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Speaker 1: This is sweetos as you as you, as as you as.

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Speaker 2: You.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Hey, everybody, welcome to Matt Connerton Unleashed af Yes,

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the online only version that is truly unfiltered, uncensored and unleashed.

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And we are here. It is a Sunday, August seventeen,

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twenty twenty five. Jenny is with me, of course, Hello, Getings.

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You are not at the news table, that's for the right.

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Speaker 2: I'm not at the news table. I am at my cable.

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Speaker 3: You're at your Tata space. That's right, that's right. So

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welcome everybody. A couple of things we want to talk

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about while there's there's a big subject that we're going

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to get into in a few minutes. But we also

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for those who do not know Jenny, you have this

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article that has been published on Common Dreams.

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Speaker 2: Yes, my first byline on Common Dreams. So I'm very

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excited about that. Unfortunately, it was a topic that I

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didn't ever expect I was gonna have to deal with

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face to face. I think we've are you there, oh, yes.

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Speaker 3: There a.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, these this is something I never thought in

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my honestly, I never thought that I would ever be

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face to face with Nazis. Like this doing the whole

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salute and everything. But yeah, that happened right here in Concord,

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New Hampshire, and they were the you know, they came

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to intimidate us. We had planned a protest. I volunteered

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to help out. I was not one of the the

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main organizers. That organizing group was actually fifty to fifty one,

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the local New Hampshire group here, and they had planned

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this protest, got permit the whole nine yards. So we

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showed up to h when we were supposed to do,

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and we were starting to set things up for the

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rally that was supposed to happen like in about an

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hour or so after we've gotten there, and no sooner

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did we show up and start unloading the trucks at

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trucks cars did not. These guys march in in their

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red shirts, which on the back I apparently says, uh,

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forgive me blood tribe black pants, red shirts, all of

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their faces completely covered. Can't see them except for the

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founder guy. He's the only one that didn't have his

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face covered. And that's the bald guy sitting there with

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the tattoos going down his face. And they started yelling

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hate with a megaphone it said something like, you know,

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the only thing good about your hair, you know, Hampshires,

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white people, it's the only thing good. And they were

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saying this nasty, nasty stuff, and we, you know, it

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was like, we didn't engage them, but obviously we're not

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going to have this going on. So one of the

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organizers actually got the idea. She pulled her phone out

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and she started playing there's a song about killing Nazis.

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So she played that. She played they not like Us

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and uh, that was fun to sing along too, yeah,

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and uh then she played, uh, I got to do

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that once before in DC. They played that and we

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were like pointing at them, you're not like us, which

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we did to these guys, you're not like us. We

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were not afraid of them and their job. They're basically there.

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They're trying to intimidate us, and they're also trying to recruit.

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You know, they are on a you know, they want

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more people in their ranks, more white men in their rates. Specifically,

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they had the whole Nazi flag. And then she also

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played Martin Luther King. So she put her phone in

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front of a megaphone and then I had my own amplifier,

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so I put that in in front of the megaphone

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so we can amplify it even more, and it made

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it very loud and kind of distorted and just literally

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drowned them out. Whatever the dude was saying in the

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megaphone wasn't getting very far because nobody could hear them.

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We were literally drowning them out, which was excellent. You know,

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not engaging is important because that's what they want. They

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want you to engage. They want to incite something. So

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you can't fall prey to that, no matter how angry

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they make you, no matter what horrendous things they say

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about our fellow human beings. You know, you can't go there.

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You just can't. So when they weren't getting obviously heard,

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they decided to line up. Because they weren't there for

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very long, mind you, I'm serious, We really drowned them out,

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and so they formed a line so they were two

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by two and then they started a military march out

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of the state capitol, down the path under the arches

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out onto the main street, chanting saying hateful things, trying

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to be like all military ask Although it was funny

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because when they first started trying to do their little

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military ask moves. One of them went in the completely

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opposite direction, which was rather amusing. So they lined up

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to pay two and they're trying to you know, they're

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shouting their hate, and they're photographers, like trying to photographer,

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you know, camera us, as if that's going to be

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something intimidating. And I just pushed my camera right into

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his face as he was pushing it into mind, not

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like literally, we weren't literally like we kind of stepped forward.

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Speaker 4: He stepped towards me, I stepped towards him, and then

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he walked off, but.

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Speaker 2: People were yelling at him, telling them to get out.

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None of these people are from here, by the way.

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They're not from New Hampshire. They came from other places.

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They literally marched there and did their hateful yelling and

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crap all the way down Main Street or a few

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blocks to where they had parked a U haul. But

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when they got about almost to where the U haul was,

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there was an altercation with a person who does live here.

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around this one man, and one of them punched that

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man in his back like four times. Another one of

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them pepper sprayed this man and then they ran to

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their little U haul and jumped in the back of it,

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please were there, and drove off.

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Speaker 4: Not about you, but I'm.

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Speaker 2: A little flabbertasted that the police let these people climb

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into a U haul and drive off because I got

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I don't know, call me crazy, but I think if

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maybe they were a different group, or maybe if their

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tone was different, the cops would have been like, ah, no,

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you don't get to drive off with human beings in

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the back of you all. That's illegal. But apparently in

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this instance, no, maybe now one now it's possible the

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cops thinking was, you know what, let's just get them

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the hell out of here so there's nothing more going on.

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was the case. However, there was an assault and I

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want to know why that why they haven't been accountable

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for that. My understanding is that it is under investigation.

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I don't know enough more. I don't know enough to

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say anything more about the legal aspect of it. But

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as you know, as a citizen in New Hampshire, I

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serve two terms in that house and New Hampshire State

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House is the oldest state house in the country that

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still operates in its original chambers, like our House and

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Senate still meet in the same exact place they did

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when the building was built, when the country before or

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the country was even a country really in a sense,

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you know when and there's a huge history with France

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and everything's there's really a rich, rich history in New

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Hampshire when it comes to that stuff. And one of

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the things about New Hampshire is that we pride ourselves

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on being a place that everybody has the right to

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be heard. You'll hear that said in the New Hampshire

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House if if there's starts to get too loud or

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something like that, the chair will say the member has

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a right to be heard, so to the people, and

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the people have a right to be heard. These guys

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have a right to free speech. They expressed it. We

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didn't inhibit that. We have the right of free speech

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to drown out hate. And that is how we chose

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to deal with it, and I think it was a

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very appropriate way and I absolutely commend everybody. That was

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an excellent, excellent event. In the end, we had a

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wonderful protest, had excellent protest. They didn't achieve their goal.

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Speaker 3: We had to mention that picture is a courtesy of

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Andrew Vorhees. By the way, our friend Andrew Vorhees, yes,

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who was recently with us on the Hanging Left podcast

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and on Matt Connerton Unleashed as well on the radio

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version that we do on Saturdays at w M and

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H and talking about the picture, and so they used

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his picture in the article.

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Speaker 2: He is a photo journalist and he he took he

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took some excellent photographs and I've seen other pieces of

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his work. Yeah, and he is an excellent photographer. I'm

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super happy to have met him and now have him

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among our ranks. You know, young man with a head

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on his shoulders. It's very good. He's very compassionate and

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he wants to help make sure that he records what's

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going on. That nothing is done in the dark. And

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that's another big thing about New Hampshire. You know, politics

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shouldn't be in the dark. We're the only I don't

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I don't know we're the only state, but I know

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we're rare in the sense that any bill that's introduced

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in the State of New Hampshire will go all the

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way through the process and will get a vote by

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the entire body. There's no such thing as a pocket veto.

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There's no such thing as a committee kill in that regard.

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Everything goes to the floor for a vote. So New

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like it and I'm proud of it, and I'm proud

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to be a part of it, and I'm proud of

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the way the people of New Hampshire responded to these fools.

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And they all have their heads covered in these black socks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like they.

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Speaker 2: Look like can you look at these guys. They look

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like they're trying to rob a bank or something like.

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Speaker 3: On because you know, they don't don't want black gloves.

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Speaker 4: Oh, they don't want anybody to know what they really

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think it work?

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Speaker 2: Why not? I think, I why not? Why Why aren't

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you proud of your belief? Why do you hide it?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: That's my question.

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Speaker 3: Well, that feeds into their victimhood though, you know, because

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they'll they'll talk about and even people who don't have

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their point of view, uh to that extreme talk about this.

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You know, there's a lot of white victimhood. Oh you know,

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I as a white person. I'm so put upon, poor me.

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modern conservatism and uh you know so, so it feeds

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into that to them because you know, for them to

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take it to this extreme, they're the ultimate victims, right,

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you know, because that's what's really underneath this is is

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a lot of weak you know, they think they're strong

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and powerful because they're standing up to they're standing up

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against diversity and whatever, but but they're actually very weak. Uh.

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These are the these are the weakest of the week. Uh.

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These these people who hide their identities and spread hate

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because it comes from a place of deep, deep insecurity.

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They feel threatened. They feel threatened living in a world

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that is not some sort of ethno state where everyone

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doesn't look and think and act exactly and speak exactly

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like them. They feel threatened by that. So this is

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their way of lashing out. And it's and it's just

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it's weakness at its absolute, its absolute, most pathetic degree.

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These people are beyond pathetic.

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Speaker 2: But in that same vein Remember, some of these people

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have money behind them, and those same people are doing

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things like doing gene editing to have whiter babies, yeah,

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to have athletic babies. You know, this is these are

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things that they are backing one hundred percent and that

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that's something that should concern us. That's something that we

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should worry about. I believe, you know, I worry about

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Robert Kennedy being in charge of our nation's healthcare in

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meta Care, and he wants to put a data and

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registry together of all artistic Americans. He believes they should

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all be in a database. Yeah, this is what We're

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gonna have a database because that's not familiar to you,

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you know what I mean. The thing I always wonder

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with these people, and I'd love to know what their

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answer would be to me when they do their ancestry

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and that pie chot comes up and you're a mutt

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because you know, you're a little Scholarsh, a little Welsh,

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maybe a little Italian. Maybe you're a mutt. You're genetically

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a mutt because your pie has got plenty of color.

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Speaker 3: The vast majority of people, I believe this firmly, the

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vast majority of people in the United States who are

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white are most likely not as white as they think

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that they are.

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Speaker 2: Correct, And you know, and the thing that from my

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perspective Ashazi Jew. Now go look at some of the

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people in my family tree and their pie chart on ancestry.

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get down to genetic purity, right, is it the pie

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chart that's one color, or is it the pie chot

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that's a little purple, little green, a little blue, little gray,

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a little this, a little Spanish, a little that, because

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that's what their pie shots look like.

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Speaker 3: Well, the other thing too, is and nobody really mentions

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this part, but this is this is another reason why

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these people are so dumb and they're they're just shoveling

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shit against the tide. Because obviously you can't stop diversity,

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what you also cannot stop genetically is you know, sometimes

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they've even used the phrase, like people like Tucker Carlson

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and Laura Ingram, for example, have even gone as far

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as using the phrase the browning of America. Yes, what

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you can you can't. You can't stop it. But what

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you also cannot stop is the in a broader sense,

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the browning of the global population. Here's the thing, and

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this is what these people don't get. There is an inevitability.

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This is just a simple fact humanity as a whole

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over time, you know, and we won't see it. It'll

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be long after we're gone. But over time, the human

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race is going to continue to get darker and darker overall.

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being whiteness. Genetically, whiteness is a recessive trait. Light skin

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is a recessive trait. Dark skin is a dominant trait.

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So that is why when you have when when two

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people have a child, typically you know if one of

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them is white and one of them is black, you

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know the child is going to have darker skin. So

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so you know, the white ethno state that these people

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fantasize about. It's it's never going to happen, not not

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just because not just because of diversity, but because just genetically,

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the global population is going to get darker over time.

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So so again that everything that these people put their

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energy into is so not only is it harmful and

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destructive and hateful, it's completely pointless. There's no point to

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any of it. It's so bizarre.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to completely disagree with you in an aspect

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that I believe they do know it, they do see it,

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and that's exactly what they're trying to stop.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, I agree with you, that is what they're

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trying to stop. But I don't think they but I

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don't what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Either.

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Speaker 3: But but what I'm saying is they're too dumb to

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realize you cannot possibly, like I said, shoveling shit against

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the tide, you can't stop the ocean, and you can't stop,

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you know, the genetic inevitability of what is already happening,

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what has been happening, and what will continue to happen.

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They're they're so they're so just consumed with their own hate.

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They can't think logically and realize not only is what

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they're doing hateful, but it's but it's also completely pointless,

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the pointlessness of it. They're oblivious to it, and you know,

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and and.

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Speaker 2: Well from our perspective, absolutely, but I think that if

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they would be happy to have a you know, like

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we'll talk about that. Actually, well, I don't want to

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get too much into the the weeds on that, because

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we're going to talk about some of that stuff a

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little bit later. But now put the fact that this

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is what's going on and now it's in government. Robert

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Kennedy was very clear with his beliefs that the COVID

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nineteen illness was bio engine nerd to kill everybody but

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Jewish people and the Chinese. So yeah, and then he

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went further to state that vaccine mandates are worse than

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an Frank's persecution. I know, and I can give you

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the citations, well we can, you know, actually the citations

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are in my article if you want to go look

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at it. Yeah, on Common Dreams. If you go to

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Common Dreams, you'll see my article there and you can

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go to the links and you can see the information

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to back it up that these facts that I'm telling

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you are real and true. The video of RFK Junior,

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he's at a dinner or so, he's sitting at a

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table with group of people, and he's very clear, very

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clear in that belief. And these are there people that

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are now running the country and are in very key positions,

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and we should be very concerned about that. And I'm

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very concerned about anybody who would say these are the

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same Nazis. And I got about calling them Nazis by

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the way, because they are Nazis and they are little Nazis,

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Like look at the picture, ask them yourselves there Nazis

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proud they were doing that. I had somebody attack me

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for saying that. Of course, I just want to be

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very clear that they were Nazis.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, well yeah, I mean, any anytime you you

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post anything like that, there's always going to be people

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who just, uh, you know, I always I make fun

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of them, I say, you know, because they'll tell you, oh, no,

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that's a hateful ideology and I don't agree with it,

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and and they're bad people. And then they go and

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then they see on social media, you know, they'll say, yeah, no, no,

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I hate Nazis. They're terrible. Oh wait a minute, Oh

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Nazis are being criticized on social media. Oh shit. I

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got to get on there and defend these Nazis. It's like,

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you know, oh, I don't agree with them, but oh

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but I don't think they should be criticized for any reason.

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I got to defend these Nazis.

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Speaker 2: So you know, we have a president who said they're

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very fine people, and these are the same people who

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march through the streets of Charlottesville chanting Jews will not

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replace us. Matter of fact, if you watch the video

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of that, there is a man that will show up

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in that video and his nickname is the crying Nazi.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Christopher Kiddy from New Hampshires are quite familiar

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with that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he was from New Hampshire. He's actually in

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federal prison for something entirely different.

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Speaker 3: I think, oh is he he fell off my radar.

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Speaker 4: I think he ended up in jailed, but don't quote

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me on that part.

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Speaker 2: But the video literally saying Jews will not replace us,

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the very fine people that Trump was referring to, and

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there's the guy, so you know, yeah, forgive me if

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I'm a bit concerned that the President of the United

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States thinks that people who say you should not replace

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us and thinks that I should you know, not exist

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in this world are verifying people, and that the Secretary

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of of of Health and Human Services, you know, buys

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into this. So, uh, can you blame me for having

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some concerns when Nazis starts showing up in broad daylight

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in front of our state house, matching down the street

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and then assault somebody in broad daylight and then they

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climb into a back of a truck dive off, can

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you you know? And then and then we got now, okay,

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so add to that pie, this germanesque pie of things

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that are piling up. The fact that we now have

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an executive order that says that you can to take

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people and put them in jail for being homeless, take

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people and force them into a mental health facility, and

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even if they really do need mental health, if there's

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no bed, then put them in jail and hold them indefinitely.

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That's a thing. Now, can we take anything more out

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of the German playbook? You know, we're we're imprisoning people

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for being homeless. We're talking, we're reinstitutionalizing people who have

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mental health issues rather than actually getting them the health

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care they need to be fair.

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Speaker 3: To be fair, criminalizing poverty is not new. It's just

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being taken to a new extreme. But it's not new.

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I mean, oh, I know your found ways to punish

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people our own our own.

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Speaker 2: City here in Manchester. If you get caught being homeless

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on a park with the tent or looking like you're

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sleeping there, they can give you a ticket. Now because

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you know being homeless and isn't obvious. You don't have

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money bad enough, I'm not going to give you a ticket.

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Then when you don't pay your ticket, you start racking

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up stuff for that. So then you can get a

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bed toward it because you didn't page ticket. So now

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you get arrested the next time you're caught being homeless.

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And that's right here in our city. That already exists.

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That already exists right here in our city. So this

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is a nationwide decree to jail people who are homeless

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and who have mental health issues and will force them

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into a institution.

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Speaker 3: I'm I gotta say something about this that nobody ever

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brings up, but this is well documented. I don't know why.

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This is one of those things that nobody ever brings up,

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and I don't know why, but I like to say

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this whenever the subject comes up for people who don't know,

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there is a large percentage. I mean, estimates vary, but

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there is a large percentage of homeless people in this country.

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And wherever you're watching or listening to this, in your

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city or here in Manchester where we are, there's a

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percentage of homeless people who are veterans. Why do I

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mention that because the Veterans Administration, while it does very

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well for some people, a lot of people fall through

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the cracks. A lot of people end up homeless because

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they have to take pain medication that they get through

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the VA because of what happened to them during their

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military service serving our country. And then one day they

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get cut off and after resort to street drugs and

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it becomes you know, and they just fall fall down

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the hole and then they wind up homeless.

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Speaker 2: And add to that the fact that they've also recently

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cut veteran services on mental health and they've literally taken

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mental health clinicians and put them in a telemarketing like

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room where they're all talking to clients openly in this room. Right.

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Speaker 3: But I'm bringing this up for a very specific reason

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because there's a particular look people who like to bash homeless,

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people who like to make fun of them, who like

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to talk about them as though they're trash that just

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needs to be swept away somewhere. They tend to be

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of a certain political ideology, right. You know, you don't

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hear liberals talk in that way. But the same people

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who are the cruelest in their condemnation of people who

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are homeless are typically the same people who like to

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wrap themselves in the flag, who like to act like

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they're more patriotic than the rest of us, and who

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love to talk about how important it is to honor

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and support and take care of veterans. So I want

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the people who do that. I want the people who

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think it's cool to kick, hopefully not literally but figuratively,

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or perhaps they fantasize about kicking them literally, homeless people

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when they're down. Just understand something you might be talking

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about a veteran when you do that. So anyone who

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thinks it's cool to be assholes to homeless people, just

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understand you might be assholes to people who served their country.

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And then, because we have a long history of discarding

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people when they leave the military and not giving them

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the help and support that they need, and that is

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well documented. You can trace that all the way back

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to World War One, when our veterans were not given

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things and support and help that they were promised. So

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just understand if you're a conservative who loves to wrap

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yourself in the flag and talk about how veterans are

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so important because the military is so important and we

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need hon our veterans, and you would also just as

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soon spit on a homeless person as even acknowledge their

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existence or give them any sort of dignity. Understand that

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you've got a conflict happening there, because that might be

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that might very well be a veteran that you're doing

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that too. And I will say this every single time

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this subject comes up, because nobody ever says it, and

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I don't know why, but a lot of homeless people

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are veterans who fell through the cracks. So you know,

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people who just mistreat them, you know, I understand if

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you don't want to give them money. I don't give

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them money. Okay, I don't have a lot of extra

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money to just be given out to people. But I

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would never I would never disrespect a homeless person. I

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would never talk down to them. I would never be

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mean to them and nothing like that, you know, I

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mean unless they came at me. Right, They're a human beings,

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child number one. They're a human being and you don't

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know their story. You don't know how they got there,

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you don't know what happened to them. But part of

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that too is also just so you know, conservatives who

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think it's cool to go around shitting on homeless people.

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That homeless person that you think is a piece of shit,

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they might be a veteran who fell through the cracks.

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And we all know veterans who fell through the cracks.

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So just something to consider.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then when I was an EMT, I can

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tell you I responded to a number of veterans who

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needed help and who fell through the cracks, and the

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VA didn't take care of And they should have never

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ended up with me because they weren't being taken care

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of right by the VA. But now put that into

477
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perspective too, even just locally right here, right when the

478
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rents went crazy, we saw a fifty percent increase in

479
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homelessness of one year. But people's rent went up not

480
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fifty bucks or even one hundred, they went up two hundred,

481
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three hundred, four hundred and five hundred dollars all at once. Yeah,

482
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that's a whole new paycheck.

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Speaker 3: How do you keep your home right?

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Speaker 2: And then you only got the one or two jobs

485
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are already working. You can't just make the money come

486
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out of thin air. You've got to come from somewhere,

487
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like when it happened with us. I cut my infusions,

488
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I started rationing my care. But I was lucky enough

489
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to be able to do that, right, Like, I was

490
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lucky that I could do that and not end up homeless,

491
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because I was scared. That's where we were going to go,

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and and that happened to so many people. And it's

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happening more and more every day because you look at

494
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everything that's getting built up, these apartments all across the country.

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I don't care where you live when my parents are

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the same thing. These apartments that are getting built are

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so expensive that the average person can't necessarily afford it.

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And more and more people are ending up homeless every

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single day, not because they're.

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Speaker 6: Lazy, not because they don't have a job and a paycheck,

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but because they can't afford to actually live someplace, because

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greed has gotten so out of control in this country.

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Speaker 3: Well, we need uh. By the way, hello to a

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00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:39,559
Miriam Banish who joins us online. Hi, Mariam, we need

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we need to.

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Speaker 2: Do what I see Isaac in there too.

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Speaker 3: Whatever it takes, whatever it takes for a national push

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for and it's probably never gonna happen, but whatever it

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takes for a tremendous national push for more affordable housing.

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I say, you know, offer the biggest tax break in

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the world to anyone who wants to build an apartment

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complex that is for affordable working class people. Just do it.

513
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Just do whatever it takes, because this is a problem

514
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that's been building up, and you're right, and homelessness.

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Speaker 2: Is the housing does this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, homelessness has been on a huge increase across the country.

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So uh yeah, whatever, whatever you have to do, you know,

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to fix it, fix it. And you know, the Republican

519
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Party is never going to do it because they don't

520
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give a shit, and the Democratic Party is too incompetent

521
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to if they even bothered, even bothered to have seen

522
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this coming. So they've they've not done a damn thing

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about it either.

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Speaker 2: So you know, what they're doing is actually increasing more

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the wage gap between the average working family and these

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these one percenters. Like he's all the tax all the

527
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,680
tax cuts for people who make a ton of money

528
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are still in effect.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the subsidies.

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Speaker 2: That we're going to the exchange, people could afford health

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insurance instead of it being eight hundred, nine hundred thousand

532
00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:06,079
dollars a month for health insurance, go to the exchange

533
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and be able to get it for maybe one hundred

534
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dollars because of a subsidy. Those are not getting renewed.

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That's gone. So next year you might see up to

536
00:31:14,279 --> 00:31:18,440
a fifty percent increase in your health care premium just

537
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:24,200
to have health insurance off the exchange that they're doing

538
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,480
to us, the average working, the working people are paying

539
00:31:28,519 --> 00:31:33,039
more taxes than these rich fox ever pay. Yeah, of course,

540
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and there's so many of them they and Trump even said, ah,

541
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I used the loopholes.

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Speaker 4: You know, if it's there, he's gonna jump through it.

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Speaker 2: Years ago he said that it's And all they're doing

544
00:31:43,839 --> 00:31:47,759
is big, not even worse. Right, We're not investing in housing,

545
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,440
we're not investing in transportation, we're not investing in our

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00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:55,960
own infrastructure. We're building concentration camps. We're spending millions of

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00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,000
dollars flying people out of this country who were working hard,

548
00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:04,119
card paying taxes. They literally took an ice cream man

549
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,519
out of his truck, who was the ice creamman of

550
00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:10,039
this community for over twenty some odd years, didn't have

551
00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:13,599
a single solitary run in with the police ever, was

552
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,720
here legally, had a working had permission to work because

553
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,039
he need taxes, had his green card and everything. And

554
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that's the thing that I don't I feel like people

555
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:27,039
don't necessarily grasp the people are getting kicked out of

556
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:29,759
this country aren't the worst of the worst. They're not

557
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,079
criminals that are on the lamb hiding because but they're

558
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:40,720
literally taking people away and saying we're revoking your green card,

559
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and they're even talking we're going to revoke your naturalized citizenship.

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Speaker 3: Right, They're changing the rules in the middle of the

561
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:48,480
game just to just to get people out, because they

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know that the base loves that time.

563
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Speaker 2: An American citizen is not necessarily something you get to keep.

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Speaker 4: You can lose it on a whim of.

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Speaker 2: A signature, not a legislative action, not something that went

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through the system through Congress, like it's supposed to do

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in a democracy, but by a signature.

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Speaker 3: Well, fortunately, it does look like in terms of ending

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birthright citizenship, it looks like Trump has hit a wall

570
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as far as that goes. But hopefully that.

571
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Speaker 2: Would make him not a citizen. His parents were immigrants,

572
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that would make him not a citizen. He's first generation,

573
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is that true?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, his mother I think was born in Scotland. Yeah,

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he was, he was born here, not his parents.

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Speaker 3: Well, the rules wouldn't apply to him anyway, because they

578
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you know, well, you know, Mega thinks he was chosen

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by God, and we're.

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Speaker 2: Not going to raise the minimum wage. What's it at seven?

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I think federal minimum.

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Speaker 3: It's been seven twenty five for as long as I can.

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Speaker 2: Five is the minimum that you can pay somebody. So

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you can't make enough money to actually rent an apartment,

585
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or if you can rent an apartment, you can't eat

586
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like nobody can break, nobody can live on seven twenty five.

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And when you allow somebody who makes twenty five million

588
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dollars a year to pay his worker seven dollars and

589
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,079
then bitch because you know his worker eats food stamps

590
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so they could actually have some food and they're on

591
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,800
a healthcare subsidy. Why because the rich prick won't pay

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him a littable wage. And that all of this plays in,

593
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All of this plays in I mean to bring it

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back to to where we were, says, I know, we're

595
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,320
gonna move on to something else, but you know, this

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00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:46,519
call to make America great again is absolutely un American.

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It's absolutely un american, and it it encourages people like

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these blood tribe Nazis to show up at capitals like

599
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,280
ours and try to intimidate people and to assault somebody

600
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,639
down the street and spray somebody with pepper spray. That's

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what they do, right, And they're gonna win unless all

602
00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:13,920
of us stand up and and and you know that's

603
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,400
my call to action. I need you to join me.

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00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,679
I can't know this on my own. It's going to

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00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,800
take all of us to save our democracy at this

606
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,760
point and to make sure that people like these don't

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win in the long run.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, agreed. Oh uh, let's see Cyclon Dessenta joins

609
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,440
us in the chatroom and says good afternoon. Hashtag Matt

610
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and hashtag Jen. We are a singing group, quartet, man band, quintet.

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I assume they're from Greensboro, North Carolina.

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Speaker 4: They want to be right, Yes, hi Isaac.

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Speaker 3: Alrighty oh uh we just heard about what's going on.

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Uh this Trump dude, We say, yes, we've missed our

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friends in Greensboro.

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Speaker 2: It's been a bit.

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Speaker 3: Well, they're usually there. They're usually there on Saturday mornings

618
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during the radio. Get to their their comments. But very good,

619
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very good. Uh so the the other the big thing

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that we wanted to discuss today. Uh, this would be

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the main event, as we say on the Tough Bumps podcast,

622
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which I'm gonna be doing with Eric later. But yeah,

623
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Doug Wilson, this guy who I didn't even really know about,

624
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,440
until recently, but apparently he is Pete, what's up?

625
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Speaker 2: You know why because you're not a woman.

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Speaker 3: Well, Pete HeiG Seth, Uh, who is, of course our

627
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secretary of defense, is a member of Doug Wilson's church,

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and I guess recently uh shared out I should uh,

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I should grab the wee grab grab the video here

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of the we could play the ap story.

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Speaker 7: Defense Secretary Pete haig Seth recently made headlines when he

632
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shared a C and N video on social media about

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the Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches, an arch conservative network

634
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of Christian congregations where he's a member. The video included

635
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its pastors arguing women should not have the right to vote.

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Speaker 8: I was very grateful to him for doing that. He

637
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didn't just repost it like, oh, here's an interesting thing

638
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,679
that these weird people are doing. He reposted it and

639
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,440
he himself said all of Christ for all of life,

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which is the tagline that we use.

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Speaker 3: So now, by the way, if Pete hag Seth had

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said this is an interesting thing that these weird people

643
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are doing, that would have been appropriate, but he did

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not say that. He seems to be expressing support for

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00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,559
pastor Wilson, and again, what's that.

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Speaker 2: It's more than that.

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Speaker 3: More than that. Yeah, so he more.

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Speaker 2: Than that because that statement that he made, Yeah, that

649
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statement is is not just like something he's pulling out

650
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a thin air. That statement refers to the belief that

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first we get the Christian nation, then we get the

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Christian concept, then we go for the world. They want

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a Christian world. The ultimate endgame is to convert everybody

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right a.

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Speaker 8: Little more reposting it and saying amen at some level.

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Speaker 7: Pastor Doug Wilson, the network's co founder, is no stranger

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to controversy with his church's embrace of patriarchy and Christian nationalism.

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They are a network of over one hundred and thirty

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churches and have recently opened a new church in Washington,

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d C. With heg Seth attending its first Sunday service.

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Speaker 8: This is the first time we've had connections with as

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many people in national government as we do now. But

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this is not this is not an ecclesiastical lobbying effort

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where we're trying to meet important people. We're trying to

665
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give some of these people an opportunity to meet with God.

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Speaker 7: Wilson's church in the wider network believe in practice the.

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Speaker 3: Idea I would like a chance to meet with God.

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I mean I have questions, you know, like I've always

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wondered what does he look like and does he have

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a long white beer?

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Speaker 7: Men and women have different roles, and women should not

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hold church leadership positions.

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Speaker 8: My wife votes, my daughters vote. If people rush to

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conclusions from what they heard on the CNN piece, that's

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a sad thing. At the same time, I think that

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the Nineteenth Amendment was a bad idea, and I had

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no problem with how Pastor Jared answered the question. I

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would support that. Our issue is not is not a

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problem with the enfranchisement of women. Our problem is with

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the disenfranchisement of the household.

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Speaker 3: Now, just to clarify what he means, his position and

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the position of the church is that there should be

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one vote per household, and of course the person casting

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the vote would be the head of the household. And

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I think we all know when we refer to the

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head of the household, we know who Pastor Wilson has

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in mind. Right, men, that's right, that's not too clear.

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Speaker 7: Follow his church's example.

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Speaker 8: So in our church elections, households vote, and that includes

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some women. As heads of households. But ordinarily, when you

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have a conservative Christian family, the head of the household

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is the is the husband and father, and he's the

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one who casts the vote. But he's voting on behalf

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of the whole household. The issue is not keeping females

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from voting. The issue for us is we want households

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to have a say.

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Speaker 3: There is a little bit of a loophole in there

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for him because uh, you know, he because I think

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in a separate piece and a longer video, or it

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might even even been because we did watch the piece

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on CNN, which by the way, Doug Wilson did acknowledge

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that he thought it was fair. He didn't think that

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a lot of them that it was fair. Yeah, it

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was fair and balanced because they did present all sides.

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But but the loophole being see, he can say, he

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can say, we're not saying we oppose women voting because uh,

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he sort of acknowledges that not every household, you know,

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so for example, if you have a household where there's

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a mom but but the father has passed away, for ex.

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Speaker 2: That's what he said, Yeah, it's a widow, you get

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to vote.

712
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 3: So that's why he gets to say that. That's why

713
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,400
he can say, well, we're not opposed to women voting.

714
00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 2: What's that there's no divorce in that kind of Christianity.

715
00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:46,119
Speaker 3: Well that's true, but but if somebody died, like if.

716
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: You watch the full CNN and they also have an

717
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,320
extended version if you go on YouTube, Yeah, the full

718
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:57,239
thirty minute version that has all. But they interview a

719
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,320
couple of the heads of his church and they reiterate

720
00:42:01,639 --> 00:42:06,599
the belief that men are in charge, women are subservient.

721
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,679
And if that's not enough for you to believe it,

722
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,480
they then go to a couple and the woman openly says,

723
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:17,400
I am subservient to him, that she's submissive. She used

724
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,079
the word submissive, that she's submissive to him. And that

725
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:29,599
is part of the control and this crazy Christianity. Right,

726
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:35,679
where as a woman, you are less than the man.

727
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,599
You're not as smart as the man. God didn't build

728
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:46,280
you to carry this load, this weight. Don't let your

729
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:52,880
husband handle those the household difficulty things. You know, you

730
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,199
keep the house, you raise the kid, but you don't

731
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,079
make decisions. You know, you can have an opinion, but

732
00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:05,480
the ultimate decision is made by the man, right, and

733
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,880
is it is. And as a woman, I was once

734
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:15,400
married for a very long time and in and there

735
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,159
was a time in my life when I had converted

736
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:24,400
to Christianity and believed in a very strict Christianity.

737
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 3: And a strict version of it. We should just be clear,

738
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,000
just to be fair. I don't think a majority of

739
00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:36,000
Christians actually would follow Doug Wilson, but Pete Sache, but

740
00:43:36,039 --> 00:43:38,320
a member, a high ranking member of our government does.

741
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,920
And that's why we're talking about this, just to.

742
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,599
Speaker 2: Make exactly yeah, because I want people to like, this

743
00:43:42,679 --> 00:43:47,719
is a it's it's it's a it's like getting infected

744
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:52,519
with something right, and you, as a woman, you firmly

745
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:54,480
believe that you're doing what God is telling you to do,

746
00:43:54,559 --> 00:43:55,880
and you want to go to Heaven. Right. So I

747
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,400
believed that if I wasn't a godly woman, I wouldn't

748
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,280
get to see the people that I loved again. I

749
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,400
was very attached to that idea of being able to

750
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,159
see the people that I loved who died, and the

751
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:11,159
idea of that not being real was so devastating to

752
00:44:11,199 --> 00:44:15,519
me that the first time somebody really challenged me on it,

753
00:44:16,519 --> 00:44:20,880
I collapsed and just bawled my eyes out, and it

754
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,320
was like, but if you're right, there's nothing. If I'm right,

755
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,280
I get to be with the people I love. So

756
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,199
any suffering that I am enduring in this world is

757
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,800
required of me to get the reward of going to heaven.

758
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:43,760
So whenever my husband had done or said or made

759
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,599
certain rules or whatever that I followed, that's where it

760
00:44:48,679 --> 00:44:53,079
was coming from. And it was a very very strong

761
00:44:53,199 --> 00:44:56,679
I was a Sunday school teacher. We went to church

762
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:02,000
every Sunday. I read the bo I had a woman's

763
00:45:02,039 --> 00:45:05,360
study guides. I can remember going to I would volunteer

764
00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:08,519
for at the Christian camps as because I was an EMT,

765
00:45:08,679 --> 00:45:10,639
I would volunteer to be part of their medical staff.

766
00:45:11,199 --> 00:45:14,000
And I would bawl my eyes out over tearing over

767
00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:17,440
these books. Why don't I get it? Like every Why

768
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,400
can't I feel it? Like everybody else says? Why is it.

769
00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 3: Believe?

770
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 2: But why can't I feel what everybody else does? Why?

771
00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:31,280
And I you know, it's because there's something wrong with me? Right,

772
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,840
And that's powerful. That's the most powerful thing in the

773
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,840
world when you think about it, like if you upset

774
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,639
this God, then you're going to burn and everlasting hell.

775
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,239
You'll never see the people you love again. And I

776
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,719
couldn't live with that at the time. And I firmly

777
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,960
believed that I may not. No one understand why these

778
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,719
things are written, but God has a reason.

779
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 3: Right right, well they have you know, the Lord works

780
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,440
and with serious ways, which is kind of a catch

781
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,679
all explanation for everything. Right.

782
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:09,159
Speaker 2: So this, this belief system exists in different ways, but

783
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:14,840
now this situation has catapulted it. This It came out

784
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,440
of a belief in like Calvinism, and they've and remember

785
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,159
now Doug created this ship. He's the founder of this

786
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,239
He this is his own faith that he created within

787
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,400
this church. And now he's got other locations and they

788
00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:32,800
just opened one in DC. Yeah, to have one near

789
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,000
the capital and heg Seth has already gone there.

790
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 5: To go to church, and and he's very and Doug

791
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,679
is very clear that the nineteenth Amendment, which is the

792
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:46,320
woman's right.

793
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,159
Speaker 2: To vote, should be repealed.

794
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, women should not have the.

795
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: Right to vote.

796
00:46:52,039 --> 00:46:54,679
Speaker 4: He says that it was the stake to have.

797
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,119
Speaker 2: Ever given the woman the right to vote. So put

798
00:46:58,159 --> 00:47:03,199
the religion, the beliefs, and now put this stuff stacking up, right,

799
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,679
We're going to get rid of women's rights. Men are

800
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:11,119
going to rule the world. Only men in leadership. That's

801
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:14,599
a big eie too. Oh yeah, and heg Seth is

802
00:47:14,679 --> 00:47:16,679
very big on that. He doesn't. You know, you look,

803
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,800
they don't. None of them have women in leadership because

804
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:23,119
women are too weak, too stupid fill in the blank.

805
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,039
You're not as smart as a man. You can't do it.

806
00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:28,599
That's their opinion.

807
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,639
Speaker 3: We should for anyone who if you're not familiar with

808
00:47:35,679 --> 00:47:37,239
this guy, like I said, I was not familiar with

809
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,320
this guy before, got a couple other clips here that

810
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,119
I can show that just kind of.

811
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,119
Speaker 8: So let us talk about women voting, shall we? Back

812
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:47,920
in the battle days before the nineteenth Amendment, the men

813
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,119
were considered to be the heads of their households and

814
00:47:50,199 --> 00:47:53,400
represented their families at the ballot box. So what happened

815
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,360
when their wives were granted suffrage. Let's take a typical

816
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,840
presidential election to illustrate it, using the first one inteen

817
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,719
t after women's suffrage was accomplished, the election between Warren

818
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,400
Harding and James Cox. If both the husband and wife

819
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,960
vote for Harding, say, then what you've done is simply

820
00:48:09,039 --> 00:48:11,559
multiplied the number of total votes cast for him by two.

821
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,880
And if the husband votes for Harding, say, and the

822
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,360
wife votes for Cox, Then what you've done is cancel

823
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,360
out the voice of that particular household upon discovering how

824
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,239
they were each going to vote. What would be the

825
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,840
harm if the two of them just stayed at home

826
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,360
for a quiet dinner together in order to cancel out

827
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,719
one another's vote. That way, where was the great progress

828
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:28,280
supposed to be?

829
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 3: He's really reaching to make this argument.

830
00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 2: Makes he interchanges the world household for man. Yeah, remember that,

831
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,119
Remember that every time he uses the word household, it's

832
00:48:39,159 --> 00:48:39,920
about the man.

833
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,679
Speaker 3: There's also but there's also a flaw in his logic.

834
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:45,239
Well here, let me play a little bit more of this.

835
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:50,119
Speaker 2: Not like men who don't have families can't vote? How

836
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,199
hold is bullshit?

837
00:48:51,559 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 3: Right? Right? Yeah, good point, But there's another flaw here.

838
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:55,760
But let me let me just play a little bit

839
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:56,960
more of this to be located.

840
00:48:57,599 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 8: The net effect of women's suffrage was not an advance

841
00:49:00,199 --> 00:49:02,559
in women's rights, but rather part of a push to

842
00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:07,960
replace covenanted entities like families with raw individualism. An overweening

843
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,480
state greatly prefers governing an atimistic populace where each individual's

844
00:49:12,519 --> 00:49:15,159
like a bebe thrown into an electoral sack. There's no

845
00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:18,039
structural or rigidity to it. Especially after laxity in the

846
00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:21,559
law concerning porn, pot and poker has now greased all

847
00:49:21,559 --> 00:49:25,400
the bebes. Nothing coheres anymore. In the older system, the

848
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,079
people were grouped in molecules Birch's little platoons, some of

849
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:32,719
them quite complex, and molecular societies are much more capable

850
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,800
of resisting the demands of statism. So the suffrage movement

851
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,039
was actually not taking up the cause of women, but

852
00:49:38,159 --> 00:49:40,719
rather was part of a long sustained war on the family.

853
00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:43,159
The nature of this kind of thinking says that a

854
00:49:43,199 --> 00:49:46,199
decision to abort a child is a decision between a

855
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:48,760
woman and her doctor. The father of the child is

856
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,159
stripped of any legal ability to protect the life of

857
00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:54,119
his own legitimate child. We need to retrace all of

858
00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:56,960
our steps in order to discover how travesty like that

859
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,719
could ever happen, And when we do, we discover the

860
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,800
ol A lot of it started at Seneca fault.

861
00:50:02,679 --> 00:50:07,159
Speaker 3: Now, the thing that I don't understand is so about

862
00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:09,599
his his logic. I mean, aside from obviously I disagree

863
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:12,800
with his position, but I also there's something about how

864
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,320
he gets there that I don't quite understand. So if

865
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,519
you've got because he uses this example, so if you've

866
00:50:17,519 --> 00:50:20,679
got two if you've got two people in a household,

867
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,840
if you've got a man and a woman who both

868
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,840
vote the same way, you've effectively doubled the vote the

869
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:33,000
voting power of that household. Whereas if they vote, if

870
00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:36,559
they if the two households vote differently, then they've effectively

871
00:50:36,599 --> 00:50:39,920
canceled out each other's vote. Like, look, I'm not good

872
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,199
at math, but why why does that even? Why does

873
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,280
any of that even matter? Because what if you have so.

874
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 2: What if you collection of votes that counts.

875
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,679
Speaker 3: But what if you have two if you have two

876
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,280
people in a household. Though, So, if you have two

877
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,480
people in a household and they both vote the same way,

878
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,639
and they both vote the way you want them to do,

879
00:50:59,199 --> 00:51:02,880
right if if you're a conservative and you've got a

880
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:07,039
conservative couple and they both vote the same way, yeah,

881
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:10,079
maybe you've doubled the voting power of that household. But

882
00:51:10,199 --> 00:51:12,880
in that case, that's a good thing, right for you,

883
00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:14,960
if they voted the way you want them to vote.

884
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,280
So it's kind of like, so, for lack of a

885
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,119
better way of putting it, I guess what I'm saying

886
00:51:19,199 --> 00:51:24,800
is in response to his argument about doubling the voting

887
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,000
power of a household and whatnot. Who fucking cares. In

888
00:51:28,039 --> 00:51:29,199
the end, what does it matter.

889
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 2: It matters that women are having a power over a man. Well,

890
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,159
that's the thing matters, But.

891
00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 3: He's not presenting it that way.

892
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:41,039
Speaker 2: That woman's vote might cause the candidate that she likes

893
00:51:41,079 --> 00:51:45,480
to win, and she's not going to obey her husband.

894
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,159
Speaker 3: That's what he means. But that's not going to.

895
00:51:48,159 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 4: Obey husband, then she's counting. She's killing his.

896
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,679
Speaker 2: Vote because she's not obeying him. But when she is

897
00:51:55,719 --> 00:52:00,719
obeying him, she's giving him an abundance. But we don't

898
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,639
want to allow either one of those. We only want

899
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,440
the men to vote. Remember he doesn't say that a

900
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,719
man who doesn't have a wife and kids can't vote,

901
00:52:10,199 --> 00:52:14,320
of course, he says household vote. A man is a household.

902
00:52:14,679 --> 00:52:20,679
A woman is not anything right unless she's under some

903
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:26,280
man's roof, then she's part of his household. The only

904
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,000
exception to the rule is when a woman is allowed

905
00:52:30,039 --> 00:52:32,360
to be in her own head of household because her

906
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,559
husband died. But you never divorce.

907
00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:38,199
Speaker 4: Divorce is an absolute sin.

908
00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:42,079
Speaker 2: And now broaden this. So this is where we are

909
00:52:42,159 --> 00:52:46,480
right and now we have a faith Office in the

910
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:53,719
White House Christianity only. We have a task force that

911
00:52:53,840 --> 00:53:00,159
is supposed to weed out any anti Christian bias in

912
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:08,280
we have a Religious Liberty Commission. These things didn't exist

913
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:17,280
before Trump because we we recognized it in well Christian initiative,

914
00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:20,639
and we didn't have we didn't have a woman in

915
00:53:20,639 --> 00:53:24,320
the White House under this faith office, who, by the way,

916
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,480
thinks she can move a hurricane with a stick.

917
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 3: Oh, Paula White, Yeah, she's a lunatic.

918
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:30,119
Speaker 2: No.

919
00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:33,039
Speaker 3: But but I'm just saying, though, like this isn't this

920
00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:35,800
isn't all new, because we we did see some of

921
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,039
this to a to a small extent during the George W.

922
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:41,480
Bush administration. And that's part not like this, No, but

923
00:53:41,519 --> 00:53:45,239
that's part of the reason why, because if you remember conservative.

924
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: Offensive that you were, Because I feel like Bush is

925
00:53:48,519 --> 00:53:51,280
an entirely different Republican than Trump.

926
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 3: Oh sure, in a lot of don't.

927
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 2: You think there's I don't think that the aspects of

928
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,280
that are are similar in any way.

929
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 3: No, but I'm just saying, though the roots of this

930
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,880
did pre exist Trump Trump because not actually.

931
00:54:01,639 --> 00:54:02,519
Speaker 4: Well yeah, it did.

932
00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 2: You got to go every other than that, You got

933
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,320
to go back to Nixon and Reagan because that's when

934
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:07,440
we had prayer in schools.

935
00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no Reagan. Yeah, well we never had in

936
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:10,440
public school.

937
00:54:10,599 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 2: Yes we did.

938
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:15,199
Speaker 3: There was a push for it, there was always Okay,

939
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,119
I went to elementary school.

940
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: In the beginning of the day, we all did the

941
00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:23,000
present allegiance and then there was a in Massachusetts.

942
00:54:23,079 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then there was a prayer.

943
00:54:24,559 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 2: Time and the Jewish kids and the Jehovah's Witness kids

944
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:28,440
were were in the hallway.

945
00:54:28,679 --> 00:54:29,679
Speaker 3: That really surprises me.

946
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: In the classroom, it didn't last long.

947
00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 3: That surprises me, but that happened. Okay, No, but my point,

948
00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:38,840
my point was, My point was though that there was

949
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,440
like we saw a lot of this. The reason Christian Conservatives,

950
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,239
for example, they embraced W but they didn't they never

951
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,800
trusted his father. And the reason they never trusted his

952
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,280
father is because Bush Senior was resistant to the Christian right.

953
00:54:52,119 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: Uh.

954
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 3: He he kept them in arms length, whereas W embraced them.

955
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,920
And he did have I don't remember specifically, but he

956
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,599
did have some faith based initiative stuff going.

957
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 2: On during little pitily things. It wasn't anything that was

958
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,400
going to amount to something somebody getting in trouble or anything.

959
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,280
These guys are actually literally out to get people because

960
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,440
they have the power. Now, Oh, you're anti Christian, I'm

961
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,199
going to sue you for Like this is where we're

962
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,920
at right now, right yeah, And.

963
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 3: No, I'm just I'm just saying because.

964
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:29,599
Speaker 2: I have religion and government periodscussion. And when you ask

965
00:55:29,679 --> 00:55:31,639
people like, you know, I mean, this is the pastor

966
00:55:31,639 --> 00:55:33,559
that we're talking about. Is the kind of person who's

967
00:55:33,599 --> 00:55:36,920
leading these people that are doing these things right? Who

968
00:55:37,039 --> 00:55:41,000
they want this country to have? What did he say?

969
00:55:41,559 --> 00:55:44,039
He wanted Jesus to be the head of the country

970
00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:50,239
basically was his thing. And and he said that Muslim.

971
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 4: What do you say about Islamic faith?

972
00:55:52,119 --> 00:55:56,079
Speaker 2: Was I don't know what he's everybody else's faith is heresy,

973
00:55:56,599 --> 00:56:03,840
but their version of Christianity. Right, that's literally outside the

974
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,639
Oval office now, And that concerns me. And when you

975
00:56:07,679 --> 00:56:10,719
say you're going to go target people that you consider

976
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,119
anti Christian, what does that really look like? How is

977
00:56:14,159 --> 00:56:14,599
that going?

978
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,639
Speaker 4: And is there anything going on that we don't even

979
00:56:16,679 --> 00:56:17,119
know yet?

980
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,159
Speaker 2: Like because this exists, we know it exists. What are

981
00:56:20,159 --> 00:56:20,599
they doing?

982
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 3: Miriam Banish says in Texas they had a moment of

983
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,159
silence when she was there two thousand and three to

984
00:56:27,199 --> 00:56:29,280
two thousand and seven. Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't

985
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,320
know that was actively happening anywhere. I always hear Christian

986
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,719
conservatives talk about that like it's like a compromise. It's like, well,

987
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,519
if you're not gonna have prayer in school, I remember

988
00:56:37,559 --> 00:56:38,199
that you didn't.

989
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 2: You didn't have the moment of silent thing either. We

990
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,840
had that afterwards. I mean we had a long time.

991
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:48,039
We had pledge of allegiance, moment of silence announcements.

992
00:56:48,559 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 3: Just just to clarify, though, So I went to a

993
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:56,079
Catholic school, Saint john'san Conquered from grade two to grade eight. Now,

994
00:56:57,119 --> 00:56:59,400
starting in ninth grade, I went to public school. It's

995
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,360
possible there was something. I doubt it, though.

996
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,119
Speaker 2: But if you missed it, it's it's happening, then you're

997
00:57:05,159 --> 00:57:06,320
only a year younger than me.

998
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 3: I doubt it was happening.

999
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:09,079
Speaker 2: This was happening.

1000
00:57:09,679 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 3: I doubt it was happening, even in public school in

1001
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,599
New Hampshire. But but it could have been. It could

1002
00:57:13,639 --> 00:57:15,360
have been, and I just missed it. It certainly wasn't

1003
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,199
happening because in ninth grade. Uh, in ninth grade, I

1004
00:57:18,239 --> 00:57:20,559
started going to public school, and there was nothing even

1005
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,559
approaching anything like that in public school and conquered when

1006
00:57:24,599 --> 00:57:26,840
I was in when I was in public school. But

1007
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,480
there could have been something that I just was never

1008
00:57:28,519 --> 00:57:30,480
exposed to. That's certainly possible.

1009
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: When I was in when we moved, when I'm one

1010
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,440
of the moves I had, I am was it eighth

1011
00:57:37,519 --> 00:57:41,480
grade or seventh grade? See this seventh Oh, it's the

1012
00:57:41,519 --> 00:57:44,760
eighth grade. I ended up in a school where I

1013
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,920
was one of only two Jewish kids in the school.

1014
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,400
It was an overcrowded school back then. The schools were

1015
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,400
packed and we weren't on half day sessions where they

1016
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:56,880
used to do this thing when they often night of

1017
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,880
the days. But you could only walk around the school

1018
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,079
in one direction because it was that fall was that bad.

1019
00:58:02,519 --> 00:58:06,159
And at Christmas time, I guess they had always traditionally

1020
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,960
just had like Christmas stuff up, but now that they

1021
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:13,559
had two Jewish kids, and I made an offhanded remock

1022
00:58:13,679 --> 00:58:17,039
once about you know, I see all the Christma stuff,

1023
00:58:17,039 --> 00:58:19,840
how come there's nothing Bahanka? All of a sudden there was,

1024
00:58:21,079 --> 00:58:25,639
and I was like the pariah. Yeah, yeah, and then

1025
00:58:25,639 --> 00:58:30,639
we did. Hanka got added to the Christmas program and

1026
00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:33,599
they stopped calling it the Christmas thing not long after

1027
00:58:33,639 --> 00:58:37,159
that and started calling it the Fall Concert or whatever.

1028
00:58:37,199 --> 00:58:38,639
Speaker 4: But it was called the Christmas leg it.

1029
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 2: You know. I think about that stuff and how uncomfortable

1030
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:50,280
it was. And then we moved so far past that

1031
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:54,360
people expressing themselves and having their own face, and now

1032
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,280
here we are and all of that progress is being

1033
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:04,559
completely stripped away m hm, piece by peace. And I

1034
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:11,239
worry that this Christian nationalist, uber uber right wing is

1035
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:16,239
going to do irreparable harm that we can't undo. I mean,

1036
00:59:16,239 --> 00:59:19,320
there's already so much going on. I mean, it's these

1037
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:23,159
belief systems that endorse the the belief that we should

1038
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,320
pull people out of their car because they look Mexican

1039
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,000
and find out if they're really if they care legally

1040
00:59:28,119 --> 00:59:32,199
or not, and that we as a society had a

1041
00:59:32,239 --> 00:59:35,079
long time ago said nobody in law enforcement should be

1042
00:59:35,079 --> 00:59:39,559
able to what was the word I'm word searching here,

1043
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:42,239
what was the word for it? When you when you

1044
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:48,079
highlight somebody you're looking for a particular rates profiling? Thank you.

1045
00:59:48,639 --> 00:59:50,800
Remember that was a big deal. It was in the

1046
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,920
news and they did away with racial profiling. We weren't

1047
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,360
going to allow that in law enforcement. Now now we're

1048
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:00,840
encouraging it. You know, now we're encouraging it. And that

1049
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:05,000
certainly isn't going to affect the uh, you know, the

1050
01:00:05,039 --> 01:00:07,880
white africata, but it's sures heck is going to affect

1051
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:13,679
anybody whose skin is slightly brown. Miriam looks slightly Asian.

1052
01:00:15,199 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 3: Miriam says. In the chat room, my autistic kid had

1053
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,880
his hands held down on the table because he was

1054
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,840
fidgeting during a moment of silence. So I assume this

1055
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,039
was back in Texas. He wasn't making noise or hurting

1056
01:00:25,039 --> 01:00:27,920
anyone or damaging property, and they basically used a form

1057
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:28,519
of restraint.

1058
01:00:29,119 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: Yes, yep, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. And and we're

1059
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,679
and now that's being brought back up. I mean, you

1060
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:41,599
go further with hegsas belief system. They believe that the

1061
01:00:41,639 --> 01:00:45,800
Constant not just they want the Constitution, it is one thing,

1062
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,599
but they want the Ten Commandments in every classroom, and

1063
01:00:49,679 --> 01:00:53,599
they want prior in every classroom. And you know, the

1064
01:00:53,639 --> 01:00:57,000
every day should start with that. Every day should start

1065
01:00:57,039 --> 01:01:04,119
with praising an idol, and you know, professing Christian belief

1066
01:01:04,719 --> 01:01:08,559
his version of I want to clarify that his their

1067
01:01:08,679 --> 01:01:10,960
version of Christianity, because there are a lot of good

1068
01:01:11,039 --> 01:01:15,320
Christians out there that don't have these belief systems, right,

1069
01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:18,159
you know, who do believe that a woman shouldn't be

1070
01:01:18,239 --> 01:01:22,039
stripped of her individuality and be melded under the man

1071
01:01:22,599 --> 01:01:26,559
in her household, be it her father, her brother, her husband,

1072
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:32,079
and these these people are in decision making positions now

1073
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:34,960
that are setting laws that are literally putting people in

1074
01:01:35,079 --> 01:01:39,480
jail right in concentration styled camps.

1075
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 3: Miriam said in the chat, if someone isn't raised with religion,

1076
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,320
how would they choose the religion the right religion.

1077
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 2: Well, that's the fallacy, and.

1078
01:01:48,239 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 3: That's the basic that's the giant gaping logic hole in religion.

1079
01:01:53,679 --> 01:01:55,719
Speaker 2: Let me let me dive into that little hole and

1080
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,400
add to that, as somebody who wasn't raised in religion,

1081
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,599
of things from different sides, it was very easy to

1082
01:02:03,639 --> 01:02:06,840
fall prey to somebody who said this is the right,

1083
01:02:07,079 --> 01:02:09,719
this is the way, the truth is the light. Yeah,

1084
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,760
you know, nobody get it. You know, nobody gets to

1085
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,440
the father up by me. You know, when somebody you

1086
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,960
know is dearly beloved, he would say to us, Pastor

1087
01:02:18,039 --> 01:02:22,000
drol Dearly beloved. You know, I was seventeen when I

1088
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,239
started going to that church, and this man convinced me

1089
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,679
that this is the way to go.

1090
01:02:29,599 --> 01:02:32,199
Speaker 4: All the women wore dresses, never pants.

1091
01:02:32,519 --> 01:02:34,639
Speaker 2: In fact, I got seen in a pair of jeans,

1092
01:02:35,039 --> 01:02:40,119
and I felt shame h for being seed in jeans

1093
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:45,440
out in public, right because they made me feel that way,

1094
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,840
and the way the men carried themselves and the way

1095
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:53,119
the women carried themselves. Especially yeah, as as somebody who

1096
01:02:53,159 --> 01:02:58,639
grew up with some serious issues, really crazy ass bad childhood,

1097
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,599
and somebody who wasn't secure in our own femininity to

1098
01:03:02,679 --> 01:03:06,400
be around these women who are the ultimate feminine in

1099
01:03:06,639 --> 01:03:11,280
skirts and phrillies and only their wedding bands, and maybe

1100
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,320
I don't think they wore any jewelry except the wedding band.

1101
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,320
That's the woman I'm supposed to be, and I'm not.

1102
01:03:20,039 --> 01:03:23,480
What's wrong with me? My whole life was what's wrong

1103
01:03:23,519 --> 01:03:28,199
with me? Why I like? And that was such an

1104
01:03:28,239 --> 01:03:33,159
easy prey for right, I was really easy prey. And

1105
01:03:33,199 --> 01:03:38,119
I ended up carrying those beliefs for most of my life,

1106
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,360
and my own thoughts would be pretty bad if I

1107
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:48,119
caught myself sinning, and now they're running the country and

1108
01:03:48,159 --> 01:03:51,199
they're changing our classrooms, and they want the Bible in

1109
01:03:51,239 --> 01:03:54,480
the classroom, and they want the Ten Commandments on the wall,

1110
01:03:54,559 --> 01:03:59,199
and they want Christianity to rule over everything, including our governments.

1111
01:04:00,119 --> 01:04:04,599
And anybody who's Hindu or a Muslim or Jewish or

1112
01:04:04,719 --> 01:04:10,880
atheist or anything other than his brand is demon possessed.

1113
01:04:13,079 --> 01:04:17,239
Speaker 4: That's what he said. Demon that that pastor.

1114
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,599
Speaker 2: And you've got I think we saw the video and

1115
01:04:19,679 --> 01:04:23,400
you guys, yeah, that might be the one.

1116
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:24,559
Speaker 4: I don't or it might have been.

1117
01:04:24,599 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 2: No, it might not be because it was one I

1118
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,480
was watching without you where he literally said, what's wrong

1119
01:04:29,519 --> 01:04:33,000
with the world is that is is this demon possession?

1120
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,480
So base and that's part of what's right. So democrats

1121
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:44,039
are demons? Oh yeah, ideology is Satan stew right. That's

1122
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:49,360
what there's There's no more you know, people is people

1123
01:04:49,719 --> 01:04:50,679
talking to each other.

1124
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,639
Speaker 3: I have a I have a family member who sends

1125
01:04:53,639 --> 01:04:56,519
me text messages that say things like that, and in

1126
01:04:56,559 --> 01:04:58,880
the same text message, he'll criticize me for my ad

1127
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,800
hominem attacks on the right while he's calling me a

1128
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,239
demon rat and saying I.

1129
01:05:03,199 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 2: Believe in them, calling you all.

1130
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,079
Speaker 3: This other stuff. Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of funny.

1131
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 2: How one should talk to somebody you love, is.

1132
01:05:14,079 --> 01:05:16,719
Speaker 3: I do have I do have one more video here

1133
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:21,039
of Pastor Wilson. I think we should grab this. Let's

1134
01:05:21,039 --> 01:05:22,280
see which one didn't I blow this one.

1135
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 8: I didn't play yet. Women are the kind of people

1136
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:25,559
that people come out of.

1137
01:05:26,599 --> 01:05:29,559
Speaker 9: So you just think they're a bit to have babies there.

1138
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:34,519
Speaker 8: No, it doesn't take any talent to simply reproduce biologically.

1139
01:05:34,639 --> 01:05:37,519
The wife and mother who is the chief executive of

1140
01:05:37,599 --> 01:05:41,679
the home is entrusted with three or four or five

1141
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:43,320
eternal souls.

1142
01:05:43,599 --> 01:05:46,119
Speaker 3: I'm here as a working By the way, notice he

1143
01:05:46,159 --> 01:05:49,519
said three or four or five? Did you catch that?

1144
01:05:50,039 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 2: Yes?

1145
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,639
Speaker 3: I did, because because a big part of their deal

1146
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:54,639
is a big part of their deal is have as

1147
01:05:54,639 --> 01:05:58,440
many children as possible. Yes, have as many children as possible.

1148
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,000
That's a big that's a big part of.

1149
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,159
Speaker 2: The correct children. Now, we got to give birth to

1150
01:06:02,159 --> 01:06:03,400
the right, the right children.

1151
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,039
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.

1152
01:06:05,159 --> 01:06:07,159
Speaker 4: That's why you have to get anybody who's brown out

1153
01:06:07,159 --> 01:06:07,760
of the country.

1154
01:06:08,559 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 3: Right. That must be. That must be what it is. Yeah,

1155
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:11,320
that's what I mean.

1156
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:15,039
Speaker 2: That's my theory. Anyway, why we're rounding up human beings

1157
01:06:15,039 --> 01:06:16,840
based on what they look like, right.

1158
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:17,639
Speaker 9: A mom of three?

1159
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 8: Good for you?

1160
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:19,119
Speaker 2: Is that an issue?

1161
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,679
Speaker 8: No? No, it's not automatically an issue.

1162
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 10: Christ Church Senior past Wilson is the leader of a

1163
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:29,000
Christian national movement that believes in a patriarchal society where

1164
01:06:29,039 --> 01:06:31,760
men are dominant and women are expected to submit to

1165
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,039
their husbands. Josh and Amy Prince got, with their four

1166
01:06:35,159 --> 01:06:38,920
kids move from Washington State to Moscow, Idaho, where Wilson's

1167
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:39,920
movement is based.

1168
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 2: Do you see Amy as your equal?

1169
01:06:43,199 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 8: Yes?

1170
01:06:43,679 --> 01:06:47,079
Speaker 2: And no, in the sense that we're both saved by grace.

1171
01:06:47,639 --> 01:06:50,639
We're absolutely on equal footing, but we have very different

1172
01:06:50,719 --> 01:06:52,559
purposes God given.

1173
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 9: But do you see yourself as the head of the

1174
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,679
household as as the man?

1175
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 2: He is the head of our household? Yes, and I

1176
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:01,760
do submit to him.

1177
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 9: So like moving here, I was just going to your decision.

1178
01:07:05,119 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a great, great example.

1179
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Speaker 10: Wilson says, in his vision of a Christian society, women

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as individuals shouldn't be able to vote. His fellow pastors

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Jared Longshore and Toby Sumpter agree.

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Speaker 3: In my ideal society, we would vote as households, and

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I would ordinarily be the one that would cast the vote,

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but I would cast the vote having discussed it with

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my household. Really, Oh yeah, I trust you. I trust

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about it. We talked about it. Yeah, we discussed it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: But if there's a your wife doesn't want to vote

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for the same person as.

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Speaker 8: You, right, well, then that's a great opportunity for a

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good discussion.

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Speaker 2: There are some who have gone so far, you're still

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going to vote his way.

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Speaker 9: I want the nineteenth the moment repealed.

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Speaker 8: I would support that, and I support it on the

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basis that the atomization that comes with our current system

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is not good for humans.

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Speaker 10: And Wilson, a veteran himself, is unapologize about his view

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that women shouldn't be in certain leadership or combat roles.

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Speaker 9: Looking at the leadership page for christ Church, it's all men.

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Do you accept women and leadership roles in the church.

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Speaker 8: And government in the church? No, because the Bible says

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it's not to Well, that's.

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Speaker 2: Not what happens in the Bible.

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Speaker 11: Women do lead all the time.

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Speaker 10: Progressive Faith leader Reverend Jennifer Butler is concerned about Wilson's

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growing influence.

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Speaker 11: He is rapidly gaining in power. He has hundreds of

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churches established around the country. They actually literally want to

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take over towns and cities, and they have access to

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this administration.

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Speaker 10: Wilson's highest level connection to the administration is Defend Secretary

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Pete Hegseth.

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Speaker 8: It's not organizationally tied to us, but it's the kind

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of thing we love to see.

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Speaker 10: For his part, Hagseth has publicly praised Wilson.

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Speaker 3: Now we're standing on the shoulders of a generation later,

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the Doug Wilson's and the other. So there you go.

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So yeah, he's so, this isn't something where you know,

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we're just making assumptions.

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Speaker 2: Or no, we're literally repeating what these people are saying,

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like they're not hiding their crap anymore.

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Speaker 3: It's Seth is all in, egg Seth is all in.

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Speaker 2: They used to say only behind closed doors are out

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in the open now because they feel emboldened and they

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have the power and they're getting away with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, unless you know, uh Miriam says, I was raised

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01:09:29,399 --> 01:09:33,520
vaguely Protestant and my dad was agnostic. My mom left

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01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,800
when oh, my mom felt we should be free to

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choose what to believe. So I tried a few things

1231
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that was empowering, and what I found was that I

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didn't need it to be a good person. I like

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Unitarian Universalists because the idea is that the community is

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there to help you discover that best path for you.

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Speaker 2: Now there's a story out of this Doug Wilson church

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and this, and you guys can look it up on

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your own. The story that I read, and that's I'm

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just repeating what I read is that he had a

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member in his church who was a pedophile, and he

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had worked with this man who repented and was forgiven,

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and then the church helped him find a wife, and

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then they had a baby boy who he then assaulted

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the baby boy, and then he went to the church

1244
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and confessed that he assaulted that he a baby boy.

1245
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And because he confessed and repented, he was forgiven.

1246
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Speaker 3: Oh good, So no need to get the law involved.

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01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing to see here, move along, wi.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 2: That's all you gotta do.

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Speaker 5: That's sorry, you kill somebody, Oh god, God, we were

1251
01:11:02,119 --> 01:11:03,000
all good, right hey?

1252
01:11:03,119 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 2: Sorry?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's the bleef. That's the bleef. So this man,

1255
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right that, this is this is the caliber of human

1256
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And if you and the Handmaid's Tale, nothing in the

1257
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:23,039
Handmaid's Tale that I wrote was not something that had

1258
01:11:23,079 --> 01:11:27,279
happened or is happening in this world. Every aspect of

1259
01:11:27,279 --> 01:11:31,039
the society that she wrote about are things that actually happen,

1260
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you know. And in the Handmaid's Tale, men can do

1261
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:46,560
no wrong, and they still have their plocivities, their kinks. Right.

1262
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There's a place in the book where it's called Jezebel's

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01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:53,880
where the commanders the men go and sleep with whatever

1264
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woman is being kept there who is a sex slave,

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and then they go home to their dutiful wives and

1266
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:06,039
thumped the Bible. You know that that is what I

1267
01:12:06,119 --> 01:12:12,520
see here, these these Bible thumping holier than now bastards

1268
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:19,239
who dehumanize their women and their daughters. And anybody who

1269
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doesn't believe their way is a demon. You're either demon possessed,

1270
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he said, or I don't know if it was ignorant

1271
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or something, but he basically believes that anybody that doesn't

1272
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believe the way he does is because they're demon possessed,

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01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:39,159
like for reals, like they really do think that.

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Speaker 4: So when they hurt somebody, they think they're hurting this demon.

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Speaker 3: M it's a good work around. Yeah, yep, that's not

1276
01:12:49,399 --> 01:12:50,079
about the hue.

1277
01:12:50,119 --> 01:12:53,560
Speaker 4: It's a demon calls women.

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Speaker 2: Hunts parlots. Yeah, women are not supposed to be in

1279
01:13:02,239 --> 01:13:05,439
charge because also they're devious.

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01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 3: Remember the apples, that's where it all started.

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Speaker 2: And have a pension for the evils.

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Speaker 3: That must be where the word evil comes from. Eve

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01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:21,479
never thought of that before.

1284
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Speaker 2: Actually I have to look that one up. I'm not sure.

1285
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I never thought of that till now.

1286
01:13:25,119 --> 01:13:31,399
Speaker 2: But I mean, when you really get into those belief systems,

1287
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:39,800
it is very powerful and very dangerous, and now it's

1288
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:44,880
being wielded against anybody who isn't one of them, anybody

1289
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,359
who isn't going to toe the line of one of them,

1290
01:13:47,399 --> 01:13:51,640
Like if you're not the white heterosexual male that they

1291
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:55,600
want you to be, if you're supporting them, they're going

1292
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,479
to have you to dinner. Oh yeah. Ask a few

1293
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,439
people who are from Cuba they feel about that. Who

1294
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,840
had dinners with the Republicans down there, vote for us,

1295
01:14:05,159 --> 01:14:08,000
We're going to give you back your nation, And now

1296
01:14:08,039 --> 01:14:13,880
you can see videos of them crying. Yes, because they

1297
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,720
voted for Trump. They believed everything they said, and now

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01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,560
their loved ones are being deported.

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Speaker 3: YEP. I don't have any sympathy for them, just for

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01:14:21,119 --> 01:14:22,279
the record, but I'm.

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Speaker 4: Just saying this is how these people operate.

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01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:29,279
Speaker 2: Oh you're a black man, come on in, Come on, honey,

1303
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,199
just make sure you marry your own kind. Because if

1304
01:14:32,239 --> 01:14:34,119
you think that doesn't exist in this type.

1305
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:37,159
Speaker 3: Of sure church, you're wrong. Of course you're wrong.

1306
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 2: It totally does.

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01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 4: And anybody who's not them is not equal to them.

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01:14:43,199 --> 01:14:46,520
Speaker 2: Think of a caste system, because that's basically what we're

1309
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:51,000
being set up into now. The uber elites are running everything.

1310
01:14:51,399 --> 01:14:54,239
They're getting the tax breaks, they get ship tons of

1311
01:14:54,319 --> 01:15:00,000
tax dollars. I mean, hard working people, citizens and nonsense,

1312
01:15:00,079 --> 01:15:03,119
the sense get money taken out of their paychecks long

1313
01:15:03,159 --> 01:15:06,760
before they ever see a dime. And that money is

1314
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,279
now going into the pockets of the people that we're

1315
01:15:09,279 --> 01:15:12,520
talking about, and they're going into the CEOs of these

1316
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:16,399
companies that make twenty million dollars a year annual salary,

1317
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,640
never mind their perks and bonuses. Who the fuck needs

1318
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:21,199
twenty million dollars a year to live.

1319
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 3: Well, not only that, but look at people like Doug Wilson.

1320
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You know, he lives very well. He's a very wealthy man.

1321
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,000
A lot of these these religious leaders are very, very wealthy.

1322
01:15:32,279 --> 01:15:35,960
That's why I you know, and again, all.

1323
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,199
Speaker 2: These churches, some of these churches a million dollar church,

1324
01:15:38,319 --> 01:15:40,079
multi dollar churches.

1325
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 3: And you know, I get and again I get accused

1326
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,680
by a family member of being anti Christian when I

1327
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,359
say this stuff. But it's like, I'm actually not anti Christian.

1328
01:15:47,399 --> 01:15:50,039
I think I think Gandhi was right. You know when

1329
01:15:50,039 --> 01:15:51,880
Gandhi I can never get the exact quote right when

1330
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,520
he said, it's it's it's not it's not your christ

1331
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,079
I don't like. It's your Christians. I don't like because

1332
01:15:57,079 --> 01:15:59,800
they're so unlike your christ Or as a friend of

1333
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:02,359
mine used to paraphrase, I have a friend who passed

1334
01:16:02,359 --> 01:16:03,840
away a few years ago, but he used to say

1335
01:16:04,239 --> 01:16:06,359
his version of that was Christianity is a great idea.

1336
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:10,119
Somebody should actually try it, because you know, these people

1337
01:16:10,199 --> 01:16:15,920
so so blatantly, so flagrantly. I call it ironic Christianity,

1338
01:16:16,119 --> 01:16:20,199
you know, which is this version of Christianity where you

1339
01:16:20,199 --> 01:16:22,880
you say you love Christ and he's your savior while

1340
01:16:23,039 --> 01:16:27,239
actively having as little to do as possible with anything

1341
01:16:27,319 --> 01:16:33,239
Christ actually said or taught. And yeah, exactly exactly. That's

1342
01:16:33,239 --> 01:16:36,920
why you know, I'm I'm I'm pretty skeptical about all

1343
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:38,920
of it, because I don't think any of these people. Actually,

1344
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it's what.

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01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 2: Does Jesus say, For I was a stranger in your

1346
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land and you fed me? For I was a stranger.

1347
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,520
There's a whole section of the Bible, and Jesus says,

1348
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you know, you fed me, you clothed me, you housed me,

1349
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,600
you did right by me. And then he goes after

1350
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:56,560
the people on the other side and he says, for

1351
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:58,680
I was a stranger in your land, and you did

1352
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:03,119
not feed me, and you did not clothe me. Yes,

1353
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and he casts them down because they're not the real Christian.

1354
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The real Christian is the one who brought them in.

1355
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The real Christian is the one that goes over to

1356
01:17:14,399 --> 01:17:18,720
the poor and feeds them and close them. And here's

1357
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:22,439
the kicker for you. Okay, the whole thing about government

1358
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:26,199
is not gonna doesn't want to do charity things. You know,

1359
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we're not gonna. We shouldn't have food stamps. We should

1360
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have churches with food banks, that's the answer. We shouldn't

1361
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have free things because the churches will do it. These

1362
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:40,279
are the churches, and they're not doing it. And then, yeah,

1363
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so the same people who are saying the church is

1364
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to be doing it are the same people who are

1365
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that the leaders in these churches who won't freaking.

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Speaker 3: Do it right you want me? Yeah, sorry, I just

1367
01:17:52,279 --> 01:17:54,640
wanted to say to be fair. So when we talk

1368
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about this, you know, we're talking about the churches that

1369
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,760
are obviously all about the money, or at least obviously

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those of us who are looking at them with a

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01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,720
critical eye. There are I just want to acknowledge that.

1372
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You know, in communities all across the country, there are

1373
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also small churches that actually do do things for the

1374
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community like run soup kitchens and various charities and food

1375
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drives and clothing drives and everything. So I want to

1376
01:18:17,399 --> 01:18:19,760
acknowledge that too. I don't want to paint everybody with

1377
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that because the yeah, there are people who are actually

1378
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believe it or not trying to do Christ's work in

1379
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,600
communities all across the country, and they they need to

1380
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:34,960
be uh acknowledged and praised for that because they're actually

1381
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they're actually doing something good. So we don't want to

1382
01:18:37,279 --> 01:18:40,079
pay with a broadbrush. But we're talking about the Charlatans

1383
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who unfortunately are the ones who get all the media coverage,

1384
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who are who are not doing Christ's work. Because my

1385
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:50,279
theory is they're they're atheists. I always say this about televangelists.

1386
01:18:50,279 --> 01:18:52,880
There's no way they actually believe in God, because if

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they like people like people.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't think it's even that. I have a different theory

1390
01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:01,119
about that. I know everyone says that, but I think no.

1391
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I think they're full on atheists. I'll tell you why,

1392
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because if there were any part of them that actually believed,

1393
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wouldn't they be afraid of going to hell for what

1394
01:19:10,079 --> 01:19:13,960
they do? I think they because.

1395
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Speaker 2: I so believe in what they're saying. When I lived

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a God lived in Kentucky years ago, I looked in

1397
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Kentucky and I worked in a real sweatshop sewing factory.

1398
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We made pajamas and I had to like sew sleeves

1399
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onto these shirts, and you had to look at your machine.

1400
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If you were caught looking at somebody else, you'd get

1401
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:42,000
yelled at in front of everybody and threatened with getting fired.

1402
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No talking not they There were multiple times that Friday

1403
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would roll around and they'd tell us that the banks

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01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,560
screwed something up and when our paychecks weren't there, or

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01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,399
you'd go to the bank to cash your paycheck and

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it would bounce.

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Speaker 4: The wouldn't be any money left in the account if

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you didn't.

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Speaker 2: Get there fast enough to hit your paycheck. But every

1410
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:05,800
Friday at three pm, we were to shut our machines

1411
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:12,359
off and they would play original Sin doctrine sermons over

1412
01:20:12,399 --> 01:20:15,439
the speakers. If you didn't want to listen to it,

1413
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:17,920
you were supposed to go back to work. But if

1414
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:19,840
you turned your machine on and went back to work,

1415
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:23,439
somebody would yell at you that they couldn't hear the sermons. Right,

1416
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:28,640
He's seem holier than and they believed, Oh did they believe?

1417
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:29,079
Speaker 1: Lord?

1418
01:20:29,159 --> 01:20:30,079
Speaker 3: I understand that.

1419
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:34,119
Speaker 2: The office, and literally one of them came out of

1420
01:20:34,119 --> 01:20:36,479
the office and said to me, the reason we weren't

1421
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,079
getting paid was because the fax machine messed up the

1422
01:20:39,159 --> 01:20:42,000
numbers when they sent it. Yeah, So I told him

1423
01:20:42,039 --> 01:20:43,680
I knew how our fax machine worked. And I went

1424
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,039
home with my paycheck, and I was told that I

1425
01:20:46,119 --> 01:20:47,840
was to say nothing or I would be fired, and

1426
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:52,600
so would my husband. But these are the same people here.

1427
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:56,239
These guys make so much money off of the faithful,

1428
01:20:56,359 --> 01:21:00,800
but they believe wholeheartedly that God wants them to do this.

1429
01:21:01,199 --> 01:21:04,239
God wants them to have these things just to clarify

1430
01:21:04,239 --> 01:21:06,239
that the hard.

1431
01:21:06,079 --> 01:21:09,239
Speaker 3: Work that they're doing, it's it's it's called it's called

1432
01:21:09,239 --> 01:21:12,439
prosperity gospel. But what I'm I'm just saying, I'm talking

1433
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:14,960
about the people at the very top, the very top,

1434
01:21:15,039 --> 01:21:19,199
like Kenneth Copeland, Paula White, Joel Olstein. I just I.

1435
01:21:19,159 --> 01:21:21,560
Speaker 2: Personally she excused.

1436
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:24,640
Speaker 3: No, No, No, that's what I'm saying. I believe I

1437
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,279
believe that they don't believe at all. I'm saying this

1438
01:21:27,399 --> 01:21:28,199
is purely.

1439
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:32,359
Speaker 2: A business that I'm surprised that you say that.

1440
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 3: Did I say what that?

1441
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:36,199
Speaker 2: You don't think they're real believers?

1442
01:21:38,199 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 3: You're you're surprised.

1443
01:21:39,119 --> 01:21:39,600
Speaker 2: No, I don't.

1444
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think that's what I'm Yeah,

1445
01:21:42,039 --> 01:21:43,840
I don't think Paula Whit they really.

1446
01:21:44,039 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 2: I do believe she does. I do think she's a

1447
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:51,039
true believer. I think she so believes that she's been

1448
01:21:51,159 --> 01:21:54,520
chosen by this power that if she gets us stinging

1449
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:56,600
in her foot, it's God's telling her something.

1450
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,159
Speaker 3: No, it's a business. It's a business to them. It's

1451
01:21:59,199 --> 01:22:00,640
a business to them.

1452
01:22:02,039 --> 01:22:03,560
Speaker 2: I will agree to disagree with you.

1453
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 3: I mean, who knows, I mean, who knows? I don't know.

1454
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:07,520
I don't know what what goes on in their brains

1455
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:10,039
are in their hearts. But no, I don't. That's always

1456
01:22:10,039 --> 01:22:12,560
been my theory that that I'm talking about. I'm talking

1457
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:16,520
about the really rich televangelists like Paula White, Joel Oldstein.

1458
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:21,319
I don't. I don't think they believe. I don't think

1459
01:22:21,359 --> 01:22:23,960
that they actually believe that there's a deity who's going

1460
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,520
to judge them when they die. Because if they actually

1461
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:30,239
believed that, wouldn't they be afraid to to do what

1462
01:22:30,319 --> 01:22:30,760
they do?

1463
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:34,079
Speaker 2: And this is you see all right, let me let

1464
01:22:34,119 --> 01:22:37,439
me say I lived in Kentucky for three years, and

1465
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:41,159
you want to talk about uber uber Christian like these

1466
01:22:41,199 --> 01:22:43,319
people are Christians you've never met.

1467
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 3: No, but that's not who I'm talking about.

1468
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 2: But that's what I know. I disagree with you there.

1469
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:55,640
These people are those people. They are those believers that

1470
01:22:56,279 --> 01:22:59,199
carry it like a badge of courage, and they truly

1471
01:22:59,239 --> 01:23:02,880
believe this magical inside them. When that woman stands up

1472
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,640
Ryan and she believes that God is going to give

1473
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,159
her the strength to move a hurricane with a stick

1474
01:23:11,119 --> 01:23:13,439
while she's speaking in tongues.

1475
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:20,159
Speaker 3: Yes, oh yes, she knows, she knows.

1476
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:23,239
Speaker 4: They believe that ship Lockstock and barrel.

1477
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:27,039
Speaker 2: They'll fight you over it. They'll kill you. My actually,

1478
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:31,319
my father in law Breton to shoot me. He was

1479
01:23:31,359 --> 01:23:34,159
gonna like threaten to kill me. What I'm talking about

1480
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,720
me accuse me of doing witchcraft lighting high.

1481
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,319
Speaker 3: No, I understand that. But I'm talking about the people.

1482
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 2: Met these people. I've met these people. I've met some

1483
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,279
of these people who are a ship ton of money

1484
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:47,279
and they justify it.

1485
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:53,319
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the people at the though they believe.

1486
01:23:53,359 --> 01:23:56,039
Speaker 2: Oh no, I think they believe it. I think they're

1487
01:23:56,079 --> 01:23:56,840
firm believers.

1488
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 3: I don't think you think Joel. You think Joel actually

1489
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:04,680
belie as a God to judge him when he dies, Yes, yes, but.

1490
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 2: He doesn't believe God's going to judge him poorly. They

1491
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:11,359
don't fear the judgment. You got to understand something too, honey.

1492
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:15,359
A lot of these people believe that once in grace,

1493
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,680
always in grace, once you're saved, you're always saved, right.

1494
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 3: Which gives a well, which gives you a perpetual get

1495
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:22,359
out of jail.

1496
01:24:22,199 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 2: Free ever you commit, I'm always in grace. And if

1497
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,880
you don't believe one hundred percent and that you believe that,

1498
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:32,560
once you repent, you're fine, as long as you ask

1499
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:34,159
God for forgiveness, you go to heaven.

1500
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,600
Speaker 4: So no matter what you do, even if you come

1501
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:37,960
to believe.

1502
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 2: That something you did was wrong, as long as you

1503
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:44,600
prayed on it and turned it over to God left

1504
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:45,439
it on the altar.

1505
01:24:46,159 --> 01:24:49,319
Speaker 3: Well so well, So do you believe that Trump actually

1506
01:24:49,319 --> 01:24:51,439
believes all of his own bullshit? Or is this a

1507
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,439
con See I apply the same sea. I look at

1508
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:56,840
Trumps the same way I look at these televangelists, because

1509
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,880
I also know that the Trump is a con man,

1510
01:24:59,239 --> 01:25:01,520
and he's just con to millions of people who are

1511
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:03,159
gullible enough to believe he.

1512
01:25:03,239 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 2: Found he tapped in and realized how much power there

1513
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,399
Isn't that Because if they stand in front of you

1514
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:19,439
with the Bible preaching gospel, and preaching gospel means you're

1515
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:24,239
saying anything godly. So Trump's standing there with the Bible

1516
01:25:24,279 --> 01:25:27,800
and saying something godly is God.

1517
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:29,560
Speaker 3: This is God.

1518
01:25:29,399 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 2: Moving through him. Say you believe it? Looks that's why

1519
01:25:33,039 --> 01:25:36,039
he can't do anything wrong because God is directing it

1520
01:25:36,119 --> 01:25:37,880
all right, and as a plan for it.

1521
01:25:38,399 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 3: They believe he was chosen by God.

1522
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:42,399
Speaker 2: Only he knows.

1523
01:25:42,279 --> 01:25:46,079
Speaker 4: What You cannot understand the wonders of the Lord. You

1524
01:25:46,159 --> 01:25:48,119
have to put your faith in trust in it.

1525
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:51,199
Speaker 3: And that's why to win.

1526
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:52,279
Speaker 2: He wanted to win.

1527
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 4: He also wanted to stay out of jail. And he

1528
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,880
saw that these people latched on and he realized that

1529
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,520
if he gave them the Christianity they were looking for,

1530
01:26:02,039 --> 01:26:04,920
they'd be in like crazy all over him. And that's

1531
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:05,920
exactly what's happened.

1532
01:26:06,359 --> 01:26:09,039
Speaker 2: All he does is give them what they want, and

1533
01:26:09,119 --> 01:26:12,119
they're happy, and he keeps them and he keeps their

1534
01:26:12,199 --> 01:26:15,800
their support and their favoritism and all of that, and

1535
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,159
that's all he kids about. I don't think he knows

1536
01:26:18,199 --> 01:26:21,159
shit about the freaking Bible. Anybody who stands there and

1537
01:26:21,199 --> 01:26:25,760
goes two Corinthians has never read the fucking Bible, because

1538
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:27,760
you don't even know how it works. Well.

1539
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 3: My favorite, my favorite clip of all time was when

1540
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:35,239
side down, No No, When who's at John Heilman and

1541
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,720
who is the other guy? Rob Halprin. This was back

1542
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:40,880
during the twenty sixteen campaign when they asked him after

1543
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:43,000
a debate, was he you know if he had a

1544
01:26:43,039 --> 01:26:47,079
specific passage in the Bible that He's like, oh no,

1545
01:26:47,119 --> 01:26:48,159
I like all of it. And they ask him, well,

1546
01:26:48,199 --> 01:26:49,840
are you of a more of an Old Testament guy

1547
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,359
or a New Testament guy, and he goes, well, you know,

1548
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:55,399
I think I like them both equally, and it's like

1549
01:26:55,479 --> 01:27:00,239
he's but but and yet these Christian conservatives are so

1550
01:27:00,359 --> 01:27:01,680
easily conned by it.

1551
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 2: And they also they have a told them very much

1552
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:08,880
to New Testament. Only Old Testament. It was done away

1553
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:12,600
with with God was fulfilled by Jesus. So you follow

1554
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:13,479
the New Testament.

1555
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:16,640
Speaker 4: The Old Testament isn't needed anymore.

1556
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:21,119
Speaker 3: Well, but the but the Old Well, but they go

1557
01:27:21,119 --> 01:27:22,760
to the Old Testament. Works.

1558
01:27:23,319 --> 01:27:27,159
Speaker 2: Of course, they validate shit, they'll validate stories or whatever

1559
01:27:27,159 --> 01:27:30,079
you testament, but that's not how you live by. You

1560
01:27:30,159 --> 01:27:34,000
live by what's in the New Testament and what Jesus said.

1561
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:36,479
So we're not doing burnt offers. No, they don't do

1562
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:37,720
thats goal.

1563
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:40,199
Speaker 4: We moved to Sundays instead of Saturdays.

1564
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:42,600
Speaker 3: But they don't give a about They don't give a

1565
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:45,039
shit about Jesus either though, like that don't I mean,

1566
01:27:45,079 --> 01:27:46,560
I mean, they love him and they accept him as

1567
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,359
a savior, but they don't actually care about anything you

1568
01:27:48,399 --> 01:27:48,960
said or did.

1569
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:50,079
Speaker 4: Oh, they do.

1570
01:27:50,319 --> 01:27:54,199
Speaker 2: They believe it. I'm living a godly life by following

1571
01:27:54,279 --> 01:27:55,600
Jesus's teachings.

1572
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 3: But they don't. Though they don't they don't.

1573
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:01,520
Speaker 2: Believe they are, they firmly want hundred percent believe they are.

1574
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:04,319
Speaker 4: Well, I think I think they believe it.

1575
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,760
Speaker 3: I think they kind of treat Jesus like he's like

1576
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:11,359
the drunk uncle at Thanksgiving, Like you know, we love him,

1577
01:28:11,399 --> 01:28:13,760
he's part of the family. But if Jesus wants to

1578
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:15,279
just go to bed now and not say anything else

1579
01:28:15,319 --> 01:28:17,479
crazy like you know, you should take care of poor

1580
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:21,239
people or not let children start over something. We've had

1581
01:28:21,319 --> 01:28:21,920
enough of that, Jesus.

1582
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 2: Why don't you just going on to skip those pots

1583
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:24,720
that are inconvenient.

1584
01:28:25,039 --> 01:28:28,119
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, of course it's all inconvenient.

1585
01:28:28,279 --> 01:28:29,600
Speaker 4: They think, and they twist.

1586
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 2: You know, take take any section of Scripture, hand it

1587
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:34,640
to ten Christians and they're all going to come up

1588
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,640
with who can you know, they'll come up with ten

1589
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:38,399
different versions of what they think it says.

1590
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because it's based on whatever they want it to.

1591
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:45,680
Speaker 2: Be exactly exactly. I'll justify my belief. I'll find a

1592
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:49,199
verse that justify this one fits me. And that's how

1593
01:28:49,239 --> 01:28:52,680
it works. I can justify anything I want to believe.

1594
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:57,039
Look at Doug believes that slavery was good for people.

1595
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 4: Doug Wilson is the one that said slavery was good

1596
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:02,079
for people.

1597
01:29:02,319 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 3: That's a common narrative among his ilk. Yeah.

1598
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:08,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they believe that shit and they justify it

1599
01:29:08,119 --> 01:29:10,479
biblically because you're supposed to be good to your slaves.

1600
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 4: It's in the Bible. They were good Christians.

1601
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 2: They were good to their slaves. See, yeah, that's real.

1602
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:20,720
These people like I've been I'm telling you, these people

1603
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:24,880
will kill you for their belief. That's how strong the

1604
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:29,720
belief is. It is one hundred percent. And everything you

1605
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:34,640
do becomes for God. For God. It's that marching order,

1606
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:38,239
and you justify and they justify it. They for I

1607
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:42,199
believe that the vast majority of the fuckers think they're

1608
01:29:42,239 --> 01:29:44,199
doing the right thing under their faith.

1609
01:29:46,199 --> 01:29:48,640
Speaker 4: But Trump is doing.

1610
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:52,199
Speaker 2: Money hex Seth. I think he might be fucked up

1611
01:29:52,199 --> 01:29:54,319
and truly believe this shit because he's been a part

1612
01:29:54,359 --> 01:29:58,039
of it long before he might orbit. He has been

1613
01:29:58,039 --> 01:29:59,840
a part of this a long time.

1614
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:01,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1615
01:30:01,399 --> 01:30:04,399
Speaker 2: He took the he took the portrait down of the

1616
01:30:04,399 --> 01:30:08,039
first black woman to become an I think it was

1617
01:30:08,079 --> 01:30:12,560
an admiral. There was a he took stuff down in

1618
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:15,119
the Pentagon that had to do with women. If it

1619
01:30:15,159 --> 01:30:19,039
was a woman, somebody who was gay, or somebody was transgender,

1620
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:22,960
it got scrubbed because remember when he first started scrubbing shit,

1621
01:30:23,039 --> 01:30:32,199
the dumb ass scrubbed the aola gay, they scrubbed. Yeah

1622
01:30:32,239 --> 01:30:35,560
too woke, but he woke is now also making a

1623
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:37,760
building accessible for a disabled person to get.

1624
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, anything anything, they don't even know what the

1625
01:30:40,159 --> 01:30:42,479
word means. Just anything they don't like is woke.

1626
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 2: Woke, and all Democrats are demons. I miss it the

1627
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:51,079
days when people politically could disagree but debate one another,

1628
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:53,279
work in you know, work for the greater good of

1629
01:30:53,319 --> 01:30:58,600
our country, because we want I don't want Trump to fail.

1630
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:01,399
He think else my country fails.

1631
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:02,199
Speaker 3: You want.

1632
01:31:03,239 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 2: I want my country to prosper.

1633
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:06,159
Speaker 3: You want your country to succeed.

1634
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:12,600
Speaker 2: Exactly. But what we're we're we're undoing decades of good works,

1635
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:16,119
you know, pulling special like kids out of school and

1636
01:31:16,159 --> 01:31:20,600
reinstitutionalizing them. Why are we doing this? You don't want

1637
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:24,920
because they don't want kids to know how to work

1638
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,159
with disabled people, or they just want to put I

1639
01:31:27,199 --> 01:31:30,319
swear they want to take anybody who's disabled or special

1640
01:31:30,319 --> 01:31:33,079
needs and just lock them away in a facility. Because

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if you can't make the money and you can't serve them,

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you have no purpose on this earth for them. And

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these rich pricks live in a different world than us.

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You and I and all of probably ninety ers, probably

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all of our listeners don't live in the same world

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of these people. They don't shop in the grocery store

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like you do. They don't go to the same clothing

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stores that you do. They don't drive the way that

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they don't do anything the way you do. Things are

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laid out for them because they're that rich. They set

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it up ahead of time. And we have a greed

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issue in this country. That's what we have. When a

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healthcare CEO wakes twenty five million dollars a year, or

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even a million dollars a year, but you're going to

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raise the premiums and you're taking away dental care from

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people on Medicare because they use too much of it

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the insurance they paid for, but because they used too

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much of it, because you don't have the money for

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their care, but you have money for multimillion dollar salaries

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and payout and two private jets.

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Speaker 4: You won't fly with the peasants. These are the people

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running the country.

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Speaker 2: On that part with you, I do agree, but I

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do think that Paula White is a real believer.

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Speaker 3: Trump no, oh no, Trump definitely not Hexas.

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Speaker 2: I think he's a believer and paul A White, I

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think she's a believer.

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Speaker 3: It's a business.

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Speaker 2: I think it's I think she is.

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Speaker 3: No way, it's a business, all right, But you well,

1671
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should we just about an hour and a half, should

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we put a button on this one?

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Speaker 2: I think we can put a button on this one?

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Speaker 3: You want to remind people about your article?

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01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 2: Yes, my article is up on common Dreams and I

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have not put a link on my website, but I

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will do that today. Please go to my website which

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is Jencoffee dot com j E N N C O

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01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:24,000
F F E y dot com. If you can see

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01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:28,600
the screen, it's right there, and feel free to hit

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01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:30,319
me up privately if you've got a question of concern

1682
01:33:30,399 --> 01:33:33,520
or anything you want to talk about. Check it out.

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Speaker 3: Jack l All right, very good, very good. On the

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other side, and by the way, everybody, please check out

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01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:43,079
this week this Weekend's radio show, the radio edition of

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the show of Course, we do every Saturday at WMNH

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01:33:46,159 --> 01:33:48,199
ninety five point three f M. Of course, This version

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01:33:48,239 --> 01:33:51,640
of the program has no direct affiliation with the radio station.

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This is a completely separate venture the AF version of MCU.

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But we did have a great radio show this week.

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We had a Superbug, a New Age Phonograph, and jam

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01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:03,800
Demic on the show and we had a great time,

1693
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:06,439
a lot of great music and I really enjoyed.

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01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:09,199
Speaker 2: We are so spoiled and privileged to get to hear

1695
01:34:09,239 --> 01:34:10,880
all the music that we get to. Oh.

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Speaker 3: By the way, a new name in the chat room

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Carolyn Poole, who says keep on keeping than Caroly, some

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one you know excellent?

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01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:21,640
Speaker 2: Actually, yes, yes, somebody close to my heart from my childhood.

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01:34:22,159 --> 01:34:24,720
Speaker 3: Oh, very good, very good. And if you want to

1701
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:26,239
keep up with what I'm doing, you can go to

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01:34:26,279 --> 01:34:28,640
Matt connorton dot com and you can get the This

1703
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:30,760
will also for those of you who joined us on

1704
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:33,000
the live stream, thank you, And for everyone else this

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will of course be in the podcast feed as well,

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so please subscribe to Matt Connorton Unleased on your podcasting

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platform of choice. And oh and if you are watching

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01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:44,399
this live, I'll be back tonight at six pm with

1709
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,239
Eric Pilcher four tough bumps. That is the plan.

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Speaker 2: That's some wrestling going on.

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01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:52,600
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right, all right. I guess that's gonna

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01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:53,479
do it for us for now. We'll talk to you

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a little bit later. By everybody, Bye bye.

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Speaker 1: Is sweet as you as you, Yes, have you, have

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you a

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Speaker 2: M hm