Speaker 1: All right, what's going on?
Speaker 2: Dry time, Monday afternoon, eight minutes past the hour of
Speaker 2: two o'clock, scorching hot Utah, August day outside, and as
Speaker 2: it is every single day, it's going to have you
Speaker 2: along for the ride.
Speaker 1: S bets check. It's back behind the mic. Good to
Speaker 1: be back. I always say it. I love taking time off.
Speaker 1: It's always great to leave, but.
Speaker 2: It's always great to be back, certainly this time of year,
Speaker 2: as we are a matter of days away from college football.
Speaker 2: That's right, Camp Kyle University of Utah getting ready for
Speaker 2: their opener. YU still trying to pick a quarterback. Probably
Speaker 2: nice for you fans not to not have to worry
Speaker 2: about that dynamic. All six of our in state D
Speaker 2: one teams have opened up fall camp, and we are
Speaker 2: high speed ahead to game day. So a lot of
Speaker 2: college football, not just on the show today, but we're
Speaker 2: going to start to move a lot of our coverage
Speaker 2: over into that space. Of course, one eye on the
Speaker 2: NBA offseason, one eye on the Utah Jazz. Of course,
Speaker 2: camps have opened in the NFL. We'll keep you up
Speaker 2: to date on any storylines concerning both pro and college
Speaker 2: football program. But fall is almost here, as we have
Speaker 2: officially turned our calendars to August.
Speaker 3: Great to have you guys with us. Thank you for
Speaker 3: making us a part of your day.
Speaker 2: A lot of options out there, so when you pick us,
Speaker 2: we very much appreciate it. My name is Spence Check.
Speaker 2: It's our host this program, Paul Larson producing the show today,
Speaker 2: and we are back together after some time off sharpening
Speaker 2: the sword. As they say, a little vacation. That's a
Speaker 2: Stephen Covey principle. RSL midweek Clash the League's Cup rolls
Speaker 2: on RSL playing a couple of matches last week, one
Speaker 2: a penalty kick shootout with the brilliance of their keeper
Speaker 2: off of Cabral and then lost the second PK shootout
Speaker 2: with a couple of players sending their PK attempts over
Speaker 2: the crossbar and a excellent performance from the opposing keeper.
Speaker 2: RSL back in league's action coming up this weekend in
Speaker 2: New York. Speaking of soccer, the Utah Royals trade Ali Sentinor,
Speaker 2: the number one pick from twenty twenty four, who was
Speaker 2: by far their best player, for a record financial hall,
Speaker 2: but no players in return. So a club ethos of
Speaker 2: selling players after they play well continues with the compendium
Speaker 2: of assets now controlled by the Miller family under that umbrella,
Speaker 2: So little RSL in the program. Of course, Lukadancic gets
Speaker 2: his MAX extension from the LA Lakers, celebrates it at
Speaker 2: a Backstreet Boys concert.
Speaker 1: My guy, my guy.
Speaker 2: Lebron James not present at the press conference, which, of
Speaker 2: course everybody's up in arms about as well. So some
Speaker 2: NBA offseason stuff. Darreon Fox got paid today with Spurs
Speaker 2: four years, two hundred and twenty nine mil. Dame Liller
Speaker 2: is back in state. He's the new general manager of
Speaker 2: Weaver State men's basketball. Of course, he still has NBA
Speaker 2: basketball to play of his own ride as he recovers
Speaker 2: from that Achilles. He's got a three year contract back
Speaker 2: with the Portland Trail Blazers. So a little bit of
Speaker 2: NBA offseason news, but not a ton going on. It's
Speaker 2: kind of the quiet time on the NBA calendar, So
Speaker 2: a lot of college football, lot of pro football. Little
Speaker 2: RSL on the show today. Cam Young a great story
Speaker 2: on the PGA Tour. Cameron Young wins the Windham Championship,
Speaker 2: becomes a one thousandth winner of the PGA Tour tournament.
Speaker 2: Cam is a bright young superstar in this sport. But
Speaker 2: when it comes to learning how to win golf tournaments,
Speaker 2: that is a progressive lesson that you have to learn
Speaker 2: step by step. Twelve top tens and seven runner ups
Speaker 2: in his I think this is his fourth year on
Speaker 2: tour and he smoked through the competition at the Windom
Speaker 2: bogied seventeen and eighteen and it didn't matter. He got
Speaker 2: an eight stroke lead after having five birdies in a
Speaker 2: row after bogeying one, Tony fenw Decent weekend for Tony.
Speaker 2: I don't know that the Ryder Cup will be part
Speaker 2: of his future. He finished at four under par, which
Speaker 2: is tied for forty fourth. So little golf, college football storylines,
Speaker 2: camp storylines. This camp has opened. We'll get to a
Speaker 2: bunch of that on the program. We have a good
Speaker 2: guest list today. We'll start things off with Belle Frasier
Speaker 2: covers the Utah Mammoth for the Salt Lake Tribune. And
Speaker 2: it was Mammoth Week last week that concluded in Saint
Speaker 2: George where Clayton Keller was signing autographs for some people
Speaker 2: down south. So the Mammoth have made a bunch of
Speaker 2: different editions. A couple of subtractions from that team that
Speaker 2: a really good year a season ago, So we'll get
Speaker 2: to some hockey storylines with Bell.
Speaker 3: One of our favorites from the Tribune.
Speaker 2: Josh Furlong, will stop by to talk some Utah football,
Speaker 2: some camp, Kyle, as we are just days away from
Speaker 2: an actual game that we'll be able to cover here
Speaker 2: on your home with the UTSPN seven hundred, we'll play
Speaker 2: you some sound from some camp.
Speaker 3: One of the things that I was listening.
Speaker 2: To earlier today and I just got I gotta chuckle
Speaker 2: out of it because a lot of the attentions surrounding
Speaker 2: the offensive line with a couple of all Big twelve
Speaker 2: potential players and maybe three or four NFL draft picks
Speaker 2: coach Wait when asked about he said, well, they better
Speaker 2: be good because everybody's telling them they're good, including me.
Speaker 2: So we'll get you some sound from coaches and players.
Speaker 2: Utah camp coming up. Pablo Mashjoenny will stop by, the
Speaker 2: head coach of RSL. It's the potentially busiest stretch of
Speaker 2: the year for our local soccer club, so we'll talk
Speaker 2: some lead cops the stretch run in MLS and some
Speaker 2: reinforcements on the way. As Pablo has alluded to on
Speaker 2: this show quite a bit. Bel Fraser, Josh for Along,
Speaker 2: Pablo Mastoinny, some camp sound from Utah Football camp, me
Speaker 2: Spence check its back in the chair, and Porter Larson,
Speaker 2: who typically lets that music role instead of my dry
Speaker 2: music bed.
Speaker 3: That makes me feel like I'm lost in an ethos.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We got to get that opening tip. Sponsor.
Speaker 2: Well, we've got to get our rhythm back. I mean,
Speaker 2: we haven't done a show together in like ten days.
Speaker 4: This too, you've been I don't know, gallivanting. Galavanting is
Speaker 4: one word.
Speaker 1: And yeah, so we got to, you know, got a reconfigure.
Speaker 1: I guess playing a lot. It's like a I don't know,
Speaker 1: a fall test run.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, played a lot of mediocre golf,
Speaker 2: sat by the pool quite a bit, tried to decompress.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this because you took some time
Speaker 2: off too. When I take time off from doing this
Speaker 2: radio show, I don't pay attention to my I deleted
Speaker 2: social media from my phone. I was not on Instagram,
Speaker 2: I was not on Twitter all week long, TikTok or
Speaker 2: whatever the hell the kids are doing these days. I
Speaker 2: turned off alerts from ESPN and Fox and Bleacher report
Speaker 2: and be like in less a because.
Speaker 3: I was with family all week. It was a family
Speaker 3: reunion situation.
Speaker 2: Like my cousin was like, Hey, who's going to start
Speaker 2: for BYU a quarterback mich will tune in next week
Speaker 2: two to six because I'm on vacation. You can listen
Speaker 2: to what I have to say next week when I'm
Speaker 2: back on air. You were off last week for a
Speaker 2: few days as well. When you take time off, do
Speaker 2: you pay attention to anything that happens in the sports world.
Speaker 4: No, but not necessarily with by choice. I'm not like,
Speaker 4: I'm not shunning the sports world by any means, but
Speaker 4: I'm usually in a deep canyon or at elevation where
Speaker 4: there is clearly no cell phone service. As you know, Spence,
Speaker 4: as you have probably gotten used to, if you try
Speaker 4: to get into with me outside of like normal sports
Speaker 4: times or showtime, you may get like the send with
Speaker 4: satellite or something because I'm just I'm not there, I'm
Speaker 4: not available. And then yeah, when I get down into
Speaker 4: cell phone service, I usually catch up on a bunch
Speaker 4: of stuff. This is always funny because it's not just
Speaker 4: the sports world for me. I will be often spent three,
Speaker 4: four or five days up in the mountains and then
Speaker 4: I'll come in back to reality. This happened last summer
Speaker 4: when a particular government official got shot. Right when you
Speaker 4: come back down into like a different state of the
Speaker 4: world or different news or breaking news, it's sometimes quite jarring.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's very regular for me. Here's how out
Speaker 1: of it I am.
Speaker 2: It took me about thirty seconds to remember which political
Speaker 2: official you're talking about who.
Speaker 1: Actually was shot. Yeah, but now I remember.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I came back down into the service and started
Speaker 4: getting like notifications that that happened over the weekend.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: Stuff starts to go crazy and then you see you know,
Speaker 4: nuclear nuclear talks. That's always fun to come back down
Speaker 4: into service too as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it is odd oftentimes I will pull
Speaker 3: my phone out to send you a text, and it's
Speaker 3: like you can only contact him via satellite, and I
Speaker 3: never want to do that because what if it charges
Speaker 3: me like an extra seventy box to send you a text.
Speaker 1: I think you can do it, Okay.
Speaker 4: I think because I have, you know, opted into being
Speaker 4: allowing that, I think you can do it.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 1: I'm not totally sure there, but okay, Well, welcome back.
Speaker 2: First show in ten days, we'll get our rhythm falls
Speaker 2: right around the corner. It's a great time to be
Speaker 2: on air, all right, Belle Fraser will be our first
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Speaker 2: zero h three. All right, opening tip style before we
Speaker 2: get to bell. College football is right around the corner.
Speaker 2: I'm not one that loves to do deep dives, certainly
Speaker 2: on the Coaches Poll the Coach's preseason Top twenty five Poll.
Speaker 2: But again this time of year, while we're all kind
Speaker 2: of just waiting for game, stuff like this is kind
Speaker 2: of fun to just kind of banter back and forth
Speaker 2: about the AP poll is a little more telling. The
Speaker 2: Coaches Poll, for anybody that's not familiar, oftentimes is filled
Speaker 2: out by like the assistant sid because I don't think
Speaker 2: coach Wit or any other coach wants to grind on
Speaker 2: a bunch of information about all these teams in order
Speaker 2: to accurately send in a list that really means anything.
Speaker 2: But we'll dig into it because college football is essentially here.
Speaker 2: We're going to have our Utah Football Welcome Event coming
Speaker 2: up next week. We'll tell you guys about that, where
Speaker 2: you can get some information hoping to give you opportunities
Speaker 2: to win some tickets, maybe to the opening game, or
Speaker 2: maybe we'll pick a game that's a little bit better
Speaker 2: besides cal Poly, I'll due respect. So this morning, the
Speaker 2: top twenty five ap us A Today Coach's Poll was released.
Speaker 2: The top kind of caught me a little bit off.
Speaker 2: Guard Texas is one. Then it's Ohio State, Penn State, Georgia,
Speaker 2: and Notre Dame. What's kind of weird here is Penn
Speaker 2: State is favored to win the Big Ten this year,
Speaker 2: yet they're behind Ohio State in this poll. Georgia, Ford,
Speaker 2: Notre Dame five, Clemson six. They got two first place votes.
Speaker 2: Then it's Oregon, Bama, LSU, Miami fill out the top ten.
Speaker 2: Your highest ranked Big twelve school is Arizona State. They
Speaker 2: come in at eleven. As we continue to kind of
Speaker 2: scroll down a little bit, the next Big twelve team
Speaker 2: is Kansas at twenty. Excuse me, Kansas State at twenty.
Speaker 2: So the Big Twelve two teams in the top twenty
Speaker 2: Arizona State eleven, Kansas State at twenty. Iowa State just
Speaker 2: locked in their coach for a long term deal. Matt
Speaker 2: Campbell is going to be around there for quite some time.
Speaker 2: They come in at twenty one. And then kind of
Speaker 2: interesting BYU at twenty three, Texas Tech at twenty four.
Speaker 2: So representing the big twelve is Arizona State at eleven,
Speaker 2: Kansas State at twenty, Iowa State at twenty one, BYU
Speaker 2: at twenty three, Texas Tech at twenty four. When you
Speaker 2: go down the list of others receiving votes, if you
Speaker 2: just kind of do it this way, Boise State twenty five,
Speaker 2: so Oklahoma would be twenty six, Missouri twenty seven, Louisville
Speaker 2: twenty eight, USC twenty nine, and the Utah comes in
Speaker 2: with eighty six points, which would put them at thirty
Speaker 2: ahead of Baylor right behind them. So I think the
Speaker 2: biggest takeaway for me was this quarterback situation of Brigham
Speaker 2: Young does not seem to be really dissuading people from
Speaker 2: being high on them, and I guess I'm.
Speaker 1: Not all that surprised.
Speaker 2: As we've discussed Jake Rehetz Laugh who has now taken
Speaker 2: his talents to Tulane. Jake was asked about BYU during
Speaker 2: his introductory press conference when the media Tulane had their
Speaker 2: first chance to interview him.
Speaker 1: He said very nice things, very nice.
Speaker 2: Things about his experience at BYU that obviously featured a
Speaker 2: lot of highs last year as a starting quarterback that
Speaker 2: led them to an eleven win season and an alimoble
Speaker 2: win over Colorado, and of course a pretty embarrassing ending
Speaker 2: to the whole thing. And when I say embarrassing, I'm
Speaker 2: not putting that on one person or the other. It
Speaker 2: was just, you know, an unfortunate end to a situation
Speaker 2: that for a long time was pretty.
Speaker 3: Good for BYU.
Speaker 2: The quarterback competition is something that Kilanie and a Rod
Speaker 2: have shown that history and data tells us they're good
Speaker 2: at this, whether it was Zach Wilson, Jaron Hall, or
Speaker 2: Jerry Bohannon on Jake Retzov a season ago. You know,
Speaker 2: this is not the first time they've had to decide
Speaker 2: who's going to be under center. It looks like and
Speaker 2: everybody's saying the right thing. It looks like it does
Speaker 2: come down to McKay Hillstead, who has eight starts under
Speaker 2: his belt at Utah Stay as a freshman. He does
Speaker 2: know a Rod system. He was in the program a
Speaker 2: year ago, didn't play, so he does have some starting experience.
Speaker 2: Not a big kid, had some good moments of Utah State.
Speaker 2: I believe he is a red shirt sophomore. The Tracon
Speaker 2: Borgay kid is a red shirt junior. Borgay has kind
Speaker 2: of the same experience that McKay has when it comes
Speaker 2: to starting for a group of five schools. He was
Speaker 2: at Western Michigan for a couple of years, did not
Speaker 2: play a year ago. Then there's a lot of momentum
Speaker 2: in the direction of the Bear Bachmeyer kid. He's a
Speaker 2: true freshman, played his spring ball at Stanford. His name
Speaker 2: is Bear Bachmeyer and his brother is Tiger Bachmeyer.
Speaker 1: Porter.
Speaker 2: Will you please f Baron Tiger Bachmeyer's mother and father.
Speaker 1: For the program, Just for the explanation.
Speaker 3: I have so many questions. A bear and a tiger.
Speaker 3: It's a family thing.
Speaker 2: Actually, wait, are there additional children that are also named after.
Speaker 1: Animals like grandparents? I think?
Speaker 4: Seriously, Yes, I saw an interview. I don't know exactly,
Speaker 4: so I can't tell you, but I did see Bear talk.
Speaker 2: Okay, before you come on air and report something, make
Speaker 2: sure you're reporting it accurately.
Speaker 1: Pace Okay, thank you, I am so. Will you effort
Speaker 1: the parents? Yes, thank you. So there you go.
Speaker 2: Those are the three names being bantied about. Of course,
Speaker 2: on the Utah side of things, it's very very nice
Speaker 2: that the quarterback position is solidified, you know, and we
Speaker 2: won't do the revisionist history about Cameron Rising over and
Speaker 2: over and over as he is now medically retired from football.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be an offensive coordinator for his high school
Speaker 2: football team. But certainly it was probably time for everybody
Speaker 2: to move on. And it's kind of a comforting thing
Speaker 2: now for Utah fans not have to sweat about who
Speaker 2: who's going to be the starter and what that quarterback
Speaker 2: room looks like. Coach Witt on a couple of different occasions,
Speaker 2: has saying the praises of the bird Fickland kid. And
Speaker 2: I just have to wonder, because there's always been this
Speaker 2: interesting kind of conversation around well, Zach Wilson certainly, and
Speaker 2: of course Isaac, his little brother, Like there is so
Speaker 2: much natural talent with those kids. Wilson boys can throw
Speaker 2: a football man, make no mistake about that. I wonder
Speaker 2: whether or not this kind of what I perceive to
Speaker 2: be forced conversation about the Fickland kid, is that a
Speaker 2: message to Zach, like you need to be better than
Speaker 2: you were a year ago. And I'm not blaming what
Speaker 2: happened a year ago on Zach he was a freshman quarterback,
Speaker 2: really thrown into a tremendously difficult scenario, and by his
Speaker 2: own admission, just wasn't ready. I mean, if you want
Speaker 2: to give Isaac anything last year, give him credit for
Speaker 2: his self awareness about the mistakes he was making, the
Speaker 2: work he has to put into improve.
Speaker 3: You know, you just have to.
Speaker 2: Wonder whether or not when you have natural talent like
Speaker 2: those Wilson boys have, oftentimes you're able to simply dominate
Speaker 2: the high school scene, dominate the Pop Warner scene, dominate
Speaker 2: the youth football scene, to the point where maybe you
Speaker 2: don't have to put in the work until you realize
Speaker 2: that you're at the next level. And if you want
Speaker 2: to continue to take the step up, you've got to
Speaker 2: combine the talent with the work ethic. You got to
Speaker 2: show up for film, you've got to study, you've got
Speaker 2: to be a good team teammate. Let me be clear,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Isaac isn't any of these things. But
Speaker 2: I do believe that qb room is solidified, whether or
Speaker 2: not it's been announced or not at the University of Utah,
Speaker 2: and obviously the offensive line is going to be paramount
Speaker 2: to the success of this team. This year seems like
Speaker 2: every single preseason publication I read, or every preseason podcast
Speaker 2: I tune into. The first thing that's talked about with
Speaker 2: the University of Utah is Jim Hardin's positional group.
Speaker 3: And again, we're gonna let you hear some sound.
Speaker 2: A little bit later on, I got to chuckle out
Speaker 2: of Kyle basically saying, well, yeah, the offensive line is
Speaker 2: going to be good. Oh well, they better be good
Speaker 2: because everybody's telling them that they're good, including me. The
Speaker 2: one positional group, and Sean and I talked about this
Speaker 2: during cross talk. They continues to be a question, and
Speaker 2: Devin's talked about this himself. You'll hear from Devin dan
Speaker 2: Pier on the show a little bit later. Who's going
Speaker 2: to catch a football? What does that wide receiver group
Speaker 2: look like? How ingrained will the tight end be juxtaposed
Speaker 2: to the way coach Ludd liked to use tight ends.
Speaker 2: It's a different offense, it's a different feel. I think
Speaker 2: a lot of you fans are excited for that. Maybe
Speaker 2: a little bit of a different kind of approach that
Speaker 2: might be a little bit more wide open and entertaining.
Speaker 2: And then, obviously, every year and every time there is
Speaker 2: a switch of the position. We discussed the relationship between
Speaker 2: coach Wait and his offensive coordinator. How does that work?
Speaker 2: You know Coach Beck, how much you know cart Blanche?
Speaker 1: Does he get?
Speaker 2: How much freedom does he get to do exactly what
Speaker 2: he wants to do? And those two have discussed it
Speaker 2: a little bit throughout the course of the preseason as
Speaker 2: they've been asked the question. So it feels like the
Speaker 2: optimism at the University of Utah right now is pretty high.
Speaker 2: And you'll hear the sound later on where most players
Speaker 2: who are asked about the dynamic discuss the positive energy
Speaker 2: in the moment, momentum and the excitement. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: fun to be back on campus. I'm living close to campus.
Speaker 2: You can kind of feel the buzz. The school is
Speaker 2: going to get going here in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Hopefully they finish the construction on first. Let me just
Speaker 2: throw that out there, but the school is going to
Speaker 2: be here soon. Football is going to be here soon.
Speaker 2: We've got the USA Today Coaches Top twenty five pool
Speaker 2: that came out today BYU at twenty three Utah among
Speaker 2: the teams receiving votes. We will get back to some
Speaker 2: college football today with Josh Furlong covers the utes for ESPN,
Speaker 2: or excuse me, covers the utes for KSL.
Speaker 3: We are ESPN seven hundred. He will join us.
Speaker 2: We have camp sound later on as fall camps are
Speaker 2: underway for all six of our D one teams here
Speaker 2: locally RSL with a midweek clash coming up for Leak's
Speaker 2: Cup Action. So Pablo mash Ruddy stops by, but we
Speaker 2: are going to blink and it is going to be
Speaker 2: time for the second season of The Utah Mammoth here
Speaker 2: in our market, and our next guest covers the Mammoth
Speaker 2: for the saut Lake Belle Frasier on a Monday afternoon.
Speaker 1: Hello Bell, Happy Monday. How are you good?
Speaker 7: How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good?
Speaker 2: So any downtime, any vacation. I mean, this is kind
Speaker 2: of the time of year, Bell, where if you're going
Speaker 2: to take some vacation, it feels like this has got
Speaker 2: to be it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no official vacation. I went back to New York
Speaker 7: and Boston where all my friends and family are for
Speaker 7: two weeks. Wrote some stories there, but was definitely nice
Speaker 7: to not be so deep in the Utel Mamus news
Speaker 7: for a second take a bit of the air and
Speaker 7: now I'm so ready for the season to start, really
Speaker 7: counting down the days until even training camp from preseason
Speaker 7: just so we can get things going for sure.
Speaker 1: All right, Bell, here's where I want to start.
Speaker 2: What gives you the most confidence that next season, that
Speaker 2: proverbial next step will be taken and we could actually
Speaker 2: experience Stanley Cup playoff hockey in Salt Lake.
Speaker 7: I think the obvious answer there, and the easy one
Speaker 7: I guess is you're seeing who they brought in so
Speaker 7: far this summer, and I think the biggest top six
Speaker 7: to reinforcement is JJ Peterca, who they traded for from
Speaker 7: the Buffalo Sabers. You know, they traded Michael Kessing and
Speaker 7: Josh Stone, who I know people were very sad to
Speaker 7: see leave, but they didn't have to give up any
Speaker 7: prospects or for its overall pick. This trade came before
Speaker 7: the draft, and I know people were nervous that maybe
Speaker 7: they would have to give up the pick to get
Speaker 7: someone like the Turka, but they did it. And what's
Speaker 7: really good about him is his age. You know, he's
Speaker 7: right in the range of Logan Cooley and Dylan Gunther.
Speaker 7: He's twenty three, and his ceiling's really high and he
Speaker 7: is a finisher. He had a thirty goal season, and
Speaker 7: you know, I've talked to a lot of Buffalo media
Speaker 7: and they think that he's going to score a lot
Speaker 7: more throughout the throughout his career and he's going to
Speaker 7: be happier in Utah. You know, there are reports that
Speaker 7: he just didn't want to be in Buffalo and he
Speaker 7: kind of forced his way out of there. So I
Speaker 7: think the new environment, the new setup, and a team
Speaker 7: that's really on an upward trajectory for him, that'll give
Speaker 7: him an opportunity to play top minutes, to be on
Speaker 7: the power play will be really important for Utah because
Speaker 7: is that something that they were missing a bit last year,
Speaker 7: you know, going into a third period being down a
Speaker 7: goal or not being able to extend the lead. They
Speaker 7: had trouble scoring. So I think someone like the Turka
Speaker 7: is important. And then you also just look at the
Speaker 7: more veteran leadership they brought in Brandon tanneb and Nate Schmidt,
Speaker 7: the defenseman. Nate Schmidt just won a Stanley Cup with
Speaker 7: the Florida Panthers and we got in the media call
Speaker 7: with him and he was hilarious. He has a really
Speaker 7: out their personality, which I think will be good for
Speaker 7: the room. He has an edge to him as he plays,
Speaker 7: so he'll be a good third pair, you know, defensive
Speaker 7: depths for them. And then brand of tanneb too also
Speaker 7: has spark to him, and he talked about it. He
Speaker 7: wants to bring energy to the bottom six and he'll
Speaker 7: score and he'll do what he can, but he'll hit
Speaker 7: and you know, he just adds a little sandpaper for them.
Speaker 7: And then lastly, I think you look at their depths
Speaker 7: and goaltending. They brought in v tech Fanicheck, who also
Speaker 7: was on the Florida Panthers last year as you know,
Speaker 7: second string, third string goalie. But I think that just
Speaker 7: adds some insurance for Utah. You know, we're not sure
Speaker 7: when Connor Ingram will come back. So I think they
Speaker 7: really shored up the areas where they needed one to
Speaker 7: two more guys they didn't get them. Mitch Marner had
Speaker 7: a huge names that may be headlined this summer. But
Speaker 7: they got better in areas that they were lacking last
Speaker 7: year and now it's just a matter of them building
Speaker 7: chemistry with those new guys.
Speaker 1: Do you have an update on Connor?
Speaker 2: I mean I was going to ask that as a
Speaker 2: follow up, And obviously it's a very sensitive information or
Speaker 2: a sensitive situation, and the information is sensitive too, and
Speaker 2: the club has of course been great to make sure
Speaker 2: that he gets the helped and he needs.
Speaker 1: But do you know where we're at with that process now?
Speaker 7: Yeah, last time we talked to Bill Armstrong, he said
Speaker 7: that Ingram's been in the assistant program, that he's doing well,
Speaker 7: and that they're hoping for the best for him. You know,
Speaker 7: we also heard that he was playing in a men's
Speaker 7: league recently, kind of getting his fitness back, but Bill
Speaker 7: Armstrong declined to comment on any timeline for his return
Speaker 7: or you know, the specifics. He said he wanted to
Speaker 7: keep those within the organization, which is understandable give in
Speaker 7: the sensitivity of the situation. But you know, it's definitely
Speaker 7: something from the business side of a team that they
Speaker 7: had to think about. And I think that shows with
Speaker 7: how they brought in v Tech Fancheck, because training camp
Speaker 7: is a month away now and I think they're just
Speaker 7: making sure that they're ready for any situation. So that's
Speaker 7: all we have on Ingram right now. It sounds like
Speaker 7: he's making progress, but there's been no subsistence you know, return.
Speaker 1: Date for him still some money.
Speaker 2: According to the numbers I have in front of me,
Speaker 2: he's still six million change to potentially bring in other players.
Speaker 2: Do you think this is the group or do you
Speaker 2: think that money will be used to add a little depth.
Speaker 7: I think this is probably the group, But I think
Speaker 7: if they were going to do anything before the season starts,
Speaker 7: it might be a trade, and I don't think they will.
Speaker 7: But I think if they were to do something, I
Speaker 7: don't see them using the rest of their cap space,
Speaker 7: just because you know, Bill Armstrong is super responsible, and
Speaker 7: he also has will Big Fooley, who could be up
Speaker 7: for an extension this year, same situation as Kill and
Speaker 7: Gunther was in last year, and gun they extended for
Speaker 7: eight years in September. So I don't think fans should
Speaker 7: be freaking out that Coolly hasn't extended yet, especially with
Speaker 7: the cap going up for the next few seasons. Seasons
Speaker 7: in the NHL, negotiations are probably tougher and he'll still
Speaker 7: be with the team next year if he doesn't extend.
Speaker 7: But I think because there are players that they still
Speaker 7: need to lock up, they'll probably try to keep that
Speaker 7: cap space. And you know, they also resigned Jack mcdain,
Speaker 7: who is an RSA for a bit higher than fans
Speaker 7: or the team probably wanted to, but it's because he
Speaker 7: would have been a USA in two years, so they
Speaker 7: had to pay for those years. He got four point
Speaker 7: two five million dollars on his average annual value. So
Speaker 7: I think they, you know, they put their money where
Speaker 7: they wanted it, and I don't see them overspending for
Speaker 7: something because right now, I mean the internal competition that
Speaker 7: they have with the players they have right now, their prospects,
Speaker 7: the guy that Tucson is probably the best it's in
Speaker 7: for this organization. So they have the bodies that they need,
Speaker 7: and I don't think there's a glaring pool for them
Speaker 7: after the moves that Bill has done already.
Speaker 2: Well, it's been a minute since you and I have
Speaker 2: been able to catch up, and I know you've been
Speaker 2: asked about the Michael Carcony story, but I wonder for
Speaker 2: my audience in this space if you could elaborate a bit.
Speaker 2: I mean, I can remember watching that post game presser
Speaker 2: when he essentially was like, yeah, it's not going to work.
Speaker 2: And look, you always want to leave space for people
Speaker 2: to have emotional reactions and things like making a living
Speaker 2: in contracts and money make all of us emotional. So
Speaker 2: no issue at all for the about face. But how
Speaker 2: did this, how did this play out?
Speaker 7: Yeah? So exit day interviews back in what was that April?
Speaker 7: I think at the Deata Center, you know, guys talk
Speaker 7: about who there's seasons when, and usually if you're a
Speaker 7: UFA or RFA, you aren't as direct as Michael Carconi was.
Speaker 7: But as journalists we appreciate it, you know, we appreciate
Speaker 7: him just coming in and speaking his mind. But on
Speaker 7: that day in April, he said, you know, I love
Speaker 7: the They're a great group. I don't think there's going
Speaker 7: to be an answer, a direct quote. He said, I
Speaker 7: don't think we're going to agree on anything. I spoke
Speaker 7: to the coaching staff and management, and I think we're
Speaker 7: going to go in different directions. And we asked, you
Speaker 7: know why he was feeling that way, and he felt
Speaker 7: he wasn't given big enough of an opportunity for Utah
Speaker 7: last year. You know, the year before in Arizona he
Speaker 7: had twenty goals, and then last year for Utah he
Speaker 7: was usually the thirteenth forward. He was healthy, scratched a
Speaker 7: lot when he was in the lineup. He was bottom six,
Speaker 7: so his numbers went down, but also his games played
Speaker 7: went down. And I think that was a good problem
Speaker 7: from an organizational level for Utah because it meant that
Speaker 7: the younger guys were getting better and forcing their way
Speaker 7: into the lineup. You look at someone like Josh Jones,
Speaker 7: who's no longer there, but Dylan Gunster and Jack mcvain
Speaker 7: and those types of players. But it definitely cost Carconi.
Speaker 7: So he was going out into the free agent market
Speaker 7: and nothing had bit, you know, for the first couple
Speaker 7: of weeks, and on was a couple of week. July
Speaker 7: fifteenth or sixteenth, he signed a one year contract with
Speaker 7: the Mammoth for seven hundred and seventy five thousand dollars,
Speaker 7: which was the same average annual value as his last contract.
Speaker 7: And when we talked to him after the signing, he said,
Speaker 7: you know, he didn't want to be taken out of
Speaker 7: context for his exit day interview. He said that he
Speaker 7: always wanted to be in Utah, but like you were saying,
Speaker 7: frustrations run high. He had just talked to the coaching staff,
Speaker 7: so he kind of walked back on not his want
Speaker 7: to leave, but his thought that he wouldn't be part
Speaker 7: of the future of the franchise. I think it's a
Speaker 7: fine signing for them. I mean, I don't think Carconi
Speaker 7: is going to have a huge role, but he likes
Speaker 7: playing with a chip on his shoulder. He said he
Speaker 7: knows he has a lot to prove coming in in
Speaker 7: his situation. But I imagine he's probably an extra forward
Speaker 7: or bottom six player again, just because of his size,
Speaker 7: his stats last year, and just the guys Utah has
Speaker 7: coming in. But he proves people wrong. He proved people wrong,
Speaker 7: and I think a lot of fans would like to
Speaker 7: see that.
Speaker 2: Any specific takeaways from the schedule release, I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: seeing that eleven of the first fifteen games are on
Speaker 2: the road, which is a tough start, but obviously they'll
Speaker 2: come back around. You play the same amount of road
Speaker 2: games as you do home games. But as you kind
Speaker 2: of dug into that schedule release, Bell, what were some
Speaker 2: of your main takeaways.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's exactly what you said. They have a really
Speaker 7: tough start to the year. I think it was something
Speaker 7: like sixteen of twenty or sixteen to thirty or something
Speaker 7: to start the season or on the road, but you know,
Speaker 7: they were a really good road team last year. Actually,
Speaker 7: they struggled at home more so, so you might think
Speaker 7: it's a good thing for them to find their footing
Speaker 7: and bond as a team and be on the planes
Speaker 7: and hotels together and figure out their identity for the
Speaker 7: team on the road before they come to Delta Center
Speaker 7: and show off for year two, they start with a
Speaker 7: three game road trip Colorado, Nashville, and Chicago before coming
Speaker 7: back to Delta Center on October fifteenth for opening night
Speaker 7: against the Calgaryes for Lanes be a four game homestand
Speaker 7: so I think for them it'll test them immediately, which
Speaker 7: is a good thing. You know, a lot of the
Speaker 7: players have talked about not having that slump in the
Speaker 7: beginning of the season like they did last year, starting
Speaker 7: on time, and like you said, every team goes through
Speaker 7: hard stretches in the schedule. I don't think you can
Speaker 7: use it as an excuse for a poor record or
Speaker 7: poor showing. So I don't think Utah will use it
Speaker 7: as that at all. And I think you know one
Speaker 7: game or that people have circled on their calendar, obviously
Speaker 7: the divisional opponents because those points matter more. And then
Speaker 7: also I believe November twelfth, the Buffalo Sabers come to
Speaker 7: town and that will be Josh Jone and Michael Kessing's
Speaker 7: homecoming as well, So there's definitely, you know, great matchups
Speaker 7: to start the year. And although it's one of the
Speaker 7: tougher road schedules, I think it'll probably make the team
Speaker 7: better and if not, they'll just have to learn from
Speaker 7: it as every other organization does.
Speaker 2: How much of the road heavy schedule early on has
Speaker 2: to do with the renovations of the building bill.
Speaker 7: That's what we thought, but they're scheduled to play preseason
Speaker 7: games at Delta Center. Their last two preseason games, I
Speaker 7: believe at the end of September are scheduled to be
Speaker 7: at Delta Center, and those will be the first you
Speaker 7: know event at Delta Center since the renovations, so I
Speaker 7: imagine those games won't be the full effect. There will
Speaker 7: definitely be things that aren't fully ready yet, but supposedly
Speaker 7: as of now, those are supposed to be at the
Speaker 7: arena and we haven't gotten you know, any changes on that,
Speaker 7: so I'm sure it helped the Delta Center crew that
Speaker 7: they'll be gone for the first week of this season,
Speaker 7: but I don't think that's because there's any delays or
Speaker 7: change in schedule for the renovations. I think that's all
Speaker 7: on track, and you know, this just gives them a
Speaker 7: bit more time to get everything ready for opening nights.
Speaker 2: So having an interesting conversation. I had a little family
Speaker 2: reunion last week and chance to catch up with a
Speaker 2: lot of my family who I don't see very much,
Speaker 2: who are big sports fans, and we were just kind
Speaker 2: of pairing the project of the Jazz rebuild to the
Speaker 2: project of the Mammoth rebuild, and the Mammoth are much
Speaker 2: further along. I think this is probably year five or
Speaker 2: six of a rebuild, and the Jazz, I mean, it
Speaker 2: depends on what their messaging is, which seems to change
Speaker 2: day to day. Now it's like, no, we actually were
Speaker 2: tearing it down and the rebuild starts now. So the
Speaker 2: Mammoth are further along than the Jazz are. And I'm
Speaker 2: just wondering Bell. Throughout the course of your time here
Speaker 2: covering the team, talking to players that have been traded
Speaker 2: to Utah or draft picks that have been drafted to Utah.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit different when you're a draft pick
Speaker 2: because typically you're young, and ultimately you work for the
Speaker 2: organization of the NHL Hockey league, and you have been
Speaker 2: assigned to the Salt Lake City office, and I feel
Speaker 2: like you're more inclined just to accept it and be excited.
Speaker 2: Do you sense any pushback at all for hockey players
Speaker 2: wanting to come to our market and stay here for
Speaker 2: quite some time. It's just it's the main thing that
Speaker 2: the Jazz have run into for a number of years.
Speaker 2: They've been able to draft, they've been able to develop,
Speaker 2: but they just can't retain. And if you're going to
Speaker 2: win trophies, you have to retain. Do you think the
Speaker 2: manmuth they're going to run into any issues that way?
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I mean, I think there's been a clear shift with
Speaker 7: the NHL and NHL players and NHL fans perspective on Utah.
Speaker 7: And I know you're saying how the draft picks don't
Speaker 7: really have a choice to be in Utah, but I
Speaker 7: think the narrative around them has been really different for
Speaker 7: the NHL. And I was actually talking to you know,
Speaker 7: Andy Larson, our Jazz writer, because it was around the
Speaker 7: time where all the Ace Bailey drama was happening and
Speaker 7: then these which got resolved. But these Utah players get
Speaker 7: drafted and you know a lot of them were saying
Speaker 7: I wanted to be in Utah. I was hoping I
Speaker 7: got drafted by Utah. I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 7: The mountains are so beautiful, like this is one of
Speaker 7: the top teams in the NHL. I'm so excited to
Speaker 7: be in this organization. And it was It's a distinct,
Speaker 7: you know, change in narrative from what I think has
Speaker 7: been reported about the Jazz in the past. And we
Speaker 7: talked about this before free agency open for the NHL
Speaker 7: that it was going to be really interesting if they
Speaker 7: had to overpay for players or if they were able
Speaker 7: to land any players, and they were. I mean, they
Speaker 7: landed two Stanley Cup champions in Schmid and Banichek, and
Speaker 7: then Brandon Tannev. Although they'll be you know, bottom six,
Speaker 7: more debt veteran role, he's a legit NHLer and guys
Speaker 7: who have been around the league and seen different markets.
Speaker 7: So I think that's a really good sign for the
Speaker 7: Mammoth and the fans in front office that guys did
Speaker 7: sign here during free agency, and a lot of guys
Speaker 7: resigned as well, you know, Ian Cole resigned, Alex Kurfett resigned,
Speaker 7: Jack McBain resigned, Dylan Gunther resigned. Those are pieces of
Speaker 7: your core moving forward. JJ Paterca, although it was a trade,
Speaker 7: he kind of had to say. He forces himself out
Speaker 7: of Buffalo and found a team that would work for him.
Speaker 7: So I think that should be a positive note for
Speaker 7: Mammoth fans seeing that players are willing to take the
Speaker 7: chance on Utah. And I think there won't be an
Speaker 7: official answer until, you know, probably five to eight to
Speaker 7: ten years, when the team is here and you can
Speaker 7: actually see a pattern form or real opinions after the
Speaker 7: first or second year. But I think for the way
Speaker 7: they introduce themselves to the league and to the country
Speaker 7: and to hockey fans, players want to be here. And
Speaker 7: you know, it's only been positive feedback from us as
Speaker 7: the media. We haven't you heard anything of they don't
Speaker 7: want to be here or anything of that sort.
Speaker 2: What sort of information can you share with our hockey
Speaker 2: fan listeners about the new experience in the building Once
Speaker 2: everything is done once and it may bleed into next season.
Speaker 2: Anybody who's ever bought a house, or built a house,
Speaker 2: or a bad construction on anything, quite frankly understands that
Speaker 2: these things are always delayed. But once that is completely done.
Speaker 2: What sort of changes are in store? What can you
Speaker 2: share there?
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, it's going to be multi year project. I
Speaker 7: think they're sayings three to five off seasons because since
Speaker 7: the Jazz and Mammoth are there, they only have the
Speaker 7: summers to do the renovations. But this year they focus
Speaker 7: on the lower bowl and just improving site lines for
Speaker 7: those seats. Then throughout the arena, when it's one hundred
Speaker 7: percent done, every view will be full. There won't be
Speaker 7: any blockages like there were last year. But they've blown
Speaker 7: out the entire lower bowl and they're raising it by
Speaker 7: three feet I believe I'm pushing it back. So the
Speaker 7: views that people love for the NBA and the upclose
Speaker 7: nature of the Delta Center is still there. But the
Speaker 7: actual like I'm trying to think of the word, but
Speaker 7: it won't be a seat for hockey fans, so they'll
Speaker 7: be able to see both goals. There won't be any
Speaker 7: parts of the ice cut off, so that's kind of
Speaker 7: the tangible things they're working on. And then in the
Speaker 7: end of the project, there's going to be a new
Speaker 7: parking garage, there'll be a downtown plaza, you know, the
Speaker 7: entire downtown area around the Delta Center is kind of
Speaker 7: being reinvented, but people are going to have to wait
Speaker 7: a bit for that. And I think the biggest thing
Speaker 7: that we haven't even been let in on because it's
Speaker 7: going to be a surprise on opening night is just
Speaker 7: all the branding around the Mammoth. It's hard to even
Speaker 7: remember the Utah Hockey Club branding now, so it feels
Speaker 7: like this team has been the Mammoth forever. But the
Speaker 7: new in game activations, the merch, everything on the JumboTron.
Speaker 7: I think it's going to be really cool to see
Speaker 7: how they bring this brand into life in an in
Speaker 7: game situation instead of just the social media stuff we've
Speaker 7: been seeing for the last few months. So I think
Speaker 7: that's probably the biggest thing that fans should look forward to.
Speaker 2: You and I were spoiled as young hockey fans growing
Speaker 2: up going to the Garden, so this question might be
Speaker 2: a little bit unfair, but I'm wondering Bell, when you
Speaker 2: took the job, what you were expecting as it pertained
Speaker 2: to atmosphere and fan participation year one for the Mammoth,
Speaker 2: and then did the experience meet or exceed those expectations?
Speaker 7: Definitely exceed, I mean I think I had no idea
Speaker 7: what to expect in the first place, and the players
Speaker 7: and coaches have said the same thing. But I think
Speaker 7: I wrote about this in mccolumn, but Opening Night was
Speaker 7: so special and magical because I think you saw that
Speaker 7: you tossed those up and Ryan Smith and everyone here
Speaker 7: had been saying it for years when they finally got
Speaker 7: the NHL team, and it was true. And that was
Speaker 7: one of my favorite parts of this entire season, was
Speaker 7: just watching this community fall so in love with hockey
Speaker 7: but also be so dedicated. I mean, there wasn't one
Speaker 7: night at the Delta Center this year where it wasn't
Speaker 7: sold out or close to sold out and loud, and
Speaker 7: people asking questions and coming up to us and creating
Speaker 7: new chants and creating new fan tradition, so beyond the hockey,
Speaker 7: I think that's been the best part of being in
Speaker 7: Utah so far, is just seeing how these fans have
Speaker 7: embraced the teams have embraced the league. And I imagine
Speaker 7: that just, you know, times one hundred for next season
Speaker 7: because a lot of people are more excited about it.
Speaker 7: But yeah, definitely excudd expectations, and I think it surprised
Speaker 7: a lot of people, just in the NHL and in
Speaker 7: hockey in general. A pleasant surprise for sure, So it'll
Speaker 7: be cool to see how that kind of grows the
Speaker 7: next few years.
Speaker 2: Do you have any inside insight or maybe inside information
Speaker 2: about how ticket sales are going? I mean, tickets are available,
Speaker 2: and then in addition to that corporate sponsorships. As far
Speaker 2: as how this team is being supported, we oftentimes on
Speaker 2: this show expand that conversation to all of our products here,
Speaker 2: our sports properties here, and then the potential of the
Speaker 2: Miller's bringing Major League Baseball.
Speaker 1: I know we're growing.
Speaker 2: We're growing as far as the population goes, We're growing
Speaker 2: as far as simply economic stimulation goes. Business is moving
Speaker 2: here and such. But is the hockey team being supported
Speaker 2: with ticket sales corporate sponsorship the way it needs to?
Speaker 7: It seems like it is. I'm not sure about corporate sponsorships.
Speaker 7: I mean, I can reach out to SEG about that.
Speaker 7: That's more obviously corporate. But in terms of ticket sales,
Speaker 7: it sounds like a lot of people have put in
Speaker 7: deposits for season tickets. You know, last year when they
Speaker 7: opened it, before the games even started, they sold out
Speaker 7: of the deposits. On the very first day, and we
Speaker 7: interact with a lot of fans on Twitter, and a
Speaker 7: bunch of people who just had single game tickets last
Speaker 7: year committed to half season or full season tickets this year.
Speaker 7: So yes, I don't have you know, exact numbers. I
Speaker 7: think they'll release those closer to the season when everything
Speaker 7: is sold out, and we'll get you know, the preseason numbers.
Speaker 7: But it really seems like the support is coming through
Speaker 7: in ticket sales, and I think you can just see
Speaker 7: it in the prices of tickets too. Unfortunately, it's not
Speaker 7: cheap to get into Delta Center, you know. I was
Speaker 7: looking at the prices the other day, and for opening night,
Speaker 7: I think the cheapest ticket to get in the door
Speaker 7: is two hundred and fifty dollars. So the only reasons
Speaker 7: the tickets are super expensive out here right now is
Speaker 7: because of the demand and because there's so few left.
Speaker 7: So I think that's a good sign. And yeah, like
Speaker 7: I said, we'll get specifics on that closer to the season,
Speaker 7: but from the general feel of it, it seems like
Speaker 7: people are going to fill out Delta Center for year two.
Speaker 2: All right, Bell, before I say you, Louise, tell us
Speaker 2: about Mammoth Week. I'm kind of learning about this in
Speaker 2: real time. What did the hockey club? And I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that as their name. I'm just referring to the
Speaker 2: Utah Mammoth as a hockey club. So everybody calmed down, Yeah,
Speaker 2: what what was Mammoth Week?
Speaker 1: What did this entail?
Speaker 7: It was a really cool initiative from the team. It was,
Speaker 7: you know, a statewide summer event and they stopped in
Speaker 7: seven locations. It was Logan, Provo, Park City, Cottonwood, Ogden, Enich,
Speaker 7: and Saint George for like a week July twenty sixth
Speaker 7: to August twelfth, and they did you know, different merph
Speaker 7: set ups. They did ball, hockey, street hockey, on ice,
Speaker 7: affordable clinics, and they had special guests that each stopped
Speaker 7: from the team. It was a lot of you know,
Speaker 7: the SEG broadcast team. And then Clayton Keller was in
Speaker 7: Saint George on August second for the final day. He
Speaker 7: was taking pictures, signing jerseys, talking to fans and you know,
Speaker 7: the main purpose of it was to just get hockey
Speaker 7: and the NHL team outside of downtown and throughout the
Speaker 7: entire state. And I was talking to Minete Malonell, who
Speaker 7: everyone knows is to play by play announcer for the team,
Speaker 7: and he was on a couple of the branches of
Speaker 7: the Mammoth Week tour and he said he was blown
Speaker 7: away by the outcome and how many people showed up
Speaker 7: and how many kids so excited even though they were
Speaker 7: a six hour drive from Delta Center at the time.
Speaker 7: So I think it just talks to the team's dedication
Speaker 7: to not just make it the Salt Lake City Mammoth
Speaker 7: and make it really a community asset for the entire state. So,
Speaker 7: you know, that's just one event they did, and you
Speaker 7: know that's something I've been impressed with for sure. Is
Speaker 7: all they do on the side of the hockey team actually.
Speaker 9: On the ice bell.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for the time. We're gonna blink in October.
Speaker 2: We'll be here so hockey right around the corner. Have
Speaker 2: a great week and be well, Okay, awesome, Thank you.
Speaker 5: Hi.
Speaker 2: Belle Fraser covers the Utah Mammoth for the Solid Tribune.
Speaker 3: Just a phenomenal hire. She's done a great, great job.
Speaker 2: I wonder how long she'll be here at Belle Fraser
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Speaker 2: Mammoth will begin play with a road heavy schedule starting
Speaker 2: on Thursday, October and the ninth at Colorado, eleven of
Speaker 2: the first fifteen games away from out to Center. Their
Speaker 2: home opener will be Wednesday, October fifteenth against Calgary, and
Speaker 2: tickets are on sale now. Learn about this new trend
Speaker 2: of grown people adults carrying around stuffed animals for like security.
Speaker 1: Have you have you have you seen any of this
Speaker 1: for what?
Speaker 9: For?
Speaker 1: Like? For like security?
Speaker 3: So you know like some people, yeah, some people have
Speaker 3: like emotional support dogs.
Speaker 1: There's this new trend.
Speaker 2: The Atlantic just did a piece on it where mostly
Speaker 2: in major cities where maybe some people might be losing
Speaker 2: it a little bit. Uh, grown adults are carrying around
Speaker 2: stuffed animals to calm their central nervous system.
Speaker 1: Do you have Do you have any thoughts on this?
Speaker 4: I think you gotta do what you gotta do, Okay.
Speaker 4: I don't like the trend.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 4: I Uh, I had a blankie for a while, nothing
Speaker 4: wrong with that. I had a blanky until I was
Speaker 4: at college.
Speaker 3: So did you call it blankie until you got to college. Yeah, yep,
Speaker 3: that's a little embarrassing. Did you ever have a stuffed
Speaker 3: animal when you were young that you love? Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: It was a Clifford the big red dog.
Speaker 4: Cliff I love the Clifford the Red dog nephew has
Speaker 4: it nice and if he's ever like rough with it,
Speaker 4: I'm like, hey.
Speaker 3: Be nice to Clifford.
Speaker 1: You keep that nice.
Speaker 2: I had a giant bear there you go, with a
Speaker 2: yellow jersey number thirty three, and his name was Kareem
Speaker 2: abdul Ja Bear.
Speaker 3: It's a real story. There you go. I love that bear.
Speaker 3: Emotional support bear.
Speaker 2: Josh Furlong brings emotional support to the program on a Monday. Josh,
Speaker 2: did you have a stuffed animal that you love? Well,
Speaker 2: maybe you're part of this trend. Are you currently carrying
Speaker 2: around a stuffed animal?
Speaker 5: Heck no, And.
Speaker 9: I don't get it, but I did have a stuffed
Speaker 9: animal till I was what like five or whatever. There's
Speaker 9: a video of my dad back and so like I
Speaker 9: beat the crap out of that stuffed animal. And my
Speaker 9: mom she was a seamstress, and so she would like
Speaker 9: take it apart and try to fix it. Well, like
Speaker 9: they she took it apart and I couldn't find it,
Speaker 9: so I asked him where it is, and he's on
Speaker 9: video saying he's dead, and I'm just like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 9: so traumatizing. Yeah, no, I'm not a stuffed animal guy.
Speaker 2: Well, Josh, you can trauma dump on this show. At
Speaker 2: any point, do you still want to be friends with
Speaker 2: Porter even though you just found out he called his
Speaker 2: blanket blanky up until he was eighteen years old?
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's that's questionable. I mean, like, I mean, did
Speaker 9: he take it to his dorms and like sleep with it? Okay, okay,
Speaker 9: I mean tweet their own you find comfort in once
Speaker 9: you find it comfort in.
Speaker 2: I guess at least you didn't call it like woobye
Speaker 2: or something, because blank he's better than some corny nickname. Anyway,
Speaker 2: let's move on, Josh, and let's talk you tough football
Speaker 2: your ma.
Speaker 3: I saw that you recorded a pod.
Speaker 2: I'll tune in, uh, certainly later on this week, as
Speaker 2: I do for all Josh's POD's main storylines. Week one
Speaker 2: Utah football camp go.
Speaker 9: I'd say, just kind of the optimism around this offense.
Speaker 9: I mean, it's easy, you know, coming in, and anything
Speaker 9: better would be optimistic compared to what you had last year.
Speaker 9: So I don't know that it's crazy, but at the
Speaker 9: same time, I think there's a genuine belief that this
Speaker 9: offense is pretty special. Kyle Whittingham talked about how this
Speaker 9: team came in from the spring. They made progress. You
Speaker 9: could tell they worked in the offseason and they didn't
Speaker 9: really take a step back. You know, sometimes when you
Speaker 9: get into this first day oft fall camp, you know,
Speaker 9: Kyle will talk about, Yeah, we got to get these
Speaker 9: guys ready, you know, I got to get them remembering
Speaker 9: that the football season's up. This was a completely different
Speaker 9: tone from Kyle, and it just seems like there's this
Speaker 9: real purpose for the offense, right Like a lot of
Speaker 9: these guys weren't even on the roster last year, but
Speaker 9: I think they've bought in two kind of the mindset
Speaker 9: that whatever happened last year was not good enough. And
Speaker 9: so you're seeing a team collectively come together wanting to improve,
Speaker 9: wanting to be better, and at least by all accounts,
Speaker 9: from the first week of the season, things have been
Speaker 9: trending in an upward momentum, and I think things are
Speaker 9: in a positive way right now.
Speaker 1: For the youth wide receivers.
Speaker 2: Josh wide receivers, wide receivers, wide receivers. Where we're at,
Speaker 2: Where are we at? Give us some names. Who do
Speaker 2: you thinks could be catching passes from Devin this year?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it's still TVD right, like I mean,
Speaker 9: until they've proven on the field, it's tough to know.
Speaker 9: But I think based on kind of what we've heard,
Speaker 9: Tobias Merriweather and Larry Simmons, two guys that came in
Speaker 9: after the in the spring portal, so after spring camp,
Speaker 9: have really kind of embraced their roles at Utah as
Speaker 9: being kind of the top guys. They both have a
Speaker 9: great frame to be able to be great assets for
Speaker 9: Devin Dampier. I mean, if you saw the tweet that
Speaker 9: Utah made where Isaac Wilson throw it to Larry Simmons,
Speaker 9: kind of shows the level of effort that that these
Speaker 9: players are making. But it sounds like they're doing well
Speaker 9: beyond that. I mean, you have your standard guys in
Speaker 9: Dandrin Zipper, a guy that's returning, one of the only
Speaker 9: returners who seems to be having a good camp. You've
Speaker 9: got other guys like Ryan Davis Whitmore. You know, some
Speaker 9: of these other guys that have done well. And then
Speaker 9: beyond that you have Hunter Andrews, You've got you know,
Speaker 9: Wireman playing Canaday, d and Dale and Bentley got Nate Johnson,
Speaker 9: JJ Buchanan who's a freshman that just got here, has
Speaker 9: been doing some good things. So I mean, I think
Speaker 9: they're at least serviceable, right, Like, we don't know if
Speaker 9: it's going to be to the level that the UTAH
Speaker 9: needs to really be effective, but I think they've got
Speaker 9: enough players that they feel good about that that there's
Speaker 9: gonna be some some ways to spread the ball around
Speaker 9: and not just rely solely on the run game.
Speaker 2: There have been youth fans in the past, certainly, and
Speaker 2: fans are fans, We love them, That's why we have jobs,
Speaker 2: but have been pining potentially for maybe a little bit
Speaker 2: of a different offensive approach, something a little bit more entertaining.
Speaker 2: And that's not entirely true because there have been certain
Speaker 2: seasons where the offense has been elite.
Speaker 3: We understand that this is a different look. It's a
Speaker 3: different approach.
Speaker 2: Like entirely tell you fans from a macro level what
Speaker 2: they're in for for Coach Becks offense.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, it's in the basic terms it's an
Speaker 9: uptempo offense, no huddles, It's a team that's going to
Speaker 9: be running, you know, rpo based spread type concepts. I
Speaker 9: would say there's simplistic in the sense that you know,
Speaker 9: it doesn't take a Bible to be able to understand
Speaker 9: what a wide receiver has to do. They don't have
Speaker 9: to look at the defense, they don't have to scheme
Speaker 9: against them and try to figure out what they're doing.
Speaker 9: It's you run this route. You've got probably you know,
Speaker 9: an alternative route if something blows up. But for the
Speaker 9: most part, it dialed back in the ways that allows
Speaker 9: this team to be able to just go out there
Speaker 9: and play football. In the past, with Andy Bludwig, you
Speaker 9: could have some complex offenses that were challenging, and if
Speaker 9: it worked, if you had a guy like Cam Rising
Speaker 9: understander that understood everything, you could have a beautiful run offense.
Speaker 9: The problem is very few players could pick that up,
Speaker 9: and so you're going to have a completely different offense.
Speaker 9: It's probably more familiar to these kids, kids that played
Speaker 9: rpo styles, spread style offenses in high school, maybe even younger,
Speaker 9: and so I think it's just more of a simplistic
Speaker 9: mindset of being able to attack the game. You know,
Speaker 9: Utah is going to still try to emphasize, you know,
Speaker 9: the run game. They're going to utilize that to be
Speaker 9: able to set everything up, and I just think there's
Speaker 9: going to be a lot of opportunities available for this team.
Speaker 9: It can include options. It's going to have some bubble screens,
Speaker 9: you know, you've got to have some downfield threats, and
Speaker 9: then you obviously have your run games. So I think
Speaker 9: it's just much more dynamic in just simplicity, but I
Speaker 9: think it's it's going to be one that if they
Speaker 9: can get everything hitting on the right notes, you could
Speaker 9: do some damage, especially with that offensive line and keeping
Speaker 9: from tempo, keeping the defensive guessing Devin dan Pere, really
Speaker 9: making guys on the defensive side and not understand what
Speaker 9: they're doing. So simple but still still effective in what
Speaker 9: they're able to do.
Speaker 2: For a fan base that certainly will probably be traumatized
Speaker 2: for a while about a quarterback potentially being injured when
Speaker 2: it comes to protecting Devin, I mean, obviously having maybe
Speaker 2: the best offensive line not just in the conference, but
Speaker 2: among the best offensive lines in the country will help
Speaker 2: how much of this quarterback run game will be design
Speaker 2: quarterback runs. How much of it is RPOs, how much
Speaker 2: of it is Devin's decisions, how much of it is
Speaker 2: coach Beck's calls.
Speaker 9: I think it's all of that, honestly. I mean, I
Speaker 9: think it's it's one of those things where everything's on
Speaker 9: the table. I don't think it's one of those where
Speaker 9: they're going to have a designed thing where you say, Okay,
Speaker 9: we're gonna run at X amount of times from Devon,
Speaker 9: We're going to have you know, way Shan run at
Speaker 9: X amount of times. It's it's gonna be dynamic and
Speaker 9: based on kind of what the defenses are giving you.
Speaker 9: Devin damp Pier will have designed runs. Those designed runs
Speaker 9: will also have options off of it. It'll have, you know,
Speaker 9: a bunch of different looks that are going to allow
Speaker 9: this team to be able to move. So I don't
Speaker 9: know that there's like one set thing, but I think
Speaker 9: you know, you're going to try to put the ball
Speaker 9: in your best player's hands, and Devin Dampier is clearly
Speaker 9: one of the best players on that roster, and so
Speaker 9: you're going to utilize him however you can, whether that's
Speaker 9: him passing and Jason Beck talked a lot about this
Speaker 9: last week about he's more than capable in the passing game.
Speaker 9: They just had, you know, different talent around him that
Speaker 9: that wasn't able to kind of make it work. So
Speaker 9: you know you're going to see he developed that. You know,
Speaker 9: I've heard from a numerous amount of guys that he's
Speaker 9: one of the best passers that they've seen running, you know,
Speaker 9: like he can go on the run and he can
Speaker 9: have accuracy on the run. So you know you're going
Speaker 9: to see a lot of different books from him. I
Speaker 9: don't know that it's going to be mapped out entirely
Speaker 9: in terms of what it's going to be, but I mean,
Speaker 9: this is a guy that only took four sacks last year,
Speaker 9: So you know, given the offensive line that he has
Speaker 9: this year versus last year, you have to at least
Speaker 9: like the chance that he's going to be protected. The
Speaker 9: freak things happened and you never really know.
Speaker 2: So wa Sean Parker with a solid season in Wazoo
Speaker 2: as a freshman close to eight hundred yards over five
Speaker 2: yards per carry, which obviously is a great number. Does
Speaker 2: it feel like that he has separated himself as RB
Speaker 2: one And what does the rest of that room look like?
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's he's I mean, something would have to change
Speaker 9: for him not to be that guy. I mean, he's
Speaker 9: saying all the right things, he's doing all the right things.
Speaker 9: You know, he's coming in with a bit of confidence
Speaker 9: on his side. He thinks he can get to fifteen
Speaker 9: hundred yards this year, at least across the thousand yard barrier,
Speaker 9: and I think that would be great for Utah. But
Speaker 9: I think he's, you know, unless somebody takes it from him,
Speaker 9: he's the guy, and I don't see that happening right now.
Speaker 9: But beyond that, you have Nakari Rodgers, who was with
Speaker 9: New Mexico last year, so he understands the system Waysham
Speaker 9: was a bit banged up in spring and had to
Speaker 9: have a minor surgery and so that gave Rogers an
Speaker 9: opportunity to really kind of hone in and take those
Speaker 9: first team reps and he did really well with it.
Speaker 9: So I think you're going to see him, if not
Speaker 9: on like you know, short yardage situations, third down situations,
Speaker 9: try to try to move that. You've got Bryce Duke
Speaker 9: where he came in spring and we didn't get a
Speaker 9: chance to see him, So I think, you know, there's
Speaker 9: there's a chance that he pushes I've heard some good
Speaker 9: things about him and maybe getting that number two spot.
Speaker 9: But then you have some other guys like Daniel Bray,
Speaker 9: he's a freshman in spring. Kyle Whittingham talked about it's
Speaker 9: not really a question of if he'll see the field,
Speaker 9: it's about where and how. He's more of your gadget
Speaker 9: guy right now and kind of utilizing him in an
Speaker 9: off speed type situation, so you're gonna him. And then
Speaker 9: you also have devinie Green, the UNLB transfer who's going
Speaker 9: to come in and he had some good showings in
Speaker 9: the spring as well, So you know, I think there's
Speaker 9: a good room. I think they've got the potential to
Speaker 9: be able to mix it up wherever they need to.
Speaker 9: But I think one that would push them the most
Speaker 9: right now is the Kari Rodgers and Bryce Duke. But
Speaker 9: it still remains to be seen kind of where they're at,
Speaker 9: and I'm really curious to see how they stack up
Speaker 9: this week, especially when pads get on and kind of
Speaker 9: how they attack the defense.
Speaker 2: As we have all learned, and it's not just a
Speaker 2: Utah dynamic pretty much everywhere, you got to have at
Speaker 2: least a couple of quarterbacks ready to go. If not,
Speaker 2: sometimes three, maybe sometimes four or five. If recent history
Speaker 2: shows anything about Utah football.
Speaker 1: Coach Beck was asked.
Speaker 2: Jason Beck was asked last week about the quarterback room
Speaker 2: and the dynamic of what's going on behind Devin. He
Speaker 2: alluded to this was Wednesday, said quote, we're not too
Speaker 2: far away now from starting the game plan for UCLA.
Speaker 2: We have two scrimmages along the way. By the end
Speaker 2: of that second scrimmage, we'd really like to have an
Speaker 2: idea of what we're doing. After asked about the backup
Speaker 2: quarterback situation, of course, it's Isaac Wilson, who he saw
Speaker 2: in spot duty, well not justin spot duty. We saw
Speaker 2: him more than anybody was expecting last year and it
Speaker 2: didn't look great. And then this Bird Ficklin kid that's
Speaker 2: getting a lot of love from the coaching staff. Can
Speaker 2: you give us an idea where we're at in this
Speaker 2: race for QB two.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Bird has definitely been making a push, right. I
Speaker 9: think he's pushing Isaac aton He is a true freshman,
Speaker 9: and so I think there's I don't want to call
Speaker 9: it hesitancy, but I think you learned a lot last
Speaker 9: year with Isaac being a true freshman that he has
Speaker 9: to be hands down the best guy for him to
Speaker 9: take that QB two spot. I think the potential and
Speaker 9: the way that Jason Beck is running his offense probably
Speaker 9: fits Bird a little bit more simply because he's similar
Speaker 9: to Devin dan Pierre. But I think Isaac has really
Speaker 9: taken some strides in the offseason. You know, he was
Speaker 9: saying the right things in spring, talking about how, you know,
Speaker 9: he needs to be better, how he needs to be
Speaker 9: better leader. Just he understood all of that in at least,
Speaker 9: you know, by all accounts, seems like this offense should
Speaker 9: fit him more. He ran the spread at Corner Canyon,
Speaker 9: and so I think he understands that. He understands the RPO.
Speaker 9: You know, he's good in this system, and I think
Speaker 9: it's more simplistic for him to be able to understand.
Speaker 9: So I think, you know, if you're going into this,
Speaker 9: I think it's Isaac's to lose. I think he's got
Speaker 9: a leg up. I think that one year of experience
Speaker 9: does a lot. But I he's going to have to
Speaker 9: build a lot of trust, right not just from the
Speaker 9: coaching staff, but from the fan base that if he
Speaker 9: is the true number two. Guy Utah has to really
Speaker 9: like what he's doing. I don't think Kyle's going to
Speaker 9: go into this season saying, you know, we're just going
Speaker 9: to give Isaac that because he's a year older than Bird.
Speaker 9: I think he has to see something different. I think
Speaker 9: he has to see that he's matured, that he's willing
Speaker 9: to take the right steps, that he understands that he
Speaker 9: made mistakes last year. They obviously didn't put him in
Speaker 9: a great situation, but you know, learn from that and grow.
Speaker 9: And I think by all accounts it sounds like that's happened.
Speaker 9: But you know, only they can show. I mean, I
Speaker 9: go back to that tweet that I was talking about
Speaker 9: where he threw the touchdown pass to Larry Simmons. I
Speaker 9: still has an arm, and he still is able to
Speaker 9: showcase that he can hit tight window. I think he
Speaker 9: was just put in a tough position last year to
Speaker 9: be able to force play, not understanding the offense the
Speaker 9: way that he needed to not check down get the
Speaker 9: ball out quickly, and so if he can make those strides,
Speaker 9: I think he's a good reliable Number two.
Speaker 2: I was away last week and Porter and I were
Speaker 2: discussing this earlier in the show. In fact, I'll ask
Speaker 2: you when you take vacation, Like for me, I delete
Speaker 2: social media from my phone. I delete alerts from any
Speaker 2: sports outlet. I am disconnected. When Josh Burlong is on vacation,
Speaker 2: how connected is he to the worlds of sports.
Speaker 9: As I don't know? I mean, like I have to be,
Speaker 9: I think because I have to edit other people's stories.
Speaker 9: So I try as best as possible to kind of
Speaker 9: push it all aside. But there's always something that I'm
Speaker 9: looking for. I think it's really just kind of finding
Speaker 9: the right balance for you. For me, you know, I
Speaker 9: like to at least be in reach just in case
Speaker 9: something happens on the beat or something else happens with
Speaker 9: my workers, and so it's just kind of it's maintaining
Speaker 9: quiet without fully disconnecting. I quite honestly, I'd love to
Speaker 9: just fully to disconnect sometimes I think it's great. I
Speaker 9: just haven't been able to do that the last few years.
Speaker 9: So it's it's, you know, it's a give or take.
Speaker 9: But I've found a nice little bounce, right. I don't
Speaker 9: feel overly stressed by it by all means.
Speaker 2: I guess it's different because you actually have people that
Speaker 2: report to you and rely on you. I am an
Speaker 2: island porter and I we kind of.
Speaker 1: Do our thing.
Speaker 2: We have nobody that needs to worry about us. We
Speaker 2: don't need to worry about them, So it's different. But
Speaker 2: I bring it up because I had heard of.
Speaker 1: This Salissimo kid.
Speaker 2: But when I was kind of re entering in the
Speaker 2: atmosphere and re you know, installed the social media apps
Speaker 2: on the phone that you use for information, the story
Speaker 2: was everywhere, was all over the place. So walk us
Speaker 2: through this. How close was you taught to landing him?
Speaker 2: Did they think they had him? And why ultimately did
Speaker 2: he land at Tennessee.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so early on he was supposed to commit. I
Speaker 9: believe it was July fifth, and around that time, one
Speaker 9: of the on three guys, Steve what Olpsong, gave a
Speaker 9: prediction that said that he was going to commit to
Speaker 9: Utah and at that time it very much so was
Speaker 9: leaning and trending towards that. You know, he liked everything
Speaker 9: about his official visit. He liked everything about staying home,
Speaker 9: but there was always another team, generally being Tennessee and
Speaker 9: Tennessee mostly because of the SEC. He really loves the SEC.
Speaker 9: You know, wanted to play at Alabama wants to be
Speaker 9: able to have kind of that star power you know
Speaker 9: behind him. But for the longest time, it really felt
Speaker 9: like Utah. Now as it dragged on, it seems like,
Speaker 9: you know, Tennessee was creeping in. But at the same time,
Speaker 9: these were two teams that were pretty evenly matched in
Speaker 9: terms of the resources and kind of what they wanted
Speaker 9: for him, And it honestly just came down to the
Speaker 9: night before of him him really settling on Tennessee. I
Speaker 9: you know, I think it's it's definitely a blow for
Speaker 9: Utah in the sense that you lose the top recruit
Speaker 9: from your state. Obviously a legacy kid with Ben Moa
Speaker 9: going to Utah. But I don't like to me like,
Speaker 9: I don't get into this level where it's just like
Speaker 9: the end of the world, right, Like, I think it's
Speaker 9: one kid, and in the age of the transfer portal,
Speaker 9: there's just so many more proven commodities that you can
Speaker 9: get immediately instead of trying to rely on or recruit. Now,
Speaker 9: don't get me wrong, this is a kid that was
Speaker 9: a consensus five star by twenty four seven Sports. You know,
Speaker 9: there's a lot of upside. His impact on the field
Speaker 9: on day one likely would have been higher than most,
Speaker 9: but I think, you know, it's not a big indictment
Speaker 9: on Utah. They do need to improve, but I think
Speaker 9: in the age of the transfer portal, if you can
Speaker 9: hit on the right amount of players, you're going to
Speaker 9: be fine. And it seems like Utah has done well.
Speaker 9: We're really going to see that truly this year with
Speaker 9: their full offense rebuild from the portal. So it's one player, yes,
Speaker 9: it's a five star. It's a kid that you absolutely
Speaker 9: need to get it with him in your backyard. But
Speaker 9: you know, seventeen eighteen year old kids are going to
Speaker 9: do what they want and if it means playing in
Speaker 9: the SEC is you know what is has a drawn him.
Speaker 9: You know, there's not much you can do at Utah
Speaker 9: outside of just doubling the money or whatever it is
Speaker 9: to kind of pull a kid like that.
Speaker 2: And to your point about the transfer portal, it really
Speaker 2: changes it. You know, it's interesting, Josh on a number
Speaker 2: of levels, because like it changes the way we cover
Speaker 2: National Signing Day, National level Letter of Intent Day. They
Speaker 2: used to be like an all day, you know, uh,
Speaker 2: covered on the radio, covered on the newspaper, and it's
Speaker 2: all anybody ever wanted to talk about and now. While
Speaker 2: recruiting remains a big piece of what you have to
Speaker 2: do to acquire talent for your program, the transfer portal
Speaker 2: has also changed the I'll call it the prescient nature
Speaker 2: of analyzing, you know, these young people who are coming
Speaker 2: to college out of high school and whether or not
Speaker 2: they're ready to play college football. It does feel like
Speaker 2: Brigham Young has made quite the inroads for their twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six class. From a macro level where we at
Speaker 2: with Utah for their twenty twenty six recruiting class, yeah, they're.
Speaker 9: They're far far behind, Like BYU is in a top
Speaker 9: twenty five class in Utah's top fifty, Right have they
Speaker 9: gotten MOA. There's a chance that they would have been
Speaker 9: top thirty. But it's it's one where you know, Utah
Speaker 9: needs some work to do. At the same time, you're
Speaker 9: coming off of two years that we're disappointing. You know,
Speaker 9: it's it's not easy to kind of showcase that two
Speaker 9: kids that have short lifestyle some are short lifespans in
Speaker 9: terms of college sports, and so you've got to be
Speaker 9: able to brand yourself as a good team right now
Speaker 9: and right now BYU is getting a lot of that momentum,
Speaker 9: Utah still did better than I think many expected based
Speaker 9: on how the last couple of seasons went. But it's
Speaker 9: one of those things where you have to you have
Speaker 9: to maintain good, right like you have to be good,
Speaker 9: You've got to show it up. You've got to be
Speaker 9: able to keep that marketability around to be able to
Speaker 9: make it work. So right now, BYU, not just from
Speaker 9: an NIL standpoint, but just all around vibes around the
Speaker 9: team has has taken that, you know, but it's cyclical, right,
Speaker 9: You're going to get a lot of that that changes.
Speaker 9: Utah was benefiting a ton because they were in the
Speaker 9: PAC twelve and BUYU is independent. They had a much
Speaker 9: better opportunity that way, and so it changes. You know,
Speaker 9: there's going to be things depending on this year where
Speaker 9: maybe kids flip or they they change the trajectory of it,
Speaker 9: and so you know, unless they're you know, one of
Speaker 9: these teams that have to recruit at a top level
Speaker 9: to compete for a national championship, I think anywhere above
Speaker 9: fifty is going to be fine for Utah as long
Speaker 9: as they are evaluating properly and getting at least at
Speaker 9: least they're hitting on a majority of these kids. If not, yeah,
Speaker 9: then it's a disappointment and you're really just trying to
Speaker 9: catch up on something that is already you know, well
Speaker 9: out of their range right now.
Speaker 3: From a local standpoint, how is Utah hanging in?
Speaker 2: It felt like for about I don't know, maybe a
Speaker 2: decade to your earlier point about by Uspoorian into independence
Speaker 2: and Utah's inclusion into the PAC twelve, and of course,
Speaker 2: of course Coach went and what he's built, it felt
Speaker 2: like more often than not for a long time, Utah
Speaker 2: was getting most any local kid they wanted, including for
Speaker 2: a number of years the Chase Hanson's and the Britain
Speaker 2: Covees and the kids it felt like they were BYU
Speaker 2: tried and true oftentimes ended up in Salt Lake City.
Speaker 2: What's the dynamic like currently, Josh.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think the biggest change there is more around
Speaker 9: the LDS kids, the kids that you know, you would
Speaker 9: expect to be BYU that Utah picked up, you know,
Speaker 9: the Britain Coveyes, the Chase Hansson's. Like you said, these
Speaker 9: are the kids that BYU kind of whiffed on a
Speaker 9: little bit, and whether it was they weren't evaluating them
Speaker 9: the right way, or they just weren't viewed as the
Speaker 9: better team. You know, Utah was able to pick that up.
Speaker 9: And so I think you've seen a lot of that
Speaker 9: this year where there's some kids that have just been
Speaker 9: diehard BYU fens their entire life and they wanted to
Speaker 9: go to BYU and you were always not going to
Speaker 9: get those kids. But I think there's there's some kids
Speaker 9: recently that that maybe they were you know, waffling a
Speaker 9: little bit and trying to figure out how it goes
Speaker 9: and if the religious side of things is top of mind,
Speaker 9: you know, that kind of pushes them over because now
Speaker 9: they've got a school that as an upward trajectory. The
Speaker 9: NIL seems to be in a good situation. The results
Speaker 9: on the field last year were good, and obviously they're
Speaker 9: hoping to back that up this year. But it seems
Speaker 9: like there's a much better vibe in terms of kind
Speaker 9: of what's happened recently for BYU. But Utah. You know, look,
Speaker 9: Utah still gets the national respect. They're still going to
Speaker 9: be considered a top twenty five type team where even
Speaker 9: though they've had these poor seasons, the stuff that they've
Speaker 9: done the last few years of building them up, so
Speaker 9: I think it just it depends on where you pull from, right,
Speaker 9: and I think each school has their own opportunities to
Speaker 9: pull from something different. But it's just a matter of
Speaker 9: kind of the results on the field, kind of being
Speaker 9: the swaying the vote.
Speaker 2: At the end, it feels like, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: last year because it was Utah's first year in the
Speaker 2: Big Twelve, and it was also the first year the
Speaker 2: expanded CFP, it felt like last year there was more conversation,
Speaker 2: there was more written work, there were more topically prevalent
Speaker 2: situations regarding whether or not this is coach wits last
Speaker 2: dance Sean O'Connell on our radio station down at Big
Speaker 2: Twelve Media Days. I'll let Sean speak for himself, but
Speaker 2: according to what he's been told, it feels like to
Speaker 2: him this might be it so curious as to whether
Speaker 2: or not you have any information, And then attendant to
Speaker 2: the question what do you think? Like, part of me
Speaker 2: feels like if Utah was asu last year, Kyle's done,
Speaker 2: did the thing won, the Big Twelve went to the Cfbok.
Speaker 1: Morgan, I'm handing it off to you.
Speaker 2: I think he would prefer to go out on a
Speaker 2: different level, and he has certainly earned the right to
Speaker 2: do that. But are you getting any info as to
Speaker 2: whether or not this will be Kyle's last dance? And
Speaker 2: then what do you think has to happen this year
Speaker 2: in order for that decision to be made.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I think everything's trending that way. You know,
Speaker 9: I think the real belief was he wanted to go
Speaker 9: out with Cam Rising. You know, he and Andy Ludwig,
Speaker 9: We're going to you know, right out into the sunset.
Speaker 9: At the same time Cam Rising left. As they go
Speaker 9: and win the Big Twelve, you get your third conference
Speaker 9: championship and you know, three different conferences, and you know,
Speaker 9: you get this opportunity to be able to do something
Speaker 9: that very few coaches have ever done. And so I think,
Speaker 9: you know, everything was kind of lending itself to that.
Speaker 9: And even as it got late in the season and
Speaker 9: Utah clearly wasn't the team that they wanted to be,
Speaker 9: there was still this kind of consensus that Kyle was done.
Speaker 9: But clearly like it didn't work that way. You know,
Speaker 9: he was much more candid at Big Twelve media days
Speaker 9: talking about how he just wasn't satisfied with the way
Speaker 9: he went down. But I think just kind of the
Speaker 9: vibes around the program and you know, the things the
Speaker 9: people that I've talked to, it does feel like this
Speaker 9: year is the final year, assuming that Utah has a
Speaker 9: successful year, Now what that means, you know that that's questionable, right,
Speaker 9: Like I obviously a Big twelve championship and getting into
Speaker 9: the playoffs I think is something that he ultimately wants.
Speaker 9: I think he would love to end his career having
Speaker 9: an opportunity to at least play in the playoffs. But
Speaker 9: at the same time, I think if the Utah can
Speaker 9: have a season in which that they're contending for a
Speaker 9: Big twelve title down to the wire, I think that
Speaker 9: may be good enough. You know, I don't know what
Speaker 9: that looks like. You know, in the Big Twelve. It
Speaker 9: could be eight wins, it could be ten wins. But
Speaker 9: I think at least if they're in contention, that might
Speaker 9: put him over the edge to at least say, hey, look,
Speaker 9: you know you're never going to get everything perfect, but
Speaker 9: at least we were able to go out on a
Speaker 9: high note instead of kind of what they did last year.
Speaker 9: So I don't know that there's an exact number sure
Speaker 9: Big Twelve Championship, playoff birth would be ideal for him
Speaker 9: to kind of write out into the sunset. But I
Speaker 9: think if they have a solid season, you know, I
Speaker 9: think that could put him over the edge. But honestly,
Speaker 9: it's really going to just come down to how he's
Speaker 9: feeling at that time, and I don't know that anybody knows,
Speaker 9: including himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you referenced the naturally the national respect that Utah
Speaker 2: continues to have. And it's interesting this time of year,
Speaker 2: we're all looking at previews, we're all listening to podcasts,
Speaker 2: and you can tell that when it comes to Utah,
Speaker 2: even if it's a media member or a prognosticator that
Speaker 2: isn't overly familiar with the program right now, they all
Speaker 2: say things like, well, they're they're head coach is Kyle Wittingham,
Speaker 2: so we know what they're going to be, you know,
Speaker 2: coach with we'll have them ready to play when this
Speaker 2: transition happens. Do you think that natural inclination that most
Speaker 2: people have to give this program the benefit of the
Speaker 2: doubt goes away for a moment before we learn what
Speaker 2: Morgan is as the head coach.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I think it'll go a little bit
Speaker 9: right like, and I think it depends on how Utah
Speaker 9: finishes when Kyle does retired. I mean, if Utah is
Speaker 9: still considered a top to your team and they're bringing
Speaker 9: back you know, let's say he retired this year and
Speaker 9: you're bringing back Devin damp Here next year, I think
Speaker 9: that gives you kind of some extra hope that that
Speaker 9: will help Morgan. But I think you're going to look
Speaker 9: at it in a way where if Morgan can keep
Speaker 9: the majority of his staff that he has right now,
Speaker 9: I think you'll still get some love. But you know,
Speaker 9: you're going to see it similar to like Alabama with
Speaker 9: Nick Saban, Like you don't want to necessarily be the
Speaker 9: guy that follows the legend, and so there's going to
Speaker 9: be more scrutiny on that. There's going to be you know,
Speaker 9: maybe some more doubt where they'll still give you that
Speaker 9: expect and say, hey, we know that Utah is good.
Speaker 9: It helps that Morgan Scaley's been in the system that
Speaker 9: he you know, he's you know, Kyle's proteget so to speak,
Speaker 9: he's been helping run the show that there shouldn't be
Speaker 9: much of a falloff. But I think until Morgan can
Speaker 9: truly prove it, and it may not even take that long,
Speaker 9: I still think there's going to be questions, and I
Speaker 9: think that's fair, right, Like I think there should be questions.
Speaker 9: Anybody that knows Morgan understands he understands football. But there's
Speaker 9: a lot of brilliant minds out there that understand football
Speaker 9: and don't have success as a coach. So, you know,
Speaker 9: I think until he can prove it on the field,
Speaker 9: you know, it's still going to be a question. But
Speaker 9: I think he's done enough and the you know, Utah
Speaker 9: it self has done enough that he'll get at least
Speaker 9: a little bit of the benefits of the doubt.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on Utah's strength of schedule and
Speaker 2: what are the games that's hand out most to you.
Speaker 2: According to CBS Sports, they have the Big Twelve strength
Speaker 2: of schedule like this, Baylor one, TCU two, and then
Speaker 2: they have Utah three, third hardest schedule in the Big twelve.
Speaker 2: B YU is all the way down at sixteen. This
Speaker 2: is CBS Sports. They believe b YU has the easiest schedule.
Speaker 2: They think Utah as the third hard ist schedule. Does
Speaker 2: that kind of drive with your understanding? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean you're getting some theft teams, right, like
Speaker 9: you obviously have to go play Baylor on the road
Speaker 9: late in the season. You know, Baylor could be you know,
Speaker 9: hitting on all cylinders at that point, or they could
Speaker 9: be a shell of what we think they are going
Speaker 9: to be. But by and large, you do get most
Speaker 9: of those teams the top teams, so like Arizona State,
Speaker 9: Texas Tech, you get them at home, and so there
Speaker 9: are some advantages to a difficult schedule. They also have
Speaker 9: a six week period where they don't even leave the state,
Speaker 9: So I don't know if that's good or bad, but
Speaker 9: at least it gives you an opportunity to kind of
Speaker 9: stay familiar with where you're at. If things are going wrong,
Speaker 9: you're not worrying about traveling. So I think despite Utah
Speaker 9: having a difficult path and teams that absolutely could present
Speaker 9: a challenge, I think it lays up well enough that,
Speaker 9: like you know, it's not going to be Murderer's Row
Speaker 9: by any means. I think there's years in the fact
Speaker 9: twelve that they face worse, you know, with the UFC, Oregon,
Speaker 9: Washington in that kind of situation. But I think by
Speaker 9: and large, the wholesome depth of this, I think it
Speaker 9: can be a pretty pretty challenging thing for USA. But
Speaker 9: I think they get a majority of their breaks at home,
Speaker 9: so I think it kind of weighs out a bit.
Speaker 9: You know, I don't think it's good or bad. I
Speaker 9: think it's actually a pretty solid schedule. Maybe that's a
Speaker 9: vanilla answer, but I don't think it's like the worst
Speaker 9: schedule that they could have had.
Speaker 2: All right, Josh, before I say you lose, you know,
Speaker 2: the Coaches poll, the USA Today Coaches Poll, oftentimes you
Speaker 2: might as well use it as toilet paper because these
Speaker 2: coaches don't necessarily I'm not saying all of them, but
Speaker 2: you know, the reputation around this poll. Do coaches really
Speaker 2: dig in to rank their top twenty five? Is that
Speaker 2: the assistant sid? Is it an intern? Who knows? But
Speaker 2: it is early August. We're inching our way towards games,
Speaker 2: so stuff like this is topical.
Speaker 3: The AP pool, which you are a.
Speaker 2: Voter for, will come out next week BYU at twenty
Speaker 2: three Utah receiving votes, and if you just go down
Speaker 2: the list after the top twenty five is done, it
Speaker 2: puts Utah as the thirtieth team in this poll. Highest
Speaker 2: ranked Big twelve team is Arizona State, they're at eleven,
Speaker 2: and then you've got k State at twenty. I always
Speaker 2: stayed at twenty one, BYU at twenty three, Texas Tech
Speaker 2: twenty four, and like I said, Utah thirty.
Speaker 1: What do you make of that? Generally speaking?
Speaker 2: Do you think that's similar to what we'll see when
Speaker 2: the AP is released next week?
Speaker 9: I mean, I think Arizona State will probably be similar.
Speaker 9: They'll probably be somewhere between eleven to fifteen if I
Speaker 9: had to guess. But outside of that, you know, it
Speaker 9: remains a crapshoot. I don't like I think the coach's
Speaker 9: poll is weighing heavily on the result of last year,
Speaker 9: well somewhat using kind of the progression of this year.
Speaker 9: You're putting Texas Tech in there simply because they've gone
Speaker 9: to the transfer portal and gotten a ton of players,
Speaker 9: and I, you know, I think that they deserve there.
Speaker 9: BYU probably get some respection last year, but I think
Speaker 9: they're probably outside until they can prove some thing. To me,
Speaker 9: I would say, Baylor, who is you know? If you
Speaker 9: counted at thirty one, I think they should be in there.
Speaker 9: I think they finished the season strong. They return an
Speaker 9: incredible amount of talent back on their roster, so for me, like,
Speaker 9: I think they sneak into the top twenty five next week.
Speaker 9: But I mean this kind of goes to the nature
Speaker 9: of the Big Twelve, right, Like there's just so many
Speaker 9: teams that aren't contention for a Big Twelve title this year,
Speaker 9: and so you could put any one of those teams
Speaker 9: eleven through fifty, and I think you're going to be,
Speaker 9: you know, pretty close to what it's going to be,
Speaker 9: just until it kind of sorts itself out. So I
Speaker 9: don't take too much frustration with it. You know. It's
Speaker 9: not the way that I would rank it personally, It's
Speaker 9: not the way that I did rank it. But I
Speaker 9: think teams like BYU and Utah specifically have a little
Speaker 9: bit more to prove before they get in the top
Speaker 9: twenty five. But I wouldn't be at all shocked if
Speaker 9: either one of them are in the apeopole next next
Speaker 9: week or in any of these orders or this way.
Speaker 9: But I do think Baylor should probably be in there.
Speaker 2: Josh, my man, thanks for the time on Monday. Keep
Speaker 2: up the great work, have a good week. We'll chat soon.
Speaker 9: Okay, sounds great. Appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: world of professional basketball.
Speaker 1: We have some breaking news. Hold on Jazz fans.
Speaker 2: The Salt Lake City Stars, the official ge League affiliate
Speaker 2: of the Utah Jazz, have acquired a.
Speaker 1: Second round pick.
Speaker 2: From the Long Island Nets in exchange reformer for forward
Speaker 2: Jalen Giney who goes to Mexico City and a three
Speaker 2: team deal. Gany twenty three games for the Stars last year,
Speaker 2: three points, four boards, twelve minutes.
Speaker 3: Stars get a second round pick.
Speaker 1: That's what you call a blockbuster. Very season deals.
Speaker 2: Speaking of trades, you're allowed to just not be a
Speaker 2: Cowboys fan. I think we're there if they screw the
Speaker 2: Mica Parsons thing up. I think you're officially allowed to
Speaker 2: pick a new pro football team.
Speaker 4: You know, you would think so, you would think so,
Speaker 4: But it's kind of just par for the course. Like
Speaker 4: our guy Martin's been bugging me about the Putt and
Speaker 4: Micah Parsons thing all off season. I said, dude, it's
Speaker 4: gonna end poorly and I'm gonna be mad about it.
Speaker 4: And that's being a Cowboys fan. And well, here we are.
Speaker 4: It's looking like it's gonna end poorly, and the Cowboys
Speaker 4: are gonna run back. You know, I think probably a
Speaker 4: slightly above average team, enough to sell all the merch
Speaker 4: and all the tickets that Jerry Jones desires, and we'll
Speaker 4: do it again next year.
Speaker 2: But like, you can't screw it up with that guy,
Speaker 2: you know, like he's the one guy you can't screw
Speaker 2: it up with.
Speaker 4: I think the Cowboys have shown that when it comes
Speaker 4: to like long term deals and extensions and taking care
Speaker 4: of players that you in your locker room that you
Speaker 4: want to, you know, keep long term, they can screw
Speaker 4: it up with anybody, their quarterback, their running backs, their
Speaker 4: star pass rushers, left tackles, they'll they'll go out on
Speaker 4: a limb and pretty much make anyone angry when it
Speaker 4: comes to contract stuff.
Speaker 3: Have you seen Lebron James swing a golf club?
Speaker 1: By the way I have?
Speaker 2: It always cracks me up because I think a lot
Speaker 2: of people just view golf as something that's pretty easy,
Speaker 2: like if you've never played it before. Lebron James might
Speaker 2: be not just the best NBA player of this generation,
Speaker 2: he might be the best athlete, full stop, period of
Speaker 2: this generation. And he looks like he's never swung a
Speaker 2: golf club in his life before. You would think an
Speaker 2: athlete like that would just have some sort of natural inclination.
Speaker 2: There's a video going around to Lebron playing golf with Broddy,
Speaker 2: his son, and every shot he hits is like a
Speaker 2: flop shot because he can't make full contact with the ball. Now,
Speaker 2: my man looks like he's having a good time. But
Speaker 2: I always you see it a lot like if you
Speaker 2: go up to some of these media tournaments, some of
Speaker 2: the ex college guys are they are the ex college
Speaker 2: basketball players that they're the ex college football players are
Speaker 2: there in incredibly gifted athletes. There seems to be no
Speaker 2: translation with raw athleticism and the ability to swing a
Speaker 2: golf club like you would think Lebron would have more
Speaker 2: of a natural inclination of doing it.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I have kind of a unique perspective here because I
Speaker 4: have played golf with my mom, my grandmother. I have
Speaker 4: played golf with like elite climbers, right, I have played
Speaker 4: golf with really good basketball players, and I have played
Speaker 4: around a golf with a literally a guy with a jacket. Okay,
Speaker 4: so Mark, right, Marcomera, I wasn't gonna name drop, but
Speaker 4: thank you for doing something.
Speaker 1: I want to play golf with Markomera.
Speaker 4: So I you know, I've seen all the levels of golf.
Speaker 4: I when people ask me about the sport that you know,
Speaker 4: maybe aren't playing it or not super into it, I
Speaker 4: tell them it is the easiest sport to play, the
Speaker 4: hardest spart the hardest sport to master or be good at,
Speaker 4: because you can literally just like pull up in a
Speaker 4: golf club, step one foot out of your cart and
Speaker 4: smack that thing, and hey you might get a good
Speaker 4: chot every once in a while. It's very easy just
Speaker 4: to go out and play. But if you want to
Speaker 4: be good, if you want to master it, it takes
Speaker 4: more reps and more practice and more like attention to
Speaker 4: detail then maybe any of the other.
Speaker 1: Like major major covered sports.
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan himself the hardest game he's ever played. Update
Speaker 2: just for you. I have set the over under for
Speaker 2: club breaks this year at one point five. I'm allowing
Speaker 2: one club break this year, same as last year. No no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no no no no no no no. We well,
Speaker 2: if I recall correctly, we may have set the over
Speaker 2: under a one point five and everybody smashed the over
Speaker 2: and everybody won money. Okay, at some point there's an
Speaker 2: economic factor. These golf clubs are not cheap. And I
Speaker 2: am happy to report that we have turned our calendars
Speaker 2: to August and there have been zero club breaks.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you got some cushion. Zero club breaks.
Speaker 2: I cannot say in good conscience there have been zero
Speaker 2: club throws. Fine, there have been a few. There are
Speaker 2: a few last week last week. I have not No
Speaker 2: one gives a rip about this. I know I have
Speaker 2: not played well in like a month and it's really
Speaker 2: starting to grind on me. So the driver was chucked
Speaker 2: into a tree that demanded a little climbing. Okay, I
Speaker 2: also had to go this. This really pissed me off. Okay,
Speaker 2: this last week really pissed me off. So par three,
Speaker 2: I know, nobody cares. We'll get back to football. Hold
Speaker 2: on par three, about one hundred and seventy eight yards,
Speaker 2: I hit a pure eight iron that was headed right
Speaker 2: for the pin, lands on the green, rolls back into
Speaker 2: like the fescue, like the horrible rough that was right
Speaker 2: in front of the green, like love. It did not
Speaker 2: get any release, got a little backspin. Didn't really realize this,
Speaker 2: but an older gentleman was sitting on his deck witnessing
Speaker 2: this entire thing. I take one hack out of the fescue.
Speaker 2: The ball barely goes two feet, take another hack, doesn't
Speaker 2: move at all. Then swing as hard as I can
Speaker 2: and just skull it, you know, over into the other fairway.
Speaker 2: And this dude starts cackling and laughing so hard, and
Speaker 2: I turn around just chuck my sixty degree so angry.
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, golf's got of a tough game, and started.
Speaker 2: I wanted to walk over there and put my sixty
Speaker 2: degree up.
Speaker 3: You know what, Yeah, don't do that.
Speaker 1: It's I find of love.
Speaker 3: No, you can do not sit in your ivory tower
Speaker 3: and look down on golfers having a tough time and
Speaker 3: then mock them.
Speaker 1: What kind of human does that.
Speaker 4: It's better than the guy at the Park City Municipal
Speaker 4: Resort that I think has twice tried to fight me
Speaker 4: on the golf course.
Speaker 1: Why because he lives in a like listen, you try
Speaker 1: not to hit the ball into the house. You just try.
Speaker 1: That's pretty clear. I'm not trying to.
Speaker 4: But my buddy, you live on like a dog leg
Speaker 4: to the left and you look right on the corner there.
Speaker 4: He apparently he causes issues with Like, there's probably people
Speaker 4: listening who have at the pond at the Park City
Speaker 4: MUNI had an issue with the guy on his back deck.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you there's people who text in if you.
Speaker 3: Have you know what hole we're talking I love.
Speaker 1: I haven't been there a long time. Okay, but I
Speaker 1: hit this ball.
Speaker 4: He comes out, Hey, learn how to golf right, And
Speaker 4: then my buddy steps up. He hits the ball and
Speaker 4: it doesn't just like go over there. It hits this
Speaker 4: guy's deck. While the guy's standing on the deck, and
Speaker 4: he gets like aggressive about it.
Speaker 2: So it went back to back. He had two balls.
Speaker 2: But brother, yeah, yeah, you're not wrong. Hey, yeah, you're.
Speaker 4: On the tea box. There's some cowboys that are trying
Speaker 4: to play some golf.
Speaker 1: Be patient.
Speaker 4: If you're out there like heckling, I'm okay with it.
Speaker 4: Just don't try to fight the golfers. You live on
Speaker 4: a golf course, I'm sure you have insurance.
Speaker 2: You cannot be the person that buys the home on
Speaker 2: the golf course and that shock that your house is
Speaker 2: getting hit by golf balls, especially due respect at a
Speaker 2: Muni course. Okay, and look you're talking there. You're talking
Speaker 2: to Bonnie. Okay, you're talking. You're talking to a guy
Speaker 2: that's grinding at Bonnie and Mountain Dell every weekend. I'm
Speaker 2: not some country club snop and PC Muni is a
Speaker 2: wonderful course. But if you're going to buy a house,
Speaker 2: certainly on a dog leg where my guess is you
Speaker 2: know you're probably faders right, you're probably slicing it into
Speaker 2: his home, which is the most natural flight path for
Speaker 2: amateur golfers. You have no business being upset when your
Speaker 2: house get hit gets hit by golf balls. Anyway, I digress.
Speaker 2: The video of Lebron playing golf going around was pretty interesting.
Speaker 2: Poor are typically you know you're producing, you're getting things done.
Speaker 2: So you know, when I'm interviewing Josh for long for
Speaker 2: a while or starting the show off with some Utah football,
Speaker 2: oftentimes we can, you know, run out of a segment
Speaker 2: without getting your take. So I wanted to bring you
Speaker 2: in a couple of questions that I asked Josh. First
Speaker 2: of all, I was talking about this with shondering crosstalk.
Speaker 2: I think he set the over under for a wide
Speaker 2: receiver something like seven hundred yards. It does feel like
Speaker 2: and as we've discussed throughout the course of the show
Speaker 2: and certainly topically throughout the course of fall camp, we'll
Speaker 2: continue to keep an eye on Provo and Byu with
Speaker 2: that starting quarterback job. It doesn't feel like there are
Speaker 2: a ton of question marks for Utah entering the season
Speaker 2: this year. Certainly a couple here there, but the biggest
Speaker 2: one has to be wide receiver.
Speaker 3: And you know, there's a list of five or six
Speaker 3: names that we could kind.
Speaker 1: Of go over a little bit.
Speaker 2: Are you hearing anything about this group and how it's
Speaker 2: coming together? It just feels like it is the one
Speaker 2: glaring question concerning a positional group at Utah, and if
Speaker 2: that's the only positional group we're worried about, it's probably
Speaker 2: not a bad thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want to zoom out.
Speaker 4: I also want to learn quite a bit on the
Speaker 4: depth at de tackle right. A lot of faces we
Speaker 4: haven't seen yet, and we know that's a rotation that
Speaker 4: Kyle and co. Likes to go six seven deep sometimes
Speaker 4: cornerback as well. We know the departures, we know the
Speaker 4: faces that are there. We also know there's some transfer
Speaker 4: ins that are going to make that conversation interesting. But Jess,
Speaker 4: the big question going into fall camp is who's Devid
Speaker 4: Dempire going to throw to on a night to night
Speaker 4: basis tight end.
Speaker 1: We have a good idea there's some bodies there.
Speaker 4: I think the loss of Land and King leaves some
Speaker 4: opportunity for some young guys at the tight end position.
Speaker 4: But yeah, man, it's going to be by committee at
Speaker 4: wide receiver. And we asked Micah Simon, the wide receiver coach,
Speaker 4: last week, you know what that hierarchy is looking like
Speaker 4: and he kind of declined to answer, which I think
Speaker 4: tells you tells you what we're working with. There's gonna
Speaker 4: be have to be someone that you know, I don't
Speaker 4: think you need a number one guy. We look at
Speaker 4: the Darren Carrington, we look for a thousand yard receiver.
Speaker 4: I don't think Devin Dampier and this offense are going
Speaker 4: to need that. But man, you're really gonna want someone
Speaker 4: to show out in fall camp to give you a
Speaker 4: feeling that there's at least the ability in that room
Speaker 4: to make a lot of plays.
Speaker 1: Who it's going to be.
Speaker 4: You know, there's Creed with more, There's a bunch of transfers.
Speaker 4: There's players there that I think that this staff is
Speaker 4: confident in, but they're even on the hill kind of
Speaker 4: declining to tell us that anyone's.
Speaker 1: Distancing themselves in any sort of way. Zach Williams was
Speaker 1: thought to be the number one.
Speaker 2: He's off to Southern Cal after a really good performance
Speaker 2: in the spring. Five new transfers for Utah at the
Speaker 2: wide receiver position. The Tobias Merriweather kid looks the part.
Speaker 2: He's six', five one ninety. Five Ryan davis comes in
Speaker 2: From New, mexico obviously familiar with Coach beck And. Devin
Speaker 2: tobias played At cal last, year but sparingly he only.
Speaker 2: CAUGHT i think eleven, Passes Larry, Simmons southern Miss, Justin
Speaker 2: Steve Stevenson wyoming and As porter Reference Creed whittemore as.
Speaker 2: Well so even If zach didn't, TRANSFER i, mean he
Speaker 2: wasn't all that. Proven this is a positional group THAT
Speaker 2: i think leaves a lot to be desired at least.
Speaker 1: Learning more about.
Speaker 2: THEM i do Wonder, porter AND i always hesitate to, say,
Speaker 2: well youth fans want, this and all youth, fans you,
Speaker 2: KNOW i think there have been some grumbling in the
Speaker 2: past about maybe a little bit of lack of creativity
Speaker 2: on offense and maybe wanting something a little bit, Different
Speaker 2: and that's not entirely fair because coach lud had some
Speaker 2: of the best offenses in the history of the school
Speaker 2: and obviously won a couple Of pac twelve championships to,
Speaker 2: boot do you feel like the what is perceived to
Speaker 2: be a more entertaining approach with no huddles and you,
Speaker 2: know the ability to spread the field and a dynamic.
Speaker 2: Quarterback do you think the offense will be more entertaining
Speaker 2: this year to you?
Speaker 1: OFFENSE i. Hope.
Speaker 4: So, right there's a lot of context, there and part
Speaker 4: of it is that this offense. Was it wasn't even
Speaker 4: What Andy ludwig wanted it to.
Speaker 1: Be last. Year he was dealing with.
Speaker 4: Obviously a rash of injuries and a whole bunch of
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of stuff off the field that you
Speaker 4: just can't really plan. For and you, know when you're
Speaker 4: you're dealing with your third string, quarterback you're in your
Speaker 4: fourth string running, back your your playbook gets. Tight, man
Speaker 4: the operations that your, freshman your red, shirt your fourth
Speaker 4: string quarterback can run, through they're pretty limited in a
Speaker 4: lot of. Ways and we heard that from the. Staff so,
Speaker 4: yes this offense will be more. Entertaining DO i think
Speaker 4: it's going to look exactly like the offense of What
Speaker 4: New mexico did? NOW i think there's going to be
Speaker 4: an element, of, hey this is still A Kyle winningham coach.
Speaker 4: Team Morgan scalley still has the. Defense on the other.
Speaker 4: Side we're not going to, necessarily you, know throw The
Speaker 4: harlem globetrotters out, there but we are going to try
Speaker 4: some things that you maybe haven't. Seen that is part
Speaker 4: Of Jason beck's, identity that's kind of how he's built
Speaker 4: a name for, himself is you're going to see. Motions
Speaker 4: you're going to see guys moving in ways that sometimes
Speaker 4: looks silly on a football, field but they're meant to do.
Speaker 4: Things they're meant to get The mike linebacker looking in
Speaker 4: the opposite. Direction they're meant to get you a safety
Speaker 4: down the middle of the field just to turn his
Speaker 4: hips for a quick. Second there are little intricacies of
Speaker 4: his offense that somewhat similarly To Andy, Ludwig you're going
Speaker 4: to see that you have not ever seen. Before that's
Speaker 4: going to be fun For utah fans learning about, that
Speaker 4: identifying those things and figuring out how some of these
Speaker 4: players fit into an offense that, is, YES i think
Speaker 4: going to be quite a bit more entertaining than last.
Speaker 2: YEARS i also like the dynamic of the opening game
Speaker 2: at The Rose BOWL.
Speaker 1: Ucla it is a late.
Speaker 2: Kick that's nine O'clock mountain time On fox On august the,
Speaker 2: thirtieth so we are just twenty six days away from.
Speaker 2: Kickoff and when you look at The Bill connley, stuff
Speaker 2: THE smp That bill uses to predict, conferences he has
Speaker 2: let's SEE ucla number fifty one in the, country AND
Speaker 2: i think only, Yeah Michigan, State Northwestern Maryland purdue are
Speaker 2: the only teams That bill has BELOW, Ucla SO i
Speaker 2: kind of like the dynamic of an opening game against
Speaker 2: A p four team out of The Big, ten but
Speaker 2: a team that you really should be able to handle
Speaker 2: and get a. Win devin gets to experience what it's
Speaker 2: like to go on the road and play a. TEAM
Speaker 2: i don't know What UCLA's fan base is looking like these.
Speaker 2: Days they had a pretty down year last, year but
Speaker 2: they're not thought to be, great but They, ucla so
Speaker 2: they will have athletes and good football players for an opening.
Speaker 1: GAME i actually kind of like this.
Speaker 2: ONE i think a landing spot where you you should
Speaker 2: go on the road and get a. Win you will
Speaker 2: experience one of the greatest stadiums in all of college
Speaker 2: football and a football team that can at least provide some.
Speaker 2: PUSHBACK i always hate THE Fbsfcs week. One it's gonna
Speaker 2: be seventy to. THREE i don't think that does much for,
Speaker 2: you and maybe that's the deal with Cal, Poly but
Speaker 2: opening DAY ucla kind of like that.
Speaker 1: One i'm with.
Speaker 4: You, obviously it's a Former pac twelve opponent in a storied,
Speaker 4: venue so there's just a little extra FLAIR a little
Speaker 4: extra excitement.
Speaker 1: For a game in The Rose.
Speaker 4: Bowl regardless of the, situation regardless of the. Context but
Speaker 4: like you, said it also gives you taugh an opportunity
Speaker 4: to knock the rust off without like playing down to
Speaker 4: competition or having to adjust the way they. Play you're
Speaker 4: gonna have, to you, know bring your a game to
Speaker 4: BEAT ucla On week. One you're going to have to
Speaker 4: work through a few. Things you haven't been able to
Speaker 4: play live full reps so far this. Year so that's
Speaker 4: gonna be big for the youths to get off on
Speaker 4: the right. Foot and here's the beauty of. It say
Speaker 4: it's not pretty week. ONE a new offensive, coordinator a new,
Speaker 4: quarterback a group of coaching staffs that are going into
Speaker 4: their first game as a tandem. Unit if it's not,
Speaker 4: pretty you Play ucla year zero and, one it doesn't,
Speaker 4: matter because you're now in The big. Twelve you have
Speaker 4: an opportunity to kind of right those wrongs in a
Speaker 4: way that before the expanded. Playoff you, know you lose To,
Speaker 4: ucla you used to lose to a comparable team In week,
Speaker 4: one and that does a lot more damage than maybe
Speaker 4: it did, two, three four years.
Speaker 2: Ago ucla returned sixty seven. Starters that second last in
Speaker 2: The Big ten only To. Purdue they returned sixty seven,
Speaker 2: starters they have sixty seven transfers and, recruits and as
Speaker 2: far as the projections, go, Yeah conley has them as
Speaker 2: the fifty first ranked team in the. Country Only Michigan, State, Maryland,
Speaker 2: northwestern And.
Speaker 3: Purdue we're below them in The Big. Ten so That's
Speaker 3: utah's first.
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Speaker 2: gonna let you hear From Devin Dan. Pierre we're gonna
Speaker 2: let you hear From Jason. Beck If tom, allows we'll
Speaker 2: get to some other. Sound have you tinkered at all
Speaker 2: with the either for you algorithm or following algorithm On?
Speaker 4: TWITTER i kind of gave up on the scroll part of,
Speaker 4: that so not really not, really definitely no.
Speaker 1: TINKERING i still see it every once in.
Speaker 2: A WHILE i feel like every time you move over
Speaker 2: to the for you, portion it's like high school kids
Speaker 2: fighting in.
Speaker 1: Bathrooms, yeah, yeah you get a lot lot of. That
Speaker 1: that's kind of WHAT i was alluding. To it's really.
Speaker 3: Weird it's really strange. Anyway maybe that's just.
Speaker 1: What i've you, know How I've i've brought my algorithm to.
Speaker 2: Me i've never intentionally clicked on a video of two
Speaker 2: high schoolers fighting in a.
Speaker 3: STALL i didn't think. Sothing it's really weird. Anyway all,
Speaker 3: right we're gonna bring In pablo Mash.
Speaker 2: JOHNNIE rsl has a midweek tilt and they're back at
Speaker 2: action AND mls leagues play coming up On. Saturday but
Speaker 2: before we do, that it is that time of year
Speaker 2: where we have a little bit of access To utah
Speaker 2: football players and coaches As Camp kyle is. Underway so
Speaker 2: in case you missed any of, it we'll start with
Speaker 2: the NEW qb one for the.
Speaker 3: Utes Here's Devin. Dampier, devin how was it out?
Speaker 6: There it was?
Speaker 1: Fun it was. Fun glad to be with the. BOYS i,
Speaker 1: mean you, know this is what you dream.
Speaker 11: For so getting closer to the, season we've got high
Speaker 11: expectations during these, practices AND i think we made a
Speaker 11: good impression towards.
Speaker 6: That it don't seem like in.
Speaker 10: Spring there a good amount of energy of trying to
Speaker 10: get after.
Speaker 1: It how different is it involved there's a.
Speaker 12: Game, yeah you, know we practice in a way that's very,
Speaker 12: safe but at the end of the, day you, know
Speaker 12: we're still going one hundred. Percent so it's definitely the
Speaker 12: way we have the Structured we're still allowed to go
Speaker 12: one hundred percent whilst having to take practices Of, YEAH i,
Speaker 12: mean practices are.
Speaker 13: Real, Davin do you have to take a different approach
Speaker 13: with your leadership and being more assertive now that it's
Speaker 13: fall camp in the season is right around the.
Speaker 9: Corner, yeah you.
Speaker 11: KNOW i try to be the same person throughout the,
Speaker 11: year but you, know obviously we have new people that
Speaker 11: just got, here so just to be able to get.
Speaker 6: In that impression and get them hot.
Speaker 11: On they got a shorter amount of time to go
Speaker 11: with the, Program so just to make sure we're emphasizing
Speaker 11: that that's the leadership That i'm are right.
Speaker 14: Now is there anything that's really kind of the change
Speaker 14: revolved about coachbacks offense coming From New?
Speaker 10: Mexico good, AREA i mean just the smallest.
Speaker 11: Weeks Coach beck is the coach that you, know he
Speaker 11: looks for the best out of his player and you
Speaker 11: know he finds a way to get them in their best. Situation, so,
Speaker 11: uh you, know different guys can do different, things and you,
Speaker 11: know we we explore those.
Speaker 15: Talents you have a lot of new, receivers, Obviously tobias
Speaker 15: And larry are. There what have you kind of done
Speaker 15: to help bring them, along get the, maclimated The utah
Speaker 15: and so.
Speaker 6: Forth, yeah just the extra work.
Speaker 11: Summer you, know we're not allowed to be with the,
Speaker 11: coaches and just to tell those guys they let's go
Speaker 11: outside and. Work AND i mean they were there every
Speaker 11: day that we did those type of, practices so you
Speaker 11: know they're willing to.
Speaker 14: Grind do you have anything specifically that you want to
Speaker 14: work on during the next few next leading.
Speaker 6: On your first?
Speaker 1: Game, yeah just.
Speaker 11: CONTINUED i mean you're never gonna be one hundred, Percent
Speaker 11: you're never gonna be, perfect so just continue to learn
Speaker 11: the game and right, now just connection with the.
Speaker 1: Receivers though again we got to do a bunch of.
Speaker 11: New, guys so just be able to make that connection right.
Speaker 1: Now what's your first impression Of Mary.
Speaker 11: Well, Uh tobias is a. Guy he came out here
Speaker 11: and obviously he stood out. Today so you, know here's
Speaker 11: kudos of. Him but he's gonna be ready at u
Speaker 11: c L a for.
Speaker 2: Sure All, RIGHT i gotta do. IT i GOT i
Speaker 2: gotta do, it AND i only do it once a. Year,
Speaker 2: OKAY i only do it once a, year BUT i
Speaker 2: gotta do. It you have to my, Guy Paul, kirk
Speaker 2: my guy whoever else is up, there to all of
Speaker 2: my dear friends WHO i love and respect in the
Speaker 2: door at The university Of utah football. Program stop conducting
Speaker 2: interviews while the jugs machine is. On please please just,
Speaker 2: studiase maybe just while they're doing the, interviews just chill
Speaker 2: with the jugs.
Speaker 3: Machine you.
Speaker 1: Can you can turn it off for five to ten.
Speaker 1: MINUTES i know that you.
Speaker 8: Can.
Speaker 4: Yeah i've been doing those scrum interviews for long enough
Speaker 4: THAT i almost kind of think that it's part of the.
Speaker 4: Deal it's like ALMOST i don't Know edict's down from the, top,
Speaker 4: like hey throw them over. There BUT i digress BECAUSE
Speaker 4: i have mentioned it how many. Times, right we're not on.
Speaker 4: Video we rely on. Audio we are a radio and you,
Speaker 4: know Whatever.
Speaker 3: I'm tempted to write a strongly worded email To Taylor.
Speaker 2: Randall oh to rand to the. President you said it
Speaker 2: might come from the. Top i'll go to the, top.
Speaker 2: MAN i Know, TAYLOR i Know, teresa his assistant word
Speaker 2: for us AT. RSL i might write a stroke and
Speaker 2: you know. Me in my relationship with, email it does not.
Speaker 1: Exist, yeah you don't do too much. Email, NO i.
Speaker 2: Actually just cleaned out my email from the entire TIME
Speaker 2: i was.
Speaker 1: GONE i didn't look at it. Once good for.
Speaker 2: You so both the Personal gmail and THE espn email
Speaker 2: there Now i'm caught up love it got some new.
Speaker 2: Sponsors good news, there shout OUT dj checked out that
Speaker 2: email mostly just spam on The gmail. Side but, look
Speaker 2: it's not that. Hard and it's been going on. Forever
Speaker 2: do you know when this? Started when did we start
Speaker 2: being forced interview these players and coaches right next to
Speaker 2: the jugs?
Speaker 4: MACHINE i MEAN i have been covering the team since twenty,
Speaker 4: sixteen twenty, seventeen and it's been that.
Speaker 3: TIME i can't tell you about. Before but all, right
Speaker 3: well are the other? Interviews are?
Speaker 4: WE i got some sound for you with. It no,
Speaker 4: jugs no. Jugs you, know we walked. Inside okay to the, Media.
Speaker 1: Yeah can we just do that from now?
Speaker 3: On and we interviewed the coaches in this nice comfortable,
Speaker 3: environment so we'll play some of that.
Speaker 2: Now all, Right we'll let's you hear from the new
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator for The university of You.
Speaker 1: Tah Here's Jason.
Speaker 13: Beck spring ball is, about you, know installing the. Offense
Speaker 13: what is the next phase In paul camp in terms
Speaker 13: of your offense and getting it integrated with the.
Speaker 14: Guys you obviously need to be ready for all the
Speaker 14: situations that are going to be coming, up and it's
Speaker 14: really identifying who are the trustworthy, guys the playmaker. Guys
Speaker 14: when you put those eleven guys, together all doing their different,
Speaker 14: roles you know who can you depend on and count.
Speaker 6: On so it's a matter of finding.
Speaker 14: Consistency who showed up every day consistently getting their job
Speaker 14: done so we know we can count on him to
Speaker 14: put him out there for the. Game so that's where
Speaker 14: you're trying to develop that and tease that out of
Speaker 14: who to count on when you put him out.
Speaker 15: There the last six, Months devn's really taken some time
Speaker 15: to establish his full and, LEADERSHIP i guess heading into fall,
Speaker 15: camp as the offensive, coordinator and just what are you
Speaker 15: looking for him to continue to make steps and establish
Speaker 15: himself in the offense and and so.
Speaker 14: Forth, yeah just continuing to lead both first by example
Speaker 14: through his play and that real consistent playmaker doing the right,
Speaker 14: things and then being a good, teammate which means if you.
Speaker 6: See, something you, know you're not their, friend you're their.
Speaker 14: Teammate and whether that's positively reinforcing what they're, doing or
Speaker 14: whether that's whether that's asking him to live up to
Speaker 14: a different. Standard and so dev shows up every day
Speaker 14: and work charm and he leads by, example and so
Speaker 14: just continue to do that and then and bring everybody
Speaker 14: else a long and develop the chemistry with all those score.
Speaker 10: Guys when it comes TO qb two, spot what are
Speaker 10: you looking for and how quickly do you want to
Speaker 10: try to establish?
Speaker 14: That, YEAH i mean you're not too far away now
Speaker 14: from you start game.
Speaker 6: PLANNING ucla and.
Speaker 14: In the seasons here and so we have two scrimmages
Speaker 14: along the, way and by the end of that second,
Speaker 14: scrimmage you would really like to have an idea plan
Speaker 14: of here's what we're doing the same. Thing it's all, about,
Speaker 14: man who can you. Trust who can you depend, on
Speaker 14: who's being consistent and in that role when their numbers,
Speaker 14: called their opportunity comes, up who's going to be ready
Speaker 14: to take that.
Speaker 13: On Tobias merriweather And Larry simmons were the two receivers
Speaker 13: that you brought in during the spring. Portal how important
Speaker 13: are these next few weeks and getting them up to
Speaker 13: speed with the offense and their chemistry with damp.
Speaker 6: Hair, oh it's.
Speaker 14: Really important to see what they can bring to this
Speaker 14: team to help this often score points to win games
Speaker 14: and so them you, Know Bryce duke running back has
Speaker 14: experiences in so, yeah it's really the next two. Weeks you,
Speaker 14: know you're not making huge judgments right away because it's
Speaker 14: going to take a little time to settle in and
Speaker 14: get their rhythm and get. Going but once you kind
Speaker 14: of see that thing turn of now you're looking at
Speaker 14: that feedback of how are they, contributing what can we
Speaker 14: count on them for and to know how we can
Speaker 14: use many?
Speaker 13: Offense what led to your interest in your pursuit of?
Speaker 13: Them what qualities do they possess that you think translates?
Speaker 14: Here you, know we're looking for guys who can consistently,
Speaker 14: win get open catch the. Ball the more they can
Speaker 14: stretch the field or be versatile play both outside and
Speaker 14: inside is, great but it's all about who can consistently,
Speaker 14: win make plays catch the ball to help move the
Speaker 14: chains and score.
Speaker 10: Points kyle talks about this off it'll be pretty similar
Speaker 10: to what you ran At New. Mexico how similar to?
Speaker 10: That and kind of what are you trying to do
Speaker 10: that's maybe different or are you trying to get in from?
Speaker 14: There you, know we're still in that process of that playing.
Speaker 14: Out for, instance when we Started New mexico last, year
Speaker 14: we had five six skilled receivers that we thought were
Speaker 14: going to be some of our better. Players and as
Speaker 14: we headed in that first, game.
Speaker 6: That was kind of the trajectory we were.
Speaker 14: On, well as we got early in the, season some
Speaker 14: of those guys were struggling to consistently make, plays and
Speaker 14: our running backs were way rising up and what they were,
Speaker 14: doing and so that thing, shifted you, know in that,
Speaker 14: course and there became two receivers and a tight end
Speaker 14: that we really relied, on and then it was all
Speaker 14: these running back, guys and so the offense kind of
Speaker 14: molded more that.
Speaker 6: Direction so you, know.
Speaker 14: The devin and the on line that's the most predictable right.
Speaker 14: Now it's the other spots that are more the what
Speaker 14: direction is this going to? Take with the dependable, playmaker
Speaker 14: guys you trust and kind of the offense molding shifting the.
Speaker 8: Direction we're fans that haven't seen it.
Speaker 6: Yet how would you kind of describe your offensive?
Speaker 14: Philosophy, Man we really just want to put the right
Speaker 14: guys in the right places to make. Plays we want
Speaker 14: to adapt to what our strengths are and play to those.
Speaker 14: Strengths you, know real like eye. Test you know we're
Speaker 14: gonna go not at a fast, tempo but we're going
Speaker 14: to a. Huddle we're moving guys, around you, know kind of.
Speaker 14: Spread you, know THE qb reads and RPOs are in.
Speaker 6: There but.
Speaker 14: Year to year that thing always shifts to who are
Speaker 14: your who's your, personnel and what are their.
Speaker 6: Strengths in some years that's more, passing some years that's more.
Speaker 14: Running so you know that thing will vary because we
Speaker 14: want to play to our.
Speaker 13: Strengths when you have a our receiver or star running,
Speaker 13: back it's pretty easy to feature them in the. Offense
Speaker 13: it seems like you've got two star offensive. Tackles how
Speaker 13: do you go about featuring your offensive line and their
Speaker 13: strengths as.
Speaker 14: Players, yeah you, know we look at the quarterback, first
Speaker 14: and we look at the old line second of what
Speaker 14: they can. Do and the old line is obviously a
Speaker 14: strength specifically with the. Tackles, man they're, athletic so you
Speaker 14: can do things with your tackles where you utilize that
Speaker 14: athleticism that you may not do with other. Guys, so you,
Speaker 14: know getting them out on the edges and screens to
Speaker 14: block in, space having them pull in the run, game you,
Speaker 14: know to add to your run.
Speaker 6: Scheme so using their.
Speaker 14: Athleticism to block the second, level.
Speaker 6: To block them the perimeter is something you want to
Speaker 6: take advantage.
Speaker 16: Of you guys move autot at a tight end towards
Speaker 16: the tail end of. Spring you know what kind of
Speaker 16: led to that change and what are you looking for
Speaker 16: him to? Do you, know as Fall campie's ready to.
Speaker 14: Open, yeah he's kind of this high brid guy that's
Speaker 14: has good size and he's you, know two twenty and
Speaker 14: he's a, big strong. Receiver so we know the flexed
Speaker 14: out in the slot outside stuff is going to be
Speaker 14: natural for. Him so we, thought let's move him to
Speaker 14: the tight end room so we can develop more of
Speaker 14: those things that he's not as experienced that knowing from
Speaker 14: that room we can always, flex mount and do, stuff
Speaker 14: but to have him in the outside receiver room and
Speaker 14: then try to move him inside to do things you.
Speaker 6: Know a little. Different so so that was.
Speaker 14: Just the kind of have him in that room as
Speaker 14: a home base to expand his versatility and how he
Speaker 14: can help the.
Speaker 15: Spring in the, spring you Said waishan was. LIMITED i
Speaker 15: guess where's his health at and do you expect him to be.
Speaker 14: Full go For, Yeah, yeah he's, Healthy he's had a
Speaker 14: really good summer and.
Speaker 6: Yeah bringing to.
Speaker 10: Go, yeah how Much Doesne johnson change this office for?
Speaker 6: You, well that's going to be part of this.
Speaker 14: Discovery of how consistent, playmaking what is he bringing at
Speaker 14: a high, level because he definitely.
Speaker 6: Has you, know some juice speed and can do unique.
Speaker 14: Things so we definitely want to utilize, that take advantage
Speaker 14: of it and discoverment how much and in what ways
Speaker 14: and all of those things that we can count out
Speaker 14: at the, high high level more than just kind of
Speaker 14: a gimmicky.
Speaker 9: Thing here or.
Speaker 15: There, well Season devin ran what and also passed a?
Speaker 15: Lot is there the development that you're looking for maybe
Speaker 15: to have him be more passed first or maybe more run.
Speaker 6: FIRST i, mean walk me through your thinking on.
Speaker 14: THAT i, mean he'll as just him, Individually he'll continue
Speaker 14: to progress and develop and.
Speaker 6: It is really.
Speaker 14: Capable so this is not a thing where we were
Speaker 14: running them more because he was not capable as a.
Speaker 6: Pastor it was just.
Speaker 14: And he'll continue to develop that. Way it's really just
Speaker 14: the pieces around him and what we could do let
Speaker 14: the him and being more.
Speaker 6: Involved in the run.
Speaker 14: Game certain times in the season we had some critical
Speaker 14: injuries and so he became you, know if it's fourth and,
Speaker 14: two who do you trust most to get this? Thing
Speaker 14: with a couple you, know there's a spot where in
Speaker 14: the car was out with the high ankle spring and a.
Speaker 6: Couple of those.
Speaker 14: Games, no you absolutely Knew devin would get you the,
Speaker 14: first so you called.
Speaker 6: His number a little.
Speaker 14: More so it's just kind of dictated by you, know
Speaker 14: the matchup hell of you, know all those.
Speaker 6: Things you two more.
Speaker 15: Here he talked a lot about dev talked a lot about.
Speaker 6: Just improving his decision.
Speaker 15: Making you, know now that he's been here for six,
Speaker 15: months have you seen any improvements in that and just
Speaker 15: turn over.
Speaker 6: Ratio or just how he's reading the. Offense it's you.
Speaker 14: Know it's hard to put a total thing on that
Speaker 14: right now because spring was so.
Speaker 6: New with all the skill guys get on the same.
Speaker 14: Page so we'll kind of see where it picks, up
Speaker 14: you know in fall Campra but, no that's that's what
Speaker 14: it's all, about Right it's all about being a dynamic,
Speaker 14: player being a playmaker and protecting the ball because that
Speaker 14: dictates winning in such a high.
Speaker 6: Range so just going forward.
Speaker 16: That, way we talked about What Larry anderviz brings to
Speaker 16: the wide receiver. Room what Does bryce bring to this
Speaker 16: running back room.
Speaker 14: Now that he's joined based off the, film you, know
Speaker 14: it'd be great to see him and get. Him but
Speaker 14: based off the, film he brings an element catching the
Speaker 14: ball out of the. Backfield you, know he's proven where
Speaker 14: he's done that in the. Past and then his running
Speaker 14: skill set he can you, know he has some, juice
Speaker 14: so he can pretty good quickness and spring. It so
Speaker 14: being able to put him in situations to, Use, YEAH
Speaker 14: i wouldn't say he's quite half running back slot, receiver
Speaker 14: but he has a little more of that receiving quality
Speaker 14: than the typical running back.
Speaker 6: Does and so being able to see what he can
Speaker 6: do with those skill.
Speaker 2: Sets all right, there you got want to remind you
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Speaker 3: Till FOR rsl this, week it potentially is the busiest
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Speaker 2: Have really turned the, page unbeaten in eight of their last.
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Speaker 1: We doing doing, Great, bud appreciate the time as.
Speaker 2: Always so it comes to The League's, CUP i know
Speaker 2: you guys prioritize.
Speaker 1: EVERYTHING i, KNOW i know you want to win.
Speaker 2: Trophies what sort of dynamic or challenge that is a
Speaker 2: little bit different does this tournament kind of face you
Speaker 2: as the? Manager and then intertwined in the question when
Speaker 2: it simply comes down to how busy the schedule, is
Speaker 2: how are you guys balancing this?
Speaker 5: Out, Yeah SO i think the way they format a
Speaker 5: determament this year has been actually pretty good where they
Speaker 5: the first leg of, it the first three games are you,
Speaker 5: know within ten, days and so you know what you're up,
Speaker 5: against so you can really just focus on the first
Speaker 5: stage of The League's. Cup SO i think that's a
Speaker 5: big improvement from from last, year which was pretty which
Speaker 5: was intertwined with league. Games so here we've just taken
Speaker 5: ten games to focus in on our three, opponents and
Speaker 5: SO i think that part was. Good SO i think
Speaker 5: the biggest balance is again you, know we run a
Speaker 5: best forward in these tournaments and we, won we run
Speaker 5: the risk of really putting our players in precarious situations
Speaker 5: from the just fatigue, perspective which then increases the odds
Speaker 5: of injuries and and. Performances and SO i think that's
Speaker 5: been the toughest thing because these games are coming thick
Speaker 5: and fast and we want to keep. Running you, know
Speaker 5: a group that's been doing really well the last you,
Speaker 5: know seven eight weeks and building that chemistry and and that,
Speaker 5: connection but but you just run into you, know it's
Speaker 5: it's you, know it's really difficult from that. Perspective but
Speaker 5: but the guys have been you, KNOW i think we've
Speaker 5: been having. It we've found a good balance with the
Speaker 5: groups that we've been. Playing the guys have been doing really.
Speaker 5: Well but you, KNOW i think for this, game we're
Speaker 5: gonna have to give a couple of guys breathers and
Speaker 5: give other guys an. Opportunity AND i think that rotation
Speaker 5: has worked pretty. Well but, uh you, know we got
Speaker 5: one game left and, uh you, know we want to
Speaker 5: make sure we ended on the right.
Speaker 3: Now is it LEGA mx or Lega MkIS you got
Speaker 3: to help?
Speaker 1: ME i hear it, Right you're.
Speaker 5: Both, uh it just depends on you. KNOW i think
Speaker 5: for us it's LEGA. Max for them it's.
Speaker 2: Legs, well did you just throw a third option at me, geez, yeah.
Speaker 5: Because the thing IS m In spanish is m the,
Speaker 5: right but they say it really, fast so it sounds
Speaker 5: like m ekis, okay so it's it's m.
Speaker 1: Akis, yeah, okay all, right fair.
Speaker 5: Enough however your tongue feels on the, day if you
Speaker 5: want to roll, it you, know if you want to
Speaker 5: just let it, go it's league.
Speaker 2: Amakis i'm going league at Max. Pops i'm Just that's
Speaker 2: that's How i've always. Rolled that's How i'm That's i'm
Speaker 2: gonna continue to. Roll so let's let's talk about the
Speaker 2: first two. Matches The Club, america who massive. CLUB i
Speaker 2: think they finished second in this tournament before and obviously very.
Speaker 2: Famous it almost felt like a road, game so Many
Speaker 2: Club america. Fans And i'll tell you, what MAN i
Speaker 2: we'll get, to you, know the unfortunate ending with The
Speaker 2: San luis. Game The Ratha cabral performance was a Little
Speaker 2: romando ish when it came to the you, know him
Speaker 2: stepping up and saving those must have been a great.
Speaker 2: Moment what'd you like most about your team's win Against Club.
Speaker 5: America, well you, KNOW i think the biggest thing was
Speaker 5: the way the guys competed against the big. Team you,
Speaker 5: KNOW i think we've you, know we've we've done them
Speaker 5: in the league in the last recent. Weeks but going
Speaker 5: up against The juggernaut to start this, COMPETITION i thought
Speaker 5: the guys put their best foot forward and play the
Speaker 5: heck of a game on both sides of the, ball
Speaker 5: and you, know to concede with whatever it was like
Speaker 5: fifteen seconds left of injury. TIME i think it was
Speaker 5: a gut punch for the top of performance we. Had
Speaker 5: and then then penalty. Kicks rock stepped up and and you,
Speaker 5: know carried the team and and and and did what
Speaker 5: he's capable of, doing and that was. Fantastic so that
Speaker 5: was that that was a really good performance WHERE i felt, like,
Speaker 5: man it was just it was the last play of
Speaker 5: the game AND i knew we just had to make
Speaker 5: sure that we were you, know on. Point but to
Speaker 5: be fair to, them you, know rots and the tape,
Speaker 5: BACK i, mean there wasn't much where they could go
Speaker 5: with that, ball and in the little space that guy
Speaker 5: had to, SHOOT i mean he crushed. It so you,
Speaker 5: know tip your cap off to, them but felt got
Speaker 5: it for the.
Speaker 2: Guys and then moving over to the second game you
Speaker 2: played In League's. Cup it was another really good. Game
Speaker 2: The San luis game they got you IN. Pks what
Speaker 2: stood out?
Speaker 5: Most, YEAH i think, AGAIN i think this is where
Speaker 5: we ran into a bit of. Fatigue there's a few
Speaker 5: guys out there that have been, going you, Know Saturday
Speaker 5: wednesday for a month, now AND i think there's a
Speaker 5: bit of tired. Legs early. ON i think the first
Speaker 5: goal we conceded was, uncharacteristic a bit of sloppy play
Speaker 5: with the ball that transitioned into you, know sloppy playing
Speaker 5: about the. Ball and you, know they, they you, know
Speaker 5: they they tied up the game and then went on
Speaker 5: to take the, lead you. Know AND i think the
Speaker 5: interesting Thing spence, is you, know we had an opportunity
Speaker 5: to go to one and we didn't capitalize on A
Speaker 5: pk and and then momentum swung their. Way they scored
Speaker 5: a goal and. Minute you. Know but but in both,
Speaker 5: games the way the guys have responded from really tough,
Speaker 5: moments you, know being able to keep their heads in
Speaker 5: the in the, game after conceding in the last play
Speaker 5: the game Against america and winning THE pks and here
Speaker 5: conceding a goal late but still staying in the. Game
Speaker 5: and tying it up, LATE i think are really good
Speaker 5: examples of the mentality of the group and and and
Speaker 5: how we've come a long way from the start of the.
Speaker 5: Year and then obviously THE pk was the pks were,
Speaker 5: unfortunate not you, know PK's are a lot like a.
Speaker 5: Game you, know if you start with big, momentum whether
Speaker 5: it's a goal or a, save it just makes you,
Speaker 5: know it just makes it a lot easier for the
Speaker 5: next next guy's. Going if you miss on the first,
Speaker 5: one that goal sprinks a little bit and the goalkeeper
Speaker 5: gets a lot. Bigger so BUT i think we took
Speaker 5: a lot of important moments in that. Game we digested
Speaker 5: that as a group today spent probably a good half
Speaker 5: hour and change, on you, know managing moments to bring
Speaker 5: the game under our control a little bit. More and
Speaker 5: the guys were really. Receptive and so now we have
Speaker 5: correctro in this next, game which will be again another
Speaker 5: tough game and one that hopefully we can take experiences
Speaker 5: from the Sun least game and applying to this next.
Speaker 3: Game, okay what are you up? Against On?
Speaker 2: Wednesday and you, KNOW i started reading through the tiebreaker
Speaker 2: scenarios and THEN i decided to go on and live
Speaker 2: my life instead of. Continuing SO i can't sit here
Speaker 2: and tell you That i'm extremely well versed on exactly
Speaker 2: what you need to do to get. Through can you
Speaker 2: get through if you go get all three On wednesday
Speaker 2: and and tell me about this side that you're playing.
Speaker 5: Against, yeah so there's still a slim possibility that we
Speaker 5: can get. Through we need to take all three. Pks
Speaker 5: even the two points in pks is not an, option
Speaker 5: and then we're gonna need quite a bit of, help.
Speaker 5: RIGHT i think we're gonna need the help from four
Speaker 5: or five different. Teams and it is. Competition it can definitely.
Speaker 5: Happen so instead of worrying about all that, stuff just you,
Speaker 5: know put put a great group up there that's ready
Speaker 5: to win the game and then let the chips fall
Speaker 5: what they. May and as far as, correctro they're a
Speaker 5: team that you, know they haven't done well in this,
Speaker 5: tournament but the decent in the last turn in the
Speaker 5: last league. Play and, AGAIN i think when you come
Speaker 5: to this third, game it's really a battle of. ATTRITION i,
Speaker 5: mean because you, Know i'm talking to the coaches from
Speaker 5: The mexican teams and they're saying like this is. Impossible
Speaker 5: we don't even have a day to, prepare And i'm, saying, well,
Speaker 5: yeah it's not like we have an extra day. Either
Speaker 5: we're on the same. Thing so SO i, think you,
Speaker 5: KNOW i think players will be running on. Fumes and
Speaker 5: it's really about this is a mentality game for. Me
Speaker 5: obviously we're going to freshen it. Up but the expectation
Speaker 5: is is a team that wants it, more that digs,
Speaker 5: more that believes, more will be the team that wins the.
Speaker 2: Game, how if at, all do those dynamics shape the eleven,
Speaker 2: selection because it sounds like slim chance to. Advance you
Speaker 2: have put yourself back in the middle of THE mls
Speaker 2: playoff chase and we'll get. There but also you want
Speaker 2: to win and you hope that everything kind of falls your.
Speaker 2: Way so when it comes to all of those, dynamics
Speaker 2: it feels like, pops it could go either. Way you
Speaker 2: want to rest your guys for the playoff, chase or
Speaker 2: you want to go all in and get.
Speaker 1: Three how do you on that?
Speaker 5: Out, yeah that's a great. Question you, KNOW i think
Speaker 5: there's one, way and it's it's it's it's it's a
Speaker 5: bit of a damble and AND i think where you
Speaker 5: know that that That i'm willing to take it is
Speaker 5: have a few prescribed subs at have time so that
Speaker 5: you can get your best players on the, field but
Speaker 5: you can also manage their. Load, right we got. It
Speaker 5: we got a bunch of guys that are running in the.
Speaker 5: Red but if this we're going to be a league,
Speaker 5: game a midweek league, game which we're taking it as
Speaker 5: a midweek league, game you know our our our toughest
Speaker 5: day of the week of training would be would Be,
Speaker 5: wednesday and that equates forty five, minutes equates to our
Speaker 5: training session, load not the emotional, impact not all the
Speaker 5: other stuff which is which is also a, load but
Speaker 5: it's from just a physical output, perspective you, know having
Speaker 5: some prescribed changes at halftime to keep the group, fresh
Speaker 5: but also have your your your best players available to
Speaker 5: compete in this. GAME i think as a as a
Speaker 5: good middle. Road and where where it might where you
Speaker 5: might get caught with that is obviously if you need
Speaker 5: to make some if someone gets injured lat in, games
Speaker 5: you might be under. It but BUT i think you
Speaker 5: know the guys that the guys that we're playing the
Speaker 5: majority of the minutes are have have been, rested are
Speaker 5: robust and feel like it's a it's a calculated risk
Speaker 5: that we're willing to take to put ourselves in position
Speaker 5: to both get our best players on the, field but
Speaker 5: also that put them through the grinder AS Mls league
Speaker 5: play continues. THEREAFTER i know.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of yesterday's. News, HOWEVER i was
Speaker 2: out of town last, week and SO i haven't had
Speaker 2: a chance to talk to you on air about the
Speaker 2: return Of Chi sho and what that was, like and
Speaker 2: also getting a win over a really Good San jos
Speaker 2: a team which is more important than than. Anything but
Speaker 2: what was it like to Have Chia cho back in
Speaker 2: the building and give me your thoughts on that?
Speaker 5: Win, yeah it was. Strange it was almost, surreal you.
Speaker 5: Know you, KNOW i Think Chie show having been in
Speaker 5: that stadium all over last year and in the, sea you,
Speaker 5: know his connection with with the, fans it was really.
Speaker 5: Peculiar AND i think for me seeing him across the
Speaker 5: field and knowing that he's cable, of you, know scoring
Speaker 5: goals from, nowhere was was Obviously, yeah you, know it
Speaker 5: gave me a bit of. Nerves but the guys just
Speaker 5: really handled themselves really. Well that played a great. Game
Speaker 5: they knew what the what they're up against. Him he's
Speaker 5: got a lot of friends in the locker room, still
Speaker 5: and so for, me it was always always interesting to
Speaker 5: see the dynamic when a player of his magnitude comes
Speaker 5: back to the, club how those players are going to,
Speaker 5: respond because obviously he was the man when he was,
Speaker 5: here and those players looked at him like the leader
Speaker 5: and the, captain and so sometimes there's just almost subservient
Speaker 5: field when when that player comes back in a different.
Speaker 5: Team but you wouldn't have noticed That chicha was with
Speaker 5: our group last year because these, guys these guys played
Speaker 5: fantastic and and they didn't take their foot off the
Speaker 5: gas from, minute you, know from the first minute to the.
Speaker 5: Last so really proud of that. Performance and then from
Speaker 5: as far as the, collective you, know obviously gave us
Speaker 5: a big three points because they're they're they're right around
Speaker 5: where we are on the. Table and so again another
Speaker 5: big psychological hurdle for, us you, know starting and second
Speaker 5: to last in The west and then kind of marching
Speaker 5: up and so we got really good momentum going and
Speaker 5: it was really good to get that result against you,
Speaker 5: know a dynamic a team Like San jose and against
Speaker 5: our old teammate And.
Speaker 2: Chicha did you have an opportunity to catch up with
Speaker 2: them at, all and if, so what were those?
Speaker 1: Conversations?
Speaker 5: Like, Yeah, no he was really, gracious you, know he,
Speaker 5: says you, know obviously he, misses he misses not being
Speaker 5: here with the, group you, know with the, fans the,
Speaker 5: stadium like it brought back a lot of old. Feelings
Speaker 5: but he was really grateful for the time that he
Speaker 5: spent here, with you, know with with his teammates and the,
Speaker 5: staff and it was kind of a welcome, back and you,
Speaker 5: know it was it was a really Strange it was really,
Speaker 5: strange but you, KNOW i Think chicho he's he's a
Speaker 5: real gracious human being and and shared that with not
Speaker 5: only myself and the, staff but also with all his.
Speaker 5: Teammates so it was it was good to see you show,
Speaker 5: back And i'm grateful that we were able to give
Speaker 5: it three.
Speaker 2: Points tell me what you've seen both in training and
Speaker 2: then during matches From diego since he came. BACK i,
Speaker 2: mean he got the goal the other. Night it was
Speaker 2: the first goal for you guys Since. May it was
Speaker 2: a little bit of a poacher's.
Speaker 1: Goal do you.
Speaker 2: RESPECT i, Mean i'm not calling him that we know
Speaker 2: how good he. Is is is there a little? Fatigue
Speaker 2: is there a little like? Adjustment tell me where you're
Speaker 2: seeing From diego right?
Speaker 5: Now, YEAH i think you hear the nail on the,
Speaker 5: head you, KNOW i think you, know going into this last,
Speaker 5: Game Diego luna has played fifteen matches in the last seven, weeks,
Speaker 5: Right and that is obviously What i'm talking. About when
Speaker 5: when when the players are playing in the red from
Speaker 5: a physical load, perspective like and then you'd taken all the,
Speaker 5: travel you, know they played some friendly games before The Gold,
Speaker 5: cup played all The Gold cup games, here and then
Speaker 5: obviously he went to THE Ms All Star. Game all
Speaker 5: those little things add up and it doesn't let the
Speaker 5: body reset in the way that it needs. To and
Speaker 5: AND i think the other part too, is you, KNOW
Speaker 5: i think he, feels and we've been talking with a
Speaker 5: lot about this that you, know he's sometimes he's got
Speaker 5: to do more than what he needs to with our.
Speaker 5: Group AND i, mean and you, know in my message
Speaker 5: to him as this group was coming when you were,
Speaker 5: gone and all we need you to do is just
Speaker 5: recover the right, way get your feedback and then just
Speaker 5: play play as you. Have then you don't need to
Speaker 5: do any anything more other than just do your job
Speaker 5: as the best of your. Ability and if you can do,
Speaker 5: that you're you're going to get back into not only you,
Speaker 5: know helping the team, win but continue on this trajectory
Speaker 5: of development and growth that has been incredible from the
Speaker 5: start of the.
Speaker 2: Year so ultimately we and we'll get to the new,
Speaker 2: additions but before you get, there you, KNOW i didn't
Speaker 2: know much About lachlan when he was, acquired felt like
Speaker 2: he had some moments early. On why ultimately do you
Speaker 2: think it didn't work out With lachlan as he's he's
Speaker 2: now moved.
Speaker 5: On, yeah you, KNOW i think every you, know it's
Speaker 5: that's a great, question AND i think locklom would probably
Speaker 5: have the best answer to. THAT i think for, me you,
Speaker 5: know it's not an easy league to assimilate. To it's
Speaker 5: and if you're not getting the playing, time it's really
Speaker 5: hard to get those wheels, turning and and and and
Speaker 5: and to commit to your craft away from home is
Speaker 5: very difficult as. Well SO i think there's a lot
Speaker 5: of there's a couple of things going on away from
Speaker 5: the field that were that were difficult for, him and
Speaker 5: then he wasn't getting the type of reps and and
Speaker 5: so you, know one of the THINGS i always talk
Speaker 5: to young players about is everyone wants to know what
Speaker 5: they need to do to play On saturdays the big.
Speaker 5: Games And i'm saying the most important days Are tuesday Through,
Speaker 5: friday and until you're the best player On tuesday Through,
Speaker 5: friday it's going to be very difficult to get a
Speaker 5: crack On. Saturday and so that's why it has to
Speaker 5: be a real commitment to to your, profession Right it's
Speaker 5: it's it's the days that nobody cares. About no one's
Speaker 5: gonna write it out your training session On wednesday on social.
Speaker 5: Media you're never getting, likes no one. Cares but however
Speaker 5: they're the most. Important AND i feel like it establishes
Speaker 5: a great foundation for young players to understand that, this this,
Speaker 5: commitment this training, session sharpening the tools is the only
Speaker 5: way forward. Forever and then once you do start playing
Speaker 5: On saturdays, regularly you got to double down on The
Speaker 5: tuesday Through. Friday AND i just don't think he ever
Speaker 5: got up to speed and performed at a level throughout
Speaker 5: the week that would give him more opportunities at the
Speaker 5: weekend and so unfortunately it just didn't work out for.
Speaker 5: Him but, hopefully and And i've heard this quite a
Speaker 5: few times spent over the course Of mike you, know
Speaker 5: my my years coaching is, uh you, know four or
Speaker 5: five years later runningto players and they're, like NOW i
Speaker 5: know what you. MEAN i didn't you. Know and AND
Speaker 5: i Think einstein has a quote where it's, like you
Speaker 5: can't fix the problem in the same place that it.
Speaker 5: Occurs sometimes you need separation from the experience or from you,
Speaker 5: know the words that you're parents give you or you,
Speaker 5: know mentors give, you and you need to go out
Speaker 5: and with that experience and then and then it'll make
Speaker 5: sense to. You so you, know hopefully you know sooner
Speaker 5: the randolum, later you, KNOW i understand that it's it's
Speaker 5: really about being a master of your, craft and that
Speaker 5: only Happens tuesday Through, friday and then we can talk
Speaker 5: about the games and all that other.
Speaker 2: Stuff and also and, LOOK i want to be, CLEAR
Speaker 2: i have zero inside information about what happened With, lachlan
Speaker 2: BUT i find.
Speaker 1: It i've always found this.
Speaker 2: Fascinating, pablo any, sport whatever it, is the the the
Speaker 2: art of analyzing talent combined with the necessary knowledge of
Speaker 2: whether or not the talent is also a. Professional and
Speaker 2: that's that's an intangible. Thing it's really really hard to
Speaker 2: identify because, ultimately AND i say this all the, time
Speaker 2: just get me the, talent then we'll figure it. Out you,
Speaker 2: KNOW i don't care if there's redundancy Between diogo And.
Speaker 2: Diego they're both. Awesome figured. Out give me the talent's
Speaker 2: figure it. Out how do you go about AND i
Speaker 2: know it's a. COLLABORATION i know It's kurt his, Staff,
Speaker 2: Jason tony and then you and your, staff how do
Speaker 2: you go about the best way possible to understand whether
Speaker 2: or Not, okay we like the, talent but is he
Speaker 2: is he a? Pro does he know what to do
Speaker 2: to be professional every? Day how do you do?
Speaker 5: That?
Speaker 1: Then how quickly do you notice whether or not that's
Speaker 1: going to be an?
Speaker 5: Issue, YEAH i think that's the toughest, Thing, Spence and
Speaker 5: and to be, fair you, know we can extrapolate a
Speaker 5: lot of information from like has this player travel a?
Speaker 5: Lot you, know has he has he been To europe?
Speaker 5: Before has he left his country? Before because that's a
Speaker 5: big that's a big thing for us because if he's done.
Speaker 5: That that means he's got the capability of living away
Speaker 5: from family and still. Excelling, Right SO i think that's
Speaker 5: that's a big, thing.
Speaker 13: You.
Speaker 5: Know and then and then it's really zoom zoom calls
Speaker 5: and conversation and our leadership Coach Grant barge is on
Speaker 5: these calls of us and it has a bunch of
Speaker 5: great questions that hopefully will disseminate some some personality, things
Speaker 5: right like is he is he a does he have
Speaker 5: a growth mindset versus a fixed? Mindset like some of
Speaker 5: these questions can give you this, way but at the
Speaker 5: end of the, day it's all it's all the roll
Speaker 5: of the. Dice AND i say that because the human
Speaker 5: being is so. Complex in other, words the problems that
Speaker 5: you'll face here won't be like the issues that you face.
Speaker 5: Elsewhere or if you're going through some kind of personal stuff, now,
Speaker 5: well the interview we did six weeks ago has nothing
Speaker 5: to do with what you're going through. Now and we're
Speaker 5: all feeling beings and so if we're not in a
Speaker 5: good way off the, field it's going to be very
Speaker 5: difficult to have the player that we thought we Had
Speaker 5: because you're going through some stuff off the, field and
Speaker 5: so there's so many factors that go into the person
Speaker 5: being able to be the best. Professional BUT i think
Speaker 5: we do a wonderful job of asking the right questions
Speaker 5: of getting to, know you, know looking at body language
Speaker 5: on the, zoom, right is he slumped? Over does he
Speaker 5: look engaged or you, know is he? Upright he is he?
Speaker 5: Motivated you? Know BUT i also had a player WHEN
Speaker 5: i was In colorado and it was almost like someone
Speaker 5: gave him the cheat sheet to me and he, says
Speaker 5: listen because this guy he scored a ton of goals
Speaker 5: in his. League And i'm, like how are we get this? Guy,
Speaker 5: like this guy's a big time. Player and he gets
Speaker 5: on the zoom and he, SAYS i work every, day,
Speaker 5: COACH i, Will i'll like do his study the soccer
Speaker 5: AND i work every day AND i work every, day
Speaker 5: And i'm, like oh, man this is my. Guy and
Speaker 5: he gets there and it was like the complete opposite
Speaker 5: of what you. Said and THEN i went back to
Speaker 5: the coaches and they're, like, yeah he works. Hard, yeah
Speaker 5: but he works hard for that league over, there, Right
Speaker 5: and so then there's a subjectivity as to what you,
Speaker 5: know a professional and a hard worker looks like so
Speaker 5: there's so many there's so many variables that go into,
Speaker 5: it and really what we want to see is, Like,
Speaker 5: okay now you're, here who are? You you? Know and
Speaker 5: unfortunately sometimes that means it doesn't always. Work and you,
Speaker 5: KNOW i think lafc is we've seen this in two
Speaker 5: players this. Year one they grabbed a you, know A
Speaker 5: turkish international and they bought him In january and they
Speaker 5: just let him in the. Summer and this is a
Speaker 5: guy with a long, resume right scoring goals and all
Speaker 5: kinds of different, leagues but it just didn't work. Right
Speaker 5: and then you Have, jeru who every you, know one
Speaker 5: of the best strikers of our, time was here for
Speaker 5: a year and it didn't work. Right so even if
Speaker 5: you know, everything if if you've seen them play ON
Speaker 5: tv And Champions league And World cups and all these different,
Speaker 5: things sometimes it's just not the right. Thing and it
Speaker 5: could be the, place it could be the way they,
Speaker 5: play but it could also be there's a there's there's
Speaker 5: there's a life outside of the game that has a
Speaker 5: huge impact on how these players behave once they're on the.
Speaker 1: Ground what's gotten In? Ojeita what's going on?
Speaker 2: HERE i mean one goal in like eighty games and
Speaker 2: now three in the past, Three like.
Speaker 3: What and what sort of? Look everybody likes to score.
Speaker 2: Goals it doesn't matter what position you, play what what
Speaker 2: sort of jews can that give?
Speaker 5: Them, well it's IT'S i think ironically it brings him
Speaker 5: a lot of confidence and all the other little things
Speaker 5: that we're asking them to do from pivot. Position, RIGHT
Speaker 5: i can answer. QUEST i think he's watching a lot
Speaker 5: Of RONALDO messi. Highlight uh it's it's, yeah it's out
Speaker 5: of His you, know he doesn't score a lot in.
Speaker 5: Training he just does his job and does a really
Speaker 5: good job at that and facilitating the ball from the
Speaker 5: back to the front and keep you, know and. Pressing
Speaker 5: but you know he's he's got a hot. Hand and
Speaker 5: you know the crazy thing is is once once you
Speaker 5: believe your goal, scorer, uh you're you're going to be scoring,
Speaker 5: goals whether it's on set pieces like he did at the,
Speaker 5: weekend or if that second goal he, scored he whipped
Speaker 5: it in and found the back. Post you, Know so
Speaker 5: like these things start. Happening and the same thing with
Speaker 5: the strikers or players that feel like they can't score,
Speaker 5: it they just won't you, Know so we're gonna we're
Speaker 5: gonna keep riding him and keep asking him to do
Speaker 5: what he's been, doing because he's been a huge. Catalyst
Speaker 5: AND i, think you, know for our group that's been
Speaker 5: struggling to score goals this. Year you, know we talked
Speaker 5: with The pivots quite a bit and, said, hey, guys,
Speaker 5: LISTEN I mecha got forored and in the last game
Speaker 5: and combined nicely at the top of the, box AND
Speaker 5: i Think johnny got the foul for A. Pk so
Speaker 5: like they're getting more involved in the attack AND i
Speaker 5: think that's what we need in order to be a
Speaker 5: more dynamic.
Speaker 2: Team well and as we say here today With mecha
Speaker 2: and by the, way would you characterize A mecca as
Speaker 2: one hundred percent?
Speaker 5: Yet, No, NO i think he's still about sixty minutes.
Speaker 5: Fit and it's so tough in the middle of the
Speaker 5: season to go from out six weeks then ramping him back.
Speaker 5: Up But i'll tell you. Spent you, know the performances
Speaker 5: that he's had have been really really, sharp really sharp
Speaker 5: coming into games and really changing you, know the games
Speaker 5: that he. STARTED i thought he's played really. Well so he's.
Speaker 5: Close he's just not he's not all the way. There
Speaker 5: he will continue to build up his minutes in lieu
Speaker 5: of a strong push towards the.
Speaker 2: End, well it's interesting as you kind of look at
Speaker 2: this a little, bit BECAUSE i Thought ruiz Against Club
Speaker 2: america was, dynamic and you've got A mecha coming back
Speaker 2: healthy and Suddenly ojita's on. Fire like that positional group
Speaker 2: you have with that central holding mid is so so
Speaker 2: strong and certainly a. Lynchbin are all three of them
Speaker 2: good enough where maybe you look at some sort of
Speaker 2: way to get all three of them on the, field
Speaker 2: even if one of them has to play in a different.
Speaker 1: Spot, well you.
Speaker 5: KNOW i think we've built Such it's taken so long
Speaker 5: to get the attacking group, going AND i feel like
Speaker 5: they're doing a great, job you, Know, Diego diogo and
Speaker 5: That gozo and then obviously we have some new players
Speaker 5: in camp now that you, Know for as much As
Speaker 5: i'd like to do, that we also have to remember
Speaker 5: that in order to have a good, run you're gonna need.
Speaker 5: Death anything happens to these, guys we'd have no replacement
Speaker 5: for what they're capable of, doing and so you, know
Speaker 5: the rotations would be really important to keep them all
Speaker 5: engaged in it all, sharp so it won't be like
Speaker 5: just two guys. Playing it'll be a good. Rotation and
Speaker 5: what it allows us to do is look at our. Opponents,
Speaker 5: Right so if opponent's playing a really high line and
Speaker 5: want to play us really, Tight Pablo ruics has to
Speaker 5: be in that. Game if you, know if there's gonna
Speaker 5: be space between their their front line and their back,
Speaker 5: line we can use A mecca And oheita because they're
Speaker 5: both really good with driving with the ball and breaking
Speaker 5: lines on the, dribble and then any other combination will
Speaker 5: work as. Well so you, KNOW i think it lends
Speaker 5: itself to having a really good combination of those, three
Speaker 5: which will be, critical and we can now keep them.
Speaker 5: Fresh for last, year you, know A mecca And ojeda
Speaker 5: played every almost every minute of every game and and
Speaker 5: towards the end they're, running they're running on. Fumes and
Speaker 5: SO i think the three of these guys playing at
Speaker 5: the level that they're playing off playing at give us
Speaker 5: not only great options in the short, term but will
Speaker 5: allow us to keep them fresh as we progress with the.
Speaker 2: Season All, right with a few remaining, minutes let's talk
Speaker 2: about the new toys you have to play. With we've
Speaker 2: been waiting anxiously for some reinforcements and.
Speaker 1: They're on the. Way so. Wrong Rawan cruise has been
Speaker 1: on the ground for a.
Speaker 2: Week i'm told to twenty four year Old Brazilian, pablo
Speaker 2: AS i always, Say i'm not gonna lie to. YOU
Speaker 2: i have not been grinding On botafogo. Tape SO i
Speaker 2: don't know much about this young. Man but in your limited,
Speaker 2: experience what sort of player is?
Speaker 3: He what sort of person is? He and when you
Speaker 3: think we'll.
Speaker 5: See, Him, yeah he's a fantastic. Individual he's got a
Speaker 5: really he's got a big heart and and just always
Speaker 5: a smile in the. Space a little bit Like Anderson
Speaker 5: julio as far as the energy gives, off is really really.
Speaker 5: Positive as far as his, play he's kind of like
Speaker 5: a nine and a half type player where he's got
Speaker 5: the he's got the defensity to, stretch but he's got
Speaker 5: really really soft feet to combine as, well and so
Speaker 5: a player that can play on the highest line but
Speaker 5: also dropping into the space between the, lines being able
Speaker 5: to combine with teammates running off of them and or
Speaker 5: turning and going with the. Ball so fantastic technically and
Speaker 5: he's good in front of, goal and he's can hit
Speaker 5: the ball with both, feet so a really dynamic. Player
Speaker 5: AND i think it's going to help some of our
Speaker 5: younger play players because What i've seen in you, know
Speaker 5: the four training sessions that we've had with, him is
Speaker 5: the way he brings and makes makes the teammates around
Speaker 5: him better as. Well so he's been a he's been a, great,
Speaker 5: uh you, know great player to have him with, camp
Speaker 5: and obviously we'll see. More we haven't been able to
Speaker 5: see him over big spaces, yet but obviously we have
Speaker 5: a lot of tape and looked at it and he
Speaker 5: does a lot of things that we need for our.
Speaker 5: Team SO i think he'll be a great pick for
Speaker 5: our for our.
Speaker 2: Group, finally before say you, LOSE i also have not
Speaker 2: been dialed into The Czech First league. Lately, However Victor
Speaker 2: OLATUNJI i believe is on the ground and we'll await his, visa,
Speaker 2: medical all those things to get. Done but he is
Speaker 2: the other reinforcement addition on the. Way same, question what
Speaker 2: kind of, player what kind of? Person when do you
Speaker 2: think we'll see?
Speaker 7: Him?
Speaker 5: Yeah another, uh he's a voracious, reader is what we
Speaker 5: learned when we did the. Zoom he's really well, spoken
Speaker 5: it speaks Perfect, english has travel to so many different
Speaker 5: places In. Europe and from a physical, perspective you, know
Speaker 5: he's he's he's a big, body, right you. Know you
Speaker 5: Know hamison a, lave you, know and he's probably one
Speaker 5: of the biggest GUYS i. Know AND i would say
Speaker 5: he's Like hamison A lave on, stilts. Right he's six foot,
Speaker 5: four a towering figure who does a great job stretching
Speaker 5: the back line and getting into good goal scoring positions
Speaker 5: in the. Box and SO i you, KNOW i think
Speaker 5: it does a couple of. THINGS i, think you, know
Speaker 5: our team is relatively a small, team a short, team
Speaker 5: so his size and his ability to hold hold up
Speaker 5: the ball and run behind, defences along with getting in
Speaker 5: the box for for guys Like diogo And, diego combining
Speaker 5: at the top and or crossing. Balls NOW i think
Speaker 5: we have a real a real option With alatunji With
Speaker 5: victor to be a real. Threat so both these both
Speaker 5: these players who want And VICTOR i think will make
Speaker 5: us a much, deeper a much more dynamic team in the.
Speaker 3: ATTACK i think any other additions before that window, closes you.
Speaker 5: KNOW i talked To kurt. Today he, says there's there's
Speaker 5: there's a couple there that may or may not come.
Speaker 5: Through so you, KNOW i think these were these were
Speaker 5: our primary targets and uh and we were able to secure.
Speaker 5: Them so that's that's. Awesome and then you, know if
Speaker 5: we get, one, one one or two more it would
Speaker 5: be it'd be a. Slam So i'll keep my fingers.
Speaker 5: Crossed but but more, IMPORTANTLY i think these guys are.
Speaker 5: Well we'll take up a lot of attention to really
Speaker 5: focusing on and and acclimating them into the. Group so really,
Speaker 5: excited AND i think a, couple you, KNOW i think
Speaker 5: both of them may be available for The Red bulls,
Speaker 5: game with maybe a cruise being available for the game On.
Speaker 5: Wednesday SO i really, excited uh in this next week
Speaker 5: to get these guys into the group and and start
Speaker 5: cracking on there we.
Speaker 2: Go, well it's been fun to see the forum turn
Speaker 2: around and be excited to see what you do with
Speaker 2: these new. Pieces thanks for the, time, BUDDY a good.
Speaker 5: Week, okay Thanks, nane appreciate it.
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