WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:02.879 Dirty hands means clean theology. 2 00:00:03.319 --> 00:00:04.519 Can you dig it? 3 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:06.160 What? What? What? What? 4 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:09.599 What is going on on my local guys and gals 5 00:00:09.640 --> 00:00:11.599 and long distance pals. 6 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:19.079 We are back, fast sing sing, I'll. 7 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:20.000 Step in and be ben. 8 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:21.440 We're back. 9 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:24.879 Whoa, I'm listening to y'all show. I know that's what 10 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:25.920 we're now. 11 00:00:26.239 --> 00:00:28.920 Brian, Brian, pull up one of them really deep voices 12 00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:30.679 on your on your box there and do what We're 13 00:00:30.719 --> 00:00:31.640 back for us. 14 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:40.200 And we can't inspired. 15 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:46.439 These voice loaded into that it's right there. 16 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:50.840 Fired well. 17 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:56.439 Today, I'm pretty excited. We got some some good friends 18 00:00:56.439 --> 00:01:00.200 of ours from the Vessels podcast with us today. We're 19 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:02.840 going to have kind of a good free flow discussion, 20 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:05.640 but I guarantee it's going to be a lot about faith, 21 00:01:05.719 --> 00:01:08.280 God and the world that we're living in right now. 22 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:13.439 But before we get going, we as always, we want 23 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:14.920 to jump in. We want to get a good prayer 24 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:17.040 ahead of time. I don't know, justin, are you feeling 25 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:17.560 up for it? 26 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:20.840 I think we should lie one of our guests, you know, 27 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:22.599 it would be only fitting. 28 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:26.159 I do like that. We got a volunteer man. 29 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:30.480 I'll jump in here. Father, I just thank you for 30 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:33.799 this time that we have all together and Lord, I 31 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:36.920 thank you for these two men from the Big Bible podcast, 32 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:40.120 Justin and Stephen. I thank you for what you've done 33 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:43.280 through their podcast. And my hope is that you'll continue 34 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:46.159 to do that and they'll continue to reach listeners. And Lord, 35 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:50.280 we just actually look over this episode. God got our hearts, 36 00:01:50.359 --> 00:01:53.760 got our minds, got our spirits, got our words. Lord 37 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:56.280 keep us patient with the distractions we've had going on, 38 00:01:57.040 --> 00:01:59.599 and Father, we just thank you for everything in Jesus name. 39 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:02.120 Amen, Amen, Amen. 40 00:02:03.760 --> 00:02:07.959 Well, like I said, these two gentlemen here are from 41 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:12.400 the Vessels podcast. Look it up. It's there's a big ship. 42 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:21.800 Pirate looking ship is the logo. Uh, it's driving me nuts. 43 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:24.800 But they got a it's a it's an awesome show. 44 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:30.080 These guys go into real life. They're very, very vulnerable. 45 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:33.000 In their show. They talk about things that are going 46 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:36.240 on in their lives, the things that are affecting them. 47 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:38.960 And and and to be honest that we've talked about 48 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:43.439 this before, but you know, we talk about witness and testimony. 49 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:48.280 Witness is seeing what God does in your life, and 50 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:52.360 testimony is showing other people, look, look, this is what 51 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:54.960 God did for me. And that's why our testimony is 52 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:58.080 so important, and these gentlemen on their podcast and it 53 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:02.719 is it is an excellent show. Really speak to that 54 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:06.759 and really really show, like I said, a very very 55 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:10.800 vulnerable side of themselves. And I know they're going to 56 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:12.800 help a lot of people out there, but I strongly 57 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:15.680 recommend you guys listening to them. It's it's an excellent show. 58 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:17.599 So thank you guys for coming on with us today. 59 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:20.639 Man, thanks for those kind words. 60 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:22.639 It's hard to have beef with somebody when they're just 61 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:24.280 like complimenting you so hard. 62 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:26.879 Man, Oh, we got beef. There's no doubt about it. 63 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:31.000 No, don't get it twisted, you know. Okay, all right, So. 64 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:34.000 I'm just telling you listen. I told Sean, where there's smoke, 65 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:35.199 there's fire, buddy, you. 66 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:39.840 Better okay, Okay. I love it. 67 00:03:39.879 --> 00:03:42.280 And the thing I love about your show honestly is, uh, 68 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:45.879 you know, it's like not just deep diving in scriptures. 69 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:49.759 It's just really just a real schmortgage board because you're 70 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:53.360 you're talking about scripture, but you're talking about moral lessons, 71 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:57.879 life lessons, and it's just a lot of good words 72 00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:00.840 of wisdom and camaraderie with the show, and you guys 73 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:04.280 have fun with it. And it's nice just to be 74 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:07.199 a fly on the wild to hear your guys' discussions 75 00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:11.560 and basically just life lessons and things that you're going 76 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:14.080 through and how it applies to the Bible and being 77 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:16.399 imagers of God. It it's just a really good show. 78 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:19.319 And and for those that don't know, these guys are 79 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:25.800 professionals that they record, make films and do audio and 80 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:28.160 stuff for a living. This is how they make their living. 81 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:31.360 So this thing is top notch as far as the 82 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:33.920 production goes. You guys do a really amazing job. 83 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:36.439 I appreciate that. Thank you. 84 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:40.079 Yeah, so I mean it. It is kind of hard 85 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:42.079 to have beef, but not really for me because I 86 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:43.959 got all these dogs going on. So I'm going to 87 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:47.000 channel all the frustrations from the background noises. I'm going 88 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:50.959 to dick room completely at Steven. Nobody else in here. 89 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:55.519 They're all going towards Steve here. But yeah, we appreciate it. Guys. 90 00:04:56.399 --> 00:05:00.399 You know, our show was kind of birth just from 91 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:04.560 we were having after church Sunday conversations. We've said it 92 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:06.800 a ton on our show, never on here, but Brian 93 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:11.959 and I became good friends through work. We met on 94 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:14.680 the set of a music video that he was shooting. 95 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:17.199 I was actually in the video. I was producing music 96 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:21.480 at the time. And we've just from day one made 97 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:24.879 all of our resources open for one another. And through that, 98 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:27.959 you know, I've been blessed to have Brian as a mentor, 99 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:30.800 as a friend, as a brother. He's been he's been 100 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:33.800 present in my life through a lot of the really 101 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:36.000 low lows, and he's helped me, you know, get back 102 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:39.720 up on my feet a million other times. And you know, 103 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:42.160 we were having these conversations anyway, we have all the 104 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:46.040 gear to do this, so we just kind of constructed 105 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:50.040 what is now The Vessels Podcast, And if anything, I 106 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:52.720 appreciate what you guys are saying, for sure, but it's 107 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:56.000 almost for me. It's it's like free therapy sessions that 108 00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:58.639 we have on our show. You know, it's like an 109 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:02.199 unlimited better Help subscription, you know, but it's with one 110 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:06.160 of my closest friends. Brian's always been somebody that's been 111 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:08.920 super honest with me when I couldn't be honest with myself. 112 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:11.120 And we try to keep the show that way too, 113 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:14.519 you know, for better or for worse or whatever it is. 114 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:16.759 You know, we don't want to hide behind any kind 115 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:19.800 of mask a lot of times in a Christian walk. 116 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:21.920 You know, there's a lot of people that hide behind, 117 00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:26.000 you know, the idea of that everything's just all good 118 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:28.000 all the time, or you know, something like that, and 119 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:30.120 that's just we know that's not the case. I mean, 120 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:32.079 all of us sit in here have our own trials, 121 00:06:32.120 --> 00:06:35.319 we have our own things that stand in opposition of us. 122 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:40.240 And you know, I've been doing some mentoring with our 123 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:43.519 pastor at our church, guys, and you know, one of 124 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:46.560 the best pieces of advice that I've ever heard anybody 125 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:48.680 give me is you can't preach what hasn't been preached 126 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:51.240 to you. You can't. You can't speak on things you 127 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:54.600 don't know. So you know, I'm glad that the show 128 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:58.759 resonates with outside listeners that same way, because yeah, we 129 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:00.399 just try to keep it one hundred percent saying. 130 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:05.560 Authentic absolutely and to jump in on that. You know, 131 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:11.240 I think that you you guys, were clearly a huge 132 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:15.160 inspiration for the set up, because I remember Sean mentioning 133 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:17.720 it all the time when we would have our after 134 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:21.079 church conversations. You know, He's like, man, they're trying to 135 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:23.759 do this, you know, trying to show them a little 136 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:26.000 bit how to go about this and editing, and then 137 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:29.959 you know, I know that it sparked that interest in Sean. 138 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:33.040 It was like, why are we doing that? Well, don't 139 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:34.959 we just go ahead and do that? Just I mean, 140 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:37.240 the only thing we weren't doing was turning on a 141 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:41.800 camera and hitting the record button. And yeah, I mean, 142 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:43.920 it's been an interesting thing. 143 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:44.519 You know. 144 00:07:44.600 --> 00:07:48.959 For the longest, I tried to avoid ownership of the podcast. 145 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:51.399 I'll keep it one hundred percent I did. I was like, 146 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:54.079 this is your show, my boy, you know, because I 147 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:56.680 was like, I'm not trying to edit. I ain't gonna 148 00:07:56.680 --> 00:07:57.920 do it. Bro, I ain't gonna do it. I got 149 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:01.000 the time, man. And and every time he'd be like, 150 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:02.240 I don't care what you say. 151 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:05.519 This is you too. I'm like, huh okay, I guess, 152 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:05.800 you know. 153 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:09.439 And then you know, just continuing on to the conversations 154 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:13.920 that we have to even you know, even having you 155 00:08:14.040 --> 00:08:16.959 on there, you know, Stephen to you know, eventually hopefully 156 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:19.800 having you directly on there too, Justin and everybody else, like, 157 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:25.720 just to have these conversations. It's so it is powerful 158 00:08:25.959 --> 00:08:29.360 because we may just be in the moment discussing things, 159 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:34.039 and it's therapeutic for us, but we don't. We don't 160 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:36.840 even sometimes consider how it can be so much more 161 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:40.159 for someone else. Right, And like even with y'all for 162 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:43.960 your show, man, like I love the deep dives, I 163 00:08:44.039 --> 00:08:47.039 do like to the different topics of every like I mean, 164 00:08:47.559 --> 00:08:50.679 you you go on that YouTube page of theirs, you 165 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:53.159 look at all the different things that they're covering board. 166 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:56.480 It's a little bit of everything, you know, And I 167 00:08:56.519 --> 00:09:00.600 love that aspect of it because I mean, how many 168 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:04.240 things have we all been curious about the Bible? From 169 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:08.440 all the stories, from all the things that are out there, man, 170 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:10.480 and from all the guests that you guys have had 171 00:09:10.559 --> 00:09:13.679 on that show too. Man, it's incredible. But now you 172 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:19.039 guys are very much a big inspiration. I appreciate anytime 173 00:09:19.080 --> 00:09:21.480 as I see if we said too, like we're having 174 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:26.440 church on here, right, we are all the pastors on 175 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:28.799 here too. And I love that aspect when you brought 176 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:34.399 that to me, like, Okay, I'm listening. I like it. 177 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:36.840 It's good to have this, man, and it should be 178 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:40.200 more common. And hopefully we keep instelling that all of 179 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:43.519 us keeping stealing that for more and more people, because 180 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:47.720 we need more discussions about God, We need more conversations 181 00:09:47.799 --> 00:09:50.159 like this because there's too much mess out there. Otherwise, 182 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:53.120 it's easy to get distracted in this world. So we 183 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:56.840 need the right word being discussed, renewing our minds daily. 184 00:09:56.919 --> 00:10:03.840 Right absolutely, there goes, don't know, go ahead, go ahead. 185 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:06.440 Oh, I was just gonna say for those that don't 186 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:10.840 know that that has followed us for a while. Sean 187 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:14.120 was the man that got us into video because we 188 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:18.120 were just strictly audio and we actually come through and 189 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:20.840 got a big name. We got Tempty Alberino on the show, 190 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:22.399 and we were like, we have to get this on 191 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:26.120 video for YouTube, and Sean's just like, hey, I got 192 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:28.240 you guys. So he showed up with all of his 193 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:31.360 gear and showed us how to do all this video things. 194 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:34.759 So if you guys ever seen that Timothy Alberino video, 195 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:38.159 that was all Sean. Sean was the man with the 196 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:41.480 cameras and recording and doing the editing for us, and 197 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:44.919 so that was our big introduction into video. 198 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:49.399 There was I gotta go back. I'm sorry, Brian, I know, 199 00:10:49.639 --> 00:10:52.559 and if justin if you don't catch this yet, Brian 200 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:57.720 cannot take a compliment without giving one. He physically is inca. No, 201 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:01.120 you just can't you can't help Listen. I tell Sean 202 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:03.360 stuff like this all the time. Man, I tell them 203 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:05.519 all the time. I said, listen, God is doing something 204 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:09.480 from you. Don't sell it short. Just because you're the 205 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:11.559 one doing it it's amazing, doesn't mean that God's not 206 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:14.320 behind it. So take a compliment and deal with it. 207 00:11:14.440 --> 00:11:16.000 I tell you know, I tell that to my wife 208 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:18.759 all the time. I'm like, listen, I said, you just 209 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:21.159 take a compliment and deal with it. Just you just 210 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:25.320 got to deal with it. So man, like I said, 211 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:30.519 you guys, like I said, you know, you you inspire us, 212 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:32.480 like Justin said, You've inspired us with the video, You've 213 00:11:32.480 --> 00:11:36.080 inspired us with just you know, the talks I've had 214 00:11:36.120 --> 00:11:41.399 with you, Sean a lot of times, like just it 215 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:45.279 it's it's helped me. It's helped me grow a lot 216 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:48.480 in my faith, just to sit down have those conversations. 217 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:51.639 You know, Justin We've had a couple of those deep, deep, 218 00:11:51.799 --> 00:11:55.360 deep talks where you know, you get that real vulnerable 219 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:57.240 side of that person. And you know, I don't I 220 00:11:57.240 --> 00:11:59.480 don't do that with many people. I don't show that 221 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:04.440 side with many people. And honestly, we really were supposed 222 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:08.759 to because how else do you show that, you know, 223 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:13.720 look at I'm broken too. I'm I'm I've been you know, decimated. 224 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:17.080 I have been on the floor on my knees, just 225 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:21.200 like what's next, Like just the hits keep coming. But 226 00:12:21.279 --> 00:12:24.159 yet God always picks us back up. And if we 227 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:27.600 don't talk about those times, if we don't if we're 228 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:30.200 not open about the things, the struggles that we've had, 229 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:33.120 if we can't reach out to people, people exactly what 230 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:35.519 you guys said before, think, oh, look, these guys are 231 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:38.559 Christian podcasters. They got it all together. And guess what, 232 00:12:38.679 --> 00:12:41.759 that ain't the truth. That ain't the truth at all. 233 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:45.720 So I feel like I don't have it together more 234 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:47.000 than I ever have it together. 235 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:52.320 Yeah, it's just the truth. Yeah, and it's I think 236 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:54.039 that's all of us. The minute that you think you 237 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:55.679 know it all, the minute you think you're on top 238 00:12:55.720 --> 00:12:57.600 of your game is when you get taken down a peg. 239 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:03.200 We call that mess around and find out, and uh, 240 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:06.879 I'm I've got a couple of pH ds and mess 241 00:13:06.919 --> 00:13:07.919 around and find. 242 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:10.799 Out happens to me all the time? Happened right before here, 243 00:13:10.879 --> 00:13:13.399 right I was talking and missing the chat. I was like, 244 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:16.039 I'm gonna do this podcast by myself. I'm little, did 245 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:18.679 I know I'm in the whole wrong platform, sitting me 246 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:19.720 talking to myself. 247 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:24.759 I'm just talking you here, mess. 248 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:27.759 You might have to do it by yourself if you 249 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:30.120 don't show up to the I would have really done 250 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:32.159 a podcast all by myself over there. 251 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:35.559 Now it is real, you know, I feel like there's 252 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:38.720 so well I can speak. You know, before I knew 253 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:40.639 the Lord, I would I would talk to people. Actually 254 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:44.159 had a lot of resentment towards talking to people that 255 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:46.200 had found the Lord, that had been saved. 256 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:46.519 You know. 257 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:49.039 I have the earliest memory, I know, I was in 258 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:52.960 an elementary school. So yeah, somewhere between one and fourth grade. 259 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:56.080 I remember a girl came in and she was like, 260 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:58.440 oh I got saved this weekend. And I was like, 261 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:01.879 what happened? Your house on fire? And like somebody run 262 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:03.159 in and grab you? What happened? 263 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:03.399 You know? 264 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:05.919 So it was even at that point, you know, I 265 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:08.360 kind of resented people that had found the Lord that 266 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:11.159 had what you know, they had Jesus when I didn't 267 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:13.480 have Jesus. It wasn't because he wasn't available to me. 268 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:17.600 It's because I wouldn't accept, you know, that call. And 269 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:20.720 at large you know, it's easy to get caught up 270 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:23.960 in that. We see. We see a ton of people, right. 271 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:27.679 We live in a world where social media, the Internet 272 00:14:27.919 --> 00:14:31.440 is so dominant in everybody's lives, and it's so easy 273 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:34.600 to get swept away into comparison, and you know, that 274 00:14:34.679 --> 00:14:37.320 person has this, this person has that. Maybe I'm not 275 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:39.960 praying enough, maybe I'm not saying the right words when 276 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:42.519 I pray. You know, I've not read enough Bible, I've 277 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:47.039 not memorized enough things. And I think, you know, from 278 00:14:47.039 --> 00:14:49.679 my perspective, I think that that keeps people away from 279 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:52.000 pursuing more than it, you know, gets them to a 280 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:55.080 place to where they want to pursue. So my goal 281 00:14:55.480 --> 00:14:59.559 is that. Yet sometimes I think probably with everybody you 282 00:14:59.559 --> 00:15:02.000 know in the podcast right now, I've probably said to 283 00:15:02.039 --> 00:15:04.720 you at some point in time, I'm probably an oversharer. 284 00:15:04.759 --> 00:15:07.720 I will share my entire life with a stranger. But 285 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:10.360 it's not because I just want to put my business 286 00:15:10.360 --> 00:15:12.639 on front Street. But if it feels appropriate to let 287 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:15.840 that person know, Hey, I'm going through these things as well, 288 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:19.919 and there's still salvation after that, there's still a pick 289 00:15:19.960 --> 00:15:22.240 me up after that, there's still things after that. So 290 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:25.559 I very much don't have it all together. But that's 291 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:27.840 not the point of this walk anyway. The point of 292 00:15:27.879 --> 00:15:30.840 this walks not to have it together. It's to learn 293 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:34.519 from the times where you're broken into pieces. It's God 294 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:38.080 displays his glory through our weaknesses, and you know, he 295 00:15:38.159 --> 00:15:40.080 gets us to a point where we're so weak that 296 00:15:40.679 --> 00:15:42.480 we either get to choose death or we get to 297 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:47.480 choose life. And that's that's the walk, that's the true 298 00:15:47.480 --> 00:15:49.799 walk in my opinion. You know, nobody has it one 299 00:15:49.879 --> 00:15:53.000 hundred percent together. I don't care if you knew some 300 00:15:53.039 --> 00:15:56.200 of the people around you's deepest, darkest secrets that they're 301 00:15:56.200 --> 00:15:58.639 not talking about, you would find out how much they 302 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:01.000 don't have it together. And I just don't ever want 303 00:16:01.039 --> 00:16:04.159 to personally be one of those people that somebody thinks 304 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:08.000 has it all together. And because that's what I portray, 305 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:12.080 I make Jesus an unreachable thing, because he's very reachable. 306 00:16:12.080 --> 00:16:15.879 He's very available to all of us. And yeah, you can't, 307 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:20.559 you can't not tell the truth. That's what we're all 308 00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:22.919 chasing down right. We want to tell the truth about 309 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:25.840 these things. The Bible is full of truth, and the 310 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:30.879 Bible is a heartbreaking story that is all true, but 311 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:33.519 at the end there's victory, you know, And for me 312 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:36.200 to paint my life like it's anything different would be 313 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:38.360 you know, it would be wrong, it would be hypocritical. 314 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:41.759 And that keeps How many times do we know somebody 315 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:43.960 personally that you know, wow, I don't go to church 316 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:46.879 because it's full of hypocrites. And you can be mad 317 00:16:46.919 --> 00:16:49.840 at that, you know, But also we have to acknowledge 318 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:54.960 that the church at large walks around kind of being hypocritical. Right. 319 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:57.600 They're not telling the whole truth, They're not telling nothing 320 00:16:57.639 --> 00:16:59.919 but the truth. And I'm included in that. I'm not 321 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:02.840 hold myself above it. There's times where you know, I 322 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:04.880 try to cover up, I try to mask, I try 323 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:07.160 to you know, deflect what's going on in life to 324 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:09.519 paint this picture for somebody. But you know, I just 325 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:11.799 try to get myself pulled back the center as quickly 326 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:14.480 as possible and start telling the truth as much as possible, 327 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:17.839 you know, right when I notice those things. So we 328 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:20.480 have a responsibility, all of us in here, because we 329 00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:23.440 know the truth. We have to we have to tell 330 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:26.359 that truth at all costs, whether it be that we're 331 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:29.400 an overshare, whether it believe you know that somebody knows 332 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:32.759 our deepest, darkest secrets. It doesn't matter. You know, whatever's 333 00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:35.359 done in the dark's coming to the light anyway. And 334 00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:38.079 that applies not just with God, but it applies to 335 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:41.039 the people around us, our family, our friends, our brothers. 336 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:43.039 It just it is what happens. You can't keep this 337 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:43.799 stuff in the dark. 338 00:17:45.519 --> 00:17:47.559 So I'll go to that same point that you just 339 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:51.319 said though, is you know God, God uses those things 340 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:53.480 in our life for us to grow. Yeah, for sure, 341 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:56.160 a one hundred percent. But you know there's that's the 342 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:58.680 first step. The next step is that you see other 343 00:17:58.680 --> 00:18:00.680 people going through those things in your supposed to reach 344 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:03.559 out and and you're supposed to lead by example because 345 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:06.640 people are supposed to see Christ through you. So when 346 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:09.640 you're going through, you think about Peter and a couple 347 00:18:09.680 --> 00:18:11.599 of other disciples. You know, they get they get pulled 348 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:13.359 into the temple by the high priests. They're like, you 349 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:15.960 need to stop talking about this Jesus guy, and they're like, no, 350 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:19.880 not today. And guess what, they get flogged and they 351 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:24.480 leave celebrating that they were they were deemed worthy enough 352 00:18:24.519 --> 00:18:27.640 to suffer for Jesus in Jesus name. They were they 353 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:32.039 were that they were ecstatic about getting flogged. It wasn't 354 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:34.480 for them, It was to show the people around them 355 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:38.319 the joy that they had, even in their suffering, even 356 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:40.880 in their despair, even in when it would be the 357 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:44.319 worst possible thing you think could happen to somebody. They're celebrating. 358 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:48.240 They're sitting there going, thank the Lord that I got whooped. 359 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:52.480 I mean, you can't say much more than that when 360 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:57.200 you talk about the the stuff that we go through 361 00:18:57.200 --> 00:19:00.319 in life, like if if, if you look back to 362 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:05.319 those disciples, those people, those true witnesses of what Jesus did, 363 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:08.839 and then even people afterwards like Paul, and you go 364 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:12.400 further down the line, like Timothy, like Silas, Barnabas, all 365 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:14.839 these people. They are sitting there. They just saw what 366 00:19:14.880 --> 00:19:17.920 God did in their life and they're trying to get 367 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:21.119 that to as many people as possible. And it's those 368 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:23.759 struggles you have, those things in life. I mean, how 369 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:26.039 many times did Paul get stoned? How many times did 370 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:29.359 you know? These guys get their lives almost taken and 371 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:31.359 guess what, they get up and dust himself off. And 372 00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:33.960 Paul actually walks back into the city that he just 373 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:36.480 got thrown out of in Stone. He gets up, dust 374 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:38.880 himself off, walks back in like. 375 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:42.039 Just because he wanted to let him know what was up. 376 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:45.200 That's it. But that's how we should all be in 377 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:46.400 our suffering. 378 00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:57.200 And it is. It is very. 379 00:19:55.640 --> 00:19:58.519 Hey, guys, is Steve from the dig Bible podcast. I 380 00:19:58.559 --> 00:20:01.920 really hope you guys are enjoyment. But also the sound quality, 381 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:05.119 it's drastically improved since I handed that duty over to 382 00:20:05.160 --> 00:20:08.359 the Handcrafted Audio. If you've enjoyed the quality of the 383 00:20:08.440 --> 00:20:11.519 show and have any audio or editing needs, reach out 384 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:15.519 to Jason at the Handcrafted Audio at gmail dot com 385 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:29.599 and as always, keep digging. Well, You're easy for us 386 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:30.839 to say, you know what I mean? 387 00:20:31.240 --> 00:20:33.240 There was a there was a turning point and I've 388 00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:36.359 never shared it with you, Steve or you justin you know, 389 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:39.279 in in my walk as a Christian where I realized 390 00:20:39.319 --> 00:20:43.160 how how important being open was. You know, I've kind 391 00:20:43.160 --> 00:20:45.759 of always been that over share. I don't try to 392 00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:47.759 keep a ton away from the people I'm close to, 393 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:50.400 And now it's like I don't keep a ton away 394 00:20:50.400 --> 00:20:52.960 from even a stranger. I just met Walmart and they 395 00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:54.839 probably be like, man, he's crazy. He just told me 396 00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:57.839 his whole life story. Uh. But there was a turning point, 397 00:20:57.880 --> 00:20:59.680 and I won't bring up the subject or anything, but 398 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:02.160 there was a turning point where I had spoken with 399 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:05.599 Justin and was kind of advising him on some stuff, 400 00:21:05.640 --> 00:21:07.720 and Brian, you were there because you'd already advised me 401 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:09.759