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Speaker 5: Welcome back shoot seekers from around the world. It's time
Speaker 5: for another edition of the Flat Earth Files podcast. I
Speaker 5: hope everybody had a great weekend. As we record, it
Speaker 5: is Saturday, August second, twenty twenty five. Beautiful day here.
Speaker 5: Hope you all have great weather as well. Finally a
Speaker 5: break from the heat and the pouring torrential rain that
Speaker 5: we've had here. It's been a beautiful day. So again
Speaker 5: I hope everyone is blessed in doing well as we
Speaker 5: Again again, I should say, as we begin to close
Speaker 5: out this podcast, we have another great guest, and over
Speaker 5: the two hundred and twenty some folks we've interviewed, we'd
Speaker 5: have quite a bit of folks from Canada and tonight
Speaker 5: as well from southeastern British Columbia. Travis is joining us. Travis,
Speaker 5: how are you, sir, didn't get Thanks George, how are
Speaker 5: you doing fantastic? I appreciate you taking the time on
Speaker 5: the Saturday. I guess it's Saturday afternoon for you out
Speaker 5: there in mountain time. Why don't you take a few
Speaker 5: minutes and introduce yourself to the audience for us.
Speaker 6: So, my name's Travis. I live pretty close to moyebc,
Speaker 6: which is right probably twenty five minutes just north of
Speaker 6: the Idaho border, so we cross right at the Kingsgate Boarder. Yeah,
Speaker 6: this whole journey has been thanks to my wife. Basically,
Speaker 6: she kind of woke me up in well, I guess
Speaker 6: it was probably twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen. Was was
Speaker 6: when she kind of pointed out the initial the initial
Speaker 6: thing was kind of like the Pagan holidays for us,
Speaker 6: so which really drove a stake between us and a
Speaker 6: lot of family and friends and stuff to say, you
Speaker 6: know that that Christmas is maybe rooted in something that
Speaker 6: we should look into, and then Easter and and all
Speaker 6: those things. Right, so we uh, I mean it doesn't
Speaker 6: that kind of thing. You can you can try to
Speaker 6: talk to people. They'll either hear it or they won't
Speaker 6: write they they you can't fault people for being traditionally minded.
Speaker 6: We've all been raised with Christmas and and I think
Speaker 6: for us it was just like we it was just
Speaker 6: time to kind of break away from what was comfortable.
Speaker 6: And when you see that, you know, when Yahweh says
Speaker 6: that he doesn't want to be worshiped the way that
Speaker 6: the Pagans worshiped their gods, and we can see that
Speaker 6: a lot of the stuff that we believed and the
Speaker 6: traditions we kept even as a church, like growing up
Speaker 6: going to church, there there was Easter egg hunts on Easter,
Speaker 6: and there was there was Christmas trees in the foyer,
Speaker 6: and I just don't think at this point that those
Speaker 6: things really belong in the faith, right. I mean, when
Speaker 6: you find out that Easter comes from Ishtar or Eestora
Speaker 6: or like all the pagan religions are, you know, they
Speaker 6: all have their own versions of the same thing, right,
Speaker 6: But you know, the Tammuz or whatever, he was born
Speaker 6: from an egg. From all these things, she was the
Speaker 6: goddess of fertility and is totally responsible for whether it's
Speaker 6: the pornography industry or all the corruption and sexual problems
Speaker 6: that there are today in the world. It wasn't hard
Speaker 6: to realize, Okay, we need to step away from this, right.
Speaker 6: So yeah, and then kind of fast forward probably to
Speaker 6: twenty seventeen, and I had a bit of a bike
Speaker 6: accident and I had some injuries and I started to
Speaker 6: feel I got this burning sensation in my stomach, and
Speaker 6: so I at that point I went to the doctor
Speaker 6: and I saw a ten different doctors. You can never
Speaker 6: see your own doctor. There's always duty doctors on call
Speaker 6: and all these things right, and you re explain your
Speaker 6: problem and then they would listen to you and they
Speaker 6: would all try to just prescribe you drugs. That's how
Speaker 6: we know they do things right, and they admit it,
Speaker 6: like I would have a question for them. And the
Speaker 6: one lady told me she was a duty doctor. She said,
Speaker 6: she said, Travis, I think you are giving us too
Speaker 6: much credit. I google your symptoms when I read your
Speaker 6: when I read your report from the appointment, and I
Speaker 6: prescribe you drugs. And I don't want to hear about
Speaker 6: more than two or three problems per visit because I
Speaker 6: want you to book again. And I was like, wow.
Speaker 6: She was semi retired, and she was very honest and
Speaker 6: was in it for the money, and then I don't,
Speaker 6: you know, I don't believe they're all like that, nurses
Speaker 6: and doctors and stuff, but you you do see that
Speaker 6: there is there's a financial agenda behind that, and not
Speaker 6: everybody cares about your personal well being. They put themselves first,
Speaker 6: right And so anyways, I got prescribed lots of ant
Speaker 6: acids for this stomach problem that I had, and eventually,
Speaker 6: after almost a year, I got in and had and
Speaker 6: had a scope and they said that they found a
Speaker 6: polyp that was suspicious of lymphoma. Right, so right away
Speaker 6: they they booking in with chemo and radiation doctors for
Speaker 6: appointments and everything. And they I'm not joking, George. They
Speaker 6: they didn't want much information from me at all. It
Speaker 6: was like this is what it is, and this is
Speaker 6: what you have to do, and like we need to
Speaker 6: get going on this basically, And I said, I, you know,
Speaker 6: I can't. I can't make that decision right now like
Speaker 6: I And they say, you don't have time, like we
Speaker 6: need to get going on this, right You don't have
Speaker 6: time to look at alternative health measures. If you take
Speaker 6: high dose vitamin C or whatever, you're going to compromise
Speaker 6: your kidneys and all this stuff like, these are just
Speaker 6: local people. These are local chemo doctors from you know,
Speaker 6: Trail BC or Colonna or whatever. And it's funny because
Speaker 6: between the two meetings of the chemo doctor and the
Speaker 6: radiation doctor, the one doctor, the chemo doctor, he said,
Speaker 6: this is a blood cancer and it can't be cured
Speaker 6: with radiation. And I was like, well, then why am
Speaker 6: I talking to a radiation doctor as well? And the
Speaker 6: radiation doctor said, oh no, you can absolutely radiate that
Speaker 6: spot and it can be cured. And I said, your
Speaker 6: two stories don't don't jive right. So between the two
Speaker 6: of them, my wife she kinda we just sort of left.
Speaker 6: And you can tell that they had this attitude like
Speaker 6: I was stealing money right from their genes. And I
Speaker 6: said to my wife, like, I like, seriously, like I
Speaker 6: feel like it's a death sentence. And she wasn't really
Speaker 6: worried at all, which is comforting. You find when you're
Speaker 6: in a situation like that, about probably half the people
Speaker 6: that you talk to you can make you feel better,
Speaker 6: and havelf the people with what they say, they actually
Speaker 6: make you feel worse. Right, So to everybody that's going
Speaker 6: through that right now, I would encourage them to find
Speaker 6: some people that give them a good, you know, some
Speaker 6: hope and point them in the right direction, versus the
Speaker 6: people that are just worried and put that fear into you.
Speaker 6: That's not healthy. So anyways, we kind of proceeded with
Speaker 6: my wife. I don't know what she got into with
Speaker 6: the information and the research, but she kind of is
Speaker 6: the researcher and she she I can't remember the lady's name,
Speaker 6: but she gave me this video to listen to. And
Speaker 6: the lady basically, her premise was, man cannot cure disease
Speaker 6: with medications. It doesn't matter if it's chemo or radiation, whatever.
Speaker 6: They can't disease cannot be cured with that kind of stuff. Ultimately,
Speaker 6: the pharmaceutical industry they look at treating symptoms and it
Speaker 6: doesn't matter. There's side effects, and it's mostly side effects really.
Speaker 6: But her thing was this lady she was a doctor,
Speaker 6: and she said, you need to basically get into your
Speaker 6: Bible and you need to talk to your creator and
Speaker 6: get in line with his commandments so that you can
Speaker 6: receive his blessings and life right. And so my wife
Speaker 6: she at that point, my friend he needed some money
Speaker 6: and he had bought this pig, and he like it
Speaker 6: was a butchered pig. It was all cut and wrapped.
Speaker 6: And I said, maybe we should just bail this friend
Speaker 6: out and give him the money and get the pig.
Speaker 6: And my wife said, she said, I don't want to
Speaker 6: get into it just right yet because I'm just kind
Speaker 6: of midway through the research. But she said, I don't
Speaker 6: want to do that. I don't think we should do that.
Speaker 6: And I said, oh, okay, And so you know, another
Speaker 6: week went by and she kind of proposed me with
Speaker 6: this idea that it's possible that we should still be
Speaker 6: keeping these levitical dietary commands, right, And I didn't. I
Speaker 6: wouldn't say I lost it, but I you know, I
Speaker 6: reacted how we react when we find out about things
Speaker 6: that we're not comfortable with.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 7: We all love our bacon, right.
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I mean it's hard to Yeah, it's hard
Speaker 6: to wake somebody up to some truths like Christmas and
Speaker 6: Easter and be ripping the bacon out of our mouths
Speaker 6: at the same time. But you later find out that
Speaker 6: with the bacon, it's just the salty nitrates and the
Speaker 6: smoky flavor, that's what you liked it. Wasn't the actual
Speaker 6: meat anyways. So we we looked into that, and you know,
Speaker 6: we all learn that Noah when he brought the animals
Speaker 6: onto the arc, every little kid remembers it was two
Speaker 6: by two when you think two of each channel, well
Speaker 6: it was you know, seven of every unclean and seven
Speaker 6: pairs of every clean animal. So you look into that
Speaker 6: and it's like, well, Noah preceded Israel by hundreds of years, right,
Speaker 6: Like so if Noah knew what was clean and unclean
Speaker 6: before God ever had this covenant with Israel, so does
Speaker 6: it really make sense that he would have these dietary
Speaker 6: commands for pre Israel and then it you know, for Israel,
Speaker 6: and everybody says those commands are for the Jews. But
Speaker 6: then you know, post issue a coming and you know,
Speaker 6: dying on the cross. Now suddenly there's like these new
Speaker 6: rules that one day when we're all you know, facing
Speaker 6: judgment Day, which is the same day for every person
Speaker 6: that's ever walked this earth, how can we kind of
Speaker 6: believe that they'll be judged differently than we will for
Speaker 6: the same you know, the same things. So for me personally,
Speaker 6: it was kind of a you know, you don't like
Speaker 6: to to change your ways. But realistically it wasn't that
Speaker 6: big of a change. Like you basically eat You basically
Speaker 6: eat bacon, and some people have the odd shrimp ring
Speaker 6: or something, and like, no, nobody's eating owls or ravens
Speaker 6: or all the other parts of that command. Right, So
Speaker 6: it's the it literally is basically the pork. So and
Speaker 6: then if you look at secular science, even even secular
Speaker 6: science and doctors, they'll say like seventy percent of pork,
Speaker 6: random pork samples have these dangerous parasites it's trigonosis or whatever, right,
Speaker 6: And they lots of people say they didn't know how
Speaker 6: to cook, you know, the parasites out of the pork
Speaker 6: back then and all this stuff, and it's like, no,
Speaker 6: I think you're not giving people enough credit of you know,
Speaker 6: what they used to do and how they used to cook.
Speaker 6: So yeah, it just that was a that was the
Speaker 6: kind of first part of it all leading in. And
Speaker 6: so I did go for some cancer appointments where they
Speaker 6: did follow up scopes every six months. I think I
Speaker 6: went back for five appointments, and my this is like,
Speaker 6: it's crazy. I was in Cranbrook at the time, which
Speaker 6: is a small town twenty thousand they or so people.
Speaker 6: And the doctor that did my my scope, he was
Speaker 6: actually a He went to this Baptist church that we attended,
Speaker 6: right and he he said, so, how did the chemo go?
Speaker 6: And I said, I didn't do any chemo. He said, yes,
Speaker 6: you did, and I said, no, I didn't. He said
Speaker 6: you did. And I'm like, I didn't, Like, I didn't
Speaker 6: do chemo. I didn't your radiation like I would know.
Speaker 6: And so he said, well, you're fine, You've been clear
Speaker 6: every time. So so it's personal for me, Like I know,
Speaker 6: people say, like nobody wants to hear it, nobody wants
Speaker 6: to believe that those commandments can still apply to us today.
Speaker 6: But for me personally, like that's the thing that we
Speaker 6: changed and my symptoms had gone away. We weren't eating
Speaker 6: pork all the time. We did eat bacon and stuff.
Speaker 6: But I think that at this point that was in
Speaker 6: twenty that was in twenty eighteen. My daughter, she's six now,
Speaker 6: she was she was born in the beginning of twenty nineteen,
Speaker 6: and that was kind of when I was sort of
Speaker 6: going through it all. So that was six years ago now,
Speaker 6: and I actually haven't been to a doctor since my
Speaker 6: last appointment I canceled, and I just said somebody else
Speaker 6: can have this one because I'm done showing up for these.
Speaker 6: So yeah, then at that point, George, do you want
Speaker 6: to intercede with anything? I feel like I've been talking
Speaker 6: for too long.
Speaker 5: No, it's fine, because I'm glad you mentioned that I
Speaker 5: actually had to go.
Speaker 7: I verrely.
Speaker 5: Over my first fifty five years of life, I've very
Speaker 5: rarely been ill.
Speaker 7: Three times.
Speaker 5: I'm sad to go to the er this year because
Speaker 5: two times because my throat losing my voice. I was
Speaker 5: reading through the Book of Jubileese the other day because
Speaker 5: it kind of is a I look at it as
Speaker 5: a supporting book of Genesis. Understand it's not canon, but
Speaker 5: Jubileese chapter ten, verse ten says and Noah wrote down
Speaker 5: in a book all the medicines of their diseases, how
Speaker 5: he had healed.
Speaker 7: Them with the herbs of the earth.
Speaker 5: So this makes you go, hmm, did they really hide
Speaker 5: or you know, not hide, but try to keep us
Speaker 5: away from reading verses like this, Like we've mentioned Jubilees
Speaker 5: and Enoch. When it comes to the firmament and Biblical cosmology,
Speaker 5: which is what this podcast is basically about. So obviously
Speaker 5: that's going to be a topic of conversation. But when
Speaker 5: I read that and then you think back to the
Speaker 5: word pharmachea and things of that nature, and then you
Speaker 5: hear your story of how you overcame, and you know,
Speaker 5: with this Messianic movement, which is a very fast growing movement,
Speaker 5: Like I listened to a gentleman from the Assembly of
Speaker 5: Yahweh and North Alabama and also very much a Saturday
Speaker 5: Sabbath guy and still honors the dietary laws in the
Speaker 5: Torah that he feels is still valid and beneficial. You know,
Speaker 5: Genesis to Deuteronomy, Leviticus eleven, Deuteronomy fourteen to be specific.
Speaker 5: And you know, the more I think about it, and
Speaker 5: I ponder these things all the time, and you know,
Speaker 5: you can find scriptures if you read the ESV Bible
Speaker 5: that in the New Testament, there's almost a supporting document
Speaker 5: in the Old Testament for almost every verse. So it
Speaker 5: is something that even to myself, I've been thinking about
Speaker 5: a lot. And then kind of going over to pagan holidays,
Speaker 5: that's something I was introduced to many many years ago,
Speaker 5: and I had a conversation with a pastor down the
Speaker 5: road who, like I guess their church attendance was almost
Speaker 5: ripped in half. And that's you know, you look at
Speaker 5: people like Dean Odle who have the courage to talk
Speaker 5: about biblical cosmology in his church, knowing the ramifications, and
Speaker 5: apparently there was somebody at their church who said, I've
Speaker 5: refused to come to my church on Easter Sunday, right,
Speaker 5: one of the holiest days of the year, if not
Speaker 5: the holiest day of the year. Jesus, you know, resurrecting
Speaker 5: from the dead and you know, basically starting the church,
Speaker 5: the new Church right and saving our sins and you
Speaker 5: want to look for eggs And that's basically the conversation
Speaker 5: that took place. And the traditionalists were very upset by this.
Speaker 5: They're like, it's for the kids, how dare you do this?
Speaker 5: And the Easter, you know, the pastor always got up
Speaker 5: in the Easter bunny outfit and they took pictures. And
Speaker 5: the older I get in just the more life experience
Speaker 5: I have. It's not about being smarter or going to college.
Speaker 5: It's just about life lessons and understanding God's law. You know,
Speaker 5: there may be a place for people in downtown on
Speaker 5: a Friday afternoon to do an a hunt that maybe
Speaker 5: in them all if you want to take your son's
Speaker 5: picture with Santa. But I noticed and it really affected
Speaker 5: me last holidays that I don't think that the traditional
Speaker 5: side of that, especially even I cringe when I see
Speaker 5: a tree in a church. And I know there's some
Speaker 5: people come on man light now, but again, you know
Speaker 5: there's still some validity. You know, just because there's a
Speaker 5: new Covenant doesn't mean you disregard the first thirty nine
Speaker 5: books of the Bible. Right, I'm thinking, and I've been
Speaker 5: on the fence too with pork and to the fact
Speaker 5: now that I think God's telling me, I'm just like
Speaker 5: we talk about, we're just putting the blinders on because
Speaker 5: you know, breakfast is always Yeah, breakfast has always been
Speaker 5: a big part of our family. And I'm from the
Speaker 5: I'm from the mary Dell region where you know scrapple
Speaker 5: and bacon, that is like a staple. But you know,
Speaker 5: also I'm older now and you learn that you can
Speaker 5: either please God or you can please yourself. Now, obviously
Speaker 5: you can please both, right, you can do things. It
Speaker 5: shouldn't be a burden, right, But at the same time,
Speaker 5: you know, as I get older, I'm starting to see
Speaker 5: these things like everything you mentioned today, it's been I've
Speaker 5: come across all this information and again I've been everybody,
Speaker 5: go ahead.
Speaker 6: Everybody, all the You know, whenever you talk to a
Speaker 6: Christian about this sort of thing, they always talk about
Speaker 6: the sheet with the four corners and and take that
Speaker 6: sort of passage out of context, where you know, he
Speaker 6: see he made that's Jesus the cleared all foods clean.
Speaker 6: And it's like that specific notation in parentheses was added
Speaker 6: in the nineteen fifties, you find out, and it was
Speaker 6: never that was never in any version before that. And
Speaker 6: they were talking about gentiles, they weren't talking about food, right,
Speaker 6: kill and eat the pig. People say, like Yeshua, if
Speaker 6: he suddenly decided to say to everyone that now you
Speaker 6: can eat unclean foods, they probably would have just killed
Speaker 6: him right then and there, like he because they already
Speaker 6: had questions about him being who he says he was,
Speaker 6: and wouldn't have had, you know, the authority just come
Speaker 6: and change the laws of the father, right so to Yeah,
Speaker 6: I don't know. And you mentioned Jubileese, like I think
Speaker 6: it's Jubilees twenty three verse twenty six. Do you have
Speaker 6: it there?
Speaker 7: But I can find it. What was it again, Jubilees
Speaker 7: twenty three.
Speaker 6: I think it's twenty three twenty six.
Speaker 5: To oh, you know, sometimes the internet can be great.
Speaker 7: I guess I should have put a I did put
Speaker 7: a call in there.
Speaker 5: It's talking about the focus on the theme of the Covenant,
Speaker 5: faithfulness and its consequences, both positive and negative for the Israelites,
Speaker 5: even in the in Malachi I the Lord do not
Speaker 5: change Matthew five point seventeen. Do not think I had
Speaker 5: it up here. Do not think that I have come
Speaker 5: to abolish the law or the profits. I have not
Speaker 5: come to abolish them, but to fulfill them.
Speaker 6: And fulfill meaning like not like you know, you fulfill
Speaker 6: sounds like just be done with it. And it's like
Speaker 6: I did not come to abolish, but what to abolish
Speaker 6: that doesn't make sense. To fulfill, meaning like to fill
Speaker 6: up to its highest potential, or to you know, to
Speaker 6: do it as as perfect as it can be done. Right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I found it.
Speaker 5: It says in those days, this is Jubilee's twenty three
Speaker 5: verse twenty six, And in those days the children shall
Speaker 5: begin to study the laws and to seek the commandments,
Speaker 5: and to.
Speaker 7: Return to the path of righteousness.
Speaker 5: And I'll tell you, over the last three or four years,
Speaker 5: it seems like there is a spiritual awakening and people
Speaker 5: are starting to ask the questions.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 5: We talk about the double edged sort of technology, the
Speaker 5: kids with TikTok and you know, being able to access
Speaker 5: pornography on your phone in your pocket, but also the
Speaker 5: sharing of information. There's a lot of people who are
Speaker 5: becoming awake and seeing the truth. And you know that
Speaker 5: verse right there really really shines the light on that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's like that's a future prophecy, like in
Speaker 6: the coming days they will start to seek after the
Speaker 6: commandments and in his righteousness, which he defines as following
Speaker 6: his laws. Law sounds so like they talk about legalism, right,
Speaker 6: and like Tora just means teaching. It's like the instruction
Speaker 6: book for how we're supposed to live lives. When you
Speaker 6: look at the Torah and it seems so burdensome it realistically,
Speaker 6: I think there's like maybe six hundred and thirteen commandments
Speaker 6: that you can count or something like that in the Torah,
Speaker 6: and how many of them apply to you? You're a
Speaker 6: you're not a woman, you're not a child, you're not
Speaker 6: a farmer, you're not a levitical priest. You're not you know,
Speaker 6: you're not a lot of things, but the ones that
Speaker 6: do apply, most of them you already keep. Anyways, it
Speaker 6: literally comes down to the blessing of trying to observe.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying do it exactly the way that they
Speaker 6: had to do it then, because there's things that have changed.
Speaker 6: We don't have a temple, we don't have a priesthood,
Speaker 6: like a physical priesthood and stuff, but to observe His
Speaker 6: biblical holidays. People don't want to get rid of Christmas
Speaker 6: in Easter. But there's seven biblical modeem which are like
Speaker 6: his holy set apart days that are part of his
Speaker 6: calendar that people are so really trying to find the
Speaker 6: right one and doesn't seem to be real obvious for anyone.
Speaker 6: So that's always a point of contention. But I think
Speaker 6: in the end, I think it that it matters less
Speaker 6: about if you happen to choose the right calendar, or
Speaker 6: you know, if your calendar is slightly different if you're
Speaker 6: on the Zadok or the Enoch or the lunar or
Speaker 6: the lunar solar or the whatever.
Speaker 8: Like.
Speaker 6: People talk about how they pray and they and they
Speaker 6: receive this thing where they feel like they're on the
Speaker 6: right calendar. Well, we've done that too, and we're we
Speaker 6: kind of follow like a Zadok Enoch calendar, and there's
Speaker 6: reasons why we do that. But definitely, like most most
Speaker 6: of these days, like where we observe of the Passover,
Speaker 6: the Feast of Tabernacles or anything, there's like a double
Speaker 6: rainbow in the sky or some some sign right like
Speaker 6: a shooting star at night, or it would kind of
Speaker 6: lead you to believe you're on the right calendar. But
Speaker 6: everybody has these stories. I think what he cares Voute
Speaker 6: ultimately is that you personally are trying to seek him
Speaker 6: and He's going to show everybody something that they can
Speaker 6: handle in the time that they're ready for it. Like
Speaker 6: I can tell you to stop eating bacon today, Georgian,
Speaker 6: I can't tell you to stop eating bacon. You need
Speaker 6: to decide for you. And it's not between me and you.
Speaker 6: It never was. It's it's between you and him. It's
Speaker 6: between me and him. So that's just my thing with that.
Speaker 6: It's like put one vote for Torah because let's say
Speaker 6: let's say you, you know, you adopt a Filipino kid,
Speaker 6: and you've got five of your own. Is that is
Speaker 6: that Filipino kid going to come and live in your
Speaker 6: house and have a different set of rules than your
Speaker 6: native born children. It doesn't work like that, Like that
Speaker 6: kid is now your kid, and he's going to be
Speaker 6: living under the same rules. And that was numbers fifteen
Speaker 6: where he talks about, you know, one set of laws
Speaker 6: for the native born Israel Israelite and the the sojourner, right,
Speaker 6: like that's always been how it was if it was
Speaker 6: for Noah and then it was for Israel, and Yeshua
Speaker 6: did it like if the truth is in you, he
Speaker 6: would walk just as he walked and said. And so
Speaker 6: that's basically a lot of people, you know. Another whole
Speaker 6: segue into that is kind of like people talk about
Speaker 6: how you know a lot of Paul how he says that,
Speaker 6: you know, Jesus is the end of the law and
Speaker 6: all this stuff. And to me, whenever it seems like
Speaker 6: you can take Paul's words and contradict them with Yeshua's words,
Speaker 6: then obviously I would always choose the red letters in
Speaker 6: the in the script. Right, it's if you know, if
Speaker 6: Yeshua says don't eat meat, sacrifice the idols, and then
Speaker 6: Paul turns around and says, well, I can eat that
Speaker 6: meat because those idols are nothing. Then it's like, well,
Speaker 6: I will just error on the side of what Yashua said,
Speaker 6: and and if it says hellal, I'll probably bow out.
Speaker 6: So that's such a big thing. Now there's a whole
Speaker 6: section in our grocery store that says hellal foods. Right,
Speaker 6: and if it's you know, if that chicken was sacrificed
Speaker 6: to an idol, I'm not only for the reasons that
Speaker 6: it was probably injected with m RNA, but I'm gonna
Speaker 6: avoid that chicken.
Speaker 7: An I'm not gonna eat that swing chicken, that's for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 7: so a lot of points go ahead.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, No, no, it's all good. I feel bad
Speaker 6: not getting into the the amongst all those findings and
Speaker 6: and everything, she mentioned that she thought that the earth
Speaker 6: made me flat and that I lost it. I because
Speaker 6: up until that point, you know, every time she proposed
Speaker 6: something to me, I would always get mad, and I
Speaker 6: would always like, you're always coming up with these things.
Speaker 6: You just believe everything you read on the Internet or whatever.
Speaker 6: And and then of course I would get to the
Speaker 6: point where I had to test it for myself and
Speaker 6: and it turned out she was right so far. So
Speaker 6: this time I kind of flew off the handle and
Speaker 6: she gave me the two hundred proof sent a little
Speaker 6: bit of Mark Sergeant, and I listened to that stuff
Speaker 6: and I started to I think I didn't accept it,
Speaker 6: but I eventually got used to listening to her talk
Speaker 6: about it until I don't know, it was like a
Speaker 6: transition where I just maybe I just got so used
Speaker 6: to her talking to it about it with her friend
Speaker 6: and her sister and stuff that I don't know if
Speaker 6: I just started to be okay with it, and man,
Speaker 6: fast forward a few years later, and it's like I
Speaker 6: started listening to whether it was your I didn't come
Speaker 6: to your podcast right away, but I started listening to
Speaker 6: these debates with Austin Witztt versus whoever else. Right, He's
Speaker 6: amazing hat talking about the science behind it all, and
Speaker 6: I like stuff like that. So it just after a while,
Speaker 6: I was just like passionate about it. I was like,
Speaker 6: this is crazy. It's so crazy that we didn't see
Speaker 6: this all along, Like it's it's definitely the default is
Speaker 6: that we are not spinning and swirling, and like you know,
Speaker 6: you sit out by the river and it's just calm
Speaker 6: and glass, and there's people stuck in marbles with chopsticks
Speaker 6: and balancing on top of one another, and it's not
Speaker 6: even like it's even if it was the earth is
Speaker 6: spinning and staying at a perfectly constant speed in one
Speaker 6: direction and the atmosphere was all turning out the same,
Speaker 6: maybe that would work, but that's not what they say,
Speaker 6: Like they say, we're spinning and we're corkscrewing, and we're
Speaker 6: going in like four different dimension of travel. It doesn't
Speaker 6: it can't work now.
Speaker 5: And the waters, you know, we see the water perfectly calm,
Speaker 5: you see somebody walking a tight rope. And then you
Speaker 5: get the heresy of nildergrass Tyson talking about that field
Speaker 5: goal hit the upright because the earth was spinning, or
Speaker 5: just all you stuff like that. And that's really the
Speaker 5: basic thing that once you're fully awake, is that you
Speaker 5: have to have a baseline of really trusting nothing outside
Speaker 5: of your Bible and making them prove, whether it's satellites,
Speaker 5: whether it's heliocentrism, all of that stuff. And the second
Speaker 5: thing is if you know it in your heart that
Speaker 5: it's that we are not spinning that we should maybe
Speaker 5: build up the courage to have conversation and again the
Speaker 5: same of what you were talking about earlier. All you
Speaker 5: can do is present this to people. I've come to
Speaker 5: the point in my life where if they're going to
Speaker 5: turn their back on me as a friend, then I
Speaker 5: guess they weren't close enough a friend, because I've got
Speaker 5: enough emails to understand that this is a very important topic.
Speaker 5: It has literally brought people to Jesus and Lord and
Speaker 5: for them to understand that he's not living in some
Speaker 5: other dimension.
Speaker 7: He's right above us.
Speaker 5: So I too, once I got over the self shaming,
Speaker 5: like I can't believe they fooled me, you know, I
Speaker 5: became humble enough to accept that that was the truth
Speaker 5: and then to pick up the mantle and run with it,
Speaker 5: which I think everyone should do if you're able to.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I spent so many years of my life kind
Speaker 6: of just seeking after things that are fun, right like
Speaker 6: mountain biking and dirt biking and all the things that
Speaker 6: were just a distraction. I still like to do those things,
Speaker 6: but it like it was my I grew up going
Speaker 6: to church, and it was it was always kind of
Speaker 6: on the back burner. And everything you know was about
Speaker 6: having fun. And then when you kind of get put
Speaker 6: in a situation where you feel like your mortality is
Speaker 6: at hand, you realize that if you could go back,
Speaker 6: you would change things. The things that matter to you,
Speaker 6: the things that matter then don't don't matter at all,
Speaker 6: and the things that never mattered to you before start
Speaker 6: to be the things that matter. And it's you kind
Speaker 6: of hope that people don't have to go through those
Speaker 6: feelings and those I shouldn't say fear, but it was.
Speaker 6: It was a scary time for me, and and that
Speaker 6: is kind of what pushed me over the edge to
Speaker 6: make some different decisions.
Speaker 7: Right So.
Speaker 6: In the end, I think that hopefully I'm better for it,
Speaker 6: and and can I have had a lot of opportunity.
Speaker 6: I worked for a telecommunication company here in Canada. I
Speaker 6: won't say its name, but you can probably guess of
Speaker 6: one of them, you know, I was. I was a
Speaker 6: home installer, so I did like internet, phone, television, and
Speaker 6: security systems for them. And I was in people's houses
Speaker 6: every day I spent I probably went into three totally
Speaker 6: new houses every single day for almost six years. And
Speaker 6: you're in somebody's house for like three hours so most
Speaker 6: people don't just leave you to it. They kind of
Speaker 6: follow you around and want to make sure you're not
Speaker 6: going through their sock draw I guess or something. But
Speaker 6: they end up you end up learning a lot of
Speaker 6: really deep things about people and what they're going through.
Speaker 6: And I had so much opportunity to tell people what
Speaker 6: I was going through to and what I had been through.
Speaker 6: And it seemed like with the Torah stuff and with
Speaker 6: even flat Earth stuff and everything, like I didn't care.
Speaker 6: I never cared about what people thought about anything, because
Speaker 6: I had my own experiences and I knew what was
Speaker 6: important at this point. But I got more pushback from
Speaker 6: Christians than people that had no background in anything like that,
Speaker 6: especially with Tora, right, because like I say, there's this
Speaker 6: hyper Grace movement that all these churches they kind of
Speaker 6: just stick to this New Testament ideology, and and it's
Speaker 6: really hard to sit down and actually be honest with
Speaker 6: yourself and say that the creator of everything made this
Speaker 6: set of perfect and righteous commands for his people. And
Speaker 6: then you know, a couple thousand years in decided to
Speaker 6: flip the script, give this new this new set of
Speaker 6: stuff to one guy, and suddenly, like we can we
Speaker 6: can live a totally different way now than we did before.
Speaker 6: And it never sat never sat well with me once
Speaker 6: I realized, right, and now you can look at there's
Speaker 6: I don't mean to be a whatever of Paul versus
Speaker 6: Yeshue a type of guy, but there is a lot
Speaker 6: of have you seen the contradictions about have you wat
Speaker 6: There's a website called like Voice of Jesus dot org
Speaker 6: that I'm looking at right now, but it's.
Speaker 7: Where he talks about seeing Jesus in the wilderness.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And there's there's dozens of of scriptures where like
Speaker 6: what Paul says versus what Jesus says, And there's absolutely
Speaker 6: dozens of them that seem to directly contradict, which you know,
Speaker 6: could you say that Paul was false? Like does does
Speaker 6: Paul pass that Deuteronomy thirteen tests of a false prophet?
Speaker 6: Like to me, I would say, and I've asked people before,
Speaker 6: like does does Paul change the gospel for you? Like
Speaker 6: like when Christ was here and shared his version of
Speaker 6: the gospel, and then sixty years after he died, one
Speaker 6: man comes along and says he met Ishua in the
Speaker 6: desert and he gave him his gospel. Now like Paul
Speaker 6: calls it his gospel, Like does that really make sense
Speaker 6: that issue would tell his disciples go out now and
Speaker 6: preach this and baptize people in what I have taught you.
Speaker 6: But then suddenly there's a new guy that comes along
Speaker 6: and says like I am the the Apostle of the
Speaker 6: Gentiles and the thirteenth Apostle, and like I'm you know,
Speaker 6: I'm a teacher, and I'm all these things, but has
Speaker 6: a kind of a different like Jesus was the end
Speaker 6: of the law and everything, Like I can I can
Speaker 6: kind of share with you a couple of them if
Speaker 6: you if you are okay with it, or I don't
Speaker 6: have to if you're not.
Speaker 5: No, it's it's you're you're the guest. I'm not gonna
Speaker 5: if if you're passionate about something, you should share it.
Speaker 5: And again let the listeners decide for themselves.
Speaker 6: Yeah. So like for so interfusions one, it says in
Speaker 6: him we have redemption through the blood the forgiveness of
Speaker 6: our trespass as according to the riches of his grace.
Speaker 6: In Romans four, he says, who was put to death
Speaker 6: for our trespasses and raised for our justification? And then
Speaker 6: Yesua says in Matthew six, for if you forgive men
Speaker 6: their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But
Speaker 6: if you don't, do not forgive men. So there's a
Speaker 6: contradiction a little bit by like, we are, you know,
Speaker 6: saved totally, forgiven, totally by the blood of Christ. And
Speaker 6: then yes, she was saying, you know, we're forgiven if
Speaker 6: we forgive Romans three, he says, they are justified by
Speaker 6: His grace as a gift through the redemption which is
Speaker 6: in Christ. Jesus, for we hold that a man is
Speaker 6: justified by faith apart from works of the law. And
Speaker 6: in Romans five, he says, since therefore we are now
Speaker 6: justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved
Speaker 6: by him from the wrath of God. And Jesus says
Speaker 6: in Matthew twelve, for by your words you will be justified,
Speaker 6: and your words will be by your words you will
Speaker 6: be condemned. Right there was I don't know. The list
Speaker 6: kind of goes on and on, and it's you know,
Speaker 6: Jesus says, like freely you were given, so freely give
Speaker 6: like and Paul talks about how you know, he says,
Speaker 6: let the elders who rule be considered worthy of double honor,
Speaker 6: especially those who labor in preaching and teaching. For the
Speaker 6: scripture says, you should now muzzle an ox when it's
Speaker 6: treading out the grain, and the laborer deserves his wages.
Speaker 6: He says, if we are sown, if we have sown
Speaker 6: spiritual good among you, This is First Corinthians nine. Is
Speaker 6: it too much that we reap your material benefits? If
Speaker 6: others share this rightful claim upon you? Do we not
Speaker 6: still more? And Jesus says, and preach as you go, saying,
Speaker 6: the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Heal the sick,
Speaker 6: raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons. You
Speaker 6: received without paying, now give without pay. And yeah, there's
Speaker 6: just I mean, we could talk about this all day,
Speaker 6: but you can find that stuff pretty easily. You can
Speaker 6: just type in Jesus versus Paul. And it is a
Speaker 6: little bit disturbing to see that there are so many
Speaker 6: things that appear to be contradictory. People try to try
Speaker 6: to sort of blend those things together and say, like, no, see,
Speaker 6: Paul did keep the law, he kept the feasts and stuff,
Speaker 6: and it does say things like that, But then immediately
Speaker 6: they want to turn around and say what Paul says,
Speaker 6: you don't have to do this, and and that was
Speaker 6: that's a tough thing for me to reconcile. So, like
Speaker 6: I say, I always just if there appears to be
Speaker 6: a contradiction, I'm not going to say Paul belongs or
Speaker 6: doesn't belong or you know, whoever decided to put those
Speaker 6: books in scripture. How to like if you actually think
Speaker 6: about is flat earth to salvation issue? Maybe not. We
Speaker 6: talk about how it brings certain people to know to
Speaker 6: know the Father and to know Christ, and but could
Speaker 6: this be like what if what if Paul came with
Speaker 6: this new gospel and it leads people away from keeping
Speaker 6: the commandments, which are the law is defined as righteousness
Speaker 6: and sin in I think first John three four says
Speaker 6: for sin is the transgression of the law. And in
Speaker 6: the Greek you look at the etymology, the word law
Speaker 6: is Torah.
Speaker 7: Your first five bars of the Bible.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so if sin is breaking the Torah, then how
Speaker 6: can we say that we can do all those things
Speaker 6: that we you know, want to reject for the sake
Speaker 6: of the taste of the food or the traditions of men.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, And and again there's there's arguments on both sides.
Speaker 5: What's interesting to me. One of the reasons that I
Speaker 5: went to I decided to try seminary because I figured
Speaker 5: I could go there and I would get definitive answers
Speaker 5: on our questions, and every single professor's got different ideals.
Speaker 5: One professor will will strictly say Yahweh and Yeshua right
Speaker 5: won't even say God or Jesus. And it's just amazing
Speaker 5: to me. And I wrote that in my paper last week.
Speaker 5: I said, you could literally show one verse to one
Speaker 5: hundred people and you're going to get fifty different meanings.
Speaker 5: And it's the same whether it's letters to the Ephesians Galatians.
Speaker 5: Even Peter says that, you know, he claims that Paul's
Speaker 5: writings are authoritative scripture, but you know, some things we
Speaker 5: struggle with and I don't want to ever come across
Speaker 5: the saying is like, that's not important, because to me,
Speaker 5: I do have some certain issues that if I hear
Speaker 5: in church, I won't go back, because I think we've
Speaker 5: come to a point that so many pastors are afraid
Speaker 5: to preach what they believe because of numbers, because of business,
Speaker 5: and I never want to be that guy, and I
Speaker 5: already have accepted that. When I get behind the pulpit
Speaker 5: and have a congregation in front of me, I have
Speaker 5: to speak with conviction, no matter what.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 7: You can't be a phony.
Speaker 5: You've got to be You have to rebuke when you
Speaker 5: see something that is out of sorts, right, rebuke, and
Speaker 5: then if they repent, you accept the repentance came over.
Speaker 5: And that's what you really have to break down. You
Speaker 5: have to read this for yourself. Don't let somebody tell
Speaker 5: you what this verse means. You need to sit down
Speaker 5: and read it for yourself. And you know there's a
Speaker 5: lot of divisive topics out there right now, whether it's
Speaker 5: the little season, Once Saved, always Saved is a hot
Speaker 5: topic and things of that nature, and people will point
Speaker 5: out YouTube videos or my preacher said, but it's important
Speaker 5: that you sit down, read it for yourself and discern
Speaker 5: for yourself what that means to you. But the most
Speaker 5: important thing is to understand is that Christ, you show
Speaker 5: a died for our sins. He died for He was
Speaker 5: dead for three days, which people missed. The whole story
Speaker 5: of Lazarus. He waited four days before he resurrected him
Speaker 5: just to prove say, you know, in the next month
Speaker 5: or so, this is going to happen to me. Don't
Speaker 5: go in there, Jesus, it's been dead for four days.
Speaker 5: I can imagine. Well, you know, so when he rose
Speaker 5: Lazarus from the dead, it wasn't it was something that
Speaker 5: already happened. I guess it was almost something like precedents
Speaker 5: in a court case, you know, that happened. So that's
Speaker 5: why Jesus really, that's why he did that with Lazarus
Speaker 5: before he rose from the dead.
Speaker 7: And again, Lazarus was dead with four days. Jesus was
Speaker 7: dead for three days. And that is really.
Speaker 5: What the most part and part of the most important
Speaker 5: part of the Bible is is knowing that we are flawed.
Speaker 5: From Adam sixty five hundred years ago to George Chobs
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty five, right, And that is the one
Speaker 5: thing that gives us salvation, right, is we are flawed.
Speaker 5: I will send fifty times before the end of this podcast. Right,
Speaker 5: if you're going by the book, and that's through the
Speaker 5: grace of God and the blood of Jesus, we are saved.
Speaker 5: And it's up to everybody. I hope you take the time,
Speaker 5: like people email me all the time. I can tell
Speaker 5: that you're sitting there, you know, listen to that guy.
Speaker 5: You don't agree, but you give him.
Speaker 7: Of course, I don't agree with my wife all the time.
Speaker 7: I don't agree with many of the don't tell her.
Speaker 5: I said that, by the way, many of the professors
Speaker 5: I've had, But you still listen. That's how you gain wisdom.
Speaker 5: Maybe you realize that you were wrong about something and
Speaker 5: you change your belief on it. And again, we have
Speaker 5: our convictions that were very strong on and you know it,
Speaker 5: you know, but I listened to things that make sense.
Speaker 5: I will listen to and research for myself. And you know,
Speaker 5: when I came across this messianic Jewish movement, I guess
Speaker 5: you would call it. I guess it really kicked off
Speaker 5: really big around COVID and you started seeing people, why
Speaker 5: is all there was there a bunch of cars there.
Speaker 7: It's Saturday, it's not a Catholic church, it's not ld Yes,
Speaker 7: what's going on?
Speaker 5: And you start to see the people like you mentioned
Speaker 5: the verse earlier, you know, And that's what I wanted
Speaker 5: to touch on really quick, and I'll get back to you.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry I've been rambling, But the ten commandments. Right,
Speaker 5: we say that all the time. I'm the Lord, your
Speaker 5: guide in George. Huh, yeah, exactly right. Honor your father
Speaker 5: and mother, don't kill, don't commit a daughtry, don't steal,
Speaker 5: don't bear fault, false witness, on and on, remember to
Speaker 5: keep the Lord's day.
Speaker 7: And you know that is something that.
Speaker 6: So the Sabbath, the fourth commandment, it's the it says
Speaker 6: remember to keep the Sabbath, because it sounds to me
Speaker 6: like he knew that we were gonna forget about it,
Speaker 6: and it, uh, it's got the most details on how
Speaker 6: to do it right. It's like it's the longest of
Speaker 6: the commandments and it's the one that doesn't matter anymore.
Speaker 6: Like it doesn't matter like we we've gone to many
Speaker 6: different churches over the years, and and the thing was,
Speaker 6: you know, Sunday brunch after church. Yeah, everybody meets up
Speaker 6: for brunch at the hotel, globby, restaurant or whatever. And
Speaker 6: now we see that we decided we wanted to try
Speaker 6: to keep the Sabbath. And I mean, we can argue
Speaker 6: about calendar all day long, too, not argue, but talk
Speaker 6: about but it's like the seventh Day is one of
Speaker 6: those things that people have been keeping. Certain groups have
Speaker 6: been keeping the commandments probably since the time of when
Speaker 6: Christ walked right, and we know he kept them perfectly,
Speaker 6: So whatever you want to say. However, many days in
Speaker 6: the month, how many days in the year, there's still
Speaker 6: day one through seven start over. So has the seventh
Speaker 6: day been lost? I don't know, Maybe maybe not, but
Speaker 6: I would say we would agree that the seventh day
Speaker 6: is Saturday, right, Sunday is the first day. Seventh day
Speaker 6: is Saturday. So we said, let's try to keep the Sabbath. Well,
Speaker 6: I had to work like every other Saturday, so I
Speaker 6: sort of approached my employer at that telecom business and
Speaker 6: I said, I, you know, we kind of would like
Speaker 6: to start following the Sabbath for our faith, and I
Speaker 6: want to see if there was some way I could
Speaker 6: get a religious exemption from this schedule or something. And
Speaker 6: it was just a flat flat out, like not a
Speaker 6: flat out no, but here's some forms and you can
Speaker 6: try to get them to bend the rules. Whether there's
Speaker 6: like fifteen thousand employees in the company, right, so it's
Speaker 6: not happening, basically, is what I got. So I filled
Speaker 6: out all these forms, submitted them, and probably the day
Speaker 6: after I submitted them, we got an email saying, tell sorry,
Speaker 6: I just out said it. But the telecommunication business has
Speaker 6: has decided to open up some different scheduling options for
Speaker 6: the employees. And there was five different options, I think,
Speaker 6: and it was everything from split shift through the week
Speaker 6: to like there was only one schedule that it didn't
Speaker 6: have any sad days and you had to work one
Speaker 6: Sunday per month. And so obviously I was like, wow,
Speaker 6: this is crazy that that just happened. Right at the time,
Speaker 6: it was so unlikely to ever happen, right, but it happened.
Speaker 6: I chose that one schedule Sunday ended up that shift
Speaker 6: that I ended up picking. Like Sunday was basically in
Speaker 6: this town I lived in, like clean your truck out
Speaker 6: and like try to find stuff to do. It was
Speaker 6: the easiest, It was the easiest shift. And nobody wanted
Speaker 6: to work Sunday. Everybody had this thing about work and Sundays.
Speaker 6: And I was like, I, whatever, this is great for
Speaker 6: me because I wanted to follow the Sabbath and you
Speaker 6: made away so and.
Speaker 7: How many years you've been doing that?
Speaker 6: Well up until I did that for six years until
Speaker 6: I lost my job because I wouldn't do the COVID testing.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't get the shop for sure. But I actually
Speaker 6: went one step further and I wouldn't even do their
Speaker 6: three times weekly tests that they wanted us to perform.
Speaker 6: I said, I'm not shoving anything up my nose. We
Speaker 6: did research and with my you know, previous lymphoma stuff,
Speaker 6: there was some a there was something that they the
Speaker 6: actual chemical is kind of slipping my mind, but it
Speaker 6: was saying that it was something that they sterilized the
Speaker 6: Q tips with that lymphoma was a direct side effect
Speaker 6: of whatever was on that queue tip. And so I
Speaker 6: said to my doctor, I said I need a medical
Speaker 6: exemption to not have to do this testing. And he said, Travis,
Speaker 6: they won't let us give you an exemption. I said,
Speaker 6: who's they? He said, the College of Physicians. They won't
Speaker 6: let us give medical exemptions for these tests. And I said, well,
Speaker 6: I guess that's it then, And so that was that.
Speaker 6: Right at that time, we decided we had already been
Speaker 6: thinking about property, but we actually sold our house to
Speaker 6: my wife's brother in town, and we bought, you know,
Speaker 6: four acres south of town and got some sheep and
Speaker 6: got some homestead going and got out of debt, and yeah,
Speaker 6: we've just been working at that for the last four years,
Speaker 6: trying to grow as much food as we can. We
Speaker 6: live pretty close to a little farming community where they
Speaker 6: have markets and you can find all kinds of farmers
Speaker 6: that are constantly looking to get rid of their unsprayed
Speaker 6: cherries and peaches and all these things that come up
Speaker 6: every year. It's a real blessing. But yeah, so definitely
Speaker 6: worked out for the best. And now we kind of
Speaker 6: live in the middle of nowhere and there's a rock
Speaker 6: quarry across the highway and through moving out here, I
Speaker 6: had bought an excavator and we kind of set up
Speaker 6: our whole property. And once that was all done, I
Speaker 6: had a couple hundred hours on the things. So I
Speaker 6: walked across the street there and got a job basically
Speaker 6: mining out these big landscape blocks for walls. And I've
Speaker 6: been there for four years now.
Speaker 7: So well done.
Speaker 5: And you know, almost everybody who I've spoken to who
Speaker 5: stood up against the COVID vaccines, well was rewarded and
Speaker 5: their life has been just blessed because of that. And
Speaker 5: what to you, what is COVID accountability like or you
Speaker 5: just pass.
Speaker 6: That COVID accountability. Yeah, man, we are so far from past.
Speaker 6: It's I would say that we are like there's a
Speaker 6: small percentage of people that didn't take the shots, and
Speaker 6: then there's an even smaller percentage of people that are
Speaker 6: still kind of dwelling on it, and we're like, even
Speaker 6: the smaller percentage of people that I don't know, we
Speaker 6: we keep, we try to keep. It's It sounds kind
Speaker 6: of awful, but I think it's a lot more nefarious
Speaker 6: than what some people think, right, I think.
Speaker 7: Oh, I agree one hundred percent.
Speaker 6: I we actually are kind of I know you've said before,
Speaker 6: like you don't think it's the mark of the Beast
Speaker 6: and all this stuff for certain and reasons. But I'm
Speaker 6: of the personal belief that there's a chance that it
Speaker 6: may be part of that. We know it's part of
Speaker 6: the system, but you know, I don't think that taking
Speaker 6: the market the beast means that you're bowing down literally
Speaker 6: and worshiping the beast. Like to worship the beast is
Speaker 6: to participate and take part in all the things that
Speaker 6: he comes up with, right, And I definitely think this
Speaker 6: COVID shot was one of those things we saw. There's
Speaker 6: places even this small town. You couldn't you couldn't buy stuff,
Speaker 6: certain places, you couldn't go certain places, just like anywhere
Speaker 6: in the whole world. And I don't know if you
Speaker 6: ever saw the like as a as a human, we've
Speaker 6: got DNA, and our DNA has this like double helix, right,
Speaker 6: it's like that course, your helix, And in those two
Speaker 6: strands of DNA, there's seventy two thousand genes right supposedly,
Speaker 6: so seventy two thousand and two in a helix. That's
Speaker 6: one hundred and forty four thousand, right, which is an
Speaker 6: interesting number. So when people take the mRNA shot, they
Speaker 6: actually receive This is all things that we've read and
Speaker 6: things that we've heard from, you know, whether it was
Speaker 6: Malone or McCullough or all these people that take it
Speaker 6: or leave it. We usually leave it. But the mRNA
Speaker 6: adds a third helix to the human DNA, which is
Speaker 6: crazy to think about. But your DNA is the that's
Speaker 6: the Father's signature on your existence. Basically you were created
Speaker 6: with this DNA and when that third helix is added,
Speaker 6: another seventy two thousand genes two hundred and sixteen thousand, right, George,
Speaker 6: you probably well, actually I've heard you talk about two
Speaker 6: hundred and sixteen thousand. It's six hundred times sixty six.
Speaker 6: It's there's so many We know how important the numeric
Speaker 6: values and actual physical numbers are to those following the
Speaker 6: beast system, right, So just looking at every every part
Speaker 6: of that, like how many people actually took that shot
Speaker 6: for a good reason, Like well, I had to go
Speaker 6: visit my mom or my dad who was in the
Speaker 6: hospital or whatever. I get it. Like it's a hard
Speaker 6: decision to make. I told my parents, if you end
Speaker 6: up in the hospital and I need to get a shot,
Speaker 6: then I'm sorry, I'll see you on the other side.
Speaker 6: Like yeah, and that sounds cold, but it's a decision
Speaker 6: that we made. And we actually try not to do
Speaker 6: a lot of business or have even people that have
Speaker 6: had the shot over because it's not only because of
Speaker 6: like the potential of maybe the shedding and the negative
Speaker 6: side effects. We got to you know, she's a child now,
Speaker 6: she's but she's like she's six years old. We're trying
Speaker 6: to protect her from anything that we think could be
Speaker 6: harmful to her. Right, I would expect that from any
Speaker 6: parent that wants the best for their child. We don't
Speaker 6: completely shelter ourselves from the public, but we we try
Speaker 6: to keep away as much as we can, and realistically, like,
Speaker 6: how many deep conversations have you had with people that
Speaker 6: have had that shot since it happened? Like those people
Speaker 6: and I shouldn't talk about it quite like that because
Speaker 6: I know there's people who listen to your podcasts and
Speaker 6: people that are whatever that have taken the shot. But
Speaker 6: they had to come to this time in their decision
Speaker 6: where they sat down in a chair and took that,
Speaker 6: Like that is a major decision. It's different than some
Speaker 6: we've all taken yellow fever or whatever, so we can
Speaker 6: go on our African missions trip or whatever it is,
Speaker 6: but it's like this one was different. It was like
Speaker 6: it was almost like there was spiritual blinders for the
Speaker 6: people that couldn't see it or wouldn't see it, and
Speaker 6: for the other people that saw it. It's like now
Speaker 6: those people like we're kind of you can talk about
Speaker 6: anything with those people because Georgia, I don't even know you,
Speaker 6: and I will tell you anything about anything because it's
Speaker 6: it's sort of how you can talk to those people.
Speaker 6: If I feel like, if those people were okay with
Speaker 6: that shot, then the conversation's over before it started, like
Speaker 6: they just don't hear.
Speaker 5: It's how things happen in life. Because this afternoon I
Speaker 5: was watching it was a pre recorded class, but I
Speaker 5: had to watch this video and he was talking about
Speaker 5: how the difference is fellowshipping with people who were saved
Speaker 5: and fellowshipping with people who are not saved, were of
Speaker 5: the secular world, and just the different levels of commonalities
Speaker 5: that you have just on a spiritual basis. And I've
Speaker 5: noticed that within certainly the last five years, and there
Speaker 5: is you know there and again there was people who
Speaker 5: who unfortunately took the jab and thank god, you know,
Speaker 5: they're healthy and they're doing okay. I'm sure they had
Speaker 5: to have some what do you call those shots that
Speaker 5: aren't the placebos right, et cetera. But it wasn't at
Speaker 5: a minimum, it was a test. I do believe that
Speaker 5: it was to see how far they could push us
Speaker 5: and when the time comes when they dropped the hammer.
Speaker 5: I think what we saw five years ago is maybe
Speaker 5: ten percent of the pressure that they're going to apply
Speaker 5: on us.
Speaker 7: And that's why I already wrote a letter. Maybe I'll
Speaker 7: read it in a week or two.
Speaker 5: I wrote a letter to the senators, the state representatives,
Speaker 5: our governor, and the sheriff and the head of the
Speaker 5: police force that I'm going to send certified mail to
Speaker 5: each of them the day I opened my church here
Speaker 5: that basically says that I will never close my church.
Speaker 5: It's a three page letter, and I cite a lot
Speaker 5: of things through twenty twenty and I cite about twenty
Speaker 5: five Bible verses, and I said, this isn't a threat,
Speaker 5: this is a welcome. Number One, I want you to
Speaker 5: come to my church, but I also want you to
Speaker 5: know that I recognize God's law before I recognize man's law.
Speaker 5: I wanted like to set a baseline and be just
Speaker 5: upfront with these people that don't show up to my
Speaker 5: church and tell me to close because it's dangerous, there's
Speaker 5: a flu, there's a riot, there's this or that. It's
Speaker 5: you know, we saw churches get closed. Abortion clinics stayed open,
Speaker 5: the dispensary stayed open.
Speaker 6: Ye.
Speaker 7: You know, it's just shame on all of us for
Speaker 7: allowing that to happen.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's for sure. But you know, in the end,
Speaker 6: it's like the world will be deceived by her cup
Speaker 6: of sorcery, which we.
Speaker 7: Know is fararmckah, amen, brother, So we stay.
Speaker 6: Away from all that. We had people we literally hadn't
Speaker 6: talked to for years that came to us and said,
Speaker 6: is it true that you didn't vaccinate your daughter? And
Speaker 6: I was like, are you kidding me? Right now? Like
Speaker 6: that's the conversation you want to have after we haven't
Speaker 6: talked for nine years, You want to call me out
Speaker 6: for not jabbing my daughter with fifty two vaccines in
Speaker 6: her first two years.
Speaker 7: Like, I don't know.
Speaker 6: It's crazy how how different people can be on such
Speaker 6: vastly different paths, isn't it.
Speaker 7: It's really interesting, it truly is.
Speaker 5: I've said before my other podcast, if you stood outside
Speaker 5: of the walmart and asked one hundred people how many
Speaker 5: buildings fell in New York City on September eleventh, two
Speaker 5: thousand and one, ninety four of them would say two, right, six,
Speaker 5: But you know, maybe five or six would say, oh, well,
Speaker 5: at least they'd.
Speaker 7: Be aware of at least seven, right, building seven? Right?
Speaker 5: But that's far and few between. They just know what
Speaker 5: they're told, because that's that's they want to be your gatekeepers.
Speaker 5: We only have about ten or fifteen minutes left, could
Speaker 5: you no, no, no, this has been a great conversation,
Speaker 5: and this is that's that's that's awesome we've had. That's
Speaker 5: a meaningful conversation. That's first and foremost. But could you
Speaker 5: get me your what you would consider your six silver bullets.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so personally, I would say the moonlight is an
Speaker 6: interesting one. It's like, I'm sure lots of people know
Speaker 6: about the inverse square law of light, but basically says
Speaker 6: that every time you have the distance to a light source,
Speaker 6: it gets four times brighter. So you've all seen the
Speaker 6: pictures of NASA and their spacemen on the moon, right,
Speaker 6: and it's this dark, dreary place. But it's like you
Speaker 6: can literally read a book by the moonlight on the
Speaker 6: bright nights.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 6: So if it's two hundred and thirty eight thousand miles away,
Speaker 6: it should be sixty four billion lumens or something by
Speaker 6: the time you get to it. You wouldn't be able
Speaker 6: to take a picture of somebody on it, right, So
Speaker 6: that's that seems like a no brainer. The numerology and
Speaker 6: symbology like the Satanic Masonic all the six six sixes
Speaker 6: and then every threes. Oh I kind of missed you there.
Speaker 7: You cut out the ninety threes. That's all very big number.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and sixty six six hundred miles per hour, and
Speaker 6: you know six sixty six point six degrees or twenty
Speaker 6: three point four degrees off axis, which is sixty six
Speaker 6: point six when you subtract that from the ninety and
Speaker 6: it just the list goes on like it's a an
Speaker 6: arm long list of sixty six sixes alone, right, Nasa itself,
Speaker 6: like when the woman was beguiled in the garden, it's
Speaker 6: like that. The word in the Hebrew is nasa an
Speaker 6: asa for beguiled. It's like deceit right in their title.
Speaker 6: And then you see it's like the serpent's tongue on
Speaker 6: their logo. It's there. It couldn't even be more in
Speaker 6: your face. Right, So that's probably the third one, the
Speaker 6: blatant lack of curvature that you can buy a nine
Speaker 6: hundred dollars camera and improve nowadays. I'm sure you listen
Speaker 6: to us and wits it or whatever, and he talks
Speaker 6: about the radius of Earth is three nine hundred and
Speaker 6: fifty nine miles, which just happens to be the exact
Speaker 6: number that the human eye can resolve the like the
Speaker 6: angular resolution of your eyes. So where you would physically
Speaker 6: in the sixteen hundreds see a ship travel over the horizon,
Speaker 6: that distance that the ship disappears is the angular resolution
Speaker 6: sort of of your eye. And the exact number of
Speaker 6: what the Earth would have to be to match up
Speaker 6: with that is three nine hundred and fifty nine miles.
Speaker 6: So they kind of reverse engineer the math to make
Speaker 6: the numbers right. But now we can buy telescopes and
Speaker 6: spotting scopes and cameras and things that clearly prove that wrong.
Speaker 6: There's people from Cress that are just not too far
Speaker 6: from us. A few guys that have shot laser beams
Speaker 6: to mirror reflections across Cootney Lake and it's like they're
Speaker 6: whatever twenty miles apart or something, and one guy's thirteen
Speaker 6: feet off the water and the mirrors five feet off
Speaker 6: the water on the other side, and it's like you
Speaker 6: can physically see with the human eye this green laser
Speaker 6: like where it should be behind five hundred feet of curvature. Right,
Speaker 6: So no curvature is for the fact that there's no
Speaker 6: container holding our atmosphere, and space just happens to be
Speaker 6: the strongest vacuum. It should just suck the atmosphere right
Speaker 6: off our planet, right, and we should be in space,
Speaker 6: as you know, as soon as you blink your eye.
Speaker 6: But I think that's like the second law thermodynamics says,
Speaker 6: to have two different pressures, there has to be a container,
Speaker 6: and we know that there is a container in the firmament,
Speaker 6: right absolutely. And then you know, they talked about gravity
Speaker 6: and and how it's like mass attracting mass, and I
Speaker 6: know this is all the stuff that this is probably
Speaker 6: why you're shutting down the podcast because it's like two
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty episodes of people saying the same things
Speaker 6: over and over.
Speaker 5: But the facts are the facts, right absolutely, and it's
Speaker 5: that that is the case, and that's why the other
Speaker 5: conversations is important as well. Right, we've reinforced the facts,
Speaker 5: and then you kind of hear everybody's walk through life,
Speaker 5: which is very.
Speaker 7: Interesting to me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the gravity is like, you know, we were held
Speaker 6: down to the Earth and all this stuff, and then
Speaker 6: now they say that it's not mass attracting mass now
Speaker 6: it's the bending and warping of space time, right Yeah.
Speaker 6: And I couldn't believe it when I heard this story
Speaker 6: about they have this great big telescope and somewhere in
Speaker 6: the desert and they saw two atoms or something like
Speaker 6: so so many light years away between two black holes
Speaker 6: and they could see, you know, some correlation between them
Speaker 6: where it's like nice, nice story, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And now they're now they're pushing this what is
Speaker 5: it seven mile alien ufo that's been spotted that that
Speaker 5: could be headed our way, and it's just like, I wonder, what,
Speaker 5: you know, if I heard that six or seven years ago,
Speaker 5: what I would have thought, How would I even care then?
Speaker 5: Or because you see people in the comments on like Twitter,
Speaker 5: and you're just like, my goodness, man, you've watched.
Speaker 6: Too many all these little you know, silver bullets and stuff.
Speaker 6: They're important to remember, and especially the ones that the
Speaker 6: you know, there's still people out there I think that
Speaker 6: can benefit from hearing this particular story of flat earth.
Speaker 6: But it they're all just also side not distractions. I
Speaker 6: think the like to realize where we are is very
Speaker 6: important and to sit there and be in denial that
Speaker 6: you haven't been lied to about that is like I know,
Speaker 6: that's part of the thing about certain people that just
Speaker 6: won't hear what you have to say. If you're a truther.
Speaker 6: Right now, I think truther is a swear word, so
Speaker 6: they'll flag you if you're a truther. But whatever, I'm
Speaker 6: sure I'm flagged a million times over.
Speaker 7: I don't know, oh for sure.
Speaker 5: You know, we go from flat Earth to Hebrew cosmology
Speaker 5: to true Earth, and then from conspiracy theorist to truther
Speaker 5: or We're always trying to evolve and keep one step
Speaker 5: ahead of the people trying to keep us down. By
Speaker 5: the way, I did learn something the other day and
Speaker 5: I meant to mention it now's a good time. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I do ham radio, amateur radio, and I came across
Speaker 5: the other day that the longest and this is line
Speaker 5: of sight radio transmission, meaning that antenna A has to
Speaker 5: be able to see antenna be for it to work right,
Speaker 5: two hundred and twenty miles across the red seat, two
Speaker 5: hundred and twenty miles, and I know somewhere I did.
Speaker 5: I don't have it in front of me the notes,
Speaker 5: but it's like physically impossible with with that the curvature calculator.
Speaker 6: Right, it's the ion sphere, George, don't you know, but
Speaker 6: that that theory of the radio signals bouncing off the
Speaker 6: iona sphere. They all the statistics that you know about
Speaker 6: the ionosphere were were they came up with those after
Speaker 6: the radio transmissions were received there. We need to figure
Speaker 6: out a story.
Speaker 7: Now, we have to find this work exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And by the way, I did find it a twenty
Speaker 5: foot tall because both antennas were twenty feet cannot be
Speaker 5: seen from two hundred and twenty miles away due to
Speaker 5: the Earth's curvature. It would be hidden behind over thirty
Speaker 5: two thousand feet of drop. Yeah, that's six miles of drop.
Speaker 6: I heard Austin Witzen on you know, Jeremiah Sciba the
Speaker 6: News Nation as Rob Sciba's son.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: He They were doing some I don't know, they were
Speaker 6: questioning certain things, and I think Austin said a radio
Speaker 6: transmission of ninety five nagahertz or something was received like
Speaker 6: at eight hundred and thirty miles away or something like that. Like,
Speaker 6: it's just just totally impossible. It's insane.
Speaker 8: It sure is.
Speaker 7: We're down to like the last three minutes.
Speaker 5: So if there was any other bullet points or something
Speaker 5: that you wanted to share with us, and that'd be
Speaker 5: a great time.
Speaker 6: Oh, George. I one thing that kind of bugs me
Speaker 6: lately is I've got to I think two more things
Speaker 6: on my checklist here that I haven't mentioned. So the
Speaker 6: food thing we mentioned, like you know, whether they're vaccinating
Speaker 6: cattle or chickens or fish or whatever with mRNA stuff, Like,
Speaker 6: I think it's important that people are diligent about what
Speaker 6: they're eating. Now. It's like we're not supposed to to
Speaker 6: crave the delicacies of the kings, right like we we
Speaker 6: gotta be diligent on that stuff, which I know you
Speaker 6: guys are and and the like. Have you have you
Speaker 6: heard about Cinemix It was a company. I think it
Speaker 6: goes under the medical thing. I think it's h GK
Speaker 6: two ninety three. It could be around two eighty nine
Speaker 6: or two ninety three, but it's the same abortal aborted
Speaker 6: fetal tissue from like the fetus kidney cells, and they
Speaker 6: use it in foods and drinks for like an anti bitterant,
Speaker 6: which is insane, But it is disguised on the ingredient
Speaker 6: list under natural flavor, and it can be organic natural
Speaker 6: flavor too. So when you start looking at ingredients and
Speaker 6: things that you buy in the grocery store, it like
Speaker 6: most of the things that have natural flavor. They're also
Speaker 6: accompanied by a paragraph of other ingredients that you're like,
Speaker 6: obviously I shouldn't be eating this, but just for those
Speaker 6: people that are still buying ritos and Coca cola and
Speaker 6: and all those things, like we gotta we gotta spend
Speaker 6: the time if it matters to you and and look
Speaker 6: into this stuff because it's kinda like still falls under
Speaker 6: the commandments, like He puts these things out for us,
Speaker 6: and he gives us this wisdom so that we can
Speaker 6: have blessings and life, like the other option is death
Speaker 6: and curses. So if you can see that something is
Speaker 6: poison and it's not good for you, whether it's you
Speaker 6: feeding your kid tarturezine or things with you know, citric acid,
Speaker 6: look up how they make that stuff, or a Lura red,
Speaker 6: FCF yellow and sunset yellow and whatever. All these food
Speaker 6: colorings and stuff. It's all super poisonous. So I don't know,
Speaker 6: I would say that that's really important.
Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks for that.
Speaker 5: By the way, I wasn't aware of cinemix. I'm not
Speaker 5: sure I've ever come across it. I have a little
Speaker 5: catalog here of everything I've covered over the years, and
Speaker 5: there's no this is this is Iowa opening. So this
Speaker 5: will be on a future fact on our episode in
Speaker 5: the very near future, and.
Speaker 6: You'll find like stuff's changed, right, they're obviously hiding things
Speaker 6: if you google that right now, it's much much different than.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, there's twenty five fact checks on it already.
Speaker 5: But there was a bill in twenty twelve by the
Speaker 5: Oklahoma legislature, proposed by Ralph Shorty, that would have prohibited,
Speaker 5: pardon me, the manufacture or sale of food or products
Speaker 5: linked to this cine mix, which is this aborted fetuses.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so thanks for that. All the elites that want
Speaker 6: to feed us children and we personally and I think
Speaker 6: there's a lot of people out there but are pretty
Speaker 6: convicted about and actually don't take part at all in
Speaker 6: using any AI stuff. I know, it's really hard to
Speaker 6: avoid it now, and there's people whether you talk to
Speaker 6: them from church or whatever, and it's like, well, this
Speaker 6: is here now, just so we're going to learn how
Speaker 6: to utilize it and use it for good and stuff.
Speaker 6: And I think there's too many stories about people that
Speaker 6: have asked AI all these things, and it's really it
Speaker 6: seems like it's the demon realm to us, like it.
Speaker 6: It constantly asks questions like is there anything I can
Speaker 6: help you? With and it's basically asking for your permission
Speaker 6: in your life to intercede this information. And you know,
Speaker 6: it's lots of people say it's totally man made and
Speaker 6: it's just gathering other information off the Internet and stuff,
Speaker 6: and it's like it it really to us, seems like
Speaker 6: fallen angel technology.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you're not the first person to mention that,
Speaker 5: and it is something to ponder because if you look
Speaker 5: at the people behind it, like Peter Thiel, not a
Speaker 5: good guy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, not a good guy.
Speaker 5: And you know, some people argue, you know, well, we're
Speaker 5: using it as a tool against Satan, using his own
Speaker 5: tool from his tool box.
Speaker 7: But you do have to if you do use it,
Speaker 7: I think you have.
Speaker 5: To treat it as a tool and be very careful
Speaker 5: not to engage in a conversation in it like that
Speaker 5: to me is kind of that's that is strange to me.
Speaker 6: You can google something and it's always like the first
Speaker 6: thing that comes up is the AI overview of what
Speaker 6: and maybe just gathering information. My wife just scrolls past that.
Speaker 6: She's like, I'll look for five more minutes to find
Speaker 6: what I need before I read that.
Speaker 7: That's interesting.
Speaker 6: So yeah, it's just a I mean it it may
Speaker 6: not matter to some people, and I think that the
Speaker 6: people that it does matter to or maybe needed to
Speaker 6: hear that there's other people out there that feel the
Speaker 6: same way. Right, So yeah, sometimes that's all it takes,
Speaker 6: Like that's it's Yeah, it's nice to know that you're
Speaker 6: not alone. And these days, like, yeah, we're few and
Speaker 6: far between with people that you meet on the street
Speaker 6: that believe the same thing you do.
Speaker 7: So absolutely they use what we have to.
Speaker 6: But I have been blessed and have met actually quite
Speaker 6: a few local people that are that are on the
Speaker 6: same page with like flat earth and COVID at least.
Speaker 6: And then I'm wide open. I'm an open book. If
Speaker 6: those two things we agree on, then I will tell
Speaker 6: you anything. And like it seems like we're friends.
Speaker 5: So well if if they're if they're down with those
Speaker 5: two things, they're going to be open to anything. So
Speaker 5: you're willing to share, right, And you can.
Speaker 6: Disagree on things, like people disagree all the time. But
Speaker 6: those people like they if I tell a friend that
Speaker 6: I've recently met that believes those two things something that
Speaker 6: matters to me, they're they're like a listener and then
Speaker 6: they have something that matters to them, and I'm a listener,
Speaker 6: and it's like we we can end up in a
Speaker 6: good in the place that we're supposed to be in
Speaker 6: the end, right, So yeah, I guess that's basically my
Speaker 6: My outlook from from here on out is like trying
Speaker 6: not to be ignorant. If you've heard these things today
Speaker 6: and you've been questioning this stuff, like no, you're not alone,
Speaker 6: and try and dig up that information while you still
Speaker 6: have access to it, because I think we're coming pretty
Speaker 6: close to the end here where you're not going to
Speaker 6: be able to access the stuff that you would have
Speaker 6: liked to.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've said that often. I have bookcases all around
Speaker 5: my room now because Mi's the opposite way. She has
Speaker 5: her kindle everywhere she goes. But I'm like, if there's
Speaker 5: something that I deem important, I buy it and I
Speaker 5: have it. I mean, I've probably one hundred and twenty
Speaker 5: books haven't read yet, but it's there if I need it,
Speaker 5: because I know there is going to be this Fahrenheit
Speaker 5: four fifty one book burning event, right and when everything's digital,
Speaker 5: they can just like Bill Cooper's be Held to Behold
Speaker 5: a Pale Horse, they eliminated chapter fifteen out of there.
Speaker 5: I have a ninety three copy that I paid quite
Speaker 5: a bit of money for but I cherish it, but
Speaker 5: I'm up against it. I have another guest coming on
Speaker 5: in about ten minutes, but I'll tell you what. This
Speaker 5: has been a tremendous conversation and again kind of just
Speaker 5: reinforcing what you said is that there are people all
Speaker 5: around the world who hear these things and like they're like, Wow,
Speaker 5: there's there's somebody else out there who believes what I believe.
Speaker 5: So tip of the cap to you for sharing everything.
Speaker 5: And I'll give you the last word, sir.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I think I'm pretty much I've lost my voice.
Speaker 6: You've let me talk the whole time, So thanks George
Speaker 6: for having me on. And yeah, if anybody has any
Speaker 6: questions or something, I mean, I might be able to
Speaker 6: point you in the direction of the path that we took.
Speaker 6: But stay away from the food, stay away from the pharma.
Speaker 6: And yeah, seek after the Father and his wisdom is
Speaker 6: in his word, and if the truth is in you,
Speaker 6: you'll walk just as he's his son walked. Right.
Speaker 5: So amen, well done, Travis. Thank you so much. Travis
Speaker 5: from British Columbia, Canada. God bless you. And your family
Speaker 5: and your discernment and sharing it with others and to
Speaker 5: all our listeners as we continue our journey down the
Speaker 5: home stretch. Thank you for all your emails. By the way,
Speaker 5: I don't know if I mentioned after that episode a
Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago, the emails filled up, and I'm
Speaker 5: trying to do my best to accommodate everyone, but I'm
Speaker 5: up on a time crunch as well, So I'll try
Speaker 5: to get back to everybody who I can. God bless
Speaker 5: each and every one of you. Remember to keep your
Speaker 5: head on a swivel, and God bless each and every
Speaker 5: one of you. And until we meet again, my friends,
Speaker 5: we will see.
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