WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:05.559 The following presentation is abol Marvis Studio's production. 2 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:29.399 When you look me on the sky, do you feel 3 00:00:29.559 --> 00:00:30.079 the poll? 4 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:33.039 The question why. 5 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:41.200 The stories told and left behind in shadows where the 6 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:42.719 truth we find? 7 00:00:45.079 --> 00:00:47.600 They built their tails. 8 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:51.359 On grafts and lights on theories. 9 00:00:51.439 --> 00:00:54.039 They stake their designed. 10 00:00:55.479 --> 00:01:03.600 Put down here on this solid the answer scream, They're 11 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:09.239 all around rising, break through. 12 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:12.760 All the lies so fast. 13 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:18.079 Welcome back shoot seekers from around the world. It's time 14 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:20.799 for another edition of the Flat Earth Files podcast. I 15 00:01:20.840 --> 00:01:23.359 hope everybody had a great weekend. As we record, it 16 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:27.280 is Saturday, August second, twenty twenty five. Beautiful day here. 17 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:29.200 Hope you all have great weather as well. Finally a 18 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:32.560 break from the heat and the pouring torrential rain that 19 00:01:32.599 --> 00:01:34.599 we've had here. It's been a beautiful day. So again 20 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:38.040 I hope everyone is blessed in doing well as we 21 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:41.040 Again again, I should say, as we begin to close 22 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:44.239 out this podcast, we have another great guest, and over 23 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:47.120 the two hundred and twenty some folks we've interviewed, we'd 24 00:01:47.159 --> 00:01:51.200 have quite a bit of folks from Canada and tonight 25 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:56.920 as well from southeastern British Columbia. Travis is joining us. Travis, 26 00:01:56.959 --> 00:02:00.760 how are you, sir, didn't get Thanks George, how are 27 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:04.159 you doing fantastic? I appreciate you taking the time on 28 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:07.280 the Saturday. I guess it's Saturday afternoon for you out 29 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:09.479 there in mountain time. Why don't you take a few 30 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:12.039 minutes and introduce yourself to the audience for us. 31 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:17.439 So, my name's Travis. I live pretty close to moyebc, 32 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:22.719 which is right probably twenty five minutes just north of 33 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:29.159 the Idaho border, so we cross right at the Kingsgate Boarder. Yeah, 34 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:35.199 this whole journey has been thanks to my wife. Basically, 35 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:40.280 she kind of woke me up in well, I guess 36 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:46.439 it was probably twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen. Was was 37 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:51.280 when she kind of pointed out the initial the initial 38 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:53.560 thing was kind of like the Pagan holidays for us, 39 00:02:54.080 --> 00:02:58.080 so which really drove a stake between us and a 40 00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:01.000 lot of family and friends and stuff to say, you 41 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:06.319 know that that Christmas is maybe rooted in something that 42 00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:09.719 we should look into, and then Easter and and all 43 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:13.680 those things. Right, so we uh, I mean it doesn't 44 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:15.199 that kind of thing. You can you can try to 45 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:17.240 talk to people. They'll either hear it or they won't 46 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:24.199 write they they you can't fault people for being traditionally minded. 47 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:28.120 We've all been raised with Christmas and and I think 48 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:31.360 for us it was just like we it was just 49 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:35.479 time to kind of break away from what was comfortable. 50 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:40.479 And when you see that, you know, when Yahweh says 51 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:43.039 that he doesn't want to be worshiped the way that 52 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:45.000 the Pagans worshiped their gods, and we can see that 53 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:47.280 a lot of the stuff that we believed and the 54 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:50.120 traditions we kept even as a church, like growing up 55 00:03:50.159 --> 00:03:52.960 going to church, there there was Easter egg hunts on Easter, 56 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:55.960 and there was there was Christmas trees in the foyer, 57 00:03:56.080 --> 00:04:00.240 and I just don't think at this point that those 58 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:03.800 things really belong in the faith, right. I mean, when 59 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:07.400 you find out that Easter comes from Ishtar or Eestora 60 00:04:07.520 --> 00:04:10.159 or like all the pagan religions are, you know, they 61 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:12.840 all have their own versions of the same thing, right, 62 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:17.240 But you know, the Tammuz or whatever, he was born 63 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:20.439 from an egg. From all these things, she was the 64 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:24.160 goddess of fertility and is totally responsible for whether it's 65 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:29.120 the pornography industry or all the corruption and sexual problems 66 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:32.279 that there are today in the world. It wasn't hard 67 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:34.720 to realize, Okay, we need to step away from this, right. 68 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:40.560 So yeah, and then kind of fast forward probably to 69 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:44.720 twenty seventeen, and I had a bit of a bike 70 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:48.600 accident and I had some injuries and I started to 71 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:55.079 feel I got this burning sensation in my stomach, and 72 00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:57.319 so I at that point I went to the doctor 73 00:04:57.399 --> 00:05:00.439 and I saw a ten different doctors. You can never 74 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:03.399 see your own doctor. There's always duty doctors on call 75 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:06.360 and all these things right, and you re explain your 76 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:08.079 problem and then they would listen to you and they 77 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:10.959 would all try to just prescribe you drugs. That's how 78 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:13.279 we know they do things right, and they admit it, 79 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:14.800 like I would have a question for them. And the 80 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:17.279 one lady told me she was a duty doctor. She said, 81 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:20.199 she said, Travis, I think you are giving us too 82 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:24.360 much credit. I google your symptoms when I read your 83 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:28.040 when I read your report from the appointment, and I 84 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:30.600 prescribe you drugs. And I don't want to hear about 85 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:34.000 more than two or three problems per visit because I 86 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:36.319 want you to book again. And I was like, wow. 87 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:39.079 She was semi retired, and she was very honest and 88 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:42.319 was in it for the money, and then I don't, 89 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:44.639 you know, I don't believe they're all like that, nurses 90 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:49.160 and doctors and stuff, but you you do see that 91 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:54.079 there is there's a financial agenda behind that, and not 92 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:58.120 everybody cares about your personal well being. They put themselves first, 93 00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:02.120 right And so anyways, I got prescribed lots of ant 94 00:06:02.199 --> 00:06:05.480 acids for this stomach problem that I had, and eventually, 95 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:09.680 after almost a year, I got in and had and 96 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:12.720 had a scope and they said that they found a 97 00:06:12.839 --> 00:06:17.639 polyp that was suspicious of lymphoma. Right, so right away 98 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:23.560 they they booking in with chemo and radiation doctors for 99 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:27.519 appointments and everything. And they I'm not joking, George. They 100 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:32.879 they didn't want much information from me at all. It 101 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:35.240 was like this is what it is, and this is 102 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:37.680 what you have to do, and like we need to 103 00:06:37.680 --> 00:06:40.759 get going on this basically, And I said, I, you know, 104 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:44.079 I can't. I can't make that decision right now like 105 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:46.360 I And they say, you don't have time, like we 106 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:48.240 need to get going on this, right You don't have 107 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:52.759 time to look at alternative health measures. If you take 108 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:55.480 high dose vitamin C or whatever, you're going to compromise 109 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:57.680 your kidneys and all this stuff like, these are just 110 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:01.399 local people. These are local chemo doctors from you know, 111 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:06.079 Trail BC or Colonna or whatever. And it's funny because 112 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:09.519 between the two meetings of the chemo doctor and the 113 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:14.040 radiation doctor, the one doctor, the chemo doctor, he said, 114 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:17.439 this is a blood cancer and it can't be cured 115 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:19.639 with radiation. And I was like, well, then why am 116 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:22.079 I talking to a radiation doctor as well? And the 117 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:25.800 radiation doctor said, oh no, you can absolutely radiate that 118 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:28.240 spot and it can be cured. And I said, your 119 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:33.279 two stories don't don't jive right. So between the two 120 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:38.279 of them, my wife she kinda we just sort of left. 121 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:41.079 And you can tell that they had this attitude like 122 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:45.160 I was stealing money right from their genes. And I 123 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:48.319 said to my wife, like, I like, seriously, like I 124 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:50.560 feel like it's a death sentence. And she wasn't really 125 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:55.680 worried at all, which is comforting. You find when you're 126 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:59.399 in a situation like that, about probably half the people 127 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:01.480 that you talk to you can make you feel better, 128 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:04.040 and havelf the people with what they say, they actually 129 00:08:04.040 --> 00:08:07.319 make you feel worse. Right, So to everybody that's going 130 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:10.839 through that right now, I would encourage them to find 131 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:14.639 some people that give them a good, you know, some 132 00:08:14.800 --> 00:08:17.439 hope and point them in the right direction, versus the 133 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:21.800 people that are just worried and put that fear into you. 134 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:27.079 That's not healthy. So anyways, we kind of proceeded with 135 00:08:27.720 --> 00:08:30.959 my wife. I don't know what she got into with 136 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:34.080 the information and the research, but she kind of is 137 00:08:34.679 --> 00:08:40.320 the researcher and she she I can't remember the lady's name, 138 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:43.960 but she gave me this video to listen to. And 139 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:49.679 the lady basically, her premise was, man cannot cure disease 140 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:53.480 with medications. It doesn't matter if it's chemo or radiation, whatever. 141 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:58.080 They can't disease cannot be cured with that kind of stuff. Ultimately, 142 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:02.480 the pharmaceutical industry they look at treating symptoms and it 143 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:08.080 doesn't matter. There's side effects, and it's mostly side effects really. 144 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:12.559 But her thing was this lady she was a doctor, 145 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:14.960 and she said, you need to basically get into your 146 00:09:14.960 --> 00:09:17.879 Bible and you need to talk to your creator and 147 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:23.039 get in line with his commandments so that you can 148 00:09:23.120 --> 00:09:28.039 receive his blessings and life right. And so my wife 149 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:31.919 she at that point, my friend he needed some money 150 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:36.159 and he had bought this pig, and he like it 151 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:38.120 was a butchered pig. It was all cut and wrapped. 152 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:40.759 And I said, maybe we should just bail this friend 153 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:42.399 out and give him the money and get the pig. 154 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:45.879 And my wife said, she said, I don't want to 155 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:48.360 get into it just right yet because I'm just kind 156 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:51.600 of midway through the research. But she said, I don't 157 00:09:51.600 --> 00:09:53.279 want to do that. I don't think we should do that. 158 00:09:53.720 --> 00:09:56.440 And I said, oh, okay, And so you know, another 159 00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:00.519 week went by and she kind of proposed me with 160 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:05.000 this idea that it's possible that we should still be 161 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:11.320 keeping these levitical dietary commands, right, And I didn't. I 162 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:14.440 wouldn't say I lost it, but I you know, I 163 00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:18.720 reacted how we react when we find out about things 164 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:20.240 that we're not comfortable with. 165 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:20.440 Right. 166 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:21.879 We all love our bacon, right. 167 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:27.759 Well, yeah, I mean it's hard to Yeah, it's hard 168 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:30.600 to wake somebody up to some truths like Christmas and 169 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:32.720 Easter and be ripping the bacon out of our mouths 170 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:35.559 at the same time. But you later find out that 171 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:38.360 with the bacon, it's just the salty nitrates and the 172 00:10:38.360 --> 00:10:41.000 smoky flavor, that's what you liked it. Wasn't the actual 173 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:46.519 meat anyways. So we we looked into that, and you know, 174 00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:50.120 we all learn that Noah when he brought the animals 175 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:53.159 onto the arc, every little kid remembers it was two 176 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:55.279 by two when you think two of each channel, well 177 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:58.759 it was you know, seven of every unclean and seven 178 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:02.879 pairs of every clean animal. So you look into that 179 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:07.799 and it's like, well, Noah preceded Israel by hundreds of years, right, 180 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:11.120 Like so if Noah knew what was clean and unclean 181 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:16.039 before God ever had this covenant with Israel, so does 182 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:19.360 it really make sense that he would have these dietary 183 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:22.279 commands for pre Israel and then it you know, for Israel, 184 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:25.039 and everybody says those commands are for the Jews. But 185 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:32.159 then you know, post issue a coming and you know, 186 00:11:32.279 --> 00:11:35.480 dying on the cross. Now suddenly there's like these new 187 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:39.639 rules that one day when we're all you know, facing 188 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:43.559 judgment Day, which is the same day for every person 189 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:48.960 that's ever walked this earth, how can we kind of 190 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:52.519 believe that they'll be judged differently than we will for 191 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:56.879 the same you know, the same things. So for me personally, 192 00:11:56.919 --> 00:11:59.720 it was kind of a you know, you don't like 193 00:11:59.840 --> 00:12:03.720 to to change your ways. But realistically it wasn't that 194 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:06.919 big of a change. Like you basically eat You basically 195 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:11.200 eat bacon, and some people have the odd shrimp ring 196 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:14.960 or something, and like, no, nobody's eating owls or ravens 197 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:19.720 or all the other parts of that command. Right, So 198 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:26.279 it's the it literally is basically the pork. So and 199 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:30.519 then if you look at secular science, even even secular 200 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:34.919 science and doctors, they'll say like seventy percent of pork, 201 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:39.519 random pork samples have these dangerous parasites it's trigonosis or whatever, right, 202 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:42.080 And they lots of people say they didn't know how 203 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:45.519 to cook, you know, the parasites out of the pork 204 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:47.120 back then and all this stuff, and it's like, no, 205 00:12:47.279 --> 00:12:51.000 I think you're not giving people enough credit of you know, 206 00:12:51.039 --> 00:12:53.559 what they used to do and how they used to cook. 207 00:12:53.679 --> 00:13:01.320 So yeah, it just that was a that was the 208 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:04.360 kind of first part of it all leading in. And 209 00:13:04.399 --> 00:13:08.600 so I did go for some cancer appointments where they 210 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:11.320 did follow up scopes every six months. I think I 211 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:15.120 went back for five appointments, and my this is like, 212 00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:17.960 it's crazy. I was in Cranbrook at the time, which 213 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:20.240 is a small town twenty thousand they or so people. 214 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:25.240 And the doctor that did my my scope, he was 215 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:29.240 actually a He went to this Baptist church that we attended, 216 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:34.879 right and he he said, so, how did the chemo go? 217 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:37.120 And I said, I didn't do any chemo. He said, yes, 218 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:39.519 you did, and I said, no, I didn't. He said 219 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:42.360 you did. And I'm like, I didn't, Like, I didn't 220 00:13:42.399 --> 00:13:45.039 do chemo. I didn't your radiation like I would know. 221 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:48.879 And so he said, well, you're fine, You've been clear 222 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:54.360 every time. So so it's personal for me, Like I know, 223 00:13:54.639 --> 00:14:01.360 people say, like nobody wants to hear it, nobody wants 224 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:04.960 to believe that those commandments can still apply to us today. 225 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:07.960 But for me personally, like that's the thing that we 226 00:14:08.120 --> 00:14:12.840 changed and my symptoms had gone away. We weren't eating 227 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:14.960 pork all the time. We did eat bacon and stuff. 228 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:17.919 But I think that at this point that was in 229 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:22.279 twenty that was in twenty eighteen. My daughter, she's six now, 230 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:26.399 she was she was born in the beginning of twenty nineteen, 231 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:29.440 and that was kind of when I was sort of 232 00:14:29.960 --> 00:14:32.159 going through it all. So that was six years ago now, 233 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:36.080 and I actually haven't been to a doctor since my 234 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:38.799 last appointment I canceled, and I just said somebody else 235 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:42.480 can have this one because I'm done showing up for these. 236 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:46.720 So yeah, then at that point, George, do you want 237 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:49.159 to intercede with anything? I feel like I've been talking 238 00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:49.679 for too long. 239 00:14:49.919 --> 00:14:52.879 No, it's fine, because I'm glad you mentioned that I 240 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:54.440 actually had to go. 241 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:55.840 I verrely. 242 00:14:56.480 --> 00:14:58.399 Over my first fifty five years of life, I've very 243 00:14:58.480 --> 00:14:59.240 rarely been ill. 244 00:14:59.600 --> 00:15:00.000 Three times. 245 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:01.639 I'm sad to go to the er this year because 246 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:06.279 two times because my throat losing my voice. I was 247 00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:09.720 reading through the Book of Jubileese the other day because 248 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:11.399 it kind of is a I look at it as 249 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:15.480 a supporting book of Genesis. Understand it's not canon, but 250 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:20.600 Jubileese chapter ten, verse ten says and Noah wrote down 251 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:25.000 in a book all the medicines of their diseases, how 252 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:26.279 he had healed. 253 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:28.120 Them with the herbs of the earth. 254 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:34.279 So this makes you go, hmm, did they really hide 255 00:15:34.559 --> 00:15:37.240 or you know, not hide, but try to keep us 256 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:42.320 away from reading verses like this, Like we've mentioned Jubilees 257 00:15:42.600 --> 00:15:46.519 and Enoch. When it comes to the firmament and Biblical cosmology, 258 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:49.960 which is what this podcast is basically about. So obviously 259 00:15:49.960 --> 00:15:52.679 that's going to be a topic of conversation. But when 260 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:55.519 I read that and then you think back to the 261 00:15:55.519 --> 00:15:58.840 word pharmachea and things of that nature, and then you 262 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:03.519 hear your story of how you overcame, and you know, 263 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:09.000 with this Messianic movement, which is a very fast growing movement, 264 00:16:09.080 --> 00:16:12.039 Like I listened to a gentleman from the Assembly of 265 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:18.200 Yahweh and North Alabama and also very much a Saturday 266 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:22.039 Sabbath guy and still honors the dietary laws in the 267 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:26.960 Torah that he feels is still valid and beneficial. You know, 268 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:32.039 Genesis to Deuteronomy, Leviticus eleven, Deuteronomy fourteen to be specific. 269 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:35.960 And you know, the more I think about it, and 270 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:39.080 I ponder these things all the time, and you know, 271 00:16:39.480 --> 00:16:42.559 you can find scriptures if you read the ESV Bible 272 00:16:43.320 --> 00:16:45.960 that in the New Testament, there's almost a supporting document 273 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:49.080 in the Old Testament for almost every verse. So it 274 00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:51.600 is something that even to myself, I've been thinking about 275 00:16:51.639 --> 00:16:55.080 a lot. And then kind of going over to pagan holidays, 276 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:58.159 that's something I was introduced to many many years ago, 277 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:02.200 and I had a conversation with a pastor down the 278 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:06.920 road who, like I guess their church attendance was almost 279 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:09.599 ripped in half. And that's you know, you look at 280 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:11.960 people like Dean Odle who have the courage to talk 281 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:17.880 about biblical cosmology in his church, knowing the ramifications, and 282 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:20.000 apparently there was somebody at their church who said, I've 283 00:17:20.039 --> 00:17:26.160 refused to come to my church on Easter Sunday, right, 284 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:28.319 one of the holiest days of the year, if not 285 00:17:28.400 --> 00:17:33.119 the holiest day of the year. Jesus, you know, resurrecting 286 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:38.720 from the dead and you know, basically starting the church, 287 00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:44.400 the new Church right and saving our sins and you 288 00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:47.759 want to look for eggs And that's basically the conversation 289 00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:52.359 that took place. And the traditionalists were very upset by this. 290 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:57.160 They're like, it's for the kids, how dare you do this? 291 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:00.440 And the Easter, you know, the pastor always got up 292 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:03.319 in the Easter bunny outfit and they took pictures. And 293 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:09.720 the older I get in just the more life experience 294 00:18:09.759 --> 00:18:13.039 I have. It's not about being smarter or going to college. 295 00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:18.920 It's just about life lessons and understanding God's law. You know, 296 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:22.880 there may be a place for people in downtown on 297 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:25.920 a Friday afternoon to do an a hunt that maybe 298 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:29.079 in them all if you want to take your son's 299 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:32.759 picture with Santa. But I noticed and it really affected 300 00:18:32.759 --> 00:18:38.559 me last holidays that I don't think that the traditional 301 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:42.000 side of that, especially even I cringe when I see 302 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:44.759 a tree in a church. And I know there's some 303 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:48.400 people come on man light now, but again, you know 304 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:51.400 there's still some validity. You know, just because there's a 305 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:54.799 new Covenant doesn't mean you disregard the first thirty nine 306 00:18:54.839 --> 00:18:57.440 books of the Bible. Right, I'm thinking, and I've been 307 00:18:57.440 --> 00:18:59.599 on the fence too with pork and to the fact 308 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:02.839 now that I think God's telling me, I'm just like 309 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:06.880 we talk about, we're just putting the blinders on because 310 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:10.160 you know, breakfast is always Yeah, breakfast has always been 311 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:12.079 a big part of our family. And I'm from the 312 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:16.720 I'm from the mary Dell region where you know scrapple 313 00:19:16.759 --> 00:19:19.920 and bacon, that is like a staple. But you know, 314 00:19:20.640 --> 00:19:24.960 also I'm older now and you learn that you can 315 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:28.839 either please God or you can please yourself. Now, obviously 316 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:32.480 you can please both, right, you can do things. It 317 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:36.079 shouldn't be a burden, right, But at the same time, 318 00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:38.119 you know, as I get older, I'm starting to see 319 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:41.559 these things like everything you mentioned today, it's been I've 320 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:44.440 come across all this information and again I've been everybody, 321 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:45.640 go ahead. 322 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:48.480 Everybody, all the You know, whenever you talk to a 323 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:50.880 Christian about this sort of thing, they always talk about 324 00:19:50.920 --> 00:19:53.720 the sheet with the four corners and and take that 325 00:19:54.319 --> 00:19:57.640 sort of passage out of context, where you know, he 326 00:19:58.119 --> 00:20:01.200 see he made that's Jesus the cleared all foods clean. 327 00:20:01.400 --> 00:20:07.680 And it's like that specific notation in parentheses was added 328 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:10.279 in the nineteen fifties, you find out, and it was 329 00:20:10.319 --> 00:20:15.079 never that was never in any version before that. And 330 00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:17.720 they were talking about gentiles, they weren't talking about food, right, 331 00:20:17.799 --> 00:20:21.839 kill and eat the pig. People say, like Yeshua, if 332 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:27.119 he suddenly decided to say to everyone that now you 333 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:29.960 can eat unclean foods, they probably would have just killed 334 00:20:30.039 --> 00:20:33.200 him right then and there, like he because they already 335 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:35.799 had questions about him being who he says he was, 336 00:20:35.839 --> 00:20:39.480 and wouldn't have had, you know, the authority just come 337 00:20:39.519 --> 00:20:45.720 and change the laws of the father, right so to Yeah, 338 00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:47.799 I don't know. And you mentioned Jubileese, like I think 339 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:51.359 it's Jubilees twenty three verse twenty six. Do you have 340 00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:52.039 it there? 341 00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:55.200 But I can find it. What was it again, Jubilees 342 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:55.680 twenty three. 343 00:20:56.519 --> 00:20:58.519 I think it's twenty three twenty six. 344 00:21:01.480 --> 00:21:05.400 To oh, you know, sometimes the internet can be great. 345 00:21:05.640 --> 00:21:07.200 I guess I should have put a I did put 346 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:07.920 a call in there. 347 00:21:10.759 --> 00:21:12.880 It's talking about the focus on the theme of the Covenant, 348 00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:16.960 faithfulness and its consequences, both positive and negative for the Israelites, 349 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:21.640 even in the in Malachi I the Lord do not 350 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:25.319 change Matthew five point seventeen. Do not think I had 351 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:27.319 it up here. Do not think that I have come 352 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:29.720 to abolish the law or the profits. I have not 353 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:36.680 come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. 354 00:21:34.559 --> 00:21:39.000 And fulfill meaning like not like you know, you fulfill 355 00:21:39.119 --> 00:21:42.119 sounds like just be done with it. And it's like 356 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:44.599 I did not come to abolish, but what to abolish 357 00:21:44.680 --> 00:21:48.160 that doesn't make sense. To fulfill, meaning like to fill 358 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:51.920 up to its highest potential, or to you know, to 359 00:21:52.079 --> 00:21:56.119 do it as as perfect as it can be done. Right. 360 00:21:56.359 --> 00:21:59.319 Yeah, And I found it. 361 00:21:59.319 --> 00:22:01.599 It says in those days, this is Jubilee's twenty three 362 00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:04.319 verse twenty six, And in those days the children shall 363 00:22:04.359 --> 00:22:07.319 begin to study the laws and to seek the commandments, 364 00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:07.759 and to. 365 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:10.319 Return to the path of righteousness. 366 00:22:10.359 --> 00:22:12.359 And I'll tell you, over the last three or four years, 367 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:15.680 it seems like there is a spiritual awakening and people 368 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:17.440 are starting to ask the questions. 369 00:22:17.799 --> 00:22:17.920 Right. 370 00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:20.160 We talk about the double edged sort of technology, the 371 00:22:20.240 --> 00:22:23.599 kids with TikTok and you know, being able to access 372 00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:27.480 pornography on your phone in your pocket, but also the 373 00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:30.079 sharing of information. There's a lot of people who are 374 00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:35.279 becoming awake and seeing the truth. And you know that 375 00:22:35.400 --> 00:22:38.400 verse right there really really shines the light on that. 376 00:22:39.319 --> 00:22:41.759 Yeah, and that's like that's a future prophecy, like in 377 00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:45.000 the coming days they will start to seek after the 378 00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:49.720 commandments and in his righteousness, which he defines as following 379 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:54.200 his laws. Law sounds so like they talk about legalism, right, 380 00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:58.400 and like Tora just means teaching. It's like the instruction 381 00:22:58.559 --> 00:23:01.240 book for how we're supposed to live lives. When you 382 00:23:01.279 --> 00:23:06.759 look at the Torah and it seems so burdensome it realistically, 383 00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:09.720 I think there's like maybe six hundred and thirteen commandments 384 00:23:09.720 --> 00:23:12.799 that you can count or something like that in the Torah, 385 00:23:13.200 --> 00:23:15.200 and how many of them apply to you? You're a 386 00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:16.920 you're not a woman, you're not a child, you're not 387 00:23:16.920 --> 00:23:20.200 a farmer, you're not a levitical priest. You're not you know, 388 00:23:20.279 --> 00:23:22.480 you're not a lot of things, but the ones that 389 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:26.759 do apply, most of them you already keep. Anyways, it 390 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:32.559 literally comes down to the blessing of trying to observe. 391 00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:35.480 I'm not saying do it exactly the way that they 392 00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:38.400 had to do it then, because there's things that have changed. 393 00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:40.559 We don't have a temple, we don't have a priesthood, 394 00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:46.039 like a physical priesthood and stuff, but to observe His 395 00:23:46.799 --> 00:23:49.480 biblical holidays. People don't want to get rid of Christmas 396 00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:53.119 in Easter. But there's seven biblical modeem which are like 397 00:23:53.200 --> 00:23:57.440 his holy set apart days that are part of his 398 00:23:57.640 --> 00:24:01.359 calendar that people are so really trying to find the 399 00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:04.640 right one and doesn't seem to be real obvious for anyone. 400 00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:09.440 So that's always a point of contention. But I think 401 00:24:09.480 --> 00:24:12.799