1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on. Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,719 my daily show prep with all of the links, become 6 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:22,359 a patron, go to dpeatclendershow dot com. Make sure you 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,920 hit the subscribe button. Get every episode for free right 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,320 to your smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so 9 00:00:27,399 --> 00:00:31,679 much for your support. Charlotte City council member Tiyajana Brown 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,079 and her daughters to adult daughters have been indicted on 11 00:00:36,119 --> 00:00:40,240 federal charges. They were all given unsecured twenty five thousand 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:46,719 dollars bond this morning at the federal courthouse. WBTV reports 13 00:00:46,759 --> 00:00:51,000 the charges were made public Thursday morning, hours after Brown 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,759 sent an early morning press release saying that she expected 15 00:00:54,799 --> 00:00:58,039 to face federal charges. Brown was elected to the city 16 00:00:58,039 --> 00:01:00,960 council in twenty twenty three represents District three, covering most 17 00:01:01,039 --> 00:01:05,519 of West Charlotte. WBTV has been digging deeper into the 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:10,439 federal investigation into Brown for weeks, even as she initially 19 00:01:10,439 --> 00:01:14,480 dodged questions about the allegations. All right, so I just 20 00:01:14,519 --> 00:01:18,040 mentioned about the h the bond hearing there in the 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,000 federal court and our own breaking Brett Jensen was out 22 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,079 there and he joins us, Now, hey, Brett, how did 23 00:01:23,079 --> 00:01:23,319 it go? 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,719 Speaker 2: While we're still here and we're waiting for her attorneys 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,719 to come out, Rob rob and Michael Green. Rob he 26 00:01:31,879 --> 00:01:34,280 Roy and Michael Green. And Michael Green's one of the 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,120 top defense attorneys in all of Mechamok County. Like he's 28 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,439 he's a big he's a big gun that they've hired 29 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,560 and he's going to be assisting. So she and her 30 00:01:43,599 --> 00:01:48,120 two daughters were raigned today, each separately in separate instances, 31 00:01:48,519 --> 00:01:52,400 and so each one was given a twenty five thousand 32 00:01:52,439 --> 00:01:57,719 dollars unsecured bond. All three must surrender their passports. Tijuana 33 00:01:57,719 --> 00:02:00,120 Brown is allowed to travel throughout the country because of 34 00:02:00,159 --> 00:02:04,760 her work with American Airlines. The other two daughters are 35 00:02:04,799 --> 00:02:08,439 being refined to travel strictly within the Western district of 36 00:02:08,439 --> 00:02:12,439 North Carolina. I can also tell you that Tijuana Brown 37 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,680 refused to comment as we left the courtroom, But we 38 00:02:15,719 --> 00:02:18,840 are waiting for her attorneys, and the hold up right 39 00:02:18,879 --> 00:02:21,599 now is that one of the daughters still had to 40 00:02:21,599 --> 00:02:26,240 be processed, and so they're waiting in a side room 41 00:02:26,439 --> 00:02:29,120 until the daughter is formally processed. And it's the daughter 42 00:02:29,159 --> 00:02:32,000 that lives full time in Atlanta and from that is 43 00:02:32,039 --> 00:02:35,400 being processed. So a twenty five thousand dollars unsecured bond, 44 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,520 which means they don't have to pay any money. It 45 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,520 just means that if they don't show up for court, 46 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,479 then they have to pay the twenty five thousand dollars bond. 47 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,599 Speaker 1: So all right, So when are the lawyers representing all 48 00:02:47,719 --> 00:02:48,800 three of them? 49 00:02:49,719 --> 00:02:53,759 Speaker 2: No, as a matter of fact, each defendant has their 50 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,919 own individual lawyers, and two of them, the two daughters, 51 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,719 are having lawyers that are ones on a contingency basis 52 00:03:02,759 --> 00:03:06,039 and ones in the process of probably being hired. But 53 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,719 you know Tijuana, she's she's brought some big guns, right 54 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,120 and so, but the other two are not like they're 55 00:03:14,159 --> 00:03:17,240 they're they're not high like they're not well known for 56 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,800 their defense as a high profile cases, I should say. 57 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: So there was there any was there any discussion of 58 00:03:25,159 --> 00:03:27,199 any of the facts of the case or was it 59 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,800 just a simple process of you got a lawyer, Yes, 60 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,520 I have a lawyer, and you know, you know the 61 00:03:32,599 --> 00:03:34,159 charges against you, and that's it. 62 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's basically and the arguments were over the you know, 63 00:03:39,199 --> 00:03:43,240 the the you know release pre trial release, and that's 64 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,280 what the arguments were over in the standards and where 65 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,319 they have to surrender passports, where they not have to 66 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,520 surrender passports? Can they You know that each daughter has 67 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,919 a chip plan. One has a trip plan to Jamaica, 68 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,960 another one has a chip plan to Europe, and so 69 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,800 each one of them wanted them to be able to 70 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,319 keep their passports so they could go to there. And 71 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,159 you know, there were a couple of times when you know, 72 00:04:04,199 --> 00:04:07,560 Tijuana got defiant a couple of times, specifically when it 73 00:04:07,599 --> 00:04:10,520 came to her passport, and you know, it was talking 74 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:15,120 over her lawyer and interrupting her lawyer about her wanting 75 00:04:15,159 --> 00:04:17,279 to keep her passport and saying this is her life's 76 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,600 work and she's not backing down. Regardless of what happened, 77 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,519 you know, it was you know, and it was, it was, 78 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,120 it was, it was it was a little bit of a. 79 00:04:26,079 --> 00:04:27,079 Speaker 3: Show beyond show. 80 00:04:27,439 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 4: And how did the judge react to that? 81 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,399 Speaker 2: Nothing, absolutely nothing, just said you need to speak to 82 00:04:33,439 --> 00:04:36,519 your attorney before you speak to us, and you know, 83 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,240 but yet Tijuana was not whispering. It was a full ball. 84 00:04:40,399 --> 00:04:42,680 The entire core could hear her entire court when I 85 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,680 should say, you could hear, and she's, you know, this 86 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,600 is my life's work, and I'm you know, I am 87 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,120 not apologizing and I will continue to do my life's 88 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,480 work and and so, but they did say, you know, 89 00:04:53,639 --> 00:04:57,160 if you need for any specific reason to go out 90 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,959 of the country, then you have to file a specific 91 00:05:00,199 --> 00:05:02,360 motion and we will hear this on a case by 92 00:05:02,439 --> 00:05:06,519 case basis, because apparently some inmates that she works with 93 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,920 are abroad, oh it be Mexico or Canada. 94 00:05:09,639 --> 00:05:12,759 Speaker 1: Or whatever, and so there might be an opportunity for 95 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,920 somebody to help her escape or something if she were 96 00:05:14,959 --> 00:05:17,399 to try to flee the charges. 97 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: I assume well and that you know. 98 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,319 Speaker 2: And one of the daughters the hazard trip to Jamaica, 99 00:05:21,399 --> 00:05:23,160 and the judge says, I need to know who you're 100 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:24,600 going with, how long are you going to be there, 101 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,240 what hotels you're going to too? Is it a direct flight? 102 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,000 Is a non direct flight? And then same thing with 103 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,399 the other daughter who's going to Europe for five days 104 00:05:34,959 --> 00:05:38,839 to celebrate being accepted into nursing school. And so she 105 00:05:39,199 --> 00:05:41,600 is planning to go to Europe for celebrating or getting 106 00:05:41,639 --> 00:05:44,279 accepted into nursing school, and so the judge the same 107 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,879 thing to her. I need to know exactly what countries 108 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:49,839 you're going to and what hotels and who you're going with, 109 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,240 and then we'll review the situation and see what the 110 00:05:53,439 --> 00:05:54,920 federal government has to say about it. 111 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,399 Speaker 1: Was there any discussion for the daughter that lives in 112 00:05:57,439 --> 00:06:01,680 Atlanta about restricting her also to the Western District of 113 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,680 North Carolina or is she does she get to return 114 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:05,240 to Atlanta? 115 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,199 Speaker 2: So the only thing the only she because she lives 116 00:06:08,199 --> 00:06:10,800 in Atlanta full times, so she has been restricted to 117 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:15,040 travel only within the Northern District of Georgia and the 118 00:06:15,079 --> 00:06:18,199 Western District of North Carolina are the only two places 119 00:06:18,199 --> 00:06:20,480 that she's allowed to travel to because she will be 120 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,120 traveling be required to be traveling back and forth to Charlotte. 121 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:24,720 But she does live full time. 122 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,759 Speaker 1: In Atlanta, right, Okay, you mentioned this, I don't know 123 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,879 attitude or her defiance. I think you used the word defiant. 124 00:06:32,879 --> 00:06:35,000 Uh So, I don't know. Were you at the press 125 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:35,920 conference yesterday? 126 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 2: No, I was not there yet. 127 00:06:37,959 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: Okay, because what you described and her interaction with her 128 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:47,000 lawyer today, it sounds like a glimpse of what I 129 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:52,560 caught in watching the playback of that press conference yesterday, 130 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,759 where like the lawyer started to try to shut down 131 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,120 a particular line of questioning by you know, giving some 132 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,120 you know answer that was sort of vanilla and you know, 133 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,360 a non answer, and then she started talking over her 134 00:07:06,439 --> 00:07:08,519 lawyer like no, no, no, I know, my life's work, 135 00:07:08,519 --> 00:07:10,439 I can talk about that, and like, I know. And 136 00:07:10,519 --> 00:07:14,399 so it's why I'm wondering, did her lawyer advise her 137 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,480 not to do that press conference yesterday and she just 138 00:07:17,519 --> 00:07:20,959 ignored the advice of counsel because I don't know a 139 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,040 lawyer that would that would have allowed their client to 140 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,160 do that if they were just advising them. And the 141 00:07:26,199 --> 00:07:28,639 client says, yes, okay, I take your advice, you're the pro. 142 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,240 I don't think that. I don't think that the lawyer 143 00:07:31,279 --> 00:07:33,160 would have advised her to do that press conference. 144 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: Well, and I think you never said correct. And I 145 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,720 don't have the direct answer of that one. But you know, 146 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,079 I watched the entire press conference yesterday, and I can 147 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,279 tell you that what you saw yesterday was exactly sort 148 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:49,319 of what you saw in court today, but to a 149 00:07:49,439 --> 00:07:53,519 lesser degree in terms of the loudness of her voice. 150 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,360 It was a little bit quieter but you could still 151 00:07:55,399 --> 00:07:58,279 hear it and you know, discussing this is my life's 152 00:07:58,279 --> 00:08:00,839 work and I am not I can down and this 153 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,160 is and it was, you know. And then finally at 154 00:08:04,199 --> 00:08:05,920 the very very end, and I want to make sure 155 00:08:05,959 --> 00:08:07,759 I actually wrote it down for Baden, I want to 156 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,199 make sure I get this right. But at the very 157 00:08:10,279 --> 00:08:15,319 very end she addressed the judge, and not in a 158 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,720 bad way or anything like that, but she had trust 159 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,120 the judge. And I just want to make sure I've 160 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:24,079 got the exact quote here, because she wanted to say that, 161 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,199 you know, she travels all over the world because of 162 00:08:26,199 --> 00:08:31,600 her community work. She goes, she goes your honor. It 163 00:08:31,639 --> 00:08:35,879 was my it was my pleasure. You've been very kind today, 164 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:42,360 have a great day. And everyone started was like, uh, okay. 165 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:42,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. 166 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,879 Speaker 2: That was a little odd, but so neither one of 167 00:08:46,919 --> 00:08:49,120 the two daughters said anything remotely close to that. 168 00:08:49,639 --> 00:08:51,799 Speaker 4: Did you catch the name of the judge? 169 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,759 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I do have the judge until so Judge 170 00:08:55,799 --> 00:08:58,519 Bell will be hearing the cases at least for the 171 00:08:58,519 --> 00:09:00,240 two daughters, and I think he's also hearing the Chase 172 00:09:00,279 --> 00:09:07,879 of Tijuana. But the judge today is Judge Sullivan. Uh 173 00:09:08,639 --> 00:09:12,360 heard in all my notes here. Susan C. Rodriguez is 174 00:09:12,399 --> 00:09:17,440 her name, Susan the Rodriguez. She was the judge today 175 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,360 determining what the pre trial release will be. 176 00:09:20,639 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: Well, and I don't know anything about Judge Rodriguez, but 177 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,559 it is possible that the kind words at the end 178 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,639 there from Brown, Uh maybe maybe they know each other 179 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,960 from Democrat politics, so like it's quite possible that they 180 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,480 have met each other at various you know, events or 181 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,039 something like that. So maybe she knows her, and that's 182 00:09:37,039 --> 00:09:37,799 why she was saying that. 183 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 4: I don't know. 184 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,879 Speaker 3: That's yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, it was. 185 00:09:40,919 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: It was just odd. I've never you know, you've been 186 00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:45,440 very kind today. Thank you your honor and have a 187 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,000 great day. Yeah, but it was it was just it 188 00:09:48,039 --> 00:09:50,039 was an odd situation. Like I said, But I don't 189 00:09:50,039 --> 00:09:51,679 think she's going to be hearing the game. I believe 190 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,559 this is Judge Bell, that we'll be hearing the case 191 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:55,200 going forward. 192 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,759 Speaker 1: All right, Uh, Brett, I appreciate as always work you're 193 00:09:58,759 --> 00:10:01,159 doing out there, and we'll see if the lawyers stop 194 00:10:01,159 --> 00:10:04,080 by and chat with media for a bit of time, 195 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,039 and if they do, feel free to jump back on. 196 00:10:06,399 --> 00:10:08,120 But I know you'll be covering it throughout the day 197 00:10:08,159 --> 00:10:08,639 here as well. 198 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. 199 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, thank you. That's Brett Jensen. You can catch 200 00:10:12,519 --> 00:10:15,720 them here on WBT. Although his timeslot is moving, so 201 00:10:15,799 --> 00:10:18,519 he's seven to eight now, but he's going to be 202 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:19,679 moving six to seven. 203 00:10:19,759 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 4: When does that start? Tuesday? Tuesday? So there you go. 204 00:10:22,799 --> 00:10:24,480 He's gonna be able to go to bed earlier or 205 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,399 hit the bars earlier either way. All right, that's breaking 206 00:10:27,399 --> 00:10:28,080 Brett Jensen. 207 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 2: All right. 208 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,519 Speaker 1: If you're listening to this show, you know I try 209 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,320 to keep up with all sorts of current events, and 210 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,440 I know you do too, And you've probably heard me 211 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,679 say get your news from multiple sources. Why well, because 212 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,399 it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've 213 00:10:41,399 --> 00:10:44,720 been so impressed with ground News. It's an app and 214 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,879 it's a website and it combines news from around the 215 00:10:47,879 --> 00:10:50,559 world in one place so you can compare coverage and 216 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,519 verify information. You can check it out at check dot ground, 217 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,840 dot news slash pete. 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Your subscription then 227 00:11:26,919 --> 00:11:29,799 not only helps my podcast, but it also supports Ground 228 00:11:29,799 --> 00:11:32,720 News as they make the media landscape more transparent. 229 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 4: Hiight, let me get to. 230 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,519 Speaker 1: Some messages here, Michael, he says, Pete. I hope you're 231 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,879 doing well today. I am, Michael, thank you for asking. 232 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,960 I was listening to the segment with Mayor Pat McCrory 233 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,600 that was in the last hour. I noticed him say 234 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:52,879 Charlotte was previously clean. May have missed Velma Leak gaming 235 00:11:52,919 --> 00:11:56,440 the school system and falsely establishing a residency to allow 236 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,879 her grandson C. J. Leak to go to a school 237 00:11:58,879 --> 00:12:01,679 in a district in which he did not live. Okay, 238 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,320 So first off, Michael, I like I remember vill Malik. 239 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,559 She's county commissioner now, but back in the day she 240 00:12:07,639 --> 00:12:11,440 was on the school board. There were questions about her residency, 241 00:12:11,519 --> 00:12:13,559 and I've talked about that over the years. I'm not 242 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,360 going to get into all of the details of that now, 243 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,720 but there was there was always a deal. 244 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:19,759 Speaker 4: Just like you heard. 245 00:12:19,799 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: Pat say that his rule was always let the chief 246 00:12:23,759 --> 00:12:28,240 be the chief, right, And there was always this deal 247 00:12:28,519 --> 00:12:33,039 between the school system and the city council. You do schools, 248 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,240 we do the city, and we do not get involved 249 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,960 in each other's business. Because the school district was always 250 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,399 and still is right, they were always a part of 251 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,159 the county commissioners, and so the city council was always 252 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,960 and the mayor was always off to the side from 253 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:55,360 the school district. So there was never any commenting about 254 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,200 or you know, advocating for stuff related to schools if 255 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,279 you were on city ca council. They drew a line 256 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,240 sort of between those two bodies. So I would not 257 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,799 unless there's like some massive scandal involved, you would not 258 00:13:09,919 --> 00:13:13,080 expect to hear anything from city council members against school 259 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:18,440 board members or the school district county commissioners. Yes, so 260 00:13:18,519 --> 00:13:21,240 that was so to defend Pat on that, but that 261 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,960 was there. That was their deal. They were very open 262 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,799 and clear about that, and everybody adhered to that, and 263 00:13:27,879 --> 00:13:31,039 maybe he overlooked Patrick Cannon. He did not overlook Patrick Cannon. 264 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,879 In fact, he cited Pat Cannon. Pat Cannon got elected 265 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,440 after Anthony Fox. Anthony Fox got elected after Pat McCrory, 266 00:13:40,799 --> 00:13:45,279 So Pat McCrory was already governor when Pat Cannon's bribery occurred. 267 00:13:45,759 --> 00:13:48,240 That's and he mentioned that scandal as like that was 268 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,159 sort of the first one that was that was so 269 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,440 shocking because like everybody was operating it. 270 00:13:56,519 --> 00:13:59,399 Speaker 4: I can attest to this too. I covered the city council. 271 00:13:59,159 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: For a day decade, and like there there weren't there 272 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,000 weren't any stories like like Pat Kennon, there weren't any 273 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,840 stories like this thing with the city council and the. 274 00:14:10,799 --> 00:14:12,639 Speaker 4: Payoff to the police chief. There weren't. 275 00:14:13,039 --> 00:14:19,799 Speaker 1: They just didn't have these kinds of scandalous stories. And 276 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,960 then Michael says, I am positive that you are a 277 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,720 master status ninja at clever wit and sarcasm. I do 278 00:14:26,759 --> 00:14:29,799 believe you have a black belt in sarcasm. In fact, 279 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,159 that's true. In fact, it is a black belt to 280 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,320 the nth degree. It's the highest you can achieve. Thank 281 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,840 you for the spectacular way you cover the news. Well, 282 00:14:38,879 --> 00:14:40,960 thank you, Michael, I appreciate I do it for you. Guys, 283 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,360 I know you are out there leading far more productive 284 00:14:44,399 --> 00:14:48,080 lives than I could, so I figure I will aggregate 285 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,200 stuff and tell you, hey, here are some stories that 286 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,000 and some deep dives and analysis that you know you're 287 00:14:56,039 --> 00:14:59,039 not hopefully getting anywhere else. I have my own lane 288 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,399 here and I do this stuff so you don't have to. 289 00:15:01,879 --> 00:15:04,879 It's very I mean, the word hero is overused, I 290 00:15:04,919 --> 00:15:08,440 know in our society today, but in this case, I 291 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,840 think it might apply. Let me go over to the 292 00:15:12,879 --> 00:15:15,759 Twitter machine, and Russ says, I hope that if I 293 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,039 ever get into some kind of trouble, I don't call 294 00:15:19,039 --> 00:15:22,360 a press conference to explain myself and then step on 295 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,639 so many rakes that may seem like I'm guilty that 296 00:15:25,759 --> 00:15:29,320 my attorney has to keep jumping in. Also, what is 297 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,919 with this trend of I did the thing, but I 298 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,600 shouldn't face any consequences because of who I am. I'm 299 00:15:35,639 --> 00:15:38,159 part of this group, or I've done other good things 300 00:15:38,279 --> 00:15:44,679 or something. Yeah, their excuses, Russ, They're just excuses. And 301 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,399 this is one of the things that I actually like 302 00:15:51,039 --> 00:15:57,240 most about covering local politics and governance, which is that 303 00:15:58,519 --> 00:16:01,559 a lot of the people that are in these positions 304 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:07,279 are not exactly good politicians at the craft, you know, 305 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:12,519 at the craft of being a politician, and so you 306 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,919 see them do things, you hear them say things that 307 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,759 you don't get at the national level because to get 308 00:16:18,799 --> 00:16:21,000 to that level, you got to be a bit more 309 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,000 polished and practiced. And the only way to get there, 310 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,639 you know, is through experience, either in the business world, 311 00:16:26,639 --> 00:16:29,440 but mainly through lower elected offices. 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We are doing the deep dive 339 00:18:01,839 --> 00:18:04,799 into our indicted Charlotte City councilwoman. Do you want to 340 00:18:04,839 --> 00:18:07,279 brown pleaded not guilty? 341 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:08,039 Speaker 4: This morning? 342 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,559 Speaker 1: As you heard from Brett Jensen earlier in the hour 343 00:18:12,279 --> 00:18:16,680 Released on twenty five thousand dollars unsecured bond let me 344 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,480 go over and talk with Bill. Hello, Bill, welcome to 345 00:18:19,519 --> 00:18:19,920 the shoe. 346 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 3: How are you hey? 347 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 6: Doing well? I wanted to mention I had heard on 348 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:31,559 an earlier program a comment about Charlotte being a world 349 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:36,000 class city, and I would like to say, I don't 350 00:18:36,079 --> 00:18:41,720 think so yet. Maybe when we had a better leadership 351 00:18:41,799 --> 00:18:45,319 with Pat McCrory and all. But as long as the 352 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:51,519 citizens of this city elect people as incompetent and unqualified 353 00:18:51,559 --> 00:18:57,880 as miss miss Brown, I don't consider it. I would 354 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:03,519 nominate my hometown small of Elmira, New York, home of 355 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:09,039 Tommy Hill figure the first African American Heisman Trophy winner 356 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:14,519 Ernie Davis, as to not our main Collins burial place 357 00:19:14,599 --> 00:19:18,279 of Mark Twain. I think we're more world class than 358 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:23,279 I would consider Charlotte at this point, with all the turmoil. 359 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: Well that's a fair point, Bill, I appreciate the call. 360 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,960 It's a fair point. That call sponsored by the Elmira 361 00:19:29,279 --> 00:19:35,279 Chamber of Commerce. I'm just kidding, no, but I think 362 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:40,359 I think actually having a couple of city officials get indicted, 363 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,359 I think that does make us world class, doesn't it. 364 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 4: That's okay, let me jump over here. 365 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: Brett Jensen returns with more information. I'm assuming, Hey, Bret, 366 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:49,039 what's up. 367 00:19:49,839 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 2: How's it going. So the attorneys just spoke with us 368 00:19:52,519 --> 00:19:56,480 and Tiuana. You know, we surrounded her, walked with her 369 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,480 for just over a block. 370 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,279 Speaker 3: Surrounding her as she walked the famous Purp walk. 371 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well you know she was walking to her car. Yeah, 372 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,759 and so we surrounded her and you know, all the 373 00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:12,359 cameras and everyone following her and asking her questions that 374 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,000 at first she wouldn't answer, and then she just couldn't 375 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,640 help herself. And then she started talking. 376 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 4: What did she say? 377 00:20:17,519 --> 00:20:21,319 Speaker 2: And well, you know, she she she said that the 378 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,240 judge was a lovely person, and she appreciates the judge, 379 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,759 and she's not going to stop her life's work. You know, 380 00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:28,759 a lot of the stuff she said in court. But 381 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,759 she also said, you know, she feels like she still 382 00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:33,960 has the support of the entire community. And she says, 383 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,920 she goes, I want every precinct. I had the support 384 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,079 of my district. And I said, and I in my 385 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,839 follow up was well, that was before the indictment. 386 00:20:41,559 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, and we didn't nobody knew anything about all 387 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:45,960 of this stuff. 388 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,759 Speaker 4: But when she ran for election. 389 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,599 Speaker 2: And then and then I said, so I said, why 390 00:20:51,599 --> 00:20:54,720 should they still trust you or have faith? Yeah, why 391 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,319 should they still have trust and faith in you? And 392 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,480 then she said no comment. 393 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: Oh, and that's not the right answer. That is not 394 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,079 the right answer. 395 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 2: Yep, she did say, well, excuse me. Speaking to her 396 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,039 one of our attorneys and I asked him, I said, 397 00:21:12,039 --> 00:21:15,400 we will this be tried together separately by Judge ken 398 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,240 Bell And he said, at this point, they believe all 399 00:21:19,279 --> 00:21:22,640 three will be tried together as one singular case. 400 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: So my take on that then is that because it 401 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,720 is alleged in the indictment that this was a conspiracy, 402 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,279 that indicates then to me that they are If you're 403 00:21:34,319 --> 00:21:36,640 going to try them together, it means that they were 404 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,960 all in cahoots to do the thing. 405 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,079 Speaker 2: Well, right, you know. And if you remember yesterday Keanna 406 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,880 Brown kipt saying I paid back my twenty eight and 407 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,359 forty eight dollars or whatever it was. All she kept 408 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,160 saying is that we would have men. There's one hundred 409 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,759 and twenty four thousand dollars listed in the indictment. I 410 00:21:54,839 --> 00:21:58,000 paid back my portion. I paid back my share. Granted, 411 00:21:58,079 --> 00:21:59,480 she says she just paid it back a couple of 412 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,839 months ago, and the situation happened four years ago and 413 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,480 she just paid it back. But you know, so I'm thinking, 414 00:22:06,799 --> 00:22:10,000 all right, you know, if you are to give her 415 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,400 all the benefit of the doubts and everything else like that, 416 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,640 and you're going, okay, you only had the twenty thousand 417 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,279 and you paid it back, Well, then why would you 418 00:22:17,319 --> 00:22:20,559 want to be tied with your daughters who maybe committed 419 00:22:20,759 --> 00:22:23,240 much greater fraud because one of the daughters is charged 420 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,640 with a lot of them, a lot of accounts and so. 421 00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:29,799 But no, but speaking with what you know, Rob has 422 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,519 heroy today that he was just like, yeah, because it 423 00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:34,960 looks like he is. I would guess that they'll be 424 00:22:35,039 --> 00:22:37,720 all tried together, and it will be several months down 425 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:38,079 the road. 426 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they may try to they may try to 427 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,000 get separate trials for the for the all three different defendants. 428 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 4: That's possible. 429 00:22:44,759 --> 00:22:48,039 Speaker 1: Maybe if somebody starts talking to you know, turn state's 430 00:22:48,079 --> 00:22:50,720 witness or something, or a federal witness, then then maybe 431 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:55,200 that changes or something. But yeah, she also wouldn't answer 432 00:22:56,039 --> 00:22:58,440 who it was that filled out the application. She kept 433 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,079 saying a third party. Wouldn't name that third party whether 434 00:23:02,079 --> 00:23:04,640 that's her daughter's or if there was some other entity 435 00:23:04,759 --> 00:23:09,480 or organization or person that did it for her. She wouldn't. Yeah, 436 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,279 she wouldn't say that either. And she only paid the 437 00:23:13,319 --> 00:23:17,400 money back, she said, when there was some scrutiny in 438 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,200 the application, which I don't know what that means. And 439 00:23:20,279 --> 00:23:22,799 where did that scrutiny come from? Because if it came 440 00:23:22,839 --> 00:23:27,720 from reporters like David Hodges and Nick Oxner asking about 441 00:23:28,079 --> 00:23:30,440 some of this stuff weeks ago, as they say in 442 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,480 their news story, then maybe that's what prompted her to 443 00:23:33,519 --> 00:23:36,799 pay it back. Or maybe the FED started asking her 444 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,119 questions and that's what prompted her to pay it back. 445 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,119 But it's not like she it's not like she realized 446 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,920 something on her own and then went and paid it back. 447 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,200 It was that people were asking her questions about the 448 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:55,640 documents that were submitted that contained fake IRS SCHEDULEC forms, 449 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,119 and like that's a problem, that's a big problem. 450 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 2: Well, well it is. And again, if you know the discrepancy, 451 00:24:03,279 --> 00:24:06,400 why would it take four years or four and a 452 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,599 half years for that to be brought to light? If 453 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,559 you're Tijuanna Brown, like all of a sudden, this is 454 00:24:10,599 --> 00:24:15,160 all just purely coincidental that BTV and the FEDS and 455 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,000 everything else I mean, people forget this. You know, yesterday 456 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,200 one of the things that she said was, you know 457 00:24:20,279 --> 00:24:23,400 that this is just an attempt or employed to get 458 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,599 her to not run for re elections, to make it political. Well, 459 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,359 this was all started. This investigation was started by a 460 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,799 Biden appointed attorney attorney general, like for the Western District 461 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,759 of North Carolina. Like, this was a Biden appointee that 462 00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:41,440 started this investigation, not a Donald Trump appointee, right. 463 00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: And the idea that a Trump US attorney would try 464 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,079 to oust her. So what it goes to a different Democrat? 465 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,799 It's District three that's not getting one may a Republican. 466 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,759 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I said. I said, how many 467 00:24:53,759 --> 00:24:55,799 black women are Charlotte City Council right now and how 468 00:24:55,799 --> 00:24:58,839 many of them are Democrat? Removal of one? What does 469 00:24:58,880 --> 00:24:59,240 that do? 470 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:04,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's virtually all black Democrat females at this point 471 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:05,200 on council. 472 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,079 Speaker 2: Yeah. So but they did, you know, they they talked 473 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,880 about that, and they're still going to try and get 474 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,000 some things done with her passports. And I asked the attorney, 475 00:25:14,039 --> 00:25:16,920 I said, so, I assume she traveled some with Mexico 476 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,079 and Canada with her, you know, with her her nonprofit 477 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,400 or whatever. I said, but does she trouble overseas it all? 478 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,839 And the attorney was like, I think she does go 479 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,279 overseas some and he goes, but I'm not upset positive 480 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,319 and this would be why the judge is like, Okay, 481 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,559 look like like we got to know where you're going 482 00:25:34,599 --> 00:25:36,240 because we've got to make sure you're going to a 483 00:25:36,279 --> 00:25:37,599 country that will extonite you. 484 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, Brett, thanks so much for calling 485 00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:42,079 back with the update. 486 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,079 Speaker 4: We appreciate it. And do you doing your show tonight? 487 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 2: I am doing my show tonight. It's the last night 488 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,240 he calendar. Yeah, I'm doing it from seven to eight 489 00:25:50,319 --> 00:25:52,240 until next week when I got six to seven. But 490 00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:55,079 obviously this is going to be a heavy, heavy topic tonight. 491 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,559 Speaker 1: There you go, So stay tuned tonight, seven o'clock Breaking 492 00:25:57,559 --> 00:25:58,920 with Brett Jensen here on WBT. 493 00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 3: Thanks Bred, appreciate it, Thanks Lobete. 494 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,319 Speaker 1: I mean, all right, so spring is here a time 495 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:09,200 of renewal and celebrations. You've got graduations, weddings, anniversaries and 496 00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:12,200 especial days for mom and dad. Your family's making memories 497 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,960 that are going to last a lifetime. But let me 498 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,279 ask you, are all of those treasured moments from days 499 00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:20,119 gone by? 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Tijuanna Brown apparently made a big 515 00:27:16,319 --> 00:27:18,960 deal out of her twenty twenty one birthday party, posting 516 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,279 images and videos to social media of the party that 517 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,000 was held at the Gant Center in Uptown Charlotte, and 518 00:27:26,039 --> 00:27:29,039 it's got some pictures here of like guys in tuxedos, 519 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,000 a bunch of people with cameras videotaping the whole thing 520 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,039 and taking pictures. She's walking in in like a full 521 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,559 length evening gown. One post on Instagram featured Brown entering 522 00:27:39,559 --> 00:27:41,559 the venue in an evening gown with a horse drawn 523 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,039 carriage behind her, and another of her leaving her party 524 00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:47,720 and getting into the carriage. And I thought this was funny, 525 00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:51,799 she says. If on Instagram, it's got the picture of 526 00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:54,759 her getting into the carriage, and she says, if you 527 00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:57,559 missed it, here you go. I was born a queen. 528 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,960 My fiftieth birthday with family and friends. My people traveled 529 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,240 from all over the globe to help me celebrate fifty 530 00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:08,680 trips around the sun. I'm so humble and blessed. I'm 531 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,400 so humble. Yes, this, this birthday party does strike me 532 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,359 as the party. 533 00:28:14,039 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 4: Of a humble person. 534 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm so, I think she meant to say humbled. 535 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,799 I'm so humbled and blessed for the people that God 536 00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:24,519 has placed in my life. She'd been planning this for 537 00:28:24,599 --> 00:28:28,160 some time, a birthday like no other, one that they'll 538 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,240 never forget, and then there were photos. As all people 539 00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:37,160 who are humbled do, is they take, you know, glamour 540 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,680 shots atop their throne that they have purchased or rented 541 00:28:42,039 --> 00:28:44,240 for the birthday party of the century. 542 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 3: And then. 543 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: Oh yes, ironically, she serves on the Budget, Governance and 544 00:28:55,559 --> 00:29:02,680 Intergovernmental Relations Committee. She says, I will not be trying 545 00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:04,839 the media. This is a recap of the press conference. 546 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,519 I'm trying to get to the part here at the end. 547 00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:13,680 I'm looking for it. Okay. Beauty after the Bars that's 548 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,920 her nonprofit, Beauty after the Bars, not the bar scene, 549 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,759 not saloons, but jail prison. 550 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: Okay. 551 00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:28,759 Speaker 1: This is her nonprofit that she runs that provides mentoring, advocacy, education, 552 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,960 and supports racial equity and economic mobility for the communities 553 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:38,480 that disproportionately affected and our most marginalized communities. The Instagram 554 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,920 account for Beauty after the Bars. The posts there are 555 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:47,240 a mix of the group's activism and Brown's swimsuit fashion photos. 556 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,039 If you haven't seen those yet, they are making the rounds. 557 00:29:50,599 --> 00:29:53,480 The group's official website has videos of Brown describing her 558 00:29:53,519 --> 00:29:55,720 years in prison, how she gave birth to her youngest 559 00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:59,279 daughter while incarcerated. She went to prison twice, and the 560 00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:05,480 records showed the charges are mainly cheat property services misdemeanors, 561 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,200 felonies the second time around felony use of the fraudulent 562 00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:15,559 use of a credit card. The bioprofile also mentions Mecklenburg 563 00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:20,359 Sheriff Gary not my fault McFadden multiple times, including stating 564 00:30:20,359 --> 00:30:25,039 that brown quote oversees the mentoring program re entry program 565 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:30,880 in partnership with Sheriff Gary McFadden to ensure once the 566 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,279 residents are released from jail, they never experience recidivism. In 567 00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:38,279 other words, they don't get they don't get re arrested 568 00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:44,720 and incarcerated. She's active Democrat voter. Her registration file with 569 00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:47,759 the state shows she has voted in dozens of elections 570 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:54,960 following her conviction and prison term. This might be a problem. 571 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,960 We do not allow felons to vote in North Carolina. 572 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,799 Pat Cannon when he got remember he he got indicted 573 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,000 on the bribery charges as mayor, he resigned, he went 574 00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:15,720 to prison, but before he went to prison, he voted 575 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,680 in the in an election or a primary or something 576 00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:23,480 right before he shipped out. After he was a convicted felon. 577 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,079 Because I think he pleaded guilty and he got in 578 00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:29,599 trouble for that too, and they're like, we may have 579 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,000 to revoke his his probation. He you know, report directly 580 00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:35,640 to jail, and I think they just like, he's like, oh, 581 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:36,400 it's my mistake. 582 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,519 Speaker 4: I didn't know. So it is. 583 00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: It's not clear and maybe she did, whether if she 584 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,400 ever had her record expunged or if she got a 585 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,960 pardon from former Governor Roy Cooper that would that would 586 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,920 have restored her voting rights. The governor's clemency page, hosted 587 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,119 by Department of Public Safety, has a four h four message. 588 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,039 For some time now, no press really of a pardon 589 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,119 or Tijuana Brown, or even a mention of her can 590 00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:06,759 be found on the governor's official website. She has a 591 00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:09,119 lengthy series of court records, though in the state's e 592 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,359 court system there are too many to list individually, but 593 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,440 they span multiple counties. Items in the cases include charges 594 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:21,200 for worthless checks, using a forged instrument, obtaining property under 595 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:27,400 false pretenses, harassing phone calls, communicating threats, simple assault, and 596 00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:32,079 various cases brought against her by the state, employees, credit Union, Safeway, 597 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,880 and other entities. In Mecklenburg County. There were numerous cases 598 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:42,079 linked together, including speeding, expired tags, no license, no inspection, 599 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:47,599 no insurance, fictitious or altered registration cards, obtaining a driver's 600 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:52,359 license by fraud, and North Carolina identity or ID card fraud. 601 00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:57,000 There's also a set of twenty seventeen cases brought by 602 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,599 the North Carolina Department of Revenue for taxes owed in 603 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,680 the amount of twenty seven thousand, forty two dollars and 604 00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:08,960 another for over sixty five hundred dollars. The case files 605 00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:16,279 show nothing has been paid as of two day. This 606 00:33:16,319 --> 00:33:22,319 woman is a one person crime wave. Good grief, but 607 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,039 she paid this back everybody. She wants everybody to know 608 00:33:26,119 --> 00:33:29,400 she paid it back, and therefore she's in the clear. 609 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,559 Nobody should be pressing charges against her. She should not 610 00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:36,279 be facing indictment. This is just a political attack by 611 00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:38,960 a US attorney who's probably racist. 612 00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 4: Like that's what that's. 613 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: That's what she and the man that she brought with 614 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:49,000 her to this press conference yesterday. This is what they suggested. 615 00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:52,799 He suggested mainly I believe he was he was speaking 616 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,680 for her because if she says this stuff, then that 617 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,160 can be used against her in court. But he said it, 618 00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:05,400 and I think that's intentional. It's we're going to get 619 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,960 our message out through this other guy. I think his 620 00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:10,159 name is Cedric Dean. I'm not sure, but that was 621 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,679 the name on his hat. He had his name on 622 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,280 his hat. We'll get into it next, all right. 623 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,679 Speaker 4: That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much 624 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:20,239 for listening. 625 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: I could not do the show without your support and 626 00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:25,239 the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, 627 00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:27,679 so if you'd like, please support them too and tell 628 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,440 them you heard it here. You can also become a 629 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,159 patron at my Patreon page or go to thepetecallanershow dot com. 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