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<v Speaker 1>The views and opinions expressed by the guests of Sasquatch

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<v Speaker 1>Experience do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the host, sponsors,

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<v Speaker 1>or affiliates of the Sasquatch Experience. As always, listener discretion

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<v Speaker 2>We got someone or something growing around out here?

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<v Speaker 3>Does a legend walk among us working in the forests

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<v Speaker 3>of our world?

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<v Speaker 4>Did you see what it was?

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<v Speaker 5>Was it a person or an animal?

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<v Speaker 2>Or I can't go. Oh, I know if my thunder

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<v Speaker 2>light came on and I heard happened to glim see

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<v Speaker 2>the thing running across the yard, a good fight man

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<v Speaker 2>or something works like a man. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>it was.

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<v Speaker 3>For over fifteen years, we've talked with scientists, researchers, investigators,

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<v Speaker 3>and witnesses trying to gain insight and truth around the

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<v Speaker 3>existence this mysterious entity.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus quite che Hello, get somebody out here.

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<v Speaker 4>What's going to announce?

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<v Speaker 2>There's got a mention about six foot nine? I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know eas he announced there? Yeah, I'm working right out. Oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>hand on her? Yeah, got you're bigger?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, what's he doing in your yard?

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 3>Join us as we continue into the investigation, of the

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<v Speaker 3>Sasquatch Experience, and.

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<v Speaker 7>Good evening everyone, Welcome to the Sasquatch Experience for Monday,

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<v Speaker 7>February third, two thousand twenty five. If you can believe

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<v Speaker 7>we're already in February, it's like January just disappeared on us.

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<v Speaker 6>And forever.

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<v Speaker 7>But I don't know if it took forever though, fans.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like we blinked our eyes and it was gone.

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<v Speaker 7>As we're you.

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<v Speaker 8>Know, already for the through the first month of the year.

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<v Speaker 7>And of course I think the next thing we have

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<v Speaker 7>in our minds is the Ohio Bigfoot Conference, so we've

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<v Speaker 7>got that come out that so far knock on wooter

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<v Speaker 7>wood like substances. We're all going to be in attendance

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<v Speaker 7>at OBC this year, which is a pretty spectacular thing.

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<v Speaker 6>That is rare. I want a.

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<v Speaker 1>Self written contract from Matt that he's going to be there.

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<v Speaker 9>I will be there, Yeah, I will.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes.

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<v Speaker 7>He wants it in blood. I want it written in blood.

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<v Speaker 7>He wants it in man. We got a good audience

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<v Speaker 7>with us tonight. Of course, broadcasting across X, across YouTube, Facebook,

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<v Speaker 7>you name it, We're going to be on it, guys.

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<v Speaker 7>And what a great show we have tonight going back

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<v Speaker 7>into the weird, bizarre, Bigfoot, the orbs. And I know

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<v Speaker 7>we've we've danced around this topic for some time because

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<v Speaker 7>and I don't want to speak for anybody else, but

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<v Speaker 7>we're all We're four different individuals. We all have different

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<v Speaker 7>beliefs on what this is. Some of us aren't afraid

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<v Speaker 7>to dabble into the paranormal. Some of us, like me,

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<v Speaker 7>aren't really great at playing around in the paranormal. But

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<v Speaker 7>we're going to talk about it tonight because as much

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<v Speaker 7>as anybody would like to dismiss the facts, these things

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<v Speaker 7>are still being observed.

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<v Speaker 8>Together. These phenomenas are.

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<v Speaker 7>Happening yep together And before before I continue to fillibuster

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<v Speaker 7>vance Matt, what do you guys think on this subject?

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<v Speaker 8>Going right?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, I have a little bit to contribute regarding

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<v Speaker 1>at least the orbs portion of this. Remember when we

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<v Speaker 1>were little kids and you'd blow bubbles, or Mom or

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<v Speaker 1>Dad would blow bubbles James from a Yeah, okay, cool

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<v Speaker 1>of James, stop them. But you know we would have

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<v Speaker 1>this fascination of running around and catching them. But there

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<v Speaker 1>is some interesting research that I've done personally of other

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<v Speaker 1>scientific researchers.

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<v Speaker 8>So you've done research on blowing things.

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<v Speaker 6>Stop it man, there go this way?

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<v Speaker 1>Why why did you can't train left the station?

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<v Speaker 6>It did?

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<v Speaker 1>But there is scientific research in biology, and clearly the

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<v Speaker 1>term of this is playing on a sense of words.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's called wood wide web, okay, like the world

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<v Speaker 1>Wide Web, only wood wide web.

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<v Speaker 6>And what it actually is it's a.

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<v Speaker 11>Fungus called my corrazol and it creates a network in

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<v Speaker 11>forests between the roots because when you're in a forest, all.

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<v Speaker 6>The roots inner tangle with each.

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<v Speaker 1>Other and this lets trees know and exchanging information of

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<v Speaker 1>nutrients and water and stress. But with that amount of

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<v Speaker 1>energy between the trees and the forest, and I know.

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<v Speaker 6>This sounds very much like a woo thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It does, but maybe there's some something to it that

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<v Speaker 1>takes energy with that amount of communication between the trees

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<v Speaker 1>and a forest. And we're talking in a dense forest

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<v Speaker 1>where all roots are intertwined with each other, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>this communication network that creates energy. And I'm wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>that energy releases itself kind of like we do after

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<v Speaker 1>we eat a taco and you know, taco bell and

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<v Speaker 1>let the energy lose. You know, I'm just saying if

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<v Speaker 1>that energy lets itself loose. It might be something similar

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<v Speaker 1>to an orb under intelligent control because plant life itself. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a number, and I'm trying to fit so much

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<v Speaker 1>in in a short period of time.

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<v Speaker 6>Here. There is such a large number of plant.

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<v Speaker 1>Life that mimics mammal life, birds and insects. There are

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<v Speaker 1>plants that simulate themselves to look like a hummingbird to

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<v Speaker 1>attract hummingbirds. There's plants that are you know, the pot

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<v Speaker 1>plants that imitate themselves as a watering bowl to draw

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<v Speaker 1>mammals and small creatures into it and they cannot escape,

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<v Speaker 1>and they trap that as a food source. Being as

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<v Speaker 1>fly traped, it produces a nectar to attract flies and

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<v Speaker 1>other for it to eat. How did the plants know this?

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<v Speaker 1>There's no brain cells. So there's something bigger and more

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<v Speaker 1>miraculous going on here. And so it's possible that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>these forests produce these energy orbs and maybe a bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>is attracted to it.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'll leave it at that.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, so I get to go next.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm sorry, I haven't you So you're talking anywhere from

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<v Speaker 12>avatar to the happening? Okay, So like plants can talk

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<v Speaker 12>to each other and they could make us commit suicide

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<v Speaker 12>or they give us a lot of brains. All right,

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<v Speaker 12>That you make a lot of keen points, that plants

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<v Speaker 12>do kind of communicate, and that I think nature in

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<v Speaker 12>general has a frequency. My my thing is is like

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<v Speaker 12>for every time somebody says this thing isn't possible, and

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<v Speaker 12>then five seconds later they go, but I believe in Bigfoot,

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<v Speaker 12>You've got to step.

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<v Speaker 8>Back a notch and go. Wait.

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<v Speaker 12>If you can believe in a large, hairy creature, you

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<v Speaker 12>can let an orb happen, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 8>So I think I think you make some valid points,

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<v Speaker 12>Think we have to recognize the fact that that the

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<v Speaker 12>supernatural and the animal kingdom. If you can believe in Bigfoot,

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<v Speaker 12>then you can believe in the potential of a magical unicorn.

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<v Speaker 8>You just have to listen. You just have to make

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<v Speaker 8>sure there's enough science behind it, and clearly in that small.

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<v Speaker 12>Little stivet Okay, you put in so much science and

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<v Speaker 12>then Henry, you don't care if it air because that

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<v Speaker 12>coughs ound like you shoved it through the wall.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm glad. I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 7>I thought we're gonna have to pick up some of

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<v Speaker 7>your brain they're off the floor. Glad you're better, Henry. Again, though,

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<v Speaker 7>we take it from the position that this is it's supernatural,

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<v Speaker 7>the orb in itself, and you know, vance you try

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<v Speaker 7>to come up with a rational explanation for it. But

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<v Speaker 7>then you also talk about and something I read earlier

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<v Speaker 7>today doing some prep for the show, and maybe I

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<v Speaker 7>understood it right, maybe I did not exactly the world's

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<v Speaker 7>greatest brain here, But plasma has a tendency to follow

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<v Speaker 7>electromagnetic fields.

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<v Speaker 6>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 8>So what if it's just.

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<v Speaker 7>Following whatever's emanating from these creatures, so that it's just

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<v Speaker 7>generating more energy for it through however it's it's picking

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<v Speaker 7>it up from the.

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<v Speaker 8>Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not that it's generated or created by this thing.

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<v Speaker 7>It just happens to be localized.

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<v Speaker 1>And right right right, And I could I tend to

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<v Speaker 1>agree with that as well, Sewan, because these are still

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<v Speaker 1>all unanswered questions. But looking at it in a scientific perspective.

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<v Speaker 6>That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, when you talk about just a strike of lightning,

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<v Speaker 1>you're separating negative and positive ions from each other, and

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<v Speaker 1>it creates an electrical charge and you get a bolt

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<v Speaker 1>of lightning that within itself is a phenomenon that is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely mind blowing and considering the fact to this very day,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're talking February third, twenty twenty five, and

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<v Speaker 1>science still cannot identify what gravity is. There is no

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<v Speaker 1>definition to what gravity is. We all experience it, but

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<v Speaker 1>there is no explanation of gravity. So there's still so

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<v Speaker 1>many questions to be answered. And that's why I brought up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the fungus network within the trees. Maybe they're

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<v Speaker 1>releasing some sort of an energy. Once it builds up

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<v Speaker 1>that it becomes as orb and releases and under some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of intelligent design. What it seems like. It seems

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<v Speaker 1>like intelligent design. I believe I've witnessed this. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure that's what it was, but I did witness some

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<v Speaker 1>really strange things. And I know Alex Petakov, he witnessed

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<v Speaker 1>this all soul and so along with Sean or with

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<v Speaker 1>Seth breed Love, they all witnessed this. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>strange phenomena. We haven't grasped around it yet. But what

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<v Speaker 1>is the tie between that and a big foot encounter?

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<v Speaker 6>So it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot attracted to this the same way we were as

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<v Speaker 1>children to snowflakes and bubbles, and other simple things that

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<v Speaker 1>we were really attracted to and we would chase after.

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<v Speaker 7>So here's one thing for you. And I was just

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<v Speaker 7>happy to think about this sitting here. I'm a big

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<v Speaker 7>Star Trek fan, and one of the things that people

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<v Speaker 7>hated about one of the newer shows, Star Trek Discovery,

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<v Speaker 7>was that the ship use what they called the my

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<v Speaker 7>celial network ability to transverse space and apparently dimensions using

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<v Speaker 7>a high created by fungus. So it uses the spores

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<v Speaker 7>to generate almost a portal to go from one point

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<v Speaker 8>To propel the ship of the ship.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, So we talk about bigfoot exiting portals, and they're

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<v Speaker 7>seen exiting coming in and out of portals. I've not

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<v Speaker 7>seen when people talk about it. You said something about

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<v Speaker 7>the fungus of their advance. What if there is the

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<v Speaker 7>potentiality of something real like a myceelial network, that these

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<v Speaker 7>things can traverse and open portals.

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<v Speaker 8>And go in and out.

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<v Speaker 7>What does it have to be super science and why

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<v Speaker 7>can't it be natural science?

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<v Speaker 6>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's kind of the angle that I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to attack that from, was that it may be

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<v Speaker 1>just a simple, undiscovered science that we haven't unfolded and

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<v Speaker 1>opened the book on yet because we're not that far

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<v Speaker 1>as far as our technology or our research. But it

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<v Speaker 1>could be something very simple like that, Sean, It could

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<v Speaker 1>be something very simple like that. You're talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>spore that can grow in a forest and people go

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<v Speaker 1>out and grows to pick. You know these mushrooms and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a variety of mushrooms.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, where did they come from?

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<v Speaker 1>They're not a seed, it's a spore, right, and if

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<v Speaker 1>within the forest, between the roots of all trees, and

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<v Speaker 1>it has. I've watched these videos. It's absolutely fascinating. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a steel probe about a foot and a half long

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<v Speaker 1>actually a hyper sensitive microphone, and you can listen to

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<v Speaker 1>the energy feeds between these trees and it's musical. It's

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<v Speaker 1>pull your headphones off. It's a musical interlude of information.

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<v Speaker 1>What that information is, we don't know, but we're listening

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<v Speaker 7>Matt Henry, anything you guys like to chime in here

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<v Speaker 7>about these interesting things were postulating here tonight.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I have something to share. I actually had experience

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<v Speaker 10>back in twenty ten where I was outside. I was

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<v Speaker 10>actually I was actually calling for sasquatch doing, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>And I saw this. I saw this was December of

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<v Speaker 10>twenty ten. I saw this light up in the sky

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<v Speaker 10>was straight to cross and it wasn't I thought. I

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<v Speaker 10>don't know, mm hmm, because it had been the orb

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<v Speaker 10>or something in the sky. I really can't say for

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<v Speaker 10>sure what color was it, but it was kind of

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<v Speaker 10>a whitish color, maybe a bluish white.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, a lot of orbs have that description of

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<v Speaker 1>a brilliant white blue or a white color. What I've

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what to make of that. But it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that you mentioned that, Henry, because a lot of witnesses

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<v Speaker 1>that see these orbs refer them to almost a white

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<v Speaker 1>but a light blue color.

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<v Speaker 13>So there is some scientific fact that goes behind orbs

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<v Speaker 13>that some of its particles in the air and the

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<v Speaker 5>That, or or a light source was present and then

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<v Speaker 5>a tree like a limb moves or something like that,

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<v Speaker 5>and then it becomes visible. I sent you guys that

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<v Speaker 5>kind of link that explained some natural versions of orbs,

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<v Speaker 5>and some of it is.

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<v Speaker 12>Is like from working with cellular technology and some of

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<v Speaker 12>the technologies we worked with it the store is it

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<v Speaker 12>all matters to what the locations around you, to what

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<v Speaker 12>kind of waves and beams will work, because like if

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<v Speaker 12>I'm near a building with aluminum siding, I will have

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<v Speaker 12>more cellular service, but I will also if the light

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<v Speaker 12>hits it right.

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<v Speaker 8>There will be orbs in the tree.

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<v Speaker 12>Also, it also affects your own eyes that you start

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<v Speaker 12>to see those little squiggly things in your eye and

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<v Speaker 12>that you know you and in some cases your brain

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<v Speaker 12>can't one hundred percent coalesce what it is, but you

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<v Speaker 12>use the rest of your brain, the artistic side of

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<v Speaker 12>your brain, to fill it in. Kind of like when

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<v Speaker 12>you ever see one of those shows where somebody looks

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<v Speaker 12>at a shadow on the wall and I see a.

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<v Speaker 8>Demon, mats, he's an angel, you see whatever, But none

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<v Speaker 8>of those are there.

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<v Speaker 12>It's just a blob, okay, But our brain fills it

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<v Speaker 12>in so that we can comprehend it, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So then what is the correlation between what we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about with these orbs and a bigfoot? Is it a

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<v Speaker 1>curiosity thing or is one having to do with the other.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, that's the age old question, isn't it now? And

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<v Speaker 7>I think to get into that, you know, we have

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<v Speaker 7>to talk about some of the situations where these things

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<v Speaker 7>have been.

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<v Speaker 8>Encountered.

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<v Speaker 7>And the first thing I think about, and you gentlemen

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<v Speaker 7>probably understand what I'm what I'm going to say is

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<v Speaker 7>from the Small Town Monsters.

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<v Speaker 8>Documentary.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it was Chestnut Ridge down in Pennsylvania, down

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<v Speaker 7>in the southwestern part of Pennsylvania, where they were observed

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<v Speaker 7>carrying these orbs of light.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, But what are they?

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<v Speaker 7>I I don't know, and I'm going to try to

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<v Speaker 7>find the actual account and bring it up here. But

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<v Speaker 7>you know, are they some technology they use to activate

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<v Speaker 7>a portal? Are they something to use to transport themselves?

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<v Speaker 7>There's been instances where these things have been shot and

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<v Speaker 7>they've exploded into.

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<v Speaker 6>Light.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, That's also happened in southwest Pennsylvania. Either the Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 7>in southwest Pennsylvania really eating these mushrooms vans and they've

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<v Speaker 7>they've not that that my my celial magic or people

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<v Speaker 7>down here in the southwest Pennsylvania are really enjoying those mushrooms. Now,

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<v Speaker 7>I can tell you that I was out with Rick

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<v Speaker 7>Chirby his wife Eric Altman, down on the Chestnut Ridge

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<v Speaker 7>and while we were out, Adam Cox, a good friend

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<v Speaker 8>While we were out.

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<v Speaker 7>She had filmed some orbs flowing floating around the tops

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<v Speaker 7>of the trees and they were non localized light phenomenally,

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<v Speaker 7>there was nothing making these lights. They were self illuminating

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<v Speaker 7>and they were dancing among the trees like free floating,

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<v Speaker 7>and it was one of the damnedest things I've seen.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm trying to find the video on my phone. I

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<v Speaker 7>might be able to share it on the shelf I

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<v Speaker 7>can find you. But it was just a hell of

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<v Speaker 7>a scenario because I happened to be there for it.

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<v Speaker 7>And then if you just take that one step further

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<v Speaker 7>and you just take away orbs and talk about just

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<v Speaker 7>strange light phenomena that in itself is a whole other category, Like, right,

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<v Speaker 7>there's something going on.

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<v Speaker 8>With either an attractant that.

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<v Speaker 7>These creatures are just a breeding ground for this kind

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<v Speaker 7>of light phenomena. There's something that's coincidental and not exactly.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, they're coinciding, but they're not one and the same.

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<v Speaker 7>Or these things have the ability to generate some you know,

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<v Speaker 7>something we can't explain, something we don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a fascinating article that was written by

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<v Speaker 1>the late great Linda Godfried and her.

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<v Speaker 6>And I forget the gentleman's first name.

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<v Speaker 1>His last name is Hemple, and it's in her book

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to go over to my bookshelf here.

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<v Speaker 1>But they had an encounter with one of these orbs,

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<v Speaker 1>and they sat in their car and they watched this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was in southern Wisconsin. They sat in their

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<v Speaker 1>car and they observed this orb moving about what she

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<v Speaker 1>described in an intelligent way. Now I can understand how

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<v Speaker 1>people would come up with intelligent way, you know, moving

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<v Speaker 1>left to the right, up and down. And Hempel grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>his mag light that was in his car, and he

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<v Speaker 1>shined his light on it, and it immediately disappeared, and

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<v Speaker 1>it got within very close proximity of their vehicle in

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<v Speaker 1>which they were driving it. Because they were actually doing

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<v Speaker 1>research for the dog Man at the time, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go out to look for these orbs. They were looking

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<v Speaker 1>for evidence of the dog man, and this happened and

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<v Speaker 1>he shines his you know, mag light on it and

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<v Speaker 1>it just disappeared, and it freaked.

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<v Speaker 6>Her out being unbelief.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's in her book with all the details.

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<v Speaker 1>I find that a fascinating story. Again, is this just

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<v Speaker 1>an energy released or is this under intelligent design? I

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<v Speaker 1>know that's the million dollar question. But again let's draw

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<v Speaker 1>that back to what does that have an correlation with Bigfoot?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a curiosity with Bigfoot the same way it

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<v Speaker 1>is with us and we want to figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>it is or is it something that has a relationship with.

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<v Speaker 8>Anybody want to tackle that?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, well, you think about you think about the highest

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<v Speaker 10>strangeness from western Pennsylvania, especially back around nineteen seventy three

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<v Speaker 10>to nineteen seventy four, right right about. You think about

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<v Speaker 10>exactly exactly all the Bigfoot slash UFO reports that came

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<v Speaker 10>out of the area. People were seeing all kinds of

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<v Speaker 10>weird stuff. They were seeing oars, they were seeing bigfoot,

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<v Speaker 10>they were seeing Bigfoot carrying these weird objects, these glowing object.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, Henry, I have an example of that that you're

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<v Speaker 7>talking about right now, And this was from September twenty seventh,

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<v Speaker 7>nineteen seventy three, at about nine thirty in Beaver County,

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<v Speaker 7>two girls saw a white humanoid covered in white fur

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<v Speaker 7>and had glowing red eyes and appeared to be holding

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<v Speaker 7>a glowing, large luminum spear in its hands and was

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<v Speaker 7>about eight feet tall. After seeing the figure, the girls

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<v Speaker 7>bolted back into the house and their father went out

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<v Speaker 7>into the woods in an attempt to track down the creature.

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<v Speaker 7>He was gone for over an hour, and when he returned,

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<v Speaker 7>he refused to talk about what he had seen. At

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<v Speaker 7>the same time he was in the woods, several nearby

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<v Speaker 7>people claimed to see a silvery object hovering over the

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<v Speaker 7>forest and at one point it admitted a beam down

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<v Speaker 7>into the woods. And that was reported by Stan Gordon

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<v Speaker 7>nineteen seventy four at a uphah on Ufo symposium. So

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<v Speaker 7>you talk about Henry that time period. I just wanted

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<v Speaker 7>to put that out there because you mentioned that time

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<v Speaker 7>there was a perfect example of that.

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<v Speaker 9>Ye.

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<v Speaker 7>Stan Gordon in his book Silent Invasion has a bunch

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<v Speaker 7>of examples.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes it does, and it's a great.

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<v Speaker 7>Book, and Stan doesn't mind getting a little weird with it.

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<v Speaker 8>Matt yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean there's so much I could talk about with

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<v Speaker 9>the orbs. So because I actually saw someone with my

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<v Speaker 9>own eyes during a Bigfoot investigation and people were having

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<v Speaker 9>experiences down the mountain, a little further down the mountain

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<v Speaker 9>and I'm looking at this thing. I said, what the

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<v Speaker 9>heck is this? It looked like somebody with a bright

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<v Speaker 9>flashlight that through the woods. This was in Columbia County, Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 9>and I had no idea what it was. But I

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<v Speaker 9>do have some theories about about the whole you know,

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<v Speaker 9>issues with orbs and Bigfoot, But there's other times too

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<v Speaker 9>that people have seen, whether it's swamp gas, whether it's

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<v Speaker 9>ball lightning. You know, there's other unnatural lights that come through,

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<v Speaker 9>such as the lights that they have. I believe that's

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<v Speaker 9>down in Tennessee or North Carolina with the mountain brown

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<v Speaker 9>mountain lights. Yes, the brown mountain lights. So you do

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<v Speaker 9>have different life phenomenas. One story it's it's a ghost story,

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<v Speaker 9>but there's actually not that far from Williamsport. There's a

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<v Speaker 9>mountain where there was a plane crash, killed the killed

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<v Speaker 9>the doctor who was the who was the pilot, And

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<v Speaker 9>people claim that if they go up there at night

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<v Speaker 9>they see an orb uh in the area where the

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<v Speaker 9>plane the plane had crashed. That's how they figure when

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<v Speaker 9>they if they followed the orb, they end up finding,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, where there's a small little uh plaque to

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<v Speaker 9>commemorate uh the instant. So uh So there's all different

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<v Speaker 9>explanations for the orbs. But I I am one person

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<v Speaker 9>that I don't think that there's that much of a

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<v Speaker 9>connection between Bigfoot and the orbs other than it's something

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<v Speaker 9>that they're attracted to, and it may be something that

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<v Speaker 9>it may be more common in the woods than we're

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<v Speaker 9>aware of, right, and for someone that's out in the

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<v Speaker 9>woods all the time, they're gonna see this as something

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<v Speaker 9>that you know, is potentially harmless, isn't going to and

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<v Speaker 9>it may you know, uh give them something to do.

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<v Speaker 9>It may be like us watching TV, you know, or

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<v Speaker 9>or or doing some sort of activity. They're going to

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<v Speaker 9>chase this thing because a lot of times these are

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<v Speaker 9>happening out in the middle of nowhere. So as that's

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<v Speaker 9>going on again, I think that's a big attract. And

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<v Speaker 9>the other thing too is, uh, you know, you get

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<v Speaker 9>people that camp out in the middle of nowhere and

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<v Speaker 9>they have a fire going and or they had their

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<v Speaker 9>flashlights going. And if they're out in and air.

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<v Speaker 6>Man, yeah get back.

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<v Speaker 9>I was sitting there just just disconnected. I don't know

439
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:04.279
<v Speaker 9>where it cut off, but I was gonna say for campers.

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<v Speaker 8>Flashlights and camp and campfires.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, yes, So if somebody's out in an area, maybe

442
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<v Speaker 9>out west where they're there hasn't uh, maybe they just

443
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<v Speaker 9>opened the area in the spring or early summer, and

444
00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:21.880
<v Speaker 9>that's when people have encounters. Maybe you know, they're drawn

445
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<v Speaker 9>to the to the light thinking that there works.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, you know, you make a valid point.

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<v Speaker 13>The one point is is like we've had these discussions

448
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<v Speaker 13>multiple times about how we change the environment, and it's

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<v Speaker 13>odd that there are more sightings once that happens. Well,

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<v Speaker 13>most animals, if something changes in an envit environment, prey

451
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:47.519
<v Speaker 13>animals will hide, but like predator animals and stuff like that,

452
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<v Speaker 13>will investigate what it is because it may either be

453
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<v Speaker 13>a new food source or maybe something they need to.

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<v Speaker 8>Avoid, you know.

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<v Speaker 12>And I think that that from what the science that

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<v Speaker 12>I've gathered, the of the Sasquatch or even the aliens

457
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<v Speaker 12>or the orbs or whatever it is, they all seem

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<v Speaker 12>to want to know and control their environment. Otherwise they

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<v Speaker 12>wouldn't be as good at hiding as they were.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, absolutely, Yep, we do have to take our

461
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<v Speaker 7>brick here. Guys, it is nine thirty folks. Stick around.

462
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<v Speaker 7>We'll be back right after. This Bigfoot bullhorn brought to

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<v Speaker 7>you by Vince Nezbig Stay Tuned.

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<v Speaker 2>News Team a symbol.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a fear of flying now I never had

466
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<v Speaker 4>a fear of it. It's not straight across the board flying.

467
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<v Speaker 4>I don't like small planes all of a sudden, I

468
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<v Speaker 4>just don't like it. It has nothing to do with the plane.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe in the planes, Okay, I just don't believe

470
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<v Speaker 4>in the pilots because you know what, I don't think

471
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<v Speaker 4>the airline does either, which is why that dude is

472
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<v Speaker 4>flying that little plane.

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<v Speaker 10>Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, parachutes for everyone you know. Coming from this aviator,

475
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<v Speaker 1>I can assure you that airline travel and aircraft travel

476
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>is still the safest mode of transportation, including walking. You know,

477
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<v Speaker 1>I don't always roll a joint, but when I do,

478
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<v Speaker 1>it's usually my ankle. Well, happy Monday night to you all.

479
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<v Speaker 1>And as I had a conversation with Sean earlier, being

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<v Speaker 1>that it's February, we're still officially in the frightened turtle

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00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:46.640
<v Speaker 1>season and for you ladies, the headlights are on. But

482
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<v Speaker 1>we're not here to talk about frightened turtles. But Klix

483
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<v Speaker 1>News Radio I will give you the information and watch

484
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<v Speaker 1>a video after you're done listening to the Sasquatch exsh

485
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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting. Finally, bigfoot lover's rejoice. We finally have our

486
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<v Speaker 1>first major bigfoot sighting of twenty twenty five. And let

487
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<v Speaker 1>us start by saying it's a frightening one. The bigfoot

488
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>sighting in Idaho, which I always thought was pronounced Ohio.

489
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<v Speaker 1>Our side of the country is a prime location for

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00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:27.319
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot to wander. Just think about it. There are so

491
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<v Speaker 1>many places to hide, and you get four seasons, and

492
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:34.359
<v Speaker 1>as far as we know, there is plenty of things

493
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.960
<v Speaker 1>in the area to eat. Speaking of that, is bigfoot

494
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>hunting small or big game for food? And does it

495
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:45.279
<v Speaker 1>dumpster dive? I know we've all had that question. Now

496
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>putting those opinions aside, an ATV writer caught some shocking

497
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<v Speaker 1>footage while on an unnamed trail in Idaho. The video

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<v Speaker 1>was picked up by the YouTube channel other Worldly News.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go ahead and write that down other Worldly

500
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<v Speaker 1>News on YouTube and trust us when we say it

501
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:11.680
<v Speaker 1>does look other worldly. Now, as the ATV rider rides

502
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<v Speaker 1>along a trail through the Idaho outdoors, well of course

503
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:20.599
<v Speaker 1>outdoors and to many indoor trails, we suddenly see a

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00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>massive dark figure crossing the trail. And when we say

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<v Speaker 1>the humanoid is dark, you can make the case that

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<v Speaker 1>this being was a shadow figure, a paranormal entity made

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<v Speaker 1>up of pure darkness. Also, when you do see the video,

508
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<v Speaker 1>pay attention to the movements, particularly the arms. It almost

509
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<v Speaker 1>appears ape light and lines up with every myth and

510
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:50.160
<v Speaker 1>legend we've heard about Bigfoot. The encounter frightened the ATV

511
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:55.160
<v Speaker 1>riders so much that they turned around without any hesitation.

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<v Speaker 1>So let us know what you think of this video

513
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<v Speaker 1>when we come back. Well, let's warm up those frightened

514
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<v Speaker 1>turtles and turn off those headlights and go down to Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the big football horn right here on

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<v Speaker 1>the Sasquatch Experience. It's not Dockers, it's God Knockers. Hey,

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518
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<v Speaker 1>let's head on down to Florida. Well why you ask, well,

531
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<v Speaker 1>because the Great Florida Bigfoot Conference. It is an annual

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<v Speaker 1>event happening in Ocalla, Florida, at the World Equestrian Center.

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<v Speaker 1>be available at bigfootfl dot com. Again Bigfoot fl dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>The address for this fun event is seventeen fifty Northwest

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<v Speaker 1>eightieth Avenue in Oakalla, Florida. Thanks again for listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this edition of the Bigfoot Bullhorn. Right here on the

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00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:29.559
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch experience and as the twig and berries always say,

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<v Speaker 1>to your underwear before you wash them until we meet again,

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<v Speaker 1>keep your.

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<v Speaker 6>Toe in the mind mind.

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<v Speaker 8>Thanks Vance for that, lovely, lovely, so appreciate.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the way to wrap it up, lovely.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, well you keep us engaged and that's the thing

546
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<v Speaker 8>that matters the most.

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<v Speaker 6>I try man.

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<v Speaker 8>There we go.

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<v Speaker 7>First part of the show talked about orbs strange light phenomena.

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<v Speaker 7>As we start to wind into the you know, the

551
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<v Speaker 7>thing we have to understand we want the listeners to

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00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:15.079
<v Speaker 7>understand is, you know, one we're not making any claims

553
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:18.679
<v Speaker 7>one way or the other about this being a legitimate

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00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:20.440
<v Speaker 7>part of the research. All we know is that it's

555
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<v Speaker 7>observed together. Right, These phenomena are seene. We gave you

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<v Speaker 7>one example there with We gave us one example from

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<v Speaker 7>Stan Gordon with those girls in eighty three and there we.

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<v Speaker 8>Go with the ums and Oz again. Sorry guys.

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<v Speaker 7>Back in eighty three and Beaver County and I'm trying

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<v Speaker 7>to pull up some more. Henry may joined some more

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<v Speaker 7>examples of that. But as we go through, you know

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of people have written about this. Ronnie LeBlanc

563
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<v Speaker 7>from formerly on expedition Bigfoot in his book Monster Land

564
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:09.119
<v Speaker 7>discussed the kind of paranormal aspects of Bigfoot very freely,

565
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<v Speaker 7>and Ronnie, you know, makes no, he's not bashful about

566
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<v Speaker 7>the fact that he does feel there's a connection to him.

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<v Speaker 8>Stan Gordon will tell everyone that.

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<v Speaker 7>He lets the evidence speak for itself and you make

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<v Speaker 7>your own determination. But I think Stan heavily infers that

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<v Speaker 7>there's a connection.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>But when we think that the connection between UFO's Bigfoot

573
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<v Speaker 7>these paranormal phenomena, you know, what if it's anything but paranormal?

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<v Speaker 7>What if there's a natural explanation for And That's where

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<v Speaker 7>I'm stuck, that we can explain it. So we attribute

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<v Speaker 7>these what we consider paranormal, which is really I don't know,

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<v Speaker 7>that's a fallacy, right, like, because we can explain it

578
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<v Speaker 7>and it's not what we perceive to be within the

579
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<v Speaker 7>realm of normal. It is by definition paranormal. But does

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<v Speaker 7>that have to mean otherworldly or other realmly or non corporeal?

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<v Speaker 7>You know, what's the definition and what's the what's the

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<v Speaker 7>creation of this, I guess nomenclature?

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<v Speaker 8>Why does it have to be anything that's just not natural?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 8>That was very wordy sorry.

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<v Speaker 6>No, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You know there was, and forgive me because now that

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<v Speaker 1>we're going down this vein of the conversation. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember a lot of names. I believe it was the

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<v Speaker 1>Scientific Research Team NIDS maybe that went to Skinwalker and

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<v Speaker 1>there were two of the researchers that saw this large

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<v Speaker 1>ORB at Skinwalker and they described it as opening up

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<v Speaker 1>and seeing one of these creatures step out of this

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<v Speaker 1>light orb and then went off into the wilderness. This

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<v Speaker 1>was their testimony, and they tried to capture so much

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<v Speaker 1>of this, you know, on video capture and all the

597
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<v Speaker 1>sensitive equipment that they had at the time. And I

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<v Speaker 1>believe this goes back to probably the late nineties, so

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<v Speaker 1>technology is not as advanced then as it is today.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is what they witnessed, and this is what

601
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<v Speaker 1>they described that they see this orb, they're watching it

602
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<v Speaker 1>and it seemed like it had opened up to a

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<v Speaker 1>darker hole and then seeing a large bipedal creature step

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<v Speaker 1>out of.

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<v Speaker 6>It and walk off it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that was just it, yeah, kind of But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>was this part of a and totally enhanced propaganda to

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<v Speaker 1>bring more interest to the subject, or was this something

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<v Speaker 1>that actually happened.

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<v Speaker 7>You know who knows you're talking about the National Institute

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<v Speaker 7>of Discovery Science.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, yes, that's right.

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<v Speaker 7>Isn't it, Henry? I see him shaking his head there,

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<v Speaker 7>so that must be. We had to consult the oracle

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<v Speaker 7>that not nads baker nids.

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<v Speaker 12>So they found so they found orbs near the neads.

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<v Speaker 7>All right, well listen, now we've had and he went

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<v Speaker 7>down to that vein.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh boy, we had to go there, didn't we.

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<v Speaker 8>We had we had.

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<v Speaker 7>We had Dwayne Pintoff on the show in a while back,

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<v Speaker 7>and he was out with Eric Altman, and Dwayne also

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<v Speaker 7>experienced what he thought he saw a.

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<v Speaker 8>Doorway open up in the woods, is what I believe.

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<v Speaker 8>He described it.

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<v Speaker 7>As a doorway, right, And again, these situations are observed,

627
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<v Speaker 7>they're experienced, as much as I may not feel that

628
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<v Speaker 7>they are connected to our favorite subject matter. Here doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>mean one doesn't mean I'm right, But two, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>mean it's not worthy of notation. And so we're in

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<v Speaker 7>the situation now where I think we have to notate everything,

632
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<v Speaker 7>no matter how bizarre or extreme it may be. When

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<v Speaker 7>we ignore it, we aren't asking for the scientific credibility

634
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<v Speaker 7>behind it. Because we're going ahead and we're ignoring evidence

635
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<v Speaker 7>that's in front of us because it doesn't fit within.

636
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<v Speaker 6>Our bias in the narrative, right, right, and so.

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<v Speaker 7>We're how often have we done that in the past, though,

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<v Speaker 7>Like if we haven't had those blinders up and right,

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<v Speaker 7>because it doesn't fit within what our idea of Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 7>is or comfortable too, we ignore it? And how detrimental

641
00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:37.199
<v Speaker 7>has that been? Like have we put ourselves behind because

642
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:37.480
<v Speaker 7>of that?

643
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:38.400
<v Speaker 6>Right?

644
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<v Speaker 1>You know, I brought up a point a long time ago,

645
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:49.159
<v Speaker 1>and it might have been with you, Sean. Let's say aliens,

646
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the gray aliens or Bigfoot and humans and other alien entities.

647
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:03.519
<v Speaker 1>All the physical features seem to resemble a similarity. So

648
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:07.920
<v Speaker 1>you have a head, two eyes, nose, mouth, mounted on

649
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:12.519
<v Speaker 1>a neck, on the shoulders, with two arms and two legs,

650
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:16.519
<v Speaker 1>walks bipedally. That's how we see the grays, that's how

651
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:19.360
<v Speaker 1>we see aliens, that's how we see Bigfoot, and that's

652
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:23.760
<v Speaker 1>how we see ourselves. Is that the most perfect design

653
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:28.079
<v Speaker 1>for an intelligent species throughout the universe?

654
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:30.039
<v Speaker 8>We don't know.

655
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:32.920
<v Speaker 1>And I only bring that up because that is the

656
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:36.639
<v Speaker 1>only common link that all these things share with each other,

657
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:41.199
<v Speaker 1>is that the autonomy is similar.

658
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:46.400
<v Speaker 8>But and I would let Matt finish this thought. But

659
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:48.039
<v Speaker 8>the fact is is that a lot.

660
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:51.440
<v Speaker 12>Of times, and Matt probably knows from investigations, is your

661
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:55.400
<v Speaker 12>mind fills into what you know to make to be

662
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:57.920
<v Speaker 12>able to see something. Same like Sean made a point

663
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:02.119
<v Speaker 12>earlier about how we miss things and we're really on

664
00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:03.280
<v Speaker 12>to treat every.

665
00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:04.400
<v Speaker 8>Sighting as a crime scene.

666
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:06.760
<v Speaker 12>But I'll let Matt finish that thought because he probably

667
00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:08.440
<v Speaker 12>has a little more information.

668
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<v Speaker 9>On it, you know, yeah, I mean, you know, we

669
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:16.400
<v Speaker 9>could sit there and you can have somebody that says

670
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:20.960
<v Speaker 9>that they saw, you know, a saucer come in, they

671
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:25.559
<v Speaker 9>saw these objects come out, and again, you know, it's

672
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:30.400
<v Speaker 9>just like the paradolia where we're going to our minds

673
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:37.079
<v Speaker 9>are automatically going to humanize what we see. They're going

674
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:38.920
<v Speaker 9>to put those human attributes to it.

675
00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:41.119
<v Speaker 12>And so.

676
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:47.239
<v Speaker 9>You know, that's what people are getting in saying, okay,

677
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:51.920
<v Speaker 9>this thing had you know, four fingers like we have fingers,

678
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:55.719
<v Speaker 9>it had, you know, as you said, and neck a

679
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:59.639
<v Speaker 9>thor act or a body you know, and go from

680
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:04.400
<v Speaker 9>there or you know, in all actuality, we don't know

681
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:06.039
<v Speaker 9>what they might be saying, you know.

682
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:10.760
<v Speaker 7>And a touchback on advance, you know, when you said,

683
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:14.559
<v Speaker 7>is this anatomy? You know, that's that seems to be

684
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:18.719
<v Speaker 7>the commonality that we share these basic attributes, you know,

685
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:20.960
<v Speaker 7>two arms, two legs, a torso.

686
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:25.159
<v Speaker 8>Ahead, do we though?

687
00:46:26.719 --> 00:46:29.840
<v Speaker 7>Or is that just the influence of Star Trek and

688
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:35.599
<v Speaker 7>Star Wars and all that other science fiction that's creeped

689
00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:39.119
<v Speaker 7>into our lives and over the years, because if you

690
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:43.079
<v Speaker 7>talk to scientists, sometimes will tell you that, you know,

691
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:46.079
<v Speaker 7>that just doesn't make sense for some species of extraterrestrials

692
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:49.639
<v Speaker 7>based upon the type of environment they live in. But

693
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:53.639
<v Speaker 7>then again you go into things like, you know, we've

694
00:46:53.639 --> 00:47:02.760
<v Speaker 7>talked about shape shifters and are they non biologics or

695
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:09.480
<v Speaker 7>are they just a different biological, biologically evolved species than

696
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:13.360
<v Speaker 7>us that occupy the same planet. We don't know. It's

697
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:17.440
<v Speaker 7>it's weird. It's weird as hell. This show is getting

698
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:18.280
<v Speaker 7>into the weird tonight.

699
00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:24.440
<v Speaker 8>That's okay, okay, question right now.

700
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:27.679
<v Speaker 7>You go into skinned walkers, you go into different creatures

701
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:28.639
<v Speaker 7>reported through.

702
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:29.440
<v Speaker 8>Different myth and.

703
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:35.400
<v Speaker 7>It does make you wonder there are you know, portions

704
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:37.840
<v Speaker 7>of this, you know, even the Bigfoot mystery. You know,

705
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:42.199
<v Speaker 7>folks like to make you know, comparisons to the you know,

706
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:45.119
<v Speaker 7>Wen Diego and what have you, which is not a Bigfoot.

707
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:48.360
<v Speaker 7>It's something completely different. I think that's more of a

708
00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:54.719
<v Speaker 7>spiritual entity than Bigfoot. But you know, again, there are

709
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:57.239
<v Speaker 7>people that think bigfoots a spiritual entity and that.

710
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:02.880
<v Speaker 1>But does this not go back back to how many people,

711
00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:08.679
<v Speaker 1>whether they're not researchers or they are researchers, you take

712
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:15.440
<v Speaker 1>both categories, and they have an experience with a bipedal creature,

713
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:19.599
<v Speaker 1>but they've also had an experience with these strange lights,

714
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:24.599
<v Speaker 1>these orbs moving throughout the forest. It's happened a number

715
00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:27.880
<v Speaker 1>of times. You'll have people that have had a bigfoot

716
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:31.960
<v Speaker 1>encounter and it takes them, you know, five years to

717
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:34.800
<v Speaker 1>get out into the woods again to figure out what

718
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:37.360
<v Speaker 1>it is that they saw, and now they're seeing these

719
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:40.079
<v Speaker 1>light orbs in the same area in which they had

720
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:46.719
<v Speaker 1>this encounter. Clearly there's something going on that's very strange,

721
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:52.079
<v Speaker 1>and it's happened numerous times. It has happened numerous times

722
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:56.159
<v Speaker 1>where you're gonna go out there, You're going to try

723
00:48:56.199 --> 00:49:01.679
<v Speaker 1>to record and find this mysterious being that we don't

724
00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:05.159
<v Speaker 1>know a whole lot about, and then these light orbs

725
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:08.079
<v Speaker 1>show up and it's like, well, that took us off

726
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:12.079
<v Speaker 1>in a completely different direction. What are these things doing

727
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:17.199
<v Speaker 1>and where do they come from?

728
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:20.000
<v Speaker 12>But if they've always been there and now you're tuned

729
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:22.519
<v Speaker 12>to see them, do you know what I mean? Like,

730
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:25.480
<v Speaker 12>I know plenty of people that once they've seen something,

731
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:31.199
<v Speaker 12>everything has a purpose when before it was just something minor,

732
00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:35.480
<v Speaker 12>you know. And I'm not dissuading what they see or

733
00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:38.440
<v Speaker 12>whatever it is. But like like you said, is somebody

734
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:39.920
<v Speaker 12>goes out in the woods, ain't been out.

735
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:40.800
<v Speaker 8>There in five years.

736
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:43.280
<v Speaker 12>They're a little twitchy as it is, and everything they

737
00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:44.639
<v Speaker 12>see is like, oh, what was that?

738
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:45.280
<v Speaker 10>What was this?

739
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:45.920
<v Speaker 14>You know?

740
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:47.440
<v Speaker 8>Like technically, if you look.

741
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:50.360
<v Speaker 12>Behind my head, that's the light for my turtle.

742
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:55.960
<v Speaker 8>But somebody could say there's an orb there. Yeah, yeah, gebo,

743
00:49:56.679 --> 00:49:57.480
<v Speaker 8>you know keeps.

744
00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:00.360
<v Speaker 12>I bet the turtles think it's their son. God, you know,

745
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:02.679
<v Speaker 12>I mean all perspective.

746
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:03.239
<v Speaker 8>Right, you know.

747
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:07.119
<v Speaker 6>Now, And that's understandable.

748
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:12.119
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of the excitement of seeing something

749
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:16.440
<v Speaker 1>like this is very tangible. Like I said, I have,

750
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:19.920
<v Speaker 1>you know a couple of times in my life have seen.

751
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:23.920
<v Speaker 6>Stuff I can't explain what it was.

752
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:28.079
<v Speaker 1>And it moved in a way I should say they

753
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:30.719
<v Speaker 1>moved in a way because there was a number of

754
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:38.559
<v Speaker 1>them that just seemed not human, certainly not human ability

755
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:42.039
<v Speaker 1>to travel the speeds in which they did and travel

756
00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:44.559
<v Speaker 1>the heights in which they did. And I stood there,

757
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:47.840
<v Speaker 1>completely stunned, going what am I looking at? I have

758
00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:51.400
<v Speaker 1>no idea. I don't think that that was something that

759
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:56.719
<v Speaker 1>was created by you know, fish birds. No, I don't,

760
00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:01.119
<v Speaker 1>because when you're looking at it, unexpect I mean, this

761
00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:05.920
<v Speaker 1>happened without any intent of wanting to see something. This

762
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:08.800
<v Speaker 1>was going out to go have a cigarette and the

763
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:11.679
<v Speaker 1>next thing you know, I'm watching this stuff and I'm like,

764
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:13.480
<v Speaker 1>what is that?

765
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:15.360
<v Speaker 4>So?

766
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:21.559
<v Speaker 7>And you can't rule out things like misidentification and that excitement,

767
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:25.559
<v Speaker 7>but not misidentification of the creature. What if it's misidentification

768
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:30.280
<v Speaker 7>of an object, right, misidentification of something else associated with it?

769
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:34.119
<v Speaker 7>As we start talking about these things being seen reported

770
00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:38.679
<v Speaker 7>carrying balls of light or what have you, what if

771
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:41.280
<v Speaker 7>it's a reflector of some sort it happened to pick

772
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:45.119
<v Speaker 7>up or even self illuminating. What if the damn thing

773
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:48.800
<v Speaker 7>picked up someone's lantern. I mean, things we just don't know,

774
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:53.280
<v Speaker 7>maybe don't think about as possibilities. Now it's a stretch.

775
00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:56.599
<v Speaker 7>I give you that it's probably a major stretch. But

776
00:51:57.280 --> 00:51:59.519
<v Speaker 7>think about these things. You know, you've heard over the

777
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:05.880
<v Speaker 7>years of sasquatch, you know, having that cloaking ability. Right,

778
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:08.719
<v Speaker 7>What if it's not cloaking at all, and it's just

779
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:11.320
<v Speaker 7>how the sun's hitting the hairs on the bigfoot variety.

780
00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:14.280
<v Speaker 7>You know, Matt, we've talked about that ad nauseum in

781
00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:18.320
<v Speaker 7>the past, about the you know way light bends and

782
00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:22.199
<v Speaker 7>is manipulated more easily than we've ever thought it was before.

783
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:26.840
<v Speaker 7>You know, could that explain some of the other phenomena

784
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:29.320
<v Speaker 7>we see? And then the mind puts things together and

785
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:31.920
<v Speaker 7>then all of a sudden we observe something we really

786
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:35.480
<v Speaker 7>didn't observe. The mind just as Baker said earlier, filled

787
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:40.519
<v Speaker 7>in the blanks, right, these things are real potentials and

788
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:44.400
<v Speaker 7>we can't rule them out. I got a copy of

789
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:47.159
<v Speaker 7>Astonishing Encounters right here by Stan Gordon, right in front

790
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:48.480
<v Speaker 7>of me, and I was just running through it real

791
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:52.360
<v Speaker 7>quick for some reference. While we were talking, we had

792
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:55.159
<v Speaker 7>the big Foot bullhoard going on, and there was a

793
00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:57.960
<v Speaker 7>story on page twenty nine of the book called out

794
00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:03.320
<v Speaker 7>of Focus Bigfoot in Cambria, accounting at about three point

795
00:53:03.320 --> 00:53:06.159
<v Speaker 7>fifteen in the morning on June twenty fourth, nineteen ninety five.

796
00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:08.599
<v Speaker 7>The witness, Joe and a friend, were driving west on

797
00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:11.599
<v Speaker 7>Route four twenty two and had just passed the town

798
00:53:11.639 --> 00:53:13.960
<v Speaker 7>of Revloc, which is a sister sitting in the town

799
00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:17.320
<v Speaker 7>of Culvert. Joe noticed in the distance, about a quarter

800
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:19.880
<v Speaker 7>of a mile away, on a straight stretch, that something,

801
00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:22.360
<v Speaker 7>what he thought at first was a deer, was in

802
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:25.320
<v Speaker 7>the center of the road. As it approached closer, he

803
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:28.480
<v Speaker 7>saw an animal that looked tall, was covered with dark

804
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:31.679
<v Speaker 7>brown hair, and stood on two legs in the middle

805
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:34.480
<v Speaker 7>of the road. Joe and his friend were familiar with

806
00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:37.079
<v Speaker 7>bear and during his life, Joe had seen a number

807
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:40.079
<v Speaker 7>of bear, both in daylight as well as night, and

808
00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:43.159
<v Speaker 7>realized this creature was not a bear or anything he

809
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:46.519
<v Speaker 7>was familiar with. Joe approached the creature to the vehicles

810
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:48.679
<v Speaker 7>about fifty feet away from it. Fifty feet is not

811
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:52.880
<v Speaker 7>that far. The creature, which was about seven feet tall,

812
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:56.840
<v Speaker 7>stood erect, was covered with dark brown hair, had long arms,

813
00:53:56.840 --> 00:54:00.000
<v Speaker 7>and looked away about four hundred pounds. Joe told me

814
00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:02.360
<v Speaker 7>that whatever this thing was, it was tall, with a

815
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:06.320
<v Speaker 7>small waist and had broad shoulders. As the two men watched,

816
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:08.880
<v Speaker 7>the huge, hairy creature turned sideways and took a few

817
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:11.480
<v Speaker 7>long strides and walked from the center of Roote four

818
00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:15.360
<v Speaker 7>twenty two west from the right to left. It continued

819
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:17.320
<v Speaker 7>to move off the road and proceeded up a small

820
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:21.519
<v Speaker 7>embankment and into a wooded area. Joe said that as

821
00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:24.480
<v Speaker 7>soon as his passenger saw the hairy biped he yelled

822
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:28.519
<v Speaker 7>out loud, dark brown, tall, wide chest, two legs as

823
00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:31.639
<v Speaker 7>he started describing it. But Joe also mentioned that there

824
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:34.000
<v Speaker 7>was an odd detail that was observed as the creature

825
00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:37.239
<v Speaker 7>went up the side of the hill. Joe stated that

826
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:39.840
<v Speaker 7>the chest area of the animal was wide and deep,

827
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:42.599
<v Speaker 7>but the lower half of the body appeared to be

828
00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:47.360
<v Speaker 7>slightly out of focus. That out of phased appearance followed

829
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:50.440
<v Speaker 7>the creature as it walked. The witness stressed that it

830
00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:52.719
<v Speaker 7>was not fog and that it was his clear night

831
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:56.159
<v Speaker 7>at the time of the observation. Joe pulled his truck

832
00:54:56.199 --> 00:54:58.840
<v Speaker 7>over as the creature moved into the woods. He tried

833
00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:01.800
<v Speaker 7>to position the truck to sh his headlights towards the area,

834
00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:04.920
<v Speaker 7>but was not successful. He shut off the truck engine

835
00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:07.400
<v Speaker 7>and rolled down his window, but noticed no sound or smell.

836
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:10.000
<v Speaker 7>Joe admitted at that point that both of the men

837
00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:13.039
<v Speaker 7>were scared. They sat there a couple of minutes before

838
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:16.920
<v Speaker 7>a couple of minutes, but nothing further had happened.

839
00:55:17.199 --> 00:55:18.840
<v Speaker 8>So it was a very interesting scenarios.

840
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<v Speaker 7>We're talking about the lower half of that body being

841
00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:24.400
<v Speaker 7>out of phase, right, we talk about how light bends

842
00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:27.559
<v Speaker 7>and white light effects, and you know there again you

843
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:32.119
<v Speaker 7>have headlights shining and illuminating. It just kind of caught

844
00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:33.920
<v Speaker 7>me attention there as we were talking about some of this.

845
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:38.360
<v Speaker 7>Is that exactly orbes but still weird phenomena.

846
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<v Speaker 1>Right, And I still I don't know if you're on

847
00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:48.079
<v Speaker 1>the same page with me. Sean to start my investigation.

848
00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:51.519
<v Speaker 1>And when they say start the investigation, it's been started,

849
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:56.239
<v Speaker 1>but I'm it started on the flesh and blood.

850
00:55:56.960 --> 00:55:59.039
<v Speaker 14>I'm not going to go to the WU and I'm

851
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<v Speaker 14>not going to go to this you know, other dimensional,

852
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:08.440
<v Speaker 14>not to say that it's not, but I want to

853
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:11.719
<v Speaker 14>start in one spot and research it until the point

854
00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:16.880
<v Speaker 14>is completely exhausted before I move on to something to say, yeah,

855
00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:17.920
<v Speaker 14>this is paranormal.

856
00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:22.679
<v Speaker 7>No, And I think that's a fair position. Vance I

857
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:25.840
<v Speaker 7>spent my whole life in this camp of flesh and blood,

858
00:56:26.719 --> 00:56:31.039
<v Speaker 7>because that's what I truly believe this to be. However,

859
00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:37.159
<v Speaker 7>that does not negate the potential for some unexplained phenomena

860
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:41.559
<v Speaker 7>be attached to it, or that it has capabilities that

861
00:56:41.599 --> 00:56:44.119
<v Speaker 7>we don't know because we haven't been able to see

862
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:48.079
<v Speaker 7>that in other creatures. Right, does this thing have an intelligence?

863
00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:49.519
<v Speaker 8>I don't know.

864
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:52.360
<v Speaker 7>I think it does a really good job of hiding.

865
00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:56.800
<v Speaker 7>But there's that that's a different type of intelligence. You know,

866
00:56:56.840 --> 00:57:00.519
<v Speaker 7>there's a self preservation. But what if and here we

867
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:03.039
<v Speaker 7>go with those what IFFs? This is a lot more

868
00:57:03.079 --> 00:57:06.039
<v Speaker 7>intelligent than we give it credit for. Right, I don't

869
00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:10.119
<v Speaker 7>think it is, because anytime I think we've observed one,

870
00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:13.719
<v Speaker 7>that's been an O shit moment for a Sasquatch as

871
00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:17.360
<v Speaker 7>much as it's been for us. You're not sticking around

872
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:20.400
<v Speaker 7>and trying to make themselves known. Normally, when they've noticed

873
00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:23.320
<v Speaker 7>they've been observed, they try to get the hell out

874
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:26.119
<v Speaker 7>of dodge themselves. Now that's not always the case, but

875
00:57:26.159 --> 00:57:30.519
<v Speaker 7>in most situations they retreat. There are some more aggressive

876
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:35.599
<v Speaker 7>encounters that we have, but most of the time they

877
00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:36.960
<v Speaker 7>like to stay out of sight.

878
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:40.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I would stay out of sight, you know,

879
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:45.679
<v Speaker 1>from humans too, right, you know, you're look, there are

880
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:49.719
<v Speaker 1>creatures of the wild that understand what hunting is, they

881
00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:51.400
<v Speaker 1>understand what the boomstick is.

882
00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:54.639
<v Speaker 6>Good, damn right, they'll stay away from that. And they

883
00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:57.360
<v Speaker 6>see a human. Now we're out. We're done.

884
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:00.920
<v Speaker 1>We are the most dangerous species he's on this planet.

885
00:58:01.239 --> 00:58:03.679
<v Speaker 1>We're out. We're going to move along. I don't care

886
00:58:03.760 --> 00:58:07.679
<v Speaker 1>how big I am. You have some tool that can

887
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:10.480
<v Speaker 1>take me out, and I don't want no part of it.

888
00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:13.159
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just going to move along. And if you

889
00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:17.039
<v Speaker 1>shoot your pants, sorry for the language because you saw me.

890
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:19.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, too bad for you. But I'm moving on.

891
00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:22.559
<v Speaker 8>But I think that's.

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00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:27.039
<v Speaker 12>Also perspective though, because if you look at I was

893
00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:30.719
<v Speaker 12>watching a Western the other day and I watched, I watched, well,

894
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:35.800
<v Speaker 12>I can use Indian. Why not he shot four guys

895
00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:38.679
<v Speaker 12>from a distance as well as you could ever see

896
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:39.320
<v Speaker 12>a sniper.

897
00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:40.800
<v Speaker 8>And I know it's a movie.

898
00:58:41.000 --> 00:58:45.360
<v Speaker 12>But the fact is that supposedly the Native Americans saw

899
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:49.360
<v Speaker 12>these things a lot more than we did, had more general,

900
00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:53.320
<v Speaker 12>genuine interactions with them. I think it's got to come

901
00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:57.159
<v Speaker 12>down to intent. It's sort of like when the color

902
00:58:57.400 --> 00:59:03.280
<v Speaker 12>like when we tamed the West, the natural people and the.

903
00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:04.480
<v Speaker 8>Animals and everything else.

904
00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:06.320
<v Speaker 12>Are like, oh yeah, white Man's here. We need to

905
00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:10.280
<v Speaker 12>move because they're nothing. But they're going to spend more

906
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:12.960
<v Speaker 12>of them, and they're going to take what we got,

907
00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:17.559
<v Speaker 12>you know, compared to like the Native American you know,

908
00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:19.599
<v Speaker 12>was like, oh yeah, that's Bob.

909
00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:22.960
<v Speaker 8>He lives over there. He fishes like we do. I

910
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:26.039
<v Speaker 8>terminate my cave. You know, we're good.

911
00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:29.760
<v Speaker 12>I think intent has an idea of why a creature

912
00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:32.639
<v Speaker 12>would hide, and I've always said the two things.

913
00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:34.400
<v Speaker 8>It's either non existent.

914
00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:38.840
<v Speaker 12>Or it's it's extremely intelligent, because if it's not smarter

915
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:40.800
<v Speaker 12>than the average animal, then we would hit it with

916
00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:44.760
<v Speaker 12>the truck by now, you know, just as the way

917
00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:45.280
<v Speaker 12>I drive.

918
00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:51.079
<v Speaker 8>Well, Henri, did you want to add anything else here

919
00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:56.519
<v Speaker 8>before we wrap it up? No, that's it all right, folks.

920
00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:58.159
<v Speaker 7>We got to end it for tonight, but we'll bring

921
00:59:58.199 --> 01:00:01.800
<v Speaker 7>this back on another program. Next show. On the seventeenth,

922
01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:05.280
<v Speaker 7>we have Steve Coles coming on. He's gonna be talking

923
01:00:05.320 --> 01:00:09.559
<v Speaker 7>about his new book, which I'm gonna I get a

924
01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:13.519
<v Speaker 7>preview for today. I'm gonna give that a watch and see, uh,

925
01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:16.599
<v Speaker 7>give it a watch, give it a read, because rely,

926
01:00:16.719 --> 01:00:22.639
<v Speaker 7>my senses aren't altogether. It's called Bigfoot, a Scientific Examination.

927
01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:25.880
<v Speaker 7>New book coming out in March by Steve Coles. We're

928
01:00:25.880 --> 01:00:27.760
<v Speaker 7>going to have him on in two weeks to talk

929
01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:29.719
<v Speaker 7>about it. And of course it's been a long time

930
01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:35.000
<v Speaker 7>since we've had the old Squatch detective here on Sasquatch Experience.

931
01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:38.840
<v Speaker 7>And Henry, go ahead and give us those dulcic tones.

932
01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:45.760
<v Speaker 10>Be good at it.

933
01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:50.320
<v Speaker 7>There it is, folks. Thank you, We'll see you next time.

934
01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:52.559
<v Speaker 7>Keep on Squatch.

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01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:03.239
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936
01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:06.559
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937
01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:10.480
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938
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