1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,759 Speaker 1: H so good no easy way Out. You might have 2 00:00:03,839 --> 00:00:06,719 heard that song before. A gentleman named Robert Tepper had 3 00:00:06,719 --> 00:00:09,119 to hit with that in the in the eighties. But 4 00:00:09,199 --> 00:00:11,080 that is Dead by Wednesday and that is a brand 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,400 new single and we're spinning it here. And we have 6 00:00:14,679 --> 00:00:16,760 two of the members from Dead by Wednesday here with 7 00:00:16,839 --> 00:00:19,679 us live in studio. We've got Mike and Esteban here. 8 00:00:19,679 --> 00:00:24,039 How are you, guys? That damn Hartford Marathon delayed you guys, 9 00:00:24,039 --> 00:00:26,399 but I'm glad you made it because. 10 00:00:26,199 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: We at the highway. I was like, oh my god, wrong. 11 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,679 Speaker 1: I was gonna I was gonna play the song regardless, 12 00:00:31,679 --> 00:00:33,240 like if if you if for some reason you didn't 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,640 get here I was just gonna play it anyway at 14 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,359 the end of the day. But no, that's that's really 15 00:00:36,359 --> 00:00:39,880 really good now. Mike, So we were talking when you 16 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,560 were in the other So you're an original member, You've 17 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,880 you've been here the whole time. How long when did 18 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:44,960 Dead by Wednesday start? 19 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:46,359 Speaker 2: Probably? 20 00:00:46,799 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: Oh, pull pull up, pull up, Mike up. Sorry, sorry, 21 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,600 those Mike's are probably there. 22 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: You go. 23 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: Okay, So wow, I think Opus and I met probably 24 00:01:01,079 --> 00:01:06,079 late three. The idea conjured up around oh four and 25 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,079 made it official two thousand and five. 26 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I thought it had been about twenty years. 27 00:01:11,159 --> 00:01:14,719 Yeah wow wow, yeah, gone in the blink of an eye, right, 28 00:01:14,719 --> 00:01:16,760 it goes, it goes quicker than we then we know 29 00:01:18,079 --> 00:01:20,400 that is true. And Esteban, how long have you been 30 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:20,760 in the band? 31 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,239 Speaker 2: Now? This January will be five years? Five years, five 32 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,000 years already, Mike, Yeah, I know. Wow. 33 00:01:25,439 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: Does it seem longer to you or does it seem 34 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:28,640 quicker like like that? 35 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 36 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, in a way, it seems longer, but then when 37 00:01:31,599 --> 00:01:33,400 you think back at it, you're just like it went 38 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,000 by super fast. 39 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt. What went into the decision to 40 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,239 cover this song? It's it's not I don't think I've 41 00:01:41,239 --> 00:01:44,560 ever heard anyone cover No Easy Way Out, but it's 42 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,760 but I was, I always like the song as catchy 43 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,159 as hell, and it's it sounds great, like why did 44 00:01:49,159 --> 00:01:50,359 you guys pick that song? 45 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: You wanta ticket? Uh? So Opus is a big like 46 00:01:55,239 --> 00:01:59,280 uh karate Kid and rocky fan, and I mean who 47 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:00,400 doesn't like rock? Right? 48 00:02:00,519 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: Right? 49 00:02:00,879 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? So yeah, it was I think it originated with 50 00:02:06,439 --> 00:02:10,080 Opus and Dave. Well how did it come about? 51 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: It was Opus presented the idea and usually I say that, 52 00:02:19,199 --> 00:02:22,840 but I do recall when I when I watched Rocky 53 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,800 four as a kid, I heard that song and I 54 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,840 was like, wow, I bet this song could take off 55 00:02:31,199 --> 00:02:35,360 like the previous, like Eye of the Tiger. The previous, 56 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,719 like the Rocky series, always had a hit single. Yes, 57 00:02:40,439 --> 00:02:43,639 So I was like, Okay, this will probably it and 58 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,919 it never. It just kind of fizzled out. So when 59 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,280 he presented the idea, I was like possibly, And then 60 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,919 we just kind of toyed around with it and he 61 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,960 kept pushing it. It's like, hey, you know, try it, 62 00:02:58,039 --> 00:03:00,759 listen to it. So he kept pushing it and it 63 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,280 just morphed, you know. 64 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: Well then we jammed it that one time in the 65 00:03:05,439 --> 00:03:07,280 space and then we were just like, oh it kind 66 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:08,439 of really good. Yeah. 67 00:03:08,479 --> 00:03:12,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's excellent, And it's already getting played like 68 00:03:12,879 --> 00:03:13,800 on Serious X. 69 00:03:14,159 --> 00:03:17,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually been playing there, I think since, uh 70 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,960 it's been a week, third or seventh something that's I 71 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,960 know it's been a week, yeah, at least a week. 72 00:03:24,159 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent. I assume this is part of the live set. 73 00:03:26,599 --> 00:03:27,479 Now you guys playing this. 74 00:03:27,479 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: Live, we are going to introduce it into the set, 75 00:03:30,599 --> 00:03:32,159 uh in two weeks. 76 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,599 Speaker 1: Nice swarmy fest yeah, yeah, excellent, excellent. Yeah, looking forward 77 00:03:36,639 --> 00:03:38,560 to Swarmy Fest and seeing you guys. It's been a 78 00:03:38,599 --> 00:03:41,319 long time since I've seen you guys live, so really 79 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:42,240 looking forward to this. 80 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's what we The last time we were on 81 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:45,879 stage was May. 82 00:03:46,319 --> 00:03:51,719 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, June. June, Yeah, June too, June. Yeah. Yeah. 83 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,199 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's been a minute for us. 84 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And then now you've got a big in 85 00:03:56,599 --> 00:03:58,840 uh well next year, right, there's a big tour. 86 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to tour that's happening in January. Uh, 87 00:04:03,159 --> 00:04:08,560 starting January seventh in Brooklyn and then ending January twelfth, 88 00:04:08,599 --> 00:04:11,120 I believe in Albany. And we're running with Skin Lab. 89 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: Oh very good, Yeah, very good. Have you toured with 90 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:14,000 them before? 91 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: No, No, it's exciting. It's the first time. I mean, 92 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:18,279 we we've hung out with some of those dudes, like 93 00:04:18,319 --> 00:04:21,120 out in California, out in Nam, but this is our 94 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,120 first time actually jamming with them, so yeah, pretty excited. 95 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 96 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,199 Speaker 3: So then we've got another run in March with Category 97 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:34,279 seven that is the new supergroup. I know John Bush 98 00:04:34,439 --> 00:04:40,120 is the vocalist. Oh, it's like who's who of I'm 99 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,040 trying to pull up the members, but Jason Bittner is 100 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:49,560 Jason Bittner's on drums, John Bush on vocals, and then. 101 00:04:48,399 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: They're going to former member of Exodus. 102 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 3: I believe. So yeah, it's a it's a great lineup. 103 00:04:54,079 --> 00:04:57,959 We're doing a few shows in March supporting their tour 104 00:04:58,759 --> 00:05:02,199 with them in ex order exorder Okay, someone who else? 105 00:05:03,399 --> 00:05:06,879 Exorder end of the Tribe, had of the Tribe category seven? 106 00:05:06,959 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, very good, very good. I'm curious, Mike, because 107 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,319 you've been you've been there with Opus from the beginning. 108 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,000 Has the has the approach changed all over the years 109 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,160 in terms of the of the live show or even 110 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,720 even recording. Uh, like you like you said, you know, 111 00:05:22,759 --> 00:05:24,279 with no easy way out. He had to kind of 112 00:05:24,319 --> 00:05:26,160 talk you into it. Like has that has that process 113 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,680 changed over the years over twenty. 114 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 3: Years or not really? I mean you're going to have 115 00:05:31,639 --> 00:05:37,279 some you know, as members change, you're I don't know, ideology, 116 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:43,240 your approach to writing and performing changes, but again it 117 00:05:43,319 --> 00:05:46,879 kind of evolves. So you know, at the end of 118 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,560 the day, you're three guys, four guys working together. So 119 00:05:52,319 --> 00:05:55,040 once you can gel, once you can communicate and get 120 00:05:55,079 --> 00:06:00,199 along the music part, the composition and the creativity and 121 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,240 all that it's not that hard, right? 122 00:06:02,439 --> 00:06:02,639 Speaker 2: Right? 123 00:06:04,199 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it challenging when you know, because you 124 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,680 and Opus have been like I said, from there from 125 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,040 the beginning, the core of it, like having all these 126 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,319 changes over the years, is there ever a point where 127 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,360 you go, well, you know, we've we've had we've had 128 00:06:17,399 --> 00:06:19,920 a lot of changes, and you know, I don't know 129 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,399 if we can keep doing this. I mean, do you 130 00:06:21,639 --> 00:06:23,800 ever kind of second guess at or are you just 131 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:24,439 so committed to it? 132 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: I think the. 133 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:32,759 Speaker 3: Maybe the last two we're like, oh man, because we 134 00:06:33,079 --> 00:06:39,360 had written material, we had another album, like we had 135 00:06:39,439 --> 00:06:42,519 we had the timeline laid out for a year, We 136 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,399 had like six songs in the camp like we were 137 00:06:45,439 --> 00:06:48,759 on a roll. And then when you have these lineup changes, 138 00:06:49,319 --> 00:06:52,000 then it's like, okay, well you can't use this song 139 00:06:52,079 --> 00:06:55,399 because you know, once you throw all that stuff into 140 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,639 the mix, then it's like turmoil and then you gotta 141 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,199 so the last one of those it's like, man, you 142 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:05,959 know that's tough, because but again, when the right personnel 143 00:07:06,079 --> 00:07:11,519 is in play, then you know it you rebound quicker. 144 00:07:11,639 --> 00:07:15,639 But yeah, it can be you know you're building something 145 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,160 then all of a sudden just rpe. 146 00:07:18,439 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: Sorry, Yeah, yeah, and then it's like again that was again, Yeah, yeah, 147 00:07:23,839 --> 00:07:26,959 absolutely yeah. So Estemon, how did you come to be 148 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,839 in the band? How did you become the singer? 149 00:07:29,519 --> 00:07:34,399 Speaker 2: So it was right before Covid I believe January of 150 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,480 twenty twenty. The band had gotten a call we were 151 00:07:38,519 --> 00:07:41,560 going to go on a thirty day tour and yeah, 152 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,399 it was like four. It was a four or six 153 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:44,279 weeks it was. 154 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,399 Speaker 3: I think it was slated for six, but realistically there 155 00:07:49,439 --> 00:07:51,079 was no way it was going to be six. I 156 00:07:51,639 --> 00:07:53,839 didn't buy into that, but I think we had at 157 00:07:53,879 --> 00:07:56,519 least a solid at least three or four. 158 00:07:56,839 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, it was, it was long. I knew 159 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,680 we had to take like a a week and a 160 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,319 half off because they had to break into Canada and 161 00:08:03,399 --> 00:08:06,120 another band was going to hook up, but it was 162 00:08:08,879 --> 00:08:12,120 the band had gotten Slater for that and the vocalist 163 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,480 before me had just picked up a new career. 164 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:16,399 Speaker 1: Oh. 165 00:08:16,439 --> 00:08:18,519 Speaker 2: So it was like one of those things of like, uh, 166 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,000 what do I do? Do I go on tour? Pass 167 00:08:21,079 --> 00:08:23,439 up the opportunity? So I mean no, he I mean 168 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,439 anybody would have taken the opportunity. He did, so Yeah, 169 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,519 And at that point I was with another band a 170 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,759 smaller local band, and Opus had given me a call 171 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,320 and he was just like, hey, come down an audition, 172 00:08:36,039 --> 00:08:38,679 and uh, I think what was it like to three 173 00:08:38,759 --> 00:08:41,759 days later? I came down and auditioned, and then like 174 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,679 h three days after that, I got the call and 175 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,919 they were just like, hey, come aboard. Yeah, if you 176 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,600 want to come on this tour, I'm like sweet, request 177 00:08:50,639 --> 00:08:52,639 the time off of work and everything, and then done. 178 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:53,159 Dun dun. 179 00:08:54,159 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: Yeah when you auditioned, did you know why did you 180 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,679 get because sometimes you know, guys will say, you know, 181 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,600 I auditioned for the span and I just knew it 182 00:09:02,639 --> 00:09:05,600 felt right, like did you did you know it? 183 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: Or for me if it felt really good as soon 184 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,960 as I got there, like just the energy when we 185 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,279 when we jammed and everything it was it felt right. 186 00:09:14,919 --> 00:09:15,799 Yeah fucko. 187 00:09:16,039 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you know Mike right off the bat that 188 00:09:18,279 --> 00:09:18,919 he was the guy? 189 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:19,799 Speaker 2: Yeah? 190 00:09:19,919 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I know you got he's sitting right 191 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,480 next to on the spot. 192 00:09:25,799 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 3: You know, I remember, I don't remember I remember feeling 193 00:09:29,639 --> 00:09:32,639 like all right, this is like a seamless transition. Yeah, 194 00:09:32,759 --> 00:09:35,960 like I don't remember any like, uh, I don't know, yeah, 195 00:09:36,159 --> 00:09:40,480 like we clicked like that. Yeah, yeah, and. 196 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: That's nice when that happens too, when you can have 197 00:09:42,159 --> 00:09:43,919 a seam you know, because I've been in bands, not 198 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,399 at the level that you guys are at, but I 199 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,440 know like when this changes and it's like you know, 200 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,240 when someone new comes in and they're just the right 201 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,000 person right away, it's like, oh, thank god, you know 202 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:53,799 this is gonna. 203 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,279 Speaker 3: Be easier than And prior to him, we had a 204 00:09:57,279 --> 00:10:00,200 couple auditions. We had some you know, and like you 205 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,320 within the first two minutes they're like, all right, I'll 206 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,360 give the guy the benefit of the doubt, and then 207 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,200 five minutes later you're like all right. 208 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: No, yeah, yeah, what like like when others would audition, 209 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,480 like what would be the prop? Like were they just 210 00:10:13,519 --> 00:10:15,559 not up to the the material. 211 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 3: Or we had well, we had one dude, Like I 212 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,200 want to say, I didn't hear I didn't hear what 213 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,879 he had done before. I think I knew he was 214 00:10:26,879 --> 00:10:28,679 in a band. They told me, all right, he's singing 215 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,120 in this band, and I think I heard a song. 216 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,759 I was like, Okay, sounds great. He comes in and 217 00:10:34,519 --> 00:10:38,200 I don't know, maybe he just doesn't audition well, but 218 00:10:38,399 --> 00:10:41,440 he was nervous. Is I don't know if I can 219 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,200 on this? He was nervous as anything. 220 00:10:45,399 --> 00:10:47,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and. 221 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: He to compensate for that, he had been drinking. So 222 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:58,279 he shows up like freaking about alcohol, nervous. Now that 223 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,080 combination you can't sing right, you know. And then it 224 00:11:02,159 --> 00:11:06,320 was like, look, guys like so we said, look, go home, 225 00:11:07,399 --> 00:11:08,600 let's try this again. 226 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: Oh it's nice of you to say let's yeah, yeah, 227 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:13,200 that's pretty generous. 228 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 3: He came back still, you know, better, but no, you know, 229 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,799 so we had like stuff like that, or people who 230 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,320 tell you they're going to come down and then they don't. Yeah, 231 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,519 you know, stuff like that. Usually the best I've found 232 00:11:27,639 --> 00:11:30,960 is through word of mouth or like bands who know 233 00:11:31,039 --> 00:11:34,720 other bands or approach other people. The way I met 234 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,840 Opus Site. I approached him and I was like, look, dude, 235 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,200 you and I should start a band. I never met him, 236 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:42,120 no kiddering. 237 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:42,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 238 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm a better bass player than the 239 00:11:45,759 --> 00:11:48,159 guy that you're playing with right now, and we need 240 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,519 to start a band. You know. So sometimes you got 241 00:11:52,519 --> 00:11:54,600 to just like, you know, talk to people. 242 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly exactly. Was that intimidating because he's an intense guy, 243 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,080 I think, I mean, from when I've met him, he's. 244 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,279 Speaker 3: I was at a point, yes, you're right, and it was. 245 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,399 But I was at a point at the time where 246 00:12:10,159 --> 00:12:14,679 I was looking for something serious and all the bands 247 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,720 that I auditioned for at the time they were not 248 00:12:17,279 --> 00:12:20,960 They weren't serious, they weren't on it, and he was yeah. 249 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,519 So I was like, you know, I've got I've got 250 00:12:25,519 --> 00:12:26,320 nothing to lose. 251 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly. Yeah, yeah, you got. 252 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: To take though, but yeah, you're right, Yeah, it's you know, 253 00:12:31,279 --> 00:12:35,039 he had a big mohawk, he said, so you know 254 00:12:36,279 --> 00:12:38,080 he you know, you know oaus everyone. 255 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:38,519 Speaker 2: Yeah. 256 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, it was like this, who is this guy? 257 00:12:42,399 --> 00:12:46,960 Larger than life like personality? But you know, but yeah 258 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:47,440 you are. 259 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:53,759 Speaker 1: You did you sban like other bands that you've played 260 00:12:53,799 --> 00:12:56,120 in were they similar in terms of the you know, 261 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,480 your vocal approach. You know, obviously it's it's intense, and 262 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,679 did you sing that way and other bands prior. 263 00:13:04,399 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 2: To this or yeah, I mean, my it was. I 264 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,759 think that was probably the I mean, it was still 265 00:13:13,799 --> 00:13:17,120 difficult to transition, but the easiest point of the transition 266 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,679 was the vocal style was still the same way. I 267 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,639 went from you know, scream singing to scream singing. Yeah, 268 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:26,039 so it was pretty accommodating in those terms. 269 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, it's fascinated by that by singers who can 270 00:13:28,919 --> 00:13:30,200 do that. Do you do you have to do anything 271 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,159 to kind of protect your throat, Like, do you do 272 00:13:33,159 --> 00:13:34,200 you have any kind of a regimen. 273 00:13:34,399 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just like any other vocalists, you have 274 00:13:36,799 --> 00:13:39,559 to you have to watch what you do, you know, 275 00:13:39,879 --> 00:13:43,759 prior and posts, you know, performances. You have to make 276 00:13:43,799 --> 00:13:46,840 sure you're hydrated, you know, tease things like that. I 277 00:13:46,919 --> 00:13:51,720 normally steam my face and my I take like the 278 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,519 normal vapo steamer use like when you're sick. So I 279 00:13:55,879 --> 00:13:59,000 use that and it's like an instant hydrated or my 280 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,919 voice and like these old passages and stuff. So I 281 00:14:02,039 --> 00:14:04,639 do that, and I normally drink some tea beforehand, I 282 00:14:04,759 --> 00:14:07,480 do some warm ups and then get into it, and 283 00:14:07,519 --> 00:14:10,200 then afterwards, I normally try to steam my voice, like 284 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,759 when we're on tour, especially, I try to steam my 285 00:14:12,759 --> 00:14:15,639 face before I go to sleep. Oh okay, sure, So. 286 00:14:15,639 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: If you do that before you go to sleep when 287 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:17,519 you wake up. 288 00:14:17,399 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: Your yeah, a little little bit, because I mean it 289 00:14:19,879 --> 00:14:23,279 all depends on the atmosphere of the club too, because 290 00:14:23,559 --> 00:14:26,639 they may be using steam machine fog machines. Like when 291 00:14:26,639 --> 00:14:28,960 we were in Europe, smoking was allowed in clubs. So 292 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,799 that was really that was man, Oh that was rough. 293 00:14:31,879 --> 00:14:33,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can imagine. Yeah. 294 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: The thing is we haven't been used to it here 295 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,360 in the US for twenty plus years. Right, going over there, 296 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,240 you're just like, oh, I forgot about that. 297 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: They stuck us in the back the smoking room as 298 00:14:44,919 --> 00:14:48,639 our right, keep your gear and all your cases and everything, 299 00:14:48,679 --> 00:14:51,679 and you can hang out here in the smoking room. 300 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 301 00:14:52,519 --> 00:14:58,159 Speaker 3: No, mentally maybe a window. Horrendous rutal. 302 00:14:58,279 --> 00:15:02,759 Speaker 2: I mean, no fault to them. Culturely culture the culture. 303 00:15:02,879 --> 00:15:06,440 We weren't prepared. Yeah, it's like, oh my god, I'm 304 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:07,000 gonna die. 305 00:15:09,559 --> 00:15:11,919 Speaker 1: By the way, where do you guys record? Does Opus? 306 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,320 Does he have a recording studio or. 307 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:19,279 Speaker 2: So he did? Depending Like during COVID, we were we were 308 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,600 all able to individually record on our own so we 309 00:15:22,639 --> 00:15:25,440 can be able to record tracks like at home. But 310 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,159 during COVID we did that, and then we still went 311 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,840 in a little bit and did some in studio stuff 312 00:15:31,879 --> 00:15:35,879 with Nikki bellmore with Dexter's lab down in Milford, Connecticut. 313 00:15:35,919 --> 00:15:39,080 Oh okay, yeah, and we worked with him and most 314 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,080 of the time we cut our tracks at home. 315 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:46,399 Speaker 3: O COVID it forced us to you know, utilize this 316 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,960 technology that was already there. But a lot of the 317 00:15:50,039 --> 00:15:54,039 tracks on our last album were done like I would 318 00:15:54,039 --> 00:15:59,039 record my base tracks on my computer, like while I 319 00:15:59,159 --> 00:16:01,559 was on the case to one by family or something, 320 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,120 and I'd send in bass tracks for a couple of songs. 321 00:16:06,279 --> 00:16:07,600 Did you record yours? 322 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, no, I mean I only recorded a few live, 323 00:16:11,639 --> 00:16:13,600 but most of the time I recorded them at home. 324 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: Dave did some tracks at home, yea. So we just 325 00:16:16,879 --> 00:16:20,360 sent him sent the stems to Nikki. He'd mixed them 326 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,039 together and that would be the track. But this last 327 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,399 one no easy weigh out. He and I recorded the 328 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,080 bass like I recorded at his place, okay, okay, and 329 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,039 then we sent at least for the bass, and then 330 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:34,720 we sent that in. 331 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:35,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. 332 00:16:35,399 --> 00:16:40,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, we've been It's like, I don't know, 333 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,120 there isn't really a There doesn't need to be a 334 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,200 central location for everything, you know. 335 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,279 Speaker 1: So it's amazing, isn't it to live in a time 336 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,519 where we have all these technology to do all this 337 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,240 stuff easy? You know? We It comes up a lot 338 00:16:52,279 --> 00:16:54,279 on the show too, about how you know, the pandemic 339 00:16:54,399 --> 00:16:56,919 was terrible, but you have to find these silver linings 340 00:16:56,919 --> 00:16:59,279 where you can and once big silver lining is I 341 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,120 did kind of force people, yeah, to be creative in 342 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,599 terms of how they do things and find ways to 343 00:17:05,599 --> 00:17:07,359 be creative they maybe hadn't considered before. 344 00:17:07,559 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 3: It created a new industry. You know, it's amazing, like 345 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,480 and people, unless you grew up in an era where 346 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,440 that was not possible. It's just to me, it's it's 347 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,799 crazy that I can record a track that can literally 348 00:17:21,799 --> 00:17:26,039 like no easy way out. Like when I was recording 349 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:29,319 it and when I was coming up with my base parts, 350 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,680 you're not thinking of that. You're thinking an end process, 351 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,799 but you're not thinking of But it's just crazy to 352 00:17:34,839 --> 00:17:38,759 me to record this in a house or a basement, 353 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:43,240 have it broadcast globally and sound pristine. 354 00:17:44,039 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 2: Mike and I have talked about that many times on tour. 355 00:17:46,839 --> 00:17:49,319 It's like, I love it. We have the ability to 356 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,440 be able to record anywhere we want. Back in the day, 357 00:17:52,519 --> 00:17:54,720 man the locks away or. 358 00:17:55,079 --> 00:17:58,759 Speaker 3: Like the big, big artists that could afford the equipment 359 00:17:58,799 --> 00:17:59,880 to you know. 360 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, having an in home studio was like a 361 00:18:03,079 --> 00:18:04,359 super privilege at that point. 362 00:18:04,519 --> 00:18:06,319 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, available to anyone. 363 00:18:06,519 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Oh the time goes quick. I wish 364 00:18:10,759 --> 00:18:13,359 we had more, but I want to make sure so 365 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:19,559 uh November two, it's the event is at Tafaa and Lowell. 366 00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:21,279 It was originally supposed to be a Jewel but for 367 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,119 anyone who doesn't know, it's at Taffa and loll Swarmy Fest. 368 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,240 Jenny and I will be there. Really looking forward to 369 00:18:27,279 --> 00:18:27,839 seeing you guys. 370 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,799 Speaker 2: I am so excited, yea, super excited. Yeah. 371 00:18:30,839 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: Absolutely, It's gonna be a bunch of great bands there. 372 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,599 What should people anything you want people to know about? 373 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,359 Obviously you want them to know that the new single 374 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,200 is out, your cover of No Easy Way Out? And 375 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,880 what should people know else about? 376 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 2: Uh? 377 00:18:45,079 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: About what you guys are doing? 378 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:47,759 Speaker 2: Wow? 379 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 3: Check us out on our our social media feeds. We've 380 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:57,079 got some shows coming up that the uh you got 381 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:57,640 a couple. 382 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,319 Speaker 2: Of tours coming yeah, yeah, the tours with skin Lab. 383 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:05,039 Speaker 3: The skin Lab, Yeah yeah, that's going to be a Northeast. 384 00:19:04,519 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 2: Show January seventh. 385 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 3: Northeast region in our final date is January twelfth. Is 386 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:11,519 that the one in Albany. 387 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 2: That's all one in Albany. We start in Brookland on 388 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:22,640 the seventh, We go Brooklyn, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Connecticut 389 00:19:22,759 --> 00:19:25,480 and then back up to Albany. So Hopefully listeners out 390 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,079 there can be able to link up with us at 391 00:19:27,079 --> 00:19:28,799 some point in one of those shows that I'd love 392 00:19:28,799 --> 00:19:29,759 to have you guys come out. 393 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent, excellent, and we'll close out with Wasteland and 394 00:19:34,519 --> 00:19:36,680 this you say you were saying off there too. This 395 00:19:36,839 --> 00:19:38,440 was this one an award or was nominated for. 396 00:19:38,559 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, we were actually we got nominated for two categories. 397 00:19:41,759 --> 00:19:44,359 We got nominated for New England Best Metal Band and 398 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,240 also Best Music Video in Wasteland. This is the one 399 00:19:48,279 --> 00:19:52,200 we filmed out in the Mojave Desert, California for Wasteland Weekend. 400 00:19:52,559 --> 00:19:55,599 Speaker 1: Oh the video is wild. It looks like that was it? 401 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,839 I mean, was that as big a production as it 402 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,720 looks like? I mean, it's like it's like watching a 403 00:19:59,759 --> 00:20:00,319 mini movie. 404 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 2: We were we had hooked up with another festival that 405 00:20:03,519 --> 00:20:08,200 was happening. We're playing that. Yeah, and yeah, our videographer 406 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,160 she you know, happened to be there. We got the 407 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,480 permissions and the rights to be able to film and wow, 408 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,799 everybody was with it, and it was kind of like 409 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,400 it was the last minute, spur of the moment thing 410 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,240 and everybody was on board. So we just ran with it. 411 00:20:21,319 --> 00:20:23,160 And oh that's good. It just it was a per 412 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,119 It was a happy accident. Yeah. 413 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's that's amazing. That's amazing, great job. Yeah, 414 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,200 I recommend people check it out the video for Wasteland. 415 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,319 All right, we gotta go, guys, Thank you so much. 416 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: Thanks so much again. Sorry for being a little bit late, 417 00:20:36,519 --> 00:20:39,039 but we love you guys, and check us out. 418 00:20:38,839 --> 00:20:41,079 Speaker 1: And we will see you on November two, Yes, at 419 00:20:41,319 --> 00:20:44,759 Tafia and lolat Swarmyfest. All right, very good, and uh, 420 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,400 if you miss any part of today's show, it'll be 421 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,880 up in just a little bit. But we will leave 422 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,400 you with this. Check this out. This is wasteland. This 423 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:52,480 is dead by Wednesday.