Speaker 1: Hey, they're deep divers. Ready for a theory that'll really
make you think it's a bit unsettling even We're going
to talk about the idea of a cyclical global cataclysm.
Just imagine civilizations rising and falling over and over and
over again, wiped out by these recurring disasters.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of sci fi, doesn't it, right?
Speaker 1: But is there actually any truth to it? To figure
that out, we're going to dive into some geology and archaeology,
maybe even some ancient myths. We've got some interesting sources
lined up for this deep dive, including the Adam and
Eve story by a scientist named doctor Chan Thomas. Oh wow,
and get this, this book was actually classified by the
CIA for years. Really talk about a red flag, right,
It really makes you wonder what they didn't want us
to know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's so interesting here is the sheer scale of
these potential cataclysms. If they happen. I mean we're talking
force is powerful enough to just reshape the entire earth
and probably leave clues that we could still find today.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's get into the nitty gritty. Doctor Thomas
really focuses on something called a pole shift. Can you
break down what he envisioned happening during one of these events.
Speaker 2: Okay, so picture this the Irk's crust, the very ground
we stand on shifting dramatically, not over millions of years,
but in a matter of hours.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Doctor Thomas describes these supersonic winds just tearing across the globe,
tsunamis miles high, crashing onto shores, molten earth like erupting
through the surface, and temperatures plummeting so rapidly that things
flash freeze. I mean, it's just a level of destruction
that's almost impossible to grasp.
Speaker 1: That's some intense imagery. I mean it makes you wonder
if that's why so many cultures have stories about massive floods.
Oh yeah, Noah's Ark, the Mayan Hudan Flood, the Hawaiian
New Flag. I mean, they all share these striking similarities. Yeah.
Is it possible that these myths are like echoes of
a real shared traumatic experience passed down for generations.
Speaker 2: It's definitely a compelling piece of the puzzle, that's for sure.
While we can't really say for sure without more concrete evidence,
the similarities definitely suggest that these stories might come from
a common historical event, an event that left like an
unforgettable mark on humanity's collective memory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes you wonder if these stories are based
on truth, then what was the event that sparked them all?
Speaker 2: Exactly?
Speaker 1: Okay, let's dive even deeper. Doctor Thomas suggests that these
cataclysms might have wiped out advanced civilizations that came before
our own. Is there any archaeological evidence to actually support this?
Speaker 2: This is where things get really interesting, because we're talking
about challenging those mainstream archaeological timelines. Okay, So take the
Great Sphinx in Egypt, for example. Doctor Thomas points to
the water erosion patterns on the Sphinx as evidence that
it was exposed to massive flooding, potentially pushing its origins
back way further than conventional history suggests.
Speaker 1: So you're saying the Sphinx might be older than we think.
That's a pretty bold claim. Are there other examples like this?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? There's the Yonaguni Monument, which is off the coast
of Japan. Oh wow, it's this massive underwater structure with
features that some believe could be man made.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Could it be a remnant of the legendary lost continent
of mo If it was, then it would totally rewrite
our understanding of like ancient civilizations. And then there's nan
Madal in Micronesia, another site that may have ties to move.
This ancient city has these massive stone structures and a
seriously sophisticated irrigation system that would have required some pretty
advanced engineering. It makes you wonder how such a civilization
could have existed so far back in time, you know,
but the evidence is right there in front of us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is blowing my mind. So we've got these
potential underwater cities, ancient monuments that don't fit the accepted timelines.
It's like it's like a real life Indiana Jones adventure.
And don't forget about the Moai statues on Easter Island.
They play into this theory too, don't they.
Speaker 2: They do. Some researchers think that the Moi were actually
partially buried by a catatrophic event, suggesting that East Island
was once part of a much larger land mass, possibly
move before it was submerged. Imagine these iconic statues just
standing tall on a continent that's now underwater. I mean,
it really makes you rethink what we know about the
ancient world.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we've got these tantalizing clues scattered all over
the globe. But what about the science behind all of this.
How does doctor Thomas actually explain how a pole shift
could happen.
Speaker 2: Well, he theorized that the Earth's molten layers, the ones
deep beneath the crust, act kind of like a lubricant,
allowing the crust to shift rapidly under immense pressure. He
even suggested that the weight of the ice caps at
the poles could be enough to actually trigger this kind
of a shift. Think of it like a spinning top. Okay,
if you add weight to one side, it starts to
wabble and eventually just topples over. Doctor Thomas argued that
a similar principle could apply to the Earth. Now, it's
important to note that this theory isn't widely accepted by
the scientific community, but it's still a fascinating idea, right,
And it's not like the Earth's axis is perfectly stable.
We know that earthquakes can cause slight shifts, even if
they're not on the scale that doctor Thomas was talking about.
Speaker 1: So is it possible that we're underestimating the forces at
play inside our planet.
Speaker 2: That's the million dollar question, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: While most scientists believe that major shifts in the Earth's
axis happen over millions of years, doctor Thomas's work really
challenges us to consider the possibility of more rapid and
more dramatic changes. It forces us to ask, what if
the Earth is more dynamic, more volatile than we realize.
What if the forces that actually shape our planet are
more powerful than we can even imagine.
Speaker 1: These are some pretty profound questions and it makes me
think about it other phenomenon magnetic pole reversals. These are real,
scientifically documented events, and some scientists think that we might
be overdue. For one, how do these magnetic pole reversals
differ from pole shifts and what kind of impact could
they have on us?
Speaker 2: That's a great question something we definitely need to explore further.
Magnetic pole reversals are fascinating in their own right. It's
basically like flipping a giant magnet. The Earth's magnetic north
and south poles swap places, and we know this has
happened many times throughout Earth's history. But here's the thing.
During a reversal, the Earth's magnetic field weakens significantly. Okay.
In this magnetic field, it acts like a shield that
protects us from harmful radiation from the Sun in space.
So a weakened magnetic field could leave us more vulnerable
to things like solar flares and cosmic rays.
Speaker 1: So even if the Earth itself isn't ripped apart during
a magnetic reversal, our technological civilization could be in serious trouble.
Speaker 2: Exactly. We relie so much on technology that's vulnerable to
disruptions in the Earth's magnetic field. You know, satellites, communication systems,
power grids, they could all be impacted.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: It's a scenario that makes you appreciate just how delicate
the balance of our modern world really is. And the
craziest part is we have evidence that a reversal might
be happening sooner rather than later. The North Pole is
drifting at an accelerating rate and the Earth's magnetic field
is weakening. It's like the Earth is sending us a
warning signal.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we've got these potential threats, poll shifts, magnetic reversals,
and even the possibility of another global flood. It's a
lot to take in, it is, But before we descend
into a full blown doomsday spiral. Let's talk about the
CIA's role in all of this.
Speaker 2: Okay, why would they.
Speaker 1: Classify the Adam and Eves story? What didn't they want
us to know?
Speaker 2: That's a mystery that has fueled all sorts of speculation.
Some people believe the CIA was trying to suppress information
about the true history of humanity, maybe to maintain control,
maybe to prevent mass panic. Others argue that it might
have had more to do with doctor Thomas's other work,
his scientific expertise, which might have had national security implications,
especially during the Cold War.
Speaker 1: Right, is a puzzle that we'll try to unravel together
as we dive deeper into this source material.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, the CIA's involvement definitely adds another layer of intrigue
to this whole thing.
Speaker 1: It's like something out of a spy thriller. But before
we get too lost in the world of espionage, let's
look at some of the specific evidence doctor Thomas presents. Okay,
he describes these massive ripples in the landscape, like fifty
foot high waves frozen in time. He claims they were
caused by just enormous amounts of water moving at incredible speeds.
Are there any real world examples of that kind of phenomenon?
Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting you brought that up. There's this
geological formation in northwest Africa called the rich Shot structure,
also known as the Eye of the Sahara, and it
sparked a lot of debate. It's this series of concentric
rings about thirty miles across, and some believe it could
be the remnants of Atlantis. Really now, most scientists think
it's a natural formation, but its sheer size and unique
shape are pretty mind blowing. And get this, those ripples
Thomas describes, they're found all over the planet, often near
these like enigmatic structures. They might look like rolling hills
to the untrained eye, but they were formed by like
unimaginable volumes of water moving at incredible speeds.
Speaker 1: Wow, it's like looking at a snapshot of an ancient cataclysm. Yeah.
And speaking of snapshots, doctor Thomas also talks about this
evidence of flash freezing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He describes wooly mammoths being frozen so quickly that they
still had undigested food in their stomachs. Is there any
truth to that?
Speaker 2: It's true. Wooly mammoths have been found with undigested food
in their stomachs and even flowers in their mouths. It's
like they were just frozen in time. They're going about
their business in one minute and then encased in ice
the next.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Now, while we can't definitively say that they were flash frozen,
the conditions needed to preserve them in such a state
would have had to have been extreme, like a sudden
catastrophic drop in temperature.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really paints a vivid picture. You can almost
imagine these massive creatures just caught off guard by this
sudden world altering event.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Doctor Thomas really goes into detail about what it would
be like to actually live through such a cataclysm. Buildings collapsing,
people being swept away by tsunamis, entire continents engulfed in flames.
It sounds terrifying. But is it really possible for the
Earth's axis to shift so dramatically.
Speaker 2: That's the big question, isn't it. Doctor Thomas argued that
not only was it possible, but it had happened before,
and he used evidence from ancient myths and geological anomalies
to support his claims. Okay, he believed that the Earth's
molten layers acting like a lubricant could allow the crust
to shift rapidly under the influence of external forces, things
like the gravitational pull of the Sun and Moon, or
even the weight of the ice caps themselves. He even
pointed to earthquakes as an example.
Speaker 1: So he's saying that if a minor earthquake can cause
a slight shift in the Earth's axis, imagine what a
much larger earthquake or a series of earthquakes could do.
Speaker 2: Exactly. He was basically extrapolating from what we know about
the Earth's dynam and suggesting that we might be underestimating
the potential for large scale shifts. Of course, a lot
of scientists are skeptical of this theory. While there's evidence
that the Earth's axis has shifted in the past, the
mainstream view is that these shifts happen gradually over millions
of years, not in the rapid, catastrophic way that doctor
Thomas describes.
Speaker 1: So the scientific jury is still out on that one.
But what about magnetic pole reversals. We talked about those earlier.
There are scientifically accepted phenomenon, right, Well, can you tell
us about them?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Magnetic pole reversals are well documented. We know from
studying the geological record that the Earth's magnetic field has
flipped many times throughout history. The North and South magnetic
poles just switch places, and it's something that's happened countless
times over millions of years. And there's growing evidence that
we might be headed towards another reversal relatively soon. The
North pole has been drifting at an accelerating rate and
the Earth's magnetic field is weakening.
Speaker 1: You mentioned earlier that a weakened magnetic field could have
serious consequences for our technology. Can you elaborate on that?
What kind of risks are we talking about?
Speaker 2: Well, are magnetic fields like a giant shield protecting us
from harmful radiation from the Sun in space? It deflects
solar winds and cosmic rays, preventing them from reaching the
Earth's surface. But during a magnetic pole reversal, this shield
weakens significantly, leaving us more vulnerable.
Speaker 1: So what we all get sunburns?
Speaker 2: That would be the least of our worries. A weakened
magnetic field could disrupt satellites, damage communication systems, and even
cause power outages. Oh wow, imagine a world without GPS,
cell phones or internet access, it would be chaos.
Speaker 1: Okay, now that is scary, and you're saying this could
happen soon, like in our lifetime.
Speaker 2: It's definitely a posibi outy. Scientists are still trying to
understand the exact timeline of magnetic reversals, but the evidence
suggests that we're in a period of increased magnetic instability.
It's a reminder that not as in control of our
planet as we like to think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a humbling thought for sure. So we've got
these potential threats, poll shifts, magnetic reversals, maybe even another
global flood. It all sounds pretty dire. Does doctor Thomas
offer any solutions, any glimmer of hope in the face
of these potential cataclysms, Well.
Speaker 2: He doesn't really offer specific solutions in the traditional sense,
like build an underground bunker or stockpile supplies. But his
work is definitely a call to action. You know. He
seems to be urging us to become more aware of
these cyclical patterns of destruction and rebirth, almost like a
modern day profit kind of warning us of impending doom.
It's like he's saying, hey, folks, this has happened before.
And it could happen again, so let's not be caught
off guard.
Speaker 1: So his message is more about awareness and preparedness than
about specific actions exactly.
Speaker 2: It's about understanding the past, recognizing the potential for future cataclysms,
and just being adaptable. You know. It's about respecting the
power of nature and realizing that we're not as invincible
as we might think.
Speaker 1: It's a sobering thought, but it's also empowering any way.
If we know these events are possible, even if we
can't predict exactly when they'll happen, we can at least
start thinking about how to make ourselves more resilient, more adaptable.
We can start asking ourselves some tough questions like what's
truly important, what knowledge and values are worth preserving, How
can we create a more sustainable future.
Speaker 2: Those are great questions, and there are questions that each
of us needs to like grapple with. You know, doctor
Thomas's work, regardless of whether you agree with all of
this conclusions, forces us to confront our own vulnerability as
a species and to think critically about the long term
consequences of our actions.
Speaker 1: It's like you're saying, hey, wake up, people, We're all
part of a much larger system, and we need to
start acting like it.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we've explored doctor Thomas's theory of a cyclical
global cataclysm, looked at the evidence, and discussed the potential consequences.
We've also touched on the CIA's mysteer involvement in all
of this. But there's still one big question that lingers.
Why did they classify his book? What were they so
worried about? What didn't they want us to know? That's
the question that we're going to try to answer as
we move into the final part of our deep dive. Well,
examine the possible reasons behind the CIA's actions, consider the
different theories that have been put forward, and see if
we can shed some light on this intriguing mystery.
Speaker 1: All right, deep Divers, we're back and ready to tackle
the final piece of this puzzle, the cie's involvement in
the story of the Adam and Eves story. Why would
they classify a book about ancient history and potential cataclysms?
I mean, it's not exactly nuclear launch codes, right right.
Speaker 2: It's a question that's fueled all sorts of speculation for years.
Was the CIA trying to suppress information about like the
true history of humanity. Were they worried about mass panic
or could there be a more mundane explanation.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's break it down. What are some of
the theories that people have put forward to explain in the
CIA's interest in doctor Thomas's work.
Speaker 2: Well, one theory is that the CIA was concerned about
the potential impact of doctor Thomas's theories on national security.
You got to remember this was during the Cold War,
a time of intense paranoia and suspicion. Any scientific breakthrough,
any new technology. It was all seen through the lens
of potential military advantage. Doctor Thomas was a brilliant scientist
and engineer, and he'd worked on some pretty advanced projects
for companies like McDonald Douglas and Bell Labs. So maybe
some of his research, even if it wasn't directly related
to weapons or espionage, you know, could have had national
security implication.
Speaker 1: So they might have been worried about the Soviets getting
their hands on this information.
Speaker 2: It's possible. I mean, what if the Soviets figured out
how to like trigger pull shift and use it as
a weapon. The Cold War was like a constant scientific
one upmanship. Both sides were always trying to one up
each other, you know. And the CIA might have classified
doctor Thomas's book simply out of an abundance of caution,
like better safe than sorry.
Speaker 1: But wouldn't that mean they actually believed his theories? I
mean that seems a bit far fetched, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: Not Necessarily, they didn't have to be like totally convinced
that doctor Thomas was right. They just had to consider
the possibility, you know, however remote, that his ideas could
be weaponized. It's kind of like, you know, the whole
UFO thing, Right, The government might not actually believe in aliens,
but they still take reports of UFO sighting seriously, right,
because they can't afford to just ignore the potential threat. Right.
Speaker 1: I see your point. So national security concerns could have
been a factor, But what about the idea that the
CIA was trying to suppress information about the true history
of humanity? That's a pretty popular conspiracy theory, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Oh, it definitely is, And it's easy to see why
that theory appeals to people. It taps into this deep
seated mistrust of authority and the idea that you know,
they are hiding something from us, that our history is
different from what we've been taught, that maybe there are
these advanced civilizations before us that were wiped out by cataclysms.
It's a pretty compelling narrative.
Speaker 1: It's like a real life Indiana Jones movie. Yeah, but
is there actually any evidence to support this conspiracy theory?
Speaker 2: Unfortunately not really. There's no smoking gun, no document that
proves the CIA was trying to cover up the truth
about ancient civilizations. It's mostly speculation and conjecture at this point.
Speaker 1: So what's the most likely explanation for the classification of
the Adam and Eve story? Was it national security concerns
or something else entirely?
Speaker 2: You know, the truth might be a lot more mundane
than we'd like to believe. The classification system isn't perfect, right.
Sometimes documents get classified out of an abundance of caution,
or even by mistake. It's possible the Adam and Eve
story was just caught up in a bureaucratic web, classified
without a thorough review of its contents. You know, maybe
someone just saw the words pull shift and ancient civilizations
and thought, oh, this sounds dangerous. Better slap a top
secret stamp.
Speaker 1: On it, so it could have been a simple bureaucratic blunder.
That's kind of anti climactic, it.
Speaker 2: Might be, But the fact that the book was classified
at all, and that it stayed classified for so long,
it adds to the mystique. It's like a riddle repped
in an enigma, you know, and that mystery is part
of what makes doctor Thomas's work so fascinating. It forces
us to question everything we thought we knew about our history,
our planet, even our place in the universe.
Speaker 1: It's like that saying, the more you know, the more
you realize you don't know. We've explored doctor Thomas's theories,
examined the evidence, and pondered the motivations of the CIA.
But I think the most important takeaway from all of
this is the importance of critical thinking.
Speaker 2: Oh. I completely agree. We need to be willing to
question our assumptions, to consider alternative perspectives, and to be
open to new information even if it challenges our beliefs.
Speaker 1: Exactly, we shouldn't blindly accept everything we hear, whether it's
from a scientist, a government agency, even a podcast host.
We need to do our own research, weigh the evidence,
and come to our own conclusions.
Speaker 2: That's the beauty of this whole process, isn't it. It's
a journey of exploration and discovery. It's about asking questions,
seeking answers, and constantly challenging our understanding of the world.
Speaker 1: Well said, so to our listeners, we leave you with
this final thought. If doctor Thomas's theories were even partially correct,
how would that change your understanding of history and your
place in the universe. It's a question worth pondering, Keep questioning,
keep searching, and keep diving deep until next time.