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<v Speaker 1>What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up

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<v Speaker 1>where he left off with the Pam Bondi discussion with

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<v Speaker 1>the OIG investigators. Now, miss an sorry is asking the questions. Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Bondi, thank you all right. I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>focus questions on failure to comply with the Oversight Committee subpoena.

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<v Speaker 1>On August fifth of last year, Chairman Comer issued a

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<v Speaker 1>subpoena to the DOJ for all documents and communications from

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<v Speaker 1>DJs Epstein and Maxwell related cases. On August twenty second

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<v Speaker 1>of last year, DOJ produced approximately thirty three thousand pages

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<v Speaker 1>to the committee. Almost all of those materials were already

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<v Speaker 1>publicly available, and that's all that we have received from

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<v Speaker 1>the DOJ in the ten months since the subpoena was issued.

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<v Speaker 1>Why was the first production in August made of mostly

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<v Speaker 1>and all publicly available material, Bondy, as I said earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>Associate Attorney General Stanley Woodward managed the release of those documents,

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<v Speaker 1>and since then the Department received and released approximately three

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<v Speaker 1>million documents. Miss ansorry, but did anyone in the administration

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<v Speaker 1>direct you to release material that were already publicly available

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<v Speaker 1>pertaining specifically to the subpoena. Dylan, I think we're having

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<v Speaker 1>some difficulty hearing you. Bondy, Yeah and sorry. Okay. The

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<v Speaker 1>question in regards to our subpoena before prior to the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein Files Transparency Act, Bondy, I have to turn. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't turn my neck, so I have to turn towards you.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's okay, Miss ansorry. So the question is, did

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<v Speaker 1>anyone in the administration direct you to release only public

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<v Speaker 1>available information in those thirty three thousand pages? Bondy, as

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Associate Attorney General Stanley Woodward handled that, Miss

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<v Speaker 1>an Sorry, I understand that, but Bondie cuts her off.

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<v Speaker 1>I had minimum involvement in that and sorry. Buddy works

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Bondy, Yes and sorry. Did someone direct you

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<v Speaker 1>to only release publicly of vallible information in regard to

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<v Speaker 1>our subpoena to the Department of Justice? Bondi, No and sorry. Okay, Bondie,

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<v Speaker 1>to my knowledge, no and sorry. Do you believe that

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<v Speaker 1>the Department is obligated to respond to the Overside Committee subpoena? Bondi,

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<v Speaker 1>Yes and sorry. In November of twenty twenty five, President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump posted on truth Social about the Committee subpoena, saying quote,

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<v Speaker 1>the House Overside Committee can have whatever they are legally

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<v Speaker 1>entitled to. Do you agree with President Trump? Bondie? Can

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<v Speaker 1>you repeat that? And sorry? In November of twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump posted on truth Social about the Committee subpoena,

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<v Speaker 1>saying quote, the House Overside Committee can have whatever they

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<v Speaker 1>are legally entitled to. Do you agree with the President, Bondie?

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<v Speaker 1>I agree that you're entitled to everything you're legally entitled to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes and sorry? Okay? And then finally, does the committee

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<v Speaker 1>need to bring you in for a deposition instead of

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<v Speaker 1>a transcribed interview to get complete answers? Bondy, No, and sorry, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you we have, mister Submerannium. Thank you for coming

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<v Speaker 1>in today. I was just curious if you went through

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<v Speaker 1>any of the files yourself, Like, did you read through

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<v Speaker 1>any of the files yourself? BONDI some of them, probably, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them. But there were three million pages, so

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<v Speaker 1>very little Submarennium, right, and you were looking for anything

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<v Speaker 1>in particular in the files, Bondy no, mister Submarannium. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's rumors of an effort potentially to look through the files,

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<v Speaker 1>for President Trump's name, in particular, are you aware of

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of effort at the Department of Justice anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>else in the administration of doing that, Bondy, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to discuss anything with the Department or discussions that

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<v Speaker 1>did or did not take place. Question. I'm asking about

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<v Speaker 1>your knowledge of any sort of effort to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>not any sort of discussions that happened, Bondi. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to discuss any conversations that did or did not happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Regarding that question, I'm not asking about conversations, just to

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<v Speaker 1>be clear, just your knowledge of any effort to look

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<v Speaker 1>for President Trump's name during the redaction process or during

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<v Speaker 1>the release of the files, BONDI. What I do know

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<v Speaker 1>is you can go online. That's why I'm hesitating, and

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<v Speaker 1>there are three million pages, and I believe you can

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<v Speaker 1>type in a name and it'll come up. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure many people did that, with many individuals, and I

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<v Speaker 1>believe members of Congress names are also listed in there.

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<v Speaker 1>So to my knowledge, did that happen, Yes, but not

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<v Speaker 1>only with President Trump, with multiple people, by many of us,

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<v Speaker 1>as you will, that was done question. Absolutely, You're right.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I'm asking though, is before the release of

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<v Speaker 1>the files, during the process or releasing the files, was

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<v Speaker 1>there any effort to look through for President Trump's name

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<v Speaker 1>or any other administration officials name before the release of

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<v Speaker 1>the files? Bondy, I don't recall question. And are you

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<v Speaker 1>aware of any effort to do that? You don't recall, Bondi,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't recall question, okay, And you suggested he gets

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<v Speaker 1>cut off by BONDI again, there were three million pages. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about what's in the files. I'm asking any

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<v Speaker 1>effort to look for President Trump or any other administration

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<v Speaker 1>officials name in the files, up to the release of

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<v Speaker 1>the files and in the process of releasing the files, Bondy,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't recall, Submaranian, you don't recall, okay. And then

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<v Speaker 1>at various points you suggested that the DOJ holds a

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<v Speaker 1>significant volume of child sexual abuse material within the Epstein files.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you clarify what that means, what you meant by that, BONDI. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>it's called c SAM and that is protected, as you

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<v Speaker 1>know under the law, highly protected child sexual abuse material.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, I'm aware of that, and I'm aware that

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<v Speaker 1>there was much of that contained in the Epstein files.

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<v Speaker 1>Question and would you say that some of the files

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<v Speaker 1>that would have been withheld are those types of materials? Bondy,

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<v Speaker 1>to my knowledge yes, question okay. And last month, mister

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<v Speaker 1>Blanche set on a podcast that quote, the FBI did

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<v Speaker 1>not collect any video of mister Epstein or others participating

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<v Speaker 1>in sex acts. Would you agree with that statement? Answer?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have direct knowledge of that, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>know that initially when all those videos were obtained, they

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<v Speaker 1>were scoured through by attorneys and probably agents to be

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<v Speaker 1>sure no victims were released, and much of it, if

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<v Speaker 1>not all, of it ended up being child sexual abuse

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<v Speaker 1>material that he downloaded. If that makes sense. Question, that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. Thank you. That's very helpful. And you have

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<v Speaker 1>spoken and have you spoken with any of the survivors, Dylan,

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<v Speaker 1>you can answer this, but you can answer it again, Bondy.

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke with one attorney, I believe. Question one of

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<v Speaker 1>their attorneys. Bondi, I spoke with one of their attorneys,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe. I know attorneys in my office have spoken

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<v Speaker 1>with multiple attorneys who represented or represent the survivors, And

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, it's not appropriate for us to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to someone who is represented directly without talking to their attorney.

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<v Speaker 1>I've spoke with one of the attorneys. Question, were they

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<v Speaker 1>or their attorneys at all consulted in the process or

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<v Speaker 1>release in the files? Bondy, I don't know. I don't recall. Question.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't recall. And at one point there was talk

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<v Speaker 1>about given the survivors access to their own files or

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<v Speaker 1>statements that they made. Was there any discussion about that

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<v Speaker 1>or sorry? Do you have any knowledge of any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of or understanding of any sort of effort to do that, Bondy?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you repeat that question? The survivors have asked for

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<v Speaker 1>their own files, meaning statements that they gave at the

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<v Speaker 1>time that they were interviewed. Do you have any awareness

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<v Speaker 1>of this request, Bondy, I would direct that to the

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<v Speaker 1>current attorney general. Question, but while you were attorney general, Bondi,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't recall question. I believe they made that request.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't recall them requesting that publicly or directly, Bondy

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<v Speaker 1>access to the files? Question? Yes, Bondy, meaning question, they

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<v Speaker 1>have asked for their own statements. There are three or

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<v Speaker 1>two statements, and so they have said that they requested this.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it was a public letter too, And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>wondering if you would have any knowledge of that request. BONDI,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't recall. I would direct that to Deputy Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>General Blanche. Question, in your opinion, would you have been

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<v Speaker 1>willing to fulfill this request? We have asked multiple times

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<v Speaker 1>if any victim wants to meet with us, that we

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<v Speaker 1>would meet with them and that would include that information,

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<v Speaker 1>to give them that information to discuss it with them

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind. Question great, and then I believe you

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<v Speaker 1>answered this earlier. But based on everything you've seen, do

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<v Speaker 1>you believe that the Department should move forward with any

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<v Speaker 1>effort or prosecution related to the matter. Bondi, As I said,

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<v Speaker 1>we had Jay Clayton in the Southern District of New

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<v Speaker 1>York open an active case on the matter around Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein and other individuals when I left office. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that was still a pending investigation, so I can't answer.

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<v Speaker 1>I would direct that to Todd Blanche or Jay Clayton. Question.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, mister Frost, thank you. I just have one

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<v Speaker 1>more question for clarification. In response to one of the

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<v Speaker 1>questions he just asked about people name searching Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned that maybe he was name searched or members

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<v Speaker 1>of Congress had been name searched. But then you looked

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<v Speaker 1>at us and said, y'all, which leads me to believe

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<v Speaker 1>I just want clarification. Are you saying that you know

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<v Speaker 1>that members of Congress search for President Trump's name or

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<v Speaker 1>search for people's names in the files? Miss BONDI can

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<v Speaker 1>you repeat that? Frost? So, when he asked you about

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<v Speaker 1>was there an effort to search for President Trump's names

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<v Speaker 1>in the file, you started talking about the fact that, well,

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<v Speaker 1>people can go online and look up anybody's name. You

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<v Speaker 1>can look up the President's name. There's members of Congress

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<v Speaker 1>names in it. Then you looked at us and said,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all have searched this as well. And I just when

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<v Speaker 1>you said that, did you mean members of Congress have

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<v Speaker 1>searched for President Trump's name in the files? BONDI, anyone

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<v Speaker 1>ken it's public, Frost. But by the thing you just

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<v Speaker 1>told us a little earlier, it seemed like you of

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge of members of Congress name searching President Trump's name. BONDY, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't have knowledge of. I don't recall that.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyone can go in and search for any name

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<v Speaker 1>on there, and hopefully the system's working where it will

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<v Speaker 1>pull it up, mister Frost. The reason I asked this

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<v Speaker 1>is because they were reporting of when you were testifying

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<v Speaker 1>to the Judiciary Committee that you had in information on

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<v Speaker 1>our search history from when we went to the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice. Was that something that you were being told

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<v Speaker 1>to keep. Were you told to keep that information? The

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<v Speaker 1>spying on members of Congress as they were looking through

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<v Speaker 1>the Epstein files, Bondy, No one told me to spy

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<v Speaker 1>on members of Congress, Frost, So is that a decision

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<v Speaker 1>you made on your own, Bondie. Members of Congress were

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<v Speaker 1>not spied on. That system downloads anyone who looks at it,

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<v Speaker 1>because there are millions of pages of unredacted victims' names.

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<v Speaker 1>There faces names, information that's not public, that's built into

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<v Speaker 1>the program. In fact, when you go and review it,

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<v Speaker 1>if we also have had I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 1>still happening. People in the room watching what was happening

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<v Speaker 1>to be sure no one was walking out with unredacted

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<v Speaker 1>victims' names on a list, and in fact they did

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<v Speaker 1>find someone doing that. Frost. I'm aware that's how the

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<v Speaker 1>system might work, but obviously you know, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>ask if someone ask you to or why you had

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<v Speaker 1>printouts of it in your hearing at Judiciary Committee BONDI oh,

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<v Speaker 1>a stafford gave me that lower level staffer gave me

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<v Speaker 1>Jayapel when she was questioning me about it. No one

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to hide it. I went and I met

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<v Speaker 1>the hearing as well in person in my office, and

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<v Speaker 1>anyone went online and saw the unredacted version, you could

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<v Speaker 1>had been redacted. Mister Frost, Uh huh, thank you. All right, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>episode dealing with the topic, We're gonna pick up where

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<v Speaker 1>episode can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, so we're going to pick up where we

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<v Speaker 1>left off with Pam Bondi and her interview with Congress. Question.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, miss Bondie, we've got about maybe three minutes

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<v Speaker 1>a break. Just one question globally, mister Blanche previously represented

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<v Speaker 1>President and Trump in a personal capacity. To your knowledge,

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<v Speaker 1>did anyone at the Department of Justice ever express concern

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<v Speaker 1>about mister Blanche's management of the Epstein files process given

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<v Speaker 1>his previous personal representation of the President? Dylan, you can

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<v Speaker 1>answer that to the extent that it doesn't reveal internal

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<v Speaker 1>deliberation of the Department of Justice, Bondie, I believe Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>General Blanche follows all ethics rules. He's highly ethical and

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<v Speaker 1>follow the rules of ethics. Question. Miss Maxwell has reportedly

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<v Speaker 1>received preferential treatment at her new prison, special privileges in

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<v Speaker 1>any understanding of why Miss Maxwell's receiving those perks. Answer,

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<v Speaker 1>I was not aware of that until I read it

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday somewhere. Question would you tend to think that those

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<v Speaker 1>perks are warranted given the gravity of her crimes? Answer?

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<v Speaker 1>I would direct that to the Bureau of Prisons, including

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<v Speaker 1>its accuracy. Question with respect to the committee subpoena, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you used a phrase the committee can have what

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<v Speaker 1>they're legally entitled to. I think the President has previously

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<v Speaker 1>used that same phrase publicly. You know, what's your understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of the scope of that, because I think from our

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<v Speaker 1>point of view, essentially all three million pages of EFTA

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<v Speaker 1>would certainly be covered by the subpoena, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>probably more than that, because the terms aren't exactly the same.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your understanding of what this committee is legally entitled

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<v Speaker 1>to pursuant to a subpoena? Answer to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>review an unredacted version of all the documents, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what is in the reading room, including I believe the

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<v Speaker 1>duplicative material as well for you to review. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why the reading room was set up with underdotted material.

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<v Speaker 1>Question to your recollection, at least during your time as

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General, was the reading room efta process viewed by

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<v Speaker 1>Can you repeat the question? Question? Yeah, the reading room

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<v Speaker 1>at DJ to your recollection when you were in office,

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<v Speaker 1>was the reading room a completion of the Department's obligation

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<v Speaker 1>under the Committee subpoena answer? To my knowledge, everyone was

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<v Speaker 1>doing everything they could to comply with the Committee subpoena question. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and one last question before we go off the record.

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<v Speaker 1>You've mentioned mister Clayton's investigation in the Southern District of

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<v Speaker 1>New York. I think in the build up to that

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<v Speaker 1>there was some public back and forth. President Trump posted

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<v Speaker 1>on truth Social that he was asking the Department to

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<v Speaker 1>investigate Jeffrey Epstein's relationship with Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, Reid Hoffman,

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<v Speaker 1>J P. Morgan Chase. And now this is a quote

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<v Speaker 1>many other people and institutions. You have already described your

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of the investigation. I want to ask you again,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have an understanding of who the many other

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<v Speaker 1>people and institutions are that the President was referring to. Answer? No,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do now recall that I did respond to that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how it became public that Jay Clayton was

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<v Speaker 1>assigned and looking into that question, yes, totally agree, but

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<v Speaker 1>people and institutions were. Answer no question. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>President's list were Democrats despite the fact that prominent Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>also appear in the Epstein files? Answer no question. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, and with that we can go off the record.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Emmer will go back on the record. I understand

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<v Speaker 1>the witness would like to make a clarification, BONDI. I

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<v Speaker 1>was asked by one of the members of Congress, I believe,

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<v Speaker 1>Congressman Frost, whether I directed the President's name to be

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<v Speaker 1>reviewed to see if his name was in the documents.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe. I know I did not direct anyone's

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<v Speaker 1>name to be reviewed to see if it was in there.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was done because I remember now. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know the timeframe though, but I remember being aware, of

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<v Speaker 1>course that his name was in it, along with hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>or accountless countless other individuals, and I think the list

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately came out as well, involving high profile individuals. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm aware that his name was searched, but that was

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<v Speaker 1>among many many names that the department searched. I said hundreds.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if it's hundreds, but many, many high

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<v Speaker 1>profile names. And in fact, that list was ultimately released,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was aware of that, but I did not

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<v Speaker 1>direct it. Mister Emmer, thank you. Question. I would like

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<v Speaker 1>to pick up where we left off. During the majority's

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<v Speaker 1>first hour. We were discussing redactions, the Department's practices as

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<v Speaker 1>it relates to those redactions, and I want to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>It's been reported that there were several documents that were

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<v Speaker 1>produced pursuant to the Epstein Files Transparency Act that were

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<v Speaker 1>on the online interface on DJ's website that were subsequently removed.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you aware of documents being removed? Answer yes. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe there were errors where the victims' names were in

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<v Speaker 1>advertly released that shouldn't have been and those were removed,

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<v Speaker 1>and the names or information regarding individuals was redacted that

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<v Speaker 1>should have been released, and upon learning that, the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice redacted and corrected both measures. Question are you

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<v Speaker 1>aware of any documents that were removed that were not

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<v Speaker 1>subsequently produced in their redacted form? Answer not to my knowledge,

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<v Speaker 1>unless you want to refresh my memory, but not to

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<v Speaker 1>my knowledge questions, Starting on February fifth, twenty twenty six,

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<v Speaker 1>the DOJ allowed members of Congress to go and review

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<v Speaker 1>the unredacted versions of the Epstein files. I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>you were asked during the previous hour. But you can

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<v Speaker 1>elaborate on what the process was in place to allow

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<v Speaker 1>members of Congress to review unredacted documents at the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice. Answer it's laid out. I believe it was

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<v Speaker 1>put in writing the hours that they could go in

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<v Speaker 1>what they could see which was unredacted. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>a process, but I don't have all the details in

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<v Speaker 1>front of me. Question, were there any restrictions placed on

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<v Speaker 1>members of Congress as far as what they could review? Answer?

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<v Speaker 1>Not as what they could review. No, and again even

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<v Speaker 1>the duplicative material was included in there. To my knowledge. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>when you and then a Deputy Attorney General, Todd Blanche

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<v Speaker 1>appeared before this committee as part of the briefing that

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<v Speaker 1>you provided in March, I believe you suggested and invited

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<v Speaker 1>members of Congress that were present to come meet with

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<v Speaker 1>you and Blanche personally. Is that right? Answer? Yes? Question

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<v Speaker 1>how many members on our committee took you up on

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<v Speaker 1>that offer. Answer. Initially, I believe almost all the members

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<v Speaker 1>were here. Oh, I'm sorry, you mean here when we

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<v Speaker 1>came to gets cut off by Emmer. How many members

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<v Speaker 1>that you invited pursue into the briefing that you were at?

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<v Speaker 1>How many members actually took you up on that offer? Answer?

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<v Speaker 1>You mean come to our office? Question? Correct answer. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe any did. Question and BONDI cuts them off. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Yes, some, I'm sorry, some of the Republican

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<v Speaker 1>members did. Yes, Representative Bobert Cloud and Perry maybe represented

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<v Speaker 1>Birchant maybe, yeah, I'm sorry, yes, three, I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>on the Democrat side. No Democrats took us up on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I did meet at one point, but she is not

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<v Speaker 1>on the committee. Representative Jayapel Emmer question and to be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>no Democrats on the committee took you up on that offer? Answer? No, okay, cool?

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<v Speaker 1>How many Republicans showed up to talk to Les Wexner like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, stop with the games, this is bullshit? Question

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<v Speaker 1>and during that briefing gets cut off by BONDI, to

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<v Speaker 1>my knowledge, no to meet with anyone in my office,

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<v Speaker 1>but not with me. Question, thank you? And during the

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<v Speaker 1>briefing in March. Did any Democrat ask you substantive questions

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<v Speaker 1>as to relating to the Epstein and Maxwell matter? Answer

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<v Speaker 1>the briefing that we had here in Congress. No. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>As Deputy Attorney General Blanche and I continue to brief you,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it was for an hour and a half

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<v Speaker 1>and answer your questions. Yeah, about the dow. This lady's unbelievable,

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<v Speaker 1>couple questions. Do you have any knowledge as to why

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<v Speaker 1>the Biden administration did not release any files related to

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn Maxwell. Answer No, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any knowledge on that. Nor do I have any knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>whether any of these members of Congress ask that they

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<v Speaker 1>be released during the Biden administration. My understanding is none

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<v Speaker 1>of them did to my knowledge. May be representative Conna

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<v Speaker 1>that is such a weak ass out. So because the

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<v Speaker 1>last team didn't do a good job, we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to do a good job either. Question Attorney General BONDI,

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<v Speaker 1>given the number of times you testified on the subject,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you are no longer involved in DJ matters.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything that you have not been asked today

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<v Speaker 1>or any other setting that you believe is relevant to

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<v Speaker 1>this committee's investigation. Answer No, Chairman, Comer, Madam Attorney General,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for being here today. You've answered questions going

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<v Speaker 1>back to the briefing that we had. You've answered four

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<v Speaker 1>hours worth of questions, responsive from our requests. So we

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<v Speaker 1>concludes the majority's questions. So thank you again for being

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<v Speaker 1>here and answering our questions. BONDI, thank you, Comer. That

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<v Speaker 1>concludes the majority's questions. Emmer, we can go off record. We'redacted, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're back on the record, Miss Bondie. I understand

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<v Speaker 1>you have a clarification you'd like to make. Bondy, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>regarding the documents in the reading room, when I said

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<v Speaker 1>all six million were available, I know I said the

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<v Speaker 1>duplicative ones were, but I want to clarify, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just informed of this that the unresponsive documents that

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<v Speaker 1>the reading room, nor is anything that contains privileged material.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I could clarify that, and then one more

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<v Speaker 1>point is Representative Garcia outside saying that I quote through

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<v Speaker 1>Todd on placing the blame on Todd Blanche. That is

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent incorrect. Todd Blanche is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>blaming anything on Todd, but you are. We just read

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<v Speaker 1>the transcript ourselves redacted. Thank you for the clarification, BONDI,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. Question. I will also clarify from the transcript

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<v Speaker 1>that Congressman Congresswoman Lee was president at the previous round,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, miss Bondi, I would like to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>a few questions about the Epstein Files Transparency Act, which

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<v Speaker 1>on November nineteenth of last year, President Trump signed EFTA,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what we'll call it, EFTA into law. Just

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<v Speaker 1>starting with a few questions about the law's passage. It

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<v Speaker 1>was publicly reported that the week before the bill passed

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<v Speaker 1>here in Congress, President Trump met with Congressman Lauren Bobert

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<v Speaker 1>in the White House Situation Room in an attempt to

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<v Speaker 1>convince her to vote against the bill. Were you present

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<v Speaker 1>at that meeting? Answer? I was president at the meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>I was president at the meeting. Aresident Trump was not

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<v Speaker 1>president at the meeting. Question that's very helpful, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your recollection of who was president at the meeting? Answer? Myself,

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<v Speaker 1>Deputy Attorney General Blanche Legal Affairs, which would be James

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<v Speaker 1>Blair and James Braid. I believe Cash Betel. Perhaps we'd

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<v Speaker 1>have to ask Representative Bobert question. I understand. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>The public reporting has characterized the meeting as an effort

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<v Speaker 1>to persuade Miss Bobert to vote against the bill. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that your recollection of the meeting? Answer? I recall the

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<v Speaker 1>discussion with her was the concern about passing the bill

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<v Speaker 1>would jeopardize the identity of victims, which is exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>ended up happening. After the bill was passed, victims' names

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<v Speaker 1>were inadvertently released. I recall the topic being protecting victims,

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<v Speaker 1>and there may have been a couple more individuals in

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<v Speaker 1>the meeting. I'm sorry, I can't recall. We can ask

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<v Speaker 1>Representative Bobert for her recollection question. Thank you answer, But

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump was not at the meeting. Question, got it?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you recall any concerns being discussed in that meeting

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<v Speaker 1>beyond survivor identity? Answer? Survivor identity. That's a good way

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<v Speaker 1>of putting it. Survivor identity. Victim's identity was the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I recall at this time. But we can

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<v Speaker 1>ask Representative Bobert. Question. It was publicly reported that at

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<v Speaker 1>least one of the members may have been pressured by

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<v Speaker 1>the administration the vote against the act. Do you recall

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<v Speaker 1>or are you aware of a similar meeting to the

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<v Speaker 1>one we talked about? Answer? No, not to my knowledge. Question.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you answer, I don't recall. Question you don't recall

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<v Speaker 1>you're not aware of such a meeting either? Away, Is

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<v Speaker 1>that right? Answer? Yes? All right, folks. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>wrap up right here and in the next episode dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with the topic, We're gonna pick up where we left off.

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<v Speaker 1>All the information that goes with this episode can be

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<v Speaker 1>found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to dive right back in and pick up

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<v Speaker 1>where we left off with Pam Bondi in her interview

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<v Speaker 1>with Congress. Question, I'd like to spend a little more

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<v Speaker 1>time on the document release themselves. So, as you well know,

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<v Speaker 1>on December nineteenth, which was with the thirty day statutory deadline,

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<v Speaker 1>the department released about four thousand files. Then over the

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<v Speaker 1>next few days there were three other releases, and then

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<v Speaker 1>on January thirtieth of this year, a big release of

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<v Speaker 1>about three and a half million documents, which the Department

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<v Speaker 1>said fulfilled its duties under the Act. You have touched

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<v Speaker 1>on this today, so I don't want you to repeat yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>but what do you recall as far as the process

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<v Speaker 1>for that first production, for working with survivors councils, any

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<v Speaker 1>recollection of how that process functioned? Answer? No question, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Would mister Blanche probably have a more detailed understanding of

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<v Speaker 1>that answer or some of his staff question. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a letter from mister Blanche on the day of that

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<v Speaker 1>first production that listed the components of DOJ that were

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<v Speaker 1>included in the search in the poll, and that was FBI.

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<v Speaker 1>I can give you a minute it may be one

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<v Speaker 1>of the exhibits that was already passed out. Bondy, what

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<v Speaker 1>was the date of that question. I think that was

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<v Speaker 1>on December nineteenth, Dylan. I don't think that's been marked

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<v Speaker 1>as an exhibit redacted. It's literally just a few agencies. Bondy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have the document, Dylan, it hasn't been marked

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<v Speaker 1>redacted question. Okay, Yeah, it was just telling Congress that OIG,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, inside of DOJ, the Office of the Inspector

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<v Speaker 1>General of the FBI, of course, the Bureau of Prisons,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes sense, SDNY and SDFL, the two jurisdictions in

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<v Speaker 1>which the two Epstein investigations occurred. We were just wondering

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<v Speaker 1>whether other components of dj such as the DEA, would

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<v Speaker 1>have been part of the collection process. Dylan. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the witness is entitled to see the document before she

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<v Speaker 1>answers questions about it redacted. That's fine, we can do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Give us a second to pull it out, Bondi. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rely on what Deputy Attorney General Blanche put in

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<v Speaker 1>writing regarding the components who were involved. Question, and that'll

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<v Speaker 1>save us some time and paper. Would it be your

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<v Speaker 1>understanding that if Deputy Blanche listed components, then that would

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<v Speaker 1>be your best understanding of the components. Answer yes, question okay,

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<v Speaker 1>in that case, I don't think we have to do

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<v Speaker 1>the whole exhibit. Answer. And I don't recall the DEA

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<v Speaker 1>being involved. Question okay, thank you? Answer whether they were

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<v Speaker 1>or weren't? Question. On December twenty second, the DOJ released

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<v Speaker 1>about eleven thousand documents. That was the third production of documents.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a four or five day period in which

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<v Speaker 1>I think there were three or four releases. One of

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<v Speaker 1>them on December twenty second, had some redaction related challenges.

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<v Speaker 1>You could use software to get around some of the

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<v Speaker 1>redactions or copy in pasting. Do you recall whether the

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<v Speaker 1>department had an understanding of those problems before those documents

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<v Speaker 1>were released? Answer, oh, I don't believe we did. I

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<v Speaker 1>do recall that there were problems after the fact. Question.

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<v Speaker 1>On December twenty third, about thirty thousand additional pages were

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<v Speaker 1>released the fourth production. That production included a higher volume

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<v Speaker 1>of material related to President Trump. It included some allegations

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<v Speaker 1>against President Trump, and so the he gets cut off

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<v Speaker 1>by Pam BONDI can I clarify question? Yeah, answer, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you said December wasn't that in August when the

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three thousand pages were released. Question. December twenty third

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<v Speaker 1>of last year the Department's fourth EFTA production and that

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<v Speaker 1>had that had about thirty thousand pages of content. Is

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<v Speaker 1>our understanding, Bondy, I don't specifically recall that, other than

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<v Speaker 1>it was a rolling release of documents as they came in,

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<v Speaker 1>because we continued to get additional documents after EFTA was passed,

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<v Speaker 1>as we were attempting to comply with the order, and

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that a significant amount, almost maybe a million

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<v Speaker 1>pages was added from SDNY Southern District of New York. Question.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just going to ask. On the day of

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<v Speaker 1>that release, December twenty third, the Department released a statement

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<v Speaker 1>calling the claims against President Trump that were in the

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<v Speaker 1>release untrue and sensationalist and unfounded and false. And we

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to ask, to the best of your knowledge,

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<v Speaker 1>were any of the allegations against President Trump that were

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<v Speaker 1>included in that release investigated by the Department of Justice? Answer?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that they were investigated by any Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice, And that might be a question for the

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<v Speaker 1>Biden administration because if I recall it, was all just

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<v Speaker 1>before the twenty twenty election, the salacious allegations, always somebody else,

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<v Speaker 1>always pointing the finger somewhere else. I'm done with Maga,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done with Pam Bondy, and I'm done with Donald Trump. Question.

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<v Speaker 1>The next day, and I think you just alluded to this,

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<v Speaker 1>the Department tweeted that SDNY and the FBI had discovered

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<v Speaker 1>a million more documents. Do you have any recollection of

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<v Speaker 1>the circumstances of the discovery of those documents? Answer? No,

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<v Speaker 1>But it made it very difficult to comply within the

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<v Speaker 1>thirty days question. On January thirtieth, there was the largest

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<v Speaker 1>release of documents, about three and a half million pages.

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<v Speaker 1>Deputy Attorney General Blanche at the time wrote another letter

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<v Speaker 1>to Congress. It's been discussed here today. There was the

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<v Speaker 1>phrase that more than six million pages had been identified

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<v Speaker 1>as potentially responsive and the volume. The total volume or

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<v Speaker 1>release ended up being around three and a half million pages.

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<v Speaker 1>Three and a half million and six million those were

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<v Speaker 1>page counts. Do you have an understanding or a recollection

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<v Speaker 1>of how many documents were potentially responsive and documents produced?

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<v Speaker 1>Answered no, And to the best of my knowledge, I asked,

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<v Speaker 1>I answered that question previously as to why there were

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<v Speaker 1>so many documents. Question, do you have an understanding or

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<v Speaker 1>recollection as to how many documents were ultimately tagged as unresponsive? Dylan,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this has been asked and answered, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can answer it again, Bondie. Not an exact amount redacted?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any recollection or understanding of how many

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<v Speaker 1>documents were tagged as duplicative? Dylan, Same, Bondy same. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't recall the exact number redacted. There I think was

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<v Speaker 1>a figure in this letter from mister Blanche, and we

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<v Speaker 1>can just ask him, but I think he had said

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<v Speaker 1>around two hundred thousand pages were adacted or withheld for privilege. Answer, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just looking for that letter that I

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<v Speaker 1>believe you had provided to me, and I would refer

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<v Speaker 1>to that from ag Blanche as to the number of

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<v Speaker 1>documents that fell into each category, and that's the letter

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<v Speaker 1>that you provided to me, dated February fourteenth, twenty twenty six. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I would assume, But let me just ask

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<v Speaker 1>for the record. If mister Blanche says, hey, around two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand pages were redacted or withheld for privilege, if

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted to understand, well, how many of those pages

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<v Speaker 1>were redacted, but how many were withheld? That would not

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<v Speaker 1>be the question that you would have involvement with answer

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<v Speaker 1>correct question, Mister Blanchers, staff would have an understanding of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right, Bondie answer correct question, Thank you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume the same answer would apply for trying

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<v Speaker 1>to understand how many documents were withheld under different categories

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<v Speaker 1>of statutory withholdings. Is that correct? Answer? Correct? Could I

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<v Speaker 1>add one more thing question? Of course? Answer a privilege

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<v Speaker 1>was produced to you. I don't believe you've shown me

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<v Speaker 1>that today in the documents question. Thank you. I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to touch on victim related redaction challenges, which have been

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<v Speaker 1>discussed to some extent here. I would like to just

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<v Speaker 1>introduce as minority exhibit an example of that problem Bondie

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<v Speaker 1>Minority exhibits. CE was Mark four identification redacted. I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you a moment to look that over. Mister Gwynn Council,

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just clarify something. We're confident that the way

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<v Speaker 1>this proceeding and these exhibits are going to be treated,

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<v Speaker 1>the way that this transcript and these exhibits, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>concerned with introducing this into the record redacted. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to read any of the identifying information you see

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<v Speaker 1>on the document. Gwinn Okay, great, BONDI. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>introduced to the record though, so that'll be sealed redacted. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>That will not be publicly available redacted. Question, so if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a moment to look this over, this is

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<v Speaker 1>an email that was originally included in the January thirtieth

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<v Speaker 1>production from the Department. I know that there's been some

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<v Speaker 1>public discussion of this email previously. You may have discussed

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<v Speaker 1>this email previously. I think from our point of view,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a difficult email to understand. The subject is

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein Victim List. There's a list of names. The vast

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<v Speaker 1>majority of those names are not redacted. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a sense or understanding of how this document could have

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<v Speaker 1>gone unredacted? Answer? No, but I would believe it's not intentional.

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<v Speaker 1>We had hundreds of lawyers that were working around the

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<v Speaker 1>clock using their best efforts to protect victims, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was the fear of human error, working such long hours

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<v Speaker 1>to get three million pages plus of documents out within

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<v Speaker 1>thirty days. Why not just use AI? Why not just

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<v Speaker 1>use the technology that's available to you? Bondie I guess

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<v Speaker 1>she was busy worrying about the DAL though. Question is

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<v Speaker 1>it your best understanding that every document that was released

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<v Speaker 1>did experience the full internal review process? In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>every document benefited from a first level review and QC's

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<v Speaker 1>won appropriate. Answer I believe so. Question did you ever

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<v Speaker 1>receive any information or understanding as to how this particular

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<v Speaker 1>document could have made it through any kind of review process?

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<v Speaker 1>Answer no, I do recall that I don't know whichever

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<v Speaker 1>it was, but one of the reviewers was working, I believe,

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<v Speaker 1>very long hours and didn't properly hit saved after the

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<v Speaker 1>redactions were done, and I believe Deputy Attorney General at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Blanche addressed that I don't know if this

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<v Speaker 1>is the particular document question I was just going to

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<v Speaker 1>I think mister Blanche also mentioned that in the briefing,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know whether that issue ended up affecting this

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<v Speaker 1>document or not. Answer yes, question I think from a

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<v Speaker 1>public point of view, the Department, by its own admission,

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<v Speaker 1>has taken down several thousand doctors documents that mistakenly implicated

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<v Speaker 1>to Reviver's identity or personal information. Do you have a

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<v Speaker 1>personal perception of how the Department's victim redaction process performed, Bondie, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if one victim's name is released, it didn't perform properly,

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<v Speaker 1>and multiple victims' names were released, and of course that,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, was done inadvertently, and everyone I knew

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<v Speaker 1>involved in the process cared deeply about protecting the identity

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<v Speaker 1>of the victim's question. Did you gain any understanding of

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<v Speaker 1>whether there were particular common themes that were emerging in

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<v Speaker 1>those mistakes, whether it was somebody not hitting save I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure why that is so bothersome to you. It

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<v Speaker 1>helps us to have oversight of the process. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have an understanding whether it was technical review or a

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<v Speaker 1>process issue. Answer? I'm not aware other than what I

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<v Speaker 1>just mentioned. Question. Thank you answer, And Deputy Attorney General

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<v Speaker 1>Blanche at the time addressed, I believe all the questions

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<v Speaker 1>here when he came with me a few months ago

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss all of these issues, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you were present for that. She always has to try

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<v Speaker 1>and get a dig in. Here's an idea, save your

646
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:10.559
<v Speaker 1>stupid ass commentary and answer the questions. And frankly, I

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<v Speaker 1>really hope whoever the next administration is launches an investigation

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<v Speaker 1>into PAMBONDI. Question in your review, do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>the Department owes anything, whether that's an apology or financial

650
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<v Speaker 1>compensation to survivors whose identities were exposed in the document released. Answer?

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<v Speaker 1>We absolutely owe an apology to any victim's name anytime

652
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<v Speaker 1>it's inadvertently released. Question. I'd like to touch on the

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<v Speaker 1>claim that some material may have been over redacted or

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<v Speaker 1>removed for possibly political reasons, and so I will introduce

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<v Speaker 1>as minority Exhibit D this photograph. Question. You may be

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with it. This is a photograph that was introduced

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<v Speaker 1>on January thirtieth. It appears to be and the committee's

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<v Speaker 1>understanding is that it is a photograph of Commerce Secretary

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<v Speaker 1>Howard Lutnik and other individuals with mister Epstein on mister

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein's Island in the US Virgin Islands. The photo was

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<v Speaker 1>reportedly included in the initial production on January thirtieth, then

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<v Speaker 1>taken down and then reposted after their repress inquiries on

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<v Speaker 1>the subject. Do you have any understanding of why this

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<v Speaker 1>image was taken down? Answer? I do. I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>Deputy Attorney General Blanche or as staff believed that this

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<v Speaker 1>was ai for some reason and not real. It was

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<v Speaker 1>taken down, but it was put back up. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure if it was intentionally taken down, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>put back up because it was confirmed that it was

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<v Speaker 1>Howard Lutnik and his family. Question do you have any

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<v Speaker 1>direct or indirect knowledge of the photo being taken down

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<v Speaker 1>for political reasons? Answer? No question. I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>introduce as minority exhibit E one more similar image. Harmeat

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<v Speaker 1>Dylan jumps in, Is that D redacted? Sorry, that's D Dylan,

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<v Speaker 1>know it's E redacted. It's E. The Lutnik photo is D.

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<v Speaker 1>The new exhibit is Z. Question. I don't know whether

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen this image before. It was part of the

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<v Speaker 1>production on December nineteenth of last year. It shows a

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<v Speaker 1>series of photographs taken at one of mister Epstein's homes.

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<v Speaker 1>It has bates number EFTA zero zero zero zero zero

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<v Speaker 1>four six eight. In the bottom left portion of the photograph,

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<v Speaker 1>there's another photograph of what appears to be President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>prior to being president, it would seem and Glenn Maxwell.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a publicly known photograph, and so it's a question

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<v Speaker 1>of public record that the first Lady, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>mister Epstein are obscured in the middle of that photograph

687
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<v Speaker 1>underneath on the desk here, and there's one more image.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to tell. I think there's a view of

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<v Speaker 1>that image on top of the image I just described

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<v Speaker 1>as President Trump prior to being on an office with

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<v Speaker 1>a group of women in bathing suits. This photograph, this

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<v Speaker 1>photo was originally included in the first December nineteenth production,

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<v Speaker 1>same pattern. Where it went down and when it came

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<v Speaker 1>back up. Do you have any understanding of why that

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<v Speaker 1>image was taken down? Answer no. Question do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any direct or indirect knowledge of this photo being taken

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<v Speaker 1>down for political reasons? Answer no. All right, folks, We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna wrap up right here, and in the next episode

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with the topic, we're gonna pick up where we

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<v Speaker 1>left off. All the information that goes with this episode

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<v Speaker 1>can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, we're getting right back to the Pam Bondi

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<v Speaker 1>interview with Congress. Question. I'd like to ask about a

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<v Speaker 1>woman who was interviewed by the FBI four times and

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<v Speaker 1>who accused mister Epstein and President and Trump of sexual misconduct.

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<v Speaker 1>The January thirtieth production contained one of her interview summaries,

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<v Speaker 1>but not the other three interview summaries, and in those

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<v Speaker 1>other interviews, the woman had accused President Trump of sexual assault.

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<v Speaker 1>The Department subsequently released those other interview notes on March

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<v Speaker 1>fifth and said that they had been incorrectly coded as duplicative.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any understanding of how these interview summaries

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<v Speaker 1>came to be incorrectly coded as duplicative, Bondie, other than

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<v Speaker 1>Deputy Attorney General Blanche's statement that it was I believe

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<v Speaker 1>he said incorrectly labeled because they were already mentioned in

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<v Speaker 1>a summary, so it popped in as duplicative, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they were in fact put back online. And that's the

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<v Speaker 1>best of my recollection from his statements. Question, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>And is it your perception that if we wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>get more granular and try to understand what exactly happened

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<v Speaker 1>with these documents, that mister Blanche would be a logical

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<v Speaker 1>starting point. Answer? Well, I believe he came to this

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<v Speaker 1>committee and I think he answered that question. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that he addressed that in front of this committee already. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have any knowledge of any documents related to

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<v Speaker 1>this woman? And the claim being withheld from a DOJ

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<v Speaker 1>production due to political considerations. Answer no question. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have any understanding of the extent to which this woman's

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<v Speaker 1>allegations were investigated by the FBI or the deal? Answer

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<v Speaker 1>no question. Our best understanding is that there are still

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<v Speaker 1>a few more documents linked to this woman's serial number

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<v Speaker 1>that have not been released. Do you have any understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of those documents and their release status? Answer that is

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<v Speaker 1>not my understanding, so no question. The woman's friend was

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<v Speaker 1>also interviewed, and her interview was linked to different serial number.

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<v Speaker 1>There's only one interview summary of the friend as far

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<v Speaker 1>as we know, that's been released. Do you have any

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge of any other documents under the friend's serial number

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<v Speaker 1>being withheld? Answer no, mister Ginn hold on, council. Can

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<v Speaker 1>I just ask you a question? And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it's possible to do this appropriately on the record,

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<v Speaker 1>given the nature of the person you're talking about. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure the Attorney General knows the identity of

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<v Speaker 1>the person you're referring to. BONDI I don't gin And,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think it's hard for her to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that she's correctly answering the questions about that person's status

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<v Speaker 1>and the like her meet Dylan, Yeah, redacted. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just the witness best understanding, whatever the understanding is, Dylan.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not playing a game here, are we? Redacted? I

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<v Speaker 1>think only you are? Dylan, ask her the answers. She

751
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<v Speaker 1>gets cut off. I think you're the only one who is, Dylan,

752
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<v Speaker 1>Or do you just want to play a shell game? Redacted?

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<v Speaker 1>So the question and every question is to the best

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<v Speaker 1>of the witnesses understanding, and if the witness lacks the

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<v Speaker 1>understanding that you're describing, that's the answer, Dylan. If there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lack of foundation in this question, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>a basis not to answer it. BONDI, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>the document? Redacted? We may. I think I'm willing to

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<v Speaker 1>limit it to do you have an understanding of any

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<v Speaker 1>document related to the woman or any friend of the

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<v Speaker 1>woman being with hell by the DOJ Dylan, what woman?

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<v Speaker 1>Lack of foundation? Mister Ginn, who is the woman? Redacted? Redacted?

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have the rules of evidence here, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think the witness understands. The initial discussion gets cut off

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<v Speaker 1>by gin I think the witness, I think she understands,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know if she does, because we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who the woman is. Bondie. I believe that the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice released everything legally that they could release

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<v Speaker 1>under the law. I don't know who you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>specifically redacted, okay, answer, but I believe the Department in

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<v Speaker 1>good faith complied with the Epstein Act. Question thank you

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<v Speaker 1>one more? Which is similar category and to the best

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<v Speaker 1>of your knowledge or awareness, there was an interview in

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<v Speaker 1>January thirtieth production of an Epstein's survivor who said that

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<v Speaker 1>when she was thirteen, Epstein took her to meet President Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>and Epstein said to Trump not president at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>so then Donald Trump. But the interview reflects that Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>said to Trump, this is a good one. Huh. That

779
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<v Speaker 1>document was taken down and then put back up. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have any knowledge of why that document I just

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<v Speaker 1>described would have been taken down and putting back up? Answer?

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<v Speaker 1>Not that specific document unless it was what we discussed earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>one that was already in a summary, listed in a summary,

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<v Speaker 1>orfore it was duplicative. Consider duplicative but then put back up?

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<v Speaker 1>Question thank you, Bondie. And I believe the Deputy Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>General at the time discussed that already. With this committee redacted,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to turn it over to some members who

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<v Speaker 1>have questions of their own. Mister min thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you being here, and again I'm sorry about

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<v Speaker 1>your circumstances of your current situation. I wanted to first

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<v Speaker 1>just ask about the scope of production, something you touched

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<v Speaker 1>on earlier. As you've said, the DOJ received approximately six

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<v Speaker 1>million documents, and under your and possibly then Deputy ag

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney Blanche's direction, the DOJ released roughly three million of

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<v Speaker 1>those documents. And I think you said earlier that three

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<v Speaker 1>million documents that were not released were withheld because quote

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<v Speaker 1>much of it was duplicative, some was privileged, and some

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<v Speaker 1>material had nothing to do with Epstein. Does that sound accurate, Bondy?

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<v Speaker 1>I believe there. I've answered this previously. God, she's literally

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<v Speaker 1>one of the worst human beings ever. All the people

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<v Speaker 1>that cried about Merrick Carlin, I was one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you at now? Nothing to say here, mister Minn.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just recharacterizing what you said earlier. Does that sound

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<v Speaker 1>familiar to you, that basically three million documents were not

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<v Speaker 1>produced because it was duplicative, privileged, and had nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with Epstein, BONDI, I would rely on the list

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<v Speaker 1>that we discussed that Deputy Attorney General Blanche released As

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<v Speaker 1>to the reason, Min, do you mind speaking into the mic?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't really hear you too well, Bondie, I would

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<v Speaker 1>rely on the list that Deputy Attorney General Blanche at

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<v Speaker 1>the time released, given the reasons why things were withheld. Men.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually just quoting what you said earlier to the best

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<v Speaker 1>I was able to transcribe it. But again you've said,

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<v Speaker 1>much of it is duplicative, some of it was privileged,

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<v Speaker 1>and some had nothing to do with Epstein. And I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I'm just curious how many fell into each bucket,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how many were duplicative, how many were privileged,

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<v Speaker 1>how many had nothing to do with Epstein. Dylan, this

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<v Speaker 1>has already been out answered, Min. Okay, maybe I missed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you mind answering the question? Dylan, this has been

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<v Speaker 1>asked and answered repeatedly. If you want to check, Min,

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00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:10.239
<v Speaker 1>if you don't know, I think I missed it, and

823
00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:12.280
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's hard to hear. So if you don't want

824
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<v Speaker 1>to answer, Dylan, well you may have missed it because

825
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:21.039
<v Speaker 1>you aren't here. Yo, are these people Okay, seriously, has

826
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<v Speaker 1>professionalism just went out the window? Act accordingly missed? Dylan.

827
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<v Speaker 1>I believe you were out doing an interview and missed it.

828
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<v Speaker 1>But what happened? We discussed it and I said, I'm

829
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<v Speaker 1>not sure the exact number of documents, but that is

830
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<v Speaker 1>listed somewhere. Maybe she was busy looking at the dow Again,

831
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<v Speaker 1>Min okay, Bondi, I believe it's been released to you. Min,

832
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<v Speaker 1>So I want to drill down on the privileged aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of that. Do you know what type of privilege was

834
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<v Speaker 1>being asserted or is that a question for mister blanche Dylan. Again,

835
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<v Speaker 1>this has been asked and answered. Min Okay, Dylan, Again,

836
00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:01.480
<v Speaker 1>you were not in the room Redactediness can answer that. Min.

837
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:05.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm a member. I'm asking my own questions. Dylan, You're

838
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.360
<v Speaker 1>not on this side of the table redacted. Let her

839
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<v Speaker 1>figure it out, Bondie. I've answered that multiple times, Min.

840
00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Would you mind answering again? BONDI know what's in the transcript.

841
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<v Speaker 1>Min Okay, I guess I just wanted you had said

842
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:19.920
<v Speaker 1>earlier that the prosecution memo would be the type of

843
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:24.800
<v Speaker 1>evidence that's privileged. Would the documents of evidence assembly by

844
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<v Speaker 1>the collected by the FBI and dj that went into

845
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:31.360
<v Speaker 1>the decision to prosecute or not prosecute. Would that also

846
00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:36.199
<v Speaker 1>be considered privileged under the DOJ's view of what was produced? Bondi,

847
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:40.599
<v Speaker 1>somehow your microphone is echoing min okay, when we're talking

848
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:43.280
<v Speaker 1>about what is privileged, you said earlier that a prosecution

849
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<v Speaker 1>memo would be the type of document that's privileged. Would

850
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:49.360
<v Speaker 1>that document or evidence collected by the FBI and DOJ

851
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:52.360
<v Speaker 1>that went into a decision to prosecute or not prosecute,

852
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:55.480
<v Speaker 1>would that also be considered privilege when the DOJ was

853
00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:58.679
<v Speaker 1>deciding whether or not to produce evidence to produce any

854
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:01.559
<v Speaker 1>of the Epstein files. Bondy, I'd have to look at

855
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:05.079
<v Speaker 1>the specific document, Min. I'm just asking a general question.

856
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Were the documents withheld? And specifically, I guess I want

857
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:11.440
<v Speaker 1>to get to the question the three h two witness

858
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:14.760
<v Speaker 1>statements which do not seem to have been produced, and

859
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:17.159
<v Speaker 1>we have had a lot of survivors as noted, was

860
00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:20.840
<v Speaker 1>noted as for those three oh two witness statements for theirselves,

861
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:24.079
<v Speaker 1>the ones that were transcribed that they took many years ago,

862
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:28.599
<v Speaker 1>those apparently were withheld. What's the basis for that withholding

863
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:33.000
<v Speaker 1>and why were they not produced, Bondy, As I said earlier,

864
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:35.039
<v Speaker 1>I would rely on the basis for any withholding of

865
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:38.800
<v Speaker 1>documents in the memo that Deputy Attorney General Blanche released,

866
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:42.239
<v Speaker 1>laying out all the reasons. Min. So you have no knowledge,

867
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Bondi continues, items not being released. Men, you have no

868
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:48.400
<v Speaker 1>knowledge or you were not in charge. You had no

869
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:51.599
<v Speaker 1>direction on these decisions on what to withhold, Bondi. I

870
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:54.960
<v Speaker 1>did not do the review. I've said that earlier. Men, right,

871
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:57.840
<v Speaker 1>but there seems to have been a systemic policy in

872
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:00.480
<v Speaker 1>place to have withheld certain documents for ad to the

873
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:03.679
<v Speaker 1>decision to prosecute or not prosecute. I'm just trying to

874
00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:06.599
<v Speaker 1>clarify if that was the case, Bondi, Well, I don't

875
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:09.840
<v Speaker 1>agree with your assessment of systemic. She gets cut off

876
00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:12.559
<v Speaker 1>by men. How would you characterize what was allowed to

877
00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:16.159
<v Speaker 1>be produced? Then? In this case, Bondy, I believe that

878
00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:19.400
<v Speaker 1>the Department of Justice acted in good faith in releasing

879
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.280
<v Speaker 1>all the documents permissible under the law, and I would

880
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:25.320
<v Speaker 1>refer you it again to the Deputy Attorney General's memo,

881
00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:28.559
<v Speaker 1>and he came in here before this body to discuss

882
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:32.599
<v Speaker 1>all these topics and all of you walked out men,

883
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:34.880
<v Speaker 1>so we will have to ask mister Blanche that I

884
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:38.559
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. Dylan, please don't talk over the witness. Min

885
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:41.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I have one minute left, so I'm going

886
00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:43.960
<v Speaker 1>to reclaim. They're just going through all these fights now

887
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:46.679
<v Speaker 1>and it's stupid, a waste of time, exactly what we

888
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:51.079
<v Speaker 1>don't need. Who cares about Dave min whatever his name

889
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:55.440
<v Speaker 1>is and Pam Bondi in their stupid little fight. Min.

890
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:57.760
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just going to I apologize for the interruption,

891
00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:00.480
<v Speaker 1>but this is the nature of this. Unfortunately, I have

892
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:03.880
<v Speaker 1>a question about the redactions or non redactions of survivors

893
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:06.800
<v Speaker 1>personal information. I know you have described this as a

894
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:09.519
<v Speaker 1>situation where you had a lot of documents to produce.

895
00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:12.239
<v Speaker 1>I know you have said that mister Stanley Woodward was

896
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:16.199
<v Speaker 1>primarily responsible for the review and production of these documents.

897
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I guess my question is this. First of all, there

898
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:21.480
<v Speaker 1>were a number of nude photos allowed to be produced,

899
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<v Speaker 1>and again I know that was not under your purview.

900
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:27.199
<v Speaker 1>That seems to me to be shocking, like this does

901
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:30.199
<v Speaker 1>not seem like something that should ever be produced, and

902
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:32.599
<v Speaker 1>any attorney in a law firm that allowed something like

903
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:35.079
<v Speaker 1>that to be produced in public in this context would

904
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:38.280
<v Speaker 1>be fired. So I guess my question is were there

905
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:43.440
<v Speaker 1>any disciplinary proceedings taken against any attorneys or otherwise who

906
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:46.840
<v Speaker 1>allowed for improper identifying information about the victims to be

907
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:51.239
<v Speaker 1>produced or nude photos to be produced? Bondy. As I

908
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:53.800
<v Speaker 1>said earlier, the Department of Justice, under the law that

909
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:57.119
<v Speaker 1>you voted for, gave us thirty days to release approximately

910
00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:01.320
<v Speaker 1>thirty million dilan three million, Bondie, I'm sorry, thirty days

911
00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:05.119
<v Speaker 1>to release approximately three million documents. Six million were reviewed,

912
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:08.239
<v Speaker 1>and during that time we were very concerned that there

913
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:10.760
<v Speaker 1>would be errors, and that's why we produced on a

914
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:13.760
<v Speaker 1>rolling release of documents. But I believe everyone acted in

915
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:15.960
<v Speaker 1>good faith. I hope they did in doing the best

916
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:19.320
<v Speaker 1>they could. But yes, there was human error. Yes, we've

917
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:22.840
<v Speaker 1>discussed that multiple times. Min. I will just note that

918
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:25.039
<v Speaker 1>it took you much longer than thirty days to produce,

919
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:28.000
<v Speaker 1>and these were nude photos. These were not like a

920
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:30.519
<v Speaker 1>line that was missed. It's really hard for me to

921
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:33.719
<v Speaker 1>imagine that this was done in good faith. But with that,

922
00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I yield back. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up

923
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:38.199
<v Speaker 1>right here and in the next episode, dealing with the topic,

924
00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:40.480
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna pick up where we left off. All the

925
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:43.559
<v Speaker 1>information that goes with this episode can be found in

926
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:46.599
<v Speaker 1>the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome to another

927
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:50.599
<v Speaker 1>episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're gonna

928
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:53.480
<v Speaker 1>pick up where we left off with Pam Bondi and

929
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:57.840
<v Speaker 1>her chat with the Congressional Oversight Committee, and we're picking

930
00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:03.920
<v Speaker 1>up with questioning being done by I, Miss Stansbury. Well

931
00:52:03.960 --> 00:52:06.559
<v Speaker 1>I get started. I'm going to ask if staff can

932
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:10.159
<v Speaker 1>pass out Exhibit F, which is the Epstein File Transparency Act,

933
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:12.679
<v Speaker 1>because I'm going to refer to a section in my

934
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:16.280
<v Speaker 1>later question. But former Attorney General, I want to ask

935
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:19.000
<v Speaker 1>about some more specific individuals who are named in the

936
00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:24.519
<v Speaker 1>files as potential perpetrators of crimes associated with Epstein. And

937
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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask, during your tenure as the AG,

938
00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:30.440
<v Speaker 1>to your knowledge, did the DOJ investigate any of the

939
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:34.119
<v Speaker 1>following individuals and so if you would answer yes or no,

940
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I'd appreciate it. Prince Andrew Bondi, I'm not sure if

941
00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:41.400
<v Speaker 1>he's subject of appending investigation. I'm not sure who is

942
00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:45.159
<v Speaker 1>or who is not subject to an investigation. As I

943
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:48.679
<v Speaker 1>stated earlier, Jay Clayton had opened an investigation in New York,

944
00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:51.239
<v Speaker 1>so I wouldn't be able to give you any names,

945
00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:55.119
<v Speaker 1>whether they were or were not, are or are not

946
00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:59.760
<v Speaker 1>being investigated or have been Stansbury. I appreciate that, BONDI.

947
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:03.559
<v Speaker 1>I would refer that to Jay Clayton Stansbury. I appreciate that.

948
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go ahead and go through the names,

949
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:09.960
<v Speaker 1>notwithstanding the comment you just made, because I do think

950
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<v Speaker 1>that it's important to have the record. Another prominent name

951
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:14.920
<v Speaker 1>is Leon Black. Do you know if there was any

952
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:19.119
<v Speaker 1>investigation pending or open during your tenure? BONDI. I would

953
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:26.119
<v Speaker 1>refer you again to Jay Clayton, Stansbury, Glen Dubin, BONDI,

954
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:28.880
<v Speaker 1>do you want to go through the list? Stansbury. Yeah,

955
00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:31.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go through the list, BONDI. Do you want

956
00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:33.159
<v Speaker 1>to go through it all? And then I can answer

957
00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:36.840
<v Speaker 1>if any of them Stansbury. Just for the record, let's

958
00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:40.679
<v Speaker 1>do each one. Glenn Dubin please, Bondy, I would refer

959
00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:44.719
<v Speaker 1>it to the Deputy Attorney General or Jay Clayton Stansbury, Okay,

960
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:49.639
<v Speaker 1>Jess Staley, Bondie, same answer, Stansbury, Les Wexner Bondie, Sam

961
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:57.599
<v Speaker 1>Answer Stansbury, Alan Dershowitz Bondie. Sam answer Stansbury, Paulo Zampoli Bondi,

962
00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:03.679
<v Speaker 1>Sam answer Stansbury, Donald Trump, Bondie, Sam answer Stansbury. When

963
00:54:03.719 --> 00:54:06.280
<v Speaker 1>you left the department in April, had you been briefed

964
00:54:06.320 --> 00:54:09.840
<v Speaker 1>on any investigation or any open cases regarding the Epstein

965
00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:13.239
<v Speaker 1>case at all? Bondie. I can't answer whether there is

966
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:16.760
<v Speaker 1>or not appending investigation into anyone and that includes all

967
00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:20.159
<v Speaker 1>the names that you listed, Stansbury. So is this sitting

968
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:23.320
<v Speaker 1>US Attorney General overseeing the case? And I understand that

969
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:25.960
<v Speaker 1>you referred to Todd Blanche many times as being the

970
00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:29.159
<v Speaker 1>managing supervisor of the case and the release of the files,

971
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:31.840
<v Speaker 1>you were not briefed on any of the prominent names,

972
00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:35.679
<v Speaker 1>including the President, and whether or not anyone was investigating

973
00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:40.480
<v Speaker 1>their appearance in the files. Bondie. It's privileged and protected information.

974
00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:44.400
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not going to discuss that, Stansbury. And which privilege?

975
00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Which privilege are you asserting? Dylan, Yeah, we're not having

976
00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:52.559
<v Speaker 1>to assert privilege. This is a transcribed interview. Stansbury. I'm

977
00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:56.239
<v Speaker 1>sorry the AG just asserted a privilege, Bondy. I'm not

978
00:54:56.239 --> 00:54:59.280
<v Speaker 1>going to answer that. Stansbury. You're not going to answer

979
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:01.480
<v Speaker 1>what kind of privilege you're asserting or you're not going

980
00:55:01.480 --> 00:55:04.719
<v Speaker 1>to answer the question, BONDI, I'm not going to answer

981
00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:08.280
<v Speaker 1>whether there was or was not pending investigations again into

982
00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:12.119
<v Speaker 1>anyone We've said that I've asked and answered. It's been

983
00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:16.960
<v Speaker 1>asked and answered this question multiple times, Stansbury. Well, Madam A. G.

984
00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:20.159
<v Speaker 1>The reason why I'm asking is because of Exhibit F,

985
00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:24.280
<v Speaker 1>which is the Epstein Files Transparency Act, which sets out

986
00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:26.920
<v Speaker 1>what files were required under the federal law to be

987
00:55:26.960 --> 00:55:31.239
<v Speaker 1>released to Congress and the public. And it specifically states

988
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<v Speaker 1>in the second page of the Act, as signed into

989
00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:38.760
<v Speaker 1>law by the President, that all internal DOJ communication, including emails, memos,

990
00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:43.320
<v Speaker 1>meeting notes concerning decisions to charge, not charge, investigate, or

991
00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:47.800
<v Speaker 1>decline to investigate epstein ER's associates were required to be

992
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:51.760
<v Speaker 1>disclosed by the Epstein File Transparency Act. And then it

993
00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:57.039
<v Speaker 1>has a list of permitted withholdings. And there is nothing

994
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<v Speaker 1>in this law that allows the assertion of any kind

995
00:55:59.639 --> 00:56:02.440
<v Speaker 1>of privile that you've discussed today. In fact, the law

996
00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:05.719
<v Speaker 1>was very explicit that those privileges could not be asserted.

997
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:08.320
<v Speaker 1>And so part of why I'm asking you if there's

998
00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:11.920
<v Speaker 1>a pending investigation into some of the individuals is because

999
00:56:11.960 --> 00:56:15.239
<v Speaker 1>their names were adacted in the publicly released files, and

1000
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:17.880
<v Speaker 1>when we looked at them unredacted as members of Congress,

1001
00:56:18.360 --> 00:56:21.280
<v Speaker 1>the only redactions that were permitted were for open cases.

1002
00:56:21.719 --> 00:56:25.800
<v Speaker 1>So I'm asking were their pending investigations into any of

1003
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:31.079
<v Speaker 1>these individuals, Dylan, that's asked and answered Bondie. I've answered

1004
00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:35.519
<v Speaker 1>the question, Stansbury. Okay, Well, I would assert then that

1005
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:37.719
<v Speaker 1>is a breaking of the law because the law is

1006
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:40.800
<v Speaker 1>very clear about what privilege and what material were supposed

1007
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:43.960
<v Speaker 1>to be released. And my final question is, you know,

1008
00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the survivors have made very clear the release of their names.

1009
00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:52.159
<v Speaker 1>There are personally identifiable information, home addresses, phone numbers, photographs

1010
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:54.679
<v Speaker 1>of many of them when they were miners, we're talking

1011
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:57.800
<v Speaker 1>children were released publicly. How would you answer for that?

1012
00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Do you personally feel responsible for that, Bondie? As I

1013
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:04.559
<v Speaker 1>said earlier, we were given thirty days to release three

1014
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:09.000
<v Speaker 1>million plus documents, and our concern, our primary concern, was

1015
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:12.199
<v Speaker 1>protecting the identity of the victims. And I believe everyone

1016
00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:15.280
<v Speaker 1>in the Department of Justice feels horrible when any victim's

1017
00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:20.679
<v Speaker 1>name or identifying information is released. Stansbury, But do you

1018
00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:24.880
<v Speaker 1>feel personally responsible at all, Bondie. I believe everyone who

1019
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:27.440
<v Speaker 1>was involved in the process would, and I believe you

1020
00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:30.519
<v Speaker 1>should too, because you were pressing us to get three

1021
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:35.159
<v Speaker 1>million pages out in thirty days and that was virtually impossible. Stansbury. Oh,

1022
00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not personally responsible for the Department of Justice. I

1023
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<v Speaker 1>don't work there. Bondie, you were telling us she gets

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00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:44.920
<v Speaker 1>cut off by Stansbury. BONDI cuts her off if I

1025
00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:47.880
<v Speaker 1>could finish. You were telling us to get Stansbury cuts

1026
00:57:47.880 --> 00:57:50.639
<v Speaker 1>her off. My question is about you, as the sitting

1027
00:57:50.679 --> 00:57:55.599
<v Speaker 1>Attorney General. You oversaw the implementation. Even if you delegated this,

1028
00:57:55.760 --> 00:57:58.920
<v Speaker 1>you were responsible. You're the named human in the Epstein

1029
00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:02.440
<v Speaker 1>files transparency. Yet, do you have any remorse over the

1030
00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:09.159
<v Speaker 1>release of Dylan jumps In? Okay, this verges on badgering, BONDI.

1031
00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I've she gets cut off by Dylan and tedious BONDI

1032
00:58:13.559 --> 00:58:16.800
<v Speaker 1>back at it. I've answered this question multiple times that

1033
00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:22.159
<v Speaker 1>we feel sorry for the victims whose names were released inadvertently. Stansbury. Well,

1034
00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:25.320
<v Speaker 1>for many of the victims, these women, they will not

1035
00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:27.639
<v Speaker 1>be able to reclaim their privacy. So I yield to

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00:58:27.679 --> 00:58:32.320
<v Speaker 1>the next member. Now it's mister Walkinshaw, Miss BONDI add

1037
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:33.960
<v Speaker 1>my name to the list of folks wishing you a

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00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:38.360
<v Speaker 1>speedy recovery. In March of twenty twenty five, FBI personnel

1039
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:41.360
<v Speaker 1>and we've discussed this already a little bit reviewed one

1040
00:58:41.440 --> 00:58:45.400
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand Epstein documents. That was long before the Transparency

1041
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Act passed, of course, so there wasn't a statutory framework

1042
00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:51.719
<v Speaker 1>for that review, at least not one specific to it.

1043
00:58:52.320 --> 00:58:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Under Whose authority was that review conducted? BONDI? I'm sorry,

1044
00:58:56.519 --> 00:58:59.519
<v Speaker 1>what date were you, Walkinshaw picks up in March of

1045
00:58:59.519 --> 00:59:02.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty the one hundred thousand documents? Was that under

1046
00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:06.679
<v Speaker 1>your authority? Bondy? Yes, and I delegated that to Todd

1047
00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:11.119
<v Speaker 1>Blanche Walkinshaw, Okay. And do you know what instructions were

1048
00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:14.639
<v Speaker 1>given to those reviewers? Bondi. I believe we have released

1049
00:59:14.639 --> 00:59:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the instructions that were given, but those may have been

1050
00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:20.920
<v Speaker 1>given later. Walkinshaw. Have you released all because I know

1051
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:25.039
<v Speaker 1>that there was a Foyer request? Bondy, Uh huh. Walkinshaw,

1052
00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:28.320
<v Speaker 1>to your knowledge, have all of the instructions to reviewers

1053
00:59:28.320 --> 00:59:33.239
<v Speaker 1>been released publicly? Bondy, I don't know, Walkinshaw, Okay. Were

1054
00:59:33.239 --> 00:59:37.199
<v Speaker 1>those reviewers instructed the flag mentions of Donald Trump. Bondy,

1055
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe so, Walkinshaw, Okay. Because it's been reported

1056
00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:44.480
<v Speaker 1>there's a whistle blower who came forward. There are documents

1057
00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:48.039
<v Speaker 1>that the media has cited saying those reviewers were instructed

1058
00:59:48.039 --> 00:59:50.760
<v Speaker 1>to flag mentions of Donald Trump. You don't have any

1059
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:53.719
<v Speaker 1>knowledge of that, Bondye. I have not seen. I have

1060
00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:56.280
<v Speaker 1>not heard of a whistleblower saying that I have no

1061
00:59:56.320 --> 00:59:59.880
<v Speaker 1>knowledge of that. Walkinshaw, Okay. Senator Durbin sentsual a li

1062
01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:04.000
<v Speaker 1>or last year, citing that whistleblower. To your knowledge, have

1063
01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you responded or did the department, Miss Dylan, You can

1064
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:10.679
<v Speaker 1>feel free to jump in. Did the department respond to

1065
01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:14.400
<v Speaker 1>that letter that Senator Durbin sent, Bondye, we can ask

1066
01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:19.039
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Davis, who runs that department, Walkinshaw, Okay. To your knowledge,

1067
01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:22.320
<v Speaker 1>were any records flagged flagged for whatever reason, since you

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01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:25.559
<v Speaker 1>don't recall whether they were flags of mentions of Donald Trump,

1069
01:00:25.719 --> 01:00:29.079
<v Speaker 1>any records that were flagged in the process ultimately withheld

1070
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:33.079
<v Speaker 1>or redacted from the Transparency Act release, Bondie, I don't

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01:00:33.079 --> 01:00:37.159
<v Speaker 1>believe reviewers were asked to flag anything. To my knowledge, Walkinshaw, Okay,

1072
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:40.679
<v Speaker 1>all right, Bondie, there were over five hundred attorneys at

1073
01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:44.760
<v Speaker 1>some point reviewing documents, Lokinshaw. Uh huh, okay, So there

1074
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:47.599
<v Speaker 1>was no flag of mentions of Donald Trump. No one

1075
01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:49.960
<v Speaker 1>came to you and said, we reviewed these one hundred

1076
01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:52.559
<v Speaker 1>thousand documents and there are x number of mentions of

1077
01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump. No one ever said that to you, Bondie.

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01:00:55.559 --> 01:00:59.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe anyone asked to flag anything. Walkinshaw. Okay,

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01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:01.840
<v Speaker 1>you stated early that it's common for the Bureau of

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01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Prisons to move prisoners, maybe based on their safety. Is

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01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:08.920
<v Speaker 1>it common in your experience for the Deputy Attorney General

1082
01:01:09.119 --> 01:01:14.599
<v Speaker 1>the personally interview prisoners. Is that common? Can you recall

1083
01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:18.920
<v Speaker 1>any other instance of the Deputy Attorney General personally interviewing prisoners?

1084
01:01:19.320 --> 01:01:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Bondi We were in office for a year, of course not.

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01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:24.840
<v Speaker 1>That was the only prisoner to my knowledge that he interviewed,

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01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:28.039
<v Speaker 1>and that was because she was living. Epstein's dead, and

1087
01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:30.719
<v Speaker 1>his intent was exactly what this committee is trying to

1088
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:33.639
<v Speaker 1>get at, to find out if she had evidence of

1089
01:01:33.880 --> 01:01:37.800
<v Speaker 1>other crimes. Yoh, she was in prison, she's already convicted.

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01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:40.800
<v Speaker 1>What does that even mean. That's the most bullshit of

1091
01:01:40.800 --> 01:01:44.360
<v Speaker 1>bullshit excuses I've ever heard. It was about the cover up.

1092
01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:48.519
<v Speaker 1>It was about the exoneration of Donald Trump. That's all

1093
01:01:48.559 --> 01:01:52.760
<v Speaker 1>it was, Walkinshaw. She was in his inner circle, right

1094
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:55.039
<v Speaker 1>very close to it, Bondie, And you can read the

1095
01:01:55.079 --> 01:01:58.039
<v Speaker 1>transcribed interview what he asked her, and it's very clear

1096
01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:00.880
<v Speaker 1>why he asked it, to see if there were other

1097
01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:04.280
<v Speaker 1>crimes that she knew about that had been committed. Walkinshaw.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things our investigation has revealed is that

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01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:11.000
<v Speaker 1>other individuals very close to Epstein were never interviewed by

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI across multiple administrations. Kahn, Indicte, the accountant, the

1101
01:02:15.639 --> 01:02:19.280
<v Speaker 1>lawyer Les Wexner, whose money financed a lot of Epstein's trafficking.

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01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, in your professional opinion as a former prosecutor,

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01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:25.679
<v Speaker 1>do you find it strange that the FBI never interviewed

1104
01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:28.719
<v Speaker 1>some of those figures very close to Epstein, And do

1105
01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:31.519
<v Speaker 1>you think they should, BONDI you're gonna have to ask

1106
01:02:31.519 --> 01:02:36.559
<v Speaker 1>Obama and Biden administrations the exact same thing. Nobody's asking them.

1107
01:02:36.719 --> 01:02:41.760
<v Speaker 1>They're asking you. God, she's disgusting, Walkinshaw. I said, it's

1108
01:02:41.800 --> 01:02:45.840
<v Speaker 1>multiple administrations. I'm asking you across all those administrations, is

1109
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:48.880
<v Speaker 1>it strange to you. Do you think those individuals should have,

1110
01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:52.760
<v Speaker 1>perhaps still should be interviewed by the FBI, Bondi, if

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01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:56.000
<v Speaker 1>there was evidence of wrongdoing, yes, and I would direct

1112
01:02:56.039 --> 01:02:58.360
<v Speaker 1>that to the FBI. And I would also direct that

1113
01:02:58.400 --> 01:03:03.079
<v Speaker 1>to the Biden administration, who had four years Walkinshaw. But

1114
01:03:03.159 --> 01:03:05.599
<v Speaker 1>it was a memo while you were Attorney General that

1115
01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:07.960
<v Speaker 1>said the case closed, nothing else to be seen here,

1116
01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:12.239
<v Speaker 1>We're not going to investigate anything. Bondi, you're mischaracterizing that.

1117
01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Can you read that to me? Where I said case closed, Walkinshaw,

1118
01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:19.760
<v Speaker 1>those key figures close to Abstein were not interviewed. Deputy

1119
01:03:19.800 --> 01:03:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Attorney General Blanche went and spent a lot of time

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01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:25.719
<v Speaker 1>with Clan Maxwell, but other figures close to Abstein never

1121
01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:28.679
<v Speaker 1>even got interviewed by the FBI. Why didn't you stay

1122
01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:30.920
<v Speaker 1>to the FBI? Y'all need to go and interview some

1123
01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:35.679
<v Speaker 1>of those folks. Bondi, you're mischaracterizing, Walkinshaw. I'm asking you

1124
01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:40.079
<v Speaker 1>a question, Bondy. No, you're mischaracterizing something that you've stated

1125
01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:44.199
<v Speaker 1>was in the document. Can you read it back to me, Walkinshaw,

1126
01:03:44.239 --> 01:03:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm asking you why didn't you, as a former prosecutor,

1127
01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:50.679
<v Speaker 1>a professional who understands these cases, look at it and say,

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01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:53.440
<v Speaker 1>these folks who are in the inner circle of Epstein's

1129
01:03:53.480 --> 01:03:57.239
<v Speaker 1>massive sex trafficking ring were never investigated. My boss, Donald

1130
01:03:57.280 --> 01:03:59.519
<v Speaker 1>Trump ran on the issue. I'm gonna make sure that

1131
01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:02.119
<v Speaker 1>there a question and interviewed so that we can get

1132
01:04:02.119 --> 01:04:04.000
<v Speaker 1>to the bottom of it. Why didn't you do that,

1133
01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:08.880
<v Speaker 1>miss Bondi? Bondi Deputy Attorney General Blanche interviewed Maxwell to

1134
01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:11.280
<v Speaker 1>see if she had evidence of any other crimes. To

1135
01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:17.079
<v Speaker 1>the best of my knowledge, that transcript is widely available. Walkinshaw,

1136
01:04:17.199 --> 01:04:19.440
<v Speaker 1>you asked me to gets cut off by Bondi. You

1137
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:23.199
<v Speaker 1>criticized him interviewing her, but his interview to try to

1138
01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:27.039
<v Speaker 1>answer your question, Walkinshaw, I'm asking why didn't y'all interview

1139
01:04:27.079 --> 01:04:30.159
<v Speaker 1>anyone else? You said we did not uncover evidence that

1140
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:34.880
<v Speaker 1>could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties. Some people

1141
01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:38.320
<v Speaker 1>who might have had evidence were Epstein's lawyer, his accountant,

1142
01:04:38.360 --> 01:04:41.559
<v Speaker 1>his financier Wexner. Why didn't you direct that they at

1143
01:04:41.639 --> 01:04:45.320
<v Speaker 1>least be interviewed and questioned Bondi? That statement is very

1144
01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:50.719
<v Speaker 1>different from the one you asked earlier. Walkinshaw, I'm asking

1145
01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:52.880
<v Speaker 1>you a question, why didn't you direct that they be

1146
01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:57.679
<v Speaker 1>interviewed to uncover perhaps evidence that could predicate an investigation

1147
01:04:57.760 --> 01:05:01.639
<v Speaker 1>against uncharged third parties. Why didn't you that, BONDI, I've

1148
01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:05.360
<v Speaker 1>answered that multiple times. Walkinshaw, you haven't answered it. You

1149
01:05:05.400 --> 01:05:09.360
<v Speaker 1>don't have an answer, BONDI. You also misrepresented something that

1150
01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I just had to read it back redacted. All right,

1151
01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:14.480
<v Speaker 1>We've got a few last questions and we're coming to

1152
01:05:14.519 --> 01:05:17.840
<v Speaker 1>an end. I'll be brief. One question is some members

1153
01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:21.480
<v Speaker 1>have experienced that in the reading room some documents that

1154
01:05:21.519 --> 01:05:24.400
<v Speaker 1>they go see on redacted still have some redactions on them.

1155
01:05:24.920 --> 01:05:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any understanding of how or why a

1156
01:05:27.039 --> 01:05:31.840
<v Speaker 1>document in the reading room would still have redactions? BONDI, Yeah,

1157
01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:34.519
<v Speaker 1>I believe that's because some of the documents were sealed

1158
01:05:34.639 --> 01:05:38.639
<v Speaker 1>redacted by SDNY. When we receive them, we receive them redacted,

1159
01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:41.000
<v Speaker 1>is my understanding of that. But I would have to

1160
01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:43.719
<v Speaker 1>look at the specific document and see where it came from.

1161
01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Question do you have any recollection of any other category

1162
01:05:47.480 --> 01:05:51.639
<v Speaker 1>of redaction other than the one you just described? Answer no. Question.

1163
01:05:51.880 --> 01:05:54.280
<v Speaker 1>As Attorney General of Florida, did you ever look into

1164
01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:58.480
<v Speaker 1>potential co conspirators of Epstein's crimes? Answer that would have

1165
01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:00.920
<v Speaker 1>been the state attorney in Palm Beach who had jurisdiction

1166
01:06:01.320 --> 01:06:04.800
<v Speaker 1>over the federal authorities. I was only had the office's

1167
01:06:04.800 --> 01:06:08.320
<v Speaker 1>statewide prosecutor. Question a few follow ups on the topic

1168
01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:11.519
<v Speaker 1>that we discussed earlier, of members going to DOJ to

1169
01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:15.719
<v Speaker 1>review files and records that may have existed of member searches.

1170
01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:18.719
<v Speaker 1>It came up high profile at one of your hearings.

1171
01:06:19.039 --> 01:06:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I just want to make sure I understood correctly. Was

1172
01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:24.719
<v Speaker 1>your description that it was not deliberate change in policy

1173
01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:27.719
<v Speaker 1>at DOJ, that was just a function of how the

1174
01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:31.119
<v Speaker 1>DOJ system is set up. Is that fair or correct?

1175
01:06:31.880 --> 01:06:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Bondy No. I believe this was unprecedented what we did

1176
01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:38.079
<v Speaker 1>putting three million pages online, and part of the system

1177
01:06:38.159 --> 01:06:42.119
<v Speaker 1>included monitoring sensitive information that was on there and people

1178
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:45.519
<v Speaker 1>reviewing it. It was built into the system and it's

1179
01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:48.400
<v Speaker 1>still in that system. Question, And that's what I was

1180
01:06:48.400 --> 01:06:52.840
<v Speaker 1>getting at, was a deliberate policy choice made to track

1181
01:06:52.840 --> 01:06:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and monitor member searches under the Epstein file. Answer? Not

1182
01:06:56.559 --> 01:06:59.079
<v Speaker 1>to my knowledge question. Okay, as far as you know,

1183
01:06:59.599 --> 01:07:01.800
<v Speaker 1>if a member went to the DOJ to review some

1184
01:07:02.079 --> 01:07:05.159
<v Speaker 1>other piece, some other document, some other piece of material,

1185
01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:07.920
<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with Epstein. Would that search typically be

1186
01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:11.320
<v Speaker 1>tracked in the same way? Answer? I don't believe a

1187
01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:14.119
<v Speaker 1>member can go look at anything online. The system was

1188
01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:17.159
<v Speaker 1>set up with over three million to six million pages

1189
01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:20.360
<v Speaker 1>of documents to protect victim's identity to the best we could,

1190
01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:24.480
<v Speaker 1>and of course they all weren't protected. Question and so

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01:07:24.599 --> 01:07:27.800
<v Speaker 1>your knowledge DOJ's usage of the member search history, it

1192
01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:31.719
<v Speaker 1>sounds like is restricted to protecting survivor's identities. Is that

1193
01:07:31.800 --> 01:07:34.960
<v Speaker 1>your recollection? In other words, how did the DOJ use

1194
01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:40.719
<v Speaker 1>that information? Answer? Can you rephrase the question? Question? Sure? So,

1195
01:07:40.880 --> 01:07:44.239
<v Speaker 1>DOJ has or least had member search history When members

1196
01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:47.480
<v Speaker 1>would come review different files and they choose which files

1197
01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:50.119
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to review, how did the department use that

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01:07:50.159 --> 01:07:55.880
<v Speaker 1>information to your recollection? Answer regarding Epstein question yes, specifically

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01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:59.639
<v Speaker 1>tracking member Epstein's searches. Answer, I don't know. I don't recall.

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01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:03.159
<v Speaker 1>Question as far as you know, if a member went

1201
01:08:03.199 --> 01:08:06.199
<v Speaker 1>to review an Epstein file on redacted today at DOJ,

1202
01:08:06.599 --> 01:08:10.079
<v Speaker 1>would their search records be tracked in the same way? Answer?

1203
01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I believe that's part of the program and they had

1204
01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:16.479
<v Speaker 1>to be tracked. I believe, I'm not certain. Question A

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01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:20.199
<v Speaker 1>couple of last miscellaneous ones with respect to mister Epstein's death,

1206
01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:24.239
<v Speaker 1>is your personal review that he committed suicide? Answer? I

1207
01:08:24.239 --> 01:08:27.960
<v Speaker 1>would rely on the FBI's investigation. Question are you aware

1208
01:08:27.960 --> 01:08:31.279
<v Speaker 1>of any information indicating that mister Epstein worked for a

1209
01:08:31.279 --> 01:08:35.640
<v Speaker 1>domestic or a foreign intelligence service? Answer not personally. I

1210
01:08:35.640 --> 01:08:40.439
<v Speaker 1>would rely on the FBI's investigation. Redacted. That concludes my questions.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just state for the record that the minority did

1212
01:08:43.319 --> 01:08:46.000
<v Speaker 1>have additional questions that would have fallen within one of

1213
01:08:46.039 --> 01:08:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the parameters that you or your council described, specifically with

1214
01:08:50.079 --> 01:08:53.600
<v Speaker 1>respect to conversations with the President. We withheld some of

1215
01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:56.239
<v Speaker 1>those questions for your sake, but we want to note

1216
01:08:56.239 --> 01:08:58.760
<v Speaker 1>for the record that those are important questions to us

1217
01:08:59.039 --> 01:09:01.880
<v Speaker 1>and we think they deserve to be answered in the investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>With that, I will thank you for your time today

1219
01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:07.199
<v Speaker 1>and we can go off the record. Ms Bondi, thank you,

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01:09:07.960 --> 01:09:09.520
<v Speaker 1>all right, folks. That's going to do it for the

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<v Speaker 1>Bondi interview with the House Oversight Committee, And next up

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be diving in to the Sarah Kellen transcript.

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<v Speaker 1>All the information that goes with this episode can be

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<v Speaker 1>found in the description box.
