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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to my MUTI is da Silver. I'm
Speaker 2: just trying to talk over the music here. I could
Speaker 2: hear the music. You just gotta shout, shout, shout it out. Okay, thanks, so,
Speaker 2: welcome back to the show four o'clock hour. We're gonna
Speaker 2: try to do some breaking news Dave and I. You
Speaker 2: had a pretty good one right away with the Nuggets.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Aaron Gordon got hurt former wildcat for the Nuggets,
Speaker 3: that hurt his calf last night. So he's going to
Speaker 3: be out for a handful of weeks. Didn't you just
Speaker 3: sign a big contract in the off season too? So
Speaker 3: he did. It's too bad. He's had a good run
Speaker 3: with the Nuggets after kind of you know, kind of
Speaker 3: being in no man's land with Orlando for a lot
Speaker 3: of years.
Speaker 4: Wins an NBA championship, but part of the guy.
Speaker 2: And guess what he and I guess what you already
Speaker 2: know what? He lives and dies on those legs. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because he's a great defender and those legs. It made
Speaker 2: him a millions because of how he plays athletically, you.
Speaker 4: Know, he's not.
Speaker 3: He's developed a pretty good game, different, a different kind
Speaker 3: of game than we saw when he was here.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he couldn't.
Speaker 5: He can't.
Speaker 2: He can't shoot. He's not a good shooter.
Speaker 3: Right, but he couldn't even make a free throw when
Speaker 3: it was he when he was a Wildcat.
Speaker 2: No, and look at look at it. Look at him now. Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: fantastic athlete, one of the better athletes to come in
Speaker 2: last week.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, came out of San Jose and he said
Speaker 3: he's going to be out multiple weeks. So that's kind
Speaker 3: of a bummer for him. One of the many Wildcats
Speaker 3: in the NBA.
Speaker 2: How are they doing? They're four and three, Daniel and
Speaker 2: they're one of the favorites to win the thing again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe I think some of the guys aren't playing.
Speaker 3: He signed a four year, one hundred and thirty three
Speaker 3: million dollar contract, so he'll be able to, you know,
Speaker 3: kind of rest on.
Speaker 4: A pile of cash.
Speaker 2: You rest easy.
Speaker 4: He's averaged fifteen points.
Speaker 3: He's averaging fifteen points a game, so he is scoring
Speaker 3: and he's shooting fifty five percent on three pointers.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, So he's he's kind of developed.
Speaker 3: He's so much more Channing Fry like right, all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, But you know, Channing missed out by like
Speaker 3: ten years with his cash, right, his money, But four years,
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty three million, Jamal Murray's been hurt
Speaker 3: for them. So they're a little bit struggling a little bit.
Speaker 3: But they still have Jokic, who's, right, maybe the best
Speaker 3: player out there at this.
Speaker 2: Pointing, Well, you know they are who they are. Did
Speaker 2: you see Cleveland? Cleveland's underfeeted too, like eight no night, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're good. They beat Milwaukee last night. Milwaukee's like horrible.
Speaker 2: What's up with Milwaukee? I know, how does that happen?
Speaker 2: I guess they're getting old, although Yannis isn't that old. No, No,
Speaker 2: I think that they brought You know, who do you fire?
Speaker 2: You fire the coach and the players are the ones
Speaker 2: that are guilty of the problems. So I guess they
Speaker 2: have the same team and a new coach, Doc Rivers,
Speaker 2: well the new coach from the compared to the last
Speaker 2: year where he came on the scene, and yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: You know, he didn't fix much and here they are
Speaker 2: and they're not playing hard for him.
Speaker 3: Ye speaking of not playing about Joel Embiid, you know,
Speaker 3: three game suspension for shoving a column.
Speaker 4: Yeah, whatever that ever happened.
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you, ask me, I was gonna
Speaker 2: ask you this to me. No, but I've been I've
Speaker 2: been an uncomfortable situation with with guys approaching me and
Speaker 2: accusing me of not being unfair. But just you know,
Speaker 2: why did I have to write that or whatever? Well,
Speaker 2: it's kind of my job. I have to, you know,
Speaker 2: write that. I remember doing a story with the Tots.
Speaker 2: The Totals, I don't know if you liked back in
Speaker 2: nineteen late eighties. They didn't have the kind the goodest,
Speaker 2: the goodest guys, the greatest guys. But it was difficult.
Speaker 2: And I thought I'd have a great time at the park.
Speaker 4: Not so much.
Speaker 2: It was malcontent guys, you know, And you're this twenty
Speaker 2: three year old kid out there trying to do a
Speaker 2: story and yeah, you know, they're kind of bullying you
Speaker 2: and enjoying it, enjoying it. But yeah, it was like
Speaker 2: remember Wade Bogs, he had that story about the wife
Speaker 2: and the affairs that he was having, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: So they wanted to be a localized that story.
Speaker 4: You know, do you found a player?
Speaker 2: But no, No, it was just you know, it was
Speaker 2: an uncomfortable story because no one's going to admit that,
Speaker 2: but it's you know, you're talking to the girlfriends who
Speaker 2: go to the game and their wives and they sit
Speaker 2: together and don't sit together, you know it. And then
Speaker 2: the guys are saying, why did you write that? Well,
Speaker 2: kind of, my boss is made to do it. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. You have to do those stories
Speaker 2: that you kind of felt uncomfortable. Yeah, I mean it happens.
Speaker 3: And you know in the NBA and really now in
Speaker 3: professional sports, you know, they they're kind of shielded back
Speaker 3: and the media can do what they want. And the
Speaker 3: media may never go sit near Joel and B but
Speaker 3: he can sit there and write what he wants and write.
Speaker 3: It's out there and it's the way of world.
Speaker 2: Well, if you saw the story, I saw it a
Speaker 2: couple of days ago, and he the columnist and I
Speaker 2: can't remember his name for the Philadelphia paper, Marcus Hayes,
Speaker 2: Marcus Hayes, and I don't know that name, but he
Speaker 2: did a story, mentioned his brother and his son and
Speaker 2: talked about him being out for all these all these
Speaker 2: time and his load management or whatever, and being got
Speaker 2: upset about it because he mentioned his brother I think,
Speaker 2: who since passed or had passed away, and his son
Speaker 2: and you don't go there, you know. He just felt
Speaker 2: you just don't go there, and you know, talking about
Speaker 2: him missing a lot of games and things like that,
Speaker 2: and he confronted him.
Speaker 3: It was interesting because when you watched him in the
Speaker 3: Olympics too, it was pretty obvious he wasn't in the
Speaker 3: best of shape and he wound up having a great game.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was the last game. It
Speaker 3: was one of the later games in the in the
Speaker 3: in that uh, in that whole run. But you know,
Speaker 3: he's just he's always seems to be having some type
Speaker 3: of injury, and you know, he doesn't want to play
Speaker 3: in October November.
Speaker 2: And so let me we're talking about breaking news here stuff.
Speaker 2: But so if you can, what was an uncomfortable moment
Speaker 2: or two for you? Did you have any or did
Speaker 2: you have it easy? We had it pretty easy.
Speaker 4: I'm trying.
Speaker 3: I really can't think of like any shouting matches or
Speaker 3: anything like that. I can't imagine getting shoved. I mean
Speaker 3: that just seems I remember seeing I remember the famous
Speaker 3: Ryan Leaf tirade as a quarterback for the Chargers, and
Speaker 3: he was screaming at somebody. It was just players usually
Speaker 3: just didn't do that. You know, they knew it was
Speaker 3: going to come off terribly so even before social media.
Speaker 3: Yeah excuse me, but you know, you just can't do that. No,
Speaker 3: it looks bad and it's pretty rare. The thing about
Speaker 3: it is the fans who don't give a crap what happens.
Speaker 3: They don't care about the you know when they ask
Speaker 3: you the time, they don't want to know how the
Speaker 3: clock is made. They just want to read the story
Speaker 3: or get the story right for you to give the story.
Speaker 3: It's what happens. It happens, and they don't want to
Speaker 3: know about all this behind you see stuff. Well, the
Speaker 3: players control so much of the messaging these days too.
Speaker 3: I mean, when a guy like for the Philadelphia Enquire
Speaker 3: write something, you know, Joel probably had no clue that
Speaker 3: that story was coming because he's so used to, you know,
Speaker 3: doing his own podcast or doing his own you know
Speaker 3: whatever articles that he can write and break their own
Speaker 3: websites and things like that.
Speaker 2: Twelve years telve years, so, so twelve years. That was
Speaker 2: the beginning oh maybe early Sean Sean, Yeah, a couple
Speaker 2: of years into Sean, so two three years, did you?
Speaker 2: And before we had it made right, we could go
Speaker 2: to the locker room or we can talk to whoever
Speaker 2: we wanted or selective. Yeah, at least how did you
Speaker 2: like that or didn't like that? The change.
Speaker 4: Did not? We just you know, everybody was getting the
Speaker 4: same thing basically.
Speaker 2: And they continue to do that.
Speaker 4: They still do that.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I used to say, if if the coach
Speaker 3: is going to just talk and not break away from
Speaker 3: the podium, why am I even here? We can all
Speaker 3: someone can just get the camera and send it and
Speaker 3: that's it. You know, we're not gonna get you thing different.
Speaker 3: But whereas in the days leading up to that, we
Speaker 3: did have those chances where we could talk to you know,
Speaker 3: especially basketball, they just come walking out and just grab
Speaker 3: whoever you wanted, basically before practice maybe once a week,
Speaker 3: and then you get him after a game.
Speaker 4: And that was good enough for us.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, No, you're right. The thing about it is
Speaker 2: you need to have someone there asking the questions, whether
Speaker 2: it's you or somebody else.
Speaker 3: Well, they probably could have provided that, you know, they're
Speaker 3: just kind of messaging in themselves, but sure does does
Speaker 3: coach ever come off the podium and talk to reporters anymore?
Speaker 2: Good question. He did last night, and to his credit,
Speaker 2: Bruce probably had something to ask him on the side,
Speaker 2: because I waited for him as well afterward, well actually
Speaker 2: for Nate actually after to get my credential. And Tommy
Speaker 2: had given me a little guff at the beginning of
Speaker 2: the press conference, and then I saw him at the end.
Speaker 2: He says, go to sleep. I complained, it was a
Speaker 2: late night. You know, it's ten thirty or whatever, ten
Speaker 2: thirty year old. He said, No, I'm not. He said,
Speaker 2: yeah year old. Yeah, you know, it says, you know,
Speaker 2: just joking with me, but no, not anymore. And I
Speaker 2: remember walking with Loot after every game to his car.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember, I can see that. I remember you
Speaker 3: doing that because I wanted something different. Yeah, I had
Speaker 3: to get something different than the star that you read
Speaker 3: in the morning, So I got something different. Him and
Speaker 3: Bobby to the car got me the other four minutes
Speaker 3: maybe of extra stuff that I didn't ask at the
Speaker 3: podium because I didn't want anybody to know.
Speaker 4: Well, that's that's great that you do.
Speaker 3: I mean, we probably could have rolled our cameras out
Speaker 3: there too and tried to do the same thing. But
Speaker 3: that was one of the beauties of the NCAA tournaments,
Speaker 3: whereas it looks very you know, set up and formal,
Speaker 3: but we always had that chance like, okay, well those
Speaker 3: guys are talking the other half of the teams in
Speaker 3: the locker rooms.
Speaker 4: You go in there. So yeah, he did get more
Speaker 4: access postseason than you did.
Speaker 2: Oh regular, no questions, and that's how you get that's
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, no, it's the same way. Now. The
Speaker 2: funny thing about it is nineteen twenty eighteen, DeAndre was
Speaker 2: a senior. Then we didn't know that he was a
Speaker 2: cut up. He was a funny dude. He like he
Speaker 2: was a kid pretty much, and we didn't get to
Speaker 2: see that until the Pac twelve tournament, Pack twelve turn Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then the in CUAA tournament and we had that
Speaker 2: one game in Buffalo and that was it. That was
Speaker 2: but he was That was it Because you didn't, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you didn't.
Speaker 4: Is a shame.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it really is a shame because I
Speaker 3: think that's kind of again not to harp back on
Speaker 3: the past that much, but that's really kind of what
Speaker 3: made this program, what it was in terms of personalities,
Speaker 3: and you know, we were fortunate to have the Steve
Speaker 3: Curz because we could talk to him and watch him
Speaker 3: grow up and Sean and those kind of guys, and
Speaker 3: that I couldn't tell him much about Caleb Love or
Speaker 3: Jayden Bradley.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, imagine the Shawn years when come on,
Speaker 2: how many of those guys are connected to this place? Yeah, honestly,
Speaker 2: how many? Honor tej who you think that would be
Speaker 2: the guy? He hasn't He's gone now. Kid. We just
Speaker 2: talked about with Gordon. How often do they come back? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you don't know them. One of the things that I
Speaker 2: don't want to waxport a conlute all this much. But
Speaker 2: he let them grow up. And maybe it was the
Speaker 2: times when you just said, here, that's just don't say
Speaker 2: anything stupid, you know, it was.
Speaker 4: It was different.
Speaker 2: And now guys are saying, don't say anything stupid on
Speaker 2: the podium, but you know, be careful what you say.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's.
Speaker 3: An interesting point too, because I mean there's been this
Speaker 3: love affair with the lute guys, and how's it going
Speaker 3: to be with the Sean Miller players, you know, because
Speaker 3: he's not going to probably come back as Loot.
Speaker 4: I mean lived here in his later years, no question.
Speaker 3: Whereas you know, we have these you know, fantasy camps
Speaker 3: and we have no Union games. You know, every so
Speaker 3: often those are the Loot players. Yeah, what about the
Speaker 3: Sean Miller players. It's going to be an interesting dynamic
Speaker 3: as they get older and time goes by, and maybe
Speaker 3: Sean retires, maybe he comes back to Tucson.
Speaker 2: Yeah I doubt that.
Speaker 3: Well really whatever, but I mean, as he leaves basketball
Speaker 3: and he's you know, he left after what twelve years.
Speaker 4: It's a lot of players and a lot of success.
Speaker 2: Right right. And another thing that I think the Loot's
Speaker 2: time the guys, and you see this everywhere, how many
Speaker 2: of them are broadcasters. They were dealing with media all
Speaker 2: the time. Yeah, they turned into the media. You know,
Speaker 2: Sean does his spurs, Corey does his, Matt Milbuck does his,
Speaker 2: Reggie does his Steve did.
Speaker 3: His Steve did his go back? I bet I bet
Speaker 3: he could go back. Yeah, when he's done. He's already
Speaker 3: stepping away from the Olympics, So who knows how much
Speaker 3: longer he's gonna want to go. Sure, I'm sure you know,
Speaker 3: there's a look what's happening with the NBA on television too?
Speaker 3: In the next uh well, starting next year, there's going
Speaker 3: to be games on every night basically everywhere, from Amazon
Speaker 3: to NBC to the ESPN and TNT still so yeah,
Speaker 3: there's a lot.
Speaker 2: Of job openings. Did you see the game last night
Speaker 2: the Chiefs? Yeah, so you watch back and forth the
Speaker 2: basketball game and.
Speaker 3: The beauty of having a laptop and a TV and yeah,
Speaker 3: time on my hands, and yeah it was good. Yeah,
Speaker 3: prett easy games. How about some of the receivers. I
Speaker 3: know people have been talking about the catches. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of great endings to games. And that Saquon Barkley
Speaker 3: game where he turtled over somebody backwards.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great grea.
Speaker 2: The catch for the Roger touchdown was fantastic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: On Thursday that was the first game, and then the
Speaker 3: Philadelphia catch and the Seahawks game.
Speaker 2: So you watched the we got got a couple of
Speaker 2: minutes here and I didn't see it. I really didn't
Speaker 2: look at it. The girls, the women's game last night.
Speaker 2: What did you see a little bit? Maybe is Michael
Speaker 2: lev coming up? Maybe maybe there. I didn't watch much.
Speaker 2: I mean you know, I just didn't have time. I
Speaker 2: don't know the principals outside of Williams pretty much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a number of new players there. She's really
Speaker 3: kind of turned that roster over too in the last
Speaker 3: couple of years. I don't know, a couple of freshmen
Speaker 3: and Jada Williams seems to be the star of the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see what they do. You say she
Speaker 2: turned the program, but she turned the roster over. I
Speaker 2: think they may have been they turned the roster over
Speaker 2: her and or vice you know, vice person. Yeah, maybe accommodation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they had such a high a couple
Speaker 3: of years ago, and it just they've had a hard time,
Speaker 3: you know, getting back to that level. But again, you know,
Speaker 3: as everybody's gonna do. They got to move to a
Speaker 3: new conference. So we'll see. Well, they're facing you. You
Speaker 3: came here in eighty minute early eighties. Would you have
Speaker 3: ever ever dreamed of what she would what anybody would
Speaker 3: have done?
Speaker 2: No, to me, it's impossible. When I went to the
Speaker 2: championship game of the of the n I T six
Speaker 2: years ago, whatever years ago, I'm thinking, how did this happen?
Speaker 3: Yeah, even in the Bambasini years, they didn't draw like that. No,
Speaker 3: I mean, they had some success, they had you know
Speaker 3: a number of teams that made the tournament and things
Speaker 3: like that, but they didn't. They weren't putting, you know,
Speaker 3: ten thousand fans into McHale for a for a women's game.
Speaker 3: Yet that came later, and you know, it was again,
Speaker 3: maybe circumstances are different. She's it was as again as
Speaker 3: social media was a thing. Idea is really good at that,
Speaker 3: and the un as really good at that, and there's
Speaker 3: just more attention to the team and had a dynamic
Speaker 3: player and Aery McDonald and Sam Thomas and people like that.
Speaker 2: So it all kind of clicked. At least that one year,
Speaker 2: right right, magic happened and it worked. Yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 2: good good for her, and she'll live with that forever.
Speaker 2: I mean, because you're one shot away from winning the
Speaker 2: national title in a stunning fashion. Yeah, okay, let's let's
Speaker 2: try to do this again. We're gonna go take a break.
Speaker 4: We'll still be here.
Speaker 2: We'll still be here trying to figure it out and
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Speaker 1: the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey welcome back to Winning the Ball here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera. You're Dave Silver down
Speaker 2: on the phone. We hope to have Michael V. Are
Speaker 2: you there? Michael? I am great, You're great. It's working.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: We had a hard time last hour.
Speaker 5: Great.
Speaker 2: Did you get in sleep yesterday or last night because
Speaker 2: you were busy?
Speaker 5: Oh? That wasn't that bad. I mean, look, the first
Speaker 5: game was at four o'clock, so I was.
Speaker 13: I was home by eleven, in bed by one or so,
Speaker 13: which is pretty typical for me anyway.
Speaker 5: So yeah, no, I was.
Speaker 13: I was happy to be in Mikale for an opening
Speaker 13: double hatter. I thought that was pretty cool.
Speaker 2: You must have because you didn't write right, You're probably
Speaker 2: gonna do something in the future about both things.
Speaker 5: I wrote about it this morning.
Speaker 2: Okay, what till what was the story?
Speaker 5: It was basically like three takeaways.
Speaker 13: For each team, you know, like six total observations over
Speaker 13: the course of of four hours of basketball. Let's start
Speaker 13: with the women, however, many total hours of Michale.
Speaker 2: Yeah, your three observations. I'll never do this again. That's
Speaker 2: one of them. What what did you get from the
Speaker 2: women's game?
Speaker 13: I think to me, the biggest away from the women's
Speaker 13: game was that they had thirty bench points, which means
Speaker 13: that they actually have a bench.
Speaker 5: You know, last year there were.
Speaker 13: Times when they literally had one player that they could
Speaker 13: go to off of the bench.
Speaker 5: You know, they had there were some games because of.
Speaker 13: Transfers, people leaving the team, injuries where they were down.
Speaker 5: To six healthy bodies. So they had eleven.
Speaker 13: Players that they used yesterday, and a lot of them
Speaker 13: look like, you know, they're good enough to start. So
Speaker 13: I think that's a really encouraging sign. None of those
Speaker 13: points came from Montea. Do you know Who's was a
Speaker 13: very highly touted player coming out of high school who
Speaker 13: missed all of last season because of the knee injury.
Speaker 13: I think she'll get better over the course of time,
Speaker 13: and that'll make the team even deeper.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, much like the men's team, you know,
Speaker 3: it's a mixture of college basketball.
Speaker 4: Is crazy.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a mixture of so many different elements
Speaker 3: of transfers and young players and veteran players. It's just
Speaker 3: I don't know how these coaches do it. I mean,
Speaker 3: how how do you think they are able to work
Speaker 3: their magic just to get these rosters put together.
Speaker 13: I think it's easier in basketball because there's just fewer
Speaker 13: players that you need compared to say football. The difference
Speaker 13: with basketball, though, is that you're dipping into the international
Speaker 13: pool a lot, especially here, which I think is really
Speaker 13: smart strategy for both men and women. I would bring
Speaker 13: over as many European players as I could, because number one,
Speaker 13: they usually have a stronger base of fundamentals than a
Speaker 13: lot of the American kids do. And then number two,
Speaker 13: they're much less likely to transfer. I mean, they're already traveling, however,
Speaker 13: a thousand, however, many thousand miles from home to come
Speaker 13: to this college destination.
Speaker 5: They are probably less.
Speaker 13: Apt to switch schools after making that particular commitment. But yeah,
Speaker 13: that's why the you know, that's why the coaches get
Speaker 13: paid as much as they do to to bring together,
Speaker 13: you know, players from all over the place, different styles,
Speaker 13: different personalities, and make them into a good team. And
Speaker 13: the best teams usually have good camaraderie and good chemistry.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you, and this is a candid question.
Speaker 2: In your time here you covered football mostly and now
Speaker 2: you're doing a columnist work. How many games had you
Speaker 2: gone to for the women's side, women's basketball.
Speaker 5: I'd say I've probably gone to at least half a dozen.
Speaker 2: Okay, so okay, maybe more.
Speaker 5: The reason try to.
Speaker 13: Watch them, try to watch them on TV if I'm
Speaker 13: available as well.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 2: The reason I'm going to ask the question, I just
Speaker 2: wanted to get some background. So have you noticed anything
Speaker 2: different from idea? Obviously, she she built this program, she
Speaker 2: had some success. Now she's trying to sustain it. Have
Speaker 2: you seen anything noticeably different? Maybe the same? Is she
Speaker 2: the same person?
Speaker 13: Well, I think she's acknowledged that things have changed in
Speaker 13: the industry, and you know, if you don't change along
Speaker 13: with it, you're probably not going to be successful. She's
Speaker 13: had a lot of players leave. I mean, it's no secret,
Speaker 13: but that's happened. I mean, I think she's a she's
Speaker 13: a tough coach. She's a real old school she She's
Speaker 13: going to make you play defense whether you want to
Speaker 13: or not. But I think, you know, there is uh
Speaker 13: she's had a realization that maybe she has to be
Speaker 13: a little bit more flexible with the modern player, right
Speaker 13: because you know, if they don't like the way things are,
Speaker 13: they can just go and there's there are no penalties
Speaker 13: for it. You don't have to sit out. You know,
Speaker 13: you can go anywhere you want, anytime you want. So,
Speaker 13: I mean that's a that's a very different paradigm that
Speaker 13: she's dealing with. I think it's affected her.
Speaker 5: Recruiting approach a little bit.
Speaker 13: I mean she's talked about, you know, like kind of
Speaker 13: trying to find the right personalities and role players to
Speaker 13: fit in with, like, you know, the big class that
Speaker 13: she brought in last year with m Jada Williams and
Speaker 13: Bray Playingham and Skylet Jones and Montea do because everyone
Speaker 13: wants to play and one of the main reasons that
Speaker 13: kids get unhappy is when they're not playing.
Speaker 5: So I think that's one of the sort of the
Speaker 5: things that she's looked at, is how do I put
Speaker 5: the roster together?
Speaker 13: You know, what are the types of players that I
Speaker 13: need to look for in this modern world to to
Speaker 13: kind of in dovetail with your previous question to put
Speaker 13: together a good team.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say the roster it's it's full.
Speaker 3: I mean last year there were there were moments where
Speaker 3: there was what six or seven players, as you said, So,
Speaker 3: you know what about Montea do that she's a player
Speaker 3: that came in so highly touted. What eighth ranked player
Speaker 3: in the in the country gets hurt. What's her potential?
Speaker 5: I think her potential is very high.
Speaker 13: I didn't really realize this until I was talking to
Speaker 13: some of the other reporters, But she hasn't played like
Speaker 13: in real games, and I think over two years because
Speaker 13: she was amed, she decided to be a mid year
Speaker 13: en roie, you know, like leaving school early, coming here,
Speaker 13: you know, the equivalent of halfway through her senior year
Speaker 13: of high school. So I don't think she played high
Speaker 13: school ball her senior year, and then she didn't play
Speaker 13: after she got here that for that half season, so
Speaker 13: that's essentially kind of her pseudo freshman year. And then
Speaker 13: she didn't play all of last year either.
Speaker 5: So it's going to take a.
Speaker 13: Little bit of time for her to get acclimated to
Speaker 13: you know, get comfortable with the speed of the game,
Speaker 13: to overcome critically the mental hurdle playing with repaired me,
Speaker 13: which you know, like she probably has never done that before,
Speaker 13: and you have to kind of you have to to
Speaker 13: defeat the injury in your mind. So I've heard that
Speaker 13: she's really smart, that she's a great facilitator, a great passer,
Speaker 13: someone who can play multiple positions, kind of like Helena
Speaker 13: Poeo was. But she's also six two, Like I was
Speaker 13: struck watching her yesterday, Like this girl's big, Like she
Speaker 13: could legitimately play power forward in the women's games.
Speaker 5: So I think there's a lot of potential there.
Speaker 13: But they're going to be patient with him with her,
Speaker 13: I should say, and the fans should be patient with
Speaker 13: her as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean it's quite a class because you got Brea.
Speaker 3: She was ranked just looking at some ESPN list here,
Speaker 3: I mean, excuse me, Jada was twenty first, and then
Speaker 3: Brea was fourteenth, and then well yeah, so they're Montea eight.
Speaker 2: So they've got three three. You know, we'll see what
Speaker 2: comes over. And let's move to basketball really quick. Well
Speaker 2: we have you, We're going to go to football last,
Speaker 2: because but what were your impressions of last night? And Tommy.
Speaker 13: I thought, well, first of all, Canisius is really small.
Speaker 13: I mean, every they didn't play anyone who was taller
Speaker 13: than sixty eight, so it's really difficult to to kind
Speaker 13: of each what you're watching, Uh, when you play an
Speaker 13: opponent like that, I mean, the teams that they're going
Speaker 13: to face sooner than later are going to be much
Speaker 13: bigger and much stronger.
Speaker 5: But the thing that.
Speaker 13: Stood out to me the most probably was just the
Speaker 13: play of Jaden Bradley, kJ Lewis and Caleb Love together.
Speaker 13: It was with the help of my colleague Brian Peterson.
Speaker 13: He showed me, uh the a Ken palm that that
Speaker 13: trio played together last year year about fourteen point three
Speaker 13: percent of time on the floor and last night I
Speaker 13: think it was over thirty five percent. Yeah, And I
Speaker 13: think that that those three players together there's a lot
Speaker 13: of potential there. They are all really quick athletic, They
Speaker 13: can all jump like, they can harass opposing guards and defense,
Speaker 13: they can flash to the basket.
Speaker 5: I really like the potential of that kind of big
Speaker 5: three for Arizona moving forward, which was.
Speaker 13: As mentioned, like a configuration that they just didn't use
Speaker 13: that much last year because you know, they had Kylon Boswell,
Speaker 13: they had Telo Larson. kJ was just a freshman coming in.
Speaker 13: You know, when you're able to bring some guys back,
Speaker 13: which they were able to do, you know, they can
Speaker 13: build up some chemistry over time.
Speaker 5: And I thought, I thought it really showed with those three.
Speaker 2: Last night, right, No question, I've asked that question a
Speaker 2: few times since since the season started, or you know,
Speaker 2: the early season started, because it reminds me. It reminds
Speaker 2: me having covered the team for so long that the
Speaker 2: the Bibi Simon Dickerson group, and they had and they
Speaker 2: had Terry coming off the bench, which is like a four,
Speaker 2: And I remember raveling tell me this, this team is
Speaker 2: so good that you don't expect two guys to get
Speaker 2: in trouble. Maybe one guy will have a bad game,
Speaker 2: two guys will be okay, one guy. You know, it
Speaker 2: depends on the combination. The only you know, the three
Speaker 2: cups there the pick, the poison whatever, and then you
Speaker 2: have another guy with Terry. But now you have three
Speaker 2: guys who can do a lot of different things. The
Speaker 2: thing about it they did all at one time in
Speaker 2: Utah was a Utah game when they all failed. But
Speaker 2: you don't, you know what I'm saying, they're that good.
Speaker 2: They're all not exactly interchangeable.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're not all the same.
Speaker 13: Like they used kJ at the point last night a
Speaker 13: little bit, which was interesting becauld he'd be the last
Speaker 13: one of those three that I would view as a
Speaker 13: point guard. Yeah, I just still don't think he's a
Speaker 13: fullyformed player. He's still not a great outside shooter, hasn't
Speaker 13: really shown that yet, but excellent sensively, always plays with
Speaker 13: a lot of energy, hustle, He's strong. I think that
Speaker 13: is important for Tommy to figure out what.
Speaker 5: He wants his rotation to look like. And I suggested
Speaker 5: in the column today that one of those three guys
Speaker 5: should be on the floor all the time.
Speaker 13: Seemed like they got their their their offense really bogged down,
Speaker 13: and defense too. You could you could say yesterday when
Speaker 13: he kind of went to an all bench look instead
Speaker 13: of kind of mixing and matching, and that's something you
Speaker 13: just struggled a little bit. And I think you want
Speaker 13: to have one of those three guys out there all
Speaker 13: the time.
Speaker 3: It's a lot like you know the NBA too, where
Speaker 3: it seems like I'm just thinking, I'm a big Warriors
Speaker 3: fan and all these it was always going to be
Speaker 3: Steph or or Draymond or Clay was going to be
Speaker 3: on the court. One of those guys was always out there,
Speaker 3: no matter who was the other combination. You always got
Speaker 3: to have, you know, one of those guys just to
Speaker 3: kind of keep things calm. And then having having some
Speaker 3: experience and some talent as well.
Speaker 13: Yeah, and of course he just he just got previous back, yeah,
Speaker 13: previous last night. So that's, you know, an important piece.
Speaker 13: And there's there's still time to figure out the rotations.
Speaker 5: Even you know it won't be figured out.
Speaker 13: I'm sure you won't have it finalized and like, oh,
Speaker 13: I've got it via the Wisconsin game with the dude game.
Speaker 13: There was that one year a couple of years ago
Speaker 13: when he switched Paula Larson from the starting line up
Speaker 13: to the bench and I think January, Yeah, and it
Speaker 13: just like changed everything, you know, like it just became
Speaker 13: a much better team.
Speaker 5: And they did that, so you know, it's it's it's
Speaker 5: always a work in progress.
Speaker 2: That's got a football. Before we run out of time here,
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts to this point, and let me
Speaker 2: ask you specific to to to Brennan. Has he well
Speaker 2: this goes I want to say, has he had any missteps? Uh,
Speaker 2: we don't. We don't have enough time for that. But
Speaker 2: anything over the last few weeks that you've kind of
Speaker 2: struck you to say maybe he should not have said
Speaker 2: that or or anything like that. Because you watch the games,
Speaker 2: you know, you watch it twice in a week.
Speaker 5: I haven't been watching these these last week minus, but
Speaker 5: I can't stomach it. So I did, you know back
Speaker 5: in my like.
Speaker 13: The reporter days, I actually I did watch every game
Speaker 13: a second time, including that sixty nine to seven loss
Speaker 13: in at Washington State in twenty sixteen. So yeah, talk
Speaker 13: about a gutmant for punishment. I wouldn't say anything that
Speaker 13: he's said. It's just more what they've done on the field.
Speaker 13: Like I thought, against West Virginia, I saw some things
Speaker 13: on offense that were encouraging, like mixed it up a
Speaker 13: little more.
Speaker 5: They had more motion.
Speaker 13: They were using the tight ends and running backs like
Speaker 13: on the wings to help the offensive tackles, and I
Speaker 13: barely saw any of that against UCF. They've given up
Speaker 13: pressure off the edge all season, law and they haven't
Speaker 13: fixed the problem. That that worries me a little bit
Speaker 13: about this coaching staff is they've had some glaring issues
Speaker 13: and they haven't been able to solve them over the
Speaker 13: course of the season. I feel like on the other
Speaker 13: side of the ball, defensively, far and away their worst performance.
Speaker 13: I did not like the scheme that they brought into
Speaker 13: this game. Duanne Keenas decided to stick with the dime
Speaker 13: package because he feels like, you know, those are the
Speaker 13: eleven players he could trust the most. But to do
Speaker 13: that against kind of a power running team never really
Speaker 13: made sense to me. It didn't work very well. So yeah,
Speaker 13: it's been a i'd say, just a deeply disappointing season
Speaker 13: on many levels.
Speaker 3: Any pointing question, Dave, any more questions, Well, we're gonna
Speaker 3: they have a buye you think what are they could
Speaker 3: do in this bye week? Because Steve and I were
Speaker 3: talking about, well, they're going to make some coaching changes
Speaker 3: on the staff.
Speaker 4: Do you do you see that happening before the end
Speaker 4: of the season.
Speaker 5: Sure, sure doesn't seem like it. Ma's done with that.
Speaker 5: Brandon told us yesterday. We thought, you know, if it
Speaker 5: was going to happen that Monday would be that day,
Speaker 5: and it didn't.
Speaker 13: So it seems like he's gonna stick with what he
Speaker 13: has for now, probably through the end of the regular season.
Speaker 5: Which is only a few weeks away. At this point,
Speaker 5: you know, he's got a he's fighting for his.
Speaker 13: Own job, and as crazy as it sounds, and that
Speaker 13: we all know what like what the buyout is, I mean,
Speaker 13: this is this is a serious situation for him and
Speaker 13: for that program Desiree read Francois. She's she knows how
Speaker 13: important football is, like you have to get football right
Speaker 13: or else, like whatever the money problems that they have now,
Speaker 13: they're only going to be worse. She also and she
Speaker 13: doesn't want to be left behind either, like should the
Speaker 13: whatever the super League or whatever you want.
Speaker 5: To call it form, So.
Speaker 13: You got to get it right.
Speaker 5: And it really isn't a lot of time to waste.
Speaker 13: So the Brent Brennan, he really he has to prove
Speaker 13: himself over these last three games and in the month
Speaker 13: of December if he remains on the job with the
Speaker 13: other transfer portal and whatever all their moves.
Speaker 5: She she thinks he needs to make.
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Speaker 5: Thanks guys, good you, ladies.
Speaker 2: I tell you, thank you very much. Hey, let's take
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Speaker 2: A lot of people showed up last week. It was
Speaker 2: a good time. People come in and ask us questions
Speaker 2: on air, so that was fine.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we're really kind of in the glory
Speaker 3: time of the year when it comes to sports. You know,
Speaker 3: everything is kind of coming together, especially as college basketball
Speaker 3: started last night with official official games.
Speaker 2: And you know who won that game last night. I'm
Speaker 2: sure Gonzaga did beat there wasn't it pretty close?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I thought they were killing them and then you might
Speaker 2: have ended up close. Yeah, I'll check that out.
Speaker 3: You you had something to h not to tout ESPN
Speaker 3: plus that much, but I mean again, if you're a
Speaker 3: Wildcat fan, I pretty much recommend you get that. And
Speaker 3: there are so many games on that service that it's
Speaker 3: almost confusing when you when you first log on, there's
Speaker 3: got it. There'd have been twenty five games of all
Speaker 3: different levels and locations, and you know the magnitude. Some
Speaker 3: of were just nothing type games like you know, the
Speaker 3: Air on a Canisius wasn't you know, right, big, big time,
Speaker 3: but there was other pretty good ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you had some time to talk about rather
Speaker 2: than indoor football. Indoor football, you're excited about this? The
Speaker 2: super Bowl of Indoor Football coming to Tucson, Well is
Speaker 2: a surprise. We're going to try to get Kevin Guy
Speaker 2: on here in the next day so to talk about
Speaker 2: it because he was instrumental in doing that. But yeah,
Speaker 2: tell me more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's coming next year, in twenty twenty five, August
Speaker 3: twenty third, so right, speaking of the dead of summer,
Speaker 3: right before college football season starts. So it's going to
Speaker 3: be the it's going to be the first of three
Speaker 3: straight years that they're we're going to host the Indoor
Speaker 3: Football League Championship game at the Tucson Convention Center. So
Speaker 3: before it had been in Las Vegas and other cities
Speaker 3: that they were thinking about, where Vegas, in Nashville, but
Speaker 3: Tucson has done pretty well with indoor football with the
Speaker 3: Sugar Skulls, they get pretty good crowds. Wow, and yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean Rio Nuevo went for it. Your buddy Edmund Marquez,
Speaker 3: you know him, right, had then.
Speaker 4: Helped out with that.
Speaker 2: He's one of my sponsors.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he had the vice chairman of Rio Nuevo.
Speaker 3: And it's nice to have an event like that really
Speaker 3: during a kind of a slow time. School's kind of
Speaker 3: coming back at the u of A as I think
Speaker 3: about it right around then, so could be some activity
Speaker 3: with students coming over. But it's a good opportunity beat
Speaker 3: out Las Vegas to get something like that, which is nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had no question, and it's surprised by this
Speaker 2: because his well, historically they haven't really I had a
Speaker 2: lot of attendance, a big attendance, you know, three thousand,
Speaker 2: three and a half thousand, maybe I've been to a
Speaker 2: couple of first ones and okay, I get it. But
Speaker 2: now they're gonna have the big daddy of them all. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well they evidently they bid for it. Nashville doesn't even
Speaker 3: have a team and they bid for it. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: it was like between Las Vegas and Nashville and Tucson
Speaker 3: and Tucson and.
Speaker 2: Well, apparently I don't know in the story, does it
Speaker 2: say that the Rio Nuevo gave a.
Speaker 4: Lot of money money a million dollars?
Speaker 2: It was a million oh for three years? Yep, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: because I thought it was the three hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: three for a year, So that makes sense they broke
Speaker 2: it down into three years, right. Yeah, it's good a city,
Speaker 2: good for the you know, Kevin guy, maybe he'll get
Speaker 2: that team in there, you know.
Speaker 3: And the road Runners are in the early stages of
Speaker 3: their season two, so Rhana we able to help keep
Speaker 3: them here as the Coyotes were heading off to Utah. Right,
Speaker 3: but they're saying this championship game is going to be
Speaker 3: a multi day event. They're going to have some type
Speaker 3: of Hall of Fame inductions and some press conferences and
Speaker 3: celebrity celebratory festivities.
Speaker 2: I'm wondering, well, you know, you're in Vegas and there's
Speaker 2: so much going on, right that maybe it didn't get
Speaker 2: highlighted enough. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, it turns out, you know, I mentioning you of
Speaker 3: a football Their season next year is going to start
Speaker 3: August thirtieth, so it'll be exactly a week before that,
Speaker 3: so there'll be no conflict if you want to go
Speaker 3: week zero as they call it. I guess maybe August
Speaker 3: thirtieth against Hawaii. They're coming here up.
Speaker 2: Here wturn game from the little take game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 2: So you paid much attention to the bracketology like now
Speaker 2: now college basketball basketball now?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: So the latest the latest is ut huh already play?
Speaker 2: They have it the day after the Final four? Okay,
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess I've stated it. They updated. Where
Speaker 2: do you think Arizona is? And and the seed I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say probably a five seed. Five seed you're not
Speaker 2: being as generous as they are. Three seed, you know
Speaker 2: in the in the West, obviously going to Denver first round,
Speaker 2: which I hope does happen because I have relatives there,
Speaker 2: so I've been there before a few times. So uh
Speaker 2: in in uh in watching basketball there. So three seed
Speaker 2: maybe playing a six seed Kentucky in the second round,
Speaker 2: but in Kentucky's now more of a how can I
Speaker 2: say this, more of a folklore than it is a
Speaker 2: basketball program.
Speaker 3: Well, the beauty of of of last night to watching
Speaker 3: the Kentucky game is the re emergence of kerkkrisa on thirteen.
Speaker 2: So did you watch that game a little bit? So
Speaker 2: what happened?
Speaker 4: They won? I don't remember who they were playing.
Speaker 3: Oh, to admit, but you've got a really good Kentucky
Speaker 3: fan here in Tucson that we text back and forth.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, Kerr Crease, I completely missed that story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he went in Gin and they went to so
Speaker 2: there he was so the guy, the guy knows how
Speaker 2: to sell himself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's going to do like six years in college
Speaker 3: and then probably go back to Estonia and play professionally there.
Speaker 3: But sure it probably gets some good nil cash. And
Speaker 3: did they get I l he got a car or
Speaker 3: two when he went to West Virginia, Okay. And that
Speaker 3: was you know, whether it's true or not, that was
Speaker 3: one of the reasons what he wanted here. He wanted
Speaker 3: some dole here and they were going to do it.
Speaker 3: So he said, you know, good luck. They played right
Speaker 3: State okay, one O three sixty two.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Kerr had fourteen minutes, zero points. Oh really,
Speaker 2: but my assists? How many turnovers? That's the key for him.
Speaker 2: I'll have to check deeper, curs Kerr. He was good,
Speaker 2: he was you know outspoken guy year, very quittable, cussed
Speaker 2: on on camera a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, very energetic and emotional, and you know,
Speaker 3: made some interesting gestures during the during the game to
Speaker 3: the fans and kissing Michaelson the center court and Arizona
Speaker 3: ate it up. I remember he hit games like you
Speaker 3: go like, you know, seven for eight, for three, and
Speaker 3: then the next game you go like, oh for ten.
Speaker 2: Yes, I remember that.
Speaker 4: It was pretty erratic.
Speaker 2: You either loved him or you hated him, or he
Speaker 2: was kind of polarizing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it is.
Speaker 2: But I just want to say there's number three right now,
Speaker 2: and you know what that means in November. Not a
Speaker 2: damn thing, not a damn thing for you know, Arizona
Speaker 2: went to do last year at this time and obviously
Speaker 2: surprised everybody, and the beat Duke on the road. And
Speaker 2: you know, Tommy, I don't say bless his heart, but
Speaker 2: bless his heart. And he says, I asked him, what
Speaker 2: does this all mean? He says, well, it doesn't mean much. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he's right. I mean's it's what you're determined or
Speaker 2: what happens in March. Yeah, I mean it was a
Speaker 2: great win. It you know, it's a good The good
Speaker 2: thing about it's short term kind of situation too. You're
Speaker 2: on TV one, was watching it. Maybe it was the
Speaker 2: only big college game that night. You know, Arizona going
Speaker 2: into to do is a big, big deal, So didn't hurt.
Speaker 2: Didn't hurt then, But you're right, like, who cares three
Speaker 2: months later? Yeah? No, No, It's like when they when
Speaker 2: I covered the team when they're going to New York
Speaker 2: and win to the n I T after nobody gave
Speaker 2: them any kind of respect and they'd win it, finished
Speaker 2: out of the rankings, and then by the week and
Speaker 2: they're number four in the country. What did it mean?
Speaker 17: Right?
Speaker 2: Nothing? Right?
Speaker 3: This year we got the Bahama the Bahamas games right
Speaker 3: around Thanksgiving, so that'll be you know, good exposure if
Speaker 3: they do.
Speaker 4: Well and well.
Speaker 2: The reason for watching that or going to that, I
Speaker 2: wish I could. I wanted to, but there's so much
Speaker 2: going in on in my life is that the Bahamas.
Speaker 2: They could very well play good Sega. Yeah, in the finals,
Speaker 2: and we haven't we been waiting for that for three
Speaker 2: four years.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Did you see the highlight of Mark Fu's son getting
Speaker 3: dunked on last night? He was in late late in
Speaker 3: the game, and they just look on Twitter or some
Speaker 3: place like that and there's he just got destroyed on
Speaker 3: a dunk, one of those you know, posterized kind of plays.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know he was on the team, but
Speaker 2: by Baylor. Yeah, yeah, I'm just trying to find a
Speaker 2: score here with that. I think in Kenzaga won pretty easily.
Speaker 2: But you know, welcome to the sports world of college basketball.
Speaker 2: In my mind, the best the best time of the year,
Speaker 2: well not so much, not till March. March. The best
Speaker 2: time one on one sixty three and it was not close. Really, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's Baylor, a big twelfty.
Speaker 4: They were up. I was nineteen at halftime.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw I saw a herd that and then
Speaker 2: because it was it was a later game than Arizona,
Speaker 2: Baylor's has not won, They've they've actually played a second game.
Speaker 3: They got really outscored, demolished by nineteen in the first
Speaker 3: half and by nineteen and the second half.
Speaker 2: Well, so they got wiped out. Maybe well the Big
Speaker 2: twelve may may not have that better team in Baylor.
Speaker 2: Then that's good for Arizona. No, I mean she they
Speaker 2: are the rank eighth Baylor. Oh yeah, there was a
Speaker 2: little go higher than that. Yeah, So we'll see. And
Speaker 2: the Zaga's pretty good. They always good and there they're
Speaker 2: another team that plays really well in November December, Yes,
Speaker 2: and then March comes and we'll see. Do you think
Speaker 2: Yukon is gonna win three in a row.
Speaker 3: It sounds like he had a lot of roster turnover finally,
Speaker 3: so maybe not. You know, yeah, but he's had a
Speaker 3: new coach. He's Actia coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I enjoy watching it.
Speaker 2: You talked about this with with I think with Michael
Speaker 2: h and maybe even with Saul that that it's a
Speaker 2: hell being a coach right now because you've got to
Speaker 2: recruit players and then you've got to recruit the ones
Speaker 2: you have, and and I know that Brendan did that,
Speaker 2: he did that very well. With these guys. Now they're
Speaker 2: just not playing for him. They're not playing hard for him.
Speaker 3: In my mind, I mean, he got here, he didn't
Speaker 3: he miss the first and transfer portal too. So January literary, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm just it's just amazing how
Speaker 3: when you really think about it and you look at
Speaker 3: it from way above, like wow, they do have you know,
Speaker 3: three players from last year and two players from international
Speaker 3: and a bunch of transfers and how these frosters are
Speaker 3: put together, especially basketball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Tommy's got a knack for this, right, he's
Speaker 2: got He's kept that European international connection, which helps. We
Speaker 2: don't know anything about the guys, and then they come
Speaker 2: in they play very well. Yeah. The guy that I
Speaker 2: thought would play better last night, del Orso, who didn't
Speaker 2: he He was one for nine, one for whatever it was.
Speaker 2: He didn't have a good shooting, and that's what he's
Speaker 2: kind of being paid for. Yeah, so I think he's
Speaker 2: gonna be okay down the road, but last night was
Speaker 2: not a great debut. Did you see his press conference? No,
Speaker 2: you should. You should watch it. He I didn't know
Speaker 2: who he was, didn't know much about him, but I
Speaker 2: listened to press concert. Very bright dude came in from
Speaker 2: Campbell I think it was, and he's from Australia. Very
Speaker 2: bright dude, like he's like one of my favorite players now,
Speaker 2: just in the things he said, very very insightful. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm here doing this. I dreamed about the NBA, but
Speaker 2: I had a process.
Speaker 4: You know, did he graduate at Campbell enough years?
Speaker 2: He may have, He may have. I'm not sure. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure about that, but the great press conference is
Speaker 2: very smart someone's I think he was talented who does
Speaker 2: a lot of different things, or Waka who's kind of
Speaker 2: there's more to them besides basketball, right, you know, and
Speaker 2: those are the stories that we love telling Townsend.
Speaker 3: You know, didn't have much last night, but that was
Speaker 3: you know again, a lot of these guys are chalking
Speaker 3: it up to kind of opening game jitters, right, but
Speaker 3: we saw him in the exhibition, so I'm sure that'll
Speaker 3: switch up and you know what, he's capable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they get I'm.
Speaker 3: Sure there's they're nervous and if they don't do well
Speaker 3: right off the bat, you know, they lose some confidence
Speaker 3: and next thing you know, they're off, they're on the
Speaker 3: bench because they've got twenty guys on the bench that
Speaker 3: can come in.
Speaker 2: The guy that you're kind of hoping for or pulling
Speaker 2: forward at least for me, and I'm not sure why,
Speaker 2: because it's going to be tough for him. Is Martinez
Speaker 2: is you know the guard who does get time? Because
Speaker 2: now Luke he has in front of him right the
Speaker 2: threesome and then he but I think you get some time?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Did he I know he came in later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had some points. He had some points. He
Speaker 2: had a couple of big threes I think it was,
Speaker 2: and he looked good, you know. For he probably end
Speaker 2: up playing five six minutes a game, right, you know,
Speaker 2: and being serviceable.
Speaker 3: Which is kind of with these teams like this need
Speaker 3: I mean most of them. How deep is are they
Speaker 3: going to go right eighty?
Speaker 2: Because Tommy did go ten deep and then he went
Speaker 2: to the bench, but ten deep with two different starting
Speaker 2: fives almost yeah, will he do that down the road?
Speaker 4: You know, coaches don't do that well when you're playing
Speaker 4: duke now, probably not right.
Speaker 2: Right, But the good thing is if they get enough
Speaker 2: feel for the game that they'll get him in it
Speaker 2: or two or whatever. Right, but especially for this because
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a big drop off. There's
Speaker 2: gotta be some drop off, but not a ton of it,
Speaker 2: just to give him a blow and kind of come
Speaker 2: in and get out and you know whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, it's like anything else.
Speaker 3: You want to get him some experience and hopefully it's
Speaker 3: some quality time and not just garbage time at the
Speaker 3: end of the game.
Speaker 4: So sure where you may need them.
Speaker 3: You never know, Guys get hurt or there's you know,
Speaker 3: there's foul situations, and that seems to be kind of
Speaker 3: what undos teams undo teams.
Speaker 2: You know, at the end, okay, I think we gotta go,
Speaker 2: we gotta go down.
Speaker 4: We're done. You see you next time.