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WRAL reporting that more North Carolina property owners 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:39,600 would get new freedoms under a bill proposed by North 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:47,079 Carolina state lawmakers giving us freedoms. The House Committee on 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:52,119 Regulatory Reform gave preliminary approval to a bill that would 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:58,840 allow many North Carolinians to build at least one eight 15 00:00:59,039 --> 00:01:08,799 hundred square foot accessory dwelling unit on their property, provided 16 00:01:08,879 --> 00:01:12,840 it doesn't violate the neighborhood private covenants. 17 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,719 Speaker 2: In other words, your hoa okay. 18 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,879 Speaker 1: So if your HOA doesn't allow you to build the 19 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,879 accessory dwelling unit commonly referred to as an ADU or 20 00:01:24,159 --> 00:01:27,480 a do if you will. As long as your HOA 21 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:32,599 doesn't ban them, then a city cannot. 22 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,159 Speaker 2: Okay. So if you're if they're in. 23 00:01:35,359 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: Every HOA has what's called CCRs covenants, codes and restrictions. Right, 24 00:01:40,159 --> 00:01:42,319 these are your rules that you have to abide by. 25 00:01:42,599 --> 00:01:45,159 They're very difficult to change, like usually it takes like 26 00:01:45,159 --> 00:01:48,640 two thirds of all of the the residents to make 27 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,920 any changes to them. So if you allow, if you're 28 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,680 not allowed, if your HOA says you can't do it, 29 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,359 then you can't do it. But if you don't live 30 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,159 in an HOA, or your HOA allows you to build 31 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,719 these things, then you would be allowed to do something 32 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,799 with your own property. Wow, this is an amazing concept. 33 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:12,039 You can build an eight hundred square foot granny flat, 34 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,599 that's what we always used to call them, or you know, 35 00:02:14,599 --> 00:02:19,240 an in law suite or something. There are different names 36 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,039 for them. You don't have to call it. No, you 37 00:02:22,039 --> 00:02:25,199 don't have to call it that. But anyway, Accessory dwelling 38 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,960 units or ad us sometimes referred to as the granny 39 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,479 flats or backyard homes. I've never called it that. People 40 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:36,639 use them as extra living spaces or as rental spaces. 41 00:02:36,719 --> 00:02:37,199 Speaker 2: That's right. 42 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, you could actually build an eight hundred square foot 43 00:02:42,719 --> 00:02:48,039 granny flat back there and have an Airbnb rent it 44 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,319 out to somebody. Yes, you can put your in laws 45 00:02:51,319 --> 00:02:54,680 in it, two whatever, stick your kid out there. When 46 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,560 they get too old to be living in your house, 47 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,000 send them out there, charge them rent whatever, income generation. 48 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,560 But also a pretty good starter home for people to 49 00:03:04,599 --> 00:03:05,199 live in. 50 00:03:05,719 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: Very small. 51 00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's like it could be just a studio. 52 00:03:08,159 --> 00:03:10,360 I mean, well eight hundred square feet. You can actually 53 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:16,240 have you know, a bedroom, bathroom, kitchen, living room area. 54 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,319 My first house was like nine hundred and fifty square feet. 55 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,719 It was three bed, one bath, and a living room 56 00:03:21,759 --> 00:03:22,280 in a kitchen. 57 00:03:22,879 --> 00:03:23,319 Speaker 2: That's it. 58 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, like chop out one of the one of 59 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,759 the bedrooms. It's a pretty good sized domicile. This is 60 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,319 House BILLT six two seven. It would allow North Carolina 61 00:03:37,479 --> 00:03:42,560 municipalities to continue to regulate these things by restricting them 62 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,840 to the backyards, so you couldn't stick them in the 63 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,400 front yard. You could also require that they are smaller 64 00:03:48,439 --> 00:03:53,759 than the main house, or you can require them to 65 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,599 be built a certain distance away from a street or 66 00:03:56,639 --> 00:03:59,199 from a property line, so stuff like that. The cities 67 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,080 are still going to be to regulate, but the bill 68 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:09,439 would prohibit municipalities from banning adu's outright now, ADUs do 69 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,759 have some critics. They often say that they worry about 70 00:04:13,759 --> 00:04:16,199 the increase in traffic, which is. 71 00:04:16,319 --> 00:04:17,879 Speaker 2: Always the concern. 72 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, every single nimbi uses traffic. It's always 73 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,040 the go to the first argument against any kind of 74 00:04:29,519 --> 00:04:35,800 project or you know, renovation or something. It's always any 75 00:04:35,879 --> 00:04:40,680 zoning petition, it's always what about the traffic, the impact 76 00:04:40,759 --> 00:04:45,959 of the traffic. And to be sure, when you add 77 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,680 more residential you're going to get more people. That's kind 78 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,839 of goes hand in hand. I'm not sure if people 79 00:04:51,879 --> 00:04:54,800 realize this or not, but it's true when you build 80 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,120 more homes, you end up with more people. And people 81 00:04:57,199 --> 00:05:00,800 are traffic. You are traffic. You you are traffic. When 82 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,480 you are driving, you are traffic. Okay, so when you're 83 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,160 complaining about all of the other traffic, they're complaining about 84 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,399 you too, right. Just want that to be very very 85 00:05:10,399 --> 00:05:14,000 clear here. And part of the deal with living in 86 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:20,519 a large metropolitan area is it's a large metropolitan areas. 87 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,519 That's part of the description of the thing. Lots of 88 00:05:23,519 --> 00:05:27,279 people and as I just mentioned, people are traffic. So 89 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,720 lots of people, lots of traffic. It's like people who 90 00:05:30,759 --> 00:05:34,000 move into a city and then complain about all of 91 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,199 the noises in the city. 92 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,879 Speaker 2: When look when I when. 93 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:44,879 Speaker 1: I went to work in Ashville, I I was looking 94 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,319 to rent an apartment because I still had the house 95 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,959 here in Charlotte. Christy was still working here in Charlotte, 96 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,079 so we kept that as our residence. And then I 97 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,160 went to look for a rental apartment in Ashville. And 98 00:05:58,199 --> 00:06:00,560 I was just going to be basically, you know, driving 99 00:06:00,639 --> 00:06:03,399 up on like Sunday night, stay there, work the week 100 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,879 you know, in Ashville, and then either I would come 101 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,319 home for the weekend or Christy would go up there 102 00:06:08,319 --> 00:06:12,839 for the weekend. Well, the I went looking for apartments 103 00:06:12,879 --> 00:06:17,040 and I found one. Excuse me, I found one. 104 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: And if you know. 105 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: Downtown Ashville, they do call it downtown, not uptown. They 106 00:06:21,879 --> 00:06:28,360 downtown Ashville. There was a coffee shop called Old Europe, 107 00:06:28,439 --> 00:06:31,399 and there was an apartment for rent right above the 108 00:06:31,439 --> 00:06:36,279 coffee shop. And this would have fulfilled I don't want 109 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,879 to say a lifelong dream of mine, because it wasn't 110 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,079 really a dream and it was definitely not lifelong. But basically, 111 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,839 ever since I started watching Friends, and I was like, man, 112 00:06:44,879 --> 00:06:46,120 I would love to live above. 113 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: A coffee shop. 114 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,639 Speaker 1: I wouldn't get any sleep at all. Right, I wouldn't 115 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,839 need to. I'm above a coffee shop. But I loved 116 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,360 the idea of it right there in the heart of downtown, 117 00:06:56,439 --> 00:07:00,040 you know. And the more I thought about it, and 118 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:03,120 I went downtown, I looked at the you know, looked 119 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,920 at the street and all and everything, and it's it's 120 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,040 right there in the heart of downtown. And I was like, 121 00:07:08,079 --> 00:07:12,399 you know what, though, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be 122 00:07:12,519 --> 00:07:16,480 that guy, you know, with the with the tank top 123 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:21,519 T shirt, you know, at two in the morning, opening 124 00:07:21,519 --> 00:07:25,720 the window, screaming out, eh, keep it down out there. 125 00:07:26,279 --> 00:07:27,879 I mean, I would first have to go and buy 126 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,439 those those T shirts, those muscle shirt t shirts, which 127 00:07:30,439 --> 00:07:32,319 I don't even understand why people wear those things, because 128 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:33,720 like the whole point of the T shirt is to 129 00:07:33,879 --> 00:07:36,079 like mop up the underwarm sweat, right, So like, why 130 00:07:36,079 --> 00:07:37,600 do you cut that out of the T. 131 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:38,959 Speaker 2: Shirt in the first place? 132 00:07:39,199 --> 00:07:41,639 Speaker 1: Anyway, so the and you can see it through your 133 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,639 through the white shirts like a dress shirt. Why do 134 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,199 people wear the muscle shirts under a dress shirt that 135 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,040 you could see through. It doesn't make any sense. And really, anyway, 136 00:07:50,199 --> 00:07:52,800 I didn't want to be that guy, mainly because I 137 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,199 didn't want to wear the T shirt. But also I 138 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,519 knew enough about myself to know that at you know, 139 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,800 two in the morning, three in the morning. At my 140 00:08:00,079 --> 00:08:04,360 at this point, i'm you know, I guess thirty five, 141 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,040 forty years old. I know, yeah, probably about forty years old. 142 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:14,439 And I just know myself, to quote Chandler bing, like, 143 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,240 I want to go to bed at a reasonable hour, 144 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,040 and that's okay, that's okay. I didn't want to live 145 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:25,600 in the downtown urban environment of Ashville. Also, it's it's 146 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,399 only you know, on the second floor, which basically you're 147 00:08:28,439 --> 00:08:31,480 on the street then, and they have a they got 148 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,120 a bit of a problem in downtown Ashville. 149 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: I'm not sure you're aware of this. 150 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,639 Speaker 1: A lot of people screaming and yelling, attacking each other 151 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,399 with machetes, beating drums all day, stuff like that. So 152 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,240 like I just I didn't want to I didn't want 153 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,679 to deal with it and then the protests. So I 154 00:08:44,799 --> 00:08:48,840 just went in a suburban setting apartment. 155 00:08:49,159 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: I just did that. 156 00:08:51,399 --> 00:08:54,519 Speaker 1: But I would have loved to have done that, but 157 00:08:54,639 --> 00:08:57,559 I knew that that's what you get when you go 158 00:08:57,639 --> 00:09:01,200 into a city, You're gonna get those noises. It's not 159 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:06,159 on the city to accommodate you. You know, it's part 160 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,559 of living in a city. So critics say that they 161 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:15,080 worry about the increase in traffic and residential areas. Under 162 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,080 the bill, municipalities would not be allowed to require the 163 00:09:18,159 --> 00:09:23,200 creation of parking spots as a condition of ADU construction. 164 00:09:23,799 --> 00:09:27,320 So that's one of the ways that governments will restrict 165 00:09:28,159 --> 00:09:30,480 the building is they'll say, yeah, sure you can put 166 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,720 in an ADU. You can build a granny flat in 167 00:09:33,759 --> 00:09:36,639 your backyard. Yeah sure, you just have to dedicate a 168 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,600 parking space for it. Now where are you going to 169 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,240 do that. You can't do it on the street. You 170 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:42,720 don't on that street. So now you got to what, 171 00:09:42,799 --> 00:09:46,919 widen your driveway and dedicate a parking spot for it. 172 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,039 You may have a double car or driveway or something, 173 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,240 but now you've got to dedicate one. And maybe they 174 00:09:52,279 --> 00:09:56,399 do some codes on what the parking spot must have, 175 00:09:56,639 --> 00:10:00,879 like the concrete wheel stops or something, maybe like a 176 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,879 sign for handicapped parking. 177 00:10:03,919 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 178 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: And so there are all sorts of ways that they 179 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,799 can tinker with these zoning rules to basically ban the thing. 180 00:10:11,759 --> 00:10:13,879 But this law says you can't do that. There's no 181 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:19,039 requirement for a parking spot. State Representative Pricey Harrison, Democrat, 182 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:25,279 Guilford County. She says the legislature shouldn't dictate a municipality's 183 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,279 housing rules. 184 00:10:26,639 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: Quote. 185 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: I do not like for us to step in and 186 00:10:29,279 --> 00:10:32,919 tell local governments what they can and cannot do, but 187 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,440 I want locals to tell people what they can and 188 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:35,919 cannot do. 189 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 2: I'm just I added that last part. That's what she's saying. 190 00:10:39,399 --> 00:10:42,159 Speaker 1: She's like, Oh, the state shouldn't be telling the cities, which, 191 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,559 by the way, the cities are creations of the state. 192 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,120 They are chartered by the state. They are administrative units 193 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:50,039 of the state. 194 00:10:50,279 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 2: Okay. 195 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,399 Speaker 1: An individual is not an administrative unit of a city. 196 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,080 So she doesn't want the state to dictate to its 197 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:02,960 administrative unit that it can't dictate to individuals what they 198 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:03,440 could do with. 199 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: Their own property. 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I 219 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,559 use the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. 220 00:12:04,759 --> 00:12:07,559 Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it 221 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,720 also supports ground News as they make the media landscape 222 00:12:10,759 --> 00:12:17,159 more transparent. The North Carolina lawmakers looking at easing the 223 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:23,360 restrictions on ad us. I got a couple of messages 224 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,200 from Paul who says, if you don't like hearing people 225 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,240 complain about traffic, move somewhere with no people. That's true. 226 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,200 That's a good piece of advice. It's just it's one 227 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,120 of those things every single rezoning that I ever sat 228 00:12:43,159 --> 00:12:46,159 through as a reporter or watched on a government channel, 229 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:51,639 any rezoning where people did not want the project to occur, 230 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:58,080 they always cited traffic always, and I just it's like, 231 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,120 I don't unless you're going to say like that you 232 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,960 need to widen the road. And by the way, this 233 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,799 is that's a legitimate argument because the City of Charlotte 234 00:13:06,279 --> 00:13:10,679 has not built up the infrastructure for the amount of 235 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:16,600 residential development that they have approved. Right they haven't focused 236 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:21,000 on their core functions, their core services. They do a 237 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,960 little bit here and there. You know, they'll make the 238 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,120 developer put in sidewalks, widen roads where they can. But 239 00:13:26,799 --> 00:13:31,240 like my first no sorry, second house was down in 240 00:13:31,279 --> 00:13:34,279 Steel Creek and we would drive when we bought the house, 241 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,120 it would take twenty minutes to get to work here 242 00:13:38,159 --> 00:13:40,480 in we're on the sort of the west side of 243 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:45,679 uptown and Christy worked in Center City and it would 244 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,720 take us twenty minutes. And by the time we sold 245 00:13:48,759 --> 00:13:52,960 the house, I think about six seven years later, it 246 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,960 took her an hour to get to work because Highway 247 00:13:58,039 --> 00:14:04,720 one sixty right Steel Creek, they haven't widened it, and 248 00:14:04,759 --> 00:14:08,159 it's just it's just a long, single lane of stopped 249 00:14:08,279 --> 00:14:11,519 traffic two times a day. It's just awful. And they 250 00:14:11,639 --> 00:14:14,440 and what prompted us to put the house on the market. 251 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,279 At this point, I'm working in Nashville. I'm only home 252 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,759 on weekends to mow the yard. Basically, she's her commute 253 00:14:21,799 --> 00:14:25,399 is now an hour each way. And we see the 254 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,840 rezoning signs go up for some farm land. I pull 255 00:14:29,919 --> 00:14:32,879 up the rezoning petition on my phone and it's like 256 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,840 eight hundred something units, and I'm like, this intersection is 257 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,840 going to be completely overwhelmed. And there's another rezoning right 258 00:14:40,879 --> 00:14:45,480 across the street. It's going to be awful. And so 259 00:14:45,519 --> 00:14:47,840 I said, maybe we just sell this house, and we did, 260 00:14:47,879 --> 00:14:51,000 and then we took an apartment in Center City, and 261 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,799 then of course the riots broke out and all of that. 262 00:14:52,799 --> 00:14:54,840 We're like, okay, that was a nice experiment for the 263 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:55,879 you know, year and a half. 264 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: Let's get out. And that was it. We moved out 265 00:14:58,440 --> 00:14:58,960 of that place. 266 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: So adding the allowing people to put in these ad 267 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:11,120 us in their backyards is I think the right move. 268 00:15:11,279 --> 00:15:16,200 You can't keep complaining about there not being enough housing 269 00:15:16,279 --> 00:15:20,960 and housing being unaffordable and everything and not build more housing. 270 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,519 And this is more housing, and it's small. It's it's 271 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,679 starter right. You could you could rent this out to 272 00:15:27,759 --> 00:15:32,879 let your kid save up money to to buy put 273 00:15:32,879 --> 00:15:35,200 a down payment on a house. Somebody else wants to 274 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,919 live in a you know, suburban environment, good schools or something. 275 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:39,279 Speaker 2: Whatever. 276 00:15:40,519 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: They want to you know, move their parents out of 277 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,879 a house and into this granny flat like that's it 278 00:15:46,039 --> 00:15:50,039 serves so many purposes, and yet cities block this stuff. 279 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,720 Denzel Burnside, the executive director of the housing advocacy group 280 00:15:56,879 --> 00:16:00,799 North Carolina Housing Table, spoken in favor of the bill 281 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,480 at the legislature. He said ADUs are a simple and 282 00:16:04,519 --> 00:16:10,559 defective solution that create more affordable homes. The News and 283 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,919 Observer reporting in a related story. 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And here's 313 00:17:57,039 --> 00:17:59,400 another thing. Have you ever seen some guy wearing one 314 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,759 of those muscles T shirts under a regular T shirt? 315 00:18:02,039 --> 00:18:03,559 What the heck is that about? 316 00:18:03,279 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. 317 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:09,279 Speaker 1: I yeah, I don't understand it either. They serve no purpose, like, oh, 318 00:18:09,319 --> 00:18:13,680 I got to cover up my stomach, Like what, I 319 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,319 don't get it. Just get a T shirt if you 320 00:18:17,319 --> 00:18:19,559 want to show off your guns, like, just get one 321 00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:23,400 with you know, the short sleeves, the shorter sleeves up there, 322 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,880 you know. But generally I find that the people who 323 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,559 wear those things don't have the guns to be showing off. 324 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 2: So I don't get it. Email from Pete. 325 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: Yes, traffic is always the argument against development until it 326 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,480 is not. When they were trying to get approval for 327 00:18:40,519 --> 00:18:43,640 the Waiverley development at forty five in Providence, they said 328 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,160 traffic was going to have minimal impact because it was 329 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,480 only going to add about five thousand car trips to 330 00:18:48,599 --> 00:18:51,519 the area. Well they were right. Traffic out there is 331 00:18:51,559 --> 00:18:59,839 insane and Michael says Shopton Road West and Steel Creek 332 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,079 Road are both horrible in the mornings, And that is 333 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,799 exactly the intersection I was talking about. There is a 334 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:11,480 huge development in process right now on Sledge Road that 335 00:19:11,599 --> 00:19:15,720 is going to make it double horrible. Where oh where 336 00:19:15,759 --> 00:19:21,319 on Sledge I lived right off a Sledge We moved 337 00:19:21,319 --> 00:19:24,480 in there and they had not redesigned that crazy three 338 00:19:24,519 --> 00:19:28,680 way the triangle setup that they had there. They did 339 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,359 while we were there. They did realign that thing because 340 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,799 it was super dangerous. It was like one of the 341 00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:38,359 most dangerous intersections in the city. But yeah, it's one 342 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,960 of those things like people complain about they're not being 343 00:19:41,039 --> 00:19:45,839 enough housing, and they complain about too much apartments, too 344 00:19:45,839 --> 00:19:49,880 many apartments getting built. But then they complain also about 345 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:57,319 these granny flats which would disperse housing right instead of building. 346 00:19:57,519 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: You think about it. 347 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: If you have a neighborhood that's a thousand hole homes 348 00:20:01,079 --> 00:20:05,440 and I don't know, say two hundred of them, say 349 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,440 twenty percent put in a granny flat. So now that's 350 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,680 two hundred apartments that are not going to get built 351 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,240 in a two hundred unit apartment complex. And it's now 352 00:20:16,319 --> 00:20:22,480 spread out over a one thousand house neighborhood. Doesn't that 353 00:20:22,759 --> 00:20:25,519 sound like it's a better idea than to pack two 354 00:20:25,559 --> 00:20:27,480 hundred altogether at some intersection. 355 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:32,039 Speaker 2: You know, it's one of these. 356 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,839 Speaker 1: Things like there isn't any there are no solutions, there 357 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:36,880 are only trade. 358 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,519 Speaker 2: Offs, right, and so it's one of these things. 359 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:46,079 Speaker 1: Where it's like trying to punch smoke to try to 360 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,400 nail people down on what exactly you're objecting to, because 361 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,599 I think what it comes down to is I got 362 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,559 my piece of paradise. I'm going to pull the ladder 363 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:59,839 up behind me. That is the prevailing sentiment in Asheville. 364 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,200 Every It was amazing. I've said this before. Every single 365 00:21:04,559 --> 00:21:08,920 rezoning petition or development petition that came before the city 366 00:21:09,079 --> 00:21:11,960 would have people show up and speak against it, and 367 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,240 they would all start by saying like almost and I'm 368 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,640 not kidding, like every single speaker would start off by 369 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,000 saying something like I moved to Ashville ten years ago, 370 00:21:22,319 --> 00:21:24,359 and then they would proceed to explain why nobody else 371 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,519 should be allowed to move to Ashville. It's like I 372 00:21:26,559 --> 00:21:30,960 got mine, everybody else stay out. And the only reason 373 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,160 that they're they're speaking in front of the city council 374 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,079 is because somebody else who said the same thing to 375 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:41,400 the city council lost their appeal. Right, they came out saying, 376 00:21:41,519 --> 00:21:44,880 don't let that guy move in, and they lost. And 377 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,400 now that guy moves in, and I was like, don't 378 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,160 let some other person move in. They also had this 379 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,680 really crazy thing where it's like they didn't want anymore sprawl. Right, 380 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,519 that's the other thing too, We don't want to don't 381 00:21:55,519 --> 00:21:59,079 approve any new subdivisions because that's sprawl. But then they 382 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,160 also didn't want to build tall buildings because it would 383 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,559 ruin the view shed is what they call it, the 384 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:10,119 view shed like a watershed, but it's the view and 385 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:10,799 you're gonna. 386 00:22:10,559 --> 00:22:12,759 Speaker 2: Spoil my view. I don't want a tall building. 387 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,039 Speaker 1: These are people that don't even live in the city 388 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,839 in the downtown area. And by the way, Asheville is 389 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,720 only like ninety thousand people. It's the size of rock Hill, okay, 390 00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:26,480 and they've got like three tall buildings. The ability to 391 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,640 build a new skyscraper or tall building in downtown Ashville 392 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,119 is so limited that I believe the guy's name is mckibbon. 393 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,519 Peter mckibbon, I think is his name, and he redid 394 00:22:39,599 --> 00:22:41,519 the old BB and T building. It looked like a 395 00:22:41,519 --> 00:22:45,799 Soviet era concrete block right in the middle of the city. 396 00:22:46,319 --> 00:22:49,400 And he rehabbed the whole thing, ripped off the whole 397 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,240 face of it, redid it all, made it condos, and 398 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:54,559 there was like a boutique hotel on a couple of 399 00:22:54,559 --> 00:22:58,119 the floors, And of course that got opposition. We don't 400 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,720 need any more hotels, hey, Taurus, just give us your money, though, 401 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,720 And they thought over this, and he had said he 402 00:23:05,759 --> 00:23:10,039 could not build a tall building, so he just he 403 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,920 spent more to refurbish the exterior of this building, to 404 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,920 rip it all apart, because he knew he would never 405 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:20,599 get approval to build a skyscraper. So when that building 406 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,519 became available, that's what he did with it. So you 407 00:23:24,559 --> 00:23:26,599 don't want to build up, you don't want to build out, 408 00:23:26,839 --> 00:23:29,519 you don't want apartment buildings, you don't want ADUs, you 409 00:23:29,519 --> 00:23:32,279 don't want these granny flats, and you don't want any 410 00:23:32,279 --> 00:23:35,039 more housing to be built. But you also want housing 411 00:23:35,079 --> 00:23:37,759 to be cheap. Oh, and you also want a lot 412 00:23:37,799 --> 00:23:45,319 of you know, really high paying jobs. Guys like this 413 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,880 is not logical, Okay, this is. 414 00:23:50,079 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: All right. 415 00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: Back to this News and Observer piece bi partisan bills 416 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,599 have been introduced there. The North Carolina Housing Coalitions tracking 417 00:23:59,599 --> 00:24:02,720 one hundred and twenty bills and a cluster of bipartisan 418 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,480 bills to expand state wide housing what they call missing 419 00:24:06,759 --> 00:24:12,279 middle the missing middle these middle class housing duplexes, town homes, 420 00:24:12,519 --> 00:24:16,079 and the ADUs in single family neighborhoods. 421 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:17,519 Speaker 2: No, we can't do that. 422 00:24:17,559 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: Hey, have you been over to Elizabeth, Not the city, 423 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,720 but the area of Charlotte, the Elizabeth area. You know 424 00:24:24,759 --> 00:24:28,640 they got quadplexes all throughout that whole neighborhood, right. I 425 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,039 looked at a bunch of them when I first moved 426 00:24:31,039 --> 00:24:34,759 to Charlotte. Too expensive for me at the time to 427 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,880 just rent like a one bedroom, and they're just you know, 428 00:24:38,319 --> 00:24:40,799 it's like a rectangle building. 429 00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 2: You got four units. 430 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: The downstairs got little patios and the upstairs got balconies. 431 00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:50,319 There's one main door in and then there's a staircase 432 00:24:50,319 --> 00:24:52,319 that goes up to the two units upstairs and one 433 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,359 on each side. It's four apartments and they fit in 434 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,440 with the character of that neighborhood, I would submit a 435 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,440 little bit of and more so, they fit in with 436 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,279 the the you know, the architectural esthetic of the neighborhood 437 00:25:05,319 --> 00:25:08,319 better than the McMansions that got built there. Are you 438 00:25:08,319 --> 00:25:12,599 seeing what's happening? Also in South Park now you got million, 439 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:17,920 multimillion dollar mansions that are being torn down because the 440 00:25:18,039 --> 00:25:23,160 lots they sit on are large, and the developers then 441 00:25:23,319 --> 00:25:27,559 can come in tear down the multimillion dollar mansion and 442 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:32,079 put up three story, two million dollar condos and they 443 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,480 can pack in like twenty of them. They call them 444 00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:39,640 duets because you can't call it a duplex when you're 445 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,720 spending two million dollars on a on a town home, 446 00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:47,799 you know that's connected to another town. You're sharing a wall. Look, 447 00:25:47,839 --> 00:25:50,359 if I'm paying two million dollars, I do not want 448 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,079 to share a wall with anybody, you know. 449 00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:53,519 Speaker 2: But people will. 450 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: People will because they want to be in South Park, 451 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,119 which gosh, that's I rented over there when I moved 452 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,680 back to Charlotte to take this job, and we lived 453 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,000 in the South Park area, and holy smokes, it's ridiculous 454 00:26:06,039 --> 00:26:12,440 over there now. The traffic, oh, I hate traffic. Now. 455 00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:15,839 I would walk most places I could, but South Park 456 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:21,359 wasn't really designed for walkers, you know. So the bipartisan bills. 457 00:26:21,599 --> 00:26:25,920 State lawmakers are also exploring allowing housing development by right. 458 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,759 In other words, you don't need to get permits in 459 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,960 any area that is currently zoned for commercial use. So 460 00:26:35,079 --> 00:26:38,079 you have a commercially zoned area. If a developer comes 461 00:26:38,079 --> 00:26:40,519 in there and they want to do residential builds, they 462 00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:45,279 would be allowed to do that on a commercially zoned property. 463 00:26:45,319 --> 00:26:49,400 This is like the whole mixed use development idea. It's 464 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,640 not a new idea. It used to just be called 465 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,640 main street. You had shops on the ground floor and 466 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,880 then you had apartments above. It was a mix right 467 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,079 until the planners got all up in there in the 468 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,839 seventies and they started saying, no, we're going to put 469 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,279 you over here. We're going to segregate you guys over there. 470 00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:11,079 You're just residential. Now you're commercial over here. And then 471 00:27:11,079 --> 00:27:14,920 everybody's going to drive everywhere, and then of course you 472 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,680 got a lot of traffic. Look at Independence Boulevard, like 473 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:24,200 that's the poster child for this kind of terrible planning ideology. 474 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:31,240 In recent years, missing middle policies have sparked lawsuits across 475 00:27:31,319 --> 00:27:35,279 the country. Up in Raleigh, some residents worried about overcrowding, 476 00:27:35,839 --> 00:27:39,480 increased traffic, and changes to the look and feel of 477 00:27:39,559 --> 00:27:42,240 their neighborhoods. Okay, So here's another one of the things 478 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,920 that I feel like people need to be aware of. 479 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 2: You do not have a right. 480 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: To preserve the look and feel of other people's properties. 481 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,039 I'm not sure who needs to hear that, but I 482 00:27:56,039 --> 00:27:57,200 feel like a lot of people do. 483 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 2: So I said it. 484 00:27:58,759 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: Okay, things change, everything changes, right, It's the one constant. 485 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:10,799 Everything changes. Cities change, right, neighborhoods change, houses change. People 486 00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:13,200 paint them, they fix them, they renovate them, whatever. And 487 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:18,759 if it's not your property, then like you can't stop 488 00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:22,720 people from wanting to do something with their property to 489 00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:25,200 improve it in some way, just because you don't like 490 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,680 the look of it. It's one of the biggest things 491 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,799 I run into with the HOA that I'm in. Also, 492 00:28:28,839 --> 00:28:31,039 it's like, I don't like the look of those colored rocks. 493 00:28:31,559 --> 00:28:35,359 Not your property, it's not your house. They may like 494 00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:39,839 the red lava rocks. I personally hate them. I hate 495 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,039 is Actually that's not even strong enough. Detest them. Okay, 496 00:28:43,119 --> 00:28:46,799 I detest the red lava rocks. Would never put them 497 00:28:46,839 --> 00:28:49,079 in my I rip them out at my previous house. 498 00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:52,640 But if somebody else loves them and they want to 499 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,920 put them in their property. Then let them do it. 500 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,359 It's not for me to tell you what to do 501 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,720 with your own property it. Oh, but what about if 502 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,319 I put you know, pink flamingos in the front yard. Okay, 503 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,400 well that's the line. Okay, I draw the line of 504 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,200 the pink flamingos. 505 00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: Just kidding, all right. 506 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,279 Speaker 1: So spring is here a time of renewal and celebrations. 507 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,079 You've got graduations, weddings, anniversaries, and the special days for 508 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,519 mom and dad. 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I wear them 529 00:30:31,119 --> 00:30:33,240 the rest of the time because I am used to 530 00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:38,839 wearing them for work. Right, But wouldn't the sleeve one 531 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:44,400 give you more protection then on your shoulders, your armpits. 532 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,200 I wouldn't give you more protection than the wife Beater. 533 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:55,519 Speaker 2: Right T shirt does? I said, I don't get it. 534 00:30:55,799 --> 00:31:00,799 Speaker 1: I appreciate the attempt to inform me, Jen, but I 535 00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:04,240 cannot wrap my mind around it. All Right, So, the 536 00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:06,799 state legislature has a series of bills looking to boost 537 00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:12,480 housing supply Senebill four ninety seven. It includes allowing denser 538 00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:16,480 housing formats so up to six plexes and town homes 539 00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:20,920 in any area zoned for single family houses, so you 540 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,599 can build a six plex. It would also prohibit local 541 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:30,640 governments from discouraging development through unreasonable costs or delay, including zoning, development, sighting, 542 00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:35,559 or design review standards. Cenebill four ninety nine would allow 543 00:31:35,599 --> 00:31:38,799 housing development by right in any area currently zoned only 544 00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:40,920 for commercial, office or retail use. 545 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,279 Speaker 2: I'm okay with that one. 546 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: You got a commercial area, retail area, office area, you 547 00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:48,559 want to put up housing in there, I'm fine with that. 548 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,039 I'm not saying I would like live at the mall, 549 00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:55,759 but I'm fine with allowing for it. The bill would 550 00:31:55,759 --> 00:31:57,839 also allow the conversion of a building or part of 551 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,440 a building from commercial to residential use. 552 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: Why wouldn't that be allowed now zoning? Another bill. 553 00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: Filed by Gloris stein Brown, a Pitt County Democrat, called 554 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,680 the Housing Choice Act, would permit by right, multi family 555 00:32:16,759 --> 00:32:22,240 residential development in municipalities with under one hundred thousand residents 556 00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:26,599 multi family residential development. If you're in a city under 557 00:32:26,599 --> 00:32:31,279 one hundred thousand by Gashville, by right, you would be 558 00:32:31,319 --> 00:32:34,960 able to build multi family. It would also waive construction 559 00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:39,759 related fees for low and moderate income housing, allowing ADUs 560 00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:44,799 and offer first time home buyer education programs. Well, the 561 00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:47,880 first step in that education program should be can you 562 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,200 actually afford this house? 563 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,039 Speaker 2: That should be the first lesson. 564 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: There's a bill by Donnie Loftus, a Gaston County Republican, 565 00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:59,599 along with a Wake County Democrat, Alison Dahl. It would 566 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:06,000 restrict local governments from requiring a minimum number or size 567 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,519 of off street parking spaces, and it would clarify the 568 00:33:11,559 --> 00:33:14,680 limits of local stormwater requirements for redevelopment sites. I will 569 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,079 say the parking spaces thing. I because when we moved 570 00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:22,200 into the apartment in Center City, we got one parking 571 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,680 spot and we have there's two of us. We have 572 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,240 two cars, so we were only allowed one assigned spot, 573 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,599 which Christy got and now so I just was always 574 00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:38,119 on the lookout and it would sometimes it would take me, 575 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,960 like on a Friday night when I would come back 576 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,640 from Ashville, trying to find a parking spot on Friday 577 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,519 night was difficult because you know, people in the apartment 578 00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:49,559 building they were having friends over before they went out 579 00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:52,440 club in or whatever, and it would always be full 580 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:57,559 and there wasn't a lot of parking spaces for that. 581 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:04,240 For the number of apartments they go on to say 582 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,920 in this article at The News and Observer that the 583 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,000 number of households in the state is projected to increase 584 00:34:09,039 --> 00:34:14,679 by five percent between now and twenty twenty nine. That 585 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:21,360 results in an estimated housing gap of basically three quarters 586 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:26,079 of a million units. So we're seven hundred and sixty 587 00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:32,159 five thousand units short within four years. That includes it 588 00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:36,519 breaks down to be like a sixty forty split between 589 00:34:36,519 --> 00:34:39,920 for sale and rental units. So like we need to 590 00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:43,280 add three hundred and twenty two thousand rental units and 591 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,800 four hundred forty two thousand four sale units in four years. 592 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 2: Where are they going to go? Right? 593 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,599 Speaker 1: People need jobs in order to afford these places, So 594 00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:58,679 you've got to locate them where the jobs are. 595 00:34:58,880 --> 00:34:59,639 Speaker 2: And if all of the. 596 00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 1: Job are clustering her into the metro area because that's 597 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,360 where the workforce is that you're trying to pull from, 598 00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:14,039 right then, I don't know, Like maybe I'm thinking this 599 00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:16,800 through right now, they're Okay, let me preface there are 600 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,159 no bad ideas under the cone of creativity. Okay, I 601 00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:23,960 am right now firmly ensconced in the cone of creativity, 602 00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:26,480 So do not attack me for this idea. But how 603 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:32,440 about like company towns. Right, Like you bring in a 604 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,920 manufacture of some kind and they built like a Hershey, Pennsylvania, Right, 605 00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:40,039 I do that, like Hershey the guy he built the 606 00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:44,400 Hershey factory, right, and then as part of the factory, 607 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,480 he built this whole town around it for all the 608 00:35:46,559 --> 00:35:49,159 workers to live in. And then you can set up 609 00:35:49,159 --> 00:35:51,239 like a store. You could do a grocery store, and 610 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,239 you could charge too much money so people could never 611 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,079 afford all of the groceries. They go into debt, and 612 00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:58,480 then they can never quit or move out. Okay, right, 613 00:35:58,519 --> 00:36:00,400 don't do that last part. But that is how company 614 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,800 stores would would keep people there. But that like maybe 615 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,599 we see maybe there should be some sort of a 616 00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:12,360 regulatory or tax break for that kind of a deal, right, 617 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,800 rather than just announcing, oh, we got this big, you know, 618 00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:18,760 corporate investment. This manufacturer is going to locate here. Okay, Well, 619 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,679 they're going to locate here, and then they should have 620 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,119 a housing component as part of their project, and we 621 00:36:24,199 --> 00:36:26,320 give them some breaks for doing that. And now you've 622 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,880 got people who would you know, theoretically work there and 623 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:35,440 live right nearby. I'm under the cone of creativity, Okay. 624 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,440 Eric Brawn, the founder of Raleigh Fulward and a retired 625 00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:43,880 land use and litigation attorney, said there's no magic bullet solution. However, 626 00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:47,239 he believes these reforms. Some of these reforms would lead 627 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,719 to more inventory. You may want to sit down for this. 628 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,440 That would make housing more affordable across the state. If 629 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:59,800 you build more of the thing, then it becomes more 630 00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:05,920 available and the prices come down. It's like supply and 631 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,199 demand kind of thing for real. You can look it up. 632 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 2: All right. 633 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,679 Speaker 1: That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much 634 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,760 for listening. 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