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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball here
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Speaker 3: Tim Bentley, yoyo.
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 3: My friend?
Speaker 2: Been a wow? Did you have you eaten a sandwich
Speaker 2: any time the last two weeks?
Speaker 3: I have not. I had to come back to this
Speaker 3: radio station because they have good snacks.
Speaker 4: Good chips, and just have good chat chips.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I got to get up to the
Speaker 3: radio station and have some of these good snacks.
Speaker 2: You're losing wives.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: I've been actually running more, That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 3: I've been running a little bit more than I have
Speaker 3: in the past, so that that's good, except that it's
Speaker 3: one hundred and sixteen degrees.
Speaker 2: We were you running, Phoenix.
Speaker 3: I was in Sabino, Canna. I got interviewed on a
Speaker 3: keg on yesterday. There was some reporter out there, Andrew Christiansen,
Speaker 3: looking for running out and he goes, can I talk
Speaker 3: to you? And I'm like, he goes, are you okay?
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I was on Channel.
Speaker 2: Nine last night. Do you need a sandwich?
Speaker 3: You need a sandwich? Would you like some water?
Speaker 2: I run into the Fox studios for some potato chips.
Speaker 3: So I'll be all right. I'll be up up on
Speaker 3: the hill, up on snacks. I'll be fine. Anyway, Thanks
Speaker 3: for having me again. I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Good to have you back. Yeah, and we got Ray
Speaker 2: behind the mic on the other side. Oh yeah, we
Speaker 2: have a good show today. I last kind of. I
Speaker 2: always give Ray your heads up this is what's coming.
Speaker 2: But I'm still waiting. Uh So, we're gonna talk to
Speaker 2: Bruce Pasco, one of my regular guys. We're gonna talk
Speaker 2: about the draft obviously, just kind of how it all
Speaker 2: played out with Caleb and with Carter and him chasing down.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be on on on the old Tommy Lloyd
Speaker 2: uh beat with the sweet Switzerland team. So we'll talk
Speaker 2: to him about that. That's they start tomorrow at four seventeen.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have the ftally two son coach Sebastian what
Speaker 2: was his last name there, senior, he's been there. This
Speaker 2: is first year Sebastiananeda Peta, Yes, as you would say
Speaker 2: in your comebland So okay and by home, dude. So
Speaker 2: he's at four seventeen. And then a big surprise, everybody
Speaker 2: who's listening right now, Sean Elliott is going to call
Speaker 2: us at four forty two.
Speaker 3: Get out of here.
Speaker 2: I've been trying to track him down and today he
Speaker 2: said yes, but it was too late for our socials.
Speaker 2: But I kind of just posted, now, did you put
Speaker 2: us on Twitter? You're going to And I just pushed
Speaker 2: it on our Facebook page that he'll be on at
Speaker 2: four forty two. I wanted to touch touch up or
Speaker 2: catch up with him about Carter and the excitement and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. San Antonio is probably in love with Carter.
Speaker 3: Forty years ago, Sean Ellet was a senior in high school.
Speaker 3: How do you know this because he and I are
Speaker 3: the same age. Okay, so he went to Choia High School.
Speaker 3: He's a big deal here, No really, he was such
Speaker 3: a big deal and he was in it was iconic
Speaker 3: and member he hurt his knee right around that time,
Speaker 3: and he soccer playing soccer, and he uh, you know,
Speaker 3: Loot took him anyway and and all the rest is history.
Speaker 3: But I just remember that I mean, it was so
Speaker 3: crushing because back then, forty years ago, you know, an
Speaker 3: injury like that would would just take you right out
Speaker 3: of your career, right, and.
Speaker 2: So you were aware of that all across across the
Speaker 2: city totally.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was it was a it was a thing.
Speaker 3: It was devastating, uh to see in the paper. I mean,
Speaker 3: he was like Tucson's favorite son. Yeah, and he still
Speaker 3: is right and then he can do no wrong here,
Speaker 3: which is which is awesome.
Speaker 2: So right, it's him, Steve Kerr that you.
Speaker 3: Know that that era was just I mean, it just
Speaker 3: set the stage that whole thing.
Speaker 2: Kids. I do not have you kids, So I wanted
Speaker 2: to put an analogy out there. It's like you like
Speaker 2: your first son or daughter getting out of the house
Speaker 2: and and they're you know, you're so proud of him
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. You know, your first your first baby,
Speaker 2: you know, going out and doing real That eighty eight team,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, I'm.
Speaker 3: Talking about that eighty eight I ran across a VHS
Speaker 3: tape a couple of years ago of that team exactly right.
Speaker 3: I'm like, how do I play this? I was able
Speaker 3: to see it and you can look up it on YouTube.
Speaker 3: That team just played, you know, just they were so
Speaker 3: fast and they were just they were just ahead of
Speaker 3: their time.
Speaker 2: Being from here, Tim, I've always said this, and I
Speaker 2: say this a lot. The two thousand and one team,
Speaker 2: to me, was the most talented. The eighty eight team
Speaker 2: was second to that. To me. It could be wrong,
Speaker 2: but the most the favorite sons. You know, they got
Speaker 2: them to the Final four for the first time.
Speaker 3: Final four. I mean they set the expectations that the
Speaker 3: community to expected. You've said this, you know, like everything
Speaker 3: like every three or four years, like every you were
Speaker 3: pretty much guaranteed if you came to evade a trip
Speaker 3: to the Final four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it happened for a while.
Speaker 3: For a while, it was every three or four years.
Speaker 2: Stopped in two thousand and one and regained its speed.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, we can look it up on VHS.
Speaker 3: We have a VHS stave. It's good, is it?
Speaker 2: Part of you? I have one. I have a VHS
Speaker 2: recorder with the thing's still blinking twelve.
Speaker 3: Right for me? You know what I did as I
Speaker 3: took out my media stuff. I don't have a CD player,
Speaker 3: change it, I change it, put it all in the cloud.
Speaker 2: Oh did you Yeah?
Speaker 5: You can do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you had someone do that.
Speaker 3: You digitize it, Yeah, yeah, sure, somebody will sell you
Speaker 3: a big fat package, but you can take it locally.
Speaker 3: There's a couple of places and it's all in the cloud.
Speaker 3: My my dad and my my my uncles loved it
Speaker 3: because they did all the movies and it lives forever
Speaker 3: in the cloud right now. It was cool.
Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, we'll talk about that the good old
Speaker 2: days with you being the same class, same, same forty
Speaker 2: times ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, first.
Speaker 2: Uh, welcome back to Friday, the final day of the week. Uh,
Speaker 2: here with you guys, five two, four, one, six seventy
Speaker 2: if you want to call us, we have a few
Speaker 2: minutes before we get to Bruce. About ten minutes before
Speaker 2: we get to Bruce. You were bringing up something with
Speaker 2: the Utah kid. Yeah, it's Bailey. It's Bailey in the
Speaker 2: news everywhere. I'll be sure that I listened to this morning.
Speaker 2: But you bought up. Go ahead and tell a situation. Well,
Speaker 2: and then we'll tell Tim's situation.
Speaker 6: Okay, So, I mean, obviously he got drafted by the
Speaker 6: Utah Jazz, didn't work out with anybody, like anybody even
Speaker 6: like bailed on his workout with the Sixers who had
Speaker 6: to pick at three, which a lot of people had
Speaker 6: him going to the six or seventy six ers at three.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he's just.
Speaker 6: At first it seemed like he was refusing to go
Speaker 6: with the Jazz and I don't know, maybe he still
Speaker 6: has like certain feelings about it, but yeah, he just
Speaker 6: didn't go. Didn't well, he didn't show up the after
Speaker 6: the first day. He reports are saying that he's gonna
Speaker 6: be there on Saturday. I guess we'll see.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, because he's got to be there on Monday,
Speaker 2: first practice days. But then Tim throws something on me
Speaker 2: that I had I heard.
Speaker 3: I was listening to the station earlier, and apparently his
Speaker 3: agent who's getting advice Froom isn't.
Speaker 2: Did they say who that was?
Speaker 3: Whose agent is?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I didn't hear his name.
Speaker 2: No, but Eversonness has gone through that with an agent
Speaker 2: or two that hasn't been reputable or or legit.
Speaker 3: You know, and it's you know, we've talked about this
Speaker 3: before on the show. You know, these kids are eighteen,
Speaker 3: nineteen years old and they just get thrust into all
Speaker 3: this money, and you know, they just don't a lot
Speaker 3: of times if you don't have good advice and good
Speaker 3: you know, adults around. He doesn't have to be a
Speaker 3: dad or you know, anybody, but a good adult around
Speaker 3: you to give you some solid advice. Man, you can
Speaker 3: you can absolutely stumble like hasted Omark Cooper's the agent's name.
Speaker 2: Okay, well yeah, we'll see if that's legit. That could
Speaker 2: be a factor. But he is getting bad advice because
Speaker 2: he's not gonna be able to go anywhere else but
Speaker 2: play in Utah. And you can't start your career like
Speaker 2: he's already started.
Speaker 3: Right, And you know, I mean it's those basketball there's
Speaker 3: NBA contracts. You know, I just get in the league.
Speaker 3: But you know, I mean they're guaranteed contracts, and you know,
Speaker 3: you're that's that's they talk about generational wealth, and that's
Speaker 3: generational wealth. Just get in the league, just you know,
Speaker 3: get in and play. You know, it's not about numbers.
Speaker 3: It's just getting in.
Speaker 6: Do you think like because they I don't know, maybe
Speaker 6: like the front office or like the big wigs and
Speaker 6: the jazz like kind of saw this being like a
Speaker 6: potential like issue that came up.
Speaker 3: Do you think that's why they went after the guy
Speaker 3: from Florida?
Speaker 2: He fits the guy, the Clayton kid. Yeah, yeah, No,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. I think it's a good fit.
Speaker 2: He's a good player, right, Yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know. We'll see. I guess he was the the
Speaker 2: what's his name Asian was the best player available at
Speaker 2: that time. They're not gonna skip anybody but that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not gonna, right, Danny Ainge, that's his m man.
Speaker 3: He takes the best right, takes the best talent, right,
Speaker 3: So we'll see, he'll be there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he wants to get paid, the family wants
Speaker 2: to get paid or whatever, he'll to me. Here, here's
Speaker 2: my issue, Tim, and I say this all the time. Okay,
Speaker 2: so you're you're eighteen seventeen, what's your dream to do this? Right,
Speaker 2: to be in the NBA. Okay, So now you you
Speaker 2: get there and the first thing you want to make
Speaker 2: everybody happy you're going to try to do with it.
Speaker 2: Then you maybe land a year or two, and now
Speaker 2: you're the poop. Now you're the poop, and now you
Speaker 2: start acting like your poop doesn't stink. And now that
Speaker 2: they owe you something, I mean, especially if you're like
Speaker 2: on your second or third contract and you're trying to
Speaker 2: prove yourself and they're trying to prove that you're better
Speaker 2: than you really are. And I'm going to hold out,
Speaker 2: just two years ago you were kissing a lot of
Speaker 2: button trying to get there in the first place. Why
Speaker 2: would you do that? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And you know, we've seen NFL players do. They don't
Speaker 3: want to go to a place where they're not going
Speaker 3: to thrive. But I don't you know what by all accounts,
Speaker 3: you know, Utah is in a place where people go to,
Speaker 3: you know, being being obscurity.
Speaker 2: It's the fan base loves you. Ye you you're You're
Speaker 2: pretty good at times. They're not good right now, but
Speaker 2: they eventually that's why they're going to try to get
Speaker 2: good because they have good, good talent coming. I don't know.
Speaker 2: To me, it's just very odd. You're eighteen and if
Speaker 2: he is getting bad advice, shame on the dude, Shame
Speaker 2: on the advice.
Speaker 3: Shame on that whoever the adult is that's given this
Speaker 3: kid advice. You know it's bad and.
Speaker 2: He puts the kid in the spot. Well, how do
Speaker 2: you answer those questions.
Speaker 3: We were talking about, Like think about when you're eighteen
Speaker 3: you know how mature and sophisticated were you. We really weren't.
Speaker 4: We're all knuckleheads, you know. Maybe, well I'll go back
Speaker 4: to you. You you stayed in school. We were talking
Speaker 4: about this before. You stay in school, however long you
Speaker 4: stay in school. My boy right here is out of
Speaker 4: the military here or older. But let's see your first
Speaker 4: job opportunity comes and he says, well, we're gonna give
Speaker 4: you twenty five thousand.
Speaker 2: Knowing the business, and he says, well, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hold out for a better deal. Let me
Speaker 2: take something. You may not get a better deal, especially
Speaker 2: in this business. And actually, you we talked about it
Speaker 2: this little yesterday. Yeah, you're smart enough to know that
Speaker 2: you can. You have to start with the bops, yeah,
Speaker 2: and the other stuff because you've been there. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean well, I mean yeah, it's kind
Speaker 6: of just like a thing where it's like, you know,
Speaker 6: you're always gonna start at the bottom of the totem pole,
Speaker 6: and obviously you hope that, you know, you can prove
Speaker 6: yourself and it's like, you know, I'm a I'm a
Speaker 6: good guy, good worker, and you start eventually moving up
Speaker 6: like the you know, proverbial corporate ladder or whatever kind
Speaker 6: of business you want to get into. But yeah, I
Speaker 6: mean it's just like you got to you gotta be
Speaker 6: able to just like take the crap for a little bit.
Speaker 3: That's not a bad totem pole starting in the NBA
Speaker 3: at the bottom. No, No, it.
Speaker 2: Gets in fact, I saw heard the show coming in
Speaker 2: earlier this morning, uh talking about Okay, so you're not
Speaker 2: wanting to go there, go there, be the good soldier,
Speaker 2: do your thing, and eventually that could get you to
Speaker 2: where you really wanted to be. Yeah, for sure, you
Speaker 2: know you can hold out for that second third contract.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and even then, I mean, like the NBA is
Speaker 6: such a player driven league where it's like who knows
Speaker 6: if he has like a breakout year this year, the
Speaker 6: second year, and it's like, if you really don't want
Speaker 6: to be there, you can probably force your way out.
Speaker 6: Like with the trade, you can't do it now because
Speaker 6: it's like teams don't know what what they're going to get.
Speaker 2: But it's like if you, yeah, but you know what
Speaker 2: would you want a guy you're the owner of a team,
Speaker 2: you're the coach of a team, and you already start
Speaker 2: off like would you want a guy that's a pain
Speaker 2: in it.
Speaker 3: I wonder you probably they probably want as Bailey's probably
Speaker 3: no good kid. They're just like, man, just you know,
Speaker 3: they're they're thinking they're going to have to deal with
Speaker 3: this agent or you know, his his representation. And you
Speaker 3: know that puts a that puts these basketball players that
Speaker 3: do this, these these rookie professional athletes at a disadvantage.
Speaker 3: You know, coaches are already angry, and players are like, hey,
Speaker 3: but I just get in here. We want to be great. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we make a run.
Speaker 2: Imagine the locker room if you have other dudes who
Speaker 2: are pain on the asses and want to treat you poorty.
Speaker 2: Uh and you see this punk who does he think
Speaker 2: he is?
Speaker 3: You know, you're talking to some you know, twenty twenty
Speaker 3: nine year old vet who's like, hey, get in here, man,
Speaker 3: I want to I got to make a run. I
Speaker 3: want to. I want the best talent around.
Speaker 2: Hey, I didn't have your talent. Look at you know,
Speaker 2: I didn't have your talent. I'm a little offended by
Speaker 2: how you're acting.
Speaker 3: Right, So he's at a he's at a disadvantage. And
Speaker 3: I hope that you know, he gets in there and
Speaker 3: and you know Danny Ainge and his I think his
Speaker 3: son is asistant GM or something. You know, hopefully they
Speaker 3: straightened this kid out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then think about it, it's probably we're talking
Speaker 2: about the kid and it's really not about the kid.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know. I feel like you've kind of
Speaker 6: seen it a lot too. I mean, obviously we saw
Speaker 6: which the door had like that incredible slide, and then
Speaker 6: obviously I mean I think this case is a little different.
Speaker 2: But the the.
Speaker 6: Rookie for in Cincinnati, he still hasn't signed his contract either.
Speaker 2: And football, yeah, yeah, I don't know who that is.
Speaker 6: It's it was Mars Stewart from Texas A and m
Speaker 6: he was a first rounder and then but it was
Speaker 6: like that's more of a like contract thing, I think,
Speaker 6: because it's like they don't want to cover, like they
Speaker 6: don't want to guarantee the money if he gets hurt
Speaker 6: or something like that.
Speaker 3: Well that NFL contracts are a whole another thing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but your contract in the NBA is guaranteed. Get in
Speaker 3: the league, start playing to your point, ray and just
Speaker 3: you know, you know, hustle and ball out, and then
Speaker 3: you know, if in two or three years you write
Speaker 3: your ticket, but just get in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll probably break your stuff. Caleb goes to Portland, Right,
Speaker 2: we'll talk to Boose about that. You talked about it
Speaker 2: being a good fit. I don't know at least Deandre's there,
Speaker 2: Deandres there. But when you're at this, everybody knows everybody
Speaker 2: because you've played against them at some level. Right. Uh,
Speaker 2: and now it's just about being good at what you
Speaker 2: do because that's what you need to do to land
Speaker 2: a spot.
Speaker 3: Well I didn't. I didn't realize that DeAndre was there.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this that's how let me take you like you
Speaker 2: like many don't follow the NBA. Right, we talked about
Speaker 2: this a couple of day. I know we gotta go,
Speaker 2: but you you don't follow him and he it's like
Speaker 2: going to Siberia after after playing in Phoenix, is the
Speaker 2: number one guy? Well he didn't do what you needed
Speaker 2: to do for us, and you were kind of surly
Speaker 2: we're gonna ship you off to Siberia better known as
Speaker 2: Poland or Porland. Could have been anywhere, but you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, so we'll all get I hope you know,
Speaker 3: maybe they have a wild cap on and and DeAndre
Speaker 3: helps him a little bit. But just you know again,
Speaker 3: just get in and play. I think Caleb is hungry
Speaker 3: to play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's take a break and get ahold of
Speaker 2: Bruce now.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, in with me
Speaker 2: today is Tim Bentley yet Ray and now we have
Speaker 2: Bruce Pasco from The Daily Star. Bruce, I got a
Speaker 2: sense that you're pretty busy. Thanks for joining.
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, sorry, see can you hear me?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're good, We're good, thank you?
Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, no, yeah.
Speaker 15: I mean between the World Cup stuff that I'm trying
Speaker 15: to advance and then the draft and the draft being
Speaker 15: two days now, you know, it's yeah, it's made for busy,
Speaker 15: busy couple of weeks or.
Speaker 16: Really, but you know, it's been kind of fun.
Speaker 14: I mean it was it was just like the season
Speaker 14: and the postseason was really busy through May and then
Speaker 14: there was like two kinds of light weeks and now
Speaker 14: it's now.
Speaker 16: It's been a little nuts, but it's fun.
Speaker 2: I promise I won't bother you in July, because I
Speaker 2: know in my July is when I was doing you stuff,
Speaker 2: it was kind of slow. Yeah, but let's let's kind
Speaker 2: of get to the Switzerland and stuff at the back
Speaker 2: end of this. How was the last two days? Did
Speaker 2: you eventually I didn't see your story on Caleb. I
Speaker 2: think he was in town. Did you get reach out
Speaker 2: to him?
Speaker 17: Uh?
Speaker 16: No, I don't have any way. To do that. I'm
Speaker 16: actually looking at his uh the.
Speaker 15: Arizona posted something social media from him, and that's all
Speaker 15: I We'll see, honestly.
Speaker 14: And the Portland I've said a couple of times with people,
Speaker 14: the Trailblazer is nothing, but it's not official yet, so
Speaker 14: they're not gonna say anything or whatever. So it's one
Speaker 14: of those deals is just you know whatever, but it,
Speaker 14: you know, it appears to be for for real, and
Speaker 14: he seems to be pretty excited about it. It seems like
Speaker 14: it's a you know, if they're gonna go undrafted, you know,
Speaker 14: the good thing is you get to pick where you're going,
Speaker 14: as you know, and this seems to be as good
Speaker 14: as it as anything. You know, they Blazers only picked
Speaker 14: one guy, and that was a seven footer from China,
Speaker 14: and you know, they liked him. They worked him out.
Speaker 14: You know, they're a sistant GM as the U of
Speaker 14: a guy, so they're they're head coach is a guy
Speaker 14: who's kind of Chauncey Bills is kind of a you know,
Speaker 14: as I wrote, kind of like a Hall of Fame
Speaker 14: version of what Caleb Love is right now. So you know,
Speaker 14: I think there's a lot of things to line up
Speaker 14: for here.
Speaker 3: Hey, Bruce's Tim Bentley. I'm curious, you know you've you've
Speaker 3: talked to Caleb off and on, I'm sure interviewing him
Speaker 3: all that stuff. You know, earlier on we were talking
Speaker 3: about A Bailey and some of these you know, kind
Speaker 3: of these young kids making you know, oddball decisions or
Speaker 3: getting bad advice. What's your sense on Caleb as he
Speaker 3: enters the NBA? Is he is he mature? What's what's
Speaker 3: your vibe on him?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think he is, And I think he's I
Speaker 14: think he's just he's battletis. He's been through a lot.
Speaker 14: I mean, you know, he was actually out of high school.
Speaker 14: Was kind of like is heel one and done? And
Speaker 14: well he was a vibe and done, you know as
Speaker 14: it turned out, and there was a lot of up
Speaker 14: and down. You know, he he had that sophomore year
Speaker 14: he was kind of a you know, a hero in
Speaker 14: the Final four, and then he had that you know,
Speaker 14: really rough year the following year and kind of was
Speaker 14: a scapegoper was going on the North Carolina and I
Speaker 14: think the u of a you know, it was it
Speaker 14: was a little up and down. Even though all things considered,
Speaker 14: he was was a big benefit for that team. But
Speaker 14: you know, some people would probably like him to be
Speaker 14: a little more efficient. But you know, he did a
Speaker 14: lot and he you know, he dealt with a lot
Speaker 14: of you know, a lot of pressure, just really unbelievable pressure,
Speaker 14: just i'm sure, trying to get to the to the NBA,
Speaker 14: but also just dealing with the expectations he's had and
Speaker 14: what he went through at North Carolina. So I think
Speaker 14: going into the NBA, he's gonna you know, I don't
Speaker 14: think he's going to be bothered by the pressure or anything.
Speaker 16: Like that of it.
Speaker 14: It's just a matter of can he be a little
Speaker 14: more efficient, can he be a little better you know,
Speaker 14: on the court defensively and and playmaking, And I think
Speaker 14: he showed some signs of that this year. But but
Speaker 14: but yeah, to answer your question, I think mentally, I
Speaker 14: think he's in a pretty good place.
Speaker 2: We'll see, and you and I have covered this long enough.
Speaker 2: Sometimes college star college guys are better, uh better NBA
Speaker 2: guys because of what they allow you to do, and
Speaker 2: some aren't, you know, just some don't feel that uh
Speaker 2: that same you know, they can't transition. Uh. I think
Speaker 2: the game probably fits him better too.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I don't know, Yeah, I mean it can. It's
Speaker 14: just it's really really hard as you know, kind of
Speaker 14: as a you know, scoring six foot for kind of
Speaker 14: scoring guard in the NBA, they're just you know, there's
Speaker 14: just a lot of guys.
Speaker 2: Who will do that, but there's two and you know, and.
Speaker 14: To stick in the NBA, you've got to be really, really,
Speaker 14: really skilled. And you know, I think his his skills,
Speaker 14: he's just a bucket getter, and can he translates that
Speaker 14: and maneuver and against quicker and bigger guys and more
Speaker 14: experienced guys in that league.
Speaker 16: And he might be able to.
Speaker 14: It's just that because he's at that position where I
Speaker 14: think that you know, there's there's a lot of options
Speaker 14: that you know, he wasn't a high pick, but you know,
Speaker 14: he's certainly got you know, NBA level talent. It's just
Speaker 14: a matter of you know, he probably needs to find
Speaker 14: a you know, and a niche that he's can work
Speaker 14: his way into and thought of it.
Speaker 2: It is different, I'm sure in your stories in the
Speaker 2: last two weeks you were there. I was there for
Speaker 2: the press conventure. You're always there. I asked, tell me
Speaker 2: about about him. You know, he's nowhere in the in
Speaker 2: the list of anybody. He kind of shot back at me,
Speaker 2: He's as well, who you've been talking to, what did
Speaker 2: you make of that? I'm sure you quoted Tommy on
Speaker 2: any of your stories, but we were the people who
Speaker 2: were making those predictions were correct. He was not picked,
Speaker 2: and now he's got to find a way.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I know. I thought it was a great question, Stephen.
Speaker 14: I quoted him on all that because he basically said
Speaker 14: he's one hundred percent going to be on an NBA
Speaker 14: roster next season, and then it went through it and
Speaker 14: he went back, and then by the end of it,
Speaker 14: he was like, well, he's going to be on it,
Speaker 14: but he's got something right still going to make it
Speaker 14: from there, which is kind of what we thought. And
Speaker 14: I think that's what everybody thinks. He's not guaranteed, but
Speaker 14: he definitely will get a chance. I think, you know,
Speaker 14: there's no question to give a guy with his you know,
Speaker 14: scored twenty seven points in.
Speaker 16: College, you got at least give him a look.
Speaker 14: And but I think I think Lloyd's point, it seemed
Speaker 14: like the beginning of that he really was focused on,
Speaker 14: you know, the Duke game and how how he scored
Speaker 14: whatever was thirty two or whatever on them and in
Speaker 14: that last of sixteen game, and how you know, not
Speaker 14: does anybody can do that?
Speaker 16: And you know, and so I think he was.
Speaker 14: You know a little bit thinking and maybe, you know,
Speaker 14: maybe just before you ask that question, maybe he was
Speaker 14: talking to somebody in the NBA who basically said, yeah,
Speaker 14: that's that's really something we've got to look at him.
Speaker 14: So you know, but it also could be just that
Speaker 14: he's you.
Speaker 16: Know, for his guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of That's kind of what I.
Speaker 14: Thought too, you know, And that's that's been consistent. I mean, Lesban,
Speaker 14: you know, for two years, he's been nothing but a
Speaker 14: big advocate of him. And you know, every time that
Speaker 14: one of us or fans or whatever would say anything
Speaker 14: remotely like you know, what's going on with Caleb, but
Speaker 14: was always like, Caleb's a great player, I'm not worry
Speaker 14: about him. He's going to do it, blah blah blah.
Speaker 14: You know, And that's that's that's the way. You know,
Speaker 14: he's stuck with him, and I you know, I think
Speaker 14: statistically he improved on you know, from where he came in.
Speaker 14: You know, so well, maybe in that sense it works
Speaker 14: a little bit.
Speaker 3: You has a pretty good record of guys taking in
Speaker 3: the second or no rounds making a pretty big mark,
Speaker 3: you know, Jed Buschler, Steve Kerr, t J. McConnell, all
Speaker 3: these jets, you know, all these guys kind of you know,
Speaker 3: come in and hustle. And I do think that his
Speaker 3: age is going to help him briefs. You talk about
Speaker 3: that pressure that he that he's under, especially now you
Speaker 3: know at a at a school like you of a
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, his maturity is going to really help him.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 14: I mean it's funny because they you know, often the
Speaker 14: drafted all about your upside would certainly Carter Bryant have
Speaker 14: a ton of that and that's why he went so high.
Speaker 16: But on the other hand, when you get a guy
Speaker 16: like love you.
Speaker 14: Know who he you know, he's almost like you get
Speaker 14: downgraded for having to perceive kind of lower ceiling because
Speaker 14: you're already of twenty three, twenty four years old whatever.
Speaker 14: But on the other hand, you are ready to go,
Speaker 14: and you're certainly mature enough and you can handle all
Speaker 14: that other stuff. And I think the one you know
Speaker 14: a number of guys that been like that, I think
Speaker 14: certainly McConnell was McConnell wasn't even drafted, by the way,
Speaker 14: he was also a classic case of the guy who
Speaker 14: didn't get drafted, and his agent did a really good
Speaker 14: job of shopping him around and saying, Okay, this looks
Speaker 14: like a good fit. You know, will you guys take
Speaker 14: him or I don't know however it worked.
Speaker 16: But he went to the fixers.
Speaker 14: The fixers and they knew that he had a good
Speaker 14: chance to make that team and that they would value
Speaker 14: what he does. And he went there. He made that
Speaker 14: team ben like cale b Love needs to do. Then
Speaker 14: he proved himself as a guy who can play and
Speaker 14: he got some value, and then he went to the
Speaker 14: paid pacers and next thing you know, he's in the
Speaker 14: NBA Finals. So you know, he's a little different player. Obviously,
Speaker 14: he's a really good true point guard with passing skills
Speaker 14: that are really really hard to beat, and and Love
Speaker 14: has not been that kind of player. Love's got a
Speaker 14: little bit different skill set, but he could possibly follow
Speaker 14: a similar path if he does that. And I think
Speaker 14: there's a couple other examples too, like good guy like
Speaker 14: Solomon Hill, who was you know, like a friend's draft
Speaker 14: picked every year, was like is Solman gonna leave, and
Speaker 14: he was never that guy. And then he stayed all
Speaker 14: four years and he got in the first round, and
Speaker 14: he had made a decent career out of it because
Speaker 14: he was ready to go with the second he got
Speaker 14: and with Indiana he was ready to go.
Speaker 2: So yesterday, after the complete draft, I said there was
Speaker 2: eighteen freshmen taking. The average age maybe eighteen point five whatever.
Speaker 2: Yesterday no freshmen were taken, and the average age was
Speaker 2: like twenty one point nine whatever it was. And one
Speaker 2: of those, at least in the first day was was
Speaker 2: Carter Bryant. I think it's a it's a great fit.
Speaker 14: What do you think, Yeah, I think you know, I
Speaker 14: think yeah, he's he's always had that big upside. It's
Speaker 14: just it's just such a such a drastic example of
Speaker 14: a guy with a huge upside, but you haven't seen
Speaker 14: it yet, so you just you know, it's and he
Speaker 14: didn't really have the opportunity early in Arizona. He was struggling.
Speaker 14: The whole team was struggling. It was a weird deal there.
Speaker 14: And then you know, when the team started taking off,
Speaker 14: he was sixth, seventh man and that worked, and Tommy
Speaker 14: Lloyd wasn't going to change that formula, So it's weird.
Speaker 14: I mean, I remember, you know, there's another example of
Speaker 14: guys who averaged ten twelve points and they get.
Speaker 16: In the first round.
Speaker 14: This is the guy only rather stick. You know, it
Speaker 14: was playing average in less than twenty minutes a game.
Speaker 14: But but you could see flashes of it, specially towards
Speaker 14: the end of the year. I mean, the way he
Speaker 14: was hitting threes, and you know, he could descend he
Speaker 14: was versatile. And I think also I think san Antonio
Speaker 14: liked him because he's a really high character guy, right,
Speaker 14: you know, and he's all that, and that organization's kind
Speaker 14: of valued that as well, and so I think, I mean,
Speaker 14: you know, I'm sure Bryan's probably a little bun that
Speaker 14: he didn't go as high as nine or ten where
Speaker 14: he was kind of seen as maybe going. But but
Speaker 14: if you look at the organization, it's probably probably worth
Speaker 14: it in essence that he dropped out.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have Sean Elliott on around four forty, and
Speaker 3: we're going to talk to him about that. You've watched
Speaker 3: you watched Carter playoff season, and you talk about him
Speaker 3: being a you know, a high character guy, but what
Speaker 3: about his game? I mean, you know, evaluate him like
Speaker 3: a like a scout, if you will, like, what what's
Speaker 3: what's missing in his game? Do you think that maybe
Speaker 3: won't translate or he'll be lacking when he gets to
Speaker 3: the pros.
Speaker 14: About Brian, I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, well I think, you know,
Speaker 14: just I think mostly just experience really and you know,
Speaker 14: can you know, can he defend these guys and can
Speaker 14: can he shoot consistently? It's going to be a huge
Speaker 14: lead just because he's he's so.
Speaker 16: Young still and.
Speaker 14: Uh, you know, hasn't been through it and was just
Speaker 14: starting to come into his own as a college player
Speaker 14: the last literally the last month or six weeks or so,
Speaker 14: when when he really started to take off, I thought
Speaker 14: with Arizona, so to me, I mean, but as far
Speaker 14: as skills, gosh, I mean, I think he's got I
Speaker 14: think he's literally got everything you would need in in
Speaker 14: a in a three and deep type of player. And
Speaker 14: I think that's why he went so high, you know,
Speaker 14: even you know, I think coming in the year, I
Speaker 14: wasn't sure how he would be defensively, but he's showing
Speaker 14: some signs of that and you know that's something you
Speaker 14: can definitely improve and and uh, you know, he's shooting
Speaker 14: as well.
Speaker 16: You know, that's come along and then.
Speaker 14: You know it's like they would say, he's got a
Speaker 14: lot of things you just can't teach. He's got a
Speaker 14: six to eleven wingstand. You know, he's quick for his size.
Speaker 14: He's just uh, you know, you just's vertical leaks. Yeah,
Speaker 14: he was with two year freeing the whole combine or.
Speaker 2: Something like that.
Speaker 14: I mean, you just he's just got the physical gifts
Speaker 14: that it should translates just gonna be a medicine getting
Speaker 14: experienced and getting and staying confident.
Speaker 2: So let's go to the last couple of minutes of
Speaker 2: the of the studio show here with Tommy's team in Switzerland.
Speaker 2: What do you think and how you pulling this off?
Speaker 2: You're just watching the games on the internet or something.
Speaker 14: Yeah, well, you know FIBA, I mean I wish I
Speaker 14: was with them, but you know, but know, FIBA has
Speaker 14: their own YouTube channel. They just screen the games on there.
Speaker 16: They're they're free, and you know.
Speaker 14: You get up first thing in the morning and it's
Speaker 14: already in the evening in Switzerland and watch it with
Speaker 14: breakfast or whatever. That's what I've done at some of
Speaker 14: these past European things, and so it's kind of cool
Speaker 14: that way. Their stats are really good, they post photos,
Speaker 14: you know, it's it's you can kind of follow along
Speaker 14: even if you're out there pretty pretty closely. And so
Speaker 14: you know, last year there was I think there was
Speaker 14: zero basket U twenty where previous and well previously and
Speaker 14: Conrad Martinez are playing in it, and this is a
Speaker 14: little bigger deal than the seventeen. This is basically I
Speaker 14: think it's kind of the top junior tournament in the world,
Speaker 14: and you know, it's it's the interesting thing to me
Speaker 14: and going I got to go to their training camp
Speaker 14: in Colorado and how you know, the organization really views
Speaker 14: it as they're really tough a kind of team to
Speaker 14: put together. And it's not just because it's at the
Speaker 14: highest level of the oldest guys, but it's because at
Speaker 14: that U nineteen level, some of your best players are
Speaker 14: either going to the NBA or they're going to college
Speaker 14: and they don't want to play because they're getting ready,
Speaker 14: or maybe they got an NI you know, nil who
Speaker 14: knows or whatever. You know, there's there's a lot of
Speaker 14: reasons guys may not be available and then you're so
Speaker 14: then you have to go down in a year or two,
Speaker 14: not get your really good talent, which is what they did.
Speaker 14: They got Cole Pete, They've got you know, a couple
Speaker 14: other guys that Grand McCoy, alot the other guys that
Speaker 14: could be twenty twenty seven lottery picks on that team.
Speaker 14: So it's a really weird mix of pretty good players
Speaker 14: that are nineteen years and twenty years old or and
Speaker 14: then there's ones that are that are younger a year
Speaker 14: or two, but the super talented. So and then they
Speaker 14: had to mix those guys together in like literally ten
Speaker 14: days and then boom they're off Switzerland playing against teams
Speaker 14: that have been together for you know, months and years
Speaker 14: at the time. It's it's so it'll be a challenge
Speaker 14: that way, but they have a ton of talents, so
Speaker 14: and you know, it'll be an interesting test because you know,
Speaker 14: as we know, Tomy Gooyd's the guy who's putting that together,
Speaker 14: that talent together, and you know, how how's he going to.
Speaker 16: Make it work?
Speaker 2: The seed I'm sure he was happy to see you
Speaker 2: in Colorado Springs.
Speaker 3: Yeah you see.
Speaker 14: Yeah, actually actually no, actually, you know, you know talk
Speaker 14: about that interview where he answered your question.
Speaker 16: See, he was one of the first things he said,
Speaker 16: is he said, hey, didn't I give you guys.
Speaker 18: Enough like like forty minutes to the day, what do
Speaker 18: you why are you here or whatever?
Speaker 14: But I said, you know, I got to get some
Speaker 14: big things about how camp was going and then looking
Speaker 14: forward to the actual tournament is what I asked him about.
Speaker 14: And and I actually only talk to him to like
Speaker 14: seven manes. He was fine, but he's just those things
Speaker 14: are super busy because they're they're they practiced twice the day,
Speaker 14: they're constantly meetians, They're they're making you know, roster decisions
Speaker 14: to the cut. It's really intense. But I was there,
Speaker 14: you know, in large parts to talk to a lot
Speaker 14: of other people, not only well Pet, but a few.
Speaker 16: Of several of the players.
Speaker 14: But also he's got you know, two staffers. He's got
Speaker 14: one of his assistants, and then back mess is there,
Speaker 14: and then he's got Justin Kokoski, a long time trainer,
Speaker 14: was there. I talked to him for a while. He
Speaker 14: actually gave us a tour of some of the other
Speaker 14: Olympic facilities, which is really cool. He ran into like
Speaker 14: Ukrainian wrestling team, you know, like if you're on the
Speaker 14: Ukrainian wrestling team, pretty good place to.
Speaker 16: Be for a number of reasons. Yeah, and you know
Speaker 16: this is really cool.
Speaker 14: It's just the dining hall is just mind blowing. The
Speaker 14: sixteen varieties of lettuce in this case on the wall.
Speaker 14: I mean, it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 16: The things that have.
Speaker 18: Really cool.
Speaker 2: Did they have some Norton dogs there, because we know
Speaker 2: Tommy Lloyd's a fell.
Speaker 16: No, no, no at all.
Speaker 3: I don't think Bruce went to interviewing. Maybe maybe we
Speaker 3: went to have salad sixteen types of salad out there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we've got to get Bruce a better agent.
Speaker 14: I know Lloyd took him to some Argentinian steakhouses when
Speaker 14: they went down there. Say so maybe they'll get some
Speaker 14: Bondu and Switzerland or something like that.
Speaker 16: I don't know. We'll see.
Speaker 3: We got to get you an agent, so I get
Speaker 3: you on that plane on the same plane as to Switzerland.
Speaker 3: We got to get your better agent.
Speaker 16: Oh I wish.
Speaker 14: Yeah, that would be great, but you know it's that's
Speaker 14: that's an expensive place to go to.
Speaker 2: That was part of the Well Bruce, thanks a bunch
Speaker 2: of men. Take care. I'll talk to you again soon
Speaker 2: or see you soon too, Okay, Yeah, all right, thank you. Yeah, thanks.
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Speaker 2: I started nineteen ninety do it and Bruce came on
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Speaker 2: you got ready behind the other mic I did.
Speaker 3: I did like his story about being up in the
Speaker 3: Colorado Springs.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And you know, they really do a good job taking
Speaker 3: care of their athletes and if you're a reporter, I
Speaker 3: mean they feed you up there.
Speaker 2: It's yes, I've never been. I've never been to that situation.
Speaker 2: I've been to two Olympics, but never there. Greece and
Speaker 2: Australia years ago.
Speaker 3: I worked at when I was up in flag Staff,
Speaker 3: I worked at the NPR station and I got to
Speaker 3: cover the Cardinals. Remember they used to come out there
Speaker 3: and they would feed the press. They would you could
Speaker 3: eat that there, sure, and you you know that. But
Speaker 3: my mind was blown. I mean they were feeding me,
Speaker 3: a college kid. And then I would bring my roommates
Speaker 3: as my quote unquote field producer and they did. They
Speaker 3: didn't fight it.
Speaker 5: I didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you were. I was a hero.
Speaker 2: God, you've always been skinny. Yep. So if you guys
Speaker 2: want to call five two oh four one six seventy
Speaker 2: four forty, appreciate it. We got a new caller yesterday,
Speaker 2: the first time caller, I think it was Can, right, yes,
Speaker 2: Can a good call. So and then our usuals. So
Speaker 2: that's cool. Team Money, uh, Team Money College. So we
Speaker 2: had the r J answer, right, Rondie Hollis Jefferson was
Speaker 2: the guy at the last minute. Oh yeah, let's got
Speaker 2: to sneeze. So again, if you want to call anything else,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, Bruce, Bruce is on top of all this stuff. No,
Speaker 2: he's got to get up in the morning to game.
Speaker 3: Do you remember when the NBA. Do you remember when
Speaker 3: the NBA Draft used to be like one day, one day,
Speaker 3: one day, and it was twelve rounds.
Speaker 2: It was a long time ago, at least four or five. Yeah,
Speaker 2: twelve rounds.
Speaker 3: Used to it used to be seven, right, used to
Speaker 3: be seven or eight rounds.
Speaker 2: Kind of like baseball used to be like twenty six.
Speaker 3: And you know we uh you know, I was, I
Speaker 3: was a college athlete, and we always uh joke that
Speaker 3: we were going to give up our last year of
Speaker 3: college eligibility and declare for the NBA Draft. We never
Speaker 3: got picked up, but yeah, used to be uh used
Speaker 3: to be seven r eight rounds. You know, you know
Speaker 3: how many every teams they had twenty six and it
Speaker 3: was and it was a long day, and you know,
Speaker 3: NBA wasn't a thing like it is now.
Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting it on Wednesday to be one one round.
Speaker 2: It must be allergic to you too, I know that's something.
Speaker 2: It's something in the cold. Are here no one round?
Speaker 2: I thought they're gonna be two because it goes by
Speaker 2: quickly in the second time. Uh. The second round was
Speaker 2: just as as boring as probably the show. And it
Speaker 2: was it was like, okay, what.
Speaker 3: Are you doing this, dude?
Speaker 2: What what?
Speaker 3: Just you know? Just just do it and then then
Speaker 3: tell me I want to be I want to binge
Speaker 3: the draft. I just want to I want to know.
Speaker 3: I want to know it. I want to know all
Speaker 3: the way to the end.
Speaker 2: Right, so they should have I'm sure they're going to
Speaker 2: redo it. And then ESPN didn't do a great I
Speaker 2: was do you watch it right?
Speaker 6: I actually did not watch it yesterday. It was just
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I keep up with the NBA.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't say I'm like a I'm a diode like fan. Uh,
Speaker 6: but you know, obviously everybody likes the playoffs, but yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so and then who knows about these guys gonna
Speaker 2: land in the second round. I do think that he
Speaker 2: has a chance of, you know, playing a few games
Speaker 2: in the NBA, so good prayer. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean it was interesting too because Ballow got
Speaker 6: picked up as well.
Speaker 3: Did you see that?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well you're gonna save it for next time?
Speaker 2: Say no, save it same because that's be interesting. I
Speaker 2: didn't know this. What about the other U of a
Speaker 2: senior Townsend? Townsend, I didn't.
Speaker 6: I haven't seen anything on him so far or at
Speaker 6: least the Seams hasn't tweeted anything out.
Speaker 3: That's usually where I get information from.
Speaker 2: Isn't a bad thing. In fact, a text of Bruce
Speaker 2: you might know about Townsend yea, But other than that,
Speaker 2: there was really nobody who left right.
Speaker 3: But you know, he was talking about the maturity of
Speaker 3: Caleb when we talked about Ace, and we talked about
Speaker 3: some other stuff. And I believe that the nil we
Speaker 3: talked about it a lot is going to keep a
Speaker 3: lot of kids in college. And it's gonna You're gonna
Speaker 3: get a lot of kids like Caleb who are twenty
Speaker 3: two to twenty three that show up to an NBA
Speaker 3: franchise and they're you know, they're young adults. They're no
Speaker 3: longer knuckle had eighteen year olds. You know, they're young adults.
Speaker 2: Remember that a lot of them are going to take
Speaker 2: a pay cut.
Speaker 3: From when I go to the NBA.
Speaker 2: They were getting paid. Well. The mainion reference to that yesterday,
Speaker 2: I think on the radio the Center from Michigan. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that guy and probably Caleb, who made a lot of
Speaker 2: money here and I'll have to take a you know,
Speaker 2: a salary cut playing at the next level because here
Speaker 2: it's like free money. Free money, especially if your university
Speaker 2: loves you. We got a call? Okay, cool, although you're
Speaker 2: on the air nine of the ball. Who's this? Hey, Steve?
Speaker 2: This is done? Hey done?
Speaker 3: Hey Don?
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 18: Heye?
Speaker 2: How you guys doing.
Speaker 14: Well?
Speaker 18: What I think the problem is with the with the
Speaker 18: drafts is the time that each team is allotted to
Speaker 18: make their pick.
Speaker 2: You know they good?
Speaker 18: Is it like eight minutes or ten minutes to make
Speaker 18: a pick? I think it's five, it's like fifteen. It's
Speaker 18: closer to fifteen.
Speaker 2: I think it.
Speaker 18: Just seems to me if you've been if you're a
Speaker 18: team and you've been studying, and Team A takes player twelve,
Speaker 18: two picks ahead of you, and you're going, wow, we
Speaker 18: got to rethink this. I would have thought that you
Speaker 18: would have had planned if this guy goes or this
Speaker 18: guy falls, you already have everything in place. I just
Speaker 18: think that the picks, the pick intervals should be shorter.
Speaker 18: And if you go, oh, shoot, oh we're talking about
Speaker 18: a trade, you could notify the thing and then it
Speaker 18: gets extended for two minutes at least, you know why
Speaker 18: it's taking so dang long for yeah, like how long
Speaker 18: did how long did it take for Cooper Flagg to
Speaker 18: get named.
Speaker 2: Well, that's it. They started a little late on five
Speaker 2: and they even mentioned that, uh so maybe ten minutes,
Speaker 2: ten minutes because they started five h five that's when
Speaker 2: it started late. So five ten ish. I was in
Speaker 2: the car from the show and they went five after Look,
Speaker 2: there's thirty picks times five, so win an hour and
Speaker 2: a half hour, forty minutes. If they went fifteen minutes,
Speaker 2: thirty picks at fifteen minutes, we're going to ten.
Speaker 3: That's like the NFL draft by.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's different.
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, the NFL draft. It's just it's like, you know,
Speaker 18: the first team knows they're going to pick that quarterback
Speaker 18: Cam Moore is going to be the number one pick.
Speaker 18: Then you had going in. Why did it still take
Speaker 18: seventy five percent of their clock to name him? Yeah,
Speaker 18: they were they weren't taking trade they weren't taking trade offers, right,
Speaker 18: they were going to take the guy. So just take
Speaker 18: the guy and let's move on interval and say hey,
Speaker 18: we're talking trade and then you know, and then kickstart
Speaker 18: the extra time to to to see if you're going
Speaker 18: to make that trade.
Speaker 2: Drama, Baby, we need the drama.
Speaker 3: It's a two and a half hour TV show man,
Speaker 3: let's go.
Speaker 18: It's boring. It's just it's just so boring when you
Speaker 18: know those we need that first, guys, we needed s
Speaker 18: VU music to something.
Speaker 3: Don I'm gonna give you the Phoenix sounds funner. I
Speaker 3: want you to call him. They need they need draft help.
Speaker 18: But oh no, no, no, no, I'm so I am.
Speaker 18: You know what, I don't care what happens to our
Speaker 18: one and done's but when when Carter fell past the suns,
Speaker 18: I was so happy.
Speaker 5: For him.
Speaker 2: That we're gonna take you to one.
Speaker 18: I'm really concerned for. The one I'm really concerned for
Speaker 18: is Caleb Love because I just wonder how much of
Speaker 18: his ups and downs and his inconsistencies, how much of
Speaker 18: that was a product uh you know, maybe he was
Speaker 18: trying to do something else, and maybe he was you know,
Speaker 18: maybe you know, and and Tommy won't give us the strategies,
Speaker 18: so we don't know how much of it was a
Speaker 18: product of what they were trying to do, maybe what
Speaker 18: they were trying to get him to work on and
Speaker 18: those things. But when we need when they needed him,
Speaker 18: he was lights out, especially like against Duke right, and
Speaker 18: so I just hope he gets a fair shot to
Speaker 18: show himself, and I hope he gets a fair opportunity
Speaker 18: to make a living in the NBA, because we know
Speaker 18: he's going to make money somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no question about that. Thanks about We got
Speaker 2: to get out of here. Appreciate it, have a good weekend. Sorry, goot, No,
Speaker 2: that's cool. Yeah, we got about three minutes, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: three minutes. Anybody wants to sneak in a car. I
Speaker 2: think there's somebody called in Yeah, sorry Vic oh, Vic
Speaker 2: called him vict if you want to do it for
Speaker 2: Vick minute? Uh yeah, No, it's not fifteen. There's definitely
Speaker 2: FEI that's fine, that's too long. It's five because you
Speaker 2: got to get you got twenty eight in a minute.
Speaker 2: You got thirty an hour and a half hour, forty minutes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a TV show, you know. I mean they're
Speaker 3: they're taking a peek at the NFL's model of like
Speaker 3: making an event, and they stumbled out of the gate
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a one day thing.
Speaker 3: It's a one day and that's what it should be.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think the commercials too.
Speaker 6: You gotta oh, yeah, you gotta stuff.
Speaker 2: You get to pay the people it's like me gotta
Speaker 2: get more ads. Anybody want to wants to advertise, just
Speaker 2: give me a bus.
Speaker 3: It's a good loyal audience. You and I talk about
Speaker 3: this all the time. We talk about selling this audience.
Speaker 2: People listen, they do.
Speaker 3: They listen, They're loyal, they call.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sure people like when you come on.
Speaker 4: People's oh Tims, Oh my god, I'm turning. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: turn the up. I don't have to talk to him
Speaker 4: this weekend. I get this to exactly. That's perfect.
Speaker 2: The wife probably doesn't.
Speaker 3: What are you doing today? I'm like, I'm on the
Speaker 3: radio today. She goes, okay, later something else. Always a
Speaker 3: drop off right at the beginning of the second right.
Speaker 4: So we're we're finishing the first hour. You can have
Speaker 4: breaking He's coming up next hour the breaking news.
Speaker 2: I guess he does have some breaking news that I
Speaker 2: don't know, the ball stuff and nobody else.
Speaker 14: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then we're gonna have the FC two son coach
Speaker 2: Sebastian And then we're gonna have Sean Elliott for forty
Speaker 2: two Sean Elliott. So I hope you guys stick around
Speaker 2: and listen to Sean.
Speaker 3: Jam packed second hour.
Speaker 2: Ready, Uh yeah, I guess we can just go