Speaker 1: Ah, there we go. It's October.
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, we got the music for October past year.
Speaker 2: It is a green Country Guard program and learned glasses.
Speaker 3: I set my iron skill on the on the sidewalk
Speaker 3: and cook my breakfast.
Speaker 1: I bet you did. My goodness, whoever thought it be
Speaker 1: this hot in October? Huh? I know, God, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: You look like you lost about another three or four
Speaker 2: pounds just water weight the last week.
Speaker 3: You bet there's another notch on the belt.
Speaker 1: Like, yes, we're gonna run out of belt homes anyway.
Speaker 3: But despite this anomalous weather pattern, there's things we need
Speaker 3: to be doing doing in the fault. Okay, And right
Speaker 3: now the mums are starting to open up, and the
Speaker 3: Panzi's and kale are out and ready for those beds.
Speaker 1: Get those beds ready.
Speaker 3: Remember you can't plot them into clay now because by
Speaker 3: all means Pansy's I guess that's the name implies they're
Speaker 3: not very tough. Okay, yeah, they don't. They don't do
Speaker 3: well in the clay. So if you do want something
Speaker 3: like that, we've done pansy plantings for customers and we
Speaker 3: add the composts and there's one one person we've done
Speaker 3: for for god must have been fifteen years. Finally, we
Speaker 3: just don't need to add any composts anymore. You don't
Speaker 3: even have to dig a hole. You just kind of
Speaker 3: scratch and put it in and they do great. So
Speaker 3: you got to you really have to have kind of
Speaker 3: a loose soil for the pansies to do well well, okay,
Speaker 3: and you do what you can to moderate fluctuations in
Speaker 3: the soil.
Speaker 1: Temperature too, because you're going to get them.
Speaker 3: Hot enough to melt lead one day and hot.
Speaker 1: Enough to freeze.
Speaker 3: Well anyway, if or weather it's rather up and down here,
Speaker 3: if you will, so anyway for the gread and plant
Speaker 3: those right now. The kale plant's also can be planted
Speaker 3: right now. At this point, we have a greenhouse full
Speaker 3: of a panzies at the nursery.
Speaker 1: So those of you with colored radar are there. You go, there,
Speaker 1: we go, there's our there's our production. My goodness sakes
Speaker 1: that time. We have thousands, thousands.
Speaker 3: Of them in the greenhouse ready to be ready to go,
Speaker 3: and they need to be in the ground pretty soon.
Speaker 1: Rose and Rose, they go, yeah, look at look at that. Jeezus,
Speaker 1: what is that seventy feet long? It's a.
Speaker 3: It's a one hundred foot long greenhouse and each bench
Speaker 3: is about ten feet wide.
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, you got quite a lot.
Speaker 3: Actually, we do some exporting too. You sell to other
Speaker 3: nurseries in the tul and so on.
Speaker 1: All right, so yeah, so you're one of them. Got
Speaker 1: your big stuff.
Speaker 3: Now keep in mind that your soil really needs to
Speaker 3: be done right for them to do well. Okay, and
Speaker 3: the addition of even some pete moss or we don't
Speaker 3: you saw this because it'll in the decomposition of the sawdust,
Speaker 3: nitrogen is consumed by the bacteria and break it down.
Speaker 3: One problem people have with panzies are rabbits. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: get a little bag of blood meal, and they'll kind
Speaker 3: of stay away from the well that something like uncle
Speaker 3: uncle bunny there, so.
Speaker 1: They don't bother too much.
Speaker 3: But anyway, the blood meal is a good source of
Speaker 3: available nitrogen. However, as warm as it is, the blood
Speaker 3: meal can actually burn the plants, just like using any
Speaker 3: other heavy nitrogen on there. So it's something you want
Speaker 3: to do when it when it cools down a little bit,
Speaker 3: so and I think this week it is supposed to
Speaker 3: cool down somewhat, so good, thank you. Anyway, the ground
Speaker 3: is warm and the era is warm as prime time
Speaker 3: for fall planting. Rememb're always prepare that soil properly, uh
Speaker 3: before you even buy the plant to get you get
Speaker 3: your ground ready and get it turned up, get it
Speaker 3: all chopped.
Speaker 1: Up real nice.
Speaker 3: If it's really hard and difficult to prepare, you might
Speaker 3: want to consider watering it rather heavily the day before,
Speaker 3: and then it'll be a lot easier to work too.
Speaker 3: There you go, so right now our chiller is just
Speaker 3: bounces around, so you want to make sure it's wet.
Speaker 3: So gyp Some cis or two H steel can be
Speaker 3: used on all soil types and all pH ranges.
Speaker 1: It improves plant health and productivity.
Speaker 3: It helps fight diseases caused by fungus exactly. It improves
Speaker 3: nitrogen utilization and fixation. So cool stuff huh, helps manage
Speaker 3: macronutrient deficiencies, and it improves soil structure, eeration, drainage and
Speaker 3: vertibility of plants and so on, and reduces a soil
Speaker 3: surface crusting and improves seed emergence. So pretty good stuff.
Speaker 3: So it does help create optimum calcium slash magnesium ratio
Speaker 3: in your soil too, and it's safe for organic growers.
Speaker 3: So gypsum is pretty good stuff. Just be sure to
Speaker 3: follow the instructions carefully, don't don't apply too much, and
Speaker 3: you'll do just fine. I use a lot of it
Speaker 3: at home. My stuff because I live on Mars, basically.
Speaker 1: Does help loosen up the soil.
Speaker 3: And when we encounter soil prep that does involve a
Speaker 3: lot of bedwork, we do added to it to help loosen.
Speaker 1: It up too. So gyps is pretty good stuff.
Speaker 3: Okay, time on your lawns right now, let's see it's
Speaker 3: time to installve fisku seed. But time is kind of
Speaker 3: running out, so you want to get a little bit bit.
Speaker 3: It looks like it's upcoming week to night time temperatures,
Speaker 3: you're going.
Speaker 1: To be fairly cool. Yeah, So if you have.
Speaker 3: A means by which the water the ground can be
Speaker 3: irrigated effectively before you put down the said, you might
Speaker 3: consider doing that. If the ground is really hard and
Speaker 3: dry at this point, so fest your seed like you know,
Speaker 3: a fair fair amount of moisture and some on.
Speaker 1: You just don't scatter it on top of bare dry ground.
Speaker 3: We've had people come back and come into the nursery
Speaker 3: and say, well, can I just scatter this on the ground.
Speaker 3: I say, well you could, yeah, but your shovel bounces
Speaker 3: off the ground. If you really want to be successful
Speaker 3: at it, you want to do just at least a
Speaker 3: minimum of soil prep to get it to go on
Speaker 3: there real well, at the very very minimum. If you
Speaker 3: can dig up, dig in the ground a little bit,
Speaker 3: you might get a scoop of soil which we can
Speaker 3: deliver and do a top dressing and then put the
Speaker 3: seed on. Then it'll have a surface in which you
Speaker 3: can go down into and grow properly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do want to water your seedy.
Speaker 3: Don't water it all the time, just just water it
Speaker 3: real good and don't let it dry out too much.
Speaker 3: So you might consider watering in the morning. You can
Speaker 3: get elect a hose in timer them the nigger hose,
Speaker 3: interrogate and we'll go go to work, to work, come
Speaker 3: home from lunch. You might pop it on again a
Speaker 3: little bit.
Speaker 1: Or Actually they have.
Speaker 3: These digital plugin timers. I use them at home that
Speaker 3: you can little battery powered things. You can run them
Speaker 3: too through time today a certain amount of time too,
Speaker 3: and robotic watering.
Speaker 1: It helps a whole lot too.
Speaker 3: So I use them for my hanging pots connected to
Speaker 3: the hose every morning at seven o'clock.
Speaker 1: Here we go.
Speaker 3: So anyway, so you can more or less automate the
Speaker 3: water that way, that's one way to do it. But
Speaker 3: really a deep tilling and a bit of compost will
Speaker 3: make your efforts more successful.
Speaker 1: I mean, why go through all that work just to
Speaker 1: have it not work? So yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3: Okay, there are many rides of fescue out there we
Speaker 3: go with the five star. Five star fescue has five
Speaker 3: different varieties of rescue.
Speaker 1: When it one of them is bound to work. There
Speaker 1: you go.
Speaker 3: But it does make a good a good texture, and
Speaker 3: be careful not to over apply the sea the seed.
Speaker 1: Rather, we get some customers and they just put it
Speaker 1: on really really heavy.
Speaker 3: Well, when you do that, it kind of smothers itself
Speaker 3: out and your your grass comes up. Yeah, it looks
Speaker 3: really nice, but it starts to kind of wilt and
Speaker 3: turn brown because it's just too crowded.
Speaker 1: Because they're all fighting, all seeds are fighting.
Speaker 3: There's a resources for it to grow, and it grows
Speaker 3: up and it forms a matt if you will, and
Speaker 3: then you get an anaerobic fungal.
Speaker 2: Situation in the skills everything, and then you get phytop thoria,
Speaker 2: which is a fungus disease.
Speaker 3: It causes the collapse of the vascular tissue in the
Speaker 3: plant and they just fall over.
Speaker 1: Just like that, like that, and it was going.
Speaker 3: So, so know your square footage and if anything applies lighter,
Speaker 3: do more than one application. In other words, if it
Speaker 3: says use number four on the on the spreader, you
Speaker 3: might want to go with number two and do it
Speaker 3: lightly twice.
Speaker 1: That'll that'll give you better even distribution of your seat.
Speaker 3: Also, okay, And a fertilizer, maybe a ten twenty ten
Speaker 3: to get started with. The twenty is phosphorus and it
Speaker 3: helps the root growth and all that, and ten percent
Speaker 3: nitrogens enough.
Speaker 1: To get it off to a little bit of a
Speaker 1: good start.
Speaker 3: And when it finally cools down, then you can start
Speaker 3: adding more nitrogen to the soil. But you don't want
Speaker 3: to do too much because it'll grow too quickly and
Speaker 3: then you get stem disease. Yeah, rot because it's too
Speaker 3: tender and don't want that. Yeah, And as it grows. Also,
Speaker 3: you want to back off on the watering when it
Speaker 3: starts to sprout. Instead of keeping it wet, you want
Speaker 3: to have a dry period between waterings. So you water
Speaker 3: it one day and then waited day another day of
Speaker 3: way today, and as it gets more mature, you can
Speaker 3: water it one day and wait two days. Okay, one
Speaker 3: day and way two days later on, just so it
Speaker 3: does have a chance for the surface to dry out,
Speaker 3: because as warm as it is, we're gonna have some
Speaker 3: big difficulties with the fundus.
Speaker 2: You don't want that, don't want that at all, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, no funngus among us. No, we don't want to.
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Speaker 2: Gardener Program, it is eight twenty one.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. If you've got a question or.
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Speaker 1: What do we have? Well?
Speaker 3: Anyway, and in addition to grass seed, the fall color
Speaker 3: is starting to show up in the tree. Yeah. I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's stressed.
Speaker 1: Or what I'm gonna be willing to bet that it
Speaker 1: is a little bit of both.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But anyway, it's time to consider planting trees in
Speaker 3: the landscape. And you know, there are some things you
Speaker 3: want to consider when planting a tree. How big is
Speaker 3: it going to get? And what is your primary consideration
Speaker 3: for planting a tree? Is it specimen, flowering, fall, color,
Speaker 3: or shade? How much of a nuisance will you tolerate?
Speaker 3: Probably a little? And do you want grass under the tree?
Speaker 3: That will detect what kind of tree you plant? Also,
Speaker 3: and how deep is it before you hit bedrock? When
Speaker 3: Fred yells Fred and Wilma, yeah, you might find about it.
Speaker 3: All these factors have to be considered, and also create
Speaker 3: a buffer zone of fifteen feet from the house and
Speaker 3: concrete to help you locate the tree. Also, don't forget
Speaker 3: drainage patterns. I see this an awful lot.
Speaker 1: There'll be this little.
Speaker 3: Solil coming along the side of the house and going
Speaker 3: through the front yard, and oh, I want to punt
Speaker 3: the tree in the middle of the front yard. Well,
Speaker 3: sometimes that coincides with your drainage patterns.
Speaker 1: It do. And typically our soil here is kind of shallow.
Speaker 3: We have some some stone rock down below, maybe a
Speaker 3: dusting up to two inches to a dusting of soil
Speaker 3: in the surface.
Speaker 2: Sometimes even a small planet just found its way into our.
Speaker 1: Dandali at funny to grow there.
Speaker 3: So what's going to happen is, especially with maple trees
Speaker 3: and the pinoaks, throot mass as it increases in volume
Speaker 3: is going to raise the soil level. And if you
Speaker 3: are in a drainage pattern like that, it will prevent
Speaker 3: that drainage pattern from functioning properly. And there are a
Speaker 3: lot of houses here in town where drainage patterns are really.
Speaker 1: What I would consider critical just a little.
Speaker 3: You might have a three in different I actually go
Speaker 3: back towards the house. She though, what what were they thinking?
Speaker 1: But get her done so we can go on to
Speaker 1: the next one.
Speaker 3: Gettle bud on the on the on the four boxes
Speaker 3: on the box blade or.
Speaker 1: My brother does home repairs.
Speaker 3: Anyway, so you want to make sure to watch your
Speaker 3: drainage patterns, and also when you're picking out a tree,
Speaker 3: consider but it drops also like your brad repairs, which
Speaker 3: they're kind of pass right now. But anyway, they had
Speaker 3: a problem with the seeds coming up everywhere and a
Speaker 3: shallow rits system and.
Speaker 1: And weak growth have its a lot of them break
Speaker 1: up in the.
Speaker 3: Winds and some one like that, and uh river birds
Speaker 3: or another real bad one.
Speaker 1: The plant in an.
Speaker 3: Area where there's either a shallow soil or a critical drainage,
Speaker 3: because the riot system on a river bridge is extraordinarily shallow.
Speaker 3: And that's an adaptive strategy on their part because they're
Speaker 3: indigenous to lowland areas in which the soil is somewhat anaerobic,
Speaker 3: so in order to compensate for that, they have developed
Speaker 3: a shallow root system.
Speaker 1: So the silver.
Speaker 3: Maple, which is another one you probably don't want to plant,
Speaker 3: or river bridge in certain areas you don't want to
Speaker 3: plant just because of that riot system problem. The surface
Speaker 3: roots on them, so keep that in mind. Also, deeper
Speaker 3: the tree would be golly swamp white oak. It sounds
Speaker 3: like plenty of well, I would want to plant a
Speaker 3: swamp we just called that. And they're really deeply rooted,
Speaker 3: and there's some some of the oaks are very deeper
Speaker 3: to too. I don't want to wait forever if I
Speaker 3: actually they grow faster than everything. Okay, So, and the
Speaker 3: red maples, the varieties of red maples, they're semi shallow rooted.
Speaker 3: I have a two in my front yard and yeah
Speaker 3: there's a couple of nipples above the ground, but it's
Speaker 3: not that bad.
Speaker 1: But a silver maple, know, they're a mess. So you're
Speaker 1: get points for tidiness.
Speaker 3: Yes, so just just kind of be careful where it's planted.
Speaker 3: And another thing you gotta watch out or buried utility
Speaker 3: as water lines and steward lines and so on, so
Speaker 3: if something should go wrong and be able to access
Speaker 3: it without damaging the true So don't you've got your
Speaker 3: water meter out here in the house over there. Typically
Speaker 3: the water meter line goes straight into the house, and
Speaker 3: a lot of builders actually put a faucet in the
Speaker 3: house where the water line comes in and that might
Speaker 3: be a clear indicator as to where.
Speaker 1: The water line is in the house. So keep that
Speaker 1: in mind. Also little water line keeping.
Speaker 3: And there are some some of the older houses they
Speaker 3: have iron water pipes and they're.
Speaker 1: Starting to rest here and there.
Speaker 3: Oh that's gonna be We we had a sprinker system.
Speaker 1: They're too far from the nursery.
Speaker 3: We did one downtown and in our digging, uh, we
Speaker 3: found the water line didn't break it, but it's all rusty,
Speaker 3: not good. I had to replace it. And I know
Speaker 3: in two instances in the last few years where doing
Speaker 3: all work we had to we advised the the customer
Speaker 3: to get a plumber out to live with this, and
Speaker 3: they replaced the water main coming into the house if
Speaker 3: it is iron, because they the iron pipe just doesn't
Speaker 3: last forever.
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't a little oxidation and next thing you know,
Speaker 2: that life cycle.
Speaker 3: Is yeah, and then then if you plant a tree
Speaker 3: over that and five years later you get an underground
Speaker 3: water lake, Well the tree is gonna grow like crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, spinning, but there's nothing well it's going on there.
Speaker 3: So uh so make sure that your utility lines are
Speaker 3: clear and have them marked. I know they won't marked
Speaker 3: the waterline going into the house, but keep in mind
Speaker 3: the waterlines for the most part of perpendicular to the
Speaker 3: street into the house.
Speaker 2: You know what I've noticed, the ground is so hard.
Speaker 2: Those guys that come out and kind of flag your yard.
Speaker 2: When they throw those little flags down, they normally just
Speaker 2: stick right in the well.
Speaker 1: They're bouncing back and the.
Speaker 2: Guys are wearing goggles because they don't them comebackers are
Speaker 2: getting kind of home, just letting you know.
Speaker 1: They bring a drill to drill.
Speaker 3: So it's uh, that's one thing I want to mention
Speaker 3: is the location of the tree. And then trees that
Speaker 3: they can function.
Speaker 1: They can act as a screen.
Speaker 3: They can, for instance, had Victorian monstrosity the built behind
Speaker 3: your house. Plants something that screens that off a little bit,
Speaker 3: gives you some privacy.
Speaker 2: And someone, I mean, I don't have to look at
Speaker 2: the monsters if you.
Speaker 1: Well, when we moved into our house.
Speaker 3: Golly, twenty years ago, we had a very clear sight
Speaker 3: of the neighbor's house and we knew what brand of
Speaker 3: sausages they cooked in the morning.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, it's that close. Now you can't see it.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 3: We put in holly plants and cherry laurels and a
Speaker 3: deciduous holly which is absolutely gorgeous of the winter, and
Speaker 3: you can't see the house anymore. Screened it off. Good,
Speaker 3: it's the buffer zone. Not quite as white as this room.
Speaker 1: For that's still but then it works. Then I was
Speaker 1: digging a hole in the ground and clunk.
Speaker 3: Have a difficult time putting in plant pancies even Oh wow,
Speaker 3: so I've built some raised beds. Oh yeah, burned it
Speaker 3: up a little bit and everything's fine. Get a whole
Speaker 3: new source of moisture there. So yeah, so you can't.
Speaker 3: And there are different species of plants that don't get
Speaker 3: so big that actors good screen plants.
Speaker 1: Name a few. The burning bush is one, it's pretty too, yeah,
Speaker 1: and New R.
Speaker 3: Stevens holly, yeah, is one, and the foster holly gets
Speaker 3: rather large, but it does make a good screen plant.
Speaker 3: Yopan holly's and deciduous holley. I use those lot for
Speaker 3: screen plants and so on.
Speaker 1: And actually I have a Japanese.
Speaker 3: Maple that there's also used as the screen. Just a
Speaker 3: different composition of different plants. It's not just a row
Speaker 3: of stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mean you got a you've got a nice
Speaker 1: little palette.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the composition and then the edge of it goes
Speaker 3: in and out a little bit, so it's not just
Speaker 3: a straight line.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of interesting. What are your yards always
Speaker 1: on the tour?
Speaker 10: This?
Speaker 1: You got stuff in it?
Speaker 3: And there's a rather noisy waterfall in it too, well,
Speaker 3: not very big, it's just that's so big.
Speaker 2: Hey, did they come and hassle you when we were
Speaker 2: in a drought because you had a waterfall?
Speaker 1: No? I didn't think really. The water staste in it
Speaker 1: is recycled in it.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, so make sure you didn't get that
Speaker 2: big old plastic citations now, No, okay, it's good.
Speaker 1: And now I'm resting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got a rather ugly yellow yard right now.
Speaker 1: Mind turning into a blond as well.
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Speaker 2: four minute time out. Is that for a minute?
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Speaker 2: And welcome back to the Green Country Gardner program. We're
Speaker 2: playing our upa music and you know in the hot
Speaker 2: October fast and everything else like that. You know that
Speaker 2: is the German version of Sweet Home, Alabama.
Speaker 1: Only sweet Home doosel door well, it could be.
Speaker 3: Trade the week is the weeping effectum Japanese maple.
Speaker 1: This is a very popular plan.
Speaker 3: Use a lot by the front door, bravs into the
Speaker 3: house and it gives about six feet toll and wide,
Speaker 3: and eventually it's an excellent and prize specimen in the landscape.
Speaker 3: It prefers parts son and good drainage, good soil, fertility
Speaker 3: and frequent proper watering is the key to success on
Speaker 3: this one. Colors are from green to maroon, and color
Speaker 3: good excellent spring and fall color. And most people find
Speaker 3: this one too closed to the house. Give it lots
Speaker 3: the room. I like to plant it five feet away
Speaker 3: from the sidewalk when you first get it. And these
Speaker 3: little things when we see like be all lonely and
Speaker 3: buy itself out there.
Speaker 1: But eventually it.
Speaker 3: Will grow if it gets this wide, because you know
Speaker 3: six feet you get up to eight feet wide depending
Speaker 3: on the situation. So five feet away from a structure
Speaker 3: or like that.
Speaker 1: Will be fine.
Speaker 3: Now you can plant other things around it, like some
Speaker 3: annuals and perennials, or even use some boulders around it
Speaker 3: to kind of tie in to the landscape a little bit,
Speaker 3: and it can look when it's shunk, it looked pretty cool.
Speaker 1: And as it grows it can kind of move yourself
Speaker 1: a little bit there you go. But give it, give
Speaker 1: it some room, as so many people don't, and it's
Speaker 1: just packed in. They're so tight.
Speaker 3: When they get big, they don't they're not pretty anymore.
Speaker 3: So that's kind of why we want to give it
Speaker 3: some room to grow. And it does like good drainage,
Speaker 3: of course, and parts son parts son parts son parts
Speaker 3: son not necessarily mean the west side of the house
Speaker 3: is shielded for in the morning, but it's a good
Speaker 3: idea to have maybe some other trees around it or perraps,
Speaker 3: say the house on the other side, and.
Speaker 1: For planet on the east side of the house. It
Speaker 1: probably do very well. Okay.
Speaker 3: One problem that has in a lot of sun is
Speaker 3: not necessarily a disease or boards or any things, but
Speaker 3: it's sun scorch. And this happens in the winter when
Speaker 3: it's you know, about four hundred degrees below zero.
Speaker 1: We're talking, can you be raised effect this well it was.
Speaker 3: It's a heat issue, really, And what happens is the
Speaker 3: frozen stuff in there falls out real quick and it
Speaker 3: breaks the cellular tissues and the top half of the
Speaker 3: branch is dead, but the bottom half is alive.
Speaker 1: And it's called the scorch.
Speaker 3: And it's from a sudden temperature change. So, and that
Speaker 3: happens rather frequently.
Speaker 5: We have a.
Speaker 3: Right after a real cold night, the sun comes up
Speaker 3: in the morning and shines on.
Speaker 1: It and because of the sun scorts.
Speaker 3: So it's not necessarily what happens in the summer is
Speaker 3: what happens in the winter. And really if it gets
Speaker 3: too severe and really dammaged the slamp. So if a
Speaker 3: tree is properly watered, you know, not excessively, but properly
Speaker 3: well once a week or so, even in the winter time,
Speaker 3: if it's properly watered, it should resist the sunsquorts pretty well. Okay,
Speaker 3: So it's the excellent trees that have in the landscape.
Speaker 3: Don't plant it in the clay. They do like a
Speaker 3: really good soil. Do big preparation for this plant because
Speaker 3: they are expensive.
Speaker 1: You can spend it.
Speaker 3: You can spend it for three hundred and four hundred
Speaker 3: dollars for these plants. Yeah, and you just don't want
Speaker 3: to dump into the clay. You get the tailor out
Speaker 3: or even high it done to be planted just so
Speaker 3: we get a nice big.
Speaker 1: Hole so you can adapt real well to your soil.
Speaker 3: Lots of compost too, and it's very very important to
Speaker 3: keep your some molted in the winter to try to
Speaker 3: equalize the temperature and the moisture content and the soil.
Speaker 1: For it too.
Speaker 3: So with a few just very simple rules, you can
Speaker 3: have a really attractive aceer palmatum. Dissect them that too
Speaker 3: as a specimen interest plant. Now, if you let them
Speaker 3: go on their own, they look a bit like a mop.
Speaker 1: They just kind of everybody have the big names in
Speaker 1: the mop. Well you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks this weeping habit. So I like to
Speaker 3: trim it up a little bit so you can kind
Speaker 3: of see some of the branching structure in there, as
Speaker 3: well as having some of my branches on it too.
Speaker 3: So very careful pruning of it can make it really attractive.
Speaker 3: It's not just a mop. And when you travel on
Speaker 3: you don't just cut it like with shears. You take
Speaker 3: the branch that is too long and cut it back inside,
Speaker 3: effectively thinning it out a little bit.
Speaker 1: And you can do.
Speaker 3: That with some others so it doesn't look like it's
Speaker 3: just been sheared souse. That causes a lot of times
Speaker 3: the case of the uglies. And then you get this
Speaker 3: rather knobby licking growth at the tips and just yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's funny. The weeping Japanese maple. That's the tree of
Speaker 3: the week. It's related to the Japanese maple, which gets
Speaker 3: about twenty by twenty feet. And there are several color
Speaker 3: variations of this one too. A lot of them are grafted.
Speaker 3: They'll put a green jack maple rootstock on it, the
Speaker 3: Japanese maple rootstock green. And now then you'll get this
Speaker 3: little green thing coming up. They just want to cut
Speaker 3: that off, okay, so and then the Japanese upright, the
Speaker 3: regular fad, the blood good.
Speaker 1: Japanese map very popular one.
Speaker 3: Excellent color, good fall color spring emerges this brilliant reddish
Speaker 3: colored leaves in the spring, really nice and it gets.
Speaker 1: Rather large, so be careful.
Speaker 3: Also, I see a lot of them planted a foot
Speaker 3: away from the house.
Speaker 1: Oh, that'll be trouble in a couple of years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you want to compose your landscape to accommodate
Speaker 3: the proper size of the street, and also keep it
Speaker 3: away from the sidewalks because you'll be ducking down to
Speaker 3: get into the house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
Speaker 3: About a sidewalk about ten feet away in the house,
Speaker 3: about ten feet away should do. Okay, Okay, it looked
Speaker 3: lonely at first, he said, yeah, this thing is so
Speaker 3: far away from the house to do well.
Speaker 1: In about four or five years.
Speaker 2: It'll start like girl, and you'll say, you see the tree,
Speaker 2: how big it's grown, you know exactly.
Speaker 3: And it'll grow and it'll grow into the the landscape composition.
Speaker 3: So you've got to kind of look at that. And
Speaker 3: that's the one thing we do is on the landscape plane,
Speaker 3: is we do so what it would look like where
Speaker 3: it's planted in the house. And you don't never see
Speaker 3: me put the twenty foot white Japanese maple two feet
Speaker 3: away from that.
Speaker 1: No, No, it's.
Speaker 3: Not difficult if you do want something purple and kind
Speaker 3: of small. There's uh the barbary. The red barbery comes
Speaker 3: in into war Crimson, Pygmy and regular standard barberies. There's
Speaker 3: also nine bark. I've used some nine bark in the landscape.
Speaker 3: They're kind of interesting. They grow a little bit wild.
Speaker 3: In other words, they are somewhat untamed if you and
Speaker 3: they have kind of a semi weeping habit and then
Speaker 3: they have white flowers on them. They're kind of but
Speaker 3: the important thing is to keep after them and trim
Speaker 3: them back a little bit now and then they look
Speaker 3: really nice. But it doesn't have a smaller plant, you know.
Speaker 3: It doesn't have the overgrowth problems that say Japanese maple has,
Speaker 3: So if you really want something purple like that, you
Speaker 3: might consider an alternative species rather than the Japanese maple.
Speaker 3: There are also some crape myrtles that have purple leaves
Speaker 3: on them too, and the red flowers are really quite nice.
Speaker 3: So if you want something purple close to the house
Speaker 3: in the sun, you might consider maybe a nine bark
Speaker 3: or a crimson barberry, which has thorns on it.
Speaker 1: But they're not that bad. Of course, I'm old and tough.
Speaker 1: I guess they don't just reach in there and grab them,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: And the red leaked crape myrtle, there are a lot
Speaker 3: of varieties out there. They have red leaves on them,
Speaker 3: purple really kind of purple leaves really so you can
Speaker 3: have that leaf color without having to get.
Speaker 1: Something to get twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good option. We're gonna have to take
Speaker 2: a break. We'll be right back after this two minute
Speaker 2: time out.
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Speaker 2: it's our Octoberfest music right here on Green Country Gardener
Speaker 2: Program Special feature October only because that's when it's festive October.
Speaker 2: What ain't Heveren seven four ninety three six. That is
Speaker 2: our total free number to get a hold of blurry
Speaker 2: Glass or expert Larry.
Speaker 1: What do we have next on the agenda?
Speaker 3: Well, the homemybirds and marnocks are migrating or half migrated
Speaker 3: at this point. We don't notice very many of them
Speaker 3: in our backyard now, so I think they're heading on
Speaker 3: the south.
Speaker 1: You got a few stragglers. Oh yeah, they're like, I'm
Speaker 1: not packed yet.
Speaker 3: They're not attacking my lantana's anymore. Oh so I guess
Speaker 3: they're they're they're kind of flown away. But at this point
Speaker 3: in time, they know when to go and they will
Speaker 3: abandon the feeders at the right time. So you might
Speaker 3: want to pick up some some of migrating birds from
Speaker 3: northern place or whatever.
Speaker 1: I want to quit feeding them, That's what I want
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the third week in September, so plant Sabbia lantana, minarda, honeysuckle,
Speaker 3: Petunia penta, and other flowers for nexture, for these plants,
Speaker 3: for these birds fall. So that's kind of kind of
Speaker 3: the deal. With the homing birds. I think they're back
Speaker 3: going into monarchs. Well, see a few of them around,
Speaker 3: but for the most part they're they're heading head.
Speaker 5: And known down souths.
Speaker 1: They need a good north wind. I guess, Hey, Larry,
Speaker 1: have you seen any cicadas lately? No, I haven't seen
Speaker 1: the one. We've heard a few of them, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: of them around, but not so many of them.
Speaker 3: This is a phenomenon that apparently has occurred further east
Speaker 3: of us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, much further. I think it's because our grounds
Speaker 1: are hard. They just they just said, forget it, man
Speaker 1: it out.
Speaker 5: Of here, this whole.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: Now, I don't know, maybe their their cycle is offset
Speaker 3: perhaps over here over some others too.
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's nature. There's going to be regional differences.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I do you know that in like southern Illinois.
Speaker 2: It was getting loud with cicadas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, folks were complaining, Oh I could hear it tonight
Speaker 3: all the way from kro Oh yeah, Champagne or Banna
Speaker 3: sham banna all the way from Champagne, Illinois, or the cicadas.
Speaker 3: But anyway, so I don't people ask me have you
Speaker 3: seen the cicadas?
Speaker 1: As not very many.
Speaker 3: Somebody sent me a picture on the phone and said,
Speaker 3: what is this and he said it looks like I
Speaker 3: didn't have the glasses on. I thought it was mushrooms.
Speaker 3: Put glasses on it. Texted and back and for those
Speaker 3: are cata. So but we were always going to get some,
Speaker 3: but this year apparently we're in an off cycle. Next
Speaker 3: year they'll get ready, probably beating the labels off your popcins.
Speaker 3: So anyway, we talked about the difectum. Let's talk about
Speaker 3: our shoub of the week, and that's iliagonous. Sounds like
Speaker 3: as cousin, sounds like the sitcom from the sixties, Yeah,
Speaker 3: i Agnus and Gustafolio. The iliagonous uh is a rapid
Speaker 3: growing shrub used parm primarily for screens and hedges, also
Speaker 3: called fragrant tli. It's a very strong sweet smell to
Speaker 3: it in the in the string when it blooms. So
Speaker 3: it's it's a This is this very aggressive growing plant
Speaker 3: and it gets rather tall. And I tell people if
Speaker 3: they want, if you want to one is a hedgerow.
Speaker 3: We'll just leave the hedge clippers outside. You'll have to
Speaker 3: trim it again everyday. Yeah, this plant room. It's a
Speaker 3: very good screen plant. I personally don't like this plant
Speaker 3: because it does kind of come up all over the place,
Speaker 3: and it does rather aggressive, and it takes up a lot
Speaker 3: of room. Really, and if you've got a lot of
Speaker 3: room and you want a screen plant, the illeagnous is
Speaker 3: a really tough plant.
Speaker 1: Doesn't have very many pests. Everything else too.
Speaker 3: Twelve feet wide and tall, it's evergreen, has very huge,
Speaker 3: few pests, but wash the boards. It can get necrosis
Speaker 3: on it as he gets older.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's not a long lasting plant. You probably
Speaker 1: get twenty.
Speaker 3: Years out of it, start to fall apart, kind of
Speaker 3: like Manhattan Wantamus. It's another screen plant you can use,
Speaker 3: but it does grow fairly aggressively. So if you do
Speaker 3: have something you want to block and something click, you
Speaker 3: might consider an illeagnius incidfolio there's a compact compact by
Speaker 3: the idea of that which shares the same attributes. But
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's big, but it really isn't.
Speaker 3: So it can be used also in that but for
Speaker 3: a low screen if you will. But keep this one
Speaker 3: away from from the house because it does get so
Speaker 3: large and it will become a nuisance over time. But
Speaker 3: if you've got something, if you really want to block
Speaker 3: the roadway or something on the end of your property,
Speaker 3: it'll be a good one for that. Okay, be prepared
Speaker 3: for the birds kind of like it too.
Speaker 1: They kind of hide it a little bit too.
Speaker 3: So anyway, house plants at the nursery, we have a
Speaker 3: greenhouse full of house plants right now, so you might
Speaker 3: check out our plants.
Speaker 1: House plants tropical, tropical, tropical. So okay, let's see.
Speaker 3: We talked about lawns, talk about trees, a little bit
Speaker 3: about shrubs, annuals. It is possible to have color all
Speaker 3: year along with the proper planting of annuals. In other words,
Speaker 3: say you've got a whole bunch of really nice pair
Speaker 3: of winkles and you want to plant some pansies, Well,
Speaker 3: don't take all the pair of winkles out.
Speaker 1: Just take some of them out to put some panties in.
Speaker 3: Between, and then when we have a freeze, there's still
Speaker 3: be time to plant some pansies or they will grow together.
Speaker 3: Kind of nice, but you might want to plant it
Speaker 3: out on your annual beds. I have a room for
Speaker 3: some fall type annuals in addition to the summer type
Speaker 3: angles as time goes on too. Okay, perennials repeat every year,
Speaker 3: but bloom only at certain times. So keep in mind
Speaker 3: when you're picking up perennials. The timetable windows is bloom.
Speaker 3: Do we want to plant something next fit the blooms?
Speaker 3: Maybe a month later, something move later, a month earlier
Speaker 3: or whatever, so you can get a constant show.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now, the scabiosa plant is a perennial that or yeah,
Speaker 3: that blooms all summer long. And the bloom flower platygoldens
Speaker 3: they bloom about all summer long too. But most of
Speaker 3: your perennials simply just don't bloom the entire summer long.
Speaker 3: So you want to plan your your perennial beds not
Speaker 3: only a vertical but also on the fourth dimension.
Speaker 1: Okay, when they're going to be interesting, cone flowers.
Speaker 3: There is another one. They had a fairly long bloom period.
Speaker 3: But uh, it's finite, like a lot of your perennials
Speaker 3: are too. So consider that when doing a perennial bed
Speaker 3: or picking up some perennials, which one is going to
Speaker 3: be blooming when and what kind of colors show they're
Speaker 3: going to have. You might even have room in there
Speaker 3: for some annuals to bridge the gaps and colors on
Speaker 3: pernials too.
Speaker 1: There you go, it's good thinking.
Speaker 3: The perennial antenna is another one bloom for a long time.
Speaker 1: How many birds and butterflies really like it? Right? So
Speaker 1: you know what, get a professionals look at it. That's
Speaker 1: something that you do.
Speaker 2: You got that handy dandy little piece of machinery that
Speaker 2: you use along with that big old noggin of yours,
Speaker 2: that college of knowledge that you can actually put something
Speaker 2: on somebody's a texto grammar or something like that, or email.
Speaker 3: I send out that, even even in on this phone
Speaker 3: thing here, I send out a lot of texts on
Speaker 3: some designs.
Speaker 1: And people say, wow, my house, my yard can look
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: I have a well, I can convert a section or
Speaker 3: the entire plan to them to an image file and
Speaker 3: then bluetooth it to my cell phone and shoot it
Speaker 3: to them.
Speaker 1: They kind of like that, get it.
Speaker 3: I think texting is starting to take over email.
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, it is. It is. And I even send
Speaker 1: out invoices on the on the text. How do you
Speaker 1: like that?
Speaker 3: Well, they get it right away, they do. And a
Speaker 3: lot of times it's just okay, it's come right on
Speaker 3: and pay it. Yeah, whit around, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So much for that. People like to open the letters
Speaker 1: and keep it in their hands. I don't to hear that.
Speaker 3: It's just beeping on my phone during our conversation. I've
Speaker 3: gotten several text text messages.
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't say anything. We're going to take a
Speaker 2: quick break. We've got a four minute timeout.
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Speaker 15: the German Renaissance style, the hotel had four hundred and
Speaker 15: fifty guest rooms and another one hundred rooms for staff
Speaker 15: and servants. After merging with their next door neighbor, the
Speaker 15: Astoria Hotel, in eighteen ninety seven, the hotel had one thousand,
Speaker 15: three hundred rooms, making it the largest hotel in the
Speaker 15: world at the time. The Empire Room at the hotel
Speaker 15: was the largest and most lavishly decorated room in the
Speaker 15: Waldorf and quickly became one of the finest restaurants in
Speaker 15: New York City.
Speaker 5: From the beginning, the.
Speaker 15: Waldorf was the must stay place for foreign dignitaries from
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Speaker 15: of China, the Princess Iam, the Grand Duchess of Russia,
Speaker 15: and many others. Andrew Carnegie was a regular guest at
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Speaker 15: Barr became a favorite haunt from many of the financial
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Speaker 15: seen at the Waldorf. It truly was the world's hotel.
Speaker 15: Following the tragic sinking of the Titanic, the Waldorf Hotel
Speaker 15: was the official site for the inquiry that was performed
Speaker 15: by the United States Senate into the disaster. With this backdrop,
Speaker 15: our very own Frank Phillips was a major player at
Speaker 15: the Waldorf. In nineteen twenty nine, a private corporation was
Speaker 15: formed by Uncle Frank, and he became part owner of
Speaker 15: the Waldorf.
Speaker 1: Later that year, they sold the.
Speaker 15: Buildings and the land to a corporation named Empire State, Inc.
Speaker 15: Their plan was to demolish the hotel, which they did
Speaker 15: and build the Empire State Building in that location in
Speaker 15: July of nineteen twenty nine. Prior to the demolition, Frank
Speaker 15: Phillips inspected the hotel and paid particular attention to four
Speaker 15: handsome chandeliers which hung in the tap room of the hotel.
Speaker 15: When the hotel was gutted in preparation for the demolition,
Speaker 15: Frank was given those ornate lights. He promptly shipped them
Speaker 15: to Oklahoma and had them hung in the great living
Speaker 15: room of the Wollarock Lodge, where they illuminated family gatherings,
Speaker 15: business meetings, cocktail parties, poker games, and many other social events.
Speaker 15: Whenever asked by guests about the lights, Frank liked a
Speaker 15: joke and say they were all that he got out
Speaker 15: of his investment, calling them his million dollar chandeliers and
Speaker 15: declaring them the most expensive in the country. The Magic
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Speaker 15: the wonderful history of Wollarock. That same magic still exists.
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Speaker 1: Alrighty, there we go.
Speaker 2: October Fest is underway here at the Green Country Gardener
Speaker 2: Program and your calls are welcome. One one hundred and
Speaker 2: seven six Larry Classes are expert.
Speaker 1: Which the roses the cooler weather.
Speaker 3: I think this week you're calling person, You guys are
Speaker 3: going to finally let it cool down a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna get down to about fifty nine tonight,
Speaker 2: forty four tomorrow night and mid.
Speaker 3: Forties yeah, and in the eighties. Yeah, let's gonna get
Speaker 3: the seventies. Come on, well, that would be November.
Speaker 1: The electric Company's eleven. Oh you put how are they anyway? Roses?
Speaker 3: The cooler weather will make somewhat of a comeback on
Speaker 3: the roses. Let's us spread too, less fungus problems and
Speaker 3: so on with roses. Also, most people have a knockout.
Speaker 1: Roses or some derivative thereof.
Speaker 3: And actually, what I like to do with my knockouts
Speaker 3: is cut them back after they had their big bloom
Speaker 3: thing in the in the spring and you know, throughout
Speaker 3: the midsummer, give them a good cutback, and in the
Speaker 3: fall they really come back nicely.
Speaker 1: Just some time for them to bloomer and I feed
Speaker 1: and Thanksgiving they're really coming back yet.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, give mayorkat. But the knockouts a little different
Speaker 3: than other roses. It's it's not a grafted rose. It's
Speaker 3: true to form from top to bottom. And they they're
Speaker 3: very tough, very tough plants. Yeah, I think the rosette
Speaker 3: disease has kind of come and gone.
Speaker 1: I don't see very much of it anymore. It sure
Speaker 1: twisted them up pretty good. Yeah, I did.
Speaker 3: We do have a few knockouts at the nursery, and
Speaker 3: they're they're kind of slow sellers right now, but I
Speaker 3: think they'll people get back.
Speaker 1: Into it when when the said epidemic is over with. Yeah. Anyway,
Speaker 1: keep your shovel sharp, come out the nursery and see
Speaker 1: what we got and see what's new.
Speaker 3: We had all kinds of cool stuff for look yet
Speaker 3: and golly Tom times up.
Speaker 1: Keep that shovel sharp. We will see you next week.
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