Speaker 1: Hi, Hello, and welcome to a Brands Baking herete interview.
Speaker 2: I'm Dylan.
Speaker 3: That's pat great to be here. Permission to come onboard,
Speaker 3: permission granted? Joining us today? Is our favorite chef. She
Speaker 3: is our favorite chef and she is Are you calling
Speaker 3: her Z?
Speaker 2: I just did that as a little short, like, hey,
Speaker 2: we're friends, so I can come up with my own
Speaker 2: name for you. I'm okay, you shouldn't give me permission
Speaker 2: to do that.
Speaker 3: Okay, That's what I was wondering, like if if that
Speaker 3: is her nickname, and if if you.
Speaker 2: Call well let me I'll clear the air. Okay, let's
Speaker 2: clear the air, Karna?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 2: Okay? If I occasionally call you Z or a really
Speaker 2: better question, does anyone call you Z?
Speaker 4: Loads of people call me zor T T Bag T Pain?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, well let's welcome T Pain. Chef's Areena aka Z.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Girlfriend?
Speaker 4: Oh? I'm just in Florida right now, hence while I'm
Speaker 4: looking like a pink thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, head over page at another below
Speaker 2: deck podcast to see the video so you can see
Speaker 2: her looking like a.
Speaker 3: Gay that's right, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, So listen, we
Speaker 3: have so many cues and that's short for questions, and
Speaker 3: we have so many other things that we have to
Speaker 3: get into.
Speaker 2: I'd like to start off by saying, this is an
Speaker 2: amazing season.
Speaker 3: Bravo to Bravo. You know, you guys are really bringing it.
Speaker 3: The cast is bringing it. How was I know we
Speaker 3: can't talk about the future of the show, but how
Speaker 3: how did this kind of like season feel? Did it
Speaker 3: feel like below decky, because it's feeling very below Deckie.
Speaker 4: I felt like the beginning of it didn't feel like
Speaker 4: below deck and then almost as soon as Anthony left
Speaker 4: it was it felt like below deck again, right like
Speaker 4: watching it, but in it it just felt like a anxiety,
Speaker 4: stress full of am I going to survive this?
Speaker 2: Right? Having him there on the show was horrible for you.
Speaker 2: It was a wild time for us as a viewer and.
Speaker 4: Wait for the viewers, and I hope they enjoyed it,
Speaker 4: But I also I don't think it was good for
Speaker 4: him either. I don't think he enjoyed being there.
Speaker 3: Well, we have a lot of fan questions, but let's
Speaker 3: start off with the giant British elephant in the room.
Speaker 1: Anthony.
Speaker 2: He seemed.
Speaker 3: Well, let's let's ask you what were your what was
Speaker 3: the overall experience like for you, and then we'll dive
Speaker 3: deeper into it.
Speaker 4: I mean, I just it was just very uncomfortable for
Speaker 4: me because I knew that I really needed someone, but
Speaker 4: the person that I had just I felt like was
Speaker 4: on purpose making it harder for me. But yeah, it's
Speaker 4: it's a tough one because I think that because he
Speaker 4: comes from bigger boats that he's used to being a
Speaker 4: su chef where they basically do the head chef role.
Speaker 4: The head chef is in the office. So I think
Speaker 4: coming onto a smaller boat, he just didn't understand what
Speaker 4: his job role was. And I've said to other people
Speaker 4: as well, like Google soux chef and sixty meters yacht,
Speaker 4: and I was asking him to do exactly his job title,
Speaker 4: and I think there's just confusion, and watching it back,
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn it. I should have just at the
Speaker 4: time realized that and gone on Google and showed him like,
Speaker 4: you know, when you're on a smaller yacht, this is
Speaker 4: what your duties are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hindsight's always twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: I just don't know what he was thinking once he
Speaker 2: took the position, because clearly, I mean right out of
Speaker 2: the gate. I mean, you guys were bumping heads when
Speaker 2: you did that impromptu employee uh questionnaire in which you
Speaker 2: asked what basically you Generally, I have to say.
Speaker 1: Any one, let's get to know each other. What the
Speaker 1: fuck is your problem?
Speaker 2: What are you doing? That's right? I mean to be fair,
Speaker 2: those questions are generally when you're hiring someone that's going
Speaker 2: to sell software for you, like what's your favorite animal?
Speaker 2: And how will that make you a better coworker?
Speaker 4: But do you enjoy walks on the beach at sunset?
Speaker 2: But he was a complete dick about it, So I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 4: I need to tell the truth, Like I just need
Speaker 4: what I said by like straight strengths and weaknesses. If
Speaker 4: he says, my ice cream's amazing, but my bread shit brilliant,
Speaker 4: Well I've been making ice cream. You do know what
Speaker 4: I mean? Like that's all I needed to know, right, right,
Speaker 4: you know, so I know what section to put him on.
Speaker 3: Right So when I watch him, I he strikes me
Speaker 3: as not a an open water chef. He strikes me
Speaker 3: as somebody who wants to be in the adderall fueled
Speaker 3: hustle and bustle of a traditional kitchen environment. Is that
Speaker 3: that where he came from and what he was trying
Speaker 3: to bring to the boat, because that's not the way
Speaker 3: that these kitchens run.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that, like you know him saying as well,
Speaker 4: I think like he's worked in mission and Star restaurants.
Speaker 4: We like his age, he would have just been chopping
Speaker 4: carrots in the corner, right, you know, like I did
Speaker 4: the same when I was younger at Mission and Star restaurants.
Speaker 4: I always said it was the worst experience I ever had, Like,
Speaker 4: unless you're a head chef and a sooux chef and
Speaker 4: a mission of star restaurant, you're not really doing or
Speaker 4: learning much. You're literally just an item there to do
Speaker 4: a job, right, right, But yeah, I feel like I
Speaker 4: actually only feel like one day, you know, because he
Speaker 4: is an incredible chef at what he does, you know,
Speaker 4: but once he gets older and he learns how to,
Speaker 4: you know, be around people and manage people properly, because
Speaker 4: you can't go in as a head chef for that
Speaker 4: much confrontation, that I actually feel like he would be
Speaker 4: able to run a really good kitchen one day. It's good,
Speaker 4: Like his food is so good. You are obviously a
Speaker 4: few slip ups here and there, you know, but everyone
Speaker 4: makes mistakes.
Speaker 3: You know, you don't busting open a soouv bag is
Speaker 3: a little rookie.
Speaker 2: But this is how I know I can pick a
Speaker 2: side and think that you were in the right and
Speaker 2: he was in the wrong with all this, What could
Speaker 2: you have possibly done to get him to stay on
Speaker 2: that boat? And the answer is nothing.
Speaker 4: Nothing. I think the only thing I could have done
Speaker 4: is said, okay, do you want my role and I'll
Speaker 4: b c shift.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that you know, another elephant in
Speaker 3: the room. You know, let's just talk about you know,
Speaker 3: let's just call it what it was. I mean, I
Speaker 3: think that he had a fair amount of pushback, and
Speaker 3: you tell me, with you being a woman, I think
Speaker 3: that if you came down on him harder and maybe
Speaker 3: put him in his place, it might have worked if
Speaker 3: you had a penis.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that there was really any way
Speaker 1: to now.
Speaker 2: Make this successfully with that.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like there was any kind of misogyny
Speaker 3: coming from him?
Speaker 4: I think it was on the last three days. That's
Speaker 4: kind of where I thought it was coming from. And
Speaker 4: I think it's just because I recognized it in my
Speaker 4: surfer treat we hired a male chef, and I had
Speaker 4: to bring in my old two chef to basically help
Speaker 4: manage him, because any time I said something, he wouldn't
Speaker 4: listen to me, and I basically had to turn to
Speaker 4: my mate and be like, can you tell him this,
Speaker 4: because he listened to you, and it actually felt really similar,
Speaker 4: you know. And I did feel like I never want
Speaker 4: to like go and run up to like daddy Jason
Speaker 4: to ask for advice and help. But there were times
Speaker 4: where I'm like, could you just ask him, you know,
Speaker 4: because he just I think I don't know if it's
Speaker 4: a woman thing or just a full lack of respect.
Speaker 2: I think he might have just been a complete asshole. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he's what was he twenty two years old? You know? Yeah?
Speaker 4: He was young, you know, young, fun, full of come
Speaker 4: and I think that, you know, I just I just
Speaker 4: don't think it was the right fit. But for the
Speaker 4: audience it was brilliant. Yeah.
Speaker 3: When Pat says it was wild watching him, it wasn't.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was wild, but he means it was
Speaker 3: really fun.
Speaker 2: Great. I'll tell you why, because a lot of the
Speaker 2: fun from it if the show is the kitchen, in
Speaker 2: the food preparation and seeing if the chef can pull
Speaker 2: it off and just adding an extra element of the
Speaker 2: drama within the galley. I mean, it only took Bravo
Speaker 2: eleven years to fucking figure this out. Bravo is great,
Speaker 2: you know, right, we love.
Speaker 3: Bravo does some good seasons and then some seasons you know,
Speaker 3: far a bit. But yeah, you know it's a lot
Speaker 3: of it has to do with the cast and and
Speaker 3: you know that's that's production.
Speaker 4: I have to admit, like working this season was one
Speaker 4: of the hardest things I've ever done. Like every single
Speaker 4: element for it was always like, God, that's the first,
Speaker 4: Like God, I've haven't fucked up that much before. Like, oh,
Speaker 4: that's another first. Like every single day I basically wake
Speaker 4: up and be like, we better get that Emmy. We
Speaker 4: better get that Emmy, like everything here, Like if we
Speaker 4: don't get that Emmy, I'm gonna be pick.
Speaker 2: If ever she froze, I'll talk about she FROs if
Speaker 2: ever there was a season where I feel that the
Speaker 2: show deserves it, Emmy, it's definitely this season. We might
Speaker 2: if you know, Zerio is still there, Yeah, she's got
Speaker 2: more questions if less still it has more to kind
Speaker 2: of wrap round out the Anthony drama. How many actual
Speaker 2: days were you guys working together?
Speaker 4: Oh god, I don't even know. It just felt like
Speaker 4: one long nightmare. I think it was probably just under
Speaker 4: a week. I think, because it have been two charters,
Speaker 4: and then when he began the next one, he was
Speaker 4: it was the first morning, wasn't it? And then I
Speaker 4: had two charters alone.
Speaker 2: That's about right. Lastly, have you spoken with them since
Speaker 2: the show aired?
Speaker 1: Great?
Speaker 4: Que? No, not not really, not since it's aired. I
Speaker 4: think I think maybe him watching it back was you know,
Speaker 4: maybe quite a lot for him, and he's probably taking
Speaker 4: some time for himself.
Speaker 2: Do you mind if you have had communication though after
Speaker 2: the filming?
Speaker 4: Not yet. After filming we did like just a few
Speaker 4: memes here and there and everything.
Speaker 2: Do you think that was his way of trying to
Speaker 2: make nice?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know, to be honest, it's
Speaker 4: so far in the past now. And like I have
Speaker 4: a rule that I don't let like toxic people full
Speaker 4: into my energy.
Speaker 2: Well no, not.
Speaker 4: Really, like he pain back for me and then we
Speaker 4: would be blocked each other after the breakup.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're we're gonna where you have. You have good
Speaker 3: boundaries and that's important. You know, if you imagine your
Speaker 3: life force like you have a hula hoop around around you.
Speaker 3: For people to get in there, you gotta you gotta
Speaker 3: seriously pass some mustard, you know, And that's why everybody
Speaker 3: should live. Anyways, we have a lot of questions to
Speaker 3: get into about the entire season.
Speaker 1: The fans are voracious, barn have many questions.
Speaker 2: I want to start off by saying most of the
Speaker 2: questions today were submitted by the Barnacles, and I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna sugar crowd it ze. The Barnacles are rude, crude
Speaker 2: and ill mannered. Yeah, I believe most of them are
Speaker 2: incapable of existing in polite society, but alas Below Deck
Speaker 2: is one of their favorite shows. Yeah, so it is
Speaker 2: what it is. So should we begin with the questions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's to be again with the questions, And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pop in and kind a snipe and ask questions
Speaker 1: that I remember to ask every once in a while.
Speaker 2: Now. I know nothing about cooking, and I actually like
Speaker 2: this next type of style of food, so I had
Speaker 2: no issue with it, but of course I think quite
Speaker 2: a few people did. And we'll clear the year here.
Speaker 2: Michelle Henley and Melissa Baddock want to know, what's with
Speaker 2: your obsession with soup.
Speaker 4: Oh well, so on the preference sheets, which I follow perfectly,
Speaker 4: they kept saying that they wanted to like traditional saft
Speaker 4: Shellian food, which is curry soup. And so I'm a
Speaker 4: climate and basically every single chart guess that's what they
Speaker 4: were asking for because they wanted something traditional to the
Speaker 4: sey Shelles. And like, it got to the stage where
Speaker 4: I was like, if I get one more preference sheet
Speaker 4: saying this, I'm going to actually explode.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to make it wasn't like, you know,
Speaker 4: the style of food and stuff I exactly wanted to do.
Speaker 4: But the one thing I will say, and this is
Speaker 4: why all the guests like my food, is that I
Speaker 4: follow the preference sheets until I, you know, fucked them
Speaker 4: up with a vegan that I've forgotten about or something.
Speaker 4: But when I write my menus, it's like takes me
Speaker 4: so long because I'm literally giving them exactly what they
Speaker 4: asked for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably a pretty good idea to do that,
Speaker 3: just because they're paying for it.
Speaker 1: Quick question from me. You know you and Jason had
Speaker 1: a little bit of a quarrel episodes back where Jason
Speaker 1: was you know, essentially asking you to just feed the
Speaker 1: sea rat scraps.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Really too sure why you had such a robust issue
Speaker 1: with that. Just throw it on the floor and move on.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the problem was with you, what
Speaker 1: was going on there.
Speaker 4: At that stage. I like, since the beginning of the show,
Speaker 4: I was only running off four hours sleep at night. Yeah,
Speaker 4: there's a heavy charter for me with sleep and with
Speaker 4: the nights out, Like we don't often get our meals
Speaker 4: on the table to nine or ten o'clock at night,
Speaker 4: and so if I'm feeding them breakfast, the crew aren't
Speaker 4: going to eat till that time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And I was just like, we can't get alcohol in
Speaker 4: us and not have a heavy lunch.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: And it's just me more concerned about crew members. But
Speaker 4: also with Jason and I, like, it's sorry with Captain
Speaker 4: Jason and I, it's so difficult to have this boundary
Speaker 4: because it's like, you know, since filming the first season,
Speaker 4: like we've we've become really good friends, you know, so
Speaker 4: then you know, when we're in you know, I'm in
Speaker 4: Bali together or in Florida together, whenever, you know, I
Speaker 4: can talk back to him like that. But you know,
Speaker 4: when we're back at work and he has this captain
Speaker 4: hat on and I'm that tired, it's just like, you know,
Speaker 4: I want to be like, mate, like, don't, don't fucking
Speaker 4: do this, you know, because I'm just used to being
Speaker 4: able to talk to a friend like that. And then
Speaker 4: I was like, gosh, I mean like, you've just spoken
Speaker 4: to your captain like this, like he's your captain. He's
Speaker 4: your captain, he's not your friend. And getting into that
Speaker 4: mentality was really difficult for me.
Speaker 2: Why is a blurred because you guys all hang party
Speaker 2: with each other when you're not on the show. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I get that. Yeah, Jenny Fitzgerald wants to know did
Speaker 2: a bigger kitchen make the job harder or easier?
Speaker 4: Oh? That kitchen was horrible. Nothing worked on it. And
Speaker 4: I don't know if any of the public can see,
Speaker 4: but I only had two hobs. The other back hobs
Speaker 4: weren't really working and they were the wrong way round.
Speaker 4: So I was basically cooking for that many people just
Speaker 4: on two hobs. The oven didn't work half the time,
Speaker 4: my bottom oven didn't work, the steamer didn't work, and
Speaker 4: I felt like I was actually camping. And then also
Speaker 4: because the boat stabilizers didn't really work when you slowly
Speaker 4: rock like this. I used to have to wait to
Speaker 4: be able to open the big fridge door because if
Speaker 4: we're facing down, I just have to stand there until
Speaker 4: we're tilted that way so I can open it. Then
Speaker 4: when I'm inside, wait for it so I can open
Speaker 4: and close the door. And it just made everything so
Speaker 4: time to assuming and I kept saying, I wish I
Speaker 4: had the last shit galley. At least it kind of worked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was a little confused as to why
Speaker 3: there was this Sioux chef position this year the same
Speaker 3: amount of gas, because.
Speaker 4: You know it's by Laura on a boat that size.
Speaker 2: Oh it's by Laurana about that side. I used to
Speaker 2: know this industry has laws, Yeah, but it's.
Speaker 4: More like you know with maritime, when you're over a
Speaker 4: certain amount of like heaviness ton wise, you have to
Speaker 4: have a certain amount of crew and stuff. And they
Speaker 4: did cut off. I don't know what I'm had to
Speaker 4: say about this, but yes, some of the boat was
Speaker 4: cut off because obviously cabins aren't being used, so there
Speaker 4: was like a level cut off that wasn't news. So
Speaker 4: it's less guess, got it?
Speaker 2: Okay, so you but you still needed the sous chef
Speaker 2: aboard okay. Libby Jenna asked a great question. When you
Speaker 2: guys first came on the boat and you entered the galley,
Speaker 2: it was an absolute mitigative disaster. So who's that fault
Speaker 2: for that?
Speaker 4: The chef before he needs his license taken away? He
Speaker 4: shouldn't be allowed to that. That was I've seen small
Speaker 4: infestations before that. I've had to navigate around and clean
Speaker 4: out and do the right steps to get rid of
Speaker 4: them in my whole career. You know, I've been a
Speaker 4: chepherd seventeen years. I've never in my life seen something
Speaker 4: like that. And that shot me back like two days
Speaker 4: as well, and I never felt like I could like
Speaker 4: track for myself.
Speaker 2: Was it weavils?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Weavils. So they're like these bugs that get inside
Speaker 4: like plaster packs and rice and flowers stuff, And if
Speaker 4: it's a bad infestation, like you can tell because the
Speaker 4: whole bag of sugar or something will be moving and
Speaker 4: they just that they basically populate so quickly and they
Speaker 4: can nibble through the little bits of plastic and cardboard
Speaker 4: and get in there and just mate and make loads
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 3: So strictly Jesus good, nice god man plan, Hey serena
Speaker 3: planet Earth, tod.
Speaker 2: Let's get to some more question. Sure, if you could
Speaker 2: make this is a Shelby Zeyder. She's been with us forever.
Speaker 2: She wants to know if I shall be If you
Speaker 2: could make guess your guest dinner without using any of
Speaker 2: their preferences, basically you get to make it. What would
Speaker 2: you make them?
Speaker 4: Dore's order of them? McDonald's probably have a brain delivery
Speaker 4: or uber eats you call it here. Oh good, I
Speaker 4: don't know. I well, I specialize in nutrition on Middle
Speaker 4: Eastern food, so they'll probably just get loads of healthy
Speaker 4: Middle Eastern food.
Speaker 1: Done with them, right, So Kebob's.
Speaker 4: Nicely done and got friendly.
Speaker 1: All that.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, digress back to Anthony again. I'm just fascinated.
Speaker 2: Melissa mccantz says, can you confirm rumors that that quote
Speaker 2: unquote job Anthony left the boat for his new job
Speaker 2: that actually didn't pan out?
Speaker 4: No, it didn't happen. I think he's just using it as.
Speaker 2: An excuse to go, oh, he's a liar.
Speaker 1: What that didn't That wasn't a real job.
Speaker 2: Well, I allegedly, I.
Speaker 1: Holly smoking, Oh wow, that's a really dodgy little character. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was a pretty dodgy little character, though, I would.
Speaker 2: Say, yeah, that's allegedly. Who knows. Are we going to
Speaker 2: get to.
Speaker 4: We have we?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we'll get to him, all right, we got
Speaker 3: to get to the book man and Serina's love for
Speaker 3: the Wei man.
Speaker 2: Uh annadl Sack and Pat wants to know was he
Speaker 2: sending mixed signals? I mean, clearly, I just saw the
Speaker 2: episode that hasn't aired yet, but clearly there's an understanding.
Speaker 2: I don't want to, well this is released after that episode. Uh,
Speaker 2: you basically haven't understand that he's understanding that he's a
Speaker 2: fucking player and you don't care it.
Speaker 4: Was given shit. I think you know, there's the twenty
Speaker 4: four hours to the day and do you guys see
Speaker 4: probably like thirty minutes of it. But Vianna and I
Speaker 4: were like more like I don't know, like without the sex,
Speaker 4: like kind of fuck buddy types, you know, just like playful,
Speaker 4: funny and also like with no sleep until locked like
Speaker 4: in a kitchen or day and he's locked outside in
Speaker 4: the heat, Like sometimes you just need some oxytocin and
Speaker 4: someone to give you a hug and be like flirty
Speaker 4: just to make yourself feel good. And I think that
Speaker 4: we were those people for each other, like just start
Speaker 4: like craving, just like some sort of affection. And I
Speaker 4: think we kind of had that same understanding of like,
Speaker 4: you know, well, you know whatever, let's just use each
Speaker 4: other a little bit, you know.
Speaker 2: Barnacle Ashley straight. I can't read her question because it's
Speaker 2: so rude. Let me reword it, but basically she wants
Speaker 2: to know because she hasn't seen the newest episode where
Speaker 2: that's clearly laid out. You have an understanding with Van,
Speaker 2: but with Elephant Bone Man, you clearly had romantic feelings
Speaker 2: for him. Have you heard from Elephant Bone Man, oh,
Speaker 2: Shuell Joell.
Speaker 4: Yeah. He actually, for the first time on a different
Speaker 4: number because we hadn't spoken since I guess like two years.
Speaker 4: He on a different numbers sent me a message just
Speaker 4: when Watch What Happens Life came out, so I guess
Speaker 4: like five six weeks ago, say thank you for being
Speaker 4: so nice about what you said about me, and I
Speaker 4: was like, cool, okay, but we haven't spoken on the
Speaker 4: phone or anything or properly like message back and forth,
Speaker 4: it was just very much like thanks for that.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know how much you listen
Speaker 3: to our podcast, but I don't. Are you familiar with
Speaker 3: the Seirat sad scale? No, okay, so the Sea Rat
Speaker 3: sad scale. You know a lot of people in below
Speaker 3: deck have really really tragic and almost made up stories
Speaker 3: that are extremely traumatic.
Speaker 1: And Juow's was I think Rank's number two. Were you
Speaker 1: Were you aware that his family was tied up and
Speaker 1: his mother was hit with an elephant bone.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you're gigging in the background giggling.
Speaker 2: No, No, it's sad. That's really sad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I know all of that, but
Speaker 4: it's I know this is going to sound really terrible
Speaker 4: to say. I'm probably gonna be probably hated for this,
Speaker 4: but I don't know, Actually a South African with a
Speaker 4: story that isn't.
Speaker 2: Like that, Oh okay, okay.
Speaker 4: Like even like my best mates and married couple they
Speaker 4: had to move to Palmer because they were that them
Speaker 4: and their parents were tied up with their armed burglary
Speaker 4: and like guns to their head and everything.
Speaker 2: So it's tough. It's tough, but to be fair, I
Speaker 2: did give it a three on the sea right sad scale.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, I think this is why there's
Speaker 4: sony South Africans in the yachting industry, because they're really
Speaker 4: trying to run away to give their family, like a better.
Speaker 2: Life, got it, you know?
Speaker 1: Got it?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: Cape Town looks strong.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's amazing, though.
Speaker 4: You do have to go to Cape Town. It's one
Speaker 4: of my favorite places.
Speaker 3: I want to I want to eat bunny chow. It
Speaker 3: just looks it looks really good. I want to try
Speaker 3: bunny chow.
Speaker 4: You need bill tongue. That's what you.
Speaker 2: Need bill tong Katie Louzinder wants to know.
Speaker 1: Would you know what bill tong is?
Speaker 2: What is it? You know?
Speaker 1: Like you do you eat jerky?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I hate your You hate jerky?
Speaker 4: You like biltongue?
Speaker 1: Is it bad on your tummy? Or you just don't
Speaker 1: like it?
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. You don't try No, I'm trying
Speaker 2: to be a vegetarian. Oh that's right. Yeah, And last
Speaker 2: night I learned these cocktail drinks I've been making and
Speaker 2: drinking in a can. There are two hundred calories of can.
Speaker 2: No wonder, my fucking face looks like a basketball. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm going to quit those starting now.
Speaker 3: I could have told you that I think you need
Speaker 3: to go back to light beer. I mean, you know
Speaker 3: it's it's yeah, yeah, I mean it's okay. So anyways,
Speaker 3: we've got sorry for those. We just had to have
Speaker 3: a porum with each other.
Speaker 4: It's fine, fine, it's not.
Speaker 2: Would you rather be alone in the kitchen or have
Speaker 2: a suit?
Speaker 4: I mean I love having a sea chef because I
Speaker 4: normally feel like the ones that I pick an interview
Speaker 4: I have incredible relationships with, and I actually learned so
Speaker 4: much from my sea chefs, you know. And also being
Speaker 4: alone in the kitchen makes you go a bit crazy.
Speaker 2: But you have to popping in all day.
Speaker 4: Well not really, you do have hours and hours and
Speaker 4: hours on your own.
Speaker 3: Let's just take a let's just extend the pause for
Speaker 3: a little bit. Let's just have a moment of silence
Speaker 3: and just sit in the silence.
Speaker 4: I think the connection went. Did you ask me another question?
Speaker 2: Three more questions? No? No?
Speaker 3: Can I jump in with uh with with an inquiry?
Speaker 3: I want to get to like some some food stuff
Speaker 3: with you. But when I see you and Johnny together,
Speaker 3: I see I see a notebook like love. I see uh,
Speaker 3: I see that he's you know, we see later on
Speaker 3: in the season that he's violent towards cabinets, and he
Speaker 3: was kind of an asshole in the first episode. But
Speaker 3: Johnny has really really warmed up and he's a very
Speaker 3: very sweet guy. Was there any like romantic temperature of
Speaker 3: any kind with Johnny.
Speaker 1: Because he seemed so sweet and he was he's so
Speaker 1: doting to you.
Speaker 2: I'm spending a lot of time in the kid washing dishes.
Speaker 2: He seemed like he liked you.
Speaker 4: I don't think he liked me like that. I mean,
Speaker 4: he is just one of those really nice people, and
Speaker 4: I think he saw me like his weird older sister,
Speaker 4: you know, like you know, like like oh it's okay,
Speaker 4: like we love her, that sort of thing, like you know,
Speaker 4: don't talk to you, do you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's the gorgeous guy, my lord, like, so so handsome
Speaker 4: and so nice, and I think I actually had my
Speaker 4: most laughs with Johnny.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He really really seems like a really really sturdy Greek.
Speaker 2: Who did you have a strongest, the strongest relationship with
Speaker 2: as far as the interior goes.
Speaker 4: I mean probably Bri. I still talk to Brie a lot,
Speaker 4: but I feel like this season, like I was in
Speaker 4: that galley for twenty hours a day and I didn't
Speaker 4: feel like I could properly connect with the crew and
Speaker 4: the lights out because I was so tired. So it
Speaker 4: was actually a very lonely season for me for friendships.
Speaker 4: And I was trying to, like, you know, put so
Speaker 4: much into that gaddy because I did struggle with it.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to say I'm an incredible chef and
Speaker 4: I can handle any kitchen and all of this, like
Speaker 4: it was, it was a tough season for me work wise,
Speaker 4: so I don't actually feel like I had real time
Speaker 4: to like bond and get to know friends and relationships
Speaker 4: like I did my first season. Just isolated.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well let me can I get into some
Speaker 3: some stir some ship real quick?
Speaker 2: Of course, you give her, she's our friend. You're gonna
Speaker 2: give her hard time.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not going to give her a hard time, Laura,
Speaker 3: when I want to talk about your guys relationship, because
Speaker 3: you seem very friendly towards her, she seems kind of
Speaker 3: cold and friendly, distant to you. When she did her
Speaker 3: talking heads about you luring men into your cabin with treats,
Speaker 3: I was a little grossed out. I thought that was
Speaker 3: a scumbag move on her part. What is your guys relationship?
Speaker 3: Because she seems to be a little bit mean girly
Speaker 3: towards you, and we're just a little bit protective of you.
Speaker 4: God, I don't know how much I've I had to say. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm seeing the comments come out, making me
Speaker 4: feel really naive.
Speaker 2: You know, you're talking about the voiceovers that she did
Speaker 2: that we see that you didn't know that she was
Speaker 2: saying those things about you.
Speaker 4: Okay, you know like a lot. I mean, the whole
Speaker 4: weird Barbie thing, like fucking brilliant. I'm going to make
Speaker 4: that my merchandise. Thank you for making me some money.
Speaker 4: But it's like the the lurying because you know that
Speaker 4: for me in particular, kind of hurt a bit. And
Speaker 4: the boy, actually I prob can't say his name, but
Speaker 4: I screenshot the messages just in case people said said
Speaker 4: anything about it. He messaged me after watching the episod
Speaker 4: so being like like what the hell because we were
Speaker 4: all in the crew mass and I was like, Oh,
Speaker 4: should I go and do this? And she was like, Oh,
Speaker 4: I'm going to go get the candy. This would be hilarious.
Speaker 4: And my sou Cheherd was like, okay, then we can tie.
Speaker 4: And it was like a really funny thing that her
Speaker 4: turning it into like this malicious thing because I was
Speaker 4: actually in a relationship with the boy on the boat
Speaker 4: next door and just like messing around making jokes and stuff.
Speaker 4: And I was like, you've made me into being like
Speaker 4: I get my claws into people when I'm actually like,
Speaker 4: I know you. It doesn't really come across this way
Speaker 4: on the show, but like you know, I've been single
Speaker 4: for a very very long time, you know, and I
Speaker 4: keep myself to myself. I keep everything with like dating
Speaker 4: and stuff very much out the public eye. And making
Speaker 4: me not like a predator. I was very taken back,
Speaker 4: especially because on my first season I was like such
Speaker 4: a voice for anti vat, you know, and I've kind
Speaker 4: of felt like she was trying to take that away
Speaker 4: from me.
Speaker 2: Someone, Oh sorry, I interrupted. You go ahead.
Speaker 4: I know it's fine, but yeah, I think there's going
Speaker 4: to be more bumpy things coming out that I need
Speaker 4: to kind of prepare myself for. But items like.
Speaker 2: A hard worker, detailed, very detailed person, also very cold
Speaker 2: and kind of shut off to me.
Speaker 4: At least, which I don't understand because we had been
Speaker 4: friends for so long, and like even before going on,
Speaker 4: like I think it's like a few weeks before she
Speaker 4: had cooled me up, going I'm so excited we're going
Speaker 4: to be the best dream girl team, Like I love
Speaker 4: you so much, Like I'm just so glad that we
Speaker 4: got to do this together and like really pumping me up,
Speaker 4: like I love you, I love you and all of
Speaker 4: this to come on and instantly be like m And
Speaker 4: I was like, who's this person? You know? It was
Speaker 4: a shock for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, well Laura, if you'd like to
Speaker 1: come on, we'd love to talk to you, I mean respectfully.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll let you go, all right, Mary, this could
Speaker 2: be very telling.
Speaker 1: We all just do MFK. Are we going to ever
Speaker 1: retire this or no?
Speaker 2: This is part of their show that we implement in
Speaker 2: our show. Okay, okay, they always play this game in
Speaker 2: the night, right right, Okay, Yeah, this isn't so dodging
Speaker 2: to get to talk about sex, all right, Harry Johnny
Speaker 2: Vhan Mary f killed.
Speaker 4: Oh I probably married Johnny.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, not Harry. Huh. That's the that's the one
Speaker 2: I thought was a coin flip.
Speaker 4: But the thing is, I've probably kill him because he's
Speaker 4: like a younger brother.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah. It's a tough it's a
Speaker 1: it's a real choice. But you have to kill Harry.
Speaker 3: But that means you either have to have sex with
Speaker 3: Harry or killing Yeah, I know, she doesn't want to
Speaker 3: have sex with Harry.
Speaker 2: It's a little brother, you know.
Speaker 4: Okay, like he really is like my my brother brother.
Speaker 4: Like I would anyone laid a finger on that boy.
Speaker 2: I'm mental, Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1: I love Harry with that.
Speaker 4: With that boy, Okay, it's yeah, he's he's a good one.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so then obviously fuck Hen because I mean
Speaker 4: I have eyes and a body and I want to
Speaker 4: stosta and cream at the.
Speaker 3: Moment, right right right, Yeah, No, he's He's quite a
Speaker 3: little butt plug of muscle and blonde.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have some fun here if I threw out
Speaker 2: Johnny and I put hot Captain Jason on it and Harry, oh.
Speaker 4: And v Hen, I mean, why would you do that
Speaker 4: with Jason line? Because I feel like I don't I
Speaker 4: don't know if I just want one light with him
Speaker 4: or like the rest of my life. I felt like.
Speaker 2: That's why question.
Speaker 3: I want the rest of my life with Jason too
Speaker 3: hot ass Captain Jason.
Speaker 2: I didn't like him in that commount now he looked ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you don't have to answer that, can I
Speaker 3: ask you? Can we go through some like.
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: So I was just at a restaurant that did first come,
Speaker 3: first serve. So when you walked into the restaurant, there
Speaker 3: was no matre d there was no weight staff of
Speaker 3: any sort. It was a kind of anarchistic, fend for
Speaker 3: yourself restaurant, and it drove me insane and kind of
Speaker 3: made me rethink what humanity is capable of?
Speaker 2: Dylan, Now, can you explain because you've used that first come,
Speaker 2: first serve most chain restaurants, for example, like a subway
Speaker 2: is in fact first come, first serve. Yeah, so like
Speaker 2: a subway is first come, first serve.
Speaker 3: Right, If there are tables filled, then and you want
Speaker 3: to punish yourself and indulge in self hatred and eat
Speaker 3: under those fluorescent lights, and the tables are taken, you
Speaker 3: form a queue and you wait, and it's kind of
Speaker 3: a you know, everybody's fend for themselves, but when you
Speaker 3: go to a nice restaurant, it's usually not like that, right,
Speaker 3: because that's fucking insane if you went, like, what are
Speaker 3: some of your pet peeves when it comes to restaurant
Speaker 3: trends or culinary trends out there, because there are a
Speaker 3: lot of crazy ones cropping up.
Speaker 4: I mean, I am very much like I'm just very
Speaker 4: happy if I don't have to cook myself. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: but for me like that, I wouldn't say it's any
Speaker 4: trends and stuff because I don't really go to many
Speaker 4: trendy places because I've been very much off the grid
Speaker 4: for like a year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like Jesse Ventura.
Speaker 4: Especially venture, but yeah, I My big thing is this service. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Like I have a rule in Europe because you know,
Speaker 4: Spain is renowned for having terrible service, that if I
Speaker 4: answered the bill and they haven't bought it within forty minutes,
Speaker 4: I just walked down the road and they can chase me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you sing in Europe like everything the service is
Speaker 3: like okay, And then you get to the end of
Speaker 3: the meal and then people just disappear and you're like,
Speaker 3: I'd like to This is the part where I.
Speaker 2: Think that's because there's no tipping there.
Speaker 3: This is the part where you you did all that
Speaker 3: work for this moment and now you've.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but also I think like tipping an American now
Speaker 4: just getting a little bit too ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Well, at the at the first Come, first Serve restaurant,
Speaker 3: they did expect a twenty percent tip.
Speaker 1: Oh one hundred percent. Least favorite foods.
Speaker 3: You have foods that you just find absolutely discussing, won't touch,
Speaker 3: won't cook.
Speaker 4: She has something really weird last night, and I don't
Speaker 4: know this is this because I'm like neurodivergent and it's
Speaker 4: like a texture thing for me, but it's I got
Speaker 4: this chocolate milk and I went to have a swig
Speaker 4: of it out the bottle and it was like almost
Speaker 4: like a thick pudding.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: Sure, sure it was horrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, ninety eight percent fat.
Speaker 2: Udy'll do you mind if I roll through a couple quick?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Anna Andleseck wants to know because
Speaker 2: she doesn't follow you on Instagram. She wants to know
Speaker 2: what do you do to follow me? All right? Follow her?
Speaker 2: How do you find how she'll find her?
Speaker 4: Well, she pressed, sollow, it's quite communicated.
Speaker 2: It's chef Terina. She wants to know what you do
Speaker 2: off season? Do you just come back to land? Are
Speaker 2: you always working on these sea vessels?
Speaker 4: Well? No, I've just taken a year off yachts. I
Speaker 4: actually had I kept it all out the public eye,
Speaker 4: but I had quite a insane surgery in September.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were talking about that last time we saw you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I had to I had to do another
Speaker 4: surgery basically. So I've just been really focusing on my
Speaker 4: health and not are.
Speaker 2: You feeling Are you doing okay?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I'm actually doing okay. My hormones are still like crazy,
Speaker 4: and I've had migraines for like four months cool, which
Speaker 4: has been really annoying. But I'm actually feel like I'm
Speaker 4: just coming out of it. I just got a new
Speaker 4: doctor for my hormones and everything. I feel like slowly.
Speaker 4: The only weird thing is that my tits hurts.
Speaker 1: So much mine too, girlfriend, Yeah.
Speaker 4: And but I'm hoping it's growing pains. Has I've been
Speaker 4: waiting thirty three years for tips the year?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Two are questions, chefs Arena, Is there a blowdeck
Speaker 2: cast member that you'll never work with again?
Speaker 4: I can think of what I can think of too.
Speaker 4: I just don't know which one's worse. Yeah, probably Anthony.
Speaker 1: Oh really, oh wow that bad?
Speaker 2: Huh? Okay, well we saw it play out.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Lastly, what's the craziest thing you've ever seen happen on
Speaker 2: a charter?
Speaker 4: Probably on below deck with just.
Speaker 2: Off off in general, craziest. I can't believe I just
Speaker 2: witnessed this.
Speaker 4: I did see because my owner got a load of
Speaker 4: prostitutes on and they were all in the hot tab
Speaker 4: and they didn't actually light it, but they put a
Speaker 4: fire work up, but which, Yeah, that was a bit disturbing.
Speaker 4: And then I went up because because apparently they like
Speaker 4: asked for food or something, so I got out of
Speaker 4: bed and came up as like, what the hell is happening?
Speaker 4: But then the worst part about it is that in
Speaker 4: a month's all these naked prostitutes in the in the
Speaker 4: hot tub. I saw my captain's bold head pop up.
Speaker 2: Okay, got it? Got it?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Now we asked that question to uh, to everybody, and
Speaker 3: it usually has something to do with rich men hiring
Speaker 3: sex worker.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's.
Speaker 4: I wonder what like they get paid and stuff, because
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, like they just have to do that for
Speaker 4: one or two nights a month probably, and they get
Speaker 4: paid the same amount as me and in the industry.
Speaker 4: Hopefully these takes coming and I can start.
Speaker 3: No, you're a chef, but I I got to tell you,
Speaker 3: I've been thinking about it too. Not a market for it,
Speaker 3: but you know, we'll see yourself sure. Chef Serena, thank
Speaker 3: you so much for joining us. We love seeing you
Speaker 3: on the S Show. Next time you're in Los Angeles,
Speaker 3: we will go out and make another salami rose.
Speaker 1: Tell people where they can find you.
Speaker 4: Oh, I deleted my TikTok so chefs Arena on Instagram.
Speaker 3: Go follow, hit the follow button. The color will change.
Speaker 3: That's how you know it'll uh. It has worked, Serena.
Speaker 3: We will talk to you soon and viewing you the
Speaker 3: rest of the season.
Speaker 2: Thanks Serena, it was really good talking to you.