WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.719 --> 00:00:07.280 Today, and welcome back to the show, writer Lee. He 2 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:11.080 is producer and host of Raised by Giants, which provides 3 00:00:11.080 --> 00:00:18.320 a platform for philosophers, researchers, spiritual teachers, authors contact these experiencers, channelers, 4 00:00:18.359 --> 00:00:24.440 and UFO researchers to come together and communicate their studies, obsertions, thoughts, ideas, 5 00:00:24.480 --> 00:00:29.239 reflections and research, infusing them into common everyday knowledge with 6 00:00:29.399 --> 00:00:32.439 new understandings of life and the universe. 7 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:34.799 Writer, welcome back. How you doing. 8 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:39.560 I'm doing great, Chris, Thanks so much for inviting me 9 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:43.479 on your show to talk about a developing thing that's 10 00:00:43.479 --> 00:00:46.759 happening right now within the community. It's an explosion. So 11 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:48.200 happy to be here. Thank you. 12 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:51.359 Hell yeah, man, this is going to be great. Like 13 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:53.880 you said, it's a thing we'll be discussing today. It's 14 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:59.560 an ongoing saga of fake space battles channeling an entire reality. 15 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:02.840 I was actually adopted by some poor folks that fed 16 00:01:02.840 --> 00:01:07.239 into the craziness as well as lawsuits and now an 17 00:01:07.280 --> 00:01:13.040 admittance of procuring said bullshit via court testimony, and that 18 00:01:13.159 --> 00:01:17.280 ladies and gentlemen, is the secret space soldier extraordinary Corey 19 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:21.040 good Now, like you said, this is still an unfolding story, 20 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:24.920 but one that's very important for truth seekers out there, 21 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:29.799 like yourself, like myself. The conspiracy realms are sometimes dark 22 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:35.239 and sometimes unfortunately fake or even made up, and it 23 00:01:35.319 --> 00:01:38.439 really doesn't make me happy to expose these folks. 24 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:40.640 But this guy, this guy. 25 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:45.400 In particular, is one that I've been warning about for years. Writer, 26 00:01:45.799 --> 00:01:48.319 you're opening statements, my friend. 27 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:52.359 Yes, I agree, and I've really the past eight months 28 00:01:52.480 --> 00:01:56.719 or so I've been trying to expose this entire thing, 29 00:01:56.879 --> 00:02:01.239 like not only just Corey Good, but everybody in the 30 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:06.799 Secret Space program twenty them back nonsense. And if you remember, 31 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:11.039 around a month ago, I actually had the scoop on 32 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:14.560 this before anybody else even really knew about it. But 33 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:17.560 I wasn't able to release it because the person that 34 00:02:17.639 --> 00:02:21.159 I interviewed told me that I needed to take it 35 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:25.039 down because it's an ongoing lawsuit. And then I remember 36 00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:26.639 you telling me you were like, it's going to come 37 00:02:26.680 --> 00:02:29.159 out anyway, and I really didn't think that it was 38 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:32.000 going to come out like this in this like a 39 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:38.199 actual video file of a deposition, right, But from my understanding, 40 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:43.840 Corey Good's lawyer didn't go through the right proceedings in 41 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:48.360 order to get the documentation of the video protected right, 42 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:52.360 So she had thirty days in order to you know, 43 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:56.560 make the documents you know, protected so that no one 44 00:02:56.599 --> 00:02:59.080 could release them, and she didn't do that. So the 45 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:03.039 thirty days last, and then all the document all the 46 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:07.479 video documents came out, which there is way more video 47 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:12.439 documents that are to be released. There's actually six of them. 48 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:16.000 The ones that's out there right now is actually part 49 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:21.400 three of a six part deposition lawsuit of Corey Good. 50 00:03:21.439 --> 00:03:25.879 So there's five other hours of him being questioned by 51 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:29.840 the defense attorney that we don't have access to yet, 52 00:03:29.879 --> 00:03:32.039 but I have a feeling that they're going to come out. 53 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:37.080 But yeah, if people haven't watched it yet, I think 54 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:40.319 the first video that you sent me was on Vimeo, 55 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:43.000 and then that one got taken down, but it's on 56 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:46.120 bit Shooting and it's actually on YouTube now. And Stephen 57 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:49.439 Cambion from truth Seekers has been doing commentary on it 58 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:51.800 and everyone too, and I wanted to give him a 59 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:54.479 shout out because he's been doing really good work with 60 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:59.159 it as well. But yeah, I've been digging deep into 61 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:01.280 this whole thing, and there's been people that's been doing 62 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:03.280 it way longer than me, you know, I've just kind 63 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:05.360 of I came in late to the game really, so 64 00:04:05.759 --> 00:04:08.719 you know, I just wanted to give everybody else their comumpets, 65 00:04:08.759 --> 00:04:12.840 because you know, Shane Sodor, for sure, he's been talking 66 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:17.040 about this for eight years now, you know, exposing Corey Good, 67 00:04:17.199 --> 00:04:20.519 and you know a lot of really really interesting things 68 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:24.160 came out in that one video that I've solved an 69 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:27.920 hour long in the deposition, and he basically says that 70 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:32.040 he made everything up, not even that it's even channeled. 71 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:36.199 He pretty much says, like, I made all this stuff up. 72 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:40.120 I made up the Glack Federation, I made up the 73 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:45.480 Secret Space Program, I made up the twenty and back, 74 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:47.920 I made up Dark Fleet, and all of these things 75 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:51.120 are a part of his intellectual property that he owns, 76 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:54.759 that he created and that he put in his book. 77 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:58.600 And then there's also a point in there where the 78 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:02.480 defense attorney asked him, you know, are you letting people 79 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:05.439 know because we've all been under the impression his audience 80 00:05:05.480 --> 00:05:08.839 this entire time that these experiences are real. You know, 81 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:11.560 that was like his claim to fame, that he's really 82 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:16.160 physically having these experiences and he's physically meeting these beings, 83 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:19.959 and he's physically in space right and the lawyer asked 84 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:23.040 him at one point, he was like, are you letting 85 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:26.560 people know that you know these stories are fake, that 86 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:29.560 you've made all this stuff up? And he says, yeah. 87 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:34.399 In my book, I specifically say that there's Corey Good, 88 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:38.959 which is me, and then there's the exaggerated, made up 89 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:44.079 version of Corey Good with all of these experiences, right, 90 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:47.800 and it's so telling. Bro It basically, you know, proves 91 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:50.480 everything that everyone's been saying about him. And then it 92 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:54.600 just brings in the question everybody this came after him? Really, 93 00:05:54.600 --> 00:05:58.199 that's my big thing with this entire thing is that 94 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:02.800 if his stories made up and that he created all 95 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:06.839 of them, then that also means that everybody else's story 96 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:09.800 that came after him is also made up. You know, 97 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:13.519 he plainly states that he created all this stuff. He 98 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:18.480 created Darkfleet, he created a shar the being that from 99 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:22.519 Inner Earth that he channels, you know. So it's like, 100 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:25.959 and whether people want to admit it or not, whether 101 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:29.040 the Secret Space Program people, the whistleblowers, the Super Soldier 102 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:32.959 people want to admit it or not, they did take 103 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:36.240 a lot of things from his story and then created 104 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:39.240 their own story. He even talks about it in the 105 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:40.240 deposition suit. 106 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:44.000 Now, before we get too far into everything, first, I 107 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:46.160 think we should give people a little bit of history 108 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:49.079 that may not be familiar with who Corey Good is 109 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:51.519 and how he came on the scene. And there's a 110 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:54.560 couple of things. There's a few things actually that he 111 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:59.800 claims that I believe we're in the public consciousness, that 112 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:04.199 were out there online in different books, like earlier books, 113 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:07.680 older books that he kind of picked from and created 114 00:07:07.720 --> 00:07:09.800 this story from. But there, you know, there were a 115 00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:14.399 few things that did exist that weren't exactly his intellectual property, 116 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:17.759 that he actually stole from others before him. So we'll 117 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:20.839 get into that too. But for those that really aren't familiar, 118 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:24.000 I'm not sure exactly when Corey Good came on the scene. 119 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:26.839 I was not one of his followers ever. Ever since 120 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:28.560 I first heard his story, I was like, oh, this 121 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:33.120 is bullshit. But I remember it was David Wilcock who 122 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:36.800 introduced him really to the world, and he had been 123 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:40.920 on some online forums talking about his experiences with the 124 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:44.160 Secret Space Program and Blue Avians and all these things. 125 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:48.959 And as soon as Wilcock introduced him to the community, 126 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:52.199 it blew up and everybody just like latched onto his 127 00:07:52.279 --> 00:07:54.920 stories and blindly believed. I don't know if it's because 128 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:58.120 Wilcock had some kind of you know, a secret space 129 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:01.199 community cloud, which he did, people believed his shit as well. 130 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:03.759 But we'll get into him too and where he stands 131 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:06.199 in all this. I've seen a few videos of him lately. 132 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:09.839 He's not looking good. He looks like he just fucking 133 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:13.920 went off the deep end somehow. But anyway, Corey was 134 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:18.240 introduced by David Wilcock, got popular very fast. Then they 135 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:22.240 start making, you know, movies about it, documentary films, start 136 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:25.800 cashing in on the information big time. I'm talking millions 137 00:08:25.839 --> 00:08:29.439 and millions of dollars, and then just spreading this information 138 00:08:29.519 --> 00:08:34.039 out to communities, going to conferences, going speaking commitments, writing books, 139 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:37.399 and just this stuff blew up into its own type 140 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:38.159 of community. 141 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:38.519 Really. 142 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:42.480 And you know, however much came from Corey, or however 143 00:08:42.559 --> 00:08:44.679 much came from individuals before. 144 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:45.200 We're not sure. 145 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:47.720 He made up a lot of shit, though, he made 146 00:08:47.799 --> 00:08:50.360 up a whole lot of shit that people latched onto. 147 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:53.200 And that's the main point is he deceived a lot 148 00:08:53.240 --> 00:08:56.600 of people, and unfortunately, up until now, there were still 149 00:08:56.679 --> 00:08:59.440 a lot of people defending him all the way to 150 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:03.519 the end. So, yeah, this guy is not a good character, 151 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:05.440 and he's been on the scene for a while and 152 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:08.919 I'm just glad that finally this is finally coming out 153 00:09:08.919 --> 00:09:11.480 because I've been talking about him since since the beginning 154 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:13.120 and warning about his fraudulents and. 155 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:13.480 So have you. 156 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:18.759 So, yeah, that's a little background on who Corey Good was. 157 00:09:19.279 --> 00:09:23.399 Now you've done a few interviews with Jay Widener. How 158 00:09:23.399 --> 00:09:26.679 did all this start unfolding with the lawsuits and everything 159 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:28.080 that started to go wrong for him? 160 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:34.440 Well, as far as I know, Chris is, he actually 161 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:37.679 came on in the scene around two to three years 162 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:41.039 before he got involved with Guya and David Wilcock. He 163 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:46.240 was actually online doing interviews on certain people's channels and 164 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:48.919 on people's podcast and stuff like that. So he was 165 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:52.799 actually on the scene before he exploded onto Guya and 166 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:55.879 he was found by David Wilcock. He was actually a 167 00:09:55.919 --> 00:09:58.679 part of Project Avalon. I don't know if you remember 168 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:03.120 Project Avalon. It was offshoot of Project Him a Lot, Yeah, 169 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:06.440 and he was involved with that for many years before. 170 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:11.960 So he did take a lot of other people's work 171 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:14.919 and the things that they were talking about as well. 172 00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:17.679 But I don't want to use that really too much 173 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:20.519 as an excuse, because you know, people are kind of 174 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:25.600 using that as to defend that their story is real, right, 175 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:28.159 they're kind of like, you know, the other secret space 176 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:30.519 program assets are like, oh, yeah, he stole all of 177 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:35.120 this from me. He stole it. Well, it's all made up, right, 178 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:38.120 that's just my personal opinion, like there there isn't any 179 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:42.519 secret space program in the way that they talk about it, right, 180 00:10:42.559 --> 00:10:48.399 And he states in that deposition that he created a 181 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:51.360 lot of this stuff, and I don't know exactly, you 182 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:54.000 know where if he did steal the information, if he 183 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:55.960 got it from somewhere else, because that's just like a 184 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:57.759 lot of work and like a lot of research. I'm 185 00:10:57.799 --> 00:11:01.200 just basing it off, you know what he's And he 186 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:07.799 said in that deposition that nobody that dark Fleet, you know, 187 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:10.679 you know about dark Fleet, which is like this secret 188 00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:14.840 Nazi space crew in the Secret Space. 189 00:11:14.639 --> 00:11:18.159 Person another thing when which individuals like Lynn Casten wrote 190 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:21.320 about a long time ago. Though that's that is something 191 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:23.519 that he definitely took from others. 192 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:27.000 Well, he claims in that deposition that nobody talked about 193 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:27.559 it before him. 194 00:11:27.639 --> 00:11:29.919 Oh there's an old book that I've interviewed a gentleman 195 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:33.639 that wrote about the dark Fleet, the Nazi Reptilian German 196 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:35.639 dark Fleet, so he definitely stole that one. 197 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:36.320 That's one of them. 198 00:11:36.440 --> 00:11:36.639 I know. 199 00:11:36.679 --> 00:11:38.720 He also stole a lot of stuff from Ashiana Dean, 200 00:11:38.759 --> 00:11:41.399 and he just doesn't seem that creative to begin with, 201 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:44.240 to make up a lot of this shit. But then 202 00:11:44.279 --> 00:11:46.720 again he claims to have channeled it. That's a whole 203 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:49.279 other thing that I want to get into, but you're right, 204 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:51.559 the main thing is he is a fraud and he 205 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:54.080 made up so much of this stuff, whether he stole 206 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:56.799 it from somebody else or just grabbed it from thin air, 207 00:11:57.399 --> 00:12:00.720 it was bullshit. And he presented it as reaction. That's 208 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:02.559 the main thing that we're talking about. 209 00:12:02.360 --> 00:12:07.440 Here, exactly. He presented it as physical experiences, and then 210 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:09.879 you know, he comes out and says that none of 211 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:13.639 it's physical. In the deposition, the defense attorney asked him 212 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:18.559 if he's ever been the space, and he asked him physically, 213 00:12:19.799 --> 00:12:21.679 and then he was like, no, I don't believe. So 214 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:24.039 those are the exact words out of the mouth. He 215 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:27.399 said that he's never physically been in the space. You know, 216 00:12:27.919 --> 00:12:31.360 But as far as how it started, you know, this 217 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:34.360 is just from the information that I have of kind 218 00:12:34.440 --> 00:12:37.080 of how it happened. Now, you know, don't quote me 219 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:39.679 on this because there's a lot of different versions of 220 00:12:39.799 --> 00:12:43.480 different people, you know, talking about how it happened. But 221 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:47.639 apparently there was a split from Guaya with Wilcock and 222 00:12:47.960 --> 00:12:53.000 Corey good and they kind of left in an unhappy way, right, 223 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:58.919 And there were then people started calling them out, like 224 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:02.320 Jay Widner, there's a few other people that would make 225 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:06.200 you know, YouTube videos about that he's a fraud, that 226 00:13:06.240 --> 00:13:08.440 he's basically making all this up. And this is years 227 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:12.559 and years and years ago. So Corey Goode basically gets 228 00:13:12.799 --> 00:13:15.440 really upset with these people that are calling his story 229 00:13:15.720 --> 00:13:21.000 fate and not real. Right, So then he starts, you know, 230 00:13:21.879 --> 00:13:25.519 getting lawyers involved in sending people seats and letters, docking 231 00:13:25.559 --> 00:13:30.720 them online, you know, basically cyber stocking them. But then 232 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:33.600 he turns around and says that he's being cyberstocked. You know, 233 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:36.960 he's accusing other people of doing the exact same thing 234 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:41.080 that he's doing to people. Right, So then he goes 235 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:47.000 to you SETI Ranch I Believe with James Gilliland and 236 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:51.799 up in Washington and does this huge like three part 237 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:56.799 video with with James and which James is a completely 238 00:13:57.480 --> 00:14:01.320 other story. But he basically comes out and is like, Yeah, 239 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:03.679 I'm putting all these lawsuits together, and We're going to 240 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:07.039 expose all the frauds and all the fakes in the 241 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:11.960 community and and all this stuff, and uh, we're you know, 242 00:14:12.200 --> 00:14:14.759 we're gonna get to the bottom of all this. So 243 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:18.159 he basically did this to himself. He created all these lasses. 244 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:22.600 So he decided to sue his all of his business partners, 245 00:14:23.240 --> 00:14:28.440 uh suing Gaya, He's suing uh Jay Weidner, uh specifically 246 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:33.360 all this for like millions of dollars for defamation, right, 247 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:36.600 which defamation is a very difficult thing to prove. You 248 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:41.080 have to like prove that you know, you've actually lost 249 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:45.879 money and you know, lost followers and like all this 250 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:50.440 stuff in accordance to you know, people coming on and 251 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:52.679 seeing that you're your story. You have to prove the 252 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:57.919 truth exactly. And that is not what he did. He 253 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:00.600 actually proved the exact opposite and came out and said 254 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:02.879 that that it was all nonsense and all fake and 255 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:06.159 that he made all of it up. I'm very interested 256 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:13.679 to see the rest of the the defamation documents because 257 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:15.679 I think the rest of those are going to be 258 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:19.679 released at some point because they're they're public. It's a 259 00:15:19.679 --> 00:15:23.080 public record. Now. You know, his lawyer didn't go through 260 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:26.320 the right steps in order to get the protection of 261 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:29.679 you know, it not being released to the public. So 262 00:15:29.759 --> 00:15:33.360 now it's just all public record as of now. Now, 263 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:36.919 I don't know, it could change sometime in the future, 264 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:39.679 but it's already been released online. It's not going anywhere. 265 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:42.879 Everyone already has their hands on this and have has 266 00:15:42.919 --> 00:15:45.159 seen it. So I don't think there's going to be 267 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:48.759 any return for him. I think he's done. Like I 268 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:52.679 think that they he's destroyed himself. There's absolutely nothing more 269 00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:57.159 that he can do to revive his career. He's he's 270 00:15:57.480 --> 00:15:59.559 lost it. It's it's over for him. 271 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:01.639 I would definitely say so. 272 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:05.080 Now, when this first started coming to the surface about 273 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:07.240 some of the things that he was saying, I was 274 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:09.840 under the understanding that he might have said that he 275 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:12.720 channeled this information. Now I don't know if this is 276 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:15.440 like admissible in court or what if you can say 277 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:18.720 that you actually channeled something to make it seem that 278 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:20.919 it might be real in some aspects. 279 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:22.159 I don't know. Now. 280 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:25.440 I've had my own experiences with what some might consider 281 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:28.879 channeling with getting information from what I call spirit realms. 282 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:34.000 And I've had plenty of channeler guests and people that 283 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:39.039 do claim to have these abilities and gifts to channel 284 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:43.480 information from either other energies or to other realms or 285 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:49.039 even types of what they consider extraterrestrials or other entities. Now, 286 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:51.840 like I said, I've had my own experiences with this, 287 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:54.759 and most of the information that I receive is from 288 00:16:54.759 --> 00:16:56.120 my own personal development. 289 00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:58.879 I very rarely, you. 290 00:16:58.759 --> 00:17:03.480 Know, whether it's through meditation or psychedelic experiences. That is 291 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:07.599 where I receive most of my downloads and messages, and 292 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:12.440 they're very rarely about anything external, and it's mainly to 293 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:15.960 help me in my own personal growth, my own personal journey, 294 00:17:16.559 --> 00:17:19.720 and as such, with many other channelers that I know 295 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:21.680 that now, there are a few that do claim to 296 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:25.920 get information about the future, about what's happening around the world, 297 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:30.880 and unfortunately a lot of this information never comes to fruition. Now, 298 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:33.759 there are some that are very gifted, I do believe 299 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:37.480 in actually are getting information about external things and people 300 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:40.519 in places and events and stuff like that, but there 301 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:44.400 are also, unfortunately too many of those that are They 302 00:17:44.440 --> 00:17:47.400 may have this gift, they may be able to get 303 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:50.960 in touch with other energies or entities and receive information. 304 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:52.759 But first of all, how do they know that that 305 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:56.400 information is correct? How do they know that these entities 306 00:17:56.519 --> 00:17:59.960 have their best interest in mind? And how can we 307 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:04.279 prove that any of the information that they're telling them 308 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:08.720 would be true anyway, maybe they're being lied to. There's 309 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:11.279 just so many aspects to consider when it comes to 310 00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:14.599 what we think of as channeling and the information that 311 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:17.559 we're getting from the other side. And even with my 312 00:18:17.720 --> 00:18:20.759 information about myself, I take everything with a grain of salt, 313 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:23.240 and I do my own research into my own life 314 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:25.160 and my own past and things like that to see 315 00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:29.359 if the information is true to myself, does resonate with me, 316 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:33.079 and then I'll take it from there. But for unfortunately, 317 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:37.039 for many individuals, they've used channeling or even if it's 318 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:41.680 a slight gift of receiving information for their own personal gain, 319 00:18:42.119 --> 00:18:45.200 for either monetary gain or notoriety, or just to get 320 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:49.279 their name out there, and they unfortunately put out bs information. 321 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:52.119 Some of it may be mixed with truth, some of 322 00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:53.920 it makes me mixed with lies. But there's a lot 323 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:56.640 of people who have gotten very far in this. I 324 00:18:56.640 --> 00:18:59.079 hate saying this community because there's so many aspects of 325 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:01.880 this community and we're under attack right now and it's 326 00:19:01.920 --> 00:19:04.160 so muddled. But there's a lot of people that get 327 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:08.200 very far off the claims of channeled information in this community, 328 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:10.440 and they get very popular and some of them make 329 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:15.200 a lot very good living. And if Corey claims that 330 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:19.000 he channeled this information, that still doesn't make it any 331 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:23.559 less nefarious of what he was doing, because, for one, 332 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:26.119 you can never prove any. 333 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:26.680 Of this stuff. 334 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:30.000 And he, uh, well, unfortunately, I guess he came out 335 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:32.880 Courton said that he didn't handle it. So it's very 336 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:35.200 interesting what's going on with all this. There's a lot 337 00:19:35.240 --> 00:19:38.319 of people who followed in his footsteps that claim to 338 00:19:39.359 --> 00:19:42.000 have had the same experiences. They latched on to his 339 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:44.519 They said they've seen him there, They've gone to space 340 00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:48.000 and seen him and had experiences with him fighting aliens. 341 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:51.319 And there's, unfortunately, you know, a lot of people that 342 00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:54.680 either latched onto it because they truly believed it, or 343 00:19:54.839 --> 00:19:58.000 they were put up to it, or they're just crazy 344 00:19:58.000 --> 00:19:59.759 and want to get famous. I don't know, but there's 345 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:01.000 a lot aspects of this. 346 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:04.279 I think it's a little bit of all the things 347 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:07.960 that you just said I mean the whole channeling thing. 348 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:09.920 I mean, here's the thing with it. If he did 349 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:12.640 end up channeling it, which that was the information that 350 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:16.640 I got before any of this went down, right, I 351 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:20.799 got that from my whistleblower, that he channeled all of 352 00:20:20.799 --> 00:20:27.400 the information, right, And but from watching the deposition, he 353 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:31.279 doesn't mention anything about channeling. He literally says that he 354 00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:35.079 created all of it, that he made all of it up. Now, 355 00:20:35.160 --> 00:20:38.200 if there's another video that surfaces from the deposition that 356 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:40.960 says that he channeled it, there still doesn't really matter. 357 00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:42.920 It makes me wonder if he's saying that just so 358 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:45.319 he can maybe hold on to the hopes that he 359 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:48.799 could have some kind of monetary gain from this somehow, 360 00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:51.720 if he claims it as his own intellectual property, I 361 00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:53.759 don't know either way. It's sick and he doesn't seem 362 00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:55.759 that smart, So I don't know what he's trying to do. 363 00:20:57.319 --> 00:21:01.160 Yeah, And if he does say that he channeled it, 364 00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:03.359 it doesn't make any sense either, because he's never claimed 365 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:06.839 to be a channeler. He never said from the beginning 366 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:09.440 that he was any kind of channeler, right, So it 367 00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:12.359 doesn't make any sense even if he claims that he 368 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:15.839 did channel it. That doesn't line up with all the 369 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:18.640 things that he said in the past. Right. If you 370 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:20.240 would have came out it from the very beginning and 371 00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:22.480 been like, hey, I'm a channeler. I've channeled all this information, 372 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:25.599 none of this would be happening, right because really nobody 373 00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:27.519 would care because it would be like, Okay, well he 374 00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:30.599 channeled it. There's a billion other channelers out there, you know. 375 00:21:31.119 --> 00:21:33.319 We can either take his information or we can leave 376 00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:36.839 his information, right, doesn't really matter. But the thing is 377 00:21:36.839 --> 00:21:40.960 is he was presenting them all of his experiences as physical, 378 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:46.319 three D experiences. He went to space and a three 379 00:21:46.400 --> 00:21:49.759 D body, that he was talking to these entities physically. 380 00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:53.119 That it's not channeled. It's not a consciousness thing, it's 381 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:59.160 not an astral thing. It's one physical right, And that's 382 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:02.559 where the problem comes in with the whole channeling aspect. Yeah, 383 00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:04.359 if you want to say that it's that it's channeled 384 00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:10.359 information seven eight years later, that doesn't work for me anyway, 385 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:12.359 and it shouldn't work for anybody else. Now, if you've 386 00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:15.279 claimed to be a channeler this entire time, then people 387 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:18.640 already know that you're a channeler, and more than likely 388 00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:23.240 the information that you're presenting is channeled information. Right. It's 389 00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:28.039 it's exactly like that. It's like it's like if I 390 00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:30.279 were to, you know, create a business, and then I 391 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:32.799 was telling you one thing, but on the other opposite end, 392 00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:37.599 I'm doing something completely different. Right, It's exactly that. If 393 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:40.160 he says that it was channeling from the very beginning, 394 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:41.279 then there's not a problem. 395 00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:42.079 Right. 396 00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:45.559 But if eight years later he all of a sudden 397 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:48.599 the size that it is channeling, that's an issue. And 398 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:50.240 that's a problem to me and it should be a 399 00:22:50.279 --> 00:22:54.640 problem to anybody listening. Now, again, I haven't seen I've 400 00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:57.279 watched the deposit the only video that I can get 401 00:22:57.279 --> 00:23:00.440 my hands on of the deposition that you know that 402 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:02.000 I can get a hold of, which is the third 403 00:23:02.079 --> 00:23:06.680 part of the sixth part six hour Deposition interview. And 404 00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:10.920 he doesn't mention anything about channeling. Now, he mentions like meditation, 405 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:16.160 that the being that he that he talks to you 406 00:23:16.279 --> 00:23:19.599 all the time a shar that's from inner Earth. He 407 00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:23.079 says that that is a meditation practice that he sits 408 00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:24.720 in his living room and he meditates and then he 409 00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:28.039 connects to this Ashar being. But it's not a physical being. 410 00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:31.880 But he's been leading everyone to believe this entire time 411 00:23:31.920 --> 00:23:35.200 there's a physical being. You know, this is the problem. 412 00:23:35.559 --> 00:23:39.240 And then he's saying that he created the twenty and 413 00:23:39.319 --> 00:23:41.880 back program, that nobody was talking about a twenty in 414 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:45.519 back program until he came on the scene. Right, Well, 415 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:47.720 all this is one percent of what he's talking about. 416 00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:52.160 And like what he's saying in this deposition, and you 417 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:54.920 know it's he's saying everything that that people has been 418 00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:58.119 saying for a really long time about him, that he's 419 00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:02.240 that he's making it up. And he didn't want this video, 420 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:06.160 this deposition getting out. He didn't want it going anywhere, 421 00:24:06.160 --> 00:24:10.440 but his lawyer screwed up and it didn't file the 422 00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:13.079 right paperwork to make the protection order to be able 423 00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:17.920 to keep the documents closed to the public, and now 424 00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:21.960 it's become a public case and on public record, and 425 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:23.599 there's nothing he can do about it now. 426 00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:26.200 Now, I want to get your thoughts on this. 427 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:29.920 There are not necessarily people that are defending him, but 428 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:32.480 there are people that are coming out now and questioning 429 00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:37.160 and posing the question, well, maybe Corey was part of 430 00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:41.319 some sort of mind control program to put them out 431 00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:45.480 there and discount this whole community in the way that 432 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:49.079 he did that he might have been a co intel 433 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:51.359 pro that he might have been part of something else 434 00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:54.240 since it was Willcock. Me personally, I don't think he 435 00:24:54.319 --> 00:24:56.440 was that smart. I think that he was just an 436 00:24:56.480 --> 00:25:01.119 opportunist that got a hold of this information somehow and 437 00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:03.079 you know, got lucky and presented it. 438 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:04.319 But what do you think. 439 00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:10.640 I think that's exactly what happened, and he seeing a 440 00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:13.359 huge opportunity to make a lot of money, because that's 441 00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:15.440 also what he talks about in the deposition that he 442 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:20.319 made close to a million dollars off of his very 443 00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:23.759 first ascension course that he didn't even write, he didn't 444 00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:27.400 even create that course, that he made close to a 445 00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:31.559 million dollars off of, right, And I think that that's 446 00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:37.279 exactly what happened. I think that he was lonely, he 447 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:39.079 was trying to find a way to make money. He 448 00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:42.359 was watching all these people online, uh, talking about these 449 00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:46.519 these stories, and then he came up and created his own. 450 00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:51.160 And you know, I've been I've been talking to to 451 00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:55.039 Shane a lot, uh, you know, Shane Sadora, and he 452 00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:59.279 was he was telling me that he had information over 453 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:02.440 seven years ago. I don't know if I should be 454 00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:03.720 seeing this or not, But I'm just going to go 455 00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:08.680 and say it that he had information of recording of 456 00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:11.960 Corey Good and his wife sitting in their living room, 457 00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:18.240 creating this entire story of him right in his secret 458 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.920 space program missions, fighting aliens and then being adrigress back 459 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:26.359 in time twenty years to the original point that you 460 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:30.599 know that he was taking. You know, so it's it's 461 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:34.359 been a long time in the making, and he's I 462 00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:36.839 think that's exactly what happened, exactly what you said, that 463 00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:39.920 he saw an opportunity and he took it, and then 464 00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:45.039 everybody else followed in his footsteps afterwards, And they can 465 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:47.440 say that they didn't, right, They can say, oh, well, 466 00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:49.759 I never listened to Corey Good, I didn't listen to 467 00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:51.680 any of his information. I knew that he was lying 468 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:55.680 the entire time or whatever. Well, maybe you didn't directly, 469 00:26:55.960 --> 00:27:01.319 but inadvertently you followed in his footsteps, right, Because information 470 00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:04.240 has passed along like that, Even if you're not listening 471 00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:08.640 to him directly, somebody else that's involved is definitely listening 472 00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:11.720 to him, and then they're disseminated that information and then 473 00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:14.799 you know, it doesn't matter who you're getting it from. 474 00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.559 It all kind of links back to Corey good in 475 00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:23.160 his in his show, I mean, whether you like it 476 00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:25.839 or not, whether any whether anybody thinks it was a 477 00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:29.079 huge show. It made Guya millions of dollars. 478 00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:30.680 It was a. 479 00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:37.880 Gigantic, huge show that was ridiculously popular in the community, 480 00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:44.160 but it was exaggerated, fake, made up stories, and then 481 00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:47.480 everybody just jumped on the bandwagon. And I think the 482 00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:50.920 reason that everybody jumped on the bandwagon after that was 483 00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:56.000 because they also saw an opportunity. They're like, damn, Corey 484 00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:59.440 Goods making all this money, He's got a huge Guya show, 485 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:04.079 and you know, this is an opportunity for me to 486 00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:09.039 try and find and create my story, so hopefully that 487 00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:11.519 I can become popular too and make a lot of 488 00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:16.119 money and you know, have my own show on the topic. 489 00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:20.599 Yeah, man, I I that's that's what I think happened exactly. 490 00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:22.920 Now I want to I want to talk about what 491 00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:25.519 you were just mentioning the others that jumped on the 492 00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:30.200 bag vandwagon because they they saw an opportunity for notoriety 493 00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:31.160 or fame or whatever. 494 00:28:32.359 --> 00:28:32.839 I see that. 495 00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:35.440 I see that a lot of individuals did that. Now 496 00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:39.119 there are others that I'm very confused about in this community, 497 00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:45.079 others that supported good but seem to have a genuine 498 00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:49.119 aspect about their story, a genuine aspect about themselves, and 499 00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:52.079 didn't seem to be doing this for any other reasons. 500 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:54.000 Now I could have misread these people. 501 00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:56.160 It happens. 502 00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:58.920 But you know, there are some still some people that 503 00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:02.319 are not necessarily defending him, but are claiming to be 504 00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:06.759 in this secret space program. Uh now, whatever that means 505 00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:09.039 to them. I've had You've had a few of these 506 00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:11.720 individuals on. I've had a few of these individuals on, 507 00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:14.079 and for me, it's all about finding out what the 508 00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:17.000 hell's going on in reality. You know, whether they're making 509 00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:18.680 it up. I want to know if they if they're 510 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:20.839 not making it up, I want to know what's really happening. 511 00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:24.240 And that's the whole reason it's It's about open discussion 512 00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:27.720 and getting tid's bits of truth out there. And you know, 513 00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:31.400 for a very long time, I have been very wary 514 00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:35.079 about this particular topic, and I always do little disclaimers 515 00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:39.200 in my introductions whenever I'm interviewing super soldiers, saying, you know, 516 00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:43.559 this is a kind of controversial topic. You the audience, 517 00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:45.799 it is up to you to decide and I am 518 00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:48.759 just here to present this individual story and nothing more. 519 00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:49.599 Uh. 520 00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:51.440 But I've, like I said, I've had a few on 521 00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:55.799 and there were there were some that really were compelling 522 00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:56.920 to me in a way. 523 00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.359 That they believed their own story. 524 00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:03.039 That they they made me believe that they believe their story, 525 00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:05.359 that they really believed that they were having these off 526 00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:08.880 planet adventures and gone for this amount of time and 527 00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:12.200 having sex with aliens and gun battles and all this 528 00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:17.960 fantastical stuff, that they truly believe this. But now looking back, 529 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:20.680 it's hard to tell. I don't know. Do you think 530 00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:23.720 that there's some grand delusion going on? Do you think 531 00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:27.039 that some of these people are actually part of nefarious 532 00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:30.400 government programs that might be in planning. I know we 533 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.599 talked about this a few times. I think it could 534 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:36.039 go either way, because there are some people that genuinely, 535 00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:39.200 I believe still genuinely believe their story. And that's what 536 00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:41.519 I want to get behind. Why do they believe this? 537 00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.160 What happened to them to make them truly believe that 538 00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:46.960 this is a real phenomenon. 539 00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:52.759 That's a really loaded question, and that's what I've really 540 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:55.920 been trying to dig into for the past eight months now, 541 00:30:56.200 --> 00:31:00.920 is figuring out the truth behind this, right and digging 542 00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:04.359 to the bottom of it. Is it MK ultra, right, 543 00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:10.799 is it some kind of holographic simulation? You know, what 544 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:15.000 part of this story is real and what part of 545 00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:18.559 it is fake? And I've been doing a lot of 546 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:24.559 research into that and studying the mk Ultra programs and 547 00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:27.839 going over the declassified mk Ultra documents, going over the 548 00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:34.359 Stargate declassified documents, interviewing people that military personnel that were 549 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:39.240 actually involved in the psychic and PSI ESP remote viewing 550 00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:44.000 research that the government, the DA and Army Intelligence were 551 00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:49.599 actually studying, you know, and SRI and the CIA, right, 552 00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:54.079 because they were actually really studying this kind of psychic 553 00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:58.920 remote viewing ESP phenomenon. Now, whether people want to believe 554 00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:03.160 that psychic's remote viewing and ESP is actually real or not, 555 00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:08.839 it doesn't matter. The government was for a fact studying 556 00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:12.559 it and they were getting really you know, deep into it. 557 00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:19.039 The program, the DIA's Army Intelligence Stargate project lasted for 558 00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:23.440 almost twenty years. They were funding a project to study psychickes, 559 00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:28.200 ESP and remote viewers. So what I think is going on? 560 00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:30.799 And I think I mentioned this last time that you know, 561 00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:34.039 I was on your show. Is that the secret space 562 00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:36.759 program and all of these stories and all these assets 563 00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:39.839 and these people that are talking about these fantastical stories 564 00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:44.759 is a cover for something very real that's going on 565 00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:48.160 because they pick and choose the things that they want 566 00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:51.319 to talk about. Right, They'll throw in the mk Ultra 567 00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:54.519 in there in the beginning, but then they just brush 568 00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:57.440 over it and be like, oh yeah, right after the 569 00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:00.400 mk Ultra, I was taken from a jump room in 570 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:03.599 New York and California directly to Mars to fight aliens 571 00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:05.759 with highly advanced technology. And then I was Adri Gruss 572 00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:07.359 back twenty years and that's how I got out of 573 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:10.400 the mk a Ultra programs. It's not that simple, people. 574 00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:13.359 You just don't get out of an actual government funded 575 00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:16.519 MK ULTRA mind control program like that. Right, if you 576 00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:19.759 talk to real people that were involved in mk ultra 577 00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:25.359 governmental programs, like Kathy O'Brien I talked about her last 578 00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:27.839 time you've had her on your show. You know, like 579 00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:32.160 people like that that have legitimately been through mind control 580 00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:36.519 governmental programs, you just don't get out of that. Right. 581 00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:41.440 There has to be a scenario or something very special 582 00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:44.640 that happens in order for you to get out of that, right, 583 00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:47.160 It's not just a snap of the fingers. They're not 584 00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:50.119 just going to let you go. You know, they mind 585 00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:52.480 controlled you, They mind fractured you to do all of 586 00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:56.119 these different things within the government. Right, They're not just 587 00:33:56.160 --> 00:33:58.119 gonna let you go. Why in the world would they 588 00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:02.200 ever let you go. They're going to kill you, right 589 00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:04.440 because they're not going to take a chance on you 590 00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:08.079 actually exposing in any of their secrets. Right. So, I 591 00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:12.199 think that the secret Space program stuff that people that 592 00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:14.239 the assets and the super soldiers and the people that 593 00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:17.599 are talking about are either an inserted memory or it's 594 00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:22.119 a MK ultra technique that's done to depattern the mind 595 00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:24.519 to make them believe. Because with MK ultra, dude, you 596 00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:27.679 can make people believe whatever you want them to believe. 597 00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:30.800 You can make them believe that dinosaurs are still roaming 598 00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:32.480 around on the earth if you if you want to 599 00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:36.559 make them believe that. Right, there's processes to the MP culture. 600 00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:40.000 It's a deepatterning process that removes any logical thinking or 601 00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:42.599 critical thinking within the mind of the person that you're 602 00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.760 MK altering. Right, And then you do this technique it's 603 00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:51.320 called psychic driving, which is a repeated audio message or 604 00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:56.800 a TV screen with a message on it that's looped, right, 605 00:34:57.000 --> 00:34:59.079 and you can put whatever you want on that audio 606 00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:02.079 message or on that TV screen to make the subject 607 00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:05.320 believe whatever you want them to believe. And then whenever 608 00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:08.960 you've mind fractured their consciousness and split their personality and 609 00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:14.159 created this subcategory of consciousness within their brain, that message 610 00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:17.400 trickles down into the brain. That's what they're remembering. Right. 611 00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:20.599 All these people talk about, you know, the mind fracturing process. 612 00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:25.679 They've been split consciously several times, like they all claim 613 00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:31.639 that they have, you know, fifty to sixty altars or whatever. Right, 614 00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:36.599 all that is is the mind has been fractured. There's 615 00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:40.000 been a certain message or a certain idea or a 616 00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:43.400 certain thought that's been inserted into that alter and then 617 00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:47.039 there's a bleed through and they're remembering part of that 618 00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:53.360 scenario that they were programmed to believe. And that's created 619 00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:57.800 the whole confusion behind it, right, And that's why people 620 00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:00.760 are believing that they're actually a part of a secret 621 00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:05.400 space program force fighting aliens when it's not real. It's 622 00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:10.559 not true. They planted with those thoughts and those ideas 623 00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:15.440 and those beliefs and yeah, I do believe that it's 624 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:20.360 a huge operation to cover up real things that are 625 00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:24.280 happening on the Earth, and they've done an amazing job 626 00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:30.079 at it. Right, nobody wants to talk about real, rudimentary, 627 00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:36.360 secret space program stuff like the actual craft that we've 628 00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:41.159 developed and that we've engineered and that we've created on 629 00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:45.239 our own, or what actually might be happening in space. 630 00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:50.280 They want the exaggerated, fairy tale bullshit stee that isn't 631 00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:54.400 provable at all. Right, it's taking everything away from the 632 00:36:54.840 --> 00:37:01.639 real things that are happening in conjunction for some extravagant 633 00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:05.559 space opera Blue Chicken story. 634 00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:09.159 Yeah, now I want to throw this possibility out there. 635 00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:13.039 Like I said earlier, I've had my own what I 636 00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:17.599 consider actual experiences. I've had contact experiences with not only 637 00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:21.599 would I consider my spirit guides, but other types of entities. 638 00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:26.760 And in just recently I have I go on vision 639 00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:28.000 what I call vision quests. 640 00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:30.239 I use large doses of. 641 00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:34.360 Magic mushrooms, and there are times when I actually exit 642 00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:39.880 my body and experience what I perceive to be an 643 00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:44.920 actual experience in a different realm where I actually encounter intelligences. 644 00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:47.960 And like I said, very Rarely do I get information 645 00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:50.800 about things other than myself, But there have been times 646 00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:55.079 where I have encountered what I consider intelligences that aren't 647 00:37:55.159 --> 00:38:00.280 necessarily my direct consciousness that has given me information about things. Now, 648 00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:03.400 it's never been they've never taken me on space battles 649 00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:07.159 or gone to fight aliens or anything crazy likes that's 650 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:10.199 being claimed in the Secret Space program. But through my 651 00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:12.920 own experiences, I've come to a belief that there are 652 00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:16.559 different realities, and there are different realms out there, and 653 00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:19.920 we can indeed access them. And there are one hundred 654 00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:22.679 percent different intelligences and entities, whether you want to call 655 00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:26.320 them angels or extraterrestrials or interdimensional beings are they're out 656 00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:28.360 there and we can communicate with them, and I have, 657 00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:34.000 and I'm wondering that could this be not only, you know, 658 00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:38.440 an experiment on mind control, but could they possibly be 659 00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:43.000 accessing these other realms via psychedelics, via some of the 660 00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:47.000 techniques that they've used in mind control, And maybe it's 661 00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:50.119 not all made up or in planeted memories. Maybe they 662 00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:56.000 are having actual astral experiences, not off planet, but within themselves, 663 00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:58.960 because I believe that that's where the universe really is. 664 00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:01.079 I believe that they try to get us to look 665 00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:04.079 into space and understand what's out there in the universe 666 00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:06.119 and aliens and all these things that they've been putting 667 00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:09.480 in our consciousness. But the real exploration of the universe 668 00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:12.440 and everything in our consciousness, which is connected to everything, 669 00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:16.039 is by going in within ourselves, and by that we 670 00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:19.960 can explore other realms the universe, possibly other planets. I 671 00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:21.760 don't know for sure, but I know that there is 672 00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:25.599 something by going within ourselves we can access something that 673 00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:30.320 is not within our understood reality. And I'm wondering if 674 00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:33.239 this is what could possibly be happening. Maybe not in 675 00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:35.960 all the experiments, maybe not in any of them, but 676 00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:39.559 I think that in some people's genuine experiences where they're 677 00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:43.880 having contact, where they're speaking with other intelligences, that they 678 00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:47.679 are accessing these other realms. And it's not all you know, 679 00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:51.360 government mind control. That people are naturally having these experiences 680 00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.639 like myself, but that the government could be involved on 681 00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:59.920 some level to maybe steer the you know, conspiracy community 682 00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:04.239 consciousness in a certain direction by throwing these people into 683 00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:08.719 different experiences, different realms, or maybe they're, like you said, 684 00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:12.920 just implanting these false memories. There's it's all possibilities for me. 685 00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:20.639 And see the difference between you and and Corey Good 686 00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:23.880 on this is that you have admitted from the very 687 00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:32.159 beginning that your experiences have been due to vision quests. Right, yeah, 688 00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:35.400 You've claimed that from the very beginning, right, So I 689 00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:40.280 can't be like, oh yeah, Chris was saying that this 690 00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:44.320 whole thing was physical and you was, you know, doing 691 00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:46.519 it on his own and and all that. No, we 692 00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:49.199 we everyone that's listened to your show, you know, me 693 00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:52.360 talking to you and me listening to you, like, we 694 00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:56.320 know that it was a vision quest, right. That's the 695 00:40:56.519 --> 00:41:01.599 that's the difference here. You were never claiming these experiences 696 00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:07.960 were real, that they were you know, physical real experiences. 697 00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:12.119 There were inner experiences, right, that's for the the issue 698 00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:12.840 and the problem. 699 00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:16.320 Oh yeah, Well, discounting Corey good I'm talking about government 700 00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:20.519 projects people that are having these experiences. Could they be 701 00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:25.559 could they have knowledge of other realms and maybe they're 702 00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:29.239 using these people to, I don't know, maybe have some 703 00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:32.320 kind of black projects done in these other realms to 704 00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:35.480 interact with these entities for certain reasons. And that is 705 00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:38.559 the actual memories that they're having or you know that 706 00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:40.480 it's just a possibility to me, I don't know. 707 00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:41.599 I want to know what you think about that. 708 00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:46.280 Yeah, that's an interesting concept, and I think that there 709 00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:50.440 there are some validity to that because we do know 710 00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:55.000 that the government was using psychedelics such as LSD and 711 00:41:55.119 --> 00:42:00.159 mushrooms in their experimentation, and then you know, they some 712 00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:03.679 of them might not because I don't believe that that 713 00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:09.079 all of them were involved in a direct MK ultra program. 714 00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:13.159 So it could be like you're saying that they took 715 00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:18.119 some kind of psychedelic substance or mushrooms or LSD or 716 00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:22.039 something on their own and then they had you know, 717 00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:28.159 these experiences, right, But again, I don't believe that that 718 00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:33.000 makes the experience real, right, it makes the experience real 719 00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:36.159 to you, right, And I think that's where the you know, 720 00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:40.559 the confusion comes from, because I believe that everybody has 721 00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:45.000 their own, you know, personal journey. Right. If you took 722 00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:47.199 mushrooms and then I took mushrooms, I'm going to have 723 00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:50.599 a completely different experience than the experience that you're going 724 00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:54.639 to have, right, And you can't cote your entire experience 725 00:42:55.599 --> 00:43:00.400 on mushrooms because it's your personal journey for everybody, right, 726 00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:06.480 it's your own personal, you know, experience, right. You can't 727 00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:09.960 come out and say, oh, well, you know I had this, uh, 728 00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:15.159 this this journey, this you know this this plant medicine journey, 729 00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:18.800 and this is the way things are. No, that's a 730 00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:23.199 that's an inner personal journey, and now you can speak 731 00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:25.440 about it personally like you have. I don't think you've 732 00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:28.719 ever claimed before that this is the way that the 733 00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:31.840 things are, and everyone should. You know, take everything that 734 00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:34.480 I'm saying for one hundred percent fact. You're just presenting 735 00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:38.400 the information, right, You're presenting your experience, right, You're not 736 00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:43.039 claiming that it's one hundred percent factor that is, you know, 737 00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:45.119 one hundred percent real. I don't know if I'm you know, 738 00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:50.159 explaining that in the exact best way, but I think 739 00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:53.760 that it's an if. If these people are, which I 740 00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:55.440 do think that a lot of them are, I think 741 00:43:55.480 --> 00:44:02.760 a lot of them are doing drugs of all different kinds, right, 742 00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:07.519 not just not just psychedelic mushrooms, but some of them 743 00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:13.800 seem to be in a drug induced psychosis, which nobody 744 00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:16.480 talks about. You know, nobody wants to mention, you know, 745 00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:23.679 harder drugs like you know, methamphetamine and adderall and things 746 00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:28.679 that will legitimately put you into a psychosis and you'll 747 00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:32.199 be seeing things that aren't really there and think that 748 00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:35.880 the CIA has you know, tapped your house and that 749 00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:38.639 they're listening to you through the walls and through your 750 00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:42.199 technology and like and all that stuff and hitting you 751 00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:45.800 with V two K. I think that to a degree, 752 00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:53.519 psychedelics open us up on a on a really deep level, 753 00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:59.880 and if you're not protected in that way, then neg 754 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:05.400 negative things can infiltrate into your mind. Right. They can 755 00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:08.480 hit you with V two and make you believe that 756 00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:12.719 you're taking to an entity from outer space when you're 757 00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:17.360 on a psychedelic substance. V twok is a very real 758 00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:23.159 government technology that can implemant thoughts, ideas and legitimately have 759 00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:26.920 a conversation with you in your head. 760 00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:27.440 Right. 761 00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:30.960 The can make you believe that it's an entity or 762 00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:34.440 some kind of you know, thing from outside of yourself, 763 00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:38.119 which it is. But it's the government, and it's a CIA, 764 00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:42.199 it's a THEIA, it's an essay, it's one of these 765 00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:46.599 three letter organizations that's doing this. So I do take 766 00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:50.719 into account, and it's you know, a high possibility that 767 00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:57.079 some stuff has been a psychedelic experience, and they're coming 768 00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.960 back and passing it off as now. I don't have 769 00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:03.880 a problem with people using psychedelics. You just have to 770 00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:07.159 tell people that you're using psychedelics like you are. 771 00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:10.760 And then that gives people the right information frame of 772 00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:11.960 reference for what's going on. 773 00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:16.000 Yes, it does seem that all these truths are coming 774 00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:20.320 out right now, and it's it's filtering into something that 775 00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:23.480 we are better understanding as we go. 776 00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:24.000 Right. 777 00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:29.679 Absolutely, I agree with that one hundred percent. And you know, 778 00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:33.199 whenever you dig down deep into a lot of these topics, 779 00:46:33.320 --> 00:46:37.360 especially you know, evolving the Secret Space Program and UFOs 780 00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:42.239 and aliens and eats, it's always something much further down 781 00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:47.400 to earth. I think that a majority of this stuff 782 00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:52.119 has been happening by our hand, and it's human intelligence 783 00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:58.320 behind a good ninety to ninety five percent of it, 784 00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:02.199 and the rest of it has been exaggerated to a 785 00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:06.920 degree that it's very difficult to figure out the truth, 786 00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:11.920 you know, like you really have to do some introspection 787 00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:17.519 on the things that you've previously believed. It's like an 788 00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:22.079 awakening within an awakening. Right. You get all this information 789 00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:26.480 from you know, the alternative community, the conspiracy community, the 790 00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:32.119 UFO community, and then you realize that that stuff was 791 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:37.119 bullshit nonsense too, just like the mainstream media feeding us 792 00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:39.840 all this propaganda and all these lies and covering up 793 00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:43.119 all this stuff. Right, it's a cover up within a 794 00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:47.119 cover up is really what's happening. And then you know, 795 00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:49.840 when people think that they're getting the real information and 796 00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:52.320 the true information from alternative sources, and then they turn 797 00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:54.280 around and realize that all these people are just about 798 00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:58.159 making money and being famous in this community, and that 799 00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:02.519 they're making up a large percentage of their story. That's 800 00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:08.119 like a people don't want to accept that. It's exactly 801 00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:11.159 like being in the mainstream and then starting to veer 802 00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:14.480 a little bit into the alternative scene. Right, people around 803 00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:16.760 you that were a part of the mainstream is going 804 00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:20.039 to be like, oh, wow, you're crazy. You know you're wild. 805 00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:25.920 I just watched that documentary the other day, Shadowland, that 806 00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:30.679 came out on Peacock, and I just wanted to watch 807 00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:32.760 it to see, you know, what they were talking about, 808 00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:35.559 and you know what they were saying, and they make 809 00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:40.559 conspiracy theorists look like crazy people basically that they're out 810 00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:45.199 of their mind, right, And but that's just one level 811 00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:48.000 of it. Whenever you get into the community and then 812 00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:53.480 you realize that half that stuff is also bullshit, then 813 00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:57.599 it's like another layer of the onion that's being peeled back. 814 00:48:57.639 --> 00:48:59.880 And that's very difficult for people to accept because they 815 00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:03.320 want to take everybody in this community an alternative community, 816 00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:06.559 a conspiracy community, in the UFO community, as that they're 817 00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:13.480 telling the truth, that they're providing real, actual information, when 818 00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:17.840 a lot of it is not real actual information is 819 00:49:18.199 --> 00:49:20.440 made up nonsense. 820 00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:24.280 Yeah, it's it's become difficult the past few years, and 821 00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:30.719 I've come to realize that what probably is the truth lies. 822 00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:32.199 More in the middle than anything. 823 00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:35.559 That there are extremes on both sides that are being 824 00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:39.719 presented that people that they want Pete to follow these 825 00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:43.199 extreme crazy rabbit holes and get lost in there. It's 826 00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:45.920 where they don't know what the truth is about a 827 00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:48.079 certain thing. They've gone so far off the deep end, 828 00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:51.320 or so far into their research about one certain thing 829 00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:53.280 that they're lost in there and they can't see a 830 00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:56.119 bigger picture. But when you step back and look at 831 00:49:56.159 --> 00:49:59.079 the bigger picture of every thing, the truth usually lies 832 00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:02.480 somewhere in between those extremes that are being presented. 833 00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:04.199 And I think you're right. 834 00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:07.239 I think a lot of what we're seeing being presented 835 00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:11.559 as aliens and UFOs is us. I think that there 836 00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:14.159 have been a lot of opportunists that have come out 837 00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:16.960 in the past few years in this community, but I 838 00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:19.119 think that there are also a lot of genuine people 839 00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:21.320 in this community. I think there are people who have 840 00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:25.559 had genuine experiences with or without the help of psychedelics 841 00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:28.320 or other drugs. That I think that people that have 842 00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:33.559 had very high strange encounters with beings and creatures and 843 00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:36.679 what you might consider as aliens. You know, I'm not 844 00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:39.320 sure about the whole space travel thing that's to be 845 00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:44.559 to be talked about later. It's such a muddled discussion there. 846 00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:49.840 But when it comes to the existence of other life 847 00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:53.639 and other realms and people's experiences with them, I've also 848 00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:57.199 come to realize that this is such a personal type 849 00:50:57.199 --> 00:51:01.039 of phenomenon that most people aren't having group experiences with 850 00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:04.360 this stuff. They're not being taken in tour buses on 851 00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:07.800 tours of the universe with aliens, and they're not having, 852 00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:11.000 you know, group ghostly experiences usually most of the time, 853 00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:13.719 unless you're part of some kind of elite cult or 854 00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:16.079 something that knows how to sum and demons. But that's 855 00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:19.400 a different story again now. But most people have these 856 00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:23.199 experiences as personal experiences for personal growth, and some of 857 00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:28.119 them have very terrifying experiences with very unexplained things and 858 00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:33.039 no association with maybe black projects or governments or mind controls. So, 859 00:51:33.679 --> 00:51:35.599 like I said, I think the truth always lies in 860 00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:39.199 the middle. There are some very unexplained things that happen 861 00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:43.199 in our reality that I think our government black projects 862 00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:46.480 are trying to understand in certain ways. I think a 863 00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:48.960 lot of the research that goes on at places like 864 00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:53.599 Skinwalker Ranch gives proof to that that they don't understand 865 00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:55.639 what's really going on. And from what I've heard from 866 00:51:55.639 --> 00:51:58.880 one of my guests recently that is on a ranch 867 00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:03.480 that has high strange encounters and experiences like that, that 868 00:52:03.559 --> 00:52:07.039 they say that they've had government officials attempt to go 869 00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:10.320 out and understand what's going on there, and every time, 870 00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:14.440 the phenomenon, whatever it is, whether it's an electromagnetic energy, 871 00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:17.480 whether it's a ghost or a trickster type of entity, 872 00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:22.000 is always ten steps ahead of these three letter agencies 873 00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:26.199 or black projects or military or government groups trying to 874 00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:29.440 come in and understand it. That this phenomenon is always 875 00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:33.639 ahead of it and always confuses these individuals more than 876 00:52:33.639 --> 00:52:37.119 it helps them understand anything. And it seems that that 877 00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:41.320 is intentional, that it doesn't want us to ever understand 878 00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:44.159 what is going on. And that's one of the things 879 00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:47.039 that I've actually come to love about paranormal and this 880 00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:50.320 phenomenon is that it is a trickster and it doesn't 881 00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:52.800 really it wants us to figure it out on our own, 882 00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:55.400 and it's never going to present itself outright to where 883 00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:57.199 it's like, hey, this is what I am and this 884 00:52:57.280 --> 00:52:58.079 is what's going on. 885 00:52:58.559 --> 00:52:58.760 You know. 886 00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:01.280 It kind of wants us our arguing and having these 887 00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:05.360 discussions and trying to figure out what this is behind reality. 888 00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:08.280 And I get the feeling that it doesn't want the 889 00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:12.079 wrong side to figure it out first, and it plays 890 00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:14.760 games with them. And that's just my personal thoughts on that. 891 00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:19.719 Yeah, it's just whenever people like to blink at the 892 00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:23.599 entire phenomenon with one thing, right, It's like, if you 893 00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:31.320 take a Bigfoot researcher to skin Walker Ranch, he'll probably 894 00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:34.800 come out and say that it's bigfoot, Right. If you 895 00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:38.840 take a UFO researcher the skin Walker Ranch, they'll tell 896 00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:41.360 you that it's UFOs and aliens. If you take a 897 00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:45.000 paranormal investigator the skin Walker Ranch, they'll tell you that 898 00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:49.480 it's paranormal in ghosts. Right, they're trying to blink at 899 00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:52.800 the entire phenomenon under one banner, and that's really been 900 00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:56.320 trying to stay for the while now on my show, 901 00:53:56.440 --> 00:54:03.519 is that we've been conditioned to believe that it's aliens 902 00:54:03.519 --> 00:54:09.960 and extraterrestrials when no evidence points to it ever being 903 00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:16.840 aliens or extraterrestrials. There's more evidence that it's out knowledgy 904 00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:23.480 from our governments and that they're back engineered beings that 905 00:54:23.719 --> 00:54:28.320 they've created, that they've created the gray species that are 906 00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:36.480 a robotic, half organic half inorganic species that they've that 907 00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:40.320 we've created on this planet to go out and abduct people, 908 00:54:41.239 --> 00:54:44.760 you know, as far as the so that they don't 909 00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:47.400 have to take responsibility, so it's not the military that 910 00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:50.119 people don't see that. It's the military and people in 911 00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:55.280 the military uniform they're seeing these genetically altered engineered species 912 00:54:55.320 --> 00:54:59.760 of Grays that they have created rights so that they 913 00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:02.960 don't have to take responsibility for it. Now, as far 914 00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:07.320 as the other phenomenon, I really have no idea because 915 00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:11.239 there are huge paranormal hotspots all around the planet where 916 00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:16.320 it seems like that there's you know, this crazy amount 917 00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:20.519 of weird, high strangeness going on. Right, But we can't 918 00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:24.880 say that that's aliens. We can't say that that's extraterrestrial. 919 00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:28.559 There's absolutely zero proof that any of it's extraterrestrial or 920 00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:32.480 that it's aliens. Right, there's zero proof that it's you know, 921 00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:36.480 a paranormal phenomenon. There's zero proof that it's bigfoot. You know, 922 00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:39.440 it's and they're trying to blinkt the entire thing under 923 00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:44.519 one label. And that's not the way that it works. 924 00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:49.800 When there's if something's unexplainable, you just say that it's unexplainable, right, 925 00:55:49.840 --> 00:55:52.360 you say that I have no ideas, you know. But 926 00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:56.960 there's people that are like, oh, yeah, it's absolutely aliens, 927 00:55:57.159 --> 00:55:59.880 extraterrestrials from off our planet. They're coming here to abduct 928 00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:02.880 and take us. They're here to take our cows and 929 00:56:03.559 --> 00:56:06.679 molest us and rape us and take our children and 930 00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:09.159 all that. Like, well, you know, when you think logically 931 00:56:09.199 --> 00:56:14.599 and critically about it, why would any extraterrestrial race from 932 00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:19.880 off our planet ever come here to abduct anybody? It 933 00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:22.079 makes absolutely no sense, and then they try and spin 934 00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:25.360 it to where, you know, it's us from the future 935 00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:27.920 and the time travel is real, and that the Grays 936 00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:31.639 have a defective DNA line and they're coming to abduct 937 00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:36.079 humans in order to you know, repair their DNA and 938 00:56:36.119 --> 00:56:38.719 the future and to warn us about the future. It's 939 00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:42.119 just all made up shit. You know, no one's ever 940 00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:48.320 heard that directly from an extraterrestrial It's just theories and speculation, 941 00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:52.880 and they've taken those theories in that speculation as a 942 00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:56.559 way to try and explain the phenomena in order to 943 00:56:56.920 --> 00:57:00.320 try and wrap our head around what's going on. When 944 00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:06.360 it's not the truth, you know, it's crazy, and you 945 00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:10.480 know that that's really what a lot of this is 946 00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:14.760 is theories and speculation. And when people can admit that 947 00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:21.679 it's theories and speculation and that it's not factual and 948 00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:25.519 that there's no evidence for any of this stuff, I believe, 949 00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:28.719 then we can get somewhere and then then it won't 950 00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:31.840 be such a hot topic because they're they're passing it 951 00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:37.280 off as truth and real and physical. You know, that's 952 00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:41.239 my biggest problem, and it should be everybody's biggest problem 953 00:57:41.280 --> 00:57:44.440 with a lot of these topics. Right, you come out 954 00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:47.760 and say, hey, like, I have no idea, but this 955 00:57:47.880 --> 00:57:50.280 is my thoughts and my ideas on it. Right, we 956 00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:55.119 have no proof that this is real. But here's my explanation, 957 00:57:56.440 --> 00:57:58.239 which is, you know, really what I try to do. 958 00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:04.639 Everyone's basically just winging on this thing on all these topics. Yeah, 959 00:58:04.679 --> 00:58:05.440 you're one hundred person. 960 00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:09.320 That's the way that I've always approached this show is 961 00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:10.239 is this possible? 962 00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:12.199 Could this be the answer? 963 00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:15.239 And what's happened, especially in the past few years in 964 00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:17.559 our community is there's been too many people saying that 965 00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:20.079 this is the answer, this is the way it is, 966 00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:22.800 and there's no other way it can be, And then 967 00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:26.000 the other ways present themselves as they always do, and 968 00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:29.119 they end up their paradigm ends up crumbling. And this 969 00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:34.280 happens with many people who unfortunately crawl into this conspiratorial 970 00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:37.960 or broadcasting space. They get stuck with a certain idea, 971 00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:41.679 are a certain belief system that drags them into oblivion 972 00:58:41.760 --> 00:58:45.800 because their belief system is crumbled. Now, you know, I 973 00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:51.599 do think, I do believe personally there are there are 974 00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:55.280 beings and unexplained things around us at all time. And 975 00:58:55.320 --> 00:58:57.920 that's just based off of my own personal experiences in 976 00:58:57.960 --> 00:59:00.679 my truths and things that that I've come to understand. 977 00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:03.639 But from what I'm hearing from you is that you 978 00:59:03.719 --> 00:59:07.960 currently are leaning towards there that most of what we 979 00:59:08.119 --> 00:59:12.320 consider to be extraterrestrial or paranormal experiences is our government. 980 00:59:14.639 --> 00:59:20.039 The paranormal stuff is really a completely separate thing. I 981 00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:23.559 don't think I've ever had a straight paranormal investigator on 982 00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:25.679 my show. That might be the next topic that I 983 00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:29.440 try and dive into after I'm done with the Stargate 984 00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:33.360 project and the military involvement in the psychics and remote yours. 985 00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:37.119 I try and kind of take one topic out of 986 00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:39.880 time and figure it out and then try and put 987 00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:43.719 the picture together like I, you know, started out with 988 00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:46.800 you know, the ETS and the UFOs, And once I 989 00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:50.159 felt comfortable that I figured out, you know, well, that 990 00:59:50.199 --> 00:59:53.519 I felt satisfied that I had figured out that phenomenon 991 00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:56.000 and really what was going on, then I moved on 992 00:59:56.920 --> 00:59:59.480 and I moved on to the remote viewing and the 993 00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:03.719 psychic in the esp that the government we're doing studies on. 994 01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:05.880 And then once I'm done with that, then I'll move 995 01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:09.199 on to something else. And I'm not gonna talk about 996 01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:11.880 the exact same thing forever. It's it's you know, it's 997 01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:14.400 a it's a process. But as far as the paranormal 998 01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:17.480 stuff goes, I really have no idea what's going on. 999 01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:20.719 I've had experiences. I've had paranormal experiences my entire life, 1000 01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:23.159 you know. I remember being a kid waking up in 1001 01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:25.760 the middle of the night, the beans surrounded me in 1002 01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:29.239 my bed, translucent beans coming out of the walls. 1003 01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:29.760 You know. 1004 01:00:29.800 --> 01:00:34.440 I've investigated a lot of the most paranormally active places 1005 01:00:34.480 --> 01:00:42.719 in the United States. Moundsville Penitentiary, Transallgany Lunatic Asylum, Mansfield Penitentiary, 1006 01:00:43.880 --> 01:00:50.199 the Rectory in Cincinnati, Ohio, Trinway Prospect place in Trinwey, Ohio, 1007 01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:57.159 just a bunch of different that place in Louisville, the big, 1008 01:00:57.280 --> 01:01:02.239 huge tuberculosis hospital there. I can't Waverley Hill's Waverley Hills Sanitarium. 1009 01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:04.159 I've been to a lot of these places, and I've 1010 01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:09.519 also investigated people's homes and stuff, and I've experienced a 1011 01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:14.880 lot of unexplainable phenomenon. But as far as exactly what 1012 01:01:15.039 --> 01:01:17.639 it is, I really have no clue. 1013 01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:20.280 Right I don't I want to ask you. You said that you. 1014 01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:24.840 Based on everything that you've done so far with UFOs 1015 01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:27.920 and extraterrestriels, that you've kind of you've moved on, that 1016 01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:30.400 you've absorbed a lot from that topic, that you feel 1017 01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:34.559 you have a good enough understanding. Now, do you think 1018 01:01:34.599 --> 01:01:38.519 that if if different ideas or different understandings would ever 1019 01:01:38.639 --> 01:01:41.320 come up, that you would revisit that or if you 1020 01:01:41.480 --> 01:01:46.599 had any other types of revelations. Because for me, for myself, 1021 01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:48.880 whenever I think that I'm done with a topic or 1022 01:01:48.920 --> 01:01:52.079 you know, that's it, something throws itself in my face, 1023 01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:54.400 just like we were saying and saying, Nope, that's not it. 1024 01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:54.960 You know. 1025 01:01:55.320 --> 01:01:58.519 That's why I'm always constantly rotating and going back to 1026 01:01:58.599 --> 01:02:01.159 different topics and you having topics is because I don't 1027 01:02:01.159 --> 01:02:04.199 think I'll ever have a real understanding of anything I'm covering. 1028 01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:07.119 You know, if I do bless. 1029 01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:10.679 The universe, Thank you baby Jesus for showing me the way. 1030 01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:12.800 But well then I have no idea what's going on. 1031 01:02:12.840 --> 01:02:16.519 And I can continue to, you know, revolve through these topics. 1032 01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:19.760 But if anything ever comes up, if you have a 1033 01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:23.239 different understanding of UFOs, would you revisit. 1034 01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:29.000 I'm constantly always talking about it. I just felt personally 1035 01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:32.880 satisfied with my stance on it. Now, that doesn't mean 1036 01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:35.679 that I'm not going to believe, you know, bring people 1037 01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:40.000 on that leave that they're being visited by extraterrestrials. Right, 1038 01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:43.760 that's the confusion that some people might get it, but 1039 01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:47.320 you don't get through just by interviewing the same kinds 1040 01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:50.239 of people all the time. I'm still open though, all 1041 01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:53.440 kinds of different possibilities, and I can stay open to 1042 01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:57.280 all different kinds of possibilities while still maintaining my personal 1043 01:02:57.320 --> 01:03:00.920 belief in the right, I have my personal belief, and 1044 01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:04.000 then other people have their own personal belief, and I 1045 01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:07.000 can still keep my personal belief while also taking on 1046 01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:10.360 somebody else's information. Right, It's just like a roll of 1047 01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:14.159 dex of information. I mean, I just had you know, 1048 01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:17.119 augnosed on the other day, and he's talking about that 1049 01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:20.440 that they're real, and that they that they're interdimensional and 1050 01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:22.920 they're extra dimensional and all this. You know. I let 1051 01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:25.519 him speak, and I gave my ideas and my thoughts, 1052 01:03:26.519 --> 01:03:29.239 you know, surrounding what I think is going on, right, 1053 01:03:29.599 --> 01:03:32.639 but I didn't discount what he was saying. I'm just like, hey, listen, 1054 01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:34.719 this is what I think is happening. I don't think 1055 01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:38.519 they has anything to do with extraterrestrials or beings traveling 1056 01:03:38.519 --> 01:03:40.599 from space. And then he gave his explanation, and then 1057 01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:44.679 we had a civil conversation. Right, I obviously don't don't 1058 01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:46.599 have the truth. I don't believe anybody has the truth, 1059 01:03:46.679 --> 01:03:48.360 and anybody that tells you that they do have the 1060 01:03:48.360 --> 01:03:52.159 truth is full shit. I only have, like you know, 1061 01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:54.840 I can only figure things out for me personally, and 1062 01:03:54.840 --> 01:03:57.800 then I can share that information that I figured out 1063 01:03:57.960 --> 01:04:01.159 with hopefully to people that I want to listen. But 1064 01:04:01.440 --> 01:04:06.480 I can't understand the confusion. And you know, people saying, oh, well, 1065 01:04:07.039 --> 01:04:09.079 why are you bringing this person on your show? Whenever 1066 01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:12.840 you said that you know ET's and extraterrestrials don't exist 1067 01:04:12.880 --> 01:04:16.719 and they're not hearing physical bodies. Well, you know it's 1068 01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:20.400 never good to only talk to the people share your 1069 01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:23.599 exact views and beliefs, right, You're just creating an echo 1070 01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:27.039 chamber of thoughts, ideas, and beliefs, right if you don't 1071 01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:30.480 get an alternative perspective. Now, that doesn't mean that I'm 1072 01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:32.400 ever going to bring anybody on that I think is 1073 01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:35.519 completely full of shit, because it's never going to happen. Right, 1074 01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:37.679 If I bring somebody on my show, it's going to 1075 01:04:37.719 --> 01:04:42.480 be because I think that they're that they're somewhat legitimate, 1076 01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:44.559 that they have something important to say. 1077 01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:47.440 Now, now I want to go back to the Good 1078 01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:51.800 fiasco to close out a bit. Have you heard anything 1079 01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:55.360 that's going on with will Cox since the trial and 1080 01:04:55.679 --> 01:04:58.599 all this information started coming out? Is he Is he 1081 01:04:58.719 --> 01:05:00.880 still making videos? Is he he's still trying to push 1082 01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:02.360 in some of this bullshit. 1083 01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:08.280 I had heard by somebody. I to be completely honest, 1084 01:05:08.320 --> 01:05:12.920 in one percent, I have never watched one video with 1085 01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:16.719 David wilcokok or one video with Corey Good. I tried 1086 01:05:17.039 --> 01:05:17.599 in the past. 1087 01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:20.440 I watched their bullshit movie when it came out, just 1088 01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:22.519 to see what the fuss was about. Man, was that 1089 01:05:22.639 --> 01:05:23.840 a piece of garbage? 1090 01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:27.960 But yeah, people have sent me videos of David Wolcock 1091 01:05:28.039 --> 01:05:33.079 and Corey Good talking and I watched it for five 1092 01:05:33.119 --> 01:05:36.239 minutes and I've turned it off every single time. I 1093 01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:40.800 just can't listen to it. There's just something about the 1094 01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:44.000 bullshit and nonsense that was coming out of their mouth 1095 01:05:44.039 --> 01:05:48.039 and I just could not possibly listen to, you know. 1096 01:05:48.239 --> 01:05:51.880 And now I have listened to people commenting on you 1097 01:05:51.880 --> 01:05:55.679 know videos of Corey Good and David Wilcock, you know, 1098 01:05:55.840 --> 01:05:59.599 for fun like Steven Cambian on True Secrets. He does 1099 01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:02.920 all that momentary stuff and you know, trying to expose 1100 01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:07.400 the frauds and the fakes within the community. But as 1101 01:06:07.400 --> 01:06:10.360 far as David Wolcott goes, I haven't heard of any 1102 01:06:11.079 --> 01:06:15.079 statements or but he's been completely thrown under the bus. 1103 01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:22.159 Everybody that's supported Corey Good's statement at any time in 1104 01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:24.559 the history of them being a public figure, it has 1105 01:06:24.599 --> 01:06:27.119 to come in the question now. And he had a 1106 01:06:27.159 --> 01:06:30.679 lot of supporters, A lot of people were supporting him 1107 01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:36.079 and confirming his story, right, Tony rod Riggs confirming his story, 1108 01:06:36.119 --> 01:06:41.920 Loura Eisenhower confirming his story, you know, many times, Johann 1109 01:06:41.960 --> 01:06:43.559 Fritz confirming his story. 1110 01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:47.760 Doctor Michael Salad. Yeah, they had plenty of people who 1111 01:06:48.199 --> 01:06:52.440 piggybacked off his success and they they they got pretty 1112 01:06:52.440 --> 01:06:55.880 far with it. But unfortunately, now that all this is 1113 01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:59.039 coming out, I'm wondering where this is going to leave 1114 01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:03.400 the Secret Space community and all the millions of people 1115 01:07:03.480 --> 01:07:06.320 who were latching onto this story. I mean, is it 1116 01:07:06.360 --> 01:07:09.039 possible that we could really move on and try and 1117 01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:12.719 figure out what is going on behind this? Is this 1118 01:07:12.800 --> 01:07:16.800 some sort of large mk ultra program. Why are now 1119 01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:20.800 or that they introducing UFOs into our consciousness and portraying 1120 01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:23.400 them as a threat. Why is all this stuff happening 1121 01:07:23.679 --> 01:07:27.000 and coinciding with everything that happened with COVID and the 1122 01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:30.719 jabs and where we're headed as collectively. I mean, all 1123 01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:33.519 these things are connected in some way. It's just a 1124 01:07:33.559 --> 01:07:36.079 matter of figuring it out with and sifting through all 1125 01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:39.719 the bullshit that people are trying to present in this community. 1126 01:07:39.760 --> 01:07:43.639 Whether it's COVID bullshit or alien bullshit. There's a lot 1127 01:07:43.679 --> 01:07:45.360 of bullshit to shift sift. 1128 01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:45.840 Through right now. 1129 01:07:46.360 --> 01:07:48.440 And I think that's the point. Just like you said 1130 01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:54.280 with the Shadowland documentary, they want to not only discredit 1131 01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:57.039 people who want to have open discussions like this and 1132 01:07:57.119 --> 01:07:58.760 talk freely about these things. 1133 01:07:59.000 --> 01:07:59.880 And just like we're. 1134 01:07:59.679 --> 01:08:02.760 Doing, we are discussing this. We may not have the 1135 01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:05.360 exact same viewpoints on all this stuff, but we're bringing 1136 01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:09.079 this information out there. And that's what terrifies the people, 1137 01:08:09.199 --> 01:08:12.719 the gatekeepers and those that don't want this information discussed 1138 01:08:13.159 --> 01:08:15.760 is people who are just honestly discussing this and throwing 1139 01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:18.800 out the possibilities out there instead of just throwing out 1140 01:08:18.840 --> 01:08:22.000 one bullshit possibility that we need to believe no matter what, 1141 01:08:22.359 --> 01:08:24.720 and if you don't, you're going to be a shun 1142 01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:26.479 from whatever community you're part of. 1143 01:08:26.600 --> 01:08:28.279 So that's what we're facing right now. 1144 01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:31.920 That's exactly what Corey Good was. Corey Good was a gatekeeper. 1145 01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:39.039 He constantly blocked anybody and ridiculed them and doxed them 1146 01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:46.279 that were claiming to have any similar experiences that he 1147 01:08:46.319 --> 01:08:50.239 had had. And that's exactly what he was doing. And 1148 01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:54.159 you know, he docks several people. There's been several people 1149 01:08:54.199 --> 01:08:58.720 that that has happened to. He's you know, cyber stocked them. 1150 01:08:58.800 --> 01:09:02.720 He's had people his crew and his you know, his 1151 01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:08.000 fan club going after people onlining them emails and saying 1152 01:09:08.039 --> 01:09:11.560 the stop talking about him. And it comes out that 1153 01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:16.960 he thinks that he has a trademark on all of 1154 01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:20.600 those things and it's all part of his intellectual property 1155 01:09:20.680 --> 01:09:23.760 and that he's the only person that can talk about 1156 01:09:23.800 --> 01:09:26.079 any of those things. And that's been happening for a 1157 01:09:26.159 --> 01:09:28.560 really really long time. He's been doing that and that's 1158 01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:30.479 what's given him such a bad name. And that's why 1159 01:09:30.600 --> 01:09:34.840 none of the conference people wanted to have him at 1160 01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:38.039 their conferences. That's been happening before this lawsuit was ever 1161 01:09:38.079 --> 01:09:41.840 a thing. This was like twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, you know, 1162 01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:45.680 twenty twenty one. And then there's the people that supported 1163 01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:50.359 him through all of that, you know, and that tried 1164 01:09:50.359 --> 01:09:54.760 to back up his story as legitimate, you know, James Gilliland, 1165 01:09:54.920 --> 01:09:59.640 Peter Maxwell's slattery, the Edge of Wonder, guys like all 1166 01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:04.680 those people all backed his story and supported him through 1167 01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:06.640 all that, you know, and then it all comes out 1168 01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:09.319 as fake. They have to answer to that shit. They 1169 01:10:09.359 --> 01:10:13.000 just can't be let off the hook. You know. It's 1170 01:10:13.039 --> 01:10:16.159 a death blow, is what this is. And it's a 1171 01:10:16.279 --> 01:10:22.399 very very important time. I encourage everybody to not let 1172 01:10:22.439 --> 01:10:26.760 this slide. It can't it can't slide. You know. We 1173 01:10:26.880 --> 01:10:31.479 have to have some version of integrity on the stuff 1174 01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:34.039 that we're talking about, and we can't just let the 1175 01:10:34.119 --> 01:10:37.520 shit go and let him try and build himself back up. 1176 01:10:37.920 --> 01:10:41.199 When he said under oath in court during the deposition 1177 01:10:42.079 --> 01:10:45.600 that he made it all up, that can't go backwards. 1178 01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:49.439 And everyone that's supported him and everyone that's been you know, 1179 01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:52.199 saying that his story is real and legit has to 1180 01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:55.199 they have to take responsibility for that too, And that's 1181 01:10:55.239 --> 01:10:59.680 what I'm that's really my goal here and you know, 1182 01:11:01.359 --> 01:11:03.840 and doing this and talking about this, is that the 1183 01:11:03.880 --> 01:11:06.560 people that you know supported him and propped him up 1184 01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:09.399 and said that his story is real and legit and 1185 01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:11.680 that they saw them in space and that they were 1186 01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:15.359 helping him fight aliens in space and doing all this 1187 01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:19.760 time travel stuff and part of the Alliance, the Spear 1188 01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:24.960 Being Alliance and the White Hats and all this bullshit nonsense. 1189 01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:28.319 Has to take some kind of accountability or some kind 1190 01:11:28.399 --> 01:11:34.319 of responsibility for doing that. They either knew that it 1191 01:11:34.359 --> 01:11:40.079 was fake from the very beginning but instead decided to 1192 01:11:40.119 --> 01:11:45.880 back up his story anyway, or they legitimately didn't know, 1193 01:11:46.199 --> 01:11:49.760 but they were still trying to capitalize on his story 1194 01:11:49.960 --> 01:11:53.880 and become popular or make some kind of money or 1195 01:11:53.960 --> 01:11:57.079 run some kind of scam on people. 1196 01:11:57.520 --> 01:11:57.720 You know. 1197 01:11:57.760 --> 01:12:00.640 That's a huge thing that came out during that deposition, 1198 01:12:01.239 --> 01:12:04.720 is that he's made millions of dollars off of his 1199 01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:09.439 story and he's portraying that story as a physical, real 1200 01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:14.079 life three D experience, when it was that is the 1201 01:12:14.159 --> 01:12:18.239 problem that is the issue here. It's not the story 1202 01:12:18.279 --> 01:12:20.239 in itself, It was the way that he was presenting 1203 01:12:20.279 --> 01:12:21.840 the story now. 1204 01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:24.479 Yeah, Now I want to put a call out there 1205 01:12:24.520 --> 01:12:29.680 to anyone that is still claiming to be involved with 1206 01:12:30.359 --> 01:12:36.119 secret space programs, off planet operations. Not necessarily that supports 1207 01:12:36.199 --> 01:12:39.439 Corey good that, but maybe supports some of the information 1208 01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:43.000 that came out of that whole movement. Hey, come on 1209 01:12:43.079 --> 01:12:46.479 the show and explain what's really going on. If you 1210 01:12:46.520 --> 01:12:49.520 can come on here and explain in an intelligent way 1211 01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:53.600 and a way that is you know, helps everyone in 1212 01:12:53.640 --> 01:12:57.119 the audience me understand that this is a possibility still. 1213 01:12:57.680 --> 01:12:59.840 I'm open for you to come on the show. I'd 1214 01:13:00.479 --> 01:13:03.640 I'd love for to hear possibilities on how this could 1215 01:13:03.680 --> 01:13:07.600 still be real in sub aspects. But as of now, 1216 01:13:07.640 --> 01:13:10.359 it doesn't look good for any of these guys that 1217 01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:13.880 were in this community, and it just I want it 1218 01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:16.279 makes me want to go deeper and get more answers 1219 01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:19.840 as to what is happening with those individuals that you know, 1220 01:13:19.920 --> 01:13:22.920 I thought truly believed and I thought we're genuine in 1221 01:13:23.039 --> 01:13:25.279 this space, you know. I want to talk to them 1222 01:13:25.319 --> 01:13:28.239 again and get their thoughts on this and maybe revisit 1223 01:13:28.319 --> 01:13:31.119 some of this stuff and see if maybe some of 1224 01:13:31.119 --> 01:13:32.239 them want to admit. 1225 01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:33.640 Something I don't know, maybe not. 1226 01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:36.239 Well, see it's it's interesting to see how all this 1227 01:13:36.279 --> 01:13:36.920 will unfold. 1228 01:13:37.640 --> 01:13:39.800 Yeah, it is really interesting. But really quick before we go, 1229 01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:42.880 I know, we got to wrap up. All that they're 1230 01:13:42.920 --> 01:13:47.159 going to do is shift blame. They're going to be 1231 01:13:47.239 --> 01:13:50.680 like I said, he was lying from the beginning. I 1232 01:13:50.760 --> 01:13:53.319 was out against them from the beginning. And he said 1233 01:13:53.359 --> 01:13:56.520 all this stuff. He was infiltrated into the community to 1234 01:13:56.560 --> 01:14:00.960 cover up real secret space program and real super soldiers 1235 01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:02.880 that are out there fighting it. We've already seen that. 1236 01:14:02.880 --> 01:14:05.720 That's already happened. They're already doing that. They're already trying 1237 01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:10.720 to uh divert the attention from you know, from them 1238 01:14:10.760 --> 01:14:13.039 and make their stories out to be real. They're actually 1239 01:14:13.119 --> 01:14:18.079 using it as an excuse to claim that they have 1240 01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:21.079 the real version of the story when they all witness 1241 01:14:21.199 --> 01:14:24.880 the exact same car crash. Bro, they all seen it, 1242 01:14:25.119 --> 01:14:27.760 they were all part of it from the very beginning. 1243 01:14:28.159 --> 01:14:30.880 You know, that's just you know, my thoughts. I think 1244 01:14:30.920 --> 01:14:34.079 that it's all bullshit, nonsense, and it's all made up, 1245 01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:39.880 and you know, and they have to take responsibility for that, 1246 01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:42.560 and they have to own up to you know them, 1247 01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:45.319 you know, supporting them, but Again. The problem is is 1248 01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:49.560 that they've built their entire personality and their entire career 1249 01:14:49.760 --> 01:14:55.880 online backed by this persona that they've created. Right, So 1250 01:14:56.359 --> 01:14:59.119 even if they believe, which I know for a fact, 1251 01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:03.920 a hand fold them know that it's all bullshit and nonsense, 1252 01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:06.319 that it's not real, that it's made up, right, But 1253 01:15:06.399 --> 01:15:10.079 they can't say that because if they do, they completely 1254 01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:13.720 lose their audience, They lose all the people that ever 1255 01:15:13.800 --> 01:15:15.960 listen to them. You know, it makes them look like 1256 01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:18.039 a fool, and they're not going to do that, so 1257 01:15:18.760 --> 01:15:23.319 they have to double down on everything that they've set 1258 01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:23.840 so far. 1259 01:15:25.079 --> 01:15:28.159 Yeah, it's it's a sad thing to see happen. But 1260 01:15:28.920 --> 01:15:31.960 one another thing that I have come to realize, especially 1261 01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:34.560 during the times we're in right now, is this is 1262 01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:38.159 an era where everything is coming to light. You can't 1263 01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:43.840 hide these with behind these lies anymore. For whatever cosmic reasons, 1264 01:15:43.880 --> 01:15:47.199 for whatever area of space that we're headed into, or 1265 01:15:47.199 --> 01:15:50.159 whatever cosmic energies are hitting in whatever kind of awakening 1266 01:15:50.199 --> 01:15:55.840 we're in, truth is emerging and lies are not surviving anymore. 1267 01:15:55.880 --> 01:15:58.399 And it's a beautiful thing to see unfolding. And it's 1268 01:15:58.439 --> 01:16:01.319 it's wonderful to see all the things that are coming 1269 01:16:01.319 --> 01:16:05.039 to light right now, not only surrounding Secret Space Program 1270 01:16:05.079 --> 01:16:06.880 and all the weird shit that we talk about, but 1271 01:16:07.319 --> 01:16:11.560 in our own reality parapolitics, in our own communities, and 1272 01:16:11.640 --> 01:16:14.000 in our own personal lives. The truth is coming out 1273 01:16:14.079 --> 01:16:15.960 right now and it's a beautiful thing to see happen. 1274 01:16:16.560 --> 01:16:19.680 And writer, thank you so much, brother, before you hit out. 1275 01:16:19.760 --> 01:16:23.039 Let everyone know where they can find all your good stuff. 1276 01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:27.720 Thanks so much, Chris. I appreciate you a lot. And yes, 1277 01:16:27.800 --> 01:16:31.439 it's a very exciting time to be in this community. 1278 01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:36.279 You know, Like whenever I first started my channel, like 1279 01:16:36.399 --> 01:16:39.680 I had like a lot of fire under my belt, 1280 01:16:39.720 --> 01:16:43.760 you know, I was like, yeah, this is awesome, sweet, 1281 01:16:43.840 --> 01:16:46.000 you know, let's do this. Let's you know, try and 1282 01:16:46.039 --> 01:16:48.039 get dig down to the truth of all this stuff. 1283 01:16:48.359 --> 01:16:51.079 And yeah, I did interview some of these people in 1284 01:16:51.159 --> 01:16:55.399 the past, and I have interviewed some of the you know, 1285 01:16:55.479 --> 01:16:58.640 super soldiers, some of the Secret Space Program people. But 1286 01:16:58.800 --> 01:17:01.560 as things developed, some just did not set right with 1287 01:17:01.640 --> 01:17:04.840 me about the entire thing, right, and I dug deeper 1288 01:17:05.239 --> 01:17:08.640 and I have you know, I never took them as 1289 01:17:08.880 --> 01:17:11.079 what they were seeing is one hundred percent truthful. There 1290 01:17:11.079 --> 01:17:12.359 was always that thing in the back of my head 1291 01:17:12.399 --> 01:17:15.119 that was like, yeah, I don't know about this whole thing. 1292 01:17:15.239 --> 01:17:17.159 And then that's when I started digging deeper into it, and 1293 01:17:17.199 --> 01:17:18.680 I'm like, Okay, well, I'm want to figure it out. 1294 01:17:18.680 --> 01:17:20.479 I'm going to get taught him of it, you know, 1295 01:17:20.640 --> 01:17:24.159 and try and figure out exactly what's going on here. 1296 01:17:24.760 --> 01:17:27.439 And every time that I thought that, you know, I'm 1297 01:17:27.439 --> 01:17:30.479 like at a not really a low point, but you know, 1298 01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:34.840 not really sure where to go with something next. And 1299 01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:38.800 I was just thinking, like last year, well, at the 1300 01:17:38.840 --> 01:17:40.840 beginning of this year, beginning of twenty twenty two, I 1301 01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:45.640 was like, damn, I really miss them, you know, the 1302 01:17:46.039 --> 01:17:50.680 intriguing part of this community. Right during COVID and like 1303 01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:53.479 twenty twenty it was like booming, bro it was like 1304 01:17:54.039 --> 01:17:57.079 everybody was talking about all kinds of stuff, you know, 1305 01:17:57.119 --> 01:17:59.920 it was exciting, you know. And now I think we've 1306 01:18:00.199 --> 01:18:05.239 hit this other level of the community right now, in 1307 01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:10.560 this very moment that's just as exciting as what was 1308 01:18:10.600 --> 01:18:14.920 happening in twenty twenty in just a different kind of way. 1309 01:18:15.279 --> 01:18:19.199 Right it's all getting let out, it's all getting exposed, 1310 01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:22.760 and I really couldn't be happier about that. I think 1311 01:18:22.840 --> 01:18:25.560 that It's a wonderful time to be a part of 1312 01:18:25.600 --> 01:18:28.880 this community and be doing this stuff. And I'm very, 1313 01:18:28.960 --> 01:18:32.640 very excited about where all this leads and what happens 1314 01:18:33.039 --> 01:18:37.680 from here in this con continuing lead developing story, and 1315 01:18:37.720 --> 01:18:40.800 how many other videos comes out, and the responses of 1316 01:18:41.199 --> 01:18:45.880 these people, and how this community really fares and goes 1317 01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:49.119 forward from this, especially the Secret Space program and the 1318 01:18:49.119 --> 01:18:52.279 Super Soldier community, because there's no other way that it 1319 01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:56.119 can really possibly go. They have to create all these 1320 01:18:56.159 --> 01:18:58.960 excuses and all this stuff which can easily have holes 1321 01:18:58.960 --> 01:19:01.199 poked in them. Again, Chris, thanks so much for having 1322 01:19:01.199 --> 01:19:02.920 me on your show. If people are interested in checking 1323 01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:05.840 out my work, thinking give me on rock Fan at 1324 01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:08.800 Raised by Giants, all the different podcast platforms, on the 1325 01:19:08.840 --> 01:19:12.560 Forbid Knowledge News Network, and on YouTube at Raised by Giants. 1326 01:19:12.560 --> 01:19:14.560 Thanks again so much, and thanks to the audience for 1327 01:19:14.720 --> 01:19:15.479 watching and listening. 1328 01:19:15.479 --> 01:19:19.039 Appreciate you all, sweetness. Yes, we're gonna have to keep 1329 01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:23.079 us updated on this developing story. I'm sure we'll be 1330 01:19:23.159 --> 01:19:26.000 doing more episodes about this and all the crazy shit 1331 01:19:26.079 --> 01:19:29.239 that's unfolding. Look forward to that writer. Thank you so much, 1332 01:19:29.279 --> 01:19:32.039 and until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. 1333 01:19:32.119 --> 01:19:33.960 We will talk again tomorrow. We'll see all then. 1334 01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:40.520 Today, I want to welcome back to the show, Randy Weidenheimer. 1335 01:19:40.760 --> 01:19:44.000 He is a host of Guys original series Quantum Effect, 1336 01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:48.079 as well as a featured guest and Undisclosed. He has 1337 01:19:48.159 --> 01:19:51.920 also appeared in Open Minds with Regina Meredith and Beyond 1338 01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:55.920 Belief with George Nori. He is an energy healer and 1339 01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:59.279 a member of the Patawatami tribe. He learned at a 1340 01:19:59.399 --> 01:20:03.079 very young age the power of plants and vibration in 1341 01:20:03.119 --> 01:20:06.520 the healing process. At around the age of nineteen, he 1342 01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:10.000 began his in depth studies of martial arts, which led 1343 01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:13.760 to other forms of energy transfer and healing practices from 1344 01:20:13.880 --> 01:20:17.960 world renowned masters and teachers. He developed a healing method 1345 01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:22.399 he calls creative energetic health. Randy, welcome back. 1346 01:20:22.439 --> 01:20:23.039 How you doing. 1347 01:20:23.800 --> 01:20:25.800 I'm doing great. Good to see you again. 1348 01:20:26.239 --> 01:20:28.479 Yeah, great to see you. It's been a while since 1349 01:20:28.479 --> 01:20:32.119 you've been on. Today, I think we're gonna dive deeper 1350 01:20:32.199 --> 01:20:35.600 into true nature of how we really interact with all 1351 01:20:35.640 --> 01:20:39.640 the energy and information surrounding us at all times. We're 1352 01:20:39.640 --> 01:20:42.840 gonna discuss discuss some things that you're currently looking at, 1353 01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:47.760 like biohacking and field information flows and interferences. We're gonna 1354 01:20:47.760 --> 01:20:50.640 find out all about that. But since it's been so long, 1355 01:20:50.880 --> 01:20:54.520 remind the audience a bit about your background and what 1356 01:20:54.720 --> 01:20:56.039 led you down the path here on. 1357 01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:02.680 I think there was a country in Western song that said, 1358 01:21:04.079 --> 01:21:06.920 God bless the crooked road that led me to you. 1359 01:21:09.279 --> 01:21:13.520 I think that's true for everyone, and mine might have 1360 01:21:13.640 --> 01:21:18.560 been more crooked than most. But at a very early age. 1361 01:21:18.600 --> 01:21:21.600 I mean it's seven eight years old, I've become fascinated 1362 01:21:21.640 --> 01:21:26.800 with physics, and in particular nuclear physics. Kind of an 1363 01:21:26.840 --> 01:21:30.279 odd thing for an eight year old, but by thirteen 1364 01:21:30.399 --> 01:21:34.119 it was laser physics, and by fifteen or sixteen it 1365 01:21:34.159 --> 01:21:39.800 was quantum physics. And so it's kind of like catching 1366 01:21:39.840 --> 01:21:42.880 a cold you can't get rid of. You know, you're 1367 01:21:42.880 --> 01:21:47.039 continually fighting with it or engaged with it, is the 1368 01:21:47.039 --> 01:21:51.359 way I refer to it. And as you go along, 1369 01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:56.159 you start learning the language, and if you keep going, 1370 01:21:56.279 --> 01:22:00.359 you start learning that the language is also present and 1371 01:22:00.399 --> 01:22:05.359 everything from spirituality to psychology to just all kinds of things. 1372 01:22:06.319 --> 01:22:08.560 So one of the things I do is what I 1373 01:22:08.640 --> 01:22:14.640 call cultural appropriation of quantum physics language. And when I 1374 01:22:14.760 --> 01:22:17.399 did that started doing that, that was like twenty five 1375 01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:21.520 years ago, I was at a science and consciousness conference 1376 01:22:21.560 --> 01:22:25.159 and I started talking about that in that way, and 1377 01:22:25.199 --> 01:22:29.600 they basically all thought I was crazy. And now it's commonplace. 1378 01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:34.600 It's commonplace to talk about these things, and so I 1379 01:22:34.640 --> 01:22:37.720 think that's the typical path. The first year crazy and 1380 01:22:37.760 --> 01:22:40.079 then they kind of accept it, and then like they 1381 01:22:40.159 --> 01:22:42.760 just passed you by and forget where it came from. Right, 1382 01:22:43.520 --> 01:22:48.279 But those were fascinating conversations because there were all kinds 1383 01:22:48.319 --> 01:22:51.760 of people of these conferences, and one of the things 1384 01:22:52.079 --> 01:22:59.159 that were Russian physicists, and they were a lot farther 1385 01:22:59.239 --> 01:23:02.560 along than we were in the application of some of 1386 01:23:02.640 --> 01:23:10.880 these things. And and basically it's applied consciousness. And doctor 1387 01:23:10.880 --> 01:23:14.000 Bill Tiller was a friend of mine and he got 1388 01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:16.520 all enamored with it. I wrote some books about it 1389 01:23:16.520 --> 01:23:18.920 and stuff, and I used to do some consulting with him. 1390 01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:25.039 And that's the ability of anybody to influence their own 1391 01:23:25.119 --> 01:23:31.079 selves and to influence everybody else. So if we keep 1392 01:23:31.119 --> 01:23:33.960 going to come up with like how to win friends 1393 01:23:33.960 --> 01:23:37.600 and influence people, that was a book back in the sixties, 1394 01:23:38.399 --> 01:23:41.439 and and then now we're at like how to be 1395 01:23:41.479 --> 01:23:46.079 a friend to yourself and and how to influence yourself 1396 01:23:46.079 --> 01:23:51.960 actually becomes a phenomenon of quantum physics. It's it's it's 1397 01:23:52.079 --> 01:23:56.199 taking everything outside and actually trying to find out what 1398 01:23:56.239 --> 01:24:01.479 the inside looks like. So, without being too vague, this 1399 01:24:01.600 --> 01:24:06.640 gets into everything from meditation to spirituality to whatever, because 1400 01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:10.960 everything you can influence outside of you, it's like done 1401 01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:15.760 by something inside you. So if we take that and 1402 01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:19.760 keep going, we come up with like, well, the human 1403 01:24:19.840 --> 01:24:25.039 body in human life is a great instruction manual. It 1404 01:24:25.119 --> 01:24:29.399 has all the faculties to be able to explore what 1405 01:24:29.439 --> 01:24:33.520 it means to have consciousness, or to be spiritual or 1406 01:24:33.560 --> 01:24:37.319 all these other things, right, And so then it becomes 1407 01:24:37.319 --> 01:24:43.399 a matter of avoiding the traps. The traps become ideas, 1408 01:24:43.760 --> 01:24:49.399 they become mems, they become viral thoughts literally, and we 1409 01:24:49.560 --> 01:24:54.399 participate in all that. And so at some point you 1410 01:24:54.560 --> 01:24:59.479 start coming back to the ideal, and especially in meditation, 1411 01:25:00.239 --> 01:25:03.920 that maybe you could have an influence on yourself. And 1412 01:25:03.960 --> 01:25:06.680 so I started studying martial arts at very early Asian 1413 01:25:06.760 --> 01:25:10.640 kung fu and martial arts very interesting. If you progress 1414 01:25:10.720 --> 01:25:15.520 beyond the fighting, it's very much about internal development. It's 1415 01:25:15.520 --> 01:25:19.880 about the ability to influence yourself. It's about the ability 1416 01:25:19.960 --> 01:25:23.159 to control your own blood pressure, to control your heartbeat, 1417 01:25:23.359 --> 01:25:28.439 control your respiration, and you've got the ideal subject yourself. 1418 01:25:29.920 --> 01:25:33.479 But these things are require a lot of time and 1419 01:25:33.680 --> 01:25:37.600 a lot of practice, and so most people today want 1420 01:25:37.640 --> 01:25:41.640 ap pial. It's like give me a pill. And of 1421 01:25:41.640 --> 01:25:44.920 course that's where we are, and what I call biohacking 1422 01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:48.840 is very popular right now. The idea you can modify 1423 01:25:48.880 --> 01:25:53.960 yourself well in kung fu and then Nalini yoga and 1424 01:25:54.039 --> 01:25:57.520 a lot of other spiritual practices. I've studied a bunch 1425 01:25:57.560 --> 01:26:00.760 of it over the last fifty years. Is Uh. The 1426 01:26:00.840 --> 01:26:03.119 difference is I decided that every time they'd say you 1427 01:26:03.159 --> 01:26:05.479 could do this or this could be done, I took 1428 01:26:05.520 --> 01:26:08.439 an interest in it and decided, let me practice that 1429 01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:12.960 to the point that I develop a skill set to 1430 01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:16.640 be able to influence my own thoughts, my own energy flows, 1431 01:26:16.800 --> 01:26:21.239 my own heart rate. Uh, you do it. I learned 1432 01:26:21.239 --> 01:26:24.720 to do it to others. And one of the things 1433 01:26:24.720 --> 01:26:27.880 about healing is like when you're doing the healing practices 1434 01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:31.239 of which I do on other people, it's like, excuse 1435 01:26:31.239 --> 01:26:33.920 me a minute, let me work on that on myself. Right, 1436 01:26:34.039 --> 01:26:36.199 let me see what the effect of that is for myself. 1437 01:26:38.079 --> 01:26:40.880 So now back to quantum physical we get into well 1438 01:26:40.880 --> 01:26:46.479 what are you using? What's the operatiorating kind of like 1439 01:26:48.279 --> 01:26:53.159 tools or I mean, this is where the language goes crazy. 1440 01:26:53.760 --> 01:26:58.760 You're using your own energy feel to influence others. They're 1441 01:26:59.079 --> 01:27:04.439 using your thoughts or emotions to power that. And somebody recently, 1442 01:27:04.640 --> 01:27:07.119 very famous said, well, if you want to make a 1443 01:27:07.199 --> 01:27:09.760 change the world, use your emotions, and like that's the 1444 01:27:09.760 --> 01:27:12.880 most horrible way to progress that I can think of, 1445 01:27:12.960 --> 01:27:17.520 But that's my opinion. Okay. The reason is you can't 1446 01:27:17.560 --> 01:27:20.600 sustain an emotion. I mean a lot of people can 1447 01:27:20.600 --> 01:27:23.159 hang onto one, you can be sad for years or 1448 01:27:23.279 --> 01:27:29.600 mad whatever, but you just can't do it. And so basically, 1449 01:27:29.800 --> 01:27:35.359 your electromagnetic field you can increase by all kinds of practice, breathing, 1450 01:27:36.520 --> 01:27:42.439 Proni Yama, just a dozen different things. But the idea 1451 01:27:42.520 --> 01:27:44.800 is the bigger the energy field, the more influence you have. 1452 01:27:45.520 --> 01:27:49.319 Now we know that we call that a charismatic person, 1453 01:27:50.479 --> 01:27:56.239 some of them run for president and so. But the 1454 01:27:56.319 --> 01:28:00.880 idea is that large electro magnetic field is something that 1455 01:28:01.079 --> 01:28:05.760 is you're capably utilizing like a tool, right, you can 1456 01:28:05.800 --> 01:28:10.039 apply it to yourself. So biohacking tries to find all 1457 01:28:10.039 --> 01:28:13.399 these different formulas. I've gone down that path. I've made 1458 01:28:13.399 --> 01:28:17.920 a bunch of formulas that have different benefits. One of 1459 01:28:17.960 --> 01:28:20.319 them was to be able to increase your theory feel 1460 01:28:20.399 --> 01:28:23.920 from about two inches out to about fourteen And it 1461 01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:26.479 tends to work. And it's been around in alchemy and 1462 01:28:26.800 --> 01:28:33.079 different things forever. And that's monotomic gold or you know, 1463 01:28:33.439 --> 01:28:36.720 just different things that you can put together. So people 1464 01:28:36.720 --> 01:28:40.840 are like, you have the baby boomers, seventy five million 1465 01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:44.520 baby boomers, what are they most interested in? Being younger? 1466 01:28:44.600 --> 01:28:49.319 Looking younger? Right, give me cosmetics, give me something. And 1467 01:28:49.399 --> 01:28:52.600 now we get into biohacking. Oh, we're going to call 1468 01:28:52.640 --> 01:28:56.159 that stem cells. Where you're going to call that all 1469 01:28:56.239 --> 01:28:59.920 kinds of things from crisper technology, cast nine to whatever. 1470 01:29:00.920 --> 01:29:03.399 And so that's kind of the current state of affairs. 1471 01:29:04.640 --> 01:29:07.840 But I tend to go in the other direction, which 1472 01:29:07.880 --> 01:29:12.119 is the internal direction. I mean, you can influence your 1473 01:29:12.199 --> 01:29:16.720 hormonal balance, you can influence your oucygen rates, your absorption 1474 01:29:16.920 --> 01:29:21.079 rates of oxygen, carbon, nitrogen, all these different things can 1475 01:29:21.119 --> 01:29:24.880 all be influenced by your ability to learn to interact 1476 01:29:24.920 --> 01:29:26.920 with your own self. It's the best tool in the 1477 01:29:27.000 --> 01:29:32.239 universe human body. So and the best thing to interact 1478 01:29:32.279 --> 01:29:35.119 with that is your own consciouness, as long as it's 1479 01:29:35.119 --> 01:29:41.119 your own consciousness. And there there becomes a problem. It's 1480 01:29:42.880 --> 01:29:44.479 if I'm talking too much interferre. 1481 01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:46.800 No, I just want to I want to stop you 1482 01:29:46.840 --> 01:29:48.680 for a minute, because I want to go back to 1483 01:29:49.079 --> 01:29:50.039 quantum physics. 1484 01:29:50.199 --> 01:29:52.840 You had mentioned a couple of times. 1485 01:29:52.479 --> 01:29:56.640 That you had introduced some ideas to the kind to 1486 01:29:56.640 --> 01:30:00.439 put to the public consciousness before we even real heard 1487 01:30:00.479 --> 01:30:04.439 about this from mainstream quantum physics. What are some of 1488 01:30:04.439 --> 01:30:09.680 the most exciting things that are coming out now in 1489 01:30:09.800 --> 01:30:14.079 quantum sciences that you may have had ideas about in 1490 01:30:14.119 --> 01:30:18.159 the past, And is there anything that they haven't gotten 1491 01:30:18.199 --> 01:30:21.439 to yet that maybe you have had in theories about already. 1492 01:30:23.399 --> 01:30:29.520 Oh yeah. The problem is when you get ahead of people, 1493 01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:32.039 you're considered crazy. 1494 01:30:33.039 --> 01:30:33.920 Yeah, And. 1495 01:30:35.479 --> 01:30:38.159 So I may have joined those ranks at an early age. 1496 01:30:38.199 --> 01:30:41.640 I don't know. I don't know. About twenty five years 1497 01:30:41.680 --> 01:30:45.479 ago they came out with in physics that there was 1498 01:30:45.520 --> 01:30:50.319 more than three or four dimensions, and not to mention 1499 01:30:50.399 --> 01:30:56.560 the names Micheo whatever. He was standing there with a 1500 01:30:56.560 --> 01:30:59.399 bunch of us are saying around, and I said, oh, 1501 01:30:59.439 --> 01:31:02.680 there go, they're going to introduce the idea there's eleven dimensions, 1502 01:31:02.720 --> 01:31:05.960 and I said, didn't you learn to count any higher 1503 01:31:06.399 --> 01:31:09.279 at an early age? And of course that didn't make 1504 01:31:09.319 --> 01:31:11.239 me popular, and I'm not supposed to be that way, 1505 01:31:11.239 --> 01:31:15.760 but I am occasionally. And so so the answer is 1506 01:31:16.000 --> 01:31:21.920 dimensionality is first of all, bad language. So when we 1507 01:31:22.039 --> 01:31:25.960 change that language to intersection, we get a better idea 1508 01:31:26.039 --> 01:31:31.239 what's going on? Right, So a quantum intersection means an 1509 01:31:31.279 --> 01:31:35.439 intersection of energy or information, and in this case, energy 1510 01:31:35.520 --> 01:31:40.720 slowed down is information. Information slowed down is matter. So 1511 01:31:41.239 --> 01:31:44.079 this all ties back to like how do you influence 1512 01:31:44.159 --> 01:31:48.479 the body? Right? If you can change the energy levels, 1513 01:31:48.520 --> 01:31:54.600 which can, then you can change the information club. So 1514 01:31:54.720 --> 01:32:00.239 one of the things in genetics is we have an 1515 01:32:00.279 --> 01:32:02.880 amount of genes we'll call it. Most of them are 1516 01:32:02.920 --> 01:32:07.840 what we call unexpressed. So if there's no energy flowing 1517 01:32:07.840 --> 01:32:11.159 through that gene, think of it as a template, then 1518 01:32:11.359 --> 01:32:14.560 you don't get that outcome. We carry templates for all 1519 01:32:14.680 --> 01:32:19.079 kinds of things. Right, I have brown eyes, some people 1520 01:32:19.159 --> 01:32:23.800 have green or blue. That's a template. Energy information flowing 1521 01:32:23.960 --> 01:32:29.159 or energy flows through that template and out the outcome. 1522 01:32:29.359 --> 01:32:32.199 You look at the outcome. So one of the things 1523 01:32:32.199 --> 01:32:36.159 we do in reality is don't question outcomes, right, we're 1524 01:32:36.199 --> 01:32:43.199 looking at it, so but we can question, well, what 1525 01:32:43.399 --> 01:32:46.319 is the information? What's the energy flowing through that template? 1526 01:32:46.479 --> 01:32:48.520 Where did it come from my mom, my dad? Does 1527 01:32:48.560 --> 01:32:51.920 it come outside of me? Is it epigenetic in nature? 1528 01:32:52.119 --> 01:32:56.159 Is it collective consciousness being an expression of you know, 1529 01:32:56.319 --> 01:33:00.720 physical size or temperament, or it just is on forever, 1530 01:33:01.319 --> 01:33:04.319 probably more than we have time to talk about. But 1531 01:33:05.000 --> 01:33:08.439 if we look at that, now we have the ability 1532 01:33:08.560 --> 01:33:13.479 member internal ourselfs using our own energy that we could 1533 01:33:13.680 --> 01:33:19.079 influence whether that gene expresses or not. Well, this is 1534 01:33:19.119 --> 01:33:21.880 similar to what they're trying to do mechanically through the 1535 01:33:22.039 --> 01:33:26.239 crisper technology and the introduction of genes from outside to 1536 01:33:26.359 --> 01:33:30.319 making a change inside us. And so we have outside 1537 01:33:30.399 --> 01:33:34.720 inside and what I work on is inside inside, like 1538 01:33:34.800 --> 01:33:40.279 you can, you can change it yourself. So that's some 1539 01:33:40.359 --> 01:33:42.119 of the things I work on, and teaching some of 1540 01:33:42.119 --> 01:33:43.399 this stuff of the well. 1541 01:33:43.159 --> 01:33:47.840 That's probably you know, dangerous information to introduce, because then 1542 01:33:47.920 --> 01:33:51.359 we won't be relying on pharmaceuticals and in the medical 1543 01:33:51.399 --> 01:33:54.720 industry and Daddy government as much anymore. We can heal ourselves. 1544 01:33:54.720 --> 01:33:58.479 So I'm sure that those ideas are a threat to 1545 01:33:58.520 --> 01:33:59.840 some people out there. 1546 01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:05.159 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. One of the things 1547 01:34:05.199 --> 01:34:11.239 I teach is the concept of a baseline. What's your 1548 01:34:11.319 --> 01:34:16.479 baseline and what that means is like, first of all, 1549 01:34:16.520 --> 01:34:19.000 how you or you? That's one of the basic things. 1550 01:34:19.600 --> 01:34:23.760 And through a process of calibration or being able to 1551 01:34:23.800 --> 01:34:26.760 discern the truth, you can come up with a number 1552 01:34:26.800 --> 01:34:31.079 of like how Randy is Randy? How Chris is Chris? 1553 01:34:31.399 --> 01:34:34.560 But we can extend that again. And once you come 1554 01:34:34.640 --> 01:34:36.319 up with what I call a basic truth, do you 1555 01:34:36.439 --> 01:34:40.520 extend it? So I wrote a little book called why Wait, 1556 01:34:41.520 --> 01:34:43.880 not published. I just give it to my students. But 1557 01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:51.439 baseline your caloric intake, baseline, your caloric expression, how much 1558 01:34:51.520 --> 01:34:56.680 you burn off, And that way you can avoid a 1559 01:34:56.760 --> 01:35:03.199 million different diets that are out there. Because if a 1560 01:35:03.279 --> 01:35:05.319 diet worked, it works for some people, but it didn't 1561 01:35:05.319 --> 01:35:08.920 work for everyone. So that's the subjective nature. That's why 1562 01:35:09.479 --> 01:35:13.560 you need to study yourself, right, how do I take 1563 01:35:13.600 --> 01:35:16.960 in calories? How to burn them? Right? And then if 1564 01:35:16.960 --> 01:35:18.840 you want to make changes, you at least have an 1565 01:35:18.840 --> 01:35:23.159 idea of something to measure from a baseline, right, even 1566 01:35:23.199 --> 01:35:30.039 in your own consciousness. And so back to biohacking, and 1567 01:35:30.039 --> 01:35:35.800 everybody wanted to be younger. Hormones have a big effect 1568 01:35:36.279 --> 01:35:41.600 on how you operate. You know, we could think of 1569 01:35:41.640 --> 01:35:44.840 it as the fuel. It's an additive to whatever fuel 1570 01:35:44.880 --> 01:35:53.199 would take in. So the basic human structure operates off oxygen, carbon, glucose, 1571 01:35:55.239 --> 01:35:59.439 a couple other things, or glad rescriptions. That's it. The 1572 01:35:59.479 --> 01:36:01.760 same thing. You could basically find out where you are 1573 01:36:01.800 --> 01:36:05.560 and then where you can do change that, okay, without 1574 01:36:05.600 --> 01:36:11.000 the need of going to things from outside you. And 1575 01:36:11.520 --> 01:36:15.520 as an example, one of my martial arts teachers was 1576 01:36:15.560 --> 01:36:18.119 in la in the seventies and when he came to 1577 01:36:18.159 --> 01:36:23.880 this country, he opened up Healthy Story, vitamins, supplements and 1578 01:36:24.359 --> 01:36:27.000 one day he said, I realized a second like four 1579 01:36:27.079 --> 01:36:33.640 hundred different supplements in a month. And with realization comes 1580 01:36:33.680 --> 01:36:37.159 the truth. He goes, I realized every one of those 1581 01:36:37.239 --> 01:36:40.720 supplements and vitamins, and here we go. Pharmaceutical is everything 1582 01:36:40.840 --> 01:36:43.680 is written in such a way that you go, oh 1583 01:36:43.800 --> 01:36:48.399 my god. I mean, and then you go around the world. 1584 01:36:49.079 --> 01:36:52.000 People are operating at let's say a high efficiency and 1585 01:36:52.039 --> 01:36:56.880 they're not taking any of that. It's like the nuet 1586 01:36:57.000 --> 01:36:59.359 up in Alaska. There's not a green play that a 1587 01:36:59.399 --> 01:37:03.039 thousand months, yet they have normal vitamin sea levels and 1588 01:37:03.119 --> 01:37:06.560 the set and the other. So so there goes all 1589 01:37:06.640 --> 01:37:07.680 diets out the window. 1590 01:37:08.079 --> 01:37:08.399 Yeah. 1591 01:37:08.479 --> 01:37:11.680 Right, And then the same thing is so, well, if 1592 01:37:11.680 --> 01:37:16.520 you have a metabolic level like when you're sixteen, let's say, 1593 01:37:17.520 --> 01:37:20.800 why don't you have that when you're sixty? And then 1594 01:37:20.880 --> 01:37:23.279 here we go into being able to go through things. 1595 01:37:23.279 --> 01:37:25.680 But again, if you can't discern the truth of it, 1596 01:37:25.720 --> 01:37:27.680 then you have to believe whatever they write down and 1597 01:37:27.720 --> 01:37:33.279 say take this, take that. Ever, so well we're so yeah, 1598 01:37:33.399 --> 01:37:33.760 go ahead. 1599 01:37:33.800 --> 01:37:35.680 I was just going to say, we're living in very 1600 01:37:35.680 --> 01:37:40.079 interesting and encouraging times because this is being realized by people. 1601 01:37:40.159 --> 01:37:42.600 So it makes me happy that people are seeing through 1602 01:37:42.640 --> 01:37:46.920 this and looking for alternatives and listening to folks like self. 1603 01:37:47.159 --> 01:37:49.039 So that's a that's a good thing that we're seeing 1604 01:37:49.119 --> 01:37:51.399 right now. I do want to go back a minute 1605 01:37:51.399 --> 01:37:56.399 to what you were saying about side possible spiritual influences 1606 01:37:56.439 --> 01:37:59.640 that we have to be cautious of these energies that 1607 01:37:59.720 --> 01:38:03.039 could possibly affect us that may not have our best 1608 01:38:03.039 --> 01:38:04.000 interest in mind. 1609 01:38:05.119 --> 01:38:11.039 Oh yeah. There was a third or fourth century Chinese 1610 01:38:11.079 --> 01:38:16.720 flus for Wang Po Okay, and Wang Po wrote the 1611 01:38:16.760 --> 01:38:21.760 following reality is reality. What do you think about reality? 1612 01:38:21.840 --> 01:38:25.920 And how you feel about reality is not reality? And 1613 01:38:26.239 --> 01:38:33.720 welcome to Facebook and Twitter. You're not getting reality, you're 1614 01:38:33.760 --> 01:38:35.880 getting how people think about it and how they feel 1615 01:38:35.880 --> 01:38:40.760 about it, which is highly entertained, right. And so one 1616 01:38:40.800 --> 01:38:45.920 of the things, back to intersections and dimensions. They started 1617 01:38:45.960 --> 01:38:48.920 in and they got up to eleven, and basically the 1618 01:38:48.960 --> 01:38:52.359 conversation got dropped after that. In other words, they came 1619 01:38:52.399 --> 01:38:55.359 to realize that there's a lot more than eleven, which 1620 01:38:55.399 --> 01:38:58.359 is where I was back in the eighties, right, that 1621 01:38:58.399 --> 01:39:03.960 there's more going on here. And the problem is, like 1622 01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:07.319 in the electromagtic spectrum, we occupy such a small portion 1623 01:39:07.439 --> 01:39:13.319 of it, both in our interactions and our receptivity. So 1624 01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:17.840 it doesn't mean the rest of that spectrum doesn't exist, 1625 01:39:18.680 --> 01:39:22.000 but when we go through daily life, most people ignore it. 1626 01:39:22.680 --> 01:39:26.239 They ignore the fact that dogs can hear things that 1627 01:39:26.279 --> 01:39:31.279 we can't, or cats can see things we can't, and 1628 01:39:31.359 --> 01:39:35.720 so those are realities too, but most people don't participate them. 1629 01:39:36.359 --> 01:39:39.039 They don't do things to try to expand their hearing 1630 01:39:39.239 --> 01:39:43.159 or their sensitivity in their different senses. And again that's 1631 01:39:43.199 --> 01:39:45.800 back to martial arts. We were taught all that we 1632 01:39:45.800 --> 01:39:49.119 were taught hot and cold, and you know, up and 1633 01:39:49.159 --> 01:39:52.640 down and this that and the other is exercises to 1634 01:39:52.680 --> 01:39:56.000 be able to develop strength in those areas. In other words, 1635 01:39:56.119 --> 01:39:59.399 being able to be more sensitive. Well, being more sensitive 1636 01:39:59.399 --> 01:40:04.800 is to be more interactive. That's it. So our reality, 1637 01:40:05.359 --> 01:40:09.760 in my thinking, represents about thirty percent of actually what 1638 01:40:09.880 --> 01:40:14.399 goes on. And I think Jay Biden was talking the 1639 01:40:14.479 --> 01:40:17.560 other day about there's a lot more going on around 1640 01:40:17.640 --> 01:40:20.159 us than we're aware of. There's a lot more. We'll 1641 01:40:20.159 --> 01:40:26.359 call them people things, these entities, aliens, spirit, attachments, non 1642 01:40:26.399 --> 01:40:31.199 local consciousness that goes on forever, and people are influenced 1643 01:40:31.199 --> 01:40:36.279 by that. And so all that we learn together is 1644 01:40:36.600 --> 01:40:40.399 I will look together as the field. And I did 1645 01:40:40.399 --> 01:40:43.239 an interview on a book review on asthma the other 1646 01:40:43.319 --> 01:40:48.119 day and the lady asked me, like, well, what's the field? 1647 01:40:48.520 --> 01:40:50.920 And I said, well, nobody's really defined it, but I will. 1648 01:40:51.359 --> 01:40:54.560 And that is all information, all energy, all information, all 1649 01:40:54.600 --> 01:41:02.000 consciousness combined. So well that opens up everything that comes 1650 01:41:02.039 --> 01:41:05.720 to you comes a field that you don't originate it. 1651 01:41:06.720 --> 01:41:10.600 You just become a contact remember the intersection for that 1652 01:41:10.720 --> 01:41:15.520 information because it already exists. And that gets into a 1653 01:41:15.520 --> 01:41:19.399 whole bunch of things from remote viewing, the Tesla and 1654 01:41:19.439 --> 01:41:20.239 everybody else. 1655 01:41:20.479 --> 01:41:22.720 So we just have like a built in antenna or 1656 01:41:22.840 --> 01:41:25.920 receiver to access yeah. 1657 01:41:25.720 --> 01:41:30.520 Right, And remember when we were younger, we just had 1658 01:41:30.560 --> 01:41:35.760 local sessions, three of them and we went off the 1659 01:41:35.800 --> 01:41:42.640 air at midnight. And that's not true anymore. And that 1660 01:41:42.720 --> 01:41:47.039 gets into the fact that in the nineteen hundreds there 1661 01:41:47.039 --> 01:41:50.439 was only one or two electromagnetic influences on a human 1662 01:41:50.520 --> 01:41:55.239 being outside we'll call it. That was the Sun and 1663 01:41:55.560 --> 01:41:59.800 maybe we had telegraph And so if you look at 1664 01:41:59.840 --> 01:42:03.079 him and evolution, we're not geared like right now, there's 1665 01:42:03.079 --> 01:42:09.279 about seventy four electromagnetic waves propagating through the space on 1666 01:42:09.439 --> 01:42:15.359 in it's a microwave, that's TV, it's radiant, it's on 1667 01:42:15.399 --> 01:42:19.279 and on and on. Well, human beings don't adapt that fast. 1668 01:42:19.800 --> 01:42:24.279 It takes generations to adapt to that. And so this 1669 01:42:24.439 --> 01:42:29.239 continuity that occurs, to withdrawal, the non participation in those 1670 01:42:30.600 --> 01:42:35.479 fields that information results in a certain amount of apathy. 1671 01:42:35.880 --> 01:42:37.920 And I think that's kind of what we see around 1672 01:42:37.920 --> 01:42:42.199 the world. We've been hit with so much information. And 1673 01:42:42.960 --> 01:42:47.239 remember in the sixties, information came from a book or 1674 01:42:47.359 --> 01:42:51.920 couple of hours of TV, and now we're trying to 1675 01:42:52.399 --> 01:42:55.520 up our operating speed, is what I call it. So 1676 01:42:57.239 --> 01:42:58.479 and there's ways to do that. 1677 01:42:58.880 --> 01:43:01.079 Yeah, I was about to ask you, let's get into 1678 01:43:01.159 --> 01:43:02.560 some of those methods. 1679 01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:07.880 Well, one of them is kind of like we call 1680 01:43:07.920 --> 01:43:14.520 a hierarchical assignment. Is why is that important to you? Okay? 1681 01:43:15.119 --> 01:43:17.199 I mean if you take all of Facebook and Twitter 1682 01:43:17.319 --> 01:43:21.159 and whatever, all the others, Instagram, whatever, and you look 1683 01:43:21.199 --> 01:43:25.880 at that information, you say, why is it important? One 1684 01:43:25.880 --> 01:43:27.960 of my favorites, there was a guy that said a 1685 01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:31.960 lot of studied UFOs for twenty five years, and I say, 1686 01:43:32.039 --> 01:43:34.000 and I know all these people. It was going on 1687 01:43:34.039 --> 01:43:36.119 and on and on, and at the end of it, 1688 01:43:36.159 --> 01:43:39.520 I go, has that made you a better person? Have 1689 01:43:39.640 --> 01:43:42.439 you benefited from that? I know it's given you things 1690 01:43:42.439 --> 01:43:46.520 to talk about and relate to people, and you know 1691 01:43:46.880 --> 01:43:49.920 people don't use some sort of base level. Does this 1692 01:43:50.119 --> 01:43:54.199 benefit me? Right, considering the amount of time I've spent 1693 01:43:54.319 --> 01:43:56.760 on it? Because if you spend an hour a day 1694 01:43:57.000 --> 01:43:59.960 for three years straight, you're going to be more knowledg 1695 01:44:00.199 --> 01:44:04.199 well than the typical PhD out there on any specific subject. 1696 01:44:05.199 --> 01:44:10.439 And so four hours a day of interacting with your 1697 01:44:10.560 --> 01:44:14.479 iPhone is actually not going to produce that change. Right, 1698 01:44:15.319 --> 01:44:17.720 it's actually a stagnation, that is what I call it. 1699 01:44:17.920 --> 01:44:21.239 So if that makes sense, So you can learn all 1700 01:44:21.279 --> 01:44:27.479 that through medicine. Martial arts is a better teacher of it. 1701 01:44:27.880 --> 01:44:31.760 I studying talkt K for about forty years because the 1702 01:44:31.840 --> 01:44:37.159 exercise are meant to develop skills other than physical and 1703 01:44:37.640 --> 01:44:43.680 the physical and the non physical. The intuitive is a 1704 01:44:43.880 --> 01:44:50.439 much better tool to interact with the world, and so. 1705 01:44:50.680 --> 01:44:55.800 We those can offer methods that will counteract these negative 1706 01:44:55.960 --> 01:45:00.279 frequencies and energies that are surrounding us and possibly allow 1707 01:45:00.399 --> 01:45:04.600 us to have access to those frequencies and realms that 1708 01:45:04.680 --> 01:45:05.640 we can't perceive. 1709 01:45:06.640 --> 01:45:10.680 Yes, one of the things to have. Let's say, a 1710 01:45:10.760 --> 01:45:13.279 baby when they're born has a fifty foot energy field 1711 01:45:13.960 --> 01:45:15.640 and by the time you're twenty one year down to 1712 01:45:15.680 --> 01:45:19.239 three feet or less depending on your drugs. And I'll 1713 01:45:19.239 --> 01:45:23.359 caholing this, that and the other. So doing prodiga ama, 1714 01:45:23.479 --> 01:45:27.680 theoga and meditative type things, martial arts specifically, you can 1715 01:45:27.760 --> 01:45:31.359 generate that bigger energy field. Again. Now, some people are 1716 01:45:31.359 --> 01:45:34.239 born with it automatically. We call them charismatics, and people 1717 01:45:34.279 --> 01:45:36.560 want to be around them. We call them energy vampires. 1718 01:45:38.079 --> 01:45:44.239 The current languages call them followers. So because they want energy, 1719 01:45:44.279 --> 01:45:48.039 you have that they don't. You have more energy, and 1720 01:45:48.119 --> 01:45:50.680 so that's the reason they want to be around you. 1721 01:45:52.119 --> 01:45:57.039 You think it's because you're good looking or something, and 1722 01:45:57.359 --> 01:46:01.560 it's not true. The universe really is an energy universe 1723 01:46:02.079 --> 01:46:05.159 and everything goes on as energy exchange. I call them 1724 01:46:05.199 --> 01:46:10.000 injergy equations. So to be around somebody, to eat, somebody 1725 01:46:10.239 --> 01:46:15.840 eat something, to engage in conversation is an equation, and 1726 01:46:15.880 --> 01:46:19.079 you would benefit or be drained by it, plus or mind. 1727 01:46:19.359 --> 01:46:21.600 It's the same thing for diet, it's the same thing 1728 01:46:21.640 --> 01:46:27.760 for basically everything. Right now, how interactive, Well, if you 1729 01:46:27.800 --> 01:46:29.960 can clear a nine foot infield, you're basically going to 1730 01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:34.199 be unaffected by coals, flu a whole bunch of things. 1731 01:46:34.760 --> 01:46:38.720 Even if you were to participate in that, you would 1732 01:46:38.720 --> 01:46:41.399 recover faster than somebody had no energy field or a 1733 01:46:41.399 --> 01:46:45.479 one foot energy field. So if you had a skill, 1734 01:46:45.880 --> 01:46:48.359 having a big energy field out to thirty forty feet 1735 01:46:48.680 --> 01:46:54.439 becomes a real game changer. Now, if you control that space, 1736 01:46:54.560 --> 01:46:57.520 think of it that way. My consciousness and habits or 1737 01:46:57.560 --> 01:47:02.199 in our whole space, Well, that means is denied to 1738 01:47:02.560 --> 01:47:07.720 enter these spirit attachments, demons, jen non local conscience. It 1739 01:47:07.760 --> 01:47:12.119 goes onever and the reason I know one of my 1740 01:47:12.199 --> 01:47:17.640 yoga teachers did yoga to retreat one time and he said, 1741 01:47:17.720 --> 01:47:20.680 I'm going to show you something and there are four 1742 01:47:20.720 --> 01:47:25.399 hundred people there and he controlled the space. And what 1743 01:47:25.439 --> 01:47:29.039 that meant was everything that was attached to your parents, 1744 01:47:29.680 --> 01:47:34.000 your grandparents, any kind of entities or demons or whatever 1745 01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:37.960 you want to call it. He basically held in abeyance abeyance. 1746 01:47:38.079 --> 01:47:40.800 He held them out of our field for about a 1747 01:47:41.159 --> 01:47:44.720 minute to two minutes, and it was the most phenomenal 1748 01:47:44.720 --> 01:47:50.000 thing in the world. Is literally like being a lower gravity, right. 1749 01:47:50.439 --> 01:47:55.159 He just felt like wow, he felt expansive, Okay, And 1750 01:47:55.840 --> 01:47:57.720 at the end of the time he collapsed the field 1751 01:47:58.039 --> 01:48:00.960 and it was a pretty day and immediately there was 1752 01:48:01.039 --> 01:48:04.720 like a thunderclap and lightning and hailstorm and everything else 1753 01:48:05.159 --> 01:48:09.840 as that field collapse back in So quantum physics field 1754 01:48:09.880 --> 01:48:15.800 collapse every moment represents quantum collapse. And so now we 1755 01:48:15.880 --> 01:48:18.680 get to a really important thing. The world is perfect 1756 01:48:18.760 --> 01:48:21.479 at every given moment. Quantum physics sells us that by 1757 01:48:21.560 --> 01:48:24.079 quantum collapse, if it could have been different, it would 1758 01:48:24.079 --> 01:48:28.000 have been different. So it can only go from perfection 1759 01:48:28.199 --> 01:48:33.039 to perfection, no matter how much people don't like that idea, Okay, 1760 01:48:35.119 --> 01:48:37.680 but it does give you back to a baseline. It 1761 01:48:37.680 --> 01:48:40.399 gives you a place to start, so at any given 1762 01:48:40.399 --> 01:48:43.680 point in your life, you can start. That's the most 1763 01:48:43.680 --> 01:48:47.119 important thing. You can start by applying yourself to any 1764 01:48:47.199 --> 01:48:51.319 kind of discipline or information or pursuit that will result 1765 01:48:51.439 --> 01:48:54.840 in not just you being better. But then I call 1766 01:48:54.880 --> 01:48:57.319 it not being a burden on the universe. Is that 1767 01:48:57.720 --> 01:48:59.720 you then have the ability to help others. 1768 01:49:00.199 --> 01:49:05.760 So yes, yes, I love it. I want to get 1769 01:49:05.800 --> 01:49:09.720 your thoughts on a sort of spiritual I don't want 1770 01:49:09.720 --> 01:49:13.800 to say argument, but two different schools of belief. One 1771 01:49:13.920 --> 01:49:18.079 is that we are able to access other forms of 1772 01:49:18.119 --> 01:49:21.479 life through the universe by space travel and going travel 1773 01:49:21.479 --> 01:49:25.399 to planets. The other one is that the real universe 1774 01:49:25.600 --> 01:49:29.319 is the innerverse, and it's basically for us to access 1775 01:49:29.399 --> 01:49:33.319 through ourselves, and it is the the realms that's around 1776 01:49:33.399 --> 01:49:36.119 us at all times that we can't perceive. And I 1777 01:49:36.159 --> 01:49:38.680 want to get your thoughts on that is there. Do 1778 01:49:38.720 --> 01:49:41.600 you believe that there is life outside of of our 1779 01:49:41.640 --> 01:49:43.920 planet in the universe in the traditional sense or do 1780 01:49:43.960 --> 01:49:47.600 you think it is more of layers and layers of reality. 1781 01:49:49.680 --> 01:49:57.359 Yes, both both they are when you do remote viewing, 1782 01:49:57.640 --> 01:50:03.840 or what to call gos surfing, the universe, the field 1783 01:50:04.399 --> 01:50:08.079 you come across information sets. This gets into set theory 1784 01:50:08.119 --> 01:50:11.039 and a book I've been working on for five years 1785 01:50:11.039 --> 01:50:17.840 called Approximate Reality. Your reality is very limited. It's you 1786 01:50:17.920 --> 01:50:23.560 don't exist in Dallas, Texas at the moment, right, So 1787 01:50:23.600 --> 01:50:26.479 we want to provide a benefit to people. Let's say 1788 01:50:26.520 --> 01:50:32.520 I'm in Oklahoma and head to Dallas. When I start, 1789 01:50:32.840 --> 01:50:36.079 let's say ninety nine percent in Oklahoma, one percent in Dallas. 1790 01:50:36.359 --> 01:50:38.800 But there's a quantum switch that occurs at some point 1791 01:50:38.840 --> 01:50:43.439 along that journey where I'm basically nineteen percent in Dallas 1792 01:50:43.560 --> 01:50:47.800 and only one percent in Oklahoma, let's say, and that 1793 01:50:47.920 --> 01:50:51.199 occurs at like maybe ten or twenty percent into the trip. 1794 01:50:52.039 --> 01:50:55.199 It doesn't occur like where it flips over and I'm 1795 01:50:55.239 --> 01:51:00.239 immediately in Dallas. Does that make sense, right? So what 1796 01:51:00.319 --> 01:51:04.479 happens is my consciousness has already occupied the space of Dallas, 1797 01:51:04.680 --> 01:51:08.720 we'll call it where I'm going. And when I discovered this, 1798 01:51:08.840 --> 01:51:12.239 I always play with things. I discovered that one of 1799 01:51:12.239 --> 01:51:14.960 the things that happens when you travel, like on a motorcycle, 1800 01:51:15.079 --> 01:51:19.039 car or jet plane. Your energy field streams out behind you, 1801 01:51:19.960 --> 01:51:22.319 and when you get to wherever you're going, you have 1802 01:51:22.479 --> 01:51:27.680 what's called jetlag. Right, everybody's familiar with it. So one 1803 01:51:27.680 --> 01:51:29.880 of the things I discovered is I could project my 1804 01:51:30.039 --> 01:51:34.279 energy field ahead of me, not behind me. Projected ahead 1805 01:51:34.319 --> 01:51:36.520 of me, go ahead and put it in dubtless and 1806 01:51:36.560 --> 01:51:38.600 when I'm arrive and that's guess what, I've just caught 1807 01:51:38.680 --> 01:51:41.000 up to myself and I have no jet lag. So 1808 01:51:41.079 --> 01:51:43.399 I fly all over the world. I don't have jetlink 1809 01:51:43.840 --> 01:51:46.399 right now, how do you do that? It's just a 1810 01:51:46.399 --> 01:51:50.279 matter of practicing, thinking about yourself, thinking about your energy 1811 01:51:50.319 --> 01:51:53.159 feel and go ahead and place in it somewhere else. Oh, 1812 01:51:53.199 --> 01:51:58.039 it placed your consciousness on somebody or something. That's quantum physics. 1813 01:51:58.039 --> 01:52:01.039 Because you start having an influence on that, you start 1814 01:52:01.159 --> 01:52:06.119 having a presence. And so there's something for people that fly. 1815 01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:10.039 You can try that and work out it. You'll be 1816 01:52:10.119 --> 01:52:13.000 surprised what you get to a long trip and you're 1817 01:52:13.039 --> 01:52:13.560 not tired. 1818 01:52:14.520 --> 01:52:16.680 So now I want to get to some of the 1819 01:52:16.720 --> 01:52:20.439 other techniques that you were mentioning. One of them Kundalini yoga. 1820 01:52:20.640 --> 01:52:23.680 But something else that caught my ear. You you mentioned 1821 01:52:23.680 --> 01:52:27.119 the Gin. And I've heard these entity spoken about a 1822 01:52:27.239 --> 01:52:29.600 couple of times on my show from different guests, and 1823 01:52:29.640 --> 01:52:32.720 I want to get your understanding of what these what 1824 01:52:32.760 --> 01:52:33.520 these are. 1825 01:52:35.600 --> 01:52:42.920 Non local consciousness okay, non local member Dallas, it doesn't exist, well, 1826 01:52:43.000 --> 01:52:48.840 it exists as an identifier as a location. And this 1827 01:52:48.920 --> 01:52:57.720 is where an intersection becomes better information identification than dimension. Okay. 1828 01:52:58.359 --> 01:53:02.199 So when you saying earlier, like are the physical beings, yes, 1829 01:53:02.279 --> 01:53:06.880 their physical beings out in the universe. Are there beings 1830 01:53:06.920 --> 01:53:12.600 that exist in what we would call a non material universe? Yes, okay, 1831 01:53:13.159 --> 01:53:16.560 So di Gin operate in a non material universe. So 1832 01:53:16.640 --> 01:53:20.560 does the astra lower astral. Like just if you go 1833 01:53:20.680 --> 01:53:25.359 through the esoteric texts, you can find millions of them. 1834 01:53:25.880 --> 01:53:29.239 Tiger Spain by sirih Paul Twitchell. Listen, I think four 1835 01:53:29.279 --> 01:53:37.239 thousand of them, domains, universes, kingdoms, and we have that 1836 01:53:37.359 --> 01:53:41.199 language come through us with l and you know all 1837 01:53:41.239 --> 01:53:45.079 these different the fairies, the little people in native American language, 1838 01:53:45.640 --> 01:53:50.000 that is existing, but they don't exactly exist in our reality. 1839 01:53:50.560 --> 01:53:54.319 So this is getting wrapped around that Dallas doesn't exist 1840 01:53:54.439 --> 01:54:00.000 unless you're in Dallas. Okay, local reality, So Gin operate 1841 01:54:00.079 --> 01:54:05.319 right as an operating conscious. Well, if you exist for 1842 01:54:05.439 --> 01:54:10.079 hundreds or thousand years instead of our seventy, which is restriction, 1843 01:54:10.960 --> 01:54:14.920 then you might develop the skill to be interactive, not 1844 01:54:15.039 --> 01:54:18.399 just in a non material fashion, but in a material fashion. 1845 01:54:19.520 --> 01:54:25.680 And all those interactions we have determined as being demonic 1846 01:54:25.760 --> 01:54:29.039 for the most part, although we sit around and talk 1847 01:54:29.079 --> 01:54:34.119 about the reciprocal which is angels. Okay, So, and all 1848 01:54:34.159 --> 01:54:37.800 of them are described to have certain powers. Well, power 1849 01:54:37.880 --> 01:54:43.159 is just the ability to focus energy. When you can 1850 01:54:43.199 --> 01:54:46.960 focus energy, if you develop that skill, or if you 1851 01:54:47.359 --> 01:54:52.239 become what it called mono minded, then if you die, 1852 01:54:52.359 --> 01:54:55.920 you can still you know, knock on wood around, you know, 1853 01:54:56.279 --> 01:54:59.319 people you've been related to, or appear as an apparition 1854 01:54:59.640 --> 01:55:03.000 or things like that. So apparition, if we look at 1855 01:55:03.000 --> 01:55:07.199 it like a jin is not exactly physical, but they're 1856 01:55:07.199 --> 01:55:13.199 not exactly non physical. What they become is become interactive. Okay. 1857 01:55:14.039 --> 01:55:18.439 So there's people more interactive than others. We call them 1858 01:55:18.720 --> 01:55:23.800 what do you call it? Psychics? Seans people. This has 1859 01:55:23.800 --> 01:55:26.880 been going one thousand years. It's just that when science 1860 01:55:26.960 --> 01:55:29.680 came along and became the new religion, we got rid 1861 01:55:29.680 --> 01:55:32.319 of the old religions. We got rid of the old 1862 01:55:32.319 --> 01:55:37.359 religions that said that somebody has schizophrenia had entities, right, 1863 01:55:37.720 --> 01:55:40.159 they had spirits in them, and there would be like 1864 01:55:40.199 --> 01:55:44.760 in the Native American Novajo, have a blessing way, have 1865 01:55:44.960 --> 01:55:48.399 some way to get that out of that person, to 1866 01:55:48.520 --> 01:55:52.840 break that connection. And I'll put it in modern terms, 1867 01:55:52.880 --> 01:55:55.319 if you've ever been married and divorced, you might need 1868 01:55:55.359 --> 01:55:56.319 to break that connection. 1869 01:55:57.760 --> 01:56:01.039 So I think that these outside influences were talking about earlier, 1870 01:56:01.119 --> 01:56:06.239 like different harmful frequencies, and not only that, substances drugs 1871 01:56:06.279 --> 01:56:09.039 can actually attract some of the entities. 1872 01:56:10.600 --> 01:56:13.239 Well, actually what they do is open you up. So 1873 01:56:13.439 --> 01:56:15.279 if you look at like a nine foot inters view 1874 01:56:15.439 --> 01:56:18.640 as a sphere, what if it has an opening. What 1875 01:56:18.720 --> 01:56:21.079 if you've done marijuana, hard drugs, this, that and the other, 1876 01:56:21.199 --> 01:56:24.840 knocked in the head, high fevers, All those represent openings 1877 01:56:24.840 --> 01:56:28.680 that allow that information or energy to come into you. Okay, 1878 01:56:29.279 --> 01:56:34.439 And and people like I love things like the atauasca. Right. 1879 01:56:35.159 --> 01:56:38.720 It's like when that first started as a craze, I 1880 01:56:38.800 --> 01:56:41.720 got calls from London to Europe all over the world 1881 01:56:41.760 --> 01:56:47.119 going help. Once you get in and open up something 1882 01:56:47.159 --> 01:56:51.359 like that, you don't have the information, energy, education ability 1883 01:56:51.399 --> 01:56:53.479 to deal with it. And of course that's one of 1884 01:56:53.520 --> 01:56:56.479 the things I was trained in. So I'm able to 1885 01:56:56.520 --> 01:57:03.039 help those people that open up a connection. Right, think 1886 01:57:03.039 --> 01:57:05.760 about having the ghost in your house. I get rid 1887 01:57:05.800 --> 01:57:07.920 of them. I used to have a nice little business 1888 01:57:07.920 --> 01:57:12.520 of de ghosts and houses because all it means is 1889 01:57:12.560 --> 01:57:15.880 something else is living in that space. Well, now we 1890 01:57:15.920 --> 01:57:18.439 go back to a human being. How many things are 1891 01:57:18.479 --> 01:57:21.760 living in your space? Right? Are you a many? Me? 1892 01:57:22.039 --> 01:57:24.640 Your mom or dad? Right, that's your mom or dad 1893 01:57:24.680 --> 01:57:28.239 living in you or through you. And you know, if 1894 01:57:28.239 --> 01:57:31.279 you're made to be Chris, then I want you to 1895 01:57:31.319 --> 01:57:35.880 be Chris. No entities, no spirit, none of the no 1896 01:57:36.039 --> 01:57:41.319 connections right, zero. And now you're in an innery state 1897 01:57:41.399 --> 01:57:43.840 where you can say, hey, I can actually benefit myself. 1898 01:57:43.840 --> 01:57:48.199 At this point, you can increase your energy, you can 1899 01:57:48.399 --> 01:57:52.079 increase your residence of being Chris. And at that point 1900 01:57:52.159 --> 01:57:56.479 you're able to influence connect with other people and a 1901 01:57:56.640 --> 01:58:01.800 much much more energetic way. We'll just say, like I said, 1902 01:58:01.840 --> 01:58:05.079 the language is trying to invent the language of it. 1903 01:58:05.199 --> 01:58:12.000 That's when we borrow culture, appropriation, quantity, physics things. Right, So. 1904 01:58:13.720 --> 01:58:16.600 Would you consider these this is kind of a two 1905 01:58:16.640 --> 01:58:19.520 part question. Would you consider these part of what is 1906 01:58:19.600 --> 01:58:23.840 considered source or or or creation or God? And what's 1907 01:58:23.880 --> 01:58:25.880 your idea of what source is? 1908 01:58:28.960 --> 01:58:32.680 Remember that I use the field definition all information, all energy, 1909 01:58:32.720 --> 01:58:38.479 all consciousness when you separate it, and that's a human 1910 01:58:38.600 --> 01:58:44.600 thing to pigeonhole, to put a box. As soon as 1911 01:58:44.600 --> 01:58:50.439 you identify thing, you have limited the amount of information 1912 01:58:50.560 --> 01:58:56.279 available to you about that subject. I know, this gets 1913 01:58:56.359 --> 01:59:01.560 really entangled, right. So if you say God, I say 1914 01:59:01.600 --> 01:59:06.640 which one? Then presently on the planet there's about four 1915 01:59:06.720 --> 01:59:09.520 thousand and thirty one of them. I think last saw 1916 01:59:09.640 --> 01:59:14.880 my checked. Okay, So, but everybody knows what they're talking about. 1917 01:59:17.680 --> 01:59:20.279 It's just that you can stand to the next to 1918 01:59:20.359 --> 01:59:24.760 another person and they do not have the same exact information. 1919 01:59:25.159 --> 01:59:28.960 That's order themouts see. So and of course the last 1920 01:59:28.960 --> 01:59:32.199 time we talked, that's where I said, believe is insufficient. Right. 1921 01:59:32.319 --> 01:59:38.600 Knowing this as an absolute so without getting into rock 1922 01:59:38.640 --> 01:59:46.560 and roll. So so, knowing God more important than my 1923 01:59:46.720 --> 01:59:48.279 God is what I call it. 1924 01:59:49.439 --> 01:59:53.960 So say they are a separation from that energy field. 1925 01:59:54.920 --> 01:59:57.760 What you're doing is identifying with something outside of you. Again, 1926 02:00:00.520 --> 02:00:04.359 one of the language one of the meditations and uh 1927 02:00:04.680 --> 02:00:08.119 is in Korea yoga is God in me and being 1928 02:00:08.199 --> 02:00:13.880 God are won. So to identify yourself as God becomes 1929 02:00:13.920 --> 02:00:19.479 egotistical unless you're running for political office. But uh, you 1930 02:00:19.520 --> 02:00:23.319 know it's uh, but it's a way to eliminate the 1931 02:00:23.960 --> 02:00:28.359 separation that occurs. And what it gives way to is 1932 02:00:28.399 --> 02:00:33.159 what we call hierarchical dominance, right uh, in this case spiritual. 1933 02:00:33.920 --> 02:00:37.560 And so to recognize that which is above you is 1934 02:00:38.520 --> 02:00:43.359 what I call arbitrary. It's a better language than above 1935 02:00:43.439 --> 02:00:50.199 is beyond. So now in which direction, well direction goes 1936 02:00:50.279 --> 02:00:54.960 away and instead we become what we call either inclusive 1937 02:00:55.079 --> 02:01:01.159 or exclusive of that information, that person, that identity, those events, 1938 02:01:03.800 --> 02:01:06.359 Like I said, it takes a long time to go 1939 02:01:06.439 --> 02:01:11.960 through all of it. So when you deal with gods, 1940 02:01:14.720 --> 02:01:20.119 the original language was gods were the intersection with humans, 1941 02:01:20.600 --> 02:01:24.199 and then there were lords that were abouts, and then 1942 02:01:24.239 --> 02:01:28.720 there were kings that were above lords. You see, so 1943 02:01:29.079 --> 02:01:31.439 you say God bless you, and they say Lord bless me, 1944 02:01:31.479 --> 02:01:34.520 and then you say, King gives me permission to be blessed. 1945 02:01:34.640 --> 02:01:40.800 I guess. So you see all this as remnants throughout 1946 02:01:40.800 --> 02:01:46.760 our society, because society has changed where God played an 1947 02:01:46.800 --> 02:01:50.000 important part. Let's say in the year one thy eleven 1948 02:01:50.079 --> 02:01:56.079 or thirteen fourteen, and then the resonant residence of Renaissance became. 1949 02:01:57.239 --> 02:01:59.920 Things started in a way from what I call the 1950 02:02:00.359 --> 02:02:07.079 non material right, So that's where we get our current religion, 1951 02:02:07.079 --> 02:02:12.119 which is called science, right right, believe the science, Oh 1952 02:02:12.159 --> 02:02:18.439 my goodness, trust? Well, trust means that you're basically lazy. 1953 02:02:18.560 --> 02:02:20.800 So why I look at it not willing to care. 1954 02:02:21.880 --> 02:02:27.840 But those are some ideas, and again, what you think 1955 02:02:27.880 --> 02:02:29.920 about it and how you feel about it, it's not reality. 1956 02:02:30.079 --> 02:02:32.439 The reality of what I just said is maybe ther 1957 02:02:32.720 --> 02:02:36.359 but it doesn't require you to have an emotional response 1958 02:02:36.520 --> 02:02:39.520 or anything. It's just something that you can play with. 1959 02:02:39.840 --> 02:02:42.520 And I think that's one of the things that appears 1960 02:02:42.560 --> 02:02:44.960 to be lost is what I call a sense of humor. 1961 02:02:45.600 --> 02:02:49.880 And they're willing to play with an idea, right, And 1962 02:02:50.439 --> 02:02:52.319 if you can play with it, you can take it 1963 02:02:52.359 --> 02:02:55.279 and turn it around, look it upside down and see 1964 02:02:55.680 --> 02:02:59.039 and eventually you can come to some idea whether or 1965 02:02:59.079 --> 02:03:01.920 not that was fun. That's that's the way I look 1966 02:03:01.960 --> 02:03:02.199 at it. 1967 02:03:02.680 --> 02:03:07.880 That seems like open discussion and agreeing to disagree is 1968 02:03:07.920 --> 02:03:08.880 a lost art. 1969 02:03:09.119 --> 02:03:12.159 You know, yes, yes, remember what you think about it 1970 02:03:12.199 --> 02:03:15.760 and how you feel about it's not reality. So so 1971 02:03:16.039 --> 02:03:20.439 reality can be played with. That's that's what we're getting at. 1972 02:03:21.279 --> 02:03:25.199 Can you stand up and become interactive with reality? Well, 1973 02:03:25.800 --> 02:03:29.880 here you go with all these spiritual help people and 1974 02:03:30.159 --> 02:03:33.159 telling you you can manifest reality. Right. 1975 02:03:33.319 --> 02:03:35.520 I was just about to get into what you consider 1976 02:03:36.159 --> 02:03:38.720 manifestation while we're going into these realms. 1977 02:03:39.760 --> 02:03:46.079 So basically it's not true. It sounds good, okay, and 1978 02:03:46.640 --> 02:03:49.000 pay me four hundred dollars and I'll teach a young 1979 02:03:49.079 --> 02:03:52.399 manifest reality. And of course it doesn't happen. And and 1980 02:03:52.439 --> 02:03:54.640 the reason is in quantum physics. Will get into a 1981 02:03:54.720 --> 02:03:58.520 very simple thing. Is what you're trying to manifest or 1982 02:03:58.560 --> 02:04:03.039 achieve of the A very simple question. Right, you're in 1983 02:04:03.039 --> 02:04:05.319 the middle of desert, I'm going to manifest ice cream. 1984 02:04:05.760 --> 02:04:10.119 No you're not. It's unavailable to you. You see what 1985 02:04:10.119 --> 02:04:14.079 I mean. And that's just one of the aspects is 1986 02:04:14.079 --> 02:04:17.960 what I call it a manifestation, right, is do you 1987 02:04:18.000 --> 02:04:22.119 have enough energy? Can you apply that energy as a force, 1988 02:04:22.840 --> 02:04:28.119 right in order to shape reality? Well, if you can, 1989 02:04:28.520 --> 02:04:31.520 first of all, i'd love to meet you, right, because 1990 02:04:31.560 --> 02:04:34.439 I've found very few people that are able to do that. 1991 02:04:35.159 --> 02:04:38.880 One of them was a nasty christianistic I mean, this 1992 02:04:38.960 --> 02:04:43.920 boy was good he could, He could literally manifest things, 1993 02:04:44.199 --> 02:04:46.439 but he did it in a very specific area, and 1994 02:04:46.479 --> 02:04:49.520 that was with plants. He could make plants grow to 1995 02:04:49.680 --> 02:04:53.880 ten feet tall, you know. And I've seen this firsthand. 1996 02:04:54.399 --> 02:05:00.920 So that's an application. If you see healers there, I 1997 02:05:01.000 --> 02:05:04.199 don't think they're really manifesting so much as they're unmanifesting 1998 02:05:04.239 --> 02:05:07.560 that which has been given to you participate in. If 1999 02:05:07.600 --> 02:05:11.560 you have an illness, then the extra energy allows you 2000 02:05:11.600 --> 02:05:16.079 to recover faster. So go back to pharmaceuticals. Let me 2001 02:05:16.119 --> 02:05:18.920 get this straight. I take this little bitty pill, and 2002 02:05:18.960 --> 02:05:22.960 this little bild pill is able to basically influence two 2003 02:05:23.039 --> 02:05:28.439 hundred and fifty pounds of hands us right in a 2004 02:05:28.479 --> 02:05:32.319 way that makes me healthier. And so just write down 2005 02:05:32.359 --> 02:05:35.800 those three or four things I said and run through 2006 02:05:35.800 --> 02:05:37.680 it a bunch of times in your head, and you go, 2007 02:05:37.720 --> 02:05:42.159 there isn't any way possible that that's true, right without 2008 02:05:42.279 --> 02:05:45.399 the participation of my own consciousness that think I'm going 2009 02:05:45.439 --> 02:05:51.239 to be better. Okay, So that is manifesting, Okay, using 2010 02:05:51.399 --> 02:05:58.479 something outside you as a catalyst as an influence and 2011 02:05:58.560 --> 02:06:04.560 so and then God serves a purpose, Then pharmacygicals serve 2012 02:06:04.600 --> 02:06:08.159 a purpose. So we don't have to demonize all of 2013 02:06:08.199 --> 02:06:10.119 it when we understand the relationship. 2014 02:06:10.920 --> 02:06:17.000 Okay, so right now that does Now you were mentioning, 2015 02:06:17.039 --> 02:06:21.880 you know, unfortunately the spiritual community waters have been muddied 2016 02:06:21.920 --> 02:06:25.199 a bit by just people looking for monetary gain or 2017 02:06:25.279 --> 02:06:28.159 notoriety and things of this nature, and they're just throwing 2018 02:06:28.199 --> 02:06:29.560 all kind of weird stuff out there. 2019 02:06:29.800 --> 02:06:30.920 Well, one of. 2020 02:06:30.840 --> 02:06:34.199 The things you mentioned earlier was kundalini yoga, and I 2021 02:06:34.279 --> 02:06:37.319 know there's this, of course, a huge woo wu stigma 2022 02:06:37.399 --> 02:06:40.560 with yoga in general. And then when you add terms 2023 02:06:40.600 --> 02:06:43.159 like cundalini, where a lot of people might not have 2024 02:06:43.680 --> 02:06:46.920 a great understanding of what this means, you know, it 2025 02:06:47.199 --> 02:06:51.319 kind of it may get lost in understanding sometimes between 2026 02:06:51.359 --> 02:06:53.439 a lot of people who are trying to understand this. 2027 02:06:53.840 --> 02:06:58.600 But what is your understanding of kundalini and in kundalini yoga? 2028 02:06:59.640 --> 02:07:05.079 Okay? I first started in the early seventies, started teaching 2029 02:07:05.119 --> 02:07:08.199 around c. Three or four, and I've taught kunelin and 2030 02:07:08.279 --> 02:07:13.840 yoga basically ever since. I used to have for many years, 2031 02:07:13.880 --> 02:07:17.079 almost a decade. I taught three times a week. Okay. 2032 02:07:19.039 --> 02:07:21.680 The reason I taught it because it worked for me. 2033 02:07:23.359 --> 02:07:28.920 That's everybody all do this, do that? Remember like that diets. 2034 02:07:28.960 --> 02:07:32.239 If it worked for you, great, but it doesn't mean 2035 02:07:32.319 --> 02:07:36.520 it works for everybody. Okay. So that's the first thing 2036 02:07:36.600 --> 02:07:39.880 is there's no perfection in like doing this as opposed 2037 02:07:39.880 --> 02:07:44.119 to doing that. There's no cachet of like, oh I 2038 02:07:44.159 --> 02:07:47.199 do kundany yoga, I do Jngar yoga, I do Korea yoga. 2039 02:07:47.239 --> 02:07:51.920 I do you know? I mean there's dozens literally at yoga. Okay, 2040 02:07:53.119 --> 02:07:56.760 Kunelina yoga is what we call it eight limbs all combined. 2041 02:07:57.000 --> 02:08:03.239 It's basically all yogasperienced in one set of exercises or meditations. 2042 02:08:04.880 --> 02:08:07.560 So if you spend say two and a half hours 2043 02:08:07.560 --> 02:08:14.159 in hat yoga body postures, Baptiste taught it. There's a 2044 02:08:14.159 --> 02:08:18.880 bunch of people that taught Hatha yoga. But when you 2045 02:08:18.920 --> 02:08:25.680 start applying a focus, a consciousness, a mantra, a breathing pronama, 2046 02:08:27.119 --> 02:08:30.760 focuses Roger yoga, you combine it, you get a much 2047 02:08:30.920 --> 02:08:34.840 different experience. And this is one of the things I 2048 02:08:34.880 --> 02:08:39.359 was talking about, Like, you're not able to hold a thought. 2049 02:08:40.000 --> 02:08:42.359 One of the exercise I give is real simple, hold 2050 02:08:42.399 --> 02:08:46.479 one thought for one minute. It's almost impossible unless you 2051 02:08:46.560 --> 02:08:50.600 do some sort of meditation or training like that. And 2052 02:08:50.680 --> 02:08:55.560 so the idea of Conny yoga is you overload all 2053 02:08:55.600 --> 02:09:01.119 your census point that you withdraw into the inner cell 2054 02:09:01.399 --> 02:09:03.720 or into the true self, and here we go God 2055 02:09:03.800 --> 02:09:10.039 conscious the whole thing. But it works. I paint, I 2056 02:09:10.039 --> 02:09:16.359 made paintings, and somebody made fun of me one time, like, 2057 02:09:16.680 --> 02:09:18.880 what are you doing? Well, I was doing a drawing, 2058 02:09:19.000 --> 02:09:23.239 a painting, and on my lap, and I was listening to 2059 02:09:23.239 --> 02:09:25.760 the radio, watching TV, and reading a book all the 2060 02:09:25.760 --> 02:09:34.720 same time. So was I doing I was overloading my subconscious, 2061 02:09:34.800 --> 02:09:40.840 overloading my unconscious to the point that self express was 2062 02:09:40.880 --> 02:09:44.159 the only thing left open for me to move the 2063 02:09:44.239 --> 02:09:51.359 direction to move it. We see it in every I'll 2064 02:09:51.359 --> 02:09:57.880 call them avatars, but in this case Bock Beethoven, I 2065 02:09:57.920 --> 02:10:04.399 mean van go whatever. They become so overloaded. And most 2066 02:10:04.479 --> 02:10:07.800 people did that through drugs or alcohol or through psychedelics. 2067 02:10:07.880 --> 02:10:12.119 They all through our history. Okay, and the references are a 2068 02:10:12.039 --> 02:10:14.800 bit obscure, but it was the same thing. It was 2069 02:10:14.880 --> 02:10:19.439 to free the consciousness to express itself. And like the 2070 02:10:19.439 --> 02:10:24.279 book review I did on gravity University, on asthma, is 2071 02:10:24.520 --> 02:10:28.279 the biggest crisis or whatever that affects us today is 2072 02:10:28.279 --> 02:10:32.680 a lack of imagination and the willingness to accept somebody 2073 02:10:32.680 --> 02:10:38.119 else's remember a version of reality. And so if you're 2074 02:10:38.159 --> 02:10:41.720 really going to be an avatar to yourself, create your 2075 02:10:41.760 --> 02:10:46.680 own dang reality, right, but do it by eliminating the 2076 02:10:46.960 --> 02:10:52.279 accumulation of programming, influences, mom, dad, everybody. You're connected to 2077 02:10:53.960 --> 02:10:58.640 all of society. And when you do all that, then 2078 02:10:58.680 --> 02:11:01.079 we're going to call that pair of physics. That's my 2079 02:11:01.159 --> 02:11:06.399 definition of it. It's kind of like a psychology or 2080 02:11:07.439 --> 02:11:10.880 the idea that there's things outside of us. Yes, but 2081 02:11:11.000 --> 02:11:14.800 if you eliminate all those, you have an expansive ability 2082 02:11:15.159 --> 02:11:18.680 and room to express yourself in ways that haven't been 2083 02:11:18.720 --> 02:11:22.439 done before. And to me, that is true alchemy. That 2084 02:11:22.560 --> 02:11:26.159 is a true changing of the self. Right, And Kunlin 2085 02:11:26.199 --> 02:11:29.920 and yoga represents a fast way to get there, but 2086 02:11:31.399 --> 02:11:34.960 you can go to it's like anything else, right, It's 2087 02:11:35.720 --> 02:11:40.680 like in kung pu. There's a deep spirituality in it. 2088 02:11:40.680 --> 02:11:42.560 It's but you have to go through six years of 2089 02:11:42.560 --> 02:11:46.159 physical training for these even start teaching you that. They 2090 02:11:46.600 --> 02:11:49.880 rarely even refer to it. And my teacher said, like, 2091 02:11:51.359 --> 02:11:55.760 oh yeah, that's a forty year program. After the six years, 2092 02:11:56.359 --> 02:11:58.520 and I go, I didn't know I signed up for that. 2093 02:12:00.960 --> 02:12:03.479 But three of my teachers in LA when they met 2094 02:12:03.520 --> 02:12:06.119 with them when they I was fifty years old, and 2095 02:12:06.159 --> 02:12:08.039 one of them riached ome and pamel shoulders said, we're 2096 02:12:08.039 --> 02:12:11.000 proud of you. You're better than we were at fifty 2097 02:12:11.680 --> 02:12:14.840 and so sometimes it's like, what's your credentials? I go, right, 2098 02:12:15.079 --> 02:12:17.920 that's my credentials. You see what I mean that I 2099 02:12:18.279 --> 02:12:21.840 persevere for that length of time to be able to 2100 02:12:21.920 --> 02:12:28.520 explore the martial arts in a way that included spirituality, reality. 2101 02:12:29.199 --> 02:12:32.560 I mean, on and on and on. Once you developed 2102 02:12:32.560 --> 02:12:36.039 the skill set of being yourself, then the whole world 2103 02:12:36.119 --> 02:12:36.840 is open to you. 2104 02:12:37.600 --> 02:12:42.119 Okay, so you said that you can go too fast 2105 02:12:42.319 --> 02:12:45.960 with Kundalini yoga. Now I've heard that people who have 2106 02:12:46.079 --> 02:12:50.560 had an experience with something that they call kundalin energy 2107 02:12:51.159 --> 02:12:56.119 have had serious injuryy injuries because they had kind of 2108 02:12:56.199 --> 02:12:59.039 unlocked this and experienced this when they weren't ready. 2109 02:12:59.319 --> 02:13:01.479 Could you talk, how does that happen? 2110 02:13:01.520 --> 02:13:05.960 And what exactly is this energy and how does it manifest? 2111 02:13:06.800 --> 02:13:13.239 Okay? You are an intersection of ever how many dimensions, 2112 02:13:13.319 --> 02:13:19.159 interactions whatever you want them. Right, If you take that 2113 02:13:19.960 --> 02:13:22.119 one of the things that Kunlan yoga does that other 2114 02:13:22.199 --> 02:13:25.760 yogaz don't do except creative it and a lot there's 2115 02:13:25.800 --> 02:13:29.279 some secret martial arts stuff that teach it also, and 2116 02:13:29.319 --> 02:13:34.279 that is you develop your nervous system. So if you 2117 02:13:34.319 --> 02:13:36.680 take a human being and see well they operate off 2118 02:13:36.680 --> 02:13:39.479 of certain voltage. We'll just pick a number thirty six 2119 02:13:39.560 --> 02:13:43.199 bolts let's say alonger spine. Well, what if you had 2120 02:13:43.239 --> 02:13:46.479 fifty volts or one hundred volts. Well, it's like a magnet. 2121 02:13:47.840 --> 02:13:50.520 As the energy spirals up, it creates an interview. We 2122 02:13:50.600 --> 02:13:54.239 know that that's standard science. And so the more energy 2123 02:13:54.279 --> 02:13:58.680 you generate alonger spine, the more rotation you get in 2124 02:13:58.720 --> 02:14:01.399 the bigger field you get. So that's a lot of 2125 02:14:01.479 --> 02:14:04.760 person that has forty fifty foot in the field now 2126 02:14:04.880 --> 02:14:07.119 or one hundred feet. You can have one hundred four hundred. 2127 02:14:07.239 --> 02:14:14.079 It just keeps you on. So if you don't have 2128 02:14:14.159 --> 02:14:17.039 the nervous system, you won't be able to handle the 2129 02:14:17.159 --> 02:14:21.279 energy flow. Now, historically we call that people that went 2130 02:14:21.319 --> 02:14:24.039 into a tran state or fell down or went into 2131 02:14:24.359 --> 02:14:31.239 screaming fits or whatever because the energy inflow was too much. Okay, 2132 02:14:31.319 --> 02:14:35.680 So Knuini Yoga Crego developed the nervous system to be 2133 02:14:35.760 --> 02:14:39.680 able to handle an additional voltage. Okay. And that's one 2134 02:14:39.680 --> 02:14:41.479 of the things that happened to me when I was 2135 02:14:41.479 --> 02:14:46.479 about thirty five, is that I studied it and learned 2136 02:14:46.479 --> 02:14:48.880 a way to expand the amount of energy you could 2137 02:14:48.880 --> 02:14:53.239 flow through myself and even to flow around me even 2138 02:14:53.279 --> 02:14:57.039 a much greater Well, that energy becomes available to other 2139 02:14:57.079 --> 02:15:00.439 people when I work on them. Okay. But if you 2140 02:15:00.479 --> 02:15:03.479 don't have the nervous system handle the energy glow, think 2141 02:15:03.520 --> 02:15:08.479 about you just overloaded the wiring. Okay. So that's what 2142 02:15:08.520 --> 02:15:11.640 they call a kind of rising experience. And in the 2143 02:15:11.640 --> 02:15:13.680 seventies you used to get calls from all the world. 2144 02:15:13.760 --> 02:15:16.560 People could get in trouble, and they knew I could 2145 02:15:16.760 --> 02:15:18.840 fix it if I could learn to dampen down that 2146 02:15:19.000 --> 02:15:21.560 energy in another person, just like you can learn to 2147 02:15:21.680 --> 02:15:26.079 increase it in another person. Okay. So back to at Alaska, 2148 02:15:26.159 --> 02:15:28.039 it's the same thing. What if you opened up a 2149 02:15:28.159 --> 02:15:31.159 channel of information that you are not prepared to deal 2150 02:15:31.199 --> 02:15:37.359 with so that it becomes you forced it. And anytime 2151 02:15:37.399 --> 02:15:40.359 you force something, there's going to be a consequence, we 2152 02:15:40.479 --> 02:15:45.760 say it, okay, So there is a certain amount of 2153 02:15:45.800 --> 02:15:50.479 contemplation before you engage in any psychedelics or any kind 2154 02:15:50.520 --> 02:15:54.439 of martial arts or anything. It's like, let me try 2155 02:15:54.439 --> 02:15:57.119 this on, but don't let me be a finantic and 2156 02:15:57.199 --> 02:16:01.520 go at it, you know, like I did, you know, 2157 02:16:02.520 --> 02:16:06.600 because I would do it and sometimes I'd pass out 2158 02:16:06.640 --> 02:16:09.920 for three hours straight after one of the classes because 2159 02:16:10.319 --> 02:16:17.319 I had to reintegrate. So all experiences integration, synchronization, congruency, 2160 02:16:17.960 --> 02:16:23.079 integration congruency, So all experiences go through that cycle and 2161 02:16:23.119 --> 02:16:27.039 through that process for you to benefit from that experience. 2162 02:16:28.720 --> 02:16:31.920 Now, when you're doing energy work on people, could you 2163 02:16:31.960 --> 02:16:34.520 tell us about some of the techniques and method you're 2164 02:16:34.559 --> 02:16:37.360 doing and what is actually occurring during your sessions. 2165 02:16:39.000 --> 02:16:46.319 Science loves anacdotal information. Not so, and yet if you 2166 02:16:46.360 --> 02:16:49.239 get right down to it, that's all we have only 2167 02:16:49.319 --> 02:16:53.440 have the experiences I've had. Okay, well, those are antidotal. 2168 02:16:53.479 --> 02:16:57.639 They're non scientific. Yes, what's your point, right, because they 2169 02:16:57.680 --> 02:17:02.799 represent life, don't fall under the idea of science, right, 2170 02:17:03.159 --> 02:17:09.239 They're they're non repeatable. Okay. The kiss of your first 2171 02:17:09.239 --> 02:17:13.600 girlfriend or whatever it is non repeatable. Okay, it doesn't 2172 02:17:13.639 --> 02:17:19.719 mean it didn't happen. Doesn't mean there wasn't some hormonal 2173 02:17:19.840 --> 02:17:24.440 shift in this that the other oh uh, One day 2174 02:17:24.479 --> 02:17:26.719 I decided to I would teach a class in this. 2175 02:17:26.920 --> 02:17:30.040 And I've done that over the years, and I've found 2176 02:17:30.079 --> 02:17:33.200 out that basically, there are very few people interested in 2177 02:17:33.200 --> 02:17:35.639 in in what I call healing. Others they may say 2178 02:17:35.680 --> 02:17:38.760 they do, but it's actually a job. It's actually something 2179 02:17:38.760 --> 02:17:41.200 you have to work at. And so as soon as 2180 02:17:41.239 --> 02:17:46.200 it becomes work, the same thing as spirituality, it's like, uh, 2181 02:17:46.600 --> 02:17:51.280 it becomes work, conscience becomes work, and and it's like, 2182 02:17:51.360 --> 02:17:56.719 can't you give me a pill? And and of course 2183 02:17:56.760 --> 02:18:00.879 then comes a perversion. Uh yeah, with Oates yoga, with 2184 02:18:01.079 --> 02:18:05.639 beer yoga, I mean it was considered a spiritual science. 2185 02:18:06.239 --> 02:18:08.280 I ready to do a book review on yoga, Honda, 2186 02:18:09.639 --> 02:18:14.520 but an autobiography of yoga. But anyway to your question, 2187 02:18:15.600 --> 02:18:17.639 one day I decided to teach a class in it. 2188 02:18:17.959 --> 02:18:21.479 I asked if people were interested, and they were about 2189 02:18:22.079 --> 02:18:26.280 fourteen people that were interested in the class. Okay, So 2190 02:18:26.559 --> 02:18:28.760 when a Tuesday night show up and we'll go through 2191 02:18:28.799 --> 02:18:32.399 all this, and one of them was an eight year 2192 02:18:32.440 --> 02:18:36.479 old and she had told her mother that she was 2193 02:18:36.520 --> 02:18:38.879 kind of my yoga classes. I don't even remember how 2194 02:18:38.920 --> 02:18:42.879 she found it out, but heard her mother talking about it, 2195 02:18:44.000 --> 02:18:46.879 and so she said, I'm coming to the you know, 2196 02:18:47.000 --> 02:18:50.319 learning how to heal class, right. I call it creative 2197 02:18:50.440 --> 02:18:54.079 energetic health because it's creative and it's energetic, and those 2198 02:18:54.079 --> 02:18:56.840 are the two requirements if you're going to create reality. 2199 02:18:57.000 --> 02:19:01.799 By the way, and imagine nation deals with that. Anyway 2200 02:19:01.959 --> 02:19:05.680 to get back to it, a line, everybody up and 2201 02:19:05.719 --> 02:19:08.159 I said, okay, who has a problem. Who has a 2202 02:19:08.200 --> 02:19:12.079 pain in their body? And one of the ladies goes, well, 2203 02:19:12.079 --> 02:19:14.079 my knee hurts. And so I turned to one of 2204 02:19:14.120 --> 02:19:16.479 the other people and go fix it. And they go, 2205 02:19:16.520 --> 02:19:18.479 how do I do that? And I go, any way 2206 02:19:18.559 --> 02:19:22.319 you want to? You see what I mean. Remember that 2207 02:19:22.600 --> 02:19:27.639 we're limited only by imagination and by authority that have 2208 02:19:27.799 --> 02:19:31.040 told us we can't do things right. And if you 2209 02:19:31.079 --> 02:19:33.360 don't know you can't do it. Back to Tesla and 2210 02:19:33.399 --> 02:19:36.040 everybody else, you'd be surprised at what all you can do, 2211 02:19:36.319 --> 02:19:41.479 what all effect you can have. And so I told 2212 02:19:41.520 --> 02:19:44.040 the person is like, there has to be a kinetic action. 2213 02:19:44.799 --> 02:19:47.360 Like if I have a thought about somebody and I 2214 02:19:47.399 --> 02:19:49.040 reach over and call them on the phone, that's a 2215 02:19:49.120 --> 02:19:51.120 kinetic action. That's one of the things I went through 2216 02:19:51.120 --> 02:19:54.319 with doctor Bill Tiller is that you can affect things 2217 02:19:54.319 --> 02:19:57.840 once way as owns. It's a kinetic movement that is 2218 02:19:57.879 --> 02:20:01.000 involved in it, and that gets into a hole long 2219 02:20:01.120 --> 02:20:05.200 think about why that's true. But so I said, you 2220 02:20:05.239 --> 02:20:07.319 can raise your hand, you can wave, you can throw 2221 02:20:07.360 --> 02:20:09.959 it away, you can. I don't care what you do, right, 2222 02:20:10.479 --> 02:20:17.159 but do it without touching. And so the person that 2223 02:20:17.319 --> 02:20:20.479 was doing the healing waved their hands around and I said, 2224 02:20:20.520 --> 02:20:24.600 how's your knee feeling? And she goes, it feels different, right? 2225 02:20:24.719 --> 02:20:28.719 So why? Because all energy is interactive, that's it. All 2226 02:20:28.760 --> 02:20:33.799 thoughts energy interactive. So we went around and somebody said, well, 2227 02:20:35.440 --> 02:20:39.440 what about genetics, And I said, well, genetics is just 2228 02:20:39.639 --> 02:20:41.959 energy flowing through a template, so you should be able 2229 02:20:41.959 --> 02:20:45.600 to change it. And so they said what do you mean. 2230 02:20:45.680 --> 02:20:48.239 I said, well, I have brown eyes, and so I 2231 02:20:48.319 --> 02:20:51.000 turned to the eight year old and I said, change 2232 02:20:51.040 --> 02:20:55.680 my eyes to green. Right, And everybody's sitting around a table, 2233 02:20:56.360 --> 02:20:59.079 and so she sat up straight, took one deep breath, 2234 02:20:59.079 --> 02:21:04.079 and everybody moved back from the table like this, because 2235 02:21:04.280 --> 02:21:07.959 we're sensitive to that kind of energy. We're sensitive to 2236 02:21:08.040 --> 02:21:12.280 that expansion of our energy field to include access to 2237 02:21:12.319 --> 02:21:15.639 the field and access to the more information energy we 2238 02:21:15.760 --> 02:21:21.719 ever thought possible. She changed my eyecolor to green, opened 2239 02:21:21.719 --> 02:21:25.959 my eyes and everybody went, whoa, right, Now here's a trick. 2240 02:21:26.520 --> 02:21:30.440 I'm an artist. It totally shifted how I saw colors 2241 02:21:30.440 --> 02:21:33.159 in the room. I mean, so I knew that there 2242 02:21:33.200 --> 02:21:37.559 had to be a physical difference going on because of 2243 02:21:37.639 --> 02:21:40.840 the shifts, right, And I'm very sensitive color shifts, right, 2244 02:21:40.920 --> 02:21:47.719 so as an artist, and then I was praying, I said, 2245 02:21:47.760 --> 02:21:53.079 now change them back. So you know, it's like, you 2246 02:21:53.239 --> 02:21:56.200 play with this stuff, but you know you ask permission 2247 02:21:56.360 --> 02:21:57.680 and you want to make sure. Yeah. 2248 02:21:57.719 --> 02:22:01.399 That brings me to how harmful can there's energies and 2249 02:22:01.559 --> 02:22:04.840 intentions be towards ours and how much can it affect 2250 02:22:04.879 --> 02:22:05.600 our reality? 2251 02:22:07.000 --> 02:22:10.959 Like a lot or crazy? You got it a lot 2252 02:22:11.120 --> 02:22:15.639 or not. The more you're yourself, the less you're influenced 2253 02:22:15.680 --> 02:22:18.520 by it. Think about people trying to get the vote 2254 02:22:18.559 --> 02:22:24.680 for somebody that's like no, right or yes. But you 2255 02:22:24.840 --> 02:22:27.719 like in this case, I was open to it. I 2256 02:22:27.760 --> 02:22:32.200 had stated my intention. They were able to make the shift. 2257 02:22:32.879 --> 02:22:35.079 How did they do it? I don't know. I had 2258 02:22:35.079 --> 02:22:38.559 my eyes closed. Later that she just waved her hand right. 2259 02:22:39.280 --> 02:22:43.360 And so the main thing is she had never been 2260 02:22:43.399 --> 02:22:48.559 told she couldn't do it, okay, so we can our 2261 02:22:48.600 --> 02:22:51.239 gene expression doesn't have to be through a Chrispurger Cast 2262 02:22:51.319 --> 02:22:55.239 nine machine. Okay. And I have seen it and done 2263 02:22:55.239 --> 02:22:59.079 it upon occasion, but I cannot say I've done it 2264 02:22:59.120 --> 02:23:02.639 every time because we have what we call momentum in 2265 02:23:02.680 --> 02:23:07.680 her life, and we have caramel, we have connections, we 2266 02:23:07.760 --> 02:23:13.440 have equations, this language I use. Okay. Now another one 2267 02:23:13.559 --> 02:23:18.920 came to class again, a young one, and she said, 2268 02:23:18.920 --> 02:23:21.200 I want to learn what you do. And I said, okay, 2269 02:23:21.520 --> 02:23:23.399 just sit here after class and I'll tell you a 2270 02:23:23.440 --> 02:23:26.760 few things. I says, what's going on? She said her 2271 02:23:26.799 --> 02:23:29.559 grandmother had a high blood pressure, and I go, look, 2272 02:23:30.079 --> 02:23:33.479 just find her blood pressure and then when you find it, 2273 02:23:33.719 --> 02:23:38.159 just lower it right, very simple. So way she goes. 2274 02:23:38.239 --> 02:23:43.879 She comes back and goes, I did that. I said, congratulations. 2275 02:23:44.159 --> 02:23:47.520 Now her grandmother goes in the hospital for high blood 2276 02:23:47.520 --> 02:23:51.000 pressure and the doctor comes in, goes, it's like one eight, 2277 02:23:51.280 --> 02:23:54.639 one ninety whatever, blah blah blah, and he goes. The 2278 02:23:54.680 --> 02:23:58.040 little girl goes, her grandmother lowers it down. The doctor 2279 02:23:58.079 --> 02:24:02.559 comes back in and goes, it's perfectly normal. He goes, 2280 02:24:02.639 --> 02:24:06.200 I don't understand it. A little Joe goes and he goes, 2281 02:24:06.319 --> 02:24:09.319 don't do that. Do you see what I mean? Don't 2282 02:24:09.360 --> 02:24:13.639 do that? Oh, He's hospital. I had one of my clients, 2283 02:24:13.760 --> 02:24:18.399 a five year old, all kinds of genetic problems, and 2284 02:24:18.479 --> 02:24:20.760 she was in it with her heart rate would go 2285 02:24:20.799 --> 02:24:22.920 way up and this, that and the other. And I 2286 02:24:23.000 --> 02:24:27.520 walked in, walked over to her about heart rate two twelve. Right. 2287 02:24:28.239 --> 02:24:30.719 The doctors come in, took one look and walked away. 2288 02:24:30.879 --> 02:24:34.440 And I always like Children's hospital, come city. I said, 2289 02:24:34.479 --> 02:24:36.559 I did that, and they go, we want to talk 2290 02:24:36.600 --> 02:24:39.040 to you, and I go, here's my phone number. Next day, 2291 02:24:39.399 --> 02:24:41.120 we don't want to talk to you. Don't ever call 2292 02:24:41.200 --> 02:24:46.000 us again? Right, Yes, what's funny about it? Nationally in 2293 02:24:46.120 --> 02:24:49.719 sseud of Health, same thing, CDC, same thing. I mean, 2294 02:24:49.799 --> 02:24:53.040 I've been interviewed and asked questions and then all of 2295 02:24:53.040 --> 02:24:54.639 a sudden they don't want anything to do with me. 2296 02:24:55.520 --> 02:24:59.680 Because everybody has the ability to influence their own health 2297 02:24:59.680 --> 02:25:03.559 and well being to some degree, and that some degree 2298 02:25:03.760 --> 02:25:07.319 becomes that part of you know, if it's available, and 2299 02:25:07.399 --> 02:25:09.239 all these people telling you you can do all this 2300 02:25:09.719 --> 02:25:15.360 stuff is not true unless you can. And so everybody 2301 02:25:15.440 --> 02:25:18.559 can practice something. And that's why I don't limit it 2302 02:25:18.600 --> 02:25:21.920 to just yoga. You can study reka, you can study 2303 02:25:22.079 --> 02:25:27.040 occupying anything that involves the energetics of the human body. 2304 02:25:27.159 --> 02:25:29.920 You can study in a way that allows you to 2305 02:25:29.959 --> 02:25:33.559 influence yourself. And if you can influence yourself, you can 2306 02:25:33.600 --> 02:25:38.040 influence others, excuse me, in a positive way. 2307 02:25:38.239 --> 02:25:40.920 So right on one hundred percent, man, that's a perfect 2308 02:25:41.000 --> 02:25:44.360 note to end on Randy. This was fantastic for the 2309 02:25:44.440 --> 02:25:48.079 audience that is interested in finding out more about you. 2310 02:25:48.200 --> 02:25:50.479 And if you have anything interesting that you're working on, 2311 02:25:50.520 --> 02:25:51.399 go ahead and let us know. 2312 02:25:52.680 --> 02:25:58.799 Okay, yeah, these are things that occupy. It's interesting people 2313 02:25:58.840 --> 02:26:03.639 come to me for help mental, physical, emotional, spiritual, psychic, 2314 02:26:03.680 --> 02:26:08.239 all that, and it all has a universal basis and 2315 02:26:08.280 --> 02:26:12.879 that is energy, information, and consciousness. And when you combine 2316 02:26:12.920 --> 02:26:16.319 those in yourself, you have the greatest ability to influence 2317 02:26:16.600 --> 02:26:22.079 the universe, yourself, your family, your work. And the only 2318 02:26:22.159 --> 02:26:26.280 factor is what we call a litation of imagination. And 2319 02:26:26.360 --> 02:26:34.639 so so everybody I'd encourage read and stitch, but I'm 2320 02:26:34.639 --> 02:26:39.639 on the internet YouTube and alst Randy of Weidenheimer Energy 2321 02:26:39.760 --> 02:26:45.000 Doctor spell Ka is another one. Creative energetic health is 2322 02:26:45.079 --> 02:26:51.280 just a very simple idea that through imagination, creativity energy. 2323 02:26:51.719 --> 02:26:56.959 You make changes and that is true manifestation or whatever. 2324 02:26:58.120 --> 02:27:02.760 So and get busy. In forty years you can be 2325 02:27:02.799 --> 02:27:03.280 really good. 2326 02:27:03.760 --> 02:27:05.719 Hey, there you go, something to look forward to. 2327 02:27:06.040 --> 02:27:10.159 Randy, this was fantastic and yeah man, and we'll have 2328 02:27:10.319 --> 02:27:13.399 to definitely do the sooner again in the future. Until 2329 02:27:13.440 --> 02:27:16.079 next time, everyone, have an excellent evening and we will 2330 02:27:16.079 --> 02:27:20.079 talk again tomorrow. We'll see y'all all Din