before a central banking system
Speaker 3: was actually desised. So, you know, I mean, there's so
Speaker 3: much we don't know about our history that they keep hidden.
Speaker 3: I mean, how many people knew that that the now
Speaker 3: King of England is the sole remaining blood tied air
Speaker 3: to Vlad the Impaler, you know, I mean, it's just
Speaker 3: you know, he is. He is the one that holds
Speaker 3: all the rights to Vlad the Impaler's castle and and
Speaker 3: all of his his basically his entire state.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it when that name is brought up,
Speaker 1: Lad Dampaler. Reason why because I am a big time
Speaker 1: vampire fan. I love vampires. I know this kind of
Speaker 1: kind of off topic, but as you.
Speaker 2: Never watched Yeah, that's so.
Speaker 1: If you ever want to watch a really awesome movie,
Speaker 1: if you've never seen it before, you need to watch
Speaker 1: uh uh, Dracula Untold. Of course, the movie is based
Speaker 1: off The movie is based off of lad Dan Paler
Speaker 1: how he became Draft Blow.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: So it's a good movie. If you haven't seen it,
Speaker 1: you got to check that out. One of my favorite
Speaker 1: vampire movies.
Speaker 2: H Well, we'll think about it, Nick get in the
Speaker 2: break tonight, we're talking about everything else.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's okay, that's okay. I like that though. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I think other people appreciate that when they
Speaker 1: when they go to listen to this, So I surely
Speaker 1: will all the comfort zone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is what it is.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you know, there's so many correlations
Speaker 3: you can make to the past and the present no
Speaker 3: matter which angle you look at it. You know, it's
Speaker 3: like I've always said that when we the reason Native Americans,
Speaker 3: the reason the indigenous people like my people sat around
Speaker 3: the drum in a circle or around the fire in
Speaker 3: a circle, was so we could all have different perspective
Speaker 3: or different angles during a conversation about something of importance.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's like I always say, you put
Speaker 3: a drum in front of somebody sitting in a circle,
Speaker 3: and you have twenty people sitting around it in a circle,
Speaker 3: and everybody's gonna view that drum in a in a
Speaker 3: separate place. They're gonna they're gonna see certain cracks in
Speaker 3: the drum, or a certain imperfection in the drum, or
Speaker 3: a certain non imperfection in the drum because of the
Speaker 3: different ways that they're position positioned in a circle around it.
Speaker 3: And that's the way we need to look at everything
Speaker 3: in our lives today. We need to look at it
Speaker 3: with that same exact way of analyzing, questioning everything we do.
Speaker 2: Many many don't want to live by that standard straight
Speaker 2: and narrow. They've got their own comfort zone they want
Speaker 2: to live in, and don't take them out and live it.
Speaker 1: Have you ever asked yourself or and this goes for
Speaker 1: anyone that's listening later on, Well, one thing I thought
Speaker 1: about this earlier while we were all talking and bringing
Speaker 1: up different things. So I had so many different things
Speaker 1: come to my mind on different things. But the one
Speaker 1: thing that's sticking in my mind right now is you
Speaker 1: ever ask yourself where the different tribes and languages of
Speaker 1: different people came about. I mean, if we look back
Speaker 1: during biblical times, have you ever any is anyone here
Speaker 1: familiar with them? In the story in the Bible about
Speaker 1: the Tower of Dabble and how that came about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was it was a curse because I forget the
Speaker 1: king's name, but he was, Yeah, I believe, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was the king. He raised his arrow to the heavens
Speaker 1: and it was his way of like whatever he was rebelling.
Speaker 1: And when he did that, it's like the whole city,
Speaker 1: everybody that's out that lived around there, and everybody became one,
Speaker 1: from one language to multiple languages. Nobody understood each other.
Speaker 1: But then when the time came everybody gathered. It was
Speaker 1: all these different groups formed, Okay, we understand each other,
Speaker 1: let's stay together. This group over here we understand each other.
Speaker 1: Let's stay together. And they all went to separate ways,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, and I know.
Speaker 2: That's the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a way to keep people separated, is.
Speaker 2: What it is.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Even even the Anaki have a story in in their
Speaker 3: their writings about Inky and ill ill Uh. The older
Speaker 3: brother was Eel that was in charge of everything, and
Speaker 3: Anky was was present here on earth and mar Duke,
Speaker 3: which was the son of I believe, the older brother.
Speaker 3: They all ward had war and stuff, and Marduke was
Speaker 3: x you know, ex you know, made it from from
Speaker 3: being part of their community anymore and excommunicated, I guess,
Speaker 3: is what she would say. And Inky when he he
Speaker 3: lost the first the first war they call the war
Speaker 3: in heavens or whatever.
Speaker 2: To eil ill Ill.
Speaker 3: You know, he was told to remove a certain something
Speaker 3: from the DNA of humanity at the time, and that's
Speaker 3: why we have a certain set of number of chromosomes
Speaker 3: in humanity now and we have several that are missing.
Speaker 3: And it kind of correlates with that part of the
Speaker 3: Bible too when you think about it. A lot of it,
Speaker 3: you know, can can almost be compared as as the
Speaker 3: same thing happening, but just you know, said a different way,
Speaker 3: you know, because maybe back then they didn't know how
Speaker 3: to say it. Maybe today that you know, since we
Speaker 3: have all these languages that separate humanity and all these
Speaker 3: religious beliefs that separate humanity, maybe that's the thing. Maybe
Speaker 3: we need to get rid of all that and concentrate
Speaker 3: on trying to see what we can do working together, right,
Speaker 3: So you know, I mean there's there's no rhyme or
Speaker 3: reason for there to be over what almost two thousand
Speaker 3: different languages in the world.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, it's crazy, ain't it.
Speaker 3: I mean, to think about it, that's just that's just
Speaker 3: a big, big way to separate humanity from one another,
Speaker 3: because I mean, the second one.
Speaker 2: Would be the religion thing, you.
Speaker 1: Know, right, Oh, yeah, for sure. But I mean, just
Speaker 1: to think about that, I mean, with what you're talking about,
Speaker 1: Just to think about that. At one point in time,
Speaker 1: everybody understood each other. There was one language. We don't
Speaker 1: know if that was English or whatever it was, but
Speaker 1: everybody understood each other from that one from the beginning.
Speaker 1: And then there wasn't back, you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: over the Tower of Babble and the curse that got
Speaker 1: that was put out upon them, all those separate languages
Speaker 1: spread out and everybody went their own way with their
Speaker 1: own group.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like I said too though in previous
Speaker 3: podcasts too, that you know, at one time, Sasquatch and uh,
Speaker 3: the indigenous people of America used to be able to
Speaker 3: communicate with one another verbally.
Speaker 2: We used to speak each other's language.
Speaker 3: There was a time back in the old days where
Speaker 3: Sasquatch would come down from the high ridge lines of
Speaker 3: the mountains out in Washington and would would actually have
Speaker 3: like games with the native people, the indigenous people where
Speaker 3: we would wrestle each other. They're young men, would wrestle
Speaker 3: our young men, and and we would you know, just
Speaker 3: have fun interacting and then we would have a feast
Speaker 3: and stuff and trade and all that with them. And
Speaker 3: you know, one time when they came down and we
Speaker 3: did the games and stuff, something tragic happened. The Sasquatch,
Speaker 3: the young Sasquatch accidentally killed a young Native brave that
Speaker 3: was him and he didn't mean to kill him, you know,
Speaker 3: he just it was an accident. And the Native people
Speaker 3: understood that. We understood that. You know, we saw you know,
Speaker 3: their reaction because they never really experienced killing somebody except
Speaker 3: in defense of their family unit. Okay, as far as
Speaker 3: accidental death, they never experienced that. So we noticed that
Speaker 3: they got sad, and you know, we're really really you know,
Speaker 3: regretting that that that happened. And you know, from that death,
Speaker 3: you know, we we we told them it was it
Speaker 3: was okay, you know. And after that young native was
Speaker 3: was buried, this the Sasquatch never came back down again,
Speaker 3: that that that communication was lost between us and the
Speaker 3: Sasquatch tribes of Washington, you know. And and this is
Speaker 3: oral tradition that was passed down from generation to generation.
Speaker 3: And to this day, there's still some I guess, hieroglyphics
Speaker 3: or stuff or drawings on the sides of of cave
Speaker 3: walls and canyon walls depicting that thing. In fact, I
Speaker 3: think some people have seen it before where it's a
Speaker 3: you know, shows a Sasquatch with red lights coming out
Speaker 3: of its eyes, long hair, standing there, and it shows
Speaker 3: a little one standing next to him, you know. And
Speaker 3: you know, that's that's the the indigenous people's view of
Speaker 3: why we lost that communication with them. You know, it's
Speaker 3: the same principle, the same reason for why humanity has
Speaker 3: lost the communication by all the different languages being changed.
Speaker 3: It's that same principle, you know. And you know, a
Speaker 3: lot of people don't make that correlation that you know,
Speaker 3: maybe just maybe the Sasquatch is that lost force tribe
Speaker 3: that we once interacted with, you know, that nobody can explain.
Speaker 3: Some some people see them in a glimpse of you know,
Speaker 3: a flash of during the the dusk at night, you know,
Speaker 3: or they see them peeping in, you know, through trees
Speaker 3: and stuff around trees.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: They're still curious about us, but they don't want anything
Speaker 3: to do with us anymore because of that tragedy that
Speaker 3: they learned. Sasquatch never never learned about sorrow from killing
Speaker 3: something outside of their own, from protecting them, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. So when they experienced that sorrow, they
Speaker 3: didn't want to communicate with humanity anymore.
Speaker 2: And that's why we.
Speaker 3: Are where we are today with them, where people just
Speaker 3: get fleeting glimpses of them, or or some people are
Speaker 3: lucky enough to interact with them like I.
Speaker 2: Have over years, you know.
Speaker 3: So I mean, it's it's just the way it is.
Speaker 3: Until we figure out how to fix that sacred hoop
Speaker 3: that was broken all those hundreds and hundreds of years ago,
Speaker 3: we're never going to have that communication again with them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean back in twenty fourteen, and I've shared
Speaker 1: my encounter numerous times on podcasts and elsewhere. But like
Speaker 1: I said, there was six of us, but after observing
Speaker 1: everything that we seen, there were three of them there.
Speaker 1: And keep in mind, as I shared with people in
Speaker 1: the past. I had no idea what we were observing.
Speaker 1: It wasn't until the tallest one moved, made its maneuver
Speaker 1: and turned around to look back at us where I
Speaker 1: was able to see a shape and silhouette of what
Speaker 1: we were looking at. The two smaller ones, the six foot,
Speaker 1: the four foot and the sixth one, all I see
Speaker 1: was eye shine, And the tallest one all we saw
Speaker 1: was eye shine till again it made its maneuver and
Speaker 1: I saw what I saw. There's no denying what I saw,
Speaker 1: but the whole thing, during the whole situation, I mean,
Speaker 1: I I won't forget it. It's just there was nothing
Speaker 1: threatening about the whole situation. I didn't feel no fear
Speaker 1: or I didn't feel scared at all. And that was
Speaker 1: probably because I was with other people. I mean maybe
Speaker 1: if I was alone, it could have been a different scenario.
Speaker 1: I don't know, But based off of what I observed
Speaker 1: and looking at that situation, I honestly believe that they
Speaker 1: were curious of us as we were of them.
Speaker 2: Right you know?
Speaker 1: So, I mean they didn't throw, they didn't pose no threat,
Speaker 1: they didn't make no sound enough of they were dead
Speaker 1: silent exactly. But we we did We did hear them
Speaker 1: when they when they started walking. We heard we heard
Speaker 1: them moving around, we heard the up, we heard the
Speaker 1: cracking them whatever they were stepping on. But that was
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And the one the one thing that I've always experienced too,
Speaker 3: whenever they turned around and looked at me, they didn't
Speaker 3: just turn their head and look at you, you know,
Speaker 3: with their neck. They turned their whole torso at you
Speaker 3: as the walk and looked at you. Because there's well,
Speaker 3: they're so massive that you know, anybody that's that has
Speaker 3: had an encounter with them will tell you firsthand that
Speaker 3: they are so massive that you can't even fathom it.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're looking at something with a shoulder what
Speaker 3: four feet across when they're.
Speaker 1: Full at least. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: You know, so it's like even their kids are like
Speaker 3: bigger than the average man, you know, I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: and I mean my teenage kids. You know, it's an
Speaker 3: incredible thing the experience. But when you're when you're having
Speaker 3: those encounters with them, like me as as a child
Speaker 3: growing up and stuff, it's it's a special type.
Speaker 2: Of a thing.
Speaker 3: I mean it's yeah, it's scary at first because you know,
Speaker 3: you don't know what to expect. But the more you
Speaker 3: see them and the more you see how they're watching you,
Speaker 3: it's almost like they're trying to keep you as a child,
Speaker 3: safe from all harm that could be out in the woods,
Speaker 3: you know. And that's the way I interpreted it growing up.
Speaker 3: And you know, to this day, you know, I still
Speaker 3: have some interaction with them. So it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be curious to find out what happens,
Speaker 3: if you know, if I'm able to get to that
Speaker 3: camp out this.
Speaker 1: Year, oh you know what, we're dragging you there. If
Speaker 1: you like it or not. You bring Tracy with you too.
Speaker 1: We were you know, you know, darn well, we would
Speaker 1: love to have you guys there. We really want you
Speaker 1: guys there.
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure how long I could be there,
Speaker 3: but I could. I could do at least one night
Speaker 3: there and and uh, you know, try to interact with
Speaker 3: whatever's out there, and uh, bring the flute along and
Speaker 3: and whatever else along.
Speaker 2: So but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I got Tracy's reminded me of I
Speaker 3: got a podcast to do.
Speaker 2: So there.
Speaker 3: It's not very seldom, it's very seldom I get to
Speaker 3: talk with David and and.
Speaker 2: It's been fun, Jordan, somebody's got to keep you straight.
Speaker 2: I was gonna actually make a cake, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: But well, she says she's gonna make a cake.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's gonna make a cake like Chase Cake. It's
Speaker 2: called Bill's Crow.
Speaker 1: Well, you start working on it tonight. I'll ride up
Speaker 1: tomorrow morning. You guys may that far away? Yeah? What
Speaker 1: you got that? Oh yeah, yeah, he's he's he's a
Speaker 1: little critter. Yeah, he's a lot of fun. Yeah. He
Speaker 1: had some of my leftover Chinese food. I say, some
Speaker 1: Chinese food for him earlier. I got some takeout and
Speaker 1: I had some porklow mane and some chicken on a stick.
Speaker 1: And he had it before and he loved it, and
Speaker 1: he he was excited. He was excited when I showed
Speaker 1: him what I had some more. So that's what he
Speaker 1: had for dinner tonight. And of course I told her,
Speaker 1: if you eat everything I give you. Yeah, he got
Speaker 1: his ice cream. We got ice cream cones, and we
Speaker 1: give him some a little bit of ice cream and
Speaker 1: a cone and yeah, so yeah, he had he got
Speaker 1: his time me for tonight. Yeah. Yeah, he was supposed
Speaker 1: to go to his other grandmother's house this weekend, but
Speaker 1: of course she backed out again, so we're kind of
Speaker 1: glad that. We're kind of glad that she didn't get
Speaker 1: to take them because we don't care for him being
Speaker 1: over there for various reasons. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, Grandpa's are always the cool ones.
Speaker 1: Well, I was I was trying to think of, like
Speaker 1: I would love to take him somewhere tomorrow. Like I
Speaker 1: was like, it's just there's still so much snow on
Speaker 1: the ground as cold, but I really want to take
Speaker 1: them to a playground. But I was trying to look
Speaker 1: up indoor playgrounds, but there's really not much of that
Speaker 1: anymore going on. Like some Burger sees used to have
Speaker 1: indoor playgrounds, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: Don't they ever have a Chucky Cheese anymore around?
Speaker 1: No, that's that's another thing.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: That would be a perfect because he loves pizza, but
Speaker 1: he would have a ball out of chuck e Cheese.
Speaker 2: Uh hell.
Speaker 1: Yeah. There might There might be one in Fredericksburg actually,
Speaker 1: now that I'm thinking about, because I think I went there. Well,
Speaker 1: I used I took my daughter there when she was
Speaker 1: little because I grew up on the other side of Virginia.
Speaker 1: So I mean, and if I recall, I believe I did.
Speaker 1: I did take Briann and my daughter there when she
Speaker 1: was little to a uh chucky cheese. I don't have
Speaker 1: to look that up. I think it's over in Fredicksburg, Virginia.
Speaker 2: So be careful that afternoon through tomorrow night and.
Speaker 1: The Sunday, well that's what I heard.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Oh, starting Sunday. That's another thing. Yeah, I know this. No,
Speaker 1: I've been watching the weather or that. I think most
Speaker 1: of it might be just slightly to the west of us,
Speaker 1: but where it's supposed to get some extremely cold temperatures.
Speaker 1: I mean talking about one the junigree temperatures.
Speaker 2: So right here is always that's what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my parents, my father was talking. But when I
Speaker 1: told my father about the temperare it's a good thing.
Speaker 1: I just got the oil filled. The gas fills up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have gas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. You gotta go. Who's the podcast you're doing?
Speaker 3: Oh, tonight, I'm doing the end of the Red Rabbit Hole.
Speaker 3: We're gonna be getting in again to uh well, I
Speaker 3: kind of disclosed some of the information.
Speaker 2: Tonight, Daniels.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, we're gonna get into the whole water
Speaker 3: thing again in Geneva, Switzerland and all that and cern
Speaker 3: and basically you know, all all different types of basically
Speaker 3: quantum type of entanglements and stuff, so.
Speaker 2: Will be different.
Speaker 1: Well, William, go ahead, real quick share for those who
Speaker 1: will listen to this later where they could find you
Speaker 1: and listen to your podcast.
Speaker 3: Oh you can find me, uh well, William Nighthawk on
Speaker 3: Facebook and then also Nighthawk High Strangeness podcast channel on
Speaker 3: YouTube and Facebook. And that's pretty much it. I mean,
Speaker 3: I have a Rumble channel and you know and uh
Speaker 3: an x channel, but you know, I kind of haven't
Speaker 3: really figured out the whole Rubble thing yet. You know,
Speaker 3: I use stream like you do, and uh for some reason,
Speaker 3: stream Yard is not It's very difficult to work with
Speaker 3: with Rumble. So but I have a few videos on
Speaker 3: Rumble and I do shorts and.
Speaker 2: Stuff too, So it's well, it's you know that.
Speaker 3: And if anybody has any questions or concerns or wants
Speaker 3: any information or advice, you know, they can reach me
Speaker 3: at Lakota Man three three Threa at gmail dot com
Speaker 3: and just send me their questions or you know, if
Speaker 3: they have an encounter they want to talk about that's
Speaker 3: fine too, so say.
Speaker 2: That will more time. Email you're kind of broke up
Speaker 2: here in the middle of the uh.
Speaker 3: Lakota Man three three three at gmail dot com l
Speaker 3: A k O t A m A N three three
Speaker 3: three at Gmail.
Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent, Hey, and for future reference if you're ever
Speaker 1: interested in doing what I'm doing. Uh, Because like as
Speaker 1: you guys see, this is what we see. This is
Speaker 1: a recorded session, but I abstract the audio from this one.
Speaker 1: It's done after I download it and everything, and it
Speaker 1: goes to the radio platform. And for those who are
Speaker 1: not familiar with how the radio platform works, this is
Speaker 1: distributed on several different podcast platforms and if you do
Speaker 1: the study and look up the analytics, these podcasts are
Speaker 1: heard all around the world in several countries. So what
Speaker 1: I want to phot it out to you is this
Speaker 1: is something that you want to expand on, let me
Speaker 1: know and I can get you hooked up. It won't
Speaker 1: cost you a scent.
Speaker 2: Sounds good to me, absolutely, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could talk about that and we could work
Speaker 1: on that later if that's something you want to do,
Speaker 1: because I already got another friend of mine who does
Speaker 1: a Facebook podcast. He does his Machine Yard as well,
Speaker 1: and I already got him connected with the guy who
Speaker 1: runs the studio here in Virginia that runs Media Squatch,
Speaker 1: which I'm a part of that network. Now, for those
Speaker 1: who want to listen, you know, for those who are following,
Speaker 1: you can still hear it on all your favorite podcast platforms, iHeartRadio, Pandora,
Speaker 1: Apple and you name it, it's probably there, so you
Speaker 1: just have to search it. But our main thing is
Speaker 1: it's distributed from Spreaker. For those who know what spreaker,
Speaker 1: it's a podcast platform. It starts there and it goes
Speaker 1: automatically gets distributed wherever. So but yeah, absolutely, we would
Speaker 1: love to put the word out there for everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk about that at a little bit later.
Speaker 3: That's that'd be another great thing for me to actually
Speaker 3: try and get out on. That's what I told you earlier,
Speaker 3: because I haven't seen that.
Speaker 2: I got it, And that looks good right there, Corey Gavis.
Speaker 3: She's she's admiring my remodeling job. Yeah, I've got I've
Speaker 3: got a lot of the stuff that I got here.
Speaker 3: I know the viewers that the listeners can't see it,
Speaker 3: but I've got a lot of my stuff on the
Speaker 3: walls around me, and I've got the big foot up
Speaker 3: in the corner there on the shelf, and I've got
Speaker 3: the other one over here behind me, all kinds of
Speaker 3: different stuff.
Speaker 1: So well, hey, if you guys ever want to go
Speaker 1: fishing since we're doing show, and I got all those
Speaker 1: fishing poles right behind me on the wall, that's only what.
Speaker 1: And then if you walk up here, there's more fishing
Speaker 1: poles right behind me over here. Then then the gun
Speaker 1: safe right behind me that's fully loaded right there, the
Speaker 1: gun safe right there. Yeah, oh yeah, here in the garage.
Speaker 3: I hate to say this, but I got to start
Speaker 3: getting ready for my podcast here in about an hour.
Speaker 3: So I appreciate Daniel giving us the opportunity to get
Speaker 3: together and talk about a lot of different things.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, the more you know, the more you grow, you know,
Speaker 3: and that's why I always say, question everything so good.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's always a pleasure to have you on here, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, because I love what you share and the
Speaker 1: knowledge that you you know, you a pain and you're
Speaker 1: willing to share it. So it's always a blessing to
Speaker 1: have you on here, William, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Thank you guys for letting me come on and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, God bless everybody, David and Melissa. It's great
Speaker 3: seeing you again face to face instead of just in
Speaker 3: a chat and talking. I'm gonna have to definitely get together,
Speaker 3: you know, all of us. Maybe just do our own
Speaker 3: little video out outside when.
Speaker 1: The weather breaks and oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: Four or five of us get together and just you know,
Speaker 3: just do something to where we can you know, share
Speaker 3: it with all of our platforms.
Speaker 1: So yeah, oh for sure. Well perhaps we'll get together,
Speaker 1: just meet up and go have lunch or something one day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, well, Daniel, thank you again.
Speaker 2: I do have to go though.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally unerstandable. You have a good evening, and
Speaker 1: thank you again for being here.
Speaker 2: So okay, good night, all right, all right, right.
Speaker 1: All right, well yeah, I got to say overall, I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed that whole discussion because you know, that's the
Speaker 1: one thing I like about having these open discussions. Uh,
Speaker 1: you never don't know what's going to be talked about,
Speaker 1: what's going to be brought up, but they're very random.
Speaker 1: They go from Bigfoot, the religion, their theories and history
Speaker 1: and everything in between. Because the last time I actually
Speaker 1: had William on here. That's exactly how how it went
Speaker 1: the last time I and I really like that. And shoot,
Speaker 1: that was out of all the recent podcasts I've been
Speaker 1: doing in the just into the New year for twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five, the podcast I had with him, he's probably
Speaker 1: got the most listening views and not views, but you
Speaker 1: know listens and downloads for that podcast. So but yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, like I said, I love this new platform.
Speaker 1: It's been working out great. And so anyone that is
Speaker 1: listening or will be listening again, we encourage you to
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Speaker 1: no limits on here. Pretty much as you could tell
Speaker 1: you've been following and listening to our guest eyewitness accounts
Speaker 1: and everything in between. There's really no limits on here
Speaker 1: a because I welcome all the open discussions. You never
Speaker 1: know what's going to be talking about on here. So
Speaker 1: so yeah, what do you guys think? I mean, this
Speaker 1: is the first time you guys actually been on here
Speaker 1: and joined in on one of these. How you guys
Speaker 1: feel about this so far?
Speaker 2: It's interesting? Would click a button.
Speaker 1: Right? It's a lot of it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: After thirty different texts back and forth this morning and stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm just click a button.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny because I shared with my father earlier
Speaker 1: when now when me and you would do it. After
Speaker 1: this was after the fact that we were texting back
Speaker 1: and forth a messenger, like, I told Dad. I was like,
Speaker 1: it was funny, I said, Dad, I see I'm here.
Speaker 1: I am trying to explain to him, and I know
Speaker 1: I'm not the best person to explain and retay, uh
Speaker 1: talk details with But I told Dad, I said, I
Speaker 1: was trying to help him understand, Like I was confused
Speaker 1: at first, trying to saying what he was looking for,
Speaker 1: and then we got that thing care and then we
Speaker 1: went in this. But in the middle of all this,
Speaker 1: I had this message from Melissa. Hey, Dad got a
Speaker 1: kick out of this, you know the Dad's like yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I said, David's wife, Melissa messages me.
Speaker 1: While he was trying to understand everything, He's like, he's
Speaker 1: the old man. He doesn't know nothing.
Speaker 2: You was talking about Spotify, So I got a Spotify first.
Speaker 2: Then we got into stream yard after minute. He told
Speaker 2: me Spotify the other day to listen. Now stream yards
Speaker 2: and balls, what do I need that?
Speaker 1: Well, see, that's what I was trying to understand. I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, wait a minute, what's he what is
Speaker 1: he actually asked me? What does he want to know?
Speaker 1: Is what I was trying to ask myself. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: because like stream Yard, Like we're on stream Yard right now.
Speaker 1: This is where I record my session. But when this
Speaker 1: is what we're completely done, I download the video and
Speaker 1: then I abstract the audio, and then I use the
Speaker 1: audio link that I have saved in my system to
Speaker 1: upload to my radio platform, and then that's where it
Speaker 1: goes to my new network and where it gets distributed
Speaker 1: to all the Podcat platforms.
Speaker 2: And I understand all that. I just didn't even know
Speaker 2: where to click to be able to join.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So well like okay, so yeah, we I think
Speaker 1: we finally came to that understanding. To do what we're
Speaker 1: doing tonight, you have to wait till somebody actually sends
Speaker 1: you a link to join in live, like what we're doing.
Speaker 1: We're recording live now, but the listeners later won't be
Speaker 1: getting this live. They'll be getting this after we get
Speaker 1: to put out there.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so we got it done anyway. So I mean,
Speaker 2: it's easy now, you just send me the lake I
Speaker 2: click out one button and I'm good to go.
Speaker 1: There you go, absolutely absolutely, uh. But yeah, there's so
Speaker 1: much I'm lacky looking for you. There's so much I
Speaker 1: got going on for this year. I was actually limiting,
Speaker 1: like as far as the events going on this year.
Speaker 1: Besides the one that you know I host every year,
Speaker 1: the one in Virginia here the e CBO Virginia Big
Speaker 1: Fort Conference, there's other events. The month of June is
Speaker 1: going to actually be very busy for me because the
Speaker 1: first week in June, June sixth, seventh, and eighth, I'll
Speaker 1: be in Marionville, Pennsylvania at the Forest County Bigfood Festival.
Speaker 1: I'll be one of the speakers there, of course. Jumping ahead,
Speaker 1: and we have my event June twentieth and twenty first,
Speaker 1: and then the week after my event, I'll be in
Speaker 1: West Virginia at the Sutton over in Suton, West Virginia,
Speaker 1: at the West Virginia Bigfoot Festival. And I'm actually really
Speaker 1: looking forward to that, And jumping ahead, I was I'm
Speaker 1: scheduled to be Oh, I'm I'm actually going to be
Speaker 1: in South Carolina again. I didn't know this past year.
Speaker 1: I've been going for the last four years, but I
Speaker 1: wasn't able to make it this past year. However, I
Speaker 1: will be returning this year in October. So but to
Speaker 1: back up, I actually had a message from the organizer
Speaker 1: and the guy who runs to the North Carolina the
Speaker 1: North Carolina Bigfoot Festival, which is a massive, huge event.
Speaker 1: I spoke there a little over two years ago, and
Speaker 1: so he reached out to me asking if I still
Speaker 1: speak at events. I was like, yeah, of course I do,
Speaker 1: but you know, this year I was actually really living.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to overdo events this year as far
Speaker 1: as speaking engagements, but I figure if they accepted me
Speaker 1: there after I gave him my you know what they
Speaker 1: they wanted to know what would require A said well
Speaker 1: mainly mainly lodging and whatever. I other details. But so
Speaker 1: after they go through the rest of their speakers and
Speaker 1: what they require, they'll make a decision. So so maybe
Speaker 1: I'll hear back from them. I may be speaking there
Speaker 1: and that's not confirmed yet, but over in that's awesome.
Speaker 1: That's marry in North Carolina. I think if things work
Speaker 1: out in my favor, it's usually Oh, they used to
Speaker 1: do their events. I think they used to do their
Speaker 1: events in May, but they jump. Their events are going
Speaker 1: to be in August now because they already gave me
Speaker 1: the day to that, so I wasn't scheduled for nothing
Speaker 1: in August. So if that works out, I may do
Speaker 1: that if they accept me to do that. So but yeah,
Speaker 1: if that gets confirmed, I'll do a like what I
Speaker 1: usually do. I usually do a post with all the
Speaker 1: events of speaking at this year. But as far as
Speaker 1: speaking engagement, if that doesn't follow through of South Carolina
Speaker 1: and October will be the last event of the year
Speaker 1: I speak at. But that's another thing if you if
Speaker 1: you guys are able to do it. Uh. From from
Speaker 1: my location, it's a good six hour drive straight down
Speaker 1: the way I go to South Carolina. There's a couple
Speaker 1: of different ways. One's more going out and about of
Speaker 1: course that you put into your GPS that shows you
Speaker 1: a couple of different ways to go. I usually go
Speaker 1: through the straightest point. But yeah, it used to take
Speaker 1: to me about a six hour drive to get down
Speaker 1: to that location in South Carolina. And uh, but the
Speaker 1: people down there, I'm telling you the location and to
Speaker 1: be around the other speakers and the people that run
Speaker 1: and organize that event. I've actually became like a family
Speaker 1: with them. I mean, I feel like when I'm down
Speaker 1: there for the few days I am, when it's all
Speaker 1: said and done, it's like, you really don't want to leave.
Speaker 1: That's how that's how you just developed this. I don't
Speaker 1: know the best way to put it, but you just
Speaker 1: don't want to leave, you know. It's like it's kind
Speaker 1: of like almost a depressing, sad feeling when you have
Speaker 1: to leave, you know. But I love going to South Carolina,
Speaker 1: and the location of the festival is in Westminster, South Carolina.
Speaker 1: It's just in that location is just minutes away from Georgia.
Speaker 1: Because when I attend that event every year, I meet
Speaker 1: so many people from Georgia, and I was like, oh, wow,
Speaker 1: you're all the way up here from Georgia. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: only about fifteen minutes from here. I was like, what
Speaker 1: So I had no understanding that in that particular part
Speaker 1: of South Carolina where we have the event, it's Georgia
Speaker 1: is not far away at all. I've heard so many
Speaker 1: different Bigfoot reports and stories that people like to share
Speaker 1: and talk to you. They come up to your booths
Speaker 1: and start telling you stories. I love it. Even West Virginia.
Speaker 1: I've heard some stories that you know, like are very credible,
Speaker 1: you know so. And speaking about stories, I've actually got
Speaker 1: an email from an individual who when I went into
Speaker 1: the bank the other day. The bank teller of the girl,
Speaker 1: she saw my hoodie I had on. I had my
Speaker 1: Bigfoot crypto hoodie on. She's, oh my god, I love
Speaker 1: you hoodie. I said, Oh cool, I say, are you
Speaker 1: into this? Do you believe in big She said, well,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, but it's my fiance, my boyfriend. He's like
Speaker 1: really into this and he believes in this stuff. Blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. And I gave her one of my cards
Speaker 1: and I actually just got her email from him. Apparently
Speaker 1: he has some experiences he wants to talk to me about.
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, great, I said, I would
Speaker 1: love to hear them. Blah blah blah. Well, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know where he had his experiences at, but
Speaker 1: I know live Uh well, I don't. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: The bank I went to is right up in Grottos,
Speaker 1: but I don't know how far they live in Grottos.
Speaker 1: Yeah they're local. Oh yeah, now.
Speaker 2: George joined their team.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, Well, I'm going to talk to him. I
Speaker 1: have yet to really, I replied back to his email
Speaker 1: and gave him some information and yeah, hopefully I'll hold
Speaker 1: back again because it sounds like he really wants to
Speaker 1: share his information with me. Well before that, I had
Speaker 1: an email from another individual, because you know, I put
Speaker 1: my cards out and rein the places like I put
Speaker 1: them out if it's whatever store I go to, if
Speaker 1: I have enough cars in my wallet, I put a
Speaker 1: few cars out. Well, I received the email earlier in
Speaker 1: the week from another individual, and he started sharing some information.
Speaker 1: He's I really want to talk to you. I think
Speaker 1: he'll be interested in what I have to share because
Speaker 1: I have some experiences, I've seen some things, I heard
Speaker 1: from things. He started sharing their locations, and some of
Speaker 1: them are up around Briar Branch and surrounding area, and
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I said, that's not far from like, uh,
Speaker 1: Briar Branch out northwest of Dayton and all that area.
Speaker 1: I know, I know all the areas you know. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's not far from British Knob, you know, so, and
Speaker 1: also particular area there was another area you mentioned. It's
Speaker 1: basically right in between Reddish Knob and over in our
Speaker 1: main research area you know, up around Elkhorn. So I
Speaker 1: can't wait to hear from him because I want to
Speaker 1: hear what he has to say, you know.
Speaker 2: Like Lake Elkren, Briery Branch and all interconnects anyone.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, So I was kind of encouraged to hear that.
Speaker 1: That's good to know. I mean, I don't know how
Speaker 1: long ago these experiences were, but nonetheless, you know, they
Speaker 1: have apparences in these areas. So so yeah, I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to touch a base and connecting with these people.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I got more. You know, It's been a
Speaker 1: while since I've had anyone want to reach out to
Speaker 1: me and share their experiences, especially local you know. So
Speaker 1: it's actually been years since I've heard local reports. Most
Speaker 1: of the local reports happened north a year up around
Speaker 1: the mountains along the skyline drive up around Elton, So
Speaker 1: going up the mountain on thirty three, I've heard sighting
Speaker 1: reports up that way, so where they're actually seeing them
Speaker 1: in the mountains going up to driving while driving up
Speaker 1: the mountain actually matter of fact.
Speaker 2: But so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, we got some stuff to I got
Speaker 1: some stuff to look into and you know, all that
Speaker 1: good stuff. Yeah. Right, So hey, guys, uh, We're going
Speaker 1: to come to a close here, but I wanted to
Speaker 1: give you guys the opportunity. Is there anything you want
Speaker 1: to talk about or share or out there before we
Speaker 1: come to a close.
Speaker 2: No, No, we're just a couple of joining you tonight.
Speaker 2: We really got the website and.
Speaker 1: All that other stuff right absolutely.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe in time, but right now, No, we're just
Speaker 2: part of it.
Speaker 1: All right, no problem. Well, hey, I want to thank
Speaker 1: you guys again for joining in tonight. Hopefully you guys
Speaker 1: will be willing to do this again in the future. Uh,
Speaker 1: because I got another individual. He's a he's a good
Speaker 1: friend of mine.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: He lives here in Virginia as well. Uh. I was
Speaker 1: actually asking him to join tonight. But he has going on.
Speaker 1: He does a lot of uh researching and investigating. He
Speaker 1: was actually in the middle of uh he had a
Speaker 1: plan investigation with a group of some of other people
Speaker 1: that associate with him.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: He lives down around the Bedford area and UH, it
Speaker 1: just it was short notice for him, so he wasn't
Speaker 1: able to join because of what he's got going on,
Speaker 1: but he plans on doing so in the uh in
Speaker 1: the near future.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: He also was actually one of the speakers at the
Speaker 1: Winter Green Resort Blue Ridge Big Ficks Festival that we
Speaker 1: did this past year. Uh, not long ago. What was
Speaker 1: that in September? I think it was whenever.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: His name is chet Nichols S S H E. T. T. E.
Speaker 1: Chett Nichols is his name, and uh, yeah, he he
Speaker 1: has a Facebook group if you guys want to check
Speaker 1: that Facebook group. Oh man, I'm haven't I am having
Speaker 1: a brain part, Okay, Yeah, I tag him in some
Speaker 1: posts sometimes, but yeah, he had Central Virginia Bigfoot Group
Speaker 1: or stuff like that. Yeah, I'll actually share the link
Speaker 1: to you guys if you guys want to check that out.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he has a lot of interesting things on there.
Speaker 1: He's I don't know, I don't know how old he is.
Speaker 1: He's a he's an old gentleman. Uh he Uh, he
Speaker 1: has some good information, he he. He does a lot
Speaker 1: of research and he knows a lot of stuff too,
Speaker 1: So you guys might want to check it out. As
Speaker 1: well as far as being a local, uh researcher. I
Speaker 1: know other local researchers, but he's definitely one I would
Speaker 1: recommend if you're gonna follow anyone in Virginia. He is
Speaker 1: a good way to do with Uh. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: I know, there's others I've been in touch with in
Speaker 1: the past here and there. There's other local residents that
Speaker 1: live further south down around the Christiansburg area, Uh, that
Speaker 1: do research that associate with me too. I've you guys.
Speaker 1: Have some of them actually been to the last Tanhall
Speaker 1: group meeting I had up at the Community Center at
Speaker 1: the Pavilion. There's been a couple of them that showed
Speaker 1: up there. They love sharing stuff with me. They want
Speaker 1: me to come down and investigate your areas.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: There's actually another Uh, there's another young lady wants me
Speaker 1: to investigate you guys recall the audio I shared at
Speaker 1: one time? Yeah? What what what do you guys think
Speaker 1: about the audio I shared that one time? Do you guys?
Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't that clear, but you could hear it? Uh?
Speaker 2: Does that? Wasn't it.
Speaker 1: Over down around her location? She's just south of Christiansburg
Speaker 1: over in Troy or close to Troy, Virginia, which I've
Speaker 1: been through that area several times. That area is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you sent me that to messenger, the audio stuff
Speaker 2: that I was listening to, right, you cleaned it up
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I tried to anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah it worked. I mean I listened to
Speaker 2: the original then the one you said you can hear
Speaker 2: a little bit better through that that way.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and that was recorded off of her back
Speaker 1: porch using her phone, and you know, so, I mean
Speaker 1: I really felt that, like that sounds very similar to
Speaker 1: these alleged bigfoot recordings I've gotten or her on YouTube
Speaker 1: from West Virginia, and uh, I just I'm I don't.
Speaker 1: I personally was very intrigued by that, and I told her,
Speaker 1: I said, I would love to come down there. She
Speaker 1: I have permission and like, not just me, if anyone
Speaker 1: else wants to come with me, I have permission to
Speaker 1: camp on her property and in destigate. So uh but
Speaker 1: I definitely want to check that out. From that location,
Speaker 1: it's probably close to two hours south from where.
Speaker 2: We are, so.
Speaker 1: But that that would definitely have to be like a
Speaker 1: weekend camp out maybe when the weather gets warmer and
Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about the snow. Rice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's that's a good way to travel for this
Speaker 1: time of the year right now.
Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah, but uh yeah, there's so much, so
Speaker 6: much to look into and so much to keep up
Speaker 6: with right now, and it's it's exciting but actually.
Speaker 1: Overwhelming at the same time.
Speaker 2: Yeh.
Speaker 1: But hey, guys, with that being said, we're going to
Speaker 1: come to a close. And for the listeners, thank you.
Speaker 1: I hope you guys are willing to share this information
Speaker 1: and to continue following b c v R, Bigforit Radio,
Speaker 1: and uh David and Melissa thank you again and absolutely,
Speaker 1: oh for sure right now
Speaker 2: Awesome