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Speaker 2: Former RNC chair and North Carolina Senate candidate Michael Whatley
is with us on WBT. Michael, number one, thank you
for taking the time to speak with me on this
super busy day, this time of the year for all
of us. And number two tell us about Friday night
in Rocky Mount.
Speaker 3: Well, I got to say, it's great to be on
with you, and man, what an absolutely fantastic event to
have the president come in and be able to talk
about the economic policies that he is putting to place.
You know right now, you know, when you think about it,
he ran, you know, on kind of three premises, right,
so it was rebuild the economy number one, then you know,
restore our borders, and then make sure that America is
respected again around the world. The other two absolutely fantastic.
And on the economy, he is working every single day
to make sure that we are creating jobs that were
raising wages and lowering costs.
Speaker 2: I've seen you in previous interviews say that you are,
you know, hoping to advance the Trump agenda, but also
take care of the people in your state. Your opponent,
the former governor, is also a native North Carolinian, also
a UNC grad. I think you went to school here
in Charlotte. He went to Chapel Hill. You're both attorneys,
and I think that's about where the similarities end, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, you think about what I want to do.
I want to make sure that we have economic policies
that are going to you know, trade policies and tax
policies and regulatory policies that are going to help our manufacturers,
our small businesses, and our farmers. You know, Roy Cooper
has never seen a dollar that he didn't want to
tax or spend. Vetoed six different tax cuts when he
was the governor, and said that he would have opposed
President Trump's one big, beautiful bill. You know, I want
to make sure that we're going to keep our kids
in our community safe. And Roy Cooper vetoed bills to
keep boys out of girls' sports and men out of
women's locker rooms. He vetoed bills that would have forced
ice to our sheriffs to honor ice detainers, and he
authored an executive order to reimagine law enforcement as he
put it, created cashlest bale and pre trial released, and
has unleashed a torrent of crime that is really hitting
North Carolina across the state.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit earlier, I was talking about the
when when Joe Biden first became president, when the Biden
presidency first started and illegals started pouring in. I had
said at the time, when incidents started to occur in
larger cities around the country with trende Uragua and MS
thirteen and this and that, I said, it's only a
matter of time till we start to see these type
of things in other cities, and it could even happen
here in Charlotte, North Carolina, and people, you know, thought
I was crazy. And a year or two later, you know,
we started to see gang members and illegal immigrants, you know,
pouring into places like Charlotte, North Carolina and other cities.
I was talking about Mayor vy Lyles a little bit earlier.
It's amazing that she got reelected now on her fifth term,
and the people of North Carolina also re elected a
Democratic governor. You have one hundred ten percent support from
the president. But what makes what makes us confident that
you are going to secure the seed?
Speaker 3: Well, North Carolina is a purple state, and we have
always been a purple state. We're right now about thirty
percent Republican, thirty percent Democrat, forty percent unaffiliated, which is
our version of independence. And the way that that tends
to kind of manifest itself as Democrats tend to win governor,
lieutenant governor, Attorney general, Secretary of State. Republicans tend to
win Congress, and they tend to win the Senate, and
they tend to win the presidentials. So you know, we
do have history on our side here, but more important
than that is we have policy on our side. Republicans
win in North Carolina when we focus on the issues
that the voters care about, when we understand those issues
and we put solutions on the table. And so you know,
I am out there right now. We're touring all one
hundred counties across North Carolina. We're listening. We're meeting with sheriffs,
We're meeting with law enforcement officers, We're meeting with small
business owners and farmers and really truly kind of pulling
together what is it that they need because we want
to have that conversation. You know, Roy Cooper is going
to run from the basement. It's basically Joe Biden two
point zero. They are going to raise and spend a
ton of money. That's what the Democrats always do. They're
not going to have a creative bone in their body
as they as they get ready to go into this campaign.
But I think fundamentally why we're going to win is
because the voters of North Carolina support the America First agenda.
Donald Trump won this state all three times twenty sixteen,
twenty twenty, and twenty twenty four for a reason because
he connected with the voters about the issues that they
care about. That's exactly what we're going to be doing
as well.
Speaker 2: Did you have I'm just curious, did you have aspirations
of running for office prior to Tom Tillis's resignation or
when Laura Trump said she wasn't interested or she wasn't
going to do it. I mean, did the did the
the President sort of you know, talk you into it
or is this something you had been thinking about, whether
whether it was you know, Congress or the Senate, you know,
the House or the Senate or whatever. Is this something
that was on your radar?
Speaker 3: This was not on my big O card, you know.
I President had asked me to return to the r
n C UH and make sure that you know, we
navigate these midterm election cycles. Uh. He's extremely concerned with
making sure that he has a Republican House and a
Republican Senate in order to be able to fill out
his term and advance this America First agenda.
Speaker 4: UH.
Speaker 3: And I had totally lined that up. And when people
had started to call and say, hey, you need to
think about this or look at this, I told him
I'm not doing anything until the President and I have
a chance to call, you know, to talk. And when
the President called and and was very you know, strong
in terms of saying, hey, look, you know you need
to be you know, you need to run. You know,
so so you're gonna you're gonna run, You're gonna win,
and you're gonna do great. You know. That was that
was really when I kind of sat back and said, okay,
here's here's here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: So the President rang the bell and you answered the bell.
Speaker 3: Yes. And and it's very interesting because you know, I,
you know, got a call from Trump Tower ten years
ago in November of twenty fifteen asking me if I
would run North Carolina for him on his presidential campaign.
And then a similar call asking me if I would
be the state party chair and then the RNC chair.
So you know, when I called my wife after this
last call, she said, you know, you need to stop
taking this guy's calls.
Speaker 2: That sounds exactly like something a wife would say, right. Well,
and I don't want to brush aside the phenomenal that
job that you've done at the RNC is well starting
you know with North Carolina when you were the chair
of the North Carolina Republican Party. Phenomenal job there, phenomenal
party at the RNC, you completed the mission Trump is
you know now in his second term, things are moving along.
Before we let you go just real quick. You know
you mentioned the midterms, right assuming you win. I mean,
you know, as a Republican, how concerned are you about
all the Republicans that could be leaving. It's it's mostly
in the House, but all the Republicans that are giving
up their seat for gubernatorial runs, right you have Byron
Donald's in Florida, Nancy Mace in South Carolina, Marshall Blackburn
and Tennessee. I think there's a couple of others the
Republicans could end up, you know, with some empty seats.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So we have in every election cycle a number
of people that are going to step down, you know,
step out, retire people who have you know, want to
move up, or people who just want to get back
to their families. That is always going to be the case,
you know. I've had multiple conversations with Speaker Johnson and
with Richard Hudson, who's the chair of the National Republican
you know, Congressional Committee and doing a phenomenal job over
there kind of recruiting candidates, and we feel like we
will really have a great group of candidates that are
going to be on the field and ultimately, you know,
winning the House is going to require us to have
a really good economy. It's going to require us to
have a really good environment that we're going to be
running in.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: But you know, candidates and campaigns matter, and we need
to make sure that that we are recruiting, uh and
and training the best set of candidates we can have
going into the cycle.
Speaker 2: What do you know about Elise Stefanic You mentioned people
always you know, dropping out and wanting to spend time
with their families, which is sort of what she said
that you know, she this time of year made her
realize she needs to spend more time with her kid
and all that. I'm not so sure I believe that exactly.
Speaker 3: Well, I consider at least a very good friend, and
I've not talked to her since her announcement on Friday,
but I have had multiple conversations with her over the
past several years. And and you know, she has a
very young, uh you know child, Uh and you know
she had restricted travel, you know, while while she was
you know, pregnant, and then you know, in immediate aftermath,
and that's just really hard. You know, my wife and I, Suzanne,
you know, we we had an understanding that I would
not ever you know, look at doing anything political while
we had our kids at home, and uh, you know
that that was something that you know, I think a
lot of people, you know kind of are able to
to to navigate that. But when we had, you know,
our kids at home, I wanted to be at home
with them, and I certainly understand where Lisa's coming from
on that.
Speaker 2: All right, That is your Republican Senate candidate Michael Watley,
former r n C chair. Michael, Merry Christmas to you
and your wife, your family. Thank you again for taking
time for us today. We appreciate it. Hopefully we'll hear
from you again here on WBT and all the best
in a race that you must win.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I really appreciate it, and I hope everybody listening
has a very merry Christmas.
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in general. What do you think about the one point
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earlier today one point six billion for grabs three days
technically two days, two nights before Christmas Eve. That would
be sweet right. Thank you again, two former chairmen and
Senate candidate Michael Wattley for joining us today, fresh off
of his big event in Rocky Mount, North Carolina on
Friday night. As I mentioned earlier, President Trump made a
speech there where he talked a lot about the economy,
how it's affected North Carolina, the Friday ruling on pharmaceuticals,
and aside from Trump's speech, the whole thing was sort
of a big rally for Michael Wattley. Mister Wattley gave
the opening remarks and then introduced President Trump, who came
out and talked about a whole lot of things. We
have one cut from that event on Friday night in
Rocky Mount. Only hours ago, I left a meeting at
the White House where we cut. There the prescription drugs
by three hundred, four hundred, five hundred had even six
hundred percent.
Speaker 3: The drug companies turned out to really do the right thing,
and they really did.
Speaker 2: But and they were there at the White.
Speaker 3: House today, some of the biggest companies in the world
where they're the rest of them are coming next week.
Speaker 2: So the President saying the drug companies are doing the
right thing by lowering prices, So that either tells you
the profit margin is so huge, or you know, the
president sort of putting the squeeze on them is working.
I mean everything that he's done, as far as tariffs,
lowering prices on gas, now, pharmaceuticals, I mean, everything that
he's done. He mostly says whatever the industry is that
they were very cooperative, and you know they're really they're
very cooperative, and they're really, you know, almost happy to
do it, which is hard to believe, especially when it
comes to the drug companies, because no company, you know,
wants to give up any money, right, and we know
the drug companies are all about money. I mean, it's
gotten to the point where, like every other commercial on
TV is some sort of pharmaceutical commercial. Every time I
see a commercial for some drug about some condition that
I never even heard of, it makes me think, you know,
fifty years ago, sixty seventy five years ago, what did
people do? I mean, all of these conditions that we
supposedly have today, I mean they must have existed years ago, right,
did everyone just suffer along with it. You had a
condition you didn't even know you had, or you know,
people just died and nobody really knew why. I don't know,
or I don't want to say they're making stuff up,
but you know, they just keep coming up with different things.
The thing that makes me laugh the most, and I'm
no doctor, I'm no pharmaceutical expert, I'm no RFK junior.
But the thing that makes me laugh the most is
when they have a drug and you know, and I mean,
there are legitimate conditions out there. I'm not making fun
of any health condition, but you know, when they try
and sell people on a drug to counter act the
side effects of another drug, whatever it might be. You're
taking this drug for diabetes, but you have side effects,
so you need to take that other drug to counter
the diabetes side effects. I mean, it's insane. But anyway,
a lot of pharmaceuticals now going to cost a whole
lot less, according to the President, and supposedly the pharmaceutical
companies are happy about it as well.
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Speaker 2: And I'm being told that WBT News director Mark Garrison,
who should also be on a much well deserved vacation,
is calling in. Mark Garrison. It is awesome to speak
to you my friend.
Speaker 4: Hello, Tony, how the world are you?
Speaker 2: I am doing well, how are you and your family
and everything going? And I guess what? This is day
one of your vacation.
Speaker 4: Well, actually I was off last week too, so this
is oh okay, all.
Speaker 2: Right, well rolling, we'll keep it. We'll keep it on
the low down, all right. So that's that explains why
you were listening to the radio today. You've already had
a week of vacation exactly. Hey, before I forget, I
did notice. I see it's I don't know how new
it is, but it's new to me. I see that
you have a new podcast available at the wbt T website. Well,
I'm sure it's available everywhere, but I saw it on
the website where you tell your fantastic stories like nobody
else in the radio industry tells stories.
Speaker 4: Well, we do have a little bit of a website.
It's just called Mark Garrison Reporting where we put some
of the stories that we've done over the course of
the last year. And it's kind of interesting places to
visit or interesting places to eat. I really love those stories.
So yeah, it's listed with our podcast. It just says
Mark Garrison Reporting. So that's kind of fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because every every one of those stories that you do,
you know, it's it's it's worth hearing again most most
of them are. You know, if you're not listening really close,
you miss you know, you're going to miss some things.
So you need to go back and listen at least
twice anyway, because like I said, you are you are
one of the best storytellers there are.
Speaker 4: Oh, you're very kind for sure, the king of podcasting
Newsmatch right.
Speaker 2: Well I hate to say that, but yes, next to you,
there's Joe Rogan. There's Joe Rogan, Megan Kelly, and Tony
Marino and now Dan Bonginoy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now you know, Dan Bongino apparently is going to
come back, So I'll slip the fourth place. But it's
still pretty good.
Speaker 4: It's going to be interesting to see when Bongino comes back,
if he spills any beans or if he just just
sort of glosses over his time at the FBI. Oh.
Speaker 2: I I have a feeling the little the little bit
that I know Danu and a little bit that you know,
and and just knowing his personality from listening to him,
I have a pretty good feeling we're going to get
a lot, you know, of of inside stuff, at least
to the point that he's able to speak about it.
You know, obviously you can't. You can't just divulge all
kinds of inside information from the FBI. But I think
he's going to have a lot of sour grapes for us.
But I could be wrong.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. I think he may dump on
Pam Bondi quite a bit. That'll be interesting to hear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, that's definitely one of the things. Hey, So,
I'm really glad you called. You obviously have your finger
on the pulse of Charlotte, and I've been talking about
vy Liles. I'm just curious. I mean, did anybody even
run against vy Liles? I mean, how does she I
understand the demographics, but how does she get elected for
a fifth term?
Speaker 4: Well, nobody of substance ran against her, Let's put it
that way. She did have some Democratic challengers who were
just wasting their time. And honestly, you know, it's her
name recognition combined with the fact that Charlotte is nearly
all Democratic when it comes right within the city limits
to voter registration. So you know, in that sense, the
fix was in from the beginning. So that's pretty much
the short end of the short story of how she
got back in. And it's interesting because had she had
some serious competition, there were plenty of things to find
fault with her about, particularly after the light rail stabbing.
But yeah, she had no trouble at all.
Speaker 2: So a Republican even thinking, you know, of running in
Charlotte would kind of be like Curtis Leiwa running in
New York.
Speaker 4: That good analogy. Yes, that's an excellent analogy. Unfortunately it
is that way. We have kind of a one party
system in town now. It's only one loan Republican on
the city council now, and he sort of started to
go along to get along with the Democrats. So that's
kind of interesting to watch as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he wants to keep his job, he's going
to have to play ball a little bit more, I guess, right.
And what let me ask you about Sheriff McFadden. What's
happening with Gary I am homicide McFadden?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I am homicide. A lot of people forget that.
That's a cable show that he was on when he
was a detective in Charlotte, and that's so he got
national attention as a homicide detective on cable television. Well,
I mean he does not have an impressive record as sheriff,
is all at all. You know, a large number of
prisoners have died under his watch. The state has highly
criticized how he runs the jail. Two of his top
chief deputies have quit, saying he's impossible to work for.
He fired the woman who was in charge of shall
we say, the book keeping there because she she says,
she refused to cook the books as he requested. Now
she's now she's suing him in federal court. And then
of course he continues not to cooperate with Ice. So
I mean, he just he doesn't have a record to
run on, and yet the power of incumbency, he has
two of his former chief deputies running against him, a
former Charlotte cop running against him. I think they will
all have a hard time really wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, for the folks that have seen
his TV show, you see he has a pension for
fine clothing, right, and as the sheriff, I mean he
obviously has a pretty good salary. You might know what
that is off the top of your head. I don't,
But I mean, as a sheriff. He's making a pretty
darn good salary. But I don't want to I hate
to say that. I'm not surprised that, you know, allegations
of possibly cooking the books, because he seems to like
expensive things and dressing real nice and acting like a
TV star.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yes, Flamboyant is one word that comes
to mind describing him. He is a flashy dresser. He
actually always has been, even when he was on the
streets as a detective here in Charlotte working for Charlotte Police. Yeah,
he's always what is the term sartorial splendor when you
that's a certain way. But yeah, I what's going to
have to happen is one of the candidates has done
security for the Carolina Panthers for many years, and a
couple of big name players like Luke Keiklear backing him.
They are going to have to hit the hip and
come up with a lot of money and honestly go
after him with negative advertising if they hope to beat him.
And I'm not sure that they have a stomach for that,
to be honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah I did. And now that you mentioned that,
I do remember reading that a while ago about the
guy that did security and I think in social media going.
Speaker 4: To be a fundraise to watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well, it's great to hear from you.
And if you're not, if you're not too busy on
your vacation, maybe we'll do this again tomorrow.
Speaker 4: I can call in sure, no profit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see it. You know, if there's any any
big local news in the next twenty four hours that
we could talk about tomorrow, or you know, we'll just
talk about other stuff because there's plenty to talk about.
Speaker 4: Well, that's the truth. It's been quite a year crime
wise here in Charlotte, so we could certainly talk about that.
Speaker 2: All right. That is the great Mark Garrison, WBT News director,
And don't forget if you haven't checked out his podcast
there on the WBT website, go check it out. All right, Mark,
thank you very much.
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you want to go back and listen to it. Pete
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Pete's podcast is up there on the website. He talked
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sent prior to the plane crash that has been unveiled today.
There's nothing as of yet in the way of funeral
preparations or anything like that, but we will certainly certainly
keep you posted. President Trump is now at Mara A
Lago for the Christmas break. He arrived in Palm Beach
around one o'clock in the morning Friday night, which is
really Saturday morning, right after the event in North Carolina.
If you are just tuning in, we spoke with Michael
Wattley a little bit earlier. You're a Republican North Carolina
Senate candidate and former RNC chair who was at the
event in Rocky Mount Friday night. It was basically an
event for Michael Wattley, one percent endorsed by President Trump,
but he flew from Rocky Mount to Palm Beach International Airport,
then over to Mara A Lago, got there a little
bit after one in the morning, So I was saying earlier,
you know, maybe he got to sleep at two, and
he was out on his golf course at nine to
thirty in the morning. And if you do the math,
you know, he obviously would have had to wake up,
take a shower, get dressed, get a ride over to
the golf course ten to fifteen minutes away from mar
A Lago. So maybe, you know, maybe he was up
at seven in the morning, went to bed around two,
up at seven playing golf. Seventy nine years old. I mean,
it's a lot for anybody, but at seventy nine years old,
it's fairly incredible. He just keeps rolling, right. So in
the big news, of course, excuse me. On Friday, President's
announcement on pharmaceutical drugs and then the event in Rocky Mountain,
North Carolina, but the release of the Jeffrey Epstein files. Finally,
Friday was the deadline, the self imposed deadline from the
Epstein transper Parentcy Act that Congress created and signed and
the President signed. Friday was the deadline for all of
the information to be released. And although another trove of
information has been released and I will say, if you
don't listen to my podcast, if you don't have you know,
any idea who I am. I'm I'm on the side
of the people that wanted to see this all released,
mostly to just get it over with, right. They've been
talking about all of this for so long, so much stuff,
and I wanted it to just all, you know, be
out there and let everybody absorb it and digest it
and just be done with it. But now there's a
whole bunch of hoopla about the information that was released
or not released on Friday, which we'll talk about in
the next hour.
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