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<v Speaker 1>Oh gee, folks, it's showtime.

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<v Speaker 2>People say good money to see this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>When they go out to a theater, they want clothed sodas,

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<v Speaker 3>pop popcorn, and no monsters.

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<v Speaker 2>In the Projection Booth.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone for ten podcasting isn't boring?

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<v Speaker 4>Got it off?

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, folks, Welcome to a very special episode of The

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<v Speaker 5>Projection Booth. I'm your host Mike White. On this episode,

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<v Speaker 5>I am talking with writer, director Will Means, and actress

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<v Speaker 5>Rocky shay All about their new film Junkie. Junkie is

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<v Speaker 5>currently going around the film festival circuit. You can follow

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<v Speaker 5>it on Instagram. I will have a link in the

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<v Speaker 5>show notes. Thanks so much for listening, and I hope

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<v Speaker 5>you enjoyed this interview. You two have been working together

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<v Speaker 5>for quite a little bit here, and I was so

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<v Speaker 5>curious how did you meet each other?

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<v Speaker 1>It was about exactly ten years ago now.

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<v Speaker 2>I was living in Atlanta after I just finished undergrad

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<v Speaker 2>at University of Georgia, and so I started paying on

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<v Speaker 2>film sets down there, and I was paying on the

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<v Speaker 2>angly movie Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk, which is like

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<v Speaker 2>the majority of its centers around like that football halftime show.

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<v Speaker 2>And my main thing was that I had to check

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<v Speaker 2>all the background in and out of the set every day.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like four hundred of them or something's crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>And sixteen hour days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And so Rocky was one of them, and so

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<v Speaker 2>she was a face that I would just see at

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<v Speaker 2>check in every morning. But specifically I was wanting to

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<v Speaker 2>make a short film at the time called shit Show

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<v Speaker 2>that was going to be a house party of a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of white trash rednecks just like spiraling into sort

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<v Speaker 2>of a surrealist nightmare. And I was trying to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out who on earth I could cast for that. And

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<v Speaker 2>there was a day on the set where we were

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<v Speaker 2>like in between takes and I look across like the

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<v Speaker 2>bleachers of the football stadium where we are, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just see Rocky Shay over here and her and her

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<v Speaker 2>tight little gems that were talked into her ug boots,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's like jiggling around in her seat seeing Missy

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<v Speaker 2>Elliott's work. It to the two women on either side

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<v Speaker 2>of her, who like didn't know her, and they're both

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<v Speaker 2>just looking at her like what is your problem?

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<v Speaker 1>So naturally I went up to her and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you try to act?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I really like your interviews, She's like, I'm trying to now,

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's literally how it kicked off was thanks

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<v Speaker 2>to Missy Elliott.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, oh, thanks to her.

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<v Speaker 5>How do you guys work together when you're on set together,

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<v Speaker 5>and especially when it comes to, you know, your first

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<v Speaker 5>feature here, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 6>It went like really good. We think a lot alike,

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<v Speaker 6>Like we have like the same energy, so we feed

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<v Speaker 6>off each other, and for the most part, I'll understand

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<v Speaker 6>what Will's directing me to do, and if I have

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<v Speaker 6>a question, he knows I'm gonna ask to make sure

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<v Speaker 6>that I get it right or whatever. But I think

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<v Speaker 6>like we'd feed off each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Like really, well we yeah, we kinda. We definitely have

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<v Speaker 2>the same fucked up sense of humor. And like when

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<v Speaker 2>I made that short film, she has like a really grimy,

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<v Speaker 2>gross monologue in it, and I always thought, oh, this

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<v Speaker 2>actor is going to try to just bury this thing

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<v Speaker 2>afterwards and pretend they never heard it, and then said

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<v Speaker 2>she would perform it again in her acting classes and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, and I was always really.

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<v Speaker 1>Proud of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so I like I had known her for

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<v Speaker 2>or since back then. I always just like really loved

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<v Speaker 2>her energy. And then almost ten years later, I was

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<v Speaker 2>out here in LA for grad school the American Film Institut,

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<v Speaker 2>and she had moved out here doing working COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>Department on films.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then I had an idea for another short

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<v Speaker 2>film I wanted to do, which ended up being my

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<v Speaker 2>AFI thesis about an orgy in Los Angeles gone horribly wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>and Rocky naturally was like, I'm down, like.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But so the nature of it was all very like

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<v Speaker 1>comedy centered.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I was having this idea for Junkie and

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do something that was very like heartfelt and

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<v Speaker 2>chaotic energy into it and show more the lows and

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<v Speaker 1>And so I justly this knew Rocky on a surface level.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I first took her the idea of I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking of doing something like this, she pretty much immediately is, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I should tell you about all my years as a

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<v Speaker 2>methaddict and like the three rehabs that I ran away from,

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<v Speaker 2>and proceeds to tell me five million other super crazy things.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, Rocky, what the thought had it

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<v Speaker 2>know that you had done any of this, and then

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<v Speaker 2>she gave me a stack of her journals that she

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<v Speaker 2>kept when she was like in rehab and also something

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<v Speaker 2>that she wrote when she was high to help me.

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<v Speaker 1>Come up with the script.

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<v Speaker 2>But so I felt like going in the Junkie really

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<v Speaker 2>kicked off a whole different era of our work together.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I didn't necessarily even know that Rocky had dramatic chops.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I knew she could do comedy, I didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>realize the extent to which she's just capable of really

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<v Speaker 2>laying it all on the line like she does in

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<v Speaker 2>this film. But it's something that I think is so

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<v Speaker 2>personal for both of us and really coming from something

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<v Speaker 2>very personal that we wanted to express. That it was

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<v Speaker 2>such a like a raw, grimy, grassroots filmmaking process that

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<v Speaker 2>it was easy for a lot of people to get

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<v Speaker 2>like uncomfortable or want to complain about, like the working

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<v Speaker 2>conditions or the hours, just like the lack of assistance

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<v Speaker 2>that every department had. But Rocky was always just so

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<v Speaker 2>committed that it was like I like, I would ask

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<v Speaker 2>her to get trampled by a mosh pit or run

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<v Speaker 2>through a blood pit with four wheelers swirling around her,

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<v Speaker 2>and she would just be like how many times?

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<v Speaker 1>How many more times do you need me to do?

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<v Speaker 1>It was always yeah, yeah, like totally.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like totally changed the nature of our working

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<v Speaker 2>relationship because I knew it was just like she was

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<v Speaker 2>willing to do anything, but we were like very well

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<v Speaker 2>on the same page the whole time.

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<v Speaker 5>So rocky. How much did your life inform Junkie?

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of it did. I'm ten years clean now,

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<v Speaker 6>but just as with the journals, I still haven't went

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<v Speaker 6>back and read back through them. I just don't want to.

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<v Speaker 6>I just don't want to or whatever. But when I

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<v Speaker 6>handed unto will that right there. I trust him with

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<v Speaker 6>my deepest, darkest hurt secrets, everything, just handed them off

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<v Speaker 6>or whatever. But in doing that, I wanted him to

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<v Speaker 6>really see what the mind of an addict is. That

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<v Speaker 6>there's reason why I acted and I did what I did.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a lot of pain there or whatever, and trying

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<v Speaker 6>to escape it and then trying so hard to get

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<v Speaker 6>clean and get right, and you just fight and fight,

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<v Speaker 6>and sometimes you just you can't get there. But then

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<v Speaker 6>whenever you finally get there, it's triumphant. I want to

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<v Speaker 6>to show that there's hope, there's always hope. Because if

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<v Speaker 6>you ever just lose hope, then that's just it. You're done.

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<v Speaker 6>I think with that, with my experience and sharing that

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<v Speaker 6>with Will, I just really wanted him to be able

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<v Speaker 6>to see what it truly is like in the mindset

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<v Speaker 6>of an addict, and I think that really portrays through

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<v Speaker 5>How was it portraying an addict after you had been one?

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<v Speaker 6>At first people were like, isn't that going to be

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<v Speaker 6>like triggering for you and stuff like that, But honestly,

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<v Speaker 6>it was the exact opposite. It just that made me sick,

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<v Speaker 6>like never just ever want to go down that road again.

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<v Speaker 6>But I wanted to make sure that I portrayed Stevie

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<v Speaker 6>as true to my experiences too, but as Stevie's experiences

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<v Speaker 6>as well. I wanted it to be a little bit

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<v Speaker 6>different than mine or whatever. But I was so focused

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<v Speaker 6>on getting it right, making sure that she came across

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<v Speaker 6>to where you actually could pull for her, not just

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<v Speaker 6>be disgusted with her with all these bad decisions that

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<v Speaker 6>she's making, And that was that was really important to me.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's what drove me, is just trying to

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<v Speaker 6>get it right. She just really wanted this character to

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<v Speaker 6>really show what It's truly like, I think that was

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<v Speaker 2>Though I think I definitely even had to worry sometimes, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>is it good for Rocky for me to be creating

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<v Speaker 2>a scene where she's like freebasing meth off of tinfoil,

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<v Speaker 2>even though it's with fake meth and everything. But she

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<v Speaker 2>always had the polar opposite reaction to being like triggered

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<v Speaker 2>or uncomfortable. She became like meth expert on set because

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<v Speaker 2>she would just be happily and excitedly telling the other

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<v Speaker 2>actors how they were doing it wrong and how you

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<v Speaker 2>would actually crush or blaze up some Ethem'll just huh,

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<v Speaker 2>taking notes from Rocky throughout.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, this is your first feature, and I'm so curious

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<v Speaker 5>as far as how this all came together for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been making movies my whole life, since it was

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<v Speaker 2>years old, and I always knew it's what I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>And so.

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<v Speaker 2>This whole long process of you go to undergrad and

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<v Speaker 2>then you think like, if I can just get on

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<v Speaker 2>film sets, all my dreams are going to come true.

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<v Speaker 2>And so then I was on them as a PA,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet I'm like crashing my car because I fall

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<v Speaker 2>of being worked ridiculous hours. I was like, wait, I

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<v Speaker 2>am on film sets now, why am I depressed? And

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<v Speaker 2>so I ran away from it for a little while

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<v Speaker 2>and then found my I did like some years of

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<v Speaker 2>hippie backpacking around the world, but then found myself like

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<v Speaker 2>really missing it and just missing the artistic outlet and

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<v Speaker 2>took a chance to apply to grad school, got into

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<v Speaker 2>American Film Institute, came out here just in time for

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<v Speaker 2>the pandemic to hit during that But the one like

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<v Speaker 2>really nice thing about that was during that time I

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<v Speaker 2>got to meet Patty Jenkins and she was promoting wonder

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<v Speaker 2>Woman in eighty four at the time, and since she's

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<v Speaker 2>an alumni of the school, came into a talk and

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<v Speaker 2>everyone was like fangirling about Wonder Woman, and I was like, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I got one question in the Q and A, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, how do you come out the gate

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<v Speaker 2>as a first time filmmaker, nothing under your belt and

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<v Speaker 2>managed to make something as niche as I want to

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<v Speaker 2>do an empathetic portrayal of a serial killer that's also

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<v Speaker 2>a queer love story. And She's like whoa, And so

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<v Speaker 2>it like kicked off a relationship between us, and I

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<v Speaker 2>started she read another script of mine I've been working

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<v Speaker 2>on and really loved it and really wanted to develop it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just the whole up and down chaos

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<v Speaker 2>of I'm in grad school. But I'm also like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, all my dreams are coming true because Monster,

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<v Speaker 2>her first film, has been one of my favorites literally

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<v Speaker 2>because there's already enough people competing to do that. It

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<v Speaker 2>Are you really telling me you don't have a smaller

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<v Speaker 2>when I started just developing this idea of Junkie, because

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<v Speaker 2>being like, okay, what if I took an adic and

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<v Speaker 2>made them like a superhero. But to me, a superhero

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<v Speaker 2>in our backyards. With our friends on a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>borrowed locations and stuff like that, and that is pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much exactly how it happened. And Patty wasn't really involved

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<v Speaker 2>during it because she was busy, and I knew, I

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<v Speaker 2>And then apparently it worked.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I hear that you somehow used Canva to help

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<v Speaker 5>you with this. No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the hilarious thing is that Canva wanted us to

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you guys couldn't have picked a worst

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<v Speaker 2>But so, the funny thing was the other film idea

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<v Speaker 2>I'd had that was also this southern thing in a

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<v Speaker 2>horror direction. We had developed for so long, We had

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<v Speaker 2>made look books, we had used Canva, stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 2>heard about this mud bougging festival in Kentucky called Redneck

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<v Speaker 2>Ravee that it had gone viral for being open during

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<v Speaker 2>the pandemic, and it was something like forty something people

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<v Speaker 2>were arrested on warrants at it one year and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh my god, I want to go there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And the idea was like, if I have no money

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<v Speaker 2>to make a first film, I don't want people to

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<v Speaker 2>watch it and feel that and be like, Okay, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a cabin, like it's I was like, I want people

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<v Speaker 2>to watch it as it's going on and be like

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<v Speaker 2>holy shit, like how did the scale of this film

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<v Speaker 2>like balloon this big as it was going And so

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<v Speaker 2>I like cranked out a script in a month, and

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<v Speaker 2>by the time I finished that draft, there was one

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<v Speaker 2>monthuntil Redneck Grave was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I don't want.

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<v Speaker 2>To wait a whole other year.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's try to get out to that festival. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>because we had done the prep for the other film

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<v Speaker 2>and with CANV and everything, it was the same like

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<v Speaker 2>DP production designer like crew that we're trying to pitch

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<v Speaker 2>the other film, still the same environment. Let's take all

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<v Speaker 2>this prep work we did transplant it to this other film,

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<v Speaker 2>but instead of steady cam work. It's all handheld and

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<v Speaker 2>instead of going into saturated colors surreal horror, it's all

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<v Speaker 2>going to be like desaturated like grimy, dusty, junkie. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and we literally had a month to be ready to

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<v Speaker 2>shoot it from the time the script was ready. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, is the first thing I did with no

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<v Speaker 2>shot list, Like the crew didn't see the locations until

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<v Speaker 2>we showed up to shoot them each day, like very

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<v Speaker 2>from the hip on the fly, stressful. Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>recommend it, but see.

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<v Speaker 5>To your pants. It sounds like Rocky. You're in I think,

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<v Speaker 5>almost every single scene of the film. So how was

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<v Speaker 5>that for you? How much had you been talking to

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<v Speaker 5>Will about this idea and like how ready were you

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<v Speaker 5>to just jump into this project that kind of came

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<v Speaker 5>from nothing to all of a sudden it's ready to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>I had a little less than a month to prepare whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>And of course whenever I read the script, I loved it,

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<v Speaker 6>but I thought, oh my god, I'm literally on every

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<v Speaker 6>page except two. This is a lot. But I was

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<v Speaker 6>actually living in la at the time and my lease

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<v Speaker 6>was up, and so I was like, instead of getting

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<v Speaker 6>I'll just move back in with my parents while we're

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<v Speaker 6>filming this or whatever and put my stuff back in

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<v Speaker 6>storage here. And then the strike happened and I ended

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<v Speaker 6>up just staying out there. But we shot what it

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<v Speaker 6>was a little bit of a month. Was it five

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<v Speaker 6>weeks so the sho yay?

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<v Speaker 1>Thirteen days?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh god, quite so much longer?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that it was thirteen basically nonsob so.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. So basically to prepare because it was I basically

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<v Speaker 6>prepared the morning of, because for me, I can't prepare

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<v Speaker 6>for two days later when it's a totally different scene

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<v Speaker 6>or whatever. I will totally mess up everything. And I

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<v Speaker 6>just willed the way my mind works. So it was

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<v Speaker 6>preparing the morning of, getting into that mindset or whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>But also I think knowing this scrip pretty good and

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<v Speaker 6>knowing like what the story was about and how Stevie is,

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<v Speaker 6>and luckily Will was very lenient on some of the

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<v Speaker 6>lines that I may have mixed and allowed me to

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<v Speaker 6>do a little bit of improv queen. Yeah, so thank

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<v Speaker 6>god for that. But yeah, preparing was like literally kind

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<v Speaker 6>of like by the seat of my pants, like literally

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<v Speaker 6>that morning, just making sure I get right. And I

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<v Speaker 6>think sometimes I would psyche myself up. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 6>I've got to I've got to get this right or whatever,

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<v Speaker 6>and then I'm like, I'm sorry, and then but I

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<v Speaker 6>think it all worked out. It worked out for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Not to sound like a bitch. But it was like

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<v Speaker 2>if ever, if sometimes other actors had like a complaint

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<v Speaker 2>about what the scene required of them, or the lines

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<v Speaker 2>they couldn't remember or something, it was always just okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Rocky has a book that she had that she has

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<v Speaker 1>to memorize.

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<v Speaker 2>It is like she she literally doesn't get a day off,

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<v Speaker 2>she doesn't get a shot, yeah a lot in this film,

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<v Speaker 2>Like she has to carry it on her back, put

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<v Speaker 2>her through the ring.

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<v Speaker 5>That all sounds difficult. What was the toughest stuff for

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<v Speaker 5>you to do? Rocky?

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<v Speaker 6>So I don't like to run, and he literally had

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<v Speaker 6>me in booty shorts and I'm running this entire film.

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<v Speaker 6>So that was really the most difficult, trying not to

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<v Speaker 6>because nobody runs pretty and I definitely do not run pretty,

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<v Speaker 6>But which kind of goes with a character because I'm

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<v Speaker 6>high or I'm like coming down or just trying to

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<v Speaker 6>get away from my family or whoever I'm running from

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<v Speaker 6>that at that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Or what ever.

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<v Speaker 6>But that was really probably the most difficult. The scenes

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<v Speaker 6>were that were very dramatic, and especially the ones with

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<v Speaker 6>my son or whatever. To me, those kind not simple,

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<v Speaker 6>but I knew how important they were and I wanted

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<v Speaker 6>them to come authentic, and I think they did. So

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<v Speaker 6>I tried not to worry too much, even though I

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<v Speaker 6>too much pressure on me. Oh my god, you've got

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<v Speaker 6>to get this line has to land exactly like this.

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<v Speaker 6>I just let it flow and hopefully it did right,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think it did. We had some beautiful moments.

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<v Speaker 5>The same question for you will what was the toughest

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<v Speaker 5>stuff for you to shoot?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, tough stuff to shoot? I'm literally like, which

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<v Speaker 1>one do I pick?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I just remember that the whole nature of the

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<v Speaker 2>shoot was that we were like every day, we'd be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>today's a hard day, Tomorrow is an easy one. And

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<v Speaker 2>especially when we started the film by shooting the climax

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<v Speaker 2>like in a mud bogging festival, we had no control over.

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<v Speaker 2>We got the biggest challenge out of the way, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was like every day would surprise you of like

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<v Speaker 2>I I couldn't possibly have expected this to be more difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it's like you don't expect that, like when you're trying.

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<v Speaker 2>To get a toddler to act as seen, that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a nightmare. Or like some of the places

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<v Speaker 2>we shot in were like real trap houses and like

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<v Speaker 2>in the real like meth neighborhoods of Georgia and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like we literally had like people on meth,

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<v Speaker 2>like coming screaming through the sets and stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think those times or whatever kind of it

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<v Speaker 6>did make me nervous, like to be around the people

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<v Speaker 6>who would because I can always spot someone who's high

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<v Speaker 6>or whatever, and I'm like, yeah, we're definitely in the part.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there would always be the tension for me if

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<v Speaker 2>are we gonna pull something off in time? But I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like when it came to stuff that felt more

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<v Speaker 2>stunty or like we need to shoot them pushing through

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<v Speaker 2>a concert crowd, or we need to shoot a crazy

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<v Speaker 2>fight sequence in a kitchen, I feel like some of

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<v Speaker 2>those almost just felt easier because it felt like playing Legos,

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<v Speaker 2>because you're like it's really just like craftsmanship and that

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<v Speaker 2>it was easier to be outside of your head during

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<v Speaker 2>but it would be something like nailing a really intimate

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<v Speaker 2>dialogue or something that I feel like would usually be

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<v Speaker 2>the thing stressing me the most of feeling like I

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<v Speaker 2>needed to nail it. And then suddenly we're shooting like

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most emotional scenes at three am, after

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<v Speaker 2>a whole day of Rocky already having to run around

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<v Speaker 2>and Booty short, and then I can tell that like

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<v Speaker 2>her brain is melting because it's it would usually be

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<v Speaker 2>more about sticking the landing of something emotional rather than

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<v Speaker 2>getting her to crawl through a mosh pit, And so

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<v Speaker 2>those are like a walk in the park compared to

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<v Speaker 2>some of just like dialogue seeing Honestly.

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<v Speaker 5>but tell me about the rest of your past and

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<v Speaker 5>how you found them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a whole hodgepodge of actors I worked with before,

428
00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:55.720
<v Speaker 2>total non actors, like street casting because there's no time

429
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<v Speaker 2>to prep it again. Two of the main supporting people,

430
00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:02.519
<v Speaker 2>Jessica and Kean, who play Sherry, her like girlfriend, and Kai,

431
00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:05.640
<v Speaker 2>her drug dealer. They had also been in my like

432
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<v Speaker 2>two previous short films, and so I kind of wrote

433
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<v Speaker 2>with them in mind for those parts, because they've really

434
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<v Speaker 2>become like writer or die actors down to do whatever.

435
00:21:16.039 --> 00:21:18.480
<v Speaker 2>But then otherwise it's like the guy who plays her son,

436
00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:20.720
<v Speaker 2>who I think does an incredible job, was just my

437
00:21:20.839 --> 00:21:24.720
<v Speaker 2>barista my local neighborhood and had mentioned to me that

438
00:21:24.759 --> 00:21:28.680
<v Speaker 2>he liked acting. And then the guy who plays her

439
00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:31.160
<v Speaker 2>ex boyfriend was like, I was telling people I needed

440
00:21:31.759 --> 00:21:35.079
<v Speaker 2>like a gruff like southern guy who can pull that off,

441
00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:37.920
<v Speaker 2>and someone sent was sending me links to other actors,

442
00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:40.119
<v Speaker 2>and I saw the picture. I saw the guy who

443
00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:43.039
<v Speaker 2>it now is in a picture with one of those recommendations,

444
00:21:43.079 --> 00:21:45.240
<v Speaker 2>and literally was like, who's hit? Who's that guy? And

445
00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:49.759
<v Speaker 2>just DMed him like one person and plays like the

446
00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:51.799
<v Speaker 2>meth head. Bailey, the blonde girl, has been one of

447
00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:54.000
<v Speaker 2>my friends since we were thirteen, and she's not an actor,

448
00:21:54.039 --> 00:21:56.480
<v Speaker 2>she's a dancer. But I just tour under the bus

449
00:21:56.480 --> 00:22:00.559
<v Speaker 2>and making her do this. So it yeah, and sometimes

450
00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:02.799
<v Speaker 2>it it literally be shooting a montage and be like,

451
00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:05.480
<v Speaker 2>which one of our friends is nearby, Let's throw them

452
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<v Speaker 2>in the movie.

453
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<v Speaker 1>Really like very yeah, very all.

454
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<v Speaker 5>Over the place for sure. Other than the challenges of

455
00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:16.720
<v Speaker 5>shooting in some very bad neighborhoods. How was Georgia to

456
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<v Speaker 5>shoot in?

457
00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:18.759
<v Speaker 6>It was good?

458
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean humid in summer gat but it was

459
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<v Speaker 2>That was one thing that I wanted so bad was

460
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<v Speaker 2>to do a different type of Southern film, because I

461
00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:32.920
<v Speaker 2>feel like when we think Southern in movies, everyone's brain

462
00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:37.039
<v Speaker 2>goes to like desert movies and you think like Felma

463
00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:39.680
<v Speaker 2>and Luise, like Texas or like No Country for Old Men,

464
00:22:39.720 --> 00:22:43.359
<v Speaker 2>and it's all either orange or it's like blue and gray,

465
00:22:43.599 --> 00:22:46.160
<v Speaker 2>and the South that we know that we grew up

466
00:22:46.200 --> 00:22:46.680
<v Speaker 2>is very.

467
00:22:46.599 --> 00:22:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Lush, green, humid, sweaty.

468
00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:52.920
<v Speaker 2>One of the few other movies I feel like I've

469
00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:55.119
<v Speaker 2>seen that Captain that So what was Patty Jenkins's Monster?

470
00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:58.079
<v Speaker 2>When I saw that movie, I was like, oh my god,

471
00:22:58.079 --> 00:23:00.359
<v Speaker 2>this feels like where I grew up, and that all

472
00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:03.559
<v Speaker 2>the characters weren't. It wasn't that we took a supermodel

473
00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:06.039
<v Speaker 2>and had them grow an ugly beard and put a

474
00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:08.079
<v Speaker 2>cowboy hat on, and we were like, it's a southern

475
00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:11.400
<v Speaker 2>and Southern authenticity. It was like monsters in a movie

476
00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:14.640
<v Speaker 2>where like they took a supermodel and they like uglied

477
00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:16.759
<v Speaker 2>her down to make her look like a real person,

478
00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:18.759
<v Speaker 2>and everybody in that film looks like a real person,

479
00:23:18.799 --> 00:23:21.119
<v Speaker 2>and I've been really happy that a lot of people

480
00:23:21.079 --> 00:23:23.720
<v Speaker 2>watch it say the environment feels like a character in

481
00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:26.759
<v Speaker 2>the film, because it, Yeah, a lot of people were like,

482
00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:30.200
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen this type of southern before, but it.

483
00:23:29.799 --> 00:23:31.359
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's weird desk because we're like, that's

484
00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:34.359
<v Speaker 1>what we know right so well. But so there was like.

485
00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:38.759
<v Speaker 2>A comfort element of even shooting there because I think

486
00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:40.599
<v Speaker 2>I've been trying to make things work in La for

487
00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:42.160
<v Speaker 2>so long, and that's where it felt like all these

488
00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:43.880
<v Speaker 2>doors were shutting, and so it was like I went

489
00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:48.400
<v Speaker 2>back to home base, and it just being scrappy with

490
00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:50.599
<v Speaker 2>my friends in the woods felt like exactly how I

491
00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:52.319
<v Speaker 2>grew up, made him movies Like.

492
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<v Speaker 5>Ye, tell me about your premiere.

493
00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:58.599
<v Speaker 2>We're freaking out to get ready for it. After these

494
00:23:59.119 --> 00:24:03.440
<v Speaker 2>interviews are of It's six pm tonight. Yeah, we're premiering

495
00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:07.359
<v Speaker 2>at afi Fest. Sold out, So we sold out like

496
00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:10.160
<v Speaker 2>before the weekend even hit, which we can't believe because

497
00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:11.880
<v Speaker 2>there's no famous people in our movies.

498
00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:14.559
<v Speaker 1>So we're very happy about that.

499
00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:17.599
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, like Patty will be there, We'll be doing

500
00:24:17.599 --> 00:24:21.839
<v Speaker 2>the whole Q and A afterwards. Much I'm saying, yeah, humble,

501
00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:24.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying this knowing I'm not processing it mentally as

502
00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:25.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying and I won't be for the rest of

503
00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:29.039
<v Speaker 2>the day. But like that we did this scrappy thing

504
00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:32.119
<v Speaker 2>with not even enough money to finish a movie, yeah,

505
00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:35.480
<v Speaker 2>in our backyard, and now for some reason, people are

506
00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:38.359
<v Speaker 2>taking it seriously enough that they want us to play

507
00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:40.160
<v Speaker 2>it in a sold out room at the Chinese Theater

508
00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:42.799
<v Speaker 2>on Hollywood Boulevard. It feels like we're getting away with

509
00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:44.960
<v Speaker 2>like we duped people and we don't know why they're

510
00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:49.960
<v Speaker 2>not onto us yet, Like how did we get here?

511
00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:54.319
<v Speaker 6>It's surreal, But that's how I feel, just and just

512
00:24:54.400 --> 00:24:56.640
<v Speaker 6>all the good press that we've had about it, just

513
00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:01.400
<v Speaker 6>everybody seems to have really enjoyed it. Didn't just to

514
00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:04.440
<v Speaker 6>hear that that's something that we poured our heart, literally

515
00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:08.559
<v Speaker 6>our heart and soul into when people were actually recognizing

516
00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:14.720
<v Speaker 6>that and liking it, so it's just what. So I'm excited,

517
00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:17.440
<v Speaker 6>Like we're excited, just don't know what to expect, but

518
00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:21.440
<v Speaker 6>just my daughter's going to be here. She hasn't seen it,

519
00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:25.079
<v Speaker 6>so I'm so excited just to see her reaction, and

520
00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:28.440
<v Speaker 6>it's just yeah, it's Yeah, it's just great.

521
00:25:28.480 --> 00:25:29.920
<v Speaker 2>A lot of a lot of the actors, like still

522
00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:31.440
<v Speaker 2>haven't seen that you were going to see it for

523
00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:31.920
<v Speaker 2>the first time.

524
00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:35.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so yeah, So I hope they're happy.

525
00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:39.039
<v Speaker 5>Are they going to do the whole red carpet, the

526
00:25:39.079 --> 00:25:41.519
<v Speaker 5>photos and all that kind of stuff that really do

527
00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:41.960
<v Speaker 5>it up.

528
00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:44.920
<v Speaker 2>We're not getting that like George Clooney Adams and their

529
00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:47.359
<v Speaker 2>level that they had the other night, for sure, because

530
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<v Speaker 2>I don't think people are clamoring to photograph will Meians

531
00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:53.400
<v Speaker 2>and Rocky shot. They'll be clamoring the photograph first heon orenough,

532
00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:55.599
<v Speaker 2>but we do have to go through a whole photo

533
00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:59.119
<v Speaker 2>op at their like af I backdrops.

534
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<v Speaker 6>A little red carpet.

535
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, talk to some breath.

536
00:26:01.279 --> 00:26:04.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm mainly going to be I was haggling AFI all

537
00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:06.400
<v Speaker 2>week to let me get in the theater to approve

538
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:08.720
<v Speaker 2>the audio levels before they play the movie, So I'm

539
00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:10.480
<v Speaker 2>mainly going to be trying to run off to do that,

540
00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:14.079
<v Speaker 2>probably while she's taking photos. This thing has just been

541
00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:16.519
<v Speaker 2>so graspers from the ground up, and we're premiering at

542
00:26:16.519 --> 00:26:20.799
<v Speaker 2>this huge festival with like no studio attached to the film,

543
00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:26.240
<v Speaker 2>like no distribution plan yet, like it, and I can't

544
00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:28.200
<v Speaker 2>believe we got it this far, but it's yeah, I

545
00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:30.599
<v Speaker 2>really I think we're just hoping that it blows the

546
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:33.200
<v Speaker 2>roof off and that it becomes a conversation piece that

547
00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:36.920
<v Speaker 2>helps us get a much wider release for it and

548
00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:39.359
<v Speaker 2>all of that, because obviously we wanted to get out

549
00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:41.319
<v Speaker 2>there as far as possible. And I think Rocky and

550
00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:43.400
<v Speaker 2>I both still believe in a kind of cinema that

551
00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:47.720
<v Speaker 2>we're not seeing anymore. That is movies with just faces

552
00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:54.680
<v Speaker 2>you don't recognize and zero CGI and India's hell like yeah,

553
00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:57.240
<v Speaker 2>like very handmade, and I feel.

554
00:26:57.000 --> 00:26:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Like people want to see that.

555
00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, yeah, I feel like Hollywood's underestimating how

556
00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:03.799
<v Speaker 2>much easier it can be to empathize with that. A

557
00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:05.599
<v Speaker 2>lot of the time, Like even if I'm watching a

558
00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:09.839
<v Speaker 2>rugged Southern story, I'm gonna be or even an addiction story,

559
00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to relate to it as much when

560
00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:15.079
<v Speaker 2>I know that it's like Timothy Shamalama Bingbong playing the

561
00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:18.359
<v Speaker 2>drug addicts, because I know he's like a huge A

562
00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:21.799
<v Speaker 2>list celebrity, and I just like, yeah, I really hope

563
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:27.160
<v Speaker 2>that people identify how much easier it is to connect

564
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:31.160
<v Speaker 2>and have empathy with something real, something and something not

565
00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:31.920
<v Speaker 2>familiar to you.

566
00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I just really I think we're.

567
00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Both just really hoping that people like respond to it,

568
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:39.119
<v Speaker 2>get excited about it. And yeah, even the sellout, it

569
00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:41.000
<v Speaker 2>feels like maybe we're like the cool kid of the

570
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:44.960
<v Speaker 2>festival because it's all these like these big celebrity dramas

571
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:47.559
<v Speaker 2>and there's just the and then there's just the I

572
00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:49.839
<v Speaker 2>don't know what it is movie called Junkie with Rocky

573
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:51.599
<v Speaker 2>flipping a middle finger on the poster.

574
00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:57.839
<v Speaker 5>Very nice image on that poster. Is there a place

575
00:27:57.880 --> 00:27:59.559
<v Speaker 5>for people to keep up with the movie and with

576
00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:00.000
<v Speaker 5>you guys?

577
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Instagram mainly.

578
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:05.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's where I post everything for it at Real

579
00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:06.519
<v Speaker 2>means as mine.

580
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:11.119
<v Speaker 1>It's our il period means my last name, Rocky's is

581
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:13.920
<v Speaker 1>a girl called Rocky Shay. It's our Instagram handle.

582
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:16.960
<v Speaker 2>But and then we also were having an East Coast

583
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:20.559
<v Speaker 2>premiere at Maryland Film Festival in Baltimore two weeks after this,

584
00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:24.359
<v Speaker 2>and I really love that festival. And they're playing it

585
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:27.880
<v Speaker 2>twice actually on like Thursday and Saturday.

586
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:28.119
<v Speaker 1>Of that weekend.

587
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:33.200
<v Speaker 2>And other than that, Yeah, we're out to other festivals

588
00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:37.839
<v Speaker 2>and we're starting the like sales talks with people so yeah,

589
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:40.079
<v Speaker 2>that's just we're about to see what happens.

590
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:40.400
<v Speaker 6>Best.

591
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we're both about to disappear back into obscurity.

592
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:43.039
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and.

593
00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:47.440
<v Speaker 5>Hopefully not, because I loved the movie and I really

594
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:49.519
<v Speaker 5>had a great time talking with y'all. So thank you

595
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:50.480
<v Speaker 5>so much.

596
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, thank you. Yeah, it's been great.

597
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:08.759
<v Speaker 3>There's nothing you can say to She's write where if

598
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:13.480
<v Speaker 3>she wants to be out on the edge where.

599
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:18.559
<v Speaker 5>No one can to know though she's not moving.

600
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:21.039
<v Speaker 4>I hear the laughing.

601
00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:30.599
<v Speaker 3>Wait till you've tried before you jug He says you

602
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:34.799
<v Speaker 3>you don't you know, No, you don't know.

603
00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:45.200
<v Speaker 4>You don't, you don't don't. I said, you love the junkie,

604
00:29:48.640 --> 00:30:00.359
<v Speaker 4>So no, I.

605
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.240
<v Speaker 7>Want to know what You're so good.

606
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:08.279
<v Speaker 4>You're breaking the hearts of your loved ones like crackers.

607
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Since while you pond off the Silver Cross Watch you

608
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:17.039
<v Speaker 3>in New Mexico gave.

609
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:24.200
<v Speaker 4>To the seasons over the desert. You, she says, you

610
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:32.519
<v Speaker 4>don't don't, No, you don't know, you don't, you don't don't,

611
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:43.599
<v Speaker 4>I said the Chelsea so long.

612
00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:18.920
<v Speaker 7>I finally found out on the floor of my hotel.

613
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:26.079
<v Speaker 7>Who things filled the pus the custom free and I

614
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:31.880
<v Speaker 7>pulled myself out and stared in the middle. Just for

615
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:35.240
<v Speaker 7>an instant I could finally see it.

616
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:39.000
<v Speaker 6>She says you.

617
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:54.960
<v Speaker 3>No, no, you John, don't get out class the jockey.

618
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<v Speaker 4>Jock Jo, don't tell no, no, you don't know, you

619
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:18.759
<v Speaker 4>don't don't you don't know, said Jump. So who.

620
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<v Speaker 2>Oh stop?

621
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<v Speaker 4>Who in name?

622
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<v Speaker 2>S an.

623
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<v Speaker 4>A miter st
