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Speaker 3: Right now, you're back in another episode of Sledging Room,
Speaker 3: this time after a draw in Manchester. I want to
Speaker 3: ask you, Soro King Shock, why are we celebrating mediocrity?
Speaker 3: Why are we celebrating at draw? England scored six to
Speaker 3: sixty nine runs. India needed to back twice to just
Speaker 3: scrape past them. Then why are we celebrating mediocrity? It's
Speaker 3: not as if you've won the Test or you have
Speaker 3: you know, won the series. You're still won two. The
Speaker 3: fifth Test is in Oval, where your record is not
Speaker 3: that great and you don't have you know, a just
Speaker 3: bit boommera. You might not have a just bit boomra
Speaker 3: and your bowling still looks shambolic. Why are we celebrating mediocrity?
Speaker 3: Why did you jump off the seat when you know
Speaker 3: Washington soon that hit that boundary and say double and
Speaker 3: got his got to his hundred. Why were we celebrating
Speaker 3: it yesterday? It's my question to both of you.
Speaker 4: You know, on day four, when England declared and when
Speaker 4: came out to bad in the first very over, Chris Folkes,
Speaker 4: Dow two har Betters, Jessull and Suedessian gone on back
Speaker 4: to Bold Deliveries.
Speaker 1: Who asked them not to score hundreds.
Speaker 4: Okay, let me complete actually let yeah, okay. So then
Speaker 4: what happens is I hear Michael a certain talk in
Speaker 4: the commentary and he says, we'll look for our trains.
Speaker 4: This test mess might get over very soon and we
Speaker 4: have to head back to our homes. And then Schumann
Speaker 4: Gil walks out and he defends the hat trick ball,
Speaker 4: and then there's a linear passage where the new ball
Speaker 4: is doing so much and it looks like every ball
Speaker 4: will carry a wicket. Then Gil and Kale Rahole they
Speaker 4: somehow survived that session and then they go on to
Speaker 4: I think share one eighty plus stand till day five.
Speaker 4: They go un skate on day four and they go
Speaker 4: to day five. Then Kal ra Hole gets undone by
Speaker 4: a Ben Strokes jack backed in. Then Schumang Gill scores
Speaker 4: one hundred. Kala Hole miss out his hundred ninety, Schumangus
Speaker 4: scored a hundred, and then he pokes a delivery that's
Speaker 4: going outside of Archers salivates and again it looks like
Speaker 4: England are back in a Test and six tickets might
Speaker 4: fall like a zap of fingers, and you can see
Speaker 4: England as rejoicing. Benustokes is very happy and it looks
Speaker 4: like they have just done the up because now India
Speaker 4: don't have a Shepherd.
Speaker 1: Mind you, Shepherd might have walked out to bat, but.
Speaker 4: He was not fit enough and he has been He
Speaker 4: had been ruled out of the series entirely, but just
Speaker 4: because India might, if India might needed bunking too bad,
Speaker 4: he might have come out. Then you see two left
Speaker 4: handed all rounders came out. One is a senior who
Speaker 4: has been questioned how is he is he still surviving
Speaker 4: in the ciccate when rohit and we're retired. Second is
Speaker 4: the one who's sooner, who is impact by the coach
Speaker 4: and everybody has questioned his inclusion. Why is he playing?
Speaker 4: Why school leap not playing? Why are you not including
Speaker 4: a fastball in a order instead of him? And then
Speaker 4: these two what they did on day five to share
Speaker 4: a two hundred plus stand and both Scorte century. And
Speaker 4: the biggest point was before this Chote century one hour
Speaker 4: before the play couldn't when England realized, oh now we
Speaker 4: don't have it in hours to we just get those
Speaker 4: five six wickets, let's go and shake our hands. Then
Speaker 4: Menstokes walks up to and he's like, let's shake the
Speaker 4: hands and let's end it.
Speaker 1: You have drawn a smatch. That is where we realized
Speaker 1: that it was.
Speaker 4: It might be called us a draw, but that was
Speaker 4: a victory for me, especially because you could see entire
Speaker 4: England team, Zach Crawley, bend Kid, Harry Brooke, Ben Strokes,
Speaker 4: everybody was riled up. They were like, no, no, we
Speaker 4: don't want to bowl just because you are tired. You
Speaker 4: know that you can't wickets. You wanted to get them
Speaker 4: get the match over.
Speaker 3: See, it's it's essentially a win.
Speaker 1: It's a moral wine.
Speaker 3: What what were years ago this very same episode before
Speaker 3: you intested this man was, you know, criticizing moral victories
Speaker 3: of England team during the ashes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now he's celebrating one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you have defeated the moral win Alsa not
Speaker 3: like they were reaching WUTC finals.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The only thing that they were winning was perhaps moral win.
Speaker 3: Now the morality is on the gone. Yeah, what are
Speaker 3: the winning winning?
Speaker 1: Nothing now?
Speaker 4: And if you can't pick the six eight wickets in
Speaker 4: five sessions ten weeks, five sessions, I'm sorry your browling
Speaker 4: attack is.
Speaker 1: Not good enough.
Speaker 3: You're cooked.
Speaker 1: Are we looking at five ashes?
Speaker 4: That that will depend on the fitness of the fastballers
Speaker 4: of England, someone like Joe.
Speaker 1: Squad.
Speaker 3: They also carry Mark.
Speaker 4: Because I can assure you one thing, Australia are not
Speaker 4: going to roll out flat tracks like England have rolled out.
Speaker 1: In this series.
Speaker 3: I want to try Test series between India and England.
Speaker 3: Series that will be fun.
Speaker 1: Fun England, no, let's have it, let's have it in Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe you give them those the first one to get it.
Speaker 3: Give them the West Indies pitchers all out.
Speaker 1: They should be banter every Test.
Speaker 3: I think it will be like a tag team match,
Speaker 3: like when you played w W with your friends. Suddenly
Speaker 3: you will gang up against one person and eliminated. I'm
Speaker 3: sure who's going to hang up with India Austria despite
Speaker 3: all their animosity, I am I am quite surprised that
Speaker 3: England have not claimed victory for bringing in the eyeballs
Speaker 3: and bringing in the crowding dama every single Test match.
Speaker 3: So I'm very surprised at that, and that essentially is
Speaker 3: what the victory was.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: They were devastrated. I have never seen in my life,
Speaker 3: Ben Stokes that frustrated.
Speaker 1: You know, I was. I was telling sorrow in the
Speaker 1: morning in our a phone call.
Speaker 3: Also that the discourse on social media and some of
Speaker 3: the comments to our copies have been you know, to
Speaker 3: say the least disgraceful, as in like how you can
Speaker 3: have your opinions, but how can you not read between
Speaker 3: the lines in this Test match?
Speaker 1: Why are you asking why we are celebrating as what?
Speaker 3: What? What have been the comments? If you can tell,
Speaker 3: like why so you have you have forgotten how India
Speaker 3: struggled in the first innings, India were made to bat twice.
Speaker 3: Why are we celebrating this? India are celebrating this win,
Speaker 3: like how Pakistan celebrated the pilcam operations indur So these
Speaker 3: things kind of you know irritates people, right yeah, like
Speaker 3: you know, when you don't get the point. I think
Speaker 3: when you don't get the point, these these are these
Speaker 3: are things that like what was the draw in that match.
Speaker 1: What was the significance of the draw In that match
Speaker 1: you batted twice.
Speaker 3: Yes, you allowed England to score six sixty nine, but
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, with three days turnaround,
Speaker 3: you made them bowl two fifty to sixty overs. By
Speaker 3: the end of that final hour when Ben Stock said,
Speaker 3: oh I don't want to bowl my frontline bowlers, everybody
Speaker 3: was spent. Imagine India batting through that fifteen overs period.
Speaker 3: Fifteen overs period. They would have, of course continued with
Speaker 3: those but they they would have still spent time on
Speaker 3: the field. We should have made them bad, but I
Speaker 3: don't think the umpires would have allowed that. A declaration
Speaker 3: would have meant that go home now. No, you could
Speaker 3: have declared and asked them to bat again. Also, I
Speaker 3: think last umpires would have taken the call. There last episode,
Speaker 3: the last podcast were actually wasn't there. The podcast was
Speaker 3: titled that this series is giving upwenty one by league.
Speaker 3: So I remember when he came back. Actually I came
Speaker 3: back and I went up to when I said that
Speaker 3: I think we should explore this angle a little more.
Speaker 3: Let me write a copy, like what bgit everything we have?
Speaker 1: What is this team?
Speaker 3: What is that team. But yesterday's draw man that was
Speaker 3: that was how do you call it? That raised the roof?
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think I think sometimes it's just
Speaker 3: like we have already discussed a draw is special, like
Speaker 3: we saw that in the Sydney Test.
Speaker 1: For twenty twenty one, draws have had more romance.
Speaker 3: Actually, yes, exactly if you look at it, faf dou
Speaker 3: Plac and Abd william is grinding that out and Michael
Speaker 3: Atheretton himself, you know, batting over ten hours in nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety nine.
Speaker 1: Some these are some you know.
Speaker 3: If you look at BGD series even down twenty years,
Speaker 3: we'll keep talking about Sydney as much as GABA. I
Speaker 3: think absolutely, And I got I got these vibes, like
Speaker 3: you said, vibes Tim Paine was talking too much insane
Speaker 3: to come to Let's see what you I got the
Speaker 3: similar vibes. When Ben Stalks lost it in the last hour.
Speaker 3: You know, you call him the greatest all rounder, you
Speaker 3: call him the greatest all rounder, the superhuman.
Speaker 1: I saw the headline when I walked into office yesterday.
Speaker 3: Superhuman Benstokes removes scale rowl Bloody didn't bowl the entire
Speaker 3: day on day four and took her. Maybe that was
Speaker 3: a mistake from his side, but yeah, I think he
Speaker 3: was struggling. I think it was heavily struggling because of that.
Speaker 1: Let me be frank, Ben Stokes is the moment of Finland.
Speaker 3: That's what I don't agree kind of whenever I think
Speaker 3: Ben stalks when he loves creating theater. Of course, just
Speaker 3: like our risman falls and holds his for half of
Speaker 3: the time. I think when Ben Stalks walked up to
Speaker 3: what did did you tell that would you want to
Speaker 3: score a hundred against legendary Crawley? Yeah, I told that
Speaker 3: if you wanted to score this hundred, you should have
Speaker 3: scored it earlier. You know, they will dictate the opposition
Speaker 3: space of play.
Speaker 4: Also, so when I was watching yesterday and when Crawley
Speaker 4: was talking to Jadeja that what will you do? You
Speaker 4: can just shake your hands and finish the match, you know,
Speaker 4: I realized I had seen somewhere, and then I went
Speaker 4: back into memory.
Speaker 1: Have you guys watched Game of Thrones?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the first Sade episode of Game of Thrones,
Speaker 4: the first guy who saw white workers, the guy who
Speaker 4: was butchered.
Speaker 1: He looks the same as Zach. If you go and
Speaker 1: watch him.
Speaker 4: Zach Crawley is all hype, no performance, nothing else. And
Speaker 4: more than that, you know, when you talk about draws
Speaker 4: like you mentioned, especially when you talk about someone like
Speaker 4: something like Gaba, and you said Sydney will be remembered
Speaker 4: as much as Gaba definitely because Gaba wasossible only because
Speaker 4: Sydney happened. You do the Test match in Sydney, you
Speaker 4: put your body on the line against those the Austilian
Speaker 4: pace trial, and then you force them, you break their
Speaker 4: mural higher on whatever they were there, and then you
Speaker 4: actually kept the series alive so that your team could
Speaker 4: go and win the next less match.
Speaker 1: Similar things supply here.
Speaker 3: I think we've been conditioned to, you know, think this
Speaker 3: way as a society, especially in this very competitive society.
Speaker 3: It's either win or lose. There's nothing in between. Like
Speaker 3: I can't stay back one day and then you know,
Speaker 3: not do anything and then just you know, take a
Speaker 3: chelf pill.
Speaker 1: That's just you.
Speaker 3: Maybe we've been conditioned to think absolutely like it's either
Speaker 3: black or white. Yeah, there's no great Yeah, So what
Speaker 3: sport sometimes offers you this? You know, it's actually if
Speaker 3: you look at it, it's not a result. It's not
Speaker 3: non consequential. But it's that is the beauty of the sport,
Speaker 3: right you don't win, you don't lose. That there is
Speaker 3: that's the beauty of Test cricket. That this you cannot
Speaker 3: it's not possible in any other format of the game.
Speaker 3: And that's these are the moments where essentially, what's the
Speaker 3: reason that Test cricket should live on and it should
Speaker 3: be prioritized?
Speaker 4: Should it be five days or four days? Five days
Speaker 4: and four days earlier? Five days test match? Five days?
Speaker 4: Don't disturb the tourist found cricket, please, don't you know? Often,
Speaker 4: especially with this bass ball, since since basball has come
Speaker 4: I think three years ago it first came in to existence,
Speaker 4: we have made it a habit, especially the young gen
Speaker 4: nations who watched his cricket, who are more u entitled
Speaker 4: to watching something like IPL or he don't de Leagues
Speaker 4: or he don't the World Cup. So what they have
Speaker 4: done is they've always enjoyed someone like Ship this cricket.
Speaker 4: But we have always seen, especially we our generation nineties
Speaker 4: one kids, we have seen we have seen someone like
Speaker 4: dru someone like Pujara, We've seen someone like Keane Williamson.
Speaker 4: So we have always looked up to them and realized
Speaker 4: that Test cickeet is not just about scoring runs just testlic.
Speaker 4: It is also about just playing the ball, playing to
Speaker 4: the sision by session, to the merit of the ball,
Speaker 4: just staying on the crease. Survival is the main, the
Speaker 4: main motive of Test cricket.
Speaker 3: When when push comes to shove, you survive.
Speaker 1: You survive?
Speaker 3: Should ask always says, you know you you know that
Speaker 3: it's it's Test cricket. There's more time than you think.
Speaker 3: Even uses that analogy for audio cricket. He says, there's
Speaker 3: more time than you think.
Speaker 1: I think. He must have been the most.
Speaker 3: Happiest man, the happiest man on the com balk yesterday.
Speaker 3: The way he was losing the fuse. Let's come to that,
Speaker 3: you know, Yes, the way he was losing the fuse,
Speaker 3: he was like, nothing wrong in there's nothing wrong in this.
Speaker 3: I hope India bat all the fifteen overs as in
Speaker 3: like Stokes was right when he walked up to the
Speaker 3: umpires and said, okay, let's end it here.
Speaker 1: But do you think he did not expect these two
Speaker 1: to go to the hundred? Was it? Was it something? Okay?
Speaker 3: I I don't know these guys might not want their hundreds,
Speaker 3: so let me go and shake hands. Did you not
Speaker 3: expect India to do that? Then?
Speaker 4: Why did Ben Strokes at the first inland of batting?
Speaker 4: Why did he went on to battist sixty nine? Could
Speaker 4: have declared when they had two fifty lead he wanted
Speaker 4: to score one fifty one sixty because he had not
Speaker 4: scored one hundred and like two years. Then what about
Speaker 4: soon the sonder has never scored a Test hundred. This
Speaker 4: was his first Test hundred. Someone like he has outscored
Speaker 4: Joe Route in this series, outscored with the bat, but
Speaker 4: twenty years down the line up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you look at the scorecard of this match,
Speaker 3: you can clearly say scored those runs against Harry Brook.
Speaker 1: Washington runs against Harry Brook.
Speaker 4: Like like I was watching Rushin's video, Like Rushins said
Speaker 4: very clearly, he said, Boss Raveneja did not survive three
Speaker 4: sessions while batting against someone like Harry Brook or bendictt
Speaker 4: ravenger Dija survived those three seasons against every baller you
Speaker 4: pit him against you. You threw the ball to someone
Speaker 4: like Dawson, you threw the ball to Urscher, You yourself
Speaker 4: tried to break the partnership.
Speaker 1: You did everything that you could do.
Speaker 4: In fact, just before tea was called, I think the
Speaker 4: t was called and they were still leaving the ground.
Speaker 4: We saw that that Ben Stokes was having a very
Speaker 4: very fiery chat with Dawson. He was still in Dawson, Look,
Speaker 4: there's a rough patch. Why are you not using left
Speaker 4: arms spinners?
Speaker 1: I was just going to come to that. I think for.
Speaker 3: Those who have watched in the video go and watch
Speaker 3: his Thumber video. He has flown his fuse there. He
Speaker 3: has literally called out Zach Crowley. He was asked when
Speaker 3: was the last time Crawley hit a hundred? When was
Speaker 3: the last time that that?
Speaker 1: In India? Also, he was very very is.
Speaker 3: A sensational page on Twitter. It's called what is Zach
Speaker 3: Crowlely doing? Yeah, they've been asking the same question for
Speaker 3: a while now what is he doing?
Speaker 1: Actually?
Speaker 3: And then then they said that that zachl is not
Speaker 3: role is not to score runs, it's to ask the
Speaker 3: right questions. Yeah, why didn't you bat like this earlier?
Speaker 3: Why couldn't if you wanted one hundred, he would have
Speaker 3: hit shots earlier? What is wrong with you?
Speaker 1: Man? That's his role? So the problem is England have
Speaker 1: now the moral battle as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the moral high ground that they always had right
Speaker 3: from I don't know pre colonial era, they have lost
Speaker 3: that as well.
Speaker 1: Now where do they hide? What do they hide? You
Speaker 1: know what?
Speaker 4: My biggest concern was the biggest tip of hypocricy for
Speaker 4: someone like Ben Strokes. Your only icy World Cup came
Speaker 4: on boundary count rule. Why do you not score the
Speaker 4: runs in the requisite rovers? Why were you waiting for
Speaker 4: the boundary count rule to win the World Cup? You
Speaker 4: come and question someone like and sooner. We have survived
Speaker 4: the entire Sesson against your bowlers on the pitch that
Speaker 4: your team prepared on your demands.
Speaker 1: It was a little very poor taste.
Speaker 3: It turned out, it turned out sore in all these
Speaker 3: a great test man. Stocks lost it. Painstocks one hundred
Speaker 3: percent lostest. And I think it happened because of how
Speaker 3: the phase of play went. Day four is not bowled
Speaker 3: India at one seventy four runs after going zero two down,
Speaker 3: Stokes comes in. I think it took the first over
Speaker 3: after Losson on day five they get wickets, two wickets
Speaker 3: quick quick, and then after that again the play flattens out.
Speaker 3: I think from the moral custodian point of view, he
Speaker 3: absolutely lost it at his teammates. What on earth are
Speaker 3: you guys doing. Stokes is also the I think the
Speaker 3: highest cricket taker in the series.
Speaker 1: At them like that.
Speaker 3: Yes, from what I can see is that he's given
Speaker 3: his all and the rest of them just simply did
Speaker 3: not bother to turn up in this Test match. And
Speaker 3: I am very happy that for a team that tries
Speaker 3: to posture themselves as this morality kind of a thing,
Speaker 3: they lost it in front of everyone, not behind the scenes.
Speaker 4: I have one more point to make, Like you're talking
Speaker 4: about Ben Stokes, I don't agree with your comparison of
Speaker 4: Stokes to this one is why the third getter, absolutely
Speaker 4: useless cricketer who has been thrown out of every format.
Speaker 4: Obviously Pakistan team is no goody. But Ben Stokes is
Speaker 4: a match no doubt about that. Now, there are two things.
Speaker 4: One is your performance and your will to do great
Speaker 4: and the second thing is your character on the field.
Speaker 1: If you're losing. Ben Stokes is a great cricketer.
Speaker 4: He is someone who creates magic on the field with
Speaker 4: the ball while fielding wild batting. But yesterday what happened
Speaker 4: was so I heard I think seward Board was saying
Speaker 4: that Ben Strokes will not play the last Test match
Speaker 4: because his body has given up. If he didn't win
Speaker 4: this Test, now ben Strokes must have reized, oh my god,
Speaker 4: I have to play. I have to play the next
Speaker 4: Test match because I have changed and chopped my team.
Speaker 4: I have brought in everyone, but these buggers can't pick
Speaker 4: me wickets.
Speaker 1: I have to just go and do the job every time.
Speaker 4: Whether in this Test match you see want them, he
Speaker 4: won them in the match, picked up a five in
Speaker 4: the first innings, bolled out India.
Speaker 3: Stokes was giving them yeah, back.
Speaker 1: To back man the match.
Speaker 4: Odds scored his first Test on hundred in the last
Speaker 4: two years. He did everything that he could do as
Speaker 4: a player. As a captain also, he was trying to
Speaker 4: make all the changes. He was mars tups well. But
Speaker 4: then it all comes down to your team's performance. Like
Speaker 4: in this series. If you look at it, India have
Speaker 4: won more sessions, but the series line says England are
Speaker 4: leading to one because England have been putting in.
Speaker 3: That moment, those moments of brilliance.
Speaker 1: It's not England, it's Bend Stokes. If you ask me,
Speaker 1: he is the only man who's doing it for them
Speaker 1: like flint off sashes. Can we call these Stokes and Center? Absolutely?
Speaker 3: I can see if they win.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know Joe rout is hyped up so much.
Speaker 4: Is he's scoring hads offt to him? But what has
Speaker 4: done in the series two hundreds?
Speaker 1: He scored lessons? And who backs at number seven? What
Speaker 1: are you doing? You're playing on a flat track.
Speaker 4: Let's look at it, Shuman, Schumann Gill has come out
Speaker 4: and scored seven hundred orders in your own track on
Speaker 4: your own pitches.
Speaker 1: What is Joru doing?
Speaker 3: He's giving respect to such not getting there. So my
Speaker 3: my bigger problems yesterday was not with Stokes. It was
Speaker 3: with Crawley and Brooke. I'm thinking Stokes is frustrated, has
Speaker 3: the right to be, has done everything through the series.
Speaker 1: What are you complaining about? What is Brooke complaining about
Speaker 1: in this? Why is he bowling dolls?
Speaker 3: Where is your spirit of fight? If you are not
Speaker 3: there on the ground to compete, then why are you
Speaker 3: playing in the first place. By the way, you are
Speaker 3: also the white ball captain of England. That's the message
Speaker 3: that you are sending while playing red ball cricket that
Speaker 3: I'm going to bowld dollies so that people hit me
Speaker 3: get to the century and I go back home an
Speaker 3: hour half an hour early from this game. I think
Speaker 3: it was a disrespect to the game, right it was.
Speaker 3: I agree the way Brooke bold it was even if
Speaker 3: you looked at it, Joe rude. For all the complaints
Speaker 3: that sort of had about Joe rut the way he
Speaker 3: bowled in that four four five overface, he bold it well.
Speaker 1: He tried his best. Although judges I hit him.
Speaker 3: I think soon soon they hit him for three successive boundaries.
Speaker 1: Brook on the other end, was you know, he was
Speaker 1: testing everyone's patience.
Speaker 3: I think Stokes himself said that I had to go
Speaker 3: to Brook and say don't do don't do funny things
Speaker 3: something like that.
Speaker 1: Something like that Stokes in the post match press conference.
Speaker 1: But it looked ugly.
Speaker 3: It was, you know, had it been he should have
Speaker 3: been fined for all this should have been fined for. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this suspect to the game, complete disrespect. And Brooke has
Speaker 3: a character.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it. I don't know. Hate is a
Speaker 1: strong word.
Speaker 3: But you can understand why unlike you can understand why
Speaker 3: the rest of the world don't see the you know,
Speaker 3: merit in England calling him the superstar and all that
Speaker 3: you know. Of course England if someone if someone averages
Speaker 3: fourteen England, he can be a superstar. So that's something
Speaker 3: that you have to understand. But yes, this Harry Brooke,
Speaker 3: I don't know for all the talent probably he has.
Speaker 3: He has not conducted himself well in the last two
Speaker 3: three years. Wherever he has gone, whatever he has.
Speaker 4: Done, someone should go and give Harry a example of
Speaker 4: North comply. He had probably more talent than such as
Speaker 4: a looker. That's what I hear from my uncles and
Speaker 4: my senior colleagues. But he could never make it big
Speaker 4: because of his attitude and characters. See whatever hype English
Speaker 4: media has created around Harry brook Yes, he has a
Speaker 4: table in Pakistan on a flat road track. In the
Speaker 4: same series when they put in spin tracks, he was
Speaker 4: he did not know what to do. Then he comes
Speaker 4: to India, plays Odiao World Cup, does jack and then
Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, he came for the te day serios,
Speaker 4: so he did jack apart from one fifty and then
Speaker 4: he threw away it when they were supposed they was
Speaker 4: banking on him to get them over the line. Now,
Speaker 4: even with his high built thing. I was actually irritated.
Speaker 4: You come in the auction every time and then you
Speaker 4: pull out. I can understand your feelings where you say
Speaker 4: that last year. Last year he said that that I
Speaker 4: lost my grandmother. I want to stay away from cricket.
Speaker 4: Great understandable now you say it. I want to focus
Speaker 4: on England cricket. Brother, your predecessors, the guy who won
Speaker 4: England their first ever Day World Cup made sure I'm
Speaker 4: talking about, made sure that these English cricketers come and
Speaker 4: play IPL to become more comparative and know how to
Speaker 4: tackle the situations. Now, when you know that India are
Speaker 4: going to host the Icy don't word Cup next year
Speaker 4: and you are going to lead England, you did not
Speaker 4: even had the guts to come and play.
Speaker 1: Even Cam Brierson questioned him.
Speaker 4: He said, if I was a Harry book, I would
Speaker 4: love to come and just see how these tracks are playing.
Speaker 1: One year before that, you don't work up. I would
Speaker 1: like to get more experience.
Speaker 4: And what better than you're getting paid to play and
Speaker 4: you're getting the experience which can help a national team.
Speaker 1: Also, you know, I don't see see it might be
Speaker 1: extremely wrong.
Speaker 3: I am sitting here miles away from where Harry brook Is,
Speaker 3: but it doesn't seem to be someone who can you know,
Speaker 3: cope criticism or cope the you know, anger of the fans,
Speaker 3: like how someone like Birat or Benstok state in the
Speaker 3: early part of their careers.
Speaker 1: Is he that mentally strong? I don't know.
Speaker 3: So it's you know, it's it's quite it's quite a
Speaker 3: little be good for him if he kind of doesn't
Speaker 3: play that hand against and you know, try to win
Speaker 3: some hearts as well.
Speaker 1: But I think he is that.
Speaker 3: Character, to be honest. I remember his time at SRH
Speaker 3: twenty two three. He had a string of single digit scores,
Speaker 3: scored one hundred at Eden against Kolata, full boasted about it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: very glad to shut up some fans, and then again
Speaker 3: a string of single digit scores and then got thrown
Speaker 3: out of the team.
Speaker 1: He's that kind of a.
Speaker 3: Character at the moment at least. But there it's not
Speaker 3: like England have not had brash characters like if you
Speaker 3: like Kevin Peterson in his young days, extremely arrogant and brash,
Speaker 3: do you do he did back it up with his performances,
Speaker 3: right not of course, of course, of course Andy Flint
Speaker 3: talk was similar yeah, but we we we've had those
Speaker 3: characters who are like very they left to talk and
Speaker 3: that's the character. Also probably England want as the leader
Speaker 3: of their team after Joe Ruta, where both of these
Speaker 3: guys Ben Stokes and Harry Brook, they like to talk
Speaker 3: a lot if they like how Stokes back has backed
Speaker 3: it up with his batting and bowling both. So even
Speaker 3: though he's the opposition captain, he commands a certain respect
Speaker 3: from our end. But you won't have the same with
Speaker 3: the Harribrook never that's the difference, you know. Stepping back
Speaker 3: from all this, you know, discussion about Stokes, the spirit
Speaker 3: of cricket and colonialism and all that. I just wanted
Speaker 3: to ask looking at this bowling attack, England's bowling attack,
Speaker 3: which you said Stokes is the only guy who's making
Speaker 3: things happen. Of course our archer here and there. Is
Speaker 3: it fair that India are one two down? Where have
Speaker 3: we led this slip? If they can't pick up more
Speaker 3: than four wickets over two days, this is a missed
Speaker 3: opportunity in my opinion in India should have been three
Speaker 3: nail up or three one up.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, But then again, you know it is always reflected
Speaker 4: in the results like you are too one down because
Speaker 4: you did not seize the moments when you had to
Speaker 4: seize the moments you got chances. In the field, you
Speaker 4: drop the catches you got chances. While bowling you gave
Speaker 4: so many excellans the moment your top order had to
Speaker 4: just step up, especially in the lot. I think Day
Speaker 4: four they just have to stick to the wicket and
Speaker 4: make sure that they don't lose wickets. They kept on
Speaker 4: losing wickets. Gil was dismissed, was dismissed as well was dismissed.
Speaker 4: And more than that. You know, it's very simple. Any
Speaker 4: form cricket you play, there are three disciplines where you
Speaker 4: have to excel batting, molling, fielding.
Speaker 1: What India have done is sledging.
Speaker 4: Is something which you when you when you play someone
Speaker 4: like Australia.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's where your sledging comes into play.
Speaker 3: A moral posturing. That's not a I.
Speaker 1: Don't I don't count count it.
Speaker 3: I don't count it fifteen minutes here now, why what
Speaker 3: do you think?
Speaker 1: Why will you it?
Speaker 3: You know, let's call it off. Why like you can
Speaker 3: call it off right? No, just because just because you
Speaker 3: are tired, you're making good points.
Speaker 1: I don't want that to happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just because you're tired. I will not make good
Speaker 4: points just because your team is tired. I could not
Speaker 4: score my handed Why but that came out, I thought,
Speaker 4: But I realized that I caught it the right movement.
Speaker 3: Great job.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So there are three disciplines we have to do
Speaker 4: better than whatever the operation is doing. Batting, bowling, fielding. Now,
Speaker 4: in the batting department we have been excellent. If you
Speaker 4: look at the highest than scorers top to at least
Speaker 4: highest and scores are Indian top two or.
Speaker 1: Top two to. Indian has gone past route. Okay, fine.
Speaker 4: In the boiling department, Bell Chokes is the highest wicket
Speaker 4: agory in the series. But apart from him, there is
Speaker 4: no other English bowler in the top three, top four,
Speaker 4: you have Boma, you have Siraj. The only place where
Speaker 4: I personally feel we have actually made a mess office
Speaker 4: the feeling department, we have dropped. We rot too many
Speaker 4: catches in the leads for England to win the Test match.
Speaker 4: In the second Test, we bowled well, we feel it well,
Speaker 4: we batted well. We want a Test match. In the
Speaker 4: third Test, again, our wicket keeper could not understand the
Speaker 4: slope of lots, and we considered too many extras. Even
Speaker 4: the bowlers were bowling erratic lines, and those extras came
Speaker 4: back to haunt us. Like I said in the last podcast,
Speaker 4: also India considered like fifty two to sixty puns in
Speaker 4: extras in the two winnings of England.
Speaker 1: And then you'll want tween durance.
Speaker 4: So you see how disciplined in every field matters pulling,
Speaker 4: batting and feeling.
Speaker 1: England. On other hand, I'll just finish my.
Speaker 4: Point might not have been the better side while batting,
Speaker 4: but whenever they have got moments, they have seized it,
Speaker 4: like ben Zooks did that.
Speaker 1: Run out of punt and lots in the first innings.
Speaker 4: Okay, apart from that, if you see Leeds when they
Speaker 4: needed to chase down three seventy and they open a
Speaker 4: step up, we might question Crawley for everything that he hasn't,
Speaker 4: but in the first is it was him and Duckett
Speaker 4: who made sure that they gave England a foundation so
Speaker 4: that they could go and chase.
Speaker 3: Down this one. Also the human ducket.
Speaker 1: So they have actually seized on moments there.
Speaker 4: They don't look the better side statistically, but if you
Speaker 4: look at the moment twice the moment it feels like
Speaker 4: this session should decide the result of the match. Okay,
Speaker 4: we're here, We'll win this session. If even if we
Speaker 4: have lost the last four sessions, we'll win the fifth session.
Speaker 1: Will match? Yeah, I'll bet that.
Speaker 3: My main problem with this series has been that so
Speaker 3: eighteen hundreds have been scored already, so clearly the addition
Speaker 3: of batters is not going to win new Test matches.
Speaker 3: Whatever said and done in Manchester, you let them score
Speaker 3: close to seven hundred runs. Things could have gone wrong
Speaker 3: very quickly. Like you said on Day five, first morning session,
Speaker 3: every single ball looked like a big wicket ball. If
Speaker 3: you would have lost Gail early and somebody else early,
Speaker 3: we could have been in massive, massive trouble. Now, the
Speaker 3: argument is that the addition of extra batter did end
Speaker 3: up saving the Test match, but would you not argue
Speaker 3: that the lack of a bowler put us in that
Speaker 3: position in the first place. That's my main problem that
Speaker 3: the selection of the team has been very, very wrong,
Speaker 3: and my problem is with Gotham Gamire on that one. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: I was about to the very important point, you know,
Speaker 3: I was about to say that had it not been
Speaker 3: for Gumby India, would have been I'm sticking to.
Speaker 1: The yeah, you know, for for the bands, Yes, for
Speaker 1: the bands.
Speaker 3: And there's also a little bit of adamance in in
Speaker 3: the way the team management is picking the teams. Like
Speaker 3: you say that I will back Karun Iron and then
Speaker 3: you don't pick him job and then you come to
Speaker 3: the press conference and say we don't drop players. No, no,
Speaker 3: that that he stayed true to we don't drop players,
Speaker 3: which also means we don't pick players. So good night.
Speaker 3: Four test matches have happened on flat tracks. That are
Speaker 3: people are searching for that rough Jadejah last match was
Speaker 3: heavily criticized for not not looking for that when they
Speaker 3: could have done better. When when Sro told me that
Speaker 3: probably before the start of the series or after the
Speaker 3: end of the Botto Gascar Trophy, that Gambier comes to
Speaker 3: the press conference only when there is a favorable result, true,
Speaker 3: I thought, Okay, this might be a stretch, maybe sort
Speaker 3: of daily Capitals fan not liking great these things might
Speaker 3: have played a role. But yesterday I saw a drawn
Speaker 3: test for the first time. He walks up to the
Speaker 3: press and then he goes after everybody, somebody asks what
Speaker 3: what is the reason behind Superman Gill's form renewed form?
Speaker 3: He says, people who doubted Superman Guil didn't understand Creckat.
Speaker 3: Everybody doubted Superman Gil. Even the Great doubted Superman Gill.
Speaker 3: But Superann Gill numbers. He did not have the numbers.
Speaker 3: Insane agree, but you have to agree. Who creat what?
Speaker 1: One? Nothing? You know what?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 1: So this Test match?
Speaker 3: So the fourth Test match, second innings, the way size
Speaker 3: Shan got out. It screamed to me of that rubbish
Speaker 3: moment from Geoffrey Boycott, same dismissal, exact dismissive. It's not
Speaker 3: let's not you know, I don't know whether you justified
Speaker 3: Geoffrey Boycott.
Speaker 1: That was rubbish from Geoffrey Boycott. As a comm you
Speaker 1: can't say that about it. It's the moment of that thing.
Speaker 3: A back player by the coach with the similar technical
Speaker 3: difficulty is not getting dropped just because he got out
Speaker 3: in the same manner like even But you know, discourse again,
Speaker 3: in the discourse you have seeing the ball, why did
Speaker 3: you do all this?
Speaker 1: What the fuck is that all that?
Speaker 3: I didn't a young batter again, kar you say that Okay,
Speaker 3: three matches he's done. Everybody called for his say now
Speaker 3: people are saying no, everybody wanted to replace pressIt Chrish now.
Speaker 3: But when he does, he comes back probably with a nigle,
Speaker 3: doesn't bowl well in the first Test. No, not a niggle,
Speaker 3: not an egle. So they said that it almost felt
Speaker 3: like anshul Combole got down from the flight and got
Speaker 3: got into the team and they were confused as to
Speaker 3: does jet lag not have effect on players? And it
Speaker 3: was not an eight day breakwe there was, but when
Speaker 3: he came in he hit the net for two days
Speaker 3: and and came came to the side.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 3: It is a first test. We have seen some of
Speaker 3: the biggest player struggle in their first test. Of course,
Speaker 3: yes so and then again you're calling, oh, preussit might
Speaker 3: have done well and this this this like how we
Speaker 3: have a problem with England's moral posturing. The same problem
Speaker 3: I have will come yeah, same problem every single series.
Speaker 3: Quittes random bolt. Yesterday in the show, the postmatch show
Speaker 3: called Gumby out saying that you know it is He said,
Speaker 3: even even everybody doubted supermun Gill. It's not like even
Speaker 3: people who understood Tree it down at superann Gill. So
Speaker 3: that was over the top. He said, Chill, calm down
Speaker 3: a little bit in press conference. You don't have to
Speaker 3: be this confrontational when you're coming to the press conference.
Speaker 3: It's not like you're doing great on the field and
Speaker 3: then coming to you. It's despite you India two to
Speaker 3: one in this series despite you. Yeah, yeah, the selection
Speaker 3: has been horrible like you, like you pointed out, you
Speaker 3: picked six bowlers, six bowling options, and then you still
Speaker 3: conceded at seven hundred and you gave Chardt talk E
Speaker 3: eleven overs over. So the stat is basically that has
Speaker 3: played two Test matches bold a combined of twenty seven
Speaker 3: overs before Sharduo including this has bold total of twenty
Speaker 3: six overs. Then why are you picking that fourth simmer?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 3: It makes no sense. Add a spinner into the side
Speaker 3: and get done with it. And there was a very
Speaker 3: good point made by analyst Pressannas and like he said,
Speaker 3: stop looking at Washington Sounder and Revenge j Ja as
Speaker 3: regular one commodity spinners, they are half plus half when
Speaker 3: it comes to spinners.
Speaker 1: They good enough batters.
Speaker 3: Probably they can batter as specialist batters in eleven, especially
Speaker 3: when Risha punt is not going to be there for
Speaker 3: the fifth Test.
Speaker 1: Play cool deep as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the past Indian teams have one with spinners,
Speaker 3: three spinners. You you know, misionsing berries that fab the
Speaker 3: quartrait doing well in England. Yes, the pitches have changed,
Speaker 3: but if you are not going to trust shaddle talk,
Speaker 3: I think throughout the Test. Throughout the Test match their
Speaker 3: fourth Test, Ardo himself was voicing, Okay, I cannot help.
Speaker 3: If the captain doesn't give me overs, I can pick
Speaker 3: up wikets with full tosses.
Speaker 1: Give him twenty hours and see. It's not like Bumra was.
Speaker 3: Doing bowling very well and it's not like Siraj was
Speaker 3: bowling with control. I thought, if you had to start
Speaker 3: with majority wicket in Runji's are with the new ball, yes,
Speaker 3: give it to him. Yes, and he has the experience
Speaker 3: of controlling at England.
Speaker 1: Yeah, either you pick either you not picking.
Speaker 3: And if if we can figure these things out, so
Speaker 3: can the data analyst in the team. The question is
Speaker 3: what calls are being made by the man. Careers are
Speaker 3: being ruined, Whether Karuna will get another game you don't know,
Speaker 3: and Shull combouts you don't know.
Speaker 1: Harshetrana, you don't know. As in come back in England.
Speaker 3: He's getting eleven hours in the innings where you have
Speaker 3: the opposition of scoring seven hundred. It's not like the
Speaker 3: other bowlers were doing well Washington, soonder was introduced into
Speaker 3: the attack sixty after sixty eight overs, especially after he
Speaker 3: picked up four gets in lots. These these are some
Speaker 3: calls that are baffling. Asn't whether Suman takes it, whether
Speaker 3: Gilmi takes it.
Speaker 1: You are the head coach.
Speaker 3: You had the you probably had the power to say
Speaker 3: no to weret and you told them, okay, your Test
Speaker 3: careers are over. Although sixty eight over means two full sessions,
Speaker 3: so a meeting must have happened.
Speaker 1: Absolutely in the break.
Speaker 3: Things could have been said there, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: We don't know these things.
Speaker 4: And yes, exactly when I was watching the press conference,
Speaker 4: we went niche for a break after the end of play,
Speaker 4: so we listened to whatever he was said.
Speaker 1: And my first session was this.
Speaker 4: Looks like an Australian captain who had just won five
Speaker 4: World Cups the way he speaks. But then you go
Speaker 4: and check his track record as an Indian head coach
Speaker 4: in Test get so you won two matches against Manadesh
Speaker 4: lost three against Tuesdays at home. First time ever you
Speaker 4: got Vies was whitewatched. Then you went to Australia, won
Speaker 4: one Test match, one was drawn. You lost three there,
Speaker 4: so you lost. You lost six matches there. Now you
Speaker 4: lost two matches, so you lost eight matches and you
Speaker 4: won only four Test matches in the last one year
Speaker 4: as a head coach. But the way you talk, it
Speaker 4: looks like you are the greatest Test coach ever born.
Speaker 4: You won everywhere and whatever you do is God's voice.
Speaker 4: It can't be changed. Every time he comes out. We
Speaker 4: are playing for the common man. Got that crap, I've
Speaker 4: got that trap.
Speaker 1: Playing for the common man. Common doesn't watch cricket. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't have time to wak cricket. Okay, playing for
Speaker 1: b c.
Speaker 4: I you have that logo on your chest when you're
Speaker 4: playing for the Indian team and whenever you go out
Speaker 4: and play every Test match, you will see whenever a
Speaker 4: doss happens, Gil has to take out the name names
Speaker 4: of the place and we are like, oh my God.
Speaker 4: Again in the same mistake, where is cool deep?
Speaker 1: You have taken him. You're not playing, you're not even
Speaker 1: feeling him.
Speaker 4: In one Test match, a sleep sing was not played
Speaker 4: for the first three Test matches. He got injured in
Speaker 4: the photest match, saying yeah, sud.
Speaker 1: He's injured.
Speaker 4: So every decision that this guy has made you we
Speaker 4: have back. Then you have dropped him. Now you have
Speaker 4: back strize.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe he will get one more distance. He'll be dropped
Speaker 4: if he does not perform. So whatever he.
Speaker 3: Said, imagine sort of going to your father when he
Speaker 3: was when he was still in service, and then telling
Speaker 3: him when he was was rushing out for telling him,
Speaker 3: did you watch the match yesterday?
Speaker 1: They played for you?
Speaker 4: You have got a couple of So I made this
Speaker 4: joke to my mother and I told my mother's not well.
Speaker 1: She has a back pen because she fell.
Speaker 4: So she's like bullshit. They played for me. I can't
Speaker 4: even stand on my feet to watch him. What do
Speaker 4: you what do you mean by they played for me?
Speaker 3: Small person is terrible man.
Speaker 4: It's somebody whoever is the manager, whoever is the man
Speaker 4: who takes control of the pier, needs to tell him
Speaker 4: that you are no more the MP from the LEI.
Speaker 4: You are the coach of integracketing. Talk like a cricket expert.
Speaker 4: So I talk like the expert who was doing sure
Speaker 4: one year before.
Speaker 3: I saw I saw a tweet on social media during
Speaker 3: the when we were struggling in the with the ball
Speaker 3: in the Manchester test. Thank goodness, is not in the
Speaker 3: commentary box. He wouldn't have spared this team. Yes, that
Speaker 3: was the guy.
Speaker 1: You know, He wouldn't have spared this team. You have
Speaker 1: asked tough questions. But when you even journalists or not
Speaker 1: even asking tough questions that day.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, that's not because of the journalists previous
Speaker 3: test much. I don't was it previous testment. I'm not
Speaker 3: very sure. So the journalist goes on to ask something
Speaker 3: to gum be here and he shouts at him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he shouts at him, shuts down the question. If you
Speaker 3: want to be confrontational, I am one hundred percent sure
Speaker 3: that no journalist would in the press room would have
Speaker 3: a problem with that. But let them ask their questions
Speaker 3: and then you answer. You know, I think at the
Speaker 3: end of this Anderson Trophy, we should have Stokes and
Speaker 3: Gambier in the same press conference and have a moral
Speaker 3: posturing contest between both of them.
Speaker 1: We will win that, I think. No, I don't think
Speaker 1: he will win that he will shout, and he will shout.
Speaker 3: What if it's a draw and somebody loses morally that
Speaker 3: might happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I would have loved to see Gamber
Speaker 4: come out and talk when England has go six nine months,
Speaker 4: because then he and he sent then he sent India
Speaker 4: bowling coach Moner Marker and ESPs reporter Matt Rowler said it.
Speaker 4: He made a video and said, I think this has
Speaker 4: to be one of the longest press conferences I've ever seen.
Speaker 4: It was, Yeah, twenty twenty five minutes of press conference
Speaker 4: where everyone was shooting tough questions to Morning Marker and
Speaker 4: every after every listening to any question, Yeah, you're right,
Speaker 4: we have to answer it like this.
Speaker 3: And he was very kind to veryone that he was
Speaker 3: speaking to. This reminds me of Shunted from Pakistan. Every
Speaker 3: time they would lose, a would come to answer question.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe looking at the bowling performances of Indian team.
Speaker 4: Since has become the head coach, I think the post
Speaker 4: that Morning Michal has got is the post of bowling coach.
Speaker 4: But he's not doing the job as bowling coach. His
Speaker 4: job is to face the press when the team is
Speaker 4: losing that is what he's played for. I think because
Speaker 4: the bowlers are not doing well, but he's doing very well.
Speaker 4: In the press conference, he's coming, he's very kind to
Speaker 4: a reporter, He caters to everyone, He answers everyone very politely.
Speaker 1: I think there's a difference. They should decide his role first.
Speaker 3: Yeah, looking ahead, I said, like the fifth Test is
Speaker 3: just three days away, there's no turnaround time. How will
Speaker 3: the two teams approach it? Like do you see changes
Speaker 3: in Indian side? So let's start with India.
Speaker 1: I think definitely you have one four stain, there's no punk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're playing in is going to play.
Speaker 4: Because the poor lad has kept wicket for last two
Speaker 4: Test matches, not even bad one. Well, like it happened,
Speaker 4: it needs to happen now.
Speaker 1: But you never know, you never know. Yeah, we know
Speaker 1: with them here.
Speaker 4: But I will presume that if Roseel has been with
Speaker 4: this side for the entire series, he will get a
Speaker 4: chance in the last Test match.
Speaker 3: You mean like a human uish for un who has
Speaker 3: been carried for two years now.
Speaker 1: He's in the squad. Sorry.
Speaker 4: Apart from that, you have again questions on whether will
Speaker 4: play or not.
Speaker 1: What do you think should he play or not?
Speaker 4: Definitely should play, but he has said that he'll play
Speaker 4: only three Tests. I don't see again, I'm saying this
Speaker 4: when you know that this team has a chance to draw.
Speaker 1: The series and retain the trophy.
Speaker 4: Retain the trophy you won the series at home, play
Speaker 4: this Test match?
Speaker 1: Do not go? Do not play a home Test series?
Speaker 1: Why not? Because right now if you see.
Speaker 4: If you look at the Verklo management thing, even Sihar
Speaker 4: has played all four Test matches, so.
Speaker 1: You will also play the few Test match combos.
Speaker 4: I don't think he's getting the next stress after what
Speaker 4: happened with him in Manchester. Maybe an Acasto comes back,
Speaker 4: comes back. That's going to be there and I would
Speaker 4: love to see, as you said Kulipia though, playing the
Speaker 4: last Test as a spinner, because the Windza is as
Speaker 4: good as a batter, especially when you don't have a
Speaker 4: Risha Punk. You need Jadza to play solely as a batter.
Speaker 4: So bring in as a bowler who can actually like
Speaker 4: King stick Mention, who can actually exploit the rough patches
Speaker 4: on day four, day five wickets whenever.
Speaker 3: Even more than that, you know Deep as a bowler
Speaker 3: has those variations. You know he has those googlees, His
Speaker 3: action is still you know a little bit of mystery
Speaker 3: for these guys. When they go for those big shots,
Speaker 3: they will think twice right, Okay, I can hit Jeneja.
Speaker 1: I don't know with the spin, but can I do
Speaker 1: that with these are the questions.
Speaker 3: See Cold might not come and take a five wicket
Speaker 3: hauld Culdip might just maybe Ellekue runs one hundred runs
Speaker 3: for one wicket. But you should try these things right
Speaker 3: When will you then try Kuldip who has a mystery
Speaker 3: about his bowlying. He has built a reputation over the years.
Speaker 3: He has made these English batters dance at te in
Speaker 3: home conditions.
Speaker 1: Give him a go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you can give a hand a test abute,
Speaker 4: we're not even part of the playing level squad, you
Speaker 4: can give chance.
Speaker 3: More importantly, the existing setup is not working out exactly.
Speaker 3: They're scoring a lot of runs every single innings that
Speaker 3: they got to battle needs someone to take wickets from.
Speaker 1: The other end.
Speaker 3: On that Boomera point, it was Boomera's a workload in Australia,
Speaker 3: excessive or not? Yeah, he played four Tests. He bowl
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty one overs his and twenty was
Speaker 3: I think correct? In how many tests? Half tests. He
Speaker 3: did not bowl and a half tests. We are just
Speaker 3: thirty overs away both innings combined from another breakdown. Considering
Speaker 3: that one fifty one point two is the breakdown where
Speaker 3: Boomra's limit has been reached. We ideally don't want that
Speaker 3: even though there is a break or there is a series.
Speaker 3: See if you keep on, think another another back to play,
Speaker 3: another back in another stress fracture, and he's done. He's done,
Speaker 3: He's finished.
Speaker 1: You already don't what he will say. His body will
Speaker 1: say that.
Speaker 3: I think it's said. We saw we saw that in
Speaker 3: the last Test match. But then you was tired. If
Speaker 3: you had two days time feet up. True, you can
Speaker 3: expect Richa Pan to walk out with a fractured leg.
Speaker 3: Yeah he could. It could have been career threatening for him. Batters,
Speaker 3: you always say that it's a batter's game. I don't
Speaker 3: you see I yes, hats soft boom what he has done.
Speaker 3: But this, you know, work out management for he pointed
Speaker 3: out has been a work horse in the series fourth Test.
Speaker 3: I'm only saying that because I don't this is the
Speaker 3: mess up that is created. The absolutely this is the
Speaker 3: mess that this is the best started when he played
Speaker 3: two tests.
Speaker 1: In two tests agains, but did he play that?
Speaker 3: So it started there, So that is the So we
Speaker 3: have a history for his mistakes which has led us
Speaker 3: to this point in in the England series. My problem
Speaker 3: is that I think should not be playing at all.
Speaker 1: That poor Chap.
Speaker 3: Make him take a holiday, send him somewhere, give him
Speaker 3: one bloody vacation. He will have to lead that attack
Speaker 3: in the home series. Also, is not going to play.
Speaker 3: How do you know Bom might not play?
Speaker 1: Is not.
Speaker 3: Will tell you one hundred against But yeah, so who
Speaker 3: do we have left? Then his face fit questions We
Speaker 3: said all he does not know Jack that, but he
Speaker 3: has said it.
Speaker 1: He has confirmed that all.
Speaker 3: He also said that Corona will be back for the
Speaker 3: five Test matches.
Speaker 1: I agree with that.
Speaker 3: Still might have felt bad about what other failure is
Speaker 3: in the back of the team bus backed he might
Speaker 3: have plans for him in the home series. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 3: I will believe that. It doesn't believe that what happened.
Speaker 1: To after that's series against England, when is waiting at home.
Speaker 4: Chance I think carries over and when you must have
Speaker 4: seen that food that has gone weld, he and all
Speaker 4: talking it gave me wives of Ashnan. We're not Cooley
Speaker 4: talking in Australia, and then we hear Russiana has retired.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows making The.
Speaker 3: Problem is I understand the romance that you started with
Speaker 3: in that draw where you said that he draws are
Speaker 3: perhaps more romantic than generic wins in test create. I
Speaker 3: agree to that. My problem with this setup is that
Speaker 3: under gum here the two biggest celebrations that we have
Speaker 3: made is avoiding follow on in Australia and this drawing England.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why what have we come down to your You.
Speaker 3: Know, my biggest concern is the first time you have won,
Speaker 3: you have you know, actually had a batting unit that
Speaker 3: stood up, this young batting unit should be credited for
Speaker 3: what it has done, and then you you just blow
Speaker 3: it up, your one two down against an England bowling
Speaker 3: lineup that you know is like he said, though, could
Speaker 3: I seriously you know, if you if they would have
Speaker 3: been better served with James Anderson in the eleven Yeah, but
Speaker 3: at this stage James Rosen would have helped him pick
Speaker 3: more wickets in Manchester, That's what I'm saying. But maybe
Speaker 3: you would not have liked this pitch home. I think
Speaker 3: he was removed for his complaints about the pitch. Maybe
Speaker 3: you must have said Anderson. Yeah, Anderson could have probably
Speaker 3: had one or two more years in him, right, So
Speaker 3: for the what's your eleven for the Manchester your old
Speaker 3: test India? Yeah, I have no clue, man, I think
Speaker 3: I think we stick to the eleven that we have
Speaker 3: the only changes. I have no trust that will play either. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and hopefully I'm jinxing it so he plays. I think
Speaker 3: Boomera sits down, Deep comes in Mohammed sirage, I'm not
Speaker 3: very sure one of one. So I am wrestling Boomra
Speaker 3: to preserve and bring in a cash Deep and I
Speaker 3: don't know our Deep if he's fit instead of that's
Speaker 3: the all. I am one hundred person't sure that the
Speaker 3: rest of the team does not change. What about me?
Speaker 3: As like the batting United States jul and obviously choice choice,
Speaker 3: that's a force change. I'm not going to probably drop
Speaker 3: size does after this. He scored fifty in the first things.
Speaker 3: Give him another test. I think it should be for
Speaker 3: me after punt, after the jil it will be uh
Speaker 3: sooner Jadeja and plays off in place of Shardo or
Speaker 3: maybe play Chardo dep in.
Speaker 1: Place of An And then you have nine ten.
Speaker 3: What will you end up is why your coaches ego
Speaker 3: first stallings both Siraj and Muma breakdown absolutely are going
Speaker 3: with no one in the team. Now, I will play
Speaker 3: Boom both as deep in places of Shard and cool
Speaker 3: Deep in place of Anul. That's all that is mine.
Speaker 3: That's a lot of changes made. Change four changes.
Speaker 4: Three No, you removed Sar, he removed Anshul, he removed
Speaker 4: punt yeah three three okay, yeah, yeah fine.
Speaker 1: I think for the for the home series also, I'll
Speaker 1: play with this.
Speaker 3: I don't know where what Axce is going, how they're
Speaker 3: going to bring in ax Maybe they've forgotten him that
Speaker 3: he's a test cricketer that's good and all around and
Speaker 3: Washington Center if not better. I don't know what they're
Speaker 3: going to do with him, but if you go by
Speaker 3: the current aid, then Sooner and Jena play all the
Speaker 3: home tests. So I think Aer they have forgotten because
Speaker 3: they give him the tour run of Vice Captaincy in
Speaker 3: White Wall and then they've told him that test Washington.
Speaker 3: So there is my test guy. So that that overlap
Speaker 3: does not happen. You need to probably prepare him as
Speaker 3: for a post also, so you need to give him
Speaker 3: a deep I.
Speaker 1: Don't know you has to become a batter to get
Speaker 1: a spot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the next time when you meet, the series
Speaker 4: might have been decided. Yeah, series would have been decided
Speaker 4: to have been decided. Whether it's two one two, one
Speaker 4: two two or three one three reels possible.
Speaker 3: So what are your predictions, see Gumby, I'm just pleading
Speaker 3: get the team combination right. Give boomra if you're playing
Speaker 3: boom could support a good attacking wicked taking options who
Speaker 3: can you know?
Speaker 1: Uh to some something?
Speaker 3: Don't just rely on Boomera or bust and then this
Speaker 3: England side is beatable. Espe Actually with the mental age
Speaker 3: with you now, I hope Gil and the rest of
Speaker 3: the team. Stokes might not Pokes, Spokes Stokes.
Speaker 1: He's gonna play Stokes, he.
Speaker 4: Might not, might not, but he will plays going to play.
Speaker 3: This is gonna play. Yeah, what is your predictions?
Speaker 1: And very very confused.
Speaker 4: But by the looks of it, whatever happened on day five,
Speaker 4: Ben Stokes must be riled up as much as socisty is.
Speaker 4: If his body allows, If his body allows, he will
Speaker 4: surely look to turn the Test match again on his
Speaker 4: own bowling and feeling and batting. But considering whatever has
Speaker 4: happened with his Indian team, I would hope there would
Speaker 4: be some since in our coaching staff, they will pick
Speaker 4: the right eleven and for once we will show England
Speaker 4: that they're all. This hype of baseball is again a
Speaker 4: crap because this young Indian side has come and drawn
Speaker 4: a Test series. So I'm backing this Indian deean to
Speaker 4: draw a Test series.
Speaker 1: Two to you, let's finish with you.
Speaker 3: For me, the question is not what the result is.
Speaker 3: What I want from this series, Let's shake, cancel, let's finish.
Speaker 3: What I want is gummy out. I'm gonna be very
Speaker 3: blunt about it. Okay, what I want is gum be
Speaker 3: out because I don't want to suffer another home series
Speaker 3: and then go to the World Cup Boomra is not playing.
Speaker 3: I don't want to all that jack just by that logic,
Speaker 3: I want to draw or a loss draw for my
Speaker 3: sex at least I don't have to see and then
Speaker 3: says I'm.
Speaker 1: Not coaching anymore, will be sacked. Will have to be
Speaker 1: sacked for him to if.
Speaker 3: You give him a chance a test coach as a
Speaker 3: white ball especially see I think Gambi is of the
Speaker 3: same mold as Uli.
Speaker 4: So will either be the head coach of all formats
Speaker 4: or he will not be the head coach of any format.
Speaker 4: He will be he is the guy he's like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, you don't want me to coach in tests,
Speaker 4: I'll not coaching audience.
Speaker 1: Bring go and find a new.
Speaker 3: Twenty white ball is a little easier, I think, because
Speaker 3: you are getting finished products from ipl so where you
Speaker 3: have to actually like build someone up play in different
Speaker 3: conditions on different balls. Gumbiir hasn't delivered at all, and
Speaker 3: plus has that arrogance that I am right. You might
Speaker 3: be right, but it's not showing. So stop shouting at
Speaker 3: other people who are asking you questions. Shout at yourself.
Speaker 3: Go in front of the mirror, take a hard look,
Speaker 3: and then ask yourself, what is the result that I
Speaker 3: have served over the last one year period? How many
Speaker 3: test matches have I won? And how have I won them?
Speaker 3: Go ask that first. I'm doing everything for the common man,
Speaker 3: So let's ask the common man what their thoughts are
Speaker 3: about the Manchester drama that ensured whether Penstokes was you know, frustrated,
Speaker 3: was right in doing what he did, and also the
Speaker 3: big question about whether Gotha Mumbie should continue regardless of
Speaker 3: the result. In the fifth and final test of this
Speaker 3: well for Anderson Telecotrophy, you can send in your thoughts
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