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<v Speaker 1>All right, this is Colonel Grat Newsham, the author of

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<v Speaker 1>When China A Warning to America, and you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the Doctor Sky Experience on Talk Radio seventy seven WABC.

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome back to our radio program here. I'm Steve Gates,

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Sky. Welcoming you and yours to the Doctor Sky Experience,

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<v Speaker 2>Our normal content is from the realms of astronomy, space,

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<v Speaker 2>A very exceptional guest today in a few moments, will

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<v Speaker 2>be introducing Colonel Grant Newsham, his brand new regnary book

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<v Speaker 2>entitled When China Attacks A Warning to America. Is so

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<v Speaker 2>apropos today, as if you check the local news and

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<v Speaker 2>national and world news, China is in the front of

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<v Speaker 2>the headlines with the China and Taiwan situation. A little

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<v Speaker 2>backstory on the book, First China is Attacking, Colonel Grant

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<v Speaker 2>Newsham outlines what America must do to fight back, how

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<v Speaker 2>meanish China wants to replace. The United States is the

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<v Speaker 2>world's leading superpower, and the looming feeling of attack is

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<v Speaker 2>on the mine of Americans everywhere. In When China attacks

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<v Speaker 2>a warning to America, Colonel Grant Newsham uses his military

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<v Speaker 2>and China expertise to provide a well founded, blow by

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<v Speaker 2>blow account of that's what China is capable of what

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<v Speaker 2>our nation must do to stop the CCP. Drawing from

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<v Speaker 2>intelligent experiences from his forty year career in the Marine

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<v Speaker 2>Marine Corps and Sleep Department, Colonel Grant Newsham delivers a

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<v Speaker 2>stark warning about America's impending war with China. Little brief

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<v Speaker 2>background on our special guest. Colonel Grant Newsham, a retired

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<v Speaker 2>US Marine, served in the Indo Pacific for decades, including

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<v Speaker 2>an intelligence and liaison rolls, and was instrumental in establishing

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<v Speaker 2>Japan's Amphibious Force. As a US Foreign Service officer, he

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<v Speaker 2>covered a number of regions, including East and South Asia,

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<v Speaker 2>and specialized in insurgency, counterinsurgency, and commercial matters. Colonel Newsham

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<v Speaker 2>is an expert on political warfare, commercial espionage, an Asian

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<v Speaker 2>organized crime, an attorney. He lived in Tokyo for more

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<v Speaker 2>than twenty years working for an investment bank in the

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<v Speaker 2>high tech industry. A hearty welcome to Lieutenantive to Colonel

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<v Speaker 2>Grant Newsham on the Doctor Sky experience. Colonel, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for spending time with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my pleasure. I appreciate the invitation.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, sir. This book is outstanding and it goes

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<v Speaker 2>to the top, of course, of our bookshelf to recommend

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<v Speaker 2>to what's really going on behind the news. Talk a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about this book and the necessity. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's so appropriate. I mean, just look at the news

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<v Speaker 2>around the world today as we're doing this interview toward

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<v Speaker 2>the mid portion of April twenty twenty three. It couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be more timely, right, sir, Oh, not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I should send a thank you note to Beijing, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>for having sent that balloon over the United States. There

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<v Speaker 1>must have been a lot of people who looked up

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<v Speaker 1>at the Chinese spy balloon and wondered, well, what is

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<v Speaker 1>going on? What's the deal with China? Well, my book

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<v Speaker 1>actually explains a lot of that, talks about a war

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<v Speaker 1>which China has been waging against us for at least

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<v Speaker 1>three decades, to talk about how they're fighting it, what

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<v Speaker 1>damage has been done, what happens if we lose, and

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<v Speaker 1>I also give some ideas of how to win. But

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<v Speaker 1>China very much has been attacking us on a number

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<v Speaker 1>of fronts, as I said, for decades, and they consider

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<v Speaker 1>it war. Unfortunately, the United States does not consider what

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese are doing and have been doing to the

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<v Speaker 1>war works to China's advantage. It has put us in

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<v Speaker 1>a difficult position.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, well, colonel, you say it so well. And in

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty chapters they're in this book. Once again, I

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<v Speaker 2>recommend everybody within the sound of this particular particular radio

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<v Speaker 2>show and podcast, the Doctor Sky Experience, that they quickly

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<v Speaker 2>get a copy of this and learn so much more.

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<v Speaker 2>As we're talking around here in the timeframe of mid

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<v Speaker 2>April twenty twenty three, we see that maybe a standoff

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<v Speaker 2>between the United States military, the United States Navy, and

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<v Speaker 2>the communist Chinese forces over Taiwan if you could explain

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<v Speaker 2>to this audience. You go into some great detail about

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<v Speaker 2>describing various phases of warfare. You describe something called entropic

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<v Speaker 2>warfare and kinetic warfare. Please explain that to our audience,

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<v Speaker 2>because we're getting an education today here on the sky experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, sure, I'll be glad to you know. The one

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<v Speaker 1>way to look at this is, you know, to consider

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<v Speaker 1>how the Americans how we tend to look at war,

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<v Speaker 1>and we look at it as something like one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yard dash, where the competitors get to the start line

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<v Speaker 1>and they stretch out, and then they get in their

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<v Speaker 1>crouch and then somebody shoots a gun and says go.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the case of war, we look at it

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<v Speaker 1>only once the shooting has started, and before that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't look at it as war. We require actual shooting

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<v Speaker 1>to have begun, and then we take it seriously. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese don't see it that way. They look at

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<v Speaker 1>it as a continuum, as a spectrum of activities, and

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<v Speaker 1>they've been doing things for decades. The economic warfare, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>getting us to move so much of our manufacturing industry

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<v Speaker 1>and other industries into China, handing over technology, letting the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of it be stolen, of course, and that has

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<v Speaker 1>built up China's economy, built up to help them build

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<v Speaker 1>up their military and the processes well, and it's weakened

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<v Speaker 1>us to China. That is very much a battlefield biological warfare.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, one can argue about exactly where COVID came from,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think there's little doubt that once it was

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<v Speaker 1>out from China that they at least opportunistically heeded the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the world with it, and that just brought

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<v Speaker 1>the United States to a halt. And that was an

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<v Speaker 1>immensely successful sort of active war by the Chinese. Another

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<v Speaker 1>one chemical warfare. The Chinese will refer to the drug

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<v Speaker 1>warfare talking about say that particularly the fentanyl scourge which

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<v Speaker 1>killed almost seventy thousand Americans last year, and most of

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<v Speaker 1>that comes from China trying to claims it just can't

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<v Speaker 1>do anything about it because it can't find who's doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Americans have taken, unfortunately, have taken them at

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<v Speaker 1>their word instead of recognizing that this is an incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>effective attack on the United States. You think of all

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<v Speaker 1>the damage that has done. So there's cyber warfare, what

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<v Speaker 1>I call proxy warfare is buying off the elite in

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<v Speaker 1>your enemy. The Chinese has done that very well financial warfare,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to displace the US dollar a week in the

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<v Speaker 1>US dollar. Not that Congress isn't helping them with that

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<v Speaker 1>without a control spending. But those are battlefronts that we

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<v Speaker 1>have been under attack on for a long time now.

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<v Speaker 1>But as I said, this doesn't appear to the Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>to be something we're responding to. To us, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that the war has actually started. So the Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>will actually look at the so called kinetic warfare, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the modern word for what really means just a

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<v Speaker 1>shooting war. So they look at that as almost the

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<v Speaker 1>last step. You know, if you've softened up your enemy,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got him weakend, you confused him, you've caused enough harm,

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<v Speaker 1>but he either cannot respond or cannot respond effectively. And

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<v Speaker 1>that is a very different way of looking at warfare

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<v Speaker 1>compared to ours. And I use the expression you've mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>it entropic warfare, And what that really means is you

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<v Speaker 1>get your enemy in such a state of confusion that

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<v Speaker 1>he is destroying himself and he is not able to

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<v Speaker 1>resist your domination.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and you don't even have to fire a shot.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's so amazing. It's like a cancer that spreads,

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<v Speaker 2>and you say it so well. Here, I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to remind our listeners you're not listening to the Doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Sky experience. Here. Our producer is Richard Dugan on the

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<v Speaker 2>Great Talk Radio seventy seven WABC out of New York.

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<v Speaker 2>We call it the Crown Jewel of Radio. Our special

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<v Speaker 2>guest is Colonel Grant Nusham. And this book, Ladies and Gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 2>really knocks it out of the park as far as

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<v Speaker 2>what's really happening with China what we need to know.

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<v Speaker 2>The book when China attacks a warning to America. Sadly,

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<v Speaker 2>sir Colonel, you describe something that's been going on for

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<v Speaker 2>such a long time. You make the analogy of Baltimore, Maryland,

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<v Speaker 2>and what it was once and what it is now.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell the listeners a little bit more about how this

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<v Speaker 2>is all connected to the master plan that the Chinese

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<v Speaker 2>Communist Party is now evolving in front of our eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I used Baltimore as an example, but it could

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<v Speaker 1>have been a number of other American cities that once

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<v Speaker 1>we're thriving societies, thriving neighborhoods, and now there are war

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<v Speaker 1>zones at best actually gives war zone would actually be better

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<v Speaker 1>in some respects. But what this is the result is

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<v Speaker 1>there's a few things at work. One is i would

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<v Speaker 1>say very successful Chinese economic warfare, and that was convincing

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<v Speaker 1>America's financial class, it's business class, and too many of

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<v Speaker 1>the political class, that China had to be allowed into

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<v Speaker 1>the World Trade Organization despite meeting none of the requirement.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a promise of sorts that they would eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>but after twenty plus years they haven't met them at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But that really allowed it gave the excuse for so

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<v Speaker 1>much of American industry to move into China. Just gutted

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<v Speaker 1>American societies. And when you take the jobs away, these decent,

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<v Speaker 1>well paying jobs that generations had managed to live on

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<v Speaker 1>and done very nicely, take that away, and then you've

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<v Speaker 1>opened it up for chemical warfare, the drug war absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>susceptible to it just happens to be fentanyl. Now it'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably turn into something else before too long. You have

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<v Speaker 1>actually also you have created a dependency, a constituency in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States that thinks that it absolutely has to

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<v Speaker 1>be doing business with China. It cannot do anything to

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<v Speaker 1>upset that relationship, and that is effective psychological warfare. So

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<v Speaker 1>you can see how these tie in with each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and you see the effect that it has had on

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<v Speaker 1>our military where so many people are either unable to

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<v Speaker 1>join because they don't meet the standards they've got the

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<v Speaker 1>drug history, or when seventy and people, many of them

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<v Speaker 1>young people, are dying every year from fentanyl. Well that's

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<v Speaker 1>taking a couple divisions off the battlefield. So you can say,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, you can see how these different types

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<v Speaker 1>of warfare all tie into each other and they can

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<v Speaker 1>be mutually reinforce it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you make a good point, sir, in your book,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wanted not to steal from the chapter, but

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<v Speaker 2>of course people should get a copy of it and

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<v Speaker 2>read it from cover to cover, all four hundred pages.

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<v Speaker 2>But you describe this, and I believe it's very accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>Only twenty three percent of those that would mean necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>be inducted into the military can actually pass not only

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<v Speaker 2>the litmus test from criminal backgrounds, but drug abuse and

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<v Speaker 2>mental issues. That's a very sad state of affairs today

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<v Speaker 2>when we once had a draft in this country. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>wants war. But am I at least accurate in quoting

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<v Speaker 2>what you say in the book about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's probably even worse than worse than I stated,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just amazing that a country of three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty million people cannot meet the sort of recruitment target.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's an aspect of that that it goes beyond

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<v Speaker 1>just the physical part, but also there's a sense that

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<v Speaker 1>the America is not the country worth defending, that America

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<v Speaker 1>that that has an effect on recruitment as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Colonel bellows to talk about in the short time that

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<v Speaker 2>we have here, But I'd like you to define the

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<v Speaker 2>meaning of the Chinese word tien shah as you put

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<v Speaker 2>in the book. As we know, the translation means all

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<v Speaker 2>under heaven. But is that accurate in my statement of saying,

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<v Speaker 2>if I put it this way, that that's their global

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<v Speaker 2>domination concept, that what all of China is all under

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<v Speaker 2>heaven and that's the whole policy that they believe theirs

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<v Speaker 2>is theirs and they should go out and grab it right.

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<v Speaker 1>It very much is one way to look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is you think of how we used to always assume

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, America's number one, that our system is

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<v Speaker 1>the world should be run under. Is just a given,

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<v Speaker 1>something you eternalize. And for the communist Chinese it's similar,

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<v Speaker 1>but they've also used it, I say, for less altruistic purposes.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea is domination, complete domination, not any sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a mutually beneficial coexistence. But the idea is to dominate

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<v Speaker 1>every other country. And it doesn't necessarily mean physically occupy

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<v Speaker 1>them or to peep them at war, but to dominate.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is what they've set out to do, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's and I must say that they've had some success

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<v Speaker 1>at it. If you look at Latin America Africa, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>the commercial inroads they have made with political influence, often

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<v Speaker 1>greased with bribes and under table, under the table payments

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get the attention it should, but they are well

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<v Speaker 1>on their way to establishing a global presence and ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding us. When you actually look at where the Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>have made their inroad, it does indeed look like they

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<v Speaker 1>have global domination in mind. They have in effect said

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<v Speaker 1>as much all you have to do is read what

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<v Speaker 1>Siji Ping has said, and even his predecessors they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>exactly nice guys either, But just look at what Ashiji

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<v Speaker 1>Ping is on record as having said, and the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of Chinese global domination. It may have seemed preposterous twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, but it really should be taken very seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>The Chinese telegraph their punches and we should know what's coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Colonel, this is fascinating here on the Doctor Sky

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<v Speaker 2>experience today. So many questions to ask in so limited time,

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<v Speaker 2>at least in this interview, and I always recommend, if

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay by our guest, to come back at a

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<v Speaker 2>future time too to talk more in the details of

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening in the world, particularly with the China and

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<v Speaker 2>the Communist Chinese Party. But their goal for world domination

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<v Speaker 2>is sir, and the word Tien Shah, as we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about and translated I believe to all under heaven. Is

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<v Speaker 2>it possible because they are one of the most populated

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<v Speaker 2>nations on the earth that the German concept of something

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<v Speaker 2>called leiben Schrom which means living space also kind of

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<v Speaker 2>counters into this or plays a part of this. Simply

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<v Speaker 2>what they have so many people in such a small area.

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't it make sense that they want this not only

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<v Speaker 2>for the economic the military side of the equation, the

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<v Speaker 2>power that they could possess, but they want more places

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<v Speaker 2>for their people to live. Is that a simple way

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<v Speaker 2>of looking at that concept of leibenschrom for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I would note Australia, it's been said, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>been cases where Chinese officials have noted that, well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of space in Australia, there's not many people.

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<v Speaker 1>It would go very nicely for China. There is very

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<v Speaker 1>much an aspect of that there is a surplus population

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<v Speaker 1>for now that they like to keep busy for obvious reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>And well, with that word leavinsam as a very negative

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<v Speaker 1>connotation because of it being coined by Adolf Hitler. Unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>it does still apply here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very interesting story. You know, there was a

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<v Speaker 2>secret speech I guess not so secret now, and I

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<v Speaker 2>hope I pronounce it right by a general Chi Ho

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<v Speaker 2>Chion back in two thousand and five. And I encourage people,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure, sir, you're a wealth of knowledge on this

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<v Speaker 2>particular speech, which basically goes into the story I guess

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't want it to pop out, but the Epoch Times,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, got a copy of this. It talks about

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<v Speaker 2>how they want to do this plan for world global

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<v Speaker 2>domination and how they would treat those that are not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily on their side, just like what Mao did to

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<v Speaker 2>so many of the people. Are you very familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>that speech and if you would comment on it. It

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<v Speaker 2>simply describes a plan for more details on global domination

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<v Speaker 2>by the Chinese Communist Party.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it makes your blood run cold when you

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<v Speaker 1>read these things, not least because they're still doing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the plans are still there. It really can't be just excused.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just one extremist talking and that system. Extremists don't

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<v Speaker 1>last very long if they don't have government approval. It's

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<v Speaker 1>known that there is a list being made of, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>Taiwanese who are considered not friendly enough to China or

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<v Speaker 1>have supposedly advocated independence, and it's a kill liss for

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<v Speaker 1>when the time comes, and it's not as if Taiwan

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<v Speaker 1>is the only place such a thing exists. Tenders do

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<v Speaker 1>keep the Communists do keep a very good track of

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<v Speaker 1>who their friends are and who their friends are not.

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<v Speaker 1>But these sorts of statements that get leaked out every

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<v Speaker 1>once in a while, and even ones that get written

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<v Speaker 1>in China, they get published, but they're in Chinese, so

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<v Speaker 1>Americans tend not to and foreigners tend not to notice them.

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<v Speaker 1>That these sorts of things give us a very clear

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<v Speaker 1>sense of what is coming if we do come under

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese domination, and that's really something we have not experienced

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<v Speaker 1>far and awfully a long time. I think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>few people alive today who can quite conceive of the

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<v Speaker 1>threat that the Chinese Communist Party poses to us.

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<v Speaker 2>Colonel I guess I'm being simplistic when I asked this question.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I would have an answer, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a military person. I served the United States Army, but

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<v Speaker 2>not at the level that you did, sir, and I

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<v Speaker 2>salute you for your service and all others. My gvice.

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<v Speaker 2>A concern is this when you look at China and

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<v Speaker 2>you look at what their military was, and you now

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<v Speaker 2>see and I'm going to ask you, in a little

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<v Speaker 2>more into depth of this interview to talk about their

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<v Speaker 2>current strength. Let's talk a little bit about that military,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's talk a little bit about why in this

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<v Speaker 2>country I guess the most simplistic question you've probably gotten

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<v Speaker 2>from all these different interviews, many of which I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>are very very positive on this subject, why in the hell,

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<v Speaker 2>and I say it so simply, is this government not

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<v Speaker 2>paying attention to this. It's almost like reliction of duty,

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<v Speaker 2>or if I even go to an extreme term, treason.

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<v Speaker 2>What the heck is going on here that to me,

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<v Speaker 2>even I think a seven year old would think that

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<v Speaker 2>this is insane not to stop it or do something

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it is even it's even worse that we have

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<v Speaker 1>effectively funded the growth of the Chinese military. The Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>currency is not freely convertible, which means that nobody outside

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<v Speaker 1>China much wants it. So if the Chinese want to

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<v Speaker 1>buy stay Australian iron ores to make steal to build

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<v Speaker 1>navy ships, have to pay for it in something like dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street and the business class have made sure that

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<v Speaker 1>they have had all the money they need to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for this. So that is one aspect of this infanity

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<v Speaker 1>that has gotten us into this fix. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>find that excessive administration until the Trump administration, all thought

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<v Speaker 1>that China could be made nicer with just a little

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<v Speaker 1>more accommodation and ignoring the their aggressive their aggressive behavior,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just crazy. And I think the lots that does

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<v Speaker 1>track down to come back to money, that when you

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<v Speaker 1>can get the influential financial business classes, the donor classes

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<v Speaker 1>that have political influence, get them to think that they

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<v Speaker 1>are making a ton of money in China or wills

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<v Speaker 1>one day that you have effectively handcuffed your main enemy.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what the Chinese referred to us as is

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<v Speaker 1>the main enemy. And the military, the US military was

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<v Speaker 1>not immune to this at all. Too many of the

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<v Speaker 1>senior leaders saw that the way to get ahead was

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<v Speaker 1>to mirror that thinking that they saw in the business class,

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<v Speaker 1>they thought in administrations, they thought in the White House,

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<v Speaker 1>and just insists that China was not a threat. In

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<v Speaker 1>around two thousand and ninety nine, for example, then the

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<v Speaker 1>head of a commander of Pacific commands of all US

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<v Speaker 1>forces in the Pacific, he was visiting China and he

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<v Speaker 1>was asked about the possibility of Chinese aircraft carriers and

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<v Speaker 1>he said he saw nothing wrong with that and would

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<v Speaker 1>be glad to help China developed them to as much

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<v Speaker 1>as he could. And that was the thinking. So really

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<v Speaker 1>until about twenty seventeen, even the US military in it,

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<v Speaker 1>you could not say that China was even an adversary

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<v Speaker 1>or you would be in trouble. So the entire nation

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<v Speaker 1>or the parts of it that have too much influence

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<v Speaker 1>kind of went insane. And really, we built up this

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<v Speaker 1>enemy that would cause us no end of trouble if

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<v Speaker 1>they'd choose their spots in the time of attack.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, amazing, Colonel, About a decade ago, or maybe even

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<v Speaker 2>a generation ago, which I think we talk about twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five years, the Chinese Communist Party and the military, their

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<v Speaker 2>military did not have from reading in your book, I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted you to corroborate and expand the ability to project

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<v Speaker 2>their power beyond let's say their own nation state, and

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<v Speaker 2>obviously the Taiwan situation only ninety miles away, there's obviously

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<v Speaker 2>a whole change of foot here with China today. So

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<v Speaker 2>describe them then and what is their capability right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Is we want to talk a little bit more before

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<v Speaker 2>I get to the ultimate stuff about what could happen here.

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<v Speaker 2>Very sadly, as the Communist Chinese military and the Communist

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese Party tries to take back to ii Wan, describe that, well,

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<v Speaker 1>They really have the ability to throw their weight around

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<v Speaker 1>big time, to use the technical word, close to China.

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<v Speaker 1>But once they get too far beyond China's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>near maritime boundaries or get too far away from China,

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<v Speaker 1>that ability drops off pretty quickly. So China would have

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<v Speaker 1>a very hard time defending says sea lanes of communication

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<v Speaker 1>of the transport. And it does depend on food imports,

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<v Speaker 1>energy imports to take care of its need. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>produce anywhere near what it needs, so it is vulnerable

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<v Speaker 1>if a fight is if you expand the battlefield. But

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<v Speaker 1>if it's a fight close to China, certainly Taiwan is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty close to China that they could cause us a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of trouble. You know, one example, when US ships

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<v Speaker 1>go into the South China Sea that yes, they can

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<v Speaker 1>go in there, but China also shadows the Chinese navy

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<v Speaker 1>shadows them and could probably put in at least ten

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<v Speaker 1>ships for everyone the US Navy can send into the

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<v Speaker 1>South China Sea. Plus you have land based missile batteries,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. That would make it a very long afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>for the US Navy presence in the South China Sea.

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<v Speaker 1>But as I said, you expand the battlefield and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that capability yet for global operation, but that's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>They intend to do it, and I would suggest that

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<v Speaker 1>within five years they could have something pretty interesting. Going

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, they if on current trends, that the Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>military will be operating globally. They're in fact setting up

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<v Speaker 1>the infrastructure to do that under commercial guys, with a

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<v Speaker 1>ports and airfield that they've been funding in Latin America, Africa,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. Caribbean. They even have Chinese companies on both

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<v Speaker 1>ends of the Panama Canal and these are duly use

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<v Speaker 1>facilities and when the time comes, we will see the

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<v Speaker 1>People's Liberation Army operating from these. Their military is building

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<v Speaker 1>up at such a rate that they will have the

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<v Speaker 1>hardware and the manpower to be able to they operate globally.

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<v Speaker 1>It used to be just us that could do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Within a decade, I think it will be the Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>giving us a real run for money globally regionally. That

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<v Speaker 1>will probably happen within five years now.

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<v Speaker 2>You say it so well in your book, And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to conclude this interview just quite yet, and

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<v Speaker 2>I quote your words, we don't have much time left

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<v Speaker 2>end quote, And it's really serious. I mean, people listening

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<v Speaker 2>to this interview here as we conduct the Doctor Sky

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<v Speaker 2>Experience on the Great Talk Radio seventy seven ABC, the

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<v Speaker 2>crown Jewel of radio, and we talk about truth justice

435
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<v Speaker 2>in the American way, also like they do on many

436
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<v Speaker 2>of their shows, taking a break from our normal science

437
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<v Speaker 2>topics of astronomy, space, aviation, and weather. But Colonel this

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<v Speaker 2>is interesting because right now, as we're doing this in

439
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<v Speaker 2>April of twenty twenty three, hopefully cooler heads prevail, but

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<v Speaker 2>give us a little analysis of how close the hair

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<v Speaker 2>trigger might get to be pulled in what's really going

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<v Speaker 2>on right now? I mean, obviously we're probably not getting

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<v Speaker 2>all the correct information, but I understand one of our

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<v Speaker 2>battle groups, maybe the United States, the USS Knibbits is

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<v Speaker 2>in there, one of our great aircraft carriers describe what's

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<v Speaker 2>really going on right now as we're talking in April.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what we're seeing is the Chinese military, the People's

448
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<v Speaker 1>Liberation Army, going through a systematic build up capabilities to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to attack Taiwan and think that they could succeed.

450
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<v Speaker 1>We've got a first glimpse of this in August twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two with the missile exercises. The bracketed Taiwan landed

452
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<v Speaker 1>in Japanese territory to and now what we're seeing is

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<v Speaker 1>more air and naval coordination practicing. And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>next thing we're going to stay in fall will be

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<v Speaker 1>a landing exercise. And think of it as a baseball team.

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<v Speaker 1>It's spring training, where the outfielders do their things, the

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<v Speaker 1>infielders do theirs, the pitchers and the catchers workout, and

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<v Speaker 1>then at some point it all comes together. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>just about at the point where it all comes together

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<v Speaker 1>for the PLA. And I would suggest that by the

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<v Speaker 1>end of this year that teaching pay will think that

462
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<v Speaker 1>his military is ready to go. But what they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to look at, I think, is the presidential election that's

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<v Speaker 1>coming up in Taiwan in January twenty twenty four. If

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<v Speaker 1>a pro PRC candidate wins, I think China might back

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<v Speaker 1>off and expect that guy to bring Taiwan into China's

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<v Speaker 1>embrace without fire. But if a candidate from the other

468
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<v Speaker 1>party then wants nothing to do with Chinese enslavement wins,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the gloves come off, and I think at

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<v Speaker 1>any point after that that shooting war is likely a

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<v Speaker 1>lot will depend on Chinese calculation of American military capability

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<v Speaker 1>to respond quickly and effectively and not take say weeks

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<v Speaker 1>or months to build up and respond. But it has

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<v Speaker 1>to be quickly. They'll assess that, but they also will

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<v Speaker 1>look at the state of affairs in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>and also they will take the measure of whoever is

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<v Speaker 1>in the White House. And because the US really is

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<v Speaker 1>the one power that can defend Taiwan, can obstruct Chinese

479
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<v Speaker 1>plans for regional and then global domination. So the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of will have I think the military capability in just

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<v Speaker 1>a few months to think that they have a very

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<v Speaker 1>good chance of taking Taiwan, and then they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do the political calculations at the same time and sort

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<v Speaker 1>of before making a go decision. Well, that's how close

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<v Speaker 1>we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Very scary. I mean, what you're predicting here and let's

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<v Speaker 2>hope it's not the case. But the actual shoot is.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why we get great guests like yourself. But can

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<v Speaker 2>you define what is from your knowledge base? And it's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty extensive from what we're hearing, what is the official

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<v Speaker 2>policy of the United States to defend Taiwan? At this point,

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<v Speaker 2>we keep hearing President Biden say things and gets kind

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<v Speaker 2>of rebuffed by his press team there that he's saying, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we will come to the aid of Taiwan. Is there

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<v Speaker 2>an official doctrine that we know or you know about

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<v Speaker 2>that we can make these listeners of this show feel

497
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<v Speaker 2>a little more confident that we would defend a freedom

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<v Speaker 2>and democracy loving country.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm pretty sure that the US military has plans

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<v Speaker 1>in place. In fact, I would bet a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>them that they do to do their best to defend

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<v Speaker 1>Taiwan if given the order. But it does them down

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<v Speaker 1>to the administration and this last administration with mister Trump's

504
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<v Speaker 1>there were people in it, Mike Pompeo, Matt pottingerde stillwell, Miles, you,

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Navarro. The Chinese absolutely hated them and they were

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<v Speaker 1>afraid of them. But this one, I don't say this

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<v Speaker 1>with any pleasure at all, because everyone wants us to succeed.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know who it is in this administration

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<v Speaker 1>that scares them. Sometimes, you know, they some good things

510
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<v Speaker 1>are said about taking on the Chinese or the Chinese communists,

511
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<v Speaker 1>and also there's been some good moves to say restrict

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<v Speaker 1>semiconductor exports and some technology exports, to the PRC. But

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<v Speaker 1>then again, at the same time, we will allow Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>companies to list on US exchanges and earn and raise

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<v Speaker 1>the capital they need to build up the military. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost a schizophrenic approach towards the PRC. The short

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<v Speaker 1>answer is, if we have doubts about what the Americans

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<v Speaker 1>would do, well, one imagines dej does as well. And

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't require us to change our policy of strategic ambiguity,

520
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<v Speaker 1>which is that unofficial US policy for decades that says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we might defend Taiwan or we might not. So in effect,

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel lucky China. Well, when the PRC was

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a military, that was all that good. You

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<v Speaker 1>could get away with that. But these days you have

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<v Speaker 1>got to make it very clear that if Ciji thing

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<v Speaker 1>does make a move, he is going to lose everything. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure that we have put that fear in

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese, so I think they might look at it

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<v Speaker 1>and when they consider the state of affairs in the

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<v Speaker 1>US that they just might think it's worth a trying.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh thank you. We're going to hear a little excerpt

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<v Speaker 2>from what the retired General Jack Keane has said on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox News and we play that in concordance with what

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about about a warning that should be very

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<v Speaker 2>much paid attention to here, because, as you describe it,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have much time.

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<v Speaker 1>Love.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's bring in retired for Star General Jack Keene, former

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<v Speaker 3>Army Vice chair of Staff, chairman of the Institute for

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<v Speaker 3>the Study of War, and a Fox News senior strategic analyst.

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<v Speaker 4>General, it's always great to have you on.

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<v Speaker 3>We hear a lot of talk about General Mike Minahan

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<v Speaker 3>saying the US will be at war with China by

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty five. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin says, No, in

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<v Speaker 3>your case, General, you don't think it's as much about

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<v Speaker 3>timing as as how important it is having an effective

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<v Speaker 3>military deterrence, which right now we don't have.

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<v Speaker 4>Fair.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's absolutely correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Trace.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, first of all, this gentleman is talking a

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<v Speaker 5>very blunt, direct language to his subordinates. And what we

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<v Speaker 5>do in peacetime and all the services is prepare for war,

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<v Speaker 5>and hopefully by doing so, we're deterring war. And that's

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<v Speaker 5>what he was doing. He was making certain his troops

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<v Speaker 5>understood that war could be around the corner. All said

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<v Speaker 5>the very same thing. To our troops at different levels

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<v Speaker 5>of command during our tenure. But what I think is

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<v Speaker 5>really going on here. He just came out of the

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<v Speaker 5>Pacific region. He's very conversant with what is taking place

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<v Speaker 5>there and the fact that we have lost our military deterrence.

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<v Speaker 5>It has eroded because of the nine to eleven wars

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<v Speaker 5>and budgets that don't meet the requirements. And he sees

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<v Speaker 5>that and knows that China does have a military advantage

565
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<v Speaker 5>right now, more ships, more planes, and certainly more missiles,

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<v Speaker 5>and he doesn't certainly want them to take advantage of that,

567
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<v Speaker 5>but as possible they could. It's not knowable what's going

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<v Speaker 5>on in President She's mind, whether it's a year, two years,

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<v Speaker 5>or five years from now. But what is knowable is

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<v Speaker 5>that our military deterrence is not what it should be.

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<v Speaker 5>And I believe that is where the General's coming from,

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<v Speaker 5>because he knows that we're vulnerable and we have got

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<v Speaker 5>to fix it.

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<v Speaker 4>So what's the remedy, I mean, that's the whole thing

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<v Speaker 4>in general.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the remedy to get stronger in the Pacific region

577
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<v Speaker 3>if that's the necessity here? And how long will it take?

578
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<v Speaker 3>Is it a money issue? Is it is it something else.

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<v Speaker 5>It's partially money, but it's also a commitment. One. We

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<v Speaker 5>have to upgun Taiwan. We've got a nineteen billion dollar

581
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<v Speaker 5>backlog of equipment going to Taiwan that they have paid for,

582
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<v Speaker 5>and the backlog is years. The Congress has got to

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<v Speaker 5>get into this and roll this leaves up and fix

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<v Speaker 5>the foreign military sales system with a sense of urgency.

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<v Speaker 5>And so we have to do training with Taiwan in

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<v Speaker 5>a way that Jennifer just mensing we're doing with South Korea.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't do much of any of that with Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 5>We self deter ourselves because we don't want to provoke

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<v Speaker 5>the Chinese. And second thing is we've got to move

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<v Speaker 5>our forces. More forces into the region, yes, more planes, Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>more ships, and more missiles. We've got to deploy them

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<v Speaker 5>and make certain of China on the stands that there

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<v Speaker 5>is an effective deterrence and the only way that's going

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<v Speaker 5>to happen is them generals will look at it and say, well,

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<v Speaker 5>the cost is too great for us to start a

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<v Speaker 5>war over Taiwan here with the United States because we

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<v Speaker 5>don't know what the outcome will be. That is the

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<v Speaker 5>kind of answer we want.

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<v Speaker 4>I just quickly. Fifteen second, Jar, I want to put

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<v Speaker 4>this on the screen.

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<v Speaker 3>This is from the Chinese Foreign Ministry concerning Kevin McCarthy's

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<v Speaker 3>upcoming trip. He says, China opposes any form of official

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<v Speaker 3>interaction between its Taiwan region and countries having diplomatic ties

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<v Speaker 3>with China. We hope US lawmakers will abide by the

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<v Speaker 3>one China principle. What do you think of that? Very quickly?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean this said kind of the same thing when

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<v Speaker 4>Nancy Pelosi.

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<v Speaker 5>Went, we should visit Taiwan and support them, Marl support

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<v Speaker 5>political support that a political leader would provide. But look

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<v Speaker 5>at the Secretary of Defense should go, he does, and

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<v Speaker 5>the Secretary of State should go on in his own

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<v Speaker 5>trip he doesn't. The Chairman doesn't go, That Indo Pacific

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<v Speaker 5>Commander doesn't go. We self deter ourselves from this because

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<v Speaker 5>we don't want to provoke China. We've got to stop

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<v Speaker 5>puddling this issue and make certain we're providing the support

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<v Speaker 5>to Taiwan that they need.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, General, great to see you, Thank you, sir.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey Sean Hannity here, Hey click here to subscribe to

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was quite interesting. But this is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of amazing, Colonel. As we wrap up our interview today, sadly,

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<v Speaker 2>i'd love to ask you straight up if we could

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<v Speaker 2>do this in another format some other time in the

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<v Speaker 2>future as time and things unfold, if that's okay with you,

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<v Speaker 2>and always looking forward to having great guests like yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's interesting what we find out from President Chi

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<v Speaker 2>as you write in your book that he made this

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<v Speaker 2>statement to the twentieth Party Congress in October of just

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<v Speaker 2>this past twenty twenty two, and he said, I quote,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no commitment to renounce the use of force, and

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<v Speaker 2>the option to take all necessary measures is retained. The

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<v Speaker 2>complete reunification of the Motherland must be realized and can

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<v Speaker 2>certainly be realized end quote. A very powerful statement there,

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<v Speaker 2>and that concerns so many people. But unfortunately, Colonel, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think enough right now, as we're totally involved in

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<v Speaker 2>our sports and certain other problems that we have here

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<v Speaker 2>in the nation. Thank God for our freedom and democracy.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, I think people should pay attention to this

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<v Speaker 2>particular subject, obviously, and it's an honor to have you

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<v Speaker 2>here so I was wondering if that's okay, if in

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<v Speaker 2>the future we might be able to do this As

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<v Speaker 2>time unfolds here and the story between China and Taiwan evolved,

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<v Speaker 2>what's so you, sir?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, of course, anytime at all. I'm always glad to

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<v Speaker 1>glad to weigh in. Certainly gotten to be pretty interested.

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<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to get even more interesting as

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<v Speaker 1>the month's play out here.

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<v Speaker 2>And we end off with a quote from your book

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<v Speaker 2>from Captain Jim Finnel, United States Navy retired and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>and I quote, either we embrace our survival instinct, we

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<v Speaker 2>will end up being told how to live by the

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<v Speaker 2>same best wards or locking down tens of millions in China.

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<v Speaker 2>End of quote or end quote, as they say, more professionally,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for your time today on the Doctor Sky Experience.

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<v Speaker 2>A very special guest, Colonel brand Lusham a book that

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<v Speaker 2>everybody should get if they value freedom and democracy. And remember,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not necessarily just a democracy, folks. The technical term

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<v Speaker 2>is we're a constitutional republic. But this is not a

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<v Speaker 2>civics class right now, that's something that we need to

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<v Speaker 2>spread the world to the world about our freedom and liberty.

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<v Speaker 2>The book when China attacks a warning to America. You've

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