Speaker 1: Today, and welcome back to the show, writer Lee. He
Speaker 1: is producer and host of Raised by Giants, which provides
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Speaker 2: Writer, welcome back. How you doing.
Speaker 3: I'm doing great, Chris, Thanks so much for inviting me
Speaker 3: on your show to talk about a developing thing that's
Speaker 3: happening right now within the community. It's an explosion. So
Speaker 3: happy to be here. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, man, this is going to be great. Like
Speaker 1: you said, it's a thing we'll be discussing today. It's
Speaker 1: an ongoing saga of fake space battles channeling an entire reality.
Speaker 1: I was actually adopted by some poor folks that fed
Speaker 1: into the craziness as well as lawsuits and now an
Speaker 1: admittance of procuring said bullshit via court testimony, and that
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, is the secret space soldier extraordinary Corey
Speaker 1: good Now, like you said, this is still an unfolding story,
Speaker 1: but one that's very important for truth seekers out there,
Speaker 1: like yourself, like myself. The conspiracy realms are sometimes dark
Speaker 1: and sometimes unfortunately fake or even made up, and it
Speaker 1: really doesn't make me happy to expose these folks.
Speaker 2: But this guy, this guy.
Speaker 1: In particular, is one that I've been warning about for years. Writer,
Speaker 1: you're opening statements, my friend.
Speaker 3: Yes, I agree, and I've really the past eight months
Speaker 3: or so I've been trying to expose this entire thing,
Speaker 3: like not only just Corey Good, but everybody in the
Speaker 3: Secret Space program twenty them back nonsense. And if you remember,
Speaker 3: around a month ago, I actually had the scoop on
Speaker 3: this before anybody else even really knew about it. But
Speaker 3: I wasn't able to release it because the person that
Speaker 3: I interviewed told me that I needed to take it
Speaker 3: down because it's an ongoing lawsuit. And then I remember
Speaker 3: you telling me you were like, it's going to come
Speaker 3: out anyway, and I really didn't think that it was
Speaker 3: going to come out like this in this like a
Speaker 3: actual video file of a deposition, right, But from my understanding,
Speaker 3: Corey Good's lawyer didn't go through the right proceedings in
Speaker 3: order to get the documentation of the video protected right,
Speaker 3: So she had thirty days in order to you know,
Speaker 3: make the documents you know, protected so that no one
Speaker 3: could release them, and she didn't do that. So the
Speaker 3: thirty days last, and then all the document all the
Speaker 3: video documents came out, which there is way more video
Speaker 3: documents that are to be released. There's actually six of them.
Speaker 3: The ones that's out there right now is actually part
Speaker 3: three of a six part deposition lawsuit of Corey Good.
Speaker 3: So there's five other hours of him being questioned by
Speaker 3: the defense attorney that we don't have access to yet,
Speaker 3: but I have a feeling that they're going to come out.
Speaker 3: But yeah, if people haven't watched it yet, I think
Speaker 3: the first video that you sent me was on Vimeo,
Speaker 3: and then that one got taken down, but it's on
Speaker 3: bit Shooting and it's actually on YouTube now. And Stephen
Speaker 3: Cambion from truth Seekers has been doing commentary on it
Speaker 3: and everyone too, and I wanted to give him a
Speaker 3: shout out because he's been doing really good work with
Speaker 3: it as well. But yeah, I've been digging deep into
Speaker 3: this whole thing, and there's been people that's been doing
Speaker 3: it way longer than me, you know, I've just kind
Speaker 3: of I came in late to the game really, so
Speaker 3: you know, I just wanted to give everybody else their comumpets,
Speaker 3: because you know, Shane Sodor, for sure, he's been talking
Speaker 3: about this for eight years now, you know, exposing Corey Good,
Speaker 3: and you know a lot of really really interesting things
Speaker 3: came out in that one video that I've solved an
Speaker 3: hour long in the deposition, and he basically says that
Speaker 3: he made everything up, not even that it's even channeled.
Speaker 3: He pretty much says, like, I made all this stuff up.
Speaker 3: I made up the Glack Federation, I made up the
Speaker 3: Secret Space Program, I made up the twenty and back,
Speaker 3: I made up Dark Fleet, and all of these things
Speaker 3: are a part of his intellectual property that he owns,
Speaker 3: that he created and that he put in his book.
Speaker 3: And then there's also a point in there where the
Speaker 3: defense attorney asked him, you know, are you letting people
Speaker 3: know because we've all been under the impression his audience
Speaker 3: this entire time that these experiences are real. You know,
Speaker 3: that was like his claim to fame, that he's really
Speaker 3: physically having these experiences and he's physically meeting these beings,
Speaker 3: and he's physically in space right and the lawyer asked
Speaker 3: him at one point, he was like, are you letting
Speaker 3: people know that you know these stories are fake, that
Speaker 3: you've made all this stuff up? And he says, yeah.
Speaker 3: In my book, I specifically say that there's Corey Good,
Speaker 3: which is me, and then there's the exaggerated, made up
Speaker 3: version of Corey Good with all of these experiences, right,
Speaker 3: and it's so telling. Bro It basically, you know, proves
Speaker 3: everything that everyone's been saying about him. And then it
Speaker 3: just brings in the question everybody this came after him? Really,
Speaker 3: that's my big thing with this entire thing is that
Speaker 3: if his stories made up and that he created all
Speaker 3: of them, then that also means that everybody else's story
Speaker 3: that came after him is also made up. You know,
Speaker 3: he plainly states that he created all this stuff. He
Speaker 3: created Darkfleet, he created a shar the being that from
Speaker 3: Inner Earth that he channels, you know. So it's like,
Speaker 3: and whether people want to admit it or not, whether
Speaker 3: the Secret Space Program people, the whistleblowers, the Super Soldier
Speaker 3: people want to admit it or not, they did take
Speaker 3: a lot of things from his story and then created
Speaker 3: their own story. He even talks about it in the
Speaker 3: deposition suit.
Speaker 1: Now, before we get too far into everything, first, I
Speaker 1: think we should give people a little bit of history
Speaker 1: that may not be familiar with who Corey Good is
Speaker 1: and how he came on the scene. And there's a
Speaker 1: couple of things. There's a few things actually that he
Speaker 1: claims that I believe we're in the public consciousness, that
Speaker 1: were out there online in different books, like earlier books,
Speaker 1: older books that he kind of picked from and created
Speaker 1: this story from. But there, you know, there were a
Speaker 1: few things that did exist that weren't exactly his intellectual property,
Speaker 1: that he actually stole from others before him. So we'll
Speaker 1: get into that too. But for those that really aren't familiar,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly when Corey Good came on the scene.
Speaker 1: I was not one of his followers ever. Ever since
Speaker 1: I first heard his story, I was like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is bullshit. But I remember it was David Wilcock who
Speaker 1: introduced him really to the world, and he had been
Speaker 1: on some online forums talking about his experiences with the
Speaker 1: Secret Space Program and Blue Avians and all these things.
Speaker 1: And as soon as Wilcock introduced him to the community,
Speaker 1: it blew up and everybody just like latched onto his
Speaker 1: stories and blindly believed. I don't know if it's because
Speaker 1: Wilcock had some kind of you know, a secret space
Speaker 1: community cloud, which he did, people believed his shit as well.
Speaker 1: But we'll get into him too and where he stands
Speaker 1: in all this. I've seen a few videos of him lately.
Speaker 1: He's not looking good. He looks like he just fucking
Speaker 1: went off the deep end somehow. But anyway, Corey was
Speaker 1: introduced by David Wilcock, got popular very fast. Then they
Speaker 1: start making, you know, movies about it, documentary films, start
Speaker 1: cashing in on the information big time. I'm talking millions
Speaker 1: and millions of dollars, and then just spreading this information
Speaker 1: out to communities, going to conferences, going speaking commitments, writing books,
Speaker 1: and just this stuff blew up into its own type
Speaker 1: of community.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 1: And you know, however much came from Corey, or however
Speaker 1: much came from individuals before.
Speaker 2: We're not sure.
Speaker 1: He made up a lot of shit, though, he made
Speaker 1: up a whole lot of shit that people latched onto.
Speaker 1: And that's the main point is he deceived a lot
Speaker 1: of people, and unfortunately, up until now, there were still
Speaker 1: a lot of people defending him all the way to
Speaker 1: the end. So, yeah, this guy is not a good character,
Speaker 1: and he's been on the scene for a while and
Speaker 1: I'm just glad that finally this is finally coming out
Speaker 1: because I've been talking about him since since the beginning
Speaker 1: and warning about his fraudulents and.
Speaker 4: So have you.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's a little background on who Corey Good was.
Speaker 1: Now you've done a few interviews with Jay Widener. How
Speaker 1: did all this start unfolding with the lawsuits and everything
Speaker 1: that started to go wrong for him?
Speaker 3: Well, as far as I know, Chris is, he actually
Speaker 3: came on in the scene around two to three years
Speaker 3: before he got involved with Guya and David Wilcock. He
Speaker 3: was actually online doing interviews on certain people's channels and
Speaker 3: on people's podcast and stuff like that. So he was
Speaker 3: actually on the scene before he exploded onto Guya and
Speaker 3: he was found by David Wilcock. He was actually a
Speaker 3: part of Project Avalon. I don't know if you remember
Speaker 3: Project Avalon. It was offshoot of Project Him a Lot, Yeah,
Speaker 3: and he was involved with that for many years before.
Speaker 3: So he did take a lot of other people's work
Speaker 3: and the things that they were talking about as well.
Speaker 3: But I don't want to use that really too much
Speaker 3: as an excuse, because you know, people are kind of
Speaker 3: using that as to defend that their story is real, right,
Speaker 3: they're kind of like, you know, the other secret space
Speaker 3: program assets are like, oh, yeah, he stole all of
Speaker 3: this from me. He stole it. Well, it's all made up, right,
Speaker 3: that's just my personal opinion, like there there isn't any
Speaker 3: secret space program in the way that they talk about it, right,
Speaker 3: And he states in that deposition that he created a
Speaker 3: lot of this stuff, and I don't know exactly, you
Speaker 3: know where if he did steal the information, if he
Speaker 3: got it from somewhere else, because that's just like a
Speaker 3: lot of work and like a lot of research. I'm
Speaker 3: just basing it off, you know what he's And he
Speaker 3: said in that deposition that nobody that dark Fleet, you know,
Speaker 3: you know about dark Fleet, which is like this secret
Speaker 3: Nazi space crew in the Secret Space.
Speaker 1: Person another thing when which individuals like Lynn Casten wrote
Speaker 1: about a long time ago. Though that's that is something
Speaker 1: that he definitely took from others.
Speaker 3: Well, he claims in that deposition that nobody talked about
Speaker 3: it before him.
Speaker 1: Oh there's an old book that I've interviewed a gentleman
Speaker 1: that wrote about the dark Fleet, the Nazi Reptilian German
Speaker 1: dark Fleet, so he definitely stole that one.
Speaker 2: That's one of them.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: He also stole a lot of stuff from Ashiana Dean,
Speaker 1: and he just doesn't seem that creative to begin with,
Speaker 1: to make up a lot of this shit. But then
Speaker 1: again he claims to have channeled it. That's a whole
Speaker 1: other thing that I want to get into, but you're right,
Speaker 1: the main thing is he is a fraud and he
Speaker 1: made up so much of this stuff, whether he stole
Speaker 1: it from somebody else or just grabbed it from thin air,
Speaker 1: it was bullshit. And he presented it as reaction. That's
Speaker 1: the main thing that we're talking about.
Speaker 3: Here, exactly. He presented it as physical experiences, and then
Speaker 3: you know, he comes out and says that none of
Speaker 3: it's physical. In the deposition, the defense attorney asked him
Speaker 3: if he's ever been the space, and he asked him physically,
Speaker 3: and then he was like, no, I don't believe. So
Speaker 3: those are the exact words out of the mouth. He
Speaker 3: said that he's never physically been in the space. You know,
Speaker 3: But as far as how it started, you know, this
Speaker 3: is just from the information that I have of kind
Speaker 3: of how it happened. Now, you know, don't quote me
Speaker 3: on this because there's a lot of different versions of
Speaker 3: different people, you know, talking about how it happened. But
Speaker 3: apparently there was a split from Guaya with Wilcock and
Speaker 3: Corey good and they kind of left in an unhappy way, right,
Speaker 3: And there were then people started calling them out, like
Speaker 3: Jay Widner, there's a few other people that would make
Speaker 3: you know, YouTube videos about that he's a fraud, that
Speaker 3: he's basically making all this up. And this is years
Speaker 3: and years and years ago. So Corey Goode basically gets
Speaker 3: really upset with these people that are calling his story
Speaker 3: fate and not real. Right, So then he starts, you know,
Speaker 3: getting lawyers involved in sending people seats and letters, docking
Speaker 3: them online, you know, basically cyber stocking them. But then
Speaker 3: he turns around and says that he's being cyberstocked. You know,
Speaker 3: he's accusing other people of doing the exact same thing
Speaker 3: that he's doing to people. Right, So then he goes
Speaker 3: to you SETI Ranch I Believe with James Gilliland and
Speaker 3: up in Washington and does this huge like three part
Speaker 3: video with with James and which James is a completely
Speaker 3: other story. But he basically comes out and is like, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm putting all these lawsuits together, and We're going to
Speaker 3: expose all the frauds and all the fakes in the
Speaker 3: community and and all this stuff, and uh, we're you know,
Speaker 3: we're gonna get to the bottom of all this. So
Speaker 3: he basically did this to himself. He created all these lasses.
Speaker 3: So he decided to sue his all of his business partners,
Speaker 3: uh suing Gaya, He's suing uh Jay Weidner, uh specifically
Speaker 3: all this for like millions of dollars for defamation, right,
Speaker 3: which defamation is a very difficult thing to prove. You
Speaker 3: have to like prove that you know, you've actually lost
Speaker 3: money and you know, lost followers and like all this
Speaker 3: stuff in accordance to you know, people coming on and
Speaker 3: seeing that you're your story. You have to prove the
Speaker 3: truth exactly. And that is not what he did. He
Speaker 3: actually proved the exact opposite and came out and said
Speaker 3: that that it was all nonsense and all fake and
Speaker 3: that he made all of it up. I'm very interested
Speaker 3: to see the rest of the the defamation documents because
Speaker 3: I think the rest of those are going to be
Speaker 3: released at some point because they're they're public. It's a
Speaker 3: public record. Now. You know, his lawyer didn't go through
Speaker 3: the right steps in order to get the protection of
Speaker 3: you know, it not being released to the public. So
Speaker 3: now it's just all public record as of now. Now,
Speaker 3: I don't know, it could change sometime in the future,
Speaker 3: but it's already been released online. It's not going anywhere.
Speaker 3: Everyone already has their hands on this and have has
Speaker 3: seen it. So I don't think there's going to be
Speaker 3: any return for him. I think he's done. Like I
Speaker 3: think that they he's destroyed himself. There's absolutely nothing more
Speaker 3: that he can do to revive his career. He's he's
Speaker 3: lost it. It's it's over for him.
Speaker 2: I would definitely say so.
Speaker 1: Now, when this first started coming to the surface about
Speaker 1: some of the things that he was saying, I was
Speaker 1: under the understanding that he might have said that he
Speaker 1: channeled this information. Now I don't know if this is
Speaker 1: like admissible in court or what if you can say
Speaker 1: that you actually channeled something to make it seem that
Speaker 1: it might be real in some aspects.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Now.
Speaker 1: I've had my own experiences with what some might consider
Speaker 1: channeling with getting information from what I call spirit realms.
Speaker 1: And I've had plenty of channeler guests and people that
Speaker 1: do claim to have these abilities and gifts to channel
Speaker 1: information from either other energies or to other realms or
Speaker 1: even types of what they consider extraterrestrials or other entities. Now,
Speaker 1: like I said, I've had my own experiences with this,
Speaker 1: and most of the information that I receive is from
Speaker 1: my own personal development.
Speaker 2: I very rarely, you.
Speaker 1: Know, whether it's through meditation or psychedelic experiences. That is
Speaker 1: where I receive most of my downloads and messages, and
Speaker 1: they're very rarely about anything external, and it's mainly to
Speaker 1: help me in my own personal growth, my own personal journey,
Speaker 1: and as such, with many other channelers that I know
Speaker 1: that now, there are a few that do claim to
Speaker 1: get information about the future, about what's happening around the world,
Speaker 1: and unfortunately a lot of this information never comes to fruition. Now,
Speaker 1: there are some that are very gifted, I do believe
Speaker 1: in actually are getting information about external things and people
Speaker 1: in places and events and stuff like that, but there
Speaker 1: are also, unfortunately too many of those that are They
Speaker 1: may have this gift, they may be able to get
Speaker 1: in touch with other energies or entities and receive information.
Speaker 1: But first of all, how do they know that that
Speaker 1: information is correct? How do they know that these entities
Speaker 1: have their best interest in mind? And how can we
Speaker 1: prove that any of the information that they're telling them
Speaker 1: would be true anyway, maybe they're being lied to. There's
Speaker 1: just so many aspects to consider when it comes to
Speaker 1: what we think of as channeling and the information that
Speaker 1: we're getting from the other side. And even with my
Speaker 1: information about myself, I take everything with a grain of salt,
Speaker 1: and I do my own research into my own life
Speaker 1: and my own past and things like that to see
Speaker 1: if the information is true to myself, does resonate with me,
Speaker 1: and then I'll take it from there. But for unfortunately,
Speaker 1: for many individuals, they've used channeling or even if it's
Speaker 1: a slight gift of receiving information for their own personal gain,
Speaker 1: for either monetary gain or notoriety, or just to get
Speaker 1: their name out there, and they unfortunately put out bs information.
Speaker 1: Some of it may be mixed with truth, some of
Speaker 1: it makes me mixed with lies. But there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people who have gotten very far in this. I
Speaker 1: hate saying this community because there's so many aspects of
Speaker 1: this community and we're under attack right now and it's
Speaker 1: so muddled. But there's a lot of people that get
Speaker 1: very far off the claims of channeled information in this community,
Speaker 1: and they get very popular and some of them make
Speaker 1: a lot very good living. And if Corey claims that
Speaker 1: he channeled this information, that still doesn't make it any
Speaker 1: less nefarious of what he was doing, because, for one,
Speaker 1: you can never prove any.
Speaker 2: Of this stuff.
Speaker 1: And he, uh, well, unfortunately, I guess he came out
Speaker 1: Courton said that he didn't handle it. So it's very
Speaker 1: interesting what's going on with all this. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of people who followed in his footsteps that claim to
Speaker 1: have had the same experiences. They latched on to his
Speaker 1: They said they've seen him there, They've gone to space
Speaker 1: and seen him and had experiences with him fighting aliens.
Speaker 1: And there's, unfortunately, you know, a lot of people that
Speaker 1: either latched onto it because they truly believed it, or
Speaker 1: they were put up to it, or they're just crazy
Speaker 1: and want to get famous. I don't know, but there's
Speaker 1: a lot aspects of this.
Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit of all the things
Speaker 3: that you just said I mean the whole channeling thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the thing with it. If he did
Speaker 3: end up channeling it, which that was the information that
Speaker 3: I got before any of this went down, right, I
Speaker 3: got that from my whistleblower, that he channeled all of
Speaker 3: the information, right, And but from watching the deposition, he
Speaker 3: doesn't mention anything about channeling. He literally says that he
Speaker 3: created all of it, that he made all of it up. Now,
Speaker 3: if there's another video that surfaces from the deposition that
Speaker 3: says that he channeled it, there still doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1: It makes me wonder if he's saying that just so
Speaker 1: he can maybe hold on to the hopes that he
Speaker 1: could have some kind of monetary gain from this somehow,
Speaker 1: if he claims it as his own intellectual property, I
Speaker 1: don't know either way. It's sick and he doesn't seem
Speaker 1: that smart, So I don't know what he's trying to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And if he does say that he channeled it,
Speaker 3: it doesn't make any sense either, because he's never claimed
Speaker 3: to be a channeler. He never said from the beginning
Speaker 3: that he was any kind of channeler, right, So it
Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense even if he claims that he
Speaker 3: did channel it. That doesn't line up with all the
Speaker 3: things that he said in the past. Right. If you
Speaker 3: would have came out it from the very beginning and
Speaker 3: been like, hey, I'm a channeler. I've channeled all this information,
Speaker 3: none of this would be happening, right because really nobody
Speaker 3: would care because it would be like, Okay, well he
Speaker 3: channeled it. There's a billion other channelers out there, you know.
Speaker 3: We can either take his information or we can leave
Speaker 3: his information, right, doesn't really matter. But the thing is
Speaker 3: is he was presenting them all of his experiences as physical,
Speaker 3: three D experiences. He went to space and a three
Speaker 3: D body, that he was talking to these entities physically.
Speaker 3: That it's not channeled. It's not a consciousness thing, it's
Speaker 3: not an astral thing. It's one physical right, And that's
Speaker 3: where the problem comes in with the whole channeling aspect. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if you want to say that it's that it's channeled
Speaker 3: information seven eight years later, that doesn't work for me anyway,
Speaker 3: and it shouldn't work for anybody else. Now, if you've
Speaker 3: claimed to be a channeler this entire time, then people
Speaker 3: already know that you're a channeler, and more than likely
Speaker 3: the information that you're presenting is channeled information. Right. It's
Speaker 3: it's exactly like that. It's like it's like if I
Speaker 3: were to, you know, create a business, and then I
Speaker 3: was telling you one thing, but on the other opposite end,
Speaker 3: I'm doing something completely different. Right, It's exactly that. If
Speaker 3: he says that it was channeling from the very beginning,
Speaker 3: then there's not a problem.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: But if eight years later he all of a sudden
Speaker 3: the size that it is channeling, that's an issue. And
Speaker 3: that's a problem to me and it should be a
Speaker 3: problem to anybody listening. Now, again, I haven't seen I've
Speaker 3: watched the deposit the only video that I can get
Speaker 3: my hands on of the deposition that you know that
Speaker 3: I can get a hold of, which is the third
Speaker 3: part of the sixth part six hour Deposition interview. And
Speaker 3: he doesn't mention anything about channeling. Now, he mentions like meditation,
Speaker 3: that the being that he that he talks to you
Speaker 3: all the time a shar that's from inner Earth. He
Speaker 3: says that that is a meditation practice that he sits
Speaker 3: in his living room and he meditates and then he
Speaker 3: connects to this Ashar being. But it's not a physical being.
Speaker 3: But he's been leading everyone to believe this entire time
Speaker 3: there's a physical being. You know, this is the problem.
Speaker 3: And then he's saying that he created the twenty and
Speaker 3: back program, that nobody was talking about a twenty in
Speaker 3: back program until he came on the scene. Right, Well,
Speaker 3: all this is one percent of what he's talking about.
Speaker 3: And like what he's saying in this deposition, and you
Speaker 3: know it's he's saying everything that that people has been
Speaker 3: saying for a really long time about him, that he's
Speaker 3: that he's making it up. And he didn't want this video,
Speaker 3: this deposition getting out. He didn't want it going anywhere,
Speaker 3: but his lawyer screwed up and it didn't file the
Speaker 3: right paperwork to make the protection order to be able
Speaker 3: to keep the documents closed to the public, and now
Speaker 3: it's become a public case and on public record, and
Speaker 3: there's nothing he can do about it now.
Speaker 2: Now, I want to get your thoughts on this.
Speaker 1: There are not necessarily people that are defending him, but
Speaker 1: there are people that are coming out now and questioning
Speaker 1: and posing the question, well, maybe Corey was part of
Speaker 1: some sort of mind control program to put them out
Speaker 1: there and discount this whole community in the way that
Speaker 1: he did that he might have been a co intel
Speaker 1: pro that he might have been part of something else
Speaker 1: since it was Willcock. Me personally, I don't think he
Speaker 1: was that smart. I think that he was just an
Speaker 1: opportunist that got a hold of this information somehow and
Speaker 1: you know, got lucky and presented it.
Speaker 2: But what do you think.
Speaker 3: I think that's exactly what happened, and he seeing a
Speaker 3: huge opportunity to make a lot of money, because that's
Speaker 3: also what he talks about in the deposition that he
Speaker 3: made close to a million dollars off of his very
Speaker 3: first ascension course that he didn't even write, he didn't
Speaker 3: even create that course, that he made close to a
Speaker 3: million dollars off of, right, And I think that that's
Speaker 3: exactly what happened. I think that he was lonely, he
Speaker 3: was trying to find a way to make money. He
Speaker 3: was watching all these people online, uh, talking about these
Speaker 3: these stories, and then he came up and created his own.
Speaker 3: And you know, I've been I've been talking to to
Speaker 3: Shane a lot, uh, you know, Shane Sadora, and he
Speaker 3: was he was telling me that he had information over
Speaker 3: seven years ago. I don't know if I should be
Speaker 3: seeing this or not, But I'm just going to go
Speaker 3: and say it that he had information of recording of
Speaker 3: Corey Good and his wife sitting in their living room,
Speaker 3: creating this entire story of him right in his secret
Speaker 3: space program missions, fighting aliens and then being adrigress back
Speaker 3: in time twenty years to the original point that you
Speaker 3: know that he was taking. You know, so it's it's
Speaker 3: been a long time in the making, and he's I
Speaker 3: think that's exactly what happened, exactly what you said, that
Speaker 3: he saw an opportunity and he took it, and then
Speaker 3: everybody else followed in his footsteps afterwards, And they can
Speaker 3: say that they didn't, right, They can say, oh, well,
Speaker 3: I never listened to Corey Good, I didn't listen to
Speaker 3: any of his information. I knew that he was lying
Speaker 3: the entire time or whatever. Well, maybe you didn't directly,
Speaker 3: but inadvertently you followed in his footsteps, right, Because information
Speaker 3: has passed along like that, Even if you're not listening
Speaker 3: to him directly, somebody else that's involved is definitely listening
Speaker 3: to him, and then they're disseminated that information and then
Speaker 3: you know, it doesn't matter who you're getting it from.
Speaker 3: It all kind of links back to Corey good in
Speaker 3: his in his show, I mean, whether you like it
Speaker 3: or not, whether any whether anybody thinks it was a
Speaker 3: huge show. It made Guya millions of dollars.
Speaker 4: It was a.
Speaker 3: Gigantic, huge show that was ridiculously popular in the community,
Speaker 3: but it was exaggerated, fake, made up stories, and then
Speaker 3: everybody just jumped on the bandwagon. And I think the
Speaker 3: reason that everybody jumped on the bandwagon after that was
Speaker 3: because they also saw an opportunity. They're like, damn, Corey
Speaker 3: Goods making all this money, He's got a huge Guya show,
Speaker 3: and you know, this is an opportunity for me to
Speaker 3: try and find and create my story, so hopefully that
Speaker 3: I can become popular too and make a lot of
Speaker 3: money and you know, have my own show on the topic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I I that's that's what I think happened exactly.
Speaker 1: Now I want to I want to talk about what
Speaker 1: you were just mentioning the others that jumped on the
Speaker 1: bag vandwagon because they they saw an opportunity for notoriety
Speaker 1: or fame or whatever.
Speaker 2: I see that.
Speaker 1: I see that a lot of individuals did that. Now
Speaker 1: there are others that I'm very confused about in this community,
Speaker 1: others that supported good but seem to have a genuine
Speaker 1: aspect about their story, a genuine aspect about themselves, and
Speaker 1: didn't seem to be doing this for any other reasons.
Speaker 1: Now I could have misread these people.
Speaker 2: It happens.
Speaker 1: But you know, there are some still some people that
Speaker 1: are not necessarily defending him, but are claiming to be
Speaker 1: in this secret space program. Uh now, whatever that means
Speaker 1: to them. I've had You've had a few of these
Speaker 1: individuals on. I've had a few of these individuals on,
Speaker 1: and for me, it's all about finding out what the
Speaker 1: hell's going on in reality. You know, whether they're making
Speaker 1: it up. I want to know if they if they're
Speaker 1: not making it up, I want to know what's really happening.
Speaker 1: And that's the whole reason it's It's about open discussion
Speaker 1: and getting tid's bits of truth out there. And you know,
Speaker 1: for a very long time, I have been very wary
Speaker 1: about this particular topic, and I always do little disclaimers
Speaker 1: in my introductions whenever I'm interviewing super soldiers, saying, you know,
Speaker 1: this is a kind of controversial topic. You the audience,
Speaker 1: it is up to you to decide and I am
Speaker 1: just here to present this individual story and nothing more.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: But I've, like I said, I've had a few on
Speaker 1: and there were there were some that really were compelling
Speaker 1: to me in a way.
Speaker 2: That they believed their own story.
Speaker 1: That they they made me believe that they believe their story,
Speaker 1: that they really believed that they were having these off
Speaker 1: planet adventures and gone for this amount of time and
Speaker 1: having sex with aliens and gun battles and all this
Speaker 1: fantastical stuff, that they truly believe this. But now looking back,
Speaker 1: it's hard to tell. I don't know. Do you think
Speaker 1: that there's some grand delusion going on? Do you think
Speaker 1: that some of these people are actually part of nefarious
Speaker 1: government programs that might be in planning. I know we
Speaker 1: talked about this a few times. I think it could
Speaker 1: go either way, because there are some people that genuinely,
Speaker 1: I believe still genuinely believe their story. And that's what
Speaker 1: I want to get behind. Why do they believe this?
Speaker 1: What happened to them to make them truly believe that
Speaker 1: this is a real phenomenon.
Speaker 3: That's a really loaded question, and that's what I've really
Speaker 3: been trying to dig into for the past eight months now,
Speaker 3: is figuring out the truth behind this, right and digging
Speaker 3: to the bottom of it. Is it MK ultra, right,
Speaker 3: is it some kind of holographic simulation? You know, what
Speaker 3: part of this story is real and what part of
Speaker 3: it is fake? And I've been doing a lot of
Speaker 3: research into that and studying the mk Ultra programs and
Speaker 3: going over the declassified mk Ultra documents, going over the
Speaker 3: Stargate declassified documents, interviewing people that military personnel that were
Speaker 3: actually involved in the psychic and PSI ESP remote viewing
Speaker 3: research that the government, the DA and Army Intelligence were
Speaker 3: actually studying, you know, and SRI and the CIA, right,
Speaker 3: because they were actually really studying this kind of psychic
Speaker 3: remote viewing ESP phenomenon. Now, whether people want to believe
Speaker 3: that psychic's remote viewing and ESP is actually real or not,
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. The government was for a fact studying
Speaker 3: it and they were getting really you know, deep into it.
Speaker 3: The program, the DIA's Army Intelligence Stargate project lasted for
Speaker 3: almost twenty years. They were funding a project to study psychickes,
Speaker 3: ESP and remote viewers. So what I think is going on?
Speaker 3: And I think I mentioned this last time that you know,
Speaker 3: I was on your show. Is that the secret space
Speaker 3: program and all of these stories and all these assets
Speaker 3: and these people that are talking about these fantastical stories
Speaker 3: is a cover for something very real that's going on
Speaker 3: because they pick and choose the things that they want
Speaker 3: to talk about. Right, They'll throw in the mk Ultra
Speaker 3: in there in the beginning, but then they just brush
Speaker 3: over it and be like, oh yeah, right after the
Speaker 3: mk Ultra, I was taken from a jump room in
Speaker 3: New York and California directly to Mars to fight aliens
Speaker 3: with highly advanced technology. And then I was Adri Gruss
Speaker 3: back twenty years and that's how I got out of
Speaker 3: the mk a Ultra programs. It's not that simple, people.
Speaker 3: You just don't get out of an actual government funded
Speaker 3: MK ULTRA mind control program like that. Right, if you
Speaker 3: talk to real people that were involved in mk ultra
Speaker 3: governmental programs, like Kathy O'Brien I talked about her last
Speaker 3: time you've had her on your show. You know, like
Speaker 3: people like that that have legitimately been through mind control
Speaker 3: governmental programs, you just don't get out of that. Right.
Speaker 3: There has to be a scenario or something very special
Speaker 3: that happens in order for you to get out of that, right,
Speaker 3: It's not just a snap of the fingers. They're not
Speaker 3: just going to let you go. You know, they mind
Speaker 3: controlled you, They mind fractured you to do all of
Speaker 3: these different things within the government. Right, They're not just
Speaker 3: gonna let you go. Why in the world would they
Speaker 3: ever let you go. They're going to kill you, right
Speaker 3: because they're not going to take a chance on you
Speaker 3: actually exposing in any of their secrets. Right. So, I
Speaker 3: think that the secret Space program stuff that people that
Speaker 3: the assets and the super soldiers and the people that
Speaker 3: are talking about are either an inserted memory or it's
Speaker 3: a MK ultra technique that's done to depattern the mind
Speaker 3: to make them believe. Because with MK ultra, dude, you
Speaker 3: can make people believe whatever you want them to believe.
Speaker 3: You can make them believe that dinosaurs are still roaming
Speaker 3: around on the earth if you if you want to
Speaker 3: make them believe that. Right, there's processes to the MP culture.
Speaker 3: It's a deepatterning process that removes any logical thinking or
Speaker 3: critical thinking within the mind of the person that you're
Speaker 3: MK altering. Right, And then you do this technique it's
Speaker 3: called psychic driving, which is a repeated audio message or
Speaker 3: a TV screen with a message on it that's looped, right,
Speaker 3: and you can put whatever you want on that audio
Speaker 3: message or on that TV screen to make the subject
Speaker 3: believe whatever you want them to believe. And then whenever
Speaker 3: you've mind fractured their consciousness and split their personality and
Speaker 3: created this subcategory of consciousness within their brain, that message
Speaker 3: trickles down into the brain. That's what they're remembering. Right.
Speaker 3: All these people talk about, you know, the mind fracturing process.
Speaker 3: They've been split consciously several times, like they all claim
Speaker 3: that they have, you know, fifty to sixty altars or whatever. Right,
Speaker 3: all that is is the mind has been fractured. There's
Speaker 3: been a certain message or a certain idea or a
Speaker 3: certain thought that's been inserted into that alter and then
Speaker 3: there's a bleed through and they're remembering part of that
Speaker 3: scenario that they were programmed to believe. And that's created
Speaker 3: the whole confusion behind it, right, And that's why people
Speaker 3: are believing that they're actually a part of a secret
Speaker 3: space program force fighting aliens when it's not real. It's
Speaker 3: not true. They planted with those thoughts and those ideas
Speaker 3: and those beliefs and yeah, I do believe that it's
Speaker 3: a huge operation to cover up real things that are
Speaker 3: happening on the Earth, and they've done an amazing job
Speaker 3: at it. Right, nobody wants to talk about real, rudimentary,
Speaker 3: secret space program stuff like the actual craft that we've
Speaker 3: developed and that we've engineered and that we've created on
Speaker 3: our own, or what actually might be happening in space.
Speaker 3: They want the exaggerated, fairy tale bullshit stee that isn't
Speaker 3: provable at all. Right, it's taking everything away from the
Speaker 3: real things that are happening in conjunction for some extravagant
Speaker 3: space opera Blue Chicken story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now I want to throw this possibility out there.
Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, I've had my own what I
Speaker 1: consider actual experiences. I've had contact experiences with not only
Speaker 1: would I consider my spirit guides, but other types of entities.
Speaker 1: And in just recently I have I go on vision
Speaker 1: what I call vision quests.
Speaker 2: I use large doses of.
Speaker 1: Magic mushrooms, and there are times when I actually exit
Speaker 1: my body and experience what I perceive to be an
Speaker 1: actual experience in a different realm where I actually encounter intelligences.
Speaker 1: And like I said, very Rarely do I get information
Speaker 1: about things other than myself, But there have been times
Speaker 1: where I have encountered what I consider intelligences that aren't
Speaker 1: necessarily my direct consciousness that has given me information about things. Now,
Speaker 1: it's never been they've never taken me on space battles
Speaker 1: or gone to fight aliens or anything crazy likes that's
Speaker 1: being claimed in the Secret Space program. But through my
Speaker 1: own experiences, I've come to a belief that there are
Speaker 1: different realities, and there are different realms out there, and
Speaker 1: we can indeed access them. And there are one hundred
Speaker 1: percent different intelligences and entities, whether you want to call
Speaker 1: them angels or extraterrestrials or interdimensional beings are they're out
Speaker 1: there and we can communicate with them, and I have,
Speaker 1: and I'm wondering that could this be not only, you know,
Speaker 1: an experiment on mind control, but could they possibly be
Speaker 1: accessing these other realms via psychedelics, via some of the
Speaker 1: techniques that they've used in mind control, And maybe it's
Speaker 1: not all made up or in planeted memories. Maybe they
Speaker 1: are having actual astral experiences, not off planet, but within themselves,
Speaker 1: because I believe that that's where the universe really is.
Speaker 1: I believe that they try to get us to look
Speaker 1: into space and understand what's out there in the universe
Speaker 1: and aliens and all these things that they've been putting
Speaker 1: in our consciousness. But the real exploration of the universe
Speaker 1: and everything in our consciousness, which is connected to everything,
Speaker 1: is by going in within ourselves, and by that we
Speaker 1: can explore other realms the universe, possibly other planets. I
Speaker 1: don't know for sure, but I know that there is
Speaker 1: something by going within ourselves we can access something that
Speaker 1: is not within our understood reality. And I'm wondering if
Speaker 1: this is what could possibly be happening. Maybe not in
Speaker 1: all the experiments, maybe not in any of them, but
Speaker 1: I think that in some people's genuine experiences where they're
Speaker 1: having contact, where they're speaking with other intelligences, that they
Speaker 1: are accessing these other realms. And it's not all you know,
Speaker 1: government mind control. That people are naturally having these experiences
Speaker 1: like myself, but that the government could be involved on
Speaker 1: some level to maybe steer the you know, conspiracy community
Speaker 1: consciousness in a certain direction by throwing these people into
Speaker 1: different experiences, different realms, or maybe they're, like you said,
Speaker 1: just implanting these false memories. There's it's all possibilities for me.
Speaker 3: And see the difference between you and and Corey Good
Speaker 3: on this is that you have admitted from the very
Speaker 3: beginning that your experiences have been due to vision quests. Right, yeah,
Speaker 3: You've claimed that from the very beginning, right, So I
Speaker 3: can't be like, oh yeah, Chris was saying that this
Speaker 3: whole thing was physical and you was, you know, doing
Speaker 3: it on his own and and all that. No, we
Speaker 3: we everyone that's listened to your show, you know, me
Speaker 3: talking to you and me listening to you, like, we
Speaker 3: know that it was a vision quest, right. That's the
Speaker 3: that's the difference here. You were never claiming these experiences
Speaker 3: were real, that they were you know, physical real experiences.
Speaker 3: There were inner experiences, right, that's for the the issue
Speaker 3: and the problem.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well, discounting Corey good I'm talking about government
Speaker 1: projects people that are having these experiences. Could they be
Speaker 1: could they have knowledge of other realms and maybe they're
Speaker 1: using these people to, I don't know, maybe have some
Speaker 1: kind of black projects done in these other realms to
Speaker 1: interact with these entities for certain reasons. And that is
Speaker 1: the actual memories that they're having or you know that
Speaker 1: it's just a possibility to me, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I want to know what you think about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an interesting concept, and I think that there
Speaker 3: there are some validity to that because we do know
Speaker 3: that the government was using psychedelics such as LSD and
Speaker 3: mushrooms in their experimentation, and then you know, they some
Speaker 3: of them might not because I don't believe that that
Speaker 3: all of them were involved in a direct MK ultra program.
Speaker 3: So it could be like you're saying that they took
Speaker 3: some kind of psychedelic substance or mushrooms or LSD or
Speaker 3: something on their own and then they had you know,
Speaker 3: these experiences, right, But again, I don't believe that that
Speaker 3: makes the experience real, right, it makes the experience real
Speaker 3: to you, right, And I think that's where the you know,
Speaker 3: the confusion comes from, because I believe that everybody has
Speaker 3: their own, you know, personal journey. Right. If you took
Speaker 3: mushrooms and then I took mushrooms, I'm going to have
Speaker 3: a completely different experience than the experience that you're going
Speaker 3: to have, right, And you can't cote your entire experience
Speaker 3: on mushrooms because it's your personal journey for everybody, right,
Speaker 3: it's your own personal, you know, experience, right. You can't
Speaker 3: come out and say, oh, well, you know I had this, uh,
Speaker 3: this this journey, this you know this this plant medicine journey,
Speaker 3: and this is the way things are. No, that's a
Speaker 3: that's an inner personal journey, and now you can speak
Speaker 3: about it personally like you have. I don't think you've
Speaker 3: ever claimed before that this is the way that the
Speaker 3: things are, and everyone should. You know, take everything that
Speaker 3: I'm saying for one hundred percent fact. You're just presenting
Speaker 3: the information, right, You're presenting your experience, right, You're not
Speaker 3: claiming that it's one hundred percent factor that is, you know,
Speaker 3: one hundred percent real. I don't know if I'm you know,
Speaker 3: explaining that in the exact best way, but I think
Speaker 3: that it's an if. If these people are, which I
Speaker 3: do think that a lot of them are, I think
Speaker 3: a lot of them are doing drugs of all different kinds, right,
Speaker 3: not just not just psychedelic mushrooms, but some of them
Speaker 3: seem to be in a drug induced psychosis, which nobody
Speaker 3: talks about. You know, nobody wants to mention, you know,
Speaker 3: harder drugs like you know, methamphetamine and adderall and things
Speaker 3: that will legitimately put you into a psychosis and you'll
Speaker 3: be seeing things that aren't really there and think that
Speaker 3: the CIA has you know, tapped your house and that
Speaker 3: they're listening to you through the walls and through your
Speaker 3: technology and like and all that stuff and hitting you
Speaker 3: with V two K. I think that to a degree,
Speaker 3: psychedelics open us up on a on a really deep level,
Speaker 3: and if you're not protected in that way, then neg
Speaker 3: negative things can infiltrate into your mind. Right. They can
Speaker 3: hit you with V two and make you believe that
Speaker 3: you're taking to an entity from outer space when you're
Speaker 3: on a psychedelic substance. V twok is a very real
Speaker 3: government technology that can implemant thoughts, ideas and legitimately have
Speaker 3: a conversation with you in your head.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: The can make you believe that it's an entity or
Speaker 3: some kind of you know, thing from outside of yourself,
Speaker 3: which it is. But it's the government, and it's a CIA,
Speaker 3: it's a THEIA, it's an essay, it's one of these
Speaker 3: three letter organizations that's doing this. So I do take
Speaker 3: into account, and it's you know, a high possibility that
Speaker 3: some stuff has been a psychedelic experience, and they're coming
Speaker 3: back and passing it off as now. I don't have
Speaker 3: a problem with people using psychedelics. You just have to
Speaker 3: tell people that you're using psychedelics like you are.
Speaker 2: And then that gives people the right information frame of
Speaker 2: reference for what's going on.
Speaker 1: Yes, it does seem that all these truths are coming
Speaker 1: out right now, and it's it's filtering into something that
Speaker 1: we are better understanding as we go.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I agree with that one hundred percent. And you know,
Speaker 3: whenever you dig down deep into a lot of these topics,
Speaker 3: especially you know, evolving the Secret Space Program and UFOs
Speaker 3: and aliens and eats, it's always something much further down
Speaker 3: to earth. I think that a majority of this stuff
Speaker 3: has been happening by our hand, and it's human intelligence
Speaker 3: behind a good ninety to ninety five percent of it,
Speaker 3: and the rest of it has been exaggerated to a
Speaker 3: degree that it's very difficult to figure out the truth,
Speaker 3: you know, like you really have to do some introspection
Speaker 3: on the things that you've previously believed. It's like an
Speaker 3: awakening within an awakening. Right. You get all this information
Speaker 3: from you know, the alternative community, the conspiracy community, the
Speaker 3: UFO community, and then you realize that that stuff was
Speaker 3: bullshit nonsense too, just like the mainstream media feeding us
Speaker 3: all this propaganda and all these lies and covering up
Speaker 3: all this stuff. Right, it's a cover up within a
Speaker 3: cover up is really what's happening. And then you know,
Speaker 3: when people think that they're getting the real information and
Speaker 3: the true information from alternative sources, and then they turn
Speaker 3: around and realize that all these people are just about
Speaker 3: making money and being famous in this community, and that
Speaker 3: they're making up a large percentage of their story. That's
Speaker 3: like a people don't want to accept that. It's exactly
Speaker 3: like being in the mainstream and then starting to veer
Speaker 3: a little bit into the alternative scene. Right, people around
Speaker 3: you that were a part of the mainstream is going
Speaker 3: to be like, oh, wow, you're crazy. You know you're wild.
Speaker 3: I just watched that documentary the other day, Shadowland, that
Speaker 3: came out on Peacock, and I just wanted to watch
Speaker 3: it to see, you know, what they were talking about,
Speaker 3: and you know what they were saying, and they make
Speaker 3: conspiracy theorists look like crazy people basically that they're out
Speaker 3: of their mind, right, And but that's just one level
Speaker 3: of it. Whenever you get into the community and then
Speaker 3: you realize that half that stuff is also bullshit, then
Speaker 3: it's like another layer of the onion that's being peeled back.
Speaker 3: And that's very difficult for people to accept because they
Speaker 3: want to take everybody in this community an alternative community,
Speaker 3: a conspiracy community, in the UFO community, as that they're
Speaker 3: telling the truth, that they're providing real, actual information, when
Speaker 3: a lot of it is not real actual information is
Speaker 3: made up nonsense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's become difficult the past few years, and
Speaker 1: I've come to realize that what probably is the truth lies.
Speaker 2: More in the middle than anything.
Speaker 1: That there are extremes on both sides that are being
Speaker 1: presented that people that they want Pete to follow these
Speaker 1: extreme crazy rabbit holes and get lost in there. It's
Speaker 1: where they don't know what the truth is about a
Speaker 1: certain thing. They've gone so far off the deep end,
Speaker 1: or so far into their research about one certain thing
Speaker 1: that they're lost in there and they can't see a
Speaker 1: bigger picture. But when you step back and look at
Speaker 1: the bigger picture of every thing, the truth usually lies
Speaker 1: somewhere in between those extremes that are being presented.
Speaker 2: And I think you're right.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of what we're seeing being presented
Speaker 1: as aliens and UFOs is us. I think that there
Speaker 1: have been a lot of opportunists that have come out
Speaker 1: in the past few years in this community, but I
Speaker 1: think that there are also a lot of genuine people
Speaker 1: in this community. I think there are people who have
Speaker 1: had genuine experiences with or without the help of psychedelics
Speaker 1: or other drugs. That I think that people that have
Speaker 1: had very high strange encounters with beings and creatures and
Speaker 1: what you might consider as aliens. You know, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure about the whole space travel thing that's to be
Speaker 1: to be talked about later. It's such a muddled discussion there.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to the existence of other life
Speaker 1: and other realms and people's experiences with them, I've also
Speaker 1: come to realize that this is such a personal type
Speaker 1: of phenomenon that most people aren't having group experiences with
Speaker 1: this stuff. They're not being taken in tour buses on
Speaker 1: tours of the universe with aliens, and they're not having,
Speaker 1: you know, group ghostly experiences usually most of the time,
Speaker 1: unless you're part of some kind of elite cult or
Speaker 1: something that knows how to sum and demons. But that's
Speaker 1: a different story again now. But most people have these
Speaker 1: experiences as personal experiences for personal growth, and some of
Speaker 1: them have very terrifying experiences with very unexplained things and
Speaker 1: no association with maybe black projects or governments or mind controls. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, I think the truth always lies in
Speaker 1: the middle. There are some very unexplained things that happen
Speaker 1: in our reality that I think our government black projects
Speaker 1: are trying to understand in certain ways. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of the research that goes on at places like
Speaker 1: Skinwalker Ranch gives proof to that that they don't understand
Speaker 1: what's really going on. And from what I've heard from
Speaker 1: one of my guests recently that is on a ranch
Speaker 1: that has high strange encounters and experiences like that, that
Speaker 1: they say that they've had government officials attempt to go
Speaker 1: out and understand what's going on there, and every time,
Speaker 1: the phenomenon, whatever it is, whether it's an electromagnetic energy,
Speaker 1: whether it's a ghost or a trickster type of entity,
Speaker 1: is always ten steps ahead of these three letter agencies
Speaker 1: or black projects or military or government groups trying to
Speaker 1: come in and understand it. That this phenomenon is always
Speaker 1: ahead of it and always confuses these individuals more than
Speaker 1: it helps them understand anything. And it seems that that
Speaker 1: is intentional, that it doesn't want us to ever understand
Speaker 1: what is going on. And that's one of the things
Speaker 1: that I've actually come to love about paranormal and this
Speaker 1: phenomenon is that it is a trickster and it doesn't
Speaker 1: really it wants us to figure it out on our own,
Speaker 1: and it's never going to present itself outright to where
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, this is what I am and this
Speaker 1: is what's going on.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It kind of wants us our arguing and having these
Speaker 1: discussions and trying to figure out what this is behind reality.
Speaker 1: And I get the feeling that it doesn't want the
Speaker 1: wrong side to figure it out first, and it plays
Speaker 1: games with them. And that's just my personal thoughts on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just whenever people like to blink at the
Speaker 3: entire phenomenon with one thing, right, It's like, if you
Speaker 3: take a Bigfoot researcher to skin Walker Ranch, he'll probably
Speaker 3: come out and say that it's bigfoot, Right. If you
Speaker 3: take a UFO researcher the skin Walker Ranch, they'll tell
Speaker 3: you that it's UFOs and aliens. If you take a
Speaker 3: paranormal investigator the skin Walker Ranch, they'll tell you that
Speaker 3: it's paranormal in ghosts. Right, they're trying to blink at
Speaker 3: the entire phenomenon under one banner, and that's really been
Speaker 3: trying to stay for the while now on my show,
Speaker 3: is that we've been conditioned to believe that it's aliens
Speaker 3: and extraterrestrials when no evidence points to it ever being
Speaker 3: aliens or extraterrestrials. There's more evidence that it's out knowledgy
Speaker 3: from our governments and that they're back engineered beings that
Speaker 3: they've created, that they've created the gray species that are
Speaker 3: a robotic, half organic half inorganic species that they've that
Speaker 3: we've created on this planet to go out and abduct people,
Speaker 3: you know, as far as the so that they don't
Speaker 3: have to take responsibility, so it's not the military that
Speaker 3: people don't see that. It's the military and people in
Speaker 3: the military uniform they're seeing these genetically altered engineered species
Speaker 3: of Grays that they have created rights so that they
Speaker 3: don't have to take responsibility for it. Now, as far
Speaker 3: as the other phenomenon, I really have no idea because
Speaker 3: there are huge paranormal hotspots all around the planet where
Speaker 3: it seems like that there's you know, this crazy amount
Speaker 3: of weird, high strangeness going on. Right, But we can't
Speaker 3: say that that's aliens. We can't say that that's extraterrestrial.
Speaker 3: There's absolutely zero proof that any of it's extraterrestrial or
Speaker 3: that it's aliens. Right, there's zero proof that it's you know,
Speaker 3: a paranormal phenomenon. There's zero proof that it's bigfoot. You know,
Speaker 3: it's and they're trying to blinkt the entire thing under
Speaker 3: one label. And that's not the way that it works.
Speaker 3: When there's if something's unexplainable, you just say that it's unexplainable, right,
Speaker 3: you say that I have no ideas, you know. But
Speaker 3: there's people that are like, oh, yeah, it's absolutely aliens,
Speaker 3: extraterrestrials from off our planet. They're coming here to abduct
Speaker 3: and take us. They're here to take our cows and
Speaker 3: molest us and rape us and take our children and
Speaker 3: all that. Like, well, you know, when you think logically
Speaker 3: and critically about it, why would any extraterrestrial race from
Speaker 3: off our planet ever come here to abduct anybody? It
Speaker 3: makes absolutely no sense, and then they try and spin
Speaker 3: it to where, you know, it's us from the future
Speaker 3: and the time travel is real, and that the Grays
Speaker 3: have a defective DNA line and they're coming to abduct
Speaker 3: humans in order to you know, repair their DNA and
Speaker 3: the future and to warn us about the future. It's
Speaker 3: just all made up shit. You know, no one's ever
Speaker 3: heard that directly from an extraterrestrial It's just theories and speculation,
Speaker 3: and they've taken those theories in that speculation as a
Speaker 3: way to try and explain the phenomena in order to
Speaker 3: try and wrap our head around what's going on. When
Speaker 3: it's not the truth, you know, it's crazy, and you
Speaker 3: know that that's really what a lot of this is
Speaker 3: is theories and speculation. And when people can admit that
Speaker 3: it's theories and speculation and that it's not factual and
Speaker 3: that there's no evidence for any of this stuff, I believe,
Speaker 3: then we can get somewhere and then then it won't
Speaker 3: be such a hot topic because they're they're passing it
Speaker 3: off as truth and real and physical. You know, that's
Speaker 3: my biggest problem, and it should be everybody's biggest problem
Speaker 3: with a lot of these topics. Right, you come out
Speaker 3: and say, hey, like, I have no idea, but this
Speaker 3: is my thoughts and my ideas on it. Right, we
Speaker 3: have no proof that this is real. But here's my explanation,
Speaker 3: which is, you know, really what I try to do.
Speaker 3: Everyone's basically just winging on this thing on all these topics. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're one hundred person.
Speaker 1: That's the way that I've always approached this show is
Speaker 1: is this possible?
Speaker 2: Could this be the answer?
Speaker 1: And what's happened, especially in the past few years in
Speaker 1: our community is there's been too many people saying that
Speaker 1: this is the answer, this is the way it is,
Speaker 1: and there's no other way it can be, And then
Speaker 1: the other ways present themselves as they always do, and
Speaker 1: they end up their paradigm ends up crumbling. And this
Speaker 1: happens with many people who unfortunately crawl into this conspiratorial
Speaker 1: or broadcasting space. They get stuck with a certain idea,
Speaker 1: are a certain belief system that drags them into oblivion
Speaker 1: because their belief system is crumbled. Now, you know, I
Speaker 1: do think, I do believe personally there are there are
Speaker 1: beings and unexplained things around us at all time. And
Speaker 1: that's just based off of my own personal experiences in
Speaker 1: my truths and things that that I've come to understand.
Speaker 1: But from what I'm hearing from you is that you
Speaker 1: currently are leaning towards there that most of what we
Speaker 1: consider to be extraterrestrial or paranormal experiences is our government.
Speaker 3: The paranormal stuff is really a completely separate thing. I
Speaker 3: don't think I've ever had a straight paranormal investigator on
Speaker 3: my show. That might be the next topic that I
Speaker 3: try and dive into after I'm done with the Stargate
Speaker 3: project and the military involvement in the psychics and remote yours.
Speaker 3: I try and kind of take one topic out of
Speaker 3: time and figure it out and then try and put
Speaker 3: the picture together like I, you know, started out with
Speaker 3: you know, the ETS and the UFOs, And once I
Speaker 3: felt comfortable that I figured out, you know, well, that
Speaker 3: I felt satisfied that I had figured out that phenomenon
Speaker 3: and really what was going on, then I moved on
Speaker 3: and I moved on to the remote viewing and the
Speaker 3: psychic in the esp that the government we're doing studies on.
Speaker 3: And then once I'm done with that, then I'll move
Speaker 3: on to something else. And I'm not gonna talk about
Speaker 3: the exact same thing forever. It's it's you know, it's
Speaker 3: a it's a process. But as far as the paranormal
Speaker 3: stuff goes, I really have no idea what's going on.
Speaker 3: I've had experiences. I've had paranormal experiences my entire life,
Speaker 3: you know. I remember being a kid waking up in
Speaker 3: the middle of the night, the beans surrounded me in
Speaker 3: my bed, translucent beans coming out of the walls.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I've investigated a lot of the most paranormally active places
Speaker 3: in the United States. Moundsville Penitentiary, Transallgany Lunatic Asylum, Mansfield Penitentiary,
Speaker 3: the Rectory in Cincinnati, Ohio, Trinway Prospect place in Trinwey, Ohio,
Speaker 3: just a bunch of different that place in Louisville, the big,
Speaker 3: huge tuberculosis hospital there. I can't Waverley Hill's Waverley Hills Sanitarium.
Speaker 3: I've been to a lot of these places, and I've
Speaker 3: also investigated people's homes and stuff, and I've experienced a
Speaker 3: lot of unexplainable phenomenon. But as far as exactly what
Speaker 3: it is, I really have no clue.
Speaker 2: Right I don't I want to ask you. You said that you.
Speaker 1: Based on everything that you've done so far with UFOs
Speaker 1: and extraterrestriels, that you've kind of you've moved on, that
Speaker 1: you've absorbed a lot from that topic, that you feel
Speaker 1: you have a good enough understanding. Now, do you think
Speaker 1: that if if different ideas or different understandings would ever
Speaker 1: come up, that you would revisit that or if you
Speaker 1: had any other types of revelations. Because for me, for myself,
Speaker 1: whenever I think that I'm done with a topic or
Speaker 1: you know, that's it, something throws itself in my face,
Speaker 1: just like we were saying and saying, Nope, that's not it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm always constantly rotating and going back to
Speaker 1: different topics and you having topics is because I don't
Speaker 1: think I'll ever have a real understanding of anything I'm covering.
Speaker 2: You know, if I do bless.
Speaker 1: The universe, Thank you baby Jesus for showing me the way.
Speaker 1: But well then I have no idea what's going on.
Speaker 1: And I can continue to, you know, revolve through these topics.
Speaker 1: But if anything ever comes up, if you have a
Speaker 1: different understanding of UFOs, would you revisit.
Speaker 3: I'm constantly always talking about it. I just felt personally
Speaker 3: satisfied with my stance on it. Now, that doesn't mean
Speaker 3: that I'm not going to believe, you know, bring people
Speaker 3: on that leave that they're being visited by extraterrestrials. Right,
Speaker 3: that's the confusion that some people might get it, but
Speaker 3: you don't get through just by interviewing the same kinds
Speaker 3: of people all the time. I'm still open though, all
Speaker 3: kinds of different possibilities, and I can stay open to
Speaker 3: all different kinds of possibilities while still maintaining my personal
Speaker 3: belief in the right, I have my personal belief, and
Speaker 3: then other people have their own personal belief, and I
Speaker 3: can still keep my personal belief while also taking on
Speaker 3: somebody else's information. Right, It's just like a roll of
Speaker 3: dex of information. I mean, I just had you know,
Speaker 3: augnosed on the other day, and he's talking about that
Speaker 3: that they're real, and that they that they're interdimensional and
Speaker 3: they're extra dimensional and all this. You know. I let
Speaker 3: him speak, and I gave my ideas and my thoughts,
Speaker 3: you know, surrounding what I think is going on, right,
Speaker 3: but I didn't discount what he was saying. I'm just like, hey, listen,
Speaker 3: this is what I think is happening. I don't think
Speaker 3: they has anything to do with extraterrestrials or beings traveling
Speaker 3: from space. And then he gave his explanation, and then
Speaker 3: we had a civil conversation. Right, I obviously don't don't
Speaker 3: have the truth. I don't believe anybody has the truth,
Speaker 3: and anybody that tells you that they do have the
Speaker 3: truth is full shit. I only have, like you know,
Speaker 3: I can only figure things out for me personally, and
Speaker 3: then I can share that information that I figured out
Speaker 3: with hopefully to people that I want to listen. But
Speaker 3: I can't understand the confusion. And you know, people saying, oh, well,
Speaker 3: why are you bringing this person on your show? Whenever
Speaker 3: you said that you know ET's and extraterrestrials don't exist
Speaker 3: and they're not hearing physical bodies. Well, you know it's
Speaker 3: never good to only talk to the people share your
Speaker 3: exact views and beliefs, right, You're just creating an echo
Speaker 3: chamber of thoughts, ideas, and beliefs, right if you don't
Speaker 3: get an alternative perspective. Now, that doesn't mean that I'm
Speaker 3: ever going to bring anybody on that I think is
Speaker 3: completely full of shit, because it's never going to happen. Right,
Speaker 3: If I bring somebody on my show, it's going to
Speaker 3: be because I think that they're that they're somewhat legitimate,
Speaker 3: that they have something important to say.
Speaker 1: Now, now I want to go back to the Good
Speaker 1: fiasco to close out a bit. Have you heard anything
Speaker 1: that's going on with will Cox since the trial and
Speaker 1: all this information started coming out? Is he Is he
Speaker 1: still making videos? Is he he's still trying to push
Speaker 1: in some of this bullshit.
Speaker 3: I had heard by somebody. I to be completely honest,
Speaker 3: in one percent, I have never watched one video with
Speaker 3: David wilcokok or one video with Corey Good. I tried
Speaker 3: in the past.
Speaker 1: I watched their bullshit movie when it came out, just
Speaker 1: to see what the fuss was about. Man, was that
Speaker 1: a piece of garbage?
Speaker 3: But yeah, people have sent me videos of David Wolcock
Speaker 3: and Corey Good talking and I watched it for five
Speaker 3: minutes and I've turned it off every single time. I
Speaker 3: just can't listen to it. There's just something about the
Speaker 3: bullshit and nonsense that was coming out of their mouth
Speaker 3: and I just could not possibly listen to, you know.
Speaker 3: And now I have listened to people commenting on you
Speaker 3: know videos of Corey Good and David Wilcock, you know,
Speaker 3: for fun like Steven Cambian on True Secrets. He does
Speaker 3: all that momentary stuff and you know, trying to expose
Speaker 3: the frauds and the fakes within the community. But as
Speaker 3: far as David Wolcott goes, I haven't heard of any
Speaker 3: statements or but he's been completely thrown under the bus.
Speaker 3: Everybody that's supported Corey Good's statement at any time in
Speaker 3: the history of them being a public figure, it has
Speaker 3: to come in the question now. And he had a
Speaker 3: lot of supporters, A lot of people were supporting him
Speaker 3: and confirming his story, right, Tony rod Riggs confirming his story,
Speaker 3: Loura Eisenhower confirming his story, you know, many times, Johann
Speaker 3: Fritz confirming his story.
Speaker 1: Doctor Michael Salad. Yeah, they had plenty of people who
Speaker 1: piggybacked off his success and they they they got pretty
Speaker 1: far with it. But unfortunately, now that all this is
Speaker 1: coming out, I'm wondering where this is going to leave
Speaker 1: the Secret Space community and all the millions of people
Speaker 1: who were latching onto this story. I mean, is it
Speaker 1: possible that we could really move on and try and
Speaker 1: figure out what is going on behind this? Is this
Speaker 1: some sort of large mk ultra program. Why are now
Speaker 1: or that they introducing UFOs into our consciousness and portraying
Speaker 1: them as a threat. Why is all this stuff happening
Speaker 1: and coinciding with everything that happened with COVID and the
Speaker 1: jabs and where we're headed as collectively. I mean, all
Speaker 1: these things are connected in some way. It's just a
Speaker 1: matter of figuring it out with and sifting through all
Speaker 1: the bullshit that people are trying to present in this community.
Speaker 1: Whether it's COVID bullshit or alien bullshit. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of bullshit to shift sift.
Speaker 2: Through right now.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the point. Just like you said
Speaker 1: with the Shadowland documentary, they want to not only discredit
Speaker 1: people who want to have open discussions like this and
Speaker 1: talk freely about these things.
Speaker 2: And just like we're.
Speaker 1: Doing, we are discussing this. We may not have the
Speaker 1: exact same viewpoints on all this stuff, but we're bringing
Speaker 1: this information out there. And that's what terrifies the people,
Speaker 1: the gatekeepers and those that don't want this information discussed
Speaker 1: is people who are just honestly discussing this and throwing
Speaker 1: out the possibilities out there instead of just throwing out
Speaker 1: one bullshit possibility that we need to believe no matter what,
Speaker 1: and if you don't, you're going to be a shun
Speaker 1: from whatever community you're part of.
Speaker 2: So that's what we're facing right now.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what Corey Good was. Corey Good was a gatekeeper.
Speaker 3: He constantly blocked anybody and ridiculed them and doxed them
Speaker 3: that were claiming to have any similar experiences that he
Speaker 3: had had. And that's exactly what he was doing. And
Speaker 3: you know, he docks several people. There's been several people
Speaker 3: that that has happened to. He's you know, cyber stocked them.
Speaker 3: He's had people his crew and his you know, his
Speaker 3: fan club going after people onlining them emails and saying
Speaker 3: the stop talking about him. And it comes out that
Speaker 3: he thinks that he has a trademark on all of
Speaker 3: those things and it's all part of his intellectual property
Speaker 3: and that he's the only person that can talk about
Speaker 3: any of those things. And that's been happening for a
Speaker 3: really really long time. He's been doing that and that's
Speaker 3: what's given him such a bad name. And that's why
Speaker 3: none of the conference people wanted to have him at
Speaker 3: their conferences. That's been happening before this lawsuit was ever
Speaker 3: a thing. This was like twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, you know,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one. And then there's the people that supported
Speaker 3: him through all of that, you know, and that tried
Speaker 3: to back up his story as legitimate, you know, James Gilliland,
Speaker 3: Peter Maxwell's slattery, the Edge of Wonder, guys like all
Speaker 3: those people all backed his story and supported him through
Speaker 3: all that, you know, and then it all comes out
Speaker 3: as fake. They have to answer to that shit. They
Speaker 3: just can't be let off the hook. You know. It's
Speaker 3: a death blow, is what this is. And it's a
Speaker 3: very very important time. I encourage everybody to not let
Speaker 3: this slide. It can't it can't slide. You know. We
Speaker 3: have to have some version of integrity on the stuff
Speaker 3: that we're talking about, and we can't just let the
Speaker 3: shit go and let him try and build himself back up.
Speaker 3: When he said under oath in court during the deposition
Speaker 3: that he made it all up, that can't go backwards.
Speaker 3: And everyone that's supported him and everyone that's been you know,
Speaker 3: saying that his story is real and legit has to
Speaker 3: they have to take responsibility for that too, And that's
Speaker 3: what I'm that's really my goal here and you know,
Speaker 3: and doing this and talking about this, is that the
Speaker 3: people that you know supported him and propped him up
Speaker 3: and said that his story is real and legit and
Speaker 3: that they saw them in space and that they were
Speaker 3: helping him fight aliens in space and doing all this
Speaker 3: time travel stuff and part of the Alliance, the Spear
Speaker 3: Being Alliance and the White Hats and all this bullshit nonsense.
Speaker 3: Has to take some kind of accountability or some kind
Speaker 3: of responsibility for doing that. They either knew that it
Speaker 3: was fake from the very beginning but instead decided to
Speaker 3: back up his story anyway, or they legitimately didn't know,
Speaker 3: but they were still trying to capitalize on his story
Speaker 3: and become popular or make some kind of money or
Speaker 3: run some kind of scam on people.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: That's a huge thing that came out during that deposition,
Speaker 3: is that he's made millions of dollars off of his
Speaker 3: story and he's portraying that story as a physical, real
Speaker 3: life three D experience, when it was that is the
Speaker 3: problem that is the issue here. It's not the story
Speaker 3: in itself, It was the way that he was presenting
Speaker 3: the story now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now I want to put a call out there
Speaker 1: to anyone that is still claiming to be involved with
Speaker 1: secret space programs, off planet operations. Not necessarily that supports
Speaker 1: Corey good that, but maybe supports some of the information
Speaker 1: that came out of that whole movement. Hey, come on
Speaker 1: the show and explain what's really going on. If you
Speaker 1: can come on here and explain in an intelligent way
Speaker 1: and a way that is you know, helps everyone in
Speaker 1: the audience me understand that this is a possibility still.
Speaker 1: I'm open for you to come on the show. I'd
Speaker 1: I'd love for to hear possibilities on how this could
Speaker 1: still be real in sub aspects. But as of now,
Speaker 1: it doesn't look good for any of these guys that
Speaker 1: were in this community, and it just I want it
Speaker 1: makes me want to go deeper and get more answers
Speaker 1: as to what is happening with those individuals that you know,
Speaker 1: I thought truly believed and I thought we're genuine in
Speaker 1: this space, you know. I want to talk to them
Speaker 1: again and get their thoughts on this and maybe revisit
Speaker 1: some of this stuff and see if maybe some of
Speaker 1: them want to admit.
Speaker 2: Something I don't know, maybe not.
Speaker 1: Well, see it's it's interesting to see how all this
Speaker 1: will unfold.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is really interesting. But really quick before we go,
Speaker 3: I know, we got to wrap up. All that they're
Speaker 3: going to do is shift blame. They're going to be
Speaker 3: like I said, he was lying from the beginning. I
Speaker 3: was out against them from the beginning. And he said
Speaker 3: all this stuff. He was infiltrated into the community to
Speaker 3: cover up real secret space program and real super soldiers
Speaker 3: that are out there fighting it. We've already seen that.
Speaker 3: That's already happened. They're already doing that. They're already trying
Speaker 3: to uh divert the attention from you know, from them
Speaker 3: and make their stories out to be real. They're actually
Speaker 3: using it as an excuse to claim that they have
Speaker 3: the real version of the story when they all witness
Speaker 3: the exact same car crash. Bro, they all seen it,
Speaker 3: they were all part of it from the very beginning.
Speaker 3: You know, that's just you know, my thoughts. I think
Speaker 3: that it's all bullshit, nonsense, and it's all made up,
Speaker 3: and you know, and they have to take responsibility for that,
Speaker 3: and they have to own up to you know them,
Speaker 3: you know, supporting them, but Again. The problem is is
Speaker 3: that they've built their entire personality and their entire career
Speaker 3: online backed by this persona that they've created. Right, So
Speaker 3: even if they believe, which I know for a fact,
Speaker 3: a hand fold them know that it's all bullshit and nonsense,
Speaker 3: that it's not real, that it's made up, right, But
Speaker 3: they can't say that because if they do, they completely
Speaker 3: lose their audience, They lose all the people that ever
Speaker 3: listen to them. You know, it makes them look like
Speaker 3: a fool, and they're not going to do that, so
Speaker 3: they have to double down on everything that they've set
Speaker 3: so far.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a sad thing to see happen. But
Speaker 1: one another thing that I have come to realize, especially
Speaker 1: during the times we're in right now, is this is
Speaker 1: an era where everything is coming to light. You can't
Speaker 1: hide these with behind these lies anymore. For whatever cosmic reasons,
Speaker 1: for whatever area of space that we're headed into, or
Speaker 1: whatever cosmic energies are hitting in whatever kind of awakening
Speaker 1: we're in, truth is emerging and lies are not surviving anymore.
Speaker 1: And it's a beautiful thing to see unfolding. And it's
Speaker 1: it's wonderful to see all the things that are coming
Speaker 1: to light right now, not only surrounding Secret Space Program
Speaker 1: and all the weird shit that we talk about, but
Speaker 1: in our own reality parapolitics, in our own communities, and
Speaker 1: in our own personal lives. The truth is coming out
Speaker 1: right now and it's a beautiful thing to see happen.
Speaker 1: And writer, thank you so much, brother, before you hit out.
Speaker 1: Let everyone know where they can find all your good stuff.
Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Chris. I appreciate you a lot. And yes,
Speaker 3: it's a very exciting time to be in this community.
Speaker 3: You know, Like whenever I first started my channel, like
Speaker 3: I had like a lot of fire under my belt,
Speaker 3: you know, I was like, yeah, this is awesome, sweet,
Speaker 3: you know, let's do this. Let's you know, try and
Speaker 3: get dig down to the truth of all this stuff.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I did interview some of these people in
Speaker 3: the past, and I have interviewed some of the you know,
Speaker 3: super soldiers, some of the Secret Space Program people. But
Speaker 3: as things developed, some just did not set right with
Speaker 3: me about the entire thing, right, and I dug deeper
Speaker 3: and I have you know, I never took them as
Speaker 3: what they were seeing is one hundred percent truthful. There
Speaker 3: was always that thing in the back of my head
Speaker 3: that was like, yeah, I don't know about this whole thing.
Speaker 3: And then that's when I started digging deeper into it, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, well, I'm want to figure it out.
Speaker 3: I'm going to get taught him of it, you know,
Speaker 3: and try and figure out exactly what's going on here.
Speaker 3: And every time that I thought that, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: like at a not really a low point, but you know,
Speaker 3: not really sure where to go with something next. And
Speaker 3: I was just thinking, like last year, well, at the
Speaker 3: beginning of this year, beginning of twenty twenty two, I
Speaker 3: was like, damn, I really miss them, you know, the
Speaker 3: intriguing part of this community. Right during COVID and like
Speaker 3: twenty twenty it was like booming, bro it was like
Speaker 3: everybody was talking about all kinds of stuff, you know,
Speaker 3: it was exciting, you know. And now I think we've
Speaker 3: hit this other level of the community right now, in
Speaker 3: this very moment that's just as exciting as what was
Speaker 3: happening in twenty twenty in just a different kind of way.
Speaker 3: Right it's all getting let out, it's all getting exposed,
Speaker 3: and I really couldn't be happier about that. I think
Speaker 3: that It's a wonderful time to be a part of
Speaker 3: this community and be doing this stuff. And I'm very,
Speaker 3: very excited about where all this leads and what happens
Speaker 3: from here in this con continuing lead developing story, and
Speaker 3: how many other videos comes out, and the responses of
Speaker 3: these people, and how this community really fares and goes
Speaker 3: forward from this, especially the Secret Space program and the
Speaker 3: Super Soldier community, because there's no other way that it
Speaker 3: can really possibly go. They have to create all these
Speaker 3: excuses and all this stuff which can easily have holes
Speaker 3: poked in them. Again, Chris, thanks so much for having
Speaker 3: me on your show. If people are interested in checking
Speaker 3: out my work, thinking give me on rock Fan at
Speaker 3: Raised by Giants, all the different podcast platforms, on the
Speaker 3: Forbid Knowledge News Network, and on YouTube at Raised by Giants.
Speaker 3: Thanks again so much, and thanks to the audience for
Speaker 3: watching and listening.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you all, sweetness. Yes, we're gonna have to keep
Speaker 1: us updated on this developing story. I'm sure we'll be
Speaker 1: doing more episodes about this and all the crazy shit
Speaker 1: that's unfolding. Look forward to that writer. Thank you so much,
Speaker 1: and until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening.
Speaker 2: We will talk again tomorrow. We'll see all then.
Speaker 1: Today, I want to welcome back to the show, Randy Weidenheimer.
Speaker 1: He is a host of Guys original series Quantum Effect,
Speaker 1: as well as a featured guest and Undisclosed. He has
Speaker 1: also appeared in Open Minds with Regina Meredith and Beyond
Speaker 1: Belief with George Nori. He is an energy healer and
Speaker 1: a member of the Patawatami tribe. He learned at a
Speaker 1: very young age the power of plants and vibration in
Speaker 1: the healing process. At around the age of nineteen, he
Speaker 1: began his in depth studies of martial arts, which led
Speaker 1: to other forms of energy transfer and healing practices from
Speaker 1: world renowned masters and teachers. He developed a healing method
Speaker 1: he calls creative energetic health. Randy, welcome back.
Speaker 2: How you doing.
Speaker 4: I'm doing great. Good to see you again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great to see you. It's been a while since
Speaker 1: you've been on. Today, I think we're gonna dive deeper
Speaker 1: into true nature of how we really interact with all
Speaker 1: the energy and information surrounding us at all times. We're
Speaker 1: gonna discuss discuss some things that you're currently looking at,
Speaker 1: like biohacking and field information flows and interferences. We're gonna
Speaker 1: find out all about that. But since it's been so long,
Speaker 1: remind the audience a bit about your background and what
Speaker 1: led you down the path here on.
Speaker 4: I think there was a country in Western song that said,
Speaker 4: God bless the crooked road that led me to you.
Speaker 4: I think that's true for everyone, and mine might have
Speaker 4: been more crooked than most. But at a very early age.
Speaker 4: I mean it's seven eight years old, I've become fascinated
Speaker 4: with physics, and in particular nuclear physics. Kind of an
Speaker 4: odd thing for an eight year old, but by thirteen
Speaker 4: it was laser physics, and by fifteen or sixteen it
Speaker 4: was quantum physics. And so it's kind of like catching
Speaker 4: a cold you can't get rid of. You know, you're
Speaker 4: continually fighting with it or engaged with it, is the
Speaker 4: way I refer to it. And as you go along,
Speaker 4: you start learning the language, and if you keep going,
Speaker 4: you start learning that the language is also present and
Speaker 4: everything from spirituality to psychology to just all kinds of things.
Speaker 4: So one of the things I do is what I
Speaker 4: call cultural appropriation of quantum physics language. And when I
Speaker 4: did that started doing that, that was like twenty five
Speaker 4: years ago, I was at a science and consciousness conference
Speaker 4: and I started talking about that in that way, and
Speaker 4: they basically all thought I was crazy. And now it's commonplace.
Speaker 4: It's commonplace to talk about these things, and so I
Speaker 4: think that's the typical path. The first year crazy and
Speaker 4: then they kind of accept it, and then like they
Speaker 4: just passed you by and forget where it came from. Right,
Speaker 4: But those were fascinating conversations because there were all kinds
Speaker 4: of people of these conferences, and one of the things
Speaker 4: that were Russian physicists, and they were a lot farther
Speaker 4: along than we were in the application of some of
Speaker 4: these things. And and basically it's applied consciousness. And doctor
Speaker 4: Bill Tiller was a friend of mine and he got
Speaker 4: all enamored with it. I wrote some books about it
Speaker 4: and stuff, and I used to do some consulting with him.
Speaker 4: And that's the ability of anybody to influence their own
Speaker 4: selves and to influence everybody else. So if we keep
Speaker 4: going to come up with like how to win friends
Speaker 4: and influence people, that was a book back in the sixties,
Speaker 4: and and then now we're at like how to be
Speaker 4: a friend to yourself and and how to influence yourself
Speaker 4: actually becomes a phenomenon of quantum physics. It's it's it's
Speaker 4: taking everything outside and actually trying to find out what
Speaker 4: the inside looks like. So, without being too vague, this
Speaker 4: gets into everything from meditation to spirituality to whatever, because
Speaker 4: everything you can influence outside of you, it's like done
Speaker 4: by something inside you. So if we take that and
Speaker 4: keep going, we come up with like, well, the human
Speaker 4: body in human life is a great instruction manual. It
Speaker 4: has all the faculties to be able to explore what
Speaker 4: it means to have consciousness, or to be spiritual or
Speaker 4: all these other things, right, And so then it becomes
Speaker 4: a matter of avoiding the traps. The traps become ideas,
Speaker 4: they become mems, they become viral thoughts literally, and we
Speaker 4: participate in all that. And so at some point you
Speaker 4: start coming back to the ideal, and especially in meditation,
Speaker 4: that maybe you could have an influence on yourself. And
Speaker 4: so I started studying martial arts at very early Asian
Speaker 4: kung fu and martial arts very interesting. If you progress
Speaker 4: beyond the fighting, it's very much about internal development. It's
Speaker 4: about the ability to influence yourself. It's about the ability
Speaker 4: to control your own blood pressure, to control your heartbeat,
Speaker 4: control your respiration, and you've got the ideal subject yourself.
Speaker 4: But these things are require a lot of time and
Speaker 4: a lot of practice, and so most people today want
Speaker 4: ap pial. It's like give me a pill. And of
Speaker 4: course that's where we are, and what I call biohacking
Speaker 4: is very popular right now. The idea you can modify
Speaker 4: yourself well in kung fu and then Nalini yoga and
Speaker 4: a lot of other spiritual practices. I've studied a bunch
Speaker 4: of it over the last fifty years. Is Uh. The
Speaker 4: difference is I decided that every time they'd say you
Speaker 4: could do this or this could be done, I took
Speaker 4: an interest in it and decided, let me practice that
Speaker 4: to the point that I develop a skill set to
Speaker 4: be able to influence my own thoughts, my own energy flows,
Speaker 4: my own heart rate. Uh, you do it. I learned
Speaker 4: to do it to others. And one of the things
Speaker 4: about healing is like when you're doing the healing practices
Speaker 4: of which I do on other people, it's like, excuse
Speaker 4: me a minute, let me work on that on myself. Right,
Speaker 4: let me see what the effect of that is for myself.
Speaker 4: So now back to quantum physical we get into well
Speaker 4: what are you using? What's the operatiorating kind of like
Speaker 4: tools or I mean, this is where the language goes crazy.
Speaker 4: You're using your own energy feel to influence others. They're
Speaker 4: using your thoughts or emotions to power that. And somebody recently,
Speaker 4: very famous said, well, if you want to make a
Speaker 4: change the world, use your emotions, and like that's the
Speaker 4: most horrible way to progress that I can think of,
Speaker 4: But that's my opinion. Okay. The reason is you can't
Speaker 4: sustain an emotion. I mean a lot of people can
Speaker 4: hang onto one, you can be sad for years or
Speaker 4: mad whatever, but you just can't do it. And so basically,
Speaker 4: your electromagnetic field you can increase by all kinds of practice, breathing,
Speaker 4: Proni Yama, just a dozen different things. But the idea
Speaker 4: is the bigger the energy field, the more influence you have.
Speaker 4: Now we know that we call that a charismatic person,
Speaker 4: some of them run for president and so. But the
Speaker 4: idea is that large electro magnetic field is something that
Speaker 4: is you're capably utilizing like a tool, right, you can
Speaker 4: apply it to yourself. So biohacking tries to find all
Speaker 4: these different formulas. I've gone down that path. I've made
Speaker 4: a bunch of formulas that have different benefits. One of
Speaker 4: them was to be able to increase your theory feel
Speaker 4: from about two inches out to about fourteen And it
Speaker 4: tends to work. And it's been around in alchemy and
Speaker 4: different things forever. And that's monotomic gold or you know,
Speaker 4: just different things that you can put together. So people
Speaker 4: are like, you have the baby boomers, seventy five million
Speaker 4: baby boomers, what are they most interested in? Being younger?
Speaker 4: Looking younger? Right, give me cosmetics, give me something. And
Speaker 4: now we get into biohacking. Oh, we're going to call
Speaker 4: that stem cells. Where you're going to call that all
Speaker 4: kinds of things from crisper technology, cast nine to whatever.
Speaker 4: And so that's kind of the current state of affairs.
Speaker 4: But I tend to go in the other direction, which
Speaker 4: is the internal direction. I mean, you can influence your
Speaker 4: hormonal balance, you can influence your oucygen rates, your absorption
Speaker 4: rates of oxygen, carbon, nitrogen, all these different things can
Speaker 4: all be influenced by your ability to learn to interact
Speaker 4: with your own self. It's the best tool in the
Speaker 4: universe human body. So and the best thing to interact
Speaker 4: with that is your own consciouness, as long as it's
Speaker 4: your own consciousness. And there there becomes a problem. It's
Speaker 4: if I'm talking too much interferre.
Speaker 1: No, I just want to I want to stop you
Speaker 1: for a minute, because I want to go back to
Speaker 1: quantum physics.
Speaker 2: You had mentioned a couple of times.
Speaker 1: That you had introduced some ideas to the kind to
Speaker 1: put to the public consciousness before we even real heard
Speaker 1: about this from mainstream quantum physics. What are some of
Speaker 1: the most exciting things that are coming out now in
Speaker 1: quantum sciences that you may have had ideas about in
Speaker 1: the past, And is there anything that they haven't gotten
Speaker 1: to yet that maybe you have had in theories about already.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah. The problem is when you get ahead of people,
Speaker 4: you're considered crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And.
Speaker 4: So I may have joined those ranks at an early age.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know. About twenty five years
Speaker 4: ago they came out with in physics that there was
Speaker 4: more than three or four dimensions, and not to mention
Speaker 4: the names Micheo whatever. He was standing there with a
Speaker 4: bunch of us are saying around, and I said, oh,
Speaker 4: there go, they're going to introduce the idea there's eleven dimensions,
Speaker 4: and I said, didn't you learn to count any higher
Speaker 4: at an early age? And of course that didn't make
Speaker 4: me popular, and I'm not supposed to be that way,
Speaker 4: but I am occasionally. And so so the answer is
Speaker 4: dimensionality is first of all, bad language. So when we
Speaker 4: change that language to intersection, we get a better idea
Speaker 4: what's going on? Right, So a quantum intersection means an
Speaker 4: intersection of energy or information, and in this case, energy
Speaker 4: slowed down is information. Information slowed down is matter. So
Speaker 4: this all ties back to like how do you influence
Speaker 4: the body? Right? If you can change the energy levels,
Speaker 4: which can, then you can change the information club. So
Speaker 4: one of the things in genetics is we have an
Speaker 4: amount of genes we'll call it. Most of them are
Speaker 4: what we call unexpressed. So if there's no energy flowing
Speaker 4: through that gene, think of it as a template, then
Speaker 4: you don't get that outcome. We carry templates for all
Speaker 4: kinds of things. Right, I have brown eyes, some people
Speaker 4: have green or blue. That's a template. Energy information flowing
Speaker 4: or energy flows through that template and out the outcome.
Speaker 4: You look at the outcome. So one of the things
Speaker 4: we do in reality is don't question outcomes, right, we're
Speaker 4: looking at it, so but we can question, well, what
Speaker 4: is the information? What's the energy flowing through that template?
Speaker 4: Where did it come from my mom, my dad? Does
Speaker 4: it come outside of me? Is it epigenetic in nature?
Speaker 4: Is it collective consciousness being an expression of you know,
Speaker 4: physical size or temperament, or it just is on forever,
Speaker 4: probably more than we have time to talk about. But
Speaker 4: if we look at that, now we have the ability
Speaker 4: member internal ourselfs using our own energy that we could
Speaker 4: influence whether that gene expresses or not. Well, this is
Speaker 4: similar to what they're trying to do mechanically through the
Speaker 4: crisper technology and the introduction of genes from outside to
Speaker 4: making a change inside us. And so we have outside
Speaker 4: inside and what I work on is inside inside, like
Speaker 4: you can, you can change it yourself. So that's some
Speaker 4: of the things I work on, and teaching some of
Speaker 4: this stuff of the well.
Speaker 1: That's probably you know, dangerous information to introduce, because then
Speaker 1: we won't be relying on pharmaceuticals and in the medical
Speaker 1: industry and Daddy government as much anymore. We can heal ourselves.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure that those ideas are a threat to
Speaker 1: some people out there.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. One of the things
Speaker 4: I teach is the concept of a baseline. What's your
Speaker 4: baseline and what that means is like, first of all,
Speaker 4: how you or you? That's one of the basic things.
Speaker 4: And through a process of calibration or being able to
Speaker 4: discern the truth, you can come up with a number
Speaker 4: of like how Randy is Randy? How Chris is Chris?
Speaker 4: But we can extend that again. And once you come
Speaker 4: up with what I call a basic truth, do you
Speaker 4: extend it? So I wrote a little book called why Wait,
Speaker 4: not published. I just give it to my students. But
Speaker 4: baseline your caloric intake, baseline, your caloric expression, how much
Speaker 4: you burn off, And that way you can avoid a
Speaker 4: million different diets that are out there. Because if a
Speaker 4: diet worked, it works for some people, but it didn't
Speaker 4: work for everyone. So that's the subjective nature. That's why
Speaker 4: you need to study yourself, right, how do I take
Speaker 4: in calories? How to burn them? Right? And then if
Speaker 4: you want to make changes, you at least have an
Speaker 4: idea of something to measure from a baseline, right, even
Speaker 4: in your own consciousness. And so back to biohacking, and
Speaker 4: everybody wanted to be younger. Hormones have a big effect
Speaker 4: on how you operate. You know, we could think of
Speaker 4: it as the fuel. It's an additive to whatever fuel
Speaker 4: would take in. So the basic human structure operates off oxygen, carbon, glucose,
Speaker 4: a couple other things, or glad rescriptions. That's it. The
Speaker 4: same thing. You could basically find out where you are
Speaker 4: and then where you can do change that, okay, without
Speaker 4: the need of going to things from outside you. And
Speaker 4: as an example, one of my martial arts teachers was
Speaker 4: in la in the seventies and when he came to
Speaker 4: this country, he opened up Healthy Story, vitamins, supplements and
Speaker 4: one day he said, I realized a second like four
Speaker 4: hundred different supplements in a month. And with realization comes
Speaker 4: the truth. He goes, I realized every one of those
Speaker 4: supplements and vitamins, and here we go. Pharmaceutical is everything
Speaker 4: is written in such a way that you go, oh
Speaker 4: my god. I mean, and then you go around the world.
Speaker 4: People are operating at let's say a high efficiency and
Speaker 4: they're not taking any of that. It's like the nuet
Speaker 4: up in Alaska. There's not a green play that a
Speaker 4: thousand months, yet they have normal vitamin sea levels and
Speaker 4: the set and the other. So so there goes all
Speaker 4: diets out the window.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Right, And then the same thing is so, well, if
Speaker 4: you have a metabolic level like when you're sixteen, let's say,
Speaker 4: why don't you have that when you're sixty? And then
Speaker 4: here we go into being able to go through things.
Speaker 4: But again, if you can't discern the truth of it,
Speaker 4: then you have to believe whatever they write down and
Speaker 4: say take this, take that. Ever, so well we're so yeah,
Speaker 4: go ahead.
Speaker 1: I was just going to say, we're living in very
Speaker 1: interesting and encouraging times because this is being realized by people.
Speaker 1: So it makes me happy that people are seeing through
Speaker 1: this and looking for alternatives and listening to folks like self.
Speaker 1: So that's a that's a good thing that we're seeing
Speaker 1: right now. I do want to go back a minute
Speaker 1: to what you were saying about side possible spiritual influences
Speaker 1: that we have to be cautious of these energies that
Speaker 1: could possibly affect us that may not have our best
Speaker 1: interest in mind.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah. There was a third or fourth century Chinese
Speaker 4: flus for Wang Po Okay, and Wang Po wrote the
Speaker 4: following reality is reality. What do you think about reality?
Speaker 4: And how you feel about reality is not reality? And
Speaker 4: welcome to Facebook and Twitter. You're not getting reality, you're
Speaker 4: getting how people think about it and how they feel
Speaker 4: about it, which is highly entertained, right. And so one
Speaker 4: of the things, back to intersections and dimensions. They started
Speaker 4: in and they got up to eleven, and basically the
Speaker 4: conversation got dropped after that. In other words, they came
Speaker 4: to realize that there's a lot more than eleven, which
Speaker 4: is where I was back in the eighties, right, that
Speaker 4: there's more going on here. And the problem is, like
Speaker 4: in the electromagtic spectrum, we occupy such a small portion
Speaker 4: of it, both in our interactions and our receptivity. So
Speaker 4: it doesn't mean the rest of that spectrum doesn't exist,
Speaker 4: but when we go through daily life, most people ignore it.
Speaker 4: They ignore the fact that dogs can hear things that
Speaker 4: we can't, or cats can see things we can't, and
Speaker 4: so those are realities too, but most people don't participate them.
Speaker 4: They don't do things to try to expand their hearing
Speaker 4: or their sensitivity in their different senses. And again that's
Speaker 4: back to martial arts. We were taught all that we
Speaker 4: were taught hot and cold, and you know, up and
Speaker 4: down and this that and the other is exercises to
Speaker 4: be able to develop strength in those areas. In other words,
Speaker 4: being able to be more sensitive. Well, being more sensitive
Speaker 4: is to be more interactive. That's it. So our reality,
Speaker 4: in my thinking, represents about thirty percent of actually what
Speaker 4: goes on. And I think Jay Biden was talking the
Speaker 4: other day about there's a lot more going on around
Speaker 4: us than we're aware of. There's a lot more. We'll
Speaker 4: call them people things, these entities, aliens, spirit, attachments, non
Speaker 4: local consciousness that goes on forever, and people are influenced
Speaker 4: by that. And so all that we learn together is
Speaker 4: I will look together as the field. And I did
Speaker 4: an interview on a book review on asthma the other
Speaker 4: day and the lady asked me, like, well, what's the field?
Speaker 4: And I said, well, nobody's really defined it, but I will.
Speaker 4: And that is all information, all energy, all information, all
Speaker 4: consciousness combined. So well that opens up everything that comes
Speaker 4: to you comes a field that you don't originate it.
Speaker 4: You just become a contact remember the intersection for that
Speaker 4: information because it already exists. And that gets into a
Speaker 4: whole bunch of things from remote viewing, the Tesla and
Speaker 4: everybody else.
Speaker 1: So we just have like a built in antenna or
Speaker 1: receiver to access yeah.
Speaker 4: Right, And remember when we were younger, we just had
Speaker 4: local sessions, three of them and we went off the
Speaker 4: air at midnight. And that's not true anymore. And that
Speaker 4: gets into the fact that in the nineteen hundreds there
Speaker 4: was only one or two electromagnetic influences on a human
Speaker 4: being outside we'll call it. That was the Sun and
Speaker 4: maybe we had telegraph And so if you look at
Speaker 4: him and evolution, we're not geared like right now, there's
Speaker 4: about seventy four electromagnetic waves propagating through the space on
Speaker 4: in it's a microwave, that's TV, it's radiant, it's on
Speaker 4: and on and on. Well, human beings don't adapt that fast.
Speaker 4: It takes generations to adapt to that. And so this
Speaker 4: continuity that occurs, to withdrawal, the non participation in those
Speaker 4: fields that information results in a certain amount of apathy.
Speaker 4: And I think that's kind of what we see around
Speaker 4: the world. We've been hit with so much information. And
Speaker 4: remember in the sixties, information came from a book or
Speaker 4: couple of hours of TV, and now we're trying to
Speaker 4: up our operating speed, is what I call it. So
Speaker 4: and there's ways to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was about to ask you, let's get into
Speaker 1: some of those methods.
Speaker 4: Well, one of them is kind of like we call
Speaker 4: a hierarchical assignment. Is why is that important to you? Okay?
Speaker 4: I mean if you take all of Facebook and Twitter
Speaker 4: and whatever, all the others, Instagram, whatever, and you look
Speaker 4: at that information, you say, why is it important? One
Speaker 4: of my favorites, there was a guy that said a
Speaker 4: lot of studied UFOs for twenty five years, and I say,
Speaker 4: and I know all these people. It was going on
Speaker 4: and on and on, and at the end of it,
Speaker 4: I go, has that made you a better person? Have
Speaker 4: you benefited from that? I know it's given you things
Speaker 4: to talk about and relate to people, and you know
Speaker 4: people don't use some sort of base level. Does this
Speaker 4: benefit me? Right, considering the amount of time I've spent
Speaker 4: on it? Because if you spend an hour a day
Speaker 4: for three years straight, you're going to be more knowledg
Speaker 4: well than the typical PhD out there on any specific subject.
Speaker 4: And so four hours a day of interacting with your
Speaker 4: iPhone is actually not going to produce that change. Right,
Speaker 4: it's actually a stagnation, that is what I call it.
Speaker 4: So if that makes sense, So you can learn all
Speaker 4: that through medicine. Martial arts is a better teacher of it.
Speaker 4: I studying talkt K for about forty years because the
Speaker 4: exercise are meant to develop skills other than physical and
Speaker 4: the physical and the non physical. The intuitive is a
Speaker 4: much better tool to interact with the world, and so.
Speaker 1: We those can offer methods that will counteract these negative
Speaker 1: frequencies and energies that are surrounding us and possibly allow
Speaker 1: us to have access to those frequencies and realms that
Speaker 1: we can't perceive.
Speaker 4: Yes, one of the things to have. Let's say, a
Speaker 4: baby when they're born has a fifty foot energy field
Speaker 4: and by the time you're twenty one year down to
Speaker 4: three feet or less depending on your drugs. And I'll
Speaker 4: caholing this, that and the other. So doing prodiga ama,
Speaker 4: theoga and meditative type things, martial arts specifically, you can
Speaker 4: generate that bigger energy field. Again. Now, some people are
Speaker 4: born with it automatically. We call them charismatics, and people
Speaker 4: want to be around them. We call them energy vampires.
Speaker 4: The current languages call them followers. So because they want energy,
Speaker 4: you have that they don't. You have more energy, and
Speaker 4: so that's the reason they want to be around you.
Speaker 4: You think it's because you're good looking or something, and
Speaker 4: it's not true. The universe really is an energy universe
Speaker 4: and everything goes on as energy exchange. I call them
Speaker 4: injergy equations. So to be around somebody, to eat, somebody
Speaker 4: eat something, to engage in conversation is an equation, and
Speaker 4: you would benefit or be drained by it, plus or mind.
Speaker 4: It's the same thing for diet, it's the same thing
Speaker 4: for basically everything. Right now, how interactive, Well, if you
Speaker 4: can clear a nine foot infield, you're basically going to
Speaker 4: be unaffected by coals, flu a whole bunch of things.
Speaker 4: Even if you were to participate in that, you would
Speaker 4: recover faster than somebody had no energy field or a
Speaker 4: one foot energy field. So if you had a skill,
Speaker 4: having a big energy field out to thirty forty feet
Speaker 4: becomes a real game changer. Now, if you control that space,
Speaker 4: think of it that way. My consciousness and habits or
Speaker 4: in our whole space, Well, that means is denied to
Speaker 4: enter these spirit attachments, demons, jen non local conscience. It
Speaker 4: goes onever and the reason I know one of my
Speaker 4: yoga teachers did yoga to retreat one time and he said,
Speaker 4: I'm going to show you something and there are four
Speaker 4: hundred people there and he controlled the space. And what
Speaker 4: that meant was everything that was attached to your parents,
Speaker 4: your grandparents, any kind of entities or demons or whatever
Speaker 4: you want to call it. He basically held in abeyance abeyance.
Speaker 4: He held them out of our field for about a
Speaker 4: minute to two minutes, and it was the most phenomenal
Speaker 4: thing in the world. Is literally like being a lower gravity, right.
Speaker 4: He just felt like wow, he felt expansive, Okay, And
Speaker 4: at the end of the time he collapsed the field
Speaker 4: and it was a pretty day and immediately there was
Speaker 4: like a thunderclap and lightning and hailstorm and everything else
Speaker 4: as that field collapse back in So quantum physics field
Speaker 4: collapse every moment represents quantum collapse. And so now we
Speaker 4: get to a really important thing. The world is perfect
Speaker 4: at every given moment. Quantum physics sells us that by
Speaker 4: quantum collapse, if it could have been different, it would
Speaker 4: have been different. So it can only go from perfection
Speaker 4: to perfection, no matter how much people don't like that idea, Okay,
Speaker 4: but it does give you back to a baseline. It
Speaker 4: gives you a place to start, so at any given
Speaker 4: point in your life, you can start. That's the most
Speaker 4: important thing. You can start by applying yourself to any
Speaker 4: kind of discipline or information or pursuit that will result
Speaker 4: in not just you being better. But then I call
Speaker 4: it not being a burden on the universe. Is that
Speaker 4: you then have the ability to help others.
Speaker 1: So yes, yes, I love it. I want to get
Speaker 1: your thoughts on a sort of spiritual I don't want
Speaker 1: to say argument, but two different schools of belief. One
Speaker 1: is that we are able to access other forms of
Speaker 1: life through the universe by space travel and going travel
Speaker 1: to planets. The other one is that the real universe
Speaker 1: is the innerverse, and it's basically for us to access
Speaker 1: through ourselves, and it is the the realms that's around
Speaker 1: us at all times that we can't perceive. And I
Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts on that is there. Do
Speaker 1: you believe that there is life outside of of our
Speaker 1: planet in the universe in the traditional sense or do
Speaker 1: you think it is more of layers and layers of reality.
Speaker 4: Yes, both both they are when you do remote viewing,
Speaker 4: or what to call gos surfing, the universe, the field
Speaker 4: you come across information sets. This gets into set theory
Speaker 4: and a book I've been working on for five years
Speaker 4: called Approximate Reality. Your reality is very limited. It's you
Speaker 4: don't exist in Dallas, Texas at the moment, right, So
Speaker 4: we want to provide a benefit to people. Let's say
Speaker 4: I'm in Oklahoma and head to Dallas. When I start,
Speaker 4: let's say ninety nine percent in Oklahoma, one percent in Dallas.
Speaker 4: But there's a quantum switch that occurs at some point
Speaker 4: along that journey where I'm basically nineteen percent in Dallas
Speaker 4: and only one percent in Oklahoma, let's say, and that
Speaker 4: occurs at like maybe ten or twenty percent into the trip.
Speaker 4: It doesn't occur like where it flips over and I'm
Speaker 4: immediately in Dallas. Does that make sense, right? So what
Speaker 4: happens is my consciousness has already occupied the space of Dallas,
Speaker 4: we'll call it where I'm going. And when I discovered this,
Speaker 4: I always play with things. I discovered that one of
Speaker 4: the things that happens when you travel, like on a motorcycle,
Speaker 4: car or jet plane. Your energy field streams out behind you,
Speaker 4: and when you get to wherever you're going, you have
Speaker 4: what's called jetlag. Right, everybody's familiar with it. So one
Speaker 4: of the things I discovered is I could project my
Speaker 4: energy field ahead of me, not behind me. Projected ahead
Speaker 4: of me, go ahead and put it in dubtless and
Speaker 4: when I'm arrive and that's guess what, I've just caught
Speaker 4: up to myself and I have no jet lag. So
Speaker 4: I fly all over the world. I don't have jetlink
Speaker 4: right now, how do you do that? It's just a
Speaker 4: matter of practicing, thinking about yourself, thinking about your energy
Speaker 4: feel and go ahead and place in it somewhere else. Oh,
Speaker 4: it placed your consciousness on somebody or something. That's quantum physics.
Speaker 4: Because you start having an influence on that, you start
Speaker 4: having a presence. And so there's something for people that fly.
Speaker 4: You can try that and work out it. You'll be
Speaker 4: surprised what you get to a long trip and you're
Speaker 4: not tired.
Speaker 1: So now I want to get to some of the
Speaker 1: other techniques that you were mentioning. One of them Kundalini yoga.
Speaker 1: But something else that caught my ear. You you mentioned
Speaker 1: the Gin. And I've heard these entity spoken about a
Speaker 1: couple of times on my show from different guests, and
Speaker 1: I want to get your understanding of what these what
Speaker 1: these are.
Speaker 4: Non local consciousness okay, non local member Dallas, it doesn't exist, well,
Speaker 4: it exists as an identifier as a location. And this
Speaker 4: is where an intersection becomes better information identification than dimension. Okay.
Speaker 4: So when you saying earlier, like are the physical beings, yes,
Speaker 4: their physical beings out in the universe. Are there beings
Speaker 4: that exist in what we would call a non material universe? Yes, okay,
Speaker 4: So di Gin operate in a non material universe. So
Speaker 4: does the astra lower astral. Like just if you go
Speaker 4: through the esoteric texts, you can find millions of them.
Speaker 4: Tiger Spain by sirih Paul Twitchell. Listen, I think four
Speaker 4: thousand of them, domains, universes, kingdoms, and we have that
Speaker 4: language come through us with l and you know all
Speaker 4: these different the fairies, the little people in native American language,
Speaker 4: that is existing, but they don't exactly exist in our reality.
Speaker 4: So this is getting wrapped around that Dallas doesn't exist
Speaker 4: unless you're in Dallas. Okay, local reality, So Gin operate
Speaker 4: right as an operating conscious. Well, if you exist for
Speaker 4: hundreds or thousand years instead of our seventy, which is restriction,
Speaker 4: then you might develop the skill to be interactive, not
Speaker 4: just in a non material fashion, but in a material fashion.
Speaker 4: And all those interactions we have determined as being demonic
Speaker 4: for the most part, although we sit around and talk
Speaker 4: about the reciprocal which is angels. Okay, So, and all
Speaker 4: of them are described to have certain powers. Well, power
Speaker 4: is just the ability to focus energy. When you can
Speaker 4: focus energy, if you develop that skill, or if you
Speaker 4: become what it called mono minded, then if you die,
Speaker 4: you can still you know, knock on wood around, you know,
Speaker 4: people you've been related to, or appear as an apparition
Speaker 4: or things like that. So apparition, if we look at
Speaker 4: it like a jin is not exactly physical, but they're
Speaker 4: not exactly non physical. What they become is become interactive. Okay.
Speaker 4: So there's people more interactive than others. We call them
Speaker 4: what do you call it? Psychics? Seans people. This has
Speaker 4: been going one thousand years. It's just that when science
Speaker 4: came along and became the new religion, we got rid
Speaker 4: of the old religions. We got rid of the old
Speaker 4: religions that said that somebody has schizophrenia had entities, right,
Speaker 4: they had spirits in them, and there would be like
Speaker 4: in the Native American Novajo, have a blessing way, have
Speaker 4: some way to get that out of that person, to
Speaker 4: break that connection. And I'll put it in modern terms,
Speaker 4: if you've ever been married and divorced, you might need
Speaker 4: to break that connection.
Speaker 1: So I think that these outside influences were talking about earlier,
Speaker 1: like different harmful frequencies, and not only that, substances drugs
Speaker 1: can actually attract some of the entities.
Speaker 4: Well, actually what they do is open you up. So
Speaker 4: if you look at like a nine foot inters view
Speaker 4: as a sphere, what if it has an opening. What
Speaker 4: if you've done marijuana, hard drugs, this, that and the other,
Speaker 4: knocked in the head, high fevers, All those represent openings
Speaker 4: that allow that information or energy to come into you. Okay,
Speaker 4: And and people like I love things like the atauasca. Right.
Speaker 4: It's like when that first started as a craze, I
Speaker 4: got calls from London to Europe all over the world
Speaker 4: going help. Once you get in and open up something
Speaker 4: like that, you don't have the information, energy, education ability
Speaker 4: to deal with it. And of course that's one of
Speaker 4: the things I was trained in. So I'm able to
Speaker 4: help those people that open up a connection. Right, think
Speaker 4: about having the ghost in your house. I get rid
Speaker 4: of them. I used to have a nice little business
Speaker 4: of de ghosts and houses because all it means is
Speaker 4: something else is living in that space. Well, now we
Speaker 4: go back to a human being. How many things are
Speaker 4: living in your space? Right? Are you a many? Me?
Speaker 4: Your mom or dad? Right, that's your mom or dad
Speaker 4: living in you or through you. And you know, if
Speaker 4: you're made to be Chris, then I want you to
Speaker 4: be Chris. No entities, no spirit, none of the no
Speaker 4: connections right, zero. And now you're in an innery state
Speaker 4: where you can say, hey, I can actually benefit myself.
Speaker 4: At this point, you can increase your energy, you can
Speaker 4: increase your residence of being Chris. And at that point
Speaker 4: you're able to influence connect with other people and a
Speaker 4: much much more energetic way. We'll just say, like I said,
Speaker 4: the language is trying to invent the language of it.
Speaker 4: That's when we borrow culture, appropriation, quantity, physics things. Right, So.
Speaker 1: Would you consider these this is kind of a two
Speaker 1: part question. Would you consider these part of what is
Speaker 1: considered source or or or creation or God? And what's
Speaker 1: your idea of what source is?
Speaker 4: Remember that I use the field definition all information, all energy,
Speaker 4: all consciousness when you separate it, and that's a human
Speaker 4: thing to pigeonhole, to put a box. As soon as
Speaker 4: you identify thing, you have limited the amount of information
Speaker 4: available to you about that subject. I know, this gets
Speaker 4: really entangled, right. So if you say God, I say
Speaker 4: which one? Then presently on the planet there's about four
Speaker 4: thousand and thirty one of them. I think last saw
Speaker 4: my checked. Okay, So, but everybody knows what they're talking about.
Speaker 4: It's just that you can stand to the next to
Speaker 4: another person and they do not have the same exact information.
Speaker 4: That's order themouts see. So and of course the last
Speaker 4: time we talked, that's where I said, believe is insufficient. Right.
Speaker 4: Knowing this as an absolute so without getting into rock
Speaker 4: and roll. So so, knowing God more important than my
Speaker 4: God is what I call it.
Speaker 1: So say they are a separation from that energy field.
Speaker 4: What you're doing is identifying with something outside of you. Again,
Speaker 4: one of the language one of the meditations and uh
Speaker 4: is in Korea yoga is God in me and being
Speaker 4: God are won. So to identify yourself as God becomes
Speaker 4: egotistical unless you're running for political office. But uh, you
Speaker 4: know it's uh, but it's a way to eliminate the
Speaker 4: separation that occurs. And what it gives way to is
Speaker 4: what we call hierarchical dominance, right uh, in this case spiritual.
Speaker 4: And so to recognize that which is above you is
Speaker 4: what I call arbitrary. It's a better language than above
Speaker 4: is beyond. So now in which direction, well direction goes
Speaker 4: away and instead we become what we call either inclusive
Speaker 4: or exclusive of that information, that person, that identity, those events,
Speaker 4: Like I said, it takes a long time to go
Speaker 4: through all of it. So when you deal with gods,
Speaker 4: the original language was gods were the intersection with humans,
Speaker 4: and then there were lords that were abouts, and then
Speaker 4: there were kings that were above lords. You see, so
Speaker 4: you say God bless you, and they say Lord bless me,
Speaker 4: and then you say, King gives me permission to be blessed.
Speaker 4: I guess. So you see all this as remnants throughout
Speaker 4: our society, because society has changed where God played an
Speaker 4: important part. Let's say in the year one thy eleven
Speaker 4: or thirteen fourteen, and then the resonant residence of Renaissance became.
Speaker 4: Things started in a way from what I call the
Speaker 4: non material right, So that's where we get our current religion,
Speaker 4: which is called science, right right, believe the science, Oh
Speaker 4: my goodness, trust? Well, trust means that you're basically lazy.
Speaker 4: So why I look at it not willing to care.
Speaker 4: But those are some ideas, and again, what you think
Speaker 4: about it and how you feel about it, it's not reality.
Speaker 4: The reality of what I just said is maybe ther
Speaker 4: but it doesn't require you to have an emotional response
Speaker 4: or anything. It's just something that you can play with.
Speaker 4: And I think that's one of the things that appears
Speaker 4: to be lost is what I call a sense of humor.
Speaker 4: And they're willing to play with an idea, right, And
Speaker 4: if you can play with it, you can take it
Speaker 4: and turn it around, look it upside down and see
Speaker 4: and eventually you can come to some idea whether or
Speaker 4: not that was fun. That's that's the way I look
Speaker 4: at it.
Speaker 1: That seems like open discussion and agreeing to disagree is
Speaker 1: a lost art.
Speaker 4: You know, yes, yes, remember what you think about it
Speaker 4: and how you feel about it's not reality. So so
Speaker 4: reality can be played with. That's that's what we're getting at.
Speaker 4: Can you stand up and become interactive with reality? Well,
Speaker 4: here you go with all these spiritual help people and
Speaker 4: telling you you can manifest reality. Right.
Speaker 1: I was just about to get into what you consider
Speaker 1: manifestation while we're going into these realms.
Speaker 4: So basically it's not true. It sounds good, okay, and
Speaker 4: pay me four hundred dollars and I'll teach a young
Speaker 4: manifest reality. And of course it doesn't happen. And and
Speaker 4: the reason is in quantum physics. Will get into a
Speaker 4: very simple thing. Is what you're trying to manifest or
Speaker 4: achieve of the A very simple question. Right, you're in
Speaker 4: the middle of desert, I'm going to manifest ice cream.
Speaker 4: No you're not. It's unavailable to you. You see what
Speaker 4: I mean. And that's just one of the aspects is
Speaker 4: what I call it a manifestation, right, is do you
Speaker 4: have enough energy? Can you apply that energy as a force,
Speaker 4: right in order to shape reality? Well, if you can,
Speaker 4: first of all, i'd love to meet you, right, because
Speaker 4: I've found very few people that are able to do that.
Speaker 4: One of them was a nasty christianistic I mean, this
Speaker 4: boy was good he could, He could literally manifest things,
Speaker 4: but he did it in a very specific area, and
Speaker 4: that was with plants. He could make plants grow to
Speaker 4: ten feet tall, you know. And I've seen this firsthand.
Speaker 4: So that's an application. If you see healers there, I
Speaker 4: don't think they're really manifesting so much as they're unmanifesting
Speaker 4: that which has been given to you participate in. If
Speaker 4: you have an illness, then the extra energy allows you
Speaker 4: to recover faster. So go back to pharmaceuticals. Let me
Speaker 4: get this straight. I take this little bitty pill, and
Speaker 4: this little bild pill is able to basically influence two
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty pounds of hands us right in a
Speaker 4: way that makes me healthier. And so just write down
Speaker 4: those three or four things I said and run through
Speaker 4: it a bunch of times in your head, and you go,
Speaker 4: there isn't any way possible that that's true, right without
Speaker 4: the participation of my own consciousness that think I'm going
Speaker 4: to be better. Okay, So that is manifesting, Okay, using
Speaker 4: something outside you as a catalyst as an influence and
Speaker 4: so and then God serves a purpose, Then pharmacygicals serve
Speaker 4: a purpose. So we don't have to demonize all of
Speaker 4: it when we understand the relationship.
Speaker 1: Okay, so right now that does Now you were mentioning,
Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately the spiritual community waters have been muddied
Speaker 1: a bit by just people looking for monetary gain or
Speaker 1: notoriety and things of this nature, and they're just throwing
Speaker 1: all kind of weird stuff out there.
Speaker 2: Well, one of.
Speaker 1: The things you mentioned earlier was kundalini yoga, and I
Speaker 1: know there's this, of course, a huge woo wu stigma
Speaker 1: with yoga in general. And then when you add terms
Speaker 1: like cundalini, where a lot of people might not have
Speaker 1: a great understanding of what this means, you know, it
Speaker 1: kind of it may get lost in understanding sometimes between
Speaker 1: a lot of people who are trying to understand this.
Speaker 1: But what is your understanding of kundalini and in kundalini yoga?
Speaker 4: Okay? I first started in the early seventies, started teaching
Speaker 4: around c. Three or four, and I've taught kunelin and
Speaker 4: yoga basically ever since. I used to have for many years,
Speaker 4: almost a decade. I taught three times a week. Okay.
Speaker 4: The reason I taught it because it worked for me.
Speaker 4: That's everybody all do this, do that? Remember like that diets.
Speaker 4: If it worked for you, great, but it doesn't mean
Speaker 4: it works for everybody. Okay. So that's the first thing
Speaker 4: is there's no perfection in like doing this as opposed
Speaker 4: to doing that. There's no cachet of like, oh I
Speaker 4: do kundany yoga, I do Jngar yoga, I do Korea yoga.
Speaker 4: I do you know? I mean there's dozens literally at yoga. Okay,
Speaker 4: Kunelina yoga is what we call it eight limbs all combined.
Speaker 4: It's basically all yogasperienced in one set of exercises or meditations.
Speaker 4: So if you spend say two and a half hours
Speaker 4: in hat yoga body postures, Baptiste taught it. There's a
Speaker 4: bunch of people that taught Hatha yoga. But when you
Speaker 4: start applying a focus, a consciousness, a mantra, a breathing pronama,
Speaker 4: focuses Roger yoga, you combine it, you get a much
Speaker 4: different experience. And this is one of the things I
Speaker 4: was talking about, Like, you're not able to hold a thought.
Speaker 4: One of the exercise I give is real simple, hold
Speaker 4: one thought for one minute. It's almost impossible unless you
Speaker 4: do some sort of meditation or training like that. And
Speaker 4: so the idea of Conny yoga is you overload all
Speaker 4: your census point that you withdraw into the inner cell
Speaker 4: or into the true self, and here we go God
Speaker 4: conscious the whole thing. But it works. I paint, I
Speaker 4: made paintings, and somebody made fun of me one time, like,
Speaker 4: what are you doing? Well, I was doing a drawing,
Speaker 4: a painting, and on my lap, and I was listening to
Speaker 4: the radio, watching TV, and reading a book all the
Speaker 4: same time. So was I doing I was overloading my subconscious,
Speaker 4: overloading my unconscious to the point that self express was
Speaker 4: the only thing left open for me to move the
Speaker 4: direction to move it. We see it in every I'll
Speaker 4: call them avatars, but in this case Bock Beethoven, I
Speaker 4: mean van go whatever. They become so overloaded. And most
Speaker 4: people did that through drugs or alcohol or through psychedelics.
Speaker 4: They all through our history. Okay, and the references are a
Speaker 4: bit obscure, but it was the same thing. It was
Speaker 4: to free the consciousness to express itself. And like the
Speaker 4: book review I did on gravity University, on asthma, is
Speaker 4: the biggest crisis or whatever that affects us today is
Speaker 4: a lack of imagination and the willingness to accept somebody
Speaker 4: else's remember a version of reality. And so if you're
Speaker 4: really going to be an avatar to yourself, create your
Speaker 4: own dang reality, right, but do it by eliminating the
Speaker 4: accumulation of programming, influences, mom, dad, everybody. You're connected to
Speaker 4: all of society. And when you do all that, then
Speaker 4: we're going to call that pair of physics. That's my
Speaker 4: definition of it. It's kind of like a psychology or
Speaker 4: the idea that there's things outside of us. Yes, but
Speaker 4: if you eliminate all those, you have an expansive ability
Speaker 4: and room to express yourself in ways that haven't been
Speaker 4: done before. And to me, that is true alchemy. That
Speaker 4: is a true changing of the self. Right, And Kunlin
Speaker 4: and yoga represents a fast way to get there, but
Speaker 4: you can go to it's like anything else, right, It's
Speaker 4: like in kung pu. There's a deep spirituality in it.
Speaker 4: It's but you have to go through six years of
Speaker 4: physical training for these even start teaching you that. They
Speaker 4: rarely even refer to it. And my teacher said, like,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, that's a forty year program. After the six years,
Speaker 4: and I go, I didn't know I signed up for that.
Speaker 4: But three of my teachers in LA when they met
Speaker 4: with them when they I was fifty years old, and
Speaker 4: one of them riached ome and pamel shoulders said, we're
Speaker 4: proud of you. You're better than we were at fifty
Speaker 4: and so sometimes it's like, what's your credentials? I go, right,
Speaker 4: that's my credentials. You see what I mean that I
Speaker 4: persevere for that length of time to be able to
Speaker 4: explore the martial arts in a way that included spirituality, reality.
Speaker 4: I mean, on and on and on. Once you developed
Speaker 4: the skill set of being yourself, then the whole world
Speaker 4: is open to you.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you said that you can go too fast
Speaker 1: with Kundalini yoga. Now I've heard that people who have
Speaker 1: had an experience with something that they call kundalin energy
Speaker 1: have had serious injuryy injuries because they had kind of
Speaker 1: unlocked this and experienced this when they weren't ready.
Speaker 2: Could you talk, how does that happen?
Speaker 1: And what exactly is this energy and how does it manifest?
Speaker 4: Okay? You are an intersection of ever how many dimensions,
Speaker 4: interactions whatever you want them. Right, If you take that
Speaker 4: one of the things that Kunlan yoga does that other
Speaker 4: yogaz don't do except creative it and a lot there's
Speaker 4: some secret martial arts stuff that teach it also, and
Speaker 4: that is you develop your nervous system. So if you
Speaker 4: take a human being and see well they operate off
Speaker 4: of certain voltage. We'll just pick a number thirty six
Speaker 4: bolts let's say alonger spine. Well, what if you had
Speaker 4: fifty volts or one hundred volts. Well, it's like a magnet.
Speaker 4: As the energy spirals up, it creates an interview. We
Speaker 4: know that that's standard science. And so the more energy
Speaker 4: you generate alonger spine, the more rotation you get in
Speaker 4: the bigger field you get. So that's a lot of
Speaker 4: person that has forty fifty foot in the field now
Speaker 4: or one hundred feet. You can have one hundred four hundred.
Speaker 4: It just keeps you on. So if you don't have
Speaker 4: the nervous system, you won't be able to handle the
Speaker 4: energy flow. Now, historically we call that people that went
Speaker 4: into a tran state or fell down or went into
Speaker 4: screaming fits or whatever because the energy inflow was too much. Okay,
Speaker 4: So Knuini Yoga Crego developed the nervous system to be
Speaker 4: able to handle an additional voltage. Okay. And that's one
Speaker 4: of the things that happened to me when I was
Speaker 4: about thirty five, is that I studied it and learned
Speaker 4: a way to expand the amount of energy you could
Speaker 4: flow through myself and even to flow around me even
Speaker 4: a much greater Well, that energy becomes available to other
Speaker 4: people when I work on them. Okay. But if you
Speaker 4: don't have the nervous system handle the energy glow, think
Speaker 4: about you just overloaded the wiring. Okay. So that's what
Speaker 4: they call a kind of rising experience. And in the
Speaker 4: seventies you used to get calls from all the world.
Speaker 4: People could get in trouble, and they knew I could
Speaker 4: fix it if I could learn to dampen down that
Speaker 4: energy in another person, just like you can learn to
Speaker 4: increase it in another person. Okay. So back to at Alaska,
Speaker 4: it's the same thing. What if you opened up a
Speaker 4: channel of information that you are not prepared to deal
Speaker 4: with so that it becomes you forced it. And anytime
Speaker 4: you force something, there's going to be a consequence, we
Speaker 4: say it, okay, So there is a certain amount of
Speaker 4: contemplation before you engage in any psychedelics or any kind
Speaker 4: of martial arts or anything. It's like, let me try
Speaker 4: this on, but don't let me be a finantic and
Speaker 4: go at it, you know, like I did, you know,
Speaker 4: because I would do it and sometimes I'd pass out
Speaker 4: for three hours straight after one of the classes because
Speaker 4: I had to reintegrate. So all experiences integration, synchronization, congruency,
Speaker 4: integration congruency, So all experiences go through that cycle and
Speaker 4: through that process for you to benefit from that experience.
Speaker 1: Now, when you're doing energy work on people, could you
Speaker 1: tell us about some of the techniques and method you're
Speaker 1: doing and what is actually occurring during your sessions.
Speaker 4: Science loves anacdotal information. Not so, and yet if you
Speaker 4: get right down to it, that's all we have only
Speaker 4: have the experiences I've had. Okay, well, those are antidotal.
Speaker 4: They're non scientific. Yes, what's your point, right, because they
Speaker 4: represent life, don't fall under the idea of science, right,
Speaker 4: They're they're non repeatable. Okay. The kiss of your first
Speaker 4: girlfriend or whatever it is non repeatable. Okay, it doesn't
Speaker 4: mean it didn't happen. Doesn't mean there wasn't some hormonal
Speaker 4: shift in this that the other oh uh, One day
Speaker 4: I decided to I would teach a class in this.
Speaker 4: And I've done that over the years, and I've found
Speaker 4: out that basically, there are very few people interested in
Speaker 4: in in what I call healing. Others they may say
Speaker 4: they do, but it's actually a job. It's actually something
Speaker 4: you have to work at. And so as soon as
Speaker 4: it becomes work, the same thing as spirituality, it's like, uh,
Speaker 4: it becomes work, conscience becomes work, and and it's like,
Speaker 4: can't you give me a pill? And and of course
Speaker 4: then comes a perversion. Uh yeah, with Oates yoga, with
Speaker 4: beer yoga, I mean it was considered a spiritual science.
Speaker 4: I ready to do a book review on yoga, Honda,
Speaker 4: but an autobiography of yoga. But anyway to your question,
Speaker 4: one day I decided to teach a class in it.
Speaker 4: I asked if people were interested, and they were about
Speaker 4: fourteen people that were interested in the class. Okay, So
Speaker 4: when a Tuesday night show up and we'll go through
Speaker 4: all this, and one of them was an eight year
Speaker 4: old and she had told her mother that she was
Speaker 4: kind of my yoga classes. I don't even remember how
Speaker 4: she found it out, but heard her mother talking about it,
Speaker 4: and so she said, I'm coming to the you know,
Speaker 4: learning how to heal class, right. I call it creative
Speaker 4: energetic health because it's creative and it's energetic, and those
Speaker 4: are the two requirements if you're going to create reality.
Speaker 4: By the way, and imagine nation deals with that. Anyway
Speaker 4: to get back to it, a line, everybody up and
Speaker 4: I said, okay, who has a problem. Who has a
Speaker 4: pain in their body? And one of the ladies goes, well,
Speaker 4: my knee hurts. And so I turned to one of
Speaker 4: the other people and go fix it. And they go,
Speaker 4: how do I do that? And I go, any way
Speaker 4: you want to? You see what I mean. Remember that
Speaker 4: we're limited only by imagination and by authority that have
Speaker 4: told us we can't do things right. And if you
Speaker 4: don't know you can't do it. Back to Tesla and
Speaker 4: everybody else, you'd be surprised at what all you can do,
Speaker 4: what all effect you can have. And so I told
Speaker 4: the person is like, there has to be a kinetic action.
Speaker 4: Like if I have a thought about somebody and I
Speaker 4: reach over and call them on the phone, that's a
Speaker 4: kinetic action. That's one of the things I went through
Speaker 4: with doctor Bill Tiller is that you can affect things
Speaker 4: once way as owns. It's a kinetic movement that is
Speaker 4: involved in it, and that gets into a hole long
Speaker 4: think about why that's true. But so I said, you
Speaker 4: can raise your hand, you can wave, you can throw
Speaker 4: it away, you can. I don't care what you do, right,
Speaker 4: but do it without touching. And so the person that
Speaker 4: was doing the healing waved their hands around and I said,
Speaker 4: how's your knee feeling? And she goes, it feels different, right?
Speaker 4: So why? Because all energy is interactive, that's it. All
Speaker 4: thoughts energy interactive. So we went around and somebody said, well,
Speaker 4: what about genetics, And I said, well, genetics is just
Speaker 4: energy flowing through a template, so you should be able
Speaker 4: to change it. And so they said what do you mean.
Speaker 4: I said, well, I have brown eyes, and so I
Speaker 4: turned to the eight year old and I said, change
Speaker 4: my eyes to green. Right, And everybody's sitting around a table,
Speaker 4: and so she sat up straight, took one deep breath,
Speaker 4: and everybody moved back from the table like this, because
Speaker 4: we're sensitive to that kind of energy. We're sensitive to
Speaker 4: that expansion of our energy field to include access to
Speaker 4: the field and access to the more information energy we
Speaker 4: ever thought possible. She changed my eyecolor to green, opened
Speaker 4: my eyes and everybody went, whoa, right, Now here's a trick.
Speaker 4: I'm an artist. It totally shifted how I saw colors
Speaker 4: in the room. I mean, so I knew that there
Speaker 4: had to be a physical difference going on because of
Speaker 4: the shifts, right, And I'm very sensitive color shifts, right,
Speaker 4: so as an artist, and then I was praying, I said,
Speaker 4: now change them back. So you know, it's like, you
Speaker 4: play with this stuff, but you know you ask permission
Speaker 4: and you want to make sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That brings me to how harmful can there's energies and
Speaker 1: intentions be towards ours and how much can it affect
Speaker 1: our reality?
Speaker 4: Like a lot or crazy? You got it a lot
Speaker 4: or not. The more you're yourself, the less you're influenced
Speaker 4: by it. Think about people trying to get the vote
Speaker 4: for somebody that's like no, right or yes. But you
Speaker 4: like in this case, I was open to it. I
Speaker 4: had stated my intention. They were able to make the shift.
Speaker 4: How did they do it? I don't know. I had
Speaker 4: my eyes closed. Later that she just waved her hand right.
Speaker 4: And so the main thing is she had never been
Speaker 4: told she couldn't do it, okay, so we can our
Speaker 4: gene expression doesn't have to be through a Chrispurger Cast
Speaker 4: nine machine. Okay. And I have seen it and done
Speaker 4: it upon occasion, but I cannot say I've done it
Speaker 4: every time because we have what we call momentum in
Speaker 4: her life, and we have caramel, we have connections, we
Speaker 4: have equations, this language I use. Okay. Now another one
Speaker 4: came to class again, a young one, and she said,
Speaker 4: I want to learn what you do. And I said, okay,
Speaker 4: just sit here after class and I'll tell you a
Speaker 4: few things. I says, what's going on? She said her
Speaker 4: grandmother had a high blood pressure, and I go, look,
Speaker 4: just find her blood pressure and then when you find it,
Speaker 4: just lower it right, very simple. So way she goes.
Speaker 4: She comes back and goes, I did that. I said, congratulations.
Speaker 4: Now her grandmother goes in the hospital for high blood
Speaker 4: pressure and the doctor comes in, goes, it's like one eight,
Speaker 4: one ninety whatever, blah blah blah, and he goes. The
Speaker 4: little girl goes, her grandmother lowers it down. The doctor
Speaker 4: comes back in and goes, it's perfectly normal. He goes,
Speaker 4: I don't understand it. A little Joe goes and he goes,
Speaker 4: don't do that. Do you see what I mean? Don't
Speaker 4: do that? Oh, He's hospital. I had one of my clients,
Speaker 4: a five year old, all kinds of genetic problems, and
Speaker 4: she was in it with her heart rate would go
Speaker 4: way up and this, that and the other. And I
Speaker 4: walked in, walked over to her about heart rate two twelve. Right.
Speaker 4: The doctors come in, took one look and walked away.
Speaker 4: And I always like Children's hospital, come city. I said,
Speaker 4: I did that, and they go, we want to talk
Speaker 4: to you, and I go, here's my phone number. Next day,
Speaker 4: we don't want to talk to you. Don't ever call
Speaker 4: us again? Right, Yes, what's funny about it? Nationally in
Speaker 4: sseud of Health, same thing, CDC, same thing. I mean,
Speaker 4: I've been interviewed and asked questions and then all of
Speaker 4: a sudden they don't want anything to do with me.
Speaker 4: Because everybody has the ability to influence their own health
Speaker 4: and well being to some degree, and that some degree
Speaker 4: becomes that part of you know, if it's available, and
Speaker 4: all these people telling you you can do all this
Speaker 4: stuff is not true unless you can. And so everybody
Speaker 4: can practice something. And that's why I don't limit it
Speaker 4: to just yoga. You can study reka, you can study
Speaker 4: occupying anything that involves the energetics of the human body.
Speaker 4: You can study in a way that allows you to
Speaker 4: influence yourself. And if you can influence yourself, you can
Speaker 4: influence others, excuse me, in a positive way.
Speaker 1: So right on one hundred percent, man, that's a perfect
Speaker 1: note to end on Randy. This was fantastic for the
Speaker 1: audience that is interested in finding out more about you.
Speaker 1: And if you have anything interesting that you're working on,
Speaker 1: go ahead and let us know.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, these are things that occupy. It's interesting people
Speaker 4: come to me for help mental, physical, emotional, spiritual, psychic,
Speaker 4: all that, and it all has a universal basis and
Speaker 4: that is energy, information, and consciousness. And when you combine
Speaker 4: those in yourself, you have the greatest ability to influence
Speaker 4: the universe, yourself, your family, your work. And the only
Speaker 4: factor is what we call a litation of imagination. And
Speaker 4: so so everybody I'd encourage read and stitch, but I'm
Speaker 4: on the internet YouTube and alst Randy of Weidenheimer Energy
Speaker 4: Doctor spell Ka is another one. Creative energetic health is
Speaker 4: just a very simple idea that through imagination, creativity energy.
Speaker 4: You make changes and that is true manifestation or whatever.
Speaker 4: So and get busy. In forty years you can be
Speaker 4: really good.
Speaker 2: Hey, there you go, something to look forward to.
Speaker 1: Randy, this was fantastic and yeah man, and we'll have
Speaker 1: to definitely do the sooner again in the future. Until
Speaker 1: next time, everyone, have an excellent evening and we will
Speaker 1: talk again tomorrow. We'll see y'all all Din